WEBVTT - QLS Classic Robert Glasper 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.040 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:10.040 What Up People? 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:12.799 June is here and that means it's Black Music Month, 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:14.000 and that Quest Love. 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:15.800 Supreme now the Quest Love Show. 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:18.040 We've taken this month seriously. 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:21.920 It's our chance to celebrate black music, document its history, 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:25.080 and recognize the impact it continues to have on our 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:26.520 culture around the world. 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:28.680 Throughout June, we'll. 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:30.680 Be bringing you an episode every day. 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:33.640 My team and I have gone back through the archives 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:37.320 and pulled together conversations, stories and moments that helped tell 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.319 the biggest story about black music and the people who 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.320 shaped it. And we also got four brand new Quest 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:48.320 Love Show episodes coming your way, spotlighting artists, fingers, innovators, 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:53.800 cultural shifters, revolutionaries from across the spectrum of black music, past, 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:57.600 present and future. Thanks for spinning. You're part of June 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:17.280 with us, Happy Black music. All Right, Ladies and gentlemen, 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:22.400 welcome to another edition Brand Imperial. 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:25.480 Another wait. 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.360 I don't feel to encourage when you guys are snickering 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:32.000 behind my back. You know that's that's words rappers say, 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:36.760 you know, the professed. No, Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another. 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:38.840 Episode of Quest Love Supreme. 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:42.160 My name is Quest Love. We have Teams Supreme with 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.640 us snickering light you. Now that makes me sound like 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:51.720 the person that leads our world with his weak ass. 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:55.760 Yeah, I know exactly. 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:03.640 I'm doing good contrary to the world. I'm doing No, actually, no, 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.840 I'm doing I'm doing good. I'm feeling good about about 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:07.680 life and whatnot. 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:09.320 That's cool. I'm talking to you all, so. 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.560 Steve, Yes, I know this is this is the highlight 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:17.680 of you know, I look forward to these conversations with 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:18.280 my friends. 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.120 Never know. Sugar Steve. 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:23.040 How you doing, Hey quest Hey, Team Supreme. 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:24.480 Steve. 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:26.399 I'm feeling real good right now. 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:28.360 You know, it's been a long time since we asked 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.160 you about to Sugar Network. What's what's the HAPs of 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.480 the Sugar Network since Lantee Funny should ask. 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:38.360 We just ended season three and began season We just 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:43.280 started season four, which is the Blueberries Network now Blueberry 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:45.480 We're going to pretend after three years you don't know 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:46.880 how the Sugar Network works. 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:49.720 I'm sorry, Yes, everybody gets a season. 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:54.120 I'm sorry, yes, season we're on season four. 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.040 But we've only been around for like two and a 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:56.640 half years. 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.800 But we're already on season four and the new founder 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:03.160 is Blue Barriers, so you can find him at Blue Barriers. 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:06.119 It's the Blue Berrius Network for season four. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.640 Thank you for you're still the executive producer. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:13.200 Right, yeah, I'm the original founder Sugar Steve's. 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:16.000 Yeah, it's named after you. I've seen that and find Tickeolo. 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:17.600 I'm good, brother, I'm good. 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:19.920 House it down yourth cacollect. 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:21.160 It's cool, man. 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.480 I think the governor said that they're about to do 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:27.720 a phase what they call a phase two point five 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:31.320 or something, so like now they're starting to open some gems. 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.440 So like gyms can open it like thirty percent capacity. 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:39.560 I think restaurants can open it like twenty percent. 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.960 Some crazy. My ass is still in the house, so 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:45.480 this shit needs nothing to me. But but you'a don't 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:46.600 have the gyms. 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.160 The gym's out here doing the little outside thing like 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:50.520 they going into the parking lot too. 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.040 Yeah. Some of the gyms are outdoors. 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:57.000 Yeah yeah, yeah, some of them were. They were actually 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.320 actually my gym for a minute. They were kind of 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.600 doing it outside. Uh, but I don't know, I think 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:04.720 it kind of fell off, But I don't know. Just 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:06.840 being around a bunch of people just breathing hard and 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:10.560 sweating like that not seemed like a good life playing. 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:12.800 So yes, I've just. 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.120 Been sticking to my old man walks in the evening 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.599 and uht'. 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:17.960 Herefore old man walks? 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:19.720 Yes, yeah, just I hit my walk. 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:19.880 Bro. 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.640 Still getting your tenth dolls? 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:23.880 That's that? 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:24.560 What's up? Man? 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:26.799 Yeah? Im three morning? 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:28.599 Still are you still every morning? Six o'clock? 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:29.560 Rick? 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.240 Rick Rubin put me up to the task, and I'm 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:33.640 still doing it ten thousand a day. 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:34.800 That's great, man. 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:41.119 That's I'm trying to unleash my inner strict uh growing 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:42.920 a bug and I'm actually gonna get on a plane. 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.520 Wow, really did you coming back to see your people? 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:46.080 See your mom? 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:46.359 My? 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.839 Mom is turning seventy And I'm like, cain't missed that? 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:51.599 So I'm else. 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:55.360 Man Side actually flew from uh La. She she did 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.560 that flight. She flew from l A to DC and 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.839 she said it was actually it ain't it ain't that bad. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.000 It was, No, It's all good. 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:04.640 I'm make sure I eat everything I need to eat 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.560 for I get on the plane. Don't drink nothing, you know, 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:08.440 and if I do, I got my Clorox whites. I'm 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:10.520 gonna have my gloves. I'm gonna have my mask. I'm 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:12.760 gonna have my shield and I ain't. 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:14.800 Gonna can find Jet Blue. 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:17.080 No, I'm ana probably do do. 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:20.560 My Mama's my Mama's carrier, United, the one that has 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.200 you know, housed and fed may for forty something years. 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.360 Oh that's right, Yeah, United. I forgot, Yeah, I forgot that. 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.040 Hey, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that this 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.760 particular episode of Course Left Supreme is being brought to 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:35.720 you by Mazda. I gotta say shout out to Mazda 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:41.560 for letting me test drive their c X thirty. I 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:45.440 gotta say it's my first grown man car that I 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:46.599 personally drove myself. 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.120 Well, that's like one of those c uvs, right like 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.240 they got su They had SUVs, but now they got 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:52.160 the crossover. 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.039 The crossover kind of that. 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.640 Yeah, But you know, like when I get in it, 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:02.640 like mind driving experience doesn't warrant a turnaround? 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:03.520 Like what's that? 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.479 I never heard for cars that I drive? 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.400 You know what I'm saying? Most cars that I drive 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:13.240 are yeah, like the set of Pee Wee's Playoffs. But 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:16.680 I gotta say this, this is kind of official. I 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.800 enjoy driving it, and good luck and trying to get 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:20.719 this car back from me. 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:27.960 My appreciate that it's comfortable. 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:31.120 And plus, you know, I'm on the farm driving two 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:34.520 hours every day to the city, and you know this 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:38.120 is where I listen to all my favorite podcasts and 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.920 my audio books and my meditation stuff. 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:44.080 So yeah, this this came right in time. I appreciate ably. 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.240 On Spotify and I saw you listening. 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:50.320 To some meditation and something, I was like, what the 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:51.360 hell is this a mirrorge playing? 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:57.200 I forgot that Spotify actually snitches on what I listened. 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:01.919 Oh my god, right now follow yeah, you follow me. 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:04.880 You ain't gonna see me. This is nothing but the 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:05.880 Brandy album for them. 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:12.600 I forgot the world can see what I'm listening to 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.800 because all I'm listening to is the meditation stuff. 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.520 Yeah it, but it'd be the time too, so it'll 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.360 be it's not you know, I mean, it'll be like 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.080 damn two o'clock in the morning. 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:22.760 It'll be late. 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:26.040 And so I see, I'll say that from midnight till 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.040 like eleven in the morning, that's my meditation now. 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:31.840 So you got to get to the change this picture. 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.920 Though they got your Philadelphia Experiment picture. I don't even 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:39.800 know who that person is. 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:45.240 Yeah, no, not not you follow my see people follow 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:47.360 always look for quest love. 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.800 No, you got who my my my? Oh your government, 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:52.480 the government. 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.000 Shoot, Neil K. Thompson is right there, you are so right. 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.080 Yeah, that's how you mere. 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:00.800 I don't think people know that, because that's why your 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:01.600 listeners are different. 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:05.160 You got okay, I know, yeah, like only only for 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:05.840 certain people. 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.880 Now, yeah, that's only for cute link niggas. 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:17.000 Because exactly, only for certain for certain niggas. That's exactly 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:18.520 why I did that, exactly. 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:19.160 Yeah. 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:23.160 No, it's good to hear that you're you're facing your fears. 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:27.240 I too, am going to get on a plane tomorrow. 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.080 Ain't you been getting on a plane. Don't play me, 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:30.880 play lotto. 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:34.080 No, I've not been on a plane since. 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.960 So you drove, because y'all drove to the all. 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:42.520 I've been driving to Ohio since that time period. 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.280 I have questions about what y'all doing up there? 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:46.839 Y'all doing something productive out there? 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:52.240 I am you mean them, I'm not just you. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.240 I was just curious. I didn't know how to ask. 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.280 But I see all the pictures posted, and I see 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.280 you know, all the celebrities, and I'm just wondering, since 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:00.959 we know we're gonna enter the state of the world. 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.480 Are y'all like actually talking about things that could help 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.000 you know that y'all are powerful individuals. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:10.680 Well, I mean it's not G thirteen, but I will 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:15.040 say that a good four to five hours is pretty much. 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.640 I don't know when these episodes are coming to be 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:20.960 or I don't know if it belongs to quality or. 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:23.840 Dave owns the content. 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:31.040 But dude, oh, I told you that's what they was doing. 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.160 I told you it's about Yeah, it's at this rate, 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.960 I think he has I know, lie, I think there's 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.360 about forty hours of content. 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:40.120 Yo. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:44.160 Nicol were releasing our Dave Chappelle episode fu that. 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:46.920 No, I'm just saying. 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.400 Oh man, I'm just saying. 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.360 Well, it's not that's the thing. I don't think Dave 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:56.040 has a platform. But this is going to go somewhere someday. 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:59.520 But the last time I did it, last time, it 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:03.679 was really good episode like most like basically each episode 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:08.600 is most quality. Dave like, they're the anchors. Those three 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:14.520 are the anchors, and then me and whatever comedian Kevin 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:18.760 Hart uh sometimes uh Kevin Hart, Bill Burr was the 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:24.000 last time before that was John Hamm Common Tiffany Hattish 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:29.080 and uh, you know, but I will say that, yeah, 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:33.000 and it's it's it's not just what I won't say. 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.240 It's not just us. I don't want to say fluffing No, 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.920 it's it's not it's us. 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:41.679 Yeah, it's not. 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:45.360 Yeah, it's actually us holding people's feet to the fire. 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:50.720 Like everything that including an hour about you know, quality's 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.360 situation with the with social media and all that stuff 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:57.320 like shit got real. So I don't know when or 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.720 where it's coming or how it's coming or whatever. But 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:07.760 I mean, besides that, Dave actually has taken over his 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.199 his town. I got to commend him, like he has 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.880 the resources and the governor's blessing to. 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.160 You know, Ohio is very important. 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:20.319 Another and you know the another is that I was asking, 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.400 especially in the election, it's very important. 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.760 Yeah, but it's yeah, he's you know, he has medical 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:30.640 people and standby, he's testing, testing his audience, testing his guests. 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:35.960 And then once you do that, I mean you just yeah, 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:39.120 it's it's rather incredible. Well that is nice for me 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:40.680 to go back a third time. But I. 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.240 Also do hope that y'all figure out some other things 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.559 to do, like some things like similar to what Lebron 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:48.920 is doing. I know everybody doesn't have Lebron money, but 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.920 on some levels of opening up stadiums and figuring out 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:53.720 how we're going to get people out to vote and 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.959 whatnot comfortable places and say spaces. 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:58.120 Anything that could help the cause. 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:00.559 You know what I'm saying outside of just some good conversation, 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.480 but I appreciate the conversation as well. 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.480 Well. All I can do on mine and is raised money. 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.120 So all I can do is tell you, you tell them, 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:09.120 and then you know, working out. 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:14.079 Yeah, I'm certain that that's on his mind. I mean 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.160 that that's been discussed. I don't know what his direct 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:21.640 plans are for November, but you know, right now I'm 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:25.280 a member of team. When we all vote, we're registering 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:26.760 about thirty seven thousand. 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.679 People every night. DJ S. 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:29.520 That's good. 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:34.360 Yeah, just trying to is the mystic. 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.480 We can win as long as we keep our heads 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.560 to this guy. This whole renewed sense of optimism is 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:43.160 what I feel. 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:48.720 Yes, No, I do have optimism. What I'm what I'm 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:52.240 more worried about. I mean, i'd be lying if I 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.720 didn't say that I was. I wasn't worried about the 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:58.240 transition period like November. 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:02.960 I'm actually getting out from November January. 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:06.840 Win or lose, like you know, he wins, Yeah, November 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.760 to January as hell for the next four years as hell, 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:15.320 but lose you know, who knows what that transition will 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:20.160 be like for those three months borderline hoping that he. 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:23.840 I predict that he's going to. 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:28.199 I realized you can lose the presidency if you remove 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.560 the goalposts of the election day. So if he moves 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:39.360 the election day, then instantly Pelosi becomes president. And so 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.680 I think in his head it's like I'd rather be 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:47.680 removed than lose, right, So. 