Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. Ladies and Gentlemen,
Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition Grand Imperial. Another.
Speaker 2: Wait, I don't feel to encourage from you. Guys are
Speaker 2: snickering behind my back. You know that's that's words rappers say,
Speaker 2: you know, the professors. No, Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to
Speaker 2: another episode of Quest Love Supreme.
Speaker 1: My name is Questlove. We have Teams Supreme with us snickering.
Speaker 2: Laya, Now that makes me sound like the person that
Speaker 2: leads our world with his weak ass.
Speaker 3: Ahead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know exactly.
Speaker 4: I'm doing good contrary to the world I'm doing No, actually, no,
Speaker 4: I'm doing I'm doing good. I'm feeling good about about
Speaker 4: life and whatnot.
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 3: I'm talking to you all.
Speaker 5: Steve.
Speaker 2: Yes, I know this is this is the highlight of
Speaker 2: you know, I look forward to these converse seasons with
Speaker 2: my friends.
Speaker 1: Never now, Sugar Steve, how you doing, Hey, Quest, Hey,
Speaker 1: Team Supreme. Steve. I'm feeling real good right now.
Speaker 2: You know, it's been a long time since we asked
Speaker 2: you about to Sugar Network. What's what's the HAPs of
Speaker 2: the Sugar Network? Since funny you should ask.
Speaker 6: We just ended season three and began season We just
Speaker 6: started season four, which is the Blueberrius Network. Now Blueberry
Speaker 6: We're going to pretend after three years, you don't know
Speaker 6: how the Sugar Network works.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Yes, everybody gets a season.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, yes, season we're on season four, but we've
Speaker 6: only been around for like two and a half years.
Speaker 6: But we're already on season four and the new founder
Speaker 6: is Blueberrius, so you can find him at Blueberrius. It's
Speaker 6: the Blueberrius Network for season four. Thank you for you're
Speaker 6: still the executive producer, right, yeah, I'm the original founder,
Speaker 6: Sugar Steve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's named after you. I've seen that and Fan Tickeolo.
Speaker 7: I'm good, brother, I'm good.
Speaker 1: House it down yourth cacollect.
Speaker 7: It's cool, man.
Speaker 8: I think the governor said that they're about to do
Speaker 8: a phase what they call a phase two point five
Speaker 8: or something, so like now they're starting to open some gyms,
Speaker 8: so like gyms can open it like thirty percent capacity.
Speaker 8: I think restaurants can open it like twenty percent something.
Speaker 7: Crazy. My ass is still in the house, so this
Speaker 7: shit needs nothing to me.
Speaker 4: But but that's yeah, the gym's out here doing the
Speaker 4: little outside thing like they going into the parking lot too.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Some of the gyms are out, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, some of them were. They were actually actually my
Speaker 8: gym for a minute. They were kind of doing it outside,
Speaker 8: but I don't know. I think it kind of fell off.
Speaker 7: But I don't know.
Speaker 8: Just being around a bunch of people just breathing hard
Speaker 8: and sweating like that not seem like a good life playing.
Speaker 8: So yes, I just been sticking to my old man
Speaker 8: walks in the evening and.
Speaker 1: Uh, let's here before old man walks.
Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, just I hit my walk. Bro, still getting
Speaker 8: your tenth doll's that?
Speaker 7: What's up? Man?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I'm morning still are you still every morning six o'clock?
Speaker 2: Rick Rick Ruben put me up to the task and
Speaker 2: I'm still doing it ten thousand a day.
Speaker 4: That's great, man, that's I'm trying to unleash my inner
Speaker 4: strict uh growing a bug and I'm actually gonna get
Speaker 4: on a plane.
Speaker 7: Wow. Really did you coming back to see your people?
Speaker 7: See your mom my?
Speaker 3: Mom is turning seventy and I'm like, can't missed that.
Speaker 8: So I'm e man side actually flew from uh La.
Speaker 8: She she did that flight. She flew from l A
Speaker 8: to DC and she said it was. Actually it ain't.
Speaker 8: It ain't that bad like it was.
Speaker 3: No, it's all good.
Speaker 4: I make sure I eat everything I need to eat
Speaker 4: before I get on the plane. Don't drink nothing, you know,
Speaker 4: And if I do, I got my clor. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: have my gloves, I'm gonna have my mask, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: have my shield, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna you find Jet Blue.
Speaker 3: No, I'm gonna probably do.
Speaker 4: My Mama's my Mama's carrier, United, the one that has
Speaker 4: you know, housed and fed may for forty years.
Speaker 7: Oh that's right, yeah, United.
Speaker 1: I forgot, Yeah, I forgot that.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that this
Speaker 2: particular episode of Court Left Supreme is being brought to
Speaker 2: you by Mazda. I gotta say shout out to Mazda
Speaker 2: for letting me, uh test drive their c X thirty.
Speaker 2: I gotta say it's my first grown man car that
Speaker 2: I personally endrove myself.
Speaker 4: Well, that's like one of those Cuvs, right like they
Speaker 4: got su They had SUVs, but.
Speaker 7: Now they got the crossover. The crossover kind of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, like when I get in it,
Speaker 2: like my driving experience doesn't warrant a turnaround, Like, what's that?
Speaker 2: I never heard for cars that I drive, You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Most cars that I drive are yeah,
Speaker 2: like the set of Pee Wee's Playoffs. But I gotta
Speaker 2: say this, this is kind of official. I enjoy driving it,
Speaker 2: and good luck and trying to get this car back
Speaker 2: from me.
Speaker 1: My appreciate that it's comfortable.
Speaker 2: And plus, you know, I'm on the farm, driving two
Speaker 2: hours every day to the city, and you know this
Speaker 2: is where I listened to all my favorite podcasts and
Speaker 2: my audio books and my meditation stuff.
Speaker 1: So yeah, this this came right in time. I appreciate.
Speaker 7: Follow you on Spotify and I saw you listening to.
Speaker 8: Some some meditation and something.
Speaker 7: I was like, what the hell is this a mirriage playing?
Speaker 1: I was listening.
Speaker 2: I forgot that Spotify actually snitches on what I listened to.
Speaker 4: Right now, yeah, you follow me, you ain't don't see me.
Speaker 7: This is nothing but the brand album for them.
Speaker 2: I forgot the world can see what I'm listening to
Speaker 2: because all I'm listening to is the meditations stuff.
Speaker 8: Yeah it, but it'd be the time too, so it'll
Speaker 8: be it's not you know, I mean, it'll be like
Speaker 8: damn two o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: It'll be late.
Speaker 2: And so I see, I'll say that from midnight till
Speaker 2: like eleven in the morning.
Speaker 1: That's my meditation.
Speaker 4: Now, so you got to get to the change this
Speaker 4: picture though, they got your Philadelphia Experiment picture. I don't
Speaker 4: even know who that person is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, not not you follow my see people
Speaker 2: follow always look for quest love.
Speaker 1: No, you gotta follow my my my.
Speaker 8: Oh, your government, the government.
Speaker 3: Shoot, Neil K. Thompson is right there, you are, so right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how you mere.
Speaker 3: I don't think people know this, because that's why your
Speaker 3: listeners are different.
Speaker 1: You got okay, I know, yeah, like only only for
Speaker 1: certain people.
Speaker 7: Now, yeah, that's on for cute link niggas.
Speaker 2: Because exactly, only for certain for certain niggas.
Speaker 1: That's exactly why I did that, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, it's good to hear that you're you're facing your fears.
Speaker 2: I too, am going to get on a plane tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Ain't you been getting on a plane. Don't play me
Speaker 3: play lotto.
Speaker 2: No, I've not been on a plane since. So you
Speaker 2: drove because y'all drove to the all I've been driving
Speaker 2: to Ohio since that time period.
Speaker 4: I have questions about what y'all doing up there? Y'all
Speaker 4: doing something productive out there?
Speaker 1: I am you mean, do you want to go with them?
Speaker 5: I'm not just you.
Speaker 3: I was just curious. I didn't know how to ask.
Speaker 4: But I see all the pictures posted and I see
Speaker 4: you know, all the social celebrities, and I'm just wondering,
Speaker 4: since we know we're in an entrance in State of
Speaker 4: the World, are y'all like actually talking about things that
Speaker 4: could help you know that y'all are powerful individuals.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's not G thirteen, but I will
Speaker 2: say that a good four to five hours is pretty much.
Speaker 2: I don't know when these episodes are coming to be
Speaker 2: or I don't know if it belongs to quality or
Speaker 2: Dave owns the content. But dude, I told you that's
Speaker 2: what he was doing. I told you it's about Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's at this rate, I think he has I know, Lie,
Speaker 2: I think there's about forty hours of content.
Speaker 4: Yo, Nicol were releasing our Dave Chappelle episode that no,
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, oh man, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not that's the thing.
Speaker 2: I don't think Dave has a platform, but this is
Speaker 2: going to go somewhere someday.
Speaker 1: But the last time I did it.
Speaker 2: Last time it was a really good episode, like most
Speaker 2: like basically each episode is most quality.
Speaker 1: Dave like, they're the anchors. Those three are the anchors,
Speaker 1: and then me.
Speaker 2: And whatever comedian Kevin Hart uh sometimes uh Kevin Hart,
Speaker 2: Bill Burr was the last time before that was John
Speaker 2: hamm Common, Tiffany.
Speaker 1: Hattish and uh.
Speaker 2: You know, but I will say that, yeah, and it's
Speaker 2: it's it's not just what I won't say. It's not
Speaker 2: just us. I don't want to say fluffing. No, it's
Speaker 2: it's not it's us, Yeah, it's not. Yeah, it's actually
Speaker 2: us holding people's feet to the fire. Like everything that
Speaker 2: including an hour about you know, quality's situation with the
Speaker 2: with social media and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Like she got real.
Speaker 2: So I don't know when or where it's coming or
Speaker 2: how it's coming or whatever.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I mean, besides that Dave actually has
Speaker 1: taken over his town.
Speaker 2: I got to commend him, like he has the resources
Speaker 2: and the Governor's blessing to.
Speaker 3: You know, Ohio is very important.
Speaker 4: Another an you know, the another is that I was asking,
Speaker 4: especially in the election, it's very important.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's Yeah, he's you know, he has medical
Speaker 2: people on standby, he's testing, testing his audience, testing his guests.
Speaker 2: And then once you do that, I mean you just yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's rather incredible. Well, that is nice for me
Speaker 2: to go back a third time.
Speaker 1: But I.
Speaker 4: Also do hope that you'll figure out some other things
Speaker 4: to do, like some things like similar to what Lebron
Speaker 4: is doing. I know everybody doesn't have Lebron money, but
Speaker 4: on some levels of opening up stadiums and figuring out
Speaker 4: how we're going to get people out to vote and whatnot,
Speaker 4: comfortable places and save spaces.
Speaker 3: Anything that could help the cause.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying outside of just some good conversation,
Speaker 4: but I appreciate the conversation as well.
Speaker 1: Well. All I can do on my end is raised money,
Speaker 1: so I can.
Speaker 3: Tell you tell them, and then you know, working out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm certain that that's on his mind. I mean
Speaker 2: that that's been discussed. I don't know what his direct
Speaker 2: plans are for November, but you know, right now I'm
Speaker 2: a member of team. When we all vote, we're registering
Speaker 2: about thirty seven thousand people every night.
Speaker 1: DJ SU.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just trying to it's a mystic.
Speaker 4: We can win as long as we keep our heads
Speaker 4: to the sky. This whole renewed sense of optimism is
Speaker 4: what I feel.
Speaker 2: Yes, No, I do have optimism. What I'm what I'm
Speaker 2: more worried about. I mean, i'd be lying if I
Speaker 2: didn't say that I was. I wasn't worried about the
Speaker 2: transition period like November.
Speaker 8: I'm actually getting out from November to January.
Speaker 2: Win or lose, Like you know he wins, Yeah, November
Speaker 2: to January as hell for the next four years as hell,
Speaker 2: but lose you know, who knows what that transition will
Speaker 2: be like for those three months borderline hoping that he
Speaker 2: I predict that he's going to I realized you can
Speaker 2: lose the presidency if you remove the.
Speaker 1: Goalposts of the election day.
Speaker 2: So if he moves the election day, then instantly Pelosi
Speaker 2: becomes president. And so I think in his head it's
Speaker 2: like I'd rather be removed than lose elections, right, So that's.
Speaker 3: Going to be another that's another theory.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so saying that he yeah, he'll
Speaker 2: plan it as the crats forced me out, and like,
Speaker 2: so that's what I'm hoping for. But you know, of course,
Speaker 2: that they follow the law, but they've been lolessed ninety
Speaker 2: nine percent of the time.
Speaker 7: So followed the ship yet why not?
Speaker 3: Yeah? But I'm just saying I ain't getting the mailers
Speaker 3: like I used.
Speaker 8: To, right, I got I actually got my mail today.
Speaker 8: My mail has been running pretty school.
Speaker 7: But yeah, it's this ship is nuts.
Speaker 1: So let's get to our episode, ladies and gentlemen. Today.
Speaker 1: Our steam guest is a is a g That's right.
Speaker 2: He's a multi Grammy Award winning and Emmy Award winning
Speaker 2: not he I'm sorry, not ghetto, but your your your g.
Speaker 1: I have a soul train award. Is that going there somewhere?
Speaker 1: That doesn't count your soul training award?
Speaker 5: I have a soldier war I'm jealous, yo, from the
Speaker 5: man that was.
Speaker 1: Still alive when I got it. Wow, I got a
Speaker 1: real one. I'm not okay that intro Ladies, Yes, I
Speaker 1: love it.
Speaker 3: That whatever.
Speaker 7: Brot one.
Speaker 1: Man, I got a one month old of a girl
Speaker 1: you know quarantine? Yeah? Wow, that was.
Speaker 3: The map that's coping season.
Speaker 9: Wow.
Speaker 7: Wow man, congratulations bro bro thank you man.
Speaker 1: What's up? Steve? Congratulations? How you doing? I'm good? Kick
Speaker 1: and playing and play.
Speaker 2: Wait let me, let's let our listeners know for those
Speaker 2: that don't know, because it will be a bunch of
Speaker 2: inside jokes and you know it'll be so literally. Yeah,
Speaker 2: our guest today is Uh, he's literally worked with the
Speaker 2: best of them. Name him Uh Tip Uh, Michell Stilla,
Speaker 2: Jill Scott.
Speaker 1: Have we worked worked together? My fault? Did y'all did?
Speaker 5: Y'all did?
Speaker 7: Cover with a lot of lune.
Speaker 1: We did? Hey? Wait, way to circle back speaking.
Speaker 2: Our theme today is having a renewed sense of optimism,
Speaker 2: and our guests actually covered sounds Blackness, Mortal, Classic Optimistic
Speaker 2: with Brandy out right now Yes with Brandy and August
Speaker 2: Green featuring Common and Kareean Riggans and probably one of
Speaker 2: the craziest, funniest people I know. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome
Speaker 2: Robert Glass.
Speaker 7: Finally, it's been long overdue, but.
