1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: This is the Bloomberg Business of Sports show. We explore 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: the big money issues in the world of sports on 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Michael Blarn I'm Scarlett Foe and I'm Damien Sassaur. Twenty 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: two MLB playoffs are underway, and boy, there is a 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: buzz of excitement surrounding this year's postseason. Major League Baseball 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: unveiled its newest playoff format, with now twelve teams entering 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: the Fray and expansion to four best of three wild 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: Card series and the race to crown the next World 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: Series champion leading into November. Yeah, if it takes place 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: in New York, it's going to be a cold, cold series. 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: And of course, the postseason format not the only big 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: changes that the MLB have implemented recently. Just a few 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: months ago, Commissioner Rob Manfred announced new rule changes for 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: three We're talking a pitch timer, limits on defensive shifts, 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: and even bigger basis to name just a few. Here's 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: the Commissioner, Rob Manfred. We've conducted thorow an ongoing research 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: with our fan and certain things are really clear. Number One, 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: fans want games with better pace. Two fans want more action, 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: more balls in play, and three fans want to see 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 1: more of the athleticism of our great players. The rule 21 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: changes were announcing today have been thoroughly tested and refined 22 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: for years in the minor leagues. As usual, Scarlett on point, 23 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: and luckily for us, we are joined by someone who 24 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: really knows the game of baseball as both player and 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: analysts for the MLB Network, someone who can really help 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: break down everything MLB and we welcome to the Bloomberg 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: Business of Sports show our good friend Harold Reynolds. Welcome back, sir, 28 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: to the Bloomberg Business of Sports Man. I appreciate everybody 29 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: times to having me on. You know, I really appreciate 30 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: Commission Manford not mentioning my name. He just said, Fani 31 00:01:54,800 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: action an athlete. Well, let me ask you, how do 32 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: you what do you think about? You know, all of 33 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: those things that Manfred said, it's can you can you 34 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: break it down for us? Yeah? I think it's important. 35 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: You know, if our games one have been dragging, and 36 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: it's one thing to watch a long game, it's another 37 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: one when there's not action and there was at one 38 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: point in time the ball not being in play. And 39 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: I don't mean like a pitch ball, I mean not 40 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: hit or somebody's filing it running after or something was 41 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: four minutes and twenty six seconds. So you're talking about 42 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: ball one, ball two, strike one, strike two. It was 43 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: never in play. And then with the shift rules and 44 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: everything else, with the shift defensively, uh, it works, guys 45 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: are hitting the ball right into the shift. Then there 46 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: was no action. So really to implement these rules, it 47 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: just had to pick up. We had some pictures that 48 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: were taking fifty seconds in between throwing a pitch. You know, 49 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: they're looking at Michael sign and nuh, I don't know, Michael, 50 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: come on that scarlet. Can you give me a better sign? Okay, 51 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: what pitch should I throw? Then? And what I mean, 52 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: that's what happened, and we never got the ball in place. 53 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: So that's why we had to implement the rules and 54 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: and really get this gone. And then the last part, 55 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: you know, I really got a tremendous group of athletes. Now, 56 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: just like all the other sports, just generationally the bigger, stronger, faster, 57 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: and it wasn't being highlighted in our sports. So I 58 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: think all this needed to happen. Yeah, all that what 59 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: you just described contributed to this feeling or this sense 60 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: that baseball is boring certainly compared to football, where anything 61 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: could happen on any given Sunday, the stakes are really 62 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: high because there aren't that many games. Has Baseball just 63 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: complicated things by making the season even longer and and 64 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, rather than giving you the highlights, MLB 65 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: has just dragged it out for longer and added more 66 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: volume to it. Well, yeah, I mean we've been playing 67 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: along seasons for a long time. But it's perception, right, 68 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, it seems like as on forever. The 69 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: other thing I like is not in the rule changes 70 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: as much, but the new playoff format because you added 71 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: more teams like you're talking about before. But the biggest 72 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: thing was by June or July. And let's go to 73 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: you a long season, Scarlett. By June or July, we're 74 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: heading to the eighty some games and you already know 75 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: what teams are gonna be in the playoffs. And this 76 