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Speaker 1: I don't feel to encourage when you guys are snickering
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Speaker 3: Episode of Quest Love Supreme.
Speaker 1: My name is Quest Love. We have Teams Supreme with
Speaker 1: us snickering light you. Now that makes me sound like
Speaker 1: the person that leads our world with his weak ass.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know exactly.
Speaker 5: I'm doing good contrary to the world. I'm doing No, actually, no,
Speaker 5: I'm doing I'm doing good. I'm feeling good about about
Speaker 5: life and whatnot.
Speaker 6: That's cool. I'm talking to you all, so.
Speaker 1: Steve, Yes, I know this is this is the highlight
Speaker 1: of you know, I look forward to these conversations with
Speaker 1: my friends.
Speaker 3: Never know. Sugar Steve.
Speaker 7: How you doing, Hey quest Hey, Team Supreme.
Speaker 3: Steve.
Speaker 7: I'm feeling real good right now.
Speaker 1: You know, it's been a long time since we asked
Speaker 1: you about to Sugar Network. What's what's the HAPs of
Speaker 1: the Sugar Network since Lantee Funny should ask.
Speaker 8: We just ended season three and began season We just
Speaker 8: started season four, which is the Blueberries Network now Blueberry
Speaker 8: We're going to pretend after three years you don't know
Speaker 8: how the Sugar Network works.
Speaker 9: I'm sorry, Yes, everybody gets a season.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, yes, season we're on season four.
Speaker 7: But we've only been around for like two and a
Speaker 7: half years.
Speaker 8: But we're already on season four and the new founder
Speaker 8: is Blue Barriers, so you can find him at Blue Barriers.
Speaker 7: It's the Blue Berrius Network for season four.
Speaker 1: Thank you for you're still the executive producer.
Speaker 8: Right, yeah, I'm the original founder Sugar Steve's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's named after you. I've seen that and find Tickeolo.
Speaker 2: I'm good, brother, I'm good.
Speaker 3: House it down yourth cacollect.
Speaker 2: It's cool, man.
Speaker 10: I think the governor said that they're about to do
Speaker 10: a phase what they call a phase two point five
Speaker 10: or something, so like now they're starting to open some gems.
Speaker 10: So like gyms can open it like thirty percent capacity.
Speaker 10: I think restaurants can open it like twenty percent.
Speaker 2: Some crazy. My ass is still in the house, so
Speaker 2: this shit needs nothing to me. But but you'a don't
Speaker 2: have the gyms.
Speaker 5: The gym's out here doing the little outside thing like
Speaker 5: they going into the parking lot too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Some of the gyms are outdoors.
Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, yeah, some of them were. They were actually
Speaker 10: actually my gym for a minute. They were kind of
Speaker 10: doing it outside. Uh, but I don't know, I think
Speaker 10: it kind of fell off, But I don't know. Just
Speaker 10: being around a bunch of people just breathing hard and
Speaker 10: sweating like that not seemed like a good life playing.
Speaker 2: So yes, I've just.
Speaker 10: Been sticking to my old man walks in the evening
Speaker 10: and uht'.
Speaker 3: Herefore old man walks?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, just I hit my walk.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: Still getting your tenth dolls?
Speaker 3: That's that?
Speaker 2: What's up? Man?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Im three morning?
Speaker 6: Still are you still every morning? Six o'clock?
Speaker 3: Rick?
Speaker 1: Rick Rubin put me up to the task, and I'm
Speaker 1: still doing it ten thousand a day.
Speaker 2: That's great, man.
Speaker 5: That's I'm trying to unleash my inner strict uh growing
Speaker 5: a bug and I'm actually gonna get on a plane.
Speaker 2: Wow, really did you coming back to see your people?
Speaker 2: See your mom?
Speaker 3: My?
Speaker 6: Mom is turning seventy And I'm like, cain't missed that?
Speaker 4: So I'm else.
Speaker 10: Man Side actually flew from uh La. She she did
Speaker 10: that flight. She flew from l A to DC and
Speaker 10: she said it was actually it ain't it ain't that bad.
Speaker 9: It was, No, It's all good.
Speaker 5: I'm make sure I eat everything I need to eat
Speaker 5: for I get on the plane. Don't drink nothing, you know,
Speaker 5: and if I do, I got my Clorox whites. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna have my gloves. I'm gonna have my mask. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna have my shield and I ain't.
Speaker 3: Gonna can find Jet Blue.
Speaker 6: No, I'm ana probably do do.
Speaker 5: My Mama's my Mama's carrier, United, the one that has
Speaker 5: you know, housed and fed may for forty something years.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, Yeah, United. I forgot, Yeah, I forgot that.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that this
Speaker 1: particular episode of Course Left Supreme is being brought to
Speaker 1: you by Mazda. I gotta say shout out to Mazda
Speaker 1: for letting me test drive their c X thirty. I
Speaker 1: gotta say it's my first grown man car that I
Speaker 1: personally drove myself.
Speaker 5: Well, that's like one of those c uvs, right like
Speaker 5: they got su They had SUVs, but now they got
Speaker 5: the crossover.
Speaker 2: The crossover kind of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But you know, like when I get in it,
Speaker 1: like mind driving experience doesn't warrant a turnaround?
Speaker 2: Like what's that?
Speaker 3: I never heard for cars that I drive?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Most cars that I drive
Speaker 1: are yeah, like the set of Pee Wee's Playoffs. But
Speaker 1: I gotta say this, this is kind of official. I
Speaker 1: enjoy driving it, and good luck and trying to get
Speaker 1: this car back from me.
Speaker 3: My appreciate that it's comfortable.
Speaker 1: And plus, you know, I'm on the farm driving two
Speaker 1: hours every day to the city, and you know this
Speaker 1: is where I listen to all my favorite podcasts and
Speaker 1: my audio books and my meditation stuff.
Speaker 3: So yeah, this this came right in time. I appreciate ably.
Speaker 2: On Spotify and I saw you listening.
Speaker 10: To some meditation and something, I was like, what the
Speaker 10: hell is this a mirrorge playing?
Speaker 3: I forgot that Spotify actually snitches on what I listened.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, right now follow yeah, you follow me.
Speaker 2: You ain't gonna see me. This is nothing but the
Speaker 2: Brandy album for them.
Speaker 1: I forgot the world can see what I'm listening to
Speaker 1: because all I'm listening to is the meditation stuff.
Speaker 10: Yeah it, but it'd be the time too, so it'll
Speaker 10: be it's not you know, I mean, it'll be like
Speaker 10: damn two o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2: It'll be late.
Speaker 1: And so I see, I'll say that from midnight till
Speaker 1: like eleven in the morning, that's my meditation now.
Speaker 5: So you got to get to the change this picture.
Speaker 5: Though they got your Philadelphia Experiment picture. I don't even
Speaker 5: know who that person is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, not not you follow my see people follow
Speaker 1: always look for quest love.
Speaker 3: No, you got who my my my? Oh your government,
Speaker 3: the government.
Speaker 6: Shoot, Neil K. Thompson is right there, you are so right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how you mere.
Speaker 9: I don't think people know that, because that's why your
Speaker 9: listeners are different.
Speaker 3: You got okay, I know, yeah, like only only for
Speaker 3: certain people.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, that's only for cute link niggas.
Speaker 3: Because exactly, only for certain for certain niggas. That's exactly
Speaker 3: why I did that, exactly.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, it's good to hear that you're you're facing your fears.
Speaker 1: I too, am going to get on a plane tomorrow.
Speaker 6: Ain't you been getting on a plane. Don't play me,
Speaker 6: play lotto.
Speaker 3: No, I've not been on a plane since.
Speaker 2: So you drove, because y'all drove to the all.
Speaker 3: I've been driving to Ohio since that time period.
Speaker 9: I have questions about what y'all doing up there?
Speaker 6: Y'all doing something productive out there?
Speaker 1: I am you mean them, I'm not just you.
Speaker 6: I was just curious. I didn't know how to ask.
Speaker 5: But I see all the pictures posted, and I see
Speaker 5: you know, all the celebrities, and I'm just wondering, since
Speaker 5: we know we're gonna enter the state of the world.
Speaker 5: Are y'all like actually talking about things that could help
Speaker 5: you know that y'all are powerful individuals.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's not G thirteen, but I will
Speaker 1: say that a good four to five hours is pretty much.
Speaker 1: I don't know when these episodes are coming to be
Speaker 1: or I don't know if it belongs to quality or.
Speaker 7: Dave owns the content.
Speaker 1: But dude, oh, I told you that's what they was doing.
Speaker 1: I told you it's about Yeah, it's at this rate,
Speaker 1: I think he has I know, lie, I think there's
Speaker 1: about forty hours of content.
Speaker 9: Yo.
Speaker 5: Nicol were releasing our Dave Chappelle episode fu that.
Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying.
Speaker 9: Oh man, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not that's the thing. I don't think Dave
Speaker 1: has a platform. But this is going to go somewhere someday.
Speaker 1: But the last time I did it, last time, it
Speaker 1: was really good episode like most like basically each episode
Speaker 1: is most quality. Dave like, they're the anchors. Those three
Speaker 1: are the anchors, and then me and whatever comedian Kevin
Speaker 1: Hart uh sometimes uh Kevin Hart, Bill Burr was the
Speaker 1: last time before that was John Hamm Common Tiffany Hattish
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, but I will say that, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's not just what I won't say.
Speaker 1: It's not just us. I don't want to say fluffing No,
Speaker 1: it's it's not it's us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually us holding people's feet to the fire.
Speaker 1: Like everything that including an hour about you know, quality's
Speaker 1: situation with the with social media and all that stuff
Speaker 1: like shit got real. So I don't know when or
Speaker 1: where it's coming or how it's coming or whatever. But
Speaker 1: I mean, besides that, Dave actually has taken over his
Speaker 1: his town. I got to commend him, like he has
Speaker 1: the resources and the governor's blessing to.
Speaker 6: You know, Ohio is very important.
Speaker 5: Another and you know the another is that I was asking,
Speaker 5: especially in the election, it's very important.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's yeah, he's you know, he has medical
Speaker 1: people and standby, he's testing, testing his audience, testing his guests.
Speaker 3: And then once you do that, I mean you just yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's rather incredible. Well that is nice for me
Speaker 3: to go back a third time. But I.
Speaker 5: Also do hope that y'all figure out some other things
Speaker 5: to do, like some things like similar to what Lebron
Speaker 5: is doing. I know everybody doesn't have Lebron money, but
Speaker 5: on some levels of opening up stadiums and figuring out
Speaker 5: how we're going to get people out to vote and
Speaker 5: whatnot comfortable places and say spaces.
Speaker 6: Anything that could help the cause.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying outside of just some good conversation,
Speaker 5: but I appreciate the conversation as well.
Speaker 3: Well. All I can do on mine and is raised money.
Speaker 6: So all I can do is tell you, you tell them,
Speaker 6: and then you know, working out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm certain that that's on his mind. I mean
Speaker 1: that that's been discussed. I don't know what his direct
Speaker 1: plans are for November, but you know, right now I'm
Speaker 1: a member of team. When we all vote, we're registering
Speaker 1: about thirty seven thousand.
Speaker 3: People every night. DJ S.
Speaker 6: That's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just trying to is the mystic.
Speaker 5: We can win as long as we keep our heads
Speaker 5: to this guy. This whole renewed sense of optimism is
Speaker 5: what I feel.
Speaker 1: Yes, No, I do have optimism. What I'm what I'm
Speaker 1: more worried about. I mean, i'd be lying if I
Speaker 1: didn't say that I was. I wasn't worried about the
Speaker 1: transition period like November.
Speaker 10: I'm actually getting out from November January.
Speaker 1: Win or lose, like you know, he wins, Yeah, November
Speaker 1: to January as hell for the next four years as hell,
Speaker 1: but lose you know, who knows what that transition will
Speaker 1: be like for those three months borderline hoping that he.
Speaker 3: I predict that he's going to.
Speaker 1: I realized you can lose the presidency if you remove
Speaker 1: the goalposts of the election day. So if he moves
Speaker 1: the election day, then instantly Pelosi becomes president. And so
Speaker 1: I think in his head it's like I'd rather be
Speaker 1: removed than lose, right, So.
Speaker 6: That's going to be another that's another theory.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, saying that he yeah, he'll plan it
Speaker 1: as crats forced me out and like, so that's what
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for. But you know, of course that they
Speaker 1: followed the law, but they've been lost nine of the time,
Speaker 1: so they.
Speaker 2: Ain't followed the ship yet.
Speaker 3: Why now, yeah, why how much mail?
Speaker 6: Y'all getting it? But I'm just saying I ain't getting
Speaker 6: the mailers.
Speaker 10: Like I used to, right exactly, I got I actually
Speaker 10: got my mail today. My mail has been running pretty smool.
Speaker 10: But yeah, it's yeah, this ship is nuts.
Speaker 1: So let's get to our episode, ladies and gentlemen. Today,
Speaker 1: our Steam guest is a is a g that's right.
Speaker 1: He's a multi Grammy Award winning and Emmy Award winning
Speaker 1: not he I'm sorry, not ghetto, but your your your
Speaker 1: g I.
Speaker 4: Have a Soul Training award. Is that going there somewhere?
Speaker 4: You have a soul training award? I have a soldier
Speaker 4: war Yeah, I'm jealous, yo. From the last man. Dollar
Speaker 4: was still alive when I got it. Wow, I got
Speaker 4: a real one.
Speaker 2: Your mayor you okay?
Speaker 3: That inta.
Speaker 2: Yes, I love it.
Speaker 4: About that.
Speaker 9: Whatever.
Speaker 4: I got one brother, got one man, I got a
Speaker 4: one month old of a girl.
Speaker 3: You know, quarantine?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Wow, that was that was.
Speaker 9: Do the math.
Speaker 6: That's coping season.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Wow old man. Congratulations bro, Bro, thank you man.
Speaker 4: What's up?
Speaker 3: Steve?
Speaker 7: Congratulations?
Speaker 3: How you doing? I'm good? Kick and playing and play.
Speaker 1: Wait let me let's let our listeners know for those
Speaker 1: that don't know, because it will be a bunch of
Speaker 1: inside jokes and you know it will be so literally. Yeah,
Speaker 1: our guest today is uh. He's literally worked with the
Speaker 1: best of them. Name him uh Tip Uh, Michelle Dyla,
Speaker 1: Jill Scott.
Speaker 12: Have we worked worked together. My fault we did, y'all
Speaker 12: did y'all did cover It's a lot of lunch, we did.
Speaker 3: Hey, wait, way to circle back speaking.
Speaker 1: Our theme today is having a renewed sense of optimism,
Speaker 1: and our guests actually covered sounds of Blackness, Mortal Classic.
Speaker 3: Optimistic with Brandy right now.
Speaker 1: Yes, we're Brandy and August Green, featuring Common and Kareean Riggans.
Speaker 3: And probably one of the craziest, funniest people I know.
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome Robert Gas.
Speaker 2: Finally a long overdue we should but.
Speaker 5: To me, just for the people that's listening, we should
Speaker 5: tell him the only reason it's taking as long as
Speaker 5: because Amir always wanted to be in the studio, in
Speaker 5: a really banging ass studio with rob And that's the
Speaker 5: only reason we haven't made this happen yet, Because we
Speaker 5: sposed to be an elected lady somewhere exactly.
Speaker 1: We thought we had like hopes and dreams of like
Speaker 1: jam sessions and whatnot.
Speaker 4: I kept looking, I kept looking at my resume, like, God,
Speaker 4: damn it, am I good enough to be.
Speaker 3: Friends Robert? Wait? Time out? Okay, So I just I
Speaker 3: pulled up your Wikipedia page. Have you seen your Wikipedia.
Speaker 4: Page lately, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 3: What's with this photo, the photo that they got for
Speaker 3: your week?
Speaker 2: Is it with the dreads?
Speaker 1: The dreads it's like his sears, Roebuck caog pose.
Speaker 3: It's the ray Kwan You know when Ray Kwan puts
Speaker 3: the temple is uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not proud of that.
Speaker 10: I'm I think we all have one of those poles
Speaker 10: with that pole because when you're deeping, exactly what you do, right.