Speaker 4: Me just for the people that's listening, we should tell
Speaker 4: them the only reason it's taking as long as because
Speaker 4: Amir always wanted to be in the studio, in a
Speaker 4: really banging ass studio with rob And that's the reason
Speaker 4: we haven't made this happened because lady somewhere.
Speaker 2: Exactly we thought we had like hopes and dreams of
Speaker 2: like jam sessions and whatnot.
Speaker 1: I kept looking. I kept looking at my resume, like, God,
Speaker 1: damn it, am I good enough to be friends Robert?
Speaker 1: Wait time out?
Speaker 2: Okay, so I just I pulled up your Wikipedia page.
Speaker 2: Have you seen your Wikipedia page lately?
Speaker 1: I haven't seen what's with this photo? The photo that
Speaker 1: they got for you.
Speaker 7: Is it with the dreads?
Speaker 5: The dreads?
Speaker 2: It's like his sears Roebuck catalog pose.
Speaker 1: It's the ray Kwan You know when Ray Kwan.
Speaker 2: Puts the temple is uh yeah, yeah, I'm not proud
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 7: I'm I think we all have one of those polls
Speaker 7: that picture with that pole, because when you're deep in thought,
Speaker 7: that's exactly what you do.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 9: I was doing my time where I was really fighting
Speaker 9: against taking photos at the piano because every time I
Speaker 9: took photos at the piano, I was like, that's corny.
Speaker 1: I want to be away from the piano.
Speaker 9: And that was during the time where I was like, nah,
Speaker 9: I wanted to do other stuff and I didn't know
Speaker 9: what to do, and it was weird photography.
Speaker 1: This one.
Speaker 2: This, I was like, this, right, is that one photographers
Speaker 2: suggested the piano to you is like photographers telling the roots.
Speaker 2: We gotta go out to the forest to take photos.
Speaker 1: I have an idea we go up to the forest
Speaker 1: or put shackles on your feet one of the two
Speaker 1: roots exactly.
Speaker 7: Take you next picture next to Alex Haley.
Speaker 1: Where are you right now, Robert, I'm in LA. I'm
Speaker 1: at the LA spot.
Speaker 3: That's right, he one of us.
Speaker 1: Now you live out in LA right now?
Speaker 5: Yep?
Speaker 9: Yeah, Well I always had an l A spot in
Speaker 9: New York spot. But now I'm just here in l
Speaker 9: A for a long period of time, so I'm pretty
Speaker 9: much I'm pretty much here.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna call this home. How long have
Speaker 1: you lived out there?
Speaker 9: I had this place here for about four years, but
Speaker 9: I've never really spent you know. You come in for
Speaker 9: a week here and you know, but now I'm like
Speaker 9: staying here, you know.
Speaker 2: So see, I always I always thought there was a stigma. Well,
Speaker 2: you know, you are a serious musician, and I always
Speaker 2: thought that LA had a stigma on serious musicians, Like
Speaker 2: there's always been this cloud of sort of pretentiousness with
Speaker 2: LA session musicians and LA jazz musicians, at least in
Speaker 2: the sixties, seventies, eighties, and nineties. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's still yea, it has held over or not.
Speaker 9: But you know, I mean, I don't. When I'm out here,
Speaker 9: I'm not being a musician. Okay, when I'm out here,
Speaker 9: I'm producing. I'm gonna film film, I'm scoring films, you
Speaker 9: know what I mean. Like I always say, New York
Speaker 9: is where you learn how to play, and then LA
Speaker 9: is where you make money.
Speaker 4: So that's why I moved out here one.
Speaker 1: Per You know, I'm actually long overdue being here in LA.
Speaker 5: Really, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I should have been here ten years ago.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, man, just for the opportunities of what I
Speaker 9: want to do, because I'm not trying to be the
Speaker 9: best jazz piano player in the world anymore. That's what
Speaker 9: I've moved to New York to do. When I was
Speaker 9: the high school, I said, I'm.
Speaker 5: Going to New York.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the best jazz piano player.
Speaker 9: And it was all about that, all about bigger musician
Speaker 9: years we were there already.
Speaker 1: I'm over that. Yeah, you.
Speaker 8: Want to work, work, Yeah, but that's what it's supposed
Speaker 8: to be though, that's how it's supposed to be. I
Speaker 8: had like a og tell me, like, you know, the
Speaker 8: first part of your career. It's about becoming the best,
Speaker 8: right Yeah, But then after a while it's like, Nigga,
Speaker 8: I gotta put myself in the position to make the
Speaker 8: most money.
Speaker 1: Boom exactly.
Speaker 4: Let me ask as a fan, does that mean that
Speaker 4: you've done everything you want to to do musically?
Speaker 3: Like are your music goals or or oh.
Speaker 1: No, no, no no no.
Speaker 9: I put myself in a position where I can always
Speaker 9: go back and do that. You know, I can always
Speaker 9: make records. I don't have to do the New York
Speaker 9: grind anymore. I don't have to be in New York
Speaker 9: and beat play the clubs and play the gigs, you
Speaker 9: know what I mean. I can go to New York
Speaker 9: and play my show when I want to play my
Speaker 9: shows and stuff like that while I'm out here also
Speaker 9: doing film scores and and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: That's why you strategized and did those those that when
Speaker 4: you had a whole residency in New York right before
Speaker 4: you left them, right, that was brilliant.
Speaker 5: That worked.
Speaker 1: It worked out. So that's all I got to do.
Speaker 9: Every year, I go to New York and stay one
Speaker 9: month and do all my shows New York.
Speaker 1: Get all your show out the way, get your quarter
Speaker 1: done and then come out out.
Speaker 7: I love it.
Speaker 1: I see my son. My son's in New York, so
Speaker 1: I go there.
Speaker 9: I get, you know, those reasons I just keep my
Speaker 9: New York spot is so I can go back and
Speaker 9: see my son all the time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9: But you know, other than that, it's it's bye bye
Speaker 9: New York.
Speaker 7: We have a chance. Has your son had a chance
Speaker 7: to meet his sister yet?
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's one month old? Not yet?
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it's just whatever.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: Your son hilarious?
Speaker 1: How dangerous is he as a musician? Now? Yo?
Speaker 9: Now, dude, Now he there's not a deal of joint
Speaker 9: he doesn't know, and he there's not a deal of
Speaker 9: joint that he doesn't know how it's made. Like he's
Speaker 9: producing beats. Him and Kareem Riggins Sonny Dreams are making
Speaker 9: the EP together.
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 1: I love it?
Speaker 9: So Glasperriem glassper Riggins like yeah, because first of all,
Speaker 9: Kareem's son is crazy with the beer.
Speaker 2: Have you heard his beats? No, he's like maybe thirteen. Yeah.
Speaker 1: First of all, generation is going to kill.
Speaker 9: Me, yo. First of all on drums, he's crazy. Like,
Speaker 9: I hire him right now, for a hip I get
Speaker 9: not even joking. We jammed, and we jammed a few
Speaker 9: times here in La I believe you killing. But then
Speaker 9: his beats are his beat so stupid. So him and
Speaker 9: Riley and my son they always play Fortnite. They're always
Speaker 9: on the playing Fortnite ship. And then they started making
Speaker 9: beats and going back and forth with the beats and ship.
Speaker 1: So now they Riley make and yeah JM and Lewis Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's literally that's what he's on now, that's literally what.
Speaker 4: He's on, these kids with Swiss beats son and oh
Speaker 4: my god, Jill Scott her Son making beats too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 7: They have access to the tools that we didn't like.
Speaker 8: I mean, the technology is so, I mean, you can
Speaker 8: make beats on your damn phone now, you know what
Speaker 8: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So, but Riley's like, he ain't me yesterday that dad,
Speaker 1: can you give me an n PC one? Wow? I
Speaker 1: was like, uh yeah, right now. You just released the
Speaker 1: project with uh ninth correct.
Speaker 9: Yeah, So we he's an album called we got an
Speaker 9: album called Dinner Party. Yeah, me Terry Smart and co
Speaker 9: See and Knife and yeah.
Speaker 8: So with Felix, Felix, Felix there Felix, Man, I do.
Speaker 1: Felix is really dope. His beats a dope too. He
Speaker 1: makes dope beachs too.
Speaker 7: He made tracks, okay, yeah, stupid tracks.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just everybody making tracks. Everybody makes tracks. I know.
Speaker 1: I've never been a track. I've never been. I've never
Speaker 1: wanted to make track. I gotta make some beach right exactly.
Speaker 9: It's like, I know, all the dopest musicians, Let's get
Speaker 9: in the room and make the dope ship. That's how
Speaker 9: I'm always like that, like pluck that. But yeah, you
Speaker 9: got to make tracks. But but yeah, so we just
Speaker 9: did a dinner party right now. We just we're just
Speaker 9: finishing up a dinner party kind of remix kind of
Speaker 9: situation where we took all the songs, but we put
Speaker 9: guests on them. So we got Corday and Snoop and
Speaker 9: a few other artist Balao on there and a few
Speaker 9: other artists on those actual songs.
Speaker 1: Tank from Taking the Bengals. Yeah, she's dope. I love her, man,
Speaker 1: She's dope.
Speaker 9: Uh So, yeah, finishing up that. That should be done
Speaker 9: in a few days actually, and then I'm still in
Speaker 9: the middle of working on Black Radio three as well.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, So wait, all right, can we just
Speaker 3: real quick?
Speaker 1: Don't you don't know I'm working on Black Radio three?
Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, you know listen, I know, I
Speaker 8: just forget.
Speaker 7: I just forgot it was I forgot that was coming.
Speaker 3: So that means that you all Black Radio three.
Speaker 8: You're supposed to be, I was supposed to be. I
Speaker 8: may be like, here's here's the thing.
Speaker 5: I'm not playing alone.
Speaker 7: Let me tell you.
Speaker 1: Let me first, what had happened was to put happened.
Speaker 8: Hey man, you can't put me on blast and don't
Speaker 8: want them to say myself, So let me set the
Speaker 8: up straight fallow. Look, we in the goddamn pandemic. I
Speaker 8: don't feel like doing ship.
Speaker 7: I have to learn.
Speaker 8: Let me look, I'm clar I'm in a space where
Speaker 8: I have to learn. The first like three four months
Speaker 8: of this ship was just like what the fuck right?
Speaker 8: So I had to learn how to create in this space.
Speaker 8: I knew how to create in the old world when
Speaker 8: we was out torn and moving around and bumping in
Speaker 8: each other and all that shit.
Speaker 7: I know how to feel that creative tank.
Speaker 8: I had to learn how to feel that creative tank
Speaker 8: in the space where we can't go.
Speaker 7: No, fucking where. So now I'm waking up again.
Speaker 8: I'm kind of finding it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 8: I'm kind of finding a voice again.
Speaker 7: So now to everyone, to Robert Glass and everyone.
Speaker 8: Now, yes, there's a big possibility I'll probably be on
Speaker 8: black radio now because I know how to create. I'm
Speaker 8: kind of finding my voice now. But at the time
Speaker 8: he reached out to me, he was like, yeah, man,
Speaker 8: I got this joint.
Speaker 7: Send it. I'm like, Nigga just watched my aunt die
Speaker 7: on Zoom. Nigga Like what the.
Speaker 8: Too?
Speaker 3: Literally, oh, mom was like months ago.
Speaker 7: I had to log into an app to watch a funeral.
Speaker 1: Nigga, this is.
Speaker 7: We're right now? Like yeah, wait, yeah, yeah that might
Speaker 7: be there was up.
Speaker 2: Okay, this might be my old age, but I'm under
Speaker 2: the impression that you actually invented or pioneered.
Speaker 1: D I wydeness when it comes as far as I know.
Speaker 2: You have an Apple on your phone that you do
Speaker 2: the vocals on and then you just be sitting it
Speaker 2: the motherfuckers.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I mean when me and Nick did foreign exchange, Yeah,
Speaker 8: that was kind of the first, you know, in terms
Speaker 8: of I mean it was us doing it, and then
Speaker 8: I think before that it was the postal service with
Speaker 8: your boy from Deaf Cab, but they were actually sending
Speaker 8: it through the mail. We were sending it just you know,
Speaker 8: through I am. But even with then, I mean that
Speaker 8: was still at the time where you know, the world
Speaker 8: was open, like we were going out, I was going
Speaker 8: to doing shows and whatever. So the thing about now
Speaker 8: is just creating in this part where I think people
Speaker 8: are having most of the artists, my homies. I talked
Speaker 8: to the thing that the kind of prevalent feeling is
Speaker 8: that we're still being held accountable or we're still being
Speaker 8: held we're still accountable for the same we're still under
Speaker 8: the same pressure, but we no longer have those things
Speaker 8: we were able to do to release that pressure.
Speaker 7: So it's like you motherfucker still won't need it.
Speaker 8: Damn rappidy rap rapidly saying and do all this ship,
Speaker 8: But I can't go to the gym right where and
Speaker 8: where's the release? Like I can't I can't go to
Speaker 8: the gym, I can't go to the movies.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Like, well.
Speaker 4: Apologize, I apologize, and I appreciate you for having this
Speaker 4: moment because there's so many people that will feeling the
Speaker 4: same way.
Speaker 3: You're right, You're right, you right.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, but I'm coming.
Speaker 8: But you know now, like I'm figuring out like I
Speaker 8: got I'm me and Pooven working on ship like I
Speaker 8: got ship coming, so so now I mean I'm waking
Speaker 8: up now like now I figured out so so now
Speaker 8: glass for like with joints like us being black Radio three.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that more than like what happened, because it's.
Speaker 2: Always I have a studio to Robert, I.
Speaker 5: Want you on there too.
Speaker 1: I was gonna hit you, but I had a whole
Speaker 1: idea that we'll figure that out. Yeah, I'll do it.
Speaker 1: If if doesn't do it, I'll do it.
Speaker 7: Bars.
Speaker 3: You can see your little brother.
Speaker 7: You have voiceover, great voiceover.
Speaker 4: I'm just joking, But I'm more curious about who else
Speaker 4: is because I was just curious because I was like, damn, Robert,
Speaker 4: you gotta I know people be coming at you when
Speaker 4: you do these black radio albums.
Speaker 9: Like yeah, well you haven't even I haven't even said
Speaker 9: it out loud that I was doing it until I
Speaker 9: released a single a few days ago, one of the
Speaker 9: singles off the record with the song I did called
Speaker 9: Betty than I Imagine and with her with her and Michelle
Speaker 9: de gil Cello. Yeah, so that's that's something I was
Speaker 9: holding for Black Radio three. But I was like, fuck it, yeah,
Speaker 9: you know, because you still.
Speaker 1: Go on the record correct, yes, yes, But I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hold it any longer.
Speaker 9: I'll put this one out, you know, just to just
Speaker 9: put it out there, because I need to put some music,
Speaker 9: just like I want to put something out, and this
Speaker 9: is a good time for it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9: And you know, so yeah, I got to December to
Speaker 9: finish it, and I'm gonna go, come on next year.
Speaker 2: What have you been doing the last six months? Have
Speaker 2: you been working at home or just like doing nothing?
Speaker 1: Well? No, I learned how to do logic pretty good.
Speaker 7: I got better, bro, That's what I do. That's all.
