WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Robert Glasper 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:09.440 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. Ladies and Gentlemen, 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:16.160 Welcome to another edition Grand Imperial. Another. 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:20.120 Wait, I don't feel to encourage from you. Guys are 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:24.160 snickering behind my back. You know that's that's words rappers say, 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:27.640 you know, the professors. No, Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.000 another episode of Quest Love Supreme. 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:35.920 My name is Questlove. We have Teams Supreme with us snickering. 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:39.400 Laya, Now that makes me sound like the person that 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:46.880 leads our world with his weak ass. 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:45.960 Ahead. 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:48.000 Yeah, I know exactly. 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:55.800 I'm doing good contrary to the world I'm doing No, actually, no, 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.000 I'm doing I'm doing good. I'm feeling good about about 0:00:59.080 --> 0:00:59.800 life and whatnot. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:00.400 That's cool. 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:01.279 I'm talking to you all. 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:02.720 Steve. 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:04.880 Yes, I know this is this is the highlight of 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:09.840 you know, I look forward to these converse seasons with 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:10.440 my friends. 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:14.000 Never now, Sugar Steve, how you doing, Hey, Quest, Hey, 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:18.560 Team Supreme. Steve. I'm feeling real good right now. 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:20.520 You know, it's been a long time since we asked 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.319 you about to Sugar Network. What's what's the HAPs of 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:26.640 the Sugar Network? Since funny you should ask. 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:30.520 We just ended season three and began season We just 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:35.440 started season four, which is the Blueberrius Network. Now Blueberry 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:37.679 We're going to pretend after three years, you don't know 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:39.039 how the Sugar Network works. 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:41.880 I'm sorry. Yes, everybody gets a season. 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:46.680 I'm sorry, yes, season we're on season four, but we've 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:48.800 only been around for like two and a half years. 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:52.000 But we're already on season four and the new founder 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.920 is Blueberrius, so you can find him at Blueberrius. It's 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.560 the Blueberrius Network for season four. Thank you for you're 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:03.840 still the executive producer, right, yeah, I'm the original founder, 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:04.960 Sugar Steve. 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:08.200 Yeah, it's named after you. I've seen that and Fan Tickeolo. 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:09.720 I'm good, brother, I'm good. 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.080 House it down yourth cacollect. 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:13.320 It's cool, man. 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.639 I think the governor said that they're about to do 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.880 a phase what they call a phase two point five 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:23.600 or something, so like now they're starting to open some gyms, 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.600 so like gyms can open it like thirty percent capacity. 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:32.040 I think restaurants can open it like twenty percent something. 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.320 Crazy. My ass is still in the house, so this 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:35.360 shit needs nothing to me. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:40.400 But but that's yeah, the gym's out here doing the 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.680 little outside thing like they going into the parking lot too. 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:43.359 Yeah. 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:48.320 Some of the gyms are out, yeah, yeah. 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:49.880 Yeah, some of them were. They were actually actually my 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:52.280 gym for a minute. They were kind of doing it outside, 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.680 but I don't know. I think it kind of fell off. 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:56.600 But I don't know. 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:58.880 Just being around a bunch of people just breathing hard 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.720 and sweating like that not seem like a good life playing. 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:06.040 So yes, I just been sticking to my old man 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:07.920 walks in the evening and. 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.120 Uh, let's here before old man walks. 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:15.280 Yes, yeah, just I hit my walk. Bro, still getting 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:16.040 your tenth doll's that? 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:16.720 What's up? Man? 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:17.359 Yeah? 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.760 I'm morning still are you still every morning six o'clock? 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.200 Rick Rick Ruben put me up to the task and 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:25.799 I'm still doing it ten thousand a day. 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:31.519 That's great, man, that's I'm trying to unleash my inner 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.600 strict uh growing a bug and I'm actually gonna get 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:35.120 on a plane. 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.680 Wow. Really did you coming back to see your people? 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:38.560 See your mom my? 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:42.000 Mom is turning seventy and I'm like, can't missed that. 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:46.440 So I'm e man side actually flew from uh La. 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:48.600 She she did that flight. She flew from l A 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:51.240 to DC and she said it was. Actually it ain't. 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:52.480 It ain't that bad like it was. 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:55.160 No, it's all good. 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:56.800 I make sure I eat everything I need to eat 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.720 before I get on the plane. Don't drink nothing, you know, 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:00.839 And if I do, I got my clor. I'm gonna 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:02.920 have my gloves, I'm gonna have my mask, I'm gonna 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:04.880 have my shield, and I'm. 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:06.960 Gonna you find Jet Blue. 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:09.160 No, I'm gonna probably do. 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.720 My Mama's my Mama's carrier, United, the one that has 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.360 you know, housed and fed may for forty years. 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.119 Oh that's right, yeah, United. 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:18.560 I forgot, Yeah, I forgot that. 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.200 Hey, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that this 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.919 particular episode of Court Left Supreme is being brought to 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:27.880 you by Mazda. I gotta say shout out to Mazda 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:33.200 for letting me, uh test drive their c X thirty. 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:37.440 I gotta say it's my first grown man car that 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:38.760 I personally endrove myself. 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.480 Well, that's like one of those Cuvs, right like they 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:43.080 got su They had SUVs, but. 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:46.200 Now they got the crossover. The crossover kind of that. 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.800 Yeah, but you know, like when I get in it, 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:55.640 like my driving experience doesn't warrant a turnaround, Like, what's that? 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.040 I never heard for cars that I drive, You know 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.680 what I'm saying. Most cars that I drive are yeah, 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:07.360 like the set of Pee Wee's Playoffs. But I gotta 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.040 say this, this is kind of official. I enjoy driving it, 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:12.599 and good luck and trying to get this car back 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:12.840 from me. 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:20.120 My appreciate that it's comfortable. 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:23.279 And plus, you know, I'm on the farm, driving two 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.680 hours every day to the city, and you know this 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:30.280 is where I listened to all my favorite podcasts and 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.080 my audio books and my meditation stuff. 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.919 So yeah, this this came right in time. I appreciate. 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.280 Follow you on Spotify and I saw you listening to. 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:42.120 Some some meditation and something. 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:43.520 I was like, what the hell is this a mirriage playing? 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:45.560 I was listening. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:49.440 I forgot that Spotify actually snitches on what I listened to. 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:56.200 Right now, yeah, you follow me, you ain't don't see me. 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.159 This is nothing but the brand album for them. 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:04.760 I forgot the world can see what I'm listening to 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.960 because all I'm listening to is the meditations stuff. 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.680 Yeah it, but it'd be the time too, so it'll 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.520 be it's not you know, I mean, it'll be like 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.239 damn two o'clock in the morning. 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:14.920 It'll be late. 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.200 And so I see, I'll say that from midnight till 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:20.440 like eleven in the morning. 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:21.920 That's my meditation. 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:23.640 Now, so you got to get to the change this 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.920 picture though, they got your Philadelphia Experiment picture. I don't 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:31.960 even know who that person is. 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:36.920 Yeah, you know, not not you follow my see people 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.520 follow always look for quest love. 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.359 No, you gotta follow my my my. 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.640 Oh, your government, the government. 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.159 Shoot, Neil K. Thompson is right there, you are, so right. 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.240 Yeah, that's how you mere. 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:52.960 I don't think people know this, because that's why your 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:53.760 listeners are different. 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:57.320 You got okay, I know, yeah, like only only for 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:58.320 certain people. 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:01.039 Now, yeah, that's on for cute link niggas. 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:05.720 Because exactly, only for certain for certain niggas. 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:11.440 That's exactly why I did that, exactly. Yeah. 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:15.360 No, it's good to hear that you're you're facing your fears. 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.400 I too, am going to get on a plane tomorrow. 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.240 Ain't you been getting on a plane. Don't play me 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:23.040 play lotto. 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:27.160 No, I've not been on a plane since. So you 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:31.000 drove because y'all drove to the all I've been driving 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.680 to Ohio since that time period. 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.720 I have questions about what y'all doing up there? Y'all 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:39.000 doing something productive out there? 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:43.240 I am you mean, do you want to go with them? 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:44.400 I'm not just you. 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:46.400 I was just curious. I didn't know how to ask. 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.440 But I see all the pictures posted and I see 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:51.200 you know, all the social celebrities, and I'm just wondering, 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:52.720 since we know we're in an entrance in State of 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.120 the World, are y'all like actually talking about things that 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:58.160 could help you know that y'all are powerful individuals. 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:02.840 Well, I mean it's not G thirteen, but I will 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:07.280 say that a good four to five hours is pretty much. 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.840 I don't know when these episodes are coming to be 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.080 or I don't know if it belongs to quality or 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:22.440 Dave owns the content. But dude, I told you that's 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:24.840 what he was doing. I told you it's about Yeah, 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.240 it's at this rate, I think he has I know, Lie, 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.520 I think there's about forty hours of content. 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:37.920 Yo, Nicol were releasing our Dave Chappelle episode that no, 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:41.640 I'm just saying, oh man, I'm just saying. 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.320 Well, it's not that's the thing. 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.640 I don't think Dave has a platform, but this is 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.240 going to go somewhere someday. 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.719 But the last time I did it. 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.040 Last time it was a really good episode, like most 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.480 like basically each episode is most quality. 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:01.480 Dave like, they're the anchors. Those three are the anchors, 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:02.719 and then me. 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:10.200 And whatever comedian Kevin Hart uh sometimes uh Kevin Hart, 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:13.679 Bill Burr was the last time before that was John 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:15.920 hamm Common, Tiffany. 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.000 Hattish and uh. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:21.920 You know, but I will say that, yeah, and it's 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:26.520 it's it's not just what I won't say. It's not 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:29.640 just us. I don't want to say fluffing. No, it's 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:35.040 it's not it's us, Yeah, it's not. Yeah, it's actually 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:39.280 us holding people's feet to the fire. Like everything that 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:43.680 including an hour about you know, quality's situation with the 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:45.520 with social media and all that stuff. 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.360 Like she got real. 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:50.559 So I don't know when or where it's coming or 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:51.679 how it's coming or whatever. 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:58.040 But I mean, I mean, besides that Dave actually has 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:00.400 taken over his town. 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.280 I got to commend him, like he has the resources 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:05.120 and the Governor's blessing to. 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.360 You know, Ohio is very important. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.480 Another an you know, the another is that I was asking, 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.559 especially in the election, it's very important. 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.920 Yeah, but it's Yeah, he's you know, he has medical 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:22.800 people on standby, he's testing, testing his audience, testing his guests. 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:28.120 And then once you do that, I mean you just yeah, 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.280 it's it's rather incredible. Well, that is nice for me 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:32.280 to go back a third time. 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:32.800 But I. 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:36.400 Also do hope that you'll figure out some other things 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.720 to do, like some things like similar to what Lebron 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.080 is doing. I know everybody doesn't have Lebron money, but 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:44.080 on some levels of opening up stadiums and figuring out 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.360 how we're going to get people out to vote and whatnot, 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.120 comfortable places and save spaces. 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:50.280 Anything that could help the cause. 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:52.720 You know what I'm saying outside of just some good conversation, 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:54.640 but I appreciate the conversation as well. 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.640 Well. All I can do on my end is raised money, 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.080 so I can. 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.280 Tell you tell them, and then you know, working out. 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:06.280 Yeah, I'm certain that that's on his mind. I mean 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.320 that that's been discussed. I don't know what his direct 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:13.800 plans are for November, but you know, right now I'm 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:17.440 a member of team. When we all vote, we're registering 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.880 about thirty seven thousand people every night. 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:20.920 DJ SU. 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:21.680 That's good. 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:29.480 Yeah, just trying to it's a mystic. 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:31.640 We can win as long as we keep our heads 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.720 to the sky. This whole renewed sense of optimism is 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:35.319 what I feel. 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:40.880 Yes, No, I do have optimism. What I'm what I'm 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:44.360 more worried about. I mean, i'd be lying if I 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.880 didn't say that I was. I wasn't worried about the 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:50.360 transition period like November. 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:55.120 I'm actually getting out from November to January. 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:59.000 Win or lose, Like you know he wins, Yeah, November 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.960 to January as hell for the next four years as hell, 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.480 but lose you know, who knows what that transition will 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:12.120 be like for those three months borderline hoping that he 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.960 I predict that he's going to I realized you can 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:22.720 lose the presidency if you remove the. 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:22.960 Goalposts of the election day. 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:29.280 So if he moves the election day, then instantly Pelosi 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:33.000 becomes president. And so I think in his head it's 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:40.640 like I'd rather be removed than lose elections, right, So that's. 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.080 Going to be another that's another theory. 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:45.400 Oh my god, it's so saying that he yeah, he'll 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.760 plan it as the crats forced me out, and like, 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:53.120 so that's what I'm hoping for. But you know, of course, 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.920 that they follow the law, but they've been lolessed ninety 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:56.840 nine percent of the time. 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.280 So followed the ship yet why not? 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:04.000 Yeah? But I'm just saying I ain't getting the mailers 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:04.600 like I used. 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:09.040 To, right, I got I actually got my mail today. 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:10.439 My mail has been running pretty school. 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.400 But yeah, it's this ship is nuts. 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:18.120 So let's get to our episode, ladies and gentlemen. Today. 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:23.199 Our steam guest is a is a g That's right. 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:27.840 He's a multi Grammy Award winning and Emmy Award winning 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.079 not he I'm sorry, not ghetto, but your your your g. 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.320 I have a soul train award. Is that going there somewhere? 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:39.640 That doesn't count your soul training award? 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:44.079 I have a soldier war I'm jealous, yo, from the 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:45.839 man that was. 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:50.800 Still alive when I got it. Wow, I got a 0:13:50.840 --> 0:14:02.200 real one. I'm not okay that intro Ladies, Yes, I 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:02.840 love it. 