Speaker 1: It's not with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hello, Hi,
Speaker 1: podcast world. Look, we're together. We're together. This is so
Speaker 1: much better just we're just here him. It's logistical, we
Speaker 1: don't live that close to each other, but it is
Speaker 1: so much better together. We're here sitting on our floor,
Speaker 1: but we're not here alone because we have with us
Speaker 1: today though, and and only Amy Sugarman. Hey, I'm so pumped.
Speaker 1: I feel like that you deserve your own show. You do,
Speaker 1: That's what Sissany will be back, but I am here
Speaker 1: for one more episode, and I am so glad I
Speaker 1: got this episode. You love Mexican Standoff because I love
Speaker 1: Grant Show so much and I love Jake Hampson, and
Speaker 1: I can't believe, like I feel lucky that this is
Speaker 1: the episode where we meet him. I feel your love
Speaker 1: affair for with Grant Shows is new, like it just
Speaker 1: started really developing. Like her love affair with Iron's hearing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's new too. But I do think Grant shows aging
Speaker 1: like a fine wine, Like he looks real good. But
Speaker 1: I have a special place in my heart as we
Speaker 1: all know, for nine o two one oh, but also
Speaker 1: Melrose Place. So for me, this was like It took
Speaker 1: me back to like, oh my god, this is when
Speaker 1: this show happening. It's happening in this episode, the next
Speaker 1: two episodes, the best of both worlds. It'll just never
Speaker 1: quite be the same, remember that everything. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't want to jump ahead, but literally, when he says, oh,
Speaker 1: I live in a little place on Melrose Melrose, really
Speaker 1: we just gotta call it Beverly Place, and then we
Speaker 1: have both worlds exactly. I was like, we player, that's
Speaker 1: a good one, a good idea. Really mix them mix
Speaker 1: them up, mix him back. Yeah, No, one's done that
Speaker 1: a mash up. Yeah. I mean when he said that,
Speaker 1: it was like it just came back like a flood,
Speaker 1: like oh my god. And it's such a little wink.
Speaker 1: Now whereas at the time you didn't even notice it
Speaker 1: because there was no Melrose Place, but now looking back,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god. And then all I could
Speaker 1: think of was the hair the wig pulling off. You guys,
Speaker 1: remember that on Melrose Marha Cross. Wait, I will never
Speaker 1: get that image of Marcia Cross pulling that wig off
Speaker 1: is literally like, Jenny, you did not watch Melrose Place? No,
Speaker 1: when was I supposed to watch Melrose Places? Working she
Speaker 1: didn't even have talking to watch our show. I was
Speaker 1: very available, and I watched that was like a turning
Speaker 1: point from Meller's place, right like when that happens, that
Speaker 1: was like whole thing, just like it was massive. And
Speaker 1: then I at the time, I was still in college,
Speaker 1: so I was watching. We were watching and melrose place
Speaker 1: in the sorority in the TV room, which I think
Speaker 1: I've told you guys before, Like we had a TV
Speaker 1: room and eighteen girls would go squish themselves in there.
Speaker 1: Then I moved to l a few years later, and
Speaker 1: I saw marsh Across in the freaking grocery store, and
Speaker 1: like it was like actually scary because that wig scene
Speaker 1: was so iconic. Oh you guys, which leaves us all
Speaker 1: back to episode Mexican Standoff aired April Synopsis. Brenda crosses
Speaker 1: the border with Dylan against her parents demands. Kelly finds
Speaker 1: Dylan's friend Jake, eases her new family fears. Directed by
Speaker 1: Bradley Gross, written by Darren Starrs, Steve Ausserman and Jessica
Speaker 1: Klein m Well. So this was this was actually a
Speaker 1: two part season finale, and this was the first of
Speaker 1: two episodes. It was do you guys think about the
Speaker 1: fact that you launched Melrose Place, Like I freaking can't
Speaker 1: handle that you launched Melrose Place. What wasn't us wed?
Speaker 1: But yes it was because I think about like Happy
Speaker 1: Days launched More More in mindy, so I think about
Speaker 1: like Cunningham and spawns Met Mork, So like you guys
Speaker 1: launched Melrose Place. Yeah. Wait? How often does this happen
Speaker 1: to you? That people get them mixed up and they'll
Speaker 1: come up to be like, oh my god, I'm such
Speaker 1: a fan. I love your show, and then they freeze
Speaker 1: because in their head they're like trying to get numbers,
Speaker 1: and then they're like Milo's Place. Sometimes it happened, sometimes
Speaker 1: you correct them. No, no, me neither, because ethnically we
Speaker 1: were on. Yeah. So even though this is the launch,
Speaker 1: then the following season where the two shows back to back,
Speaker 1: they aired ours, then there's right, yeah, we believe them.
Speaker 1: Wait because they were a later case though. What happened
Speaker 1: to Melra's Monday's Party of Five is after us? Wait?
Speaker 1: Wait wait? Was it the first season though? Or were
Speaker 1: you never back to back? I'm gonna have to refer
Speaker 1: back to my edition of TV Guide because I don't know.
Speaker 1: Ak Riley what do you think? Yeah, Riley, let's coming
Speaker 1: in coming, in coming, in hot. This was a very
Speaker 1: very exciting episode. Not only did it start start out
Speaker 1: with everybody's favorite couple making out hard core on the
Speaker 1: couch that was all body parts pressed together. It was
Speaker 1: like there was no separation, grinding, and there was lots
Speaker 1: of things happening that That scene made me wonder and
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, is this I was how could
Speaker 1: he not become? Like? That's what any boy? How could
Speaker 1: you not become you know, arouse the bright red scrunch,
Speaker 1: that's what you were, that's what you're looking h I
Speaker 1: wrote my notes saying, make out sash with a bright
Speaker 1: red sponge. So at the time they are just sort
Speaker 1: of kissing as the audience were just supposed to assume
Speaker 1: that they sort of fool around. Yeah, they just lay
Speaker 1: on the couch and make out. And I was watching
Speaker 1: it thinking, is that what you used to do? I
Speaker 1: guess it is? Or is that what you still do
Speaker 1: when you like, first meet someone, You just lay on
Speaker 1: the couch half on, half off and just mash for hours.
Speaker 1: But but they were on top but connected hit the toe,
Speaker 1: aren't they? No? Yeah? Yeah, so is that dry? Humping you. Oh,
Speaker 1: they don't say that anymore. You just did world. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's interesting because he had a bed, and even if
Speaker 1: they weren't going to sleep together, like meaning have sex,
Speaker 1: they could have watched TV in the bed. But I
Speaker 1: guess maybe wasn't he didn't have a TV in his bedroom.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah. And I guess maybe she felt it was
Speaker 1: right to just be on the couch. Why they've already
Speaker 1: they've already done it in the bed, I know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it was just for the viewer.
Speaker 1: I think it was just full on for the viewer,
Speaker 1: for us to watch them make out and be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, wish that was me on his food
Speaker 1: on we wish we were her. Now, can you guys
Speaker 1: go back to that time. Was Baha a thing? Because
Speaker 1: he starts right away talking about like I'm going to
Speaker 1: Baha for the weekend. I think it's always a thing
Speaker 1: for the surfers like Baha, or maybe back then it
Speaker 1: was more of a thing. It's it was a little
Speaker 1: more undiscovered. Made me think of point break. It's only surfing,
Speaker 1: you know. Have you ever been? I've never been. I've
Speaker 1: lived in California for forty seven years. The same as Cabo. No,
Speaker 1: it's not as far. You can't it takes eight hours
Speaker 1: to drive from Beverly Hills to Baja in that car.
Speaker 1: They made it eight Harry. Remember during one point we
Speaker 1: were going to go on a road trip with our
Speaker 1: families and we wanted to get to Mexico, but we
Speaker 1: didn't want to fly. I think it was is that
Speaker 1: like near Rosarrita and Sonata When I said and Sonata, yeah,
Speaker 1: Abo is in Baja. Baha is the region. Oh and
Speaker 1: then you just fly. That's like the other I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. So PSAL eight hours all wants to
Speaker 1: drive eight hours to serve especially since could you just said?
