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Speaker 1: professional sports. Please welcome to money making conversation, my man.

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Speaker 1: some significant rights. Yes, it's McCullum Harris ninety one. So

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Speaker 1: I put my name on it because legacy is huge

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Speaker 1: of when we took me back to my childhood. The

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Speaker 1: kind of what everything together? And you smooth? J? You smooth?

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Speaker 1: Here is flower? You're romantic? But man, romantic? Now you

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Speaker 1: said Netflix? Now did you see the movie Uncorked on Netflix?

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Speaker 1: I haven't. Oh, come on, c J, come on, man,

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Speaker 1: you gotta see that. But you will love that movie. Man,

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Speaker 1: I saw it twice. It's outstanding. Man, you got to

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Speaker 1: see uncork. Its body is written and directed executive produced

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Speaker 1: by my man Prentice Penny, who executive produces Insecure on HBO.

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Speaker 1: Uncork you gotta watch it, man, It's outstanding. If you're

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Speaker 1: It's a father's son's story. It's a family story. Man

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Speaker 1: is passionate. It's entertaining. But because you are a wine connoisseur,

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Speaker 1: It's called Uncorked. It's on Netflix. You gotta watch it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you no more? I'm done, I'm cool. I want to

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Speaker 1: do it now here. Here's my whole thing. My wife,

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Speaker 1: I actually didn't throw away all her corks one day.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize how much, how much passion, and how

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Speaker 1: in this little boot and in our kitchen in our

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Speaker 1: Houston home. One day, I just came in, just got

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Speaker 1: tired of looking at the corks, and I thought I

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Speaker 1: just do some manly stuff and discard him. That really

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Speaker 1: had a bad week for me there, c J wouldn't

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Speaker 1: didn't go good for me that week for your boy.

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Speaker 1: But what I want to know is how does one

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Speaker 1: get or purchase your wine. Let's go there, let's start marketing.

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Speaker 1: Let's start ourselves. That's that's an awesome question. Anybody that's

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Speaker 1: interested in purchasing my wine, can visit McCullum heritage dot com.

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Speaker 1: That McCullum my last name heritage dot com. You can

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Speaker 1: sign up for the newsletter and basically received updates. Learn

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Speaker 1: more about my wine, learn more about wine in general.

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Speaker 1: When you can purchase, it will be available to be

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Speaker 1: purchased in September. Let me the quantity, only a hundred cases.

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Speaker 1: It'll go fast. It will like Grandma Cake. Is gonna

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Speaker 1: go like Grandma can again. It's gonna go like your

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Speaker 1: great great grandma Corn brand. That's how fast. I'm a

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Speaker 1: call brand, buttermell guy. So you got me there. Now,

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Speaker 1: Now this is gonna be in September, which is a

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Speaker 1: launched but it's going to be available to be sold

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Speaker 1: in September. Now, I know you've been in the middle

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Speaker 1: that period, right, I will, I will be hopefully we're

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Speaker 1: still playing at that point in time and still continuing

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Speaker 1: to chase the championship. Awesome. So, so what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: is to you is that I got you know, I

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Speaker 1: got I got a little following here, I got like

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Speaker 1: almost a million social media followers. I got a fan club,

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Speaker 1: of ninety thousand Fan Club subscribers. I send the news

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Speaker 1: with her twice a month, so I want to support you.

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Speaker 1: I'm about already told you I'm a fan of us now.

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Speaker 1: Just this interview has only sold me on the c

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Speaker 1: J brand because you're a brand to me, my friend

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Speaker 1: and I and if you ever want to talk to

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Speaker 1: me about anything in life, man, uh, if you if

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Speaker 1: you google me, you see, Uh, that's all I do

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Speaker 1: is marketing and brand stuff. And I mentor a lot

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Speaker 1: of people, and you wanted the people I would love

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Speaker 1: to keep in my life because man, you you've been

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Speaker 1: raised right. Man, you talk right, You've got your head

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Speaker 1: on your shoulders right, and I know life after basketball

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Speaker 1: is gonna be exceptional for you. Ce J. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: those words, and offline to make sure you've got my

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Speaker 1: contact information. I'm gonna reach out and definitely take you

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Speaker 1: up on that advice because I like to be around

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Speaker 1: like minded, successful people who work hard, do things the

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Speaker 1: right way at morals. The only way you're gonna stay

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Speaker 1: in touch with me. If you don't watch uncook, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna kick you to the curb now because I know

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Speaker 1: you your front nomen you know what I'm saying, see you,

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Speaker 1: when I recommend people to do something right that they're

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Speaker 1: gonna enjoy, it is romantic. You to sit down with

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Speaker 1: your girl. You know, she's a she had she had

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Speaker 1: a flower on the bottle of wine. Just cook that

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Speaker 1: wine and said Rashawn said it was worth watching the baby.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna check it out. And you enjoyed. Man, But

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Speaker 1: thank you for calling money making conversation c J. Man.

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Speaker 1: Really Uh uh, I I just I just I just

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Speaker 1: find you talented. Man, You just exceptional. And Chris Paul

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Speaker 1: one of my boys, man, and uh, you're you're in

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Speaker 1: line with that Magic Johnson. That's my boy, you know.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know I've had equal dollar on the show.

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Speaker 1: You know what he's doing with the tech world down

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Speaker 1: there in Silicon Valley. Man, you guys are leading the way.

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Speaker 1: And uh, of course, you know, we can't forget what

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Speaker 1: And you're a true leader man. And don't change, okay,

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Speaker 1: please don't change. Absolutely, I never will. But I remember

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Speaker 1: that's that's the keyest thing grounded. But I appreciate those

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Speaker 1: I remember man. Thank you c J for calling my

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