WEBVTT - What Snoop Dogg Wants Everyone to Know 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.480 Hey, fam I'm Jada Pinkett Smith and this is the 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:05.840 Red Table Pop podcast, all your favorite episodes from the 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:10.040 Facebook watch show in audio produced by Westbrook Audio and 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:13.120 I Heart Radio. Please don't forget to rate and review 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:18.840 on Apple podcasts. On this Red Table Talk it started 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:23.400 an international controversy. Now for the first time, Snoop Dogg 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.560 comes to the Red Table for healing session. I've had 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.600 a bit of a complicated relationship with you from Afar, 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:32.559 and you can understand that when you first said what 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:35.280 you said, you know in regards to Gail, we expect 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:37.920 more from you. Gail, respect the family and back off 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:43.440 my heart trucks. You may think it was more people 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:45.600 against me, It was more people with and I wanted 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:47.559 to make sure that the message was across that we 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:51.160 love Kobe and be respectful of Vanessa and those kids. 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:53.920 Have you talked to Gail? What did your mama say 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.760 to you? When someone becomes a superhero, it's our job 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:12.840 to protect that superhero. This will be my first time 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:17.000 meeting Snoop. You're kidding me, you've never met him in person. 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:22.160 If we've crossed paths, but we've never met met How 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:26.959 interesting is that? Especially considering how close here? I know, 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:38.760 I'm excited. Yeah, snoop dogg. Hey ladies, what's up? Girls? 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:43.080 Who is happening this? Snoop? What's up? Believe this is 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:48.680 like our first time actually meeting, meeting right right. I'm 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.320 happy you're here. I'm happy to be here. What's up? Mother? 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:58.440 I'll say where you get it from? A welcome? Thank you? 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:03.960 Hello girl, I'm good, hurry doing good? I'm good. All right, Well, 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:07.440 let's go to show me. Leave me to this red 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.440 table whereverybody's been chopping it up. Let me give me 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:14.280 some game in here. What the devil is this? You 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:16.560 know I'm a fashion guy. First, I'm gonna enjoy my 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.200 uh see if I get my walk on on this 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:27.040 right here? Oh oh wow, I finally made it to 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.520 the table. Yes, this is it right here, And thank 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:33.320 you all for having me real talk. And I love 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.640 what y'are doing as far as three generations of how 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.000 mama you and then baby girl and how y'all really 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.000 just be real about it. There's so many broken homes 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.400 y'all showing y'all showing together this. We need this, we try, 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:49.400 We're trying. You're doing good. Welcome to a special Red Table. 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:53.359 As you know, the last few weeks there's been controversy 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:58.560 around Snoop and GAYL King. This conversation is not about 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:02.440 taking sides. This conversation is not about trying to prove 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:06.800 who's right or who's wrong. This conversation is about healing. 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:11.200 I looked at this as a huge opportunity to talk 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:16.680 about the wounds and culture of disrespect between black men 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.680 and black women. And I want everyone to know that 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.880 I invited Snoop to the table, and I also invited 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.959 GAYL King to the table. GAYL King has an open 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.680 invite for whenever she wants to come. First of all, 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:33.200 this is great because you know, you and I have 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:37.000 been around for a long time, and along the way, 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.840 I had a bit of a complicated relationship, you know, 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.520 with you from Afar. You can understand that. But there's 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:49.200 two times in your career where I really I just 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.920 had to cheer for you, hardcore. Thank you. I don't 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:54.800 want to get emotional about the one I'm about to 0:03:54.800 --> 0:04:01.640 talk about, Homie Tight again. I cried to I just camera. 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:04.320 This is this is a deep one because you don't 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:08.200 know about this, but during that whole pop Shook Night thing, right, 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.120 and I'm really glad that you and should have made peace. 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.840 Let me start there, because that's deeply important. Okay, so 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.839 I'm so glad about that, But I have to admit 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:22.920 that doing those very complicated times, you were the only 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.320 person that came out and stood up to Shug Knight 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:30.720 and spoke out and for me during a time where 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.320 I really felt like my hands were tied and I 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:37.040 was powerless, the fact that you were like, I'm not 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:41.200 having it, I'm not having it. There were still people 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.520 that I cared about that were entangled in that mix 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.320 in a certain way, and the fact that you were 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:50.120 willing to set boundaries gave me a relax right and 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.040 just the message that extent and it kind of took 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:57.680 the boogie off the boogeyman. I get it, I trust me, 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.240 I get it. That was such a painful time, but 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.200 you had to take your stands on you know what, 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:05.840 This is not my fight, Yeah, Snoop. Can I just 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:10.440 tell you that's the brotherhood sisterhood that we must create 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.320 without talking. You get what I'm