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand they had to set it up
Speaker 1: with the environment having problems, and that's why the beach
Speaker 1: was closed, which I thought was amazing considering it was
Speaker 1: thirty years ago. So do you guys remember that part
Speaker 1: where Dylan and Brenda go and then it's like they
Speaker 1: can't do her. Wait were they in Baja when the
Speaker 1: when the beach was dirty? That was in California. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But when I watched it, um I was confused. Yeah,
Speaker 1: me too, I was like, wait, are they there? That's
Speaker 1: what I thought it was Baha, and then I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: but they met Jake. That's weird. And because we all
Speaker 1: know that they didn't really go to Baja. Everything really
Speaker 1: just California, right, But it was quite fortuitous, as one
Speaker 1: might say that they acknowledge the environment and its issues
Speaker 1: back then, because today that is like literally on CNN
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, our beaches are all closed, we've knowledge
Speaker 1: a lot of things saw on that show precursors to things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really amazing. But yes, Brendan and Dylan were very
Speaker 1: cute in this episode. I have to think that they
Speaker 1: those two made out more and more like hardcore than
Speaker 1: Kelly and Dylan. I feel like Dylan, I could be
Speaker 1: completely mistaken because I have just haven't seen that episode yet,
Speaker 1: but we haven't gotten there yet, but it feels like
Speaker 1: I don't remember making out with him like that. Now
Speaker 1: I have to rack my brain. I don't know you
Speaker 1: guys have that. Sorry, we can't spoil anything. You have
Speaker 1: iconic moments making out, but that was like hardcore considering
Speaker 1: and this is public knowledge that you know they at
Speaker 1: times had like a brother sister contentious relationship Shannon and Luke,
Speaker 1: but so did Luke and I. It was really different
Speaker 1: we thought sometimes in a very different way. Really pause,
Speaker 1: Paus pause, Please, I need more information, I need more,
Speaker 1: a lot more. You know the fun I guess she
Speaker 1: would tell you, because I didn't really know that they would.
Speaker 1: I don't remember them fighting on set. No, I don't
Speaker 1: remember it. I'm sorry for everybody that there was. Something
Speaker 1: happened a lunch bag, like a lunchbox. We were sitting outside,
Speaker 1: we passed the episode already eating, and like they got
Speaker 1: into a huge fight. I don't remember. It was usually
Speaker 1: like a prank gone too far. You pulled pranks on him,
Speaker 1: but like he would deal with your pranks. Her pranks
Speaker 1: went sometimes except the time I sprayed him in the
Speaker 1: eye with banoca that think over. Well, yeah, you guys
Speaker 1: are moving through this so fast. I need it slower. Okay.
Speaker 1: First of all, Jenny, you and Luke would sometimes have
Speaker 1: little spats. Little TIFFs are actually like arguments, well, little fights,
Speaker 1: little spats a little like you'r he's. He would annoy
Speaker 1: me a lot, and he loved to annoy me. Now
Speaker 1: how Brian annoyed me? Luke annoyed yes, okay, so almost
Speaker 1: playful spats. They sometimes yeah, you took tail banaca. We
Speaker 1: already talked about that. I think we might have, but
Speaker 1: no one will be mad if you tell it again. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: we had to spray the banoca before the kissing scenes.
Speaker 1: I definitely talked about this before. And I accidentally sprayed
Speaker 1: it right in his side like this, and then he
Speaker 1: was like, I think he had her riled up and
Speaker 1: she got into such like he was your frenzy that
Speaker 1: they were going back and forth, and then she wasn't
Speaker 1: thinking and did it right in his eye and he
Speaker 1: was bugging me, and so I was like, whatever, wherever
Speaker 1: the hit, I didn't care at that moment. In a
Speaker 1: hit him in the and I didn't Who knew it
Speaker 1: would be like lethal? Send them to the boys ever
Speaker 1: have spats with one another? Or were they pretty much
Speaker 1: thick as thieves? Are you picking up what we're putting down?
Speaker 1: You know how in elementary school when boys, when they
Speaker 1: like girls, pull their pigtails, pull pranks on them and
Speaker 1: flip their skirts up the boys, that was different thing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's different. Oh my god, it's so good. And we
Speaker 1: were teenagers, we were Yeah, so sometimes it got like
Speaker 1: you know, in high school childish, but it was all
Speaker 1: seven together and boy girls kind of mh. But Luke
Speaker 1: liked to get Shannon riled up in a different way.
Speaker 1: They didn't, they got gen riled up. They seemed that
Speaker 1: they got to play out their anger on this episode though,
Speaker 1: because when they do go down to Mexico, she goes
Speaker 1: off hard on him about ovary action. We'll get to Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about it. I'm sorry, I don't
Speaker 1: want to talk about it. We're going so out of order,
Speaker 1: but we can jump around, okay, okay, so let's just
Speaker 1: get into it. And that was a total overreaction. But
Speaker 1: also really with the owner of the inn, Yeah, she's like,
Speaker 1: she meets Brenda Rosata or is that her name? Come Rosita?
Speaker 1: She meets Brenda and then automatically goes to, oh, Dylan,
Speaker 1: tell me how what's her name? Stacy? How is she? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But why would you do that? He's here clearly with
Speaker 1: another girl. Why would you mention that it's so nine
Speaker 1: two totally convenient? Did you think that Brenda overreacted? Yes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I would feel the same way, but I
Speaker 1: probably would have not exploded in front of Rosita even Hey,
Speaker 1: can we go talk over here for a minute, She's all,
Speaker 1: don't bother, I'll get your key double. I mean, wait,
Speaker 1: I have a question for you. How would Kelly have
Speaker 1: handled that? I think she would have just probably left
Speaker 1: in it tiff and not been as vocal in that
Speaker 1: environment in front of a stranger, would be my instinct.
Speaker 1: Do we think it was sort of teenage? Because like, okay,
Speaker 1: pretend you're you're dating someone and you go on a
Speaker 1: trip and you find out when you were broken up
Speaker 1: he went there with someone else. I'm sure you're not
Speaker 1: like stoked, but I don't know that was it that day?
Speaker 1: I feel the same, like, okay, so you know, like
Speaker 1: when you go on date night with you, When I
Speaker 1: go on date night with my husband sometimes and or
Speaker 1: he'll say, oh, yeah, I've been here. We go to
Speaker 1: a hotel somewhere, he's saying I've been yeah, I've been
Speaker 1: here before, or even vice versa. If I say that
Speaker 1: to him, who you've been here with? Wait? What what tells?
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Like? I want to know the details,
Speaker 1: and then I don't want to know them. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so I guess it's pretty real. Here's the news flash
Speaker 1: to anyone. If you been there previously with an ex
Speaker 1: or anyone you've dated. Just don't mention you've ever been there,
Speaker 1: or pick a different spot. Creative, you go back to
Speaker 1: this place. Here's the thing. I don't think it's bad.
Speaker 1: If he had said, hey, I it is bad, the
Speaker 1: whole thing is bad. He shows onto a different spot.
Speaker 1: But it was someone he went with while they were
Speaker 1: broken up, so it wasn't even pre Brenda. It was
Speaker 1: like last summer. That wasn't a long enough time ago.
Speaker 1: It wasn't technically cheating a little bit. Wait, Torry just
Speaker 1: pointed out that I kind of looked like Garth from
Speaker 1: Well a little bit, you do a little bit. If
Speaker 1: I could imitate him right now, I would, Oh wait, world, wait,
Speaker 1: why can't I think of that guy's name. It's Mike
Speaker 1: Myers and Dana Carr. Bad. It's my hair. It looks
Speaker 1: really bad. I'm sorry. It looks like a bad Garth wing,
Speaker 1: but it is an actual garthair. Do okay anyway? Sorry, sorry, wit.
Speaker 1: I feel like we should go back, because that's really
Speaker 1: like it. I don't like being out of order at all.