Speaker 4: I was doing my time where I was really fighting
Speaker 4: against taking photos at the piano. Every time I took
Speaker 4: photos at the piano. I was like, that's corny. I
Speaker 4: want to be away from the piano. And that was
Speaker 4: during the time I was like, nah, I wanted to
Speaker 4: do other stuff and I didn't know what to do,
Speaker 4: and it was weird this this, I was like this, right?
Speaker 1: Is that one photographers suggesting the piano to you is
Speaker 1: like photographers telling the roots, we gotta go out to
Speaker 1: the forest to take photos.
Speaker 3: That's what I have an idea, go out to the forest.
Speaker 4: Or put shackles on your feet, one of the.
Speaker 3: Two roots exactly.
Speaker 2: Take your picture next to Alex Haley.
Speaker 3: Where are you right now?
Speaker 4: Robert I'm in l A.
Speaker 3: I'm at the l A spot.
Speaker 6: That's right, he one of us.
Speaker 3: Now you live out in LA right now? Yep?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well I've always had an LA spot in New
Speaker 4: York spot. But now I'm just here in LA for
Speaker 4: a long period of time, So I'm pretty much I'm
Speaker 4: pretty much here. I think I'm gonna call this home.
Speaker 3: How long have you lived out there? I had this place.
Speaker 4: Here for about four years, but I've never really spent
Speaker 4: you know, you come in for a week here and
Speaker 4: you know, but now I'm like staying here, you know.
Speaker 1: So see, I always I always thought there was a stigma. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, you are a serious musician, and I always
Speaker 1: thought that LA had a stigma on serious musicians, Like
Speaker 1: there's always been this cloud of sort of pretentiousness with
Speaker 1: LA session musicians and LA jazz musicians, at least in
Speaker 1: the sixties, seventies, eighties, and nineties. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's still yeah, it has held over or not, but
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't when I'm out here, I'm not
Speaker 4: being a musician. Okay, when I'm out here, I'm producing.
Speaker 4: I'm going a film film, I'm scoring films. You know
Speaker 4: what I mean, like I always say, New York is
Speaker 4: where you learn how to play, and then LA is
Speaker 4: where you make money.
Speaker 5: So that's why I'm out here one.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm actually long overdue being here in LA really,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I should have been here
Speaker 4: ten years ago. Yeah, yeah, man, just for the opportunities
Speaker 4: of what I want to do, because I'm not trying
Speaker 4: to be the best jazz piano player in the world anymore.
Speaker 4: That's what I've moved to New York to do. When
Speaker 4: I was the high school, I said, I'm going to
Speaker 4: New York. I'm gonna be the best jazz piano player.
Speaker 4: And it was all about that, all about bigger musician years.
Speaker 3: We were there already. I'm over that, yeah man, you were.
Speaker 3: Now you want to work.
Speaker 4: I want to work out.
Speaker 10: Yeah, But that's what it's supposed to be, though, That's
Speaker 10: how it's supposed to be. I had like a og
Speaker 10: tell me, like, you know, the first part of your
Speaker 10: career it's about becoming the best, right, Yeah. But then
Speaker 10: after a while it's like Nigga got to put myself
Speaker 10: in the position to make the most money boom exactly.
Speaker 5: Let me ask, as a fan, does that mean that
Speaker 5: you've done everything you wanted to do musically, like are
Speaker 5: your music goals or.
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, no no. I put myself in
Speaker 4: a position where I can always go back and do that.
Speaker 4: You know, I can always make records. I don't have
Speaker 4: to do the New York grind anymore. I don't have
Speaker 4: to be in New York and beat play the clubs
Speaker 4: and play the gigs, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 4: can go to New York and play my show when
Speaker 4: I want to play my shows and stuff like that
Speaker 4: while I'm out here also doing film scores and all
Speaker 4: that stuff.
Speaker 5: You know, that's why you strategized and did those those
Speaker 5: that when you had a whole residency in New York
Speaker 5: right before you left them, right, that was brilliant.
Speaker 3: That worked worked out. So that's all I got to do.
Speaker 3: Every year.
Speaker 4: I go to New York and stay one month and
Speaker 4: do all my shows.
Speaker 1: Get all your shows out the way, get your quarter done,
Speaker 1: and then out out.
Speaker 4: I love it and see my son. My son's in
Speaker 4: New York, so I go there. I get you know,
Speaker 4: the only reason I just keep my New York spot
Speaker 4: so I can go back and see my son all
Speaker 4: the time. You know what, I mean, but you know,
Speaker 4: other than that, it's it's bye bye New York.
Speaker 2: He had a chance. Has a son had a chance
Speaker 2: to meet his sister yet?
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's one month old? Not yet.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's just whatever. That's it.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 9: You know your son is hilarious.
Speaker 3: How dangerous is he as a musician? Now? Yo?
Speaker 4: Now dude, Now he there's not a deal of joint
Speaker 4: he doesn't know and he there's not a deal of
Speaker 4: joint that he doesn't know how it's made. Like he's
Speaker 4: producing beats. Him and Kareem Riggins Sonny Dreas are making
Speaker 4: the EP together.
Speaker 2: I can't I love it?
Speaker 4: So Glasperhem glassber Riggins like yeah, because first of all,
Speaker 4: Kareem's son is crazy with the have you heard his beats?
Speaker 1: No, he's like maybe thirteen. First of all, generation is
Speaker 1: going to kill me, yo.
Speaker 4: First of all on drums, he's crazy, Like I hire
Speaker 4: him right now for a hip hop get not even joking.
Speaker 4: We jammed and we jammed a few times here in La.
Speaker 4: I believe you killing. But then his beat are his
Speaker 4: beats are stupid? So him and Riley and my son
Speaker 4: they always play Fortnite. They're always on the playing Fortnite
Speaker 4: Ship and then they started making beats and going back
Speaker 4: and forth with the beats and ship.
Speaker 3: So now they Riley and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, JM and Lewis Okay, yeah, he's he's literally that's
Speaker 1: what he's on now, that's literally what he's on.
Speaker 5: Gera, these kids with Swiss beats Son and oh my god,
Speaker 5: Jill Scott her Son making beats too.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, they have access to the tools that we didn't like.
Speaker 10: I mean, this technology is so I mean, you can
Speaker 10: make beats on your damn phone now, you know what
Speaker 10: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So, but Riley's like he and me yesterday that dad,
Speaker 4: can you give me an n PC one? Wow?
Speaker 3: I was like, uh yeah right now, Uh you just
Speaker 3: released the project with uh ninth correct.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the album called we got an album called
Speaker 4: a Dinner Party. Yeah, me, Terrace, Martinmassie and Knife.
Speaker 3: And uh yeah.
Speaker 2: So with Felix, Felix, Felix there.
Speaker 4: Felix, Man, I do. Felix is really dope. His beats
Speaker 4: a dope too. He makes dope beachs too.
Speaker 2: He made tracks, okay, yeah, stupid tracts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody making tracks.
Speaker 4: Everybody makes tracks. I know, I've never been a track.
Speaker 3: I've never been.
Speaker 4: I've never wanted to make track.
Speaker 3: I gotta make some beach right exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, I know all the dopest musicians, Let's
Speaker 4: get in the room and make the dope ship. That's
Speaker 4: how I'm always like that, like pluck that. But yeah,
Speaker 4: you got to make tracks. But but yeah, so we
Speaker 4: just did a dinner party right now. We're just we're
Speaker 4: just finishing up a dinner party kind of remix kind
Speaker 4: of situation where we took all the songs, but we
Speaker 4: put guests on them. So we got Corday and Snoop
Speaker 4: and a few other article low On Aaron, a few
Speaker 4: other artists on those actual songs. Tank from taking the Bangers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's dope. I love her, man, she's dough.
Speaker 4: Uh So yeah, finishing up that. That should be done
Speaker 4: in a few days actually, and then I'm still in
Speaker 4: the middle of working on Black Radio three as well.
Speaker 9: Oh my god, so wait all right, can we just
Speaker 9: real quick?
Speaker 4: Don't you don't know I'm working on Black Radio three.
Speaker 10: No, no, no, no, no, I know, I just forget.
Speaker 2: I just forgot it was I forgot that was coming.
Speaker 6: But that means that you all black Radio three.
Speaker 10: You're supposed to be I was supposed to be. I
Speaker 10: may be like, here's here's the thing I'm not playing.
Speaker 3: Let me first what had happened was happened?
Speaker 10: Hey man, you can't put me on blands. She don't
Speaker 10: want them, to say myself. So let me set the
Speaker 10: recor straight. Look, we in the goddamn pandemic. I don't
Speaker 10: feel like doing ship.
Speaker 2: I have learn.
Speaker 10: Let me look, I'm a baking cliff. I'm in a
Speaker 10: space where I have to learn. The first like three
Speaker 10: four months of this ship was just like what the
Speaker 10: fuck right? So I had to learn how to create
Speaker 10: in this space. I knew how to create in the
Speaker 10: old world when we was out torn and moving around
Speaker 10: and bumping into each other and all that shit.
Speaker 2: I know how to feel that creative tank.
Speaker 10: I had to learn how to feel that creative tank
Speaker 10: in a space where we can't go no fucking where.
Speaker 10: So now I'm waking up again. I'm kind of finding it,
Speaker 10: you know what I mean. I'm kind of finding my
Speaker 10: voice again. So now to everyone, to Robert Glass and everyone, now, yes,
Speaker 10: there's a big possibility I'll probably be on black radio
Speaker 10: now because I know how to create I'm kind of
Speaker 10: finding my voice now. But to me, he was like, yeah, man,
Speaker 10: I got this joint send it. I'm like, Nigga, just
Speaker 10: watched my aunt die on Zoom. Nigga Like, what the.
Speaker 4: Too?
Speaker 9: Literally, oh my, it was like months ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to log into an app to watch
Speaker 2: a funeral. Nigga. This is we're right now. Yeah, yeah
Speaker 2: that might be there was up.
Speaker 1: Okay, this might be my old age, but I'm under
Speaker 1: the impression that you actually invented or pioneered d I
Speaker 1: wyness when it comes. I know, you have an apple
Speaker 1: on your phone that you do the vocals on and
Speaker 1: then you just be sitting it the motherfuckers.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I mean when me and Nick did foreign exchange, yeah,
Speaker 10: that was kind of the first, you know in terms
Speaker 10: of I mean it was us doing it, and then
Speaker 10: I think before that it was the postal service with
Speaker 10: your boy from Deaf Cab, but they were actually sending
Speaker 10: it through the mail.
Speaker 2: We were sending it just you know, through I am.
Speaker 10: But even with then, I mean, that was still at
Speaker 10: the time where you know the world was open, like
Speaker 10: we were going out, I was going to doing shows
Speaker 10: and whatever. So the thing about now is just creating
Speaker 10: in this where I think people are having most of
Speaker 10: the artists, my homies. I talked to the thing that
Speaker 10: the kind of prevalent feeling is that we're still being
Speaker 10: held accountable, or we're still being held we're still accountable
Speaker 10: for the same we're still under the same pressure, but
Speaker 10: we no longer have those things we were able to
Speaker 10: do to release that pressure exact.
Speaker 2: So it's like you motherfucker still won't meet it.
Speaker 10: Damn rapidy rap rapidly saying and do all this ship,
Speaker 10: But I can't go to the gym right where and
Speaker 10: where's the release? Like I can't I can't go to
Speaker 10: the gym, I can't go to the movies. You know
Speaker 10: what I'm saying, Like, well, I apologize, I apologize, and
Speaker 10: I appreciate you for having this moment because there's so
Speaker 10: many people that will feeling the same way.
Speaker 6: You're right, You're right, you right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but I'm coming.
Speaker 10: But you know now, like I'm figuring out like I
Speaker 10: got I'm me and poove being working on ship like
Speaker 10: I got ship coming, so so now I mean I'm
Speaker 10: waking up now like now I figured out so so
Speaker 10: now glass fell like with joints like us being Black
Speaker 10: Radio three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that more than like what happened, because it's.
Speaker 3: Always I have a studio to glass.
Speaker 4: I want you on there too. I was gonna hit you,
Speaker 4: but I had a whole idea. I want to talk
Speaker 4: to you. We'll figure that out.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll do it. If if doesn't do it, I'll
Speaker 7: do it.
Speaker 2: Bars.
Speaker 6: I do interlus. You can see your little brother.
Speaker 2: You have voiceoverat voice over.
Speaker 5: I'm just joking, but I'm more curious about who else
Speaker 5: is because I was just curious because I was like, damn, Robert,
Speaker 5: you gotta I know people be coming at you when
Speaker 5: you do these black radio albums.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, well you haven't even I haven't even said
Speaker 4: it out loud that I was doing it until I
Speaker 4: released a single a few days ago, one of the
Speaker 4: singles off the record with the song I did called
Speaker 4: Betty than I Imagine and with her with her and Michelle Dello. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so that's that's something I was holding for Black Radio three.
Speaker 3: But I was like, fuck.
Speaker 4: It, yeah, you know, because you still go on the
Speaker 4: record correct, Yes, yes, but.
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't want to hold it any longer.
Speaker 4: I'll put this one out, you know, just to just
Speaker 4: put it out there because I need to put some music.
Speaker 4: I just felt like I want to put something out
Speaker 4: and this is a good time for it, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? And you know so, yeah, I got
Speaker 4: to December to finish it, and I'm gonna go on
Speaker 4: next year.
Speaker 1: What have you been doing the last six months? Have
Speaker 1: you been working at home or just like doing nothing?
Speaker 3: Well? No, I learned how to do logic pretty good.
Speaker 2: That got better, bro, That's what I do. That's all.
Speaker 2: That's where I track all my shit in.
Speaker 3: I got. I got better at logic.
Speaker 4: And actually I'm building a mi a terist a building
Speaker 4: a studio right behind my house right here, like literally
Speaker 4: ten steps away. There's a one apartment behind my crib
Speaker 4: and my landlord moved out of there and we took
Speaker 4: it over and made it the studio. So we'll be
Speaker 4: finished with that in like two three weeks. So that'll
Speaker 4: be a place where we can like really go work,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And so we've been doing that.
Speaker 4: And about the noise, no, can't even they can't. It's separate.
Speaker 4: It's no neighbor. The way it is. My landlord had it.
Speaker 4: My landlord had it built by some people from our church.
Speaker 4: It's like all sement and it stands with its own
Speaker 4: It's like isolated is dope. It's really dope.
Speaker 10: So in.
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, I'm curious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yep, you know this is we we've known
Speaker 1: each other for the longest, but we really have never
Speaker 1: had an in depth conversation. And what I always no, no,
Speaker 1: But the thing I was always curious about was that
Speaker 1: I don't think it's same way that Philadelphia had its
Speaker 1: renaissance in two thousand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I felt that Houston.
Speaker 1: Had that same renaissance in two thousand and six, two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven, you know with all these musicians who
Speaker 1: at the time, like what was going on in your
Speaker 1: high school? With all these musicians that were thinking left
Speaker 1: of center? Like what was what was in the air,
Speaker 1: like what was going on?
Speaker 4: So the cool thing about my high school, which you
Speaker 4: know art high school, is because you went to one
Speaker 4: of the best ones in Philly.
Speaker 3: So you went to perform in art high school.
Speaker 4: I want to perform at ours high school in Houston
Speaker 4: High School for performing arts. And the cool thing about
Speaker 4: my high school, which I think we might be the
Speaker 4: only high school that did this.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 4: Or maybe not. You can tell me if y'all did this.
Speaker 4: My jazz director and not even just the jazz director,
Speaker 4: in all the art areas, they hired teachers that didn't
Speaker 4: have degrees. Wow. So our jazz cats that were teachers
Speaker 4: were just cats.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't have degrees.
Speaker 3: They did this by design or purpose or yes.
Speaker 4: Because the motherfuckers that have to degrees most of the time,
Speaker 4: you know. But the cats that the cats they're just playing.
Speaker 4: They out there playing. So they was coming to the
Speaker 4: school showing us was hip right now because they're out
Speaker 4: there playing right now. So the cats that was over
Speaker 4: our jazz, our jazz classes, our jazz professor, doctor Morgan
Speaker 4: had a degree, but he made it so he would
Speaker 4: just hire different and sometimes we would see one dude
Speaker 4: for three months, never see him again. But he was dope. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it was dope. And one of the cool things
Speaker 4: about US school also is we had a class period
Speaker 4: called listening.
Speaker 3: You didn't play.