saying. I shouldn't have 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:15.839 to talk to you to get your back, but that's 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.320 what I'm saying, Snoop. So then here we go. The 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:23.280 second time, all right, the second time I was rooting 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:27.800 for you was your apology to Gail King. Can I 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:32.520 just tell you why when you first said what you said, 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:38.120 you know in regards to Gail, my heart trots. I 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.560 felt like, not only were you talking to Gail, but 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.880 she were talking to me. I was like, oh no, 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.240 Snoop has now taken his power flow away from me, 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:52.159 away from Willow, away from my mother. Right. I was like, 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:56.360 if this is what's happening, I was like, not, Snoop, 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.440 let me ask how you even got in at space 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:03.080 because I know that you have dealt with a lot 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:08.120 of loss recently, which is a matter of me losing 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:11.640 control because we still have a swallow nip. We're still 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.400 in golf, and that that's still in our heart right now. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:17.119 We still hurt behind that. And then Kobe and his daughter. Yeah, 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.920 and then you lost of grandson recently that I lost 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:23.039 of grand grandmother. So it's like and then I got 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:26.440 to be stronger front everybody remember that point. Yeah, he 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.040 got to turn it on. It's time to be Snoop again. 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.239 But what about what I want to cry? What about 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.400 when I'm hurt and I'm feeling bad, and I feel disgusted, 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:36.000 and I want to be angry, and I want to 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.520 just blar it out. I can't. I let my emotions 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.120 get the best of me. I was frustrated on top 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:46.280 of just just Thenny and doing it the wrong way. 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.160 Talk to us a little bit about your relationship with 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:55.160 Kobe and what made it so um yeah, painful when 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:59.320 you saw that interview. Kobe was like the son and 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.159 the brother to l a that we that we all needed, 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.920 and we all loved him for that. You know, from 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:08.040 the early nineties to his last days of playing basketball, 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:13.080 we watched him growing to a man, a father, mentor 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.120 a leader, and he was the kind of guy that 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.600 was forgiving. He was the kind of guy that was apologetic. 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.000 So I had to take that on and say, let 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:22.800 me put a little bit of him and me. But 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:26.640 our relationship was based off of just being fans. I'm 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.560 a fan of his, he was a fan of mis 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.160 I loved everything he didn't own the court, off the court. 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.200 I loved him as a father to his daughters and 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.040 how he was transforming into that man that we all 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.160 want to be. Yeah, we all want to be that 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.520 man that's loved by the kids and their wife had 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.320 just to stand up. Guy, Like, to get to that 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:48.840 point in life is hard. Hard. When this whole Gail 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:53.320 thing came up, I do feel like there was a 0:07:53.360 --> 0:08:01.920 lot of anger built up, built up, like black man furious. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:09.000 I have not seen that as a collective in a 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:15.600 long well. Of course, we just came from behind closed doors, 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:20.080 and it's it's a collective feeling of you guys are 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:24.600 targeting us, you guys are coming after us, you guys 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:28.960 are us. A lot of Black men felt attacked, you know, 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:34.319 and that we as black people on both sides, you know, 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.160 how the wounds that we have to deal with as 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:42.840 a community. How I think we expect each other to 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:46.360 have a bit more sensitivity, you know what I mean, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:51.160 especially for our superheroes. When someone becomes a superhero. We 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.600 don't have a lot of them, but when someone becomes 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:57.160 a superhero, it's our job to protect that superhero. So 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.800 that's why we have that in our hearts while y'all 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:03.680 acking us right after we make it. Do you think 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.280 that some of that feeling of like you're targeting us, 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.840 like that feeling comes from almost like maybe a shared 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:14.760 or like passed down PTSD, like psychologically and emotionally from 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:17.079 our history in the school. You hit it right on 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.680 the you know what I mean, it's automatically we feel 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.439 like we're targeted. Yes, we get caught up in our 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:24.800 pains and we just want to like we want to, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.719 we want which is the most human hand? When did 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:32.000 you realize that this was now a national debate? It 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:36.079 got bad fast. It went' from me just entny to 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:41.880 a maddened Yeah, got the whole world in the uproar. 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:46.439 And what's crazy is you may think it was more 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.600 people against me, It was more people with me. We know, 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:54.760 I saw that strange. Thank you said, we've been on 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:58.560 the same right, But you shouldn't have said it like that. 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:03.320 That you get that, and I'm a man, Yeah, don't bother. 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.000 It was how but that it just shows that I 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.679 needed to be bigger, right, because I could have created 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.440 a worse situation by saying, you know what, they with me? 