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:49.880 That's going to be another that's another theory. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:53.720 Oh my god, saying that he yeah, he'll plan it 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:58.960 as crats forced me out and like, so that's what 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.280 I'm hoping for. But you know, of course that they 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.679 followed the law, but they've been lost nine of the time, 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:05.760 so they. 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:06.760 Ain't followed the ship yet. 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.440 Why now, yeah, why how much mail? 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.320 Y'all getting it? But I'm just saying I ain't getting 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:12.280 the mailers. 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:16.000 Like I used to, right exactly, I got I actually 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.320 got my mail today. My mail has been running pretty smool. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.320 But yeah, it's yeah, this ship is nuts. 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:25.960 So let's get to our episode, ladies and gentlemen. Today, 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:31.040 our Steam guest is a is a g that's right. 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:35.680 He's a multi Grammy Award winning and Emmy Award winning 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.640 not he I'm sorry, not ghetto, but your your your 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:40.640 g I. 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.160 Have a Soul Training award. Is that going there somewhere? 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:49.040 You have a soul training award? I have a soldier 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:53.480 war Yeah, I'm jealous, yo. From the last man. Dollar 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:58.520 was still alive when I got it. Wow, I got 0:14:58.560 --> 0:14:59.440 a real one. 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.080 Your mayor you okay? 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:07.280 That inta. 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:10.520 Yes, I love it. 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:12.920 About that. 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:13.920 Whatever. 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:18.000 I got one brother, got one man, I got a 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:19.240 one month old of a girl. 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.200 You know, quarantine? 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:31.840 Yeah? Wow, that was that was. 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:33.360 Do the math. 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:34.360 That's coping season. 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:36.400 Wow. 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:42.240 Wow old man. Congratulations bro, Bro, thank you man. 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:42.640 What's up? 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:42.960 Steve? 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:44.520 Congratulations? 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.520 How you doing? I'm good? Kick and playing and play. 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:51.000 Wait let me let's let our listeners know for those 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.200 that don't know, because it will be a bunch of 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:57.640 inside jokes and you know it will be so literally. Yeah, 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:01.720 our guest today is uh. He's literally worked with the 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:08.840 best of them. Name him uh Tip Uh, Michelle Dyla, 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:12.480 Jill Scott. 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.680 Have we worked worked together. My fault we did, y'all 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:24.720 did y'all did cover It's a lot of lunch, we did. 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.400 Hey, wait, way to circle back speaking. 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.000 Our theme today is having a renewed sense of optimism, 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:37.640 and our guests actually covered sounds of Blackness, Mortal Classic. 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:41.120 Optimistic with Brandy right now. 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:45.320 Yes, we're Brandy and August Green, featuring Common and Kareean Riggans. 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.720 And probably one of the craziest, funniest people I know. 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.240 Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome Robert Gas. 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:56.560 Finally a long overdue we should but. 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:58.800 To me, just for the people that's listening, we should 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:00.480 tell him the only reason it's taking as long as 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:02.840 because Amir always wanted to be in the studio, in 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.320 a really banging ass studio with rob And that's the 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.240 only reason we haven't made this happen yet, Because we 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.600 sposed to be an elected lady somewhere exactly. 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:12.840 We thought we had like hopes and dreams of like 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:14.280 jam sessions and whatnot. 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.240 I kept looking, I kept looking at my resume, like, God, 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:18.679 damn it, am I good enough to be. 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:29.760 Friends Robert? Wait? Time out? Okay, So I just I 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:34.760 pulled up your Wikipedia page. Have you seen your Wikipedia. 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.520 Page lately, I haven't seen it. 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:40.000 What's with this photo, the photo that they got for 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:40.360 your week? 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.040 Is it with the dreads? 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:48.040 The dreads it's like his sears, Roebuck caog pose. 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.320 It's the ray Kwan You know when Ray Kwan puts 0:17:51.560 --> 0:18:02.440 the temple is uh. 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.440 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not proud of that. 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.879 I'm I think we all have one of those poles 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:08.600 with that pole because when you're deeping, exactly what you do, right. 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:10.960 I was doing my time where I was really fighting 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:13.520 against taking photos at the piano. Every time I took 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.359 photos at the piano. I was like, that's corny. I 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.280 want to be away from the piano. And that was 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.119 during the time I was like, nah, I wanted to 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.360 do other stuff and I didn't know what to do, 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:29.040 and it was weird this this, I was like this, right? 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:32.359 Is that one photographers suggesting the piano to you is 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:34.560 like photographers telling the roots, we gotta go out to 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:35.840 the forest to take photos. 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:42.320 That's what I have an idea, go out to the forest. 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:47.800 Or put shackles on your feet, one of the. 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.359 Two roots exactly. 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.119 Take your picture next to Alex Haley. 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:54.960 Where are you right now? 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:56.680 Robert I'm in l A. 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:58.119 I'm at the l A spot. 0:18:58.200 --> 0:18:59.240 That's right, he one of us. 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.360 Now you live out in LA right now? Yep? 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:04.720 Yeah, Well I've always had an LA spot in New 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.240 York spot. But now I'm just here in LA for 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:09.920 a long period of time, So I'm pretty much I'm 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:12.720 pretty much here. I think I'm gonna call this home. 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:16.520 How long have you lived out there? I had this place. 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:19.040 Here for about four years, but I've never really spent 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.159 you know, you come in for a week here and 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:24.399 you know, but now I'm like staying here, you know. 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:29.200 So see, I always I always thought there was a stigma. Well, 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:33.040 you know, you are a serious musician, and I always 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:39.119 thought that LA had a stigma on serious musicians, Like 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:44.440 there's always been this cloud of sort of pretentiousness with 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:49.119 LA session musicians and LA jazz musicians, at least in 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:52.679 the sixties, seventies, eighties, and nineties. I don't know if 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:55.800 it's still yeah, it has held over or not, but 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:56.560 you know. 0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:59.199 I mean, I don't when I'm out here, I'm not 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:03.040 being a musician. Okay, when I'm out here, I'm producing. 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:06.679 I'm going a film film, I'm scoring films. You know 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:09.119 what I mean, like I always say, New York is 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:11.200 where you learn how to play, and then LA is 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:12.080 where you make money. 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:15.520 So that's why I'm out here one. 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:20.360 You know, I'm actually long overdue being here in LA really, 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:21.440 you know what I mean. I should have been here 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:26.440 ten years ago. Yeah, yeah, man, just for the opportunities 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:29.640 of what I want to do, because I'm not trying 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:31.480 to be the best jazz piano player in the world anymore. 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:33.120 That's what I've moved to New York to do. When 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:34.720 I was the high school, I said, I'm going to 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.080 New York. I'm gonna be the best jazz piano player. 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:41.960 And it was all about that, all about bigger musician years. 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:45.399 We were there already. I'm over that, yeah man, you were. 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:47.600 Now you want to work. 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:49.040 I want to work out. 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.320 Yeah, But that's what it's supposed to be, though, That's 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:52.880 how it's supposed to be. I had like a og 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:55.040 tell me, like, you know, the first part of your 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:58.560 career it's about becoming the best, right, Yeah. But then 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:00.720 after a while it's like Nigga got to put myself 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:03.040 in the position to make the most money boom exactly. 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:05.479 Let me ask, as a fan, does that mean that 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:09.120 you've done everything you wanted to do musically, like are 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:10.199 your music goals or. 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.080 Oh no, no, no, no no. I put myself in 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:15.720 a position where I can always go back and do that. 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:18.359 You know, I can always make records. I don't have 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:20.240 to do the New York grind anymore. I don't have 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:22.600 to be in New York and beat play the clubs 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:24.240 and play the gigs, you know what I mean. I 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:25.880 can go to New York and play my show when 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:28.080 I want to play my shows and stuff like that 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:31.159 while I'm out here also doing film scores and all 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:31.720 that stuff. 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:34.240 You know, that's why you strategized and did those those 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:36.440 that when you had a whole residency in New York 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:38.600 right before you left them, right, that was brilliant. 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.119 That worked worked out. So that's all I got to do. 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:41.560 Every year. 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:44.120 I go to New York and stay one month and 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:45.680 do all my shows. 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:51.480 Get all your shows out the way, get your quarter done, 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:53.160 and then out out. 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:55.440 I love it and see my son. My son's in 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:58.040 New York, so I go there. I get you know, 0:21:58.160 --> 0:21:59.960 the only reason I just keep my New York spot 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:02.000 so I can go back and see my son all 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:04.119 the time. You know what, I mean, but you know, 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:06.800 other than that, it's it's bye bye New York. 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:09.120 He had a chance. Has a son had a chance 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:09.960 to meet his sister yet? 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:12.360 Yeah, she's one month old? Not yet. 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:16.439 Oh yeah, it's just whatever. That's it. 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:17.720 That's it. 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.280 You know your son is hilarious. 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:23.840 How dangerous is he as a musician? Now? Yo? 0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:28.160 Now dude, Now he there's not a deal of joint 0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:30.000 he doesn't know and he there's not a deal of 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:32.680 joint that he doesn't know how it's made. Like he's 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:36.160 producing beats. Him and Kareem Riggins Sonny Dreas are making 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:36.919 the EP together. 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:39.520 I can't I love it? 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:44.919 So Glasperhem glassber Riggins like yeah, because first of all, 0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:47.760 Kareem's son is crazy with the have you heard his beats? 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:55.320 No, he's like maybe thirteen. First of all, generation is 0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:56.720 going to kill me, yo. 0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:59.359 First of all on drums, he's crazy, Like I hire 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:01.959 him right now for a hip hop get not even joking. 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:04.479 We jammed and we jammed a few times here in La. 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.800 I believe you killing. But then his beat are his 0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:10.600 beats are stupid? So him and Riley and my son 0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:13.440 they always play Fortnite. They're always on the playing Fortnite 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.880 Ship and then they started making beats and going back 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:17.120 and forth with the beats and ship. 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:20.080 So now they Riley and. 0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:24.880 Yeah, JM and Lewis Okay, yeah, he's he's literally that's 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:27.200 what he's on now, that's literally what he's on. 0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:30.600 Gera, these kids with Swiss beats Son and oh my god, 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:32.480 Jill Scott her Son making beats too. 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:33.280 Yeah. 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:36.320 Yeah, they have access to the tools that we didn't like. 0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:39.120 I mean, this technology is so I mean, you can 0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:40.760 make beats on your damn phone now, you know what 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:41.160 I'm saying. 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:43.680 So, but Riley's like he and me yesterday that dad, 0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:47.080 can you give me an n PC one? Wow? 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:57.760 I was like, uh yeah right now, Uh you just 0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:01.040 released the project with uh ninth correct. 0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:04.360 Yeah, so the album called we got an album called 0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:10.720 a Dinner Party. Yeah, me, Terrace, Martinmassie and Knife. 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:11.280 And uh yeah. 0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:14.840 So with Felix, Felix, Felix there. 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:19.760 Felix, Man, I do. Felix is really dope. His beats 0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:21.440 a dope too. He makes dope beachs too. 0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:24.840 He made tracks, okay, yeah, stupid tracts. 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:27.840 Yeah, everybody making tracks. 0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:30.760 Everybody makes tracks. I know, I've never been a track. 0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:31.400 I've never been. 0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:32.920 I've never wanted to make track. 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:34.760 I gotta make some beach right exactly. 0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:38.080 Yeah, it's like, I know all the dopest musicians, Let's 0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:39.600 get in the room and make the dope ship. That's 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:42.400 how I'm always like that, like pluck that. But yeah, 0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:44.600 you got to make tracks. But but yeah, so we 0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:46.960 just did a dinner party right now. We're just we're 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:50.320 just finishing up a dinner party kind of remix kind 0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:53.159 of situation where we took all the songs, but we 0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:57.280 put guests on them. So we got Corday and Snoop 0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:00.560 and a few other article low On Aaron, a few 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:03.600 other artists on those actual songs. Tank from taking the Bangers. 0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:07.840 Yeah, she's dope. I love her, man, she's dough. 0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:11.040 Uh So yeah, finishing up that. That should be done 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.399 in a few days actually, and then I'm still in 0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:17.080 the middle of working on Black Radio three as well. 0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:20.240 Oh my god, so wait all right, can we just 0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:20.640 real quick? 0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:22.800 Don't you don't know I'm working on Black Radio three. 0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:28.359 No, no, no, no, no, I know, I just forget. 0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:33.960 I just forgot it was I forgot that was coming. 0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:36.600 But that means that you all black Radio three. 0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.080 You're supposed to be I was supposed to be. I 0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:42.560 may be like, here's here's the thing I'm not playing. 0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:48.199 Let me first what had happened was happened? 0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:51.720 Hey man, you can't put me on blands. She don't 0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:53.560 want them, to say myself. So let me set the 0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:58.280 recor straight. Look, we in the goddamn pandemic. I don't 0:25:58.280 --> 0:25:59.200 feel like doing ship. 0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:00.480 I have learn. 0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:05.280 Let me look, I'm a baking cliff. I'm in a 0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:08.160 space where I have to learn. The first like three 0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:10.119 four months of this ship was just like what the 0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:14.040 fuck right? So I had to learn how to create 0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:16.040 in this space. I knew how to create in the 0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:18.879 old world when we was out torn and moving around 0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:20.520 and bumping into each other and all that shit. 0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:22.840 I know how to feel that creative tank. 0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:25.600 I had to learn how to feel that creative tank 0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:27.680 in a space where we can't go no fucking where. 0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:31.320 So now I'm waking up again. I'm kind of finding it, 0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:32.760 you know what I mean. I'm kind of finding my 0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:37.720 voice again. So now to everyone, to Robert Glass and everyone, now, yes, 0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:40.520 there's a big possibility I'll probably be on black radio 0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:42.800 now because I know how to create I'm kind of 0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:46.520 finding my voice now. But to me, he was like, yeah, man, 0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:48.960 I got this joint send it. I'm like, Nigga, just 0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:52.120 watched my aunt die on Zoom. Nigga Like, what the. 0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:54.360 Too? 0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:00.960 Literally, oh my, it was like months ago. 0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:02.960 Yeah, I had to log into an app to watch 0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:13.400 a funeral. Nigga. This is we're right now. Yeah, yeah 0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:15.280 that might be there was up. 0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:19.720 Okay, this might be my old age, but I'm under 0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:26.119 the impression that you actually invented or pioneered d I 0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:30.520 wyness when it comes. I know, you have an apple 0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:32.280 on your phone that you do the vocals on and 0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:34.000 then you just be sitting it the motherfuckers. 