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Speaker 1: So we're back to the start and the ex playing

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Speaker 1: the final, at least i'd I've done sounding pretty cool

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00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: because that was an amazing shot and when I needed

433
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: to and proved to myself that, hey, you know, um,

434
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: something that you worried about is not not thinking that

435
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: maybe you had in you to do it when you

436
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: needed to. And I certainly sort of proved that to

437
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: myself on on that golf shot. So that was pretty cool.

438
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 1: So now he's in the final match and his opponent

439
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 1: Money Scousel, who's also English, is someone who he's very

440
00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: familiar with. It was. It was difficult mainly because I

441
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: knew I knew Monty. You know, he is a friend

442
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: of mine, and I don't just say that because we

443
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: ended up playing each other. He you know, we shared

444
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: a hotel room in Bahrain, but we went and played

445
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: a golf tournament there and the end of two thousand nineteen,

446
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: and we played a lot of university golf together because

447
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: he went to Exeter and um, so we ended up

448
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: playing a lot of tourmance together and money Scousle of Suffolk,

449
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: as Laird said, attended University of Exeter, where he was

450
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: the captain of his team. Hello Monty, Hi, Matt, Matt

451
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: Janella here, how are you good? Thank you? How are

452
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: you pleasure meeting you? Thank you so much for taking

453
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: some time and sharing your side of a story here. Yeah,

454
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: no worries. Thank thanks for having me on. He's about

455
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: a year older than Laird, came in ranked even higher

456
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 1: than Shepherd, and has had his own set of health

457
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: challenges and circumstances that have provided perspective for such a

458
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 1: young life. What I was about five years old, I

459
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: had a nasty illness called Sidion's career, which was a

460
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: bacterial infection that attacked my brain um and actually lost

461
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: control the left side of my body for quite a while.

462
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,959
Speaker 1: They couldn't really work out what it was the doctors

463
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: here in the UK, and they thought it might have

464
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: been a stroke or maybe a brain hemorrhage or something

465
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: along those lines, which was pretty scary for my parents

466
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: at the time, obviously, And it wasn't till an Indian

467
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: doctor came along and um and identified what it was,

468
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: which was Sydnon's career as they have a lot of

469
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: cases over in India, but it's not very common here

470
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: in UK or or you know, in more developed countries.

471
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: So um that that that basically meant I had to

472
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: be on penicillin for about until I was eighteen. Actually,

473
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,959
Speaker 1: um is it's a childhood illness. Um. So you know,

474
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: even to this day if I'm ill, I tend to

475
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: have quite a sort of shaky or sore left side

476
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: of the body. Um. But fortunately it hasn't hasn't affected

477
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: any of my sort of I guess sort of sequencing

478
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: or you know, neurological pathways to my body. So I

479
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: spoke to Jeremy scoutle Monte's father, who's a lawyer in England.

480
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 1: You know, he turned out to be fine. His heart

481
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: was fine, but clearly as you can imagine as a

482
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: as a father yourself, how how distressing it was at

483
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: the time, but he was amazing as a as a

484
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: as a patient actually matter at the time he was

485
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: he was we could have been proud of her. Then

486
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: you know, all sorts of medical things that had to

487
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: be done to him, and I used to cringe and

488
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: sort of you know, needing to turn away sometimes, but

489
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 1: he was just he just went through it all with

490
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, his smiling sort of in a smiling way

491
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: and said, I'll be all right there and I'll be

492
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: all right mom. Like Shepherd Money, Scousel is an ambitious

493
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: self starter with the determined work ethic. It's absolutely him

494
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: and I never have to tell him to do anything.

495
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: He's he goes to the range. We're fortunate enough we

496
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: haven't swing studio up in our in our roof at

497
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: home here, um, and he's up there pretty much every day.

498
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: He's in the gym pretty much every day. And he's

499
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: out on the golf course. Um. You know, during during

500
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: the lockdown with the COVID and what I have You

501
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: was on, he was having lessons by video with his coach. Um.

502
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: I've never I've never actually had to push him do anything.

503
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: It's it's it's very much in him. You know. He

504
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: just wants to do it and he wants to get better.