Speaker 1: Let's bring it back, so right now, okay, So Dylan
Speaker 1: has just brought a baja, So now we're sort of
Speaker 1: trying to we're going all the way back. Okay, basically, okay,
Speaker 1: we got to talk about the fact that Brenda keeps
Speaker 1: coming home late past curfew. And then Jim is pissed.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get that because I couldn't have done that.
Speaker 1: Why does she think that's okay? And and he's so
Speaker 1: rational about it. Yeah, like we can talk about tomorrow.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, we're gonna talk about it right now.
Speaker 1: It's very calm in his room. And I was feeling too,
Speaker 1: like as a parent, like I know the feeling of
Speaker 1: when my teens are out of the house at night,
Speaker 1: you can't sleep, it's impossible, or if you do, your
Speaker 1: doze off and you wake up and just freak out
Speaker 1: and they're not home. But it's just think back then,
Speaker 1: poor Jim and say he didn't have you know, they
Speaker 1: weren't able to text their kids or call their kids
Speaker 1: on the phone. They just had to wait and not know.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I guess they they probably had Dylan's
Speaker 1: phone number. I would think, like to his like his landline.
Speaker 1: I think considering they handled stuff really well, I think
Speaker 1: they were really cool parents this whole episode, Like Cindy
Speaker 1: she's probably in a motel. He's like, you're okay with that?
Speaker 1: She's like, did you guys think? Okay, we're going back
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I did write this down. Okay.
Speaker 1: So in that opening scene, it's the makeout session, Dylan
Speaker 1: starts talking about Baja and Brenda's talking to did you
Speaker 1: think she talked sexy? Like she was trying really hard
Speaker 1: to talk. She's like, He's like, you're going to be late,
Speaker 1: and she's like, I tipto, Like I was like, oh no,
Speaker 1: but like I wasn't into that talking sexy, but someone
Speaker 1: else in this episode talk sexy and I was into that?
Speaker 1: Was that sexy? My god? Yeah, we gotta get get
Speaker 1: to that later. Okay, but come back. Jim's in his robe.
Speaker 1: He's strict. And then I did laugh when Brenda says,
Speaker 1: I'm seventeen years old, Yeah, exactly, Like that means you
Speaker 1: just the rules don't apply. Apparently because she's seventeen, she's
Speaker 1: so muchure and she says to him, Daddy, I always
Speaker 1: make the right choices or something like that, do you exactly? So,
Speaker 1: as moms, what would you guys have done? One of
Speaker 1: your kids just continually comes home late and is that
Speaker 1: her boyfriend's, Oh, you can't go out there for me, Like,
Speaker 1: I have to be able to trust you. There's a
Speaker 1: curfew if you can't come in, you know when you
Speaker 1: say you're going to come in. Call At least there
Speaker 1: is a phone in Dylan's house. She could have called,
Speaker 1: but they fell asleep. When she will be different, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not quite there yet. I'm borderline almost
Speaker 1: there yet. With my teenagers, I'm a push over. Do
Speaker 1: you consider yourselves strict moms or more like Cindy who
Speaker 1: seemed chill. It's it's weird you would think I'm strict.
Speaker 1: She thinks I'm strict. I feel like i'm strict too.
Speaker 1: But when their dad talks to me about certain things,
Speaker 1: he'll be like, you are so lenient with them, You're
Speaker 1: so easy on them. You you give in too quickly.
Speaker 1: So he's definitely the more strict parent. Like Jim and Cindy,
Speaker 1: you're like a happy medium. You have good boundaries, though
Speaker 1: I try to take notes. It's yeah, I'm the total pushover,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna have to step it up to that point.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have Tori. You don't think you're strict or
Speaker 1: at least not yet at all, Like I'm yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I need to say way more boundaries. I'm so curious
Speaker 1: how this is going to go when your kids are right.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see it's gonna be goode is
Speaker 1: Was it just me? Or did this episode look brighter? Like?
Speaker 1: The lighting felt considerably different the whole everybody was more
Speaker 1: brightly lit than in any other ray as usual. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was very great, a whole different. I was wondering.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go back and check, but I didn't
Speaker 1: have time. Was it a new DP new you know,
Speaker 1: someone knew was on the I don't know. It just
Speaker 1: felt very different to me. And I also, oh one
Speaker 1: other thing. You know, when the girls are walking down
Speaker 1: the hallway and they're they're talking about the wedding. M m.
Speaker 1: Do you remember those magazines that they made us use.
Speaker 1: They were always fake magazines. They would put like a
Speaker 1: fake cover on a real magazine. It's where you found
Speaker 1: your bridesmaid dresses in the Yeah, no way, but you
Speaker 1: opened it up and it was like, you know, not
Speaker 1: not a bride magazine whatsoever. It was like binder paper.
Speaker 1: Was this the scene where David silver Uh tells you guys,
Speaker 1: he's giving them one diamond earring each because that was like,
Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of cool. He's so cool.
Speaker 1: That's so cool. And he thinks that they're gonna that
Speaker 1: his dad's gonna get his ear pere. It probably would
Speaker 1: have I bet you mel Silver would have done that.
Speaker 1: Why doesn't he end up having his ear peers. I
Speaker 1: feel like Matthew had his ear paris. Maybe it happens. Maybe.
Speaker 1: I also love when Kelly refers to Jim and Cindy
Speaker 1: as Jim and Cindy like you're talking to to because
Speaker 1: you always have that one like cool friend in high
Speaker 1: school that always refers to your parents as their full
Speaker 1: like their first names. I can't imagine my kids friends
Speaker 1: called saying to one of my kids, oh, so are
Speaker 1: Jenny and Dave okay with that? Or you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? It just sounds so weird. Did people call
Speaker 1: your dad Aaron or Mr Spelling Tory like all these guys, like, like,
Speaker 1: here's something weird. I'm in my late forties and when
Speaker 1: someone still calls my mom Candy, it inside makes me
Speaker 1: feel bad bad, how really like disrespectful. I'm always called
Speaker 1: parents mr mrs like mss like whatever. Always and he
Speaker 1: would always say, please call me by my first name,
Speaker 1: and I would feel so uncomfortable that I just didn't
Speaker 1: say their name. I kind of feel the same way.
Speaker 1: But my kids go to have always gone to school
Speaker 1: where they call even their teachers by their first name.
Speaker 1: You know, there's that new thing. Yeah, And so for
Speaker 1: them to for someone to come into the house, like
Speaker 1: one of the kids friends to come in and call
Speaker 1: me Mrs Garth, I'd be like, well, Mrs Garth, what
Speaker 1: do they your mom? What would they call me? What
Speaker 1: do they call you? Mrs Garth? Abrams? Okay, Mrs Abrams.
Speaker 1: And then they don't know if they're suppsed to be
Speaker 1: like miss Garth or Mrs Abrams, like take her husband's
Speaker 1: name like it's it's it's such a conundrum nowadays, and
Speaker 1: what do what do kids? What are your kids friends
Speaker 1: call you? Tory? Tory? They don't, No, I don't think
Speaker 1: they yet. They don't don't. They don't even look. I
Speaker 1: love how it like in the South where they say
Speaker 1: miss does that he's from Virginia, so he does Miss Caroline,
Speaker 1: Miss I think, I'm sorry, so beautiful, See I like that,
Speaker 1: and I've had it, Well, what school moms say like
Speaker 1: you've met like Finn's mom, Ms Tor, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that too. What's interesting is
Speaker 1: in the episode Kelly Kelly, Kelly refers to them as
Speaker 1: Jim and Cindy. But then when Mrs Walsh calls Jenny,
Speaker 1: you said hi, Mrs Walsh, so like you to her face,
Speaker 1: but when she's not around, I'm very yeah, sarcastic. So
Speaker 1: let's take a little break and then we're going to bar.