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:17.000 So I'm right. No, No, there's always some wrong in 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:20.440 the right right. You just have to look forward. And 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.560 I went looking for it. Yeah, I wentn't looking for 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:24.520 because I wanted to make sure that what I said 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.520 was said the right way, and I wanted to make 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:30.200 sure that the message was across that we love Kobe 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:34.000 and be respectful of Vaness and those kids. That's what 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:38.480 the whole intent was, to protect that woman and them 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.720 babies over there because she's still grieving and let's give 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:47.040 them that respect. How did it make you feel when 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:52.880 you saw what was happening in regards to your words, 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.400 when you saw how people reacted. It made me feel 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:03.680 like I had much power and at that particular time, 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:08.560 I was abusing it mm hmm. And that's just what 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:12.280 I felt, and I had to get it right right. 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:17.079 I want to talk about the turn that happened that 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:20.040 made you decide to apologize in the way that you did, 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.040 because that's so powerful. It was like I was, like, 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:26.840 you know, I'm a great person as far as understanding 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.440 when I'm wrong. Like I like being an example of 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.800 wrong the right because my whole career is based off 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.080 of being wrong and right. So I get it and 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.839 I understand and I love being that example. But this 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:41.360 time was different because Mama called, what did your mama 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:44.800 say to Well, my mother raised me in church and 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:47.120 she raised me to respect women. So it was just 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:48.880 certain things that she said to me that took me 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.079 back to being a little kid. And when your mama 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:53.760 can make you feel like a kid, that's when you 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.720 got to get right. I didn't feel grown. I didn't 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.640 feel like I was Snoop Dogg the wrapper. I felt 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:06.319 like Opie, like okay, all right. And she didn't said 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:11.480 I was wrong. She just was just giving me yes, yes, 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:16.040 your representation of us, Yes, us, every woman that ever 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:20.200 crossed your life, your representation of that. So I got it, 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.640 and I didn't tell my team. I didn't go to 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.800 my publicist and say, hey, guys, I'm planning on I 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.360 just did it and then I hit him with it. 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:31.400 So I would like to apologize to you publicly for 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.679 the language that I used and calling you out of 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.720 your name and just being disrespectful. And I was like, wow, 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.960 we were thinking about putting together a tweet. You don't 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:43.240 have to a tweet ain't the heart. Sometimes to tweet 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.040 get misread. I misunderstood. When I'm talking to you and 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.320 you're looking into my eyes and you're hearing me, it's 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:52.240 a real it's a real respect of the apology is authentic, 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:56.400 it's sincere, and I'm really sorry. Yeah, have you talked 0:12:56.400 --> 0:13:00.040 to no but I've reached out through her friends, with 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.240 her associates, and I even d m her sitting her prayer, 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:05.640 let her know I apologize to it. Just doing all 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.040 the things that I could do to just put my 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.800 effort forward, you know what I'm saying, because I was wrong. 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.360 I said I loved to meet with you privately. That 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.240 was my last that was my last soul, that was 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.480 my last line, just to make sure that it wasn't 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.240 going to be watered down and deluded where I can 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.559 actually give her a hug, looking her eyes and talk 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.560 to it like we're talking. Yeah, this is a little 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.439 bit different than you know what I'm saying. You know, 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.960 it's much different because just just feeling the beauty of 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:36.800 your spirit snoop, Right, you gotta love e dovey spirit. 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:40.240 You got to take away any of his gangster You 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:43.920 can that from a text. You can't feel that from 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:47.560 a tweet, right Me. Apologizing was a big difference because 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:49.960 people didn't expect that. They thought I was gonna hold 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.320 onto my gangster and be like, you know, saying what 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.600 I said, and people looking up to me and saying, well, 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.599 I like what you did, Snow, how can we better ourselves? 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.040 Correct my stakes? And not feel ashamed and not feel 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:05.680 less of a man because I said I'm sorry, and 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:07.880 that's usually what it is. You just man up and 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:09.760 deal with it. That I don't mind being checked, yea, 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.160 because if I'm wrong, check me. Because I don't want 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.199 to keep repeating my mistakes, because I want to be 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.680 a better person. I got kids, grandkids, you know, my 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:22.000 mom and them and her friends and Auntie them. I 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:27.320 can call you again. You had me. You know what 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.200 I'm saying. I want to be in the church dog 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:32.520 out right. I love you saying I don't mind being 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.560 checked because that means you're always open to learning, right, 