1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Stay right here for our final news round up and 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: information overload. 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: All right, News Roundup and information overload hour toll free. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,159 Speaker 2: Your number is eight hundred nine four one, Sean. If 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: you want to be a part of the program. You know, 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: when you get involved in the legal system, it is 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: not a fun thing. 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 3: And I know people who have been involved. 9 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: One of the things that bothers me about a lot 10 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: of prosecutors is I think over time many of them 11 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: this for them, it becomes a battle of will. It 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: becomes about winning and losing, when when really, Lady justice 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: ought to be the goal. In other words, if there's 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: enough evidence that suggest that's exculpatory, that suggests that somebody 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: you know is not involved in any real criminal activity 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: or doesn't meet the statute level, or what we were 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: talking about in the last hour with Bill O'Reilly. You 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: know the forty one crimes brought by Fanny Willis down 19 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: in Georgia. Most of these require various forms of what's 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: known as the criminal state of mind. In other words, 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 2: that a perpetrator would need to be aware that they're 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: doing something unlawful. Well, how do you get inside somebody's 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: mind and find their true intentions? 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 3: Now? 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes there might be damning evidence that would prove that 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: I am doing this because I'm taking this election, whether 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: I want or lost, Okay, that would be pretty damning evidence. 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,919 Speaker 2: One such case, and it did involve the special counsel 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: Jack Smith, and this was former Virginia Governor Bob McDonald. 30 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: And anyway, he was charged with fourteen counts relating to 31 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: what prosecutors at the time alleged was the acceptance of 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty five thousand dollars in gifts. Now 33 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: this he was found guilty on eleven corruption counts. Now, 34 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: the case made it all the way to the US 35 00:01:53,960 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: Supreme Court. J Seculo arguing on behalf of former Governor MacDonald, 36 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: and the Supreme Court, by nine to zero vacated the 37 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: lower court's conviction the whole thing. Anyway, former Virginia Governor 38 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: Bob McDonald is with us. Sir, how are you. 39 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me on again. I appreciate it 40 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: and being on the show last night. Really grateful to 41 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: tell a little bit of the Troy. Just one one 42 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: quick footnote And I didn't bring this report. Jay Sekla 43 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: was a very important strategist and part of our case. 44 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: The Supreme court case was actually argued by the great 45 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: Nol Francisco, former Solicitor General the United States under Donald Trump. 46 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I knew Jay had some involvement in it, 47 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: that's all I apologize, great. 48 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: Strategist, And that twenty eight million dollars that was the 49 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: sticker price of the legal fees. But Sean, you know, 50 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: I been a public servant for thirty eight years, had 51 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: a legal defense fund that raise a little over a million. 52 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: But there's no way a person like me or any 53 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: average person can pay you know, those kind of sees. 54 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: So that'll that'll be a long time paying that. 55 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: How many years do you think this took off your life? 56 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: I guess you know, for four years, probab maybe if 57 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: you figured out how to compartmentalize all this and deal 58 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: with the stress that inevitably would come with this. 59 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: What was it? What were those four years? 60 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: Like, well, it's almost three and a half to the day, 61 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: but another another year before that that there was an investigation. 62 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: Of course, I didn't know much about it until there's 63 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: an Easter Sunday front page above the story fold in 64 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: the Washington Post, which followed about another eighteen months of 65 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: literally almost lappable regular leaks by the government of the 66 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: Washington Post, including grand jury information, all to kind of 67 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: taint the jury pool, and I think try to weaken, 68 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: weaken my resolve, Sean. But I mean we told them 69 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: from the very beginning, there's no violation of the law here. 70 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: You know, there's no play agreement. We're going to We're 71 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: going to fight this tooth and nail. And you know, 72 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: I was really fortunate I'd do the top terms in 73 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: the country Jones Day home the night that said you 74 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: are there's no crime here. We're going to fight this 75 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: for you. But the poll on not just me, Sean, 76 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: but my my wife, my kids. Uh, four of the 77 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: fi I've hauled in front of a grand jury essentially 78 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: insinuation that if they cooperated with their parents and worked 79 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: with their parents, you know, my own kids. That there 80 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: was the obstruction charges, similar with some of my staff members. 