Speaker 1: I always felt mad, though, that we were the lead
Speaker 1: into melrose Place, because I knew that if they had
Speaker 1: the nine o'clock hour, it meant that their show was juicier,
Speaker 1: unlike that sort of meant more popular. So I felt
Speaker 1: like we're like the wimpy little lead in where the kids,
Speaker 1: Except technically the lead in is that you guys had
Speaker 1: a bigger audience, so that's why they would do it.
Speaker 1: In the theory intellivision, which you guys now I'm not
Speaker 1: teaching you guys, but is that the second show carries
Speaker 1: over that whole audience to them. So you guys were
Speaker 1: really the Mama bear bringing it. Yeah. Yeah, So were
Speaker 1: you shocked by how cool Cyndy is she was always
Speaker 1: cool though she was always the rational one. It's so weird,
Speaker 1: Like probably if I had watched it then I would
Speaker 1: have been like, she's so cool, But now watching it
Speaker 1: as a mom, I was like, I don't agree with
Speaker 1: that decision, Like I wouldn't be okay with them, just
Speaker 1: like randomly over and going for the weekend driving to
Speaker 1: Mexico in a convertible. Yes, that's what I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you. I wouldn't and I'm not even strict there.
Speaker 1: There's no way in Hello that my kids across the
Speaker 1: border with a with a guy Hello, without even any
Speaker 1: kind of identification apparently what she needs or they just say,
Speaker 1: don't drink too much of the water, honey, yes what
Speaker 1: you eat? Did you guys laugh at There was such
Speaker 1: a recurring theme about the water and do they have
Speaker 1: their shots? It was all about like you shot, You
Speaker 1: don't need shots to go to Mexico. I don't think
Speaker 1: you needed. That was so bizarre. Was interesting because I
Speaker 1: got mentioned a cut a few times. Andrea mentioned the
Speaker 1: water again. When is it that the water is not
Speaker 1: good to drink or it's just different water than they're
Speaker 1: used to, So that's why you get violent diarrhea. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think like if Stella yelled at me
Speaker 1: and was like, even like I hate you, I think
Speaker 1: I would still not allow her to drive to Mexico
Speaker 1: at seventeen years old and stay in a motel. Now
Speaker 1: this is the mogio would be Yeah, and it's Brenda.
Speaker 1: She has not a good track record with making good,
Speaker 1: good decisions, like, but she seems so confident in all
Speaker 1: of her decisions. She seems a little defiant too. She's
Speaker 1: always a little defiant. I don't know. At seventeen, I
Speaker 1: was like when like say, for instance, my last one
Speaker 1: was seventeen, I was still like, these these are this
Speaker 1: is my house, these are my rules. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to abide by it until you're eighteen, and then even
Speaker 1: when you're eighteen, if you're still living with me. There
Speaker 1: are certain things that I'm comfortable with and there are
Speaker 1: certain things that just aren't going to fly. And those
Speaker 1: were we agreed on them. Like she got it, she
Speaker 1: respected that. But I feel like Brenda thinks she's just
Speaker 1: a full on adult. Ye. I don't like her attitude.
Speaker 1: Like Stella recently has been talking about getting her nose
Speaker 1: pierced and I've let her get several holes because my
Speaker 1: mom didn't let me get my years piers till I
Speaker 1: was eighteen, so I ended up waiting till I was
Speaker 1: sporting into an it was Stella, so I did let
Speaker 1: her get her ears purest She has multiple ones, and
Speaker 1: now she's talking about, well, when I get my nose first.
Speaker 1: I was like when I was like no, I was like,
Speaker 1: you gotta wait on that one. And she's like, well,
Speaker 1: I have friends that got it when they were fifteen
Speaker 1: or sixteen. When I'm sixteen, I was like no. When
Speaker 1: I did feel a little old fashioned, I don't care
Speaker 1: because she's gonna have a little hole in her nose
Speaker 1: for the rest of her life. Never goes away. That's
Speaker 1: what I said. Unless you get it laser or sister,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's not worth it. I wouldn't let
Speaker 1: her Stella wait system. It's amazing to see now because
Speaker 1: when we all, when you guys did it and I
Speaker 1: watched it, then I wonder if I was like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I drive in Mexico, you know, and now it's like,
Speaker 1: what are they doing? So I just the perspective, we're
Speaker 1: just old now. My parents did let my friends and
Speaker 1: I drive to Palm Springs when we were seventeen. That
Speaker 1: was the most It was a huge mistake. I got
Speaker 1: my first reading ticket in a convertible because Donna and
Speaker 1: Tory had the same car, so I had the Champagne
Speaker 1: BMW convertible. I was trying to be cool in front
Speaker 1: of my friends and I sped and got it speeding ticket,
Speaker 1: which you have to go back to Pump Springs to
Speaker 1: do it there. You can't get it taken care of
Speaker 1: in l A. And oh I have my parents don't
Speaker 1: know this one. But we took colds, which aren't even
Speaker 1: a thing now. That's what they are to tell you that.
Speaker 1: I think it's like an elephant tranquilizers or a tranquilizer
Speaker 1: for a horse or something. It's cold. But I made
Speaker 1: I'm going on record that it's seventeen year year. Judgment
Speaker 1: is not there and I luckily nothing happened. But when
Speaker 1: I look back at that experience, I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: thank god. We were with a good group and nothing
Speaker 1: happened to us. But no way like M back on
Speaker 1: the BMW. Who had it first, Tori Spelling or Donna Martin.
Speaker 1: Tori Spelling and I already didn't like it. It wasn't good.
Speaker 1: You didn't it wasn't good enough for Tori. Spell No,
Speaker 1: I wanted a red Folkswagen. Wait like a bug, Wait,
Speaker 1: not folk rabbit, Rabbit, cabriole, cabriole, Oh my god, all
Speaker 1: I wanted. And I kept trying to make the comparison,
Speaker 1: like the price difference, like it's not even I'm asking
Speaker 1: for something like my mom's like, we want to get
Speaker 1: you a BMW. We feel like it's a safe car,
Speaker 1: it's a reliable car. And I was like, that's embarrassing
Speaker 1: because then I don't want to look rich, like and
Speaker 1: I love this car. It's gonna save you money. Isn't
Speaker 1: that good? She's like it's not safe, though, Um, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make you mad. Because my first car was a
Speaker 1: convertible Gabrielle I'm handing out, but it was rust orange
Speaker 1: and it was an older model because I remember, I
Speaker 1: had to buy it myself and pay for it myself
Speaker 1: because I had to have a job to pay for it. Wait,
Speaker 1: so I was technically working well kind of. I just
Speaker 1: found the pilot for nine A too, So I would
Speaker 1: have liked to have earned the money and paid for
Speaker 1: it myself because I would have felt better about that.
Speaker 1: You didn't get to spend your money the way you
Speaker 1: wanted to when you were making it. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how this played out. That was my
Speaker 1: birthday present. Yeah, I wish you would have stayed and
Speaker 1: put it checking account for something I couldn't have touched
Speaker 1: till later. Well, this brings us to a very important
Speaker 1: scene in this episode, which is even though we mentioned
Speaker 1: it briefly. Brenda and Dylan go to the beach to
Speaker 1: practice surfing. Bacteria is in the bay and the each
Speaker 1: is closed, and up comes the motorcycle with Jake Hansen.
Speaker 1: So can you guys remember Like, I know, we talked
Speaker 1: about it a little bit with Grant Show Jenny when
Speaker 1: you had him on, Like, do you guys remember it?
Speaker 1: You kind of knew you were launching a spin off
Speaker 1: with him, Like what do you Can you remember anything
Speaker 1: about him arriving two set? I don't because I wasn't
Speaker 1: in those first few scenes with him and the whole
Speaker 1: gang was together, but I was just magically missing. I
Speaker 1: guess they were saving that introduction for what they had
Speaker 1: set up. Oh yeah, because were you not at the
Speaker 1: peach pit? That's right. They probably did want to, which
Speaker 1: makes sense, what did you Because I felt like even
Speaker 1: Brenda was a little twitter painted with Jake his presence,
Speaker 1: you know, in the in the peach pit, like a
Speaker 1: little extra giggly. I remember he was. Yeah, he walked
Speaker 1: on the set and he was so cool, like it
Speaker 1: was like the Fons. Yeah, he actually went mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: So we learned that Dylan has a connection to Jake.