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:06.560 That whatever. 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:08.800 Brot one. 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.160 Man, I got a one month old of a girl 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:23.520 you know quarantine? Yeah? Wow, that was. 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:26.520 The map that's coping season. 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:28.560 Wow. 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:34.400 Wow man, congratulations bro bro thank you man. 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:38.520 What's up? Steve? Congratulations? How you doing? I'm good? Kick 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:39.680 and playing and play. 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:43.160 Wait let me, let's let our listeners know for those 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.320 that don't know, because it will be a bunch of 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:49.800 inside jokes and you know it'll be so literally. Yeah, 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.880 our guest today is Uh, he's literally worked with the 0:14:53.880 --> 0:15:01.960 best of them. Name him Uh Tip Uh, Michell Stilla, 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:04.600 Jill Scott. 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.040 Have we worked worked together? My fault? Did y'all did? 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:09.720 Y'all did? 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.359 Cover with a lot of lune. 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:20.560 We did? Hey? Wait, way to circle back speaking. 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:24.160 Our theme today is having a renewed sense of optimism, 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:30.479 and our guests actually covered sounds Blackness, Mortal, Classic Optimistic 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:35.000 with Brandy out right now Yes with Brandy and August 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:39.400 Green featuring Common and Kareean Riggans and probably one of 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:42.200 the craziest, funniest people I know. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:43.480 Robert Glass. 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:48.720 Finally, it's been long overdue, but. 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.080 Me just for the people that's listening, we should tell 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:52.960 them the only reason it's taking as long as because 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.120 Amir always wanted to be in the studio, in a 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.360 really banging ass studio with rob And that's the reason 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:02.560 we haven't made this happened because lady somewhere. 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:04.880 Exactly we thought we had like hopes and dreams of 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:06.440 like jam sessions and whatnot. 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.400 I kept looking. I kept looking at my resume, like, God, 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:19.280 damn it, am I good enough to be friends Robert? 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:20.360 Wait time out? 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:24.200 Okay, so I just I pulled up your Wikipedia page. 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.040 Have you seen your Wikipedia page lately? 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:31.600 I haven't seen what's with this photo? The photo that 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:32.240 they got for you. 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:35.200 Is it with the dreads? 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:35.840 The dreads? 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:40.200 It's like his sears Roebuck catalog pose. 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.400 It's the ray Kwan You know when Ray Kwan. 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:52.240 Puts the temple is uh yeah, yeah, I'm not proud 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:52.640 of that. 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.120 I'm I think we all have one of those polls 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:59.320 that picture with that pole, because when you're deep in thought, 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:00.520 that's exactly what you do. 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:00.760 Right. 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.120 I was doing my time where I was really fighting 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.480 against taking photos at the piano because every time I 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.280 took photos at the piano, I was like, that's corny. 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:09.679 I want to be away from the piano. 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:11.800 And that was during the time where I was like, nah, 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:13.879 I wanted to do other stuff and I didn't know 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:17.600 what to do, and it was weird photography. 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:18.040 This one. 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:22.600 This, I was like, this, right, is that one photographers 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:26.040 suggested the piano to you is like photographers telling the roots. 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:30.480 We gotta go out to the forest to take photos. 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.160 I have an idea we go up to the forest 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:40.120 or put shackles on your feet one of the two 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:42.520 roots exactly. 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:44.320 Take you next picture next to Alex Haley. 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:49.360 Where are you right now, Robert, I'm in LA. I'm 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:50.280 at the LA spot. 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:51.400 That's right, he one of us. 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.080 Now you live out in LA right now? 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:54.520 Yep? 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:56.760 Yeah, Well I always had an l A spot in 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:58.639 New York spot. But now I'm just here in l 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:01.359 A for a long period of time, so I'm pretty 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:02.880 much I'm pretty much here. 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:05.919 I think I'm gonna call this home. How long have 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:06.680 you lived out there? 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.360 I had this place here for about four years, but 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:12.679 I've never really spent you know. You come in for 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:15.199 a week here and you know, but now I'm like 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:16.560 staying here, you know. 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:21.360 So see, I always I always thought there was a stigma. Well, 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:25.200 you know, you are a serious musician, and I always 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:31.280 thought that LA had a stigma on serious musicians, Like 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:36.840 there's always been this cloud of sort of pretentiousness with 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.280 LA session musicians and LA jazz musicians, at least in 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.840 the sixties, seventies, eighties, and nineties. I don't know if 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.720 it's still yea, it has held over or not. 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:51.119 But you know, I mean, I don't. When I'm out here, 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:54.600 I'm not being a musician. Okay, when I'm out here, 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:58.720 I'm producing. I'm gonna film film, I'm scoring films, you 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.200 know what I mean. Like I always say, New York 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.240 is where you learn how to play, and then LA 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:04.240 is where you make money. 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.840 So that's why I moved out here one. 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:12.200 Per You know, I'm actually long overdue being here in LA. 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:12.919 Really, you know what I mean. 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:14.080 I should have been here ten years ago. 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:19.520 Yeah, yeah, man, just for the opportunities of what I 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:22.080 want to do, because I'm not trying to be the 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:23.840 best jazz piano player in the world anymore. That's what 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:25.440 I've moved to New York to do. When I was 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:26.760 the high school, I said, I'm. 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:27.320 Going to New York. 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:29.240 I'm gonna be the best jazz piano player. 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:33.879 And it was all about that, all about bigger musician 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:35.320 years we were there already. 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:37.399 I'm over that. Yeah, you. 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:42.880 Want to work, work, Yeah, but that's what it's supposed 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:44.439 to be though, that's how it's supposed to be. I 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:46.439 had like a og tell me, like, you know, the 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:49.720 first part of your career. It's about becoming the best, 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.160 right Yeah, But then after a while it's like, Nigga, 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:53.679 I gotta put myself in the position to make the 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:54.240 most money. 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:55.240 Boom exactly. 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:57.639 Let me ask as a fan, does that mean that 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:00.960 you've done everything you want to to do musically? 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.200 Like are your music goals or or oh. 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:04.040 No, no, no no no. 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:06.600 I put myself in a position where I can always 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:08.960 go back and do that. You know, I can always 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:11.159 make records. I don't have to do the New York 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:13.160 grind anymore. I don't have to be in New York 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.800 and beat play the clubs and play the gigs, you 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:17.160 know what I mean. I can go to New York 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:18.679 and play my show when I want to play my 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:21.800 shows and stuff like that while I'm out here also 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:23.879 doing film scores and and all that stuff. 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:24.080 You know. 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:27.000 That's why you strategized and did those those that when 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:29.000 you had a whole residency in New York right before 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:30.760 you left them, right, that was brilliant. 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:31.680 That worked. 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:33.280 It worked out. So that's all I got to do. 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:35.080 Every year, I go to New York and stay one 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:38.920 month and do all my shows New York. 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:43.280 Get all your show out the way, get your quarter 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:45.280 done and then come out out. 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:46.399 I love it. 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:48.240 I see my son. My son's in New York, so 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:49.240 I go there. 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:51.560 I get, you know, those reasons I just keep my 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:53.280 New York spot is so I can go back and 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:55.240 see my son all the time, you know what I mean. 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:58.480 But you know, other than that, it's it's bye bye 0:20:58.600 --> 0:20:58.960 New York. 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:01.280 We have a chance. Has your son had a chance 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:02.200 to meet his sister yet? 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:04.520 Yeah, she's one month old? Not yet? 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:06.680 Oh yeah, it's just whatever. 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:08.600 That's it. 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:09.880 That's it. 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:12.480 Your son hilarious? 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:16.000 How dangerous is he as a musician? Now? Yo? 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:20.320 Now, dude, Now he there's not a deal of joint 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:22.159 he doesn't know, and he there's not a deal of 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:24.840 joint that he doesn't know how it's made. Like he's 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:28.320 producing beats. Him and Kareem Riggins Sonny Dreams are making 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:29.080 the EP together. 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:30.040 I can't. 0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:31.680 I love it? 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:37.120 So Glasperriem glassper Riggins like yeah, because first of all, 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:38.960 Kareem's son is crazy with the beer. 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:45.240 Have you heard his beats? No, he's like maybe thirteen. Yeah. 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:48.240 First of all, generation is going to kill. 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:50.959 Me, yo. First of all on drums, he's crazy. Like, 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:52.960 I hire him right now, for a hip I get 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:55.880 not even joking. We jammed, and we jammed a few 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:59.120 times here in La I believe you killing. But then 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:01.760 his beats are his beat so stupid. So him and 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:04.639 Riley and my son they always play Fortnite. They're always 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:06.680 on the playing Fortnite ship. And then they started making 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:09.280 beats and going back and forth with the beats and ship. 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:15.800 So now they Riley make and yeah JM and Lewis Okay, yeah, 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:19.120 he's literally that's what he's on now, that's literally what. 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:22.400 He's on, these kids with Swiss beats son and oh 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:24.560 my god, Jill Scott her Son making beats too. 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:25.880 Yeah. Yeah. 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:28.440 They have access to the tools that we didn't like. 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:31.280 I mean, the technology is so, I mean, you can 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:32.920 make beats on your damn phone now, you know what 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:33.320 I'm saying. 0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:35.840 So, but Riley's like, he ain't me yesterday that dad, 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:40.399 can you give me an n PC one? Wow? I 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:50.639 was like, uh yeah, right now. You just released the 0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:53.200 project with uh ninth correct. 0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:56.000 Yeah, So we he's an album called we got an 0:22:56.000 --> 0:23:00.399 album called Dinner Party. Yeah, me Terry Smart and co 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:03.680 See and Knife and yeah. 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:08.560 So with Felix, Felix, Felix there Felix, Man, I do. 0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:12.560 Felix is really dope. His beats a dope too. He 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:13.600 makes dope beachs too. 0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:17.040 He made tracks, okay, yeah, stupid tracks. 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:21.600 Yeah. I just everybody making tracks. Everybody makes tracks. I know. 0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:24.000 I've never been a track. I've never been. I've never 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:26.920 wanted to make track. I gotta make some beach right exactly. 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:30.440 It's like, I know, all the dopest musicians, Let's get 0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:31.879 in the room and make the dope ship. That's how 0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:34.840 I'm always like that, like pluck that. But yeah, you 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:36.920 got to make tracks. But but yeah, so we just 0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:39.280 did a dinner party right now. We just we're just 0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:42.560 finishing up a dinner party kind of remix kind of 0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:45.600 situation where we took all the songs, but we put 0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:50.639 guests on them. So we got Corday and Snoop and 0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:52.720 a few other artist Balao on there and a few 0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:54.439 other artists on those actual songs. 0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:59.560 Tank from Taking the Bengals. Yeah, she's dope. I love her, man, 0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:00.000 She's dope. 0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:03.200 Uh So, yeah, finishing up that. That should be done 0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:06.560 in a few days actually, and then I'm still in 0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.240 the middle of working on Black Radio three as well. 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:12.399 Oh my god, So wait, all right, can we just 0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:12.800 real quick? 0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:14.960 Don't you don't know I'm working on Black Radio three? 0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:19.959 No, no, no, no, you know listen, I know, I 0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:20.520 just forget. 0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:26.119 I just forgot it was I forgot that was coming. 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.000 So that means that you all Black Radio three. 0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:31.240 You're supposed to be, I was supposed to be. I 0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:33.760 may be like, here's here's the thing. 0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:35.240 I'm not playing alone. 0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:35.760 Let me tell you. 0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:40.400 Let me first, what had happened was to put happened. 0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:43.880 Hey man, you can't put me on blast and don't 0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:45.720 want them to say myself, So let me set the 0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:50.240 up straight fallow. Look, we in the goddamn pandemic. I 0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:51.359 don't feel like doing ship. 0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:52.639 I have to learn. 0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:57.960 Let me look, I'm clar I'm in a space where 0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:00.880 I have to learn. The first like three four months 0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:02.960 of this ship was just like what the fuck right? 0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:07.199 So I had to learn how to create in this space. 0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:09.320 I knew how to create in the old world when 0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:11.560 we was out torn and moving around and bumping in 0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:12.680 each other and all that shit. 0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.000 I know how to feel that creative tank. 0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:17.760 I had to learn how to feel that creative tank 0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:19.080 in the space where we can't go. 0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.360 No, fucking where. So now I'm waking up again. 0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:24.080 I'm kind of finding it, you know what I mean, 0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:25.560 I'm kind of finding a voice again. 0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:29.400 So now to everyone, to Robert Glass and everyone. 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:32.040 Now, yes, there's a big possibility I'll probably be on 0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:34.679 black radio now because I know how to create. I'm 0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:36.480 kind of finding my voice now. But at the time 0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:38.679 he reached out to me, he was like, yeah, man, 0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:39.359 I got this joint. 0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.520 Send it. I'm like, Nigga just watched my aunt die 0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:43.800 on Zoom. Nigga Like what the. 0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:46.520 Too? 0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:53.200 Literally, oh, mom was like months ago. 0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:55.600 I had to log into an app to watch a funeral. 0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:56.600 Nigga, this is. 0:25:56.880 --> 0:26:06.719 We're right now? Like yeah, wait, yeah, yeah that might 0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:07.439 be there was up. 0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:11.880 Okay, this might be my old age, but I'm under 0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:17.000 the impression that you actually invented or pioneered. 0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:22.040 D I wydeness when it comes as far as I know. 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:23.640 You have an Apple on your phone that you do 0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:25.520 the vocals on and then you just be sitting it 0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:26.240 the motherfuckers. 0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:28.160 Yeah. 0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:30.360 I mean when me and Nick did foreign exchange, Yeah, 0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:32.680 that was kind of the first, you know, in terms 0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:34.359 of I mean it was us doing it, and then 0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:36.480 I think before that it was the postal service with 0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.400 your boy from Deaf Cab, but they were actually sending 0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:41.199 it through the mail. We were sending it just you know, 0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:43.399 through I am. But even with then, I mean that 0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:45.879 was still at the time where you know, the world 0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:48.120 was open, like we were going out, I was going 0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:51.000 to doing shows and whatever. So the thing about now 0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:53.320 is just creating in this part where I think people 0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:55.680 are having most of the artists, my homies. I talked 0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:58.520 to the thing that the kind of prevalent feeling is 0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:02.000 that we're still being held accountable or we're still being 0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:05.320 held we're still accountable for the same we're still under 0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:08.240 the same pressure, but we no longer have those things 0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:10.200 we were able to do to release that pressure. 