81 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: And then the impact on the commonwealth. You know, I'm 82 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: still trying to govern my last eleven months in office 83 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: and do good things with the people, and I've got, 84 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, this this battle. But you know what I 85 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: just say, just looking down the road now, in the 86 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: last seven years since the cases that I were you know, 87 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: God is in the restoration business. I'm back practicing law 88 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: of consulting, teaching on a number of boards, and I've 89 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: had a lot of redemption in my life. And so 90 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: many people came to my aid, Democrats and Republicans around 91 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 1: the country during that time with Amicus Brie's being filed 92 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: shown to help me get vendicated. 93 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: How many das around the country wrote on this particular 94 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: case and stood up for you. 95 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was astounding. There were thirteen amicus briefs filed, 96 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: perhaps the two lead ones that were quoted by Justice 97 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: Robertson in his unanimous opinion by the ways eight and nothing. 98 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: Justice Scalia, as you may recall, died two months literally 99 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: before the oral argument. 100 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: I stand corrected, But with all due respect, I know 101 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: Justice Scalia, I think I understand as his judicial philosophy 102 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: he would have been number nine. 103 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 4: Well he was. 104 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: He was the one that had written most of the 105 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: key opinions before that, basically saying all these statutes were 106 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: unconstitutionally vague, regardless of the fact. So there's no question 107 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: it would have been nine nine zero. But you know, 108 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: it was a it was a battle, and it was 109 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: just one footnote. You know, Eric Holder was attorney to state. 110 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: The time we asked to meet with Eric Holder, he 111 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: would not meet with him, but the Deputy Attorney General 112 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: and other lead prosecutors met met with my attorneys. We 113 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: gave him about a thirty eight page brief outlining all 114 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: the law of the land on the case, law of 115 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: the statutes. Why they're their boundless series, as John Roberts 116 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: called it, of interpreting this law with their novel theories, 117 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: their two transactional immunity deals for the for the CEO 118 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: businessman who was doing other stuff that we didn't know 119 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: about that was wrong. Why his testimony was you know, 120 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't be believable, and yet they persisted pull the trigger 121 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: and ironically, John Roberts opinion three years later, looked a 122 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: lot like that brief we gave them. And I just think, 123 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: you know, they were much more interested, I think, to 124 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: the point you made at the top of the show 125 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: in winning than getting it right. But the amicus bracers too. 126 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: One every former White House Council now think about this, 127 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: from Ronald Reagan to Barack Obama. The Obama administration's prosecuting me, 128 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: and yet one of their previous White House Council joins 129 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: the brief along with three other Attorneys General of the 130 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: United States and spells out in very strong detail Wireless 131 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: is wrong in his theory of the law could not stand. 132 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: And then Attorney's General of the States forty six separate 133 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: states Democrats and Republicans, like actually more Democrats lately than Republicans, 134 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: but eighty three filed a brief on my behalf as well. 135 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: And then many other Harvard law professors, etc. So it 136 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: was an outpouring, some of which we asked for, some 137 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: of which just happened, Sean, because people saw the case 138 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: for what it was thought Jack Smith was wrong and 139 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: filed these briefs, and they were very instructive to the judges. 140 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: You know, I'm just looking at where we are now, 141 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: and it seems like we've completely criminalized political differences here. 142 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: You know, I ran through the criminal intent, a bar 143 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: that needs to be reached when it comes to Fulton 144 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: County in the case that was charged Donald Trump this week, 145 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: and I think that's a very hard high bar to reach, 146 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: you know. You know, if you ask me if Donald 147 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: Trump could pass a light detective test that he thinks 148 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: there was fraud in Georgia in the twenty twenty election, 149 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: he'd pass that light detector test. I believe that with 150 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: all my heart. I interviewed him as many times as 151 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: I have. And on the other side of this, then 152 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: you look at Florida and Okay, they have the document 153 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: case they raid mar A Lago. It's about top secret 154 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: classified documents, and yet Hillary Clinton had more of them 155 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen and James comy a is the infamous 156 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: press conference and says, yeah, we found all of these 157 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: top secret classified documents on her server, and yeah, we 158 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: believe it was hacked, but no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute. 159 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: When they talk about the potential of the destruction of 160 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: surveillance video, Well, Hillary Clinton destroyed thirty three thousand subpoenaed 161 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: emails and devices that might have had copies of them 162 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: with hammers and nothing happened to her. 163 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 3: So I'm great. 