1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Day four of our state of emergency. Do 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: you still feel on edge now? They were in day 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: four of the homeless state of Emergency, declared by our 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: new mayor Karen bats Um, counting on you to see 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: the effect of it off the streets so we're safe 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: to take away this along. I've seen no change after 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: four days, No nothing, nothing. That was a crazy guy 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the ramp on the one on one. 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: It was bothering people waiting on the light. That's what 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: I saw today. That was every day. Oh I do, 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: I do. It's it's uh because they're they're so mobile. 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: I mean, they don't just like get their brain fried 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: and you know, lay on the ground in the park, right, 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: they're going they go into stores and it's just it's 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: just because it's just relentless. It's like if you spend 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,319 Speaker 1: any time outside, it's like every few minutes, right, you're 17 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,639 Speaker 1: going to any parking lot, You're going to Annie's store, 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: Annie sidewalk, you're walking down there's always something. And I'm 19 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: a complete alert because I'm assuming they're all insane, they're 20 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: all on meth, they're all going to be aggressive, they've 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: all got a knife, I'm no longer one of these 22 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: naive people saying, oh, well, he looks harmless. Yeah, he 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: looks harmless until something fires off in his brain and 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: then you have a knife in your neck, so you 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: can't take that chance. I'm not taking any more chances. 26 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: And I don't care if it's stereotyping, discrimination and whatever 27 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: the hell you want to call demonizing, demonizing, and the 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: words of your old buddy Mike Bonden demonized. Yeah, well, 29 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let this demonize the homeless. I'm demonizing. 30 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,919 Speaker 1: You shall not judge all the homeless by one's violent action. 31 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: That's right. Well I'm not I'm not taking any risks. 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: This is survival instincts. They're kicking it now. Well, uh, surprise, surprise, 33 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: Although I think I know the angle. The El Segundo 34 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: Times writer Doug Smith, senior writer, it's been there a 35 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: long time. Did quite a front page story today on 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: a mother who's trying to find a way to get 37 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: conservatorship for her mentally ill, homeless son. Did you read 38 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: that story? Yes, Deborah Smith is her name, her son's 39 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: name is Nicholas, and it's a long read. It tells 40 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: you about her ordeal over the years and realizing that 41 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: this guy was really out there and we need something 42 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: more permanent. The basic we'll get through the details in 43 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: a moment. The basic thing is she cannot get him 44 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: committed for anything but a short period of time, and 45 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: they keep releasing him and saying basically that he's not 46 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: a harm to himself and others. Time to let him go. 47 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: She's concluded it's because the system is short of beds 48 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: and it's short of workers, the mental healthcare system in California, 49 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: So they have to have a revolving door because there's 50 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: always another guy lined up that's going to get involuntarily committed, 51 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: and they got to keep things moving along. That was 52 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: kind of her conclusion from this. But her quote is 53 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: she said, what they have yet to provide the only 54 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: option that she believes holds any hope for Nicholas. This 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: guy's like twenty nine now years old, is long term 56 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: involuntary commitment. As his episodes grew more frequent and severe, 57 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: she pleaded with one psychiatric hospital after another to petition 58 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: for a conservatorship, the civil process that empowers a public 59 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: guardian to order a person into Locke treatment. Quote. I 60 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: want to conserve he's not able to manage his own life. 61 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: He's a radic. We can't control him. He doesn't have 62 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: a place to stay, he doesn't eat well. The reply is, 63 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: he's not a danger to himself and others. The fundamental 64 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: definition of gravely disabled, which is the legal basis for 65 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: extending a temporary detention, it's the definition is whatever some 66 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: lobbyists wrote when they concede the bill many years ago. 67 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: It's got no relation to real life. It's just an 68 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: arbitrary definition. But the bureaucratic heads in all these agencies 69 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: and at these hospitals just look at, you know, the words, 70 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: and say, oh, he doesn't qualify. And I think it's 71 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: because budget terrorly, we don't want him here. We don't 72 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: have enough room to commit everybody that ought to be committed. 73 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: So we're just gonna have to make these decisions that 74 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: unless they're incredibly bad, we're not keeping them. You know. 75 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: I mean, look at this story. What happens is he 76 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: comes home, stays there for a while, then things get ugly, 77 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: he leaves, and she tries to find out where he is. 78 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: In October seventh, he was arrested in Santa Monica. He 79 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: was standing in traffic, waving a knife and wearing a 80 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: ghost fast ghost face mask from the movie Scream does 81 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: not not scream out. This is a person that is 82 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: gravely disabled waving a knife in traffic. There's if John 83 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: Copel has been driving by. There is nobody who cares. 