0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:12.320 So it's like you motherfucker still won't need it. 0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.560 Damn rappidy rap rapidly saying and do all this ship, 0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:18.040 But I can't go to the gym right where and 0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.080 where's the release? Like I can't I can't go to 0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:22.120 the gym, I can't go to the movies. 0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:23.960 You know what I'm saying, Like, well. 0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:28.520 Apologize, I apologize, and I appreciate you for having this 0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.960 moment because there's so many people that will feeling the 0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:31.400 same way. 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:33.880 You're right, You're right, you right. 0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:35.760 Oh yeah, but I'm coming. 0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:37.520 But you know now, like I'm figuring out like I 0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:39.600 got I'm me and Pooven working on ship like I 0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:41.840 got ship coming, so so now I mean I'm waking 0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.520 up now like now I figured out so so now 0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.239 glass for like with joints like us being black Radio three. 0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.960 Yeah, that more than like what happened, because it's. 0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:55.320 Always I have a studio to Robert, I. 0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:56.280 Want you on there too. 0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:58.600 I was gonna hit you, but I had a whole 0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:02.359 idea that we'll figure that out. Yeah, I'll do it. 0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:04.120 If if doesn't do it, I'll do it. 0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:08.600 Bars. 0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.800 You can see your little brother. 0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:14.320 You have voiceover, great voiceover. 0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:17.560 I'm just joking, But I'm more curious about who else 0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:20.120 is because I was just curious because I was like, damn, Robert, 0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.040 you gotta I know people be coming at you when 0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:23.879 you do these black radio albums. 0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:27.040 Like yeah, well you haven't even I haven't even said 0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:28.960 it out loud that I was doing it until I 0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:32.359 released a single a few days ago, one of the 0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:35.360 singles off the record with the song I did called 0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:39.320 Betty than I Imagine and with her with her and Michelle 0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:44.040 de gil Cello. Yeah, so that's that's something I was 0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:49.640 holding for Black Radio three. But I was like, fuck it, yeah, 0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:51.520 you know, because you still. 0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:54.760 Go on the record correct, yes, yes, But I was like, 0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:55.800 I don't want to hold it any longer. 0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:57.960 I'll put this one out, you know, just to just 0:28:58.000 --> 0:28:59.720 put it out there, because I need to put some music, 0:28:59.880 --> 0:29:01.400 just like I want to put something out, and this 0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:02.920 is a good time for it, you know what I mean. 0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.760 And you know, so yeah, I got to December to 0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:08.360 finish it, and I'm gonna go, come on next year. 0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:12.520 What have you been doing the last six months? Have 0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:15.280 you been working at home or just like doing nothing? 0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:19.280 Well? No, I learned how to do logic pretty good. 0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.680 I got better, bro, That's what I do. That's all. 0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:23.880 That's where I track all my shit in. 0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:24.440 I got. 0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:27.280 I got better at logic. And actually I'm building a 0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:29.720 mi a terist a building a studio right behind my 0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:33.360 house right here, like literally ten steps away. There's a 0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:37.560 one apartment behind my crib and my landlord moved out 0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:39.280 of there and we took it over and made it 0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:41.840 the studio. So we'll be finished with that in like 0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:44.960 two three weeks. So that'll be a place where we 0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:46.680 can like really go work, you know what I mean. 0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:50.160 And so we've been doing that, and I've been. 0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:51.680 About the noise. 0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:54.160 No, you can't even they can't. It's separate. It's just 0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:57.920 no neighbor. The way it is. My landlord had it. 0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:01.000 My landlord had it built by and people from our church. 0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:04.520 It's like all sement and it stands with its own. 0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:06.280 It's like isolated. 0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:07.800 Is dope. It's really dope. 0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:13.240 So okay, okay, I'm curious. 0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:21.080 Yeah, yeah, yep, you know this is we we've known 0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:23.360 each other for the longest, but we really have never 0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:28.360 had an in depth conversation. And what I always no, no, 0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:30.840 But the thing I was always curious about was that 0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:35.560 I don't think it's same way that Philadelphia had its 0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:37.720 renaissance in two thousand. 0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:40.760 Yeah, you know, I felt that Houston. 0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:44.640 Had that same renaissance in two thousand and six, two 0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:49.400 thousand and seven, you know, with all these musicians who 0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.840 at the time, like what was going on in your 0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:56.920 high school, with all these musicians that were thinking left 0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.760 of center, like what was what was in the air, 0:30:59.880 --> 0:31:01.200 like what was going on? 0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:04.520 So the cool thing about my high school, which you know, 0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:05.720 Art high school. 0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:06.680 Is because you went to one of the best ones 0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:09.160 in Philly, so you went to perform in art high school. 0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:11.960 I want to perform in ours high school in Houston 0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:15.640 High School for performing arts. And the cool thing about 0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:18.040 my high school, which I think we might be the 0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:22.520 only high school that did this. I'm pretty sure, or 0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:24.320 maybe not. You can tell me if y'all did this. 0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:28.160 My jazz director and not even just the jazz director 0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:33.240 in all the art areas, they hired teachers that didn't 0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:33.840 have degrees. 0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:39.880 Wow. So our jazz cats that were teachers were just cats. 0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:42.440 Wow. Yeah, they didn't. 0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:46.520 Have degrees they design or purpose or yes. 0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:50.000 Because the motherfuckers that have to degrees most of the time, 0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:54.360 you know. But the cats that are the cats, they're 0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:57.360 just playing. They out there playing. So they was coming 0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:00.320 to the school showing us what's hip right now because 0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:02.800 they're out there playing right now. So the cats that 0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:07.120 was over our jazz, our jazz classes, our jazz professor, 0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:11.000 doctor Morgan had a degree, but he made it so 0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:13.800 he would just hire different and sometimes we would see 0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:15.680 one dude for three months, never see him again. 0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.320 But he was dope. Yeah, but it was dope. 0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:22.840 And what one of the cool things about us school 0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:26.560 also is we had a class period called listening. 0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:28.040 You didn't play. 0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:32.040 You came in and we had a CD player and 0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:35.160 everybody in the class could bring anything they wanted to 0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:36.760 and you just sat there and listened. 0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:37.880 Damn. 0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:41.120 And part of the problem with a lot of musicians 0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.040 is they don't listen, and they don't know what to 0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:45.640 listen to, and they just don't listen, you know. 0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:46.120 What I mean. 0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:52.000 And our jazz rector made a class called listen, so 0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:54.720 I would bring stuff. It could be gospel, it could 0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:58.440 be anything, and and and all the cats to bring stuff, 0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:01.360 you know, every Mark Kelly, that's Mark about it. 0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:02.960 It was who did you go to school with? 0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:07.320 Like in my class? In my I went to school 0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:11.880 with Mark Kelly. I went to school with Kendrick Scott, drummer, 0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:17.440 really guitar player, Mike Marino, Beyonce, she was there for 0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:17.920 one year. 0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:24.720 Brian, Brian Cox, he was my best friend. 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:29.640 Yeah, I met Yeah, I met Brian grad and he 0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:30.680 told me to come there. 0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.640 We met at a talent competition Sammy Davis. 0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:40.600 Junior Awards, and I was playing I was playing piano 0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:42.600 with a gospel group and he was singing with. 0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:44.840 An R and B group called business or Pleasure? 0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:50.880 What that was? 0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:51.320 That was? 0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:51.440 Like? 0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:53.600 That was ninety three ninety two. 0:33:55.560 --> 0:34:00.360 Yeah, please tell please tell me, please tell me. Measure 0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:01.280 was spelled with a Z. 0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:10.719 I got to do so yeah. So so Brian we 0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:12.680 met at that competition. He's like, yo, man, you got 0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.440 to come to PBA where you were all all the 0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:16.840 cats playing this blah. 0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:17.680 I was like, what's that? You know? 0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.319 So he told me about it, and I didn't go 0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:21.880 with my freshman year because I thought I was going 0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.239 to be a basketball player. So I was like, nah, 0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:26.920 I want to play basketball. So I wasn't even serious 0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.560 about piano yet. Yeah, I want to play basketball. I 0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:30.160 wasn't serious. 0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:32.160 How old were you when you got serious about piano? 0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:37.200 When I got serious, Uh, I was in like tenth 0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.240 grade when I was like, I want to good night, 0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:43.600 But I was playing the Church and stuff I was playing. 0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:46.239 I started playing the Church. I literally started playing Canada. 0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.640 My mom was My mom was the musa director at 0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.680 church and she sang in clubs all through the week, 0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:54.040 like clubs like R and B gigs and stuff like that. 0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:57.040 She was literally like WHOOPI Goldberg my sister at all 0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:00.319 that and then on Sundays, did she have a group? Yes, 0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:02.720 her and my stepdad had the group. They were literally 0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:08.160 like seafists and receipt ex absolutely hilarious. Oh wow, the 0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:19.560 early eighties, the curls, the colors. 0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:19.440 So for real. 0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:23.160 But but but on Sundays, my mom was a minister 0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:25.120 of music. I had a small church, you know, so 0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:27.759 they allowed me to play the little broke ass organ 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:29.399 that was in the corner. So I used to play 0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:32.520 every Sunday the pastor whose birthday is it? And when 0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:34.760 I was eleven, I was playing with one finger Happy Birthday. 0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:36.640 I figured out how to play Happy Birthday with one finger, 0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.560 and then they just let me every sun they just 0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:41.520 let me sit there and to figure the service out. 0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:44.279 I started playing Luther Van songs with one finger because 0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:48.000 my dad played with the vandjoff to the house every day. 0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:51.360 All the time. And so I was learning all. 0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:53.520 That kind of songs and just and then I just 0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:55.520 I really talked, I really taught myself. 0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:56.839 Yeah, and then I just. 0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:01.440 You know, and then that age like yeah, maybe age fourteen, 0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:04.640 that's when I no, what's tenth tenth grade? 0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:07.160 I don't know, tenth grade is whatever. 0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.960 I auditioned with I auditioned with three gospel songsu I 0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:14.160 didn't know any jazz tuns, so there was no guy. 0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:17.200 Wait, but up from beginnings of church to the fifteen 0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:19.400 there was nobody, got no guidance, nobody to say, but 0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:20.560 this is how you really do this? 0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:23.319 Well, See, my mom had a band and in her 0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:25.800 band there was a piano piano player named Alan Mosley 0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:28.560 that nobody knows, one of them cats from your hometown that. 0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:31.879 Was drunk but was really good. And you know he's 0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:33.400 a legend. You never see him. 0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:36.640 So I used to sit next to him on the 0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:38.400 piano eventure and they would have rehearsals because we had 0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:40.880 rehearsals at our crib. We had pianos and a have 0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:42.880 rehearsals the cribs. I would sit there and watch them. 0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:45.759 So the only song I played at my audition that 0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.640 was jazzy was He taught me how to play the 0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:51.719 Spider Man theme in the in the in the form 0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:52.840 of a c minor blues. 0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:54.880 So he taught me how to walk a baseline. 0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:58.320 Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boo. 0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:01.960 Well, so that's what I did that and I did 0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.080 three gospel songs, and then I. 0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:07.759 Got in wait speaking which wait. 0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:11.120 Robert, you remember that time I bet you that you 0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:14.400 wouldn't ah, man, this is this is the most the 0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.759 most devastating gig of my life. 0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:21.280 Was Robert as a joke. 0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.279 You know, I think Robert says, I'm gonna sneak the 0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:28.000 Smurts theme into this jay Z song. 0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:31.759 All right, so it was one of them. This is 0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:32.799 one of them. It was all right. 0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:37.400 So me and Robert Glasper were we were like, uh, 0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.759 paying tribute to jay Z at one of these like 0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:48.400 you know, twenty five thousand dollars plate banquet spots. And 0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:50.960 at the last minute I told Glass but I said, yo, like, 0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:55.480 you know, do something like really uh, you know, a 0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:57.560 high class for these people, like, you know, make it 0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:01.640 sound like classical stuff. And he gets at the piano 0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:06.040 and starts off like you know, you know, like Alicia 0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:08.560 Keys first came out playing for a lease. 0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:14.160 You think of like some deep ship. So Robert goes. 0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:18.959 And the audience like Mariah Carey, Yoka Owner, Everyone's looking 0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:21.759 and all of a sudden, this motherfucker starts playing this person. 0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:38.200 Michaelphone. I was like, what mother fuck are you playing 0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:39.239 the smurs right now. 0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:46.839 But then when we got up, it went downhill from 0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:50.640 there because then Tarik forgot all jay Z's lyrics in 0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:51.440 front of jay Z. 0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:56.520 Yes, yes, man, the worst gig ever. 0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:59.520 But I remember when we gonna stage, y'all go on 0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:03.239 the wheel, drunk on your shoes. She came to she 0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:07.200 just came threw up and just fell on me and 0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:09.200 like a hug and fell up and she was like 0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:15.200 yoga owner or her sister threw up on somebody's shoes 0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:22.080 And YO about that kid, Bro, that's like. 0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:24.480 One of y'all's like a George Clinton story, y'all make 0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:26.560 sure I remember that. 0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:29.279 That's so James just signed to the label. I thought 0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:33.759 he was about to get dropped. I was calling me 0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:36.040 and like, how could you guys forget his music? 0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:41.160 Everyone knows the song? Right? 0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:44.319 Were you always this person? Like in school too? 0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:46.880 Were like were you always funny and like you know, 0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:48.240 outgoing or whatnot? 0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:50.440 Where that is that the same you always? 0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:53.040 Yeah? I was the kid that I had to sit 0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:59.000 down in the hallway. Yeah, I was way a couple 0:39:59.000 --> 0:39:59.480 of times. 