Speaker 7: That's where I track all my shit in.
Speaker 1: I got.
Speaker 9: I got better at logic. And actually I'm building a
Speaker 9: mi a terist a building a studio right behind my
Speaker 9: house right here, like literally ten steps away. There's a
Speaker 9: one apartment behind my crib and my landlord moved out
Speaker 9: of there and we took it over and made it
Speaker 9: the studio. So we'll be finished with that in like
Speaker 9: two three weeks. So that'll be a place where we
Speaker 9: can like really go work, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9: And so we've been doing that, and I've been.
Speaker 1: About the noise.
Speaker 9: No, you can't even they can't. It's separate. It's just
Speaker 9: no neighbor. The way it is. My landlord had it.
Speaker 9: My landlord had it built by and people from our church.
Speaker 9: It's like all sement and it stands with its own.
Speaker 9: It's like isolated.
Speaker 1: Is dope. It's really dope.
Speaker 3: So okay, okay, I'm curious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yep, you know this is we we've known
Speaker 2: each other for the longest, but we really have never
Speaker 2: had an in depth conversation. And what I always no, no,
Speaker 2: But the thing I was always curious about was that
Speaker 2: I don't think it's same way that Philadelphia had its
Speaker 2: renaissance in two thousand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I felt that Houston.
Speaker 2: Had that same renaissance in two thousand and six, two
Speaker 2: thousand and seven, you know, with all these musicians who
Speaker 2: at the time, like what was going on in your
Speaker 2: high school, with all these musicians that were thinking left
Speaker 2: of center, like what was what was in the air,
Speaker 2: like what was going on?
Speaker 9: So the cool thing about my high school, which you know,
Speaker 9: Art high school.
Speaker 1: Is because you went to one of the best ones
Speaker 1: in Philly, so you went to perform in art high school.
Speaker 9: I want to perform in ours high school in Houston
Speaker 9: High School for performing arts. And the cool thing about
Speaker 9: my high school, which I think we might be the
Speaker 9: only high school that did this. I'm pretty sure, or
Speaker 9: maybe not. You can tell me if y'all did this.
Speaker 9: My jazz director and not even just the jazz director
Speaker 9: in all the art areas, they hired teachers that didn't
Speaker 9: have degrees.
Speaker 1: Wow. So our jazz cats that were teachers were just cats.
Speaker 7: Wow. Yeah, they didn't.
Speaker 1: Have degrees they design or purpose or yes.
Speaker 9: Because the motherfuckers that have to degrees most of the time,
Speaker 9: you know. But the cats that are the cats, they're
Speaker 9: just playing. They out there playing. So they was coming
Speaker 9: to the school showing us what's hip right now because
Speaker 9: they're out there playing right now. So the cats that
Speaker 9: was over our jazz, our jazz classes, our jazz professor,
Speaker 9: doctor Morgan had a degree, but he made it so
Speaker 9: he would just hire different and sometimes we would see
Speaker 9: one dude for three months, never see him again.
Speaker 7: But he was dope. Yeah, but it was dope.
Speaker 9: And what one of the cool things about us school
Speaker 9: also is we had a class period called listening.
Speaker 1: You didn't play.
Speaker 9: You came in and we had a CD player and
Speaker 9: everybody in the class could bring anything they wanted to
Speaker 9: and you just sat there and listened.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 9: And part of the problem with a lot of musicians
Speaker 9: is they don't listen, and they don't know what to
Speaker 9: listen to, and they just don't listen, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean.
Speaker 9: And our jazz rector made a class called listen, so
Speaker 9: I would bring stuff. It could be gospel, it could
Speaker 9: be anything, and and and all the cats to bring stuff,
Speaker 9: you know, every Mark Kelly, that's Mark about it.
Speaker 1: It was who did you go to school with?
Speaker 9: Like in my class? In my I went to school
Speaker 9: with Mark Kelly. I went to school with Kendrick Scott, drummer,
Speaker 9: really guitar player, Mike Marino, Beyonce, she was there for
Speaker 9: one year.
Speaker 1: Brian, Brian Cox, he was my best friend.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I met Yeah, I met Brian grad and he
Speaker 9: told me to come there.
Speaker 1: We met at a talent competition Sammy Davis.
Speaker 9: Junior Awards, and I was playing I was playing piano
Speaker 9: with a gospel group and he was singing with.
Speaker 1: An R and B group called business or Pleasure?
Speaker 7: What that was?
Speaker 5: That was?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 1: That was ninety three ninety two.
Speaker 7: Yeah, please tell please tell me, please tell me. Measure
Speaker 7: was spelled with a Z.
Speaker 9: I got to do so yeah. So so Brian we
Speaker 9: met at that competition. He's like, yo, man, you got
Speaker 9: to come to PBA where you were all all the
Speaker 9: cats playing this blah.
Speaker 1: I was like, what's that? You know?
Speaker 9: So he told me about it, and I didn't go
Speaker 9: with my freshman year because I thought I was going
Speaker 9: to be a basketball player. So I was like, nah,
Speaker 9: I want to play basketball. So I wasn't even serious
Speaker 9: about piano yet. Yeah, I want to play basketball. I
Speaker 9: wasn't serious.
Speaker 1: How old were you when you got serious about piano?
Speaker 9: When I got serious, Uh, I was in like tenth
Speaker 9: grade when I was like, I want to good night,
Speaker 9: But I was playing the Church and stuff I was playing.
Speaker 9: I started playing the Church. I literally started playing Canada.
Speaker 9: My mom was My mom was the musa director at
Speaker 9: church and she sang in clubs all through the week,
Speaker 9: like clubs like R and B gigs and stuff like that.
Speaker 9: She was literally like WHOOPI Goldberg my sister at all
Speaker 9: that and then on Sundays, did she have a group? Yes,
Speaker 9: her and my stepdad had the group. They were literally
Speaker 9: like seafists and receipt ex absolutely hilarious. Oh wow, the
Speaker 9: early eighties, the curls, the colors.
Speaker 1: So for real.
Speaker 9: But but but on Sundays, my mom was a minister
Speaker 9: of music. I had a small church, you know, so
Speaker 9: they allowed me to play the little broke ass organ
Speaker 9: that was in the corner. So I used to play
Speaker 9: every Sunday the pastor whose birthday is it? And when
Speaker 9: I was eleven, I was playing with one finger Happy Birthday.
Speaker 9: I figured out how to play Happy Birthday with one finger,
Speaker 9: and then they just let me every sun they just
Speaker 9: let me sit there and to figure the service out.
Speaker 9: I started playing Luther Van songs with one finger because
Speaker 9: my dad played with the vandjoff to the house every day.
Speaker 1: All the time. And so I was learning all.
Speaker 9: That kind of songs and just and then I just
Speaker 9: I really talked, I really taught myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I just.
Speaker 9: You know, and then that age like yeah, maybe age fourteen,
Speaker 9: that's when I no, what's tenth tenth grade?
Speaker 1: I don't know, tenth grade is whatever.
Speaker 9: I auditioned with I auditioned with three gospel songsu I
Speaker 9: didn't know any jazz tuns, so there was no guy.
Speaker 4: Wait, but up from beginnings of church to the fifteen
Speaker 4: there was nobody, got no guidance, nobody to say, but
Speaker 4: this is how you really do this?
Speaker 9: Well, See, my mom had a band and in her
Speaker 9: band there was a piano piano player named Alan Mosley
Speaker 9: that nobody knows, one of them cats from your hometown that.
Speaker 1: Was drunk but was really good. And you know he's
Speaker 1: a legend. You never see him.
Speaker 9: So I used to sit next to him on the
Speaker 9: piano eventure and they would have rehearsals because we had
Speaker 9: rehearsals at our crib. We had pianos and a have
Speaker 9: rehearsals the cribs. I would sit there and watch them.
Speaker 9: So the only song I played at my audition that
Speaker 9: was jazzy was He taught me how to play the
Speaker 9: Spider Man theme in the in the in the form
Speaker 9: of a c minor blues.
Speaker 1: So he taught me how to walk a baseline.
Speaker 2: Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boo.
Speaker 9: Well, so that's what I did that and I did
Speaker 9: three gospel songs, and then I.
Speaker 1: Got in wait speaking which wait.
Speaker 2: Robert, you remember that time I bet you that you
Speaker 2: wouldn't ah, man, this is this is the most the
Speaker 2: most devastating gig of my life.
Speaker 1: Was Robert as a joke.
Speaker 2: You know, I think Robert says, I'm gonna sneak the
Speaker 2: Smurts theme into this jay Z song.
Speaker 1: All right, so it was one of them. This is
Speaker 1: one of them. It was all right.
Speaker 2: So me and Robert Glasper were we were like, uh,
Speaker 2: paying tribute to jay Z at one of these like
Speaker 2: you know, twenty five thousand dollars plate banquet spots. And
Speaker 2: at the last minute I told Glass but I said, yo, like,
Speaker 2: you know, do something like really uh, you know, a
Speaker 2: high class for these people, like, you know, make it
Speaker 2: sound like classical stuff. And he gets at the piano
Speaker 2: and starts off like you know, you know, like Alicia
Speaker 2: Keys first came out playing for a lease.
Speaker 1: You think of like some deep ship. So Robert goes.
Speaker 2: And the audience like Mariah Carey, Yoka Owner, Everyone's looking
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, this motherfucker starts playing this person.
Speaker 1: Michaelphone. I was like, what mother fuck are you playing
Speaker 1: the smurs right now.
Speaker 2: But then when we got up, it went downhill from
Speaker 2: there because then Tarik forgot all jay Z's lyrics in
Speaker 2: front of jay Z.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, man, the worst gig ever.
Speaker 2: But I remember when we gonna stage, y'all go on
Speaker 2: the wheel, drunk on your shoes. She came to she
Speaker 2: just came threw up and just fell on me and
Speaker 2: like a hug and fell up and she was like
Speaker 2: yoga owner or her sister threw up on somebody's shoes
Speaker 2: And YO about that kid, Bro, that's like.
Speaker 4: One of y'all's like a George Clinton story, y'all make
Speaker 4: sure I remember that.
Speaker 2: That's so James just signed to the label. I thought
Speaker 2: he was about to get dropped. I was calling me
Speaker 2: and like, how could you guys forget his music?
Speaker 1: Everyone knows the song? Right?
Speaker 3: Were you always this person? Like in school too?
Speaker 4: Were like were you always funny and like you know,
Speaker 4: outgoing or whatnot?
Speaker 3: Where that is that the same you always?
Speaker 9: Yeah? I was the kid that I had to sit
Speaker 9: down in the hallway. Yeah, I was way a couple
Speaker 9: of times.
Speaker 5: That was me.
Speaker 9: That was me the whole all the time. Yeah, Literally
Speaker 9: I ran into a girl. Dude, maybe in January. I
Speaker 9: don't know December. I was in Houston, went to a
Speaker 9: I went to a barz and Noble. Ran into an
Speaker 9: elementary school friend of mine. I met and we were
Speaker 9: in the same play. We played Hunky Hucky Berry Finn play.
Speaker 9: I played Hunckyberry Finn.
Speaker 7: Oh wow.
Speaker 9: In fifth grade. That was my debut on stage. That's
Speaker 9: the only thing I've ever done acting.
Speaker 1: I played us.
Speaker 9: Tom Tom Sawyer. Tom Sawyer was an Indian dude. We're
Speaker 9: we're ahead of our time. We were out there.
Speaker 5: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: First of my look and I met this I saw
Speaker 1: this girl. She looked at me. Oh my god, Robert.
Speaker 9: Soon I saw her, I was like the pig, That's
Speaker 9: what I said. She was the pig in the play.
Speaker 9: She looked exactly the same, exactly and she was like,
Speaker 9: oh my god, you still haven't changed since you were
Speaker 9: in fourth grade.
Speaker 1: This is so crazy.
Speaker 5: I was like, damn, I have it.
Speaker 1: I literally haven't wait. Question. Was Chris at your school
Speaker 1: as well? Chris Dave. I don't know how old Chris is. Chris,
Speaker 1: he's but he's like ninety he's ninety two.
Speaker 5: Chris.
Speaker 9: He's supposed to be as good as he as he's
Speaker 9: one hundred and thirteen. Chris ch goddamn Like, No, Chris went.
Speaker 9: Chris graduated from PBA in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1: Chris is my age. Chris is like Chris is like
Speaker 1: forty is he is? He forty seven to forty eight?
Speaker 1: Got yo because his voice make you think that he's.
Speaker 9: He keeps bring a prodigy, because you keep thinking he's
Speaker 9: the little kid. It's old as fuck. I didn't You're like,
Speaker 9: this is thirteen year old's amazing?
Speaker 1: How did you do that?
Speaker 9: No, so, Chris, we know, So Chris. That was a
Speaker 9: drummernamed Mark sim before you you know, mart Mark Simmons. No, okay,
Speaker 9: so Mark Simmons was probably the beginning.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 9: Before Mark Simmons, there was the lineage of drummers at
Speaker 9: the school. There was what's the fucking dude that played
Speaker 9: with Tyer of Power anyway.
Speaker 1: Power drummers?
Speaker 9: Uh fucking Dave. No, not the famous one, the other guy.
Speaker 9: Maybe he did some tours never mind, yeah him not.
Speaker 9: After that. After that there was Mark Simmons, Mark Simmons.
Speaker 9: If you ever saw in the last twenty years or whatever,
Speaker 9: Algierro or fucking George Benson, he was on drums. The
Speaker 9: guy that was elect maybe a year or two order
Speaker 9: than Chris. That made Chris like really sad because he
Speaker 9: did something to Chris in high school really bad.
Speaker 1: So Chris was.
Speaker 5: Mad at him.
Speaker 1: He had a been deata against him the whole time.
Speaker 1: So Chris, that's where that fire under Chris's ass.
Speaker 9: That's what lit a fire. Have to do with the
Speaker 9: girl that made Chris go in the practice room and
Speaker 9: never come out. That's the story. All my friends that
Speaker 9: are around that time tell that story. They were like, yo,
Speaker 9: he went to practice with and they come out practice room.
Speaker 9: So and there was Eric Harlan after Chris. They went
Speaker 9: together around the same time. Maybe Chris is a senor,
Speaker 9: maybe Eric was, you know, a sophomore or something or
Speaker 9: a freshman.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 9: After that, then there was Kendrick Scott and then Jamiah
Speaker 9: you know, Jamiah Williams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jamayer.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they're still putting out some great motherfucker. James Francis,
Speaker 9: you know, he's he's of that Francis from Alston. His
Speaker 9: parents used to drop him off when I would do
Speaker 9: gigs in Houston. James used to do His parents used
Speaker 9: to drop him off at my soundchecks so he could
Speaker 9: watch a soundcheck because he was too young to come
Speaker 9: for the show. So I used to let him sit
Speaker 9: like right by me and stuff and watch my soundchecks
Speaker 9: because he wasn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when he got to New York. Yeah, when he
Speaker 2: got to New York, I told I call poister.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, okay, your recommendation. I see. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So whenever, whenever James or Ray angry or come on,
Speaker 2: I can't do the Tonight show that James Francis. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean he was young boy back then, but now
Speaker 2: you know he's one of his own gigs at Blue.