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: takes more cities involved, more teams involved, and and wanting 77 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: to hang on the players, not as much movement. So 78 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: I think that's why it was more competitive down the 79 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: stretch as well. So all these things had the factor 80 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: and the change in the sport. So Harold, I mean 81 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: let's let's let's break it down here. You're at All Star, 82 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: you were three time Gold Glove winner. You're the only 83 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: player outside of Ricky Henderson to lead the American League 84 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: and stolen stolen basis during the I understand the elimination 85 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: of the defensive shift. I understand the pitch clock. Talk 86 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: to me about the size of the basis. What a 87 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: bigger base is going to do? What does that mean? 88 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: I mean? Is that just you know, you know, is 89 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: that just mean that you know it's gonna be easier 90 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: for you to steal basis? Well, that's what the incouragement is. Um, 91 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: you know, three inches and you know baseball is a 92 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: game of inches. So they they played it and tested 93 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: it in over eight thousand minor league games. Okay, all 94 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: these rules have been tested, the shift rule, the pitch clocks, 95 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: and then also the basis, and they walked away feeling 96 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: like it was more of a safety measure than necessarily 97 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: the three inches closer to another base where first basement 98 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: weren't up the line getting hit quite as much and 99 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: things like that. So that was kind of the thought 100 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: behind it. I reacted the same way you did, DAM mean, 101 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: at first, like basis make no sense, you know, But 102 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: except they can put sponsorship on the basis the bigger basis, right, Hey, 103 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: they can do a lot of things. Now you can 104 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: really mark it. I mean, hopefully we don't turn in 105 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: the NASCAR with stickers all over the players. But if 106 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: it helps get engaged in the game, then what do it. 107 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: But that was kind of the thought behind the basis. 108 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: And and one little caveat that goes with that is 109 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: the the pickoff rules pictures. Now with a runner on, 110 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: you can say you're on first base. You can only 111 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: throw over twice. And if I go making the third 112 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: attempt to throw at the first base, I either have 113 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: to pick that player off or I lose a strike. 114 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: All right, it becomes a ball or a box. So 115 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: so they're really encouraging and forcing action. And that's what 116 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: these rules are for. And I'll leave it with this, 117 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: and I'll let you guys come back with another question 118 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: on all the rules. Everything will be looked at and 119 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: adjusted along the way. But they got just getting it 120 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: on the books and getting guys moving towards these things. Uh, 121 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: it's where we need to be. And then we'll make 122 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: a justice on what flies or whatnot. Maybe the basis 123 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: need to be then it's is big. But they they're 124 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: gonna make a justice along the way though, Well you 125 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: know what happens when you mix acids and basis. Okay, 126 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I gotta ask you about um Aaron Judge 127 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: and the home run chase. We were talking about it 128 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: for weeks, of course ste sixty two and it was 129 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: always Aaron Judge and Roger Marris's record. But Barry Bonds 130 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: did hit a bunch of home runs to somewhere in 131 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: the seventies. Does that not count anymore? I mean, it 132 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: is definitely in the record books. Um We had the 133 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: same discussion on our show and um My host Greg 134 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: am Singer was like, no, no, this is the record. 135 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: He was clean, Aaron does the new King of home 136 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: Runs at sixty two, and I said, I can't deny 137 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: what I saw. I watched Sammy, so said Mark McGuire, 138 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: and go back and forth. I watched Barry Bonds. So 139 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: it's a real difficult one. Do you throw an astick 140 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: in there? None of those guys tested positive for steroids, 141 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: even though we've had some missions and we can all 142 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: come to their own conclusion that it's probably leaning more 143 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: towards steroid use than not. But it just comes down 144 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: really to um preference. I think Roger Morris's son had 145 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: said it the way he felt that this is now 146 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: the new home runking. So I think everybody's open to 147 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: their own interpretation. I think it's a challenge for everybody 148 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: to figure it out. But I do think that, um, 149 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: it's kind of our duty, uh, and as historians of 150 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: the sport to tell the story two kids that come along, 151 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: and I got my son and his friends going, well, 152 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: hold of it. Why are we