164 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: And Joe Biden had top secret classified documents at four 165 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: separate locations, no rate against him. So I'm very concerned 166 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: about unequal justice under the law. Dual justice system, you know, 167 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: or we don't have equal application of our laws, and 168 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: we weaponized the justice system that is the executive branch, 169 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 2: that is Joe Biden's. 170 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: You know that last comment is the greatest concern that 171 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: I have. As we discussed last night, Sean, when you 172 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: when you have a prosecutor who I believe in my 173 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: takeaways from my own case, like a Jack Smith, you 174 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: know who is obviously Harvard log guy had a good 175 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: career prosecuting the international crimes et cetera for the United States. 176 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: But over the five years that he was out of 177 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: the Public Integrity Section, you know, it was advising Lois 178 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: Learner that was okay to go after conservatives for basically 179 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: free speech issues. It's non tax exempt organizations. It was 180 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: the Bob Menendez case which ended in a hung jury, 181 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: the mistrial with John Edwards, and then my case. You know, 182 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: he was he may be partisan in his own philosophy, 183 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: but he has a pension for going after high profile 184 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: cases a Democrat and republ look in and stretching the 185 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: law beyond the breaking point. John Roberts called a boundless interpretation, 186 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: which makes it essentially a fake statute. 187 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: And even Justice Bryar had strong comments and voted in 188 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: your favor and voted to vacate this. 189 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you brought that up, because you know 190 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: we thought Justice Scalia, of course, would be the champion, 191 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: and then as as they would have it, he passed away. 192 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: But the champion at the oral argument in April twenty 193 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: sixteen with Stephen Bryer, I mean he spent he probably 194 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: dominated half the argument that the government and from the 195 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: very beginning he and John Roberts just completely discrediting the theory. 196 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: And I get you know, this is the quote of 197 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: Stephen Bryerny after the listeners General's question. He said, for me, 198 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: looking at the facts of this case and looking at 199 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: giving this kind of power to a federal prosecutor who 200 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: is virtually uncontrollable to the determine what the bounds of 201 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: the law are is his biggest separation of powers problem 202 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: as I've ever seen. This is liberal justice, you know, 203 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: liberal justice, Stephen Bryer, and I think he was exactly right. 204 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: And why the statutes have to be narrowly constrained, and 205 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: why prosecutors who would rather winmen get it right, who 206 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: don't call balls and strikes but find a target and 207 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: then go and find the fact that they can make up, 208 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, the theory of the law. Why that's just 209 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: dangerous for America and That's what leads to this weaponization 210 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: of the system where you target people when with the 211 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: tremendous resources of the government, you target them because they're 212 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: high profile. You stretch the law and hopefully you taint 213 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: them in front of a jury so you can find 214 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: twelve citizens that'll convict him. That's the danger, and thank god, 215 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: that's why we have a Supreme Court of the United 216 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: States that's got it right in so many of these 217 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: cases and reverse Jackson. 218 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 2: Is it fair to say that one loses four years 219 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: of their life Now, I've interviewed Roger Stone, I've interviewed 220 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: Paul Mataford. I mean, you look at their particular cases, 221 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: all based on this phony Russia collusion hoax. You know, 222 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: John Durham report, Operation Crossfire Hurricane never should have been 223 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 2: opened to Durham report in great detail. There wasn't a 224 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: single point or fact of fact in the dirty dossier 225 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: that Hillary paid for. But yet that dossier, even though 226 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 2: the FBI early October twenty sixteen, offered the author, Chris Steele, 227 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: a million plus dollars if he could corroborate any part 228 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: of it, he couldn't collect a penny. By the end 229 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: of the month, they were using it as the basis 230 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 2: of that visa application, which at the top says verified 231 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: and nobody's held accountable. I mean, what are Americans to 232 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 2: think at this moment of time they can get away 233 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: with that type of line to a court. If I 234 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: ever lied to a court governor, they throw me away, 235 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: they locked me up, throw away the key, and I'd 236 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 2: never be seen or heard from again. I'd be talking 237 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: to myself, to my show, for myself, to myself every day. 238 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: Well, felony's a persuer under American law. But you ask 239 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: the key question, what are they going to think? And 240 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: that's the question in every one of these four cases. 