1 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Hello. My name is Jason Concepcion and welcome back to 2 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: X ray Vision, the podcast where we dive deep into 3 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. Coming to 4 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: you from iHeart Podcast, where we're bringing you to two 5 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: action packed episodes every Tuesday and Thursday. On this very 6 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: special episode, I will be interviewing Rosie Knight ever heard 7 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: of her in comics illu shirtter Oliver Ono about their 8 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: latest project, Godzilla Monster Island Summer Camp, which is out 9 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: now wherever you get your comic books. We're delighted to 10 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: welcome to the program Rosie Knight, who co hosts the 11 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: program How is Me and her creative collaborate Ali Rono. 12 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: It is so great to have you here, Oliver, thank 13 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: you for joining us. 14 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: Always a pleasure. Thanks so much for having me back on. 15 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: It's been what two years since the last time. 16 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, unbelievable, But it's now and it feels really 17 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: wild because we would always be when the book hadn't 18 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: been announced. Me and Jason would always be like teasing 19 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: it on the Xtra Vision. We'd be like, Rosie has 20 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: something but we can't say what it is. But now 21 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: the book is coming out in like you know, six 22 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: days or something. So it's really fun to be able 23 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: to kind of celebrate it with you guys. 24 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: How did Godzilla Monster Island Summer Camp come to be? 25 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: Well, I so a while ago, like a couple of 26 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: years ago. Now, idw and Tohoe with trying to find 27 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: a way to do like kids Godzilla comics that they 28 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: really wanted to do like a middle grade book or 29 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: a kind of more youth focused graphic novel. So I 30 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: pitched this idea of Manila's Manila Godzilla's Sun going to 31 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: summer camp and kind of this adventure, and in my 32 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: head I visualized this like one panel of him wearing 33 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: like a little you know, like a little hat, like 34 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: he's like a camper and he's got a neckerchief on, 35 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: and that was really like and it's in the book 36 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: and it's my favorite page and it was the first 37 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: page that I visualized. So then like a year after 38 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: I pitched it, I heard back and they were like, 39 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: we're going to do it, and me and Oliver were like, oh, okay, cool, 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: that's sick, And then we started working on it and 41 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: it was but it was definitely an extension of what 42 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: we started with Rivals with Battra because we came to 43 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: find because we've still been doing signings for that book. 44 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: We've been still speaking to people about that book, and 45 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: we really found that the audience was a lot younger 46 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: than some of the other Rivals books, Like kids really 47 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: liked that book, and we were definitely channeling that kind 48 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: of slower studio ghibli vibe, but with cool monsters. So 49 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: I think this is just like an extension of that. 50 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: Oliver, what was when the story and the idea was 51 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: presented to you, did you have any ideas about like 52 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: the artistic palette, the things that you wanted to see immediately, 53 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: Like what what kind of ideas popped into your head? 54 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it definitely came when when Rosie brought it 55 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: to me. I brought up the idea. At first, it 56 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: was she just kind of feeleded it, like hey, like 57 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: just so you know, I I put in this story 58 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: for like Godzilla's Sun goes to like summer camp and 59 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: then he just has like a good time. And at 60 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: the time, you know, it was I think that was 61 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 3: like right after we finished up Batra, and I was like, 62 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: that is the weirdest story ever. I don't know how 63 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: it's gonna get made. But yeah, that sounds that sounds lovely. 64 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: That sounds like a nice mix up, and especially with 65 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: with Batcher, it was, uh that was it was such 66 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: a like a muted palette. It was kind of a 67 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: dark story. It was, you know, Bacher's like like one 68 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: of the more goth sides of of of the Kaiju. Definitely, 69 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: so it was definitely a challenge to to shift in. 70 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: But I after drawing like a like a gray English 71 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: seaside town, like, it was definitely a fun idea to 72 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: like jump into something that was gonna be very very poppy, 73 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: breezy sort of situation, you know. So yeah, I mean 74 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 3: that definitely just the idea of trying to make it 75 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: feel as warm and summery as possible like that. That 76 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 3: that affected the color palette, and that's I think one 77 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: of the one of the biggest things that we've gotten 78 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: feedback on from everyone is people people talk about how 79 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: the colors came together and and made the whole book 80 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: feel just that that that summer ReVibe, you know. 81 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's everyone who's We got a great quote from 82 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 2: the fantastic Stephanie Williams, who I love, who is behind 83 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: some comics like Nubia and Mungo Double Dinosaur, and that 84 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: was the first thing. She was like, it's like this 85 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: hazy summer vibe and I was like, yes, I want 86 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: people to read it and just feel like that breeze 87 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 2: in the air and wanting to be at Monstrawland summer Camp. 88 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: You know, that was the big thing, and all of 89 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: it just absolutely smashed it. Also, Oliver, why don't you 90 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: talk a little bit about, like, what was it like 91 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: redesigning Manila for the book? Because he has like a 92 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: very distinct and ugly look and I love him, but 93 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: he does so like, what was it like trying to 94 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 2: reimagine him for the for this audience and this book. 95 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. So I mean, of course, like I've come into 96 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: being a big general Toho Godzilla fan throughout working on 97 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: all these projects, but largely I was coming from outside 98 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: the fan base when I started, and so I think 99 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: I have this kind of like third party viewpoint, or 100 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: at least I did now Now the more that I 101 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 3: do it, the more I'm like, no, it should look 102 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 3: exactly how it looks in the movies. I'm kind of 103 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: in that, but but yeah, I mean coming into it 104 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: knowing that it's going to be four kids and a 105 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: lot of kids these days, unless unless they are you know, 106 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: the kids, the grandkids of the original fans that watched 107 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 3: you know, Manila as as a kid. You know, they 108 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 3: have that same sort of viewpoint. And Manila again is 109 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: lovably ugly, but definitely ugly, you know. So I knew 110 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: that I wanted to kind of soften them up a bit. 111 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 3: And it's always a weird thing trying to make you know, 112 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: even I think about what the original designers of the 113 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: suits were thinking, and it's not like they created the 114 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: exact thing that was in their heads either. They were 115 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: trying to come up with this feeling of like a 116 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: little Godzilla, And so I think pivoting and thinking about 117 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: it from that point and seeing how I can refine 118 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: still the same energy that was originally that in those 119 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 3: old suits, but also turn it into something that maybe 120 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 3: couldn't exist in real life and sheep wise simplify it 121 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: down and give him a little bit more like character. 122 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 3: So it was a balance of trying to keep it 123 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: even even with the original old design, but also trying 124 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: to kind of revamp it so that it would be 125 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: accessible to like a broader audience. So they wouldn't be like, Ooh, 126 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: what's this weird guy? They there's at least like oh 127 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: because he's a weird guy, but he's also like a 128 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: cute weird guy, you know what I mean. 129 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: You mentioned kind of the the cute factor, the warmth 130 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: of the book, in the color palette, and the design. 131 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: How do you make I mean, there's monsters in this book, 132 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: and some scary ones, but how do you how do 133 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: you make cute scary monsters? 134 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 3: Like? 135 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: What is your strategy for doing that? Because I think 136 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: it's one of the things you've really accomplished, is creating 137 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: this like warm, inviting story that also contains scary monsters, 138 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: but that appear they fit within the overall design world. 139 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it. It's one of those things I 140 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: didn't wanna. I didn't wanna. Certainly, the monsters are still 141 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: very much like the monsters from the movies, like and 142 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: I wanted overall the world to still be like just 143 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: that full Toho kaiju world with big implications, big big consequences. 144 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: It's just that our story takes place in kind of 145 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: a happy corner of that world, you know what I mean? So, yeah, 146 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 3: I I didn't Other than other than again, I kept 147 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: the I kept the colors very fun and honestly, like, 148 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: at least with like uh eby Rah, he was still 149 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 3: very much I mean, I'm almost I almost made him 150 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: even a little more chunky and gnarly looking, you know. 151 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: But I don't know. I I think I I think 152 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: I did lean on the colors a lot. I think 153 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: I think that maybe all of the all the all 154 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,119 Speaker 3: the monsters look a little bit more like the animals 155 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 3: that inspired them in the first place as well. I 156 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 3: did push them more in that like, oh, this is 157 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: like the real like the real counterpart of that of 158 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: that Kaiju, the real animal counterpart, and it's just a 159 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: big version. But yeah, I don't know. I think I 160 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: think the colors do a lot to do that. Well. 161 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: Were it back after a short break to talk more 162 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: Godzilla Monster on the summer Camp and ros you know, 163 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: and we're back, tell us a little bit more about 164 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: the story set it up. We understand that it's a 165 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: summer camp story, but how did the story take shape? 