0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:36.000 Yeah. 0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.200 I mean when me and Nick did foreign exchange, yeah, 0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:40.480 that was kind of the first, you know in terms 0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:42.199 of I mean it was us doing it, and then 0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:44.320 I think before that it was the postal service with 0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:47.240 your boy from Deaf Cab, but they were actually sending 0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:47.760 it through the mail. 0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:49.960 We were sending it just you know, through I am. 0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:51.719 But even with then, I mean, that was still at 0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:54.320 the time where you know the world was open, like 0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:56.879 we were going out, I was going to doing shows 0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.479 and whatever. So the thing about now is just creating 0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.240 in this where I think people are having most of 0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:04.679 the artists, my homies. I talked to the thing that 0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.920 the kind of prevalent feeling is that we're still being 0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:12.000 held accountable, or we're still being held we're still accountable 0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:14.480 for the same we're still under the same pressure, but 0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:16.760 we no longer have those things we were able to 0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:18.399 do to release that pressure exact. 0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:20.159 So it's like you motherfucker still won't meet it. 0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:22.400 Damn rapidy rap rapidly saying and do all this ship, 0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.879 But I can't go to the gym right where and 0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:27.840 where's the release? Like I can't I can't go to 0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.280 the gym, I can't go to the movies. You know 0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:34.960 what I'm saying, Like, well, I apologize, I apologize, and 0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:37.119 I appreciate you for having this moment because there's so 0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:39.200 many people that will feeling the same way. 0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.720 You're right, You're right, you right. 0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:43.600 Oh yeah, but I'm coming. 0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:45.360 But you know now, like I'm figuring out like I 0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:47.320 got I'm me and poove being working on ship like 0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:49.360 I got ship coming, so so now I mean I'm 0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.080 waking up now like now I figured out so so 0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.640 now glass fell like with joints like us being Black 0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:55.080 Radio three. 0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:57.800 Yeah, that more than like what happened, because it's. 0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:00.440 Always I have a studio to glass. 0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:05.400 I want you on there too. I was gonna hit you, 0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:07.920 but I had a whole idea. I want to talk 0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:09.120 to you. We'll figure that out. 0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.640 Yeah, I'll do it. If if doesn't do it, I'll 0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:11.960 do it. 0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:15.240 Bars. 0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:18.600 I do interlus. You can see your little brother. 0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:22.120 You have voiceoverat voice over. 0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:25.400 I'm just joking, but I'm more curious about who else 0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:28.000 is because I was just curious because I was like, damn, Robert, 0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:29.880 you gotta I know people be coming at you when 0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:31.720 you do these black radio albums. 0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:34.880 Like, yeah, well you haven't even I haven't even said 0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:36.760 it out loud that I was doing it until I 0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:40.200 released a single a few days ago, one of the 0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:43.240 singles off the record with the song I did called 0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:50.480 Betty than I Imagine and with her with her and Michelle Dello. Yeah, 0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.080 so that's that's something I was holding for Black Radio three. 0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:53.960 But I was like, fuck. 0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:59.480 It, yeah, you know, because you still go on the 0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.280 record correct, Yes, yes, but. 0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:03.600 I was like, I don't want to hold it any longer. 0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:05.800 I'll put this one out, you know, just to just 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:07.560 put it out there because I need to put some music. 0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:09.000 I just felt like I want to put something out 0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:10.400 and this is a good time for it, you know 0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:12.760 what I mean? And you know so, yeah, I got 0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.600 to December to finish it, and I'm gonna go on 0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:16.200 next year. 0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:20.360 What have you been doing the last six months? Have 0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:23.120 you been working at home or just like doing nothing? 0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:27.120 Well? No, I learned how to do logic pretty good. 0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:30.520 That got better, bro, That's what I do. That's all. 0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:31.720 That's where I track all my shit in. 0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:33.440 I got. I got better at logic. 0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.280 And actually I'm building a mi a terist a building 0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:39.200 a studio right behind my house right here, like literally 0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:43.640 ten steps away. There's a one apartment behind my crib 0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.440 and my landlord moved out of there and we took 0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:48.560 it over and made it the studio. So we'll be 0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:52.040 finished with that in like two three weeks. So that'll 0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:53.800 be a place where we can like really go work, 0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.400 you know what I mean. And so we've been doing that. 0:30:56.880 --> 0:31:01.520 And about the noise, no, can't even they can't. It's separate. 0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:05.760 It's no neighbor. The way it is. My landlord had it. 0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:08.840 My landlord had it built by some people from our church. 0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:12.400 It's like all sement and it stands with its own 0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.600 It's like isolated is dope. It's really dope. 0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:17.720 So in. 0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:21.080 Okay, okay, I'm curious. 0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:28.920 Yeah, yeah, yep, you know this is we we've known 0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.160 each other for the longest, but we really have never 0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:36.160 had an in depth conversation. And what I always no, no, 0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.680 But the thing I was always curious about was that 0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:43.400 I don't think it's same way that Philadelphia had its 0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:45.560 renaissance in two thousand. 0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.600 Yeah, you know, I felt that Houston. 0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:52.480 Had that same renaissance in two thousand and six, two 0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:57.240 thousand and seven, you know with all these musicians who 0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:00.680 at the time, like what was going on in your 0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:04.760 high school? With all these musicians that were thinking left 0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.600 of center? Like what was what was in the air, 0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:09.040 like what was going on? 0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:12.239 So the cool thing about my high school, which you 0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:13.920 know art high school, is because you went to one 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:15.360 of the best ones in Philly. 0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:17.000 So you went to perform in art high school. 0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.800 I want to perform at ours high school in Houston 0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:23.480 High School for performing arts. And the cool thing about 0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:25.880 my high school, which I think we might be the 0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:27.680 only high school that did this. 0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:29.880 I'm pretty sure. 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.200 Or maybe not. You can tell me if y'all did this. 0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:36.000 My jazz director and not even just the jazz director, 0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:41.040 in all the art areas, they hired teachers that didn't 0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:46.920 have degrees. Wow. So our jazz cats that were teachers 0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:47.719 were just cats. 0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:48.520 Wow. 0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:50.640 Yeah, they didn't have degrees. 0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:54.360 They did this by design or purpose or yes. 0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.840 Because the motherfuckers that have to degrees most of the time, 0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:02.840 you know. But the cats that the cats they're just playing. 0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:05.400 They out there playing. So they was coming to the 0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.520 school showing us was hip right now because they're out 0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:11.080 there playing right now. So the cats that was over 0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:15.640 our jazz, our jazz classes, our jazz professor, doctor Morgan 0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:19.320 had a degree, but he made it so he would 0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.000 just hire different and sometimes we would see one dude 0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:25.880 for three months, never see him again. But he was dope. Yeah, 0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:29.840 but it was dope. And one of the cool things 0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:33.640 about US school also is we had a class period 0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:34.400 called listening. 0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:35.880 You didn't play. 0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.840 You came in and we had a CD player and 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:43.000 everybody in the class could bring anything they wanted to 0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:44.600 and you just sat there and listened. 0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:45.760 Damn. 0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:48.959 And part of the problem with a lot of musicians 0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:50.840 is they don't listen and they don't know what to 0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.520 listen to, and they just don't listen, you know what 0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:57.840 I mean. And our jazz rector made a class called Listen. 0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.520 I would bring stuff. It could be gospel, it could 0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:06.280 be anything, and and and all the cancer bring stuff, 0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:08.920 you know, every Mark Kelly, that's Mark about it. You 0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:10.799 know it was who did you go to school with? 0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:14.880 Like what in my class? In my I went to 0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:17.640 school with Mark Kelly. I went to school with Kendrick Scott, 0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:25.000 h drummer, really guitar player, Mike Moreno Beyonce, she was 0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:31.920 there for one year. Brian, Brian Cox, he was that's 0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:32.560 my best friend. 0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:33.160 Yeah. 0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:37.480 I met Yeah, I met Brian eighth grade and he 0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:39.600 told me to come there. We met at a talent 0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:47.600 competition called Sammy Davis Junior Awards, and I was playing 0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:49.759 I was playing piano with a gospel group and he 0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:52.160 was singing with an R and B group called Business 0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:52.680 or Pleasure? 0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:58.719 What that was? 0:34:58.800 --> 0:34:59.279 That was like? 0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:01.440 That was ninety three, ninety two. 0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:08.160 Please tell me, Please tell me, Please tell me. Pleasure 0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:15.160 was spelled with a Z, right it might be got. 0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:16.120 To do so. 0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:17.000 Yeah. 0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:20.239 So so Brian we met at that competition he's like, yo, man, 0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.919 you got to come to PBA where you were all 0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:25.279 all the cats playing this blah. I was like, what's that? 0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:25.520 You know? 0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.160 So he told me about it, and I didn't go 0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:29.719 with my freshman year because I thought I was going 0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:32.080 to be a basketball player. So I was like, nah, 0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.760 I want to play basketball. So I wasn't even serious 0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:37.360 about piano yet. Yeah, I want to play basketball. I 0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:38.000 wasn't serious. 0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.000 How old were you when you got serious about piano? 0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:45.040 When I got serious, uh, I was in like tenth 0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:49.560 grade when I was like, all right, good night, but 0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:51.399 I was playing the church and stuff I was playing. 0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:54.080 I started playing the Church. I literally started playing cando. 0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:56.000 My mom was. My mom was the musa. 0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:59.160 Director at church, and she sang in clubs all through 0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:01.279 the week, like of like R and B gaigs and 0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.600 stuff like that. She was literally like WHOOPI Goldberg my 0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:06.640 sister at all that. And then on Sundays did she 0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:09.839 have a group. Yes, her and my stepdad had the group. 0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:13.000 They were literally like seafists and recip ex absolutely hilarious. 0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:26.799 Oh wow, the early eighties, the curls, the colors so 0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:30.600 for real. But but but on Sundays my mom was 0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:32.759 in minister of music. I had a small church, you know, 0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.279 so they allowed me to play the little broke ass 0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:37.000 organ that was in the corner. So I used to 0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:40.040 play every Sunday the pastor whose birthday is it? And 0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:42.000 when I was eleven, I was playing with one finger, 0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.480 happy birthday. I figured out how happy birthday with one finger. 0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.600 And then they just let me every Sunday, just let 0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:49.480 me sit there and to figure the service out. I 0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:52.160 started playing Luther Van songs with one finger because my 0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:55.720 dad played with the bandjoff to the house every day. 0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:59.000 All the time. And so I was learning all. 0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:01.359 That kind of songs and just and then I just 0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:04.200 I really taught. I really taught myself. Yeah, and then 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:07.080 I just you know, and then at age like yeah, 0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:12.479 maybe age fourteen, that's when I know what's tenth tenth grade, 0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:16.400 I don't know, tenth grade is whatever I auditioned with. 0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:19.200 I auditioned with three gospel songsu I didn't know any 0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:22.240 jazz tuns. So there was no guidance. 0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:25.239 But up from beginnings of church to the fifteen there 0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:27.400 was nobody got no guidance, nobody to say, but this 0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:28.399 is how you really do this? 0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:31.080 Well, See, my mom had a band, and in her 0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:33.640 band there was a piano piano player, naed Alan Mosley 0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.640 that nobody knows, one of them cats from your hometown. 0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:39.000 That was drunk but was really good. And you know 0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:41.160 he's a legend. You never see him. 0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:44.480 So I used to sit next to him on the 0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:46.239 piano eventure and they would have rehearsals because we had 0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:48.719 rehearsals at our crib. We had pianos and a have 0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:50.680 rehearsals the cribs. I would sit there and watch them. 0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:53.600 So the only song I played at my audition that 0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.480 was jazzy was he taught me how to play the 0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:59.680 Spider Man theme in in in the form of a 0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:01.360 seam mind of blues. So he taught me how to 0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:05.480 walk the baseline boom boom boom boom boo boom. 0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:07.239 Boom boo boom. 0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:10.000 So that's what I did that and I did three 0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:11.920 gospel songs and then I. 0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:13.919 Got in Wait. 0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:17.680 Speaking of which, wait, Robert, you remember that time I 0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:21.480 bet you that you wouldn't ah man, this is this 0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:25.600 is the most the most devastating gig of my life 0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:27.920 was Robert. 0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:29.120 As a joke. 0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:32.120 You know, I think Robert says, I'm gonna sneak the 0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:37.800 Smurts theme into this jay Z song, all right. 0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:38.800 So it was one of them. 0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:40.640 This is one of them. It was all right. 0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:45.239 So me and Robert Glasper were we were like, uh, 0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.600 paying tribute to jay Z at one of these like 0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:54.879 you know, twenty five thousand dollars plate banquet spots. And 0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:58.799 at the last minute I told Glassper, I said, yo, like, 0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:03.320 you know, do something like really uh, you know, a 0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:05.400 high class for these people, like, you know, make it 0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:09.480 sound like classical stuff. And he gets at the piano 0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:13.880 and starts off like you know, you know, like Alicia 0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:16.400 Keys first came out playing for a lease. 0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:22.000 You think of like some deep ship. So Robert goes. 0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:26.800 And the audience like Mariah Carey, Yoka Owner, Everyone's looking, 0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:29.760 and all of a sudden, this motherfucker starts playing the Spurson. 0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:44.480 I Love you, Michaelphone. 