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Speaker 3: I have a pinstripe suit on that is Jason Gibbs Gibbe.

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Speaker 4: so like baby steps here, baby steps now. It will

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Speaker 3: But you know, it is what it is. As we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, Carson, Thanks for taking the time that. Congratulations.

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Speaker 3: Thank you the great Carson Swessinger. Thank him for joining

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Speaker 3: No, man, were those were those just fakes? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: David knew that this was probably the end. Wyatt Teller

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Speaker 3: was heading into. Free Agency's name was bandied about at

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Speaker 3: the trade deadline, but he and his wife Carly have

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Speaker 3: taken to Instagram into social media to say goodbye to Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking down because literally as we're doing the show.

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Speaker 3: He posted it said, I wish things were different and

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Speaker 3: this is hard to put into words. When Buffalo traded

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Speaker 3: me to Cleveland seven years ago, I never could have

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Speaker 3: imagined how much this city would mean to me. Ultimately,

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Speaker 3: the Browns took a chance and change the director of

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Speaker 3: the trajectory of my life forever. He goes on to

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Speaker 3: thank the best fans of the NFL, thanks Northeast Ohio

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Speaker 3: and the community. His family is blessed to have played

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Speaker 3: here and to have been here. Go Brown. Cleveland will

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Speaker 3: always have a special place in our hearts. With love

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Speaker 3: and pancakes, bleeping loves anything less from me, Wyatt Teller.

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Speaker 3: Let's say this about Wyatt. Yeah, last year didn't go well.

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Speaker 3: I think why would probably admit that it wasn't his

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Speaker 3: best year on the field. The whole benching thing and

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Speaker 3: working in with Devin Jenkins was what it was. He

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Speaker 3: wasn't happy about it. He certainly made that clear. But

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Speaker 3: it was one of the best trades that the Browns

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Speaker 3: have made in recent history. They gave up like a

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Speaker 3: five and a six for Wyatt and a seven. That

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Speaker 3: was a John Dorsey trade. That was a steal. He

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Speaker 3: turns into a three time Pro bowler. When he and

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Speaker 3: Ethan Posting and Joel Potonio were rolling in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: and twenty twenty one in the playoff season in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty three, they were road graders. Like our friend Brian

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Speaker 3: Baldinger would do a weekly video about how Wyatt Telor

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Speaker 3: and Poe and Joel on the left side were just

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Speaker 3: mauling people. Wyatt Tellor is a bad you know what,

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Speaker 3: and he gave his heart and soul, like gave his

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Speaker 3: heart and soul to this team. We're gonna miss David,

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Speaker 3: certainly gonna miss why they're much different players. But you

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Speaker 3: can't write the story of the last time many every

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Speaker 3: years of Cleveland Brown's football and the identity that I

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Speaker 3: think all of us. Love the running, the football, the

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Speaker 3: Nicholas Jamal Chubb. We're gonna run right at you, Cleveland

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Speaker 3: Browns without Wyatt Teller at right guard. Carly love her

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Speaker 3: as well. She's fun and she's also on social media too,

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Speaker 3: by the way, And yeah, you knew it was coming.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna miss him and I wish Why the best

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Speaker 3: of luck and Carly, the entire Teller family. Yeah, all

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Speaker 3: the best.

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Speaker 4: I've had some phenomenal interactions with Yeah, we all have.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's on the air, off the air. I mean,

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Speaker 4: what you see is what you get. With Wyatt Teller.

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Speaker 4: There's no there's no beating around the bush, and I

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Speaker 4: love him for it. I've had some great interviews. I know,

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Speaker 4: our good friend Ken Carmen on the on the University

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Speaker 4: House Bills, Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Some of the stuff

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Speaker 4: we've taped, just the hunting, it was basically a hunting

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Speaker 4: and fishing stuff is great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when he had.

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Speaker 4: The gator over his arms when he went gator hunting, that's.

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Speaker 3: Who Whyatt is and Whytt is. His heart's as big

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Speaker 3: as he is, and it sucks.

