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Speaker 1: Thank you for what you're coming back. Part two is underway.

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Speaker 2: I'm in camp with these fighters, training myself, you know,

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Speaker 2: knowing what I'm gonna win, what I'm gonna make, knowing

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Speaker 2: I know all this. I don't know why I know this,

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Speaker 2: but I from an early age, I just it was

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Speaker 2: screw you over anyways, so make sure he trusts you

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Speaker 2: trust him. The few years you're making all your money, right,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna try to screw you. So that's when you

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Speaker 2: have to be smart and cut the tie.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: But it's up to the individual. I emphasize that because

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Speaker 2: because whether you have an elementary education, a high school education,

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Speaker 2: with all the money you're making, all the hard work

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Speaker 2: you're putting into it, Don't tell me you're not just

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Speaker 2: gonna let everybody take advantage of you. No, you have

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Speaker 2: You have to fight for it, you know, and ask

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Speaker 3: Fifty he tried to get into the promotion business. He

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 2: No, we did business together. Actually, Canelo fought Kirkland. Fifty

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Speaker 2: cent had just signed Kirkland to promotional contract. We had

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Speaker 3: What's the biggest mistake be it in the boxing ring

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Speaker 3: or in business that Oscar de la Hoyas made.

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Speaker 2: Um Probably inside the ring, I stood in there too long, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And this that Mexican macheese more. Yeah, it's gotta be.

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Speaker 1: You gotta go toe to toe, that's got to be.

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Speaker 2: But also also not going then prepared fully one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent in some of my fights. Really yeah, yeah, why

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Speaker 2: would you do that? Over confidence? Too much too fast? See,

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Speaker 2: I was this kid growing up with nothing East La

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Speaker 2: Da Da Da. I didn't really have anybody. Nobody gave

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Speaker 2: me advice. I learned everything the hard way. I learned

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Speaker 2: everything on my own. And there was a certain point

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Speaker 2: of my career, probably in my prime or a little

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Speaker 2: I just felt that I was invincible, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I had some losses. I had some close fights that

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Speaker 2: I should have want easy was starting to kind of,

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Speaker 2: this sport does that to you. Man, Any athlete will

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Speaker 2: tell you that if you don't, if you don't stay focused,

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Speaker 3: Do you believe now, singing back because you have the

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Speaker 3: magnificent science of hindsight that had you trained harder, some

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Speaker 3: of those ales that you took, they would have been ws.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm convinced one thousand percent. I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: I had I had a life outside the ring that

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Speaker 2: was fast, crazy fast. I sometimes asked myself, how in

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Speaker 2: the hell did I do it? How was I fighting

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Speaker 2: winning world titles and then going off and drinking and

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Speaker 2: this and that, And I would show up in camp

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Speaker 2: literally boozed up. I would start camp six weeks and

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Speaker 2: win a world title, Like, how in the hell did

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Speaker 2: I do that?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it was an angel that was

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Speaker 2: looking out for me, or it was just pure skill

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Speaker 2: or just being young and dumb.

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Speaker 3: Do you ever when you're alone, you're in your bedroom,

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Speaker 3: you're sitting down and you're walking. Do you ever think

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Speaker 3: what if had I just worked out hard, had I

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Speaker 3: instead of a sixth division, I could have been a

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Speaker 3: And when they talk about the two or three greatest

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Speaker 3: fighters ever Oscar Dala Hooya's name, although you're an all

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Speaker 3: time great fighter, do you ever think about, had I

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Speaker 3: just given it a little more, what could have been?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? But I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't dwell on it. I don't really focus on it.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I'm I'm satisfied with my accomplishments, but I'm

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Speaker 2: more so satisfied with what I'm building outside outside the ring,

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Speaker 2: life after boxing. I'm just satisfied. I'm I'm I'm at

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Speaker 2: ease with myself. I'm happy, I'm.

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Speaker 1: I'm just blessed.

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Speaker 2: You know. I try to live my life with the

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Speaker 2: mentality of a boot, you know, just treat everybody right,

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Speaker 2: brush everything off, everything will be okay. You know, my

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Speaker 2: partner gets annoyed with it, but but it's it's just

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Speaker 2: the way I've lived life. I've been through the chaos,

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Speaker 2: I've been through hell and back seven times.

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Speaker 1: So I'm good. Let's talk about a fighter.

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Speaker 3: I think you still promote him, Ryan Garcia, Yes, what's

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Speaker 3: going on?