Speaker 4: You came in and we had a CD player and
Speaker 4: everybody in the class could bring anything they wanted to
Speaker 4: and you just sat there and listened.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 4: And part of the problem with a lot of musicians
Speaker 4: is they don't listen and they don't know what to
Speaker 4: listen to, and they just don't listen, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. And our jazz rector made a class called Listen.
Speaker 4: I would bring stuff. It could be gospel, it could
Speaker 4: be anything, and and and all the cancer bring stuff,
Speaker 4: you know, every Mark Kelly, that's Mark about it. You
Speaker 4: know it was who did you go to school with?
Speaker 4: Like what in my class? In my I went to
Speaker 4: school with Mark Kelly. I went to school with Kendrick Scott,
Speaker 4: h drummer, really guitar player, Mike Moreno Beyonce, she was
Speaker 4: there for one year. Brian, Brian Cox, he was that's
Speaker 4: my best friend.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I met Yeah, I met Brian eighth grade and he
Speaker 4: told me to come there. We met at a talent
Speaker 4: competition called Sammy Davis Junior Awards, and I was playing
Speaker 4: I was playing piano with a gospel group and he
Speaker 4: was singing with an R and B group called Business
Speaker 4: or Pleasure?
Speaker 2: What that was?
Speaker 3: That was like?
Speaker 4: That was ninety three, ninety two.
Speaker 10: Please tell me, Please tell me, Please tell me. Pleasure
Speaker 10: was spelled with a Z, right it might be got.
Speaker 4: To do so.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So so Brian we met at that competition he's like, yo, man,
Speaker 4: you got to come to PBA where you were all
Speaker 4: all the cats playing this blah. I was like, what's that?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: So he told me about it, and I didn't go
Speaker 4: with my freshman year because I thought I was going
Speaker 4: to be a basketball player. So I was like, nah,
Speaker 4: I want to play basketball. So I wasn't even serious
Speaker 4: about piano yet. Yeah, I want to play basketball. I
Speaker 4: wasn't serious.
Speaker 3: How old were you when you got serious about piano?
Speaker 4: When I got serious, uh, I was in like tenth
Speaker 4: grade when I was like, all right, good night, but
Speaker 4: I was playing the church and stuff I was playing.
Speaker 4: I started playing the Church. I literally started playing cando.
Speaker 3: My mom was. My mom was the musa.
Speaker 4: Director at church, and she sang in clubs all through
Speaker 4: the week, like of like R and B gaigs and
Speaker 4: stuff like that. She was literally like WHOOPI Goldberg my
Speaker 4: sister at all that. And then on Sundays did she
Speaker 4: have a group. Yes, her and my stepdad had the group.
Speaker 4: They were literally like seafists and recip ex absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, the early eighties, the curls, the colors so
Speaker 4: for real. But but but on Sundays my mom was
Speaker 4: in minister of music. I had a small church, you know,
Speaker 4: so they allowed me to play the little broke ass
Speaker 4: organ that was in the corner. So I used to
Speaker 4: play every Sunday the pastor whose birthday is it? And
Speaker 4: when I was eleven, I was playing with one finger,
Speaker 4: happy birthday. I figured out how happy birthday with one finger.
Speaker 4: And then they just let me every Sunday, just let
Speaker 4: me sit there and to figure the service out. I
Speaker 4: started playing Luther Van songs with one finger because my
Speaker 4: dad played with the bandjoff to the house every day.
Speaker 2: All the time. And so I was learning all.
Speaker 4: That kind of songs and just and then I just
Speaker 4: I really taught. I really taught myself. Yeah, and then
Speaker 4: I just you know, and then at age like yeah,
Speaker 4: maybe age fourteen, that's when I know what's tenth tenth grade,
Speaker 4: I don't know, tenth grade is whatever I auditioned with.
Speaker 4: I auditioned with three gospel songsu I didn't know any
Speaker 4: jazz tuns. So there was no guidance.
Speaker 5: But up from beginnings of church to the fifteen there
Speaker 5: was nobody got no guidance, nobody to say, but this
Speaker 5: is how you really do this?
Speaker 4: Well, See, my mom had a band, and in her
Speaker 4: band there was a piano piano player, naed Alan Mosley
Speaker 4: that nobody knows, one of them cats from your hometown.
Speaker 3: That was drunk but was really good. And you know
Speaker 3: he's a legend. You never see him.
Speaker 4: So I used to sit next to him on the
Speaker 4: piano eventure and they would have rehearsals because we had
Speaker 4: rehearsals at our crib. We had pianos and a have
Speaker 4: rehearsals the cribs. I would sit there and watch them.
Speaker 4: So the only song I played at my audition that
Speaker 4: was jazzy was he taught me how to play the
Speaker 4: Spider Man theme in in in the form of a
Speaker 4: seam mind of blues. So he taught me how to
Speaker 4: walk the baseline boom boom boom boom boo boom.
Speaker 3: Boom boo boom.
Speaker 4: So that's what I did that and I did three
Speaker 4: gospel songs and then I.
Speaker 3: Got in Wait.
Speaker 13: Speaking of which, wait, Robert, you remember that time I
Speaker 13: bet you that you wouldn't ah man, this is this
Speaker 13: is the most the most devastating gig of my life
Speaker 13: was Robert.
Speaker 3: As a joke.
Speaker 1: You know, I think Robert says, I'm gonna sneak the
Speaker 1: Smurts theme into this jay Z song, all right.
Speaker 2: So it was one of them.
Speaker 3: This is one of them. It was all right.
Speaker 1: So me and Robert Glasper were we were like, uh,
Speaker 1: paying tribute to jay Z at one of these like
Speaker 1: you know, twenty five thousand dollars plate banquet spots. And
Speaker 1: at the last minute I told Glassper, I said, yo, like,
Speaker 1: you know, do something like really uh, you know, a
Speaker 1: high class for these people, like, you know, make it
Speaker 1: sound like classical stuff. And he gets at the piano
Speaker 1: and starts off like you know, you know, like Alicia
Speaker 1: Keys first came out playing for a lease.
Speaker 3: You think of like some deep ship. So Robert goes.
Speaker 1: And the audience like Mariah Carey, Yoka Owner, Everyone's looking,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, this motherfucker starts playing the Spurson.
Speaker 4: I Love you, Michaelphone.
Speaker 3: I was like, mother fuck, are you playing the smurs
Speaker 3: right now?
Speaker 4: But then when we got up.
Speaker 3: It went downhill from there because then Tarik forgot all
Speaker 3: jay Z's lyrics in front of jay Z. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: man words gig.
Speaker 4: Ever, but I remember when we got to stage, y'all
Speaker 4: go on the on your shoe. She came to She
Speaker 4: just threw up and just fell on me like a
Speaker 4: hug and fell up with me. She was like, yo,
Speaker 4: goa on her or.
Speaker 3: Her sister threw up on somebody's shoes, and YO.
Speaker 1: About that gig, bro, that's.
Speaker 9: Like one of y'all like a George Clinton story.
Speaker 5: Y'all make sure I remember that.
Speaker 1: James just signed to the label. I thought he was
Speaker 1: about to get dropped all of that, calling me and like,
Speaker 1: how could you guys forget his music? Everyone knows the song?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Were you?
Speaker 5: Were you always this person? Like in school too? Were
Speaker 5: like were you always funny? And like, you know, outgoing
Speaker 5: or whatnot? Where that is that the same you always?
Speaker 3: I was a kid that I had to sit out
Speaker 3: in the hallway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wass that was me?
Speaker 3: That was me the whole all the time. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Literally I ran into a girl, dude. Maybe in January,
Speaker 4: I don't know, December. I was in Houston. I went
Speaker 4: to a I went to a barz and Noble. Ran
Speaker 4: into an elementary school friend of mine I met and
Speaker 4: we were in the same play. We played Hunky Huckyberry
Speaker 4: Finn play. I played Hunkerberry Finn.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: In fifth grade. That was my debut on stage. That's
Speaker 4: the only thing I've ever done acting. I played Tom
Speaker 4: Tom Sawyer. Tom Sawyer was an Indian dude. We're we're
Speaker 4: ahead of our time. We were out there. Oh wow,
Speaker 4: first of my look and I met this I saw
Speaker 4: this girl. She looked at me. Oh my god, Robert.
Speaker 4: Soon I saw her. I was like the pig, that's
Speaker 4: what I She was big in the play. She looked
Speaker 4: exactly the same, exactly, and she was like, Oh my god,
Speaker 4: you still haven't changed since you were in fourth grade.
Speaker 4: This is so crazy.
Speaker 3: I was like, Damn, I have it.
Speaker 4: I literally haven't wait.
Speaker 3: Question. Was Chris at your school as well? Chris Dave?
Speaker 3: I don't know how old Chris is.
Speaker 4: Chris, he's ninety eight, but he's like ninety he's ninety two. Chris,
Speaker 4: he's supposed to be as good as he as he's
Speaker 4: one hundred and thirteen. Chris, Yo, ch God, damn like no,
Speaker 4: Chris went. Chris graduated from PBA in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 3: Chris is my age.
Speaker 4: Chris is like Chris is like forty is he is
Speaker 4: he forty seven?
Speaker 3: Forty eight? Got yo? Because his voice make you think
Speaker 3: that he's he.
Speaker 4: Keeps bring a prodigy because you keep thinking he's the
Speaker 4: little kid. It's old as fuck. I hear you're like this,
Speaker 4: but thirteen year olds amazing, how did you do that? No, so, Chris,
Speaker 4: we know. So Chris, there was a drummer named Mark
Speaker 4: Simmons before you, you know Mark, Mark Simmons. No, okay,
Speaker 4: so Mark Simmons was probably the beginning. No, before Mark Simmons,
Speaker 4: there was something the lineage of drummers at the school.
Speaker 4: There was a what's the fucking dude that played with
Speaker 4: Tyer Power anyway.
Speaker 3: Power drummers?
Speaker 4: Uh, fucking Dave Gi No, not the famous one, the
Speaker 4: other guy. Maybe he did some tours never mind, yeah him.
Speaker 4: After that, After that there was Mark Simmons. Mark Simmons.
Speaker 4: If you ever saw in the last twenty years or whatever,
Speaker 4: Algio or fucking George Benson, he was on drums. He's
Speaker 4: the guy that was elect maybe a year or two
Speaker 4: order than Chris. That made Chris like really shed because
Speaker 4: he did something to Chris in high school really bad.
Speaker 4: So Chris was mad at him. He had a been
Speaker 4: debta against him the whole time. So Chris under Chris's ass.
Speaker 4: That's what lit a fire have do with the girl
Speaker 4: that made Chris go in the practice room and never
Speaker 4: come out. That's the story. All my friends that are
Speaker 4: around that time tell that story. They were like, yo,
Speaker 4: he went to practice with and then come out practice room.
Speaker 4: So and there was Eric Harlan after Chris. They went
Speaker 4: together around the same time. Maybe Chris is a senior,
Speaker 4: Maybe Eric was, you know, a sophomore or something or
Speaker 4: a freshman.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: After that, then there was Kendrick Scott and then Jamiah
Speaker 4: you know, Jamiah Williams.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jamayer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're still putting out some great motherfucker. James Francis,
Speaker 4: you know he's he's up there. Francis from Alston. His
Speaker 4: parents used to drop him off when I would do
Speaker 4: gigs in Houston. James used to do His parents used
Speaker 4: to drop him off at my sound checks so he
Speaker 4: could watch a soundcheck because he was too young to
Speaker 4: come for the show.
Speaker 3: So I used to let him sit.
Speaker 4: Like right by me and stuff and watch my soundchecks
Speaker 4: because he wasn't allowed to.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So when he got to New York. Yeah, when he
Speaker 4: got to New York, I told I called poister. I
Speaker 4: was like, yo, okay, your recommendation, I see. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Whenever whenever James or Ray angry or come on, I
Speaker 1: can't do the Tonight show that James Francis. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean he was young boy back then, but now you
Speaker 1: know he's one of his own gigs at Blue Note,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that sort of thing. I used to sneak
Speaker 3: him in the brook Brooklyn Bowl. Now, you know, I need.
Speaker 1: To say, like I went to school with like these
Speaker 1: young lions, Like when I was in school, like my
Speaker 1: third day of school, Di Francesco is getting pulled out
Speaker 1: by Miles Davis because like it'll be like, who was
Speaker 1: Miles's keyboard play?
Speaker 3: Was it Kenny Kirkland?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: Uh, which year before he passed away, like eighty six
Speaker 3: doing the tow To era.
Speaker 4: I think one of those guys wasn't Kenny the definitely
Speaker 4: one Kenny Kurt Okay.
Speaker 1: I forget it was, but you know I'll be like, yo,
Speaker 1: where are you going? And he'd be like, now it's
Speaker 1: sucking up again. So Miles is sending for me. I
Speaker 1: mean there's a typical that likes you know, Elis Marcellus
Speaker 1: come and take Christian Al school.
Speaker 3: For two weeks.
Speaker 1: You know, so like basically they were they were the
Speaker 1: young lions of my generation. But the thing was is
Speaker 1: that they were following traditional jazz right And obviously, I
Speaker 1: guess my introduction to.
Speaker 3: Your world was via Balau.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, and hearing Bloud break every rule
Speaker 1: of what song structure was, and I'm wondering, well, okay,
Speaker 1: and I asked. I was like, well, who's the who's
Speaker 1: the music version of you? Like who else is breaking
Speaker 1: the rules? And then I met all of you guys
Speaker 1: in a month or so, and I just never seen
Speaker 1: because I knew you guys were seen as jazz musicians.
Speaker 1: But I was always wondering if whether or not you
Speaker 1: get embraced by the jazz community, like would they let
Speaker 1: you play in reindeer games? Because you guys were looking
Speaker 1: at the rule books and sort of just throwing it
Speaker 1: out the window, like.
Speaker 3: Did you have to master it?
Speaker 1: Like did you have to sneak in the house first
Speaker 1: and sort of talk their language and d and then
Speaker 1: hold them hostage once you at your power?
Speaker 3: Like about that process.
Speaker 4: And you do that to that I'll tell you why.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you why because when I got to the
Speaker 4: New School in ninety seven for college, Yeah, I met
Speaker 4: Balal the first day of school. And we were like
Speaker 4: one of eight black people at the school, at the
Speaker 4: New School, at the New School, like in the jazz program. Yeah,
Speaker 4: what a lot of black people. Maybe exaggerating, maybe they
Speaker 4: were fifteen honestly, yeah, opposition to everybody was black. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so check it out.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 4: They put out a freshman in the room and they
Speaker 4: called you at random to come on the stage. They
Speaker 4: called me and Balao on stage at random together to
Speaker 4: play a song together.
Speaker 2: Wow, don't tell you what to play is just whatever,
Speaker 2: y'all know.
Speaker 4: You go there with a bunch of cat They called
Speaker 4: on drum, so and so on piano, Robert Glass, room vocal,
Speaker 4: Balo Oliver. We get up to play the song, we
Speaker 4: got off the stage. We looked at each other like, yeah,
Speaker 4: well do they give you a fake book? At least
Speaker 4: they're like what do you no, you just call tunes
Speaker 4: nopeposed to it? Yeah, Or you talk to each other
Speaker 4: and be like, you know this, now you know this,
Speaker 4: I don't know kind of you know, just like like
Speaker 4: you do at a jazz club.
Speaker 3: Now you know so and so. I think, so you
Speaker 3: figure it.
Speaker 4: Out, but whatever, remember what it was. I have no
Speaker 4: idea what it was. But when we got off me
Speaker 4: and we we were you know, you couldn't separate us
Speaker 4: after that because it was like, you know, he spoke
Speaker 4: a different language immediately, And so we began working on
Speaker 4: stuff together and one of the president of the school
Speaker 4: at the time, Arnie Lawrence, he passed away. He saw
Speaker 4: us and was like, you two have something. Y'all should
Speaker 4: go in and work on a demo for Balave and
Speaker 4: we were like, okay. So he said, my friend has
Speaker 4: a studio around the corner. Y'all can I talked to
Speaker 4: him already, y'all can go over there and kind of
Speaker 4: come up with some stuff. And his boy was Aaron
Speaker 4: colemas As spend doctors.
Speaker 3: Fucking spin doctors. They believe this story.
Speaker 1: When told me, I'm like, who were doing this?