0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:46.520 I was like, mother fuck, are you playing the smurs 0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:47.080 right now? 0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:51.879 But then when we got up. 0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:56.319 It went downhill from there because then Tarik forgot all 0:39:56.440 --> 0:40:01.799 jay Z's lyrics in front of jay Z. Yes, yes, 0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:04.200 man words gig. 0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:07.120 Ever, but I remember when we got to stage, y'all 0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:11.080 go on the on your shoe. She came to She 0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:15.520 just threw up and just fell on me like a 0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:20.160 hug and fell up with me. She was like, yo, 0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:21.000 goa on her or. 0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:24.640 Her sister threw up on somebody's shoes, and YO. 0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:31.279 About that gig, bro, that's. 0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:31.640 Like one of y'all like a George Clinton story. 0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:35.840 Y'all make sure I remember that. 0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:37.279 James just signed to the label. I thought he was 0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:41.880 about to get dropped all of that, calling me and like, 0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:45.040 how could you guys forget his music? Everyone knows the song? 0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:49.000 Right? 0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:49.920 Were you? 0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:52.359 Were you always this person? Like in school too? Were 0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:55.640 like were you always funny? And like, you know, outgoing 0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:57.480 or whatnot? Where that is that the same you always? 0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:01.080 I was a kid that I had to sit out 0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:01.600 in the hallway. 0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:08.799 Yeah, I wass that was me? 0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:11.719 That was me the whole all the time. Yeah. 0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:16.080 Literally I ran into a girl, dude. Maybe in January, 0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:19.279 I don't know, December. I was in Houston. I went 0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:21.640 to a I went to a barz and Noble. Ran 0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:24.279 into an elementary school friend of mine I met and 0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:27.080 we were in the same play. We played Hunky Huckyberry 0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:29.960 Finn play. I played Hunkerberry Finn. 0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:31.240 Oh wow. 0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:37.560 In fifth grade. That was my debut on stage. That's 0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:46.759 the only thing I've ever done acting. I played Tom 0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:50.040 Tom Sawyer. Tom Sawyer was an Indian dude. We're we're 0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:52.319 ahead of our time. We were out there. Oh wow, 0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:54.960 first of my look and I met this I saw 0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:57.120 this girl. She looked at me. Oh my god, Robert. 0:41:57.800 --> 0:41:59.680 Soon I saw her. I was like the pig, that's 0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:04.040 what I She was big in the play. She looked 0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:07.560 exactly the same, exactly, and she was like, Oh my god, 0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:10.000 you still haven't changed since you were in fourth grade. 0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:10.960 This is so crazy. 0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:13.320 I was like, Damn, I have it. 0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:15.040 I literally haven't wait. 0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:18.279 Question. Was Chris at your school as well? Chris Dave? 0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:20.680 I don't know how old Chris is. 0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:25.280 Chris, he's ninety eight, but he's like ninety he's ninety two. Chris, 0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:27.879 he's supposed to be as good as he as he's 0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:32.200 one hundred and thirteen. Chris, Yo, ch God, damn like no, 0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:37.840 Chris went. Chris graduated from PBA in nineteen ninety. 0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:41.120 Chris is my age. 0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:45.480 Chris is like Chris is like forty is he is 0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:46.239 he forty seven? 0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:50.520 Forty eight? Got yo? Because his voice make you think 0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:52.480 that he's he. 0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:54.560 Keeps bring a prodigy because you keep thinking he's the 0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:59.839 little kid. It's old as fuck. I hear you're like this, 0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:04.720 but thirteen year olds amazing, how did you do that? No, so, Chris, 0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:07.600 we know. So Chris, there was a drummer named Mark 0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:11.440 Simmons before you, you know Mark, Mark Simmons. No, okay, 0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:15.360 so Mark Simmons was probably the beginning. No, before Mark Simmons, 0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:19.520 there was something the lineage of drummers at the school. 0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:22.600 There was a what's the fucking dude that played with 0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:24.640 Tyer Power anyway. 0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:28.640 Power drummers? 0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:34.560 Uh, fucking Dave Gi No, not the famous one, the 0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:38.520 other guy. Maybe he did some tours never mind, yeah him. 0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:46.040 After that, After that there was Mark Simmons. Mark Simmons. 0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:48.840 If you ever saw in the last twenty years or whatever, 0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:52.960 Algio or fucking George Benson, he was on drums. He's 0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:55.719 the guy that was elect maybe a year or two 0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:59.840 order than Chris. That made Chris like really shed because 0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:01.879 he did something to Chris in high school really bad. 0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:04.279 So Chris was mad at him. He had a been 0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:09.200 debta against him the whole time. So Chris under Chris's ass. 0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.160 That's what lit a fire have do with the girl 0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:14.239 that made Chris go in the practice room and never 0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:16.799 come out. That's the story. All my friends that are 0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:18.759 around that time tell that story. They were like, yo, 0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:20.480 he went to practice with and then come out practice room. 0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:26.640 So and there was Eric Harlan after Chris. They went 0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:29.960 together around the same time. Maybe Chris is a senior, 0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:33.520 Maybe Eric was, you know, a sophomore or something or 0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:34.080 a freshman. 0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:35.040 Uh. 0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:38.640 After that, then there was Kendrick Scott and then Jamiah 0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:40.160 you know, Jamiah Williams. 0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:41.160 Yeah, Jamayer. 0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:45.520 Yeah, they're still putting out some great motherfucker. James Francis, 0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:51.000 you know he's he's up there. Francis from Alston. His 0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:52.960 parents used to drop him off when I would do 0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:56.640 gigs in Houston. James used to do His parents used 0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:59.080 to drop him off at my sound checks so he 0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:02.080 could watch a soundcheck because he was too young to 0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:03.000 come for the show. 0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:05.120 So I used to let him sit. 0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:07.320 Like right by me and stuff and watch my soundchecks 0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:08.239 because he wasn't allowed to. 0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:09.240 Yeah. 0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:10.680 So when he got to New York. Yeah, when he 0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:13.080 got to New York, I told I called poister. I 0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:18.320 was like, yo, okay, your recommendation, I see. Yeah. 0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:18.000 Yeah. 0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:24.480 Whenever whenever James or Ray angry or come on, I 0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:29.200 can't do the Tonight show that James Francis. Yeah, I 0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:31.440 mean he was young boy back then, but now you 0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:33.760 know he's one of his own gigs at Blue Note, 0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:34.000 you know. 0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:36.479 Yeah, yeah, that sort of thing. I used to sneak 0:45:36.560 --> 0:45:41.360 him in the brook Brooklyn Bowl. Now, you know, I need. 0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:51.479 To say, like I went to school with like these 0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:55.640 young lions, Like when I was in school, like my 0:45:55.800 --> 0:46:00.440 third day of school, Di Francesco is getting pulled out 0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:07.960 by Miles Davis because like it'll be like, who was 0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:09.120 Miles's keyboard play? 0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:09.960 Was it Kenny Kirkland? 0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:10.719 No? 0:46:11.320 --> 0:46:16.160 Uh, which year before he passed away, like eighty six 0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:17.479 doing the tow To era. 0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:20.400 I think one of those guys wasn't Kenny the definitely 0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:22.359 one Kenny Kurt Okay. 0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:25.759 I forget it was, but you know I'll be like, yo, 0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:28.680 where are you going? And he'd be like, now it's 0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:31.160 sucking up again. So Miles is sending for me. I 0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:35.840 mean there's a typical that likes you know, Elis Marcellus 0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:37.200 come and take Christian Al school. 0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:37.520 For two weeks. 0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:42.239 You know, so like basically they were they were the 0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:46.520 young lions of my generation. But the thing was is 0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:54.080 that they were following traditional jazz right And obviously, I 0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:55.400 guess my introduction to. 0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:58.480 Your world was via Balau. 0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:04.439 Yeah, and you know, and hearing Bloud break every rule 0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:10.400 of what song structure was, and I'm wondering, well, okay, 0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:13.560 and I asked. I was like, well, who's the who's 0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:15.680 the music version of you? Like who else is breaking 0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:18.720 the rules? And then I met all of you guys 0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:25.240 in a month or so, and I just never seen 0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.840 because I knew you guys were seen as jazz musicians. 0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:32.040 But I was always wondering if whether or not you 0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:36.439 get embraced by the jazz community, like would they let 0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:40.720 you play in reindeer games? Because you guys were looking 0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:42.600 at the rule books and sort of just throwing it 0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:43.520 out the window, like. 0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:45.719 Did you have to master it? 0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:47.800 Like did you have to sneak in the house first 0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:51.120 and sort of talk their language and d and then 0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:54.520 hold them hostage once you at your power? 0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:57.000 Like about that process. 0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:02.960 And you do that to that I'll tell you why. 0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:05.759 I'll tell you why because when I got to the 0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:11.279 New School in ninety seven for college, Yeah, I met 0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:13.400 Balal the first day of school. And we were like 0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:17.160 one of eight black people at the school, at the 0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:21.160 New School, at the New School, like in the jazz program. Yeah, 0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:24.319 what a lot of black people. Maybe exaggerating, maybe they 0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:29.880 were fifteen honestly, yeah, opposition to everybody was black. Yeah, 0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:30.759 so check it out. 0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:31.040 Though. 0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:33.520 They put out a freshman in the room and they 0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:37.040 called you at random to come on the stage. They 0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:40.799 called me and Balao on stage at random together to 0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:41.720 play a song together. 0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:45.280 Wow, don't tell you what to play is just whatever, 0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:45.640 y'all know. 0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:47.520 You go there with a bunch of cat They called 0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:50.080 on drum, so and so on piano, Robert Glass, room vocal, 0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:52.840 Balo Oliver. We get up to play the song, we 0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:54.839 got off the stage. We looked at each other like, yeah, 0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:56.759 well do they give you a fake book? At least 0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:59.320 they're like what do you no, you just call tunes 0:48:59.560 --> 0:49:04.080 nopeposed to it? Yeah, Or you talk to each other 0:49:04.120 --> 0:49:05.719 and be like, you know this, now you know this, 0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:08.960 I don't know kind of you know, just like like 0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:10.000 you do at a jazz club. 0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:12.319 Now you know so and so. I think, so you 0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:12.759 figure it. 0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:17.799 Out, but whatever, remember what it was. I have no 0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:21.360 idea what it was. But when we got off me 0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:24.960 and we we were you know, you couldn't separate us 0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:29.240 after that because it was like, you know, he spoke 0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:33.840 a different language immediately, And so we began working on 0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:37.279 stuff together and one of the president of the school 0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:40.040 at the time, Arnie Lawrence, he passed away. He saw 0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:42.840 us and was like, you two have something. Y'all should 0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:44.839 go in and work on a demo for Balave and 0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:47.080 we were like, okay. So he said, my friend has 0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:50.000 a studio around the corner. Y'all can I talked to 0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:52.960 him already, y'all can go over there and kind of 0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:55.600 come up with some stuff. And his boy was Aaron 0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:58.800 colemas As spend doctors. 0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:01.200 Fucking spin doctors. They believe this story. 0:50:01.200 --> 0:50:05.960 When told me, I'm like, who were doing this? 0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:13.160 And I was like what, Yeah. So we were going 0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:17.600 over there after school every day just writing songs and yeah, 0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:19.719 a bunch of just jazz music is are on the 0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:21.960 album because we didn't know anybody that played anything else. 0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:23.920 We just knew the cats from the school. So that 0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:30.200 was Queen of Sanity the demo. Yeah, yes, Penny Sanity. Yeah, 0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:31.960 and y'all came just right. You and James came in 0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:34.760 there and redid it. Yeah, we did the drums. 0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:38.799 Yeah, that was essentially when I when I heard that demo, Man, 0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:43.160 I you know again, I'm I'm happy to say. 0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:48.720 That my my my one record of the six demos 0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:51.799 I ever heard and listened to and became fans of, 0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:56.560 like they all became like something in the world of course, 0:50:56.600 --> 0:51:00.600 you know, Little Brothers, Jill Scott, Slum Village. 0:51:01.200 --> 0:51:05.200 But hearing that BELOWD demo, I don't know how it 0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:09.400 came across. I don't know who played it for me whatever, 0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:11.520 but I just I thought, this person. 0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:19.720 I remember you being about. 0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:22.480 Yeah much much of my detriment. 0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:27.640 If there's ever a recapping of the kind of Black 0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:33.240 Lily Roots Jam session story like in oral history or whatever, uh, 0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:37.160 my enthusiasm for wanting to work with Blaw definitely made 0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:41.319 Moan to Fuckers feel a certain way where because I 0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:44.439 mean basically every everyone had a job at this thing, 0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:47.960 and it was more like, Okay, I'm the money, you know, 0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:51.840 like so tour money back to the system, back to 0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:54.759 the you know, and I would make appearances every now 0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:58.080 and then, but it's like after working on you know, 0:51:58.160 --> 0:52:00.640 the stuff an Electric Lady and then coming back to 0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:03.320 do root stuff like I wasn't trying to like also 0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:06.280 do five hours at these jam sessions. 0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:08.560 But here in below sing man, I was just like, 0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:13.120 all right, I'll come. Yeah, yeah, so you know, just. 0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:19.520 Ye and those those jam sessions so blow. So we 0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:21.920 started working on the demo whatever, and me and him 0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:24.640 used to get on a bus from school and go 0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:27.160 down to Philly on Monday and Monday nights to the 0:52:27.160 --> 0:52:30.880 five spot Tuesdayesday, Tuesday, we should go to the bus 0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:33.120 and go we go stay at his mom's house in Germantown. 0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:35.480 That was my first times ever going to Philly. Just 0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:37.759 a week go to those jam sessions. And then y'all 0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:40.359 started coming to doing the ones at Lake Street. 0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:43.759 Yeah on a at uh which the theme is the 0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:46.720 spot uh Wetlands Wetlands. 0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:50.439 So seeing y'all play live. But I was always trying 0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:53.120 to get me to understand how to play y'all ship, 0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:55.319 and I didn't understand what the fuck he was talking about. 0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:59.120 He's like, you no, like you know, like, don't play 0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:04.080 it on, play it off? What like you know how 0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:06.680 to play, but you don't know how to play. What 0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:11.000 the are you talking about? No, nigga like like, and 0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:14.320 then I saw y'all live. And I saw James Poyser 0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:19.400 and I was like, so that made me. I kept 0:53:19.400 --> 0:53:21.160 going back, and then he would let me sit in 0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:22.920 with you. Yo, you would let me sit in you know. 0:53:23.040 --> 0:53:24.640 I was like, I was like, oh, I was jazz 0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:27.080 bread and I would sit in with y'all. And because 0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:29.680 of sitting in with you with the roots, that's how 0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:32.759 I learned how to play that ship. I didn't I 0:53:32.960 --> 0:53:34.799 never heard it. I didn't understand what it was. 0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:38.440 That's so weird to me because in my mind, you 0:53:38.480 --> 0:53:43.720 and all your Hustonians just have another relationship with time, 0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:50.359 with with meter in time that is beyond anything I've 0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:53.520 done or you know, dare I say at Dyla or whatever, 0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:58.120 like I I just I'd never seen. I mean, it's 0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:01.440 like watching the animaniacs in the water tower, Like you 0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:03.840 know when you see them running and help the smooth. 