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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome. It's Texans Radio Texans All Access

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Speaker 1: here from the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. Mark Vandermer with

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Speaker 1: you with the General John McClaine from the Houston Chronicle

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Speaker 1: our Thursday visit General. How's it going, Mark, It's so

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Speaker 1: great outside with record breaking heat. It makes me long

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Speaker 1: for the Greenbrier in West Virginia and that weather we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get at the end of July. I didn't realize

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Speaker 1: it was record breaking for this time. I believe I

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Speaker 1: heard last night it was like one hundred and thirteen

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Speaker 1: year high today. Really, well, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 1: It's Texas, it's hot, it's hot. We gotta get over

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Speaker 1: at Troy Aegman said one time when it's like one

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Speaker 1: hundred and ten in Dallas, he said, when he gets

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Speaker 1: one hundred, you can't tell the difference. I think you can.

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Speaker 1: I think when it's one ten that it drops down

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Speaker 1: to a hundred, it's oh, that feels so much cooler.

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Speaker 1: I can only tell the difference in the humidity. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess my glasses. Do I walk outside, my glasses

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Speaker 1: fog up, or when I opened the door to they

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Speaker 1: fog giveaway. I've been here my whole life, and uh,

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Speaker 1: there's no place I would rather live unless it was

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Speaker 1: Pacific Heights and said Francisco. And I was a multi

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Speaker 1: multi mul there. Yeah, because you need that mega multi

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Speaker 1: millionaire stuff to go along with living in Pacific Heights. Apparently,

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Speaker 1: unless you're Michael Keaton was at him in that movie.

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Speaker 1: He was in the movie. Also, Missus Doubtfire was in

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Speaker 1: Pacific Contege. Oh. Yeah, there have been several movies that

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Speaker 1: have filmed there because it's such an incredible view looking

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Speaker 1: down to go with take Bridge and Alcatraz. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think that's the most beautiful city in America. I think

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Speaker 1: Houston's the best place to live in America. I honestly

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Speaker 1: believe that. I've lived in six different states. I love

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Speaker 1: Boston just because it's my first love affair with the city.

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Speaker 1: I love New York too. These are great places to

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Speaker 1: visit to live there. Now, Okay it is, And I'll

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Speaker 1: ask the listeners to think about this, right, if money

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Speaker 1: was not an issue, and you could live one place

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Speaker 1: in one place only where, what city would it be

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Speaker 1: and what part of the city would it be in

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Speaker 1: wine Well, honestly, it's tough for me because I love

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Speaker 1: being the voice of a team and I want to

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Speaker 1: be the voice of this here. You couldn't have it

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Speaker 1: kind of money and be the voice of the team

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Speaker 1: unless you've got a piece of the ownership and you're

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Speaker 1: not so just pertend months you've hit the lottery and

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Speaker 1: you can do anything. Go anywhere. Mine would be Pacific

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Speaker 1: Heights in San Francisco. Well, not to raise kids. But

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Speaker 1: I still love Miami, I really do. I love Miami

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Speaker 1: as a place to live where an adults. I love

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Speaker 1: living in Miami, not Brower, not Fort Lauderdale, none of that.

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Speaker 1: I want to live in Miami, maybe a high rise

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Speaker 1: on Brickle or something like that overlooking Biscayne Bay and

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Speaker 1: take out a starboat and sail that in regattas and stuff.

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Speaker 1: I would love to do that. But I don't want

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Speaker 1: to give up being the voice of the team because

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Speaker 1: this is what I got a right, all right. So

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Speaker 1: that's where you would live in Miami, and I would

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Speaker 1: live in Pacific I think so. I think so. But honestly,

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Speaker 1: my life is so tied into my career like a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, but this is what I do for fun.

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Speaker 1: You know, A lot of people say I love to

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Speaker 1: do this. I have that hobby. This is my hobby.