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Speaker 2: Look? First of all, every time every time I've spoken

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Speaker 2: to Ryan, every time that I talk to him on

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Speaker 2: the phone in person, he's always nice. He's always like

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Speaker 2: talking to me. Yeah, let's we have big plans. I'm motivated.

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Speaker 2: I want to make a lot of money. And Ryan's Ryan, right.

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Speaker 2: But every time we talk, everything's great, and then I

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Speaker 2: pick up the phone, I see Twitter, I see Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, my gosh, what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing.

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Speaker 2: A lot of money? Good looking kid, just like me.

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Speaker 2: And I've given them advice. I've told him a look

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Speaker 2: out for this, lookout for that. But Ryan's Ryan. I

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Speaker 2: have no idea what he's thinking or what he's doing.

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Speaker 3: A wise man will learn from others mistakes. A fool

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Speaker 3: will learn from his own. Now, considering your heritage, you fault.

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Speaker 3: You're a promoter.

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Speaker 1: If I'm gonna take advice from anybody, I'm gonna take

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Speaker 1: it from you.

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Speaker 3: You can tell me the pitfalls, you can tell me

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Speaker 3: the blind spot that I have no idea e this,

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Speaker 3: because you've been there, you walked this path before.

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Speaker 2: Ye your absolutely correctly.

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Speaker 3: It seemed like you guys have a very contentious relationship,

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Speaker 3: especially like like you said privately, when you pick up

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Speaker 3: the phone and called it. But then when I see

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Speaker 3: you guys at press Carverge, I'm like, bro, I yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's your aout y'all with all the same team. You know,

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Speaker 3: boxing is like the wild wild West.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's people that want to steal your fighters,

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Speaker 2: the people, advisors, other managers, promoters, everybody's always talking to

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Speaker 2: the fighters. Everybody always oh, Oscar's the bad guy. Oh

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Speaker 2: Oscar's going to steal from you. Oh Oscar's not going

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Speaker 2: to promote you. Right, Well, I have I have the experience.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at Canelo's career, look at Floyd's sixteen

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Speaker 2: fights that I promoted, Look at all the big events

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Speaker 2: I've put together. Of course I've had the experience. But

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Speaker 2: when these whispers are in their ears every single day,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're literally swimming up the current. It's

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Speaker 2: impossible to to convince these young kids and their kids, right.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't blame them, I blame whoever is

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Speaker 2: around them, the advisors, the lawyers who are money hungry,

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Speaker 2: These guys who U. They know it all well, the

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Speaker 2: fighter is going to listen to them because they're with

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Speaker 2: them every single day. So they when they confront me,

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Speaker 2: it's like, wait, wait a second, I'm the good guy here.

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Speaker 2: What are you talking about. I just want to make

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Speaker 2: you a lot of money and make you a legend.

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Speaker 2: I'm a legend builder. I want to build legends because

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Speaker 2: if you build legends, then the money will come. It's

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Speaker 2: not the other way around. Oh I want the money

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Speaker 2: and then I'll be a legend. No no, no, no, that

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Speaker 2: work hard to be a legend and the money will come.

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Speaker 3: His mental state, uh, you know, he's been on i G.

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Speaker 3: And he's used the N word, he's used anti you know,

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Speaker 3: anti Muslim rhetoric. I think he was stripped the w

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Speaker 3: one of the sanctioning bodies, one of the TEA. So basically,

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Speaker 3: so basically we should look at the WBC, the w

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Speaker 1: What's the other way the ring?

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Speaker 2: The most important is the ring.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that's for So we should I only have

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Speaker 1: four belts.

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Speaker 2: We should have one. We should have one the one

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Speaker 2: that has no politics involved, the one that the one

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Speaker 2: that fighters don't have to pay their hardened money.

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Speaker 1: To to be a part of Like you.

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Speaker 2: Literally have to pay a percentage or a big chunk

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Speaker 2: of your purse to the sanction Because for a belt,

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Speaker 2: I would rather just buy the belt at the flea

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Speaker 2: market and you know for a couple hundred bucks, right,

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Speaker 2: but the ring belt is free. The ring belt. You

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Speaker 2: have to be a legend. You have to be number

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Speaker 2: one fighting against number two. That's the only way you

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Speaker 2: fight for it. Wow, that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I'm looking at when he fought Tank and there

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Speaker 3: was the rehydration clause. Do you feel that had he

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Speaker 3: fought Tank? I think they weighed one forty and he

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Speaker 3: couldn't rehydrate above a certain level had he fought it.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say they fight at one for seven. Do

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Speaker 1: you believe Ryan beats Tank?