0:54:04.680 --> 0:54:10.279 That's a crazy analogy, like. 0:54:10.520 --> 0:54:11.200 That's what I mean. 0:54:11.320 --> 0:54:14.440 Like, but what I want to know is how did 0:54:14.480 --> 0:54:19.000 you force the jazz world to your will? Because I 0:54:19.040 --> 0:54:23.279 don't think that's I don't think that's an easy it's 0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:26.920 not task like that's that's what. 0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:31.399 Well, here's the thing I always knew that I had 0:54:31.440 --> 0:54:35.640 to make sure that I could play jazz with the 0:54:35.640 --> 0:54:38.080 best of them before I decided to do anything else, 0:54:38.360 --> 0:54:38.960 you know what I mean. 0:54:39.000 --> 0:54:40.080 I had to Like. 0:54:40.040 --> 0:54:43.919 When Herbie played with Miles put his first few albums out, 0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:46.760 there was no you couldn't question Herb about ship, about 0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:51.439 can you play that? All that? That was always Soil five. 0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:54.279 There's no argument there. So when he did Headhunters, you 0:54:54.320 --> 0:54:56.560 cannot like it if you want to, but you can't 0:54:56.960 --> 0:55:00.239 dispute him as a jazz artist, you know what I mean, 0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:03.440 as a jazz piano player, especially being black, they're so 0:55:03.600 --> 0:55:05.360 quick to want to call you a hip hop piano 0:55:05.400 --> 0:55:08.520 player or R and B player. They're really quick to 0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:11.759 not want to give you the title of that. So 0:55:11.840 --> 0:55:13.480 it was it was in my mind I was like, 0:55:13.520 --> 0:55:16.319 well no, even when I before I got signed, I said, 0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:18.000 in my mind I knew I was I want to 0:55:18.040 --> 0:55:21.960 do a few jazz albums first to shut these motherfuckers 0:55:22.040 --> 0:55:23.839 up who are gonna be talking? And then I want 0:55:23.840 --> 0:55:25.359 to do my other ship. 0:55:25.880 --> 0:55:26.000 You know. 0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:28.560 It was almost like it reminded me of like the 0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:30.960 like Donald Bird. That's how I always kind of saw 0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:33.440 your career is like, yeah, Donald Bird, But then you know, 0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:34.960 he did his thing, but then when he got with 0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:39.800 the Moselle Brothers, Yep, it just became you know something. 0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:41.840 Yeah, for sure, exactly exactly, and that's my thing. I 0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:44.520 wanted to make sure. So then when that happened, my 0:55:44.640 --> 0:55:46.600 thing was just grabbing all the young people because I 0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:49.520 felt like jazz for young people anymore. And what made 0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:55.040 what made me get into jazz was Roy. Roy came 0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:58.279 to my Roy Roy came to my school and when 0:55:58.320 --> 0:56:01.120 I was in eleventh grade, I'll never forget it. He 0:56:01.200 --> 0:56:03.359 went there too, right, No, he went to the one, 0:56:03.360 --> 0:56:06.279 and he in Dallas with Erica. He went to the 0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:11.440 He went to Washington, Yeah, Norah Jones and the whole thing. 0:56:11.560 --> 0:56:14.000 So that was our rival. We rivaled them off time 0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:20.120 for all state jazz competitions and shit. So when Roy 0:56:20.200 --> 0:56:22.520 came to our school when I was in eleventh grade, 0:56:22.640 --> 0:56:25.120 he was already Warhard Grove album. So he came to 0:56:25.160 --> 0:56:28.440 the school and he had on like overalls and Tim's 0:56:29.000 --> 0:56:31.320 you know, and his band was black. 0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:33.040 I never seen that. 0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:37.680 I've never seen five young black guys that looked like me, 0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:41.240 dressed like me, talk like me up there playing jazz. 0:56:41.560 --> 0:56:43.440 That's never you never seen that. 0:56:43.440 --> 0:56:45.520 Because when you're in school, the pictures of jazz is 0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:47.479 what they give you, and it's all in black and white, 0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:49.480 and it's everybody has them a suit and it's not 0:56:49.880 --> 0:56:52.480 you know, it's nothing. It's nothing that has anything to 0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:53.800 do with you right now. 0:56:53.719 --> 0:56:53.920 You know. 0:56:55.120 --> 0:56:58.799 So Roy made he completely changed my whole ship. So 0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:01.120 that's literally why I am the way I am now 0:57:01.239 --> 0:57:03.440 because I feel like I'm killing the stereotype, you know 0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:05.680 what I mean. I feel like when people look at 0:57:05.680 --> 0:57:07.560 me a lot of times, they don't know they you 0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:08.920 don't know what the fuck I do, you know what 0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:11.040 I mean? And when I was, you know, selling out 0:57:11.040 --> 0:57:13.520 the Blue Note and the Vanguard and all these places, 0:57:13.800 --> 0:57:16.000 white people will walk by me. I would be outside 0:57:16.040 --> 0:57:17.560 hang on my friend. They walk by me looking at 0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:20.200 me like what are you doing here? I'm like, well, 0:57:20.240 --> 0:57:24.200 actually come out right, you know. But them people on 0:57:24.240 --> 0:57:25.760 the bus, and a lot of that is like, you know, 0:57:26.000 --> 0:57:27.520 they don't know. They come to New York and get 0:57:27.520 --> 0:57:29.560 on the bus and they take you to where somebody 0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:31.440 famous is playing, you know what I mean. But they 0:57:31.440 --> 0:57:33.000 look at me and my je's and my T shirt 0:57:33.040 --> 0:57:34.920 and it's like, oh, we if I was walking down 0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:36.880 the street you think I'm a rapper or you think 0:57:36.960 --> 0:57:37.520 I'm whatever. 0:57:37.600 --> 0:57:38.040 You know what I'm saying. 0:57:38.080 --> 0:57:39.520 Don't think I'm about to hear and play still up 0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:42.640 by Starlight or actually play this piano the way I do, 0:57:42.840 --> 0:57:44.400 you know what I mean. And that's what I got, 0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:47.400 literally got that from Roy and that's what made kids. 0:57:47.680 --> 0:57:49.760 He inspired me so much because he looked like me. 0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:51.120 So I was like, that's what I want to do, 0:57:51.200 --> 0:57:52.960 you know what I mean, I want to inspire the 0:57:53.040 --> 0:57:55.040 young cat. So I think when it came to the 0:57:55.120 --> 0:57:58.960 jazz world, I just ignored them and really went for 0:57:59.000 --> 0:58:01.280 the young people, you know what I mean, but still 0:58:01.360 --> 0:58:04.480 keeping the integrity of jazz, but making it to something 0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:07.080 where they could identify with, you know what I mean. 0:58:07.120 --> 0:58:10.120 And that's a while the Jazz war couldn't deny it anymore. 0:58:10.160 --> 0:58:10.720 They tried to. 0:58:11.120 --> 0:58:12.880 I think you have to do that though, because I think, 0:58:13.000 --> 0:58:15.320 you know, even like in all forms of music, you 0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:18.040 have to kind of, if not necessarily, appeal to the 0:58:18.080 --> 0:58:19.960 young people. You at least have to know how to 0:58:20.000 --> 0:58:23.480 communicate with them because they're the ones that's coming next. 0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:26.880 So if you want your thing to live on, you 0:58:27.040 --> 0:58:29.560 gotta get the youngins so they can be it on, 0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:30.280 you know what I mean. 0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:33.280 Rapper in that conversation to like in a way where 0:58:33.320 --> 0:58:34.160 like his projects. 0:58:36.760 --> 0:58:39.960 I was going to ask kind I was going to ask. 0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:50.320 There was the jazz police of likeuch, when Marcella's all 0:58:50.440 --> 0:58:55.880 these cats, is there such thing as the jazz police? 0:58:55.920 --> 0:58:57.480 Like there's still people. 0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:05.120 Himself? Guy, Oh, that's okay, nigga. 0:59:06.880 --> 0:59:07.440 Jazz police. 0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:10.200 Oh, y'all didn't see it. Y'all didn't y'all didn't see it. 0:59:11.280 --> 0:59:14.960 Right years ago, Branford. 0:59:14.560 --> 0:59:19.280 Turncoat on you, nigga hold on, Branford, put put me out. Look, 0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:22.840 this happened maybe two years two years ago, maybe three 0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:26.160 years ago. Two years ago he did a uh he 0:59:26.240 --> 0:59:29.479 did an interview for one of them jazz magazine, maybe 0:59:29.520 --> 0:59:31.600 down Beat or something like that, And in the middle 0:59:31.600 --> 0:59:34.520 of the interview, they were like, so, Branford, what do 0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:37.520 you think about what people like Robert Glasper and Camassie 0:59:37.600 --> 0:59:40.520 Washington are doing? You know you did, but shot Lafunk. 0:59:40.840 --> 0:59:45.000 What do you think about Robert Glasper's doing? He said, well, 0:59:45.080 --> 0:59:48.120 you know, Jack Camosi, he's not a jazz he's not 0:59:48.160 --> 0:59:51.520 a jazz saxophone player. Just do him all the way over. 0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:55.560 Then he said and Robert. I mean, I'm glad he's 0:59:55.600 --> 0:59:58.760 doing what he's doing because he's he has delimited jazz 0:59:59.280 --> 1:00:03.680 vocabulary also, and then you ask him, he'll tell you 1:00:03.760 --> 1:00:07.560 the same thing. Those were literally his words, SI, Robert. 1:00:07.320 --> 1:00:08.400 Do you have a limited jazz? 1:00:12.560 --> 1:00:12.760 Like? 1:00:13.280 --> 1:00:13.360 What? 1:00:14.320 --> 1:00:14.600 Who? 1:00:15.960 --> 1:00:16.640 Heartbroken? 1:00:17.520 --> 1:00:19.680 What are you talking about? 1:00:19.720 --> 1:00:20.840 What are you talking about? 1:00:21.320 --> 1:00:24.040 Do you not know who you are? 1:00:22.960 --> 1:00:23.000 So? 1:00:24.320 --> 1:00:28.560 So for the listener, if you have a limited jazz vocabulary, 1:00:28.880 --> 1:00:30.280 who hasn't unlimited? 1:00:31.160 --> 1:00:31.760 Who is that? 1:00:32.200 --> 1:00:32.439 Yeah? 1:00:32.480 --> 1:00:34.800 That was like, come on bro, like that now you're now? 1:00:35.000 --> 1:00:39.000 That was that was That's reckless. That's reckless. That's like 1:00:39.360 --> 1:00:41.920 you know he they didn't even ask him that. That 1:00:42.000 --> 1:00:44.640 wasn't even the question. He didn't ask do you think 1:00:44.720 --> 1:00:47.200 they're jazz musicians? Or do you think what they're doing jazz? 1:00:47.280 --> 1:00:50.560 They said you did bust shot lafunk. So they were 1:00:50.640 --> 1:00:56.200 literally speaking to crossing over ye And he took that time, 1:00:56.520 --> 1:00:59.800 took that little platform to put us down. Instead of 1:00:59.800 --> 1:01:02.240 being I'm like, oh well, ship Robert Glass with Black Radio. 1:01:02.320 --> 1:01:06.040 That's doing that's great. I'm happy, but something used to 1:01:06.240 --> 1:01:08.840 don't use that platform to shoot down the two top 1:01:08.960 --> 1:01:12.600 black instrumental jazz musicians that you know what I mean, 1:01:12.720 --> 1:01:13.560 why would you do that? 1:01:14.000 --> 1:01:18.400 Come on, brove, Frank McCombe, what do you think is required? 1:01:18.560 --> 1:01:23.120 I mean, you know every genre has there and they 1:01:23.120 --> 1:01:26.720 were disrespecting Branford. You know, just there's always the grumpy will. 1:01:26.600 --> 1:01:27.440 Go out Branford. 1:01:27.480 --> 1:01:29.000 I know he did that. 1:01:29.080 --> 1:01:33.080 I love him, y'all. Have you have you seen him? 1:01:33.120 --> 1:01:34.320 Y'all ran into each other. 1:01:34.720 --> 1:01:36.720 No, but before he said that, I ran to him 1:01:36.720 --> 1:01:38.440 at the club. But we had dreams he was playing. 1:01:38.720 --> 1:01:40.680 I went to see him play. I had had a 1:01:40.800 --> 1:01:43.480 night off in Seattle. He was playing. Me and Chris 1:01:43.520 --> 1:01:45.360 and a few other people went down there hung out. 1:01:45.600 --> 1:01:48.200 I'll always shown Brandford love. He's always actually shown him. 1:01:48.320 --> 1:01:49.880 We've been cool every time I see him. You know 1:01:49.920 --> 1:01:51.760 what I'm saying. But I just felt like, why not. 1:01:51.800 --> 1:01:53.280 If you was gonna say that, you could have said 1:01:53.280 --> 1:01:53.920 that to my face. 1:01:54.000 --> 1:01:55.840 You could have been said that to my face, bro 1:01:56.240 --> 1:01:59.040 no matter. In fact, I saw him at International Jazz Day. 1:01:59.520 --> 1:02:01.960 I saw me the National Jazz Day in Russia maybe 1:02:02.160 --> 1:02:04.640 two years ago something, and that, oh you know what, 1:02:04.720 --> 1:02:09.360 and we had a little oh you know, it's. 1:02:09.200 --> 1:02:15.880 All coming the National Jazz you know, you know that 1:02:16.040 --> 1:02:18.320 is like they they bring in a bunch of jazz 1:02:18.400 --> 1:02:21.040 musicians and and and they put it. 1:02:21.040 --> 1:02:23.640 They put you in a different country every year and 1:02:23.760 --> 1:02:26.360 to promote jazz, you know, and you do a concert 1:02:26.360 --> 1:02:29.360 together and they break you up a little groups and 1:02:29.400 --> 1:02:32.240 you do like one song. So we did the International 1:02:32.320 --> 1:02:35.600 Jazz Day thing and me and Brandford backstage is somebody 1:02:35.760 --> 1:02:39.919 came up and was like, so, what do y'all think? 1:02:40.120 --> 1:02:44.040 What makes jazz jazz? And we're talking about it, you know, 1:02:44.120 --> 1:02:50.800 and Brandford said, the space between the quarter notes. Okay, 1:02:51.960 --> 1:02:55.919 I was like, before it sounds what do you mean 1:02:56.000 --> 1:02:58.400 the space between the like literally the space between the 1:02:58.480 --> 1:03:00.960 quarter notes, like the space between us. So I was 1:03:01.040 --> 1:03:05.240 like the space between the court. So literally it's a 1:03:05.240 --> 1:03:08.120 mathematical thing, like if you do this space with this 1:03:08.200 --> 1:03:10.720 space recording, does that's We kind of got into a 1:03:11.120 --> 1:03:13.640 think about it because the answer he gave was like, 1:03:13.800 --> 1:03:16.320 come on, bro, like it sounds it sounded like witting. 1:03:18.400 --> 1:03:21.000 I mean, no one has the true aunt like the no, 1:03:21.040 --> 1:03:21.480 we don't. 1:03:21.480 --> 1:03:24.760 But there's nerds like me that wanted a scientific definition, 1:03:25.080 --> 1:03:29.680 and there's creatives like you that you know that will 1:03:29.720 --> 1:03:32.800 never have the right answer or whatever, Like I don't 1:03:32.800 --> 1:03:36.200 think any creative truly knows what the definition of what 1:03:36.400 --> 1:03:37.680 makes their art form tick. 1:03:38.600 --> 1:03:39.120 You know, yeah. 1:03:39.440 --> 1:03:42.080 Right, But then but we're having to just a discussion 1:03:42.160 --> 1:03:44.560 and I'm like, yo, we start talking about tunes. I said, 1:03:44.560 --> 1:03:47.120 so because this is not swing. We're talking about talking 1:03:47.120 --> 1:03:49.680 aout yet symbol everything. And it was like, so you're 1:03:49.840 --> 1:03:52.840 you're you're now defining a whole genre by a rhythm. 1:03:53.080 --> 1:03:55.520 So because it doesn't ting to day and ten today, 1:03:55.800 --> 1:03:58.520 it's not jazz. So what's red clay And he was like, 1:03:58.640 --> 1:04:01.960 not jazz, right, I said, so red Clayga. 1:04:02.040 --> 1:04:04.520 So this is this is trapped versus real hip hop. 1:04:04.560 --> 1:04:09.200 I get this, this is versus This is a long argument, right, 1:04:10.840 --> 1:04:11.240 I get it. 1:04:13.240 --> 1:04:15.080 I get it for everybody. 1:04:15.320 --> 1:04:17.040 But for somebody who made by some of the funk, 1:04:17.080 --> 1:04:20.600 I just suspected something different. I expect a different answer. 1:04:21.080 --> 1:04:22.480 I just expect a different answer. 1:04:22.720 --> 1:04:25.280 But that was But again, that was twenty six years ago. 1:04:25.360 --> 1:04:29.600 That was And look, even though Winton went and innovated 1:04:29.640 --> 1:04:32.080 the music and then stopped, he did Black Codes and 1:04:32.120 --> 1:04:36.440 then stopped. Black Holds is such an innovative record. You know, 1:04:36.480 --> 1:04:40.000 Black Codes from the Underground, Black Codes from the Underground. Bro, 1:04:40.240 --> 1:04:45.440 It's like absolutely fucking incredible. You know, one of my 1:04:45.440 --> 1:04:50.760 favorite records of this absolutely absolutely you know, uh went 1:04:50.800 --> 1:04:52.280 and called me go ahead. 1:04:52.240 --> 1:04:56.280 Oh wait, go ahead, go back to that because he calls. 1:04:56.120 --> 1:04:58.960 You remember the whole nother ram. I don't know if 1:04:59.000 --> 1:05:01.320 you want to step into it, because now we want 1:05:01.320 --> 1:05:04.120 to know because it was because of the Lord Hill stuff. 1:05:09.920 --> 1:05:11.040 Come on, come on with the smoke. 1:05:12.680 --> 1:05:14.920 No went and called me. I was in Japan and 1:05:15.000 --> 1:05:17.720 never forget it. He called. He texted me and was like, Yo, 1:05:18.200 --> 1:05:21.440 is this Robert Glaswar. I was like, yeah, who's this? 1:05:21.640 --> 1:05:23.360 He was like this went and I was like, oh, ship, 1:05:23.440 --> 1:05:23.800 what's up? 1:05:23.840 --> 1:05:24.280 How you doing? 1:05:24.320 --> 1:05:24.480 Man? 1:05:24.480 --> 1:05:26.480 It's like, hey man, you know, I just wanted to 1:05:26.720 --> 1:05:29.160 call and tell you, you know, let this Lauryn Hill ship go. 1:05:29.640 --> 1:05:31.640 And I was like that's his first words to you. 1:05:31.680 --> 1:05:36.280 Ever, yes, you ain't going next ever on the phone. 1:05:36.320 --> 1:05:37.920 We don't talk on the phone. I don't talk to 1:05:37.960 --> 1:05:40.520 me on the phone. You know in. 1:05:40.440 --> 1:05:47.000 Japan, this ship is costing me extra money. 1:05:46.680 --> 1:05:48.400 Facing my dad and talk to me about this ship. 1:05:49.440 --> 1:05:51.480 He's like, let this Lauryn Hill shit go. First of all, 1:05:51.520 --> 1:05:53.800 I never drug it on. I said I did that 1:05:53.880 --> 1:05:56.280 ready interview, and I never posted about it. I never 1:05:56.320 --> 1:05:58.880 said anything about it ever again online. You know what 1:05:58.880 --> 1:06:01.640 I'm saying. That READI to interview posted and I didn't 1:06:01.640 --> 1:06:03.000 put sh it on my I G. I didn't even 1:06:03.040 --> 1:06:05.600 put that radio on my face. But nothing. So he 1:06:05.680 --> 1:06:07.520 hit me with that let this go. And I was like, well, 1:06:07.640 --> 1:06:10.120 I'm not doing anything, but you know, the truth is 1:06:10.120 --> 1:06:10.480 the truth. 1:06:10.480 --> 1:06:11.640 I don't really know what you want me to do. 1:06:11.680 --> 1:06:13.200 He was just like, man, you know she's got all 1:06:13.200 --> 1:06:15.680 these followers and stuff, and you know you're not gonna 1:06:15.680 --> 1:06:17.560 win that battle, and I just think it's best if 1:06:17.600 --> 1:06:18.960 you just battle. 1:06:19.080 --> 1:06:20.920 I'm not battling. 1:06:21.440 --> 1:06:26.080 Wait, you're missing the most important part. When Marcellus knows 1:06:26.080 --> 1:06:26.800 who Lauren. 1:06:26.680 --> 1:06:35.600 Hill is what, Yeah, hairs as a whole other level too. 1:06:36.200 --> 1:06:39.360 You sall seven millionaires niggas. 1:06:39.040 --> 1:06:42.680 Know who to definitely dude, dude, first of all, Yeah, 1:06:42.760 --> 1:06:46.720 this lord, I never thought when left this jazz bubble. 1:06:47.080 --> 1:06:49.920 I know, I know, but that those things to bring up, 1:06:50.080 --> 1:06:52.880 that's crazy. That's what he texted me about our first 1:06:52.920 --> 1:06:54.640 text and only text to this day. 1:06:55.400 --> 1:06:57.240 Congratulations on you know. 1:06:59.640 --> 1:06:59.960 Your word? 1:07:00.320 --> 1:07:00.480 Uh? 1:07:03.480 --> 1:07:05.800 I told him, I said, but every time I saw him, 1:07:05.840 --> 1:07:08.440 every time I see him in person, and honestly, when 1:07:08.440 --> 1:07:10.560 I go see him play. He invites me up to play. 1:07:10.680 --> 1:07:12.120 He calls me up on stage and ship, you know 1:07:12.160 --> 1:07:13.840 what I mean. So I don't have a beef for 1:07:14.160 --> 1:07:15.640 no real beef. Win you know, some of the things 1:07:15.680 --> 1:07:17.520 he says. It's like, come on, bro, you know, but 1:07:18.040 --> 1:07:20.400 he's fine. It's fine. And he's never thrown me under 1:07:20.400 --> 1:07:22.600 the bus in some interview, you know, or tried to 1:07:22.640 --> 1:07:25.920 do anything malicious, but you know, so we were texted 1:07:25.960 --> 1:07:28.720 about that, and then finally I was like, Yo, every 1:07:28.720 --> 1:07:29.920 time I see him, I say, I'm gonna get you 1:07:29.960 --> 1:07:31.840 on some hip hop ship. He was like, oh, bro, 1:07:31.960 --> 1:07:34.080 you know, I'm gonna just deal with the swing. I 1:07:34.520 --> 1:07:36.840 ain't down with the bitches and the niggas. And I 1:07:36.880 --> 1:07:41.640 was like, I said that, that's what I said. I said, Bro, 1:07:42.040 --> 1:07:44.880 all hip hop isn't like that. That's one little second 1:07:44.920 --> 1:07:48.800 him different styles of jazz. There's different kinds. And I say, 1:07:48.800 --> 1:07:50.720 if you ever checked out anything I've done, you don't 1:07:50.720 --> 1:07:53.360 hear that. He was like, you know, well, I don't know. 1:07:53.440 --> 1:07:55.480 We'll we'll, we'll see. But he always says that every 1:07:55.520 --> 1:08:03.400 time I see him, he's the great. It's like, come on, bro, 1:08:03.520 --> 1:08:04.400 that's not Yeah. 1:08:04.280 --> 1:08:06.080 It's so crazy when at one point you was a 1:08:06.120 --> 1:08:09.040 young dude like and Jack. Jazz beats are so funny 1:08:09.040 --> 1:08:11.160 to me. They've been happening for like just the beginning. 1:08:11.280 --> 1:08:14.720 It's just have you, have you? And have you and 1:08:14.800 --> 1:08:20.760 Lauren ever talked after that? Since posting black Radio, you know. 1:08:21.400 --> 1:08:25.040 Right, well you do it. Look but look hold on. 1:08:25.479 --> 1:08:27.280 And let me on that song so I can also 1:08:27.320 --> 1:08:29.559 ouve branch that moment to too. 1:08:29.720 --> 1:08:30.960 Yeah you got it, you got a men. 1:08:31.640 --> 1:08:36.160 You health feed the fire, Robert Glass, But Patty Beef, 1:08:36.160 --> 1:08:39.400 Patty Chef, you changed your Twitter your Twitter handle to 1:08:39.520 --> 1:08:43.680 Robert Glass Beef Patty Chefs. 1:08:43.800 --> 1:08:47.519 No healing, It's no healing, It's no The shocker is. 1:08:47.520 --> 1:08:54.559 A way Marcel Lauren Hill. Lauren Hill known social media Twitter. 1:08:54.720 --> 1:08:55.439 This is a great day. 1:08:55.560 --> 1:08:59.040 Look Ilmosa saw her at at uh what is the 1:08:59.120 --> 1:09:06.679 North Seat Jazz Festival. I literally was sitting outside and 1:09:07.200 --> 1:09:10.919 a bus pulled up and it was her tour bus, 1:09:11.400 --> 1:09:13.720 and all the cats came off like yo, rah blah 1:09:13.720 --> 1:09:16.400 blah blah. They were like, well, Lauren just got off 1:09:16.400 --> 1:09:18.479 at the other place. I was like, okay, cool, that 1:09:18.479 --> 1:09:21.519 would have been amazing if I haven't seen them since then. 1:09:22.160 --> 1:09:24.519 But my thing is my thing is that you saw 1:09:24.560 --> 1:09:26.960 her statement she wrote after that, right, it. 1:09:27.040 --> 1:09:31.920 Was so many where it was where emojis in it, 1:09:32.280 --> 1:09:34.800 and I was like, emoji's. 1:09:34.360 --> 1:09:38.360 Are shut and honestly, and I didn't know it was 1:09:38.360 --> 1:09:39.840 the twenty when I did that interview. I didn't know 1:09:39.840 --> 1:09:42.680 what the twentieth anniversary of fucking that the album the 1:09:42.680 --> 1:09:48.080 mis Education, Yes, I mean where the god And I've 1:09:48.120 --> 1:09:50.840 never talked that. My laurn Hill situation happened in two 1:09:50.840 --> 1:09:53.880 thousand and seven. We did this interview and what two 1:09:53.920 --> 1:09:59.000 thousand and six seven? Yeah, I've never said it out loud. 1:09:59.280 --> 1:10:02.719 On the interview, they asked me, what's the worst musical 1:10:02.720 --> 1:10:04.760 experience you've ever had? And that is the first, and 1:10:05.400 --> 1:10:07.920 that's the first one that ever comes to mind is 1:10:07.960 --> 1:10:08.679 working with Lauren. 1:10:08.840 --> 1:10:09.519 It was terrible. 1:10:09.840 --> 1:10:13.040 Poison to the truth, the poison text you. 1:10:13.240 --> 1:10:15.120 A lot of people text me, yeah, a lot of 1:10:15.120 --> 1:10:18.439 people text me like thank you, you know, thank you. Ship. 1:10:19.040 --> 1:10:21.200 We can't I can't say that ship, but thank you. 1:10:21.280 --> 1:10:24.720 A lot of cats was like good looks you know 1:10:25.760 --> 1:10:27.200 some of them cats, you can't. They can't. 1:10:27.240 --> 1:10:28.200 You know, I can say that ship. 1:10:28.240 --> 1:10:28.559 I'm good. 1:10:28.600 --> 1:10:30.760 Fuck you know, but you know, and. 1:10:30.680 --> 1:10:33.280 The other cats that she uses in that way don't 1:10:33.280 --> 1:10:35.960 have the platform and say ship, you know what I mean. 1:10:36.000 --> 1:10:38.439 So I felt like or the power to sation and 1:10:38.479 --> 1:10:41.400 my It wasn't me purposely coming at her. It was 1:10:41.479 --> 1:10:44.160 just that's what it was. And everything was truth, everything 1:10:44.240 --> 1:10:47.400 was fat, and everything's still happening, you know what I mean. 1:10:47.439 --> 1:10:47.960 So it's like. 1:10:49.439 --> 1:10:51.360 A whole gift to jazz in so many ways. 1:10:51.720 --> 1:10:51.880 Yo. 1:10:52.160 --> 1:10:55.000 You well look, I'm here, I'm serious. I thought about 1:10:55.000 --> 1:10:57.400 this the other day. I was like, wouldn't it be. 1:11:10.560 --> 1:11:12.479 Yeah, the government. 1:11:12.560 --> 1:11:15.200 I thought about that though, would if would if we 1:11:15.240 --> 1:11:16.760 got her on Black Radio three. 1:11:17.600 --> 1:11:20.600 Look man, it's twenty twenty and we're running out of 1:11:20.600 --> 1:11:22.000 space on our Bengo cards. 