Speaker 4: And I was like what, Yeah. So we were going
Speaker 4: over there after school every day just writing songs and yeah,
Speaker 4: a bunch of just jazz music is are on the
Speaker 4: album because we didn't know anybody that played anything else.
Speaker 4: We just knew the cats from the school. So that
Speaker 4: was Queen of Sanity the demo. Yeah, yes, Penny Sanity. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and y'all came just right. You and James came in
Speaker 4: there and redid it. Yeah, we did the drums.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was essentially when I when I heard that demo, Man,
Speaker 1: I you know again, I'm I'm happy to say.
Speaker 14: That my my my one record of the six demos
Speaker 14: I ever heard and listened to and became fans of,
Speaker 14: like they all became like something in the world of course,
Speaker 14: you know, Little Brothers, Jill Scott, Slum Village.
Speaker 1: But hearing that BELOWD demo, I don't know how it
Speaker 1: came across. I don't know who played it for me whatever,
Speaker 1: but I just I thought, this person.
Speaker 9: I remember you being about.
Speaker 3: Yeah much much of my detriment.
Speaker 1: If there's ever a recapping of the kind of Black
Speaker 1: Lily Roots Jam session story like in oral history or whatever, uh,
Speaker 1: my enthusiasm for wanting to work with Blaw definitely made
Speaker 1: Moan to Fuckers feel a certain way where because I
Speaker 1: mean basically every everyone had a job at this thing,
Speaker 1: and it was more like, Okay, I'm the money, you know,
Speaker 1: like so tour money back to the system, back to
Speaker 1: the you know, and I would make appearances every now
Speaker 1: and then, but it's like after working on you know,
Speaker 1: the stuff an Electric Lady and then coming back to
Speaker 1: do root stuff like I wasn't trying to like also
Speaker 1: do five hours at these jam sessions.
Speaker 3: But here in below sing man, I was just like,
Speaker 3: all right, I'll come. Yeah, yeah, so you know, just.
Speaker 4: Ye and those those jam sessions so blow. So we
Speaker 4: started working on the demo whatever, and me and him
Speaker 4: used to get on a bus from school and go
Speaker 4: down to Philly on Monday and Monday nights to the
Speaker 4: five spot Tuesdayesday, Tuesday, we should go to the bus
Speaker 4: and go we go stay at his mom's house in Germantown.
Speaker 4: That was my first times ever going to Philly. Just
Speaker 4: a week go to those jam sessions. And then y'all
Speaker 4: started coming to doing the ones at Lake Street.
Speaker 1: Yeah on a at uh which the theme is the
Speaker 1: spot uh Wetlands Wetlands.
Speaker 4: So seeing y'all play live. But I was always trying
Speaker 4: to get me to understand how to play y'all ship,
Speaker 4: and I didn't understand what the fuck he was talking about.
Speaker 4: He's like, you no, like you know, like, don't play
Speaker 4: it on, play it off? What like you know how
Speaker 4: to play, but you don't know how to play. What
Speaker 4: the are you talking about? No, nigga like like, and
Speaker 4: then I saw y'all live. And I saw James Poyser
Speaker 4: and I was like, so that made me. I kept
Speaker 4: going back, and then he would let me sit in
Speaker 4: with you. Yo, you would let me sit in you know.
Speaker 4: I was like, I was like, oh, I was jazz
Speaker 4: bread and I would sit in with y'all. And because
Speaker 4: of sitting in with you with the roots, that's how
Speaker 4: I learned how to play that ship. I didn't I
Speaker 4: never heard it. I didn't understand what it was.
Speaker 1: That's so weird to me because in my mind, you
Speaker 1: and all your Hustonians just have another relationship with time,
Speaker 1: with with meter in time that is beyond anything I've
Speaker 1: done or you know, dare I say at Dyla or whatever,
Speaker 1: like I I just I'd never seen. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: like watching the animaniacs in the water tower, Like you
Speaker 1: know when you see them running and help the smooth.
Speaker 1: That's a crazy analogy, like.
Speaker 3: That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like, but what I want to know is how did
Speaker 1: you force the jazz world to your will? Because I
Speaker 1: don't think that's I don't think that's an easy it's
Speaker 1: not task like that's that's what.
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing I always knew that I had
Speaker 4: to make sure that I could play jazz with the
Speaker 4: best of them before I decided to do anything else,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I had to Like.
Speaker 4: When Herbie played with Miles put his first few albums out,
Speaker 4: there was no you couldn't question Herb about ship, about
Speaker 4: can you play that? All that? That was always Soil five.
Speaker 4: There's no argument there. So when he did Headhunters, you
Speaker 4: cannot like it if you want to, but you can't
Speaker 4: dispute him as a jazz artist, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: as a jazz piano player, especially being black, they're so
Speaker 4: quick to want to call you a hip hop piano
Speaker 4: player or R and B player. They're really quick to
Speaker 4: not want to give you the title of that. So
Speaker 4: it was it was in my mind I was like,
Speaker 4: well no, even when I before I got signed, I said,
Speaker 4: in my mind I knew I was I want to
Speaker 4: do a few jazz albums first to shut these motherfuckers
Speaker 4: up who are gonna be talking? And then I want
Speaker 4: to do my other ship.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 10: It was almost like it reminded me of like the
Speaker 10: like Donald Bird. That's how I always kind of saw
Speaker 10: your career is like, yeah, Donald Bird, But then you know,
Speaker 10: he did his thing, but then when he got with
Speaker 10: the Moselle Brothers, Yep, it just became you know something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, exactly exactly, and that's my thing. I
Speaker 4: wanted to make sure. So then when that happened, my
Speaker 4: thing was just grabbing all the young people because I
Speaker 4: felt like jazz for young people anymore. And what made
Speaker 4: what made me get into jazz was Roy. Roy came
Speaker 4: to my Roy Roy came to my school and when
Speaker 4: I was in eleventh grade, I'll never forget it. He
Speaker 4: went there too, right, No, he went to the one,
Speaker 4: and he in Dallas with Erica. He went to the
Speaker 4: He went to Washington, Yeah, Norah Jones and the whole thing.
Speaker 4: So that was our rival. We rivaled them off time
Speaker 4: for all state jazz competitions and shit. So when Roy
Speaker 4: came to our school when I was in eleventh grade,
Speaker 4: he was already Warhard Grove album. So he came to
Speaker 4: the school and he had on like overalls and Tim's
Speaker 4: you know, and his band was black.
Speaker 3: I never seen that.
Speaker 4: I've never seen five young black guys that looked like me,
Speaker 4: dressed like me, talk like me up there playing jazz.
Speaker 3: That's never you never seen that.
Speaker 4: Because when you're in school, the pictures of jazz is
Speaker 4: what they give you, and it's all in black and white,
Speaker 4: and it's everybody has them a suit and it's not
Speaker 4: you know, it's nothing. It's nothing that has anything to
Speaker 4: do with you right now.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: So Roy made he completely changed my whole ship. So
Speaker 4: that's literally why I am the way I am now
Speaker 4: because I feel like I'm killing the stereotype, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. I feel like when people look at
Speaker 4: me a lot of times, they don't know they you
Speaker 4: don't know what the fuck I do, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? And when I was, you know, selling out
Speaker 4: the Blue Note and the Vanguard and all these places,
Speaker 4: white people will walk by me. I would be outside
Speaker 4: hang on my friend. They walk by me looking at
Speaker 4: me like what are you doing here? I'm like, well,
Speaker 4: actually come out right, you know. But them people on
Speaker 4: the bus, and a lot of that is like, you know,
Speaker 4: they don't know. They come to New York and get
Speaker 4: on the bus and they take you to where somebody
Speaker 4: famous is playing, you know what I mean. But they
Speaker 4: look at me and my je's and my T shirt
Speaker 4: and it's like, oh, we if I was walking down
Speaker 4: the street you think I'm a rapper or you think
Speaker 4: I'm whatever.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Don't think I'm about to hear and play still up
Speaker 4: by Starlight or actually play this piano the way I do,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And that's what I got,
Speaker 4: literally got that from Roy and that's what made kids.
Speaker 4: He inspired me so much because he looked like me.
Speaker 4: So I was like, that's what I want to do,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, I want to inspire the
Speaker 4: young cat. So I think when it came to the
Speaker 4: jazz world, I just ignored them and really went for
Speaker 4: the young people, you know what I mean, but still
Speaker 4: keeping the integrity of jazz, but making it to something
Speaker 4: where they could identify with, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And that's a while the Jazz war couldn't deny it anymore.
Speaker 4: They tried to.
Speaker 10: I think you have to do that though, because I think,
Speaker 10: you know, even like in all forms of music, you
Speaker 10: have to kind of, if not necessarily, appeal to the
Speaker 10: young people. You at least have to know how to
Speaker 10: communicate with them because they're the ones that's coming next.
Speaker 10: So if you want your thing to live on, you
Speaker 10: gotta get the youngins so they can be it on,
Speaker 10: you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Rapper in that conversation to like in a way where
Speaker 6: like his projects.
Speaker 3: I was going to ask kind I was going to ask.
Speaker 1: There was the jazz police of likeuch, when Marcella's all
Speaker 1: these cats, is there such thing as the jazz police?
Speaker 3: Like there's still people.
Speaker 4: Himself? Guy, Oh, that's okay, nigga.
Speaker 2: Jazz police.
Speaker 4: Oh, y'all didn't see it. Y'all didn't y'all didn't see it.
Speaker 2: Right years ago, Branford.
Speaker 4: Turncoat on you, nigga hold on, Branford, put put me out. Look,
Speaker 4: this happened maybe two years two years ago, maybe three
Speaker 4: years ago. Two years ago he did a uh he
Speaker 4: did an interview for one of them jazz magazine, maybe
Speaker 4: down Beat or something like that, And in the middle
Speaker 4: of the interview, they were like, so, Branford, what do
Speaker 4: you think about what people like Robert Glasper and Camassie
Speaker 4: Washington are doing? You know you did, but shot Lafunk.
Speaker 4: What do you think about Robert Glasper's doing? He said, well,
Speaker 4: you know, Jack Camosi, he's not a jazz he's not
Speaker 4: a jazz saxophone player. Just do him all the way over.
Speaker 4: Then he said and Robert. I mean, I'm glad he's
Speaker 4: doing what he's doing because he's he has delimited jazz
Speaker 4: vocabulary also, and then you ask him, he'll tell you
Speaker 4: the same thing. Those were literally his words, SI, Robert.
Speaker 3: Do you have a limited jazz?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 9: Heartbroken?
Speaker 4: What are you talking about?
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
Speaker 9: Do you not know who you are?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 10: So for the listener, if you have a limited jazz vocabulary,
Speaker 10: who hasn't unlimited?
Speaker 4: Who is that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: That was like, come on bro, like that now you're now?
Speaker 4: That was that was That's reckless. That's reckless. That's like
Speaker 4: you know he they didn't even ask him that. That
Speaker 4: wasn't even the question. He didn't ask do you think
Speaker 4: they're jazz musicians? Or do you think what they're doing jazz?
Speaker 4: They said you did bust shot lafunk. So they were
Speaker 4: literally speaking to crossing over ye And he took that time,
Speaker 4: took that little platform to put us down. Instead of
Speaker 4: being I'm like, oh well, ship Robert Glass with Black Radio.
Speaker 4: That's doing that's great. I'm happy, but something used to
Speaker 4: don't use that platform to shoot down the two top
Speaker 4: black instrumental jazz musicians that you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: why would you do that?
Speaker 1: Come on, brove, Frank McCombe, what do you think is required?
Speaker 3: I mean, you know every genre has there and they
Speaker 3: were disrespecting Branford. You know, just there's always the grumpy will.
Speaker 4: Go out Branford.
Speaker 3: I know he did that.
Speaker 2: I love him, y'all. Have you have you seen him?
Speaker 2: Y'all ran into each other.
Speaker 4: No, but before he said that, I ran to him
Speaker 4: at the club. But we had dreams he was playing.
Speaker 4: I went to see him play. I had had a
Speaker 4: night off in Seattle. He was playing. Me and Chris
Speaker 4: and a few other people went down there hung out.
Speaker 4: I'll always shown Brandford love. He's always actually shown him.
Speaker 4: We've been cool every time I see him. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But I just felt like, why not.
Speaker 2: If you was gonna say that, you could have said
Speaker 2: that to my face.
Speaker 4: You could have been said that to my face, bro
Speaker 4: no matter. In fact, I saw him at International Jazz Day.
Speaker 4: I saw me the National Jazz Day in Russia maybe
Speaker 4: two years ago something, and that, oh you know what,
Speaker 4: and we had a little oh you know, it's.
Speaker 15: All coming the National Jazz you know, you know that
Speaker 15: is like they they bring in a bunch of jazz
Speaker 15: musicians and and and they put it.
Speaker 4: They put you in a different country every year and
Speaker 4: to promote jazz, you know, and you do a concert
Speaker 4: together and they break you up a little groups and
Speaker 4: you do like one song. So we did the International
Speaker 4: Jazz Day thing and me and Brandford backstage is somebody
Speaker 4: came up and was like, so, what do y'all think?
Speaker 4: What makes jazz jazz? And we're talking about it, you know,
Speaker 4: and Brandford said, the space between the quarter notes. Okay,
Speaker 4: I was like, before it sounds what do you mean
Speaker 4: the space between the like literally the space between the
Speaker 4: quarter notes, like the space between us. So I was
Speaker 4: like the space between the court. So literally it's a
Speaker 4: mathematical thing, like if you do this space with this
Speaker 4: space recording, does that's We kind of got into a
Speaker 4: think about it because the answer he gave was like,
Speaker 4: come on, bro, like it sounds it sounded like witting.
Speaker 4: I mean, no one has the true aunt like the no,
Speaker 4: we don't.
Speaker 1: But there's nerds like me that wanted a scientific definition,
Speaker 1: and there's creatives like you that you know that will
Speaker 1: never have the right answer or whatever, Like I don't
Speaker 1: think any creative truly knows what the definition of what
Speaker 1: makes their art form tick.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah.
Speaker 4: Right, But then but we're having to just a discussion
Speaker 4: and I'm like, yo, we start talking about tunes. I said,
Speaker 4: so because this is not swing. We're talking about talking
Speaker 4: aout yet symbol everything. And it was like, so you're
Speaker 4: you're you're now defining a whole genre by a rhythm.
Speaker 4: So because it doesn't ting to day and ten today,
Speaker 4: it's not jazz. So what's red clay And he was like,
Speaker 4: not jazz, right, I said, so red Clayga.
Speaker 3: So this is this is trapped versus real hip hop.
Speaker 1: I get this, this is versus This is a long argument, right,
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 3: I get it for everybody.
Speaker 4: But for somebody who made by some of the funk,
Speaker 4: I just suspected something different. I expect a different answer.
Speaker 4: I just expect a different answer.
Speaker 2: But that was But again, that was twenty six years ago.
Speaker 4: That was And look, even though Winton went and innovated
Speaker 4: the music and then stopped, he did Black Codes and
Speaker 4: then stopped. Black Holds is such an innovative record. You know,
Speaker 4: Black Codes from the Underground, Black Codes from the Underground. Bro,
Speaker 4: It's like absolutely fucking incredible. You know, one of my
Speaker 4: favorite records of this absolutely absolutely you know, uh went
Speaker 4: and called me go ahead.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, go ahead, go back to that because he calls.
Speaker 4: You remember the whole nother ram. I don't know if
Speaker 4: you want to step into it, because now we want
Speaker 4: to know because it was because of the Lord Hill stuff.
Speaker 2: Come on, come on with the smoke.
Speaker 4: No went and called me. I was in Japan and
Speaker 4: never forget it. He called. He texted me and was like, Yo,
Speaker 4: is this Robert Glaswar. I was like, yeah, who's this?
Speaker 4: He was like this went and I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 4: what's up?
Speaker 3: How you doing?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 4: It's like, hey man, you know, I just wanted to
Speaker 4: call and tell you, you know, let this Lauryn Hill ship go.
Speaker 3: And I was like that's his first words to you.
Speaker 4: Ever, yes, you ain't going next ever on the phone.
Speaker 4: We don't talk on the phone. I don't talk to
Speaker 4: me on the phone. You know in.
Speaker 10: Japan, this ship is costing me extra money.
Speaker 2: Facing my dad and talk to me about this ship.