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Speaker 2: If he fought was it one thirty five? One thirty five?

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Speaker 2: So let me tell you all the Yeah, give us

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Speaker 2: all the roadblocks and stipulations on the contracts and this

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Speaker 2: Well, Ryan's a big kid now and they wouldn't make it.

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Speaker 3: Would Ryan get his situation worked out? Who would you

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind watching him against Teo Fimo Lopez. I

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Speaker 2: Why not let's make the great fights, Virgil or Tis. Wow,

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Speaker 3: It seems to me Crawford has hell been on fighting

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Speaker 2: He's not. That's that's that's a far fetched type of fight,

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Speaker 3: But it seemed to me that Crawford doesn't seem that

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Speaker 3: It seems to me that he's like, well, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I just got another belt.

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Speaker 3: Seems to me he's thinking the only fight that makes

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Speaker 2: I think he's wrong. I really do think he's wrong.

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Speaker 2: I Crawford is in a unique position situation. He needs

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Speaker 1: I guess the good number of a million pay per

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Speaker 2: With Terrence, I think I think the only fight maybe

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Speaker 1: It's there's a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's a lot going on. People have U yeah,

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Speaker 2: the best fight, the best. I think the only fights

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Speaker 2: but yeah, you just need that perfect that's brighter.

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Speaker 3: Would you like to see a rematch with Tank and

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Speaker 2: that's it's too much for Yeah, that's a lot of

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Speaker 1: There's one thing about Tank. He will go down easy.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, it's beautiful. He relentless. He's relentless. What's Floyd?

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Speaker 3: I guess Ryan Garcia and Floyd has been they've been talking, communicating.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean now now that Floyd, see Floyd

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Speaker 2: Ryan's a loyal guy who can in boxing. Who who

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Speaker 1: So do you think Laud will make a great trainer.

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Speaker 2: I think so. I think he will make a great trainer.

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Speaker 2: Like his father. His father had something very unique. He

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Speaker 3: On, right because you look at some of the trainers,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but not like Floyd.

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Speaker 3: Historically great because a lot of times when you look

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Speaker 1: It like, bro, why can't you do that? I could

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Speaker 3: So the thing that I have with Floyd, there's no

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Speaker 2: One thing about Floyd is that he's a hard worker.

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Speaker 2: So he'll he'll he'll implement that to his to his arsenal, right,

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Speaker 2: like his father. Yes, in boxing, we've only had we

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Speaker 1: You have to take a look. So many one of

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Speaker 2: You keep learning, you keep growing you out, you out

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Speaker 2: Hey from here, look at me. No, it's it's it's

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Speaker 3: of that? What transprited? Because he's been suspended s a

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Speaker 3: What can you tell us about that situation?

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Speaker 2: When we landed fight week in New York, Okay, Monday,

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Speaker 2: What I have to deal with the whole week? Imagine

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Speaker 2: I think Ryan just he swept, He just mopped. I

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Speaker 2: what what Ryan Garcia? He just made him look like

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Speaker 1: Will he ever take it serious enough to be that

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Speaker 2: I believe he will, I really really do. I think.

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Speaker 1: What's going on with you in Canelo?

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Speaker 3: You promoted Canelo even when a lot of fighters lift

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Speaker 3: you Canelo stay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the beef? What's the head butting with you

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Speaker 2: I literally feel, you know, Canelo changed over time, you know,

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Speaker 2: I you know, he's saying all this nonsense about oh

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Speaker 2: come bring in your auditors. And he's done that over

435
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 2: the years. I just feel that. I just feel that

436
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: a lot of times fighters, fighters get jealous, you know.

437
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying this to stroke my ego or anything,

438
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: but you know, I would walk into a room and

439
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: Canelo's giving interviews. I would walk in and then everybody

440
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 2: would put all their attention to me. Oh, Oscar the promoter,

441
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 2: Oh this and that. You know, I just feel that

442
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 2: it maybe got to him a bit, you know. Then

443
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: he started saying that I was ripping him off and

444
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 2: this and that. And it's pretty sad because I I

445
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 2: have no nothing against him. I really don't personally. I

446
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 2: just I just feel that, Yeah, that's and and the

447
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: whispers in the ears.

448
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: Right another situation.

449
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: You always start off with good friends, I mean, you

450
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 3: and Canelo with good friends. You now you got button

451
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 3: head Dana White the UFC. What what what's going on

452
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 3: with you and Dana? You guys were cool.

