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Speaker 1: Happened everybody?

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Speaker 3: No you know? I mean, I'm gonna listen to the

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Speaker 1: Just a good old boy, never meaning no harm. It's all.

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Speaker 4: Both welcome by your dreams were your ticket welcome by.

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Speaker 1: I say this calls for action, and now in the buck.

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Speaker 4: I'm meting on the air in Cincinnati, Cincinnati key on.

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Speaker 5: The millowplane songs My Name Parade.

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Speaker 6: Nice, my gosh, we hadn't made.

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Speaker 1: Linda. I've been advised you are eighty five years old.

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Speaker 7: I am, I am.

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Speaker 7: Well, thank you. I called because I have a positive attitude.

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Speaker 7: I know today I've been listening in seems that there

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Speaker 7: They want to load you down with fear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. They call it doom scrolling. You see

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Speaker 1: Gonna give you the keeper the stone. And on this day,

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Speaker 1: But John, when I realized that was you, because you

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Speaker 1: It is uncanny how you sound completely lucid and sober,

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Speaker 2: Well, do you realize how passive aggressive you are?

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Speaker 1: That's a great story. I don't remember you telling me that.

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Speaker 2: I just mentioned Pete Fountain. I told you about him

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Speaker 2: Depiction would be a more accurate word. But I was

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Speaker 1: I remember, I do recall that my favorite phone call

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Speaker 1: My goodness, here's what we know since we were round

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Speaker 3: Okay? Change the face. So I'm kind of a waterburger

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