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Speaker 1: an international controversy. Now for the first time, Snoop Dogg
Speaker 1: comes to the Red Table for healing session. I've had
Speaker 1: a bit of a complicated relationship with you from Afar,
Speaker 1: and you can understand that when you first said what
Speaker 1: you said, you know in regards to Gail, we expect
Speaker 1: more from you. Gail, respect the family and back off
Speaker 1: my heart trucks. You may think it was more people
Speaker 1: against me, It was more people with and I wanted
Speaker 1: to make sure that the message was across that we
Speaker 1: love Kobe and be respectful of Vanessa and those kids.
Speaker 1: Have you talked to Gail? What did your mama say
Speaker 1: to you? When someone becomes a superhero, it's our job
Speaker 1: to protect that superhero. This will be my first time
Speaker 1: meeting Snoop. You're kidding me, you've never met him in person.
Speaker 1: If we've crossed paths, but we've never met met How
Speaker 1: interesting is that? Especially considering how close here? I know,
Speaker 1: I'm excited. Yeah, snoop dogg. Hey ladies, what's up? Girls?
Speaker 1: Who is happening this? Snoop? What's up? Believe this is
Speaker 1: like our first time actually meeting, meeting right right. I'm
Speaker 1: happy you're here. I'm happy to be here. What's up? Mother?
Speaker 1: I'll say where you get it from? A welcome? Thank you?
Speaker 1: Hello girl, I'm good, hurry doing good? I'm good. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: let's go to show me. Leave me to this red
Speaker 1: table whereverybody's been chopping it up. Let me give me
Speaker 1: some game in here. What the devil is this? You
Speaker 1: know I'm a fashion guy. First, I'm gonna enjoy my
Speaker 1: uh see if I get my walk on on this
Speaker 1: right here? Oh oh wow, I finally made it to
Speaker 1: the table. Yes, this is it right here, And thank
Speaker 1: you all for having me real talk. And I love
Speaker 1: what y'are doing as far as three generations of how
Speaker 1: mama you and then baby girl and how y'all really
Speaker 1: just be real about it. There's so many broken homes
Speaker 1: y'all showing y'all showing together this. We need this, we try,
Speaker 1: We're trying. You're doing good. Welcome to a special Red Table.
Speaker 1: As you know, the last few weeks there's been controversy
Speaker 1: around Snoop and GAYL King. This conversation is not about
Speaker 1: taking sides. This conversation is not about trying to prove
Speaker 1: who's right or who's wrong. This conversation is about healing.
Speaker 1: I looked at this as a huge opportunity to talk
Speaker 1: about the wounds and culture of disrespect between black men
Speaker 1: and black women. And I want everyone to know that
Speaker 1: I invited Snoop to the table, and I also invited
Speaker 1: GAYL King to the table. GAYL King has an open
Speaker 1: invite for whenever she wants to come. First of all,
Speaker 1: this is great because you know, you and I have
Speaker 1: been around for a long time, and along the way,
Speaker 1: I had a bit of a complicated relationship, you know,
Speaker 1: with you from Afar. You can understand that. But there's
Speaker 1: two times in your career where I really I just
Speaker 1: had to cheer for you, hardcore. Thank you. I don't
Speaker 1: want to get emotional about the one I'm about to
Speaker 1: talk about, Homie Tight again. I cried to I just camera.
Speaker 1: This is this is a deep one because you don't
Speaker 1: know about this, but during that whole pop Shook Night thing, right,
Speaker 1: and I'm really glad that you and should have made peace.