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Speaker 4: It's the business of the National Football League and that

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Speaker 4: we talked about it last week that there was going

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Speaker 4: to have to be some tough decisions. We saw it

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Speaker 4: with David Nijoku. We're seeing it with Wyatt Teller, and

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Speaker 4: I know he will go on and continue on what

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Speaker 4: has become a really, really good career for a guy

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Speaker 4: that we traded for, if I'm correct, Between the final

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Speaker 4: preseason game and Week one of the regular season, when

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Speaker 4: we made that trade, John Horskan was like, yeah, we

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Speaker 4: traded for an offensive lineman. And he came in and

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Speaker 4: talked and he walked away, and we were like, there's

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Speaker 4: something about him, like I think he's going to fit

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Speaker 4: in here, and I think he might play, And boy

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Speaker 4: did he play for seven years and.

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Speaker 3: He gave it as all he did Native Virginia much

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Speaker 3: like myself. We connected on that stuff. Yeah, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to miss the guy. It really was a good trade

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Speaker 3: Number one and number two. I think it's also as

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Speaker 3: the Browns are going to need to rebuild their offensive line.

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Speaker 3: We know that we talked about that, We're going to

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Speaker 3: talk about the entire offseason. It is a reminder that

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Speaker 3: sometimes a second or a third stop for offensive lineman,

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Speaker 3: guys that were really thought of highly coming out of

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Speaker 3: college why it wasn't a first round pick, but you

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Speaker 3: know he was a good select. I think it's a

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Speaker 3: third round pick. Sometimes it doesn't work at the first

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Speaker 3: stop and it does work at the second stop, right,

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Speaker 3: like for Austin Corbett. The other way around didn't work

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Speaker 3: for the Corbett with the Browns. He was a second

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Speaker 3: round pick. He got to La at work there, he

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Speaker 3: got to Carolina, he built a career.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: There are so many stories in the NFL about players

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Speaker 3: where for whatever reason, and you see this so much

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Speaker 3: on the offensive line, it doesn't work, but it works

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Speaker 3: for them somewhere else. And the Brown's going to have

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Speaker 3: to turn over some of those stones, I think to

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Speaker 3: rebuild their offensive line. It's not just going to be

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Speaker 3: for rookies they draft no on days one, two, and three.

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Speaker 3: It's not going to be some necessarily high priced free

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Speaker 3: agent or leftok I don't know if it is or

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Speaker 3: it isn't, But there are other ways to build an

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Speaker 3: old line, my point being other than high draft picks

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Speaker 3: and big free agent money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, they're going to have to put together

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Speaker 4: a lot of pieces. And we're still waiting on Joel Buttonio.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like now that the Botonio decision has been

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Speaker 4: pushed back a few weeks until the start of free agency.

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Speaker 4: In that little tampering period, you know that, you know,

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Speaker 4: we wait and see what happens with Joel here over

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Speaker 4: the next couple of weeks. Will you stay, will you retire?

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Speaker 4: Will you know? Will you be somewhere else as well?

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Speaker 4: Something something to watch here? And Dwan Jones is in

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00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 4: the building every day that you having, but you know

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Speaker 4: you're gonna need a lot more depth of tackle and

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Speaker 4: inside you're gonna need a lot more too. And I

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Speaker 4: mean it's the whole offensive kind of rebuild starts with

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Speaker 4: those five on the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: Give me as I bid a do and wish you

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Speaker 3: safe travels and we will see each other in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 3: I want you to train for the cocktail sauce. I

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Speaker 3: want you to train for the horse radish. I'm good,

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Speaker 3: bring it on, good on me as well. Now I'm

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Speaker 3: not Zigura who like dips and like, oh I do.

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Speaker 3: There's five pounds of it, No, and we almost filled

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Speaker 3: Bishop the one year with it. You've seen the bit

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Speaker 3: I did with Joe Thomas on the network years ago, right, yes, sir,

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Speaker 3: where Joe Joe literally has the sweat rolling down his

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Speaker 3: face on television.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they iced to do that other week. I believe.

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Speaker 4: I believe they have made it known they kicks up

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Speaker 4: a notch here this coming week.

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Speaker 3: So he do, and I look forward to it. I

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Speaker 3: look forward to seeing you there. I look forward to

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Speaker 3: bringing you guys a bunch of pods from Indianapolis. That's

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