453
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were, and we were actually cool when I

454
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: when I first thought about getting into the MMA. Yeah,

455
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: I strongly feel that he just wanted to bury me,

456
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 2: you know, not have competition. You know, he started talking

457
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 2: about me, you know, yeah, the he what does he

458
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: talk about me? The coke and the pantyhose? So what

459
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: fifteen years ago? Like so what and what that I

460
00:24:54,840 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: don't have friends and like it's it's it's absurd because

461
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: literally I don't even think about it. We're in different sports.

462
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: He does his thing. I do my thing. Just because

463
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 2: I wanted to start a little competition. He gets all

464
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 2: over you know, let me, let me, let me scream louder.

465
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: I mean, when a guy slaps his wife in public,

466
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 2: you know, when his mom writes a book about him,

467
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: saying that he's a douche his own mom. That's all

468
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: I have to say. I don't have to say anything more.

469
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know why it started. I mean,

470
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,719
Speaker 2: the promotional thing. But we were actually pretty cool. But anyway,

471
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: it's all good.

472
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: You brought it up, Oscar. You had to build Oscar.

473
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: Why you why you let him snap that picture which

474
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: the fifties, fifteen years ago, the picture he was talking about.

475
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: Oh I was drugged up. Yeah, I was drugged up.

476
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 2: I didn't even know it.

477
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: You didn't know you had put in the painting home.

478
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 2: Have you Have you ever tried it?

479
00:25:58,720 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: No?

480
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 5: Hell now, okay, okay, think about it to get those

481
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 5: pantyholes on.

482
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, God damn it.

483
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: But it'll take like two hours.

484
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: But that was over oscar. You had I mean you

485
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: had to go by the size when you have.

486
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: Not No, no, no, what happened. What happened was And

487
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: I've talked about this a lot in my documentary too,

488
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: because I'm open about it.

489
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: Don't Yeah, fuck.

490
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: I was. I was getting with bad people. This and that.

491
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 2: Two women come in my room with a suitcase. That's

492
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 2: all I remember. And after that I wake up the

493
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: next the suitcase, women's close. Oh yeah, women's close. Drugs

494
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: this that. Yeah, they they set me up. But it's okay.

495
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 2: It happened.

496
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: So what.

497
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 3: You mentioned that doing your career, did you partake in

498
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 3: drugs doing your career?

499
00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 1: No?

500
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: No, no, I couldn't be as tested. Yeah he tested right.

501
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: I didn't drink smoke drugs. I was a professional.

502
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: I was women were your vice.

503
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: I mean, were you in right? But but I started

504
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: drinking in the pack fight. Okay, I was drinking in

505
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: the pack fight the last two weeks. My training was

506
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 2: going bad. I was getting beat up and sparring, and

507
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, let me just booze it up.

508
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: And that's what happened.

509
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 3: Do you did you know, did you try to like

510
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 3: suppress that from coming out because you knew that was good?

511
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 3: Oscar You know who you are, you Oscar day La Hayder.

512
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: You're the Golden Boy, your gold medalist, You're a six

513
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 3: division champ. Do you understand how that was going to

514
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 3: make you look if that those figures ever came forward?

515
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 2: No? No, I actually I actually another story that people

516
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 2: don't know when they when they came out, Yeah, fucking

517
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: worried as hell because I was at the peak of

518
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 2: my career, yes, and I was having issues with you know,

519
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 2: domestically at home, you know, yeah, with all that stuff,

520
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: and so they made me. First of all, we hired

521
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 2: a a this forensic like expert and photos and photoshop.

522
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: We actually convinced the people that they were fake fake, yeah,

523
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: and I was home free, right, And then they and

524
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: then the person at the time that I was with,

525
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: convinced me to do an interview and tell the world

526
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: you know what they're They're real?

527
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: Would you do that?

528
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: Because I was because I was just I was a

529
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: shall of my own self at the time. I didn't

530
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: know what I was thinking. But I'm glad I did

531
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: it because I'm glad. I I'm glad I said they

532
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: were real because it set me free.

533
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: Really.

534
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, they're out there fifteen years ago. So

535
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: what I mean, what I bit. If I asked thirty

536
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: people here, twenty of them say I've worn something from

537
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: a woman in closed doors. That's what happens. Mine just

538
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: came out publicly.

539
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know a boy that Oscar.

540
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: Come on, hey, come on, lit'sten.