Speaker 1: Let me start there, because that's deeply important. Okay, so
Speaker 1: I'm so glad about that, But I have to admit
Speaker 1: that doing those very complicated times, you were the only
Speaker 1: person that came out and stood up to Shug Knight
Speaker 1: and spoke out and for me during a time where
Speaker 1: I really felt like my hands were tied and I
Speaker 1: was powerless, the fact that you were like, I'm not
Speaker 1: having it, I'm not having it. There were still people
Speaker 1: that I cared about that were entangled in that mix
Speaker 1: in a certain way, and the fact that you were
Speaker 1: willing to set boundaries gave me a relax right and
Speaker 1: just the message that extent and it kind of took
Speaker 1: the boogie off the boogeyman. I get it, I trust me,
Speaker 1: I get it. That was such a painful time, but
Speaker 1: you had to take your stands on you know what,
Speaker 1: This is not my fight, Yeah, Snoop. Can I just
Speaker 1: tell you that's the brotherhood sisterhood that we must create
Speaker 1: without talking. You get what I'm saying. I shouldn't have
Speaker 1: to talk to you to get your back, but that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Snoop. So then here we go. The
Speaker 1: second time, all right, the second time I was rooting
Speaker 1: for you was your apology to Gail King. Can I
Speaker 1: just tell you why when you first said what you said,
Speaker 1: you know in regards to Gail, my heart trots. I
Speaker 1: felt like, not only were you talking to Gail, but
Speaker 1: she were talking to me. I was like, oh no,
Speaker 1: Snoop has now taken his power flow away from me,
Speaker 1: away from Willow, away from my mother. Right. I was like,
Speaker 1: if this is what's happening, I was like, not, Snoop,
Speaker 1: let me ask how you even got in at space
Speaker 1: because I know that you have dealt with a lot
Speaker 1: of loss recently, which is a matter of me losing
Speaker 1: control because we still have a swallow nip. We're still
Speaker 1: in golf, and that that's still in our heart right now.
Speaker 1: We still hurt behind that. And then Kobe and his daughter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you lost of grandson recently that I lost
Speaker 1: of grand grandmother. So it's like and then I got
Speaker 1: to be stronger front everybody remember that point. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: got to turn it on. It's time to be Snoop again.
Speaker 1: But what about what I want to cry? What about
Speaker 1: when I'm hurt and I'm feeling bad, and I feel disgusted,
Speaker 1: and I want to be angry, and I want to
Speaker 1: just blar it out. I can't. I let my emotions
Speaker 1: get the best of me. I was frustrated on top
Speaker 1: of just just Thenny and doing it the wrong way.
Speaker 1: Talk to us a little bit about your relationship with
Speaker 1: Kobe and what made it so um yeah, painful when
Speaker 1: you saw that interview. Kobe was like the son and
Speaker 1: the brother to l a that we that we all needed,
Speaker 1: and we all loved him for that. You know, from
Speaker 1: the early nineties to his last days of playing basketball,
Speaker 1: we watched him growing to a man, a father, mentor
Speaker 1: a leader, and he was the kind of guy that
Speaker 1: was forgiving. He was the kind of guy that was apologetic.
Speaker 1: So I had to take that on and say, let
Speaker 1: me put a little bit of him and me. But
Speaker 1: our relationship was based off of just being fans. I'm
Speaker 1: a fan of his, he was a fan of mis
Speaker 1: I loved everything he didn't own the court, off the court.
Speaker 1: I loved him as a father to his daughters and
Speaker 1: how he was transforming into that man that we all
Speaker 1: want to be. Yeah, we all want to be that
Speaker 1: man that's loved by the kids and their wife had
Speaker 1: just to stand up. Guy, Like, to get to that
Speaker 1: point in life is hard. Hard. When this whole Gail
Speaker 1: thing came up, I do feel like there was a
Speaker 1: lot of anger built up, built up, like black man furious.
Speaker 1: I have not seen that as a collective in a
Speaker 1: long well. Of course, we just came from behind closed doors,
Speaker 1: and it's it's a collective feeling of you guys are
Speaker 1: targeting us, you guys are coming after us, you guys
Speaker 1: are us. A lot of Black men felt attacked, you know,
Speaker 1: and that we as black people on both sides, you know,
Speaker 1: how the wounds that we have to deal with as
Speaker 1: a community. How I think we expect each other to
Speaker 1: have a bit more sensitivity, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: especially for our superheroes. When someone becomes a superhero. We
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of them, but when someone becomes
Speaker 1: a superhero, it's our job to protect that superhero. So
Speaker 1: that's why we have that in our hearts while y'all
Speaker 1: acking us right after we make it. Do you think
Speaker 1: that some of that feeling of like you're targeting us,
Speaker 1: like that feeling comes from almost like maybe a shared
Speaker 1: or like passed down PTSD, like psychologically and emotionally from
Speaker 1: our history in the school. You hit it right on
Speaker 1: the you know what I mean, it's automatically we feel
Speaker 1: like we're targeted. Yes, we get caught up in our
Speaker 1: pains and we just want to like we want to,
Speaker 1: we want which is the most human hand? When did
Speaker 1: you realize that this was now a national debate? It
Speaker 1: got bad fast. It went' from me just entny to
Speaker 1: a maddened Yeah, got the whole world in the uproar.