Speaker 1: So that's sort of like, here he comes apparently the
Speaker 1: biggest hug like do you see that was a really
Speaker 1: hardcore ing wham well the dude that taught him how
Speaker 1: to surprising to jump into you know, not at all.
Speaker 1: He's a land dweller. Yeah, And this is where we
Speaker 1: got the line. And I don't remember if somebody Brenda
Speaker 1: says like, where are you living? And he says, a
Speaker 1: little place off Melrose, nothing special. And I just wrote
Speaker 1: a giant heart on my like notes page because I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, it was a little nugget
Speaker 1: the way they underplayed it like that. And then he
Speaker 1: comes to the peach pit, so that must be where
Speaker 1: he met everybody but Kelly. Yes, And then I remember
Speaker 1: meeting him in the backyard when I go out to
Speaker 1: pay him for Jackie. I remember just being really worried
Speaker 1: about what I was wearing and how I looked. And
Speaker 1: because I was by myself, I didn't have any girls
Speaker 1: backing me up, Like it was just Kelly the makeup
Speaker 1: trailer before probably, but like also, like even in real life,
Speaker 1: you were a little something. Yeah, Like I just I
Speaker 1: wanted to do a good job. I wanted it to
Speaker 1: be good, like I wanted them to have that chemistry
Speaker 1: or whatever. And you know, I was so young. You
Speaker 1: think about those things when you're young like that, but
Speaker 1: he he was so um just like he's so effortlessly
Speaker 1: effortlessly cool. Yeah, I felt the chemistry and I was
Speaker 1: not creeped out by it. I know people now are like, oh,
Speaker 1: he was so much older than her, But I I
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. I thought it was really cool. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: was like twenty something and she was seventeen. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: technically was the same age as all the other guys
Speaker 1: playing high school students in our show. So yeah, but
Speaker 1: he was playing older like he was. He was like
Speaker 1: out on his own. He was like the ultimate It's true.
Speaker 1: But like when I saw you two in the backyard,
Speaker 1: I didn't think. I mean, he immediately says she has
Speaker 1: an adult daughter and person like that. I feel like
Speaker 1: he didn't know you were seventeen. Like I feel like
Speaker 1: you guys could have both easily been late teens or
Speaker 1: early twins, you know, like it could go either way.
Speaker 1: I didn't see like, oh my god, this young teenage
Speaker 1: girl and this older guy. It worked for me. I
Speaker 1: guess I just liked you guys, agreed liked them. I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't remember all the specifics of this episode, but
Speaker 1: I knew that Kelly and Jake had a thing, like
Speaker 1: I've remembered that for thirty years, you know, like they
Speaker 1: had a thing, and that was how. That was all
Speaker 1: I could remember how Melrose play started that somehow Kelly
Speaker 1: was involved in it. I had forgotten he knew Dylan.
Speaker 1: I guess he apparently knew Nat because they really bro hugs.
Speaker 1: I forgot that too. It was just always that, you know,
Speaker 1: Kelly dated Jake. It's agreed tory like that was. I
Speaker 1: had no idea that Dylan and Jake knew each other
Speaker 1: until I saw this. It was shocking to me. I
Speaker 1: thought he literally that you literally met Jake as the handyman.
Speaker 1: That was it, even though you were in the scene
Speaker 1: with him in the peach pit. I didn't remember it
Speaker 1: until I saw it, and then I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I vaguely remember now meeting a on set. Yeah, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a nice setup because you know, Kelly was
Speaker 1: so sort of like what's the word, sort of like
Speaker 1: pissy mad about the wedding, not super stoked. And then
Speaker 1: it all starts to sort of change, and I felt
Speaker 1: like the scenes, which we can break down, Kelly really
Speaker 1: brought her a game, like she knows how to flirt.
Speaker 1: She knows how to play with boys, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, yeah, she knew she was playing
Speaker 1: with fire, and she was. She was there for it
Speaker 1: totally exactly. Yes, I was impressed with her game honestly,
Speaker 1: Like she seems super calm, cool and collected about flirting
Speaker 1: with this much older guy, right, it was very lowly
Speaker 1: to ask. She just had a lot of game with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was very confident. I'm not talking about the lasagna
Speaker 1: that he got. I think she says smells great and
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm not talking about the lasagna or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's on so good, it's so true. And then he's
Speaker 1: like tough cookie, and she's like, do you really think
Speaker 1: I'm a tough cookie? Like the whole thing, it's just
Speaker 1: like these two are are good. I love it when
Speaker 1: when when they're having dinner and the doorbell rings and
Speaker 1: she's like, who coppy, And then she goes to the
Speaker 1: door and you can see the shadow of Steve Sanders
Speaker 1: in through the glass door, like the frosted glass door,
Speaker 1: and you can clearly tell that Steve Sanders by the
Speaker 1: poofy hair do. And then she's like, Steve, what are
Speaker 1: you doing here? Poor guy? He justst of all, I
Speaker 1: died because he goes I saw the light on. And
Speaker 1: what made me laugh is every exterior shot they show
Speaker 1: of your house in his pitch dark, there's no lights
Speaker 1: like lights on. So I literally kept noticed that, and
Speaker 1: then of course he was like light on. I felt
Speaker 1: so bad for him because he was being so sweet.
Speaker 1: He's still in love with you, and he came, but
Speaker 1: he drove through the neighborhood just to stop by. And
Speaker 1: then he references it later with Brandon. He says, you know,
Speaker 1: I go visit her all the time and she always
Speaker 1: lets me in, and then she didn't, and I feel
Speaker 1: so sad and so bad. And then would you say
Speaker 1: Kelly made the first move, like obviously the kiss was
Speaker 1: like happening with Jake, but I think you went for it,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, yes, I don't know who,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I maybe she heard the music
Speaker 1: cue and she knew that it was time to kiss,
Speaker 1: because the music clearly was like, oh, it's getting sexy,
Speaker 1: you know, don't ever do that voice a three part kiss.
Speaker 1: I think there was like a kiss then oh no,
Speaker 1: we've got to stop, then another kiss, Oh no, we
Speaker 1: gotta stop, and then another kiss. I was like, this
Speaker 1: is great, and then he went for the door with
Speaker 1: the abnormally high door hands. Another truth that when Kelly
Speaker 1: there's the close up on on Kelly, when she's talking
Speaker 1: to Steve at the door, I could tell that I
Speaker 1: had already done the makeout the end of that scene
Speaker 1: once or twice. I could just see, you know how
Speaker 1: when you kiss somebody, especially if you're wearing makeup and
Speaker 1: it rubs your makeup off and your face gets a
Speaker 1: little red. I could tell that we'd already made out
Speaker 1: a little bit a few times, like it was take
Speaker 1: three or something. Wait, I just had some flashback when
Speaker 1: you said that the sexy part. Wait was this true?
Speaker 1: Something about did his like um stubble irritate your face?