166 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: So I was like, where what would be cute? That 167 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 2: was definitely my first thought, like what do I want 168 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: to read and what would be cute and what would 169 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: be good for all of his art. So I thought 170 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: of this kind of classical idea of the American summer camp, 171 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: of the kind of you know one that you see 172 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: movies where it could In the daytime, it looks so 173 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: beautiful and it looks like it could be from you know, 174 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 2: a cool movie that you would want to go there, 175 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: but at nighttime you're like, oh it could. This is 176 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: also where Friday the thirteenth could be set. You know, 177 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: those are my real touchstones. Is kind of more of 178 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 2: a movie experience. I never went to an American summer 179 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: camp because I didn't grow up in America, but those 180 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: were my touch points, and I really wanted to tell 181 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: a story that was basically just about kids having a 182 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: good time. I wanted to have disabled leads. I wanted 183 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: to have them in this unexpected space. Because the general 184 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: setup of the book is Zelda, who's our main character, 185 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: goes to this camp, thinks it's going to be an 186 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 2: art camp where she can make comics all summer, and 187 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 2: then she gets there and it's been taken over by 188 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: like a nefarious corporation. So instead of make it summer camp, 189 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 2: it's more ink summer camp. And those were two Those 190 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: were the kind of first things I set up was like, 191 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: how can I have this summer camp have the same 192 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: initials as Monster Island. I was like, it has to 193 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: have that, and I was thinking a lot about There's 194 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: this old Disney movie that I just really really loved 195 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: called Heavyweights with Ben Stiller, and he plays this kind 196 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: of evil He's like an evil fitness guy who goes 197 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 2: to a fat camp and tries to make all the 198 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 2: kids lose weight, and they kind of rebel against him. 199 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: So that was definitely in my mind, but I wanted 200 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: to take it more to that futuristic kind of sci 201 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: fi space where more Ink was. Their version of being 202 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: a corporation was very brutalist and very much like destroying nature. 203 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: And then I was thinking, you know, what's the biggest 204 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 2: ecological threat? 205 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: Now? 206 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: You know, when the original Godzilla was made, it was 207 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: a response to the nuclear bomb, so I was like, oh, well, 208 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 2: it has to be fracking, you know. So that was 209 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: kind of where I where it all started, and it 210 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: was just such a joy to write it and to 211 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,239 Speaker 2: get to know that Oliver was going to draw it 212 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: meant that I could really be specific in the things 213 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: that I wanted to bring to life that I knew 214 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: he would be great at like the monsters, and also 215 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 2: like he draws the coolest clothes, so all the kids 216 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: have these like super rad outfits. 217 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 3: You know. 218 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: This is the one where I feel like maybe in 219 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 2: like five years, we could be at a comic con 220 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: and we'd see someone in like a version, like a 221 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 2: chill version of one of the costumes, because they like 222 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: the way the kids are designed so well. And Oliver 223 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: really brought that energy of like when you watch a 224 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 2: cartoon and people either always dress in the same colors 225 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: or they have the same costume every time, like Bart Simpson. 226 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 2: So I think it still has that vibe where they 227 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: all have a very clear aesthetic and even at the 228 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 2: end of the book where we kind of see a 229 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 2: little bit of the future, they still have that. And 230 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 2: I just thought it was so cool and also just 231 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: to get to write a book that is so out 232 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 2: of any kind of continuity like we and know that 233 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: kids are going to get to find it and explore it. 234 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: And we've had like really lovely feedback. We did a 235 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: really cool event in Chicago that Music Box Theater. They 236 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 2: did a giant Godzilla filmfest there that was so fantastic, 237 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: and my friend Katie Riiche was a brilliant programmer and 238 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: film critic, invited us to go and be there, and 239 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: we tabled at the film festal like one in the 240 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: morning from eleven in the morning and gave out like 241 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 2: hundreds of little zines about this, and so many people 242 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: were just so excited to see Manila. I mean, we 243 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 2: are in a Godzilla renaissance for sure. And it was 244 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: so funny because when the book was announced, so many 245 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: people were just like, oh my god, I would wish 246 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: I could make this, Like I love Manila so much, 247 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: and they're doing like all these cool fan arts in Manila. 