Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour.
Speaker 2: In this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan Nets Dan Patrick's
Speaker 2: show Big ten. Saturday Night, It's Iowa and Minnesota Saturday
Speaker 2: on NBC and Peacock. Here comes Saturday Night, presented by Discover.
Speaker 2: Coming up, we'll check in with the Carolina Panthers. Scott
Speaker 2: Fowler has been covering this team for thirty years, and
Speaker 2: we'll ask him if this is the right move for
Speaker 2: both Bryce Young and the Carolina Panthers as they send
Speaker 2: the former number one overall pick to the bench and
Speaker 2: Andy Dalton, thirty six years of age, come on down.
Speaker 2: Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America,
Speaker 2: the official trading cards of our program. Good morning. If
Speaker 2: you're watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading the app
Speaker 2: and our radio affiliates around the country. The Eagles have
Speaker 2: now lost three of their last four home games, and
Speaker 2: after last night, Kirk Cousins he is now mister Primetime.
Speaker 2: He's won three of his last five primetime games, averaging
Speaker 2: two hundred and forty one passing yards per game while
Speaker 2: throwing eleven touchdowns and five interceptions. It didn't seem like
Speaker 2: it was a foregone conclusion that even if the Eagles
Speaker 2: didn't convert that third down, that they wouldn't go far
Speaker 2: it on fourth down, and that you would have Kirk
Speaker 2: Cousins with no timeouts, with a minute ago, and he's
Speaker 2: got to go ninety yards. But it happened. All of
Speaker 2: that happened. They missed the third down. Hi, Todd, Todd's
Speaker 2: bringing in something here. Thank you, Tom. Great to see
Speaker 2: you could have been done prior to the start of
Speaker 2: the last hour of the show. But you know, Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 2: they made the right call, They did the right thing.
Speaker 2: They got a couple of big plays. Philadelphia didn't put
Speaker 2: any pressure on him all night long. Give credit to
Speaker 2: that Falcons offensive line. And once again, I go back
Speaker 2: to what did you say prior to the third and three?
Speaker 2: And I thought, and on the Manning cast, They're all,
Speaker 2: don't put the ball in the air, and I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 2: you got Eli Peyton and then got Matt Ryan there.
Speaker 2: So what is the downside of running nothing? In my opinion,
Speaker 2: if you know that you're going to go for it
Speaker 2: on fourth, then run it on third. That was my thought.
Speaker 2: And you got a good offensive line, you got Saquon
Speaker 2: Barkley and Jalen Hurt said over eighty yards rushing. So
Speaker 2: now I would have done something where worst case scenario,
Speaker 2: we do an option play where it's you get You know,
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurst has the ball and Saquon Barkley is outside him.
Speaker 2: So even if they stop you, you're kicking a field
Speaker 2: goal because now it's going to be fourth and eight,
Speaker 2: fourth and seven, but you burn the clock. If you know,
Speaker 2: once again, everybody is going to go oh in retrospect,
Speaker 2: this is what I'm thinking in the moment, I have
Speaker 2: a really good offensive line. If you said, I pause
Speaker 2: the game, now make the call, and all I know
Speaker 2: is that Eli, Peyton, and Matt Ryan all said the
Speaker 2: same thing before the play. The only way Atlanta gets
Speaker 2: the ball back, according to Peyton, is if you put
Speaker 2: the ball in the air. Should say Kwon Barkley have
Speaker 2: caught it absolutely, but he didn't. If he doesn't pick
Speaker 2: up the first down, when you run it on third
Speaker 2: and three, maybe it's fourth and one, maybe you do
Speaker 2: the push push what you're famous for. Now all of
Speaker 2: a sudden game is over here, is Peyton, Eli and
Speaker 2: Matt Ryan reacting to Jalen Hurts throwing to say Kwan Barkley.
Speaker 1: Oh no, oh ooh.
Speaker 2: Wow, they had it.
Speaker 3: He listened, Jalen watched what Matt Ryan said. He said,
Speaker 3: I'm running that play again. I'm gonna give him the
Speaker 3: perfect throw front shoulder, like Matt said, get it.
Speaker 4: Out in front.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's why. That's why, I mean, that's why you
Speaker 4: don't throw. It is why you don't throw.
Speaker 2: But oh, it was a perfect call except for it wasn't.
Speaker 2: Peyton had to get up out of his chair like
Speaker 2: he is beside himself, because I mean, he takes all
Speaker 2: of these calls. You know, when Brandon Nyuk drops a
Speaker 2: pass in the end zone, and I mean it takes
Speaker 2: it personally. It's just like he's the quarterback. He's still quarterbacking.
Speaker 2: Eli just takes it in stride. He's like Peyton, it
Speaker 2: bothers him. But the Eagles losing a game at home
Speaker 2: when you would have thought this should have been a
Speaker 2: foregone conclusion. But Kirk cousins the Falcons. That's a big win,
Speaker 2: all right. Eight seven seven three DP show email address
Speaker 2: Dpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a TP show. So Kirk
Speaker 2: cousins a couple of touchdown passes, the other news, Carolina
Speaker 2: Panthers have benched Bryce Young and Andy Dalton will be
Speaker 2: the starting quarterback as we bring in Scott Fowler. Scott
Speaker 2: works for the Charlotte Observers sports columnists for the last
Speaker 2: thirty years and he joins us on the program. Scott,
Speaker 2: it's the annual Let's have Scott Fowler on to talk
Speaker 2: about how bad the Panthers are. So how did we
Speaker 2: get to this point?