making a big deal 153 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: at sixty two? I thought very bonds at seventy something, 154 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: And I have to explain that to them, what what 155 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: what happened? So that's kind of how I deal with it. Um, 156 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm not going to not recognize what I witnessed, but 157 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: I do want to try to explain a little more 158 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: clarity to those that are asking. Now. I gotta play 159 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: Devil's advocate because and I can't be a hypocrite. I 160 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: remember when Sosa and McGuire were going at it, and 161 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: I was right there, glued to the television set, and yeah, 162 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: I noticed when I saw Mark McGuire when he first 163 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: started in the league, and then when I saw him 164 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: going for the big home run chase that you know, everything, 165 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: the arms blew up and all the other stuff and everything. 166 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: But you know, and I can't deny that. I enjoyed 167 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: watching that. I enjoyed watching Barry Bonds. I was good 168 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: for the game. It was. I was at the old 169 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: pack Bell Park when he knocked too in the drink 170 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: and and I and I'm like, oh Lord, look at that, 171 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: and and everybody out there in the drink, you know, 172 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: in their paddle bolts trying to get the ball and everything. 173 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: It was exciting to watch Harold, no doubt about it. 174 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I can't I can't deny it. 175 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: I saw the excitement too. I remember when McGuire was 176 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: going for sixty two. I was on the freeway and 177 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: I pulled off to listen to the game on the radio, 178 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: and I went into a Bennigan's restaurant. I got there 179 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: just in time him to be walking to the plate 180 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: and then boom he hit it, and everybody in the 181 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: whole restaurant was screaming, include myself, gold big man. You know, yeah, 182 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: it was exciting for the sport. When him in Socier 183 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: went back and forth. You turned the TV on every 184 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: day to see who was gonna hit one? Can't Sammy 185 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: catch him? And need pass him? And oh I want 186 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: McGuire to win this thing. No, Sammy, it was. It 187 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: was great. It was really exciting and fun to watch 188 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: with Captain. Now, am I gonna lie? I am the 189 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: native Detroitter. So my first love the Tigers, but I'm 190 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: gonna adopt it son of New York. Next it's the Mets. 191 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna lie. When I saw a recent 192 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live Colin Jost, he says, and they lit 193 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: up the Empire State Building blue and white for Aaron 194 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: Judge hitting sixty two, And the next shot you see 195 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: is an outhouse in flames. And meanwhile the Mets fans 196 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: are showing their season up in flames. And I'm like, man, 197 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: but it was funny. I'm not gonna lie. What happened, Harold? 198 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: What happened to the season? How much time do we 199 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: have at the end of the day. Um, they're they're 200 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: big performers, just didn't perform at the end in the postseason, 201 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: you know. Um, down the stretch they got a little tired. 202 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: I think a little fatigued. They did have some major injuries. 203 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean shers Are and de Gram fought through injuries 204 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: and it just showed up in max shrs in the playoffs. 205 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: He just was never over the injury he had early 206 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: in the season. He just never got healthy and that 207 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: that was it. I mean, you're banking on shers and 208 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: de Gram being able to pull a Randy Johnson in 209 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: the Church shilling for you and win a World Series 210 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: like happened in Arizona, and just without those two lead 211 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: dogs leading the way, Um, that was gonna be problematic 212 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: for the Mets. And that's really what happened. Okay, but 213 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: what does it say? What does the Mets season collapse 214 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: say about Steve Cohen, the owner of the Mets, and 215 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: his strategy in uh putting together a winning team basically spending, spending, spending. Well, 216 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: I don't think he's spent. Yeah, you know, he's only 217 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: had it like one year. Really, he hasn't had a 218 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: chance to really dive into the spending. And I think 219 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: now he's got the manager he wants in Bucks Show Walter. 220 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: He's happy to spend to drop Robinson Cano. Yeah. I 221 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: still okay, I get you, I get you. I won't 222 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: I won't push back on that, but I still think 223 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: this winter will be the real truth of Steve Cohen spending. 