248 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: I found so many great different artists through the book 249 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: being announced, and some people were like, hey, let Minilla 250 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: be ugly, and I was like, I get it, man 251 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: I love that little ugly guy, like I've got him 252 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: tired on my body. But like, Oliver drew a cover 253 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: for this book that is so enticing. I feel like 254 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: it has such a pick up ability factor, and I 255 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: think that's because of how beautiful his Manilla is and 256 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: then how cool Ramiko, Wheezy and Zelda, who are our 257 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: main cast, look on that front cover, like you want 258 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: to be there, you want to be on this adventure 259 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: with them. So yeah, I'm really excited for people to 260 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: get to read the whole thing. 261 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about the outfits. Do we have 262 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: a favorite outfit from Oliver the book? 263 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: Okay, my favorite outfit of anyone in the book that 264 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: I wrote in the script. I wrote such a funny, 265 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: silly thing in the script. It's there is a moment. 266 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: There's two moments where Manila is in disguise, right, and 267 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: the first one is the first one is my favorite 268 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: outfit because I was like in the script, I was like, Oliver, 269 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 2: He's going to be in skis like that classic you know, 270 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: Raphael in Ninja ta Ors, the thing in Fantastic four, 271 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: like RoboCop, that classic thing where you put on a 272 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: trench coat and you put on a hat and nobody 273 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: can recognize you. So Oliver did that, and he did 274 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: a version where it's like a baseball cap with sunglasses. 275 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: So you also have that Avengers costume where whenever the 276 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: Avengers are in civilian attire, they just wear aviators in 277 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: a baseball cap. And then Manila has the the trench 278 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: coat and that that image is just makes me laugh 279 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: every single time. So like the humans have cool outfits. 280 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: But for me, it's definitely that like Manila in Disguise. 281 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: He looks so sassy like and obviously it's a dinosaur, 282 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: but that's the magic of storytelling. You know, nobody can 283 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: nobody can recognize him. 284 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 4: Oliver, you have a favorite, you know? 285 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 3: I yes, like definitely and and also just to add 286 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: with with the Manila in Disguise outfit, like I also 287 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: with those sunglasses. I always loved the squirrel squad from 288 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: like the first the Persons, and yeah, so I gave 289 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: I gave him the Squirrels squad sunglasses. Those are definitely 290 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: this yeah uh. But at the same time, I also personally, 291 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 3: I really like there's a midway through outfit that Roomy 292 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: co wears with like the cut off like jersey with 293 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: the three on it, And yeah, I really like that one. 294 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: Uh uh? Which is it? There's a few, a few 295 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: like small details. That was I think probably the most 296 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: detailed one, but it was the one that I wanted 297 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: to You know, anytime that you're adding all this stuff, 298 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: it ends up being you regret it by the end. 299 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 3: By the end, like yeah, because you have to keep drawing. 300 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: But like that one was like her little like hype 301 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: beast outfit like. 302 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: Cool. 303 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. I gave her like the three on the front 304 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 3: of the jersey because I always liked Hey Arnold growing 305 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 3: up and Gerald wears Gerald wears that like uh sweatshirt 306 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: with the three on it and Uh. I made like 307 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: a little a little her shorts have and I think 308 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: also the jersey has has it. I made like a 309 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: like a spoof Nike thing where it says Meeky that's 310 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 3: that's like the name of the boy from uh from uh? 311 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: Which one I always get the two the two Manila 312 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: movies mixed up. 313 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's in or monsters there it is, 314 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's your Yeah, So I love that. 315 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: I wanted to put a little lots of there's lots 316 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: of little Easter eggs if you, if you, if you 317 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 3: read into it. But but yeah, that was probably my 318 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: favorite one. 319 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: I definitely think your favorite hair was Wheezy's hair. You 320 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: love drawing that hair is like so outrageous. Yeah, you 321 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: love like a giant ball of hair. 322 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: Let's say, Uh, somebody picks this up and they love it, 323 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: but maybe they're not versed in Godzilla lore in the 324 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: way that y'all are. What's the next place they should turn. 325 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: If they're like I love this, What's the next Godzilla 326 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: project that I should check out? 327 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: I think definitely the Rivals series. There's so many different 328 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 2: types of storytelling, so I think that anyone who enjoys 329 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 2: Godzilla could find a story for them that. Obviously our 330 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: Batra issue is very similar in tone, but all of 331 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: the Godzilla Rivals books, which I believe there's now three 332 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: volumes of Round one, Round two, and Round three, they 333 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 2: all have really great cool in in roads to Godzilla. 