Speaker 5: Well, short story is that the Panthers were two and
Speaker 5: fifteen last year and somehow they've gotten even worse. They're
Speaker 5: started off oh and two, but not only that, Dan,
Speaker 5: they've gotten blown out twice. It's seventy three to thirteen
Speaker 5: after two games in total.
Speaker 4: Point.
Speaker 5: So they made a big move yesterday.
Speaker 2: Okay, who's the one who benched Bryce Young?
Speaker 5: I think that's Dave Canalis, but he certainly had a
Speaker 5: lot of input because he was very hesitant to answer
Speaker 5: that question yesterday. But I think ultimately this is his call.
Speaker 5: He was brought into resurrect Bryce Young, Dan, and instead
Speaker 5: now after two games, they benched him.
Speaker 2: Okay, what is missing there with Bryce Young?
Speaker 5: He seems to me like he's overwhelmed and undersized those
Speaker 5: two things together are just working against him. Even in
Speaker 5: the best of times. He's undersized, right, but Drew Brees
Speaker 5: and Russell Wilson made that work, so it can happen.
Speaker 5: But to me, the reason they drafted in number one
Speaker 5: Dan was because they thought his brain was a computer
Speaker 5: and he would process everything new utifully and always make
Speaker 5: the right throw and throw it accurately, and that would
Speaker 5: make up for any other things. What's happened, however, is
Speaker 5: I think his confidence is shot, and so because of that,
Speaker 5: he's just making poor decisions all.
Speaker 4: Over the place.
Speaker 2: Was he set up for failure?
Speaker 5: I thought last year he was. I didn't think they
Speaker 5: had enough around him, and especially not his offensive line.
Speaker 5: But honestly, right now, Dan, they're blocking pretty well. I
Speaker 5: mean in this last game he was not pressured that
Speaker 5: much at all, but he just kept taking the two
Speaker 5: yard checkdown on third and ten. It was like he
Speaker 5: was so worried about getting sacked and throwing a pick
Speaker 5: that he played the other way, just this ultra conservative way,
Speaker 5: and got booed Dan. More than I've covered this team
Speaker 5: thirty years, I've never seen a home opener where the
Speaker 5: fans booed like that.
Speaker 2: And I think, what did he have eighteen completions but
Speaker 2: not even ninety yards. I mean that tells you everything
Speaker 2: of let me just get the ball out, but you
Speaker 2: don't have playmakers to get the ball out too. So
Speaker 2: it's I understand you're really you're not even getting out
Speaker 2: of first gear here. But go back to the draft
Speaker 2: because David Tepper, I'm gonna guess, you know, from Mount Olympus,
Speaker 2: came down and said we're taking him and we're going
Speaker 2: to trade our best receiver. And I mean, this is
Speaker 2: this is a mess. But is this the right decision
Speaker 2: to move on? Are they moving on from brace Young?
Speaker 5: I kind of think that they are until Andy Dalton
Speaker 5: either shows them otherwise or you know, gets hurt, and
Speaker 5: that's certainly a possibility too. I think we'll see Bryce
Speaker 5: play again. But are they moving on? This sure feel
Speaker 5: symbolic to me two games into the season, and yet
Speaker 5: Dan I will say, and I've written in the Charlotte Observer,
Speaker 5: I think it is the right move. I mean, how
Speaker 5: big of a sample size do you need when a
Speaker 5: guy's gone two and sixteen over eighteen starts, and in
Speaker 5: those eighteen starts stand like ten of them he's throwing
Speaker 5: zero touchdown passes. So it's just they just don't score
Speaker 5: with him behind the wheel.
Speaker 2: Scott Fowler, Charlotte Observer sports columnists for the last thirty years,
Speaker 2: Will David Tepper talk this week the owner?
Speaker 5: We'd love him too, I would guess not. He's normally
Speaker 5: He's been very behind the scenes Dan for most of
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four, and so we just don't know, if
Speaker 5: you know, if he's the wizard behind the curtain here
Speaker 5: on these decisions. I'm sure he's consulted on all of them.
Speaker 5: But the one that just keeps resonating here, of course,
Speaker 5: is they see c J. Stroud lighting it up every
Speaker 5: single week, and they could have had him. And of
Speaker 5: course even Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold who played who
Speaker 5: started here, ye are both to know right now. I mean,
Speaker 5: Matt rule is three and oh in Nebraska, I mean,
Speaker 5: it's it's just everyone. I think it's us Dan somehow.
Speaker 5: I think it's it's this city that recurs.
Speaker 2: But I've said this before, Scott. If CJ. Stroud was
Speaker 2: on Carolina, they wouldn't be any better. And if Bryce
Speaker 2: Young played for the Texans, we might see a different
Speaker 2: Bryce Young. If you don't have an offensive line. If
Speaker 2: you don't have a couple of playmakers, you're just not
Speaker 2: You're not going to succeed. I don't care how good
Speaker 2: you are.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, you're right. It's they set him up for
Speaker 5: failure for sure last year. And I thought this year
Speaker 5: they really tried to make it better. It's still not
Speaker 5: much better, but I really honestly think most of it
Speaker 5: is on Bryce right now, I mean they did. They've
Speaker 5: got a pretty good offensive line actually right now, way
Speaker 5: better than last year. They ran the ball very well
Speaker 5: or for them, you know, on Sunday and and they
Speaker 5: but they couldn't never make a third and two. I mean,
Speaker 5: it was just it was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, But Andy Dalton got a start last year,
Speaker 2: he did one has he thrown I think you might
Speaker 2: have pointed this out. Did he throw for more yards
Speaker 2: in that game? Then Bryce is thrown this year?