224 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: There's some huge free agents out there. Aaron Judge on 225 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: his own team, He's got He's got Da Graham's gonna 226 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: be a free agent, He's got Demo. It's gonna be 227 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: real interesting this winner how the Mets kind of dive 228 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: in and really see the dynamic. You've got Carlos Correa 229 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: out there. You're gonna have trade turners of free agent 230 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: and something, some big names out there that can really 231 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: impact the team. And we'll see what happens. And and 232 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: if he really dies into spending, which I think you will. Well, 233 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: you make a great point. I mean, the free agent 234 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: market is going to be red hot this year, and 235 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned a few of the names. I mean, who's 236 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: the best fit for the Mets. Let's just seem for 237 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: one second. You you mentioned to Graham, Nemo Diaz, and 238 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: obviously Chris Passet, they're all gonna be free agents. I mean, 239 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: I think it a focus on the pitching staff. I mean, 240 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: my goodness, they could use some bats there. I mean, 241 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: what do you think the focus should be for Stevie Cohen? Well, 242 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: I think they definitely need some offense. Um, if you 243 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: got a center and still on your pitching, everybody does. 244 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: But I think there's there's different ways now to increase 245 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: step pitching, whether stupid bullpen or whatnot. They didn't have 246 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: a left hand or out of the pen that really 247 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: was that dominant lefty. They need that happening. And then 248 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: your your own closer with the Trump he's a free agent, 249 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, so you got to bring dis back. But 250 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: back to the point again, I really think this is 251 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting year for all the owners in 252 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: baseball because remember last year started off is a lockout. 253 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,239 Speaker 1: That's why we're playing the World Series in the November. 254 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: And you know when we're locked out, you can't talk 255 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: to free agents and you can't negotiate with anybody until 256 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: February March April, you know, And now you can start 257 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: talking to free agents. That's not really a true winter. 258 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: Now you got a full winter that you've got a 259 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: chance to really dive in, recruit, talk to guys, and 260 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: spend money. So I think the free agent market's going 261 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: to be But Nana is this this offseason? Well, if 262 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: you want to watch the Flamings that there are many 263 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: ways to watch it on TV. You can watch it 264 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: on cable, you can watch it streaming, which brings me 265 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: to the point. Streaming is taking over the left and right, 266 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: and I wonder, now, where's the ceiling for that, because 267 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: there's more money involved in trying to get the rights 268 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: MLB rights, the broadcast that on streaming, HEROLD what what's 269 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: the deal? Well, content is king and you're absolutely right, 270 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: and that is the one advantage I think do have 271 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: over the other major sports is you do have a 272 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: hundred sixty two games schedule, and that gives you about 273 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: eight or nine months of solid content, including spring training. 274 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: So I think we're in the new world. The Newton 275 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: Frontier is starting to see it more. Obviously, Apple did 276 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: a big deal Major League Baseball and they had games. 277 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: We've had YouTube games in the past. Peacock has done 278 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: something with us. I just think the streaming is going 279 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: to get more and more competitive and more and more open. 280 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: And then we've got thirty Major League teams that want 281 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: to do their own thing as well. So the platforms 282 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: are changing, uh, and content is king in And what 283 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: I mean by that is people love live content and 284 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: we can provide a lot of it in baseball, and 285 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: we are back more with Harold Reynolds on the MLB 286 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: Network throughout the postseason, as MLB Network is airing live 287 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: coverage before and after every game. MLB Network is also 288 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: airing the A l DS and A LCS in Spanish 289 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: this post season, which brings me to the point. Every 290 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: time I'm watching you guys, I got my pencil and 291 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: I got my paper and I'm trying to set the 292 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: odds up and everybody knows where I'm going with this scarlet. 293 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: Scarlett's got that look like you degenerate park? What do 294 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: you think of gambling? Uh? In baseball? I know it's 295 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: it sounds like a tired subject, but it's still going. 