Speaker 1: Call anything it look like it. I don't know you're
Speaker 1: saying that. I remember, like in the next episode, because
Speaker 1: he had manly stubble and something. I feel like, not
Speaker 1: in a bad way, in a good way. But like
Speaker 1: then I remember they maybe you didn't say they makeup,
Speaker 1: said something like, oh, we gotta be careful that he
Speaker 1: shaves each scene because it's starting to irritate her face. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just a little newborn baby. Yeah, and she
Speaker 1: was dealing with a man he had strong with Can
Speaker 1: you remember he was a good yeah, yeah, definitely. You
Speaker 1: were so flippant about that, you just want Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I mean look at him. Of course he's a good guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's Their kisses were good. I feel like I'm wondering
Speaker 1: where they're gonna go, Like what's gonna I know, because
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, so obviously there's per two. Do
Speaker 1: you go on Melrose Place, Kelly, Yeah, she goes to
Speaker 1: see him and his at his place, I think, along
Speaker 1: Donna and David, but then she's alone with him as well. Yes,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, there's something like yeah, like because there's a
Speaker 1: new you then right in his apartment building and you
Speaker 1: get jealous. I think there's a lot more that happens. Yes,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, now we have to watch to watch that.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if we're going to have to do a
Speaker 1: special bonus episode of those first few Melrose places because
Speaker 1: we have to follow it. Where does it go? We
Speaker 1: have to? Oh god, I just looked so sex with it,
Speaker 1: like the as the carpenter guy. You know, he's building
Speaker 1: the thing and hand me the level and then you're
Speaker 1: like later a call back, You're like a level, Like really,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, remember the next it's the next episode, right,
Speaker 1: I'm blending them together. When we're all at the house
Speaker 1: and he's still building, is it the next stepod? I don't, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it must be the next time. I just remember us
Speaker 1: like inside, like looking and peeking around at him. And
Speaker 1: this episodes written particularly well, like the line still hold up,
Speaker 1: although speaking of the dinner that smells so good when
Speaker 1: when Kelly says I'm nuking some lasagna, because it's like,
Speaker 1: does anyone when you say microwaves I still say that,
Speaker 1: I say nuking things? Is that bad? I've never heard that.
Speaker 1: You've never heard that. I say, hey, nuke, nuke that,
Speaker 1: so it's warm, like, I don't know what. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's around anymore. It's not a it's not a
Speaker 1: nuclear device. It was. That was the thing that people
Speaker 1: said in like the late eighties and nineties when people
Speaker 1: are getting microwaves. Yeah, I thought I thought the microwave
Speaker 1: was powered by nuclear energy. Thank you. It was a
Speaker 1: thing like people would Definitely it was. When you said
Speaker 1: it in the episode, it brought me back. But I
Speaker 1: don't know that people say, well, I say it there.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Um? Wait? Can I
Speaker 1: ask you something? Um about your boom counting this episode?
Speaker 1: Because someone d m to me last week and said
Speaker 1: they love going on the ride with you and they
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that to please tell you that
Speaker 1: although you said last week you couldn't find any they
Speaker 1: found one. I love that the people are helping me out.
Speaker 1: Maybe sometimes when I don't watch it on the big TV,
Speaker 1: I can't see the boom. Last night I watched on
Speaker 1: the big TV. I saw that boom dippened twice like
Speaker 1: and there was one scene where it was like it
Speaker 1: was in what Jim and Cindy seem when it was
Speaker 1: like think think at first when you said boom count,
Speaker 1: I thought you said boom count, and I was like
Speaker 1: that you guys are doing we should do that any
Speaker 1: boob count. We should do a boob count for every episode.
Speaker 1: I'm looking back and maybe the reason I loved Kelly
Speaker 1: and Jake so much is that writing, like we didn't
Speaker 1: even talk about this part. You say something about it
Speaker 1: being the fourth marriage, but who's counting? And then he's like,
Speaker 1: I guess you are. Like the banter between the two
Speaker 1: of you was really solid, so I think the chemistry
Speaker 1: was clearly there. I love the kiss, but I think
Speaker 1: it was the sort of back and forth and then
Speaker 1: you say, well you can get personal if you want to,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like you just really
Speaker 1: had the a game. Yeah, that was fun to do
Speaker 1: those scenes, I remember because they were written in a
Speaker 1: way that was different than Kelly was normally written, and
Speaker 1: it sort of became the new consident Kelly and like
Speaker 1: what she sort of evolved into, Like because that confidence
Speaker 1: was key with Kelly, Like once you were able to
Speaker 1: see that, Like I think especially she knew she had
Speaker 1: to be confident with an older guy. You know. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think that you're really hitting on why this episode
Speaker 1: stands out so much to me and hopefully other fans,
Speaker 1: because it was this sort of hot Kelly, this like
Speaker 1: where she It really was your story too, as opposed
Speaker 1: to like with the others or something, or you know,
Speaker 1: or you seeming like, I don't know, just different scenes.
Speaker 1: It was really like, yes, confidence is the right word,
Speaker 1: and this seemed like it sets you on a new
Speaker 1: traj trajectory. I have a question you guys so far
Speaker 1: on the show, in these two seasons, who are guys
Speaker 1: that we have seen in Kelly's life that you'd be dating?
Speaker 1: Steve as the ax, which Kyle who's gay, a little
Speaker 1: flirty flirt flirt with the guy at the robus blast,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There's always sort of a
Speaker 1: little of this, THEBB, the cousin, Bobby in the wheelchair.
Speaker 1: So yeah, this vibe was like definitely a different male
Speaker 1: energy in Kelly's love life. And I'm there for it,
Speaker 1: and you're right, it's gonna dictate but future though it
Speaker 1: made Steve. I thought that was a really interesting scene
Speaker 1: because it made Steve sort of have this realization and
Speaker 1: then he goes to Brandon and they talk about it,
Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, like she has real feelings for her,
Speaker 1: which I don't know that I had felt so much
Speaker 1: of that before. Well will she had had him sooner too?
Speaker 1: Right now, Yeah, it was here and it was a
Speaker 1: little sprinkled in every now and then, but we always
Speaker 1: got the sense that they both knew it wasn't something
Speaker 1: that could go forward. And in this episode we clearly
Speaker 1: see that Kelly feels that way and he does. I
Speaker 1: felt Kelly felt a little bad, so there obviously was
Speaker 1: feelings there. I wonder what's going to happen at their
Speaker 1: wedding when Steve's there and Jake's there, So curious, juicy,
Speaker 1: did you think it was weird? But when Brenda left
Speaker 1: for sorry I'm going backwards, but that she kisses Brandon
Speaker 1: on the cheek, I'm going to ask you guys about this.
Speaker 1: You know what? I felt the same way? Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can almost good. By so long, it was so
Speaker 1: uncomfortable and I was like, this is when people started
Speaker 1: like talking like it's ancestral. It was weird. It's weird
Speaker 1: too much? You would you do that? You do that
Speaker 1: to your brother? Maybe? Now I gotta say I liked
Speaker 1: Brandon this episode. I did too, And I thought he
Speaker 1: looked amazing. He looked so cute when he had his
Speaker 1: little bed hair hair do. When he came in at
Speaker 1: five am to see Brenda, his face like a like
Speaker 1: at the table with Jim and Cindy, He's like, are
Speaker 1: you gonna allow her to do? Like you're gonna let
Speaker 1: the I like that kind of was like fired back.
Speaker 1: Usually he's just such the good guy and goes along
Speaker 1: with everything, and I thought the director must have intentionally
Speaker 1: made that choice. When Dylan and Brenda are asking for
Speaker 1: permission to go to Baja, and it's the two what
Speaker 1: I would call I don't know if I'm using TV lingo,
Speaker 1: but a two shot and then it's the three shot
Speaker 1: Jim Cindy and then and he kept going back and
Speaker 1: forth to that like Brad three he did he did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this episode was on fire. Do you think they did
Speaker 1: that too? Because this was such an important episode essentially
Speaker 1: like to your dad Tory, like he's launching another show
Speaker 1: in this episode, Like would there have been more money
Speaker 1: put into this episode because it's this I think more
Speaker 1: because it was the two personality than it being the
Speaker 1: launching pad. But that right, Yeah, probably that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Was there a different director for the last episode or
Speaker 1: they all both get filmed back to back. I don't know,
Speaker 1: because I feel like Bradley gross find directed the last episode.
Speaker 1: It's a different one, different one, I think. But you
Speaker 1: know the scene where the girls are trying on their dresses,
Speaker 1: I was thinking, they're holding those white bags and I
Speaker 1: was like, I know what's in those bags. The pink tool,
Speaker 1: the bow, the giant behind the head bow. Pretty iconic though.