541
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: He got them songs, so I know. Let me ask

542
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: you give me.

543
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 3: Your top three Mexican fighters of all time, of all time? Oh,

544
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: they got some good one. Julio s.

545
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: Salva Sanchez Salvadors was a good one. He he passed

546
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: at an early age, but he beat a Zuma Nelson

547
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: in his prime. He'd be I think he died at

548
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: twenty two twenty three. Could have been.

549
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: Mentioned him when I spoke to him.

550
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: There's uh, there's a fighter that people won't know of.

551
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: They call him and PUAs you know you have Julio

552
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: Caesar Chavez. Canelo's gonna be up their top ten. So yeah,

553
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: Cardiez oh Ricardo Opus who was undefeated as well. I

554
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: think he had one draw. It was fifty and oh

555
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: and one draw. But a lot of great Mexican fighters.

556
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: But I have to respect Canelo with what he's accomplished,

557
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: and I'll put him top ten.

558
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: Wow, top ten. I ain't askedble for three, so he ain't.

559
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 3: Guess, I guess, I guess if he topped ten, he

560
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: ain't making your top three. Do you remember the ninety

561
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: two Olympics, because that was the first year they bought

562
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: the NBA the Dream Teacher and they took all they

563
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,959
Speaker 3: were oooh everybody to Dream Team, Michael George, Charles Barkley,

564
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: Magic Johnson.

565
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: Oscar Dela Joya Barcelona.

566
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: This was a lifetime or culmination of a lifetime, because

567
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 3: you've dreamt of being an Olympic gold medal.

568
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: Sure, by far the best moment of my life, you know,

569
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: professionally inside the ring. At the same time the you know,

570
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: I was cursed, you know, at the same time, it

571
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: was like the best moment at the worst moment. Of

572
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: my life because my mother wasn't there. She had passed

573
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: away from cancer the year prior, so you can imagine

574
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: all the emotions. I was just a kid, so listening

575
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: to the national anthem right USA is plane and man,

576
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm just full of emotions. I couldn't cry, I couldn't laugh. Yeah,

577
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: the best moment of my life. I go down, get

578
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: out of the ring, and NBC is Fred Rogan is

579
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: gonna interview me, and he mentions my mom and I

580
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: just lost it, lost it. I couldn't do the end.

581
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: I just cried and cried and cried. So it was

582
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: a lot of pressure, but I was man. Was It

583
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: was a surreal moment. It was the best moment that

584
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: I've ever had.

585
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: Do you really did? And I say, and I tell

586
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: people this a lot of time.

587
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 3: The heavy weight, the heaviest weight you can carry is expectations.

588
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 3: And you know what the expectations were going into Barcelona,

589
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: not only because you're fighting for something more than a

590
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 3: gold medal. Your mom, you know she's watching, and the

591
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: expectation for the Americans back home that you're supposed Oscar

592
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 3: Dey gonna win the gold medal. I don't know how

593
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: many other are we gonna win? So we're gonna win

594
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: that way.

595
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: And it was all a lie.

596
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: It was all a lie.

597
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: Imagine that the media made up the whole story that

598
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: I was in my mom's deathbed and she whispered when

599
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 2: the gold medal for me.

600
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: She didn't do that. It didn't happen.

601
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: The media was just feeding it to me and I

602
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: was hearing it and I believed it. And they would

603
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: ask me, a, Oscar, so you're doing it for your mom. Yeah,

604
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: I'm doing it for my mom, for her cancer. I

605
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 2: hope she beats it this and she you know, And

606
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: and I ran with it, you know, and the whole

607
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: world ran with it.

608
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

609
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: The pressure was just too much. There were times I

610
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: thought I believe it was South Africa. I beat them easy,

611
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: but after that fight, I wanted to give up because

612
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 2: the pressure was too much. I was like the darling

613
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: in Barcelona. Oh, Oscar has the great story. You're the

614
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: golden boy then, right, No, actually they named me the

615
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: golden boy when I won the gold right. But the

616
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: pressure early on was justin. I would never wish any

617
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: type of pressure like that for an You could feel it,

618
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: you knew, oh it was I wanted to quit in

619
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: the Olympics. I wanted to quit in the Olympics. Yeah,

620
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: there was too much.

621
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: Can I ask you this, Oscar, how did your upbringing childhood?

622
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 3: There's some situations that happened. Yeah, you mentioned, I think

623
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: you put talked about in your documentary that you were

624
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 3: raped at the age of thirteen by thirty five year

625
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: old woman in Hawaii. How did your upbringing shape the

626
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 3: Oscar day of Hoya that's sitting in front of me today.