Speaker 1: And what's crazy is you may think it was more
Speaker 1: people against me, It was more people with me. We know,
Speaker 1: I saw that strange. Thank you said, we've been on
Speaker 1: the same right, But you shouldn't have said it like that.
Speaker 1: That you get that, and I'm a man, Yeah, don't bother.
Speaker 1: It was how but that it just shows that I
Speaker 1: needed to be bigger, right, because I could have created
Speaker 1: a worse situation by saying, you know what, they with me?
Speaker 1: So I'm right. No, No, there's always some wrong in
Speaker 1: the right right. You just have to look forward. And
Speaker 1: I went looking for it. Yeah, I wentn't looking for
Speaker 1: because I wanted to make sure that what I said
Speaker 1: was said the right way, and I wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure that the message was across that we love Kobe
Speaker 1: and be respectful of Vaness and those kids. That's what
Speaker 1: the whole intent was, to protect that woman and them
Speaker 1: babies over there because she's still grieving and let's give
Speaker 1: them that respect. How did it make you feel when
Speaker 1: you saw what was happening in regards to your words,
Speaker 1: when you saw how people reacted. It made me feel
Speaker 1: like I had much power and at that particular time,
Speaker 1: I was abusing it mm hmm. And that's just what
Speaker 1: I felt, and I had to get it right right.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the turn that happened that
Speaker 1: made you decide to apologize in the way that you did,
Speaker 1: because that's so powerful. It was like I was, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a great person as far as understanding
Speaker 1: when I'm wrong. Like I like being an example of
Speaker 1: wrong the right because my whole career is based off
Speaker 1: of being wrong and right. So I get it and
Speaker 1: I understand and I love being that example. But this
Speaker 1: time was different because Mama called, what did your mama
Speaker 1: say to Well, my mother raised me in church and
Speaker 1: she raised me to respect women. So it was just
Speaker 1: certain things that she said to me that took me
Speaker 1: back to being a little kid. And when your mama
Speaker 1: can make you feel like a kid, that's when you
Speaker 1: got to get right. I didn't feel grown. I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like I was Snoop Dogg the wrapper. I felt
Speaker 1: like Opie, like okay, all right. And she didn't said
Speaker 1: I was wrong. She just was just giving me yes, yes,
Speaker 1: your representation of us, Yes, us, every woman that ever
Speaker 1: crossed your life, your representation of that. So I got it,
Speaker 1: and I didn't tell my team. I didn't go to
Speaker 1: my publicist and say, hey, guys, I'm planning on I
Speaker 1: just did it and then I hit him with it.
Speaker 1: So I would like to apologize to you publicly for
Speaker 1: the language that I used and calling you out of
Speaker 1: your name and just being disrespectful. And I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: we were thinking about putting together a tweet. You don't
Speaker 1: have to a tweet ain't the heart. Sometimes to tweet
Speaker 1: get misread. I misunderstood. When I'm talking to you and
Speaker 1: you're looking into my eyes and you're hearing me, it's
Speaker 1: a real it's a real respect of the apology is authentic,
Speaker 1: it's sincere, and I'm really sorry. Yeah, have you talked
Speaker 1: to no but I've reached out through her friends, with
Speaker 1: her associates, and I even d m her sitting her prayer,
Speaker 1: let her know I apologize to it. Just doing all
Speaker 1: the things that I could do to just put my
Speaker 1: effort forward, you know what I'm saying, because I was wrong.
Speaker 1: I said I loved to meet with you privately. That
Speaker 1: was my last that was my last soul, that was
Speaker 1: my last line, just to make sure that it wasn't
Speaker 1: going to be watered down and deluded where I can
Speaker 1: actually give her a hug, looking her eyes and talk
Speaker 1: to it like we're talking. Yeah, this is a little
Speaker 1: bit different than you know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: it's much different because just just feeling the beauty of
Speaker 1: your spirit snoop, Right, you gotta love e dovey spirit.
Speaker 1: You got to take away any of his gangster You
Speaker 1: can that from a text. You can't feel that from
Speaker 1: a tweet, right Me. Apologizing was a big difference because
Speaker 1: people didn't expect that. They thought I was gonna hold
Speaker 1: onto my gangster and be like, you know, saying what
Speaker 1: I said, and people looking up to me and saying, well,
Speaker 1: I like what you did, Snow, how can we better ourselves?