Speaker 1: I did love how they shot, Like I feel like
Speaker 1: when they went on like a Tex Scout Tex Scout
Speaker 1: location scout that uh that they specifically were like, let's
Speaker 1: do that shot like her face specifically with you. It works,
Speaker 1: So it was funny. Yeah, I mean I thought this whole.
Speaker 1: I just love this episode. I think it's such an
Speaker 1: important episode, like to my heart, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because it's like so I also thought that and I
Speaker 1: have forgotten about this scene, the last scene where Kelly
Speaker 1: has gone from being a pill as her mom would
Speaker 1: call her, happy and feeling the baby kick and she's
Speaker 1: smiling and it's all Jake, we know, but I thought
Speaker 1: that that was important this wasn't a big episode for you,
Speaker 1: Jenny like you were. That's the power of love. Can
Speaker 1: just change your mood. When a hot carpenter falls for you,
Speaker 1: it makes you happy. What can I say? Carpenter in
Speaker 1: his twenties with a big lego to take a break
Speaker 1: and then go back to Brenda and Dylan because there's
Speaker 1: more for me to like. I gotta ask you a
Speaker 1: bunch of crap about that. Sorry, guys, okay, let's talk.
Speaker 1: You wanted to talk more about Brenda and sorry, you
Speaker 1: just love It's okay, Jake and Kelly. I don't really
Speaker 1: want to go back, but go ahead if you want to.
Speaker 1: But they were Brenda and Dylan were really cute dancing.
Speaker 1: See where he starts singing the song. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it was cute. Was that dancing their natural dancing? Or
Speaker 1: would that have been choreographed? Like what are we talking
Speaker 1: about here? That was just natural? He loved it. Twortal
Speaker 1: girls around and that was that. Those were his moves
Speaker 1: right there. You saw them all and he would do
Speaker 1: that with any of us. I sort of had their
Speaker 1: big old fight and then she's all mad at dinner
Speaker 1: and then she's like, I'm having a great joined my food,
Speaker 1: and then the guy comes over with the guitar and
Speaker 1: then it makes him laugh, which I felt was awkward,
Speaker 1: like the laughing felt a little forced, just gonna go
Speaker 1: on record, um. But then all of a sudden she
Speaker 1: switches gears to being happy against life, which is very
Speaker 1: Brenda emotional, roller coaster bipolar. I think it cut to
Speaker 1: the surfing, which apparently went well, and then immediately I
Speaker 1: knew something, Yeah, thank you, Tor, something is not gonna
Speaker 1: What do you mean, what do you mean? I thought
Speaker 1: the car would be stolen. I was. I couldn't remember,
Speaker 1: but I was like, is that car stolen? And then
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, she doesn't have her passport. You're right, Okay,
Speaker 1: now I know what you mean. Yeah, okay. They go
Speaker 1: to the border, and the remarkably kind border patrol man,
Speaker 1: so patient beyond I almost thought for a second he
Speaker 1: was gonna let them go. I did too. He seemed
Speaker 1: like the type of guy that would have let it go,
Speaker 1: but he could have lost his job. He had to
Speaker 1: stop them. I've never seen a nicer border patrol man
Speaker 1: in my life. And then that's sort of the Oh God,
Speaker 1: is she gonna have to call her parents or is
Speaker 1: this Brandon going to be able to bring on? This
Speaker 1: has to be someone that's right. He can't just bring
Speaker 1: her passport down. I guess I thought would take to
Speaker 1: three hours from Beverly Hills to San Diego. They are screwed?
Speaker 1: Did he do? Did a lot of the guy made
Speaker 1: it sound like at this point now that we're aware
Speaker 1: of it, apparently because now we're holding you. So that's
Speaker 1: the big that's going to happen in the next episode,
Speaker 1: as well as the wedding, right, yeah, the wedden's happening well,
Speaker 1: and the love and continues. Oh yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: see him drop that hammer. I did think Brandon was
Speaker 1: a little over the top with the lying, like he
Speaker 1: doesn't seem the lying type. And then he's just like
Speaker 1: really going above and so they're at the flea market
Speaker 1: and then which was a good call? Wait, did I
Speaker 1: miss something or he come up with that on his own?
Speaker 1: He came up with that. That's impressive because males, seventeen
Speaker 1: year old street males don't know about flea markets. I'm
Speaker 1: just lying. Yeah, hello, Donna Martin, you fully concocted the
Speaker 1: crazy schimeh thing like that was like I literally wrote
Speaker 1: down Donna Martin is so bad or she's a bad
Speaker 1: good girl. Wait, this is so weird. Do I not say, Oh,
Speaker 1: my cousin Marcy did it last summer? You say this?
Speaker 1: So this is really weird. I just put two and
Speaker 1: two together. So when I was young, I have I
Speaker 1: have a cousin, um, my mom's brother, my mom's brother's daughter, Meredith,
Speaker 1: and she's like an angel mom like great. But at
Speaker 1: the time, she was a few years older than me.
Speaker 1: And I remember, like basically at thirteen, I still thought
Speaker 1: the Easter Bunny existed. Don't judge me, there's no problem
Speaker 1: with them, okay. And she's the one she slept over
Speaker 1: the night before Easter, and she was like two years older.
Speaker 1: And she's like, by the way, the Eastern brain doesn't exist,
Speaker 1: Santa doesn't exist. And I was like two threes, like no,
Speaker 1: I was like my life. Yeah, So they when I
Speaker 1: told my parents, they were always like, she's the older
Speaker 1: like not bad cousin, but like she And now she's
Speaker 1: like my mom likes her better than me, so it's fine,
Speaker 1: but she she she's so nice. We recently just got
Speaker 1: back in touch. We found each other through social media.
Speaker 1: We'd like lost touch all these years and her and
Speaker 1: my mom. Yeah, she's she's like a two years older.
Speaker 1: I love that. And can you guys hang now? We
Speaker 1: have to? Yeah, like you're compatible, Like you can you
Speaker 1: can hang with her? I would like to. It's so cool.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I wonder if that's why they wrote in
Speaker 1: like my bad cousin Marcy. Sure. There's a million different
Speaker 1: things where art imitates life imitates. Are with it with
Speaker 1: you guys? And this show I want to make. She's
Speaker 1: like a really great person, but she's a bad girl.
Speaker 1: She was like two years older and just like instigating,
Speaker 1: like you know, we were young. Um. But Donna's outfit
Speaker 1: in that scene, which one it was like it had
Speaker 1: some flowers on it or daisies. It was jacket, the
Speaker 1: jean jacket and jean shorts both with the days, but
Speaker 1: white white was something very good. I felt like that
Speaker 1: was iconic and that never like made it made you
Speaker 1: think that should have made a bigger like that I
Speaker 1: do it didn't it. I don't think we talked about
Speaker 1: Donna's hair too. So for me, Donna's hair was so
Speaker 1: iconic at this time because it was the sort of
Speaker 1: blown poved pulled back in the clip and I think
Speaker 1: we all tried that. We were all like, can I
Speaker 1: get that? To do that? Like that's when I had
Speaker 1: really thick hair before that hair had so much body.
Speaker 1: If you're young, never put in extensions. It just ruins
Speaker 1: your hair. Just that hair was starting. You can't go back.
Speaker 1: It's true. Why don't we talk about Okay? So we
Speaker 1: started talking about fashion a little bit with your sunflower
Speaker 1: a little setup, which was super cute. Did you ever
Speaker 1: have any other fashion I liked? Of course Jim in
Speaker 1: his robe. You like the under that rope. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm scared of what's under there. I
Speaker 1: feel like he needs a new robe because we just
Speaker 1: see this robe so much. But I have a robe
Speaker 1: I where all the time, Like it's a consistent robe.
Speaker 1: I like it. Did you did you like Dylan's Baja
Speaker 1: shirt at all? It was very on the nose, like
Speaker 1: I'm going on a trip to bab In this is
Speaker 1: the shirt I have to wear for me. I just
Speaker 1: always say, poor Cindy, like her shirts are just horrendous.