0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:00.960 That was me. 0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:04.520 That was me the whole all the time. Yeah, Literally 0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:08.360 I ran into a girl. Dude, maybe in January. I 0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.680 don't know December. I was in Houston, went to a 0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:14.440 I went to a barz and Noble. Ran into an 0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:16.759 elementary school friend of mine. I met and we were 0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:19.759 in the same play. We played Hunky Hucky Berry Finn play. 0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:22.120 I played Hunckyberry Finn. 0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:23.400 Oh wow. 0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:29.719 In fifth grade. That was my debut on stage. That's 0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:31.440 the only thing I've ever done acting. 0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:32.399 I played us. 0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:41.719 Tom Tom Sawyer. Tom Sawyer was an Indian dude. We're 0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:43.759 we're ahead of our time. We were out there. 0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:44.439 Oh wow. 0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:47.120 First of my look and I met this I saw 0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.280 this girl. She looked at me. Oh my god, Robert. 0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:51.919 Soon I saw her, I was like the pig, That's 0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:55.440 what I said. She was the pig in the play. 0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:58.840 She looked exactly the same, exactly and she was like, 0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:01.400 oh my god, you still haven't changed since you were 0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:02.160 in fourth grade. 0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:03.120 This is so crazy. 0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:05.520 I was like, damn, I have it. 0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:09.120 I literally haven't wait. Question. Was Chris at your school 0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:13.200 as well? Chris Dave. I don't know how old Chris is. Chris, 0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:16.640 he's but he's like ninety he's ninety two. 0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:17.480 Chris. 0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:20.040 He's supposed to be as good as he as he's 0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:25.160 one hundred and thirteen. Chris ch goddamn Like, No, Chris went. 0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:30.000 Chris graduated from PBA in nineteen ninety. 0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:35.759 Chris is my age. Chris is like Chris is like 0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:38.960 forty is he is? He forty seven to forty eight? 0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:43.880 Got yo because his voice make you think that he's. 0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:46.640 He keeps bring a prodigy, because you keep thinking he's 0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:51.600 the little kid. It's old as fuck. I didn't You're like, 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:53.440 this is thirteen year old's amazing? 0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:55.000 How did you do that? 0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:59.040 No, so, Chris, we know, So Chris. That was a 0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:03.600 drummernamed Mark sim before you you know, mart Mark Simmons. No, okay, 0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:06.120 so Mark Simmons was probably the beginning. 0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:06.200 No. 0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:11.239 Before Mark Simmons, there was the lineage of drummers at 0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:14.680 the school. There was what's the fucking dude that played 0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:16.800 with Tyer of Power anyway. 0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:20.800 Power drummers? 0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:27.239 Uh fucking Dave. No, not the famous one, the other guy. 0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:31.719 Maybe he did some tours never mind, yeah him not. 0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:38.200 After that. After that there was Mark Simmons, Mark Simmons. 0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:41.000 If you ever saw in the last twenty years or whatever, 0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:45.200 Algierro or fucking George Benson, he was on drums. The 0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:48.160 guy that was elect maybe a year or two order 0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:52.080 than Chris. That made Chris like really sad because he 0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:54.040 did something to Chris in high school really bad. 0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:55.200 So Chris was. 0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:56.040 Mad at him. 0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:58.040 He had a been deata against him the whole time. 0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:01.400 So Chris, that's where that fire under Chris's ass. 0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:03.080 That's what lit a fire. Have to do with the 0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:06.200 girl that made Chris go in the practice room and 0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:08.800 never come out. That's the story. All my friends that 0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:10.920 are around that time tell that story. They were like, yo, 0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:12.680 he went to practice with and they come out practice room. 0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:18.839 So and there was Eric Harlan after Chris. They went 0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:22.080 together around the same time. Maybe Chris is a senor, 0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:25.680 maybe Eric was, you know, a sophomore or something or 0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:26.280 a freshman. 0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:26.879 Uh. 0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:30.840 After that, then there was Kendrick Scott and then Jamiah 0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:32.320 you know, Jamiah Williams. 0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:33.320 Yeah, Jamayer. 0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:37.719 Yeah, they're still putting out some great motherfucker. James Francis, 0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:43.160 you know, he's he's of that Francis from Alston. His 0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:45.160 parents used to drop him off when I would do 0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:48.799 gigs in Houston. James used to do His parents used 0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:51.520 to drop him off at my soundchecks so he could 0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:54.520 watch a soundcheck because he was too young to come 0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:57.120 for the show. So I used to let him sit 0:43:57.280 --> 0:43:59.440 like right by me and stuff and watch my soundchecks 0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:00.680 because he wasn't. 0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:02.840 Yeah, when he got to New York. Yeah, when he 0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:05.120 got to New York, I told I call poister. 0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:10.480 I was like, yo, okay, your recommendation. I see. Yeah. Yeah. 0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:15.560 So whenever, whenever James or Ray angry or come on, 0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:20.719 I can't do the Tonight show that James Francis. Yeah, 0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:23.359 I mean he was young boy back then, but now 0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:25.840 you know he's one of his own gigs at Blue. 0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:28.279 Note, you know, yeah, that sort of thing. I used 0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:33.239 to sneak him in the brook Brooklyn Bowl. Now, you know, I. 0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:43.319 Need to say, like I went to school with like 0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:47.600 these young lions, like when I was in school, like 0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:51.800 my third day of school, Di Francesco is getting pulled 0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:58.799 out by Miles Davis because like it'll be like, uh, 0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:01.279 who was Miles's keyboard play? 0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:02.120 Was it Kenny Kirkland? 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:02.880 No? 0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:03.600 Uh? 0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:08.560 Which year before he passed away, like eighty six doing 0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:11.520 the to To era. I think one of those guys 0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:13.239 wasn't Kenny the definitely one Kenny Cartman. 0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:17.840 Okay, I forget it was but you know, I'll be like, yo, 0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:20.839 where are you going? And he'd be like, now it's 0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:23.279 sucking up again. So Miles is sending for me. I 0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:27.480 mean there's a typical that like Christian, you know, Elis 0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:29.680 Marcellus come and take Christian now school for two weeks, 0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:34.320 you know. So like basically they were they were the 0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:38.640 young lions of my generation. But the thing was is 0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:46.160 that they were following traditional jazz right. And obviously I 0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:51.319 guess my introduction to your world was via Blau. Yeah, 0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:56.719 and you know, and hearing Blau break every rule of 0:45:57.600 --> 0:46:03.040 what song structure was, and I'm wondering, well, okay, and 0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:05.759 I asked, I was like, well, who's the who's the 0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:08.280 music version of you? Like who else is breaking the rules? 0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:11.680 And then I met all of you guys in a 0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:18.000 month or so, and I just never seen because I 0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:21.160 knew you guys were seen as jazz musicians. But I 0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:25.200 was always wondering if whether or not you get embraced 0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:29.040 by the jazz community, like would they let you play 0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:30.080 in reindeer games? 0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:31.800 Because you guys were. 0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:34.640 Looking at the rule books and sort of just throwing 0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:37.440 it out the window, like did you have to master it? 0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:39.920 Like did you have to sneak in the house first 0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:43.279 and sort of talk their language and d and then 0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:46.600 hold them hostage once you eat at your power. 0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:54.520 Like about that process, Klow, And you do that to that, well, 0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:55.120 I'll tell you why. 0:46:55.160 --> 0:46:57.880 I'll tell you why because when I got to the 0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:03.399 New School and ninety seven for college. Yeah, I met 0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:05.480 Balal the first day of school and we were like 0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:09.279 one of eight black people at the school, at the 0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:13.279 New School, at the New School, like in the jazz program. Yeah, 0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:16.440 what a lot of black people. Maybe exaggerating, maybe they 0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:21.560 were at fifteen honestly, Yeah, opposition to everybody was black. 0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:22.880 Yeah, so check it out. 0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:25.440 Though they put out a freshman in the room and 0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:28.400 they call you at random to come on the stage. 0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:31.280 They called me and Balao on stage at random together 0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:33.840 to play a song together. 0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:37.399 Wow, don't tell you what to play? Is just whatever 0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:37.759 y'all know. 0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:39.680 You go there with a bunch of cat They called 0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:42.200 on drum, so and so on, piano, Robert Glass Room, vocal, 0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:44.960 Balo Oliver. We got up to play the song, we 0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:46.960 got off the stage and we looked at each other like, yeah, 0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:48.919 well do they give you a fake book? At least 0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:52.000 they're like what do you no, you just call tunes nope, 0:47:54.000 --> 0:47:56.440 it yeah, or you talk to each other and be 0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:58.239 like you know this now you know this, I don't 0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:01.320 know kind of you know, just like like you do 0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:02.080 at a jazz. 0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:03.920 Club now because you know so and so, I think, 0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:07.279 so you figure it out. But whatever we did, you 0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:08.160 remember what it was. 0:48:09.480 --> 0:48:12.440 I have no idea what it was. But when we 0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:16.279 got off me and we we were, you know, you 0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:20.200 couldn't separate us after that because it was like, you know, he. 0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:22.760 Spoke a different language. 0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:27.200 Immediately, And so we began working on stuff together. And 0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:29.839 one of the president of the school at the time, 0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:32.920 Arnie Lawrence, he passed away. He saw us and was like, 0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:35.440 you two have something. Y'all should go in and work 0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:37.720 on a demo for Balau. And we were like okay. 0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:40.920 So he said, my friend has a studio around the corner, 0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:43.480 y'all can I talked to him already, y'all can go 0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:46.120 over there and kind of come up with some stuff. 0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:48.200 And his boy was Aaron Colemas. 0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:52.000 Aaron spend doctors, fucking spin doctors. 0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:54.920 Men believed this story. When told me, I'm like, who 0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:55.520 were doing this? 0:48:55.880 --> 0:49:05.080 He's and I was like what, Yeah, So we were 0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:07.880 going over there after school every day just writing songs, 0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:11.640 and yeah, a bunch of just jazz music is are 0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:13.600 on the album because we didn't know anybody that played 0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:14.080 anything else. 0:49:14.200 --> 0:49:16.080 We just knew the cats from the school. So that 0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:17.879 was Queenham Sanity the demo. 0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:23.279 Yeah, yes, me Quinny Sanity. Yeah, and y'all came just right. 0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:25.160 You and James came in there and redid it. Yeah, 0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:26.800 the drums. 0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:30.920 Yeah, that was essentially when I when I heard that demo, man, 0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:35.160 I you know again, I'm I'm happy to say that 0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:40.960 my my my one record of the six demos I 0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:44.200 ever heard and listened to and became fans of, like 0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:48.680 they all became like something in the world of course, 0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:54.000 you know, Little Brothers, Jill Scott, Slum Village. But hearing 0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:58.240 that beloved demo, I don't know how it came across. 0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:01.719 I don't know who played it for me, whatever, but 0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:05.760 I just I thought this person I remember you being about, 0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:14.600 you know, yeah, much much of my detriment. 0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:19.759 If there's ever a recapping of the kind of Black 0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:25.160 Lily Roots jam session story like in Oral History or whatever, uh, 0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:29.279 my enthusiasm for wanting to work with belaw definitely made 0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:32.440 moan to fuckers feel a certain way where, you know, 0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:34.720 because I mean basically every. 0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:36.560 Everyone had a job at this thing. 0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:40.040 And it was more like, okay, I'm the money, you know, 0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:43.879 like so tour money back to the jam session, back 0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:44.560 to the you know. 0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:47.239 And I would make appearances every now and then. 0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:51.040 But it's like after working on you know, the stuff 0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:52.840 at the Electric Lady and then coming back to do 0:50:53.000 --> 0:50:56.640 root stuff, Like I wasn't trying to like also do 0:50:56.880 --> 0:50:59.400 five hours at these jam sessions, but here in below 0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:02.360 sing man and I was just like all right, o come. 0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:08.480 Yeah, yeah, so you know, just ye and those those 0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:12.400 jam sessions so bloud. So we started working on the 0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:14.600 demo whatever, and me and him used to get on 0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:17.600 a bus from school and go down to Philly on 0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:21.840 Monday and Monday nights to the five spot Tuesdayesday, Tuesday 0:51:21.880 --> 0:51:23.879 we should go to the bus and go go stay 0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:25.960 at his mom's house in Germantown. That was my first 0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:28.000 time will ever go to Philly just a week and 0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:30.520 go to those jam sessions. And then y'all started coming 0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:33.440 to doing the ones at Lake Street. Yeah on a 0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:36.280 at uh which theme is the spot? 0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:36.560 Uh? 0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:41.960 Wetlands wetlands so seeing y'all play live, but I was 0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:44.640 always trying to get me to understand how to play 0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:45.360 y'all ship, and. 0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:47.479 I didn't understand what the fuck he was talking about. 0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:51.279 He's like, you no like, yo, like play don't play 0:51:51.320 --> 0:51:53.080 it on? Play it off? 0:51:53.480 --> 0:51:55.680 What play like? 0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:57.920 You know how to play, but you don't know how 0:51:57.960 --> 0:51:58.319 to play? 0:51:58.680 --> 0:51:59.920 What you talking to? 0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:02.640 No nigga like like? 0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:05.960 And then I saw y'all live and I saw James 0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:11.080 Poyser and I was like, so that made me. I 0:52:11.280 --> 0:52:13.120 kept going back, and then he would let me sit 0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:14.680 in with you, yo, you will let me sit in 0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:16.799 you know. I was like I was, I was jazz 0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:19.200 bread and I would sit in with y'all. And because 0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:21.799 of sitting in with you with the roots, that's how 0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:25.000 I learned how to play that ship. I didn't I'd 0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:26.920 never heard it. I didn't understand what it was. 0:52:27.120 --> 0:52:30.440 That's so weird to me because in my mind, you 0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:35.840 and all your Hustonians just have another relationship with time, 0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:42.480 with with meter in time that is beyond anything I've 0:52:42.560 --> 0:52:45.640 done or you know, dare I say at Dyla or whatever? 0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:50.239 Like I I just i'd never seen I mean, it's 0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:53.400 like watching the animniacs run in the water tower, like 0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:55.960 you know when you see them running and help the smooth. 0:52:56.840 --> 0:53:05.400 That's a crazy analogy, That's what I mean. Like, but 0:53:05.480 --> 0:53:07.040 what I want to know is how did you force 0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:11.719 the jazz world to your will? Because I don't think 0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:16.720 that's I don't think that's an easy it's not task 0:53:17.040 --> 0:53:18.960 like that's that's what. 0:53:20.719 --> 0:53:21.319 Well, here's the thing. 0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:25.920 I always knew that I had to make sure that 0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:28.560 I could play jazz with the best of them before 0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:31.080 I decided to do anything else, you know what I mean. 0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:34.719 I had to Like when Herbie played with Miles put 0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:37.360 his first few albums out, there was no you couldn't 0:53:37.440 --> 0:53:40.040 question Herb about ship, about can you play that? 0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:41.920 All? 0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:42.040 That? 0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:44.759 That was always so litle five, There's no argument there. 0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:47.319 So when he did Headhunters, you cannot like it if 0:53:47.360 --> 0:53:51.040 you want to, but you can't dispute him as a 0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:53.239 jazz artist, you know what I mean, as a jazz 0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:56.319 piano player, especially being black, they're so quick to want 0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:59.040 to call you a hip hop piano player or R 0:53:59.080 --> 0:54:01.400 and B really quick to not want to give you 0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:05.239 the title of that. So it was in my mind 0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:07.440 I was like, well, no, even when I before I 0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:09.600 got signed, I said, in my mind I knew I was. 0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:12.920 I want to do a few jazz albums first to 0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:15.360 shut these motherfuckers up, who are gonna be talking? And 0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:17.520 then I want to do my other ship. 0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:21.120 You know, like you reminded me of like the like 0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:23.239 Donald Bird. That's how I always kind of saw your 0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:25.560 career is like yeah, Donald Bird. But then you know, 0:54:25.640 --> 0:54:26.239 he did his thing. 