Speaker 4: He's like, let this Lauryn Hill shit go. First of all,
Speaker 4: I never drug it on. I said I did that
Speaker 4: ready interview, and I never posted about it. I never
Speaker 4: said anything about it ever again online. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. That READI to interview posted and I didn't
Speaker 4: put sh it on my I G. I didn't even
Speaker 4: put that radio on my face. But nothing. So he
Speaker 4: hit me with that let this go. And I was like, well,
Speaker 4: I'm not doing anything, but you know, the truth is
Speaker 4: the truth.
Speaker 3: I don't really know what you want me to do.
Speaker 4: He was just like, man, you know she's got all
Speaker 4: these followers and stuff, and you know you're not gonna
Speaker 4: win that battle, and I just think it's best if
Speaker 4: you just battle.
Speaker 2: I'm not battling.
Speaker 1: Wait, you're missing the most important part. When Marcellus knows
Speaker 1: who Lauren.
Speaker 9: Hill is what, Yeah, hairs as a whole other level too.
Speaker 2: You sall seven millionaires niggas.
Speaker 4: Know who to definitely dude, dude, first of all, Yeah,
Speaker 4: this lord, I never thought when left this jazz bubble.
Speaker 4: I know, I know, but that those things to bring up,
Speaker 4: that's crazy. That's what he texted me about our first
Speaker 4: text and only text to this day.
Speaker 9: Congratulations on you know.
Speaker 3: Your word?
Speaker 12: Uh?
Speaker 4: I told him, I said, but every time I saw him,
Speaker 4: every time I see him in person, and honestly, when
Speaker 4: I go see him play. He invites me up to play.
Speaker 4: He calls me up on stage and ship, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. So I don't have a beef for
Speaker 4: no real beef. Win you know, some of the things
Speaker 4: he says. It's like, come on, bro, you know, but
Speaker 4: he's fine. It's fine. And he's never thrown me under
Speaker 4: the bus in some interview, you know, or tried to
Speaker 4: do anything malicious, but you know, so we were texted
Speaker 4: about that, and then finally I was like, Yo, every
Speaker 4: time I see him, I say, I'm gonna get you
Speaker 4: on some hip hop ship. He was like, oh, bro,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm gonna just deal with the swing. I
Speaker 4: ain't down with the bitches and the niggas. And I
Speaker 4: was like, I said that, that's what I said. I said, Bro,
Speaker 4: all hip hop isn't like that. That's one little second
Speaker 4: him different styles of jazz. There's different kinds. And I say,
Speaker 4: if you ever checked out anything I've done, you don't
Speaker 4: hear that. He was like, you know, well, I don't know.
Speaker 4: We'll we'll, we'll see. But he always says that every
Speaker 4: time I see him, he's the great. It's like, come on, bro,
Speaker 4: that's not Yeah.
Speaker 5: It's so crazy when at one point you was a
Speaker 5: young dude like and Jack. Jazz beats are so funny
Speaker 5: to me. They've been happening for like just the beginning.
Speaker 2: It's just have you, have you? And have you and
Speaker 2: Lauren ever talked after that? Since posting black Radio, you know.
Speaker 4: Right, well you do it. Look but look hold on.
Speaker 1: And let me on that song so I can also
Speaker 1: ouve branch that moment to too.
Speaker 9: Yeah you got it, you got a men.
Speaker 4: You health feed the fire, Robert Glass, But Patty Beef,
Speaker 4: Patty Chef, you changed your Twitter your Twitter handle to
Speaker 4: Robert Glass Beef Patty Chefs.
Speaker 9: No healing, It's no healing, It's no The shocker is.
Speaker 3: A way Marcel Lauren Hill. Lauren Hill known social media Twitter.
Speaker 3: This is a great day.
Speaker 4: Look Ilmosa saw her at at uh what is the
Speaker 4: North Seat Jazz Festival. I literally was sitting outside and
Speaker 4: a bus pulled up and it was her tour bus,
Speaker 4: and all the cats came off like yo, rah blah
Speaker 4: blah blah. They were like, well, Lauren just got off
Speaker 4: at the other place. I was like, okay, cool, that
Speaker 4: would have been amazing if I haven't seen them since then.
Speaker 4: But my thing is my thing is that you saw
Speaker 4: her statement she wrote after that, right, it.
Speaker 1: Was so many where it was where emojis in it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, emoji's.
Speaker 4: Are shut and honestly, and I didn't know it was
Speaker 4: the twenty when I did that interview. I didn't know
Speaker 4: what the twentieth anniversary of fucking that the album the
Speaker 4: mis Education, Yes, I mean where the god And I've
Speaker 4: never talked that. My laurn Hill situation happened in two
Speaker 4: thousand and seven. We did this interview and what two
Speaker 4: thousand and six seven? Yeah, I've never said it out loud.
Speaker 4: On the interview, they asked me, what's the worst musical
Speaker 4: experience you've ever had? And that is the first, and
Speaker 4: that's the first one that ever comes to mind is
Speaker 4: working with Lauren.
Speaker 3: It was terrible.
Speaker 6: Poison to the truth, the poison text you.
Speaker 4: A lot of people text me, yeah, a lot of
Speaker 4: people text me like thank you, you know, thank you. Ship.
Speaker 4: We can't I can't say that ship, but thank you.
Speaker 4: A lot of cats was like good looks you know
Speaker 4: some of them cats, you can't. They can't.
Speaker 3: You know, I can say that ship.
Speaker 4: I'm good.
Speaker 3: Fuck you know, but you know, and.
Speaker 4: The other cats that she uses in that way don't
Speaker 4: have the platform and say ship, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So I felt like or the power to sation and
Speaker 4: my It wasn't me purposely coming at her. It was
Speaker 4: just that's what it was. And everything was truth, everything
Speaker 4: was fat, and everything's still happening, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So it's like.
Speaker 9: A whole gift to jazz in so many ways.
Speaker 6: Yo.
Speaker 4: You well look, I'm here, I'm serious. I thought about
Speaker 4: this the other day. I was like, wouldn't it be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the government.
Speaker 4: I thought about that though, would if would if we
Speaker 4: got her on Black Radio three.
Speaker 1: Look man, it's twenty twenty and we're running out of
Speaker 1: space on our Bengo cards.
Speaker 4: You produced it?
Speaker 3: What happened?
Speaker 4: You produce it?
Speaker 3: Listen? That would be crazy, bro, it.
Speaker 9: Was y'all come up with your idea.
Speaker 4: I'm down for it, yo, in a silly way, in
Speaker 4: a silly, weird way. I feel like there's a possibility
Speaker 4: it could possibly happen. I think it'd be dope. So
Speaker 4: because as an artist, I have nothing against her. She's
Speaker 4: fucking looking credible.
Speaker 9: You might have to extend your due date, but I
Speaker 9: think it could happen.
Speaker 4: That'll be Yeah, it'll definitely. It probably won't come out
Speaker 4: to a Black Radio nineteen, but it'll be.
Speaker 3: Back to the theme of the show and.
Speaker 5: As you're gonna be tround.
Speaker 4: Renewed optimism.
Speaker 9: No, it's gonna get done, noh, mirreor it's gonna get done.
Speaker 1: Listen as as a person that believes in manifesting positive
Speaker 1: energy and whatnot.
Speaker 3: Yes, we're gonna make it happen.
Speaker 1: I would love it, I will say, Lauren Hill, we
Speaker 1: are officially putting out the Olive branch.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the better the world was better with our
Speaker 1: artistic contributions. It's needed in the world right now.
Speaker 3: So actually, really is it really is?
Speaker 2: All right? So questions while we on optimism on the
Speaker 2: Lauren jail. Yeah, oh, I mean, if I'm still aloud, I.
Speaker 10: Got sixteen for you. Okay, ask question Brandy, and I
Speaker 10: want to ask you specifically, what is it like tracking
Speaker 10: her in the studio, tracking her vocals?
Speaker 4: Brandy might be the illest tracker I've ever seen. It's incredible, bro,
Speaker 4: I've never seen nobody phase himself out.
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you about that. I saw another interview.
Speaker 4: Three times in one in in the in the middle
Speaker 4: of doing optimistic, she phased herself out three times.
Speaker 3: That's how on top of her vocal she is with.
Speaker 4: That's how her vocal she is when she stats her
Speaker 4: ship is so exactly alike that she fakes the computer
Speaker 4: out and it makes you think you're doing the same
Speaker 4: the track again or some ship.
Speaker 10: You're not.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Because most people, when you read, when you sing something
Speaker 4: else and you sing it again, sing it again, let's
Speaker 4: stack it, there's always something different.
Speaker 2: It's always an imperfection, something and something.
Speaker 4: She's so dead on that shit. Phased the funk out
Speaker 4: three times, from the bread, from the breathing, from when
Speaker 4: she cut it off where the vibradis stop like everything
Speaker 4: is incredible, and she don't leave the booth to the
Speaker 4: fucking shit's done. It ain't like she come out and
Speaker 4: listen and vibe. She's like no, and she won't stop
Speaker 4: with the ideas. You have to stop her. No Brandy,
Speaker 4: no more vocal, no more stats, no harmony. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: she wants to get it. She's so enthusiastic about getting
Speaker 4: it right and just wanting to try more and more ideas.
Speaker 4: She's not a lazy singer at all. You know what
Speaker 4: I mean, Like, it's incredible work with her. Man, she
Speaker 4: has to be one of the nicest too, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. Like even when I did when she
Speaker 4: was on my Black Radio album before that, she paid
Speaker 4: for the studio time because she was late the other
Speaker 4: time or something like that. She couldn't make it, and
Speaker 4: she was like, yo, she paid for the studio time
Speaker 4: and she you know what I mean, I didn't even
Speaker 4: know where back then. You know, she's just this is
Speaker 4: such a nice, really really nice person.
Speaker 10: Black Radio on Black Radio two. Man, you had a record,
Speaker 10: it was. It was a lot of records on the
Speaker 10: album I Love. I really loved the Emily Sun Sandy
Speaker 10: joint that Yeah, I love.
Speaker 2: That's just a great song. Just the lyrics.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great, dude. She wrote that ship in twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: Are you serious?
Speaker 3: That song? That song?
Speaker 4: Originally Mary J. Blog was supposed to sing it, and whoa,
Speaker 4: I had lyrics and everything already done. But getting with
Speaker 4: Mary just always kept, you know, we couldn't make it happen.
Speaker 4: So I had the lyrics in the song. I even
Speaker 4: had the song sung by somebody else to you know.
Speaker 4: Emily was in town and she came by the studio
Speaker 4: and I played her the song and she was like,
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 4: She's like, do you mind if I changed the lyrics?
Speaker 4: I was like, no, do what you feel. She got
Speaker 4: a pin and pad out, walked around, wrote that joint
Speaker 4: like twenty minutes bro wow literally and put that ship
Speaker 4: down the record town for the Great Great Gatsby Premiere
Speaker 4: some ship.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, the record did with the Nora record that Mossino.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that joint.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: How did y'all you and Mossina like seeing the shot baby?
Speaker 10: That's like family? Yeah, and y'all's cover of god Resch
Speaker 10: you married gentlemen. Oh yeah, I need you to send
Speaker 10: me that I love.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: For years I kept doing I would do that with
Speaker 4: different artists. Every year I was. I would just pick
Speaker 4: an artist, hit them up, like yeah, you want to
Speaker 4: do a Christmas song together, you know, and I'll send
Speaker 4: them the music and then put some on it and
Speaker 4: we put it out. I did it with Due Power,
Speaker 4: I did it with Keim Bred a few different beatle
Speaker 4: just throw it out, thro it out there for you know,
Speaker 4: for fun. But that joint, the nor Jones joint. So
Speaker 4: me and Nora went to jazz camp together in high
Speaker 4: school in eleventh grade. Matter of fact, I'm here. You
Speaker 4: have something to do with this too.
Speaker 3: Wait, I'm a connector.
Speaker 4: You're a connector. You don't even know it. So uh.
Speaker 4: Me and Nor went to high to jazz camp together
Speaker 4: in eleventh grade. So that's where I knew her from then.
Speaker 4: When I got to New York, I saw her my
Speaker 4: freshman year at she was at my college in the
Speaker 4: practice room at my college, at the piano.
Speaker 3: I looked in him there. I was like, nourah and
Speaker 3: I walked in there.
Speaker 4: I was like, what are you doing? She's like She's like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm working on the demo. I was like, oh dope.
Speaker 4: Next time I saw her was on TV when of
Speaker 4: the damn Grammys. After that, After that, I sat in
Speaker 4: with the roots at Radio City. Remember you did the
Speaker 4: two nights at Radio City?
Speaker 3: Oh crap, I forgot, dude.
Speaker 4: That was one of the when people asked me some
Speaker 4: of my top moments being on stage of Crazy Ship.
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, we did.
Speaker 4: Remember when came.
Speaker 3: Yeah j He showed up.
Speaker 1: He didn't know that he could play Radio City musical dude.
Speaker 4: Never forget that ship where.
Speaker 3: Yeah and they got and and I never.
Speaker 4: Forget in the in the in theres you like jay
Speaker 4: Z's here and we did up, we did up boom, Yeah,
Speaker 4: we started playing. He walked out and had this back
Speaker 4: to the audience to the hoodie young and the lights
Speaker 4: is off. We started playing that line and no one
Speaker 4: knew he was coming. When we started playing that baseline
Speaker 4: the lights flash, he pulled his hoodie up like this,
Speaker 4: still with his back to the audience and then uh dude,
Speaker 4: when they when he turned to do the amount of
Speaker 4: like it was so crazy, bro Like, I'll never forget
Speaker 4: that moment. I'll never forget that moment. And that's where
Speaker 4: I met Dave too. That's where I met Chapelle too.
Speaker 4: I gave him piano lesson backstage at that show.
Speaker 3: Oh so you're the one that taught him.
Speaker 1: After Midnight, he's still.
Speaker 4: Still playing that ship he played. He did a solo
Speaker 4: piano at my Blue Note residency last October. He went
Speaker 4: on stage by himself and played rob Midnight on my
Speaker 4: piano by himself and thank you and walked.
Speaker 2: Playing that flight Twitter.
Speaker 10: He played that at party like He's.
Speaker 4: But anyway at that show, a regularly show after it,
Speaker 4: the after party thing upstairs or something like that. And
Speaker 4: I'm sitting on I'm sitting next to you, talking on
Speaker 4: next to somebody next to you, let me be one
Speaker 4: or two people over for you.
Speaker 3: And I reached for some.
Speaker 4: Ice and Nora was on the other side of you,
Speaker 4: and she reached for some ice, and that's what we were.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh no, what's up. And then we got
Speaker 4: these other changed numbers. And that's how we just kept
Speaker 4: kept in connection, you know, from that, you know, but
Speaker 4: she killed that joint.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I love Nora.
Speaker 4: I love hearing Nora in other situations. Her voice is
Speaker 4: so dope, you know.
Speaker 2: So I really love that song.
Speaker 4: It's really dobe. Let it ride, Yeah, Andina was sick.
Speaker 4: She didn't want to write it. I sent it to
Speaker 4: Messina and I said, and I didn't know who was
Speaker 4: going to sing it yet. I just I wrote the song,
Speaker 4: and I was like, need some lyrics, and I sent him, hey,
Speaker 4: write some to this, and I need I need to
Speaker 4: get it done by this week. I don't know who's
Speaker 4: going to sing it, but write it. And she was like,
Speaker 4: I'm really sick. I don't feel I said, write the
Speaker 4: damn song.
Speaker 2: Was writing a song.
Speaker 4: She's like okay, and wrote that joint and send it
Speaker 4: to me the next day. And then Nora came in.
Speaker 3: Who have you yet to? Uh? I guess for Phil
Speaker 3: Bucket list wise?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's everybody, but what close calls
Speaker 1: have you had with your projects that you didn't get
Speaker 1: a chance to work with?
Speaker 3: Yet?
Speaker 1: Don't say her name? As I was asking this question,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh God, no.
Speaker 4: Do you think I'm gonna say, oh, you don't remember
Speaker 4: the Oh? Yeah, mail the roof?
Speaker 9: Is that so hard? What she that's the mayor?
Speaker 1: Call her up?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like before Solon, Solon came through like a champ and she.
Speaker 2: Was gonna do that the little Dragon cover?