505
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: It's funny one because my dad, you know, he still

506
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: works full time and he tries to take off a

507
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: couple of weeks to come and support me at big

508
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: championships like like the Amateur or you know the English

509
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: Amateur or those sorts of tournaments. Um. And he's candied

510
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: for me before, but quite unsuccessfully at times. We haven't

511
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: necessarily seen idam eye out there various occasions where things

512
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: have happened, you know, he's passing me the putter head

513
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: cover rather than the actual putter and all sorts of

514
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You know what I said to him

515
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: about three weeks ago, I said, I will carry for

516
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: you at the bridge am uh, and I will um

517
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: get rid of all distractions. Are literally left work and

518
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: said I'm not contacting anybody. And so for the whole

519
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: week I was actually there and I think that's what

520
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: he needed, and that's what that I think, with the

521
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: distractions taken out of my life and enabled them to

522
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,719
Speaker 1: really concentrate on being a good caddy for him. And

523
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: he was. He was brilliant out there. You know, it

524
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: was um. It was great having his support, especially in

525
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: the early rounds where the guys are playing didn't have

526
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: a caddy or they necessarily because of COVID restrictions, they

527
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: didn't have anyone watching. UM, So having that presence of

528
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: him there I think actually really helped. And and he

529
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: was great at you know, talking through different shots and um,

530
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: and ultimately match played. It's all about just keeping the

531
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: pressure on your opponent, and with him there, I felt

532
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: that I was able to do that, you know pretty well.

533
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: I asked Monty for some memories of Laird Shepherd. So

534
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: the first time I met lad he was at Stirling University.

535
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: I was Exeter. We had a knockout match, so it

536
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: was match place six of their best against six of ours.

537
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: And at the time they had a very you know,

538
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: they were they were by far the best team in

539
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: in the UK. Um they had a number of players

540
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: on their team who who have not since played Walker

541
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: Cup and there on the challenge in European tour Um

542
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: And actually I got drawn against lad Um to to

543
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: play against him, and he was I was in my

544
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: second year at the time at Exetern he was in

545
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: his first year and I knew nothing about him. But

546
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: all I know is that he was brilliant golf. I

547
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: think he was six up with six to play and

548
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: I think I lost two in one of the end.

549
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: But it was he was very, very talented. I could

550
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: tell he was a good player but also a really

551
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: nice guy. And that was actually the first time I

552
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: met him, so that must have been twenty fifteen. I

553
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: guess so about six years ago. Worth noting Laird once

554
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: had a six whole lead over Monty and almost lasted.

555
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: He really did dominate university golf over here for quite

556
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: a basically his all four years that he was at

557
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: sterling Um. And I was just you know, you know,

558
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: looked up to him and thought, okay, what does he

559
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: do well? Um and uh, and kind of learned from him.

560
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: Actually he could. He was he was such a good player,

561
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: and to play with him it was great to watch.

562
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 1: So he was someone I really looked up to. Actually,

563
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: Monty also reflected on their time together in Bahrain. It

564
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: was just funny just going back there. We we he

565
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: may have told you, but we we shared a hotel

566
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: room in Bahrain for a tournament at the end of

567
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: and I remember he was, you know, we we spoke

568
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: about his injuries, and you know, we chapped a lot,

569
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: and he'd be up in the morning just with the

570
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: massage gun, just an hour hour in the morning before

571
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: he played, just drilling the side of his hip and

572
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: his knee, and I was like, man, this guy he's

573
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: dedicated to, you know, get back on and make get

574
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: through these injuries. So now these two guys are on

575
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: the beaches of doing media on the eve of the

576
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: Amateur Championship Finals back in back when we was showing

577
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: that hotel room, would you ever thought this was going

578
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: to happen? And you know, obviously none of us really

579
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: expect what was happening, and um, just surreal. It was surreal.

580
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: So that was it was that made it more difficult

581
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: because you allow yourself to sort of share the emotion

582
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: of being surprised where there was suddenly didn't know as well,

583
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,239
Speaker 1: you try and play it a bit more cool, but

584
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: we we both know how each other were feeling, so

585
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: so to be in that position. We sat on the

586
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: beach with the R and A doing some media for us,

587
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: and we just looked at each other and thought, this

588
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: is just crazy. I could tell in his face and mind.

589
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: We were just we couldn't get over it. Um And

590
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: it was yeah, it was almost a sense of wow,

591
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: we've we've achieved something great this week. Regardless of what

592
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: happens tomorrow, We've both done incredible thing this week. And

593
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: there was this sort of overriding sense of kind of

594
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: pride that we got there, you know, and all the

595
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: hard work to get to that position was had paid off?