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Speaker 1: This is what I do for fun, and this is

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Speaker 1: what I want to do. Bobby exercize what I would

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Speaker 1: do if I was loaded, which I'll never be. Well,

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Speaker 1: you never know, John, what about Hey, have you written

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Speaker 1: a book? Am I just asking you this right now?

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Speaker 1: After all these years, I've never written a book. Did

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Speaker 1: you have a feeling that you wanted to? Never? Really

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Speaker 1: Only a couple of people have written sports book sports

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Speaker 1: bugs that actually made money, I see, and that was

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Speaker 1: like John Feinstein when he wrote about Bobby Knight, maybe

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Speaker 1: when he did the golf a Good Walk Spoil, which

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Speaker 1: is a great title. But not many sports books make money.

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Speaker 1: They give you the initial advance, that's it, and that's it.

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Speaker 1: They get him published, but they just don't make money.

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Speaker 1: Like Dan Jenkins bugs his or fiction, but he bases

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Speaker 1: So I might think about something like that. I was

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Speaker 1: of golf books by him. He's phenomenal. Also wrote, wasn't

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Speaker 1: sem tough? Sem tough? Yep? Yeah, I got a rating

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Speaker 1: sem tough. When the whole thing is sem tough. You're

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Speaker 1: talking about a ten, a woman who's a ten, like

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Speaker 1: Mot Derek was a ten. They had Jill Claiber as

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Speaker 1: good point, John boy. We could talk movies all day.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this though. Ota start next week for

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, and they had the rookie camp last

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Speaker 1: guys and look, you're not seeing a whole a lot

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Speaker 1: of rookies against rookies. But I liked seeing Kiki Qt

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Speaker 1: I thought he was a physical specimen. What are your

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Speaker 1: It's just a snapshot. They're really fired up about qts

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Speaker 1: A Kiki QT correct, not Kiki QT. No. They loved

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Speaker 1: the way he ran routes, his explosiveness, the way he

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Speaker 1: made quick cuts. Now, he ran a lot of routes

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Speaker 1: Jordan Thomas, who played, said he played at two eighty

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Speaker 1: But the first two picks and then Jordan naked the

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Speaker 1: tight end we can catch. I wrote a thing that's

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Speaker 1: on our website, takes a sports Nation and Jordan Naken's

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Speaker 1: You know, Steven's a tight end. He not a big blocker,

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Speaker 1: only time Sammy Coats and Andre Johnson are mentioned in

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Speaker 1: Coats was real fast yea. And but he was cut

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Speaker 1: every year in the league. Ellington is a fourth round pick.

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Speaker 1: He made big plays last year. Boom gets hurt. Braxton

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Speaker 1: the former University of Miami quarterback. To me, this looks

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Speaker 1: like an Ota arm, you know, because Watson can't do

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Speaker 1: everything in the eleven on eleven and then some and yeah,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Wheedon, I don't know how many quarterback reps Joe

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Speaker 1: Webb was slated to get. Maybe a lot, maybe not

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Speaker 1: that many because they want him to do some other

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Speaker 1: things as well, and maybe he just doesn't have the

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Speaker 1: time to spend. So Morris makes sense to me to

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Speaker 1: fill in the gap there. I asked a guy was

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Speaker 1: with two days ago who was bemoaning Brandon Wheedon, and

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Speaker 1: I said, well, let me ask you if the Texans

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Speaker 1: had a chance to get a backup quarterback. And the

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Speaker 1: last time he played, he won two games. He had

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Speaker 1: three touchdowns passing no interceptions. His rating was one oh

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Speaker 1: seven and he ran one and he ranford touchdown. So

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Speaker 1: that's touchdowns in two games, no turnovers, and you won

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Speaker 1: a game that you never won before. Do you want him? Yeah? Right,

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Speaker 1: that's a good point. That's a great way to bring

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Speaker 1: it up. Yeah, it's been so long since Waden's played

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Speaker 1: and they say he's thirty four, and he was a