84 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: We don't have a system to deal with the seriously 85 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: mentally ill. We just don't have it, and it doesn't 86 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: seem that anybody in power cares. I mean, there's there's 87 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands and thousands of guys like this, and 88 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: we see them on the streets. We all know what 89 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: they are, and so do the people at these healthcare 90 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: workers and these bureaucrats at the hospitals, and so do 91 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: the politicians. They all know what it is. They simply 92 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: won't do anything about it. It's a standoff this period 93 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 1: of not only do we not known people in jail 94 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: in prison, we don't even want people in mental health facilities. 95 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: That's the crowd that's running things now. Because he got 96 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: arrested in Santa Monica, she pleaded with the Santa Monica 97 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: Police department, just told them till his court appearance Monday, 98 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: he got release at night. Waving a knife in traffic. 99 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: And that's just one of the ten stories she told 100 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: him here of his crazy, near violent behavior. And you 101 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: could talk to the mother of every one of those 102 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: crazy people out on the streets with their drug addictions 103 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: and mental illness and their violence, you'll get a similar story. 104 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: There are thousands and thousands of people so crazy they 105 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 1: cannot be contained, and they're never going to get better. 106 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: There is no treatment it's going to fix them. This 107 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: is what she said. She believes the hospitals that discharged 108 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: Nicholas after a few days knew that he was gravely disabled. 109 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: The real reason they declined to seek a conservativeship was 110 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: their resistance to committing expensive acute care hospital beds for 111 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: months while the petition works its way through the court. 112 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: That's right, they'll lose money, that's right. Less costly long 113 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: term facilities are chronically backed up. See if this is 114 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: why he keeps getting spun out the door, and she 115 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: thinks eventually he's going to take some fetnyl and die. 116 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: That's actually what she's thinking is going to happen. And 117 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: that's what happens five times a day in the city 118 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, right, two thousand times a year. That's 119 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: exactly what happens. All those two thousand people should have 120 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: been locked up somewhere, and instead they're let to die. 121 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: And this is the official policy of the city and 122 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: the county in the state. This is the policy, and 123 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: they know this is the policy. We can yell at 124 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: them and state the obvious. We can read this story 125 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: forwards and backwards and in twelve different languages. There's nothing 126 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: they don't know. They just don't care. And now she's 127 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: got to wait till the fall of twenty twenty four 128 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: when Gavin Newsom's Care Court goes into effect. But she 129 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: even thinks they don't have enough resources and it probably 130 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: won't be a great idea. And yeah, and who knows 131 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: how that if that's actually going to work, right yeah, 132 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: because he's often all show, yeah and no substance. Right now, 133 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: it's a catchy name care Court. What are the details 134 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: if you if you really have a kid who's around 135 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: thirty years old and is completely out of his mind, 136 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: what are the details about getting him locked up and 137 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: having him stay there? There is no desire among people 138 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: in government or people in the healthcare system to do 139 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: anything for these people, because like with this guy, they 140 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: look at it's like, well, we're gonna take him in. 141 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: That's a money loser. It's all about making profits at 142 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: these places. It's all about making profits. And for the state, 143 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: it's all about tax money. It's not about care. They 144 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: don't want to send tax money on this. Seven psycholds 145 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: on him by the time he was twenty one years old. 146 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: He would just go from home to home, but often 147 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: he would leave a lot of involuntary holds at psych 148 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: hospitals twenty fifteen, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, twice last year 149 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: March of this year. They don't keep him for very long, 150 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: and there's a couple of times he's been arrested for 151 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: having a deadly weapon. He broke his father's cell phone 152 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: with a dumbbell bar where he stayed in prison for 153 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: a couple of months, but comes right back out again. 154 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: And then she says there are moments of lucidity. He'll 155 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: call me, it'll seem like things are fine. But one 156 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: time she called them and he said, oh, I'm playing 157 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: chess with Jesus. Yeah. Another time she found him walking 158 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: on the road with a plastic bag full of bibles 159 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: slung over his shoulder. He's emaciated. What is the definition 160 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: of greatly disabled. If not a person like this who 161 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: is furthering away because he's not eating and of course 162 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: is out of his mind and very potentially violent. I 163 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: think they if it's a physically disabled person, it's it's 164 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: easier for them to get into the system and have 165 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: a conservator. When you have somebody who can't walk, can't 166 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: walk and feed themselves. Yeah, that's what long term cares, 167 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: that you have to not be able to perform certain functions, 168 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: the mental illness stuff. Somebody I just read the quote today. 