Speaker 4: Yes, wow, but what she doing?
Speaker 6: What's she doing with the mal doing?
Speaker 8: What?
Speaker 3: We try to make it?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, it didn't really work out, okay, so yeah,
Speaker 4: who else?
Speaker 9: Who else?
Speaker 1: Salon from?
Speaker 4: Look? I have a song in my computer. I did
Speaker 4: the song that need.
Speaker 3: The Baker.
Speaker 2: Was yo? Was it for the Blue Note album?
Speaker 5: That?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 10: Never?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 10: Because yeah, she did a cover of Lately by tyree
Speaker 10: which on paper sounds insane.
Speaker 2: Wait what, bro, you never heard.
Speaker 10: Anita Baker covered Lately by Tyrese And it is fucking
Speaker 10: amazing niggas.
Speaker 2: She bodied that ship.
Speaker 10: Oh, it's like it's the only it's like one of
Speaker 10: her only so if it's still on, because you know,
Speaker 10: not none of her shit on streaming, it's like one
Speaker 10: of the only joints of hers that's like on streaming services.
Speaker 4: That came out, that song came out.
Speaker 10: That song came out, that came out. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 10: she bodied that shit. Bro I like, I was like
Speaker 10: lately she covered lately niggah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I was.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: It happened because we were both on Blueou at the
Speaker 4: same time, and Don was was trying to hook us up,
Speaker 4: like he also hooked me out with Shaka Khan, and
Speaker 4: I was, I produced a half a record. I have
Speaker 4: four songs on Shaka. We're gonna do a whole word
Speaker 4: went in to do a whole album because he gave
Speaker 4: her Black Radio. It was like, just check this guy
Speaker 4: out to do your album because she was going to
Speaker 4: do a record with Blue Note. So she's like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, I love it. I met up with her
Speaker 4: boom boom. We went and did a week in La,
Speaker 4: did like four or five song and then her deal
Speaker 4: with Blue Note went. Some went left, so I got
Speaker 4: five songs of Shaka in my computer that I don't
Speaker 4: know ever gonna come out. But with Anita, she was
Speaker 4: working finishing that album. She was finishing it up, and
Speaker 4: I tweeted I was landing in La. I'll never forget it.
Speaker 4: I tweeted, I'm in La. Blah blah blah blah. She
Speaker 4: tweeted me, Oh, come by the studio.
Speaker 3: I was like, what.
Speaker 4: They're like, I neither. She was like, yeah, come by
Speaker 4: the studio and listen to some of the stuff I've
Speaker 4: been doing. Her son is a DJ. He goes to
Speaker 4: he at the time. He's like going to Berkeley. He's
Speaker 4: a big fan of mine. So you know that helps,
Speaker 4: you know, you know what I mean. So I went
Speaker 4: by the studio. She played me the album and she
Speaker 4: was like, what do you think? And I even fixed
Speaker 4: some stuff for keyboard parts and some stuff. She's like,
Speaker 4: you know, did some things on there. She was like, Man,
Speaker 4: if I would have known you were coming to town,
Speaker 4: I would have did a song with you. I said,
Speaker 4: don't play. I said, I write a song right now.
Speaker 4: I'm in town right now now. She was like, I mean,
Speaker 4: but I got to turn in this album in two days.
Speaker 3: I was like, I need it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, bro, Look, first of all, when I walked to
Speaker 4: the studio, she's making ribs. Let's just talk about this
Speaker 4: for a second. Black the blackness, unams. The vocal booth
Speaker 4: was next to the kitchen. It's the same studio, same studio,
Speaker 4: same studio. She did Angel in same studio. Angel all
Speaker 4: of the same.
Speaker 3: One because he's on Baver Glenn record, using that record.
Speaker 4: That's that's what that's well, back then when I did
Speaker 4: that song, that was three years ago when I did
Speaker 4: that song. When I did that, yes, so she had
Speaker 4: an oven mess and everything. You hungry, I'm making some ribs.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what ribs doesn't get you better? Anita Baker
Speaker 4: offered me ribs in the studio she did Angel.
Speaker 3: I'm good.
Speaker 4: So anyway, uh well she said that. I was like, Anita,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna write some for you right now. I lively
Speaker 4: went to the piano. I swear to god, I wrote
Speaker 4: some ship and like I live and breathe me. The
Speaker 4: Baker like, giving you the best that I got is why.
Speaker 4: That's one reason between giving you the best that I
Speaker 4: got between that my mom.
Speaker 2: Look, I mean like thrillers.
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, you and the fans always want
Speaker 1: to outdo someone, But I let you know that compositions
Speaker 1: is your record.
Speaker 2: That's the one man ship. That composition was a motherfuck.
Speaker 4: Look between that and and Luther Vandross albums. Matt Adley Jr. Yes,
Speaker 4: those were those sounds. Maybe want to play piano period like,
Speaker 4: because that's all we heard. I heard that in the
Speaker 4: house a lot. Anyway, I wrote the song like ten minutes.
Speaker 4: I went over Andre Harris's crib. I said, Yo, I
Speaker 4: need you to put some ship on here. As for
Speaker 4: the Baker was like cool, nigga, put drums, bass, guitar,
Speaker 4: did that in about an hour. We called Sir over.
Speaker 4: Sir came over to the crib and did his own
Speaker 4: ship and wrote the song, sang it down. We email
Speaker 4: her the song that night. She learned it that night,
Speaker 4: came to the studio, sang it down in one take, wow,
Speaker 4: and then said then said this to me. She said,
Speaker 4: only in my life three times has a song fit
Speaker 4: me like a tour address.
Speaker 3: This is the third.
Speaker 4: I didn't know what that.
Speaker 11: Ship was, all right, represent Yeah, anyway, she was like.
Speaker 3: What I was like, so so.
Speaker 4: Brother exactly that shoe popat No, not that sub but yeah,
Speaker 4: she said that. She was like, there was a thing
Speaker 4: that George Duke did for her, some kind of arrangement
Speaker 4: of something, and then I forget the other song, but
Speaker 4: she was like, this is the third She literally sung
Speaker 4: it down in one take, like.
Speaker 3: What where is it now?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Where in my computer?
Speaker 15: In that computer is talking to us on my computer
Speaker 15: talking to.
Speaker 6: Is it in that one?
Speaker 2: That computer in that computer with with email on it?
Speaker 2: Quick time? The quick time, that computer with a drum box, but.
Speaker 3: Triangle triangle every six hours with my air drop.
Speaker 4: Okay, my dream. I wanted. I'm going to hit her
Speaker 4: up because I wanted to. I want to see if
Speaker 4: I could use it for Black Radio three. That's why
Speaker 4: I yeah, yeah, I want to do it so bad.
Speaker 4: That's my hopes for George.
Speaker 2: You mentioned George. Did you if you and him before
Speaker 2: he died? Did y'all over her hook up or opened.
Speaker 4: Up for George? For like nine shows Europe? He never
Speaker 4: remembered me after any of the shows. You know, people
Speaker 4: like that, they up to the George, you know, And
Speaker 4: this was back in like I don't know, oh eight
Speaker 4: oh nine. You know, I was over like three years,
Speaker 4: so you know, I wasn't ship really, you know, so
Speaker 4: I'm not tripping because he's George dude, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. But after each show in different cities, I'd
Speaker 4: be like, hey, hey, misster, do how you doing. Man?
Speaker 4: He'd be like hey with that face, and I'd be like,
Speaker 4: I'm a rob. I played key keys early earlier before
Speaker 4: you start, every and every every night, every night. But
Speaker 4: you know he ain't coming to the sound, you know,
Speaker 4: to the the shows before him, so you know. But
Speaker 4: then we finally got to connect in a real way
Speaker 4: at International Jazz Day, not that one I talked about,
Speaker 4: but before, and it was in Turkey and me and
Speaker 4: him and Herbie like got a chance to hang out
Speaker 4: and sit down and talk and you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: chop it up and that and that's it. In that situation,
Speaker 4: passed almost he literally passed. I'm not the pair of them,
Speaker 4: but he literally passed a few us. I say, you know,
Speaker 4: play keys. He knew play keys as far as I got.
Speaker 4: But there he passed a few a few days, a
Speaker 4: few a few months later after that.
Speaker 3: All right, so who who is the the hero? Figure that?
Speaker 10: All?
Speaker 3: Right? There you go?
Speaker 4: Are you gonna say Herbie comes somebody?
Speaker 5: Herbie was just about to ask you what is it like?
Speaker 5: Because I mean the last show I went to with yours,
Speaker 5: you did this whole thing. He was like, oh, I'm
Speaker 5: about to go take a bathroom break and he was
Speaker 5: I'm half of my feeling for me real quick, and
Speaker 5: it was Herbie Headcock and I was like, what does
Speaker 5: that feel like to be you and that relationship with
Speaker 5: that man?
Speaker 4: Man, he's so awesome and he loves to he loves
Speaker 4: to be around because he you know, he got that
Speaker 4: from Miles I think, you know, just like you know,
Speaker 4: wanting to soak up the younger energy and just be
Speaker 4: around on that even that was always him. So yeah,
Speaker 4: that's my dude, man, Like I love Herbie. He's so
Speaker 4: open and cool, and he just pulls up like he
Speaker 4: always pulls up, pulls up to the shows, pulls up
Speaker 4: to my last record. He's on my last record, fuck
Speaker 4: your feelings because I was he just heard I was
Speaker 4: in the studio and just pull it up. I was like,
Speaker 4: oh ship, you know, okay cool And he pulled up
Speaker 4: to fucking Hinson and I was like, Yo, did you
Speaker 4: hear you wanna? No? No, no, no, you know, just speaking
Speaker 4: to your point me and Herbie talked maybe two three
Speaker 4: weeks ago. He said, this is the longest time he's
Speaker 4: ever gone without touching his piano. Oh wow, he said.
Speaker 3: He's in the same funk. He was like, man, I'm
Speaker 3: not even that.
Speaker 4: I don't feel like, you know, He's like, I've never
Speaker 4: gone seven months or wherever long it's been when I'm
Speaker 4: touching my piano. He's like, it's just sitting there. He's like,
Speaker 4: he's just it's just sitting there, you know.
Speaker 1: You know, so you gotta take a break, you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta take a break and then come back to it.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, I think it's different for keyboard
Speaker 1: players now because of the the the advanced way that
Speaker 1: technology moves in your world, Whereas at least with me personally,
Speaker 1: like I'm not too interested in you know, like new drums,
Speaker 1: and you know, the company always be like, you know,
Speaker 1: these are special trees that we used in Japan to
Speaker 1: make it, you know, And I always tell them like,
Speaker 1: give me the trashy the high school set.
Speaker 4: It's all in your touch anyway. It's all your touch anyway.
Speaker 1: Right, So as far as being a are you a
Speaker 1: gear head or are you just using the same.
Speaker 4: I am not, you know what, because when people were
Speaker 4: doing gear ship, I was just practicing on being really
Speaker 4: good at the piano, you know what I'm saying. I've
Speaker 4: never because my whole thing was always acoustic piano. So
Speaker 4: that's been my thing for such a long time. Even
Speaker 4: when I got signed a Blue Note piano trio, shit
Speaker 4: acoustic piano. It wasn't even keyboards. Yeah, I wasn't even
Speaker 4: using keyboards for a while. They're putting piano acoustic pianos
Speaker 4: and clubs for me because I didn't want to play
Speaker 4: jazz clubs anymore. I want to play cool shit hip
Speaker 4: hop venues and shit like that. And I was trying
Speaker 4: to get grand pianos in there. So Stein would put
Speaker 4: pianos in there for me and shit, but a lot
Speaker 4: of times that sound would be fucked up. It wouldn't
Speaker 4: sound good, you know what I mean. And so I
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, let me get the key let me
Speaker 4: do the keyboard thing. But I've never really been a
Speaker 4: gearhead at all. People think I am for some reason,
Speaker 4: but to me.
Speaker 10: It always seemed like I think that's the gearhead thing
Speaker 10: is more so for people who think of themselves as
Speaker 10: producers first or right, you always kind of seem like.
Speaker 2: A player, you know, primarily.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, know, we need strings. I know a
Speaker 4: string player that can do that, like we did when
Speaker 4: we fucking did the twice. You know, AMR wasn't like
Speaker 4: Gil pull the string sounds. He called some cellos and violence,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. We know those guys. We
Speaker 4: don't need the patch. I know them. I'm always that,
Speaker 4: you know, and all the patches they're like, but it
Speaker 4: sounds real. This one sounds realer than that one. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I know, real people, real people, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 9: I would imagine, now, keep a musician's employed. That's dope.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And obviously obviously you got to tap into it
Speaker 4: a little bit because you can't just get musicians like
Speaker 4: this anymore, especially now. So that's why now I've been
Speaker 4: even tappingto it, tapping into just sounds and getting all
Speaker 4: the plug ins and stuff like that, even even if
Speaker 4: it's for demo demo's sake, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: I'll do stuff like that. But I'm just such a
Speaker 4: live person. That's just my thing, you know.
Speaker 1: I would imagine, like, you know, I'll say, like maybe
Speaker 1: what Steve, like once every four months the rolling guy
Speaker 1: comes in with you toys.
Speaker 3: And whatnot, and we're like, oh.
Speaker 1: This is like Christmas all over again. Like I'm certain
Speaker 1: that every keyboard maker from Yamaha, Toro, like all these
Speaker 1: guys are like I was off to you try our product.
Speaker 4: Well here here's the thing though. I was on Yamaha
Speaker 4: for a long time, but there wasn't giving me that
Speaker 4: love you were talking about. I was like, hey, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: because I'm like, yo, why am I having to call
Speaker 4: the MD for Alicia Keys to get to the head
Speaker 4: of Yamaha Keyboards. I'm actually a keyboard player, but I
Speaker 4: have R and B, Grammys and hip. I'm Grammys and ship.
Speaker 4: I'm here. Hey, this works for you guys, you know.
Speaker 4: But the mds of the people get those people get
Speaker 4: those looks, and I'm like, yo, but I'm an actual
Speaker 4: panel player, like you know what I mean, Like I
Speaker 4: should get those looks, and I wasn't getting them. So
Speaker 4: I left and and like you said before, everybody else
Speaker 4: is like yo, for for years wanted to me. So
Speaker 4: I'm on Core now, you know, and they treat me
Speaker 4: they're great. I have to stop them from giving me shit.
Speaker 4: You're right, I do. Yeah, how many.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is is that when keyboards are manufactured
Speaker 1: and they put all those patches inside of one thing, like,
Speaker 1: does it matter how much product they make? Like, isn't
Speaker 1: it just the same version.
Speaker 4: Of basically, But for me, what interested me in keyboards
Speaker 4: initially too was because I started needing to use a
Speaker 4: keyboard on the road when I was playing my shows,
Speaker 4: and I needed something that felt good, that felt close
Speaker 4: to a piano as possible, and that sounded as close
Speaker 4: to a piano as possible. So that's when I became
Speaker 4: interested in plugins and interested in different keyboards because you know,
Speaker 4: but so the one I have now, the one I
Speaker 4: use now, the Chronos, feels the best when it comes
Speaker 4: to me having to get around like that, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, like really get around. So for me,
Speaker 4: it was always that what felt the best because at
Speaker 4: my shows, yeah, I use a piano and I always
Speaker 4: have offender roads and then I have something on top,
Speaker 4: you know, some kind of like I have a smaller
Speaker 4: Crogos on top for my extra little sounds here and now.
Speaker 4: For for years I didn't have to do a lot
Speaker 4: of sounds because I had Casey Benjamin, he had a
Speaker 4: million sounds, and this.
Speaker 10: Ship right right right, Yeah, I remember we did that
Speaker 10: gig at that sound was a rouge ago and he
Speaker 10: was I think you were playing you were you playing
Speaker 10: the lead, the door, lead, the red Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think we were playing that night and Casey had
Speaker 2: yeah all the million.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I'm not. I'm just not. I'm not really
Speaker 4: interested in a lot of sounds. I like piano, I
Speaker 4: like roads, like a few leads and a pad every
Speaker 4: now and then. But I like to you know, I
Speaker 4: know those guys who are great at those sounds, and
Speaker 4: I even hire those guys to come do sounds. Hey,
Speaker 4: you want to make some sounds, you do that. It
Speaker 4: freezes me up. It frees me up to just do
Speaker 4: what I want to do.