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Speaker 1: number one pick and and but the last time anybody

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Speaker 1: saw Brandon Waedon play he played pretty well, beating yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Colts and was it the Titans? So the Jaguar

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Speaker 1: Titans up there, both on the road, So that says

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Speaker 1: something he fits in well. He's kind of a gamer

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Speaker 1: on this team anyway. And you bring up thirty four,

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Speaker 1: not a lot of football mileage on him really, because

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Speaker 1: he had the baseball career going, he had Oklahoma State going,

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Speaker 1: and in the NFL, you know, he hasn't played a

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Speaker 1: ton actually, so that's a good thing in a way.

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Speaker 1: And he's a tremendous athlete. And by the way, meeting

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Speaker 1: Joe Webb, I mean, Joe Webb is going to any

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Speaker 1: time people interview him, people watching that stuff are they're

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Speaker 1: gonna love it because he's got an infectious personality. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how he fits in here. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how they're gonna use him. We'll hear more next week

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Speaker 1: for Bill O'Brien, but I'm looking forward to seeing whatever

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Speaker 1: they do with him. I think it's an exciting prospect.

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Speaker 1: He's played receiver, he's played special teams. He's a mobile quarterback.

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Speaker 1: If they wanted to emulate Watson, he would be good.

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Speaker 1: People forget Weeden's pretty good, pretty mobile too. Brandon spent

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Speaker 1: all that time with Watson last year, and he knows

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Speaker 1: O'Brien's system inside out. And he's not a guy like

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Speaker 1: Flacco and Roethlisberger who's not gonna help. And he helped

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Speaker 1: Watson a lot. And I heard Brandon was really surprised

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Speaker 1: and upset when he got cut. You know, he spent

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Speaker 1: a year with the Titans. He ended up going to

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Speaker 1: the second round of the playoffs, but he loved it

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Speaker 1: here and I'm glad he put it behind him and

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Speaker 1: came back because he just seems kind of like an

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Speaker 1: ideal fit. He certainly does all right defensively. John Zach

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Speaker 1: Cunningham put him in the spotlight for a moment here.

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Speaker 1: Going into year two, he's put on some weight, about

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Speaker 1: ten pounds, and he's one of those linebackers who can

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Speaker 1: run and cover, and he played a lot last year,

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Speaker 1: So he's one of those guys that will be focusing

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Speaker 1: on for a year one to year or two jump status.

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Speaker 1: According to the coaches. Usually rookies start to tell off

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season, and you know the

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Speaker 1: Texans said, nowhere to go, But instead Cunningham got better.

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Speaker 1: He got better. It was no if there was a

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Speaker 1: rookie wall, he crashed through it and he improved his coverage.

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Speaker 1: Remember when he got abused in the preseason by New England,

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Speaker 1: but they abuse a lot and he got better. And

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Speaker 1: then of course McKinney's their leading tackler. And you think

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Speaker 1: the key is is Romeo Crenell gonna put Clowney back

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Speaker 1: at end in the base three man front or is

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Speaker 1: he going to leave him a linebacker and let him

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Speaker 1: drop down and rush from the right side. The answer

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Speaker 1: might be yes to both right. So if if he

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Speaker 1: goes down, then uh we got Watton Reader. But they

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Speaker 1: said Brandon Dunne played really well the last season because

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Speaker 1: Reader was able to move to end and then and

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Speaker 1: then read Cuvington and what rollo now are But Dunn

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Speaker 1: played well. You wonder can he pick up where he

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Speaker 1: left off? And so if Clowney is a linebacker, the

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Speaker 1: linebackers are set. If he drops down in the base defense,

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Speaker 1: who's going to be the linebacker? Brinan Scarlet becauld. One

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Speaker 1: of these draft choices I don't think they're gonna win

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Speaker 1: that job. Romeo's defense is too complicated. You missed mentioned

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Speaker 1: Peter calumby Callumbai and then I like Duke Kedge for