169 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: There aren't enough mental health workers in the nation by 170 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: far to deal with what's going on. There are no clinics, 171 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: there are no hospitals, there are no programs, there is 172 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: no tax money that the state wants to spend. It 173 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: is simply not an interesting topic for everybody in government, 174 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: and they don't have a response. It's pretty much it's 175 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: let him die because it looked it looked to them, 176 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: to the people in charge, it looks like a waste 177 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: of money. It's like, here, you have a crazy, violent, 178 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: compulsive person, whack job, drug addict, schizophrenic, whatever, Hey, we 179 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: can't fix them. Why are we gonna waste the money? 180 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: On it. They don't look up as human beings. This 181 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: to this mother, that's that's her son. That's a little 182 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: baby she gave birth to. She started recording him. She 183 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: started recording their conversations to try to gain evidence that 184 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: he needs conservatorship. And at one time he said to her, 185 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: are you going to your coffin tonight or the next 186 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: couple of days after the carna looks at your body 187 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: with two bullets in the head and the crack skull, 188 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna run in the bedroom and lock your door, 189 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: and they're gonna they're gonna go kick it in. And 190 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: she said, do you think someone's coming. I keep having 191 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: recurring dreams. Yeah, well those are the guys who all through. However, 192 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: she took this to a clinician who said, I think 193 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: you've got good evidence here not to judge declined them 194 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: to put him on a temporary conservative ship pending a hearing. 195 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: Say she doesn't know why, but she heard once again 196 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: he's not really a danger to himself or others. No, 197 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: he's just talking. He's just insane, and that's just an 198 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: insane person talking. And we are not going to spend 199 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: the money, and we are not going to take up 200 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: the space and there's we can't fix him. I think. 201 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: I think part of the futility that the workers and 202 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: the bureaucracy's feel is, what are we going to do 203 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: pay for him for the next sixty years and have 204 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: him screaming and ranting and raving and assaulting the mental 205 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: healthcare workers? Why do we want to take that out? 206 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: Do we really want to do? We want to have 207 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: a warehouse with one hundred or five hundred of these people? 208 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: What's not less what the complaint was back in the 209 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: day one flew over the cuckoo's nest. Well, it became 210 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: an ugly place because that's what they were doing, because 211 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: they just drugged everybody, because that was the way to 212 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: keep them calm. That that's the only thing you can do. 213 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: See what they did, minus the cruelty and abuse, is 214 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: the only thing you can do is you drug them up, 215 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: let them lay there like zombies, and strap them in 216 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: if they get out of control. I don't think there's 217 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: anything else you can do. That's why they used to 218 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: give crazy people a bottomies years ago. You know, they 219 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: used to put a nice pick just about it. We 220 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: shouldn't act all upset and sad when someone like this 221 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: who kept getting released kills somebody. Now, if they die, 222 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: it's a sad thing, but you had that coming because 223 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: you wouldn't put them into any kind of commitment. But 224 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: if they kill people, well, I mean you can't complain 225 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: about it if you have a system like this where 226 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: you're just letting him out the door every couple of days. 227 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: I feel for this woman. I mean, she just had 228 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: a bad draw with a child that is really far 229 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: out there. Sometimes they're just born that way. All right, 230 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: we got more coming up, like we always do. John 231 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: and Ken caf I Am six forty live everywhere. The 232 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. Tomorrow is the Moistline right Friday, five o'clock hour. Yes, 233 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: last one of the year. I gotta tell you that. 234 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: So you haven't made it onto the Moistline this year, 235 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: well you may have to wait till next year. If 236 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: you don't get your call in, you can use the 237 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, the microphone icon called the tell Free number 238 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: one eight seven seven Moist eighty six one eight seven 239 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: seven six six four seven eight eight six. After the 240 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: News at two thirty STANDBYB we got good stuff on 241 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom, the California governor, who made a boarder visit 242 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: this week in dramatic fashion. I don't think he had 243 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: a lot of media there. Of course the Elsa unto 244 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: Time sent somebody, but he got some national coverage. Well well, 245 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: the newsome always travels with a tongue from the La Times, 246 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: as in Bath. Yes, all right, so we'll we'll play 247 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: you some audio from this week versus just a couple 248 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: of months ago, and it seems to be he's saying 249 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: completely different things concerning the border and the flow of migrants. 