334 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 2: I would also say, like, watch the old movies. Obviously 335 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 2: we are dreaming that we I already have like two 336 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: sequels planned out if they did, if it does well 337 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 2: enough that people want to read them. But I think Rivals. 338 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 2: There's also a Godzilla comic called Monsters and Protectors, which 339 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: is like kind of a more Ya vibe, and I 340 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: like a lot of the rules that we had to 341 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 2: follow for this, like the Monsters, how Zelda communicates with 342 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: the monsters and stuff. Monsters and Protectors was kind of 343 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 2: a framework because they of what they were allowed to do, 344 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 2: then we could probably do a similar thing. But honestly, 345 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 2: Toho was like super chill, like the funniest note that 346 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 2: I've ever gotten was from this project and it was 347 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: one of like three notes Toho gave and it was like, 348 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: Godzilla can't do a thumbs up. I was like, I've 349 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 2: seen him do it on the TV, but no, Godzilla's 350 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 2: like very uh, He's very serious in this book, I 351 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: will say, I mean the book is called Godzilla, so 352 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 2: as you could have met Godzilla, monster and someone, as 353 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: you can imagine, Zilla is in the book. And I 354 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: do want to say, if you're listening to this and 355 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: you have kids, or you're a teacher, or you're a librarian, 356 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: please read this book. I would love that that is 357 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: the aim of the book. But if you are an 358 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: adult who loves Godzilla and wants to see really cool, intricate, 359 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 2: fantastic Godzilla, are also read this book because when Godzilla 360 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 2: shows up, the way Oliver brings Godzilla to life is 361 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 2: just so fantastic. And some of those pages I still 362 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: just look at in total awe. And there is also 363 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: mechs because Oliver always has to draw a mix, so 364 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: we found we found a way to build those mechs 365 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: in So yeah, I do think really IDW has done 366 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: a great job. One of our favorite artists James Stoko. 367 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: He did a very iconic Godzilla story there, which, even 368 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: though it's very tonally different, I would say if you 369 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 2: like the idea of seeing different artists just getting to 370 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: go hamm and kind of have an auta vision his 371 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 2: Godzilla books, like he did the issue Godilla in Hell 372 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: and he did godzill one thousand Year War, and those 373 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: are just so fantastic. So there is a Smaugas board 374 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: of fantastic Godzilla storytelling, and we're hoping that this will become, 375 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 2: you know, a part of it. We've had a lot 376 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: of really cool feedback from people being like, hey, you 377 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 2: should turn this into an anime or something, and me 378 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: and Oliver are like, yes, please please do that. 379 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: Like we would see so many people when we when 380 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 3: they announced it, like because I think it they just 381 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 3: they initially and I think you had to read further context, 382 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 3: but initially they just dropped the cover and so so 383 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 3: many people thought it was straight up like just the 384 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 3: poster for like a new anime series, and I was like, okay, 385 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 3: job job, job, job done. Like we've putting our little 386 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: tendrils into the into the possibilities here, So yeah, it'd 387 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: be really cool though, Well, were it. 388 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: Back after a short break to talk more Godzilla Monster 389 00:20:49,600 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: Own Summer Camp with Rosy and yeah, and we're back. 390 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: The book is fantastic and it's been so wonderful to 391 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: have you both here. And we end every episode with 392 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: variety of fast moving segments. Today, Oliver, we're gonna do 393 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: Who's Who, and I'm gonna ask you for your favorite 394 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: Let's say, do you want to do three your power ranking? 395 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 4: Your favorite? 396 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: Your three favorite obscure kai Jews slash monsters of any type, okay, 397 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: of any kind, not even obscure, just like your top 398 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: three favorite Kaiju slash monsters. 399 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 3: And this is in general, this is this is this 400 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 3: in general. So outside of Toho as well, anywhere have one. 401 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 3: I have one very deep cut okay, funky Boy from 402 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 3: the Redline movie. 403 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 4: Not aware a funky boy, but his name. 404 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: Come on and and oh yeah, funky Boy from the 405 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 3: Red Line movie. That that that hits for me. 406 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: Oh funky Boy is quite quite weird looking. 407 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 3: And I love funky Boy number two very well. 408 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's like a like a golden brain. 409 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a big golden brains. He's trapped into like 410 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: a gelatinous cube. Uh and then and then they drop 411 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: like I think, like an orbital cannon on him. He 412 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: uh oh he's great. Oh number two. Honestly, I love 413 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: Space Godzilla. I really love the design of Space Godzilla. 414 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: I like I like a crystal. 