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Speaker 1: right now he's making a transition from end outside linebackers,

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Speaker 1: so his head's gonna be spinning. But they need depth

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Speaker 1: at those positions. And but the front seven will help

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Speaker 1: the secondary so much if those guys can stay reasonably healthy. Well,

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Speaker 1: I feel like we talk about it every week, but

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Speaker 1: that secondary, we're talking about position group competitions. That secondary

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Speaker 1: competition is gonna be something you know when you look

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Speaker 1: at safety, when you look at the corners and who's

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Speaker 1: gonna play where. I think it will be very fun

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Speaker 1: to spot how the coaches handle this and where they

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Speaker 1: put who just to try people out in certain spots.

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Speaker 1: You got your three top three safeties, and in corner

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Speaker 1: you got Colvin and Johnson, Jonathan Joseph and Kareem Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Tresden Decu of course moved to safety. So Jonathan Joseph

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Speaker 1: has never not been a starter. He's thirty four years old.

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Speaker 1: They signed him to a new contract. It would be

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Speaker 1: so weird to see him out there and not starting.

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Speaker 1: But if Colvin is the starter with sake Kevin Johnson,

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Speaker 1: then that means Kareem Jackson and Jonathan would come off

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Speaker 1: the bench, the two most senior members of the secondary.

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Speaker 1: If Colvin plays in a slot with Joseph and Johnson outside,

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Speaker 1: where does Kareem go? Because Kareem's been a slot receiver

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Speaker 1: and every year Jonathan gets nicked up a little, Kareem

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Speaker 1: gets nicked up a little, Kevin Johnson gets nicked up

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Speaker 1: a lot, and Colvin has been healthy with the Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: so they I feel good that the Texans are in

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Speaker 1: so much better shape there because I believe not. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you do too. Anthony Midget is going to have

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Speaker 1: a really good effect on Kevin Johnson, and so is

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Speaker 1: Luke Richison because Kevin is a workout fiend, a workout warrior,

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Speaker 1: and I would imagine he's going to be in here

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Speaker 1: long after everybody's gone an offseason program like he was

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Speaker 1: last year working with Luke Richison, and so I think

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Speaker 1: he'll bounce back and have a good season. They showed

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Speaker 1: a lot of confidence in him by picking up the

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Speaker 1: fifth yeer option, and now he's got to reward that

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Speaker 1: faith and if he can stay healthy, he'll be able

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Speaker 1: to do it. The General stays with us. We'll go

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Speaker 1: around the league next. More info on the Texans and

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Speaker 1: this on the Cults. Why are they having trouble selling tickets?

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Speaker 1: I've got my theory. Will discuss on Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: John McLean, the General from the Houston Chronicle, joining us

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Speaker 1: on Texans All Access tonight. Let's go around in the

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Speaker 1: league a bit and as it affects the Texans. Some

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00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: stories around the National Football League and beyond. First of all, General,

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Speaker 1: the big story this week about the Supreme Corps and

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00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: the ruling. I'm gambling and sports, and obviously the people

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Speaker 1: in New Jersey are excited a lot of other states

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Speaker 1: as well. Your take on this decision. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I believe I saw Bob McNair turning cartwheels, went down

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Speaker 1: River Roaks Boulevard, saw Jim Crane turning cartwheels around Minute

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Speaker 1: May Park. Tell them and Fatida turning cartwheels and Landrys

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Speaker 1: because the value of their franchises is going to skyrocket.

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Speaker 1: The problem is this, and this is adult interesting for Fatida.

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Speaker 1: We are in an ultra conservative state run by ultra

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Speaker 1: conservative Republicans. They have there's been so many lobbies to

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Speaker 1: try to get casino gambling here. They know the tax money,

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Speaker 1: what they could do with it. Instead, all our money's

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Speaker 1: going to Louisiana, Oklahoma, and it's just amazing how much

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Speaker 1: of our money goes to surrounding states. And they have

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Speaker 1: a strong lobby. So we had two great stories in

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Speaker 1: a chronicle about I can't remember who the expert was.