250 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: We'll get to that coming up after the news at 251 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: two thirty. Making news right now, the Virginia Governor, Glenn 252 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: Junkin has asked the state's Inspector General to investigate the 253 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: Virginia State Police's hiring of Austin Lee Edwards, the cop 254 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: who died. Apparently he shot himself after he killed three 255 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: members of that fifteen year old Riverside girl's family. He 256 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: had catfished her online, then came out to California, waited 257 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: for them to come home, and there was some type 258 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: of confrontation. He killed her mother and her grandparents, then 259 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: took off with her and police caught up with them 260 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: later and he killed himself she is fine. But the 261 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: reason there needs to be an investigation is that he 262 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: apparently had a major meltdown in twenty sixteen with his father. 263 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: He cut his hand, he threatened to kill himself and 264 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: to kill his father. EMT came, the police came. How 265 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: did he get hired? I think that's what the governor 266 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: of Virginia wants to know. How did he get hired 267 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: after that? All we heard so far from them was well, 268 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: that was a human era, which means they know what happened. 269 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: They don't want to admit, you know, who's screwed up, 270 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: who didn't do their job. The only way you'd miss 271 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: this is if you didn't do the background check for 272 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: his name to skip then right, yeah, well it's one 273 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: thing to have a criminal record. Now he had some 274 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: sort of didn't you have like a temporary detention order? 275 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: Would that be? And then he go into a psych facility? 276 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, right, would that be into a different collection 277 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: of records or something? And they just got lazy They 278 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: to look there? Yes, I don't know, Yeah, they got 279 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: lazy and they didn't look. Yeah, it's not like he 280 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: was a bank robber. This would probably go through a 281 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: different system because I suspect that most of the places 282 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: they claim they do background checks, including police departments, don't 283 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: because that's work. And I think most people in their 284 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: little cubicle holes don't want to work because it's boring. 285 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: And especially if you work for the government, why should 286 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: you work. You're not going to get fired and you're 287 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: gonna get a lifetime pension someday. So just sit there, dude, 288 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: one of the I think that's what they do. They 289 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: sit there. Spokespeople for the Virginia State Police says, Oh, no, 290 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: we do not hire troopers who have been detained under 291 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: emergency custody orders or what they call temporary detention orders. 292 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: But apparently this fell through the cracks. Our background check 293 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: process did not work. I hate that phrase. That phrase 294 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: is banned fell through the cracks. Oh no, I gave 295 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: that one. She didn't say that. Yeah, they just said 296 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: human era. I was not a quote. But if you 297 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: want to ban me from saying it, I'm gonna ban 298 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: you from saying. Okay, from saying I rarely say it, 299 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: but I was just trying to well rephrase what they said. 300 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: They just said human era. Yeah, it's it's people, not 301 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: I am tired of all the excuses like well, you know, 302 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: it's red tape, it's you know, I got lost in 303 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: the bureaucracy, you're all. You know what they did. It 304 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: looks like they looked at his prior employers. No employers 305 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: just closed any troubles or reprimands or internal investigations, pretending 306 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: to Edwards. That's maybe all they did. They didn't look 307 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: at anything else but where he worked before, because that's 308 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: what a lot of people do when they're gonna hire you. 309 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: They'd like to see what happened with you with your 310 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: previous employers. They might look at a criminal database, but 311 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: often what they're interested in. But when you're gonna be 312 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: a cop, there has to be a higher bar. Yeah, yeah, 313 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: because if you had a moment like that, the next 314 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: time you have a moment like that, you may end 315 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: up killing people. And look, he had another moment, big 316 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: moment now. But again, you know what that is. That 317 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: is a lack of acceptance about the depth of mental illness. 318 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: That human beings have tremendous mental illness, and there seems 319 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: to be more of it than ever, and especially accelerated 320 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: by all the drug use. And it's just everyone place 321 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: pretend everyone just doesn't doesn't spond I there was sort 322 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: of being overlooked here. He entered the Virginia State Police Academy, 323 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: graduated January twenty first, became a state trooper, but then 324 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: he quit and he took a job with the Sheriff's 325 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: office in Washington County as a deputy. What about their 326 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: background check? Did they just rely on the fact that 327 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: he was in Virginia State trooper graduate and they just thought, Okay, 328 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: well they did the background check, we don't have to 329 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: because it seems like they didn't do anything either to 330 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: vet him. He got a job with the Sheriff's the 331 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: same story. It's another guy in a cubicle. He didn't 332 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: want to bother. Now I understand why the governor wants 333 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: an investigation into this. You know, the thing is, we 334 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: accept a lot of absurdity in life, right, and we 335 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: shrug it off because you can't change it. As you 336 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: want to apply for a building permit, right and it 337 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: takes six months? Why would it should it take six months? Right? 