1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Ah, it's time for bed, turn off the lights and 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: tuck in. But what happened before the light bulb? When 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: nature turned off your lights way too early? I'm Patty Steele. 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: How everybody dealt with darkness is next on the backstory. 5 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: Does anybody really get enough sleep? I know I sure don't. 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: But did you know that until one simple invention came along, 7 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: pretty much the entire world slept a whole different way 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: every night. I'm going to tell you about that invention 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: in just a moment, but first, there's a pretty fascinating 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: backstory that's all about how we slept until the late 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds. Folks went to bed really early, they woke 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: up late, did all sorts of stuff, and then went 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: back to sleep until morning. And they did it for 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: thousands of years. It's called segmented sleep. Now, I always 15 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: wondered back in the day, did people sleep more or 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: maybe just sort of pass out in front of the 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: fireplace when they got tired in the evening. Turns out no, 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: if they were going to be awake, even if it 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: was dark outside, they wanted to be totally awake. So 20 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: it's a typical day. You work all day. We all 21 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: do that, maybe eat some supper. Then you go to 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: bed early, like really early, six or seven o'clock, and 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: that's called your first sleep. Then, and here's where it 24 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: gets kind of fun. You get up around ten or 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: eleven PM and you stay up until maybe three am. 26 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: Second sleep kicks in at that point and that lasts 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: until it's light outside. And more people did this than not. 28 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: How do we not know this? Huh? See, nobody wants 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: to waste light in those days because after dark light 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: was all about fire, which was a real hassle to fuel. 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: So again, you wanted to be really awake when you 32 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: were awake, no dozing off and wasting candle or firelight. 33 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: So what happens in between sleeps? It's crazy active. You 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: go to parties, do social stuff like go now for 35 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: a beer, and you get stuff done around the house, 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: or maybe you write letters, poetry, books, make music art. 37 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: The time in between sleeps is called the watch, although 38 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: of course the French make it fancy. Of course they do. 39 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: They call it do'urvai. You gotta love the friend you, 40 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. How great would it be 41 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: to be rested at the end of the day feeling 42 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: terrific when you go out with friends instead of exhausted. Well, 43 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: this went on for thousands of years all over the world. 44 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: The ancient Greeks felt more creative and in touch with 45 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: their dreams after first sleep, so late at night they'd 46 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,559 Speaker 1: rush off to the temple to get their dreams interpreted 47 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: so they could figure out what they meant, what was 48 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: going on in their own heads. I totally get that. 49 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: Did you ever wake up in the middle of the 50 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: night and remember some crazy dream and then you try 51 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: to go back to sleep because you feel guilty waking up? 52 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: And in the morning you know you had a crazy dream, 53 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: but you forget. It drives you nuts trying to remember 54 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: and trying to figure out why the heck you had 55 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: the dream in the first Right into the late eighteen hundreds, 56 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: there were these huge parties at the White House where 57 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: people didn't even arrive until as late as ten or 58 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: ten thirty. Dinner wasn't served until after eleven. Social lightes 59 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: everywhere held huge formal events with dinner at eleven o'clock 60 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: and then folks hanging around a party on until like 61 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: three or four am. Regular folks, though, did the same thing, 62 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: hanging out in the local tavern sitting by the fire, 63 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: maybe making music or just small talk. And it was 64 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: regularly noted for being a great time to conceive children. 65 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: So what changed all that? Segmented sleep was pretty much 66 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: a normal part of life right up until the light 67 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: bulb that changed the dark part of our days forever. 68 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: By the way, it's kind of ironic that Edison's light 69 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: bulb took segmented sleep off the map for most of 70 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: us and didn't change the way he rested. He mostly 71 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: just took naps. He wasn't a big sleeper. Now, you'd 72 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: think that the light bulb changed life everywhere, but that's 73 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: not exactly the case. Even today, midday siestas and late 74 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: night dinners are a thing in Mexico, Italy, Spain, Greece 75 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: and other spots. They shut down stores and restaurants in 76 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: the late afternoon, take a refreshing snooze, and get right 77 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: back to life in the late evening, and in parts 78 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: of the world off the grid, segmented sleep is still 79 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: really common. For some. It's about saving personal energy and 80 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: limited available energy off the grid during the heat of 81 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: the day and re energizing yourself for late night. So 82 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: segmented or divided sleep wasn't and isn't just about utter darkness. 83 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: It was also about the same thing that makes you 84 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: and me wake up in the middle of the night, 85 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: our circadian rhythm, that's our internal body clock. For a 86 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: lot of us, that middle of the night wake up 87 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 1: is totally natural, even though a lot of us, including myself, 88 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: beat ourselves up for it. We just wish we wouldn't 89 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: wake up. We started ignoring what our body told us 90 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: when artificial light overtook our darkness. Now we power through, 91 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: so the actual sleep part of our day is jammed 92 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 1: into six to eight hours instead of spreading out over 93 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: twelve hours with a wake up in between. Maybe, though, 94 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: it's at the expense of our creative output and allowing 95 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: our bodyclock to tell us what to do without all 96 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: that guilt. I'm Patty Steele. The Backstory is a production 97 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: of iHeartMedia and Steel Trap Productions. Our producer is Doug Fraser. 98 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: Our executive producer is Steve Goldstein of Amplified Media. We're 99 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 1: out with new episodes twice a week. Thanks for listening 100 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: to the Backstory. 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