Speaker 1: Note, you know, yeah, that sort of thing. I used
Speaker 1: to sneak him in the brook Brooklyn Bowl. Now, you know, I.
Speaker 2: Need to say, like I went to school with like
Speaker 2: these young lions, like when I was in school, like
Speaker 2: my third day of school, Di Francesco is getting pulled
Speaker 2: out by Miles Davis because like it'll be like, uh,
Speaker 2: who was Miles's keyboard play?
Speaker 1: Was it Kenny Kirkland?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Which year before he passed away, like eighty six doing
Speaker 1: the to To era. I think one of those guys
Speaker 1: wasn't Kenny the definitely one Kenny Cartman.
Speaker 2: Okay, I forget it was but you know, I'll be like, yo,
Speaker 2: where are you going? And he'd be like, now it's
Speaker 2: sucking up again. So Miles is sending for me. I
Speaker 2: mean there's a typical that like Christian, you know, Elis
Speaker 2: Marcellus come and take Christian now school for two weeks,
Speaker 2: you know. So like basically they were they were the
Speaker 2: young lions of my generation. But the thing was is
Speaker 2: that they were following traditional jazz right. And obviously I
Speaker 2: guess my introduction to your world was via Blau. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you know, and hearing Blau break every rule of
Speaker 2: what song structure was, and I'm wondering, well, okay, and
Speaker 2: I asked, I was like, well, who's the who's the
Speaker 2: music version of you? Like who else is breaking the rules?
Speaker 2: And then I met all of you guys in a
Speaker 2: month or so, and I just never seen because I
Speaker 2: knew you guys were seen as jazz musicians. But I
Speaker 2: was always wondering if whether or not you get embraced
Speaker 2: by the jazz community, like would they let you play
Speaker 2: in reindeer games?
Speaker 1: Because you guys were.
Speaker 2: Looking at the rule books and sort of just throwing
Speaker 2: it out the window, like did you have to master it?
Speaker 2: Like did you have to sneak in the house first
Speaker 2: and sort of talk their language and d and then
Speaker 2: hold them hostage once you eat at your power.
Speaker 1: Like about that process, Klow, And you do that to that, well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why.
Speaker 9: I'll tell you why because when I got to the
Speaker 9: New School and ninety seven for college. Yeah, I met
Speaker 9: Balal the first day of school and we were like
Speaker 9: one of eight black people at the school, at the
Speaker 9: New School, at the New School, like in the jazz program. Yeah,
Speaker 9: what a lot of black people. Maybe exaggerating, maybe they
Speaker 9: were at fifteen honestly, Yeah, opposition to everybody was black.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so check it out.
Speaker 9: Though they put out a freshman in the room and
Speaker 9: they call you at random to come on the stage.
Speaker 9: They called me and Balao on stage at random together
Speaker 9: to play a song together.
Speaker 7: Wow, don't tell you what to play? Is just whatever
Speaker 7: y'all know.
Speaker 9: You go there with a bunch of cat They called
Speaker 9: on drum, so and so on, piano, Robert Glass Room, vocal,
Speaker 9: Balo Oliver. We got up to play the song, we
Speaker 9: got off the stage and we looked at each other like, yeah,
Speaker 9: well do they give you a fake book? At least
Speaker 9: they're like what do you no, you just call tunes nope,
Speaker 9: it yeah, or you talk to each other and be
Speaker 9: like you know this now you know this, I don't
Speaker 9: know kind of you know, just like like you do
Speaker 9: at a jazz.
Speaker 1: Club now because you know so and so, I think,
Speaker 1: so you figure it out. But whatever we did, you
Speaker 1: remember what it was.
Speaker 9: I have no idea what it was. But when we
Speaker 9: got off me and we we were, you know, you
Speaker 9: couldn't separate us after that because it was like, you know, he.
Speaker 1: Spoke a different language.
Speaker 9: Immediately, And so we began working on stuff together. And
Speaker 9: one of the president of the school at the time,
Speaker 9: Arnie Lawrence, he passed away. He saw us and was like,
Speaker 9: you two have something. Y'all should go in and work
Speaker 9: on a demo for Balau. And we were like okay.
Speaker 9: So he said, my friend has a studio around the corner,
Speaker 9: y'all can I talked to him already, y'all can go
Speaker 9: over there and kind of come up with some stuff.
Speaker 9: And his boy was Aaron Colemas.
Speaker 8: Aaron spend doctors, fucking spin doctors.
Speaker 1: Men believed this story. When told me, I'm like, who
Speaker 1: were doing this?
Speaker 9: He's and I was like what, Yeah, So we were
Speaker 9: going over there after school every day just writing songs,
Speaker 9: and yeah, a bunch of just jazz music is are
Speaker 9: on the album because we didn't know anybody that played
Speaker 9: anything else.
Speaker 1: We just knew the cats from the school. So that
Speaker 1: was Queenham Sanity the demo.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yes, me Quinny Sanity. Yeah, and y'all came just right.
Speaker 9: You and James came in there and redid it. Yeah,
Speaker 9: the drums.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was essentially when I when I heard that demo, man,
Speaker 2: I you know again, I'm I'm happy to say that
Speaker 2: my my my one record of the six demos I
Speaker 2: ever heard and listened to and became fans of, like
Speaker 2: they all became like something in the world of course,
Speaker 2: you know, Little Brothers, Jill Scott, Slum Village. But hearing
Speaker 2: that beloved demo, I don't know how it came across.
Speaker 1: I don't know who played it for me, whatever, but
Speaker 1: I just I thought this person I remember you being about,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, much much of my detriment.
Speaker 2: If there's ever a recapping of the kind of Black
Speaker 2: Lily Roots jam session story like in Oral History or whatever, uh,
Speaker 2: my enthusiasm for wanting to work with belaw definitely made
Speaker 2: moan to fuckers feel a certain way where, you know,
Speaker 2: because I mean basically every.
Speaker 1: Everyone had a job at this thing.
Speaker 2: And it was more like, okay, I'm the money, you know,
Speaker 2: like so tour money back to the jam session, back
Speaker 2: to the you know.
Speaker 1: And I would make appearances every now and then.
Speaker 2: But it's like after working on you know, the stuff
Speaker 2: at the Electric Lady and then coming back to do
Speaker 2: root stuff, Like I wasn't trying to like also do
Speaker 2: five hours at these jam sessions, but here in below
Speaker 2: sing man and I was just like all right, o come.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, so you know, just ye and those those
Speaker 9: jam sessions so bloud. So we started working on the
Speaker 9: demo whatever, and me and him used to get on
Speaker 9: a bus from school and go down to Philly on
Speaker 9: Monday and Monday nights to the five spot Tuesdayesday, Tuesday
Speaker 9: we should go to the bus and go go stay
Speaker 9: at his mom's house in Germantown. That was my first
Speaker 9: time will ever go to Philly just a week and
Speaker 9: go to those jam sessions. And then y'all started coming
Speaker 9: to doing the ones at Lake Street. Yeah on a
Speaker 9: at uh which theme is the spot?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Wetlands wetlands so seeing y'all play live, but I was
Speaker 2: always trying to get me to understand how to play
Speaker 2: y'all ship, and.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand what the fuck he was talking about.
Speaker 1: He's like, you no like, yo, like play don't play
Speaker 1: it on? Play it off?
Speaker 5: What play like?
Speaker 1: You know how to play, but you don't know how
Speaker 1: to play?
Speaker 7: What you talking to?
Speaker 5: No nigga like like?
Speaker 9: And then I saw y'all live and I saw James
Speaker 9: Poyser and I was like, so that made me. I
Speaker 9: kept going back, and then he would let me sit
Speaker 9: in with you, yo, you will let me sit in
Speaker 9: you know. I was like I was, I was jazz
Speaker 9: bread and I would sit in with y'all. And because
Speaker 9: of sitting in with you with the roots, that's how
Speaker 9: I learned how to play that ship. I didn't I'd
Speaker 9: never heard it. I didn't understand what it was.
Speaker 2: That's so weird to me because in my mind, you
Speaker 2: and all your Hustonians just have another relationship with time,
Speaker 2: with with meter in time that is beyond anything I've
Speaker 2: done or you know, dare I say at Dyla or whatever?
Speaker 2: Like I I just i'd never seen I mean, it's
Speaker 2: like watching the animniacs run in the water tower, like
Speaker 2: you know when you see them running and help the smooth.
Speaker 2: That's a crazy analogy, That's what I mean. Like, but
Speaker 2: what I want to know is how did you force
Speaker 2: the jazz world to your will? Because I don't think
Speaker 2: that's I don't think that's an easy it's not task
Speaker 2: like that's that's what.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 9: I always knew that I had to make sure that
Speaker 9: I could play jazz with the best of them before
Speaker 9: I decided to do anything else, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9: I had to Like when Herbie played with Miles put
Speaker 9: his first few albums out, there was no you couldn't
Speaker 9: question Herb about ship, about can you play that?
Speaker 2: All?
Speaker 6: That?
Speaker 1: That was always so litle five, There's no argument there.
Speaker 9: So when he did Headhunters, you cannot like it if
Speaker 9: you want to, but you can't dispute him as a
Speaker 9: jazz artist, you know what I mean, as a jazz
Speaker 9: piano player, especially being black, they're so quick to want
Speaker 9: to call you a hip hop piano player or R
Speaker 9: and B really quick to not want to give you
Speaker 9: the title of that. So it was in my mind
Speaker 9: I was like, well, no, even when I before I
Speaker 9: got signed, I said, in my mind I knew I was.
Speaker 9: I want to do a few jazz albums first to
Speaker 9: shut these motherfuckers up, who are gonna be talking? And
Speaker 9: then I want to do my other ship.
Speaker 8: You know, like you reminded me of like the like
Speaker 8: Donald Bird. That's how I always kind of saw your
Speaker 8: career is like yeah, Donald Bird. But then you know,
Speaker 8: he did his thing.
Speaker 7: But then when he got with the Moselle Brothers, it
Speaker 7: just became you know something, yeah, for.
Speaker 1: Sure, exactly exactly, and that's my thing. I wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure.
Speaker 9: So then when that happened, my thing was just grabbing
Speaker 9: all the young people because I felt like jazz whether
Speaker 9: for young people anymore.
Speaker 1: And what made what made me get into jazz was Roy.
Speaker 9: Roy came to my Roy Roy came to my school
Speaker 9: and when I was in eleventh grade, I'll never forget it.
Speaker 1: He went there too, right, No, he went to the one,
Speaker 1: and he.
Speaker 9: In Dallas with Erica, He went to the he went
Speaker 9: to the book team Washington, Yeah, Norah Jones and the
Speaker 9: whole thing.
Speaker 1: So that was our rival.
Speaker 9: We rivaled them off time for all state jazz competitions
Speaker 9: and shit. So when Roy came to our school when
Speaker 9: I was in eleventh grade. He was already Warhard Grove
Speaker 9: the album. So he came to the school and he
Speaker 9: had on like overalls and Tim's you know, and his
Speaker 9: band was black.
Speaker 1: I never seen that.
Speaker 9: I have never seen five young black guys that look
Speaker 9: like me, dressed like me, talk like me up there
Speaker 9: playing jazz. That's never You never seen that, because when
Speaker 9: you're in school, the pictures of jazz is what they
Speaker 9: give you, and it's all in black and white, and
Speaker 9: it's everybody has them a suit and it's not you know,
Speaker 9: it's nothing.
Speaker 1: It's nothing that has anything to do with you right now,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 9: So Roy made He completely changed my whole shit. So
Speaker 9: that's literally why I am the way I am now
Speaker 9: because I feel like I'm killing the stereotype, you know
Speaker 9: what I mean. I feel like when people look at me,
Speaker 9: a lot of times they don't know, they don't know
Speaker 9: what the fuck I do, you know what I mean?
Speaker 9: And when I was, you know, selling out the Blue
Speaker 9: Note and the Vanguard and all these places, white people
Speaker 9: will walk by me.
Speaker 1: I would be outside, hang on, my friend. They walk
Speaker 1: by me looking at me like, what are you doing here?
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, actually.
Speaker 7: They're coming out of the right, you know.
Speaker 1: But them people on the bus and a lot of.
Speaker 5: That is like, you know, they don't know.
Speaker 9: They come to New York and get on the bus
Speaker 9: and they take you to where somebody famous is playing,
Speaker 9: you know what I mean. But they look at me
Speaker 9: and my je's and my T shirt and it's like, oh,
Speaker 9: we if I was walking down the street, you think
Speaker 9: I'm a rapper or you think I'm whatever, you know
Speaker 9: what I'm saying. Don't think I'm about to hear and
Speaker 9: play still Up by Starlight or actually play this piano
Speaker 9: the way I do, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 9: that's what I got, literally got that from Roy and
Speaker 9: that's what made kids. He inspired me so much because he.
Speaker 1: Looked like me.
Speaker 9: So I was like, that's what I want to do,
Speaker 9: you know what I mean, I want to inspire the
Speaker 9: young cat. So I think when it came to the
Speaker 9: jazz world, I just ignored them and really went for
Speaker 9: the young people, you know what I mean, but still
Speaker 9: keeping the integrity of jazz, but making it to something
Speaker 9: where they they could identify with, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And that's a wow. The jazz bar couldn't deny it anymore.
Speaker 8: I think you have to do that though, because I think,
Speaker 8: you know, even like in all forms of music, you
Speaker 8: have to kind of, if not necessarily, appeal to the
Speaker 8: young people. You at least have to know how to
Speaker 8: communicate with them, because they're the ones that's coming next.
Speaker 8: So if you want your thing to live on, you
Speaker 8: gotta get the youngins so they can be it on,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Rapper in that conversation to like in a way where
Speaker 4: like his project, I was going to ask, kind of know.
Speaker 2: I was going to ask, there was the jazz police
Speaker 2: of likeut when Marcella's all those cats, is there such
Speaker 2: thing as the jazz police, like.
Speaker 5: The people.
Speaker 3: Himself that's okay?
Speaker 7: Agent to grand jazz police?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 5: Oh y'all didn't see it? Y'all didn't y'all didn't see it.
Speaker 9: Right years ago, Branford turncoat on you, nigga, hold on, Branford,
Speaker 9: put put me out. Look, this happened maybe two years
Speaker 9: two years ago, maybe three years ago. Two years ago
Speaker 9: he did a uh, he did an interview for one
Speaker 9: of them jazz magazine, maybe down Beat or something like that,
Speaker 9: and in the middle of the interview. They were like, so, Branford,
Speaker 9: what do you think about what people like Robert Glasper
Speaker 9: and Camassie Washington are doing? You know you did, but
Speaker 9: shot lafunk, what do you think about Robert Glasper's doing?
Speaker 9: He said, well, you know, Jack Camosi, he's not a
Speaker 9: jazz he's not a jazz saxophone player.
Speaker 1: Just do him all the way over.
Speaker 9: Then he said, and Robert, I mean, I'm glad he's
Speaker 9: doing what he's doing because he's he has delimited jazz
Speaker 9: vocabulary also, And then you ask him, he'll tell you
Speaker 9: the same thing.