Speaker 1: Correct my stakes? And not feel ashamed and not feel
Speaker 1: less of a man because I said I'm sorry, and
Speaker 1: that's usually what it is. You just man up and
Speaker 1: deal with it. That I don't mind being checked, yea,
Speaker 1: because if I'm wrong, check me. Because I don't want
Speaker 1: to keep repeating my mistakes, because I want to be
Speaker 1: a better person. I got kids, grandkids, you know, my
Speaker 1: mom and them and her friends and Auntie them. I
Speaker 1: can call you again. You had me. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I want to be in the church dog
Speaker 1: out right. I love you saying I don't mind being
Speaker 1: checked because that means you're always open to learning, right,
Speaker 1: And that's it. That's all we can do. All the
Speaker 1: student enough studying. When this thing happened with Gail, I
Speaker 1: got calls from Tyler, Perry Puff, Daddy Van Jones, like
Speaker 1: powerful black men, and they didn't bash me, and they
Speaker 1: just was, brother, we got you back, you know if
Speaker 1: you need, but we thank you. You should have said
Speaker 1: it right. See how they got to that and just
Speaker 1: start off with that. It's a big difference. What you
Speaker 1: get what's happening in I'm gonna mantch energy with energy
Speaker 1: you get at me? What the hey, brother, We're just
Speaker 1: calling them. Let you know we support you and we
Speaker 1: love you. You know, you could have want to buy
Speaker 1: a little bit differently you think, so yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: what what could I do? Thank you, brother, I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: We got a real brotherhood going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: I love hearing that many prominent women express their appreciation
Speaker 1: for your public apology to GAYL King and Dr Ian Lovin,
Speaker 1: Zan send a message to oh Wow, I'm scared of her.
Speaker 1: I'm over here with Willow like old what I indeed
Speaker 1: now deep bow to you, my sister woman Jada, and
Speaker 1: I thank you for this opportunity and for this conversation
Speaker 1: that we're having. And to you, my beloved Snoop, I
Speaker 1: honor your courage, your integrity, and the demonstration of leadership
Speaker 1: that you are for apologizing for your behavior. I don't
Speaker 1: believe that the culture of disrespect is new, specifically African
Speaker 1: American people. We have been programmed and conditioned and educated
Speaker 1: in a society that expects us to accommodate, tolerate, and
Speaker 1: accept both public and personal disrespect. My challenge to Snoop
Speaker 1: and anyone else involved, particularly those of us who have
Speaker 1: a public forum, is to say and do only those
Speaker 1: things that will facilitate healing, and I believe that's what
Speaker 1: the apology did. Okay, that's the doctor. She Actually, that's
Speaker 1: a great brought up because we are programmed, we are conditioned,
Speaker 1: and see, when you identify then you know better. So
Speaker 1: Male Health is a sports journalist and also has a
Speaker 1: very special message just for you, Jamail. Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: my girl. She got mad at me when I when
Speaker 1: I took off on guild on the first half, feelings
Speaker 1: You're gonna check me if I'm wrong, Snoop, I want
Speaker 1: to thank you for apologizing. I know what you said.
Speaker 1: It was out of character and coming from a place
Speaker 1: of hurt, but we need to find a way that
Speaker 1: we can correct one another dialogue with each other without
Speaker 1: it potentially causing harm. Black men in this country have
Speaker 1: been made to feel like a target, and the weight
Speaker 1: of that hurt and pain that they've absorbed from the
Speaker 1: world comes back in our direction. Sometimes we are made
Speaker 1: the targets simply because we are a very easy group
Speaker 1: to take out your frustrations on. No matter where you
Speaker 1: are and what your hierarchy is in this society, we're
Speaker 1: guaranteed to be on the bottom of the tolden pole
Speaker 1: and look snoo. If you know how much I love
Speaker 1: you and respect you, you wanted to o GS in
Speaker 1: this game. I think that you apologizing was a really
Speaker 1: big thing. I appreciate that as somebody who has always
Speaker 1: placed you in a prominent position in our community, and
Speaker 1: just in knowing you and knowing how you've treated me
Speaker 1: when they came for me, you were one of my supporters,
Speaker 1: So you know, I just appreciate the fact that you
Speaker 1: were able to help us push this conversation along in
Speaker 1: a positive direction. Yes, And that's heavy because because when
Speaker 1: they went after her, I was there, like there for her,
Speaker 1: like what you want me to do, like it's real,
Speaker 1: like black Man fashion, like with the soldiers ready to
Speaker 1: go when it's like to hear that. It helped me
Speaker 1: step back and say, how many women in my life
Speaker 1: that depend on me, that need me and I need them?