Speaker 5: Right, And that was with a worst cast of receivers.
Speaker 5: He threw for three sixty one. They still lost, but
Speaker 5: he had the best game any Panther quarterback had last
Speaker 5: year came when Andy Dalton played that one game for Bryce,
Speaker 5: and they put him right back on the bench, you know,
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously he's thirty six years old.
Speaker 1: Dan.
Speaker 5: He came out in the same draft class as Cam Newton,
Speaker 5: as people around here will point out. But in the
Speaker 5: short term, I mean, he's clearly the better player.
Speaker 2: All right, let's fast forward to next year's NFL draft.
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers on the clock. What did they do with
Speaker 2: the number one overall pick?
Speaker 5: Well, if they I think that would be a good
Speaker 5: scenario for them. I mean, right now, I think getting
Speaker 5: number one again and not having to trade their way
Speaker 5: to it would be great. And I think they'll pick
Speaker 5: a quarterback. I think honestly that they'll start over here
Speaker 5: and try try it again in that amazing but yeah,
Speaker 5: I think that's the way it's going to go. And
Speaker 5: I'll be talking about it, Aril.
Speaker 2: I'll talk to you in April when they're on the clock. Scott,
Speaker 2: great to talk to you again. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2: Thanks Dan, Scott Fowler. He's seen it all covered at
Speaker 2: all thirty years and had not heard the building that
Speaker 2: loud booing Bryce Young this past weekend. What do you
Speaker 2: do with Bryce? You just having sit and learn and
Speaker 2: hopefully Andy Dalton is able to help him. But it
Speaker 2: might not be a reclamation project. There in Carolina, might
Speaker 2: have to go someplace else. All right, phone calls, we'll
Speaker 2: get to those coming up. Let me see Brad in Colorado.
Speaker 2: Hey Brad, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6: Good morning Dan. So, I've got a piping hot take
Speaker 6: for you right here. I believe I have solved inverse problem.
Speaker 6: Bow Nicks is too tall. So the Hall of Famer
Speaker 6: Sean Payton trades for Bryce young Man they win.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the problem with that Denver offense. Bow Knicks
Speaker 2: is too tall, and Sean Payton needs a shorter quarterback
Speaker 2: similar to Drew Brees. Thank you, Brad. Let me not
Speaker 2: write that down. Yes, Paul I got bow Knicks.
Speaker 7: I don't even have him at He's under six to four.
Speaker 7: He's not a tallest, he's not an Asweiler type guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, Tom So.
Speaker 4: It has nothing to do with constantly going three and
Speaker 4: out in punting, not being able to get touchdowns on
Speaker 4: him to self for field goals, and just being a
Speaker 4: total disaster.
Speaker 8: Yes, you know, it's really unfair for Bryce young What
Speaker 8: I'm just looking at this?
Speaker 4: Sorry?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 8: Last year, in this third game, he was his first game,
Speaker 8: he had no touchdowns, no interceptions. His second game. Oh wait, no,
Speaker 8: he started the season anyway.
Speaker 2: He sorry, let me collect with us.
Speaker 8: He put up thirty points on the Packers and lost
Speaker 8: last year, or at least the Panthers did.
Speaker 2: That feels like a game you should win. That's just unfair,
Speaker 2: that's true. But then the only games that he's won,
Speaker 2: they didn't score twenty points.
Speaker 8: Right, there's not a lot of games where they hung
Speaker 8: a lot of points in the county. Yeah, but it's like,
Speaker 8: dang man, you put thirty on the Packers and lost.
Speaker 2: That's just unfair, that's cruel. I don't think they're going
Speaker 2: to get into too many shootouts Carolina.
Speaker 8: If you're Bryce young, do you walk in and just say,
Speaker 8: why don't you trade me?
Speaker 2: Just do it now? Just get rid of me. Now?
Speaker 2: What are we going to drag this out for? I
Speaker 2: think I would wait. I think I would wait. I'm
Speaker 2: sure that he's embarrassed, he's hurt by this, but I
Speaker 2: think he owes it to Carolina to at least let's
Speaker 2: see if I can be the backup quarterback and I
Speaker 2: can absorb something here? Can I reclaim my confidence? I
Speaker 2: think he's going to play again in Carolina. I don't
Speaker 2: think they're going to kick him to the curb and
Speaker 2: maybe he gets a chance to have a couple of
Speaker 2: Look what happened to Zach Wilson, Like you're in, You're out.
Speaker 2: We don't want you, we want you. Uh, he didn't
Speaker 2: want to play. He shouldn't have been in there. They
Speaker 2: should have sat him down and let him and that
Speaker 2: was the plan, and then Rogers got hurt. I don't
Speaker 2: know if Zach Wilson ever recovers, you know, from the
Speaker 2: confidence standpoint to be able to play and be a
Speaker 2: starter in the NFL. I hope the same thing doesn't
Speaker 2: happen to Bryce Young.
Speaker 8: Yes, so we're gonna have We're gonna pull Bryce, let
Speaker 8: him sit. Yeah, he's got this crappy team around of
Speaker 8: no offense. Let's let him sit for a few weeks.
Speaker 8: Let's let all of these starters right now get hurt,
Speaker 8: and then we'll put you back in to give you
Speaker 8: one last chance. There's no guarantee that everybody's gonna get hurt. No,
Speaker 8: not everybody's gonna get hurt, But there I can guarantee
Speaker 8: you that a bunch of the current starters for the
Speaker 8: Carolina Panthers by week five, six seven will be hurt.