627
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I got taken advantage of you know, when

628
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 2: you're fifteen years old, and I mean at fifteen, hormones

629
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: are like, oh my god, they're like just jumping up

630
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: and down. And older woman, you know, takes advantage of me.

631
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: That's it.

632
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: That was it.

633
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: You know, did it scar me? Did it changed my

634
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: mentality towards women? This and that? Like it does something

635
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: to you, but again you're your own individual to figure

636
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: it out. I grew up in tough streets. I grew

637
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: up in a tough family. I grew up with a

638
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: mom who used to beat me every freaking day. Wow.

639
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: I had a father who just my connection with him

640
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: was boxing. You know, he was military. But it made

641
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: me tough. It made me who I am. It made me.

642
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 2: If it wasn't for my childhood, I would have quit

643
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: in the Olympics. Wow, that's the toughness I needed to

644
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: win the gold.

645
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 3: Did you realize not only did you have a country

646
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: that were counting on you to bring that gold medal home,

647
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 3: but your family, people that you grew up with. You've

648
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 3: talked about your father and the connection that you had

649
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 3: through boxing, and your mom who had passed away, because

650
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: clearly she wanted to see you become something.

651
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely, of course, people want people want free money, people

652
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: want people want to see the bank Grove. People want

653
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: to see you successful because the things you know you.

654
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: Thought your mom and dad thought that that you were

655
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: you were you were the meal ticket.

656
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: You were the.

657
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 3: Lottery ticket that was going to take them out of

658
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 3: East Dale life.

659
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 2: It was the lottery ticket for everybody, and still am.

660
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: I've been living this for forty years, Shannon. You have

661
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: no idea how many people I have around me that

662
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: love me. For me, I can count them and maybe

663
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: three fingers, and I'm okay with that because over the

664
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: years I had a million people around me that love

665
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: me that I felt love me. But why am I

666
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: going to my house, crying myself to sleep. If I

667
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: have a thousand people around me who love me, now,

668
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: guess what. I have three people who love me. Maybe

669
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: I know one for sure. But I have people here

670
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: that love me. And I'm going too bad smiling and laughing.

671
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: And why is that? With less people?

672
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: It's just life.

673
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 2: You will live and you will learn the hard way

674
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 2: or the easy way. I've learned. I've learned both.

675
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: Was it hard for you to say no? Yeah, it was.

676
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: It was impossible because I want you to like me.

677
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: I want you to accept me, to love me, to

678
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: hold me. If I say yes, everything will be okay. Now,

679
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: It's like because Oscar.

680
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 3: The thing is is that your mom, your dad, family members,

681
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 3: they are around you when you have nothing. So the

682
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 3: instinct is now that I have, well, I want to

683
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: make sure the people that were around me what I

684
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 3: didn't have, because I'm under the impression that they love

685
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 3: me for me. Sure, sure, but sometimes you have to

686
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 3: tell the people that you love know also.

687
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you have to remind them and they can

688
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: easily forget, you know, real fast. I have to say

689
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: my immediate family, like, I mean, my brother, My brother's awesome.

690
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 2: I love my brother my sister. You know, it's awesome.

691
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: You know my father, It's like we had this relationship where, oh,

692
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, did you do it for the money

693
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: or did I still pay him?

694
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 5: You know?

695
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: And it has to be for life, right, because that's

696
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: the promise I made, right, So you know, money does

697
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: a lot of things to people. Man, it's crazy, and

698
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: I learned it over the years, and I have this

699
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: experience and I see these young kids now, Man, it's

700
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: just just be careful, have your guard up, be smart.

701
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: Why are you on celebrity boxing? I don't know. This

702
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: wasn't celebrity.

703
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 3: But when Floyd fought Connor and we see some of these,

704
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: uh was it Jake? Yeah, Jake, he's fighting. And I

705
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: read what you said, Jake. If you really want to

706
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: be taken serious a box as a boxer, go fight

707
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: somebody that is a boxer.

708
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's fair. Look what I said to him

709
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: is fair. I'm not I'm not criticized actually commanding him

710
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: for for getting in the ring, Yes, for taking it serious,

711
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: for promoting and helping out Serrano, the woman fighter from

712
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 2: Puerto Rico. I believe it is. And you know he's

713
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: doing great things for fighters and for the sport. But

714
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: if he's gonna take it serious the way he says

715
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: he is, then take that route, the way, the way

716
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: we took it, the way the greats took it, the way.