338 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: You go to the DMV and it's it's a long 339 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: slow line. Why is it There's no reason for any 340 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: of this. You know, you felt any kind of government 341 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: for him and you send it, all, right, And this 342 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: is true if you deal with insurance companies or or 343 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: all the all the bureaucracy in America, nobody could nobody 344 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: answers the phone anymore. Right, you get customer service reps 345 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: who don't even speak English. They're not even in your hemisphere. 346 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: It's just a complete lack of anybody cares. What does 347 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: it matter? Now, This is not to say he still 348 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't have come to California, and he still wouldn't have 349 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: catfished the girl online even if he was not the 350 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: Virginia state trooper or county deputy. Right, he could still 351 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: have come to California. And oh yeah, that's right. I 352 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: mean it might have you know, changed the trajectory of 353 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: his life because he's intended to be a teenager. He 354 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: didn't pretend to be what he was cop or anything. 355 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: So it's just, you know, fate led him to that 356 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: day where he found this girl online. I mean, you also, 357 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: people have to protect themselves. There are a lot of 358 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: crazy cat fishers out there. And that's another stupid term too. 359 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: I hate it's a stupid term. And but there's a 360 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: lot of those guys out there, right, Men are basically predators, 361 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: and it just how much how civilized have they become 362 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: since they were born, right, And and some guys never 363 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: get civilized, and they're always predators and they're always acting out, 364 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: you know. And there's Harvey Weinstein or this guy. And 365 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: you have to, especially if you have daughters, raise them 366 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: never to go online and talk to strangers. But there's 367 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: a lot of parental negligence that goes on all right, 368 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: when we come back Gavin Knewsom then and Gavin Knewsom now, 369 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: But it's really just a couple of months apart where 370 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 1: he makes completely different statements about what's going on at 371 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: the US Mexico border a couple of months ago. Ah, 372 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: this is all made up stuff. Now it's an emergency. 373 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: California is going under. We're spending a lot to take 374 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: in the migrants. Wow, we'll play the audio. Johnny ken 375 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: KF I Am six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio Apple. 376 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: Listen to this headline about the heart be Weinstein case. Yes, 377 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's right. Though they're they're not deliberating today. 378 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: They're not. They I heard saying yesterday they went home 379 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: yesterday and that's it till Monday. They're tired. They're taking 380 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday off sometimes sometimes jewelryes skip Fridays. Wow, 381 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to be a sense of urgency there anyway. 382 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: The headline is Weinstein hung question mark. Oh very cute 383 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: with all this talk about his GENITALI. Yeah, that's right. 384 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: That's a real headline. Isn't that what it has to be? Yeah, 385 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: it must be. But when that happens, they send a 386 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: note to the judge that they're deadlocked. Have they have they? 387 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: Have they done that? We haven't been told or they've 388 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: not done Maybe these people want more time off work 389 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: or oh, you're right, or maybe they think that they 390 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: can resolve this without going to the judge. Maybe they're 391 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: not hopelessly deadlocked. Hopelessly deadlocked hopelessly that's usually what they 392 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: say because they want to get out. They want to 393 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: just remember a miss trial and start over. All the 394 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: media cliches, you have them, you can spin them out 395 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: like a machine. No wait, I didn't say. What are 396 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: the times words again, that it's a whirlwind, or it's 397 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: are we're reeling and we're reeling, We're royaled and we're royal, 398 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: We're royaled and reeling, joining us after three o'clock is 399 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: Brandon Judd. He used the president of the National Border 400 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: Patrol Council, that's the border patrol agents. Wow, he can 401 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: talk to I'm actually starting to see this week more 402 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: coverage by the rest of the media on the US border. 403 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: It's happening because there's as much as it was a 404 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: huge surge most of this year, right now it's off 405 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: the charts because the crowd is finding out the title 406 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: forty two is going to end. I apparently it's about 407 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: a week from today, and when that ends, it is 408 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: supposed to be an even bigger surge. They're just trying 409 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: to get a head start. It's sort of like early 410 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: Black Friday shopping. Yeah, so they're coming to our border 411 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: already and camping out. Well you see the Wall Street 412 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: Journal pictures about the El Paso Oh my god. Yeah, 413 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: the mobs that are just sitting there lined up at 414 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: the border. Yeah. Well Fox covers it every day. Bill, 415 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: our friend Bill illusion is damn there. Oh yeah, right, 416 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: but what they what? They have drones that go flying 417 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: over and so they have official estimate they think it's 418 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: going to be about fourteen thousand. To alarm, there's enophobic 419 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: audience is that what they're trying to do. We'll see 420 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: if they're right. Sure, looks like they're right from the photos. 