0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:28.880 But then when he got with the Moselle Brothers, it 0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:31.560 just became you know something, yeah, for. 0:54:31.600 --> 0:54:34.360 Sure, exactly exactly, and that's my thing. I wanted to 0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:34.759 make sure. 0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:37.680 So then when that happened, my thing was just grabbing 0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:39.879 all the young people because I felt like jazz whether 0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:40.800 for young people anymore. 0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:43.399 And what made what made me get into jazz was Roy. 0:54:46.800 --> 0:54:49.480 Roy came to my Roy Roy came to my school 0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:52.880 and when I was in eleventh grade, I'll never forget it. 0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:55.480 He went there too, right, No, he went to the one, 0:54:55.520 --> 0:54:55.719 and he. 0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:59.319 In Dallas with Erica, He went to the he went 0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:03.080 to the book team Washington, Yeah, Norah Jones and the 0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:03.600 whole thing. 0:55:03.719 --> 0:55:04.720 So that was our rival. 0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:08.120 We rivaled them off time for all state jazz competitions 0:55:08.280 --> 0:55:13.719 and shit. So when Roy came to our school when 0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:15.960 I was in eleventh grade. He was already Warhard Grove 0:55:16.200 --> 0:55:18.440 the album. So he came to the school and he 0:55:18.560 --> 0:55:22.360 had on like overalls and Tim's you know, and his 0:55:22.480 --> 0:55:23.400 band was black. 0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:25.080 I never seen that. 0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:29.440 I have never seen five young black guys that look 0:55:29.560 --> 0:55:32.600 like me, dressed like me, talk like me up there 0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:36.120 playing jazz. That's never You never seen that, because when 0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:38.120 you're in school, the pictures of jazz is what they 0:55:38.200 --> 0:55:39.719 give you, and it's all in black and white, and 0:55:39.800 --> 0:55:42.200 it's everybody has them a suit and it's not you know, 0:55:42.280 --> 0:55:42.760 it's nothing. 0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:45.640 It's nothing that has anything to do with you right now, 0:55:45.880 --> 0:55:46.040 you know. 0:55:47.280 --> 0:55:50.920 So Roy made He completely changed my whole shit. So 0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:53.200 that's literally why I am the way I am now 0:55:53.400 --> 0:55:55.600 because I feel like I'm killing the stereotype, you know 0:55:55.640 --> 0:55:57.880 what I mean. I feel like when people look at me, 0:55:58.080 --> 0:55:59.880 a lot of times they don't know, they don't know 0:55:59.880 --> 0:56:01.399 what the fuck I do, you know what I mean? 0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:03.480 And when I was, you know, selling out the Blue 0:56:03.560 --> 0:56:06.439 Note and the Vanguard and all these places, white people 0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:07.160 will walk by me. 0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:09.040 I would be outside, hang on, my friend. They walk 0:56:09.080 --> 0:56:10.640 by me looking at me like, what are you doing here? 0:56:11.560 --> 0:56:12.880 I'm like, well, actually. 0:56:12.680 --> 0:56:15.600 They're coming out of the right, you know. 0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:17.080 But them people on the bus and a lot of. 0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:18.600 That is like, you know, they don't know. 0:56:18.680 --> 0:56:19.960 They come to New York and get on the bus 0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:22.479 and they take you to where somebody famous is playing, 0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:23.960 you know what I mean. But they look at me 0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:25.759 and my je's and my T shirt and it's like, oh, 0:56:25.840 --> 0:56:27.600 we if I was walking down the street, you think 0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:29.880 I'm a rapper or you think I'm whatever, you know 0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:31.120 what I'm saying. Don't think I'm about to hear and 0:56:31.160 --> 0:56:34.280 play still Up by Starlight or actually play this piano 0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:35.759 the way I do, you know what I mean. And 0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:38.200 that's what I got, literally got that from Roy and 0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:41.360 that's what made kids. He inspired me so much because he. 0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:41.840 Looked like me. 0:56:42.000 --> 0:56:43.200 So I was like, that's what I want to do, 0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:45.120 you know what I mean, I want to inspire the 0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:47.200 young cat. So I think when it came to the 0:56:47.280 --> 0:56:51.080 jazz world, I just ignored them and really went for 0:56:51.160 --> 0:56:53.439 the young people, you know what I mean, but still 0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:56.600 keeping the integrity of jazz, but making it to something 0:56:56.680 --> 0:56:59.200 where they they could identify with, you know what I mean. 0:56:59.280 --> 0:57:02.200 And that's a wow. The jazz bar couldn't deny it anymore. 0:57:03.280 --> 0:57:05.000 I think you have to do that though, because I think, 0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:07.440 you know, even like in all forms of music, you 0:57:07.600 --> 0:57:10.160 have to kind of, if not necessarily, appeal to the 0:57:10.239 --> 0:57:12.080 young people. You at least have to know how to 0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:15.600 communicate with them, because they're the ones that's coming next. 0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:19.000 So if you want your thing to live on, you 0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:21.680 gotta get the youngins so they can be it on, 0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:22.320 you know what I mean? 0:57:22.840 --> 0:57:25.439 Rapper in that conversation to like in a way where 0:57:25.520 --> 0:57:30.520 like his project, I was going to ask, kind of know. 0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:37.560 I was going to ask, there was the jazz police 0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:46.040 of likeut when Marcella's all those cats, is there such 0:57:46.160 --> 0:57:48.160 thing as the jazz police, like. 0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:49.480 The people. 0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:54.640 Himself that's okay? 0:57:58.120 --> 0:57:59.560 Agent to grand jazz police? 0:57:59.600 --> 0:57:59.720 Is that? 0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:02.320 Oh y'all didn't see it? Y'all didn't y'all didn't see it. 0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:09.160 Right years ago, Branford turncoat on you, nigga, hold on, Branford, 0:58:09.760 --> 0:58:13.200 put put me out. Look, this happened maybe two years 0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:16.600 two years ago, maybe three years ago. Two years ago 0:58:17.160 --> 0:58:20.320 he did a uh, he did an interview for one 0:58:20.320 --> 0:58:22.640 of them jazz magazine, maybe down Beat or something like that, 0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:25.960 and in the middle of the interview. They were like, so, Branford, 0:58:26.400 --> 0:58:28.960 what do you think about what people like Robert Glasper 0:58:29.040 --> 0:58:31.840 and Camassie Washington are doing? You know you did, but 0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:34.840 shot lafunk, what do you think about Robert Glasper's doing? 0:58:35.480 --> 0:58:39.520 He said, well, you know, Jack Camosi, he's not a 0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:41.280 jazz he's not a jazz saxophone player. 0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:43.640 Just do him all the way over. 0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:47.680 Then he said, and Robert, I mean, I'm glad he's 0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:50.919 doing what he's doing because he's he has delimited jazz 0:58:51.440 --> 0:58:55.760 vocabulary also, And then you ask him, he'll tell you 0:58:55.920 --> 0:58:56.480 the same thing. 0:58:57.200 --> 0:58:59.720 Those were literally his words, Si, Robert. 0:58:59.480 --> 0:58:59.880 Do you have a. 0:59:04.720 --> 0:59:06.640 Like what? Who? 0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:08.800 Heartbroken? 0:59:09.680 --> 0:59:12.960 What are you talking about? What are you talking about? 0:59:13.480 --> 0:59:14.720 Do you not know who you are? 0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:15.160 So? 0:59:16.480 --> 0:59:20.440 So for the listener, if you have a limited jazz vocabulary, 0:59:21.040 --> 0:59:22.400 who hasn't unlimited? 0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:24.560 Who is that? Yeah? 0:59:24.640 --> 0:59:26.560 That was like, come on, bro, like that now you're 0:59:26.800 --> 0:59:30.600 now that was that was just that's reckless, that's reckless, 0:59:30.720 --> 0:59:31.720 that's like you know. 0:59:32.360 --> 0:59:34.520 He They didn't even ask him that. That wasn't even 0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:38.200 the question. He didn't ask do you think they're jazz musicians. 0:59:37.880 --> 0:59:39.840 Or do you think what they're doing in jazz? They said, 0:59:40.800 --> 0:59:43.600 you did bust shot Lafunk. So they were literally speaking 0:59:43.680 --> 0:59:49.000 to crossing over and he took that time, took that 0:59:49.080 --> 0:59:52.360 little platform to put us down instead of being like, 0:59:52.520 --> 0:59:52.880 oh well. 0:59:52.880 --> 0:59:55.720 Ship Robert Glass and Black Radio that's doing. That's great. 0:59:56.120 --> 0:59:58.200 I'm happy, but something used that. 0:59:58.400 --> 1:00:00.919 Don't use that platform to shoot down the two top 1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:03.240 black instrumental jazz. 1:00:03.120 --> 1:00:05.320 Musicians that, you know what I mean, why would you 1:00:05.400 --> 1:00:05.600 do that? 1:00:06.160 --> 1:00:09.440 Come on, brocom, what. 1:00:09.480 --> 1:00:11.840 Do you think is required? I mean, you know every 1:00:11.960 --> 1:00:17.160 genre has there and they were disrespecting Branford. You know, 1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:19.600 just there's always the grumpy will go out Branford. 1:00:19.640 --> 1:00:21.040 I know he did that. 1:00:21.240 --> 1:00:25.240 I love him, y'all. Have you have you seen him? 1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:26.400 Y'all ran into each other? 1:00:26.880 --> 1:00:28.880 No, but before he said that, I ran into him 1:00:28.880 --> 1:00:30.560 at the club. But we had dreams he was playing. 1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:32.840 I went to see him play. I had had a 1:00:32.960 --> 1:00:33.880 night off in Seattle. 1:00:34.120 --> 1:00:34.760 He was playing. 1:00:35.040 --> 1:00:36.800 Me and Chris and the few other people went down 1:00:36.840 --> 1:00:39.600 there hung out. I'll always shown Brandford love. He's always 1:00:39.680 --> 1:00:41.920 actually shown him. We've been cool every time I see him. 1:00:41.920 --> 1:00:42.439 You know what I'm saying. 1:00:42.440 --> 1:00:44.560 But I just felt like, why not he was gonna 1:00:44.600 --> 1:00:44.800 say that? 1:00:44.880 --> 1:00:46.040 You could have said that to my face. 1:00:46.160 --> 1:00:47.920 You could have been said that to my face, bro, 1:00:48.400 --> 1:00:51.160 no matter. In fact, I saw him at International Jazz Day. 1:00:51.680 --> 1:00:54.480 I saw my International Jazz Day in Russia maybe two 1:00:54.560 --> 1:00:56.920 years ago something and that oh you know what, and 1:00:57.040 --> 1:00:59.600 we had a little oh you know figure. 1:01:01.120 --> 1:01:02.440 It's all coming. 1:01:06.880 --> 1:01:07.040 You know. 1:01:07.640 --> 1:01:10.080 You know that is like they bring in a bunch 1:01:10.120 --> 1:01:13.160 of jazz musicians and and and then they put it. 1:01:13.200 --> 1:01:15.720 They put you in a different country every year and 1:01:15.920 --> 1:01:18.440 to promote jazz, you know, and you do a concert 1:01:18.560 --> 1:01:21.400 together and they break you up a little groups and 1:01:21.560 --> 1:01:24.440 you do like one song. So we did the Intertional 1:01:24.520 --> 1:01:27.760 Jazz Day thing and me and Brandford backstage is somebody 1:01:27.920 --> 1:01:29.160 came up and was like, so. 1:01:31.320 --> 1:01:33.680 What do y'all think? What makes jazz jazz? 1:01:34.480 --> 1:01:37.680 And we're talking about it, you know, and Brandford said, 1:01:39.040 --> 1:01:41.840 the space between the quarter notes. 1:01:42.640 --> 1:01:42.920 Okay. 1:01:44.120 --> 1:01:48.040 I was like, before it sounds, what do you mean 1:01:48.160 --> 1:01:50.560 the space between the like literally the space between the 1:01:50.640 --> 1:01:52.760 quarter notes, like the space between them. 1:01:52.760 --> 1:01:55.320 So I was like, the space between the court. 1:01:55.400 --> 1:01:59.200 So literally it's a mathematical thing like if you do 1:01:59.320 --> 1:02:02.360 this space this space recording does That's just we kind 1:02:02.400 --> 1:02:04.720 of got into a think about it because the answer 1:02:04.800 --> 1:02:07.400 he gave was like, come on, bro, like it sounds 1:02:07.520 --> 1:02:08.480 it sounded like witting. 1:02:10.560 --> 1:02:13.040 I mean, no one has the true aunt like the no, 1:02:13.200 --> 1:02:13.600 we don't. 1:02:13.640 --> 1:02:16.880 But there's nerds like me that wanted a scientific definition, 1:02:17.240 --> 1:02:21.760 and there's creatives like you that you know that will 1:02:21.880 --> 1:02:24.960 never have the right answer or whatever. Like I don't 1:02:24.960 --> 1:02:28.200 think any creative truly knows what the definition of what 1:02:28.560 --> 1:02:30.960 makes their art form tick, you know. 1:02:31.600 --> 1:02:31.760 Right. 1:02:31.880 --> 1:02:34.360 But then but we're having to just a discussion and 1:02:34.440 --> 1:02:36.680 I'm like, yo, we start talking about tunes. I said, 1:02:36.720 --> 1:02:39.240 so because this is not swing, we're talking about talk 1:02:39.240 --> 1:02:41.760 about rye symbol everything. And it was like, so you're 1:02:42.000 --> 1:02:44.920 you're you're now defining a whole genre by a rhythm. 1:02:45.240 --> 1:02:47.680 So because it doesn't ting today and ten to day, 1:02:47.960 --> 1:02:49.800 it's not jazz. So what's red clay? 1:02:50.160 --> 1:02:51.880 And he was like, not jazz? Right, I said, so 1:02:52.120 --> 1:02:55.160 red clay is not nigga. So this is this is 1:02:55.280 --> 1:02:56.640 trap versus real hip hop. 1:02:56.720 --> 1:03:01.040 I get this, this is versus long argument. 1:03:03.000 --> 1:03:03.400 I get it. 1:03:05.400 --> 1:03:08.440 I get it for somebody, But for somebody who made 1:03:08.480 --> 1:03:10.720 by some of the funk, I just suspected something different. 1:03:11.560 --> 1:03:14.560 I expect a different answer. I just expect a different answer. 1:03:14.880 --> 1:03:17.440 But that was, but again that was twenty six years ago. 1:03:17.520 --> 1:03:17.760 That was. 1:03:18.400 --> 1:03:22.160 And look, even though Winton went and innovated the music 1:03:22.200 --> 1:03:25.160 and then stopped, he did Black Codes and then stopped. 1:03:26.600 --> 1:03:28.880 Black Hold is such an innovative record, you know, Black 1:03:28.920 --> 1:03:32.000 Codes from the Underground, Black Codes from the Underground. 1:03:32.040 --> 1:03:32.120 Bro. 1:03:32.400 --> 1:03:37.520 It's like absolutely fucking incredible. You know, one of my 1:03:37.600 --> 1:03:40.640 favorite records of absolutely absolutely you know. 1:03:41.600 --> 1:03:43.800 Uh went and called me go. 1:03:43.800 --> 1:03:46.640 Ahead, oh wait, go ahead, go back to that because 1:03:47.800 --> 1:03:50.680 he calls you remember the whole nother ram. 1:03:50.720 --> 1:03:52.000 I don't know if you want to step into it, 1:03:52.000 --> 1:03:55.320 because we want to know because it was because of 1:03:55.320 --> 1:03:56.560 the Lord Hill stuff. 1:04:00.360 --> 1:04:03.200 Go in, come on, come on with the smoke. 1:04:04.840 --> 1:04:07.080 No went and called me. I was in Japan and 1:04:07.160 --> 1:04:07.680 never forget it. 1:04:07.760 --> 1:04:08.200 He called. 1:04:08.280 --> 1:04:11.360 He texted me and was like, yo, is this Robert Glaswar. 1:04:12.040 --> 1:04:14.280 I was like, yeah, who's this? He was like this 1:04:14.440 --> 1:04:15.920 went and I was like, oh, Ship, what's up? 1:04:15.960 --> 1:04:16.439 How you doing? 1:04:16.480 --> 1:04:18.400 Man? It's like, hey man, you know, I just wanted 1:04:18.440 --> 1:04:20.640 to call and tell you, you know, let this Laura 1:04:20.720 --> 1:04:23.160 Hill shit go. And I was like that's his first 1:04:23.200 --> 1:04:26.960 words to you. Ever, yes, you ain't going next ever 1:04:27.760 --> 1:04:29.640 on the phone. We don't talk on the phone. I 1:04:29.640 --> 1:04:30.760 don't talk to me on the phone. 1:04:30.800 --> 1:04:34.400 You know me Japan, this ship is costing me extra 1:04:34.520 --> 1:04:40.560 money facing my dad and talk to me for this ship. 1:04:41.600 --> 1:04:43.600 He's like, let this Laura Hill shit go. First of all, 1:04:43.720 --> 1:04:44.960 I never drug it on. 1:04:45.360 --> 1:04:47.040 I said I did that ready interview and I never 1:04:47.120 --> 1:04:49.360 posted about it. I never said anything about it ever 1:04:49.440 --> 1:04:50.400 again online. 1:04:50.800 --> 1:04:51.400 You know what I'm saying. 1:04:51.560 --> 1:04:53.960 I did that radio interview posted and I didn't put 1:04:53.960 --> 1:04:55.360 sh it on my ig. I didn't even put that 1:04:55.440 --> 1:04:56.880 radio ine on my face. 1:04:56.920 --> 1:04:58.880 But nothing. So he hit me with that let this go. 1:04:59.000 --> 1:05:00.960 And I was like, well, I'm not doing anything, but 1:05:01.440 --> 1:05:03.040 you know, the truth is the truth. I don't really 1:05:03.080 --> 1:05:03.760 know what you want me to do. 1:05:03.840 --> 1:05:05.320 He was just like, man, you know she's got all 1:05:05.360 --> 1:05:07.840 these followers and stuff, and you know you're not gonna 1:05:07.840 --> 1:05:08.480 win that battle. 1:05:08.480 --> 1:05:11.120 And I just think it's best if you just battle. 1:05:11.200 --> 1:05:11.960 I'm not battling. 1:05:12.200 --> 1:05:12.440 I'm not. 1:05:13.560 --> 1:05:18.360 Wait, you're missing the most important part. When Marcellus knows. 1:05:18.240 --> 1:05:26.840 Who Lauren Hill is what, Yeah, he hairs is a 1:05:26.880 --> 1:05:27.760 whole other level too. 1:05:28.360 --> 1:05:31.280 You say seven millionaires niggas know. 1:05:31.280 --> 1:05:35.280 Who to definitely dude due First of all, yeah, this lord, 1:05:36.320 --> 1:05:38.880 I never thought when left this jazz bubble. 1:05:39.240 --> 1:05:42.040 I know, I know, but that was things to bring up. 1:05:42.240 --> 1:05:45.000 That's crazy. That's what he texted me about our first 1:05:45.080 --> 1:05:46.520 text and only text to this day. 1:05:47.200 --> 1:05:49.240 What about iraginations on you know. 1:05:50.960 --> 1:05:54.640 This movie? 1:05:54.840 --> 1:05:57.920 I told him, I said, but every time I saw him, 1:05:57.960 --> 1:06:00.560 every time I see him in person, and honestly, when 1:06:00.600 --> 1:06:02.680 I go see him play, he invites me up to play. 1:06:02.840 --> 1:06:04.280 He calls me up on stage and ship, you know 1:06:04.320 --> 1:06:06.040 what I mean. So I don't have a beef for 1:06:06.320 --> 1:06:07.600 no real beef and win you know, some of the 1:06:07.640 --> 1:06:09.440 things he says. It's like, come on, bro, you know, 1:06:09.560 --> 1:06:10.640 but he's fine. 1:06:10.640 --> 1:06:11.080 It's fine. 1:06:11.440 --> 1:06:13.720 And he's never thrown me under the bus in some interview, 1:06:13.880 --> 1:06:16.440 you know, or tried to do anything malicious, but you know, 1:06:16.600 --> 1:06:19.480 so we were texted about that and then finally I 1:06:19.600 --> 1:06:21.600 was like, yo, every time I see him, I say, 1:06:21.600 --> 1:06:23.160 I'm gona get you on some hip hop ship. He 1:06:23.320 --> 1:06:25.480 was like, oh, bro, you know, I'm gonna just deal 1:06:25.560 --> 1:06:27.840 with the swing. I ain't down with the bitches and 1:06:27.880 --> 1:06:28.400 the niggas. 1:06:28.720 --> 1:06:31.880 And I was like, I said that. 1:06:33.120 --> 1:06:35.840 I said, Bro, all hip hop isn't like that. That's 1:06:35.960 --> 1:06:40.600 one little second. Different styles of jazz. That's different and 1:06:40.680 --> 1:06:42.520 I say, if you ever checked out anything I've done, 1:06:42.600 --> 1:06:43.120 you don't hear that? 1:06:43.760 --> 1:06:45.400 He was like, you know, well I don't know. 1:06:45.640 --> 1:06:47.640 Well, well we'll see. But he always says that every 1:06:47.680 --> 1:06:55.520 time I see him the great It's like, come on, bro, 1:06:55.680 --> 1:06:56.720 that's not Yeah, it's so. 1:06:56.800 --> 1:06:58.760 Crazy when at one point you was a young dude 1:06:58.880 --> 1:07:01.320 like and Jack. Jazz beaks are so funny to me. 1:07:01.360 --> 1:07:03.320 They've been happening for like just the beginning. 1:07:03.440 --> 1:07:06.840 It's just have you have you? And have you and 1:07:06.960 --> 1:07:09.840 Lauren ever talked after that? Since posting. 1:07:11.160 --> 1:07:12.000 Radio? You know. 1:07:13.560 --> 1:07:17.080 Racket, Well you do it? Look but look hold on 1:07:17.640 --> 1:07:18.240 and let me on. 1:07:18.280 --> 1:07:20.479 That song so I can also oul branch that moment 1:07:20.520 --> 1:07:21.720 to too. 1:07:21.880 --> 1:07:23.920 Yeah you got you got an you. 1:07:24.000 --> 1:07:24.840 Help feed the fire. 1:07:25.360 --> 1:07:29.400 Got Robert Glass, but Patty Beef, Patty chef, you changed 1:07:29.400 --> 1:07:33.520 the Twitter your Twitter handle to Robert Glass Beef Patty schem. 1:07:35.960 --> 1:07:38.480 No healing, it's no healing, It's no man. 1:07:38.840 --> 1:07:43.439 The Shockers with Marcel Lauren Hill. Lauren Hill known social 1:07:43.520 --> 1:07:48.200 media Twitter. This is a great day. Look I am 1:07:48.400 --> 1:07:52.360 saw her at at what is the north Sea Jazz Festival? 1:07:52.640 --> 1:07:55.080 Just yeah right. 1:07:55.960 --> 1:08:01.800 I literally was sitting outside and a bustuf and it 1:08:01.920 --> 1:08:04.520 was her tour of us, and all the cats came 1:08:04.600 --> 1:08:07.520 off like yo, rah blah blah blah. They were like, well, 1:08:07.600 --> 1:08:10.480 Lauren just got off at the other place. I was like, okay, cool, 1:08:10.600 --> 1:08:12.880 that would have been amazing if I'm sorry, I haven't 1:08:12.880 --> 1:08:15.960 seen them since then. But my thing is my thing 1:08:16.080 --> 1:08:18.800 is that you saw her statement she wrote after that, right. 1:08:19.040 --> 1:08:19.120 It. 1:08:21.040 --> 1:08:21.880 Was so many words. 1:08:22.080 --> 1:08:25.960 It was where emojis in it, And I was like, 1:08:26.000 --> 1:08:30.360 emojis are shot and honestly, and I didn't know it 1:08:30.439 --> 1:08:31.679 was the twenty when I did that interview. 1:08:31.680 --> 1:08:33.720 I didn't know what the twentieth anniversary of fucking that 1:08:34.280 --> 1:08:39.320 the album The Miseducation. Yes, I mean where the guy 1:08:39.840 --> 1:08:42.800 and I've never talked that. My Lauren Hill situation happened 1:08:42.800 --> 1:08:45.240 in two thousand and seven. We did this interview in 1:08:45.640 --> 1:08:50.519 what two thousand and six seven. Yeah, I've never said 1:08:50.560 --> 1:08:54.040 it out loud. On the interview, they asked me, what's 1:08:54.080 --> 1:08:56.400 the worst musical experience you've ever had? And that is 1:08:56.520 --> 1:08:59.320 the first, and that's the first one that ever comes 1:08:59.360 --> 1:09:00.840 to mind, is working with Lauren. 1:09:01.000 --> 1:09:01.679 It was terrible. 1:09:02.000 --> 1:09:05.080 Poison to the truth, the poison text you. 1:09:05.400 --> 1:09:07.280 A lot of people text me, yeah, a lot of 1:09:07.280 --> 1:09:10.599 people text me like thank you, you know, thank you ship. 1:09:11.200 --> 1:09:11.599 We can't. 1:09:11.640 --> 1:09:13.640 I can't say that ship, but thank you. A lot 1:09:13.720 --> 1:09:17.960 of cats it was like good looks you know some 1:09:18.080 --> 1:09:18.920 of them cats you can't. 1:09:19.000 --> 1:09:20.360 They can't. You know, I can say that ship. 1:09:20.400 --> 1:09:22.880 I'm good fuck you know, but you know, and the 1:09:23.040 --> 1:09:25.479 other cats that she uses in that way don't have 1:09:25.560 --> 1:09:28.040 the platform and say ship, you know what I mean? 1:09:28.160 --> 1:09:30.479 So I felt like or the power to station. And 1:09:30.880 --> 1:09:33.120 it wasn't me purposely coming at her. 1:09:33.280 --> 1:09:34.560 It was just that's what it was. 1:09:34.640 --> 1:09:38.960 And everything was truth, everything was fat, and everything's still happening. 1:09:39.040 --> 1:09:39.519 You know what I mean. 1:09:39.600 --> 1:09:42.720 So it's like you a whole gift to jazz in 1:09:42.840 --> 1:09:43.479 so many ways. 1:09:43.880 --> 1:09:46.559 Yeah, well look I'm here. I'm serious. 1:09:46.600 --> 1:09:48.080 I thought about this the other day. I was like, 1:09:48.680 --> 1:09:49.320 wouldn't it be. 1:10:02.720 --> 1:10:04.599 Yeah, the government. 1:10:04.720 --> 1:10:07.320 I thought about that though, would if would if we 1:10:07.400 --> 1:10:08.880 got her on Black Radio three. 1:10:09.760 --> 1:10:12.760 Look man, it's twenty twenty and we're running out of 1:10:12.760 --> 1:10:14.120 space on our Bengo cards. 1:10:14.680 --> 1:10:15.360 You produced it. 1:10:15.360 --> 1:10:19.800 What happened? You produced it? Listen? That would be crazy, bro, 1:10:20.640 --> 1:10:21.040 it was y'all. 1:10:21.040 --> 1:10:21.920 Come up with it, your idea. 1:10:22.040 --> 1:10:23.280 I'm down for it, yo. 1:10:23.479 --> 1:10:25.840 In a silly way, in a silly, weird way. 1:10:26.040 --> 1:10:30.160 I feel like there's a possibility it could possibly happen. 1:10:30.320 --> 1:10:32.200 I think it'd be dope. So I think it happen 1:10:32.200 --> 1:10:34.280 because as an artist, I have nothing against her. She's 1:10:34.320 --> 1:10:35.200 fucking looking credible. 