Speaker 2: You can guarantee that.
Speaker 7: I think if you're a starter for the Panthers and
Speaker 7: you're here, I'm gonna get hurt soon.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean you know that you are. It's just
Speaker 2: the way the game works.
Speaker 8: I don't think this is really a hot take to
Speaker 8: be like, I think a bunch of these starters are
Speaker 8: going to be.
Speaker 2: Hurt, like they're good players, Like, who are they? I
Speaker 2: don't know who the good players are. But that's why
Speaker 2: I'm saying starters. I don't know who the good guys are,
Speaker 2: but starters.
Speaker 7: Yes, Paul, here's a stat though, so brayces Young's rookie
Speaker 7: week got answers here, of course we do. Bryce Young's
Speaker 7: rookie year last year, he was a sixty percent passer,
Speaker 7: three thousand yards, eleven touchdowns, ten picks. His quarterback rating
Speaker 7: was seventy three point seven. That's not horrid, that's just
Speaker 7: not good. Josh Allen's rookie year, he was a fifty
Speaker 7: three percent passer, ten touchdowns, twelve picks. His quarterback rating
Speaker 7: was sixty seven point nine. Okay, he had a brys
Speaker 7: Young had a little bit of a better rookie season
Speaker 7: then Josh Allen. Maybe the plan is, let's reset this
Speaker 7: whole thing, use our draft pick to surround some talent,
Speaker 7: and start the whole thing again next year.
Speaker 2: But I don't think anybody looked at Josh Allen and
Speaker 2: said he lacks confidence. I said, and I was very critical.
Speaker 2: I said, he doesn't know how to play the position
Speaker 2: right now. He was trying to do too many things.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Bryce Young is guilty of trying
Speaker 2: to do too many things. It doesn't feel like he
Speaker 2: wants to do too much of anything. He gets the
Speaker 2: ball away quickly. He had eighteen completions for eighty five yards.
Speaker 9: Stead of a day, Stana day, Stantata day, Stanata day.
Speaker 2: This is the start of the day. Also, he was
Speaker 2: sacked sixty two times. I mean, you can't build up
Speaker 2: any rapport, confidence, any of that stuff. You can't. That
Speaker 2: is one of the worst seasons for a quarterback as
Speaker 2: far as sacks go. I think it's top ten in history.
Speaker 2: How much confidence would you have? Yes? Yes?
Speaker 4: Do you think this is like a David Carr situation
Speaker 4: where he just didn't even have time to even show
Speaker 4: you that he could play quarterback at the NFL level?
Speaker 2: Well, I remember that quite vividly, talking to David Carr,
Speaker 2: and I thought he had a lot of talent, but
Speaker 2: his confidence went down quickly. Because he went down quickly.
Speaker 2: I think he got sacked seventy three times in one season.
Speaker 2: Yeah point.
Speaker 7: David Carr was sacked seventy six times as a rookie,
Speaker 7: the all time record. He also has third place, yeah place.
Speaker 7: He was sacked sixty eight times a year later. The
Speaker 7: top five all time Top ten. Randall Cunningham seventy two times,
Speaker 7: Sam Howell just last year sixty five times. Bryce Young
Speaker 7: is sixth all time, was sixty two times being sacked
Speaker 7: this last season, boy.
Speaker 2: You bring up Randall Cunningham. And that's when I did
Speaker 2: a feature on the Eagles and Buddy Ryan was the
Speaker 2: head coach, and I show up at training camp and
Speaker 2: I asked him, Uh, how do you make sure that
Speaker 2: Randall isn't sacked as many times as he was last year?
Speaker 2: And he turned around, he didn't even answer it, and
Speaker 2: then the PR guy grabbed him and said, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: you got to do this. You know this CNN. I
Speaker 2: was at CNN. I go you know, So I asked
Speaker 2: him again and he said, oh, we're just gonna let
Speaker 2: everybody sack him, and then he walked away and I went, okay,
Speaker 2: and I was going to put it in my report
Speaker 2: and I thought, you know, I was trying to be nice,
Speaker 2: but yeah, he he embarrassed me there, but I was
Speaker 2: just gonna let everybody sack him. And then he turned
Speaker 2: around and walked away. I was like, this job's supposed
Speaker 2: to be fun, isn't it. It's not a tough question. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but oh my god.
Speaker 4: You're about to be Kevin Gilbride.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was gonna get punched. All right, let me take
Speaker 2: a break. We'll get to more phone calls and a
Speaker 2: new poll question coming up. We're back after this Stan
Speaker 2: Patrick show.
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio
Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to
Speaker 1: listen live.
Speaker 10: Hey, we're Covino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day
Speaker 10: five to seven pm Eastern. But here's the thing, we
Speaker 10: never have enough time to get to everything we want
Speaker 10: to get to.
Speaker 9: And that's why we have a brand new podcast called
Speaker 9: over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in
Speaker 9: our two hour show. We never get to everything, honestly,
Speaker 9: because this guy is over promising things we never have
Speaker 9: time for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you blubber, list lame and me.
Speaker 10: Well, you know what it's called over promise. You should
Speaker 10: be good at it because you've been over promising women
Speaker 10: for years.
Speaker 9: Well, it's a Cavino and Rich after show and we
Speaker 9: want you to be a part of it. We're gonna
Speaker 9: be talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk
Speaker 9: life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing
Speaker 9: about something or we didn't have enough time, it will
Speaker 9: continue on our after show called over Promised.
Speaker 10: Well, if you don't get enough Covino and Rich, make
Speaker 10: sure you check out over Promise and also uncensored by
Speaker 10: the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a
Speaker 10: little harder. It's gonna be the best after show podcast
Speaker 10: of all time.