Speaker 1: Those were literally his words, Si, Robert.
Speaker 2: Do you have a.
Speaker 1: Like what? Who?
Speaker 3: Heartbroken?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? What are you talking about?
Speaker 7: Do you not know who you are?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 8: So for the listener, if you have a limited jazz vocabulary,
Speaker 8: who hasn't unlimited?
Speaker 1: Who is that? Yeah?
Speaker 9: That was like, come on, bro, like that now you're
Speaker 9: now that was that was just that's reckless, that's reckless,
Speaker 9: that's like you know.
Speaker 1: He They didn't even ask him that. That wasn't even
Speaker 1: the question. He didn't ask do you think they're jazz musicians.
Speaker 9: Or do you think what they're doing in jazz? They said,
Speaker 9: you did bust shot Lafunk. So they were literally speaking
Speaker 9: to crossing over and he took that time, took that
Speaker 9: little platform to put us down instead of being like,
Speaker 9: oh well.
Speaker 1: Ship Robert Glass and Black Radio that's doing. That's great.
Speaker 1: I'm happy, but something used that.
Speaker 9: Don't use that platform to shoot down the two top
Speaker 9: black instrumental jazz.
Speaker 1: Musicians that, you know what I mean, why would you
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 3: Come on, brocom, what.
Speaker 2: Do you think is required? I mean, you know every
Speaker 2: genre has there and they were disrespecting Branford. You know,
Speaker 2: just there's always the grumpy will go out Branford.
Speaker 1: I know he did that.
Speaker 7: I love him, y'all. Have you have you seen him?
Speaker 7: Y'all ran into each other?
Speaker 9: No, but before he said that, I ran into him
Speaker 9: at the club. But we had dreams he was playing.
Speaker 9: I went to see him play. I had had a
Speaker 9: night off in Seattle.
Speaker 1: He was playing.
Speaker 9: Me and Chris and the few other people went down
Speaker 9: there hung out. I'll always shown Brandford love. He's always
Speaker 9: actually shown him. We've been cool every time I see him.
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I just felt like, why not he was gonna
Speaker 1: say that?
Speaker 7: You could have said that to my face.
Speaker 9: You could have been said that to my face, bro,
Speaker 9: no matter. In fact, I saw him at International Jazz Day.
Speaker 9: I saw my International Jazz Day in Russia maybe two
Speaker 9: years ago something and that oh you know what, and
Speaker 9: we had a little oh you know figure.
Speaker 5: It's all coming.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 9: You know that is like they bring in a bunch
Speaker 9: of jazz musicians and and and then they put it.
Speaker 9: They put you in a different country every year and
Speaker 9: to promote jazz, you know, and you do a concert
Speaker 9: together and they break you up a little groups and
Speaker 9: you do like one song. So we did the Intertional
Speaker 9: Jazz Day thing and me and Brandford backstage is somebody
Speaker 9: came up and was like, so.
Speaker 1: What do y'all think? What makes jazz jazz?
Speaker 9: And we're talking about it, you know, and Brandford said,
Speaker 9: the space between the quarter notes.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 9: I was like, before it sounds, what do you mean
Speaker 9: the space between the like literally the space between the
Speaker 9: quarter notes, like the space between them.
Speaker 5: So I was like, the space between the court.
Speaker 9: So literally it's a mathematical thing like if you do
Speaker 9: this space this space recording does That's just we kind
Speaker 9: of got into a think about it because the answer
Speaker 9: he gave was like, come on, bro, like it sounds
Speaker 9: it sounded like witting.
Speaker 1: I mean, no one has the true aunt like the no,
Speaker 1: we don't.
Speaker 2: But there's nerds like me that wanted a scientific definition,
Speaker 2: and there's creatives like you that you know that will
Speaker 2: never have the right answer or whatever. Like I don't
Speaker 2: think any creative truly knows what the definition of what
Speaker 2: makes their art form tick, you know.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 9: But then but we're having to just a discussion and
Speaker 9: I'm like, yo, we start talking about tunes. I said,
Speaker 9: so because this is not swing, we're talking about talk
Speaker 9: about rye symbol everything. And it was like, so you're
Speaker 9: you're you're now defining a whole genre by a rhythm.
Speaker 9: So because it doesn't ting today and ten to day,
Speaker 9: it's not jazz. So what's red clay?
Speaker 1: And he was like, not jazz? Right, I said, so
Speaker 1: red clay is not nigga. So this is this is
Speaker 1: trap versus real hip hop.
Speaker 7: I get this, this is versus long argument.
Speaker 5: I get it.
Speaker 9: I get it for somebody, But for somebody who made
Speaker 9: by some of the funk, I just suspected something different.
Speaker 1: I expect a different answer. I just expect a different answer.
Speaker 7: But that was, but again that was twenty six years ago.
Speaker 1: That was.
Speaker 9: And look, even though Winton went and innovated the music
Speaker 9: and then stopped, he did Black Codes and then stopped.
Speaker 9: Black Hold is such an innovative record, you know, Black
Speaker 9: Codes from the Underground, Black Codes from the Underground.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 9: It's like absolutely fucking incredible. You know, one of my
Speaker 9: favorite records of absolutely absolutely you know.
Speaker 5: Uh went and called me go.
Speaker 1: Ahead, oh wait, go ahead, go back to that because
Speaker 1: he calls you remember the whole nother ram.
Speaker 9: I don't know if you want to step into it,
Speaker 9: because we want to know because it was because of
Speaker 9: the Lord Hill stuff.
Speaker 7: Go in, come on, come on with the smoke.
Speaker 1: No went and called me. I was in Japan and
Speaker 1: never forget it.
Speaker 5: He called.
Speaker 9: He texted me and was like, yo, is this Robert Glaswar.
Speaker 9: I was like, yeah, who's this? He was like this
Speaker 9: went and I was like, oh, Ship, what's up?
Speaker 5: How you doing?
Speaker 1: Man? It's like, hey man, you know, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to call and tell you, you know, let this Laura
Speaker 1: Hill shit go. And I was like that's his first
Speaker 1: words to you. Ever, yes, you ain't going next ever
Speaker 1: on the phone. We don't talk on the phone. I
Speaker 1: don't talk to me on the phone.
Speaker 8: You know me Japan, this ship is costing me extra
Speaker 8: money facing my dad and talk to me for this ship.
Speaker 1: He's like, let this Laura Hill shit go. First of all,
Speaker 1: I never drug it on.
Speaker 9: I said I did that ready interview and I never
Speaker 9: posted about it. I never said anything about it ever
Speaker 9: again online.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: I did that radio interview posted and I didn't put
Speaker 9: sh it on my ig. I didn't even put that
Speaker 9: radio ine on my face.
Speaker 1: But nothing. So he hit me with that let this go.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I'm not doing anything, but
Speaker 1: you know, the truth is the truth. I don't really
Speaker 1: know what you want me to do.
Speaker 9: He was just like, man, you know she's got all
Speaker 9: these followers and stuff, and you know you're not gonna
Speaker 9: win that battle.
Speaker 5: And I just think it's best if you just battle.
Speaker 7: I'm not battling.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 2: Wait, you're missing the most important part. When Marcellus knows.
Speaker 3: Who Lauren Hill is what, Yeah, he hairs is a
Speaker 3: whole other level too.
Speaker 8: You say seven millionaires niggas know.
Speaker 2: Who to definitely dude due First of all, yeah, this lord,
Speaker 2: I never thought when left this jazz bubble.
Speaker 5: I know, I know, but that was things to bring up.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's what he texted me about our first
Speaker 1: text and only text to this day.
Speaker 3: What about iraginations on you know.
Speaker 1: This movie?
Speaker 9: I told him, I said, but every time I saw him,
Speaker 9: every time I see him in person, and honestly, when
Speaker 9: I go see him play, he invites me up to play.
Speaker 9: He calls me up on stage and ship, you know
Speaker 9: what I mean. So I don't have a beef for
Speaker 9: no real beef and win you know, some of the
Speaker 9: things he says. It's like, come on, bro, you know,
Speaker 9: but he's fine.
Speaker 1: It's fine.
Speaker 9: And he's never thrown me under the bus in some interview,
Speaker 9: you know, or tried to do anything malicious, but you know,
Speaker 9: so we were texted about that and then finally I
Speaker 9: was like, yo, every time I see him, I say,
Speaker 9: I'm gona get you on some hip hop ship. He
Speaker 9: was like, oh, bro, you know, I'm gonna just deal
Speaker 9: with the swing. I ain't down with the bitches and
Speaker 9: the niggas.
Speaker 5: And I was like, I said that.
Speaker 9: I said, Bro, all hip hop isn't like that. That's
Speaker 9: one little second. Different styles of jazz. That's different and
Speaker 9: I say, if you ever checked out anything I've done,
Speaker 9: you don't hear that?
Speaker 5: He was like, you know, well I don't know.
Speaker 9: Well, well we'll see. But he always says that every
Speaker 9: time I see him the great It's like, come on, bro,
Speaker 9: that's not Yeah, it's so.
Speaker 3: Crazy when at one point you was a young dude
Speaker 3: like and Jack. Jazz beaks are so funny to me.
Speaker 3: They've been happening for like just the beginning.
Speaker 7: It's just have you have you? And have you and
Speaker 7: Lauren ever talked after that? Since posting.
Speaker 1: Radio? You know.
Speaker 5: Racket, Well you do it? Look but look hold on
Speaker 5: and let me on.
Speaker 1: That song so I can also oul branch that moment
Speaker 1: to too.
Speaker 3: Yeah you got you got an you.
Speaker 5: Help feed the fire.
Speaker 2: Got Robert Glass, but Patty Beef, Patty chef, you changed
Speaker 2: the Twitter your Twitter handle to Robert Glass Beef Patty schem.
Speaker 3: No healing, it's no healing, It's no man.
Speaker 1: The Shockers with Marcel Lauren Hill. Lauren Hill known social
Speaker 1: media Twitter. This is a great day. Look I am
Speaker 1: saw her at at what is the north Sea Jazz Festival?
Speaker 7: Just yeah right.
Speaker 9: I literally was sitting outside and a bustuf and it
Speaker 9: was her tour of us, and all the cats came
Speaker 9: off like yo, rah blah blah blah. They were like, well,
Speaker 9: Lauren just got off at the other place. I was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 9: that would have been amazing if I'm sorry, I haven't
Speaker 9: seen them since then. But my thing is my thing
Speaker 9: is that you saw her statement she wrote after that, right.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 7: Was so many words.
Speaker 2: It was where emojis in it, And I was like,
Speaker 2: emojis are shot and honestly, and I didn't know it
Speaker 2: was the twenty when I did that interview.
Speaker 9: I didn't know what the twentieth anniversary of fucking that
Speaker 9: the album The Miseducation. Yes, I mean where the guy
Speaker 9: and I've never talked that. My Lauren Hill situation happened
Speaker 9: in two thousand and seven. We did this interview in
Speaker 9: what two thousand and six seven. Yeah, I've never said
Speaker 9: it out loud. On the interview, they asked me, what's
Speaker 9: the worst musical experience you've ever had? And that is
Speaker 9: the first, and that's the first one that ever comes
Speaker 9: to mind, is working with Lauren.
Speaker 5: It was terrible.
Speaker 3: Poison to the truth, the poison text you.
Speaker 9: A lot of people text me, yeah, a lot of
Speaker 9: people text me like thank you, you know, thank you ship.
Speaker 3: We can't.
Speaker 2: I can't say that ship, but thank you. A lot
Speaker 2: of cats it was like good looks you know some
Speaker 2: of them cats you can't.
Speaker 1: They can't. You know, I can say that ship.
Speaker 9: I'm good fuck you know, but you know, and the
Speaker 9: other cats that she uses in that way don't have
Speaker 9: the platform and say ship, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So I felt like or the power to station. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't me purposely coming at her.
Speaker 5: It was just that's what it was.
Speaker 1: And everything was truth, everything was fat, and everything's still happening.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So it's like you a whole gift to jazz in
Speaker 3: so many ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well look I'm here. I'm serious.
Speaker 5: I thought about this the other day. I was like,
Speaker 5: wouldn't it be.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the government.
Speaker 9: I thought about that though, would if would if we
Speaker 9: got her on Black Radio three.
Speaker 2: Look man, it's twenty twenty and we're running out of
Speaker 2: space on our Bengo cards.
Speaker 5: You produced it.
Speaker 1: What happened? You produced it? Listen? That would be crazy, bro,
Speaker 1: it was y'all.
Speaker 3: Come up with it, your idea.
Speaker 1: I'm down for it, yo.
Speaker 5: In a silly way, in a silly, weird way.
Speaker 2: I feel like there's a possibility it could possibly happen.
Speaker 9: I think it'd be dope. So I think it happen
Speaker 9: because as an artist, I have nothing against her. She's
Speaker 9: fucking looking credible.
Speaker 3: You might have to extend your due date, but I
Speaker 3: think it could happen.
Speaker 9: One it'll be, Yeah, it'll definitely. It probably won't come
Speaker 9: out to a Black Radio.
Speaker 2: Nineteen but no, it'll be back to the theme of
Speaker 2: the show, and I'll be optimism.
Speaker 3: You're renewed optimism. No, it's gonna get done. Noh, mirror,
Speaker 3: it's gonna get done.
Speaker 2: Listen as as a person that believes in manifesting positive
Speaker 2: energy and.
Speaker 1: Whatnot. Yes, we're gonna make it happen.
Speaker 2: I would love it, I will say, Lauren Hill, we
Speaker 2: are officially putting out the Olive Branch.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the better the world was better with our
Speaker 2: artistic contributions. It's needed in the world right now.
Speaker 5: So actually really is really is all right?
Speaker 7: So questions while we on optimism the Lauren jail. Yeah, oh,
Speaker 7: I mean, if I'm still aloud, I got sixteen for you.
Speaker 8: Okay, optimistic as question, Brandy, and I want to ask
Speaker 8: you specifically, what is it like tracking her in the studio,
Speaker 8: tracking her vocals?
Speaker 1: Probably Brandy might be the illest tracker I've ever seen.
Speaker 9: It's incredible, bro, I've never seen nobody phase himself out.
Speaker 7: I was gonna ask you about that. I saw another interview.
Speaker 9: Three times in one in in the in the middle
Speaker 9: of doing Optimistic, she phased herself out three times.
Speaker 1: That's how on top of her vocal she is with.
Speaker 9: That's how her vocal she is when she stacks her
Speaker 9: ship is so exactly alike that she fakes the computer
Speaker 9: out and it makes you think you're doing the same
Speaker 9: the track.
Speaker 5: Again or some ship.
Speaker 1: You're not. You know what I mean?
Speaker 9: Because most people, when you read you, when you sing
Speaker 9: something else and you sing it again, sing it again,
Speaker 9: let's stack it, there's always something different.
Speaker 7: It's always an imperfection.
Speaker 9: Something and something. She's so dead on that ship. Phased
Speaker 9: the fuck out three times from the.
Speaker 2: Bread, from the breathing, from when she cut it off
Speaker 2: where the vi bride will stop, like everything is incredible,
Speaker 2: and she.