241 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: What are twelve citizens sitting in judgment based on the 242 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: facts of the case. You know, as you pointed out 243 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: last night, you're going to die to ham Sandwich. But 244 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: what's the evidence that's going to come in? And then 245 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: will a jury to try to interpret the law based 246 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: on the jury instructions? Will they find a violation? And 247 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: you put together that, You've got the John Durham Report, 248 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,599 Speaker 1: it's pretty scathing against even having the special counsel. You 249 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: got Robert Muller, who was criticized as a partisan. But 250 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: look at the end of the day called balls and strikes, 251 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: and he said, there's no crime here. You've had two 252 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: failed impeachments, you've had this Russian collusion since before the 253 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: president actually got torn in, and now you've got four 254 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: cases that are all set for trial in the going 255 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: to be set for trial, likely in the first six 256 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: months of an election year, when he's the leading candidate 257 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: for the president of the United States. 258 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 5: I think John, even in the. 259 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: End, the voters, which control every election, the nonpartisans, look 260 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: at that and think there's just something not right here. 261 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: The justice system, which I believe Sean is a former 262 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: prosecutor and former attorney genteral myself, is the best in 263 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: the world. It's not perfect, and in high profile cases 264 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: like this, we get it wrong when there's prosecutors that 265 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: would rather win than get it right. And I think 266 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: a jury, at least one jury member is likely to 267 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: think this is way over the top. They haven't proved that. 268 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: It's been a long standing challenge trial to try to 269 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: get this gentleman. We're going to let him go. 270 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: I'm not sure Donald Trump can get a fair trial 271 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: in New York City, Washington, d C. Or Fulton County, 272 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: and that concerns that jets should be concerning obviously to him, 273 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: but concern every American as well, because justice should be 274 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: blind and we should have equal justice under the law 275 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: and equal application of our laws. Governor, I know you've 276 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: got an event you've got to run to. Thank you 277 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: for sharing your story, and I hope some of these 278 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: prosecutors pull back. It's not about winning or losing. It's 279 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: about Okay, what's right justice? 280 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 3: What what is you know? What's right? Fair for everybody? 281 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: I don't want Republican ags going after people just because 282 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: they disagree with them politically. 283 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: We don't want that, all right. 284 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: Joe Biden opens his mouth and after he says the 285 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: word partisan, see if you can ascertain what it is 286 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: that he's actually saying. 287 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 6: But then when I signed the biparts INFRALUCU again wishment, 288 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 6: which Ron Johnson's right back. 289 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: Let's play it again. The word after bipartisan, What is 290 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: that word? 291 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 6: But then when I signed the byparts INFRALUCU again wishment, 292 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 6: which Ron Johnson's friends didn't vote. 293 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: Go back one more time. I still can't quite make 294 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: it out. Let's see what we can decipher this. 295 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 6: But then when I signed the Biparts Infloucu again wishment, 296 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 6: which Ron Johnson's friends didn't vote and they all voted against. 297 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 2: Nah, he's not incognitive, decline Hannity, It's very mean of 298 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: you to suggest us that, okay, and he's you know, 299 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: he's as strong as Honald Schwartz, and that you're back 300 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: in his hey day. 301 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: Can you play though started it all? Started it all? 302 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: What started it on? Look, I'll do what he's unable 303 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 3: to do. 304 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 6: I'll lay it affect the strategy to mobilize. True as 305 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 6: the pressure isolated, Plenti's China. 306 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: Oh so there's your oldie. But goodie, you're happy now. 307 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: And what we take her question? 