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Speaker 1: He said, tofu will become the offici usual food of

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Speaker 1: Texas instead of chili before they're gonna lie sports gambling

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Speaker 1: in our state, because that's just the way we are.

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Speaker 1: It took forever to get horse racing, decades of lobbying

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Speaker 1: for it, and John Lopez and I disagreed. He thinks

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Speaker 1: it'll come quicker than I do. And I'm thinking maybe

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Speaker 1: in five years and the kids will the NFL go

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Speaker 1: forward on statewide level if some teams can do it

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Speaker 1: and some like Texas cannot. And now for Tita has

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Speaker 1: the golden nugget, and like Charles, it is packed with

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Speaker 1: people from Texas and Houston. Now, if you cannot gamble

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Speaker 1: in Texas, think Tillman's gonna have to build two more

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Speaker 1: right next door to get all those people from Houston.

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Speaker 1: It's two hours to go there and gamble on the

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Speaker 1: NFL legally every weekend. So he's got the rockets that

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Speaker 1: if it was gambling in Texas, people would be gambling

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Speaker 1: on it, and instead, I just think it'll be a while.

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Speaker 1: Peter King brought up some intersteam points. Does every team

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Speaker 1: have to hire a gambling expert to make sure everything

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Speaker 1: everybody knows the rules? Do players and coaches get to gamble?

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Speaker 1: Do you get to gamble? Teams gonna nobody gambles? You know,

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Speaker 1: it could be you don't gamble on your team, but

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Speaker 1: I don't do it. But I don't think I'm allowed

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Speaker 1: to anyway as a team employee. Yeah, I don't because

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00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: you know, you can smoke potton Colorado, but it's still

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Speaker 1: against the NFL rules. If you get caught, you get busted.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of ramifications here before it's going

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Speaker 1: to be implemented. But man on man, when it all

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Speaker 1: is normal, say five or six years from now, the

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Speaker 1: money that's gonna be coming in. Wow, all right, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna look at Temper and Carolina and go, man, what

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Speaker 1: a great Deally guy. Remember when everybody said that there

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Speaker 1: was crazy to pay so much money for a franc

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Speaker 1: seven hundred million, that's nothing, that's a that's a discount.

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Speaker 1: Seven hundred million, easy money. All of that in the

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Speaker 1: next five to ten years, it's gonna be and Mark

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Speaker 1: Cuban said double, Every franchise will double. Could be conservative. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's amazing. Now when we bring up Bob mcnarre's seven

607
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: hundred million in nineteen ninety nine, it was right. That

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00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: was when the franchise was awarded to Houston. Officially didn't

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Speaker 1: start play until two thousand and two, but at the

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Speaker 1: time there was a ton of money for a franchise.

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Speaker 1: It was because LA wasn't willing to pony up that

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Speaker 1: kind of cash and they didn't have the infrastructure dome.

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Speaker 1: That's why I think no matter what you pay for

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Speaker 1: a franchise today, especially in the NFL, the value is

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Speaker 1: just going to keep going up. It's a great real

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Speaker 1: estate and gambling. Now. You imagine sitting at a seat

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Speaker 1: at the Texans game at halftime and you pull out

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Speaker 1: your phoness. Okay, the odds of Hopkins being the first

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Speaker 1: guy to score a touchdown, or which quarterbacks gonna throw

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Speaker 1: the quickest interset Boys second half point spread? You know,

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Speaker 1: people are gonna be sitting there. You know, there's advertising

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Speaker 1: is gonna go up, sponsorships are gonna go up, and

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Speaker 1: the TV ratings now because maybe people are gambling and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna watch the games more than TV ratings should

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Speaker 1: go up. I just wish more people were employed as

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Speaker 1: a result of all this money being pushed around. The

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Speaker 1: bookies will be out of work. Yeah, they'll have to

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Speaker 1: get jobs somewhere. Yeah, so that's tough on them, all right.