596
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: I guess. So both have talent, determination and a work

597
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: ethic and they're both undefeated. So is the naring beaches

598
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: cleared of the editors, cameras and questions? Do? He Donnally,

599
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: he's Scottish broadcaster who called the live stream for the RNA,

600
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: reflects on the night before the final. We know the

601
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: good players, of course they have. I think for me

602
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: it was how are they going to cope with us

603
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 1: because they have not been at this this level before

604
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: and there's so much at stake, not just to win

605
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: this wonderful trophy which Bobby Jones one for goodness sake,

606
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: in any number of some of the greats of the

607
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: game who went under great professional careers both in the

608
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: States and and in Europe. So it was a sense

609
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: of they could win this wonderful trophy, put their name up.

610
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: There was saon as you're going to see and JSI,

611
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: Maria Arthabal and all of the others, and then get

612
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: to play in the Open Championship, get to play in

613
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: the US Open, and get to play in the Masters.

614
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: I mean for our twenty three year old kids, you

615
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: know who's just making his way in the game. I

616
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: don't know how you sleep at night. I mean, it's

617
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: everybody says, you've got to put that out of your

618
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: mind and just play the shot. Hey, easy to say,

619
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: isn't it. Checking in with Team Mighty Scows after the

620
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: semi final, actually we didn't have anywhere to stay, so

621
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: we had to go and find somebody go and stay.

622
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: But when we found that, uh that we largely went

623
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: there and had a takeaway piece and we went to bed. Um.

624
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: But I think none of us slept particularly well. I

625
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: think I think the nerves would begin to to kick

626
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: in at that stage, or you know what the next

627
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: day was going to to produce. And I'm sure Led

628
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: went through exactly saying I know he did. I don't

629
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: think he slept very well, and Monty didn't sleep very well,

630
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: but I think that's probably quite normal. I got to

631
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: sleep pretty early around ten o'clock and woke up or

632
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: must have been about one o'clock in the morning, and

633
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: I was just heart was beating out of the chest,

634
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: and I was really really nervous for the next morning

635
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: because it was a moment in my career. I didn't

636
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: quite expect to get to this quickly. Um. But it

637
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: was also one that you know, I hope, I hope

638
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: I get too quickly. But when you actually find yourself

639
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: in that position, you're not prepared for it. You never

640
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: never prepared for it. So I was so nervous. I

641
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: actually I went to my went to my bag about

642
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: one o'clock in the morning, flicked on the light, started

643
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: chipping around around my bedroom just to make sure I

644
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: could still chip. You know. It was just it was

645
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: bizarre and I couldn't believe it. As for Team Laird,

646
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: Shepherd family and friends were mobilizing, most notably his father

647
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 1: Stewart Shepherd. So I booked a flight and Friday comes

648
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: and he wins in the morning, said right, we've got

649
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: to leave for the airport, the Looting airport, because I

650
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: can't wait to find out with the winds or not,

651
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: because I missed the flight. So he set up on

652
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: the car leaving. We thought plenty of time to get

653
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: to Luton airport, watching the schools on the phone, actually

654
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: getting inside information from Andy the caddy via Laird's girlfriend.

655
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: So and then the good news came through whatever time

656
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: it was that he's won. So we had just made

657
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: the flight and got up there for the final and

658
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: his Dad came up and then we just we went

659
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: for a drink or two of Dad. But Laird was

660
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: like just in a different planet. It was he can

661
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: keep still like he was just you could just tell

662
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: that everything was going through his head at that point,

663
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: just like what could happen tomorrow? Yeah. I arrived at

664
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: the bed and Breakfast, which I booked for us all,

665
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: and they were watching the England Scotland soccer game. It's halftime,

666
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: and I basically said, I need a drink. The stress

667
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: of today and traveling I need and and again, yeah,

668
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: come on, let let's just go down the pub. It's

669
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: just just down their own, which we did. They they

670
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: had already eaten um, and they had had two points

671
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: of water and and and I had two points of

672
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: beer um. So I thought Lair was okay um with

673
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: with him. There's a lot, always a lot going on

674
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 1: under the water, you know. I was trying my best

675
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 1: that night to to get some sleep and not think about,

676
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: you know, all the things that might come. And I've

677
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: done a lot of meditation and out of the year

678
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: to try and deal with some sort of anxiety and

679
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: stuff with my injuries, and I think that that's sort

680
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: of help maybe in that way, because you've got to

681
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: realize that these thoughts going through your head, you can't

682
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: stop them. There's no way of stopping them getting in there.