308 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 3: Happier than making fire? Right, let me play. 309 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: Joe Biden seems to forget the word maui as he's 310 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: speaking about the wildfires. Now, remember he said he didn't 311 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: want to get in the way. The problem is is, well, 312 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: they're still looking for thirteen hundred people over one hundred 313 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: confirmed dead and getting in the way of what is 314 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: pretty much now a vast wilderness because the place has 315 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: been decimated. So I'm not sure how him going there 316 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: was such a big deal, although they made the I'm 317 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: going to. 318 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 3: Uh, what's it what's the name of that plays again? 319 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: Is it? 320 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 5: Ma? 321 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 3: Listen? 322 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 6: In the immediate aftermath, the Coast Guard and Navy supportive 323 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 6: maritime searches and rescue operations. The Army helicopters helped fire 324 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 6: suppression and efforts on the Big Island because there's still 325 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 6: some burning on the Big Island. Not the one is 326 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 6: not the one where you see on television all the time. 327 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 3: Uh huh, the Big Isle. Not the one you see 328 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 3: on television all the time. 329 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: That one? 330 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 2: What that one? We'll pick that one. Laurie is in 331 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 2: Idaho next Sean Hannity Show. Hi, Laurie, how are you. 332 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 7: I'm good? Thank you. I appreciate you taking my call. 333 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 7: And it's an honor to be able to talk to 334 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 7: you today. 335 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 3: Oh, it's an honor to have you. Glad you could 336 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 3: be with us. 337 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 7: Well, you're you're a good voice for American and I 338 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 7: really appreciate everything you say and the truth that you 339 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 7: put forth because it's so crazy, the way the things 340 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 7: we have to listen to. It's insane that I have 341 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 7: kind of a concern. I voted for Trump in the 342 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 7: last election and the one where he became our president. 343 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 7: I think he did a fabulous job. I'm amazed that 344 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 7: anyone can say otherwise. I think they must have blinders 345 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 7: on or be living in another universe. But I'm just 346 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 7: really concerned this time because of what happened in twenty twenty. 347 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 7: I feel like, what do we do. Like Trump's obviously 348 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 7: had I hope he's our president in twenty twenty four. 349 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 7: But what I'm concerned about is that I felt just 350 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 7: as confident in twenty twenty, So I would be devastated 351 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 7: if we had another four years. If someone Mike I'm 352 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 7: an office. 353 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 2: In it, I think the country in the world would 354 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: be devastated, to be honest, And you know, I'm very worried, 355 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 2: very concerned for the country and the world. I'm worried 356 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: about the state of the world. I think every hostile 357 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: regime is taking full advantage of the fact that the 358 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 2: US role in the world is completely diminished. 359 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: It's state. 360 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: They know this guy's compromise, and they're going to take 361 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: full advantage of it. And that means Russia, that means China, 362 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 2: that means I Ran, that means North Korea. Nobody fears 363 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: Joe Biden. And that's just a fact. And that's a 364 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: scary thing. And look at the numbers on the economy. 365 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: I talked about it earlier. They're just not good. Americans. 366 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 2: Wallets are empty, you know, the cost of Biden's inflation 367 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: spend as high as ten thousand dollars a year. Now 368 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: it's down to about eighty five hundred dollars a year. 369 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 2: That's money that people don't have. And how gas prices 370 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 2: are about to go up. 371 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: Again exactly, you know. And and we. 372 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 2: Have sixty one percent of our fellow Americans living paycheck 373 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 2: to paycheck. And the average American ohs fifty four thousand dollars, 374 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 2: has fifty four thousand dollars in debt, you know, and 375 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: you know all this Bidenomics, even fake news CNN pointing 376 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 2: out percent say they think the economy is still in 377 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: a downturn and getting worse than it is. You know, 378 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 2: it's look at the price of a look at the 379 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: price of mortgages. 380 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 3: What is that happening? 381 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: You know, Americans, Bidenomics, we have more homelessness according to 382 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 2: zero Hedge. You know, we're leaving more Americans are homeless 383 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 2: at a record rate thanks to Bidenomics. It's a disaster. 384 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: Gas prices right back to nearly four dollars a gallon. Again, 385 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: home builder sentiment drops sharply. Why because nobody can afford 386 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: a seven percent interest rate after years of having you know, 387 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 2: two three four percent interest rates. 