296 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: It's big, it's huge. More states are coming on in 297 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: game action of betting it it is. It's here to stay. Oh, 298 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: it's here to stay. Uh, you know, and it's right 299 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: on the same lines of fantasy. You know. I think 300 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: fantasy really propelled football and everything else. And it's not 301 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: even really as much about watching the games. It's about 302 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: following players. But I think baseball Canada conclusion of it's 303 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: involving the fans so much that you have to open 304 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: the doors to it, So that's why he starts seeing 305 00:16:55,280 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: a lot more. I'm surprised from generation where I've played 306 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: with with the gambling and different things that went on 307 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: with the the scrutiny we had to go through after 308 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: Pete Rose, you know. So it's kind of it's shocked 309 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: to my system, so to speak. Right, Yeah, belie what 310 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: you know. But I see it now and I understand 311 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: it angle with fan involvement and it really is an 312 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: engagement for fans and it's helped the sport grow with 313 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: with people following it. So, um, I think that's where 314 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: they kind of had to side with, Okay, here's here's 315 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: what's going on. We have to hop in and and 316 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: get involved with it. It seems like that's the same 317 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: with our country. Who would have thought that we're gonna 318 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: have casinos all over the place and you're going up 319 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: and we do now. Yeah, there's an argument to be 320 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: made though that I mean, and I get with legalized 321 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: sports betting that you're going to have a lot of 322 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: analytics and data so that people can look through them 323 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: and and uh figure out how to quantify their bets. 324 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: But at the same time, with the explosion of statistics 325 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: and analytics, We've seen other sports like football, basketball get 326 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: more exciting, but there's an argument that the explosion of 327 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: analytics and statistics have kind of ruined baseball. It's made 328 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: the game more boring. Baseball was already very numbers heavy, 329 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: very math heavy, but everything's done based on numbers in 330 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: a way that the game is less exciting, even though 331 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: it might get a more optimized result. If you're just 332 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: looking for for wins, well you're you're dead on scarlet. 333 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: I think that's why we had to implement the rule changes. 334 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: We're seeing the game slowed down and it sounds like 335 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, it's low down. It absolutely did blame 336 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: analytics and starts for that. Well, I really do. I think, um, 337 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: we've quantified when you look at the shift rule. Okay, 338 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: the increase of shifts with the defensive shifts where we're 339 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: playing three or four defenders on one side to come 340 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: up with the best plausible way to now and then 341 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: we're telling hitters don't hit the ball the other way, 342 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: mad and average doesn't matter. We want you to hit 343 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: home runs. So if you got hit runs, you're probably 344 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: gonna pull the ball. So then that's all the ners 345 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: on one side of the field and guys are hitting 346 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: the ball into the shift instead of a way, and 347 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: as a result, there was no base runners. That run 348 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: scoring went down. The batting average for the first time 349 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: is the lowest since they lowered the mount in. The 350 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: on base percentage is the same, it's lowest since those times. 351 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: So there had to be a way to increase accent. 352 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: And I do believe that analytically, it's proven number wise 353 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: and everything else that yes, we we slowed the game 354 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: down because of the efficiency of the defense and being 355 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: able to implement the numbers. Harold Billy Bean's not here 356 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: to defend himself. Let's stop knocking on. Let's get back 357 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: to sports betting odd So listen, the Dodgers are the 358 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: favorite to win the World Series of plus two hundred. 359 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: Here you got Houston, you got the Yankees. Look at 360 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: the Phillies climbing up the boards after that big win 361 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: a and the Braves sinking down. I mean, who do 362 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: you like here as we head to the World Series? 363 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: Do you think the favorite is? In your mind? I'm 364 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: gonna stick to what I went in. I still believe 365 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: the Braves and the Astuals are the two teams to beat. 366 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: I just feel like the Braves are too complete. Now, 367 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: could the Phillies, you know, they're pulling upset here, Absolutely 368 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: they could. But I still think even though they won 369 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: Game one, the k not out of the woods. Yet 370 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: I just think they're the deepest club. The Astros. You know, 371 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: Verlander didn't throw well, yet the Astros were able to 372 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: win a game and now they continue to go through 373 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: So I think they're they're Those are the two teams 374 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: I think are the most difficult to beat night in, 375 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: night out in baseball. I'm want to talk about that 376 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: because obviously, you you spent twelve years in uh in 377 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: the majors, tend with the Mariners. I know we've talked 378 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: about a lot of changes with the you know everything, 379 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: pitch clocked this and that, whatever. But in your era, 380 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: what has changed compared to what you're