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:39.560 And that's it. That's all we can do. All the 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.520 student enough studying. When this thing happened with Gail, I 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:48.280 got calls from Tyler, Perry Puff, Daddy Van Jones, like 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.640 powerful black men, and they didn't bash me, and they 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.240 just was, brother, we got you back, you know if 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.960 you need, but we thank you. You should have said 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.680 it right. See how they got to that and just 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:02.360 start off with that. It's a big difference. What you 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.720 get what's happening in I'm gonna mantch energy with energy 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.000 you get at me? What the hey, brother, We're just 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:09.840 calling them. Let you know we support you and we 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:11.560 love you. You know, you could have want to buy 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:15.720 a little bit differently you think, so yeah, all right, 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:19.560 what what could I do? Thank you, brother, I appreciate you. 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.480 We got a real brotherhood going on behind the scenes. 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:28.359 I love hearing that many prominent women express their appreciation 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:32.960 for your public apology to GAYL King and Dr Ian Lovin, 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.720 Zan send a message to oh Wow, I'm scared of her. 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:42.320 I'm over here with Willow like old what I indeed 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:46.640 now deep bow to you, my sister woman Jada, and 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.760 I thank you for this opportunity and for this conversation 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:54.080 that we're having. And to you, my beloved Snoop, I 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:59.720 honor your courage, your integrity, and the demonstration of leadership 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:04.880 that you are for apologizing for your behavior. I don't 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:09.800 believe that the culture of disrespect is new, specifically African 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:15.480 American people. We have been programmed and conditioned and educated 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:21.200 in a society that expects us to accommodate, tolerate, and 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:26.880 accept both public and personal disrespect. My challenge to Snoop 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:31.760 and anyone else involved, particularly those of us who have 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:36.320 a public forum, is to say and do only those 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:39.880 things that will facilitate healing, and I believe that's what 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:47.040 the apology did. Okay, that's the doctor. She Actually, that's 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:52.320 a great brought up because we are programmed, we are conditioned, 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.840 and see, when you identify then you know better. So 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.560 Male Health is a sports journalist and also has a 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.600 very special message just for you, Jamail. Yeah, yeah, that's 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:05.440 my girl. She got mad at me when I when 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:07.760 I took off on guild on the first half, feelings 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.000 You're gonna check me if I'm wrong, Snoop, I want 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:13.040 to thank you for apologizing. I know what you said. 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:15.359 It was out of character and coming from a place 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.480 of hurt, but we need to find a way that 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.720 we can correct one another dialogue with each other without 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:24.040 it potentially causing harm. Black men in this country have 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.639 been made to feel like a target, and the weight 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:29.840 of that hurt and pain that they've absorbed from the 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:33.600 world comes back in our direction. Sometimes we are made 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:39.159 the targets simply because we are a very easy group 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.159 to take out your frustrations on. No matter where you 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.960 are and what your hierarchy is in this society, we're 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.080 guaranteed to be on the bottom of the tolden pole 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.120 and look snoo. If you know how much I love 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:53.560 you and respect you, you wanted to o GS in 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:57.320 this game. I think that you apologizing was a really 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:02.000 big thing. I appreciate that as somebody who has always 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.560 placed you in a prominent position in our community, and 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.760 just in knowing you and knowing how you've treated me 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.719 when they came for me, you were one of my supporters, 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:13.520 So you know, I just appreciate the fact that you 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:17.159 were able to help us push this conversation along in 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:23.320 a positive direction. Yes, And that's heavy because because when 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.879 they went after her, I was there, like there for her, 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.560 like what you want me to do, like it's real, 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.960 like black Man fashion, like with the soldiers ready to 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:34.879 go when it's like to hear that. It helped me 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.600 step back and say, how many women in my life 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:42.879 that depend on me, that need me and I need them? 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.919 And there's so many right that you don't even know, 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.199 just like when I told you that story earlier, you 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:51.560 don't even know what that did for me. And I 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:55.879 think sometimes we just lose sight of how much we 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.439 need each other so that we can all just stand 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:05.600 proud and together in power. If we don't have y'all, 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:09.840 we got nobody when I have a couple of ideas 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:15.800 of how disrespect is cultivated between black men and black women. 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:20.159 I think one of the most difficult obstacles that we 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:24.040 have to deal with is that there's still so much 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:28.879 misogyny in our culture. So what do we do to 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.919 try to change that? Are trying to be one individual 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.760 when you've actually been a part of the problem. I 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:37.960 admit that I've been the one that said nigger bitches holes. 