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Speaker 1: More on the way here from around the league, including

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Speaker 1: the cults. A story came out there CEOO talking about

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Speaker 1: why they've had difficulty getting season ticket renewals from eighty

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Speaker 1: seven out of eighty two, and he's sighted a bunch

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Speaker 1: of things. I'm gonna say this, though, the uncertainty about

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck's health has as much to do with it

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Speaker 1: as anything else. Yeah, they've had a couple of bad

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Speaker 1: seasons in a row, particularly last year, but the doubt

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Speaker 1: around Andrew Luck and they're still doubt. I guess a

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Speaker 1: lot of people feel like he will be available for

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Speaker 1: this year. But what are your thoughts on this subject? John?

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think if Andrew is a

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Speaker 1: if he could say he could play a couple of

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Speaker 1: times in preseason will look good. I think that would

643
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Speaker 1: encourage people to buy some more. But they don't want

644
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Speaker 1: to see bad football, you know, the techs killer. They

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Speaker 1: all love to see Jacobe Perzette when he's playing against

646
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Speaker 1: the mass but he's not going to sell any tickets.

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Speaker 1: And so most NFL teams are immune to that. They

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Speaker 1: sell the season tickets. Fans may not show up when

649
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Speaker 1: a team's bad, but they buy the tickets and eighty

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Speaker 1: two percent, you know, did they say what they are

651
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Speaker 1: in irregular years? And I think you're deaf of the

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Speaker 1: nineties when they were really going good. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: talking about a team that went to an AFC championship

654
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Speaker 1: game a few years ago. Well, Jim Murs say, sure,

655
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: happy about the gambling man? And there we go back

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Speaker 1: to that story Out of Dallas one hundred point three

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Speaker 1: The Fan, a sister station of our flagship sports video

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Speaker 1: six to ten, As taryll Owen says he's surprised that

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett hasn't been fired yet. Your thoughts on that,

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Speaker 1: First of all, I don't give a ranch, you know

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Speaker 1: what what taryll Owen says, any like Jason Wait, and

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Speaker 1: said on a podcast he thinks Dez Brian will be

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Speaker 1: with the Packers. Who cares so all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: that you moongus news and that comes out packers are

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Speaker 1: not interested. I keep seeing Gamblers and Webb or Vegas

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Speaker 1: odds have had Dez Bryant coming here more than any

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Speaker 1: other team. Not gonna happen, and so TiO. I don't

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Speaker 1: know why anybody would care what TiO said, and it

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Speaker 1: certainly Jason Garrett doesn't. All right, now, what about the

670
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Speaker 1: report that came out earlier that the Cleveland Browns will

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Speaker 1: be this year? Is Hard Knocks good? I tweeted that

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Speaker 1: I thought, I tweeted memo the Browns and their media

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Speaker 1: enjoy it. I thought Hard Knocks was a piece of cake.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was fun, had a great time. You know.

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Speaker 1: The people weren't obtrusive, they were polite and professional, and

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Speaker 1: I was freaked out about it. I was worried that

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Speaker 1: they were gonna get all these inside stories we had

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Speaker 1: no access to. And the only thing they had that

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Speaker 1: I wish i'd had was when Rick Smith met with

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Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett after he was late and talked to him,

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Speaker 1: and that was it. And so the media, and I

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Speaker 1: understand I was that way. You worry about getting scooped

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Speaker 1: by HBO, but it just doesn't happen. The only thing

684
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Speaker 1: you gotta worry about. Some teams have gone hard Knocks

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Speaker 1: don't do well, like Tampa A great example. I probably bugs.