1:11:22.560 --> 1:11:23.200 You produced it? 1:11:23.200 --> 1:11:23.839 What happened? 1:11:24.520 --> 1:11:25.320 You produce it? 1:11:26.160 --> 1:11:28.559 Listen? That would be crazy, bro, it. 1:11:28.600 --> 1:11:29.800 Was y'all come up with your idea. 1:11:30.240 --> 1:11:32.640 I'm down for it, yo, in a silly way, in 1:11:32.680 --> 1:11:36.160 a silly, weird way. I feel like there's a possibility 1:11:36.560 --> 1:11:39.200 it could possibly happen. I think it'd be dope. So 1:11:40.040 --> 1:11:42.120 because as an artist, I have nothing against her. She's 1:11:42.160 --> 1:11:43.080 fucking looking credible. 1:11:43.080 --> 1:11:44.720 You might have to extend your due date, but I 1:11:44.720 --> 1:11:45.439 think it could happen. 1:11:46.600 --> 1:11:49.160 That'll be Yeah, it'll definitely. It probably won't come out 1:11:49.200 --> 1:11:52.760 to a Black Radio nineteen, but it'll be. 1:11:53.840 --> 1:11:55.640 Back to the theme of the show and. 1:11:59.880 --> 1:12:05.760 As you're gonna be tround. 1:12:09.120 --> 1:12:10.040 Renewed optimism. 1:12:10.040 --> 1:12:12.080 No, it's gonna get done, noh, mirreor it's gonna get done. 1:12:12.920 --> 1:12:16.639 Listen as as a person that believes in manifesting positive 1:12:16.760 --> 1:12:20.559 energy and whatnot. 1:12:20.960 --> 1:12:22.519 Yes, we're gonna make it happen. 1:12:23.439 --> 1:12:26.200 I would love it, I will say, Lauren Hill, we 1:12:26.320 --> 1:12:29.679 are officially putting out the Olive branch. 1:12:30.120 --> 1:12:30.360 Yeah. 1:12:30.800 --> 1:12:34.559 I think the better the world was better with our 1:12:34.680 --> 1:12:38.240 artistic contributions. It's needed in the world right now. 1:12:38.320 --> 1:12:40.200 So actually, really is it really is? 1:12:40.720 --> 1:12:45.720 All right? So questions while we on optimism on the 1:12:45.800 --> 1:12:50.160 Lauren jail. Yeah, oh, I mean, if I'm still aloud, I. 1:12:53.920 --> 1:13:09.840 Got sixteen for you. Okay, ask question Brandy, and I 1:13:09.840 --> 1:13:12.479 want to ask you specifically, what is it like tracking 1:13:12.520 --> 1:13:14.200 her in the studio, tracking her vocals? 1:13:16.960 --> 1:13:23.000 Brandy might be the illest tracker I've ever seen. It's incredible, bro, 1:13:23.560 --> 1:13:25.559 I've never seen nobody phase himself out. 1:13:25.920 --> 1:13:28.160 I was gonna ask you about that. I saw another interview. 1:13:28.080 --> 1:13:30.719 Three times in one in in the in the middle 1:13:30.760 --> 1:13:33.160 of doing optimistic, she phased herself out three times. 1:13:33.400 --> 1:13:36.200 That's how on top of her vocal she is with. 1:13:36.680 --> 1:13:39.800 That's how her vocal she is when she stats her 1:13:39.840 --> 1:13:43.320 ship is so exactly alike that she fakes the computer 1:13:43.400 --> 1:13:46.720 out and it makes you think you're doing the same 1:13:46.800 --> 1:13:48.040 the track again or some ship. 1:13:48.080 --> 1:13:48.320 You're not. 1:13:48.600 --> 1:13:49.200 You know what I mean? 1:13:49.360 --> 1:13:51.479 Because most people, when you read, when you sing something 1:13:51.479 --> 1:13:53.439 else and you sing it again, sing it again, let's 1:13:53.439 --> 1:13:55.160 stack it, there's always something different. 1:13:56.400 --> 1:13:58.960 It's always an imperfection, something and something. 1:13:59.080 --> 1:14:01.639 She's so dead on that shit. Phased the funk out 1:14:01.960 --> 1:14:05.639 three times, from the bread, from the breathing, from when 1:14:05.640 --> 1:14:08.440 she cut it off where the vibradis stop like everything 1:14:08.560 --> 1:14:11.240 is incredible, and she don't leave the booth to the 1:14:11.280 --> 1:14:13.960 fucking shit's done. It ain't like she come out and 1:14:14.040 --> 1:14:16.760 listen and vibe. She's like no, and she won't stop 1:14:16.800 --> 1:14:19.040 with the ideas. You have to stop her. No Brandy, 1:14:19.200 --> 1:14:24.320 no more vocal, no more stats, no harmony. Yeah, and 1:14:24.360 --> 1:14:27.200 she wants to get it. She's so enthusiastic about getting 1:14:27.240 --> 1:14:30.479 it right and just wanting to try more and more ideas. 1:14:30.560 --> 1:14:33.960 She's not a lazy singer at all. You know what 1:14:34.000 --> 1:14:36.240 I mean, Like, it's incredible work with her. Man, she 1:14:36.240 --> 1:14:38.560 has to be one of the nicest too, you know 1:14:38.600 --> 1:14:40.800 what I mean. Like even when I did when she 1:14:40.920 --> 1:14:45.120 was on my Black Radio album before that, she paid 1:14:45.120 --> 1:14:47.519 for the studio time because she was late the other 1:14:47.600 --> 1:14:49.559 time or something like that. She couldn't make it, and 1:14:49.600 --> 1:14:52.120 she was like, yo, she paid for the studio time 1:14:52.160 --> 1:14:53.519 and she you know what I mean, I didn't even 1:14:53.560 --> 1:14:56.160 know where back then. You know, she's just this is 1:14:56.200 --> 1:14:57.679 such a nice, really really nice person. 1:14:58.760 --> 1:15:02.200 Black Radio on Black Radio two. Man, you had a record, 1:15:03.400 --> 1:15:04.800 it was. It was a lot of records on the 1:15:04.920 --> 1:15:07.840 album I Love. I really loved the Emily Sun Sandy 1:15:07.920 --> 1:15:10.000 joint that Yeah, I love. 1:15:10.080 --> 1:15:11.799 That's just a great song. Just the lyrics. 1:15:11.840 --> 1:15:14.080 Yeah, that's great, dude. She wrote that ship in twenty minutes. 1:15:14.400 --> 1:15:15.120 Are you serious? 1:15:15.800 --> 1:15:17.280 That song? That song? 1:15:17.400 --> 1:15:21.799 Originally Mary J. Blog was supposed to sing it, and whoa, 1:15:22.439 --> 1:15:25.640 I had lyrics and everything already done. But getting with 1:15:25.720 --> 1:15:28.519 Mary just always kept, you know, we couldn't make it happen. 1:15:28.800 --> 1:15:31.200 So I had the lyrics in the song. I even 1:15:31.240 --> 1:15:33.280 had the song sung by somebody else to you know. 1:15:34.560 --> 1:15:37.519 Emily was in town and she came by the studio 1:15:37.560 --> 1:15:40.120 and I played her the song and she was like, 1:15:40.520 --> 1:15:40.920 I love it. 1:15:40.960 --> 1:15:41.280 I love it. 1:15:41.280 --> 1:15:43.280 She's like, do you mind if I changed the lyrics? 1:15:43.280 --> 1:15:46.120 I was like, no, do what you feel. She got 1:15:46.120 --> 1:15:48.840 a pin and pad out, walked around, wrote that joint 1:15:48.880 --> 1:15:52.800 like twenty minutes bro wow literally and put that ship 1:15:52.880 --> 1:15:56.759 down the record town for the Great Great Gatsby Premiere 1:15:56.880 --> 1:15:57.240 some ship. 1:15:58.240 --> 1:16:02.919 Yeah, yeah, the record did with the Nora record that Mossino. 1:16:03.760 --> 1:16:04.880 Yeah, I love that joint. 1:16:04.880 --> 1:16:05.040 Man. 1:16:05.120 --> 1:16:09.200 How did y'all you and Mossina like seeing the shot baby? 1:16:09.600 --> 1:16:14.719 That's like family? Yeah, and y'all's cover of god Resch 1:16:14.840 --> 1:16:17.880 you married gentlemen. Oh yeah, I need you to send 1:16:17.880 --> 1:16:18.439 me that I love. 1:16:18.600 --> 1:16:18.840 Yeah. 1:16:19.640 --> 1:16:21.920 For years I kept doing I would do that with 1:16:22.000 --> 1:16:24.040 different artists. Every year I was. I would just pick 1:16:24.080 --> 1:16:25.880 an artist, hit them up, like yeah, you want to 1:16:25.880 --> 1:16:29.080 do a Christmas song together, you know, and I'll send 1:16:29.160 --> 1:16:30.720 them the music and then put some on it and 1:16:30.720 --> 1:16:32.160 we put it out. I did it with Due Power, 1:16:32.200 --> 1:16:34.360 I did it with Keim Bred a few different beatle 1:16:35.160 --> 1:16:37.200 just throw it out, thro it out there for you know, 1:16:37.280 --> 1:16:40.599 for fun. But that joint, the nor Jones joint. So 1:16:40.680 --> 1:16:43.320 me and Nora went to jazz camp together in high 1:16:43.360 --> 1:16:46.960 school in eleventh grade. Matter of fact, I'm here. You 1:16:46.960 --> 1:16:48.000 have something to do with this too. 1:16:48.680 --> 1:16:51.520 Wait, I'm a connector. 1:16:51.720 --> 1:16:56.240 You're a connector. You don't even know it. So uh. 1:16:56.479 --> 1:16:59.240 Me and Nor went to high to jazz camp together 1:16:59.360 --> 1:17:02.840 in eleventh grade. So that's where I knew her from then. 1:17:02.920 --> 1:17:05.760 When I got to New York, I saw her my 1:17:05.800 --> 1:17:08.519 freshman year at she was at my college in the 1:17:08.560 --> 1:17:10.439 practice room at my college, at the piano. 1:17:10.760 --> 1:17:12.080 I looked in him there. I was like, nourah and 1:17:12.200 --> 1:17:12.720 I walked in there. 1:17:12.720 --> 1:17:14.479 I was like, what are you doing? She's like She's like, oh, 1:17:14.479 --> 1:17:17.360 I'm working on the demo. I was like, oh dope. 1:17:18.120 --> 1:17:20.040 Next time I saw her was on TV when of 1:17:20.080 --> 1:17:24.280 the damn Grammys. After that, After that, I sat in 1:17:24.400 --> 1:17:27.200 with the roots at Radio City. Remember you did the 1:17:27.280 --> 1:17:28.599 two nights at Radio City? 1:17:30.160 --> 1:17:32.160 Oh crap, I forgot, dude. 1:17:32.200 --> 1:17:34.680 That was one of the when people asked me some 1:17:34.720 --> 1:17:38.200 of my top moments being on stage of Crazy Ship. 1:17:39.120 --> 1:17:40.479 Oh that's right, we did. 1:17:40.520 --> 1:17:41.839 Remember when came. 1:17:42.320 --> 1:17:46.360 Yeah j He showed up. 1:17:46.400 --> 1:17:51.840 He didn't know that he could play Radio City musical dude. 1:17:52.160 --> 1:17:53.519 Never forget that ship where. 1:17:54.800 --> 1:17:58.200 Yeah and they got and and I never. 1:17:58.040 --> 1:18:00.599 Forget in the in the in theres you like jay 1:18:00.720 --> 1:18:07.720 Z's here and we did up, we did up boom, Yeah, 1:18:08.360 --> 1:18:11.880 we started playing. He walked out and had this back 1:18:11.920 --> 1:18:14.040 to the audience to the hoodie young and the lights 1:18:14.120 --> 1:18:17.080 is off. We started playing that line and no one 1:18:17.160 --> 1:18:20.200 knew he was coming. When we started playing that baseline 1:18:20.240 --> 1:18:22.680 the lights flash, he pulled his hoodie up like this, 1:18:23.080 --> 1:18:28.280 still with his back to the audience and then uh dude, 1:18:28.439 --> 1:18:31.040 when they when he turned to do the amount of 1:18:31.160 --> 1:18:35.679 like it was so crazy, bro Like, I'll never forget 1:18:35.720 --> 1:18:37.840 that moment. I'll never forget that moment. And that's where 1:18:37.840 --> 1:18:39.920 I met Dave too. That's where I met Chapelle too. 1:18:39.920 --> 1:18:42.080 I gave him piano lesson backstage at that show. 1:18:42.600 --> 1:18:44.000 Oh so you're the one that taught him. 1:18:44.240 --> 1:18:47.559 After Midnight, he's still. 1:18:48.520 --> 1:18:51.200 Still playing that ship he played. He did a solo 1:18:51.240 --> 1:18:54.639 piano at my Blue Note residency last October. He went 1:18:54.680 --> 1:18:57.120 on stage by himself and played rob Midnight on my 1:18:57.160 --> 1:19:00.479 piano by himself and thank you and walked. 1:19:05.439 --> 1:19:06.360 Playing that flight Twitter. 1:19:06.479 --> 1:19:10.479 He played that at party like He's. 1:19:11.280 --> 1:19:14.439 But anyway at that show, a regularly show after it, 1:19:14.960 --> 1:19:17.720 the after party thing upstairs or something like that. And 1:19:17.840 --> 1:19:22.720 I'm sitting on I'm sitting next to you, talking on 1:19:22.840 --> 1:19:24.320 next to somebody next to you, let me be one 1:19:24.360 --> 1:19:25.240 or two people over for you. 1:19:25.800 --> 1:19:27.120 And I reached for some. 1:19:27.200 --> 1:19:29.600 Ice and Nora was on the other side of you, 1:19:29.760 --> 1:19:32.559 and she reached for some ice, and that's what we were. 1:19:32.560 --> 1:19:38.439 I'm like, oh no, what's up. And then we got 1:19:38.479 --> 1:19:40.559 these other changed numbers. And that's how we just kept 1:19:40.640 --> 1:19:43.040 kept in connection, you know, from that, you know, but 1:19:43.400 --> 1:19:44.240 she killed that joint. 1:19:44.240 --> 1:19:44.360 Man. 1:19:44.400 --> 1:19:44.960 I love Nora. 1:19:45.160 --> 1:19:48.920 I love hearing Nora in other situations. Her voice is 1:19:48.960 --> 1:19:49.880 so dope, you know. 1:19:51.040 --> 1:19:52.120 So I really love that song. 1:19:52.200 --> 1:19:56.599 It's really dobe. Let it ride, Yeah, Andina was sick. 1:19:56.640 --> 1:19:58.640 She didn't want to write it. I sent it to 1:19:58.680 --> 1:20:00.920 Messina and I said, and I didn't know who was 1:20:00.920 --> 1:20:03.240 going to sing it yet. I just I wrote the song, 1:20:03.280 --> 1:20:06.000 and I was like, need some lyrics, and I sent him, hey, 1:20:06.040 --> 1:20:08.000 write some to this, and I need I need to 1:20:08.000 --> 1:20:09.559 get it done by this week. I don't know who's 1:20:09.560 --> 1:20:11.360 going to sing it, but write it. And she was like, 1:20:11.720 --> 1:20:14.080 I'm really sick. I don't feel I said, write the 1:20:14.160 --> 1:20:14.760 damn song. 1:20:14.920 --> 1:20:16.519 Was writing a song. 1:20:16.840 --> 1:20:20.439 She's like okay, and wrote that joint and send it 1:20:20.479 --> 1:20:22.800 to me the next day. And then Nora came in. 1:20:23.600 --> 1:20:27.559 Who have you yet to? Uh? I guess for Phil 1:20:27.640 --> 1:20:28.479 Bucket list wise? 1:20:28.520 --> 1:20:32.160 I mean, I'm sure there's everybody, but what close calls 1:20:32.160 --> 1:20:35.680 have you had with your projects that you didn't get 1:20:35.680 --> 1:20:36.400 a chance to work with? 1:20:36.479 --> 1:20:36.679 Yet? 1:20:38.280 --> 1:20:43.679 Don't say her name? As I was asking this question, 1:20:43.800 --> 1:20:45.439 I'm like, oh God, no. 1:20:45.520 --> 1:20:49.360 Do you think I'm gonna say, oh, you don't remember 1:20:49.400 --> 1:20:54.400 the Oh? Yeah, mail the roof? 1:21:01.000 --> 1:21:03.519 Is that so hard? What she that's the mayor? 1:21:03.600 --> 1:21:04.080 Call her up? 1:21:05.400 --> 1:21:06.719 Yeah? 1:21:07.160 --> 1:21:12.559 Like before Solon, Solon came through like a champ and she. 1:21:12.640 --> 1:21:14.559 Was gonna do that the little Dragon cover? 1:21:16.240 --> 1:21:19.160 Yes, wow, but what she doing? 1:21:19.479 --> 1:21:20.639 What's she doing with the mal doing? 1:21:20.640 --> 1:21:20.680 What? 1:21:21.960 --> 1:21:23.160 We try to make it? 1:21:23.240 --> 1:21:30.040 Yeah? Yeah, it didn't really work out, okay, so yeah, 1:21:30.640 --> 1:21:31.080 who else? 1:21:31.360 --> 1:21:31.800 Who else? 1:21:32.160 --> 1:21:32.680 Salon from? 1:21:34.280 --> 1:21:37.720 Look? I have a song in my computer. I did 1:21:37.760 --> 1:21:38.400 the song that need. 1:21:38.320 --> 1:21:39.040 The Baker. 1:21:41.720 --> 1:21:44.280 Was yo? Was it for the Blue Note album? 1:21:44.320 --> 1:21:44.400 That? 1:21:44.520 --> 1:21:44.600 Like? 1:21:44.760 --> 1:21:44.960 Never? 1:21:45.200 --> 1:21:46.240 Yes? 1:21:46.600 --> 1:21:51.920 Because yeah, she did a cover of Lately by tyree 1:21:51.920 --> 1:21:53.839 which on paper sounds insane. 1:21:54.120 --> 1:21:58.840 Wait what, bro, you never heard. 1:22:00.600 --> 1:22:05.040 Anita Baker covered Lately by Tyrese And it is fucking 1:22:05.200 --> 1:22:06.360 amazing niggas. 1:22:06.360 --> 1:22:07.400 She bodied that ship. 1:22:08.200 --> 1:22:10.200 Oh, it's like it's the only it's like one of 1:22:10.240 --> 1:22:12.000 her only so if it's still on, because you know, 1:22:12.000 --> 1:22:14.240 not none of her shit on streaming, it's like one 1:22:14.240 --> 1:22:18.200 of the only joints of hers that's like on streaming services. 1:22:19.120 --> 1:22:20.960 That came out, that song came out. 1:22:21.000 --> 1:22:24.040 That song came out, that came out. Oh my gosh, 1:22:24.080 --> 1:22:26.000 she bodied that shit. Bro I like, I was like 1:22:26.120 --> 1:22:28.880 lately she covered lately niggah. 1:22:28.960 --> 1:22:30.080 Yeah, no, I was. 1:22:30.160 --> 1:22:30.639 Uh. 1:22:30.920 --> 1:22:33.519 It happened because we were both on Blueou at the 1:22:33.520 --> 1:22:37.840 same time, and Don was was trying to hook us up, 1:22:38.720 --> 1:22:40.720 like he also hooked me out with Shaka Khan, and 1:22:40.800 --> 1:22:43.479 I was, I produced a half a record. I have 1:22:43.560 --> 1:22:46.280 four songs on Shaka. We're gonna do a whole word 1:22:46.360 --> 1:22:48.639 went in to do a whole album because he gave 1:22:48.680 --> 1:22:50.639 her Black Radio. It was like, just check this guy 1:22:50.640 --> 1:22:52.479 out to do your album because she was going to 1:22:52.520 --> 1:22:54.519 do a record with Blue Note. So she's like, oh 1:22:54.560 --> 1:22:56.040 my god, I love it. I met up with her 1:22:56.280 --> 1:22:58.679 boom boom. We went and did a week in La, 1:22:59.000 --> 1:23:01.200 did like four or five song and then her deal 1:23:01.240 --> 1:23:04.639 with Blue Note went. Some went left, so I got 1:23:04.720 --> 1:23:07.760 five songs of Shaka in my computer that I don't 1:23:07.800 --> 1:23:11.960 know ever gonna come out. But with Anita, she was 1:23:12.040 --> 1:23:15.400 working finishing that album. She was finishing it up, and 1:23:16.080 --> 1:23:18.640 I tweeted I was landing in La. I'll never forget it. 1:23:18.680 --> 1:23:21.080 I tweeted, I'm in La. Blah blah blah blah. She 1:23:21.200 --> 1:23:23.799 tweeted me, Oh, come by the studio. 1:23:23.920 --> 1:23:26.040 I was like, what. 1:23:29.280 --> 1:23:32.400 They're like, I neither. She was like, yeah, come by 1:23:32.479 --> 1:23:34.000 the studio and listen to some of the stuff I've 1:23:34.000 --> 1:23:36.439 been doing. Her son is a DJ. He goes to 1:23:36.479 --> 1:23:38.120 he at the time. He's like going to Berkeley. He's 1:23:38.120 --> 1:23:42.360 a big fan of mine. So you know that helps, 1:23:42.439 --> 1:23:45.880 you know, you know what I mean. So I went 1:23:45.880 --> 1:23:48.760 by the studio. She played me the album and she 1:23:48.840 --> 1:23:50.599 was like, what do you think? And I even fixed 1:23:50.600 --> 1:23:52.800 some stuff for keyboard parts and some stuff. She's like, 1:23:53.120 --> 1:23:56.559 you know, did some things on there. She was like, Man, 1:23:56.600 --> 1:23:57.920 if I would have known you were coming to town, 1:23:57.920 --> 1:23:59.519 I would have did a song with you. I said, 1:23:59.600 --> 1:24:02.320 don't play. I said, I write a song right now. 1:24:01.880 --> 1:24:06.000 I'm in town right now now. She was like, I mean, 1:24:06.040 --> 1:24:08.000 but I got to turn in this album in two days. 1:24:08.080 --> 1:24:08.920 I was like, I need it. 1:24:09.680 --> 1:24:14.360 Yeah, bro, Look, first of all, when I walked to 1:24:14.400 --> 1:24:16.360 the studio, she's making ribs. Let's just talk about this 1:24:16.400 --> 1:24:23.679 for a second. Black the blackness, unams. The vocal booth 1:24:24.080 --> 1:24:27.200 was next to the kitchen. It's the same studio, same studio, 1:24:27.720 --> 1:24:31.960 same studio. She did Angel in same studio. Angel all 1:24:32.000 --> 1:24:32.719 of the same. 1:24:32.560 --> 1:24:36.599 One because he's on Baver Glenn record, using that record. 1:24:36.720 --> 1:24:38.920 That's that's what that's well, back then when I did 1:24:38.920 --> 1:24:40.360 that song, that was three years ago when I did 1:24:40.360 --> 1:24:44.080 that song. When I did that, yes, so she had 1:24:44.080 --> 1:24:46.799 an oven mess and everything. You hungry, I'm making some ribs. 1:24:46.960 --> 1:24:51.960 I'm like, what ribs doesn't get you better? Anita Baker 1:24:52.000 --> 1:24:54.519 offered me ribs in the studio she did Angel. 1:24:54.840 --> 1:24:55.560 I'm good. 1:24:55.880 --> 1:24:59.320 So anyway, uh well she said that. I was like, Anita, 1:24:59.360 --> 1:25:01.400 I'm gonna write some for you right now. I lively 1:25:01.439 --> 1:25:04.439 went to the piano. I swear to god, I wrote 1:25:04.439 --> 1:25:06.080 some ship and like I live and breathe me. The 1:25:06.120 --> 1:25:09.120 Baker like, giving you the best that I got is why. 1:25:09.560 --> 1:25:11.840 That's one reason between giving you the best that I 1:25:11.920 --> 1:25:18.360 got between that my mom. 1:25:19.160 --> 1:25:22.360 Look, I mean like thrillers. 1:25:22.360 --> 1:25:27.160 So it's like, yeah, you and the fans always want 1:25:27.200 --> 1:25:30.120 to outdo someone, But I let you know that compositions 1:25:30.200 --> 1:25:30.880 is your record. 1:25:31.439 --> 1:25:34.880 That's the one man ship. That composition was a motherfuck. 1:25:34.640 --> 1:25:40.080 Look between that and and Luther Vandross albums. Matt Adley Jr. Yes, 1:25:40.200 --> 1:25:43.200 those were those sounds. Maybe want to play piano period like, 1:25:43.280 --> 1:25:44.880 because that's all we heard. I heard that in the 1:25:44.880 --> 1:25:48.160 house a lot. Anyway, I wrote the song like ten minutes. 1:25:48.600 --> 1:25:52.760 I went over Andre Harris's crib. I said, Yo, I 1:25:52.880 --> 1:25:54.280 need you to put some ship on here. As for 1:25:54.400 --> 1:25:59.799 the Baker was like cool, nigga, put drums, bass, guitar, 1:26:00.080 --> 1:26:03.120 did that in about an hour. We called Sir over. 1:26:03.240 --> 1:26:06.280 Sir came over to the crib and did his own 1:26:06.400 --> 1:26:08.960 ship and wrote the song, sang it down. We email 1:26:09.000 --> 1:26:11.080 her the song that night. She learned it that night, 1:26:12.720 --> 1:26:16.360 came to the studio, sang it down in one take, wow, 1:26:16.960 --> 1:26:19.439 and then said then said this to me. She said, 1:26:19.560 --> 1:26:22.559 only in my life three times has a song fit 1:26:22.640 --> 1:26:23.920 me like a tour address. 1:26:24.160 --> 1:26:24.880 This is the third. 1:26:26.200 --> 1:26:29.000 I didn't know what that. 1:26:28.960 --> 1:26:40.680 Ship was, all right, represent Yeah, anyway, she was like. 1:26:42.640 --> 1:26:44.880 What I was like, so so. 1:26:48.520 --> 1:26:55.320 Brother exactly that shoe popat No, not that sub but yeah, 1:26:55.320 --> 1:26:56.960 she said that. She was like, there was a thing 1:26:57.080 --> 1:26:59.559 that George Duke did for her, some kind of arrangement 1:26:59.560 --> 1:27:02.559 of something, and then I forget the other song, but 1:27:02.600 --> 1:27:05.120 she was like, this is the third She literally sung 1:27:05.160 --> 1:27:08.439 it down in one take, like. 1:27:09.479 --> 1:27:11.080 What where is it now? 1:27:11.240 --> 1:27:11.559 Yeah? 1:27:11.479 --> 1:27:12.839 Where in my computer? 1:27:13.280 --> 1:27:16.120 In that computer is talking to us on my computer 1:27:16.400 --> 1:27:16.880 talking to. 1:27:18.560 --> 1:27:19.200 Is it in that one? 1:27:19.240 --> 1:27:21.680 That computer in that computer with with email on it? 1:27:24.479 --> 1:27:30.840 Quick time? The quick time, that computer with a drum box, but. 1:27:33.880 --> 1:27:37.679 Triangle triangle every six hours with my air drop. 1:27:37.560 --> 1:27:42.760 Okay, my dream. I wanted. I'm going to hit her 1:27:42.800 --> 1:27:44.040 up because I wanted to. I want to see if 1:27:44.040 --> 1:27:45.800 I could use it for Black Radio three. That's why 1:27:45.800 --> 1:27:48.320 I yeah, yeah, I want to do it so bad. 1:27:49.000 --> 1:27:52.000 That's my hopes for George. 1:27:52.840 --> 1:27:55.400 You mentioned George. Did you if you and him before 1:27:55.400 --> 1:27:58.120 he died? Did y'all over her hook up or opened. 1:27:57.920 --> 1:28:01.920 Up for George? For like nine shows Europe? He never 1:28:02.040 --> 1:28:08.519 remembered me after any of the shows. You know, people 1:28:08.560 --> 1:28:11.080 like that, they up to the George, you know, And 1:28:11.160 --> 1:28:15.040 this was back in like I don't know, oh eight 1:28:15.160 --> 1:28:17.240 oh nine. You know, I was over like three years, 1:28:17.240 --> 1:28:19.360 so you know, I wasn't ship really, you know, so 1:28:19.840 --> 1:28:21.600 I'm not tripping because he's George dude, you know what 1:28:21.640 --> 1:28:24.599 I mean. But after each show in different cities, I'd 1:28:24.640 --> 1:28:26.439 be like, hey, hey, misster, do how you doing. Man? 1:28:26.439 --> 1:28:30.320 He'd be like hey with that face, and I'd be like, 1:28:30.640 --> 1:28:35.400 I'm a rob. I played key keys early earlier before 1:28:35.400 --> 1:28:39.840 you start, every and every every night, every night. But 1:28:39.920 --> 1:28:41.600 you know he ain't coming to the sound, you know, 1:28:41.640 --> 1:28:43.600 to the the shows before him, so you know. But 1:28:43.680 --> 1:28:45.639 then we finally got to connect in a real way 1:28:46.040 --> 1:28:48.639 at International Jazz Day, not that one I talked about, 1:28:48.680 --> 1:28:53.240 but before, and it was in Turkey and me and 1:28:53.360 --> 1:28:56.200 him and Herbie like got a chance to hang out 1:28:56.240 --> 1:28:58.080 and sit down and talk and you know what I mean, 1:28:58.160 --> 1:29:00.799 chop it up and that and that's it. In that situation, 1:29:02.000 --> 1:29:04.920 passed almost he literally passed. I'm not the pair of them, 1:29:04.960 --> 1:29:11.240 but he literally passed a few us. I say, you know, 1:29:11.439 --> 1:29:13.760 play keys. He knew play keys as far as I got. 1:29:14.000 --> 1:29:15.519 But there he passed a few a few days, a 1:29:15.520 --> 1:29:16.800 few a few months later after that. 1:29:21.320 --> 1:29:26.160 All right, so who who is the the hero? Figure that? 1:29:27.080 --> 1:29:27.200 All? 1:29:27.280 --> 1:29:28.560 Right? There you go? 1:29:29.200 --> 1:29:32.120 Are you gonna say Herbie comes somebody? 1:29:32.320 --> 1:29:34.400 Herbie was just about to ask you what is it like? 1:29:34.439 --> 1:29:36.839 Because I mean the last show I went to with yours, 1:29:37.000 --> 1:29:38.360 you did this whole thing. He was like, oh, I'm 1:29:38.360 --> 1:29:40.280 about to go take a bathroom break and he was 1:29:40.280 --> 1:29:42.000 I'm half of my feeling for me real quick, and 1:29:42.040 --> 1:29:45.519 it was Herbie Headcock and I was like, what does 1:29:45.600 --> 1:29:48.519 that feel like to be you and that relationship with 1:29:48.560 --> 1:29:48.960 that man? 1:29:49.240 --> 1:29:52.120 Man, he's so awesome and he loves to he loves 1:29:52.160 --> 1:29:54.439 to be around because he you know, he got that 1:29:54.560 --> 1:29:56.720 from Miles I think, you know, just like you know, 1:29:56.800 --> 1:29:58.840 wanting to soak up the younger energy and just be 1:29:58.960 --> 1:30:04.200 around on that even that was always him. So yeah, 1:30:04.200 --> 1:30:06.800 that's my dude, man, Like I love Herbie. He's so 1:30:07.439 --> 1:30:10.120 open and cool, and he just pulls up like he 1:30:10.200 --> 1:30:12.559 always pulls up, pulls up to the shows, pulls up 1:30:12.600 --> 1:30:14.880 to my last record. He's on my last record, fuck 1:30:14.920 --> 1:30:18.120 your feelings because I was he just heard I was 1:30:18.160 --> 1:30:22.519 in the studio and just pull it up. I was like, 1:30:22.520 --> 1:30:24.880 oh ship, you know, okay cool And he pulled up 1:30:25.120 --> 1:30:30.720 to fucking Hinson and I was like, Yo, did you 1:30:30.760 --> 1:30:35.719 hear you wanna? No? No, no, no, you know, just speaking 1:30:35.760 --> 1:30:38.880 to your point me and Herbie talked maybe two three 1:30:38.920 --> 1:30:41.599 weeks ago. He said, this is the longest time he's 1:30:41.600 --> 1:30:45.720 ever gone without touching his piano. Oh wow, he said. 1:30:45.720 --> 1:30:47.439 He's in the same funk. He was like, man, I'm 1:30:47.439 --> 1:30:47.920 not even that. 1:30:47.960 --> 1:30:50.080 I don't feel like, you know, He's like, I've never 1:30:50.160 --> 1:30:54.080 gone seven months or wherever long it's been when I'm 1:30:54.120 --> 1:30:57.040 touching my piano. He's like, it's just sitting there. He's like, 1:30:57.080 --> 1:30:58.920 he's just it's just sitting there, you know. 1:31:00.360 --> 1:31:04.360 You know, so you gotta take a break, you gotta 1:31:04.400 --> 1:31:06.680 you gotta take a break and then come back to it. 1:31:07.439 --> 1:31:10.320 I was gonna ask, I think it's different for keyboard 1:31:10.320 --> 1:31:13.880 players now because of the the the advanced way that 1:31:13.920 --> 1:31:19.160 technology moves in your world, Whereas at least with me personally, 1:31:19.240 --> 1:31:24.440 like I'm not too interested in you know, like new drums, 1:31:24.479 --> 1:31:26.559 and you know, the company always be like, you know, 1:31:26.640 --> 1:31:30.200 these are special trees that we used in Japan to 1:31:30.240 --> 1:31:32.000 make it, you know, And I always tell them like, 1:31:32.000 --> 1:31:35.200 give me the trashy the high school set. 1:31:35.479 --> 1:31:37.879 It's all in your touch anyway. It's all your touch anyway. 