Speaker 9: There you go, over promising. Remember you could see it
Speaker 9: on YouTube, but definitely join us. Listen Over Promised with
Speaker 9: Cadino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or
Speaker 9: wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2: I mentioned something that surprised me last night. You have
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins who doesn't have any mobility. He has even
Speaker 2: less mobility after Achilles surgery, and the Eagles did not
Speaker 2: put pressure on him. They hit him twice. I think
Speaker 2: he had thirty one passes. He got hit, twenty one sacked.
Speaker 2: And I'm looking at the edge rushers for the Eagles
Speaker 2: in two games. Josh Sweat has zero sacks eighty one
Speaker 2: snaps that he's played. Rice Huff sixty two snaps, zero sacks,
Speaker 2: Nolan Smith fifty four sacks, fifty four snaps, zero sacks,
Speaker 2: Brandon Graham's sixty apps, zero sacks. That's their rushers. They
Speaker 2: put no pressure on the quarterback. That's amazing. And you
Speaker 2: have a defensive coordinator who does it, Blitz. I gotta
Speaker 2: put pressure on Kirk Cousins. I gotta force him to
Speaker 2: run a little bit here. I get it. You know,
Speaker 2: you can be set in your ways of this is
Speaker 2: how my defense plays. I got to kind of adjust
Speaker 2: it in accordance to who I'm playing against. If I'm
Speaker 2: playing against Aaron Rodgers, I'm gonna make him run a
Speaker 2: little bit, or I'm gonna make him get rid of
Speaker 2: the ball because he doesn't want to run. Kirk Cousins
Speaker 2: achilles surgery as well. I gotta put pressure on him here,
Speaker 2: and the Eagles did not do that, all right, New
Speaker 2: Pole question. By the way, here is the Carolina head
Speaker 2: coach Dave Canalis, and here's the question from a report
Speaker 2: order on the decision to bench Bryce yew Keeper saying.
Speaker 4: The past that he gets consulted.
Speaker 5: On the big decisions.
Speaker 4: What was his role in this as you guys talked about.
Speaker 11: I want to keep that private. What I would like
Speaker 11: to say, though, is this is something after I watched
Speaker 11: the film, I looked at it, had a thought, started
Speaker 11: working on talking to the guys that we make decisions with.
Speaker 11: Certainly a lot of parties involved there, and ultimately this
Speaker 11: comes on me and my number one responsibility is to
Speaker 11: help the Panthers win and so this move I believe
Speaker 11: puts us in the best chance to do that this week.
Speaker 2: Okay, keep it vague, it's all Look, he's a rookie coach.
Speaker 2: Is this an ideal situation? No, But you don't want
Speaker 2: to pass up being a head coach in the NFL,
Speaker 2: even if it's with this ownership and with this substandard team.
Speaker 2: I get it. Do I think David Tepper is involved
Speaker 2: in this? Absolutely? If he was involved in drafting Bryce Young,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna imagine he's probably involved in benching Bryce Young.
Speaker 2: But if you say Bryce is our quarterback and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you say Andy Dalton gives us
Speaker 2: a better chance to win, it feels like we have
Speaker 2: to spin this. Got to make it positive, keep it vague,
Speaker 2: and hopefully move on.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 2: Paully has a way too early pie to the face.
Speaker 2: Bet way too early, pie to the face. Bet ready absolutely.
Speaker 7: For the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, the first pick
Speaker 7: of the entire draft will not.
Speaker 2: Be a quarterback.
Speaker 7: Will not. Well not over the past ten years, it's
Speaker 7: about seventy five percent of the time it's a quarterback.
Speaker 7: I think there's gonna be like six quarterbacks taken in
Speaker 7: round one, but not with the first pick.
Speaker 2: Okay, back to you, does anybody want a piece of
Speaker 2: the way too early pie to the face bet that
Speaker 2: a quarterback is not selected number one overall? Marvin, No, Wow, backing,
Speaker 2: you've kind of gotten a little fritzy, like a little
Speaker 2: soft when it comes to you know, oh, I.
Speaker 4: Believe I believe somebody's going to come out of nowhere
Speaker 4: and be the first quarterback taken.
Speaker 2: Wait so you can make the bet. Paulie says the
Speaker 2: quarterback won't be number one overall, and you said that
Speaker 2: you agree, So what is it?
Speaker 4: You know what?
Speaker 12: I'm going to take that back? You are, I'll take
Speaker 12: the bet. Okay, easily manipulated, That's true. It's called content,
Speaker 12: all right. Are you comfortable with that?
Speaker 4: No? No, of course not.
Speaker 2: Wait, I don't. I don't want to pressure you into
Speaker 2: taking a pie to the face.
Speaker 4: There's worse things.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're soft, but yes, yes, see.
Speaker 8: Would Paul be willing to say that it will not
Speaker 8: be a quarterback, nor will it be edge rush.
Speaker 7: I'm not going to be pressured into that. You will
Speaker 7: not be give me some space.
Speaker 2: You will not be Okay, okay, all right, So Marvin,
Speaker 2: you're taking the bat.
Speaker 4: Yeah, quarterback is gonna be taken first, right.
Speaker 2: That's what you're saying. Yes, Paul is saying no.
Speaker 7: Yes, And I almost want to make a prediction. If
Speaker 7: Carolina gets the number one pick, they don't go quarterback.
Speaker 7: And they love shiny toys down there. I could see
Speaker 7: them flirting with Travis Hunter from Colorado. The novelty of him,
Speaker 7: the entertainment value of him, whether it be them or other.