Speaker 9: Don't leave the booth to the fucking shit's done. It
Speaker 9: ain't like she come out and listen and vibe. She's like, no,
Speaker 9: and she won't stop with the ideas.
Speaker 1: You have to stop her. No Brandy, no more vocal,
Speaker 1: no more stats, no harmony. Yeah, and she wants to
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 9: She's so enthusiastic about getting it right and just wanting
Speaker 9: to try more and more ideas. She's not a lazy
Speaker 9: singer at all, you know what I mean. Like, it's
Speaker 9: incredible work with her. Man, she has to be one
Speaker 9: of the nicest too, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 9: even when I did when she was on my Black
Speaker 9: Radio album before that, she paid for the studio time
Speaker 9: because she was late the other time or something like that.
Speaker 1: She couldn't make it, and she was like, yo, she
Speaker 1: paid for the studio time.
Speaker 9: And she you know what I mean, I didn't even
Speaker 9: know where back then. You know, she's just this is
Speaker 9: such a nice, really really nice person.
Speaker 8: Black Radio on Black Radio two, Man, you had a
Speaker 8: record it was, It was a lot of records on
Speaker 8: the album.
Speaker 7: I love. I really love the Emily Son sending joint that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love.
Speaker 7: That's just a great song, just the lyrics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great, dude. She wrote that ship in twenty minutes.
Speaker 7: Are you serious?
Speaker 1: That song? That song originally Mary J.
Speaker 5: Blog was supposed to sing it, and whoa.
Speaker 9: I had lyrics and everything already done, but getting with
Speaker 9: Mary just always kept, you know, we couldn't make it happen.
Speaker 9: So I had the lyrics in the song. I even
Speaker 9: had the song sung by somebody else to you know.
Speaker 9: Emily was in town and she came by the studio
Speaker 9: and I played her the song and.
Speaker 5: She was like, I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it. She's like, do you mind if I
Speaker 1: changed the lyrics.
Speaker 5: I was like, no, do what you feel.
Speaker 9: She got a pin and pad out, walked around, wrote
Speaker 9: that joint like twenty minutes, bro wow literally and put
Speaker 9: that ship down the record town for the Great Great
Speaker 9: Gatsby premiere Some ship.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, the record you did with the Nora record
Speaker 7: that Mossino.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that joint.
Speaker 7: Man, how did y'a you and Mussina like mosing the
Speaker 7: shot like family.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and y'all's cover of God Rest You Married Gentlemen.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I need you to send me that.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. For years I kept doing I would do that
Speaker 1: with different artists every year I was.
Speaker 9: I would just pick an artist, hit them up, like, yeah,
Speaker 9: you want to do a Christmas song together, you know,
Speaker 9: and then I'll send them the music and then put
Speaker 9: some sin on it and we put it out. I
Speaker 9: did it with Dubie Power, I did it with Kim Bare,
Speaker 9: did her a few different people. Just throw it out,
Speaker 9: throw it out there for you know, for fun. But
Speaker 9: that joint, the Nora Jones joint. So me and Nora
Speaker 9: went to jazz camp together in high school in eleventh grade.
Speaker 9: Matter of fact, I'm here, you have something to do
Speaker 9: with this too.
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm a connector.
Speaker 5: You're a connector.
Speaker 1: You don't even know it.
Speaker 9: So, uh, Me and Nora went to high school to
Speaker 9: jazz camp together in eleventh grade.
Speaker 1: So that's where I knew her from then.
Speaker 9: When I got to New York, I saw her my
Speaker 9: freshman year at she was at college in the practice
Speaker 9: room at my college at the piano.
Speaker 1: I looked in him there. I was like, Norah and
Speaker 1: I walked in there.
Speaker 5: I was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 9: She's like She's like, oh, I'm working on the demo.
Speaker 9: I was like, oh dope. Next time I saw her
Speaker 9: was on TV when of all the damn Grammys. After that,
Speaker 9: After that, I sat in with the roots at Radio City.
Speaker 9: Remember you did them two nights at Radio City.
Speaker 1: Oh crap, I forgot, dude.
Speaker 9: That was one of the when people ask me some
Speaker 9: of my top moments being on stage of Crazy Ship.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 1: We did remember when.
Speaker 5: Came Yeah, ok.
Speaker 8: J.
Speaker 5: He showed up. He didn't know that he.
Speaker 1: Could play Radio City musical.
Speaker 9: Dude, never forget that ship where yeah and they got
Speaker 9: and and I never forget in the in the in theres,
Speaker 9: you were like jay Z's here.
Speaker 1: And we did up.
Speaker 5: We did a boom boom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we started playing.
Speaker 9: He walked out and had this back to the audience
Speaker 9: to the hoodie young and the lights is off. We
Speaker 9: started playing that on line and no one knew he
Speaker 9: was coming. When we started playing that baseline the lights flash,
Speaker 9: he pulled his hoodie up like this still with his
Speaker 9: back to the audience.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 9: Uh dude, when they when he turned to do the
Speaker 9: amount of like it was so crazy, bro, Like, I'll
Speaker 9: never forget that moment. I'll never forget that moment. And
Speaker 9: that's where I met Dave too. That's where I met
Speaker 9: Chapelle too. I gave him piano. Listen backstage at that show.
Speaker 2: Oh so you're the one that taught him After midnight,
Speaker 2: he's still still.
Speaker 1: Playing that ship he played.
Speaker 2: He did a solo piano at my Blue Note residency
Speaker 2: last October.
Speaker 9: He went on stage by himself and played ro Midnight
Speaker 9: on my piano by himself, and thank you and walked off.
Speaker 7: Playing that flight Twitter. He played that party like he's.
Speaker 9: But anyway, at that show, a regularly show after it,
Speaker 9: the after party thing upstairs or something like that.
Speaker 2: And I'm sitting on I'm sitting next to you talking
Speaker 2: or next to somebody next to you.
Speaker 9: Let me be one of two people over for you,
Speaker 9: and I reached for some ice and Nora was on
Speaker 9: the other side of you, and she reached for some ice.
Speaker 1: And that's what we were, like, Oh, what's up?
Speaker 9: And then we got these other We changed numbers and
Speaker 9: that's how we just kept kept in connection, you know,
Speaker 9: from that, you know, but she killed that joint.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 5: I love Nora.
Speaker 1: I love hearing Nora in other situations. Her voice is
Speaker 1: so dope, you know.
Speaker 7: So I really love that song.
Speaker 9: It's really dobe Let it ride, Yeah, and was sick.
Speaker 9: She didn't want to write it. I sent it to
Speaker 9: Messina and I said, and I didn't know who was
Speaker 9: going to sing it yet. I just I wrote the song,
Speaker 9: and I was like, I need some lyrics and I
Speaker 9: said him, hey, write something to this and I need
Speaker 9: to get it done by this week. I don't know
Speaker 9: who going to sing it, but write it. And she
Speaker 9: was like, I'm really sick. I don't feel I said,
Speaker 9: write the damn song. Writ song okay, and wrote that
Speaker 9: joint and send it to me the next day.
Speaker 1: And who have you yet to? Uh?
Speaker 2: I guess for Phil bucket list wise? I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: sure there's everybody, but what close calls have you had
Speaker 2: with your projects that you didn't get a chance to
Speaker 2: work with yet? Don't say her name. As I was
Speaker 2: asking this question, I'm like, oh god, no, do you
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna say, Oh you don't remember the Oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah mail the roof?
Speaker 3: That so hard? What she does?
Speaker 5: A man call her up?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Before Solane came through like a champ, and.
Speaker 7: So she was gonna do that the little Dragon cover.
Speaker 3: Yes, Wow, what's she doing with the doing?
Speaker 1: What we trying to make it? Yeah? Yeah, it didn't
Speaker 1: really work out, so yeah, who who else?
Speaker 4: From?
Speaker 5: Look?
Speaker 1: I have a song in my computer. I did the
Speaker 1: song with the Baker.
Speaker 2: Was yo?
Speaker 7: Was it for the Blue Note album? That like never yes,
Speaker 7: because she.
Speaker 8: Yeah, she did a cover of Lately by tyree which
Speaker 8: on paper sounds insane.
Speaker 7: Wait what, bro, you never heard.
Speaker 8: Anita Baker covered Lately by Tyresee And it is fucking amazing.
Speaker 7: Niggas. She bodied that ship.
Speaker 8: Oh, it's like it's the only it's like one of
Speaker 8: her only so if it's still on because you know,
Speaker 8: not none of her shit on streaming. It's like one
Speaker 8: of the only joints of hers that's like on streaming
Speaker 8: services that came out, that song came out, that song
Speaker 8: came out, that came out. Oh my gosh, she bodied
Speaker 8: that ship. Bro, I like, I was like lately she
Speaker 8: covered Lately?
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I was.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 9: It happened because we were both on Blueou at the
Speaker 9: same time and Don was was trying to hook us up,
Speaker 9: like he also hooked me up with Shaka Khan, and
Speaker 9: I was, I produced a half a record on I
Speaker 9: have four songs on Shaka, We're gonna do a whole
Speaker 9: word went in to do a whole album because he
Speaker 9: gave her Black Radio. It was like, just check this
Speaker 9: guy out to do your album. Because she was going
Speaker 9: to do a record with Blue Note. So she's like,
Speaker 9: oh my God, I love it. I met up with
Speaker 9: her Boom boom. We went and did a week in La,
Speaker 9: did like four or five songs, and then her deal
Speaker 9: with Blue Note with some went left. So I got
Speaker 9: five songs of Shaka in my computer that I don't
Speaker 9: know I was ever gonna come out. But with Anita,
Speaker 9: she was working finishing that album. She was finishing it up,
Speaker 9: and I tweeted I was landing in La. I'll never
Speaker 9: forget it. I tweeted, I'm in La. Blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 9: She tweeted me, Oh, come by the studio.
Speaker 5: I was like, what they're like, I neither.
Speaker 7: She was like, yeah, come by the.
Speaker 9: Studio and listen to some of the stuff I've been doing.
Speaker 9: Her son is a DJ. He goes to he at
Speaker 9: the time. He's like going to Berkeley. He's a big
Speaker 9: fan of mine. So you know that helps, you know,
Speaker 9: you know what I mean. So I went by the studio.
Speaker 9: She played me the album and she was like, what
Speaker 9: do you think? And I even fixed some stuff for
Speaker 9: keyboard parts and some stuff. She's like, you know, did
Speaker 9: some things on there. She was like, Man, if I
Speaker 9: would have known you were coming to town, I would
Speaker 9: have did a song with you. I said, don't play.
Speaker 9: I said, I write a.
Speaker 7: Song right now, said right now, right now.
Speaker 1: She was like, I mean, but I got to turn
Speaker 1: in this album in two days.
Speaker 5: I was like, I need it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, bro, Look first of all, when I walked to
Speaker 9: the studio, she's making ribs. Let's just talk about this
Speaker 9: for a second. Black the blackness of us. The vocal
Speaker 9: booth was next to the kitchen. It's the same studio,
Speaker 9: same studio, same studio. She did Angel in same studio, all.
Speaker 1: Of the same one. Because he's on Glenn Record, using
Speaker 1: that record.
Speaker 9: That's that's what that's well back then when I did
Speaker 9: that song. That was three years ago when I did
Speaker 9: that song. When I did that, yes, so she had an.
Speaker 1: Oven mess and everything. You hungry. I'm making some ribs.
Speaker 5: I'm like, what.
Speaker 9: Ribs doesn't get you better? Anita Baker offered me ribs
Speaker 9: in the studio she did Angel. I'm good so anyway, uh,
Speaker 9: but she said that. I was like, Anita, I'm gonna
Speaker 9: write something for you right now. I literally went to
Speaker 9: the piano. I swear the guy I wrote some shit
Speaker 9: and like I live and breathe me. The Baker like
Speaker 9: giving you the best that I got is that's one
Speaker 9: reason between giving you the best that I got.
Speaker 1: Between that my mom.
Speaker 7: Look, I mean it was like thriller.
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, you and the fans always want
Speaker 2: to outdo someone. Let you know that compositions is your record.
Speaker 7: That's the one man ship. That composition was a motherfucker.
Speaker 9: Look between that and Luther Van Draws albums. Matt Adeley Jr. Yes,
Speaker 9: those were those sounds. Maybe want to play piano period, like,
Speaker 9: because that's all we heard. I heard that in the
Speaker 9: house a lot. Anyway, I wrote the song like ten minutes.
Speaker 9: I went over Andre Harris's crib. I said, Yo, I
Speaker 9: need you to put some ship on here.
Speaker 1: As for thee.
Speaker 5: The baker was like.
Speaker 1: Cool, nigga, put drums, bass, guitar, did that shit.
Speaker 9: About an hour. We called sir over. Sir came over
Speaker 9: to the crib and did his own ship and wrote.
Speaker 1: The song say it down. We email her the song
Speaker 1: that night.
Speaker 9: She learned it that night, came to the studio, sang
Speaker 9: it down in one take, wow, and then said then
Speaker 9: said this to me.
Speaker 1: She said, only in my life three times has a
Speaker 1: song fit me like a tour address. This is the third.
Speaker 1: I didn't know where.
Speaker 5: I didn't know what that shi it was.
Speaker 1: That is.
Speaker 7: All right?
Speaker 1: Represent yeah, any she was like, I don't know what.
Speaker 5: I was like so so.
Speaker 9: Brother exactly that shoe pop. No, that subtle, but yeah
Speaker 9: she said that. She was like there was a thing
Speaker 9: that George Duke did for her, some kind of arrangement
Speaker 9: of something. And then I forget the other song. But
Speaker 9: she was like, this is the third. She literally sung
Speaker 9: it down on one take.
Speaker 2: But what.
Speaker 1: Where is it now?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Where in my computer?
Speaker 3: In that computer is talking to us on my computer
Speaker 3: talking to.
Speaker 7: Is in that one that computer and the computer with
Speaker 7: email on it, the way.
Speaker 5: That computer with a drum bow.
Speaker 1: Triangles triangle every six hours with my air drop.
Speaker 9: Okay, my dream I wanted. I'm going to hit her
Speaker 9: up because I wanted to. I want to see if
Speaker 9: I could use it for Black Radio three. That's what
Speaker 9: I Yeah, yeah, I want to do it so bad.
Speaker 9: That's my hopes for George.
Speaker 7: You mentioned George, do did you if you and him
Speaker 7: before he died? Did y'all have a hook up.
Speaker 9: Or opened up for George? For like nine shows in Europe?
Speaker 9: He never remembered me after any of the shows. You know,
Speaker 9: people like that, they up to bed George.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 5: And this was back in like you I don't know, oh.
Speaker 1: Eight oh nine.
Speaker 5: You know, I was over like three years.
Speaker 9: So you know, I wouldn't ship really, you know, so
Speaker 9: I'm not tripping because he's George dude, you know what
Speaker 9: I mean. But after each show in different cities, I'd
Speaker 9: be like, hey, hey, misster, do.
Speaker 1: How you doing.
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 5: He'd be like, hey, what that face?
Speaker 1: And I'd be like, I'm a rob.