415 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like ultimately cool. 416 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 3: That That is my That is my thirteen year old boy. 417 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 3: Pick right there. It's just it's just Godzilla, but with 418 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 3: like extra stuff all over him. 419 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, more buff Yeah. 420 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's more ribbed. He's been at the gym, 421 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: he's been grinding. Number three number three. Oh, I can't 422 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 3: remember his name. There's one episode of Space Standy where 423 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: the robot in Sandy like grows massive and becomes like 424 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: a Kaiju when they have a Kaiju fight. That's also 425 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: a weird. 426 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: Also, everyone should go and watch Space Standy like wash, 427 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: I love. 428 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: Space Dandy, but the robot which I cannot remember his name, 429 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 3: but he becomes a Kaiju for an episode, essentially like 430 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 3: a robot Kaiju. Oh qt t there he is. He 431 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 3: is a cutie. That's true. 432 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: Love that guy, Rosie. 433 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 4: What about you? 434 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 2: I'm gonna actually, because I mentioned Godzilla and Hell, I 435 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 2: always remember the first time I read that book, and 436 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: there's a nuclear reactor demon that's like a demon from 437 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: a nuclear plant that turns into a giant kaiju and 438 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 2: it is like so creepy and fantastic, and it literally 439 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: like bursts. I remember watching reading the page and it 440 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: like bursts out of the nuclear reactor. It's just so cool. 441 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 2: So definitely that one that's a comic book hit weird 442 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: I love obviously, Manila is my number one weird kaiju, 443 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: though I feel like now he is like quite far 444 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: from deep cut, so I'm gonna do like you know, 445 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: people love him now like they love that guy. Ibierra 446 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 2: used to be another one, because like, who doesn't love 447 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 2: that weird guy? But another, probably my second good weird 448 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: one is in the old Godzilla comics from Marvel, which 449 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: I've been kind of They're rereleasing a lot of where 450 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: Jewels from see Greg Quarters saved me, like the sick 451 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: poster of the first first issue, which they're going to 452 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 2: be reprinting I think for the first time in a 453 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: long time. In the like issue three, he fights this 454 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: thing that looks like a It kind of looks like 455 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 2: a mixture between a snake and a venus fly trap, 456 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: kind of like a feed me Seymour Vibe, and his 457 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 2: name's just like Rheannon. It's like it's like it's like 458 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 2: our our h I a r h i a h n. 459 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: And I'm like, how do you even pronounce that? But 460 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: it's like his head ends up getting chopped off. But 461 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: I always think he's got like a flying saucer head, 462 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: so I'm always kind of thinking of him. I'll join 463 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: you by doing one like one that I just think 464 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: is really cool. I love like ky Ruver of Meca 465 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: Gozilla where he's got like the guns on his shoulders 466 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: and he's just like, that's my thirteen year old boy. 467 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 2: Like definitely, Jason, do you have a favorite weird kaiju? 468 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: Oh, gosh, mine are gonna be much less deep cut 469 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: than you. I'm gonna say, Manila, who I originally as Baby. 470 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: Godzilla, Baby Godzilla, Yeah, that. 471 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 4: Was I think. 472 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: I I think I had. I had a bunch of 473 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: the like sixties and seventies tojo stuff like on vhs 474 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: my dad actually, and that one was just labeled baby Godzilla. Next, 475 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna uh and again apologies if these are not 476 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: the correct name, but the smog Monster from uh oh yeah, Hedora, 477 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: I called him the smog Monster. And what I really 478 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: remember that about that movie was like this Austin powers 479 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: et segments where hetero would like smog g It's like 480 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: oohs over people, and then there'd be like this people, yeah, 481 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: go go dancing and stuff. And then finally Jet Jaguar, 482 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: who is was just like a super cool robot that 483 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: like fought with and against Godzilla. 484 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 4: In a variety of. 485 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: Funny little end He's a very very cool legend, awesome 486 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: little suit. This was like pre Voltron and in like 487 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: my eyes, like when I later saw Vultron, I was like, oh, 488 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: Jet Jaguar. And again these aren't like super deep cuts, 489 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: but they are representative of my history with Kaiju's and Godzilla. 490 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love those picks. 491 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: Rosy and Oliver, thanks so much for talking to me 492 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: today about Godzilla, Monster Island summer Camp. A reminder comics 493 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: out now wherever you get your comics. On next week's 494 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: episode of X ray Vision, We're headed to Middle Earth 495 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: remember for season two of Amazon's Rings of Power. That's 496 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: it today's episode. 497 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. 498 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Kenseepsion and Rosie 499 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: Knight and is a production of iHeart podcasts. Our executive 500 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer 501 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: is a Boo Zafar. Our producers are Carmen Laurent and 502 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: Mia Taylor. Our theme song is by Brian Basquez. 503 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Laude, Kenny Goodman 504 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: and Heidi Our discoll moderata