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Speaker 1: I watched hard I've watched every hard Docks and I

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Speaker 1: watched him last year while we were trading camp and

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Speaker 1: West Virginia, and I picked him to win the division

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Speaker 1: this year. I'm not gonna pick Cleveland win the division,

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Speaker 1: no matter how impressed I am in hard Docks, right,

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Speaker 1: that would be a bad idea, John. With the NBA

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Speaker 1: Playoffs going on, a lot of talk about Lebron James

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Speaker 1: and is he the greatest player ever? And all of

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Speaker 1: that tell me something. Compare and contrast Tom Brady Lebron James,

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Speaker 1: who will go down in history as the better player

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Speaker 1: in their sport. Tom Brady's the greatest quarterback of all time.

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Speaker 1: I don't say anybody could dispute it. And there I

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Speaker 1: would say Michael Jordan's better than Lebron. Really, I've watched

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Speaker 1: both of them, and he won six championships. And if

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Speaker 1: he hadn't quit two years to go to baseball. Rocket

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Speaker 1: fans don't want to hear this, But I say he

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Speaker 1: could have won two more. Could have say would but

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Speaker 1: he could have and so and he was a great player,

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Speaker 1: and and Lebron's a great player. But I you know,

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Speaker 1: Jordan won more championships. He played with better players too.

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Speaker 1: And what I'd like to see after this season is

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Speaker 1: for the Rockets to go after Lebron. When he tells

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Speaker 1: the Calves, buy back, When you grew up in Waco,

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Speaker 1: how did you regard basketball? What kind of fan? Where

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Speaker 1: we used to I love basketball? He used to come

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Speaker 1: on tape delay and we go out in the backyard

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Speaker 1: and pretend we were Clyde Frasier and Earl to Pearl.

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Speaker 1: And I watched the ABA and if players shot left

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Speaker 1: handed like artist Gilmore, I'd shoot left handed. And then

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Speaker 1: when I was playing like I was the Lakers as

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Speaker 1: Gil Goodrich, I'd shoot left handed. Nineteen seventy one, when

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Speaker 1: the Lakers had their great season and won a championship,

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Speaker 1: they played the Rockets played home game in Waco and

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Speaker 1: San Antonio as well as here. To try to spread interest,

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Speaker 1: they just moved here and I went and watched Elvin

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Speaker 1: Hayes and the Rockets beat the Lakers in the heart

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Speaker 1: of Texas collism. I didn't love the NBA like I

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Speaker 1: love the NFL and baseball. But if you saw me

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Speaker 1: out in the driveway shaking and bacon, you might have

725
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: been mistaken for Mike. What is Earl of Pearl doing

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00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: in Waco? So in Boston, I used to eat at

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Speaker 1: this diner almost every day for a stretch, and one

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Speaker 1: day I'm sitting there and this large man comes in

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Speaker 1: and sits down next to me at the counter, and

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Speaker 1: it's artist Gilmore, who was spending his last year with

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Speaker 1: the Celtics, and he was I mean, it was just

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Speaker 1: electric sitting next to artist Gilmore, and I didn't say

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Speaker 1: a word. I was just fanboy back then. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: even in the business at that point. I was in

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Speaker 1: the media sales side of the business, but that one

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Speaker 1: always stood out to me. And he was staying in

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Speaker 1: a little kind of a dive motel where the Celtics

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Speaker 1: used to put up their ten day contract guys, and

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Speaker 1: he was staying there. But this was life of the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Even after all those years, I used to pretend I

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Speaker 1: was also Bill Russell, Sam Jones. I put a toothpack

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Speaker 1: played with a toothpeak in my mouth. Hal Greer, who

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Speaker 1: died a couple of weeks ago, I never saw any

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Speaker 1: story that poured it out. He shot jump shots for

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Speaker 1: his free throws, and so when I'd be how greered

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Speaker 1: have to shoot jump shot free throws? And I didn't

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Speaker 1: make them nearly as consistently as he did. But we

748
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: used to have a blast watching the NBA. But it

749
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: was so weird. The playoffs were tape delay. Yeah, tape delayed.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Well, we did see it watching Oscar

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00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: robertson average a triple double for a season. They didn't

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00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 1: call it that, And wasn't that big a deal? Watching

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Speaker 1: Jerry West Elgin Baylor and doing a finger roll like

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Speaker 1: Wilt Chamberlain, and it was. It was so much fun.