421 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: I know all the tricks on both sides. Fourteen thousand 422 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: a day they're expecting. So he can talk about this 423 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: surge and how bad it's going to be when article 424 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: title forty two is actually dissolved, Just so you know, 425 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: in case your favorite network newscast doesn't run any coverage, 426 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: which is the way it's been most of the time 427 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: for two years, there's there's gonna be video of maybe 428 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: fourteen thousand people a day pilot over the border, and 429 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: that's what they won't show. All right, So we present 430 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: to you idiot number one in the state, Gavin Newsom, 431 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: the governor, who, of course is running for president. He's 432 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: bored being your governor because the problems we have, including homelessness. 433 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: He's bored, right, I don't want to do this anymore. 434 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: He's raising money apparently. I have read that he has 435 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: compiled a digital database of emails phone numbers, so all 436 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: the people are going to give him money when he 437 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: runs for president. Whether or not it's in twenty four 438 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: remains to be seen. He's acting like, oh no, no, 439 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: not even in twenty twenty eight. No, I'm not interested. 440 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: But everything not what people say, it's what they do. 441 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: Everything he does is somebody running for president. Yeah, and 442 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: plus we know he's a pathological liar, so if he 443 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: says he's not running, well of course he's running. So 444 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: he's made an appearance of the border sticking his beak 445 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: and another big national subject. He went to the US 446 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: Mexico border here in eastern California. We present to you 447 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: first though, because he called it a big crisis, particularly 448 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: the state got to pay out billions because we're taken 449 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: in some of these migrants, and he needs help from 450 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: Washington and the borders broken at blah blah blah. But 451 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: back in September at the CODE Conference whatever that is, 452 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: he was asked by Preet Bihara about people leaving California, 453 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: and Newstom goes off and blames Trump and then talks 454 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: about the US Mexico border. Are more people leaving California 455 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: for Texas? We're leaving Texas for California. We lost about 456 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty two thousand folks in the last 457 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: So how do you explain that against the backdrop of 458 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: those very remarkable statistics. You just cited many factors, and 459 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: there's been two deep analysis that drives the number one factor, 460 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: almost the vast majority of almost the entire amount impacted 461 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: because of the visa policies and the Trump administration. I mean, 462 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: our formula for success is getting first round draft choice 463 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: around the rest of the world. I mean, we're as 464 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: dumb as we want to be. This whole damn border 465 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: debate is made up. It's made up. Where's Congress? Where 466 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: the hell are they? They haven't done their job, both 467 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: parties comprehensive immigration reform. No state has more to lose 468 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: more state state has more to gain than the state 469 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: of California from Silicon Valley to Central Valley on that reform. 470 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: So it's a combination of those factors. Now, what he's 471 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: mostly talking about here is the whole visa thing. And 472 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: we talked about this in depth a couple of years ago, 473 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: and Trump was trying to tamp down on these visas 474 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: where they were bringing in sometimes tech workers from India 475 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: to replace Americans in their jobs. Remember that famous story 476 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: of a Disney worker actually had to train his replacement. 477 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: He's the first main context he's lying because it was 478 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: the most of the most of the people are that 479 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: that leave California, and everybody knows somebody who's left California. 480 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: They're leaving because of the quality of life, and they're 481 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: moving to any number of states like Texas, Arizona, Las Vegas. 482 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: They're not tech workers, they're not Indians on a visa. 483 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: You know, he plucked that. That is a separate category there. 484 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: And if you leave on a visa, if you're leaving 485 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: for visa purposes, you're gonna end up going home back 486 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: to the home country because your visa ties you to 487 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 1: that job. So he's lying and misleading people. People are 488 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: moving out for obvious reasons, all right, But the key 489 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: quote there is the whole damn border debate is made up. 490 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: Is made up? Made up? Then this is September. Now, 491 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: we saw a surge all year long. We're seeing a 492 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: bigger surge now than we did in September, which brings 493 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: us to Monday when he went to the border, and 494 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: this is part of what he said. The fact is 495 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: what we've got right now is not working and is 496 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: about to break in a post forty two world unless 497 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: we take some responsibility and ownership. So going back to 498 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: the first clip, should we should pass comprehensive immigration reform amnesty, 499 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: and that's going to tamp down the flood at the border. 