seeing now. Well, 381 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: I think one the thought of getting a hit, you 382 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: hit it where they ain't, so to speak. They used 383 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: been a big slogan, right, that doesn't factor in in 384 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: the thinking of a lot of hitters today. They're trying 385 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: to hit it through them or hit it over them 386 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: instead of hitting where they're not. The stolen base, I mean, 387 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: that was one thing that was just you know, I'll 388 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: tell you guys a quick story. Uh. I think Damn 389 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: brought this up earlier. I wanted the stolen base title 390 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: in seven. I was the only guy in the decade 391 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: that one outside of Ricky Henderson. Ricky was averaging like 392 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: a hundred steals a year, and in the eighties seven 393 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: he got injured about May and he already had thirty 394 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: stolen bases. And so the last day of the season, 395 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: that comes down to me and Willie Wilson of the 396 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: Kansas City roy we both have fifty nine. I still 397 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: a base. I win the title over We're not in 398 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I get home the next day and Seattle 399 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: my phone rings because we were down in Texas. And 400 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: I get back home to Seattle phone rings and it's 401 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: Ricky Henderson. Ricky, he always talks to me the third person. 402 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: He say, Hey, playing cards with him, and go Ricky 403 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: got a sweet hand, rick get ready, Yeah, that's how 404 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: you talk. So I answered the phone. Hello, he says, 405 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: Henderson here today, what about rick not freaking congratulate me? Right? 406 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: And he goes, sixty stolen bases? You ought to be 407 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: a shame at the All Star break click and hug, 408 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: you hung up on Ricky. No, he hung up on 409 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: me that a statement sixty stole basically ought to be 410 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: a shame. Click hung up. And so you were asking, 411 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: what's the difference. I think Ricky's pulled his hair out 412 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: right now seeing guys still in thirty and forty bases 413 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: of season, and he would have that before the All 414 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: Star break, he'd have thirty or forty stone basis. So 415 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: that brought that story, and I figured to be entertained. 416 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: Knew you might enjoy that. I have to say, watching 417 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: someone seal base, it adds that element of spontaneity, right, 418 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: there's a it's a mini drama within the bigger drama 419 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: of the game itself. I remember as a Tigers fan 420 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: Cecil Fielder stole a base and we lost our minds. No, 421 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: it's the first basement, and you talk about a big dude, 422 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, how do yous? Yeah? You need you need 423 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: bigger basis man, Harold Reynolds, Man, you are you are 424 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: the man, and I am so glad that you came 425 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: back to join us. Man as old friend of the show. 426 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: Harold Reynolds. You can watch him on the MLB Network 427 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: throughout the postseason. You're so kind to join us. Thank 428 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: you for joining us right here on the Bloomberg Business 429 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: of Sports. Appreciate it. Enjoying the run and we'll see 430 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: who ends it at the end. I'll talk to yourself. 431 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: Thank you. Take care of Harold reynolds Man. You always 432 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: enjoy talking with him. I especially when he compares the 433 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: differences between when he played and the game today. And 434 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: and he's right. I enjoyed watching the stolen Basis. It's 435 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: that was a fun part of the game when I 436 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: was much younger and didn't have as much gray in 437 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: my hair. It was exciting also to see Ricky Henderson 438 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: and whether he was going to, uh, you know, curl 439 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: his fingers up into a ball like those They're little tells. 440 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: Not that I'm a Ricky Henderson expert, but you just 441 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: knew that something was going to happen one way or another, 442 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: and it added this element of unexpected spotandy to a 443 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: game that has so few moments of spotaneity. Now leave 444 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: it to Michael bart to somehow we're talking about stolen 445 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: Basis and somehow he brings Detroit Tiger's first baseman, Cecil 446 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: Fielder's conversation. I mean cecil I don't think. I mean, 447 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: I mean, at least him get up the line more 448 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: for first and a second when he stole it, he 449 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: stole it or he walked over and that was probably 450 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: me trying to throw him out at second. That was 451 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: but I'll never forget that. I was like, that was 452 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: really cool man. This is the Bloomberg Business of Sports 453 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: podcast on Michael barr Or with Scarlet Fu and Damian 454 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: sass Hour. Catch us here each and every Monday, Wednesday 455 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: and Thursday exploring the world of money in sports, and 456 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: catch me on Twitter at Big Bar Sports. 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