Speaker 9: I played key keys early earlier before you start every
Speaker 9: and every every night, every night. But you know he
Speaker 9: ain't coming to the sound, you know, to the the
Speaker 9: shows before him, so you know. But then we finally
Speaker 9: got to connect in a real way at International Jazz Day,
Speaker 9: not that one I talked about, but before and it
Speaker 9: was in Turkey and me and him and Herbie like
Speaker 9: got a chance to hang out and sit down and
Speaker 9: talk and you know what I mean, chop it up
Speaker 9: in that and that's in that situation passed. He literally passed.
Speaker 9: I'm not the peer of them, but he literally passed
Speaker 9: a few musts. You know, play keys, henew play keys
Speaker 9: as far as I got, but there he passed a few,
Speaker 9: a few days, a few a few months later after that?
Speaker 1: All right, so who who is the the hero figure that?
Speaker 1: All right? There you go, are you gonna say?
Speaker 7: Herby comes Tobod Herbie?
Speaker 3: He just about to ask you what is it like?
Speaker 3: Because I mean the last show I went to with yours,
Speaker 3: you did this whole thing.
Speaker 4: He was like, oh, I'm about to go take a
Speaker 4: bathroom break, and he was I'm half somebody feeling for
Speaker 4: me real quick, and it was Herbie.
Speaker 3: Headcock And I'm like, what the like, what does that
Speaker 3: feel like to be you? And that relationship with that man?
Speaker 9: Man, he's so awesome and he loves to he loves
Speaker 9: to be around because he you know, you got that
Speaker 9: from Miles I think, you know, just like you know,
Speaker 9: wanting to soak up the younger energy and just be around.
Speaker 1: On that that was him, That was always him. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my dude, man, Like I love Herbie.
Speaker 9: He's so open and cool and he just pulls up
Speaker 9: like he always pulls up, pulls up to the shows,
Speaker 9: pulls up.
Speaker 5: To my last record.
Speaker 9: He's on my last record, fuck your Feelings because I
Speaker 9: he just heard I was in the studio and just.
Speaker 5: Pull it up.
Speaker 9: I was like, oh ship, you know, okay, cool And
Speaker 9: he pulled up to fucking Hinson and I was like, yo,
Speaker 9: but you here, you wanna no, no, no, no, you know,
Speaker 9: just speaking to your point. Me and Herbie talked maybe
Speaker 9: two three weeks ago. He said, this is the longest
Speaker 9: time he's ever gone without touching his piano. Oh wow,
Speaker 9: he said. He's in the same funk. He was like, man,
Speaker 9: I'm not even that. I don't feel like you know,
Speaker 9: He's like, I've never gone seven months or wherever long
Speaker 9: it's been when I'm touching my piano.
Speaker 5: He's like, it's just sitting there. He's like, He's just
Speaker 5: it's just sitting there.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So I was like, you gotta take a break, you
Speaker 2: gotta you gotta take a break and then come back
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 1: I was gonna to ask.
Speaker 2: I think it's different for keyboard players now because of
Speaker 2: the the advanced way that technology moves in your world,
Speaker 2: Whereas at least with me personally, like I'm not too
Speaker 2: interested in you know, like new drums, and you know,
Speaker 2: the company always be like, you know, these are special
Speaker 2: trees that we used in Japan to make it, you know, And.
Speaker 1: I always tell them like, give me this trashy he
Speaker 1: the high school set. It's all in your touch anyway.
Speaker 1: It's all your touch anyway. Right.
Speaker 2: So as far as being a are you a gear
Speaker 2: head or are you just using the same.
Speaker 9: I am not, you know what, because when people were
Speaker 9: doing gear ship, I was just practicing on being really
Speaker 9: good at the piano.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: I've never because my whole thing was always acoustic piano.
Speaker 9: So that's been my thing for such a long time.
Speaker 9: Even when I got signed a Blue Note piano trio,
Speaker 9: shit acoustic piano.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even keyboards. Yeah, I wasn't even using keyboards
Speaker 1: for a while.
Speaker 9: They're putting piano acoustic pianos and clubs for me because
Speaker 9: I didn't want to play jazz clubs anymore. I want
Speaker 9: to play cool shit hip hop venues and shit like that.
Speaker 9: And I was trying to get grand pianos in there.
Speaker 9: So Stein would put pianos in there for me and Ship,
Speaker 9: but a lot of times that sound would be fucked up.
Speaker 9: It wouldn't sound good, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 9: so I like, okay, let me get the key let
Speaker 9: me do the keyboard thing. But I've never really been
Speaker 9: a gearhead at all. People think I am for some reason,
Speaker 9: but to.
Speaker 7: Me it always seemed like I think that's the gearhead thing.
Speaker 8: Is more so for people who think of themselves as
Speaker 8: producers first or right, you always kind of seem like
Speaker 8: a player, you know, primarily.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I know we need strings. I know a string
Speaker 9: player that can do that, like we did when we
Speaker 9: fucking did the twice. You know, A mir wasn't like, YO,
Speaker 9: pull up some strings sounds he called some cellos and violins,
Speaker 9: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We know those guys. We don't need the patch.
Speaker 5: I know them.
Speaker 9: I'm always that to you know, and all the patches
Speaker 9: that're like, but it sounds real. This one sounds realer
Speaker 9: than that one. I'm like, I know real people people,
Speaker 9: but I would imagine.
Speaker 3: Now, keep a musician's employed. That's dope.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And obviously obviously you got to tap into it
Speaker 9: a little bit, because you can't just get musicians like
Speaker 9: this anymore, especially now. So that's why now I've been
Speaker 9: even tappingto it, tapping into just sounds and getting all
Speaker 9: the plug ins and stuff like that, even even if
Speaker 9: it's for demo demo's sake, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9: I'll do stuff like that, but I'm just such a
Speaker 9: live person.
Speaker 1: That's just my thing, you know. I would imagine, like
Speaker 1: you know, I'll say, like maybe what Steve.
Speaker 2: Like once every four months, the rolling guy comes in
Speaker 2: with new toys and whatnot, and we're like, oh, it's
Speaker 2: like Christmas all over again.
Speaker 1: Like I'm certain that.
Speaker 2: Everyyboard maker from Yamaha to like all these guys are.
Speaker 1: Like, I off to you try our product. Well here
Speaker 1: here's the thing though.
Speaker 9: I was on Yamaha for a long time, but they
Speaker 9: wasn't giving me that love you were talking about. I
Speaker 9: was like, hey, yeah, yeah, because I'm like, yo, why
Speaker 9: am I having to call the m D for Alicia
Speaker 9: Keys to get to the head of Yamaha Keyboards.
Speaker 1: I'm actually a keyboard player, but.
Speaker 9: I have R and B, Grammys and hip I'm Grammys
Speaker 9: and ship I'm here, Hey this works.
Speaker 1: For you guys, you know.
Speaker 9: But the m ds of the people get those people
Speaker 9: get those looks, and I'm like, yo, but I'm an
Speaker 9: actual panel player, like you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 9: I should get those looks, and I wasn't getting them.
Speaker 9: So I left and and like you said before, everybody
Speaker 9: else is like yo, for for years wanted to me.
Speaker 9: So I'm on cork now, you know, and they should me.
Speaker 9: They're great. I have to stop them from giving me shit.
Speaker 9: You're right, I do.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, how many? Well?
Speaker 2: The thing is is that when keyboards are manufactured and
Speaker 2: they put all those patches inside of one thing, like,
Speaker 2: does it matter how much product they make?
Speaker 1: Like, isn't it just the same version of basically?
Speaker 9: But for me, what interested me in keyboards initially too,
Speaker 9: was because I started needing to use a keyboard on
Speaker 9: the road when I was playing my shows, and I
Speaker 9: needed something that felt good, that felt close to a
Speaker 9: piano as possible, and that sounded as close to a
Speaker 9: piano as possible. So that's what I became interested in
Speaker 9: plugins and interested in different keyboards because you know, but
Speaker 9: so the one I have now, the one I use now,
Speaker 9: the Chronos, feels the best when it comes to me
Speaker 9: having to get around like that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 9: like really get around. So for me it was always
Speaker 9: that what felt the best, you know, because at my shows, yeah,
Speaker 9: I use a piano and I always have a Fender
Speaker 9: roads and then I have something on top, you know,
Speaker 9: I'm kind of like I have a smaller crogos on
Speaker 9: top for my extra little sounds here and now. For
Speaker 9: for years I didn't have to do a lot of
Speaker 9: sounds because I had Casey Benjamin, he had a million
Speaker 9: sounds and this ship.
Speaker 8: Right right right, Yeah, I remember we did that gig
Speaker 8: at that sound was a rouge ands ago and he
Speaker 8: was I think you were playing you were you playing
Speaker 8: the lead, the door, lead, the ren Yeah, I think
Speaker 8: you were.
Speaker 7: Playing that night and Casey had yeah, all the million Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm just not.
Speaker 9: I'm not really interested in a lot of sounds. I
Speaker 9: like piano, I like roads, like a few leads and
Speaker 9: a pad every now and then. But I like to
Speaker 9: you know, I know those guys who are great at
Speaker 9: those sounds, and not even hire those guys to come
Speaker 9: do sounds.
Speaker 5: Hey, you want to make some sounds?
Speaker 1: You do that. It freezes me up. It freezes me
Speaker 1: up to just do what I want to do. You know.
Speaker 8: Hey, I was just gonna ask you about the Miles
Speaker 8: Project that I was like honored fucking to be on,
Speaker 8: Like just to log into my ass cap and see
Speaker 8: a song and it's fun.
Speaker 7: Take over and Miles Davis like.
Speaker 8: Nigga, what you know what I'm saying like for like
Speaker 8: for real, for real, like so yeah, I mean I've
Speaker 8: told you this a billion times.
Speaker 7: I just won't say it for everybody. Brother, thank you
Speaker 7: so much for sure, for sure.
Speaker 8: But but now, man, I wanted to ask you, like
Speaker 8: so when they give you just carte blanche and say
Speaker 8: all right, do whatever, how I guess how much of
Speaker 8: an undertaking is that and how.
Speaker 7: Involved is his family in that?
Speaker 8: And you know kind of you know, making sure that
Speaker 8: you know that ship has done tastefully or whatever, like
Speaker 8: what was that process?
Speaker 7: Like, man, just doing that Everything album?
Speaker 1: It actually was his nephew, right, yeah, it was Vince,
Speaker 1: his nephew.
Speaker 9: And I've been on Vince for years and he's always
Speaker 9: he's fan of the music, and he you know, he
Speaker 9: knows that I'm I shadow a lot of what Miles
Speaker 9: already did and I and I think like that and
Speaker 9: I look see what you know?
Speaker 1: So he hit me up about it.
Speaker 5: First.
Speaker 1: I was already doing the score for the movie.
Speaker 7: I was in the middle of that, right, I.
Speaker 1: Was already in the middle of the movie.
Speaker 9: And then Sony hit me up about doing that doing
Speaker 9: the because it was about to be his ninetieth birthday
Speaker 9: or something.
Speaker 1: I think at that time it's gonna be his ninetieth birthday.
Speaker 1: And they were like, we want to do.
Speaker 9: A remix album, blah blah, and I was like, I'll
Speaker 9: only do it if it's I don't want to do
Speaker 9: a remix album, Like I'm not interested in putting some
Speaker 9: Miles trumpets over hip hop, you know what I mean,
Speaker 9: Like that's been done.
Speaker 1: I want to do that.
Speaker 9: I said, the only way I'll do it is if
Speaker 9: you let me in the vault and let me take
Speaker 9: what I want. And they were like, okay, So they
Speaker 9: gave me eight hours.
Speaker 7: In the vault.
Speaker 1: Man, eight hours of the vault.
Speaker 7: Well, I thought you been eight hours to do the album.
Speaker 5: I was like, God, damn no, no, no, they gave
Speaker 5: me eight hours of the vault.
Speaker 1: That's way too little, way too little.
Speaker 2: I took as much as I possibly could in that
Speaker 2: time because they didn't want to let me in the vault.
Speaker 1: Originally, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: But it was like a back and forth from my
Speaker 9: people there people, and then they finally like, okay, we'll
Speaker 9: give you eight hours.
Speaker 1: You know how much unreleased Miles was in there.
Speaker 5: I have a lot of ship. What were they what?
Speaker 1: What? What were you?
Speaker 9: How you doing.
Speaker 1: Well? What?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: What were you taking m P three's tapes? What are
Speaker 1: you talking about? No?
Speaker 5: P three? Ship?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 1: I brought my hard drive in and they were just like,
Speaker 1: take what you want? What do you want to pull up?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: What I'm gonna pull up now? But uh, you know
Speaker 1: some digitized and some stuff was to track what you
Speaker 1: can't do much with. But then they had ship that
Speaker 1: was like eight tracks, and I really wanted him cursing out.
Speaker 5: I got so much I got Yeah, I got that.
Speaker 1: I got him.
Speaker 9: I got him talking ship, cussing out, talking to Ron
Speaker 9: Carter when he was trying to learn from them jazz dance.
Speaker 1: But wait, did I share this previously?
Speaker 2: On another I found out something that I don't think
Speaker 2: the jazz world is aware of.
Speaker 1: What I was recently told.
Speaker 2: By a lot of jazz I had to ask at
Speaker 2: least six of them. I did not realize that Ron
Speaker 2: Carter does not know how to solo good. So someone
Speaker 2: someone brought this up to me when I was asking my, my, my, other,
Speaker 2: my older jazz heads about stuff, and to them, they're
Speaker 2: baffled that one of the most iconic hip hop samples
Speaker 2: and they're referencing the mccourteimer sample for the Choices Yours
Speaker 2: with Ron Carter, and Ron Carter is on base doing that,
Speaker 2: and I guess the the whole thing is that they're
Speaker 2: laughing at the irony that the world's worst soloists. And
Speaker 2: I was like last for me right now, They're like no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no, Ron's a perfect foundation for music. But if
Speaker 2: you notice he Miles never gave him a solo or
Speaker 2: any of his records. And I was like, I don't
Speaker 2: believe his ship. And then I went back and for
Speaker 2: a whole month listening to every Miles Davis, couldn't find one.
Speaker 1: If anything, it was just walking solo. If there was one,
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 5: Just was one like there was.
Speaker 2: He was there just as foundations, I exactly. And then
Speaker 2: when I was like, wait a minute, why is that so?
Speaker 2: Because Ron Carter is just like he's like, no, this
Speaker 2: is y'all fault is. That's tribe, fault y'all. May y'all
Speaker 2: may be worst musicihit in Miles Davids arsenal King and
Speaker 2: I'm like this is blasphemy. But I didn't realize, like,
Speaker 2: how do you judge. Maybe I don't know, Like, how
Speaker 2: do you know if a cat is real or not?
Speaker 9: Well, that's it depends on an instrument, because the reality
Speaker 9: is no, most people don't want to hear based solo anyway.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, Christian McBride.
Speaker 9: You went to school with the most incredible bass soloist
Speaker 9: in the history of jazz music, so you have a
Speaker 9: different outlook on it. But most people don't want to hear.