717
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: Fighters who have to work their way up from the start.

718
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: Go fight guys who are gonna test you, Guys who

719
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: are not guys who are have don't don't have.

720
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: Exces, who are playing play basketball or what.

721
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like being a fighter a boxer. I

722
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: strongly feel that Jake Paul has the ability he really

723
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: does and the work ethic. Okay, but every fight that

724
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: he chooses, it's it's not balanced. Either he's an MMA fighter.

725
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: Either he's a basketball player. Either, either he's smaller, thirty

726
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: pounds lighter than him. Okay, take take the route professionally,

727
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: Take the professional route. Take the route that Mike Tyson took.

728
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: Take the right, the route that Floyd Mayweather took that

729
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 2: I took. You know, the route that's gonna test you

730
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 2: and it'll show you if you can become world champion.

731
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: You don't think Tyson is a is a serious opponent

732
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: for him?

733
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: Come on, sixty one year I loved I saw him

734
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: the other day, I love Tyson. I told him, of course,

735
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 2: he's got a puncher's chance the first three rounds. I'm

736
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 2: a little I'm a little scared of Tyson, of Tyson

737
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: getting hurt after the third round. Jake Paul's a big boy,

738
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 2: he's what twenty six years old, Tyson sixty one. I'm

739
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 2: happy for Tyson that he's making money and that Tyson

740
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: still loves it and he's getting in there. He's in shape.

741
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 3: But just be careful, Jake Paul, say he wants to

742
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 3: fight Canilo, you make that happen.

743
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: You make that fight happen.

744
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 2: I could make it happen, but Canelo hits the shit

745
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: out of me.

746
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: It'll be a lot of money.

747
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: There will be a lot of money. But still it's

748
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: not it's not legacy. It's not legacy.

749
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: It's not.

750
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: Canelo. I don't think has anything to prove. I think Canelo,

751
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: you know, he's he's obviously now fighting for for the money, right,

752
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: which I don't blame him for as long as he fights,

753
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: but for instance taking not taking Benavitez, which the world

754
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: wants is urging him to. You know, it's it's it's

755
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: bad for his reputation, it's bad for Connelo's legacy for

756
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 2: not taking that prime fighter in his in his career.

757
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know how closely you followed this, but

758
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: since we you know, you're a fighter. You know the

759
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 3: fight game Drake Kendrick Lamar who won that one?

760
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 2: Wow? Geez, I don't know if both guys have they trained,

761
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 2: have they fought? Have they Yeah? I don't I'm going

762
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: if I'm gonna go with I don't even know. I

763
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: don't know.

764
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: Well, they had a disc going on.

765
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's bigger?

766
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: I think Drake is bigger.

767
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give him the advantage.

768
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 3: You will give him advantage. You mentioned something that you

769
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 3: were training your AI abs. Were you serious? Are you bulling?

770
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: Because I can't through social media, I can't tell when

771
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 3: people are bull.

772
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 1: Driving or they being serious.

773
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: It is it is. It is just it's crazy how

774
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 2: every every little thing I do, people will just as so. Look,

775
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: this is this is what happened. Okay, this is what

776
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: people are going to understand. They're not fake abs, like

777
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 2: you cannot get fake abs. But it's called etching where

778
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 2: where the plastic surgeon goes in. It's kind of like

779
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: a light boat suction, but he etches your abs. My

780
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 2: abs already there, I have I have aps, right, they're

781
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 2: already there. They're just etching it in between so they

782
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: can just pop out. Yeah, stand out more. That's all

783
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: it is. Now it's up to me to keep these

784
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 2: apps because I gotta. I gotta work out.

785
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: I gotta.

786
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I mean it's yeah, that their mine. They're real.

787
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: That's a real thing.

788
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: That's a real thing.

789
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: I know you could do that.

790
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a real thing. It's like like LiPo section.

791
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: But they just etched the apps.

792
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: That's right, And so they will be. So as long

793
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 3: as you eat right and work out, you will have

794
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: like an eight pack to have a twelve pact. You

795
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 3: can be saying to five years old, I mean, thank you, Oscar.

796
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: Think about this. You've been training your whole life. You

797
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 3: know how to get in shape. Why you why you

798
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 3: take the rich man away? We do the poor man

799
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: go to the jail. That's the poor man. That's the

800
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: poor man of plastic surgery.

801
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: I know, I guess because I can. You know I've

802
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: done it all. Man.