683
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: But you just don't want to put weight on them.

684
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: And but I haven't said that. I probably slept for

685
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: about two hours. I was. I was very, very nervous.

686
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: In the morning, I woke up and we'll welcome back

687
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: to in the morning, you can get back to sleep.

688
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: That morning, he got up early as well and he

689
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: headed to the course. I didn't even know he was away,

690
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: and I was like, what is he doing. It's like,

691
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: why is he awaiting the course already? I was like,

692
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: you must be because it was fairly early tea time.

693
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: There's no way you should have been. Of course he

694
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: was the course like probably close to three hours before

695
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: the tea time. Nice, Like, that's just silly. If we

696
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: could have teed off straight from after the semifinals, that

697
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: would have been great. But UM woke up the morning

698
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: and and went to the golf course really early because

699
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: I just couldn't speak to anyone. I just was like,

700
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: I need to just go and hit some balls and

701
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 1: maybe that'll make me feel better sort of thing. Chloe

702
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: had made the trip early that morning. She was joined

703
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: by her mom and her sister. The alarm was definitely

704
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: for something. UM left and went straight up the road

705
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: and got there before before I teed off in the morning.

706
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: So arrived in the car park and I could spot

707
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: spotted him on the range warming out things and shots.

708
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: So I went and said holo to him on the

709
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: parting green before he heard it out and stood there

710
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: behind the first tea not being able to breathe. I think, well,

711
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: while we hit that first t shot, welcome to the

712
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: golf club. But I've been trying to six average of

713
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: Trampion final between Montesco and we're I'm sure I was struck. Um. Yeah,

714
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: on the first tea there was a Behind the first

715
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: tea there was a guy. He turned to the guy

716
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: who was with and and said all that I've been

717
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: watching this lad Shepherd. He's a real street fighter. I

718
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: thought that was a pretty presdent thing to say in

719
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: the circumstances needed to be. I asked Mr Scows for

720
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 1: the mindset going into the final. In essence, I said, look,

721
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: there's just you and me out here. We're going to

722
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: play good golf, and if we play good golf. We've

723
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: got to you know, we've got a chance of being lead. Um,

724
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: And that's that was the mentality we went in there with.

725
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: There wasn't we didn't decide to be particularly aggressive, but

726
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: we felt that good golf was going to be who

727
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: was going to win out in the day. My dad

728
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: is my favorite person in the world to play golf with.

729
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: If I could play one person first in my life,

730
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 1: that my dad. We play a lot of golf together

731
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: and um, and he just sent me and you out

732
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: there today and he kept me really calm, and UM.

733
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: We picked our lines a week really well, and we

734
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: just did the same thing on the first team and

735
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: you know, managed to strike that one down the middle

736
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: and from there on it just it was just we're

737
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: just out there playing golf. So yeah, I mean the

738
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: first round, I got off to a pretty nice start.

739
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: You know. Um, it's a real having cameras for you,

740
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: and there was quite a few of them because they

741
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: were live streaming the final. And you know, on the

742
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: first two You've got this camera in my face and

743
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: don't really know what to do, you know, whether to

744
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: like smile into it and laugh or try and be serious. Um.

745
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: On the first team, I kind of forgot that the

746
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: TV cameras were and that we learn were speaking away

747
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: and we weren't sure if the cameras could hear what

748
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: we were saying. So we're just talking to we and

749
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: then next thing, the guy, the camera guy is like

750
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: literally in our face. We're like what and we just

751
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: both just stopped speaking. It's like we're like, all right,

752
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: so we don't know what to say tea chats, so

753
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: we just stopped speaking. Then so we're off and running

754
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: the opening t shots and there's thirty six whole final.