Speaker 2: Where is Travis Hunter on the Heisman odds? I haven't
Speaker 2: seen updated odds, but guy's been pretty incredible. Yeah, Paulie,
Speaker 2: I got.
Speaker 7: They're floating around here. Cam Mooard to Miami, Jalen Milroe,
Speaker 7: Jackson Dart, Carson Beck. No one's taken it. Quinn Youwers
Speaker 7: is in the mix. No favorite as of now, I
Speaker 7: don't have.
Speaker 2: Is Travis Hunter in the top checking six or seven
Speaker 2: Old Canada? I got a maybe maybe picture day Ray
Speaker 2: can reach out to DraftKings as.
Speaker 8: Probably a top ten or right.
Speaker 2: He should be. He should be, he should be one
Speaker 2: of the front runners.
Speaker 7: I have him in one place at plus three thy
Speaker 7: five hundred.
Speaker 4: The team's not good.
Speaker 7: His story is great, though.
Speaker 2: Whether two and one talk to us in two months,
Speaker 2: you don't believe? Do you believe?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 7: But Travis Hunter has the story on his side. He
Speaker 7: doesn't need winning and losing. Yeah, by playing.
Speaker 2: Remember Gordy Lockbomb. Remember Gordy Lockbomb, no two way player
Speaker 2: at holy Cross and he finished what top five heisman? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think he found holy Cross.
Speaker 7: I think that was the Chuck Long Jackson Heisman.
Speaker 2: The closest heisman race ever.
Speaker 7: I think it was the cover of Sports Illustrated, The
Speaker 7: Thinking Man's Heisman Vote.
Speaker 2: I think Rick Riley wrote. I think he wrote a
Speaker 2: cover story on Gordi Lockbaum If I'm if I'm my
Speaker 2: memory serves me correctly, but he was a two way
Speaker 2: player at holy Cross and then they it was one
Speaker 2: of those where like, yeah, we're kind of buying into this.
Speaker 2: This is this is like a Disney movie with Gordi
Speaker 2: lockbamb Let me see Jason in North Carolina, Hi Jays,
Speaker 2: thanks for holding. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 13: What's going on DP? What's going on Fellas? Two things first,
Speaker 13: my September September VP is definitely going to Fred Warner
Speaker 13: getting fitted for the gold jacket right now that he's
Speaker 13: one of one out there and number two. I just
Speaker 13: have a question for you, Dan, you know, being a
Speaker 13: Niners fan in washing Brock Purty here these last couple
Speaker 13: of years, the temperature around the league, or at least
Speaker 13: on the media is more of it.
Speaker 14: Is just meh.
Speaker 13: There's a whole lot of meh. And you know, I
Speaker 13: watching quarterback play definitely for the first two weeks, and
Speaker 13: even the top guys I Pastor Mahomes.
Speaker 15: Joe Burrow, do let it out.
Speaker 13: I mean those guys are making mistakes, making fumbles, and
Speaker 13: in terms of game I feel like Rock Purdy and
Speaker 13: Joe Burrow. This might be a hot take, but I
Speaker 13: feel like both of them have a very similar game
Speaker 13: in terms of how they dissect, how they go through
Speaker 13: their reads, and they can also beat you when the
Speaker 13: play breaks down. So I'm curious about how much you've
Speaker 13: actually watched a Rock Purty to form your opinion. It's
Speaker 13: not to say that you have a bad opinion about him,
Speaker 13: but I'm just curious.
Speaker 2: Well, I go back to college there, Jays. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you do with Brock Purty, but we talked
Speaker 2: about rock Purty probably junior year. I think, so I
Speaker 2: know what you're getting at that. I somehow am not
Speaker 2: watching rock Purty.
Speaker 7: And we celebrated Broctober Festival.
Speaker 2: Yes, so we did that, Yes we did so. Heck yeah,
Speaker 2: do your homework if you're coming after me. I'll admit
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, but I have nothing against Brock Purdy.
Speaker 2: Rock Purty is a game manager and he does a
Speaker 2: wonderful job. But that's not a negative because Tom Brady
Speaker 2: was a game manager. He's not a gunslinger. He manages
Speaker 2: the game. He's got a brilliant coach, offensive minded coach,
Speaker 2: and he's had weapons around him. He takes advantage of that,
Speaker 2: that's what you want. Would I love to have Brock
Speaker 2: Purty as my quarterback, absolutely on that team. But if
Speaker 2: he goes to Carolina, you tell me how much success
Speaker 2: does Brock Purty having. So let's just call it like
Speaker 2: it is. He's the right quarterback for this system. It
Speaker 2: doesn't cost them anything that it's going to cost them
Speaker 2: a lot. It's allowed them to keep the talent, the
Speaker 2: collective together, that's all. It's just a context of it
Speaker 2: that gets lost by people the right now. And he's
Speaker 2: done a really good job, So I have nothing against him.
Speaker 2: People get offended like it's everything's personal to you. It's
Speaker 2: not to me. I just call it as I see it.
Speaker 2: I have no agenda here with this.
Speaker 8: Yes, I do appreciate when we get the like, guys,
Speaker 8: would you drop the agenda?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 8: If you look at the Panthers offensive line and pass
Speaker 8: only situations where they're going to the left, they're actually
Speaker 8: really effective. Okay, So just stop with the narrative. Oh
Speaker 8: my god, how the hell are we supposed to drill
Speaker 8: down that far?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I think you've got systemic problems there. It's
Speaker 2: not when you roll to your left you're really good
Speaker 2: with your pass blocking there, but thank you for doing
Speaker 2: a deep dive there. Yeah, rock Perty is a great story.