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Speaker 1: Just like Will John, what do you have going out

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Speaker 1: of the chronicle. I have a column on Sunday about

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Speaker 1: the Texans getting ready for OTAs on our Texas Sports Nation,

758
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: which you can get t XSN dot com. And I

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00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: have a thing tomorrow about the offensive line changes we

760
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: can expect things that are going on after the rookie

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Speaker 1: minicamp and what they want to accomplish Aaron Wilson's got

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Speaker 1: some stories, so we will have quite a bit. Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. As always, Well, there he is the

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Speaker 1: general McClain. I could talk about that stuff forever. Who's

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Speaker 1: the best basketball player ever? Who's the best football player ever?

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Speaker 1: These debates are impossible to really resolve, but they're fun. Right.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has an opinion, and I get asked about this.

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Speaker 1: You know who you're rooting for. I've said this before.

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Speaker 1: In the NBA playoffs, I actually root for Lebron until

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Speaker 1: he would play the Rockets, of course, but Lebron to

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Speaker 1: me in Cleveland is compelling, and I root for him there.

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Speaker 1: Lebron in Miami rooted for him to lose every time.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. It's just one of

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Speaker 1: those things. I didn't like the way he went to Miami.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it was his right to go to Miami.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to open up that debate, but certain

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Speaker 1: football players you root for and against no matter what

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Speaker 1: the situation is. Like Tom Brady, I root for him

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Speaker 1: never unless it's going to help the Texans, unless he's

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Speaker 1: playing the Jaguars Titans calls that kind of thing, or

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00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: you need another team to lose for some reason. I

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00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: can't remember a situation where that's really come up. I

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00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: would root for them to lose in every other situation.

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Speaker 1: It's just that way, and I respect him, I like him, actually,

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Speaker 1: but I want him to lose because they're the enemy.

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Speaker 1: They're the villain, They're the evil empire. And I'm sure

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00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: many of you feel the same way. I remember this

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00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: in the two thousand and five college football season National

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00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: Championship and the Aggies I asked them on the air,

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Speaker 1: are you rooting for the Longhorns in the National Championship game?

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00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: In that epic game against USC and many Aggie said yes,

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Speaker 1: because they're from Texas. I cannot imagine rooting for the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys unless, again, it was going to help the Texans

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Speaker 1: some way. Right like this year, the Cowboys are going

795
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Speaker 1: to play the Jaguars, the Titans, and the Colts. Are

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Speaker 1: you going to root for the AFC South team because

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00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: you hate the Cowboys? And I know not everybody listening

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00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: hates the Cowboys. I get that, Or are you going

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Speaker 1: to root for the Cowboys in those games? I will

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Speaker 1: actually root for Dallas in those games. I will because

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00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: it's going to help the Texans in every other game,

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00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm rooting against Dallas again unless the Texans need the

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00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys to beat an AFC opponent for whatever reason. It's

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Speaker 1: just one of those things about sports, and it's fun

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00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: to discuss. And we have to end the discussion right

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Speaker 1: now because Go Lot at Night is next tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: Johnny Harris back in the chair and I'll be on

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Speaker 1: the show as well, and we'll have a Texan or

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00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 1: two on the program. A lot of interviews coming away

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00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: in the next few weeks. Is OTAs get rolling next week.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Eddie for producing. Thank you John McClain for

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Speaker 1: being on. Thank you for listening. This show will be

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Speaker 1: on tune in, it'll be up there on iTunes and

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Speaker 1: everywhere else you like podcasts, and there are the other

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Speaker 1: Texans podcasts up there as well. Thanks for listening. Have

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Speaker 1: a great night, Go Texans.