388 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 3: Nobody can afford it. 389 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 2: Nobody's going to sell their home, you know, you want 390 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: to build new homes, Materials cost more. 391 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 7: All this obvious stuff around us. I mean, it's like 392 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 7: right in our faces. Who is in I mean, why 393 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 7: can't other people see that? Like, I don't understand how 394 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 7: anyone can turn a blind eye to that and think that, oh, 395 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 7: things are great right now and everything he's saying to 396 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 7: ISPs to true. It's all such nonsense. And I don't 397 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 7: understand why there aren't people who. 398 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 2: It's not good. And look what they're doing to Donald Trump. 399 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: You know, if you look at the calendar, and you 400 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: know I've gone over it in great specificity, in great detail, 401 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's you look at what Donald Trump 402 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: has to do in terms of his schedule. All right, 403 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: we have the first primary debate, what is it? I 404 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: believe next week I'm going to be in Wisconsin to 405 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 2: do the show after the debate, and I'll have the 406 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 2: candidates on and then all right, Donald Trump has to 407 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 2: turn himself into Georgia. Then in October, the civil trial 408 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: with the New York Attorney General ran on a platform 409 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 2: of getting one man on one family, one organization. Okay, 410 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 2: probably the you know, there's no legal jeopardy there, there's 411 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: only a financial jeopardy. But then January second, special Counsel 412 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 2: wants a trial in the DC case. January fifteenth, the 413 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 2: Iowa caucuses. That's also the date they have scheduled for 414 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: the e. Gene Carroll defamation case number two. Mid January 415 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: to early February, the New Hampshire primary will take place. 416 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: And now they're talking at the same time, what the 417 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: Georgia case is going to be brought South Carolina at 418 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: the end of February, almost the same exact time as 419 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: the Georgia case and Super Tuesdays on March fifth, and 420 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: then March twenty fifth, Trump, what now he begins the 421 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 2: New York City trial with Alvin Bragg. How does this 422 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: man run for president with that schedule? And then in 423 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: May SE's scheduled to begin the classified documents case in Florida. Right, Yeah, 424 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 2: They've made it pretty darn and possible logistically for him 425 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: to do it. 426 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 7: What are we supposed to do though, that's what I'm asking. 427 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 7: As popular as he is and as great as his numbers. 428 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: Are, unfortunately you are at the mercy now of our 429 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: judicial system, which in an of itself can be dominated 430 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: by judicial activism and judicial activists, and that should concern everyone. 431 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: I mean, there are people that believe in our constitution, 432 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: fundamental fairness, the rule of law, the presumption of innocence, 433 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 2: equal justice of the law, equal application of our laws. 434 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 2: And then there are people that are activists and legislate 435 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: from the bench or have political biases that they carry 436 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: in with them in these cases. 437 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: That should concern everybody. You know, d C. 438 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: I'd rank them this way. The worst venue for Donald 439 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: Trump is d C, New York City. Not far behind 440 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 2: right behind that is Fulton County, Georgia. I don't you know, 441 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 2: do you think Donald Trump deserves a change of venue? 442 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe Idaho That would be a much better place 443 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: to have any trial. But that's not going to happen. 444 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 2: That's my prediction. They'll try, but it won't work. Hang 445 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: in there, Lourie, you know this is going to play out. 446 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: It plays out. I wish we could do more anyway. 447 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 2: Ivan is in Florida, the Free state of Florida. 448 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 3: What's up? 449 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 4: How are you hey, Sean? How you doing man? Yeah, Sean, 450 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 4: is this fourth indictment? First of all, the system is rigged. 451 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 4: The crooks make and break the rules, The crooks run 452 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 4: the system, and some of the judges are even political 453 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 4: or crooked. Sean, you know, if Trump is if the 454 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 4: Democrats get their way and Trump is prosecuted for any 455 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 4: any of these charges, cheating will have been baked in 456 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 4: the cake for all future elections. Why would you have 457 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 4: a contest another election as a Republican for fear of 458 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 4: being prosecuted Criminally, Democrats will be able to cheap. They'll 459 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 4: be able to cheat with impunity. I mean, and that's 460 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 4: and that's that's what they want. And Sean, I heard you. 461 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 4: I heard some of the people asked or some of 462 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 4: your interviews they say, why did they wait two and 463 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 4: a half years. It's like Democrats are always two steps 464 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 4: ahead of us. They play a different game. And it's 465 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 4: it's like, if by by law, federal election records and data, 466 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 4: they have to be preserved for twenty two months. So 467 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 4: if they had if the Democrats had brought charges before 468 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 4: the twenty two months Trump would Trump's team would have 469 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 4: been able to get discovery and Trump may have been 470 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 4: able to, you know, prove some of the things that 471 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 4: he had been charged. But after twenty two months, Democrats 472 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 4: can destroy the data. 473 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: So you know, it's like, listen, I know that I 474 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: read that Donald Trump wants to come out and speak 475 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: to the issue of irrefutable evidence in Georgia. I think 476 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 2: it's a mistake myself. I honestly, it's elections are about 477 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: the future. Now he's got to focus on the future. 