1:10:35.240 --> 1:10:36.800 You might have to extend your due date, but I 1:10:36.880 --> 1:10:37.599 think it could happen. 1:10:37.880 --> 1:10:41.160 One it'll be, Yeah, it'll definitely. It probably won't come 1:10:41.200 --> 1:10:42.240 out to a Black Radio. 1:10:42.040 --> 1:10:46.880 Nineteen but no, it'll be back to the theme of 1:10:46.960 --> 1:10:50.040 the show, and I'll be optimism. 1:10:54.920 --> 1:11:03.479 You're renewed optimism. No, it's gonna get done. Noh, mirror, 1:11:03.479 --> 1:11:04.200 it's gonna get done. 1:11:05.080 --> 1:11:08.759 Listen as as a person that believes in manifesting positive 1:11:08.920 --> 1:11:09.640 energy and. 1:11:12.280 --> 1:11:14.639 Whatnot. Yes, we're gonna make it happen. 1:11:15.560 --> 1:11:18.160 I would love it, I will say, Lauren Hill, we 1:11:18.520 --> 1:11:21.840 are officially putting out the Olive Branch. 1:11:22.280 --> 1:11:22.479 Yeah. 1:11:22.920 --> 1:11:26.680 I think the better the world was better with our 1:11:26.840 --> 1:11:30.320 artistic contributions. It's needed in the world right now. 1:11:30.479 --> 1:11:33.160 So actually really is really is all right? 1:11:33.240 --> 1:11:40.760 So questions while we on optimism the Lauren jail. Yeah, oh, 1:11:40.920 --> 1:11:47.000 I mean, if I'm still aloud, I got sixteen for you. 1:11:53.120 --> 1:12:02.400 Okay, optimistic as question, Brandy, and I want to ask 1:12:02.400 --> 1:12:05.439 you specifically, what is it like tracking her in the studio, 1:12:05.600 --> 1:12:06.360 tracking her vocals? 1:12:07.520 --> 1:12:13.320 Probably Brandy might be the illest tracker I've ever seen. 1:12:13.560 --> 1:12:17.680 It's incredible, bro, I've never seen nobody phase himself out. 1:12:18.080 --> 1:12:20.240 I was gonna ask you about that. I saw another interview. 1:12:20.240 --> 1:12:22.920 Three times in one in in the in the middle 1:12:22.920 --> 1:12:25.280 of doing Optimistic, she phased herself out three times. 1:12:25.560 --> 1:12:28.360 That's how on top of her vocal she is with. 1:12:28.840 --> 1:12:31.920 That's how her vocal she is when she stacks her 1:12:32.040 --> 1:12:35.439 ship is so exactly alike that she fakes the computer 1:12:35.560 --> 1:12:38.840 out and it makes you think you're doing the same 1:12:38.960 --> 1:12:39.559 the track. 1:12:39.400 --> 1:12:40.200 Again or some ship. 1:12:40.240 --> 1:12:41.320 You're not. You know what I mean? 1:12:41.520 --> 1:12:43.280 Because most people, when you read you, when you sing 1:12:43.360 --> 1:12:45.360 something else and you sing it again, sing it again, 1:12:45.439 --> 1:12:47.280 let's stack it, there's always something different. 1:12:48.280 --> 1:12:50.040 It's always an imperfection. 1:12:49.840 --> 1:12:53.200 Something and something. She's so dead on that ship. Phased 1:12:53.240 --> 1:12:56.200 the fuck out three times from the. 1:12:56.240 --> 1:12:58.360 Bread, from the breathing, from when she cut it off 1:12:58.400 --> 1:13:01.680 where the vi bride will stop, like everything is incredible, 1:13:01.840 --> 1:13:02.040 and she. 1:13:02.120 --> 1:13:05.000 Don't leave the booth to the fucking shit's done. It 1:13:05.040 --> 1:13:08.080 ain't like she come out and listen and vibe. She's like, no, 1:13:08.200 --> 1:13:09.639 and she won't stop with the ideas. 1:13:09.680 --> 1:13:12.000 You have to stop her. No Brandy, no more vocal, 1:13:12.120 --> 1:13:17.160 no more stats, no harmony. Yeah, and she wants to 1:13:17.240 --> 1:13:17.439 get it. 1:13:17.560 --> 1:13:21.559 She's so enthusiastic about getting it right and just wanting 1:13:21.600 --> 1:13:23.679 to try more and more ideas. She's not a lazy 1:13:23.720 --> 1:13:27.120 singer at all, you know what I mean. Like, it's 1:13:27.160 --> 1:13:28.800 incredible work with her. Man, she has to be one 1:13:28.840 --> 1:13:31.280 of the nicest too, you know what I mean. Like 1:13:31.520 --> 1:13:33.760 even when I did when she was on my Black 1:13:33.920 --> 1:13:38.080 Radio album before that, she paid for the studio time 1:13:38.320 --> 1:13:40.479 because she was late the other time or something like that. 1:13:40.640 --> 1:13:43.000 She couldn't make it, and she was like, yo, she 1:13:43.120 --> 1:13:44.280 paid for the studio time. 1:13:44.320 --> 1:13:45.680 And she you know what I mean, I didn't even 1:13:45.720 --> 1:13:48.280 know where back then. You know, she's just this is 1:13:48.320 --> 1:13:49.840 such a nice, really really nice person. 1:13:50.920 --> 1:13:53.840 Black Radio on Black Radio two, Man, you had a 1:13:53.960 --> 1:13:56.880 record it was, It was a lot of records on 1:13:56.920 --> 1:13:57.360 the album. 1:13:57.360 --> 1:14:00.400 I love. I really love the Emily Son sending joint that. 1:14:01.560 --> 1:14:02.160 Yeah, I love. 1:14:02.240 --> 1:14:03.920 That's just a great song, just the lyrics. 1:14:04.000 --> 1:14:06.200 Yeah, that's great, dude. She wrote that ship in twenty minutes. 1:14:06.560 --> 1:14:07.240 Are you serious? 1:14:07.960 --> 1:14:10.720 That song? That song originally Mary J. 1:14:10.840 --> 1:14:13.760 Blog was supposed to sing it, and whoa. 1:14:14.600 --> 1:14:17.760 I had lyrics and everything already done, but getting with 1:14:17.880 --> 1:14:20.639 Mary just always kept, you know, we couldn't make it happen. 1:14:20.960 --> 1:14:23.360 So I had the lyrics in the song. I even 1:14:23.400 --> 1:14:25.400 had the song sung by somebody else to you know. 1:14:26.720 --> 1:14:29.639 Emily was in town and she came by the studio 1:14:29.720 --> 1:14:31.519 and I played her the song and. 1:14:31.840 --> 1:14:33.040 She was like, I love it. 1:14:33.120 --> 1:14:34.400 I love it. She's like, do you mind if I 1:14:34.680 --> 1:14:35.400 changed the lyrics. 1:14:35.439 --> 1:14:37.760 I was like, no, do what you feel. 1:14:38.000 --> 1:14:40.599 She got a pin and pad out, walked around, wrote 1:14:40.600 --> 1:14:44.599 that joint like twenty minutes, bro wow literally and put 1:14:44.640 --> 1:14:47.720 that ship down the record town for the Great Great 1:14:47.880 --> 1:14:49.400 Gatsby premiere Some ship. 1:14:50.400 --> 1:14:54.320 Yeah, yeah, the record you did with the Nora record 1:14:54.400 --> 1:14:55.080 that Mossino. 1:14:55.920 --> 1:14:57.000 Yeah, I love that joint. 1:14:57.040 --> 1:14:59.200 Man, how did y'a you and Mussina like mosing the 1:14:59.200 --> 1:15:02.519 shot like family. 1:15:04.280 --> 1:15:07.839 Yeah, and y'all's cover of God Rest You Married Gentlemen. 1:15:08.320 --> 1:15:10.160 Oh yeah, I need you to send me that. 1:15:10.240 --> 1:15:10.720 I love it. 1:15:10.760 --> 1:15:13.880 Yeah. For years I kept doing I would do that 1:15:14.000 --> 1:15:15.560 with different artists every year I was. 1:15:15.640 --> 1:15:17.800 I would just pick an artist, hit them up, like, yeah, 1:15:17.800 --> 1:15:19.680 you want to do a Christmas song together, you know, 1:15:20.320 --> 1:15:22.160 and then I'll send them the music and then put 1:15:22.240 --> 1:15:23.479 some sin on it and we put it out. I 1:15:23.520 --> 1:15:25.040 did it with Dubie Power, I did it with Kim Bare, 1:15:25.240 --> 1:15:27.880 did her a few different people. Just throw it out, 1:15:28.240 --> 1:15:30.200 throw it out there for you know, for fun. But 1:15:30.680 --> 1:15:33.240 that joint, the Nora Jones joint. So me and Nora 1:15:33.360 --> 1:15:37.599 went to jazz camp together in high school in eleventh grade. 1:15:37.880 --> 1:15:39.600 Matter of fact, I'm here, you have something to do 1:15:39.680 --> 1:15:40.080 with this too. 1:15:40.880 --> 1:15:43.639 Wait, I'm a connector. 1:15:43.880 --> 1:15:44.639 You're a connector. 1:15:44.720 --> 1:15:46.920 You don't even know it. 1:15:47.200 --> 1:15:50.160 So, uh, Me and Nora went to high school to 1:15:50.320 --> 1:15:52.519 jazz camp together in eleventh grade. 1:15:53.000 --> 1:15:54.960 So that's where I knew her from then. 1:15:55.080 --> 1:15:57.880 When I got to New York, I saw her my 1:15:57.960 --> 1:16:01.120 freshman year at she was at college in the practice 1:16:01.160 --> 1:16:02.559 room at my college at the piano. 1:16:02.920 --> 1:16:04.240 I looked in him there. I was like, Norah and 1:16:04.360 --> 1:16:04.880 I walked in there. 1:16:04.880 --> 1:16:05.639 I was like, what are you doing? 1:16:05.760 --> 1:16:07.559 She's like She's like, oh, I'm working on the demo. 1:16:08.080 --> 1:16:11.160 I was like, oh dope. Next time I saw her 1:16:11.439 --> 1:16:14.080 was on TV when of all the damn Grammys. After that, 1:16:14.960 --> 1:16:18.200 After that, I sat in with the roots at Radio City. 1:16:18.640 --> 1:16:20.719 Remember you did them two nights at Radio City. 1:16:22.320 --> 1:16:24.280 Oh crap, I forgot, dude. 1:16:24.400 --> 1:16:26.720 That was one of the when people ask me some 1:16:26.880 --> 1:16:30.360 of my top moments being on stage of Crazy Ship. 1:16:31.760 --> 1:16:32.240 That's right. 1:16:32.360 --> 1:16:33.200 We did remember when. 1:16:33.600 --> 1:16:35.840 Came Yeah, ok. 1:16:37.439 --> 1:16:37.479 J. 1:16:38.000 --> 1:16:39.320 He showed up. He didn't know that he. 1:16:39.320 --> 1:16:40.879 Could play Radio City musical. 1:16:42.240 --> 1:16:48.280 Dude, never forget that ship where yeah and they got 1:16:48.320 --> 1:16:51.800 and and I never forget in the in the in theres, 1:16:51.840 --> 1:16:53.599 you were like jay Z's here. 1:16:56.000 --> 1:16:57.000 And we did up. 1:16:57.160 --> 1:16:59.679 We did a boom boom. 1:16:59.320 --> 1:17:01.200 Yeah, we started playing. 1:17:02.080 --> 1:17:04.639 He walked out and had this back to the audience 1:17:04.680 --> 1:17:07.000 to the hoodie young and the lights is off. We 1:17:07.080 --> 1:17:09.560 started playing that on line and no one knew he 1:17:09.680 --> 1:17:13.200 was coming. When we started playing that baseline the lights flash, 1:17:13.320 --> 1:17:15.800 he pulled his hoodie up like this still with his 1:17:15.920 --> 1:17:16.839 back to the audience. 1:17:17.560 --> 1:17:17.920 And then. 1:17:19.439 --> 1:17:22.600 Uh dude, when they when he turned to do the 1:17:22.720 --> 1:17:27.400 amount of like it was so crazy, bro, Like, I'll 1:17:27.439 --> 1:17:29.600 never forget that moment. I'll never forget that moment. And 1:17:29.680 --> 1:17:31.559 that's where I met Dave too. That's where I met 1:17:31.640 --> 1:17:34.200 Chapelle too. I gave him piano. Listen backstage at that show. 1:17:34.800 --> 1:17:37.560 Oh so you're the one that taught him After midnight, 1:17:37.720 --> 1:17:41.800 he's still still. 1:17:40.960 --> 1:17:42.439 Playing that ship he played. 1:17:42.640 --> 1:17:45.000 He did a solo piano at my Blue Note residency 1:17:45.439 --> 1:17:46.160 last October. 1:17:46.479 --> 1:17:48.960 He went on stage by himself and played ro Midnight 1:17:49.040 --> 1:17:52.719 on my piano by himself, and thank you and walked off. 1:17:57.600 --> 1:18:00.719 Playing that flight Twitter. He played that party like he's. 1:18:03.439 --> 1:18:06.519 But anyway, at that show, a regularly show after it, 1:18:07.160 --> 1:18:09.479 the after party thing upstairs or something like that. 1:18:09.720 --> 1:18:14.759 And I'm sitting on I'm sitting next to you talking 1:18:14.880 --> 1:18:16.000 or next to somebody next to you. 1:18:16.080 --> 1:18:17.320 Let me be one of two people over for you, 1:18:17.960 --> 1:18:20.840 and I reached for some ice and Nora was on 1:18:20.920 --> 1:18:23.200 the other side of you, and she reached for some ice. 1:18:23.960 --> 1:18:28.519 And that's what we were, like, Oh, what's up? 1:18:29.920 --> 1:18:31.760 And then we got these other We changed numbers and 1:18:31.840 --> 1:18:33.880 that's how we just kept kept in connection, you know, 1:18:34.000 --> 1:18:36.360 from that, you know, but she killed that joint. 1:18:36.400 --> 1:18:36.519 Man. 1:18:36.560 --> 1:18:37.120 I love Nora. 1:18:37.320 --> 1:18:41.000 I love hearing Nora in other situations. Her voice is 1:18:41.120 --> 1:18:42.000 so dope, you know. 1:18:42.120 --> 1:18:44.240 So I really love that song. 1:18:44.320 --> 1:18:48.720 It's really dobe Let it ride, Yeah, and was sick. 1:18:48.800 --> 1:18:50.760 She didn't want to write it. I sent it to 1:18:50.840 --> 1:18:53.040 Messina and I said, and I didn't know who was 1:18:53.080 --> 1:18:55.360 going to sing it yet. I just I wrote the song, 1:18:55.439 --> 1:18:57.360 and I was like, I need some lyrics and I 1:18:57.439 --> 1:18:59.960 said him, hey, write something to this and I need 1:19:00.080 --> 1:19:01.519 to get it done by this week. I don't know 1:19:01.520 --> 1:19:03.160 who going to sing it, but write it. And she 1:19:03.320 --> 1:19:05.639 was like, I'm really sick. I don't feel I said, 1:19:05.880 --> 1:19:11.680 write the damn song. Writ song okay, and wrote that 1:19:11.800 --> 1:19:13.280 joint and send it to me the next day. 1:19:13.920 --> 1:19:17.519 And who have you yet to? Uh? 1:19:19.080 --> 1:19:21.040 I guess for Phil bucket list wise? I mean, I'm 1:19:21.080 --> 1:19:24.840 sure there's everybody, but what close calls have you had 1:19:26.439 --> 1:19:28.240 with your projects that you didn't get a chance to 1:19:28.280 --> 1:19:35.080 work with yet? Don't say her name. As I was 1:19:35.120 --> 1:19:37.800 asking this question, I'm like, oh god, no, do you 1:19:37.880 --> 1:19:42.719 think I'm gonna say, Oh you don't remember the Oh. 1:19:44.200 --> 1:19:46.559 Yeah mail the roof? 1:19:53.280 --> 1:19:55.160 That so hard? What she does? 1:19:55.280 --> 1:19:56.240 A man call her up? 1:19:57.560 --> 1:20:02.400 Yeah? Before Solane came through like a champ, and. 1:20:04.160 --> 1:20:06.680 So she was gonna do that the little Dragon cover. 1:20:08.400 --> 1:20:12.760 Yes, Wow, what's she doing with the doing? 1:20:12.800 --> 1:20:16.519 What we trying to make it? Yeah? Yeah, it didn't 1:20:16.520 --> 1:20:23.920 really work out, so yeah, who who else? 1:20:24.720 --> 1:20:24.880 From? 1:20:26.439 --> 1:20:26.679 Look? 1:20:26.880 --> 1:20:29.960 I have a song in my computer. I did the 1:20:30.000 --> 1:20:31.120 song with the Baker. 1:20:33.880 --> 1:20:34.880 Was yo? 1:20:35.200 --> 1:20:38.400 Was it for the Blue Note album? That like never yes, 1:20:38.800 --> 1:20:39.160 because she. 1:20:40.640 --> 1:20:44.280 Yeah, she did a cover of Lately by tyree which 1:20:44.439 --> 1:20:46.000 on paper sounds insane. 1:20:46.280 --> 1:20:51.080 Wait what, bro, you never heard. 1:20:52.760 --> 1:20:57.920 Anita Baker covered Lately by Tyresee And it is fucking amazing. 1:20:58.160 --> 1:20:59.559 Niggas. She bodied that ship. 1:21:00.360 --> 1:21:02.320 Oh, it's like it's the only it's like one of 1:21:02.400 --> 1:21:04.160 her only so if it's still on because you know, 1:21:04.160 --> 1:21:06.360 not none of her shit on streaming. It's like one 1:21:06.400 --> 1:21:09.559 of the only joints of hers that's like on streaming 1:21:09.600 --> 1:21:13.519 services that came out, that song came out, that song 1:21:13.600 --> 1:21:16.799 came out, that came out. Oh my gosh, she bodied 1:21:16.800 --> 1:21:18.600 that ship. Bro, I like, I was like lately she 1:21:18.760 --> 1:21:19.400 covered Lately? 1:21:21.120 --> 1:21:22.200 Yeah, no, I was. 1:21:22.320 --> 1:21:22.439 Uh. 1:21:23.080 --> 1:21:25.640 It happened because we were both on Blueou at the 1:21:25.680 --> 1:21:30.000 same time and Don was was trying to hook us up, 1:21:30.880 --> 1:21:32.880 like he also hooked me up with Shaka Khan, and 1:21:32.960 --> 1:21:35.519 I was, I produced a half a record on I 1:21:35.560 --> 1:21:38.240 have four songs on Shaka, We're gonna do a whole 1:21:38.240 --> 1:21:40.519 word went in to do a whole album because he 1:21:40.600 --> 1:21:42.479 gave her Black Radio. It was like, just check this 1:21:42.560 --> 1:21:44.519 guy out to do your album. Because she was going 1:21:44.600 --> 1:21:46.519 to do a record with Blue Note. So she's like, 1:21:46.560 --> 1:21:48.000 oh my God, I love it. I met up with 1:21:48.120 --> 1:21:50.800 her Boom boom. We went and did a week in La, 1:21:51.200 --> 1:21:53.320 did like four or five songs, and then her deal 1:21:53.400 --> 1:21:56.720 with Blue Note with some went left. So I got 1:21:56.880 --> 1:21:59.880 five songs of Shaka in my computer that I don't 1:21:59.880 --> 1:22:02.719 know I was ever gonna come out. But with Anita, 1:22:03.760 --> 1:22:06.920 she was working finishing that album. She was finishing it up, 1:22:07.320 --> 1:22:10.519 and I tweeted I was landing in La. I'll never 1:22:10.520 --> 1:22:12.880 forget it. I tweeted, I'm in La. Blah blah blah blah. 1:22:13.160 --> 1:22:15.920 She tweeted me, Oh, come by the studio. 1:22:16.080 --> 1:22:22.519 I was like, what they're like, I neither. 1:22:22.880 --> 1:22:24.720 She was like, yeah, come by the. 1:22:24.680 --> 1:22:26.479 Studio and listen to some of the stuff I've been doing. 1:22:26.960 --> 1:22:29.080 Her son is a DJ. He goes to he at 1:22:29.080 --> 1:22:30.479 the time. He's like going to Berkeley. He's a big 1:22:30.560 --> 1:22:34.760 fan of mine. So you know that helps, you know, 1:22:36.160 --> 1:22:38.639 you know what I mean. So I went by the studio. 1:22:39.240 --> 1:22:41.320 She played me the album and she was like, what 1:22:41.439 --> 1:22:43.200 do you think? And I even fixed some stuff for 1:22:43.439 --> 1:22:46.439 keyboard parts and some stuff. She's like, you know, did 1:22:46.479 --> 1:22:48.920 some things on there. She was like, Man, if I 1:22:48.920 --> 1:22:50.360 would have known you were coming to town, I would 1:22:50.400 --> 1:22:52.240 have did a song with you. I said, don't play. 1:22:52.880 --> 1:22:53.559 I said, I write a. 1:22:53.520 --> 1:22:56.200 Song right now, said right now, right now. 1:22:56.840 --> 1:22:58.880 She was like, I mean, but I got to turn 1:22:58.960 --> 1:23:00.000 in this album in two days. 1:23:00.280 --> 1:23:01.080 I was like, I need it. 1:23:01.840 --> 1:23:06.519 Yeah, bro, Look first of all, when I walked to 1:23:06.560 --> 1:23:08.479 the studio, she's making ribs. Let's just talk about this 1:23:08.560 --> 1:23:15.200 for a second. Black the blackness of us. The vocal 1:23:15.479 --> 1:23:18.599 booth was next to the kitchen. It's the same studio, 1:23:18.760 --> 1:23:25.679 same studio, same studio. She did Angel in same studio, all. 1:23:24.160 --> 1:23:28.120 Of the same one. Because he's on Glenn Record, using 1:23:28.200 --> 1:23:28.719 that record. 1:23:28.880 --> 1:23:31.040 That's that's what that's well back then when I did 1:23:31.080 --> 1:23:32.479 that song. That was three years ago when I did 1:23:32.520 --> 1:23:36.479 that song. When I did that, yes, so she had an. 1:23:36.360 --> 1:23:38.920 Oven mess and everything. You hungry. I'm making some ribs. 1:23:39.120 --> 1:23:39.559 I'm like, what. 1:23:41.240 --> 1:23:44.840 Ribs doesn't get you better? Anita Baker offered me ribs 1:23:45.120 --> 1:23:49.800 in the studio she did Angel. I'm good so anyway, uh, 1:23:49.960 --> 1:23:51.840 but she said that. I was like, Anita, I'm gonna 1:23:51.880 --> 1:23:53.760 write something for you right now. I literally went to 1:23:53.840 --> 1:23:56.920 the piano. I swear the guy I wrote some shit 1:23:57.000 --> 1:23:58.720 and like I live and breathe me. The Baker like 1:23:58.800 --> 1:24:02.120 giving you the best that I got is that's one 1:24:02.200 --> 1:24:04.479 reason between giving you the best that I got. 1:24:06.520 --> 1:24:08.760 Between that my mom. 1:24:11.320 --> 1:24:14.439 Look, I mean it was like thriller. 1:24:14.560 --> 1:24:19.320 So it's like, yeah, you and the fans always want 1:24:19.360 --> 1:24:23.040 to outdo someone. Let you know that compositions is your record. 1:24:23.600 --> 1:24:26.600 That's the one man ship. That composition was a motherfucker. 1:24:26.800 --> 1:24:32.160 Look between that and Luther Van Draws albums. Matt Adeley Jr. Yes, 1:24:32.360 --> 1:24:35.320 those were those sounds. Maybe want to play piano period, like, 1:24:35.400 --> 1:24:37.000 because that's all we heard. I heard that in the 1:24:37.040 --> 1:24:40.280 house a lot. Anyway, I wrote the song like ten minutes. 1:24:40.760 --> 1:24:44.800 I went over Andre Harris's crib. I said, Yo, I 1:24:45.040 --> 1:24:46.200 need you to put some ship on here. 1:24:46.240 --> 1:24:46.640 As for thee. 1:24:46.720 --> 1:24:48.360 The baker was like. 1:24:48.479 --> 1:24:52.679 Cool, nigga, put drums, bass, guitar, did that shit. 1:24:52.760 --> 1:24:56.080 About an hour. We called sir over. Sir came over 1:24:56.160 --> 1:24:59.559 to the crib and did his own ship and wrote. 1:24:59.360 --> 1:25:01.639 The song say it down. We email her the song 1:25:01.760 --> 1:25:02.080 that night. 1:25:02.200 --> 1:25:06.200 She learned it that night, came to the studio, sang 1:25:06.240 --> 1:25:10.280 it down in one take, wow, and then said then 1:25:10.360 --> 1:25:11.040 said this to me. 1:25:11.200 --> 1:25:14.200 She said, only in my life three times has a 1:25:14.280 --> 1:25:17.040 song fit me like a tour address. This is the third. 1:25:18.360 --> 1:25:18.960 I didn't know where. 1:25:20.520 --> 1:25:21.479 I didn't know what that shi it was. 1:25:23.640 --> 1:25:23.920 That is. 1:25:27.560 --> 1:25:27.960 All right? 1:25:29.120 --> 1:25:34.800 Represent yeah, any she was like, I don't know what. 1:25:35.640 --> 1:25:36.800 I was like so so. 1:25:40.680 --> 1:25:47.439 Brother exactly that shoe pop. No, that subtle, but yeah 1:25:47.479 --> 1:25:49.080 she said that. She was like there was a thing 1:25:49.240 --> 1:25:51.679 that George Duke did for her, some kind of arrangement 1:25:51.760 --> 1:25:54.680 of something. And then I forget the other song. But 1:25:54.760 --> 1:25:57.240 she was like, this is the third. She literally sung 1:25:57.320 --> 1:25:58.400 it down on one take. 1:25:59.400 --> 1:26:00.920 But what. 1:26:02.479 --> 1:26:03.160 Where is it now? 1:26:03.400 --> 1:26:03.599 Yeah? 1:26:03.640 --> 1:26:04.960 Where in my computer? 1:26:05.439 --> 1:26:08.240 In that computer is talking to us on my computer 1:26:08.560 --> 1:26:09.040 talking to. 1:26:10.720 --> 1:26:12.800 Is in that one that computer and the computer with 1:26:13.160 --> 1:26:17.799 email on it, the way. 1:26:19.840 --> 1:26:21.520 That computer with a drum bow. 1:26:26.040 --> 1:26:29.559 Triangles triangle every six hours with my air drop. 1:26:29.680 --> 1:26:34.920 Okay, my dream I wanted. I'm going to hit her 1:26:34.960 --> 1:26:36.200 up because I wanted to. I want to see if 1:26:36.200 --> 1:26:37.880 I could use it for Black Radio three. That's what 1:26:37.960 --> 1:26:40.439 I Yeah, yeah, I want to do it so bad. 1:26:41.160 --> 1:26:44.120 That's my hopes for George. 1:26:44.439 --> 1:26:46.880 You mentioned George, do did you if you and him 1:26:47.280 --> 1:26:49.040 before he died? Did y'all have a hook up. 1:26:49.080 --> 1:26:52.559 Or opened up for George? For like nine shows in Europe? 1:26:53.680 --> 1:27:00.240 He never remembered me after any of the shows. You know, 1:27:00.400 --> 1:27:02.520 people like that, they up to bed George. 1:27:02.240 --> 1:27:02.400 You know. 1:27:03.120 --> 1:27:05.280 And this was back in like you I don't know, oh. 1:27:07.040 --> 1:27:07.760 Eight oh nine. 1:27:07.840 --> 1:27:09.360 You know, I was over like three years. 1:27:09.400 --> 1:27:11.479 So you know, I wouldn't ship really, you know, so 1:27:12.000 --> 1:27:13.760 I'm not tripping because he's George dude, you know what 1:27:13.800 --> 1:27:16.760 I mean. But after each show in different cities, I'd 1:27:16.800 --> 1:27:17.920 be like, hey, hey, misster, do. 1:27:18.000 --> 1:27:18.439 How you doing. 1:27:18.479 --> 1:27:18.599 Man? 1:27:18.600 --> 1:27:20.880 He'd be like, hey, what that face? 1:27:21.920 --> 1:27:23.320 And I'd be like, I'm a rob. 1:27:23.400 --> 1:27:28.559 I played key keys early earlier before you start every 1:27:29.200 --> 1:27:32.400 and every every night, every night. But you know he 1:27:32.400 --> 1:27:34.280 ain't coming to the sound, you know, to the the 1:27:34.320 --> 1:27:36.439 shows before him, so you know. But then we finally 1:27:36.520 --> 1:27:39.559 got to connect in a real way at International Jazz Day, 1:27:39.640 --> 1:27:42.439 not that one I talked about, but before and it 1:27:42.600 --> 1:27:47.160 was in Turkey and me and him and Herbie like 1:27:47.280 --> 1:27:49.040 got a chance to hang out and sit down and 1:27:49.120 --> 1:27:50.800 talk and you know what I mean, chop it up 1:27:51.240 --> 1:27:55.880 in that and that's in that situation passed. He literally passed. 1:27:56.080 --> 1:27:58.439 I'm not the peer of them, but he literally passed 1:27:59.200 --> 1:28:05.120 a few musts. You know, play keys, henew play keys 1:28:05.160 --> 1:28:07.120 as far as I got, but there he passed a few, 1:28:07.160 --> 1:28:08.920 a few days, a few a few months later after that? 1:28:13.479 --> 1:28:18.280 All right, so who who is the the hero figure that? 1:28:19.240 --> 1:28:21.920 All right? There you go, are you gonna say? 1:28:23.400 --> 1:28:24.799 Herby comes Tobod Herbie? 1:28:25.120 --> 1:28:26.519 He just about to ask you what is it like? 1:28:26.600 --> 1:28:28.920 Because I mean the last show I went to with yours, 1:28:29.160 --> 1:28:29.880 you did this whole thing. 1:28:29.960 --> 1:28:31.200 He was like, oh, I'm about to go take a 1:28:31.240 --> 1:28:33.439 bathroom break, and he was I'm half somebody feeling for 1:28:33.520 --> 1:28:35.000 me real quick, and it was Herbie. 1:28:34.760 --> 1:28:37.800 Headcock And I'm like, what the like, what does that 1:28:37.960 --> 1:28:41.080 feel like to be you? And that relationship with that man? 1:28:41.400 --> 1:28:44.280 Man, he's so awesome and he loves to he loves 1:28:44.320 --> 1:28:46.560 to be around because he you know, you got that 1:28:46.720 --> 1:28:48.840 from Miles I think, you know, just like you know, 1:28:48.960 --> 1:28:51.760 wanting to soak up the younger energy and just be around. 1:28:53.320 --> 1:28:56.320 On that that was him, That was always him. So yeah, 1:28:56.360 --> 1:28:58.280 that's my dude, man, Like I love Herbie. 1:28:58.680 --> 1:29:01.840 He's so open and cool and he just pulls up 1:29:02.080 --> 1:29:04.280 like he always pulls up, pulls up to the shows, 1:29:04.320 --> 1:29:04.800 pulls up. 1:29:04.760 --> 1:29:05.599 To my last record. 1:29:05.640 --> 1:29:08.920 He's on my last record, fuck your Feelings because I 1:29:09.520 --> 1:29:11.200 he just heard I was in the studio and just. 1:29:11.280 --> 1:29:11.760 Pull it up. 1:29:14.320 --> 1:29:16.400 I was like, oh ship, you know, okay, cool And 1:29:16.520 --> 1:29:20.920 he pulled up to fucking Hinson and I was like, yo, 1:29:22.600 --> 1:29:25.280 but you here, you wanna no, no, no, no, you know, 1:29:27.400 --> 1:29:30.439 just speaking to your point. Me and Herbie talked maybe 1:29:30.520 --> 1:29:33.360 two three weeks ago. He said, this is the longest 1:29:33.400 --> 1:29:36.599 time he's ever gone without touching his piano. Oh wow, 1:29:37.560 --> 1:29:39.360 he said. He's in the same funk. He was like, man, 1:29:39.400 --> 1:29:41.400 I'm not even that. I don't feel like you know, 1:29:41.479 --> 1:29:44.960 He's like, I've never gone seven months or wherever long 1:29:45.000 --> 1:29:47.080 it's been when I'm touching my piano. 1:29:47.240 --> 1:29:49.519 He's like, it's just sitting there. He's like, He's just 1:29:49.720 --> 1:29:50.519 it's just sitting there. 