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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. We are back with Rick Sterling, our space expert.

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Speaker 1: We'll take calls with Rick next our Rick back to

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Speaker 1: the President Trump Initiative for twenty twenty four. Where does

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Speaker 1: it stand right now? And what needs to be done

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Speaker 1: to get this thing really rolling? What needs to be

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Speaker 1: done is for the public to call in. I hope

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Speaker 1: you have the numbers that I gave. We've got the

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Speaker 1: links up there. Yeah, have them call in and say

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Speaker 1: we want that. Those are to the heads of the

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Speaker 1: House and Senate appropriations committees and subcommittees, and they are

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Speaker 1: the people that fund NASA as it stands now, it

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Speaker 1: looks like the Senate probably will. We'll give it. It's

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Speaker 1: in the House. Worthy. There's a little bit of resistance,

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Speaker 1: and I think you know, but George, this is not

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Speaker 1: a partisan issue, you know, not Republican issue. This is

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Speaker 1: not a democratic issue. This is a United States issue

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Speaker 1: and possibly a world issue. Yep. So get away from

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Speaker 1: the idea you know that this has any thing to

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Speaker 1: do with partisan politics. There are partisan politics and funding

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Speaker 1: the things, but this concept of manned lunar expiration, Mars

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Speaker 1: expiration possible existence of intelligent extraterrestrial life that goes way

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Speaker 1: beyond just you know, partisan politics, so you know, whether

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Speaker 1: they be a Democrat or a Republican, we should contact

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Speaker 1: our elected representatives and request that they, you know, fund

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Speaker 1: this program. It's very very important. I think it's important

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Speaker 1: for another reason, and it goes back to President Kennedy,

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Speaker 1: the idea of creating hope, especially in the in the

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Speaker 1: young people of the country and inspiring them to study

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Speaker 1: science and math, which is one of the reasons NASA

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Speaker 1: gives in their statements about this. It's very important that

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Speaker 1: the young people have something very positive to focus their

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Speaker 1: minds on, and something like this is just exactly what

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Speaker 1: they need. And we need more scientists in this country.

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Speaker 1: We need more physicists in astronomy and biologists and medical doctors, etc.

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Speaker 1: What was it that got the president to want to

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Speaker 1: go back on the Moon in twenty twenty four. I

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Speaker 1: have no idea. I do know that I don't think

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Speaker 1: it was something that just happened all at once, because

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Speaker 1: when the Vice President announced this on the twenty sixth

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Speaker 1: I might mention he is an excellent not only excellent

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Speaker 1: There had been some discussion in earlier meetings of the

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Speaker 1: National Space Council, dating back several months, among the Advisory

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Speaker 1: this is too long. Twenty twenty eight is too long,

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Speaker 1: and they wanted to get this done much earlier. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's basically several things. It's it's

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Speaker 1: this faster, and they felt a great nation should be

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Speaker 1: able to do it faster. And I think there's another

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Speaker 1: reason that was mentioned by the Administrator of NASA in

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Speaker 1: an article or an interview he gave in it's called

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Speaker 1: NASA Administrator on New Moon Plan. We're going to this.

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Speaker 1: We're doing this in a way that's never been done before.

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Speaker 1: This was in the Verge website on May twenty seventy nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Authors Lauren Grush and she basically asked the administrator Bridenstein,

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Speaker 1: I'll read you the question, I'll give you his answer.

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Speaker 1: Given everything we've talked about, do you have one big

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Speaker 1: concern about making this plan in reality? What is the

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Speaker 1: biggest challenges for you guys, and how do you plan

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Speaker 1: to overcome these hurdles. You have identified the biggest risk,

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Speaker 1: This is the administrator talking. You have identified the biggest risk,

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Speaker 1: have been many efforts since nineteen seventy to return to

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Speaker 1: the Moon, and they have all failed. And they have

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Speaker 1: not failed because of NASA. They have not failed because

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Speaker 1: That he requested about six hundred more million to do that,

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Speaker 1: his book, The Origins of the Sphinx. It's an excellent books.

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