755
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: The first few holes, the way they both they both

756
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: like hit played great for the first kind of four

757
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: or five holes. Like obviously Load missed an opportunity, a

758
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: couple of opportunities early on, but you know, to start

759
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: off with that type of ball striking, you know, head

760
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: it straight down the middle. On the first both of

761
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: them hit, Load hit a great shot in and looks

762
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: word of the club normally a suggestion the player likes

763
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: it and so he should, you know, slightly messed the opportunity,

764
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: but I think it definitely certain my nerves anyway, to

765
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: see the way they were he was hitting the ball

766
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: that morning. You know, a dream of starting off like

767
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: that if I was in a British Cemetary finals. So

768
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: one thing that I probably am is a bit of

769
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: a UM I love to show off, but I love

770
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: to show my skills sort of thing. And I love

771
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: playing in front of people. Um, so you know, I

772
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: like the idea of people watching, um we play golf

773
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: and trying to put on a bit of a show

774
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: and play some really nice stuff to start with. And

775
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: this was happy enough, just just sort of was missing

776
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: parts here and there and it wasn't really again the

777
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: flats flatstick working m and then Monty made a bomb

778
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: on on the fifth. I think it was to take

779
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 1: the first hole, and what a part Monty scousel from downtown.

780
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: He has a chip in on six from you know,

781
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: No Man's Land. Mcaddy said to me, Monty gets up

782
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: and down, I'm going in and shot scored towards the

783
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: hall and I'm like, oh my god, oh my goodness.

784
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: Me and I went in the home. He hold the shot.

785
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, just trying to later and went, well,

786
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: at least I don't need to go in because he

787
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: hold it. So so he lost that hole. You know,

788
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: you start to think, well things are going his way

789
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: a little bit today, So that's kind of magic. You

790
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: need them and that kind of final. So I suppose

791
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: you've got to expect stuff like that to happen when

792
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: you're playing um, great players and stuff like that, because

793
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: you can't afford to have that sort of a few

794
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: minutes of shock and then effect your performance. But you know,

795
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,479
Speaker 1: I just the way things went, I lost lost three

796
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: holes in a row, and you know, I wasn't putninged

797
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: very well. You know, I probably could have been just

798
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: three three down if I probably parted any decently, but

799
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: I didn't, and before you know it, you know, making

800
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: mistakes here and there, and Monty's getting some good shots

801
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: here and there. And obviously if that's an eighteen whole match,

802
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: it's finished by thirteen or something. So for the next

803
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: whatever many holes layered, was just trying to force the

804
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: issue so much that he was just just giving away

805
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: holes for for nothing, really money made a copy a

806
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: pretty good part. Monty's partner in the morning was we

807
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: don't have a three part. Of course, what you do

808
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: find in in the the amateur match plays that the

809
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: pin positions are horrendous um and it's difficult to tell

810
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: that from from the television very often you can't quite

811
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: see how difficult they are, and they put them in

812
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 1: situations where if if you you set up a stroke

813
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 1: play competition with those pin positions, should have all the

814
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: all the top pros and walk off because it said,

815
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: I'm not playing at a golf course like this. So

816
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: it's to score as he did and to get as

817
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: many birds as he did, he would have to how

818
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: he was playing exceptional golf, and yes he probably played

819
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: the best stay team he played all week out, saying

820
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: Laird Shepherd didn't make a birdie in the morning round,

821
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: Monty Scousel made six. The weird thing is, and I've

822
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: said this for a lot of people since the final,

823
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: is that when do you ever play a thirty six

824
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: sold match, you know, against someone Me and Lead had

825
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: never done it unless you reach the final in one

826
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: of these prestigious tournaments. You never at thirty six match.

827
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: So obviously in the morning, if we played eighteen, I

828
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't have got six up. We would have been it

829
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: would have been five and four or whatever the score was.

830
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: So it was it was weird. Um, I knew that

831
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: I was playing well, and obviously Lead, you know, it

832
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: was making some uncharacteristic mistakes. You know, he wasn't cutting well,

833
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: he missed a few short puts, um, and that's that's golf.

834
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: So I kind of I just kept focusing on on

835
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: my routines, kept focusing on on the golf. And actually

836
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: one of my key focuses where I said, well, I

837
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: know that I'm playing well right now and lead isn't

838
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: and it's very important that I do try and make

839
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: the most of this, this this run that I'm on

840
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: because at some point he's going to come back at me.

841
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: The third six old match was different. I mean, you

842
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: just got there's so many holes and so much time

843
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: for momentum to sway that um, you don't really know

844
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: what to think. So um, I didn't. I didn't like

845
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,479
Speaker 1: I played that badly. I just I was just got

846
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 1: to stage when I was four or five down where

847
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: I just started chasing and trying too hard to make

848
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: up ground, and that's when you end up making mistakes.