803
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: I'm I'm someone to ask your question. I want to know,

804
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: So how did you come about this? You sitting in

805
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: your room one night like I'm worry by street bo

806
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 3: want a meal?

807
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: I ain't to do I'm gonna get it, man, I mean,

808
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: did you did you see a bro? Sure? How did

809
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: you even know about this? I heard this?

810
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 2: I I uh. I want to look good. I want

811
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: to feel good. Okay, I have I have my girl,

812
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: my partner, Holly.

813
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, we used to work together. We want to work together.

814
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: Probably the most beautiful, sexiest woman alive ever, and I

815
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: gotta keep up. I want to look good for her.

816
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: I want to stay active. I want to you know.

817
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: And I do have to admit. When I met her,

818
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: it was like, I'm not going to train anymore. I'm

819
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 2: not gonna do this. I'm gonna be lazy and just

820
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 2: kick back and enjoy all my money. But guess what, man,

821
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: she motivates me every single day ever since I got

822
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: it with her. Man, people are saying, Wow, Oscar, you're

823
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: a changed man. I'm not a change man. She just

824
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: he just took care of me and and and nurtured

825
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 2: me and gave me attention, you know, and loves me.

826
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: That's all I needed. I didn't need no rehab, I

827
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 2: didn't need know this and that, and because all these

828
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: people were coming after me trying to get what I

829
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: have and take me down. You know what I needed.

830
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: I needed somebody to just care for me.

831
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: And I'm good as the doctors.

832
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, she has other doctors.

833
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: So you eat in this.

834
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 3: Throughout this interview, you've mentioned your partner four or five times.

835
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: I know you had a previous marriage and it didn't

836
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 3: end well, but it's marriage something Oscar de la Hoy

837
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: would consider again.

838
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely. I mean when when you're in love and

839
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: you have a partner who I mean, my partner now

840
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 2: is changed my life. She makes me feel she makes

841
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: me feel like a man every single day, just by

842
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: something she tells me, something she does for me. I've

843
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: had breakfast on my table every single day for three years.

844
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: What Holly, what.

845
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: I've I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm a new I'm I'm

846
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: the man that I should should be. I mean, I'm

847
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 2: getting I'm getting emotional now because I'm happy. Kid, I'm good. Yeah,

848
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: I snipped it anyways, and.

849
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 3: You can ask you this obviously. You know your situation

850
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: with your your your ex and your kids. What's your

851
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: relationship with your kids?

852
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: Liked? You're good?

853
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: Great?

854
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? Good?

855
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: I mean not great, but good you know, it's like

856
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: I have older kids and they have their own life

857
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: and they do whatever they they're gonna do. I mean, look,

858
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 2: this is this is the way a kid's life is is.

859
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: You know, they they love you, they grow up, they

860
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: hate you. You know, they leave the house, then they

861
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 2: call you for money. It's just it's it's life.

862
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: You know.

863
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 2: I'm here for them every single second of the day.

864
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: I'm here for them. Call me.

865
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: I love you.

866
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: You know, we're family right till the end.

867
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 3: Oscar dala Hoya's legacy, what does oscardala Hoya, when it's

868
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 3: all said and done, Oscardala Hoya is no longer here.

869
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: What would Oscar like for people to say about.

870
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Speaker 2: You that he finally found true happiness, that he finally

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Speaker 2: found a partner. Okay, but you know what my legacy is.

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Speaker 2: My legacy is not my six world titles, gold medal,

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Speaker 2: this and that. No, my legacy is to say I

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Speaker 2: stood with my partner, with a woman till the day

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Speaker 2: he died, faithful, loving, understanding. Yeah, I went through stuff, whatever,

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Speaker 2: but you know what, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: they were best friends. That's my legacy right there. That's

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Speaker 2: what I haven't had a partner.

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Speaker 3: You believe you found the woman that that loved you

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Speaker 3: more than any other woman.

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Speaker 2: You know, I know, and I believe it, and I

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Speaker 2: know in my heart. Every single day, every single day

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Speaker 2: I wake up, I'm blessed.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Your ladies and gentlemen appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: My man, all my life, grunning all my life, sacrifice, hustle, ped.

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Speaker 4: Price, one slice, got the brother.

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Speaker 1: All my life, I'll be grounding all my life. All

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Speaker 1: my life, drowning all my.

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Speaker 5: Life, sacrifice, hustle, ped price, one slice, not the brother.

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Speaker 3: All my life, I'd be grounding all my life