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.320 I used that my whole seven to ten years of 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:43.040 my first beginning of my career, So it's kind of 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:46.040 hard to like take those words out of the equation 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.439 when I got to do shows that people love that 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:52.920 song for those words. So just last year, you came 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:56.439 out with a new album and it almost seems like 0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:01.240 you had a relax you went back to the calling 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:06.520 women bitches, And let me explain to you, it's it's 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.679 hard to let go something that you've been accustomed to 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.159 your whole life, your whole life and something that you 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:15.080 really trying to work on. Is sometimes where it's like, 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:18.040 oh man, I had a back. It used to be 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:22.160 a time when my music was everything. You know. Snoop's music, 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:25.119 his songs, his words. But once you become a grown 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:29.040 man and you realize that your words have powercussion and 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:32.000 you have power, then you have to pull back. And 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:33.919 even me and Pop got into it because he was 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:36.879 like he wanted me to stay gangster, and I was like, 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:40.919 cuz I got a baby on the way, I'd just 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:43.760 be the murder case. I have a lot to live for. 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:46.720 He had no kids, pocket and I used to get 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:51.480 into his usage of bitch and home. We got into 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:54.960 a hard core He could give you this beautiful record, 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:59.919 and I was like when and he's like, I'm not 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:03.760 talking about you. And it's as we was torn though, 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:05.760 like to be able to do this and that it's 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:07.760 like he wasn't talking about you, but he had to 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.720 talk to those that was out there. So here's the thing. 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:16.960 Though he tried his best to define from me. He 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:22.399 tried to define from me the difference, which of course 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:26.080 never no sense at all. Right, So you're saying your 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:28.080 definition would make no sense. I'm not gonna try to 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:31.639 explain because I felt like in the beginning that was 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:33.879 a word that was brainwashed, that was taught to me, 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:36.480 and I just misused and I just kept just throwing 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:37.920 it out there, throwing it out there, and I've saying 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:41.520 it came back to me on the girl because I 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:43.280 got rid of it to a certain extent, and Mom 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:48.760 only called him one time. Two years ago. I put 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.760 out a gospel album, the whole album that was just 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:57.159 gospel clean. Nobody wanted to talk about that. But the 0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:00.480 minute I say, bitch hole. But that's what that's a problem. 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:04.040 And we do right, we don't get commended. So it's 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:07.040 easy for us to backslide when no one's going to say, man, 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:09.720 that was beautiful what you did. Keep up the great work. 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:12.880 That sounded good. So what do you think, Snoop, How 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:18.600 can we because we have all these wounds that that 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:21.240 we deal with as a community. Because I really feel 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:25.320 like the relationship between black men and black women, those 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:29.000 wounds run so deep on so many levels because a 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:33.399 lot I'm starting your house with grandmama, mama, then it 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:35.679 seeps out into your relationships with the women that you have. 0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:39.440 Let me ask you a question. I often wonder if 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:46.040 the relationship between black men and women, and sometimes the 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:50.199 complicated relationships that black men have with their mothers, because 0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:54.240 usually we are the only ones there in the household right, 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:57.679 And it's complex because I think a black son knows 0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:01.800 that his mama has been the only one yeah there 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:05.199 for him. But as you and on both know, just 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:09.280 in male nature that once a young man is growing 0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:11.920 up and starts ramming a little get away from mama, 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:15.320 he wants to get away from Mama. But also I 0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:18.760 think sometimes how mama has to put control in on 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:23.359 her black son, it works against her sometimes sometimes because 0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:26.200 he becomes angry and mad towards the girl that he's 0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:28.280 work based off of the way his mother treated him. 0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:31.480 Because I remember when I first left my house, me 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:34.280 and my wife used to argue about you ain't my mama, 0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:36.680 how you gonna tell me what? And that was the 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:38.440 first thing I had to get rid of to stop 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:41.600 saying that because I kept looking at her as my mother, 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:43.480 like when you say something to me. I left my 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:45.000 mama house because I didn't want to be told what 0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:49.040 to do. God, but that's just me being wrong, Like, 0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:51.919 stop judging you off of how my mother raised me, 0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:53.479 and look at us for who we are. There were 0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:56.520 times when my mother was like, I will take your 0:23:56.560 --> 0:24:00.359 ass outside and slam you on that call. Mama did it, 0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:03.520