Speaker 10: You know, Hey, I was just gonna ask you about
Speaker 10: the Miles project that I was like honored fucking be on,
Speaker 10: like to log into my ass cap and see a
Speaker 10: song and it's fun take ovid Miles Davis, like nigga,
Speaker 10: what you know what I'm saying, like for like for real,
Speaker 10: for real, like so yeah, I mean I've told you
Speaker 10: this a billion times.
Speaker 2: I just want to say, in front of myody brother,
Speaker 2: thank you so much.
Speaker 4: For sure, for sure.
Speaker 10: But but Noah, Man, I wanted to ask you, like,
Speaker 10: so when they give you just carte blanche and say
Speaker 10: all right, do whatever, how I guess how much of
Speaker 10: an undertaking is that and how involved is his family
Speaker 10: in that? And you know kind of you know, making
Speaker 10: sure that you know that ship has done tastefully or whatever,
Speaker 10: Like what was that process?
Speaker 2: Like, man, just doing that everything album? It Actually it
Speaker 2: was a nephew.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, it was Vince, his nephew.
Speaker 4: And I've been on Vince for years and he's always
Speaker 4: he's fan of the music, and he you know, he
Speaker 4: knows that I'm I shadow a lot of what Miles
Speaker 4: already did and I and I think like that and
Speaker 4: I look see what you know. So he hit me
Speaker 4: up about it. First, I was doing the score for
Speaker 4: the movie. I was in the middle of that John
Speaker 4: OUs Ahead. I was already in the middle of the movie.
Speaker 4: And then Sony hit me up about doing that doing
Speaker 4: the because it was about to be his ninetieth birthday
Speaker 4: or something. I think at that time it's going to
Speaker 4: be his ninetieth birthday. And they were like, we want
Speaker 4: to do a remix album, blah blah, and I was like,
Speaker 4: I'll only do it if it's I don't want to
Speaker 4: do a remix album, Like I'm not interested in putting
Speaker 4: some Miles trumpets over hip hop, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like that's been done. I want to do that.
Speaker 4: I said, the only way I'll do it is if
Speaker 4: you let me in the vault and let me take
Speaker 4: what I want. And they were like, okay, So they
Speaker 4: gave me eight hours. I was in the vault eight
Speaker 4: hours of the vault.
Speaker 2: Well, I thought you been eight hours to do the album.
Speaker 4: I was like, God, damn, no, no, no, they gave
Speaker 4: me eight hours of the vault.
Speaker 3: That's way too little, way too little.
Speaker 4: I took as much as I possibly could in that
Speaker 4: time because they didn't want to let me in the
Speaker 4: vault originally, you know what I'm saying. But it was
Speaker 4: like a back and forth from my people there people,
Speaker 4: and then they finally like, okay, we'll give you eight hours.
Speaker 4: You know how much unreleased Miles was in there. I
Speaker 4: have a lot of ship.
Speaker 3: What were they what?
Speaker 4: What what were you taking?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: How you doing?
Speaker 3: Well? What?
Speaker 7: What what were you taking m P three's tapes talking about.
Speaker 3: No just P three ship?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 4: I brought my hard driving and they were just like,
Speaker 4: take what you want? What do you want to pull up?
Speaker 10: Now?
Speaker 3: What iut gonna pull up now?
Speaker 4: But uh, you know some digitized and some stuff was
Speaker 4: to track what you can't do much with. But then
Speaker 4: they had ship that was like eight tracks and cursing out.
Speaker 4: I got so much. I got yeah, I got that
Speaker 4: got him. I got him talking ship, cussing out talking
Speaker 4: to Ron Carter when he was trying to learn from
Speaker 4: them jazz dance.
Speaker 3: Wait, I wait, did I share this previously?
Speaker 1: On another I found out something that I don't think
Speaker 1: the jazz world is aware of. I was recently told
Speaker 1: by a lot of jazz I had to ask at
Speaker 1: least six of them. I did not realize that Ron
Speaker 1: Carter does not know how to solo good. So someone
Speaker 1: someone brought this up to me when I was asking my, my, my, other,
Speaker 1: my older jazz heads about stuff. And to them, they're
Speaker 1: baffled that one of the most iconic hip hop samples
Speaker 1: and they're referencing the McCoy teimer sample for the choices
Speaker 1: yours with Ron Carter, and Ron Carter is on base
Speaker 1: doing that, and I guess the the whole thing is
Speaker 1: that they're laughing at the irony that the world's worst soloist,
Speaker 1: and I was like, blasphemy. Right now, They're like no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Ron's a perfect foundation for music. But if you notice
Speaker 1: he Miles never gave him a solo on any of
Speaker 1: his records. And I was like, I don't believe his ship.
Speaker 1: And then I went back and for a whole month
Speaker 1: listened to every Miles Davis.
Speaker 3: Couldn't find one.
Speaker 4: If there's anything, it was just walking so low. If
Speaker 4: there was one, it was just was one like there was.
Speaker 3: He was there just ass foundations, I exactly. And then
Speaker 3: when I was like, wait a minute, why is that so?
Speaker 1: Because Ron Carter is just like he's like, no, this
Speaker 1: is y'all fault is that's tribe fault y'all.
Speaker 3: May y'all may be.
Speaker 1: Worst music shit Miles Davids arsenal King, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is blasphemy. But I didn't realize, like how do
Speaker 1: you judge? Maybe I don't know, Like, yeah, how do
Speaker 1: you know if a cat is real or not?
Speaker 4: Well, that's it depends on the instrument, because the reality
Speaker 4: is no, most people don't want to hear bas solo anyway.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you, Christian McBride. You went to school
Speaker 4: with the most incredible bass soloist in the history of
Speaker 4: jazz music, so you have a different outlook on it.
Speaker 3: But most people don't want to hear.
Speaker 7: That's when you go to the bathroom man.
Speaker 4: All that that's the joke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I now I believe that Chris is I
Speaker 1: mean next a mingus Like I feel like Chris is
Speaker 1: the god of jazz bass.
Speaker 3: So maybe I am sported.
Speaker 4: But period, there has no never been a soloist like
Speaker 4: Christian McBride. That's not even that's not even up for debate.
Speaker 4: There's not one person that's even close to it. Jazz
Speaker 4: based soloists like McBride is. No one gets around like that.
Speaker 3: It's true.
Speaker 4: No bass player makes other instruments scared to play after them,
Speaker 4: except Christian McBride when they solo. I've had this conversation
Speaker 4: with all everybody. He's the only bass player that when
Speaker 4: he solos, you're like, what a what am I going
Speaker 4: to play? You know what I'm saying? Like most based
Speaker 4: most basics stay in their base range and they don't
Speaker 4: have much vocabulary. Because you don't you don't get to
Speaker 4: work out as much, you don't get to sol us
Speaker 4: much you have the one based solo in a set
Speaker 4: at best, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But everybody else, that's what you do.
Speaker 1: Your job is just so without you, without you throwing
Speaker 1: your contemporaries under or your idols under. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: always wanted like and this is where because comedians have
Speaker 1: a whole nother standard. I I guess I have a
Speaker 1: you know, like when I criticize Kanye's patches, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: his drum patches or whatever. And even Kanye him something
Speaker 1: now I feel like he'll tell you, but it's just like,
Speaker 1: you know, I hear people just dismiss it as like,
Speaker 1: oh you have like dog with sole ears, like you
Speaker 1: hear something that we can't hear. But right, you know,
Speaker 1: when I hear a producer, I could tell like based
Speaker 1: on their you know, the way that they chop their
Speaker 1: their patches and what they use and their arrangement and
Speaker 1: their tone and all that stuff. You know, stuff that
Speaker 1: I can hear that the average person can't hear.
Speaker 3: But yeah, how do you know?
Speaker 1: Like my dad would know how good a musician was
Speaker 1: based on how they play ballad. He makes them play
Speaker 1: a ballot and he's like I can instantly tell who
Speaker 1: is good and who's not good when you play, when
Speaker 1: you give them the easiest shit in the world to
Speaker 1: play and they fall apart in front of me.
Speaker 4: So what d Yeah, no, that's a good one too.
Speaker 4: Especially as the piano player. When you play a ballad,
Speaker 4: you're exposed because now it's it's really about your touch
Speaker 4: and there's the space there. So what how much knowledge
Speaker 4: do you have to fill up that space? What? What
Speaker 4: can you do to fill up that space? A lot
Speaker 4: of people feel and be tasteful about it. A lot
Speaker 4: of people feel like, especially piano players, they feel like
Speaker 4: when I go to shit like or stuff like that,
Speaker 4: a million piano players, everybody's trying to play.
Speaker 3: I went one.
Speaker 4: I went twice in my life. I had to go
Speaker 4: over the last. I did a thing for Corey just
Speaker 4: read recently. I did a show there for Corey And
Speaker 4: so dude, it's yeah, you already know anyway. Yeah, everybody
Speaker 4: wants to play the fastest thing they possibly can, giant
Speaker 4: steps or some shit like that. And then when you
Speaker 4: play fast, you don't have to have touch, not about touch,
Speaker 4: not about this, not about that, and it goes by
Speaker 4: so fast and not paying attention. But with piano players,
Speaker 4: you can, like I can sit down, I can see
Speaker 4: a piano player sit down, and in five seconds I
Speaker 4: can know what I'm about to hear. Sometimes I can
Speaker 4: do it just by your posture and what you while
Speaker 4: you hold your hands. A lot of times I can tell, okay,
Speaker 4: you actually don't play jazz. You have to play church organ,
Speaker 4: but you're playing piano today. Like for instance, you see
Speaker 4: me play organ, you think I don't play keys because
Speaker 4: I suck at orgon. I know. I know Chedrick Mitchell
Speaker 4: and Krey Henry and James Poison, these kinds of cat
Speaker 4: not an organ player.
Speaker 3: There's a difference in the technique.
Speaker 1: It's a different so that Corey does like that, you
Speaker 1: would have to practice a lot to get to that
Speaker 1: one hundred.
Speaker 4: When he plays chords not lines, is different, Like lines
Speaker 4: on organ are easy because the key is the plastic
Speaker 4: and there's no weight. A real piano has weights, So
Speaker 4: you can when you can tell somebody's real chops when
Speaker 4: to play a piano because that's when the weight's there,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Yeah, if you're slow on organ,
Speaker 4: you're I can't help you because it's a plastic key.
Speaker 4: You just supposed to be fast, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But Corey, Yeah, any organ player that's really good moving
Speaker 4: from chord to chord, it's a fucking spider technique. Like
Speaker 4: everything has to be connected, and you voice things different
Speaker 4: because you're used to having bass pedals, So your voicings
Speaker 4: up here are different. Piano players, are you not used
Speaker 4: to having bass pedals? We have to play base here,
Speaker 4: so our voicings are different to make it full, because
Speaker 4: we have to make it full here. Organ players have
Speaker 4: the pedals, so they're the just there the cord. The
Speaker 4: structure of the chord is still to be like what
Speaker 4: the hell hell you know, so immediately you could tell
Speaker 4: what that somebody plays by like sitting sitting down, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And yeah, and the vocabulary is
Speaker 4: super easy to tell immediately.
Speaker 10: You know that roads players is another thing too, like
Speaker 10: I know, like yeah, that's a whole other thing, like yeah, roses.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, everybody that plays piano can't play roles and
Speaker 4: vice versa, and like all those the different touches and
Speaker 4: different vibes and like.
Speaker 1: One, so what's your accordion game? Like I'm crazy on accordion.
Speaker 1: I'm crazy on the Courdon talking about I do know
Speaker 1: one that's amazing though. I used to see him with
Speaker 1: Jeff Tay Watts on Monday Nights at the Z Bar
Speaker 1: years ago, really Accordion and and tag. He was smashing
Speaker 1: bro Wait a minute for the guy. How how does
Speaker 1: it feel to be the person that got Malcolm Jamal
Speaker 1: Warner his first gram?
Speaker 3: Wrong?
Speaker 4: Funny?
Speaker 3: You know what's crazy about that?
Speaker 4: Though? That wasn't supposed to have most of my stuff
Speaker 4: on black Radio. I'll tell you everybody all the time.
Speaker 4: It's like, whenever I make an album, the universe is
Speaker 4: always a co producer because it never goes how I
Speaker 4: wanted to go all the way and I know that.
Speaker 4: I know that going in and I'm okay with it
Speaker 4: because great things, better things have happened because the universe
Speaker 4: is like, look, nigga, this is what's gonna happen. So
Speaker 4: she'll the fuck this is can't do shit about it.
Speaker 4: So when I did the Song of Jesus Chows of America,
Speaker 4: it was it was and and and old to the
Speaker 4: children of the Sandy Hub tragedy. That morning of the
Speaker 4: actual tragedy. I was doing it Stevie tribute. I believe
Speaker 4: I'm me or you came and sat in. Was it
Speaker 4: that that day or the next day. We did two
Speaker 4: nights at Harlem stage of a Stevie Wonder tribute.
Speaker 3: Damn man, I need you around just to remind me
Speaker 3: of shit. Yes, yes, yes, and you can and I'm here.
Speaker 3: Came by.
Speaker 4: It might have been so two nights. The first night
Speaker 4: was of that day that the TRACTI happened another night
Speaker 4: and you came one of those nights. I can't remember
Speaker 4: which one. And that was my first time doing that
Speaker 4: arrangement of Jesus Children of America with Leila for for
Speaker 4: for them. And there was that that day when that happened.
Speaker 4: I woke up and my good friend Jimmy, Jimmy Green,
Speaker 4: his daughter was killed in that. Oh wow, Jimmy was
Speaker 4: the first Jimmy.
Speaker 3: She was the first grade a few times. Yeah, she
Speaker 3: was the first grade.
Speaker 4: And so that fucked me up because I have at
Speaker 4: this point, I have a son, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, ship, she hits you hardly when you
Speaker 4: have kids. Things that happened with kids. If you don't
Speaker 4: have kids, it's one thing. When once you have a kid,
Speaker 4: it's whole. No, I can't even watch movies the same.
Speaker 4: You know, when you have a kid, everything different like
Speaker 4: oh ship. So anyway, fast forward, when Black Radio Time
Speaker 4: came around, I told Laila, hey, I want to do
Speaker 4: Jesus Chris in America. You know, She's like okay. She
Speaker 4: came in and as usual as she did for the
Speaker 4: shady song, mhm cherish today was one take. He was
Speaker 4: reading the lyrics on her phone. It was actually it
Speaker 4: was the sound check she was right beforehand. She said,
Speaker 4: mike check one two, Mike check one too. That's why
Speaker 4: I faded it in because right before that she was
Speaker 4: checking the mic and that take you here is the
Speaker 4: sound check. So when she finished, she was like, okay,
Speaker 4: I'm ready. I was like, thanks, we're good.
Speaker 2: No, that was it. That was it.
Speaker 4: She had the same thing for Judis CH's America Jesus
Speaker 4: Chosen in America. She came in, did that shit one time,
Speaker 4: one take. I don't have bonus tracks of Layla. I
Speaker 4: don't have bonus shit of Layla because she just doesn't
Speaker 4: want to take it. I'm good. I'm like, I'm good.
Speaker 4: And anyway, we did the song, and in my mind
Speaker 4: I was going to get Jimmy Green to do a
Speaker 4: poem for his daughter in that song, you know, in
Speaker 4: the actual song. And so I was reaching out to
Speaker 4: him and you know, trying to see if you want
Speaker 4: to do it. And my other friend who was really
Speaker 4: close to the otis, was like, man, this is not
Speaker 4: a good time for Jimmy, you know, blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: So he couldn't do it. Malcolm had hit me and like, yo,
Speaker 4: I want to come hang out at the studio next
Speaker 4: time you're the studio. So I hit Matholm like, yo,
Speaker 4: we'll come hang out the I'm doing something mixes of
Speaker 4: songs blah blah blah, and we started mixing Jesus in
Speaker 4: America and I told him. I was like, I was
Speaker 4: trying to get a poem on here. He was like, dude,
Speaker 4: you I'm anna poet right.
Speaker 3: I was like, I forgot about that.