Speaker 2: I'm all about content. It'd be great if he won
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. If he makes sixty million, good for him.
Speaker 2: I don't care. But can you take it personally as
Speaker 2: if I have an agenda?
Speaker 4: And I don't.
Speaker 2: I couldn't care less. Griffin and Cincinnati. Hi Griff, what's
Speaker 2: on your mind today?
Speaker 15: Good morning, fellas. I got a couple of quick things
Speaker 15: for you, including a pie to the face bet. But first,
Speaker 15: out of the many ailments that all of you have
Speaker 15: come across among your lives, has anybody ever had to
Speaker 15: have a cardiac MRII when I'm receiving on Thursday, anyone
Speaker 15: ever had one?
Speaker 2: Anybody cardiac? Anybody? Nope, Nope, We've had a lot of procedures.
Speaker 2: No cardiac.
Speaker 15: All right, Well, that's good to hear. Healthy heart's all around.
Speaker 15: The pie of the face bet. I believe that the
Speaker 15: Satti Bengals will win the AFC North Division. Anybody think otherwise?
Speaker 2: No, because I'm looking at the AFC North right now,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if I'm fully invested in the Steelers.
Speaker 2: Raven's got Dallas coming up, and I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a big win in Jacksonville. I have
Speaker 2: to give them credit day. That was a big win.
Speaker 2: But and then the Steelers, I'm not stillers. I'm not
Speaker 2: quite sure. I mean, the Ravens are going to Dallas. Now,
Speaker 2: you got Dallas after a humbling home loss to the Saints.
Speaker 2: Is that must win for the Ravens?
Speaker 4: Yes, must win? Yes it is?
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, because it'd be three. Oh really, that's what happens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's usually what happens.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You go, oh to two and then you lose, then
Speaker 2: you go in three.
Speaker 4: Be fair?
Speaker 2: I checked it, did you Okay?
Speaker 4: You guys were like, oh, it's kind of a must one.
Speaker 4: What do you mean it's kind of a must one
Speaker 4: to be on three?
Speaker 2: Why are you yelling?
Speaker 4: Oh no, I wasn't yelling.
Speaker 2: Why is everybody suddenly yelling at me?
Speaker 4: Oh? I would have yelled at you.
Speaker 2: I come in peace, you leave in pieces.
Speaker 4: You coming with the check too? Yeah, so I wouldn't
Speaker 4: disrespect you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, Paul, The Ravens have Dallas, Buffalo and Cincinnati
Speaker 7: the next three.
Speaker 2: Yeow yow yo clip that one, yeah, yow. All right,
Speaker 2: last call for phone calls, what we learn, what's in
Speaker 2: store for tomorrow, and we'll try to accomplish all of that.
Speaker 1: Right after this YOW be sure to catch the live
Speaker 1: edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am
Speaker 1: Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2: Kirk d Cousins is going to join us, I believe
Speaker 2: on the program tomorrow. It's always great to book him
Speaker 2: after he gets a win, so great to have him on.
Speaker 2: Steve Smith Senior is going to join us. He had
Speaker 2: some strong comments about Russell Wilson. So Steve Smith. He's
Speaker 2: one of the few people that we've had who said
Speaker 2: they would come on after the game. They came on
Speaker 2: after the game. It was a Super Bowl loss. Monday morning.
Speaker 2: We had set it up with Steve through PR with Carolina, Hey,
Speaker 2: we want to have Steve on. He honored his commitment,
Speaker 2: came on after a Super Bowl loss. Uh raheem moster
Speaker 2: after the Niners lost in the Super Bowl, and he
Speaker 2: was great. He honored. He said, Hey, I'm still gonna
Speaker 2: come on after the Super Bowl. Yes, Boum.
Speaker 7: The lesson is, if you're an NFL player and we
Speaker 7: asked for you the Thursday before the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Maybe you're just say no, Just say no. And once
Speaker 2: again sa Kwon Barkley, he did reach out to the
Speaker 2: show and say he was sorry that he couldn't join us.
Speaker 2: He just didn't think of the optics are good. He
Speaker 2: was going to be on to promote a product, and
Speaker 2: he made the right decision not to come on. I mean,
Speaker 2: would I'd like to have mon Yes, but I'd like
Speaker 2: to be able to do a full interview with him
Speaker 2: instead of asking him about that third down drop. Uh,
Speaker 2: And he wouldn't be in a very talkative mood. What's
Speaker 2: on the TV tonight? Is there anything?
Speaker 14: Uh?
Speaker 7: A lot of baseball, Yankees, Mariners, Late Night, No, Paul Schimes.
Speaker 4: Show.
Speaker 2: Hey, the Countdown. He's kind of stuck.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Dodgers are the Dodgers, Marlin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, finished up with the Braves. If you want to fall.
Speaker 8: Asleep to something, you got Champions League starting at the
Speaker 8: twelve forty five Eastern first games. Then you've got third
Speaker 8: three o'clock. You got the other games you're going do that?
Speaker 8: New playing PSV Real Madrid, Okay, yeah, Milan Liverpool Big One.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, of course get in on that. Yeah you
Speaker 8: want Yeah, uh, final results of the pole question. Oh,
Speaker 8: we have a Bryce Young game.
Speaker 7: Yes, we got to get this in now.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do that and then see when will give
Speaker 2: me the poll results.