1:31:38.160 --> 1:31:42.280 Right, So as far as being a are you a 1:31:42.640 --> 1:31:50.200 gear head or are you just using the same. 1:31:50.400 --> 1:31:52.280 I am not, you know what, because when people were 1:31:52.280 --> 1:31:55.760 doing gear ship, I was just practicing on being really 1:31:55.800 --> 1:31:58.760 good at the piano, you know what I'm saying. I've 1:31:58.800 --> 1:32:02.559 never because my whole thing was always acoustic piano. So 1:32:03.200 --> 1:32:06.320 that's been my thing for such a long time. Even 1:32:06.320 --> 1:32:09.120 when I got signed a Blue Note piano trio, shit 1:32:09.720 --> 1:32:12.080 acoustic piano. It wasn't even keyboards. Yeah, I wasn't even 1:32:12.160 --> 1:32:15.240 using keyboards for a while. They're putting piano acoustic pianos 1:32:15.280 --> 1:32:17.080 and clubs for me because I didn't want to play 1:32:17.120 --> 1:32:20.160 jazz clubs anymore. I want to play cool shit hip 1:32:20.200 --> 1:32:22.320 hop venues and shit like that. And I was trying 1:32:22.320 --> 1:32:24.720 to get grand pianos in there. So Stein would put 1:32:24.760 --> 1:32:26.439 pianos in there for me and shit, but a lot 1:32:26.479 --> 1:32:28.679 of times that sound would be fucked up. It wouldn't 1:32:28.720 --> 1:32:30.080 sound good, you know what I mean. And so I 1:32:30.640 --> 1:32:32.080 was like, Okay, let me get the key let me 1:32:32.160 --> 1:32:35.040 do the keyboard thing. But I've never really been a 1:32:35.080 --> 1:32:38.240 gearhead at all. People think I am for some reason, 1:32:38.520 --> 1:32:40.120 but to me. 1:32:40.080 --> 1:32:42.599 It always seemed like I think that's the gearhead thing 1:32:42.680 --> 1:32:45.200 is more so for people who think of themselves as 1:32:45.240 --> 1:32:48.519 producers first or right, you always kind of seem like. 1:32:48.880 --> 1:32:50.600 A player, you know, primarily. 1:32:51.080 --> 1:32:53.200 Yeah, I'm like, know, we need strings. I know a 1:32:53.200 --> 1:32:55.280 string player that can do that, like we did when 1:32:55.280 --> 1:32:59.479 we fucking did the twice. You know, AMR wasn't like 1:32:59.560 --> 1:33:03.519 Gil pull the string sounds. He called some cellos and violence, 1:33:03.680 --> 1:33:05.439 you know what I mean. We know those guys. We 1:33:05.439 --> 1:33:08.800 don't need the patch. I know them. I'm always that, 1:33:09.040 --> 1:33:10.640 you know, and all the patches they're like, but it 1:33:10.680 --> 1:33:13.200 sounds real. This one sounds realer than that one. I'm like, 1:33:13.320 --> 1:33:16.400 I know, real people, real people, Yeah, I know. 1:33:17.280 --> 1:33:24.960 I would imagine, now, keep a musician's employed. That's dope. 1:33:25.400 --> 1:33:28.560 Yeah. And obviously obviously you got to tap into it 1:33:28.600 --> 1:33:32.600 a little bit because you can't just get musicians like 1:33:32.680 --> 1:33:35.519 this anymore, especially now. So that's why now I've been 1:33:35.600 --> 1:33:39.160 even tappingto it, tapping into just sounds and getting all 1:33:39.160 --> 1:33:41.680 the plug ins and stuff like that, even even if 1:33:41.720 --> 1:33:44.439 it's for demo demo's sake, you know what I mean, 1:33:44.520 --> 1:33:47.560 I'll do stuff like that. But I'm just such a 1:33:47.600 --> 1:33:50.400 live person. That's just my thing, you know. 1:33:50.520 --> 1:33:53.719 I would imagine, like, you know, I'll say, like maybe 1:33:54.040 --> 1:33:57.760 what Steve, like once every four months the rolling guy 1:33:57.800 --> 1:33:59.320 comes in with you toys. 1:33:58.960 --> 1:34:02.000 And whatnot, and we're like, oh. 1:34:01.880 --> 1:34:05.160 This is like Christmas all over again. Like I'm certain 1:34:05.240 --> 1:34:10.000 that every keyboard maker from Yamaha, Toro, like all these 1:34:10.040 --> 1:34:15.320 guys are like I was off to you try our product. 1:34:15.320 --> 1:34:17.639 Well here here's the thing though. I was on Yamaha 1:34:17.760 --> 1:34:20.920 for a long time, but there wasn't giving me that 1:34:20.960 --> 1:34:26.240 love you were talking about. I was like, hey, yeah, yeah, 1:34:26.240 --> 1:34:29.439 because I'm like, yo, why am I having to call 1:34:29.560 --> 1:34:33.240 the MD for Alicia Keys to get to the head 1:34:33.280 --> 1:34:36.519 of Yamaha Keyboards. I'm actually a keyboard player, but I 1:34:36.560 --> 1:34:38.960 have R and B, Grammys and hip. I'm Grammys and ship. 1:34:39.280 --> 1:34:42.160 I'm here. Hey, this works for you guys, you know. 1:34:42.680 --> 1:34:46.519 But the mds of the people get those people get 1:34:46.560 --> 1:34:48.719 those looks, and I'm like, yo, but I'm an actual 1:34:48.760 --> 1:34:50.960 panel player, like you know what I mean, Like I 1:34:50.960 --> 1:34:53.439 should get those looks, and I wasn't getting them. So 1:34:53.520 --> 1:34:57.080 I left and and like you said before, everybody else 1:34:57.200 --> 1:34:59.360 is like yo, for for years wanted to me. So 1:34:59.400 --> 1:35:02.559 I'm on Core now, you know, and they treat me 1:35:02.640 --> 1:35:05.240 they're great. I have to stop them from giving me shit. 1:35:05.240 --> 1:35:09.439 You're right, I do. Yeah, how many. 1:35:09.600 --> 1:35:13.680 Well, the thing is is that when keyboards are manufactured 1:35:13.840 --> 1:35:17.080 and they put all those patches inside of one thing, like, 1:35:17.200 --> 1:35:19.920 does it matter how much product they make? Like, isn't 1:35:19.920 --> 1:35:21.440 it just the same version. 1:35:21.200 --> 1:35:26.960 Of basically, But for me, what interested me in keyboards 1:35:26.960 --> 1:35:30.120 initially too was because I started needing to use a 1:35:30.160 --> 1:35:32.719 keyboard on the road when I was playing my shows, 1:35:32.720 --> 1:35:36.120 and I needed something that felt good, that felt close 1:35:36.160 --> 1:35:39.400 to a piano as possible, and that sounded as close 1:35:39.439 --> 1:35:41.599 to a piano as possible. So that's when I became 1:35:41.680 --> 1:35:46.040 interested in plugins and interested in different keyboards because you know, 1:35:46.120 --> 1:35:48.200 but so the one I have now, the one I 1:35:48.320 --> 1:35:53.120 use now, the Chronos, feels the best when it comes 1:35:53.160 --> 1:35:55.479 to me having to get around like that, you know 1:35:55.520 --> 1:35:57.680 what I mean, like really get around. So for me, 1:35:57.760 --> 1:36:01.040 it was always that what felt the best because at 1:36:01.080 --> 1:36:03.599 my shows, yeah, I use a piano and I always 1:36:03.640 --> 1:36:06.840 have offender roads and then I have something on top, 1:36:07.240 --> 1:36:09.400 you know, some kind of like I have a smaller 1:36:09.439 --> 1:36:11.760 Crogos on top for my extra little sounds here and now. 1:36:11.960 --> 1:36:13.840 For for years I didn't have to do a lot 1:36:13.880 --> 1:36:15.840 of sounds because I had Casey Benjamin, he had a 1:36:15.840 --> 1:36:16.559 million sounds, and this. 1:36:16.600 --> 1:36:20.439 Ship right right right, Yeah, I remember we did that 1:36:20.520 --> 1:36:25.240 gig at that sound was a rouge ago and he 1:36:25.280 --> 1:36:27.559 was I think you were playing you were you playing 1:36:27.560 --> 1:36:30.320 the lead, the door, lead, the red Yeah. 1:36:30.200 --> 1:36:32.120 I think we were playing that night and Casey had 1:36:32.400 --> 1:36:33.719 yeah all the million. 1:36:33.800 --> 1:36:36.280 Yeah. Yeah, I'm not. I'm just not. I'm not really 1:36:36.280 --> 1:36:39.559 interested in a lot of sounds. I like piano, I 1:36:39.640 --> 1:36:42.960 like roads, like a few leads and a pad every 1:36:42.960 --> 1:36:44.320 now and then. But I like to you know, I 1:36:44.360 --> 1:36:46.400 know those guys who are great at those sounds, and 1:36:46.400 --> 1:36:49.360 I even hire those guys to come do sounds. Hey, 1:36:49.439 --> 1:36:51.640 you want to make some sounds, you do that. It 1:36:51.640 --> 1:36:53.519 freezes me up. It frees me up to just do 1:36:53.560 --> 1:36:54.080 what I want to do. 1:36:54.439 --> 1:36:56.200 You know, Hey, I was just gonna ask you about 1:36:56.400 --> 1:37:00.439 the Miles project that I was like honored fucking be on, 1:37:00.720 --> 1:37:04.360 like to log into my ass cap and see a 1:37:04.400 --> 1:37:07.040 song and it's fun take ovid Miles Davis, like nigga, 1:37:07.080 --> 1:37:09.800 what you know what I'm saying, like for like for real, 1:37:09.880 --> 1:37:12.200 for real, like so yeah, I mean I've told you 1:37:12.200 --> 1:37:13.000 this a billion times. 1:37:13.040 --> 1:37:14.240 I just want to say, in front of myody brother, 1:37:14.280 --> 1:37:15.040 thank you so much. 1:37:15.080 --> 1:37:16.639 For sure, for sure. 1:37:16.800 --> 1:37:19.040 But but Noah, Man, I wanted to ask you, like, 1:37:19.160 --> 1:37:21.960 so when they give you just carte blanche and say 1:37:21.960 --> 1:37:27.160 all right, do whatever, how I guess how much of 1:37:27.200 --> 1:37:31.280 an undertaking is that and how involved is his family 1:37:31.360 --> 1:37:33.799 in that? And you know kind of you know, making 1:37:33.800 --> 1:37:36.559 sure that you know that ship has done tastefully or whatever, 1:37:36.920 --> 1:37:38.160 Like what was that process? 1:37:38.240 --> 1:37:41.360 Like, man, just doing that everything album? It Actually it 1:37:41.479 --> 1:37:42.320 was a nephew. 1:37:42.080 --> 1:37:45.280 Right, yeah, it was Vince, his nephew. 1:37:45.680 --> 1:37:48.160 And I've been on Vince for years and he's always 1:37:48.200 --> 1:37:50.640 he's fan of the music, and he you know, he 1:37:50.760 --> 1:37:53.880 knows that I'm I shadow a lot of what Miles 1:37:53.880 --> 1:37:55.880 already did and I and I think like that and 1:37:55.880 --> 1:37:58.400 I look see what you know. So he hit me 1:37:58.479 --> 1:38:00.840 up about it. First, I was doing the score for 1:38:00.880 --> 1:38:03.880 the movie. I was in the middle of that John 1:38:04.600 --> 1:38:06.719 OUs Ahead. I was already in the middle of the movie. 1:38:06.880 --> 1:38:10.080 And then Sony hit me up about doing that doing 1:38:10.120 --> 1:38:12.400 the because it was about to be his ninetieth birthday 1:38:12.520 --> 1:38:14.920 or something. I think at that time it's going to 1:38:14.960 --> 1:38:16.479 be his ninetieth birthday. And they were like, we want 1:38:16.520 --> 1:38:18.760 to do a remix album, blah blah, and I was like, 1:38:19.040 --> 1:38:20.880 I'll only do it if it's I don't want to 1:38:20.880 --> 1:38:23.000 do a remix album, Like I'm not interested in putting 1:38:23.000 --> 1:38:25.639 some Miles trumpets over hip hop, you know what I mean? 1:38:25.720 --> 1:38:27.320 Like that's been done. I want to do that. 1:38:27.520 --> 1:38:28.840 I said, the only way I'll do it is if 1:38:28.840 --> 1:38:31.160 you let me in the vault and let me take 1:38:31.200 --> 1:38:36.200 what I want. And they were like, okay, So they 1:38:36.240 --> 1:38:42.320 gave me eight hours. I was in the vault eight 1:38:42.360 --> 1:38:43.240 hours of the vault. 1:38:43.520 --> 1:38:45.280 Well, I thought you been eight hours to do the album. 1:38:45.320 --> 1:38:47.400 I was like, God, damn, no, no, no, they gave 1:38:47.400 --> 1:38:49.559 me eight hours of the vault. 1:38:50.439 --> 1:38:53.679 That's way too little, way too little. 1:38:53.960 --> 1:38:56.840 I took as much as I possibly could in that 1:38:56.920 --> 1:38:58.280 time because they didn't want to let me in the 1:38:58.320 --> 1:39:00.800 vault originally, you know what I'm saying. But it was 1:39:00.840 --> 1:39:03.200 like a back and forth from my people there people, 1:39:03.200 --> 1:39:05.880 and then they finally like, okay, we'll give you eight hours. 1:39:06.040 --> 1:39:09.599 You know how much unreleased Miles was in there. I 1:39:09.640 --> 1:39:11.439 have a lot of ship. 1:39:13.040 --> 1:39:14.120 What were they what? 1:39:14.120 --> 1:39:16.720 What what were you taking? 1:39:16.920 --> 1:39:17.080 Right? 1:39:17.800 --> 1:39:21.760 How you doing? 1:39:22.680 --> 1:39:23.360 Well? What? 1:39:23.360 --> 1:39:27.320 What what were you taking m P three's tapes talking about. 1:39:27.160 --> 1:39:28.719 No just P three ship? 1:39:28.800 --> 1:39:29.000 Yeah? 1:39:29.160 --> 1:39:29.439 I did. 1:39:29.600 --> 1:39:31.640 I brought my hard driving and they were just like, 1:39:32.200 --> 1:39:33.559 take what you want? What do you want to pull up? 1:39:33.560 --> 1:39:33.640 Now? 1:39:33.680 --> 1:39:34.680 What iut gonna pull up now? 1:39:34.720 --> 1:39:40.040 But uh, you know some digitized and some stuff was 1:39:40.080 --> 1:39:41.880 to track what you can't do much with. But then 1:39:41.920 --> 1:39:48.400 they had ship that was like eight tracks and cursing out. 1:39:49.840 --> 1:39:51.760 I got so much. I got yeah, I got that 1:39:51.840 --> 1:39:56.360 got him. I got him talking ship, cussing out talking 1:39:56.400 --> 1:39:57.800 to Ron Carter when he was trying to learn from 1:39:57.800 --> 1:39:58.519 them jazz dance. 1:40:00.080 --> 1:40:02.840 Wait, I wait, did I share this previously? 1:40:03.040 --> 1:40:07.000 On another I found out something that I don't think 1:40:07.000 --> 1:40:11.320 the jazz world is aware of. I was recently told 1:40:11.360 --> 1:40:13.680 by a lot of jazz I had to ask at 1:40:13.800 --> 1:40:18.800 least six of them. I did not realize that Ron 1:40:18.880 --> 1:40:25.719 Carter does not know how to solo good. So someone 1:40:25.800 --> 1:40:30.960 someone brought this up to me when I was asking my, my, my, other, 1:40:31.160 --> 1:40:35.679 my older jazz heads about stuff. And to them, they're 1:40:35.800 --> 1:40:40.480 baffled that one of the most iconic hip hop samples 1:40:41.040 --> 1:40:47.040 and they're referencing the McCoy teimer sample for the choices 1:40:47.120 --> 1:40:51.920 yours with Ron Carter, and Ron Carter is on base 1:40:52.040 --> 1:40:55.360 doing that, and I guess the the whole thing is 1:40:55.400 --> 1:41:02.080 that they're laughing at the irony that the world's worst soloist, 1:41:03.320 --> 1:41:06.519 and I was like, blasphemy. Right now, They're like no, no, no, no, no, 1:41:07.080 --> 1:41:10.519 Ron's a perfect foundation for music. But if you notice 1:41:10.920 --> 1:41:13.760 he Miles never gave him a solo on any of 1:41:13.840 --> 1:41:16.240 his records. And I was like, I don't believe his ship. 1:41:16.760 --> 1:41:18.960 And then I went back and for a whole month 1:41:19.040 --> 1:41:22.320 listened to every Miles Davis. 1:41:22.840 --> 1:41:23.840 Couldn't find one. 1:41:24.280 --> 1:41:27.240 If there's anything, it was just walking so low. If 1:41:27.280 --> 1:41:30.599 there was one, it was just was one like there was. 1:41:31.240 --> 1:41:34.920 He was there just ass foundations, I exactly. And then 1:41:34.920 --> 1:41:36.439 when I was like, wait a minute, why is that so? 1:41:36.560 --> 1:41:39.120 Because Ron Carter is just like he's like, no, this 1:41:39.200 --> 1:41:42.000 is y'all fault is that's tribe fault y'all. 1:41:42.040 --> 1:41:43.519 May y'all may be. 1:41:43.680 --> 1:41:49.439 Worst music shit Miles Davids arsenal King, And I'm like, 1:41:49.479 --> 1:41:53.360 this is blasphemy. But I didn't realize, like how do 1:41:53.400 --> 1:41:57.479 you judge? Maybe I don't know, Like, yeah, how do 1:41:57.520 --> 1:41:59.080 you know if a cat is real or not? 1:42:00.920 --> 1:42:03.479 Well, that's it depends on the instrument, because the reality 1:42:03.560 --> 1:42:07.120 is no, most people don't want to hear bas solo anyway. 1:42:07.200 --> 1:42:11.559 Thank you, Thank you, Christian McBride. You went to school 1:42:11.560 --> 1:42:13.680 with the most incredible bass soloist in the history of 1:42:13.760 --> 1:42:16.360 jazz music, so you have a different outlook on it. 1:42:16.439 --> 1:42:17.720 But most people don't want to hear. 1:42:18.520 --> 1:42:20.160 That's when you go to the bathroom man. 1:42:20.080 --> 1:42:22.200 All that that's the joke. 1:42:22.680 --> 1:42:27.240 Yeah, No, I now I believe that Chris is I 1:42:27.280 --> 1:42:31.120 mean next a mingus Like I feel like Chris is 1:42:31.160 --> 1:42:32.360 the god of jazz bass. 1:42:32.360 --> 1:42:33.960 So maybe I am sported. 1:42:33.640 --> 1:42:37.360 But period, there has no never been a soloist like 1:42:37.439 --> 1:42:40.280 Christian McBride. That's not even that's not even up for debate. 1:42:40.640 --> 1:42:43.400 There's not one person that's even close to it. Jazz 1:42:43.439 --> 1:42:46.240 based soloists like McBride is. No one gets around like that. 1:42:46.400 --> 1:42:46.880 It's true. 1:42:47.680 --> 1:42:50.960 No bass player makes other instruments scared to play after them, 1:42:51.000 --> 1:42:55.520 except Christian McBride when they solo. I've had this conversation 1:42:55.680 --> 1:42:59.240 with all everybody. He's the only bass player that when 1:42:59.240 --> 1:43:01.320 he solos, you're like, what a what am I going 1:43:01.400 --> 1:43:04.280 to play? You know what I'm saying? Like most based 1:43:04.560 --> 1:43:07.559 most basics stay in their base range and they don't 1:43:07.560 --> 1:43:09.840 have much vocabulary. Because you don't you don't get to 1:43:09.880 --> 1:43:11.240 work out as much, you don't get to sol us 1:43:11.280 --> 1:43:13.519 much you have the one based solo in a set 1:43:13.800 --> 1:43:15.479 at best, you know what I'm saying. 1:43:15.600 --> 1:43:17.000 But everybody else, that's what you do. 1:43:17.320 --> 1:43:21.160 Your job is just so without you, without you throwing 1:43:21.560 --> 1:43:25.760 your contemporaries under or your idols under. Yeah, but I 1:43:26.080 --> 1:43:28.960 always wanted like and this is where because comedians have 1:43:29.000 --> 1:43:33.240 a whole nother standard. I I guess I have a 1:43:34.720 --> 1:43:39.720 you know, like when I criticize Kanye's patches, yeah, you know, 1:43:39.760 --> 1:43:42.639 his drum patches or whatever. And even Kanye him something 1:43:43.000 --> 1:43:54.040 now I feel like he'll tell you, but it's just like, 1:43:54.439 --> 1:43:57.360 you know, I hear people just dismiss it as like, 1:43:57.439 --> 1:43:59.559 oh you have like dog with sole ears, like you 1:43:59.560 --> 1:44:01.960 hear something that we can't hear. But right, you know, 1:44:03.120 --> 1:44:05.280 when I hear a producer, I could tell like based 1:44:05.320 --> 1:44:08.759 on their you know, the way that they chop their 1:44:08.880 --> 1:44:11.519 their patches and what they use and their arrangement and 1:44:11.560 --> 1:44:14.479 their tone and all that stuff. You know, stuff that 1:44:14.520 --> 1:44:16.519 I can hear that the average person can't hear. 1:44:16.640 --> 1:44:18.559 But yeah, how do you know? 1:44:19.680 --> 1:44:23.120 Like my dad would know how good a musician was 1:44:23.200 --> 1:44:26.599 based on how they play ballad. He makes them play 1:44:26.640 --> 1:44:30.280 a ballot and he's like I can instantly tell who 1:44:30.439 --> 1:44:32.639 is good and who's not good when you play, when 1:44:32.680 --> 1:44:34.360 you give them the easiest shit in the world to 1:44:34.400 --> 1:44:36.840 play and they fall apart in front of me. 1:44:37.080 --> 1:44:41.240 So what d Yeah, no, that's a good one too. 1:44:41.439 --> 1:44:43.200 Especially as the piano player. When you play a ballad, 1:44:43.439 --> 1:44:46.120 you're exposed because now it's it's really about your touch 1:44:46.720 --> 1:44:49.439 and there's the space there. So what how much knowledge 1:44:49.479 --> 1:44:51.120 do you have to fill up that space? What? What 1:44:51.160 --> 1:44:52.720 can you do to fill up that space? A lot 1:44:52.760 --> 1:44:55.240 of people feel and be tasteful about it. A lot 1:44:55.280 --> 1:44:58.240 of people feel like, especially piano players, they feel like 1:44:58.280 --> 1:45:00.920 when I go to shit like or stuff like that, 1:45:01.080 --> 1:45:03.640 a million piano players, everybody's trying to play. 1:45:04.320 --> 1:45:04.840 I went one. 1:45:04.920 --> 1:45:06.800 I went twice in my life. I had to go 1:45:06.800 --> 1:45:09.600 over the last. I did a thing for Corey just 1:45:09.720 --> 1:45:13.840 read recently. I did a show there for Corey And 1:45:14.160 --> 1:45:19.599 so dude, it's yeah, you already know anyway. Yeah, everybody 1:45:19.640 --> 1:45:21.840 wants to play the fastest thing they possibly can, giant 1:45:21.880 --> 1:45:23.479 steps or some shit like that. And then when you 1:45:23.479 --> 1:45:25.800 play fast, you don't have to have touch, not about touch, 1:45:25.920 --> 1:45:27.960 not about this, not about that, and it goes by 1:45:28.040 --> 1:45:30.520 so fast and not paying attention. But with piano players, 1:45:30.760 --> 1:45:32.439 you can, like I can sit down, I can see 1:45:32.439 --> 1:45:35.439 a piano player sit down, and in five seconds I 1:45:35.439 --> 1:45:37.800 can know what I'm about to hear. Sometimes I can 1:45:37.840 --> 1:45:40.080 do it just by your posture and what you while 1:45:40.120 --> 1:45:43.000 you hold your hands. A lot of times I can tell, okay, 1:45:43.280 --> 1:45:45.719 you actually don't play jazz. You have to play church organ, 1:45:46.520 --> 1:45:50.920 but you're playing piano today. Like for instance, you see 1:45:50.960 --> 1:45:53.400 me play organ, you think I don't play keys because 1:45:53.439 --> 1:45:57.280 I suck at orgon. I know. I know Chedrick Mitchell 1:45:57.280 --> 1:45:59.639 and Krey Henry and James Poison, these kinds of cat 1:46:00.120 --> 1:46:00.840 not an organ player. 1:46:01.200 --> 1:46:03.320 There's a difference in the technique. 1:46:04.400 --> 1:46:07.960 It's a different so that Corey does like that, you 1:46:07.960 --> 1:46:09.640 would have to practice a lot to get to that 1:46:09.720 --> 1:46:10.599 one hundred. 1:46:11.439 --> 1:46:14.719 When he plays chords not lines, is different, Like lines 1:46:14.880 --> 1:46:16.759 on organ are easy because the key is the plastic 1:46:16.800 --> 1:46:19.280 and there's no weight. A real piano has weights, So 1:46:19.400 --> 1:46:21.680 you can when you can tell somebody's real chops when 1:46:21.680 --> 1:46:23.479 to play a piano because that's when the weight's there, 1:46:23.800 --> 1:46:27.479 you know what I mean. Yeah, if you're slow on organ, 1:46:27.520 --> 1:46:30.840 you're I can't help you because it's a plastic key. 1:46:30.840 --> 1:46:32.599 You just supposed to be fast, you know what I mean. 1:46:33.040 --> 1:46:36.280 But Corey, Yeah, any organ player that's really good moving 1:46:36.280 --> 1:46:38.920 from chord to chord, it's a fucking spider technique. Like 1:46:39.160 --> 1:46:41.960 everything has to be connected, and you voice things different 1:46:42.120 --> 1:46:45.080 because you're used to having bass pedals, So your voicings 1:46:45.160 --> 1:46:47.080 up here are different. Piano players, are you not used 1:46:47.120 --> 1:46:49.000 to having bass pedals? We have to play base here, 1:46:49.200 --> 1:46:52.240 so our voicings are different to make it full, because 1:46:52.280 --> 1:46:54.880 we have to make it full here. Organ players have 1:46:54.920 --> 1:46:57.840 the pedals, so they're the just there the cord. The 1:46:57.840 --> 1:46:59.679 structure of the chord is still to be like what 1:46:59.720 --> 1:47:03.000 the hell hell you know, so immediately you could tell 1:47:03.560 --> 1:47:06.000 what that somebody plays by like sitting sitting down, you 1:47:06.040 --> 1:47:08.360 know what I mean. And yeah, and the vocabulary is 1:47:08.400 --> 1:47:09.920 super easy to tell immediately. 1:47:10.439 --> 1:47:13.400 You know that roads players is another thing too, like 1:47:13.479 --> 1:47:17.720 I know, like yeah, that's a whole other thing, like yeah, roses. 1:47:17.720 --> 1:47:20.200 Yeah yeah, everybody that plays piano can't play roles and 1:47:20.280 --> 1:47:23.960 vice versa, and like all those the different touches and 1:47:24.000 --> 1:47:25.479 different vibes and like. 1:47:25.600 --> 1:47:30.360 One, so what's your accordion game? Like I'm crazy on accordion. 1:47:30.680 --> 1:47:36.760 I'm crazy on the Courdon talking about I do know 1:47:36.840 --> 1:47:39.040 one that's amazing though. I used to see him with 1:47:39.080 --> 1:47:41.360 Jeff Tay Watts on Monday Nights at the Z Bar 1:47:41.640 --> 1:47:47.880 years ago, really Accordion and and tag. He was smashing 1:47:47.960 --> 1:47:50.920 bro Wait a minute for the guy. How how does 1:47:50.920 --> 1:47:53.479 it feel to be the person that got Malcolm Jamal 1:47:53.600 --> 1:47:55.200 Warner his first gram? 1:48:00.160 --> 1:48:00.320 Wrong? 1:48:00.880 --> 1:48:01.160 Funny? 1:48:01.760 --> 1:48:02.840 You know what's crazy about that? 1:48:02.880 --> 1:48:04.719 Though? That wasn't supposed to have most of my stuff 1:48:04.760 --> 1:48:07.000 on black Radio. I'll tell you everybody all the time. 1:48:07.000 --> 1:48:09.800 It's like, whenever I make an album, the universe is 1:48:09.840 --> 1:48:12.800 always a co producer because it never goes how I 1:48:12.840 --> 1:48:14.720 wanted to go all the way and I know that. 1:48:15.400 --> 1:48:17.120 I know that going in and I'm okay with it 1:48:17.120 --> 1:48:20.960 because great things, better things have happened because the universe 1:48:21.040 --> 1:48:22.880 is like, look, nigga, this is what's gonna happen. So 1:48:23.240 --> 1:48:25.360 she'll the fuck this is can't do shit about it. 1:48:25.720 --> 1:48:29.639 So when I did the Song of Jesus Chows of America, 1:48:29.720 --> 1:48:33.320 it was it was and and and old to the 1:48:33.400 --> 1:48:36.960 children of the Sandy Hub tragedy. That morning of the 1:48:37.040 --> 1:48:40.280 actual tragedy. I was doing it Stevie tribute. I believe 1:48:40.880 --> 1:48:42.400 I'm me or you came and sat in. Was it 1:48:42.520 --> 1:48:44.920 that that day or the next day. We did two 1:48:45.000 --> 1:48:48.200 nights at Harlem stage of a Stevie Wonder tribute. 