478 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: But yeah, he's got to defend themselves. I take issue 479 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: with one thing you said too as well. You know, no, 480 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: if you're a Democrat, you could call elections illegitimate. If 481 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: you're a Democrat, you can talk about other electors. If 482 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 2: you're a Democrat, you know all of this. You're never 483 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: going to get in trouble. And let me play this 484 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 2: montage as I say goodbye to you and let you listen. 485 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 2: I believe he knows he's an illegitimate president. 486 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: I think it's also. 487 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: Critical to understand that, as I've been telling candidates who 488 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 2: have come to see me. 489 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 3: You can run the best campaign. You can even become the. 490 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: Nominee and you can have the election stolen from you. 491 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 3: I'm thinking's an illegitimate president that didn't really win. So 492 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 3: how do you fight againstat in twenty twenty, you are 493 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 3: absolutely right. 494 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: The president is an illegitimate racist occupying the White House. 495 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 7: And I do have one very affirmative statement to make. 496 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: We won that I believe was a stolen election. And 497 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 3: I'm not saying they stole it from me. They stole 498 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 3: it from the voters of Georgia. 499 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 2: I think that pretty much speaks for itself. We got 500 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: one minute left. Let's give it to Joan in South Carolina. 501 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 3: One minute. Joan, you got to go fast. How are 502 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 3: you okay? 503 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 5: I'm fine, just great to talk to you. This isn't 504 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 5: my point. Don't you think we're being conned by the Republicans? 505 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 5: I mean, don't get me wrong, I always vote Republicans 506 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 5: as a bitter of two evils. 507 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 7: But don't you. 508 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 5: Think, uh, it's it's insane that every crooked and went 509 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 5: after Trump gets no jail time. Obama, Hillary Muller, Comy, 510 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 5: Bryan ray Clapper. 511 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 2: They don't even get charged forget about jail time, they 512 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: don't get charged. 513 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I don't think they want Trump as 514 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 5: our president. I think they want us to have another 515 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 5: rhino like McCain or Romney or possibly even Tens. I 516 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 5: just don't think they want things to change. They know 517 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 5: Trump wants to clean things up. They have a dream job. 518 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 5: What is Congress and the Senate? 519 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 7: What do they work? 520 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 5: Two three hours a day? They get stock tips, they 521 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 5: become millionaires, lobbyists, great benefits. Why would they want Trump 522 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 5: to come in and change things on them? I think 523 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 5: they're I think most of them are against Trump, and 524 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 5: they don't fool me one bit. I don't think I 525 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 5: don't think they're trying hard enough because it doesn't make 526 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 5: sense to me. They haven't been able to put one 527 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 5: of these crooks away. And there's indis beautiful proof that 528 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 5: these people are crooked, and we just had I just 529 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 5: listened to three different whistleblowers on January sixth that says 530 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 5: that was absolutely set up by Nancy Pelosi, and they 531 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 5: told every reason why and how it happened. 532 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 3: So well, tell me, let me, let me just say this. 533 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: I mean, we're living in very troubled, very troubled times, 534 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 2: and I know everybody you know is very angry, and 535 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: you should be angry. I just want simple things like 536 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 2: equal justice under the law and application of our laws. 537 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: And we don't have that because. 538 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: The people, you know, Hillary got off the hook, Joe 539 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: Biden got off the hook, the people that lied to Fiz, 540 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: the courts got off the hook. The fifty one Intel 541 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: experts looks like has all the ear markings of Russia collusion. 542 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: Nobody's held accountable. 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We'll see 577 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: them back here tomorrow. Thank you for making this show 578 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: possible 579 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 3: Mhm