849
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: And you know, it was pretty deflated. I didn't have

850
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: any adrenaline. I wasn't nervous because you know, I was

851
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: so far behind, and that's what sort of keeps you

852
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: going when you've been playing that much golf is the adrenaline,

853
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: and I was I was sort of struggling to to

854
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: really know, concentrate and get and get some momentum. It

855
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: was like Monty played well, but we had also gifted

856
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: on hold, so it's just like a pile up of

857
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: all was given away and punishment continues. Oh you know,

858
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: it just kept kind of mounting as it wasn't it.

859
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: It was five, six seven, and you know when he

860
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: went eight down, you just it was just watching him

861
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: be kind of more and more aflated every time he apart,

862
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: just slid by. And I know he's a great potter. Um,

863
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, he is a great potter. And one of

864
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: the members said to me, are you know his laird

865
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: is this kind of typical layered great ball striking just

866
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: miss misses the parts. And I'm like, no, he's a

867
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: great potter, like um, you know, I we part like

868
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: a practice together all the time. He beats me far

869
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: too often and parttings the strength of my game, so

870
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: um so yeah, I think it was frustrating knowing that

871
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: what he could have done had he kind of potted

872
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: the way he usually does. I had a part of

873
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: sixteen actually to not go eight down for sixteen and

874
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: I managed to hold it. But that was when the

875
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: first came into my head, like, we don't want this

876
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: to be embarrassing, lad you need to try and win

877
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: some holes. And you know, no one wants to get

878
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: beaten by a record breaking score. And the largest margin

879
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: of victory in the rich history of the Amateur Championship

880
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: was nine thirty four at Presswick were lost and Little

881
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: of America beat James Wallace of Scotland fourteen and thirteen.

882
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: They started raining on thee in the morning. They hadn't

883
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: rained all day and I'm not sure if Monty just

884
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: got like a wet cloth face or something like that,

885
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: and anyway, he just he just spread in what's short

886
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: of the day. You just put one out of bounds,

887
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: which isn't really unplayed, but it probably is if you've

888
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: got away cloth face. And then unfortunately he wins a team.

889
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: But still, you know, seven down at at lunch, Monty

890
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: doesn't want lunch. He just wants to keep on playing.

891
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: We're all thinking, hey, early finished today, guys, that will

892
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: this will be over by you know, early afternoon. To

893
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: be honest, the break came at a terrible time for me. Um,

894
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: you know, I was playing really well, um, and had

895
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: such a big lead. I just wanted to keep playing

896
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: and and that that that break was strange because obviously

897
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: all the other breaks that I've had previous days, I

898
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: was going into the afternoon all square, new match against

899
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: a new opponent. So it was a complete reset where

900
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: it's going into that afternoon session with a with a

901
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: seven up lead. Was it was. I found it really difficult, actually, Um,

902
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: you know I did. I did my normal warm up

903
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: and went to the range, just clipped a few wedges away,

904
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: hit some parts and then and then we teed off.

905
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: But I did find it difficult to try and reset.

906
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: It was also, you know, fatigue was kicking at this point, um,

907
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,959
Speaker 1: and I also realized, you know, seven up, like god,

908
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: this is this is mine to lose now. Because pressure

909
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: it does crazy things. And Martin must have been eating

910
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: over his lunch thinking, oh my god, I'm going all

911
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: sorts of places here. I can't imagine what was going

912
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: through his head at lunch time. I don't know if

913
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: he said or what, but it must have been a

914
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: pretty surreal lunch. Back to Lard's dad for his thoughts

915
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: at the lunch break with his son seven down, well,

916
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: they're saying soccer, if you can score just before halftime,

917
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: it's quite a quite a boost to you when you

918
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: start the second half. And obviously just numerically seven is

919
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: better than eight. But absolutely you go in E's one

920
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: a whole. I won a whole. I can win a hole.