Speaker 7: It's a very simple game.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 7: Newly benched quarterback Bryce Young will have how many more
Speaker 7: starts this season? Closest to the whole wind it? Dan,
Speaker 7: you go last?
Speaker 2: Okay, Todd three, Seaton six and a half. So he'll
Speaker 2: start a game. He won't finish the game. Okay, he'll
Speaker 2: half start a game. Marvin four, Right, Paul, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go none starts, none, none, Ski, I'm gonna go. Bryce
Speaker 2: Young has three more starts, three more starts. Yeah, yes, Todd,
Speaker 2: that was it.
Speaker 4: Because Dalton plays terribly or due.
Speaker 2: To injury, that's not part of the game. I didn't
Speaker 2: have to have any reasoning he was over.
Speaker 8: So they begrudgingly bring him back in because like, well,
Speaker 8: I guess we gotta put Bryce back.
Speaker 2: Let him out there, Andy slow to get up.
Speaker 4: Looks like we're going to Bryce.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Jason and Sacramento. Hi, Jason, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10: Yes?
Speaker 14: I just wanted to me to call about that third
Speaker 14: and three player last night. I don't avoid Shane Irving
Speaker 14: feels me on this one. That play called just week
Speaker 14: of that paperboard looking offensive coordinator Kevin Kellen Moore. As
Speaker 14: Cowboy fans we all know too well. So if you
Speaker 14: guys ever wonder why Shane Irving says run the damn ball,
Speaker 14: that is exactly what.
Speaker 2: All right? Thank you, Jason Well. I liked when they
Speaker 2: could run the ball in Dallas. Now you've got Zeke Elliott.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to be running the ball
Speaker 2: too often. There, Dan in California, Hi Dan, what's on
Speaker 2: your one?
Speaker 6: Hey Dan? Just seen if you anybody want to take
Speaker 6: me up a part of the face back for the
Speaker 6: Patriots beating the Jets this Thursday.
Speaker 2: Oh hate Triots and the Jets.
Speaker 8: Hatriots better than we thought. Question mark quest not even
Speaker 8: a question mark anymore.
Speaker 2: That game is at New York, Is that right? Dan?
Speaker 2: I'll do it since I have the Jets going to
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, so I'll take the Jets in that game.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go, all right, Dan? That's Dan on
Speaker 2: Dan Crime, right, there's what that is? Yeah. Boone in
Speaker 2: New Mexico, Hey Boone, what's on your mind?
Speaker 4: Hey Dan? Five?
Speaker 14: Channel on fifty five got us. I've got kind of
Speaker 14: a random NFL question. Hope you can answer for me.
Speaker 14: Why is it that on the Sunday games they can't
Speaker 14: seem to split them up evenly? Last week we had
Speaker 14: ten mornings, three afternoon. Why can't they do it evenly?
Speaker 2: I don't know that I'd have to talk to a
Speaker 2: TV executive. I never thought of it or asked about it.
Speaker 2: I just figured they front load the one o'clocks. They
Speaker 2: like the standalone games. You don't want to kind of
Speaker 2: cannibalize your game, or if you have another game, you
Speaker 2: want to make sure. You know they Fox and CBS
Speaker 2: get big numbers for those late afternoon games, and you know,
Speaker 2: obviously NBC has the standalone game on Sunday night. Yeah, Paulin,
Speaker 2: your answer is correct.
Speaker 7: It's mostly about making three or four games national TV
Speaker 7: games on the thrice networks.
Speaker 2: This day in sports history, Paul.
Speaker 7: Got a couple for you. The American Professional Football Association
Speaker 7: was formed in Kanton, Ohio. It's now called the NFL.
Speaker 7: Nineteen sixty one, the Minnesota Vikings made their debut in
Speaker 7: the NFL.
Speaker 2: You like this one, Dan? That was fran Tarkington who
Speaker 2: made his debut and he threw four touchdown passes against
Speaker 2: the Bears.
Speaker 7: Topper nineteen eighty three. Johnny Bench may have heard him
Speaker 7: of the Cincinnati Reds retired after sixteen years as a catcher.
Speaker 7: He may be first ballot of who's the best blank
Speaker 7: of all time? And you name a position in baseball,
Speaker 7: don't you think he's up there?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think there are guys who if you're going to
Speaker 2: combine everything, he changed the game. He changed the way
Speaker 2: catchers catch a game. And I just think power numbers.
Speaker 2: He was in, you know, clutch guy. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you go, well, Pudge Rodriguez, there are questions
Speaker 2: about Pudge and you know there's a few catchers in there.
Speaker 2: That and Yogi Barrow won all those World Series, Roy
Speaker 2: Campanell that there's so many, you know, great catchers. I
Speaker 2: think Johnny was the full package there of what you
Speaker 2: expected wanted out of a catcher. And you know he
Speaker 2: was handling a pitching staff. I don't know if catchers
Speaker 2: necessarily do that anymore, Todd would you learn today.
Speaker 4: Passing touchdowns through two weeks is down eighty six last year,
Speaker 4: only sixty nine this season.
Speaker 2: Seton o'cunnor, Bryce Young, run maybe over.
Speaker 4: Marvin Salpeal Lows Tree, Lance.
Speaker 7: Paul tough day for Sa Kwanba. He's a class act.
Speaker 2: What we learned brough't you by Express Employment Professionals providing
Speaker 2: the workforce you need. With Express All, lower your labor costs,
Speaker 2: reduced turnover. Go to expresspros dot com. Find the location
Speaker 2: here you nearest you, near you, that's Express Pros. Come.
Speaker 2: Have a great day, everybody, Talk to you tomorrow.