Speaker 4: He was like, he was like, bro, give me a
Speaker 4: stab at it. I'm gonna go. I'll go write something
Speaker 4: right now. Give me a stab. You don't have to
Speaker 4: use it if you don't want it. He went to
Speaker 4: the we're in We're in Westlake and he went upstairs,
Speaker 4: took it like an hour, wrote it, came down, spit it,
Speaker 4: and then that was it that was it surprised Yeah, bro, yeah, bro.
Speaker 4: But a lot of those things were black Radio. That's
Speaker 4: how black Radio actually album. The actual album. I canceled
Speaker 4: it like four times because it was too hard to make,
Speaker 4: because nobody's schedule was lining up. So I literally said
Speaker 4: fuck it, we'll do it next year or some shit
Speaker 4: four times, and then out of the blue, my manager
Speaker 4: hit me, I was on tour. I was on tour
Speaker 4: with my band, and my manager hit me like, I
Speaker 4: don't know what happened, but every guest is available next
Speaker 4: week in l A.
Speaker 2: And this is red one or two one one one
Speaker 2: in l A.
Speaker 3: Everybody's available. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, ship, So yeah, it might have been.
Speaker 3: It might have been. It might have been. Everybody was
Speaker 3: February is where you catch all year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like, oh ship, Okay, So I canceled
Speaker 4: my tour and I flew I flew in, and I
Speaker 4: flew right and I went right to, uh, what's the
Speaker 4: girl King's house?
Speaker 3: That was when King.
Speaker 4: When they had a little and I here you were
Speaker 4: like talking about King and Erica. My friend Megan, she
Speaker 4: was happening to kind of be managing them at the time,
Speaker 4: and she was, and I told her. I was like, man,
Speaker 4: I want to get them on the record. I think
Speaker 4: that'd be dope. They got some fire now talking moved
Speaker 4: love and I went to their house and I to
Speaker 4: meet them and to write the song. And they happen
Speaker 4: to have a washer and dryer, and I had just
Speaker 4: came from Europe. I went stretching that crib.
Speaker 2: I got launched, and I was like, nigger.
Speaker 4: I wrote some chords and I said, okay, y'all finish it.
Speaker 4: I went to the laundry room and did laundry while
Speaker 4: they were writing a song. And in the middle of that,
Speaker 4: I had Loupe come over to their house to meet
Speaker 4: up with him to give him the idea I had
Speaker 4: for him to do what he's gonna do for the record.
Speaker 4: And then I had Most come over a little bit later.
Speaker 4: So they were freaking out. They were like, what, oh
Speaker 4: my god. You know, Most came over a little bit
Speaker 4: later so I could tell him, Hey, this is what
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about doing blah blah blah blah tomorrow when
Speaker 4: you come to you know, blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: But that's and then literally that's just how that happened.
Speaker 4: That that process was black Radio one was a five
Speaker 4: was five days of recording, and then Black Radio two
Speaker 4: was like six days of recording.
Speaker 2: You know, man on Black Radio two. We have to
Speaker 2: ask a guest that we had earlier was music Lord
Speaker 2: Jesus does music like ah yeah, oh, because.
Speaker 3: A little's a real gall that.
Speaker 2: You don't like it what he says, you don't like you.
Speaker 2: So he has a he has a very complex relationship
Speaker 2: with his back catalog.
Speaker 4: Okay, when we had.
Speaker 10: Him on the show, we didn't specifically ask him about
Speaker 10: this song. So no, he didn't slander. Now, we didn't
Speaker 10: ask about this song. But no, that ship as hard
Speaker 10: as fuck.
Speaker 2: But like, what was there? Was it like recording that?
Speaker 2: Did he into it?
Speaker 4: Or what was it he loved? Matter of fact, last
Speaker 4: time I saw him live, I was just happen to
Speaker 4: be in Oakland and I saw he was at Yo
Speaker 4: She's and I just walked in and he was playing
Speaker 4: all yeah, he was singing he liked it, you like it?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's another universe. That's another universe thing. Because
Speaker 4: I flew to Atlanta, I did the music already. I
Speaker 4: flew to Atlanta so he could write the song. And
Speaker 4: we went to the studio, and that's why he liked it.
Speaker 4: The first night, the first night we were in the studio,
Speaker 4: he came up with the hook and oh blah, there
Speaker 4: were We had another night. So the next day, matter
Speaker 4: of fact, you have something to do with this Fonte.
Speaker 4: We never talked about this.
Speaker 3: Okay, because I'm tired of I know, I think I
Speaker 3: know what this is.
Speaker 2: If it's okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3: I was in Atlanta and the.
Speaker 4: Next day you, for an exchange, was having a show
Speaker 4: at some festival or something in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Yo, that's right, because we hit you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you came on stage and I came sat in
Speaker 4: with y'all.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah that It was dope as fun, I remember.
Speaker 4: And Christte Michelle was there. I think she played after you,
Speaker 4: Yes she did. I stopped for seven I didn't. First
Speaker 4: of all, don't I'm.
Speaker 9: I love all of black radio. I love all black radio.
Speaker 2: Because that was that was shout out to jo dene
Speaker 2: On that Jodine hit me. Jody, she hit me.
Speaker 10: Because at the time our keyboard player and mb Zoo
Speaker 10: he had like another gig. He has something to do.
Speaker 10: It's like the only f gig you ever ever missed,
Speaker 10: And and she was like yo, Joe name was like yo,
Speaker 10: so Robert, would you mind if he just come up?
Speaker 10: I was like rob ro was She's like glass.
Speaker 4: I was like hell yeah, yes, yeah, that's my nigga.
Speaker 2: Tell me to come on.
Speaker 3: And so from that is it.
Speaker 4: From sitting in with you, Chrissette saw me. It was
Speaker 4: like I saw her after that. I was like, Yo,
Speaker 4: what's up?
Speaker 2: What the fuck?
Speaker 3: She was like, oh, my bust.
Speaker 4: And she was like, I was going to fly back
Speaker 4: to New York, but it was a storm in New York,
Speaker 4: really best Sandy, Hurricane Sandy, and she was like, I
Speaker 4: can't fly back to New York, so I'm gonna be
Speaker 4: here nextra day. What are you doing? I was like, Yo,
Speaker 4: I'm in the studio, Come hang out, come by. She
Speaker 4: came by the studio and I handed her up in
Speaker 4: the pad. That was like right the second verse. So
Speaker 4: that's literally how oh yeah. It came about the two
Speaker 4: her being on it because originally just music, but literally
Speaker 4: came about because I came to sit in with you
Speaker 4: and Chrissette.
Speaker 2: Was there, watch God work Robert.
Speaker 4: Next, I'm like Radio two. The Bill Withers thing. Bill
Speaker 4: Withers came to the so for a random for some
Speaker 4: random reason, Casey when we set up at the studio
Speaker 4: was like, yo, let's do let's play Lovely Day for
Speaker 4: the sound check. And I was like, okay, we literally
Speaker 4: never played Lovely Day A right, Okay, what are the
Speaker 4: changes the game? You showed me the change.
Speaker 3: I'm like, cool. So we just took did one take
Speaker 3: down Lovely Day.
Speaker 4: Boom. That's literally what you hear on the fucking album
Speaker 4: on the on the extended version. There's a Black Radio
Speaker 4: two then as extended. So anyway, one of the guys
Speaker 4: there was like, yo, I know Bill, I'm gonna call
Speaker 4: up and tell him you did that. I was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 4: call Bill. Everybody didn't call Bill. He called Bill, put
Speaker 4: me on the phone with him. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: young man, I wish i could come to hear your song,
Speaker 4: but you know I'm feeling a little sick or whatever.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, okay, no problem, man, honor, honor
Speaker 4: that you even took the time to talk whatever. Cool.
Speaker 4: So fast forward the next day, Uh, who's that I
Speaker 4: was going to I'm in in uh Macy Gray, I think.
Speaker 4: The next day and Rash was writing his rhyme and
Speaker 4: he ended up having like a writer's block in one part.
Speaker 4: So we were just upstairs chilling, kind of talking shit
Speaker 4: or whatever, and up walk up up the stairs Bill
Speaker 4: Withers walk in.
Speaker 3: Wow, Like what dude?
Speaker 4: He walks in and he's like, well, let me hear
Speaker 4: this song? Like, oh shit, okay. So we go to
Speaker 4: the downstairs the studio play on the song. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I like the song. Like what y'all did with it? Bluhm,
Speaker 4: and then talk to us for three hours straight.
Speaker 2: Stories just stories and stories.
Speaker 4: And stories, got all video story and story story From that.
Speaker 4: Rashid was sitting behind him with a pin in the
Speaker 4: pad writing some of what Bill was writing down singing.
Speaker 4: So Rash's second verse when I stand Alone from Blackbird Too,
Speaker 4: really is a lot of Bill Withers words. I mean, wow,
Speaker 4: go listen to it right after this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of our bucket lists.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I hate we never got a chance to get him
Speaker 2: for your past.
Speaker 1: Man, I want to deal what is on cres So, Rob,
Speaker 1: are there any like, is there any I mean besides
Speaker 1: the eventual collaboration now you'll do with your son yep,
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 3: Are there any bucket list projects that.
Speaker 1: You you have yet to you know, are you going
Speaker 1: to do a forraae into classical music?
Speaker 3: Will you? You know what guitar and I don't know.
Speaker 10: I would like to hear Robert Glass would take on
Speaker 10: like a Brazilian love affair, not a cover app not
Speaker 10: covering that, but you know something in that.
Speaker 2: You know your own ship, but.
Speaker 3: Just that like the movie, like the movie Lady, My
Speaker 3: Lady is Cuban.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I went to Cuba hints we have a
Speaker 4: kid and Cuba.
Speaker 3: She took me.
Speaker 4: I didn't beat the Cuba, but she took me to
Speaker 4: Cuba in November to see the vibe and go to
Speaker 4: see the music of the clubs and everything. It was
Speaker 4: so fucking inspiring, bro, Like the musicians out there are
Speaker 4: fucking incredible.
Speaker 9: You got to see like the whole Apro Cuban, all
Speaker 9: of it.
Speaker 4: All of all of it. I even got cool with
Speaker 4: Chucho because that I've been to Chucho's crib and we
Speaker 4: hung out and played, you know what I mean, like crazy.
Speaker 4: So I want to do like a I definitely want
Speaker 4: to do a like a a project like my ship
Speaker 4: meaning Cuba, you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 6: Red Hot back in the day, you know.
Speaker 4: Red Hot wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely want
Speaker 4: to do something like that where it brings that that
Speaker 4: that sound together because so many people take from Cuban musicians,
Speaker 4: but you don't see the musicians because the motherfuckers can't
Speaker 4: come over here, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: That parts I was like, yeah, man, I was learning
Speaker 4: so much from her about the culture and everything, and
Speaker 4: so it's so deep and rich and so dope, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. But also I thought a Brazilian
Speaker 4: one too, bro, Like I want to do something.
Speaker 3: It's just like you know, the.
Speaker 4: Chords in Brazilian music, you just be like, oh, you know,
Speaker 4: just over the thing. So many Yeah, yeah, I have
Speaker 4: so many. But I have so many projects in my mind.
Speaker 4: That one that I want to I want to get done,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But you know, I definitely
Speaker 4: want to. I want to do an official, like some ship,
Speaker 4: an official thing with the roots, a real one, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. I've sat in so many years,
Speaker 4: but I attribute a lot of people asking me, like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like where am I? Where
Speaker 4: my sensibilities come for playing hip hop and things like that?
Speaker 4: How I got into it because I wasn't. I wasn't
Speaker 4: playing hip hop when I was in Houston. I just
Speaker 4: started playing hip hop until I got to New York
Speaker 4: and but I'll started taking me to y'all jam sessions.
Speaker 4: And my first time playing hip hop with a band
Speaker 4: was with you, you know what I mean. Like, So
Speaker 4: I got a chance to play with the roots a lot,
Speaker 4: which trained me in that in that old and to
Speaker 4: sit there and watch James Poyson and you know and
Speaker 4: watch June you know what I mean, play you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, like them cats and and the Mirror
Speaker 4: and that that really train. That's part of my part
Speaker 4: of my whole ship.
Speaker 3: You say nothing by the word.
Speaker 10: Let's do it, And don't be looking out to glass.
Speaker 10: We'n be hitting you up. We're in the process. I
Speaker 10: was putting the buggy here now since you're in LA,
Speaker 10: we're trying to figure out somehow trying to write a
Speaker 10: sketch for season two of Sherman Showcase.
Speaker 2: And we want we want you to be we want
Speaker 2: you to play thelonious month.
Speaker 3: We don't know how.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so.
Speaker 2: Just gonna get ready.
Speaker 3: Sherman Showcase.
Speaker 4: Yo.
Speaker 5: Can I just a little suggestion for the Emir Robert
Speaker 5: Glassford thing. I don't know if you recall, Robert, but
Speaker 5: there was a Roots picnic about.
Speaker 6: What was that side six years ago? Did you performed that.
Speaker 4: In the morning?
Speaker 9: Okay, so you remember telling me.
Speaker 5: I remember I was talking to you and Marcia and
Speaker 5: I asked you, like, you know, what, what was you
Speaker 5: like as far as the Ruce pic and he was like,
Speaker 5: I would really like to perform when it gets dark outside.
Speaker 7: I was.
Speaker 5: I was just like for you to also take this moment.
Speaker 5: I'm like when the Bruce picnic come back outside.
Speaker 4: Said look, they were setting up tables and ship like.
Speaker 2: Performed for the food truck man.
Speaker 3: I was like, Robert, even I don't attend the first
Speaker 3: U picnic.
Speaker 10: Was gotten there yet early it was yeah, no, none
Speaker 10: of the cat hadn't even got none of the cabiney.
Speaker 4: So let everybody seems to be like, yo, you're playing.
Speaker 4: I was like, I played nine hours earlier.
Speaker 3: All day, poor.
Speaker 9: Baby was there all was a there on Front Street.
Speaker 5: Because I'm like, in a way too, I don't know
Speaker 5: how much he's gotten a real live, great Black radio live.
Speaker 9: I was just saying, when if we could like recreate something,
Speaker 9: were you not part of.
Speaker 3: The the joint I did with Esperanza or was that
Speaker 3: not you? Okay? Because you that was probably ramming.
Speaker 4: See see I had to go on a good path.
Speaker 9: So back to the.
Speaker 3: Bus.
Speaker 9: Now this is this is no, no, no, we're doing
Speaker 9: some boting. Come on building picnic for twenty twenty one
Speaker 9: Robert Hill in.
Speaker 1: The studio first and then we'll we're in the next
Speaker 1: routs picnic lu by the office. So that's where we
Speaker 1: can have a roots picnic.
Speaker 4: Oh there you go. Yeah, exactly, there's that that part
Speaker 4: part to twenty one.
Speaker 3: I said twenty all right, well it's so it probably
Speaker 3: will be twenty two.
Speaker 9: But yes, whatever, I just I want ribery class in
Speaker 9: the roots.
Speaker 4: I was just saying, boom, let's do it, let's go yo,
Speaker 4: I'm here. Whatever happened to that? Did that thing ever
Speaker 4: come out that we did in Dallas with the orchestra?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 4: You know, it's weird.
Speaker 1: Shaka's portion made it on YouTube. I don't you're Your
Speaker 1: guess is as good as mine. I think whoever like
Speaker 1: underwrote that like put it out for quarantine entertainment. But
Speaker 1: that's a good question. No, it hasn't officially come out,
Speaker 1: but that too, I think I did a piece with Erica.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did Erica, you Shaka Khan and the Roots
Speaker 3: in the Dallas. Uh yeah, yeah it was. We did
Speaker 3: some amazing stuff together. So you know, Dog, you know
Speaker 3: you're my favorite. Absolutely, we're going to do ship together.
Speaker 4: Let's go.
Speaker 3: Let us go, Yo, Rob We thank you for doing
Speaker 3: Questions finally two parter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so on behalf of Sugar Steve, Laya Fangelo and
Speaker 1: uh unpaid bills somewhere. We also like to give a
Speaker 1: shout out to our our pals at Mazda and they're
Speaker 1: glorious X thirty No, thank you very much, Robert.
Speaker 2: We appreciate congratulations again on you on your daughter. Man,
Speaker 2: I have what's what's her name?
Speaker 4: Her name is Lola, oh lol, Lola? Oh yeah, may Riley.
Speaker 4: He's a lot going forty three, going off forty three
Speaker 4: exactly for sure.
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