921
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: I don't. I haven't made it Burdi yet, but I've

922
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: won the whole. So U yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure

923
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: it was a big filip for it room. I mean,

924
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, nonetheless, you know, I have to confess a

925
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: bit of dooming bloom over the sandwich at lunch time. Um,

926
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: seven is a big ask, but better than eight. So yeah,

927
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: I can see that that was a pivotal well, a

928
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: pivotal moment. Me and Monty eight a either ends of

929
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: the room. We didn't really choose to just that's where

930
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: I happened, sat down and I think, you know, I

931
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't have I wouldn't have had lunch with them because

932
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: I was I was not in a good mood, so

933
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: I just wanted to be on my own. And and

934
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: then Monty ends up going to hit some hit some

935
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: balls as well, um to warm up to we warm

936
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: up and by that stage I was over. I was like,

937
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 1: I can't be bothered to go to the ranger. I'm

938
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: just gonna sit here and you know, maybe and then

939
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: sort of like, okay, I'll go net some parts because

940
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: I was having trouble with some part of them. Um

941
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: and yeah, I just sort of didn't really didn't really

942
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: talk about a whole lot of mccardi, just just just

943
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: chatting about anything really, And he was obviously still telling

944
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: me that, you know, it was still to play for

945
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: and Layer was prety down at lunch. But I just said, like,

946
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: it's got a bit pressure on see seeing Monty handles

947
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: for pressure and just see what happens. Just again, you've

948
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: got none to lose now. I was like, everyone that's

949
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: coming out to watch is going to be behind you.

950
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to see you get and thrashed. So if

951
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: you start wearing a few holes, then the whole crowd

952
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: is going to be behind you. Which asked the pressure

953
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: for a month the lunch time break, what what to say?

954
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: It was a tricky thing, you know, I mean I

955
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: basically just said I think that the lad said. I said,

956
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: you know it's not over yet. You know, he's won

957
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: seven goals on in the morning, you can easily win

958
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: seven holes in the afternoon on him. So yeah, that

959
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: was a tougher tougher coach coaching, not father, rather roll.

960
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: Did you believe what you were saying? Uh? The odds

961
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: obviously massively against it. Um, but I did believe it

962
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: was possible. What did you say? Um? Well, you know,

963
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: I obviously went over to him, and I was trying

964
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: to be the positive, motivational girlfriend and I was like, right,

965
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: come on, biggest come back ever. And he's like, he's

966
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: just he was so deflated. And I think obviously the

967
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: week was taking it as tall on the both of them,

968
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 1: and um, you know, just all that kind of every

969
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: time he went another one down. I guess it just

970
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: adds to that kind of way on your shoulders. And

971
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 1: I said, right, come on, they just come back ever

972
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: ago and read that or something, and just like and

973
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: I did believe he could do it, but you know,

974
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: you're struggling to believe he can do it. I know

975
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: she's traveled all the way up from Saint Andrews, just

976
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: like a four hour drive, and one of my my

977
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: dad's good friends who I'm friends with as well, he'd

978
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: taken a flight up from from London to come and

979
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: watch me, and he only got there for in the

980
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 1: morning and actually walked past him on the second hold

981
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 1: in the afternoon and tatted on the shoulder and just said,

982
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: justin I'm trying. I'm going to try and give you

983
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: some more entertainment for the day. I can try and

984
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: extend it as long as possible, because you know, you've

985
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: come a long way, and hopefully I'll try and give

986
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: you some good golf to watch. That was that was

987
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: you know, they you know clearly, you know said you

988
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: know it's never over, and she definitely believed in me.

989
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 1: But my mindset was just trying to give the people

990
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: that are about to come and see play and give

991
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: them some good golf to watch and you know, get

992
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: some good highlights to watch on YouTube. Even if I lost, Like,

993
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: regardless of what anyone says them at lunch, the still

994
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: seventh down, it doesn't like, I'm like seen comebacks better

995
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: than this. Ah and and I was like, well, you

996
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: never know, but realistically it's not going to happen. I

997
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: didn't say that to him, but I mean anyone would

998
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: think that. All right, it's halftime at their and Scusel

999
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: is hitting balls Shepherd is hitting some puts and the

1000
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: broadcast crew is making plans for the evening. Yeah, and

1001
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: everyone was planning, Hey, we're gonna get home lay, We're

1002
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: going to be out and Saturday night because this is

1003
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: this is going to be older. Early afternoon, we were

1004
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: all just in cruise control. It was like, what holl

1005
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: is this going to finish? Someone once said that you

1006
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,840
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1007
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,040
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1008
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,280
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1009
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,040
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1010
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,400
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1011
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,040
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1012
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,640
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1013
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,120
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1014
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,560
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