500 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? When the world finds out that 501 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: we're given out an amnesty again, we'll be even more 502 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: overwhelmed than ever. Yeah, that that phrase is all the 503 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,719 Speaker 1: thinking will be. If you can get into the country, 504 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: wait for the next amnesty that phrase, you'll be on 505 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: the path to citizenship for twenty years. Comprehensive immigration reform 506 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: has been another tired, tired cliche phrase that means amnesty, 507 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: and that that's what he's pushing there. But um, if 508 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: we if we gave that amnesty, that's not going to 509 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: relieve California of all the financial burdens of caring for 510 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: their housing, their schooling, their medical care. And it's going 511 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: to be a huge especially now with Biden erasing the border, 512 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: it's going to be thousands and thousands, tens of thousands 513 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: more coming to California. Right, So, yes, it's it's going 514 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: to break the budget because now now he's talking like this, 515 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: there's a there's a deficit projected. That ninety seven billion 516 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: dollars surplus has now turned into a deficit because that 517 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: was a one time fake money gift from the federal government. 518 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: It's gone now, it's been spent. Yeah, and he's sitting 519 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: there or sitting on his thumb right now because he 520 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: hasn't know what to do next. So now he's going 521 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: to smell good. He no, that's that. You don't want 522 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: to touch his thumb. So he's so that now he's 523 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: this this immigration hawk. Now it's gonna break us. I 524 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: you know what he is? Boy, is he running for president? 525 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: Hero is he preparing for the next big deficit because 526 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: he's already pleading almost poverty. And the reason he's saying 527 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: it's breaking us is because apparently and who said you 528 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: had to California has been taking in a lot of 529 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: these migrants. I wasn't even aware of that, were you. 530 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: We've seen that they've been sent to other well, Florida 531 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: governor and Texas governor sending him to New York and 532 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: Chicago and places like that. But the federal government, it 533 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: was flying migrants all of the country. Yeah, so maybe 534 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: behind our backs, Newsom was saying, sure, send them here 535 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: and secretly just providing places for them. I don't know 536 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: that's what he but he's acting like they spent a 537 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: lot of money, like a billion dollars or something. Well, 538 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: he says, it's it's about to break us. So they 539 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: must have sent a lot here and nobody publicized it 540 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 1: because we now have a left wing media that just 541 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: engages and cover up and propaganda. So if we got 542 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of legal aliens, that has no longer 543 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: published as news now that happens, But the Dusk gave 544 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: out healthcare for illegal aliens. They've been passing these budgets 545 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: the last couple of years of all this permanent spending 546 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: in it. We're going to be screwed if the deficit 547 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: reports come true next year, and they probably will. This 548 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: is a bad year for the stock markets, and they'll 549 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: probably roll over into next year and that really affects 550 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: their income tax take, which is a big part of 551 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: their budget. All right again, we'll be talking to Brandon 552 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: Judd after three. He is the president of the Border 553 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: Patrol Council that the union for the Border patrol agents. 554 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: He can tell us all about the surge, particularly Man 555 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: l Pass of Texas. Johnny ken KF I AM six 556 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: forty Live everywhere the iHeartRadio app All right again, after three, o'clock. 557 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: Brandon Judd will be back on the show, president of 558 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: the National Border Patrol Council of course, the Union for 559 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: the Border Patrol Agents, to talk about the surge, to 560 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: talk about the end titled forty two, which is held 561 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: back some of the tide and because it's going to end, 562 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: it's leading to a huge surge right now, particularly in 563 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: l Passo, Texas. Also apparently majorcas came and Borda Patrol 564 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: agents confronted him recently with all sorts of questions about 565 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 1: the fact that they are just overworked. Some of them 566 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: are having mental health problems. There's been some suicides. It's 567 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: a terrible situation because I think it was Brandon Judge 568 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: who said this on TV yesterday. If there are two 569 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: thousand immigrants come over the border each day, two thousand, 570 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: the border patrol is stretched to its limits. Now if 571 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: you're talking about you know, ten to twenty thousand, then 572 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna be complete chaos. Right. They're forced to do 573 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: all this asylum paperwork. That's part of the problem. There's 574 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: plenty of people coming in. There's also a lot of 575 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: people coming in and not just not just to run 576 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: in and disappear, but to run in and officially get 577 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: asylum because they hope eventually that leads to some kind 578 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: of legal protection, right, and he's you know, the border 579 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: patrol agents have to handle all this ridiculous government paperwork. 