Speaker 1: And there's so many right that you don't even know,
Speaker 1: just like when I told you that story earlier, you
Speaker 1: don't even know what that did for me. And I
Speaker 1: think sometimes we just lose sight of how much we
Speaker 1: need each other so that we can all just stand
Speaker 1: proud and together in power. If we don't have y'all,
Speaker 1: we got nobody when I have a couple of ideas
Speaker 1: of how disrespect is cultivated between black men and black women.
Speaker 1: I think one of the most difficult obstacles that we
Speaker 1: have to deal with is that there's still so much
Speaker 1: misogyny in our culture. So what do we do to
Speaker 1: try to change that? Are trying to be one individual
Speaker 1: when you've actually been a part of the problem. I
Speaker 1: admit that I've been the one that said nigger bitches holes.
Speaker 1: I used that my whole seven to ten years of
Speaker 1: my first beginning of my career, So it's kind of
Speaker 1: hard to like take those words out of the equation
Speaker 1: when I got to do shows that people love that
Speaker 1: song for those words. So just last year, you came
Speaker 1: out with a new album and it almost seems like
Speaker 1: you had a relax you went back to the calling
Speaker 1: women bitches, And let me explain to you, it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to let go something that you've been accustomed to
Speaker 1: your whole life, your whole life and something that you
Speaker 1: really trying to work on. Is sometimes where it's like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I had a back. It used to be
Speaker 1: a time when my music was everything. You know. Snoop's music,
Speaker 1: his songs, his words. But once you become a grown
Speaker 1: man and you realize that your words have powercussion and
Speaker 1: you have power, then you have to pull back. And
Speaker 1: even me and Pop got into it because he was
Speaker 1: like he wanted me to stay gangster, and I was like,
Speaker 1: cuz I got a baby on the way, I'd just
Speaker 1: be the murder case. I have a lot to live for.
Speaker 1: He had no kids, pocket and I used to get
Speaker 1: into his usage of bitch and home. We got into
Speaker 1: a hard core He could give you this beautiful record,
Speaker 1: and I was like when and he's like, I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about you. And it's as we was torn though,
Speaker 1: like to be able to do this and that it's
Speaker 1: like he wasn't talking about you, but he had to
Speaker 1: talk to those that was out there. So here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Though he tried his best to define from me. He
Speaker 1: tried to define from me the difference, which of course
Speaker 1: never no sense at all. Right, So you're saying your
Speaker 1: definition would make no sense. I'm not gonna try to
Speaker 1: explain because I felt like in the beginning that was
Speaker 1: a word that was brainwashed, that was taught to me,
Speaker 1: and I just misused and I just kept just throwing
Speaker 1: it out there, throwing it out there, and I've saying
Speaker 1: it came back to me on the girl because I
Speaker 1: got rid of it to a certain extent, and Mom
Speaker 1: only called him one time. Two years ago. I put
Speaker 1: out a gospel album, the whole album that was just
Speaker 1: gospel clean. Nobody wanted to talk about that. But the
Speaker 1: minute I say, bitch hole. But that's what that's a problem.
Speaker 1: And we do right, we don't get commended. So it's
Speaker 1: easy for us to backslide when no one's going to say, man,
Speaker 1: that was beautiful what you did. Keep up the great work.
Speaker 1: That sounded good. So what do you think, Snoop, How
Speaker 1: can we because we have all these wounds that that
Speaker 1: we deal with as a community. Because I really feel
Speaker 1: like the relationship between black men and black women, those
Speaker 1: wounds run so deep on so many levels because a
Speaker 1: lot I'm starting your house with grandmama, mama, then it
Speaker 1: seeps out into your relationships with the women that you have.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. I often wonder if
Speaker 1: the relationship between black men and women, and sometimes the
Speaker 1: complicated relationships that black men have with their mothers, because
Speaker 1: usually we are the only ones there in the household right,
Speaker 1: And it's complex because I think a black son knows
Speaker 1: that his mama has been the only one yeah there
Speaker 1: for him. But as you and on both know, just
Speaker 1: in male nature that once a young man is growing
Speaker 1: up and starts ramming a little get away from mama,
Speaker 1: he wants to get away from Mama. But also I
Speaker 1: think sometimes how mama has to put control in on
Speaker 1: her black son, it works against her sometimes sometimes because
Speaker 1: he becomes angry and mad towards the girl that he's
Speaker 1: work based off of the way his mother treated him.