1:29:50.880 --> 1:29:51.040 You know. 1:29:52.120 --> 1:29:52.360 Wow. 1:29:52.520 --> 1:29:52.680 You know. 1:29:52.800 --> 1:29:56.160 So I was like, you gotta take a break, you 1:29:56.240 --> 1:29:58.479 gotta you gotta take a break and then come back 1:29:58.520 --> 1:29:58.720 to it. 1:29:59.560 --> 1:30:00.400 I was gonna to ask. 1:30:00.920 --> 1:30:03.479 I think it's different for keyboard players now because of 1:30:03.560 --> 1:30:07.759 the the advanced way that technology moves in your world, 1:30:08.400 --> 1:30:12.160 Whereas at least with me personally, like I'm not too 1:30:12.320 --> 1:30:17.040 interested in you know, like new drums, and you know, 1:30:17.160 --> 1:30:19.559 the company always be like, you know, these are special 1:30:20.520 --> 1:30:23.080 trees that we used in Japan to make it, you know, And. 1:30:23.400 --> 1:30:25.840 I always tell them like, give me this trashy he 1:30:26.439 --> 1:30:28.839 the high school set. It's all in your touch anyway. 1:30:28.880 --> 1:30:30.439 It's all your touch anyway. Right. 1:30:30.680 --> 1:30:35.080 So as far as being a are you a gear 1:30:35.280 --> 1:30:39.800 head or are you just using the same. 1:30:42.600 --> 1:30:44.400 I am not, you know what, because when people were 1:30:44.439 --> 1:30:47.960 doing gear ship, I was just practicing on being really 1:30:47.960 --> 1:30:48.719 good at the piano. 1:30:50.200 --> 1:30:50.760 You know what I'm saying. 1:30:50.760 --> 1:30:54.479 I've never because my whole thing was always acoustic piano. 1:30:54.640 --> 1:30:57.840 So that's been my thing for such a long time. 1:30:58.280 --> 1:31:00.960 Even when I got signed a Blue Note piano trio, 1:31:01.080 --> 1:31:02.639 shit acoustic piano. 1:31:02.720 --> 1:31:05.000 It wasn't even keyboards. Yeah, I wasn't even using keyboards 1:31:05.200 --> 1:31:05.639 for a while. 1:31:05.680 --> 1:31:08.559 They're putting piano acoustic pianos and clubs for me because 1:31:08.560 --> 1:31:10.680 I didn't want to play jazz clubs anymore. I want 1:31:10.720 --> 1:31:13.519 to play cool shit hip hop venues and shit like that. 1:31:13.920 --> 1:31:16.000 And I was trying to get grand pianos in there. 1:31:16.040 --> 1:31:18.160 So Stein would put pianos in there for me and Ship, 1:31:18.200 --> 1:31:20.040 but a lot of times that sound would be fucked up. 1:31:20.400 --> 1:31:21.960 It wouldn't sound good, you know what I mean. And 1:31:22.040 --> 1:31:24.200 so I like, okay, let me get the key let 1:31:24.200 --> 1:31:26.599 me do the keyboard thing. But I've never really been 1:31:27.120 --> 1:31:30.360 a gearhead at all. People think I am for some reason, 1:31:30.680 --> 1:31:32.080 but to. 1:31:32.120 --> 1:31:34.720 Me it always seemed like I think that's the gearhead thing. 1:31:34.840 --> 1:31:37.280 Is more so for people who think of themselves as 1:31:37.400 --> 1:31:40.479 producers first or right, you always kind of seem like 1:31:41.040 --> 1:31:43.280 a player, you know, primarily. 1:31:43.240 --> 1:31:45.599 Yeah, I know we need strings. I know a string 1:31:45.640 --> 1:31:47.479 player that can do that, like we did when we 1:31:47.600 --> 1:31:51.840 fucking did the twice. You know, A mir wasn't like, YO, 1:31:51.960 --> 1:31:55.679 pull up some strings sounds he called some cellos and violins, 1:31:55.800 --> 1:31:56.280 you know what I mean. 1:31:56.600 --> 1:31:58.400 We know those guys. We don't need the patch. 1:31:58.680 --> 1:31:59.240 I know them. 1:32:00.320 --> 1:32:02.120 I'm always that to you know, and all the patches 1:32:02.160 --> 1:32:04.479 that're like, but it sounds real. This one sounds realer 1:32:04.560 --> 1:32:07.080 than that one. I'm like, I know real people people, 1:32:12.840 --> 1:32:15.439 but I would imagine. 1:32:15.120 --> 1:32:17.080 Now, keep a musician's employed. That's dope. 1:32:17.560 --> 1:32:20.680 Yeah, And obviously obviously you got to tap into it 1:32:20.760 --> 1:32:24.720 a little bit, because you can't just get musicians like 1:32:24.840 --> 1:32:27.680 this anymore, especially now. So that's why now I've been 1:32:27.760 --> 1:32:31.280 even tappingto it, tapping into just sounds and getting all 1:32:31.320 --> 1:32:33.880 the plug ins and stuff like that, even even if 1:32:33.880 --> 1:32:36.599 it's for demo demo's sake, you know what I mean. 1:32:36.640 --> 1:32:38.920 I'll do stuff like that, but I'm just such a 1:32:39.760 --> 1:32:40.719 live person. 1:32:41.040 --> 1:32:43.680 That's just my thing, you know. I would imagine, like 1:32:44.200 --> 1:32:46.759 you know, I'll say, like maybe what Steve. 1:32:47.160 --> 1:32:50.280 Like once every four months, the rolling guy comes in 1:32:50.400 --> 1:32:54.240 with new toys and whatnot, and we're like, oh, it's 1:32:54.439 --> 1:32:56.040 like Christmas all over again. 1:32:56.560 --> 1:32:57.479 Like I'm certain that. 1:32:57.880 --> 1:33:02.920 Everyyboard maker from Yamaha to like all these guys are. 1:33:04.360 --> 1:33:07.760 Like, I off to you try our product. Well here 1:33:07.840 --> 1:33:08.599 here's the thing though. 1:33:08.680 --> 1:33:12.080 I was on Yamaha for a long time, but they 1:33:12.200 --> 1:33:14.960 wasn't giving me that love you were talking about. I 1:33:15.080 --> 1:33:20.160 was like, hey, yeah, yeah, because I'm like, yo, why 1:33:20.200 --> 1:33:23.000 am I having to call the m D for Alicia 1:33:23.120 --> 1:33:26.599 Keys to get to the head of Yamaha Keyboards. 1:33:26.720 --> 1:33:28.559 I'm actually a keyboard player, but. 1:33:28.600 --> 1:33:30.799 I have R and B, Grammys and hip I'm Grammys 1:33:30.800 --> 1:33:33.280 and ship I'm here, Hey this works. 1:33:33.080 --> 1:33:34.280 For you guys, you know. 1:33:34.880 --> 1:33:38.439 But the m ds of the people get those people 1:33:38.520 --> 1:33:40.519 get those looks, and I'm like, yo, but I'm an 1:33:40.520 --> 1:33:42.400 actual panel player, like you know what I mean, Like 1:33:43.040 --> 1:33:45.360 I should get those looks, and I wasn't getting them. 1:33:45.479 --> 1:33:49.000 So I left and and like you said before, everybody 1:33:49.080 --> 1:33:51.400 else is like yo, for for years wanted to me. 1:33:51.479 --> 1:33:54.640 So I'm on cork now, you know, and they should me. 1:33:54.800 --> 1:33:57.360 They're great. I have to stop them from giving me shit. 1:33:57.400 --> 1:33:57.960 You're right, I do. 1:34:00.160 --> 1:34:01.920 It's yeah, how many? Well? 1:34:01.960 --> 1:34:06.000 The thing is is that when keyboards are manufactured and 1:34:06.400 --> 1:34:09.200 they put all those patches inside of one thing, like, 1:34:09.360 --> 1:34:11.280 does it matter how much product they make? 1:34:11.479 --> 1:34:15.280 Like, isn't it just the same version of basically? 1:34:15.360 --> 1:34:20.439 But for me, what interested me in keyboards initially too, 1:34:20.720 --> 1:34:22.800 was because I started needing to use a keyboard on 1:34:22.840 --> 1:34:25.040 the road when I was playing my shows, and I 1:34:25.160 --> 1:34:29.040 needed something that felt good, that felt close to a 1:34:29.160 --> 1:34:31.720 piano as possible, and that sounded as close to a 1:34:31.800 --> 1:34:34.200 piano as possible. So that's what I became interested in 1:34:34.280 --> 1:34:38.360 plugins and interested in different keyboards because you know, but 1:34:38.720 --> 1:34:40.840 so the one I have now, the one I use now, 1:34:40.920 --> 1:34:45.840 the Chronos, feels the best when it comes to me 1:34:46.080 --> 1:34:48.000 having to get around like that, you know what I mean, 1:34:48.120 --> 1:34:50.400 like really get around. So for me it was always 1:34:50.439 --> 1:34:54.000 that what felt the best, you know, because at my shows, yeah, 1:34:54.040 --> 1:34:56.240 I use a piano and I always have a Fender 1:34:56.320 --> 1:34:59.560 roads and then I have something on top, you know, 1:35:00.000 --> 1:35:02.080 I'm kind of like I have a smaller crogos on 1:35:02.160 --> 1:35:04.200 top for my extra little sounds here and now. For 1:35:04.240 --> 1:35:06.080 for years I didn't have to do a lot of 1:35:06.120 --> 1:35:08.240 sounds because I had Casey Benjamin, he had a million 1:35:08.280 --> 1:35:09.200 sounds and this ship. 1:35:09.320 --> 1:35:12.880 Right right right, Yeah, I remember we did that gig 1:35:12.960 --> 1:35:17.280 at that sound was a rouge ands ago and he 1:35:17.439 --> 1:35:19.679 was I think you were playing you were you playing 1:35:19.720 --> 1:35:22.559 the lead, the door, lead, the ren Yeah, I think 1:35:22.600 --> 1:35:22.840 you were. 1:35:22.800 --> 1:35:26.160 Playing that night and Casey had yeah, all the million Yeah. 1:35:26.640 --> 1:35:27.040 Yeah, I'm not. 1:35:27.160 --> 1:35:27.560 I'm just not. 1:35:27.760 --> 1:35:30.880 I'm not really interested in a lot of sounds. I 1:35:31.080 --> 1:35:33.840 like piano, I like roads, like a few leads and 1:35:34.360 --> 1:35:36.040 a pad every now and then. But I like to 1:35:36.120 --> 1:35:37.920 you know, I know those guys who are great at 1:35:37.960 --> 1:35:40.639 those sounds, and not even hire those guys to come 1:35:40.720 --> 1:35:41.240 do sounds. 1:35:41.320 --> 1:35:42.639 Hey, you want to make some sounds? 1:35:42.800 --> 1:35:45.040 You do that. It freezes me up. It freezes me 1:35:45.200 --> 1:35:46.720 up to just do what I want to do. You know. 1:35:46.840 --> 1:35:49.000 Hey, I was just gonna ask you about the Miles 1:35:49.080 --> 1:35:52.519 Project that I was like honored fucking to be on, 1:35:52.880 --> 1:35:55.679 Like just to log into my ass cap and see 1:35:56.320 --> 1:35:57.599 a song and it's fun. 1:35:57.680 --> 1:35:58.920 Take over and Miles Davis like. 1:35:58.920 --> 1:36:01.479 Nigga, what you know what I'm saying like for like 1:36:01.600 --> 1:36:03.960 for real, for real, like so yeah, I mean I've 1:36:04.000 --> 1:36:05.160 told you this a billion times. 1:36:05.200 --> 1:36:06.720 I just won't say it for everybody. Brother, thank you 1:36:06.840 --> 1:36:08.760 so much for sure, for sure. 1:36:08.960 --> 1:36:11.160 But but now, man, I wanted to ask you, like 1:36:11.320 --> 1:36:14.120 so when they give you just carte blanche and say 1:36:14.120 --> 1:36:19.320 all right, do whatever, how I guess how much of 1:36:19.360 --> 1:36:21.639 an undertaking is that and how. 1:36:21.560 --> 1:36:23.720 Involved is his family in that? 1:36:24.120 --> 1:36:26.360 And you know kind of you know, making sure that 1:36:26.880 --> 1:36:29.120 you know that ship has done tastefully or whatever, like 1:36:29.320 --> 1:36:30.280 what was that process? 1:36:30.400 --> 1:36:32.479 Like, man, just doing that Everything album? 1:36:32.960 --> 1:36:36.840 It actually was his nephew, right, yeah, it was Vince, 1:36:36.920 --> 1:36:37.400 his nephew. 1:36:37.840 --> 1:36:40.160 And I've been on Vince for years and he's always 1:36:40.360 --> 1:36:42.760 he's fan of the music, and he you know, he 1:36:42.920 --> 1:36:46.000 knows that I'm I shadow a lot of what Miles 1:36:46.040 --> 1:36:48.000 already did and I and I think like that and 1:36:48.040 --> 1:36:48.880 I look see what you know? 1:36:49.120 --> 1:36:51.080 So he hit me up about it. 1:36:51.400 --> 1:36:51.639 First. 1:36:51.760 --> 1:36:53.400 I was already doing the score for the movie. 1:36:53.920 --> 1:36:57.519 I was in the middle of that, right, I. 1:36:57.560 --> 1:36:58.800 Was already in the middle of the movie. 1:36:59.040 --> 1:37:02.160 And then Sony hit me up about doing that doing 1:37:02.280 --> 1:37:04.479 the because it was about to be his ninetieth birthday 1:37:04.680 --> 1:37:05.040 or something. 1:37:05.120 --> 1:37:08.000 I think at that time it's gonna be his ninetieth birthday. 1:37:08.000 --> 1:37:08.800 And they were like, we want to do. 1:37:08.800 --> 1:37:11.400 A remix album, blah blah, and I was like, I'll 1:37:11.439 --> 1:37:13.080 only do it if it's I don't want to do 1:37:13.160 --> 1:37:15.200 a remix album, Like I'm not interested in putting some 1:37:15.320 --> 1:37:17.760 Miles trumpets over hip hop, you know what I mean, 1:37:17.880 --> 1:37:18.720 Like that's been done. 1:37:18.720 --> 1:37:19.280 I want to do that. 1:37:19.680 --> 1:37:21.000 I said, the only way I'll do it is if 1:37:21.000 --> 1:37:23.320 you let me in the vault and let me take 1:37:23.360 --> 1:37:28.320 what I want. And they were like, okay, So they 1:37:28.400 --> 1:37:29.600 gave me eight hours. 1:37:32.520 --> 1:37:33.000 In the vault. 1:37:33.760 --> 1:37:35.200 Man, eight hours of the vault. 1:37:35.680 --> 1:37:37.439 Well, I thought you been eight hours to do the album. 1:37:37.439 --> 1:37:39.559 I was like, God, damn no, no, no, they gave 1:37:39.560 --> 1:37:40.679 me eight hours of the vault. 1:37:42.600 --> 1:37:45.800 That's way too little, way too little. 1:37:46.120 --> 1:37:48.920 I took as much as I possibly could in that 1:37:49.080 --> 1:37:50.879 time because they didn't want to let me in the vault. 1:37:50.920 --> 1:37:52.280 Originally, you know what I'm saying. 1:37:52.520 --> 1:37:54.560 But it was like a back and forth from my 1:37:54.640 --> 1:37:57.160 people there people, and then they finally like, okay, we'll 1:37:57.200 --> 1:37:58.000 give you eight hours. 1:37:58.200 --> 1:38:01.400 You know how much unreleased Miles was in there. 1:38:01.560 --> 1:38:06.080 I have a lot of ship. What were they what? 1:38:06.320 --> 1:38:06.960 What? What were you? 1:38:09.960 --> 1:38:10.559 How you doing. 1:38:14.840 --> 1:38:15.320 Well? What? 1:38:15.520 --> 1:38:15.560 What? 1:38:15.840 --> 1:38:18.640 What were you taking m P three's tapes? What are 1:38:18.640 --> 1:38:19.360 you talking about? No? 1:38:20.000 --> 1:38:20.880 P three? Ship? 1:38:20.960 --> 1:38:21.160 Yeah? 1:38:21.320 --> 1:38:21.559 I did. 1:38:21.760 --> 1:38:23.720 I brought my hard drive in and they were just like, 1:38:24.360 --> 1:38:25.720 take what you want? What do you want to pull up? 1:38:25.720 --> 1:38:25.840 Now? 1:38:25.840 --> 1:38:27.880 What I'm gonna pull up now? But uh, you know 1:38:28.080 --> 1:38:33.000 some digitized and some stuff was to track what you 1:38:33.040 --> 1:38:34.720 can't do much with. But then they had ship that 1:38:34.880 --> 1:38:40.559 was like eight tracks, and I really wanted him cursing out. 1:38:42.000 --> 1:38:43.880 I got so much I got Yeah, I got that. 1:38:43.920 --> 1:38:44.320 I got him. 1:38:45.680 --> 1:38:48.800 I got him talking ship, cussing out, talking to Ron 1:38:48.840 --> 1:38:50.639 Carter when he was trying to learn from them jazz dance. 1:38:52.439 --> 1:38:54.920 But wait, did I share this previously? 1:38:55.200 --> 1:38:59.120 On another I found out something that I don't think 1:38:59.160 --> 1:39:00.519 the jazz world is aware of. 1:39:00.840 --> 1:39:03.480 What I was recently told. 1:39:03.520 --> 1:39:05.840 By a lot of jazz I had to ask at 1:39:05.960 --> 1:39:10.920 least six of them. I did not realize that Ron 1:39:11.040 --> 1:39:17.840 Carter does not know how to solo good. So someone 1:39:17.960 --> 1:39:23.080 someone brought this up to me when I was asking my, my, my, other, 1:39:23.320 --> 1:39:27.800 my older jazz heads about stuff, and to them, they're 1:39:27.960 --> 1:39:32.599 baffled that one of the most iconic hip hop samples 1:39:33.200 --> 1:39:39.559 and they're referencing the mccourteimer sample for the Choices Yours 1:39:39.640 --> 1:39:44.519 with Ron Carter, and Ron Carter is on base doing that, 1:39:44.800 --> 1:39:48.720 and I guess the the whole thing is that they're 1:39:48.800 --> 1:39:55.519 laughing at the irony that the world's worst soloists. And 1:39:55.680 --> 1:39:58.360 I was like last for me right now, They're like no, no, no, 1:39:58.400 --> 1:40:02.000 no no, Ron's a perfect foundation for music. But if 1:40:02.040 --> 1:40:05.600 you notice he Miles never gave him a solo or 1:40:05.720 --> 1:40:07.720 any of his records. And I was like, I don't 1:40:07.720 --> 1:40:10.439 believe his ship. And then I went back and for 1:40:10.479 --> 1:40:15.960 a whole month listening to every Miles Davis, couldn't find one. 1:40:16.439 --> 1:40:20.040 If anything, it was just walking solo. If there was one, 1:40:20.320 --> 1:40:20.600 it was. 1:40:20.640 --> 1:40:22.640 Just was one like there was. 1:40:23.400 --> 1:40:27.040 He was there just as foundations, I exactly. And then 1:40:27.080 --> 1:40:28.600 when I was like, wait a minute, why is that so? 1:40:28.720 --> 1:40:31.280 Because Ron Carter is just like he's like, no, this 1:40:31.360 --> 1:40:35.320 is y'all fault is. That's tribe, fault y'all. May y'all 1:40:35.400 --> 1:40:41.120 may be worst musicihit in Miles Davids arsenal King and 1:40:41.240 --> 1:40:45.040 I'm like this is blasphemy. But I didn't realize, like, 1:40:45.240 --> 1:40:49.519 how do you judge. Maybe I don't know, Like, how 1:40:49.560 --> 1:40:51.200 do you know if a cat is real or not? 1:40:53.080 --> 1:40:55.599 Well, that's it depends on an instrument, because the reality 1:40:55.720 --> 1:40:58.080 is no, most people don't want to hear based solo anyway. 1:40:59.360 --> 1:41:02.679 Thank you, thank you, Christian McBride. 1:41:03.040 --> 1:41:05.280 You went to school with the most incredible bass soloist 1:41:05.320 --> 1:41:07.479 in the history of jazz music, so you have a 1:41:07.520 --> 1:41:09.880 different outlook on it. But most people don't want to hear. 1:41:09.960 --> 1:41:11.960 So that's when you go to the bathroom. 1:41:12.000 --> 1:41:14.360 Man all that that's the joke. 1:41:14.840 --> 1:41:19.360 Yeah, No, I now I believe that Chris is I 1:41:19.439 --> 1:41:23.360 mean next amingus, Like, I feel like Chris is the 1:41:23.479 --> 1:41:24.439 god of jazz bass. 1:41:24.520 --> 1:41:25.639 So maybe I am sported. 1:41:25.800 --> 1:41:29.519 But period, there has no never been a soloist like 1:41:29.600 --> 1:41:32.400 Christian McBride. That's not even that's not even up for debate. 1:41:32.800 --> 1:41:35.519 There's not one person that's even close to it. Jazz 1:41:35.600 --> 1:41:38.400 based soloists like McBride is. No one gets around like that. 1:41:38.560 --> 1:41:39.040 It's true. 1:41:39.840 --> 1:41:43.120 No bass player makes other instruments scared to play after them, 1:41:43.160 --> 1:41:47.640 except Christian McBride when they solo. I've had this conversation 1:41:47.840 --> 1:41:51.360 with all everybody. He's the only bass player that when 1:41:51.439 --> 1:41:53.479 he solos you're like, fuck, what what am I going 1:41:53.560 --> 1:41:56.360 to play? You know what I'm saying, Like most based, 1:41:56.760 --> 1:41:59.680 most basis stay in their base range and they don't 1:41:59.720 --> 1:42:02.160 have vocabulary. Because you don't, you don't get to work 1:42:02.200 --> 1:42:03.599 out as much, you don't get to sol us much. 1:42:03.680 --> 1:42:06.400 You have the one based solo in a set at best. 1:42:06.920 --> 1:42:09.000 You know what I'm saying. Everybody else, that's what you do. 1:42:09.479 --> 1:42:13.280 Your job is just so without you, without you throwing 1:42:13.720 --> 1:42:17.920 your contemporaries under or your idols under. Yeah, but I 1:42:18.200 --> 1:42:21.080 always wanted like and this is where because comedians have 1:42:21.160 --> 1:42:22.320 a whole nother standard. 1:42:23.600 --> 1:42:25.400 I I guess I have a. 1:42:26.880 --> 1:42:31.840 You know, like when I criticize Kanye's patches, Yeah, you know, 1:42:31.920 --> 1:42:33.080 his drum patches or whatever. 1:42:33.360 --> 1:42:40.920 And even Kanye him something now I feel like he'll 1:42:41.000 --> 1:42:41.200 tell you. 1:42:45.360 --> 1:42:48.320 But it's just like, you know, I hear people just 1:42:48.479 --> 1:42:50.920 dismiss it as like oh you have like dog with 1:42:51.000 --> 1:42:52.920 sole ears, like you hear something that we can't hear. 1:42:53.040 --> 1:42:56.400 But you know, like when I hear a producer, I 1:42:56.439 --> 1:42:59.800 could tell like based on there, you know, the way 1:42:59.840 --> 1:43:02.680 they they chop their their patches and what they use 1:43:02.720 --> 1:43:04.960 and their arrangement and their tone and all that stuff. 1:43:05.880 --> 1:43:07.839 You know, stuff that I can hear that the average 1:43:07.880 --> 1:43:08.639 person can't hear. 1:43:08.800 --> 1:43:13.679 But yeah, how do you know, Like my dad would 1:43:13.800 --> 1:43:16.240 know how good a musician was based on how they 1:43:16.320 --> 1:43:17.080 play ballad. 1:43:17.960 --> 1:43:20.760 He makes them play a ballot and he was like, 1:43:20.840 --> 1:43:21.880 I can instantly. 1:43:21.640 --> 1:43:24.320 Tell who is good and who's not good when you play, 1:43:24.640 --> 1:43:26.360 when you give them the easiest ship in the world 1:43:26.439 --> 1:43:28.920 to play and they fall apart in front of me. 1:43:29.240 --> 1:43:34.000 So yeah, no, that's a good one too. Especially as 1:43:34.000 --> 1:43:36.280 the piano player. When you play a ballad, you're exposed 1:43:36.320 --> 1:43:39.200 because now it's it's really about your touch and there's 1:43:39.200 --> 1:43:41.760 the space there. So what how much knowledge do you 1:43:41.840 --> 1:43:43.519 have to fill up that space? What what can you 1:43:43.560 --> 1:43:45.200 do to fill up that space? A lot of people 1:43:45.320 --> 1:43:47.719 feel and be tasteful about it. A lot of people 1:43:47.800 --> 1:43:50.640 feel like, especially piano players, they feel like when I 1:43:50.720 --> 1:43:53.280 go to ship like nam or stuff like that, a 1:43:53.360 --> 1:43:54.120 million piano players. 1:43:54.120 --> 1:43:55.000 Everybody's trying to play. 1:43:56.479 --> 1:43:56.880 I went on. 1:43:57.080 --> 1:43:58.920 I went twice in my life. I had to go 1:43:59.000 --> 1:44:02.479 over again. I did a thing for Corey just read recently. 1:44:02.760 --> 1:44:06.400 I did a show there for Corey and so. 1:44:08.320 --> 1:44:12.080 It's yeah, you already know anyway, Yeah, everybody wants to 1:44:12.080 --> 1:44:14.360 play the fastest thing they possibly can giant steps or 1:44:14.400 --> 1:44:16.360 some shit like that. And then when you play fast, 1:44:16.439 --> 1:44:18.120 you don't have to have touched, not about touch, not 1:44:18.200 --> 1:44:20.240 about this, not about that, and it goes by so 1:44:20.360 --> 1:44:23.200 fast and not paying attention. But with piano players you can, 1:44:23.360 --> 1:44:24.920 like I can sit down, I can see a piano 1:44:24.960 --> 1:44:27.800 player sit down, and in five seconds I can know 1:44:27.880 --> 1:44:30.160 what I'm about to hear. Sometimes I can do it 1:44:30.280 --> 1:44:32.559 just by your posture and what you while you hold 1:44:32.600 --> 1:44:34.960 your hands. A lot of times I can tell, okay, 1:44:35.439 --> 1:44:37.840 you actually don't play jazz. You have to play church organ, 1:44:38.680 --> 1:44:43.080 but you're playing piano today. Like for instance, you see 1:44:43.120 --> 1:44:45.559 me play organ, you think I don't play keys because 1:44:45.600 --> 1:44:49.439 I suck at orgon. I know, I know Cheddrick Mitchell 1:44:49.439 --> 1:44:51.840 and Corey Henry and James Poison, these kinds of cats. 1:44:52.000 --> 1:44:57.040 I'm not an organ player. The technique it's a different. 1:44:57.439 --> 1:45:00.599 So that Corey does like that, you would. 1:45:00.400 --> 1:45:01.800 Have to practice a lot to get to that. 1:45:03.600 --> 1:45:06.880 When he plays chords, not lines is different. Like lines 1:45:07.080 --> 1:45:08.880 on organ are easy because the key is the plastic 1:45:08.960 --> 1:45:11.360 and there's no weight. A real piano has weight, so 1:45:11.560 --> 1:45:13.840 you could when you can tell somebody's real chops when 1:45:13.840 --> 1:45:15.599 they play a piano, because that's when the weight's there, 1:45:15.920 --> 1:45:19.639 you know what I mean. Yeah, if you're slow on organ, 1:45:19.680 --> 1:45:22.960 you're I can't help you because it's a plastic key. 1:45:23.000 --> 1:45:24.680 You just supposed to be fast, you know what I mean. 1:45:25.200 --> 1:45:27.880 But core, Yeah, any organ player that is really good 1:45:28.160 --> 1:45:31.000 moving from chord to chord. It's a fucking spider technique. 1:45:31.040 --> 1:45:33.720 Like everything has to be connected, and you voice things 1:45:33.760 --> 1:45:36.800 different because you're used to having bass pedals, So your 1:45:36.880 --> 1:45:39.000 voicings up here are different. Piano players, are you not 1:45:39.120 --> 1:45:41.080 used to having bass pedals? We have to play base here, 1:45:41.360 --> 1:45:44.400 so our voicings are different to make it full, because 1:45:44.439 --> 1:45:47.000 we have to make it fool here. Organ players have 1:45:47.080 --> 1:45:49.960 the pedals, so they're the just their their chord. The 1:45:50.000 --> 1:45:51.960 structure of the chord is stuff be like what the 1:45:52.120 --> 1:45:56.559 hell you know? So immediately you could tell what somebody 1:45:56.640 --> 1:45:58.599 plays by like sitting sitting down, you know what I mean? 1:45:59.000 --> 1:46:01.240 And yeah, and the volcano delary is super easy to 1:46:01.280 --> 1:46:02.000 tell immediately. 1:46:02.600 --> 1:46:05.880 You know that players is another thing too, like I know, 1:46:06.000 --> 1:46:08.760 like yeah, that's a whole other thing, like. 1:46:08.880 --> 1:46:12.000 Yeah, roses, yeah, yeah, everybody that plays piano can't play 1:46:12.040 --> 1:46:15.599 roles and vice versa and like all those the different 1:46:15.640 --> 1:46:17.320 touches and different vibes and like. 1:46:17.760 --> 1:46:22.559 One, So what's your accordion game? Like, I'm crazy on accordion, 1:46:22.840 --> 1:46:25.519 I'm crazy on the courdy. What fucking about? 1:46:28.400 --> 1:46:30.200 I do know one that's amazing though. 1:46:30.520 --> 1:46:32.040 I used to see him with Jeff Tay Watts on 1:46:32.120 --> 1:46:36.240 Monday Nights at the Z Bar years ago, really accordion 1:46:36.320 --> 1:46:41.920 and tang. He was smashing. Bro wait a minute for 1:46:42.080 --> 1:46:42.360 the guy. 1:46:42.439 --> 1:46:44.400 How how does it feel to be the person that 1:46:44.560 --> 1:46:47.520 got Malcolm Jamal Warner his first Grammy? 1:46:52.760 --> 1:46:53.320 That's funny. 1:46:53.920 --> 1:46:55.200 You know what's crazy about that? Though? 1:46:55.240 --> 1:46:56.960 That wasn't supposed to have Most of my stuff on 1:46:57.040 --> 1:46:59.439 black Radio. I'll tell everybody all the time. It's like, 1:47:00.120 --> 1:47:02.320 whenever I make an album, the universe is always a 1:47:02.360 --> 1:47:04.400 co producer because it never. 1:47:04.360 --> 1:47:06.040 Goes how I wanted to go all the way. 1:47:06.280 --> 1:47:06.840 And I know that. 1:47:07.560 --> 1:47:09.200 I know that going in and I'm okay with it 1:47:09.280 --> 1:47:13.120 because great things, better things have happened because the universe 1:47:13.200 --> 1:47:15.000 is like, look, nigga, this is what's gonna happen. So 1:47:15.400 --> 1:47:17.400 she'lld the fuck this is. Can't do shit about it. 1:47:17.880 --> 1:47:21.759 So when I did the Song of Jesus, Chris of America. 1:47:21.880 --> 1:47:22.120 It was. 1:47:23.560 --> 1:47:25.920 It was and and and old to the children of 1:47:26.000 --> 1:47:30.120 the Sandy Hill tragedy. That morning of the actual tragedy, 1:47:30.160 --> 1:47:33.280 I was doing it Stevie tribute I believe, I'm me 1:47:33.400 --> 1:47:35.280 or you came and sat in. Was it that that 1:47:35.439 --> 1:47:37.439 day or the next day? We did two nights at 1:47:37.439 --> 1:47:40.320 Harlem stage of a Stevie Wonder tribute. 