580 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: So we'll get into it with Brandon after three o'clock. Well, 581 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: some good news something we talked about a couple of 582 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: times this week, and that was well, it started out 583 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: bad news for John Colblt the end of the Griffith 584 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: Park pony rides. After seventy years, they're shutting down. The 585 00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: city did not renew their license. The problem for operator 586 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: Stephen Weeks was what am I going to do with 587 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: all these ponies? The good news is apparently almost all 588 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: of them have been And I hate this term rehomed. 589 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: Why don't people speak English anymore? People like to rename 590 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: things because it's cool to come up with something rehomed. 591 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: It's also softer. It's like, oh, they've been given a 592 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: new home that they're just saying it. Just say they've 593 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: been they have a new home. I don't know. I 594 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: don't know. I had somebody that I know last year, 595 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: a few years ago, I adopted a puppy and it 596 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: didn't work out, and she said to me, Yeah, I've 597 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: rehomed it. It's like the first time I heard that word. 598 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: You what if you if you look at some of 599 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: these websites that are trying to get dogs adopted, they'll 600 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: say they need to be rehomed. That's the trendy term. Yes, yeah, 601 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: because it's cozy or and nicer. Uh. He said that 602 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: he got tons of telephone calls and emails with all 603 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: the publicity in the story, and when people found out 604 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: that the ponies need a home, they responded, said fifty 605 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: calls a day. Since the announcement, almost all of them 606 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: have found homes twenty five now, a lot of them 607 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: going to farms, but he says there's a few that 608 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: are now this talks to Debora Mark side not in 609 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 1: good shape. They're gonna have to go to a sanctuary 610 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: because they're going to need special care for the for 611 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 1: the rest of their lives. They're kind of broken down, see, 612 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: because of going around and around and yeah, how would 613 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: you like somebody sitting on your back all day? I 614 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't like it at all. Get on your hands and knees, 615 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: John to walk around. Debora Mark will jump up there 616 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: and yeah, if you like that, well, oh boy, Okay, 617 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: it sounds like a pretty wild amusement. Yeah your idea. Yeah, 618 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 1: he said they got all sorts of inquiries. They claim 619 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: that they're vetting all some of them got old. Yes, 620 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it doesn't mean the ponies were abused. Isn't 621 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: just they were just gold? Yeah, happens to everybody. No, 622 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: it said that the city did hire a third party 623 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: vet to examine the animals and no abuse was found. Right. 624 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: That that should be the big that should be the 625 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: first line of all these stories is they checked out 626 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: the ponies. None of them were abused. None of them 627 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: were interviewed one by one, sure in separate rooms. Right, 628 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: And they said they're done, they're tired, and they just 629 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: want to live their lives without people on their backs. 630 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: I don't mean they say, I enjoy the children, and 631 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 1: I get food here and a place to sleep. It's 632 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: not a burden for a horse or a pony to 633 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: ride somebody on their back. I know I'm on the 634 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: fence about that. I just don't ride horses, but I 635 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: am on the fence. But you know what, these ponies 636 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: are going to live their best lives now they're gonna 637 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: be bored to death. No, they used to have all day. 638 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: They had work, they had purpose, they were making little 639 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: children happy. Well, you know what, if they'll be home 640 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: to a family that has some small kids, then there 641 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: you go. Yeah. I think they're mostly going to farms 642 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: where there's already horses, he said, so they'll just be 643 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: part of the collection. But he claims they will not 644 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: be working in their new homes. He wanted to make 645 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: that clear that they're not going to be sent to 646 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 1: another to another pony ride place. That's what he thinks 647 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 1: that he well, and they're not gonna be plowing the field. 648 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: You know what. I just I just hate that that 649 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 1: screaming mental patients have destroyed another source of pleasure. She's 650 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: been rather on their side. I just employed being on 651 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 1: their side is different from being out there and being 652 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: out the screaming at the children, which is what they 653 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: were doing. I would never scream at the children. No, No, 654 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: you know, scream at the parents. Well, maybe it's more likely, 655 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 1: all right. Our guest next is Brandon Judd, the president 656 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: of the National Border Patrol Council. He's always great. You 657 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: got to hear this interview, and of course he'll be 658 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: pretty worked up. There is another border searche going on 659 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: because this title of forty two that kept all the 660 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: migrants out because of COVID is about to expire. And 661 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: even though it's not news in America, it is sure 662 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 1: news in other parts of the world. So we've got 663 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: a brand new search. Johnny Ken CAF I Am six 664 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 1: forty live everywhere, the iHeartRadio app in Deborah Mark Live 665 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: in the twenty four hour CAFI Newsroom