1:48:48.400 --> 1:48:52.040 Damn man, I need you around just to remind me 1:48:52.080 --> 1:48:55.240 of shit. Yes, yes, yes, and you can and I'm here. 1:48:55.360 --> 1:48:55.760 Came by. 1:48:55.880 --> 1:48:58.519 It might have been so two nights. The first night 1:48:58.920 --> 1:49:02.120 was of that day that the TRACTI happened another night 1:49:02.160 --> 1:49:03.679 and you came one of those nights. I can't remember 1:49:03.680 --> 1:49:06.200 which one. And that was my first time doing that 1:49:06.320 --> 1:49:10.639 arrangement of Jesus Children of America with Leila for for 1:49:11.040 --> 1:49:13.719 for them. And there was that that day when that happened. 1:49:13.760 --> 1:49:16.320 I woke up and my good friend Jimmy, Jimmy Green, 1:49:16.800 --> 1:49:20.120 his daughter was killed in that. Oh wow, Jimmy was 1:49:20.160 --> 1:49:21.720 the first Jimmy. 1:49:21.600 --> 1:49:24.519 She was the first grade a few times. Yeah, she 1:49:24.600 --> 1:49:25.400 was the first grade. 1:49:25.960 --> 1:49:27.920 And so that fucked me up because I have at 1:49:27.920 --> 1:49:29.640 this point, I have a son, you know what I mean. 1:49:29.720 --> 1:49:32.120 It's like, oh, ship, she hits you hardly when you 1:49:32.160 --> 1:49:34.479 have kids. Things that happened with kids. If you don't 1:49:34.479 --> 1:49:36.280 have kids, it's one thing. When once you have a kid, 1:49:36.360 --> 1:49:39.800 it's whole. No, I can't even watch movies the same. 1:49:40.320 --> 1:49:42.360 You know, when you have a kid, everything different like 1:49:42.360 --> 1:49:46.240 oh ship. So anyway, fast forward, when Black Radio Time 1:49:46.280 --> 1:49:48.280 came around, I told Laila, hey, I want to do 1:49:48.400 --> 1:49:50.880 Jesus Chris in America. You know, She's like okay. She 1:49:51.000 --> 1:49:53.960 came in and as usual as she did for the 1:49:54.040 --> 1:50:00.200 shady song, mhm cherish today was one take. He was 1:50:00.200 --> 1:50:02.960 reading the lyrics on her phone. It was actually it 1:50:03.000 --> 1:50:06.599 was the sound check she was right beforehand. She said, 1:50:06.760 --> 1:50:09.120 mike check one two, Mike check one too. That's why 1:50:09.120 --> 1:50:11.320 I faded it in because right before that she was 1:50:11.400 --> 1:50:14.080 checking the mic and that take you here is the 1:50:14.120 --> 1:50:16.759 sound check. So when she finished, she was like, okay, 1:50:16.920 --> 1:50:18.400 I'm ready. I was like, thanks, we're good. 1:50:18.479 --> 1:50:20.000 No, that was it. That was it. 1:50:21.000 --> 1:50:22.960 She had the same thing for Judis CH's America Jesus 1:50:23.000 --> 1:50:25.599 Chosen in America. She came in, did that shit one time, 1:50:25.840 --> 1:50:29.200 one take. I don't have bonus tracks of Layla. I 1:50:29.240 --> 1:50:31.320 don't have bonus shit of Layla because she just doesn't 1:50:31.320 --> 1:50:32.960 want to take it. I'm good. I'm like, I'm good. 1:50:33.479 --> 1:50:36.000 And anyway, we did the song, and in my mind 1:50:36.120 --> 1:50:38.320 I was going to get Jimmy Green to do a 1:50:38.400 --> 1:50:41.840 poem for his daughter in that song, you know, in 1:50:41.960 --> 1:50:44.880 the actual song. And so I was reaching out to 1:50:45.000 --> 1:50:47.080 him and you know, trying to see if you want 1:50:47.160 --> 1:50:48.880 to do it. And my other friend who was really 1:50:48.920 --> 1:50:51.320 close to the otis, was like, man, this is not 1:50:51.439 --> 1:50:53.280 a good time for Jimmy, you know, blah blah blah. 1:50:53.360 --> 1:50:56.280 So he couldn't do it. Malcolm had hit me and like, yo, 1:50:56.280 --> 1:50:57.880 I want to come hang out at the studio next 1:50:57.920 --> 1:50:59.320 time you're the studio. So I hit Matholm like, yo, 1:50:59.400 --> 1:51:02.000 we'll come hang out the I'm doing something mixes of 1:51:02.040 --> 1:51:06.080 songs blah blah blah, and we started mixing Jesus in 1:51:06.120 --> 1:51:08.000 America and I told him. I was like, I was 1:51:08.040 --> 1:51:09.639 trying to get a poem on here. He was like, dude, 1:51:09.640 --> 1:51:10.800 you I'm anna poet right. 1:51:11.439 --> 1:51:14.160 I was like, I forgot about that. 1:51:14.880 --> 1:51:17.120 He was like, he was like, bro, give me a 1:51:17.240 --> 1:51:19.200 stab at it. I'm gonna go. I'll go write something 1:51:19.280 --> 1:51:20.800 right now. Give me a stab. You don't have to 1:51:20.880 --> 1:51:23.120 use it if you don't want it. He went to 1:51:23.240 --> 1:51:25.920 the we're in We're in Westlake and he went upstairs, 1:51:26.760 --> 1:51:30.080 took it like an hour, wrote it, came down, spit it, 1:51:30.840 --> 1:51:35.479 and then that was it that was it surprised Yeah, bro, yeah, bro. 1:51:35.800 --> 1:51:37.479 But a lot of those things were black Radio. That's 1:51:37.520 --> 1:51:40.799 how black Radio actually album. The actual album. I canceled 1:51:40.840 --> 1:51:43.000 it like four times because it was too hard to make, 1:51:43.320 --> 1:51:46.920 because nobody's schedule was lining up. So I literally said 1:51:47.200 --> 1:51:49.519 fuck it, we'll do it next year or some shit 1:51:49.640 --> 1:51:52.280 four times, and then out of the blue, my manager 1:51:52.400 --> 1:51:54.479 hit me, I was on tour. I was on tour 1:51:54.560 --> 1:51:56.519 with my band, and my manager hit me like, I 1:51:56.560 --> 1:51:59.680 don't know what happened, but every guest is available next 1:51:59.720 --> 1:52:01.360 week in l A. 1:52:02.320 --> 1:52:05.160 And this is red one or two one one one 1:52:05.800 --> 1:52:06.160 in l A. 1:52:06.280 --> 1:52:09.639 Everybody's available. Yeah. 1:52:09.800 --> 1:52:12.720 I was like, oh, ship, So yeah, it might have been. 1:52:12.760 --> 1:52:14.360 It might have been. It might have been. Everybody was 1:52:14.880 --> 1:52:16.320 February is where you catch all year. 1:52:16.960 --> 1:52:20.479 Yeah, so it's like, oh ship, Okay, So I canceled 1:52:20.520 --> 1:52:24.320 my tour and I flew I flew in, and I 1:52:24.439 --> 1:52:26.720 flew right and I went right to, uh, what's the 1:52:26.760 --> 1:52:27.639 girl King's house? 1:52:27.880 --> 1:52:28.559 That was when King. 1:52:30.240 --> 1:52:31.760 When they had a little and I here you were 1:52:31.800 --> 1:52:36.240 like talking about King and Erica. My friend Megan, she 1:52:36.400 --> 1:52:38.559 was happening to kind of be managing them at the time, 1:52:40.560 --> 1:52:42.040 and she was, and I told her. I was like, man, 1:52:42.080 --> 1:52:43.280 I want to get them on the record. I think 1:52:43.320 --> 1:52:47.599 that'd be dope. They got some fire now talking moved 1:52:47.680 --> 1:52:50.240 love and I went to their house and I to 1:52:50.680 --> 1:52:52.880 meet them and to write the song. And they happen 1:52:52.920 --> 1:52:54.519 to have a washer and dryer, and I had just 1:52:54.600 --> 1:52:56.679 came from Europe. I went stretching that crib. 1:52:56.800 --> 1:52:58.880 I got launched, and I was like, nigger. 1:52:59.800 --> 1:53:03.479 I wrote some chords and I said, okay, y'all finish it. 1:53:03.600 --> 1:53:06.639 I went to the laundry room and did laundry while 1:53:06.680 --> 1:53:09.320 they were writing a song. And in the middle of that, 1:53:09.600 --> 1:53:12.360 I had Loupe come over to their house to meet 1:53:12.439 --> 1:53:14.920 up with him to give him the idea I had 1:53:15.439 --> 1:53:17.800 for him to do what he's gonna do for the record. 1:53:18.040 --> 1:53:20.400 And then I had Most come over a little bit later. 1:53:20.880 --> 1:53:22.400 So they were freaking out. They were like, what, oh 1:53:22.479 --> 1:53:24.599 my god. You know, Most came over a little bit 1:53:24.680 --> 1:53:26.920 later so I could tell him, Hey, this is what 1:53:27.000 --> 1:53:29.000 I'm thinking about doing blah blah blah blah tomorrow when 1:53:29.000 --> 1:53:30.519 you come to you know, blah blah blah blah blah. 1:53:30.920 --> 1:53:33.759 But that's and then literally that's just how that happened. 1:53:33.800 --> 1:53:37.120 That that process was black Radio one was a five 1:53:37.360 --> 1:53:40.800 was five days of recording, and then Black Radio two 1:53:40.960 --> 1:53:42.240 was like six days of recording. 1:53:43.120 --> 1:53:45.800 You know, man on Black Radio two. We have to 1:53:45.920 --> 1:53:50.679 ask a guest that we had earlier was music Lord 1:53:50.880 --> 1:53:57.080 Jesus does music like ah yeah, oh, because. 1:54:00.400 --> 1:54:04.000 A little's a real gall that. 1:54:05.960 --> 1:54:07.920 You don't like it what he says, you don't like you. 1:54:08.560 --> 1:54:12.400 So he has a he has a very complex relationship 1:54:12.520 --> 1:54:13.679 with his back catalog. 1:54:14.080 --> 1:54:14.880 Okay, when we had. 1:54:14.880 --> 1:54:17.559 Him on the show, we didn't specifically ask him about 1:54:17.640 --> 1:54:20.400 this song. So no, he didn't slander. Now, we didn't 1:54:20.400 --> 1:54:23.280 ask about this song. But no, that ship as hard 1:54:23.280 --> 1:54:23.679 as fuck. 1:54:24.120 --> 1:54:26.640 But like, what was there? Was it like recording that? 1:54:26.880 --> 1:54:28.240 Did he into it? 1:54:28.360 --> 1:54:30.160 Or what was it he loved? Matter of fact, last 1:54:30.160 --> 1:54:31.960 time I saw him live, I was just happen to 1:54:32.040 --> 1:54:34.360 be in Oakland and I saw he was at Yo 1:54:34.520 --> 1:54:36.040 She's and I just walked in and he was playing 1:54:36.080 --> 1:54:39.120 all yeah, he was singing he liked it, you like it? 1:54:42.400 --> 1:54:45.480 Oh yeah, that's another universe. That's another universe thing. Because 1:54:45.560 --> 1:54:48.200 I flew to Atlanta, I did the music already. I 1:54:48.280 --> 1:54:52.200 flew to Atlanta so he could write the song. And 1:54:52.320 --> 1:54:55.280 we went to the studio, and that's why he liked it. 1:54:55.640 --> 1:54:57.839 The first night, the first night we were in the studio, 1:54:58.120 --> 1:55:00.520 he came up with the hook and oh blah, there 1:55:00.520 --> 1:55:03.800 were We had another night. So the next day, matter 1:55:03.800 --> 1:55:05.520 of fact, you have something to do with this Fonte. 1:55:05.800 --> 1:55:06.800 We never talked about this. 1:55:06.840 --> 1:55:09.080 Okay, because I'm tired of I know, I think I 1:55:09.240 --> 1:55:09.880 know what this is. 1:55:10.040 --> 1:55:11.280 If it's okay, go ahead. 1:55:11.960 --> 1:55:13.680 I was in Atlanta and the. 1:55:13.760 --> 1:55:16.760 Next day you, for an exchange, was having a show 1:55:16.880 --> 1:55:19.400 at some festival or something in Atlanta. 1:55:22.280 --> 1:55:23.480 Yo, that's right, because we hit you. 1:55:23.600 --> 1:55:26.200 Yeah, you came on stage and I came sat in 1:55:26.320 --> 1:55:26.680 with y'all. 1:55:26.800 --> 1:55:28.880 Hell yeah that It was dope as fun, I remember. 1:55:28.800 --> 1:55:31.320 And Christte Michelle was there. I think she played after you, 1:55:31.960 --> 1:55:36.040 Yes she did. I stopped for seven I didn't. First 1:55:36.080 --> 1:55:44.720 of all, don't I'm. 1:55:43.520 --> 1:55:46.840 I love all of black radio. I love all black radio. 1:55:46.960 --> 1:55:48.720 Because that was that was shout out to jo dene 1:55:48.760 --> 1:55:50.920 On that Jodine hit me. Jody, she hit me. 1:55:53.000 --> 1:55:56.760 Because at the time our keyboard player and mb Zoo 1:55:57.040 --> 1:55:59.600 he had like another gig. He has something to do. 1:55:59.720 --> 1:56:02.120 It's like the only f gig you ever ever missed, 1:56:02.600 --> 1:56:05.720 And and she was like yo, Joe name was like yo, 1:56:05.960 --> 1:56:08.600 so Robert, would you mind if he just come up? 1:56:08.680 --> 1:56:10.560 I was like rob ro was She's like glass. 1:56:10.680 --> 1:56:13.640 I was like hell yeah, yes, yeah, that's my nigga. 1:56:13.720 --> 1:56:14.320 Tell me to come on. 1:56:14.880 --> 1:56:15.840 And so from that is it. 1:56:16.640 --> 1:56:19.600 From sitting in with you, Chrissette saw me. It was 1:56:19.640 --> 1:56:21.080 like I saw her after that. I was like, Yo, 1:56:21.160 --> 1:56:21.600 what's up? 1:56:22.040 --> 1:56:22.480 What the fuck? 1:56:22.560 --> 1:56:23.440 She was like, oh, my bust. 1:56:23.480 --> 1:56:25.520 And she was like, I was going to fly back 1:56:25.560 --> 1:56:27.440 to New York, but it was a storm in New York, 1:56:27.560 --> 1:56:31.960 really best Sandy, Hurricane Sandy, and she was like, I 1:56:32.000 --> 1:56:34.440 can't fly back to New York, so I'm gonna be 1:56:34.520 --> 1:56:36.680 here nextra day. What are you doing? I was like, Yo, 1:56:37.280 --> 1:56:40.600 I'm in the studio, Come hang out, come by. She 1:56:40.720 --> 1:56:42.760 came by the studio and I handed her up in 1:56:42.800 --> 1:56:45.040 the pad. That was like right the second verse. So 1:56:45.160 --> 1:56:49.440 that's literally how oh yeah. It came about the two 1:56:49.840 --> 1:56:52.600 her being on it because originally just music, but literally 1:56:52.640 --> 1:56:54.360 came about because I came to sit in with you 1:56:54.520 --> 1:56:55.440 and Chrissette. 1:56:55.120 --> 1:56:59.080 Was there, watch God work Robert. 1:57:00.080 --> 1:57:04.240 Next, I'm like Radio two. The Bill Withers thing. Bill 1:57:04.280 --> 1:57:08.480 Withers came to the so for a random for some 1:57:08.680 --> 1:57:11.960 random reason, Casey when we set up at the studio 1:57:12.080 --> 1:57:14.680 was like, yo, let's do let's play Lovely Day for 1:57:14.800 --> 1:57:17.840 the sound check. And I was like, okay, we literally 1:57:17.920 --> 1:57:21.400 never played Lovely Day A right, Okay, what are the 1:57:21.480 --> 1:57:23.240 changes the game? You showed me the change. 1:57:23.240 --> 1:57:25.880 I'm like, cool. So we just took did one take 1:57:25.960 --> 1:57:26.880 down Lovely Day. 1:57:26.920 --> 1:57:29.480 Boom. That's literally what you hear on the fucking album 1:57:29.520 --> 1:57:32.240 on the on the extended version. There's a Black Radio 1:57:32.280 --> 1:57:34.920 two then as extended. So anyway, one of the guys 1:57:35.000 --> 1:57:36.960 there was like, yo, I know Bill, I'm gonna call 1:57:37.080 --> 1:57:39.520 up and tell him you did that. I was like, okay, cool, 1:57:40.840 --> 1:57:44.880 call Bill. Everybody didn't call Bill. He called Bill, put 1:57:44.920 --> 1:57:46.320 me on the phone with him. He was like, yeah, 1:57:46.360 --> 1:57:47.960 young man, I wish i could come to hear your song, 1:57:48.040 --> 1:57:50.200 but you know I'm feeling a little sick or whatever. 1:57:50.240 --> 1:57:52.440 I was like, oh, okay, no problem, man, honor, honor 1:57:52.520 --> 1:57:55.040 that you even took the time to talk whatever. Cool. 1:57:55.640 --> 1:57:59.560 So fast forward the next day, Uh, who's that I 1:57:59.600 --> 1:58:02.160 was going to I'm in in uh Macy Gray, I think. 1:58:02.680 --> 1:58:06.080 The next day and Rash was writing his rhyme and 1:58:06.560 --> 1:58:09.320 he ended up having like a writer's block in one part. 1:58:09.440 --> 1:58:12.560 So we were just upstairs chilling, kind of talking shit 1:58:12.680 --> 1:58:15.400 or whatever, and up walk up up the stairs Bill 1:58:15.440 --> 1:58:16.080 Withers walk in. 1:58:17.200 --> 1:58:20.040 Wow, Like what dude? 1:58:20.680 --> 1:58:23.400 He walks in and he's like, well, let me hear 1:58:23.480 --> 1:58:27.080 this song? Like, oh shit, okay. So we go to 1:58:27.160 --> 1:58:30.480 the downstairs the studio play on the song. He's like, yeah, 1:58:30.520 --> 1:58:33.000 I like the song. Like what y'all did with it? Bluhm, 1:58:33.000 --> 1:58:36.480 and then talk to us for three hours straight. 1:58:37.120 --> 1:58:39.840 Stories just stories and stories. 1:58:39.440 --> 1:58:42.520 And stories, got all video story and story story From that. 1:58:43.200 --> 1:58:45.240 Rashid was sitting behind him with a pin in the 1:58:45.280 --> 1:58:48.120 pad writing some of what Bill was writing down singing. 1:58:49.080 --> 1:58:52.520 So Rash's second verse when I stand Alone from Blackbird Too, 1:58:53.040 --> 1:58:58.400 really is a lot of Bill Withers words. I mean, wow, 1:59:00.040 --> 1:59:01.360 go listen to it right after this. 1:59:02.200 --> 1:59:05.640 Yeah, he's one of our bucket lists. 1:59:05.640 --> 1:59:05.720 Man. 1:59:05.760 --> 1:59:07.160 I hate we never got a chance to get him 1:59:07.160 --> 1:59:07.680 for your past. 1:59:07.760 --> 1:59:11.800 Man, I want to deal what is on cres So, Rob, 1:59:12.320 --> 1:59:17.080 are there any like, is there any I mean besides 1:59:17.120 --> 1:59:21.600 the eventual collaboration now you'll do with your son yep, 1:59:22.000 --> 1:59:22.400 for sure. 1:59:22.960 --> 1:59:25.360 Are there any bucket list projects that. 1:59:26.800 --> 1:59:30.680 You you have yet to you know, are you going 1:59:30.760 --> 1:59:32.840 to do a forraae into classical music? 1:59:33.000 --> 1:59:37.840 Will you? You know what guitar and I don't know. 1:59:38.560 --> 1:59:40.360 I would like to hear Robert Glass would take on 1:59:40.520 --> 1:59:48.160 like a Brazilian love affair, not a cover app not 1:59:48.280 --> 1:59:50.040 covering that, but you know something in that. 1:59:50.280 --> 1:59:51.320 You know your own ship, but. 1:59:51.440 --> 1:59:57.920 Just that like the movie, like the movie Lady, My 1:59:58.080 --> 1:59:58.840 Lady is Cuban. 1:59:59.680 --> 2:00:03.160 Okay, So I went to Cuba hints we have a 2:00:03.240 --> 2:00:05.200 kid and Cuba. 2:00:07.280 --> 2:00:07.640 She took me. 2:00:07.680 --> 2:00:09.320 I didn't beat the Cuba, but she took me to 2:00:09.400 --> 2:00:13.320 Cuba in November to see the vibe and go to 2:00:13.400 --> 2:00:15.000 see the music of the clubs and everything. It was 2:00:15.080 --> 2:00:18.280 so fucking inspiring, bro, Like the musicians out there are 2:00:18.400 --> 2:00:19.680 fucking incredible. 2:00:19.920 --> 2:00:22.680 You got to see like the whole Apro Cuban, all 2:00:22.760 --> 2:00:22.960 of it. 2:00:23.160 --> 2:00:25.440 All of all of it. I even got cool with 2:00:25.520 --> 2:00:27.520 Chucho because that I've been to Chucho's crib and we 2:00:27.600 --> 2:00:30.880 hung out and played, you know what I mean, like crazy. 2:00:30.960 --> 2:00:33.360 So I want to do like a I definitely want 2:00:33.400 --> 2:00:37.680 to do a like a a project like my ship 2:00:37.960 --> 2:00:39.960 meaning Cuba, you know what I mean, Like. 2:00:42.000 --> 2:00:43.640 Red Hot back in the day, you know. 2:00:43.840 --> 2:00:46.960 Red Hot wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely want 2:00:46.960 --> 2:00:48.680 to do something like that where it brings that that 2:00:49.080 --> 2:00:52.360 that sound together because so many people take from Cuban musicians, 2:00:52.400 --> 2:00:54.400 but you don't see the musicians because the motherfuckers can't 2:00:54.440 --> 2:00:56.040 come over here, you know what I mean? 2:00:58.680 --> 2:00:59.240 You know what I mean? 2:00:59.400 --> 2:01:01.480 That parts I was like, yeah, man, I was learning 2:01:01.520 --> 2:01:03.400 so much from her about the culture and everything, and 2:01:03.720 --> 2:01:06.080 so it's so deep and rich and so dope, you 2:01:06.120 --> 2:01:08.960 know what I mean. But also I thought a Brazilian 2:01:09.000 --> 2:01:10.440 one too, bro, Like I want to do something. 2:01:10.920 --> 2:01:13.320 It's just like you know, the. 2:01:13.440 --> 2:01:16.000 Chords in Brazilian music, you just be like, oh, you know, 2:01:16.280 --> 2:01:20.360 just over the thing. So many Yeah, yeah, I have 2:01:20.440 --> 2:01:22.480 so many. But I have so many projects in my mind. 2:01:23.040 --> 2:01:25.160 That one that I want to I want to get done, 2:01:25.560 --> 2:01:27.560 you know what I mean. But you know, I definitely 2:01:27.560 --> 2:01:30.000 want to. I want to do an official, like some ship, 2:01:30.040 --> 2:01:32.800 an official thing with the roots, a real one, you 2:01:32.840 --> 2:01:34.520 know what I mean. I've sat in so many years, 2:01:35.000 --> 2:01:37.520 but I attribute a lot of people asking me, like 2:01:37.560 --> 2:01:40.400 you know what I'm saying, like where am I? Where 2:01:40.520 --> 2:01:43.480 my sensibilities come for playing hip hop and things like that? 2:01:43.560 --> 2:01:45.320 How I got into it because I wasn't. I wasn't 2:01:45.320 --> 2:01:47.040 playing hip hop when I was in Houston. I just 2:01:47.080 --> 2:01:49.080 started playing hip hop until I got to New York 2:01:49.360 --> 2:01:51.320 and but I'll started taking me to y'all jam sessions. 2:01:51.360 --> 2:01:52.960 And my first time playing hip hop with a band 2:01:53.080 --> 2:01:54.920 was with you, you know what I mean. Like, So 2:01:55.440 --> 2:01:57.720 I got a chance to play with the roots a lot, 2:01:57.880 --> 2:02:00.360 which trained me in that in that old and to 2:02:00.480 --> 2:02:02.920 sit there and watch James Poyson and you know and 2:02:03.000 --> 2:02:05.800 watch June you know what I mean, play you know 2:02:05.840 --> 2:02:08.280 what I mean, like them cats and and the Mirror 2:02:08.280 --> 2:02:11.720 and that that really train. That's part of my part 2:02:11.760 --> 2:02:12.480 of my whole ship. 2:02:13.000 --> 2:02:14.080 You say nothing by the word. 2:02:14.040 --> 2:02:18.120 Let's do it, And don't be looking out to glass. 2:02:18.120 --> 2:02:20.840 We'n be hitting you up. We're in the process. I 2:02:20.920 --> 2:02:22.640 was putting the buggy here now since you're in LA, 2:02:23.160 --> 2:02:26.120 we're trying to figure out somehow trying to write a 2:02:26.160 --> 2:02:28.640 sketch for season two of Sherman Showcase. 2:02:29.280 --> 2:02:31.400 And we want we want you to be we want 2:02:31.440 --> 2:02:32.640 you to play thelonious month. 2:02:35.120 --> 2:02:35.800 We don't know how. 2:02:36.000 --> 2:02:36.840 Yeah, so. 2:02:39.640 --> 2:02:41.400 Just gonna get ready. 2:02:45.640 --> 2:02:46.600 Sherman Showcase. 2:02:48.600 --> 2:02:48.720 Yo. 2:02:48.880 --> 2:02:52.120 Can I just a little suggestion for the Emir Robert 2:02:52.160 --> 2:02:54.160 Glassford thing. I don't know if you recall, Robert, but 2:02:54.240 --> 2:02:56.080 there was a Roots picnic about. 2:02:56.320 --> 2:02:59.320 What was that side six years ago? Did you performed that. 2:03:00.040 --> 2:03:00.520 In the morning? 2:03:01.160 --> 2:03:02.640 Okay, so you remember telling me. 2:03:03.000 --> 2:03:05.360 I remember I was talking to you and Marcia and 2:03:05.520 --> 2:03:07.200 I asked you, like, you know, what, what was you 2:03:07.320 --> 2:03:08.480 like as far as the Ruce pic and he was like, 2:03:08.480 --> 2:03:10.680 I would really like to perform when it gets dark outside. 2:03:12.320 --> 2:03:12.520 I was. 2:03:14.680 --> 2:03:16.640 I was just like for you to also take this moment. 2:03:16.640 --> 2:03:19.000 I'm like when the Bruce picnic come back outside. 2:03:18.920 --> 2:03:21.240 Said look, they were setting up tables and ship like. 2:03:23.080 --> 2:03:24.960 Performed for the food truck man. 2:03:25.760 --> 2:03:30.160 I was like, Robert, even I don't attend the first 2:03:30.320 --> 2:03:31.080 U picnic. 2:03:31.640 --> 2:03:36.320 Was gotten there yet early it was yeah, no, none 2:03:36.360 --> 2:03:38.680 of the cat hadn't even got none of the cabiney. 2:03:38.920 --> 2:03:40.960 So let everybody seems to be like, yo, you're playing. 2:03:41.040 --> 2:03:42.800 I was like, I played nine hours earlier. 2:03:44.000 --> 2:03:44.920 All day, poor. 2:03:44.800 --> 2:03:47.920 Baby was there all was a there on Front Street. 2:03:47.920 --> 2:03:49.280 Because I'm like, in a way too, I don't know 2:03:49.360 --> 2:03:52.400 how much he's gotten a real live, great Black radio live. 2:03:53.920 --> 2:03:56.000 I was just saying, when if we could like recreate something, 2:03:57.000 --> 2:03:57.840 were you not part of. 2:03:57.880 --> 2:04:03.280 The the joint I did with Esperanza or was that 2:04:03.680 --> 2:04:08.760 not you? Okay? Because you that was probably ramming. 2:04:09.000 --> 2:04:11.760 See see I had to go on a good path. 2:04:11.840 --> 2:04:12.320 So back to the. 2:04:13.960 --> 2:04:14.160 Bus. 2:04:14.640 --> 2:04:17.960 Now this is this is no, no, no, we're doing 2:04:18.000 --> 2:04:21.800 some boting. Come on building picnic for twenty twenty one 2:04:22.160 --> 2:04:23.880 Robert Hill in. 2:04:23.880 --> 2:04:27.040 The studio first and then we'll we're in the next 2:04:27.120 --> 2:04:30.960 routs picnic lu by the office. So that's where we 2:04:31.040 --> 2:04:32.320 can have a roots picnic. 2:04:32.680 --> 2:04:36.080 Oh there you go. Yeah, exactly, there's that that part 2:04:36.960 --> 2:04:38.080 part to twenty one. 2:04:38.160 --> 2:04:42.920 I said twenty all right, well it's so it probably 2:04:42.920 --> 2:04:43.680 will be twenty two. 2:04:43.800 --> 2:04:47.640 But yes, whatever, I just I want ribery class in 2:04:47.720 --> 2:04:48.040 the roots. 2:04:48.040 --> 2:04:50.840 I was just saying, boom, let's do it, let's go yo, 2:04:51.040 --> 2:04:53.400 I'm here. Whatever happened to that? Did that thing ever 2:04:53.440 --> 2:04:56.240 come out that we did in Dallas with the orchestra? 2:04:56.680 --> 2:04:57.040 You know what? 2:04:59.520 --> 2:05:00.360 You know, it's weird. 2:05:01.360 --> 2:05:06.800 Shaka's portion made it on YouTube. I don't you're Your 2:05:06.840 --> 2:05:10.520 guess is as good as mine. I think whoever like 2:05:10.760 --> 2:05:13.480 underwrote that like put it out for quarantine entertainment. But 2:05:14.360 --> 2:05:16.800 that's a good question. No, it hasn't officially come out, 2:05:16.880 --> 2:05:19.840 but that too, I think I did a piece with Erica. 2:05:20.360 --> 2:05:23.720 Yeah, we did Erica, you Shaka Khan and the Roots 2:05:23.760 --> 2:05:28.920 in the Dallas. Uh yeah, yeah it was. We did 2:05:28.960 --> 2:05:33.280 some amazing stuff together. So you know, Dog, you know 2:05:33.560 --> 2:05:36.520 you're my favorite. Absolutely, we're going to do ship together. 2:05:36.720 --> 2:05:37.040 Let's go. 2:05:37.960 --> 2:05:40.360 Let us go, Yo, Rob We thank you for doing 2:05:41.000 --> 2:05:47.880 Questions finally two parter. 2:05:49.520 --> 2:05:53.720 Yeah, so on behalf of Sugar Steve, Laya Fangelo and 2:05:54.040 --> 2:05:57.800 uh unpaid bills somewhere. We also like to give a 2:05:57.880 --> 2:06:01.520 shout out to our our pals at Mazda and they're 2:06:01.640 --> 2:06:04.960 glorious X thirty No, thank you very much, Robert. 2:06:05.000 --> 2:06:08.760 We appreciate congratulations again on you on your daughter. Man, 2:06:08.800 --> 2:06:11.560 I have what's what's her name? 2:06:11.920 --> 2:06:20.200 Her name is Lola, oh lol, Lola? Oh yeah, may Riley. 2:06:20.360 --> 2:06:23.680 He's a lot going forty three, going off forty three 2:06:23.720 --> 2:06:25.720 exactly for sure. 2:06:26.000 --> 2:06:28.440 All right, this is quest Love and we'll see you 2:06:28.480 --> 2:06:41.280 on the next go round. Quest Love Supreme. What's Love 2:06:41.320 --> 2:06:43.720 Supreme is a production of iHeart Radio. 2:06:46.800 --> 2:06:50.040 For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, 2:06:50.280 --> 2:06:53.320 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.