1:47:40.600 --> 1:47:44.160 Damn man, I need you around just to remind me 1:47:44.200 --> 1:47:44.519 of shit. 1:47:44.680 --> 1:47:47.880 Yes, yes, yes, and you can and I'm mer came by. 1:47:48.040 --> 1:47:50.639 It might have been so two nights. The first night 1:47:51.080 --> 1:47:54.280 was of that day that that tragedy happened. Another night 1:47:54.320 --> 1:47:56.280 and you came one of those nights, can't remember which one. 1:47:56.680 --> 1:47:59.000 And that was my first time doing that arrangement of 1:47:59.080 --> 1:48:03.599 Jesus Chrisen of America with Laila for for for them. 1:48:03.920 --> 1:48:05.960 And there was that that day when that happened. I 1:48:06.000 --> 1:48:09.000 woke up and my good friend Jimmy, Jimmy Green, his 1:48:09.200 --> 1:48:12.360 daughter was killed in that. Oh wow, Jimmy was the 1:48:12.400 --> 1:48:13.479 first Jimmy. 1:48:13.760 --> 1:48:14.559 She was the first grade. 1:48:15.720 --> 1:48:18.439 Few times, yeah, she was the first grade. And so 1:48:18.680 --> 1:48:20.439 that fucked me up because I have at this point, 1:48:20.479 --> 1:48:22.040 I have a son, you know what I mean. It's 1:48:22.080 --> 1:48:24.719 like oh Ship. She hits you harder when you have kids, 1:48:24.920 --> 1:48:27.000 things that happened with kids. If you don't have kids, 1:48:27.040 --> 1:48:30.479 it's one thing. We Once you have a kid, it's whole. No, 1:48:30.560 --> 1:48:32.880 I can't even watch movies the same. You know, when 1:48:32.880 --> 1:48:34.479 you have a kid, everything's different, like. 1:48:34.520 --> 1:48:34.960 Oh Ship. 1:48:35.400 --> 1:48:38.960 So anyway, fast forward, when black Radio time came around, 1:48:39.000 --> 1:48:41.000 I told Layla, hey, I want to do Jesus is 1:48:41.040 --> 1:48:41.519 in America. 1:48:41.760 --> 1:48:44.280 You know, She's like okay. She came in and as 1:48:44.400 --> 1:48:45.559 usual as she. 1:48:45.680 --> 1:48:47.080 Did for the song. 1:48:49.439 --> 1:48:52.600 MM cherish today was one tape. She was reading the 1:48:52.680 --> 1:48:55.320 lyrics on her phone. It was actually it was the 1:48:55.400 --> 1:48:59.360 sound check. She was right beforehand. She said, mike check 1:48:59.400 --> 1:49:01.759 one two, Mike check one two. That's why I faded 1:49:01.800 --> 1:49:03.840 it in because right before that she was checking the 1:49:03.920 --> 1:49:06.760 mic and that take you here is the sound check. 1:49:06.840 --> 1:49:09.519 So when she finished, she was like okay, I'm ready. 1:49:09.560 --> 1:49:10.559 I was like thanks, We're good. 1:49:10.640 --> 1:49:12.040 Nah. That was it. That was it. 1:49:13.160 --> 1:49:15.120 She had the same thing for Judas Chasing America, Jesus 1:49:15.160 --> 1:49:17.800 Chisen in America. She came in, did that shit one time, 1:49:18.000 --> 1:49:21.360 one take. I don't have bonus tracks of Laila. I 1:49:21.400 --> 1:49:23.479 don't have bonus shit of Layla because she just doesn't 1:49:23.479 --> 1:49:24.280 want to take and I'm good. 1:49:24.439 --> 1:49:25.120 I'm like, I'm good. 1:49:25.640 --> 1:49:28.160 And anyway, we did the song and in my mind 1:49:28.280 --> 1:49:30.800 I was gonna get Jimmy Green to do a poem 1:49:30.880 --> 1:49:34.160 for his daughter in that song, you know, in the 1:49:34.280 --> 1:49:37.320 actual song, and so I was reaching out to him 1:49:37.560 --> 1:49:39.320 and you know, trying to see if you want to 1:49:39.400 --> 1:49:41.280 do it. And my other friend, who was really close 1:49:41.320 --> 1:49:43.640 to the otis, was like, man, this is not a 1:49:43.640 --> 1:49:45.439 good time for Jimmy, you know, blah blah blah. 1:49:45.520 --> 1:49:46.320 So he couldn't do it. 1:49:47.200 --> 1:49:48.760 Malcolm had hit me and like, yo, I want to 1:49:48.800 --> 1:49:50.639 come hang out at the studio next time you're the studio. 1:49:50.680 --> 1:49:52.080 So I hit Matholm like, yo, we'll come hang out 1:49:52.080 --> 1:49:55.080 the studio. I'm doing something mixes of songs blah blah blah. 1:49:55.400 --> 1:49:59.400 And we started mixing Jesus Hild in America and I 1:49:59.439 --> 1:50:00.559 told him I was like, I was trying to get 1:50:00.600 --> 1:50:01.240 a poem on here. 1:50:01.280 --> 1:50:02.960 He was like, dude, I'm a poet, right. 1:50:03.600 --> 1:50:07.360 I was like, I forgot about that. He was like 1:50:08.000 --> 1:50:09.920 he was like, bro, give me a stab at it. 1:50:10.160 --> 1:50:12.240 I'm gonna go I'll go write something right now. Give 1:50:12.280 --> 1:50:13.320 me a stab you don't have to use it if 1:50:13.320 --> 1:50:16.000 you don't want it. He went to the We're in 1:50:16.240 --> 1:50:19.679 We're in Westlake. He went upstairs, took it like an hour, 1:50:20.360 --> 1:50:23.600 wrote it, came down, spit it, and then that was it. 1:50:24.600 --> 1:50:26.120 That was it, man surprise. 1:50:26.240 --> 1:50:28.720 Yeah bro, yeah bro, But a lot of those things 1:50:28.800 --> 1:50:31.400 with black Radio. That's how black Radio actually album. The 1:50:31.479 --> 1:50:34.280 actual album. I canceled it like four times because it 1:50:34.360 --> 1:50:36.920 was too hard to make, because nobody's schedule. 1:50:36.680 --> 1:50:37.280 Was lining up. 1:50:37.960 --> 1:50:40.960 So I literally said fuck it, we'll do it next 1:50:41.040 --> 1:50:43.000 year or some ship four times and then out of 1:50:43.080 --> 1:50:45.439 the blue, my manager hit me, I was on tour. 1:50:46.120 --> 1:50:48.120 I was on tour with my band, and my manager 1:50:48.200 --> 1:50:50.280 hit me like, I don't know what happened, but every 1:50:50.439 --> 1:50:52.360 guest is available next week. 1:50:53.040 --> 1:50:53.519 In l A. 1:50:54.520 --> 1:50:57.040 And this is black Radio one or two one one 1:50:57.160 --> 1:50:58.360 one in LA. 1:50:58.439 --> 1:51:01.800 Everybody's available. Yeah. 1:51:01.960 --> 1:51:04.880 I was like, oh ship, so yeah, it might have been. 1:51:04.920 --> 1:51:06.560 It might have been. It might have been everybody was 1:51:07.040 --> 1:51:08.479 February is where you catch all year. 1:51:09.160 --> 1:51:12.639 Yeah, so it's like, oh shit, Okay, so I canceled 1:51:12.680 --> 1:51:16.479 my tour and I flew I flew in and I 1:51:16.600 --> 1:51:19.080 flew right and I went right to, uh, what's the girl? 1:51:19.240 --> 1:51:19.800 King's house. 1:51:20.040 --> 1:51:23.080 That was when k happened, when they had a little 1:51:23.120 --> 1:51:25.960 and I'm here, you were like talking about King and Erica. 1:51:27.439 --> 1:51:29.519 My friend Megan, she was happening to kind of be 1:51:29.600 --> 1:51:33.400 managing them at the time, and she was and I 1:51:33.479 --> 1:51:34.680 told her. I was like, man, I want to get 1:51:34.720 --> 1:51:35.920 them on the record. I think that'd be dope. 1:51:35.960 --> 1:51:37.519 They got some fire now talking. 1:51:37.640 --> 1:51:41.840 House moved love and I went to their house and 1:51:42.000 --> 1:51:44.560 I to meet them and to write the song. And 1:51:44.680 --> 1:51:46.400 they happened to have a washer and dryer, and I 1:51:46.439 --> 1:51:48.880 had just came from Europe. I went stretching that crib. 1:51:49.000 --> 1:51:51.040 I got laundry, and I was like, nigger. 1:51:52.800 --> 1:51:55.640 I wrote some chords and I said, okay, y'all finish it. 1:51:55.760 --> 1:51:58.800 I went to the laundry room and did laundry while 1:51:58.800 --> 1:52:01.479 they were writing a song. And in the middle of that, 1:52:01.760 --> 1:52:04.519 I had Loupe come over to their house to meet 1:52:04.600 --> 1:52:07.080 up with him to give him the idea I had 1:52:07.600 --> 1:52:09.240 for him to do what he's going to do. 1:52:09.439 --> 1:52:11.559 For the record, And then I had Most come over 1:52:11.800 --> 1:52:13.920 a little bit later. So they were freaking out. 1:52:13.920 --> 1:52:15.120 They were like, what, oh my god. You know. 1:52:15.479 --> 1:52:17.519 Most came over a little bit later so I could 1:52:17.560 --> 1:52:19.880 tell him, Hey, this is what I'm thinking about doing 1:52:19.920 --> 1:52:21.720 blah blah blahh tomorrow when you come to you know, 1:52:21.720 --> 1:52:24.479 blah blah blah blah blah. But that's and then literally 1:52:24.560 --> 1:52:28.240 that's just how that happened. That that process was Black 1:52:28.320 --> 1:52:31.080 Radio one was a five was five days of recording, 1:52:31.920 --> 1:52:34.400 and then Black Radio two was like six days of recording. 1:52:35.280 --> 1:52:37.960 You know, man on Black Radio two. We have to 1:52:38.080 --> 1:52:42.240 ask a guest that we had earlier, was the music 1:52:42.640 --> 1:52:46.080 Lord Jesus does music like ah, yeah, oh. 1:52:48.680 --> 1:52:59.599 Because you don't like it what he's saying. 1:53:00.080 --> 1:53:03.879 No, So he has a he has a very complex 1:53:03.960 --> 1:53:07.080 relationship with his back catalog. Okay, when we had it 1:53:07.200 --> 1:53:10.200 on the show, we didn't specifically ask him about this song. 1:53:11.000 --> 1:53:13.000 So no, he didn't slander. Now we didn't ask about 1:53:13.520 --> 1:53:17.080 but no, that'ship as hard as fuck. But like, what 1:53:17.320 --> 1:53:20.400 was there was it like recording that did he into it? 1:53:20.520 --> 1:53:21.439 Or what was it he loved? 1:53:21.600 --> 1:53:23.479 Matter of fact, last time I saw him live, I 1:53:23.600 --> 1:53:25.760 was just happen to be in Oakland and I saw 1:53:25.840 --> 1:53:27.560 he was at Yo She's and I just walked in 1:53:27.640 --> 1:53:30.280 and he was playing all yeah, he was singing he 1:53:30.479 --> 1:53:31.280 liked it, you like it? 1:53:32.479 --> 1:53:36.080 Oh yeah, that's another universe. 1:53:36.200 --> 1:53:39.040 That's another universe thing. Because I flew to Atlanta. I 1:53:39.080 --> 1:53:42.080 did the music already. I flew to Atlanta so he 1:53:42.160 --> 1:53:44.880 could write the song and we went to. 1:53:44.840 --> 1:53:47.479 The studio and that's why he liked it. 1:53:47.840 --> 1:53:50.040 The first night, the first night we were in the studio, 1:53:50.280 --> 1:53:52.559 he came up with the hook and blah blah blah. 1:53:52.560 --> 1:53:55.519 There were like we had another night. So the next day, 1:53:55.760 --> 1:53:57.679 matter of fact, you have something to do with this Fonte. 1:53:58.000 --> 1:53:59.880 We never talked about this, okay, because I'm tired of 1:54:00.000 --> 1:54:02.040 I think I know, I think I know what this is. 1:54:02.200 --> 1:54:03.439 If it's okay, go ahead. 1:54:04.120 --> 1:54:07.360 I was in Atlanta and the next day you, for 1:54:07.479 --> 1:54:09.920 an exchange, was having a show at some festival or 1:54:09.960 --> 1:54:12.000 something Atlanta. 1:54:13.320 --> 1:54:15.640 Might yo, that's right, because we hit you. 1:54:15.760 --> 1:54:18.840 Yeah, you came on stage and I came in with y'all. 1:54:18.960 --> 1:54:21.040 Hell yeah that She was dope as fun, I remember. 1:54:20.960 --> 1:54:23.479 And Christe Michelle was there. I think she played after you. 1:54:24.120 --> 1:54:24.720 Yes she did. 1:54:25.360 --> 1:54:26.200 I stopped for seven. 1:54:28.000 --> 1:54:39.760 First of all, I love all because that was that 1:54:39.880 --> 1:54:41.680 was shout out to Joe dene on that Joe Dene 1:54:41.840 --> 1:54:45.880 hit me, Jody, she hit me because at the time, 1:54:46.400 --> 1:54:50.200 our keyboard player and m b Zo. He had like 1:54:50.360 --> 1:54:52.240 another gig. He had something to do. It's like the 1:54:52.480 --> 1:54:55.560 only f gig you ever ever missed, And and she 1:54:55.800 --> 1:54:59.320 was like yo. Joe was like yo, So Robert, would 1:54:59.320 --> 1:55:01.000 you mind if he he just come up? I was 1:55:01.080 --> 1:55:04.800 like rob She's like glass. I was like hell, yeah, yes, yeah, 1:55:05.080 --> 1:55:05.800 that's my nigga. 1:55:05.880 --> 1:55:06.480 Tell me to come on. 1:55:07.040 --> 1:55:09.760 And so from that is it from sitting in with you, 1:55:10.720 --> 1:55:12.760 Chrissette saw me. It was like I saw her after that. 1:55:12.840 --> 1:55:14.640 I was like, yo, what's up? What the fuck? 1:55:14.720 --> 1:55:15.600 She was like, oh, my bust. 1:55:15.640 --> 1:55:17.760 And she was like, I was gonna fly back to 1:55:17.880 --> 1:55:19.600 New York, but it was a storm in New York, 1:55:19.720 --> 1:55:23.960 really best Sandy, Hurricane Sandy or and she was like, 1:55:24.080 --> 1:55:26.560 I can't fly back to New York, so I'm gonna 1:55:26.560 --> 1:55:27.440 be here nextra day. 1:55:27.680 --> 1:55:28.240 What are you doing? 1:55:28.320 --> 1:55:31.080 I was like, Yo, I'm in the studio, come hang out, 1:55:31.280 --> 1:55:34.440 come by. She came by the studio and I handed 1:55:34.440 --> 1:55:35.920 her appeared in the pad. That was like right the 1:55:35.960 --> 1:55:40.200 second verse, So that's literally how oh yeah. 1:55:40.240 --> 1:55:41.200 It came about the. 1:55:41.440 --> 1:55:44.360 Two her being on it because originally just music, but 1:55:44.480 --> 1:55:46.360 literally came about because I came to sit in with 1:55:46.480 --> 1:55:47.680 you and Chrissette. 1:55:47.280 --> 1:55:52.520 Was there, watch God work, Robert the Connector. 1:55:53.200 --> 1:55:56.720 I'm like Radio two, the Bill Withers thing. Bill Withers 1:55:56.840 --> 1:56:01.520 came to the so for a random for some random reason. 1:56:01.960 --> 1:56:04.640 Casey when we set up at the studio, was like, yo, 1:56:05.400 --> 1:56:07.560 let's do Let's play Lovely Day for the sound check. 1:56:07.600 --> 1:56:10.760 And I was like, okay, we literally never played Lovely 1:56:10.840 --> 1:56:13.600 Day A right, Okay, what's the. 1:56:13.640 --> 1:56:14.120 Changes the game? 1:56:14.240 --> 1:56:16.640 He showed me the change. I'm like, cool. So we 1:56:16.760 --> 1:56:19.400 just took then one take down Lovely Day. Boom. 1:56:19.960 --> 1:56:21.760 That's literally what you hear on the fucking album on 1:56:21.960 --> 1:56:24.600 the on the extended version. There's a Black Radio two 1:56:24.640 --> 1:56:27.360 then as extended. So anyway, one of the guys there 1:56:27.640 --> 1:56:29.320 was like, Yo, I know Bill, I'm gonna call up 1:56:29.360 --> 1:56:30.040 and tell him you did that. 1:56:30.160 --> 1:56:34.360 I was like, okay, we cool. Call Bill. Everybody didn't 1:56:34.360 --> 1:56:34.760 call Bill. 1:56:35.360 --> 1:56:37.920 He called Bill, put me on the phone with him. 1:56:37.920 --> 1:56:39.440 He was like, yeah, young man, I wish I could 1:56:39.480 --> 1:56:41.520 come to hear your song, but you know, I'm feeling 1:56:41.560 --> 1:56:42.360 a little sick or whatever. 1:56:42.400 --> 1:56:44.600 I was like, oh, okay, no problem, man, Honor, honor 1:56:44.680 --> 1:56:46.640 that you even took the time to talk whatever. 1:56:46.960 --> 1:56:47.240 Cool. 1:56:47.840 --> 1:56:51.440 So fast forward next day, uh, who's that? 1:56:51.720 --> 1:56:54.320 I was gonna comment and uh, Macy Gray I think 1:56:54.840 --> 1:56:58.240 the next day and Rosh was riding his rhyme and 1:56:58.720 --> 1:57:01.480 he ended up having like a writer's black in one part. 1:57:01.600 --> 1:57:04.720 So we were just upstairs chilling, kind of talking shit 1:57:04.840 --> 1:57:07.560 or whatever, and up walk up up the stairs Bill 1:57:07.600 --> 1:57:08.280 Withers walk there. 1:57:09.360 --> 1:57:12.200 Wow, Like what dude? 1:57:12.840 --> 1:57:15.600 He walks in and he's like, well, let me hear 1:57:15.640 --> 1:57:19.360 this song. Oh shit, okay, So we go to the 1:57:19.720 --> 1:57:20.600 downstairs the studio. 1:57:20.640 --> 1:57:21.400 I play on the song. 1:57:22.080 --> 1:57:23.480 He's like, yeah, I like the song, like what. 1:57:23.560 --> 1:57:24.120 Y'all did with it? 1:57:24.920 --> 1:57:28.640 Buam and then talk to us for three hours straight. 1:57:29.280 --> 1:57:32.000 Stories just stories and stories. 1:57:31.600 --> 1:57:34.680 And stories, got all video story and story story from that. 1:57:35.360 --> 1:57:37.400 Rashi was sitting behind him with a pin in the 1:57:37.480 --> 1:57:40.280 pad writing some of what Bill was writing down singing 1:57:41.240 --> 1:57:44.360 so Rosshia's second verse when I stand Alone from Blackbird 1:57:44.520 --> 1:57:48.400 Too really is a lot of Bill Withers words. 1:57:49.040 --> 1:57:52.840 Oh wow, I'm gonna listen to it. 1:57:53.800 --> 1:57:56.880 Yeah, yeah, a lot of He's. 1:57:56.760 --> 1:57:57.800 One of our bucket lists. 1:57:57.800 --> 1:57:57.880 Man. 1:57:57.920 --> 1:57:59.320 I hate we never got a chance to get him 1:57:59.320 --> 1:58:03.000 for your past. I want to QLs. 1:58:03.520 --> 1:58:08.520 So Rob, are there any like is there any I 1:58:08.600 --> 1:58:13.800 mean besides the eventual collaboration now you'll do with your son, YEP, 1:58:14.160 --> 1:58:14.560 for sure. 1:58:15.120 --> 1:58:17.520 Are there any bucket list projects that. 1:58:18.960 --> 1:58:22.840 You you have yet to you know, are you going 1:58:22.920 --> 1:58:25.000 to do a forrae into classical music? 1:58:25.160 --> 1:58:25.400 Will you? 1:58:25.400 --> 1:58:28.040 You know what? 1:58:28.720 --> 1:58:30.000 Guitar and I don't know. 1:58:30.720 --> 1:58:32.520 I would like to hear Robert Glass would take on 1:58:32.720 --> 1:58:40.320 like a Brazilian love affairs My Lady cover app not 1:58:40.440 --> 1:58:42.600 covering that, but you know something in that you know 1:58:42.680 --> 1:58:43.480 your own ship, but. 1:58:43.600 --> 1:58:50.080 Just that like the movie, like the movie Lady, My 1:58:50.240 --> 1:58:55.000 Lady is Cuban. Okay. So I went to Cuba hits 1:58:55.040 --> 1:59:00.240 we have a kid, and she took me and be 1:59:00.280 --> 1:59:00.640 in the Cuba. 1:59:00.720 --> 1:59:04.080 But she took me to Cuba in November to see 1:59:04.080 --> 1:59:06.280 the vibe and go to see the music of the 1:59:06.280 --> 1:59:09.360 clubs and everything. It was so fucking inspiring, bro, Like 1:59:09.440 --> 1:59:11.840 the musicians out there are fucking incredible. 1:59:12.120 --> 1:59:15.000 You got to see like the whole Apro Cuban, all of. 1:59:15.040 --> 1:59:17.600 It, all, all of it. I even got cool with 1:59:17.720 --> 1:59:18.440 Chucho because of that. 1:59:18.520 --> 1:59:20.120 I've been to chu Cho's crib and we hung out 1:59:20.160 --> 1:59:23.160 and plays, you know what I mean, like crazy, So 1:59:23.240 --> 1:59:25.600 I want to do like a I definitely want to 1:59:25.680 --> 1:59:30.600 do a like a a project like my ship meaning. 1:59:30.440 --> 1:59:32.120 Cuba, you know what I mean, like. 1:59:34.160 --> 1:59:35.480 Red Hot back in the day. 1:59:35.640 --> 1:59:36.480 You know Red Hot? 1:59:36.560 --> 1:59:36.800 Wow? 1:59:36.920 --> 1:59:39.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely want to do something like 1:59:39.720 --> 1:59:42.360 that where it brings that that that sound together because 1:59:42.800 --> 1:59:44.880 so many people take from Cuban musicians, but you don't 1:59:44.880 --> 1:59:47.080 see the musicians because the motherfuckers can't come over here, 1:59:47.640 --> 1:59:48.200 you know what I mean? 1:59:50.840 --> 1:59:52.000 You know what I mean that part. 1:59:52.120 --> 1:59:54.000 So it's like, yeah, man, I was learning so much 1:59:54.000 --> 1:59:56.560 from her about the culture and everything, and so it's 1:59:56.600 --> 1:59:58.400 so deep and rich and so dope, you know what 1:59:58.440 --> 2:00:01.640 I mean. But also I thought a Brazilian one too, bro, 2:00:01.800 --> 2:00:04.400 Like I want to do something just like you know 2:00:05.400 --> 2:00:07.640 the chords in Brazilian music. You just be like, oh, 2:00:08.000 --> 2:00:12.400 you know, just over the things. I have so many, Yeah, yeah, 2:00:12.400 --> 2:00:14.160 I have so many, But I have so many projects 2:00:14.200 --> 2:00:16.440 in my mind. That one that I want to I 2:00:16.520 --> 2:00:18.400 want to get done, you know what I mean. But 2:00:19.000 --> 2:00:20.400 you know, I definitely want to. I want to do 2:00:20.480 --> 2:00:23.640 an official like some ship, an official thing with the roots, 2:00:23.720 --> 2:00:25.760 a real one, you know what I mean. I've sat 2:00:25.800 --> 2:00:28.760 in so many years, but I attribute a lot of 2:00:28.800 --> 2:00:30.480 people asking me, like, you know what I'm saying like 2:00:31.000 --> 2:00:34.320 where am I where my sensibilities come for playing hip 2:00:34.320 --> 2:00:35.640 hop and things like that? 2:00:35.720 --> 2:00:37.480 How I got into it because I wasn't. I wasn't 2:00:37.480 --> 2:00:38.760 playing hip hop when I was in Houston. 2:00:39.040 --> 2:00:40.800 I just start playing hip hop until I got to 2:00:40.880 --> 2:00:42.840 New York and but I'll started taking me to y'all 2:00:42.920 --> 2:00:43.480 jam sessions. 2:00:43.520 --> 2:00:45.120 And my first time playing hip hop with the band 2:00:45.240 --> 2:00:46.760 was with you, you know what I mean? 2:00:46.880 --> 2:00:48.760 Like, so I got a chance to play with the 2:00:48.880 --> 2:00:51.960 roots a lot, which trained me in that in that 2:00:52.080 --> 2:00:54.440 world and to sit there and watch James Poyser and 2:00:54.720 --> 2:00:57.080 you know, and watch June. You know what I mean, 2:00:57.200 --> 2:00:59.440 play You know what I mean, like dumb Cats and 2:01:00.240 --> 2:01:03.880 mirror that that really train That's part of my part 2:01:03.920 --> 2:01:04.640 of my whole ship. 2:01:05.160 --> 2:01:06.680 You say nothing by the word, Let's do it. 2:01:08.600 --> 2:01:10.880 And don't be looking out to glass. We'na be hitting 2:01:10.920 --> 2:01:13.480 you up. We're in the process. I was putting the 2:01:13.520 --> 2:01:15.880 buggy here now since you're in l A. We're trying 2:01:15.920 --> 2:01:19.200 to figure out somehow trying to write a sketch for 2:01:19.400 --> 2:01:20.800 season two of Sherman Showcase. 2:01:21.480 --> 2:01:23.560 And we want we want you to be we want 2:01:23.600 --> 2:01:24.800 you to play Thelonius month. 2:01:27.320 --> 2:01:27.640 We don't know. 2:01:28.200 --> 2:01:29.000 Yeah, so. 2:01:33.080 --> 2:01:38.760 Ready Sherman showcase. 2:01:40.760 --> 2:01:43.480 Yo, can I just a little suggestion for the Emir 2:01:44.000 --> 2:01:46.240 Robert Glassford thing. I don't know if you recall, Robert, 2:01:46.280 --> 2:01:48.880 but there was a Roots picnic about what was that 2:01:49.240 --> 2:01:53.600 side six years ago that you performed at in the morning? Okay, 2:01:53.640 --> 2:01:56.160 so you remember telling me. I remember I was talking 2:01:56.200 --> 2:01:58.520 to you and Marsha and I asked you, like, you 2:01:58.560 --> 2:02:00.160 know what what was you like? As far as Bruce 2:02:00.160 --> 2:02:01.560 pic he was like, I would really like to perform 2:02:01.640 --> 2:02:03.800 when it gets dark outside people. 2:02:04.480 --> 2:02:04.760 I was. 2:02:07.240 --> 2:02:08.960 Just like for you to also take this moment. I'm 2:02:08.960 --> 2:02:11.160 like when the Bruce Picnic come back outside. 2:02:11.080 --> 2:02:13.400 Said look they were setting up tables and ship like. 2:02:15.240 --> 2:02:17.120 Performed for the food truck man. 2:02:17.920 --> 2:02:22.320 I was like, Robert, even I don't attend the first 2:02:22.400 --> 2:02:23.960 Route picnic I ever attended. 2:02:23.800 --> 2:02:28.640 Was really it was that, Yeah, no, none of the 2:02:28.720 --> 2:02:30.839 cat hadn't even got none of the cabinet. 2:02:31.120 --> 2:02:33.120 So let everybody seem to be like, yo, you're playing. 2:02:33.200 --> 2:02:39.640 I was like, I played nine hours earlier, baby, all there. 2:02:39.520 --> 2:02:40.080 On Front Street. 2:02:40.080 --> 2:02:41.440 Because I'm like, in a way too, I don't know 2:02:41.520 --> 2:02:44.560 how much he's gotten a real live, great Black radio live. 2:02:46.080 --> 2:02:48.160 I was just saying, what if we could like recreate something. 2:02:49.160 --> 2:02:52.200 Were you not part of the the joint I did 2:02:52.280 --> 2:02:59.760 with Esperanza or was that not you? Okay, because that 2:02:59.880 --> 2:03:00.920 was probably ramming. 2:03:01.160 --> 2:03:03.920 See see I had to go on a good path. 2:03:04.000 --> 2:03:07.120 So back to the throw under the bus on my 2:03:07.240 --> 2:03:09.600 own show, this is this is no. 2:03:09.600 --> 2:03:13.080 No, no, we're doing something. Come on, build this picnic 2:03:13.160 --> 2:03:13.960 for twenty twenty one. 2:03:14.320 --> 2:03:18.160 Robert Hill in the studio first, and then we'll we're 2:03:18.640 --> 2:03:21.840 sign in the next Rout's picnic and then President out 2:03:21.840 --> 2:03:22.400 of the office. 2:03:22.440 --> 2:03:25.160 So that way we can have a roots picnic. Oh 2:03:25.280 --> 2:03:29.360 there you go. Yeah, exactly, there's that that part part 2:03:29.640 --> 2:03:33.080 to twenty one. I said twenty all right, well it's 2:03:34.400 --> 2:03:35.840 it probably will be twenty two. 2:03:35.960 --> 2:03:39.800 But yes, whatever, I just I wanted Ribaby class in 2:03:39.880 --> 2:03:40.200 the roots. 2:03:40.240 --> 2:03:43.040 I was just saying, boom, let's do it, let's go yo, 2:03:43.200 --> 2:03:45.560 I'm here. Whatever happened to that? Did that thing ever 2:03:45.600 --> 2:03:48.440 come out that we did in Dallas with the orchestra? 2:03:48.840 --> 2:03:52.480 You know what? You know, it's weird. 2:03:53.520 --> 2:03:58.960 Shaka's portion made it on YouTube. I don't you're your 2:03:59.000 --> 2:04:02.320 guess is as good as mine. I think you whoever 2:04:02.640 --> 2:04:05.520 like underwrote that like put it out for quarantine entertainment. 2:04:05.600 --> 2:04:09.120 But that's a good question. No, it hasn't officially come out. 2:04:09.040 --> 2:04:10.680 But that too. 2:04:10.760 --> 2:04:12.840 I think I did a piece with Erica. Yeah, we 2:04:13.000 --> 2:04:16.480 did Erica, You, Sakka Khan and the Roots in the Dallas. 2:04:16.640 --> 2:04:20.360 Uh yeah, yeah, it was dope. 2:04:20.560 --> 2:04:25.000 We did some amazing stuff together. So you know, Dog, 2:04:25.240 --> 2:04:27.520 you know you're my favorite. Absolutely, we're going to do 2:04:28.120 --> 2:04:28.680 ship together. 2:04:28.880 --> 2:04:29.200 Let's go. 2:04:30.120 --> 2:04:34.320 Let us go, yo, Rob, We thank you for doing Questions. Fine, 2:04:39.360 --> 2:04:40.040 you're two parter. 2:04:41.680 --> 2:04:45.920 Yeah, so on behalf of Sugar Steve, Laya Fangelo and 2:04:46.160 --> 2:04:49.960 uh unpaid bills somewhere. We also like to give a 2:04:50.040 --> 2:04:53.680 shout out to our our pals at Mazda and they're 2:04:53.800 --> 2:04:57.200 glorious X thirty No, thank you very much, Rob. 2:04:57.120 --> 2:04:57.800 We appreciate it. 2:04:59.720 --> 2:04:59.960 Again. 2:05:00.040 --> 2:05:02.440 On you on your daughter, man, I have what. 2:05:03.240 --> 2:05:08.600 What's her name is? Lola? Oh lol, Lola? Oh yeah, 2:05:10.840 --> 2:05:15.680 may Riley. He's even going forty three, going off forty 2:05:15.680 --> 2:05:19.840 three exactly for sure. All right, y'all, this is quest 2:05:19.880 --> 2:05:21.400 Love and we'll see you on the next go round 2:05:21.400 --> 2:05:27.040 of Quest Love Supreme. M hm. 2:05:30.720 --> 2:05:30.840 Hm. 2:05:33.040 --> 2:05:35.880 What's Love Supreme is a production of iHeart Radio. 2:05:38.960 --> 2:05:42.200 For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart radio, app, 2:05:42.440 --> 2:05:45.520 Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.