Speaker 1: It was so you're starting to get a little momish,
Speaker 1: like it was longer in the first season. Who was
Speaker 1: the hairstylist. That must have been doing well, and I think, well,
Speaker 1: I was trying it. There's a funny story about one
Speaker 1: of our hair styles. I was thinking about this the
Speaker 1: other day when I was blow drying my daughter's hair
Speaker 1: with a round brush. I was like, please, God, don't
Speaker 1: let me get this round brush stuck in her hair
Speaker 1: the way Walt got the round brush stuck in And
Speaker 1: then I was like, was it my hair or was
Speaker 1: it your hair? Who was here? Did he? We had
Speaker 1: to basically cut the hair. I feel like it was
Speaker 1: your hair. It was. It would have to be, because
Speaker 1: you'd have to use such a round brush to get that.
Speaker 1: Don't you feel like he never did my hair and
Speaker 1: the one time he did my hair got a stuck
Speaker 1: And of course I'm the nice one, so I probably
Speaker 1: said nothing and you panicked. You had a full blown
Speaker 1: panic attack, and he was panicking, sweating, and people were
Speaker 1: gathering around the chair like trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: to get it out. Walt White, Frank Well, Teddy White,
Speaker 1: Waltz so in the early nineties, a lot of like
Speaker 1: the makeup department. I think we've talked about this. We're
Speaker 1: straight men, straight older men, which is the way they
Speaker 1: were trained very like technique. It wasn't glam makeup like
Speaker 1: just very different. Um. And it wasn't a women's world basically.
Speaker 1: And there weren't a lot of gay men in the
Speaker 1: industry either. And we had this hairstylist, Waltz that appeared
Speaker 1: to be very flamboyant but had a wife. Mm hmm, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I loved it. Now I don't think, well it's still alive.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't know. I don't know. He was
Speaker 1: very old then, he was he was he I remember
Speaker 1: he had fake hips and he couldn't. When you think
Speaker 1: of bird Cage and Robin Williams character, think of Walt's
Speaker 1: walty Oh, we loved him. There's a new movie. I,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this will remind you a fault when
Speaker 1: there's a movie called Swansong. We've Swanson expressing but very
Speaker 1: good about this, like amazing hairstylist. And now he's like
Speaker 1: in a retirement home, but he goes back for one
Speaker 1: last but it's it's really really good expressing. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: that's the fashion. Let's talk the best line. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have one little fashion book. Sorry sorry, Grant show
Speaker 1: with the perfect black shirt. Would I believe the sleeve
Speaker 1: rolled just one maybe the T shirt might need assume it.
Speaker 1: And I tried to do it last night. I think
Speaker 1: it just had a slight roll and he looked excellent.
Speaker 1: You tried to do it last night, I literally because
Speaker 1: I was watching on my iPad. I'm doing this movie
Speaker 1: trying to make trying to make it bigger. But Brandon
Speaker 1: always had his T shirts rolled, his sleeves, his white
Speaker 1: T shirt, he any T shirt he wore it was rolled.
Speaker 1: That was sort of a nine O two one oh started. Really,
Speaker 1: I think. Didn't the boys off camera put their cigarette
Speaker 1: that was earlier Greece? Yeah, sorry, it's like Greece, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I I believe. I mean this was what
Speaker 1: I think is that nine O two one oh started
Speaker 1: that trend. He also had his jeans rolled up with
Speaker 1: his little combat boots or no motorcycle boots, so his
Speaker 1: jeans were cuffed, which was you didn't have Did Brandon
Speaker 1: do that too? Maybe he did, I don't know it was.
Speaker 1: I don't know. No, I'm not sure it was a
Speaker 1: good look at Yeah, but it's gonna be interesting to
Speaker 1: see the evolution of Jake Hampson because this Jake Hampson
Speaker 1: is not totally how I remember the Melrose Place, Jake Hampson,
Speaker 1: the character definitely like evolves. What about your favorite line
Speaker 1: from the episode. You've quoted so many already, You're like, A,
Speaker 1: you have a photo of sing. I really have to
Speaker 1: say my favorite line. Even though I said it is
Speaker 1: a little placed, soft mel nothing special, it's like I
Speaker 1: just I melted. I was like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: a good one. Although Melrose Place, we'll get into it.
Speaker 1: But like when we do our bonuses, because oh, I
Speaker 1: guess I'm inviting myself. You have to. Season one of
Speaker 1: Melrose is very different than season two. Remember, like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to bore people, but they blew up part
Speaker 1: of the cast. They started with a different cast and
Speaker 1: became the Melrose cast. Anyway, I had some lines I
Speaker 1: did not write it down and they're not part of this,
Speaker 1: but it was no I had to. I'll go twice. Then.
Speaker 1: One of mine was from Steve Sanders in the Peach
Speaker 1: Bit and he says, yeah, weddings are a great place
Speaker 1: to meet. Girls are always so ripe and misty eyed. Right, Jenny,
Speaker 1: I love you. I wrote that down. And the other
Speaker 1: one was from Kelly and we talked about this already.
Speaker 1: You know it's okay. You can get personal if you
Speaker 1: want to. Yeah. I could write the entirere scene of
Speaker 1: Kelly and Jake's banter as favorite because it was just
Speaker 1: smells good. I'm not talking about that. We so like,
Speaker 1: it's just a whole next week we should do a
Speaker 1: scene from the show and re enacted. It would be
Speaker 1: so good. And Amy, yeah, Amy, you play Jake. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll just pop in. You play Jake, and obviously you'll
Speaker 1: play Kelly. Why can't you play Kelly And I'll be
Speaker 1: the director. I'll be like and action. Okay, oh my god,
Speaker 1: we have to not talk. I'm not talking about the lasagna.
Speaker 1: Like God, the writing, God bless you, Darren Starr. Home Run, Sir,
Speaker 1: home Run. Well, jeez, we have really taken a bite
Speaker 1: out of that episode. I feel like we got into it.
Speaker 1: I have like six pages I never got through. It's fun.
Speaker 1: We'll do another episode just for you, like seriously, so
Speaker 1: much so. I never have been got to where I
Speaker 1: I talked about a little bit about Brandon and is lying,
Speaker 1: and I wrote, shut how fool like he was? Just wait?
Speaker 1: I want to you know what I want to do
Speaker 1: I actually want to watch the episode with you, and
Speaker 1: here you're talking about it would be so fun. Well,
Speaker 1: I do a lot, do you guys? Just watch it
Speaker 1: straight through? I do a lot of rewind Gotta watch
Speaker 1: that scene again, Gotta watch that cost it a lot? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so much. Anyway, okay, people episode uh which is the
Speaker 1: season two finale? That's your episode for next week, wedding
Speaker 1: bill Blues. It's major you, guys, I can't believe it's
Speaker 1: hard at the end to watch season finale with us.
Speaker 1: Good job, this wasn't such a good episode because Kelly
Speaker 1: was just a little saucy gal and Donna is so bad. Well,
Speaker 1: now she's from a broken home because her parents are
Speaker 1: splitting up. Actually we didn't know. I know, we have
Speaker 1: to go, but we didn't even get to talk about
Speaker 1: the cute scenes with Kelly's mom and David's dad and
Speaker 1: you and David and opening up and my mom's not coming,
Speaker 1: if my dad's coming, my dad's coming, my mom's you
Speaker 1: know that. It was a great episode for both of you.
Speaker 1: That was fun. It was a fun episode. I love it.
Speaker 1: And next week, sisters back. She'll be back for our
Speaker 1: season finale and you'll be our special guest star and
Speaker 1: it's it's big, it's major, it's our season finale next week.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. This was like a really special episode,
Speaker 1: so I really appreciate it because it's like you guys
Speaker 1: are so I know, I have to sip it because
Speaker 1: I get too like excited, like I'm just too many
Speaker 1: questions like excitability. This is like major, This is one
Speaker 1: to me, and I know two one oh just was
Speaker 1: hitting its full stride like it was just fire, fire, fire,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like this was the time.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see that light. Everybody have a
Speaker 1: good week and we will talk to you next week. Bye.