Speaker 1: Because I remember when I first left my house, me
Speaker 1: and my wife used to argue about you ain't my mama,
Speaker 1: how you gonna tell me what? And that was the
Speaker 1: first thing I had to get rid of to stop
Speaker 1: saying that because I kept looking at her as my mother,
Speaker 1: like when you say something to me. I left my
Speaker 1: mama house because I didn't want to be told what
Speaker 1: to do. God, but that's just me being wrong, Like,
Speaker 1: stop judging you off of how my mother raised me,
Speaker 1: and look at us for who we are. There were
Speaker 1: times when my mother was like, I will take your
Speaker 1: ass outside and slam you on that call. Mama did it,
Speaker 1: She didn't say that she did it so back then
Speaker 1: they could do that, right. But you know, you're trying
Speaker 1: to protect the way that y'all raised was the best
Speaker 1: that y'all knew, how y'all was preparing us for life,
Speaker 1: and life don't love you and it was tough love.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade it for nothing in the world, right, So, snoop,
Speaker 1: Unfortunately we've lost another young soul. Yeah, And I was
Speaker 1: just with that young man in New York and just
Speaker 1: seeing his spirit and watching him do his thing and
Speaker 1: him coming to l A trying to get away. And God,
Speaker 1: don't make no mistakes though. He talking to us right now,
Speaker 1: and we need to heed his messages, understand why all
Speaker 1: of this is happening, Understand what's the importance of something
Speaker 1: like this. And I've always been able to be the
Speaker 1: one in front of it all. I gotta go home
Speaker 1: and think about this because this is this was a
Speaker 1: low blow right here, twenty year old. Some of my
Speaker 1: friends were so heartbroken, Like I was calling, just like,
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, I can't make sense of all of it.
Speaker 1: I just really can't. It's a fast life and a
Speaker 1: lot of times everybody don't really understand what goes into
Speaker 1: this thing right. This is a business, and it's also
Speaker 1: it's trifling if you don't have the right people around you.
Speaker 1: It's so true. That's why you've got to have the
Speaker 1: right representation and you've got to know who you are
Speaker 1: when you're getting into this industry because the music you
Speaker 1: represent represents you as a person. Swell until you learn
Speaker 1: how to separate the two and become him on record,
Speaker 1: him in real life. That part, Yeah, And it'd be
Speaker 1: hard to get to that part because you're so my
Speaker 1: record is selling because I'm so real and I'm so this,
Speaker 1: I'm sold. But then that comes with it. Yes, And
Speaker 1: I think that's the part. And even if you think
Speaker 1: you want some real, it's always somebody more. Really, I
Speaker 1: guess it's just trying to figure out how to stop,
Speaker 1: because it's to me, it's just a cycle of self hatred.
Speaker 1: Why we keep perpetuating the cycle of self hatred has
Speaker 1: created some positivity too. We don't only want to speak
Speaker 1: on the negative, we want to sleep on the positive.
Speaker 1: When I first came out, Death Roll Records was the
Speaker 1: first label to have Bloods and Crips together. Bloods and
Speaker 1: Crips is very very serious gang bang. It was very
Speaker 1: very serious, speed the clock up to you got bloods
Speaker 1: and crypts doing songs together. Yeah, you got everybody cool
Speaker 1: with each other. Now you've got relationships with neighborhoods that
Speaker 1: used to kill each other, that love each other. That's
Speaker 1: why I love Nips so much, Nipsey and why g
Speaker 1: were like this and their bloods and crips and they
Speaker 1: loved each other forever, and that was unheard. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: you know, I do. I do. You made a good
Speaker 1: point right there, because if I come over here and
Speaker 1: you tell me about all the things I've done wrong,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna leave here like I don't like Jayden,
Speaker 1: but get me right, we're beautiful talking about anything. That's
Speaker 1: probably was the answer you was looking for when you
Speaker 1: were saying, what can we do? We can talk about
Speaker 1: how good we are what we're doing right there, you girl, Snoop,
Speaker 1: don't that make sense? Let's bring fish bowl out. That
Speaker 1: means there's some questions that the people ask from the public.
Speaker 1: I think so no Snoop Dog ain't gotten them of
Speaker 1: this block, all right, snore, get to go first. Let
Speaker 1: me do what you did. Then, I like that flipping
Speaker 1: flat jacks around here. I'm gonna take this one right
Speaker 1: here because it kills like it belongs to me. Matthew Darborn, Michigan.
Speaker 1: How did you get the name Snoop? Well, Matthew, um,
Speaker 1: my mother said, I used to watch a show called
Speaker 1: Charlie Brown and it was a character on their name Snoopy.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, And I used to like love him so much,
Speaker 1: and she started calling me Snoopy and then went from
Speaker 1: Snoopy to Snoop Dogg And that's just what it is.
Speaker 1: So I have a fetish with Snoopy from Charlie Burnet.
Speaker 1: Let's see, all right, so miles from Oakland, Snoop, how
Speaker 1: did you and your family cope after the loss of
Speaker 1: your grandson? Actually, my son helped me cope because he
Speaker 1: was strong and he put out a message something to
Speaker 1: the effect that God warning his angel up there rather
Speaker 1: than down here, and it just it helped us heal
Speaker 1: knowing that that the baby wouldn't have to suffer, the
Speaker 1: baby wouldn't have to go through none of this. So
Speaker 1: it just put a you know what I'm saying, to
Speaker 1: put a bright smile on our face. We held ourselves
Speaker 1: and my and my son did. It was his son
Speaker 1: that he lost, but he was the one that put
Speaker 1: the the information which made us all strong. Yeah that's
Speaker 1: a beautiful one too, because that's so true. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a beautiful one, and that's a healing in this. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have a question, and it's not really from the fishball,
Speaker 1: but who do you seek counsel from? Like when you
Speaker 1: are in times of and we all have somebody that
Speaker 1: we go to. That's a great question. Mom Um. Well,
Speaker 1: in the beginning, I used to see counsel from Charlie
Speaker 1: Wilson from the Gap bed Um. Charlie Wilson helped keep
Speaker 1: my marriage together because it was times where I felt
Speaker 1: like I don't want to be in here no more.
Speaker 1: I want to go and being stupid, just being stupid period,
Speaker 1: and Charlie would bring me back to reality, like that's
Speaker 1: the best thing that ever happened to you. The music
Speaker 1: hasn't been married for a really long please believe it.
Speaker 1: Yeah now, because you're I mean, you've been married together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's been my girl for Yeah. If you're gonna love,
Speaker 1: you're gonna love love. Yeah. Yeah, because that's his high
Speaker 1: school sweetheart, right yea, Yeah, it's true. You can fall
Speaker 1: in love for a long time. It's just so you
Speaker 1: don't see that very often. You don't when you get
Speaker 1: to what we had. Now it's just all fun and
Speaker 1: we don't even argue. What argument last about five seconds?
Speaker 1: You want right like you want, you want. But that's
Speaker 1: Charlie Wilson has always been like that, that rock for
Speaker 1: me to bring me to reality. Like I don't caring
Speaker 1: about you being successful. That's your wife. That's the love
Speaker 1: of your life. When you're sick and you can't do
Speaker 1: it no more and they don't want to hear you
Speaker 1: no more. She's gonna be right there, get it together
Speaker 1: before she get gold being checked. Hello, you have to
Speaker 1: you have to want to be checked if you're going
Speaker 1: to check somebody. Yeah, said again, territory the ruler the game.
Speaker 1: We're gonna leave it right there. Yeah, we're gonna leave
Speaker 1: it right there. Part leave it with the uncle snoop.
Speaker 1: Is that girl powering here to the third degree generations
Speaker 1: of love? Yeah? Stand what I'm saying, Thank you all
Speaker 1: for having me to dance. I needed this. I needed
Speaker 1: this conversation with three beautiful women who have great insight
Speaker 1: and great intellect, and just to converse with y'all to
Speaker 1: show that this can happen often. Just thank you for
Speaker 1: your trust, honest Jay, I know how you get out.
Speaker 1: I'm going to come to your house anyway. Hey, are
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