Speaker 1: So that's when you go to the bathroom.
Speaker 5: Man all that that's the joke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I now I believe that Chris is I
Speaker 2: mean next amingus, Like, I feel like Chris is the
Speaker 2: god of jazz bass.
Speaker 1: So maybe I am sported.
Speaker 9: But period, there has no never been a soloist like
Speaker 9: Christian McBride. That's not even that's not even up for debate.
Speaker 9: There's not one person that's even close to it. Jazz
Speaker 9: based soloists like McBride is. No one gets around like that.
Speaker 7: It's true.
Speaker 9: No bass player makes other instruments scared to play after them,
Speaker 9: except Christian McBride when they solo. I've had this conversation
Speaker 9: with all everybody. He's the only bass player that when
Speaker 9: he solos you're like, fuck, what what am I going
Speaker 9: to play? You know what I'm saying, Like most based,
Speaker 9: most basis stay in their base range and they don't
Speaker 9: have vocabulary. Because you don't, you don't get to work
Speaker 9: out as much, you don't get to sol us much.
Speaker 9: You have the one based solo in a set at best.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Everybody else, that's what you do.
Speaker 2: Your job is just so without you, without you throwing
Speaker 2: your contemporaries under or your idols under. Yeah, but I
Speaker 2: always wanted like and this is where because comedians have
Speaker 2: a whole nother standard.
Speaker 1: I I guess I have a.
Speaker 2: You know, like when I criticize Kanye's patches, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: his drum patches or whatever.
Speaker 1: And even Kanye him something now I feel like he'll
Speaker 1: tell you.
Speaker 2: But it's just like, you know, I hear people just
Speaker 2: dismiss it as like oh you have like dog with
Speaker 2: sole ears, like you hear something that we can't hear.
Speaker 2: But you know, like when I hear a producer, I
Speaker 2: could tell like based on there, you know, the way
Speaker 2: they they chop their their patches and what they use
Speaker 2: and their arrangement and their tone and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, stuff that I can hear that the average
Speaker 1: person can't hear.
Speaker 2: But yeah, how do you know, Like my dad would
Speaker 2: know how good a musician was based on how they
Speaker 2: play ballad.
Speaker 1: He makes them play a ballot and he was like,
Speaker 1: I can instantly.
Speaker 2: Tell who is good and who's not good when you play,
Speaker 2: when you give them the easiest ship in the world
Speaker 2: to play and they fall apart in front of me.
Speaker 9: So yeah, no, that's a good one too. Especially as
Speaker 9: the piano player. When you play a ballad, you're exposed
Speaker 9: because now it's it's really about your touch and there's
Speaker 9: the space there. So what how much knowledge do you
Speaker 9: have to fill up that space? What what can you
Speaker 9: do to fill up that space? A lot of people
Speaker 9: feel and be tasteful about it. A lot of people
Speaker 9: feel like, especially piano players, they feel like when I
Speaker 9: go to ship like nam or stuff like that, a
Speaker 9: million piano players.
Speaker 1: Everybody's trying to play.
Speaker 5: I went on.
Speaker 1: I went twice in my life. I had to go
Speaker 1: over again. I did a thing for Corey just read recently.
Speaker 1: I did a show there for Corey and so.
Speaker 9: It's yeah, you already know anyway, Yeah, everybody wants to
Speaker 9: play the fastest thing they possibly can giant steps or
Speaker 9: some shit like that. And then when you play fast,
Speaker 9: you don't have to have touched, not about touch, not
Speaker 9: about this, not about that, and it goes by so
Speaker 9: fast and not paying attention. But with piano players you can,
Speaker 9: like I can sit down, I can see a piano
Speaker 9: player sit down, and in five seconds I can know
Speaker 9: what I'm about to hear. Sometimes I can do it
Speaker 9: just by your posture and what you while you hold
Speaker 9: your hands. A lot of times I can tell, okay,
Speaker 9: you actually don't play jazz. You have to play church organ,
Speaker 9: but you're playing piano today. Like for instance, you see
Speaker 9: me play organ, you think I don't play keys because
Speaker 9: I suck at orgon. I know, I know Cheddrick Mitchell
Speaker 9: and Corey Henry and James Poison, these kinds of cats.
Speaker 1: I'm not an organ player. The technique it's a different.
Speaker 7: So that Corey does like that, you would.
Speaker 1: Have to practice a lot to get to that.
Speaker 9: When he plays chords, not lines is different. Like lines
Speaker 9: on organ are easy because the key is the plastic
Speaker 9: and there's no weight. A real piano has weight, so
Speaker 9: you could when you can tell somebody's real chops when
Speaker 9: they play a piano, because that's when the weight's there,
Speaker 9: you know what I mean. Yeah, if you're slow on organ,
Speaker 9: you're I can't help you because it's a plastic key.
Speaker 9: You just supposed to be fast, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9: But core, Yeah, any organ player that is really good
Speaker 9: moving from chord to chord. It's a fucking spider technique.
Speaker 9: Like everything has to be connected, and you voice things
Speaker 9: different because you're used to having bass pedals, So your
Speaker 9: voicings up here are different. Piano players, are you not
Speaker 9: used to having bass pedals? We have to play base here,
Speaker 9: so our voicings are different to make it full, because
Speaker 9: we have to make it fool here. Organ players have
Speaker 9: the pedals, so they're the just their their chord. The
Speaker 9: structure of the chord is stuff be like what the
Speaker 9: hell you know? So immediately you could tell what somebody
Speaker 9: plays by like sitting sitting down, you know what I mean?
Speaker 9: And yeah, and the volcano delary is super easy to
Speaker 9: tell immediately.
Speaker 8: You know that players is another thing too, like I know,
Speaker 8: like yeah, that's a whole other thing, like.
Speaker 9: Yeah, roses, yeah, yeah, everybody that plays piano can't play
Speaker 9: roles and vice versa and like all those the different
Speaker 9: touches and different vibes and like.
Speaker 2: One, So what's your accordion game? Like, I'm crazy on accordion,
Speaker 2: I'm crazy on the courdy. What fucking about?
Speaker 5: I do know one that's amazing though.
Speaker 1: I used to see him with Jeff Tay Watts on
Speaker 1: Monday Nights at the Z Bar years ago, really accordion
Speaker 1: and tang. He was smashing. Bro wait a minute for
Speaker 1: the guy.
Speaker 2: How how does it feel to be the person that
Speaker 2: got Malcolm Jamal Warner his first Grammy?
Speaker 5: That's funny.
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy about that? Though?
Speaker 9: That wasn't supposed to have Most of my stuff on
Speaker 9: black Radio. I'll tell everybody all the time. It's like,
Speaker 9: whenever I make an album, the universe is always a
Speaker 9: co producer because it never.
Speaker 1: Goes how I wanted to go all the way.
Speaker 5: And I know that.
Speaker 9: I know that going in and I'm okay with it
Speaker 9: because great things, better things have happened because the universe
Speaker 9: is like, look, nigga, this is what's gonna happen. So
Speaker 9: she'lld the fuck this is. Can't do shit about it.
Speaker 9: So when I did the Song of Jesus, Chris of America.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 9: It was and and and old to the children of
Speaker 9: the Sandy Hill tragedy. That morning of the actual tragedy,
Speaker 9: I was doing it Stevie tribute I believe, I'm me
Speaker 9: or you came and sat in. Was it that that
Speaker 9: day or the next day? We did two nights at
Speaker 9: Harlem stage of a Stevie Wonder tribute.
Speaker 1: Damn man, I need you around just to remind me
Speaker 1: of shit.
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, yes, and you can and I'm mer came by.
Speaker 9: It might have been so two nights. The first night
Speaker 9: was of that day that that tragedy happened. Another night
Speaker 9: and you came one of those nights, can't remember which one.
Speaker 9: And that was my first time doing that arrangement of
Speaker 9: Jesus Chrisen of America with Laila for for for them.
Speaker 9: And there was that that day when that happened. I
Speaker 9: woke up and my good friend Jimmy, Jimmy Green, his
Speaker 9: daughter was killed in that. Oh wow, Jimmy was the
Speaker 9: first Jimmy.
Speaker 1: She was the first grade.
Speaker 9: Few times, yeah, she was the first grade. And so
Speaker 9: that fucked me up because I have at this point,
Speaker 9: I have a son, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 9: like oh Ship. She hits you harder when you have kids,
Speaker 9: things that happened with kids. If you don't have kids,
Speaker 9: it's one thing. We Once you have a kid, it's whole. No,
Speaker 9: I can't even watch movies the same. You know, when
Speaker 9: you have a kid, everything's different, like.
Speaker 1: Oh Ship.
Speaker 9: So anyway, fast forward, when black Radio time came around,
Speaker 9: I told Layla, hey, I want to do Jesus is
Speaker 9: in America.
Speaker 1: You know, She's like okay. She came in and as
Speaker 1: usual as she.
Speaker 5: Did for the song.
Speaker 9: MM cherish today was one tape. She was reading the
Speaker 9: lyrics on her phone. It was actually it was the
Speaker 9: sound check. She was right beforehand. She said, mike check
Speaker 9: one two, Mike check one two. That's why I faded
Speaker 9: it in because right before that she was checking the
Speaker 9: mic and that take you here is the sound check.
Speaker 9: So when she finished, she was like okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 9: I was like thanks, We're good.
Speaker 7: Nah. That was it. That was it.
Speaker 9: She had the same thing for Judas Chasing America, Jesus
Speaker 9: Chisen in America. She came in, did that shit one time,
Speaker 9: one take. I don't have bonus tracks of Laila. I
Speaker 9: don't have bonus shit of Layla because she just doesn't
Speaker 9: want to take and I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm good.
Speaker 9: And anyway, we did the song and in my mind
Speaker 9: I was gonna get Jimmy Green to do a poem
Speaker 9: for his daughter in that song, you know, in the
Speaker 9: actual song, and so I was reaching out to him
Speaker 9: and you know, trying to see if you want to
Speaker 9: do it. And my other friend, who was really close
Speaker 9: to the otis, was like, man, this is not a
Speaker 9: good time for Jimmy, you know, blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: So he couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: Malcolm had hit me and like, yo, I want to
Speaker 2: come hang out at the studio next time you're the studio.
Speaker 2: So I hit Matholm like, yo, we'll come hang out
Speaker 2: the studio. I'm doing something mixes of songs blah blah blah.
Speaker 9: And we started mixing Jesus Hild in America and I
Speaker 9: told him I was like, I was trying to get
Speaker 9: a poem on here.
Speaker 1: He was like, dude, I'm a poet, right.
Speaker 9: I was like, I forgot about that. He was like
Speaker 9: he was like, bro, give me a stab at it.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna go I'll go write something right now. Give
Speaker 9: me a stab you don't have to use it if
Speaker 9: you don't want it. He went to the We're in
Speaker 9: We're in Westlake. He went upstairs, took it like an hour,
Speaker 9: wrote it, came down, spit it, and then that was it.
Speaker 1: That was it, man surprise.
Speaker 9: Yeah bro, yeah bro, But a lot of those things
Speaker 9: with black Radio. That's how black Radio actually album. The
Speaker 9: actual album. I canceled it like four times because it
Speaker 9: was too hard to make, because nobody's schedule.
Speaker 5: Was lining up.
Speaker 9: So I literally said fuck it, we'll do it next
Speaker 9: year or some ship four times and then out of
Speaker 9: the blue, my manager hit me, I was on tour.
Speaker 9: I was on tour with my band, and my manager
Speaker 9: hit me like, I don't know what happened, but every
Speaker 9: guest is available next week.
Speaker 5: In l A.
Speaker 7: And this is black Radio one or two one one
Speaker 7: one in LA.
Speaker 1: Everybody's available. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh ship, so yeah, it might have been.
Speaker 1: It might have been. It might have been everybody was
Speaker 1: February is where you catch all year.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so it's like, oh shit, Okay, so I canceled
Speaker 9: my tour and I flew I flew in and I
Speaker 9: flew right and I went right to, uh, what's the girl?
Speaker 1: King's house.
Speaker 9: That was when k happened, when they had a little
Speaker 9: and I'm here, you were like talking about King and Erica.
Speaker 9: My friend Megan, she was happening to kind of be
Speaker 9: managing them at the time, and she was and I
Speaker 9: told her. I was like, man, I want to get
Speaker 9: them on the record. I think that'd be dope.
Speaker 1: They got some fire now talking.
Speaker 9: House moved love and I went to their house and
Speaker 9: I to meet them and to write the song. And
Speaker 9: they happened to have a washer and dryer, and I
Speaker 9: had just came from Europe. I went stretching that crib.
Speaker 7: I got laundry, and I was like, nigger.
Speaker 9: I wrote some chords and I said, okay, y'all finish it.
Speaker 9: I went to the laundry room and did laundry while
Speaker 9: they were writing a song. And in the middle of that,
Speaker 9: I had Loupe come over to their house to meet
Speaker 9: up with him to give him the idea I had
Speaker 9: for him to do what he's going to do.
Speaker 1: For the record, And then I had Most come over
Speaker 1: a little bit later. So they were freaking out.
Speaker 5: They were like, what, oh my god. You know.
Speaker 9: Most came over a little bit later so I could
Speaker 9: tell him, Hey, this is what I'm thinking about doing
Speaker 9: blah blah blahh tomorrow when you come to you know,
Speaker 9: blah blah blah blah blah. But that's and then literally
Speaker 9: that's just how that happened. That that process was Black
Speaker 9: Radio one was a five was five days of recording,
Speaker 9: and then Black Radio two was like six days of recording.
Speaker 7: You know, man on Black Radio two. We have to
Speaker 7: ask a guest that we had earlier, was the music
Speaker 7: Lord Jesus does music like ah, yeah, oh.
Speaker 5: Because you don't like it what he's saying.
Speaker 8: No, So he has a he has a very complex
Speaker 8: relationship with his back catalog. Okay, when we had it
Speaker 8: on the show, we didn't specifically ask him about this song.
Speaker 8: So no, he didn't slander. Now we didn't ask about
Speaker 8: but no, that'ship as hard as fuck. But like, what
Speaker 8: was there was it like recording that did he into it?
Speaker 5: Or what was it he loved?
Speaker 9: Matter of fact, last time I saw him live, I
Speaker 9: was just happen to be in Oakland and I saw
Speaker 9: he was at Yo She's and I just walked in
Speaker 9: and he was playing all yeah, he was singing he
Speaker 9: liked it, you like it?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's another universe.
Speaker 9: That's another universe thing. Because I flew to Atlanta. I
Speaker 9: did the music already. I flew to Atlanta so he
Speaker 9: could write the song and we went to.
Speaker 3: The studio and that's why he liked it.
Speaker 9: The first night, the first night we were in the studio,
Speaker 9: he came up with the hook and blah blah blah.
Speaker 9: There were like we had another night. So the next day,
Speaker 9: matter of fact, you have something to do with this Fonte.
Speaker 1: We never talked about this, okay, because I'm tired of
Speaker 1: I think I know, I think I know what this is.
Speaker 7: If it's okay, go ahead.
Speaker 9: I was in Atlanta and the next day you, for
Speaker 9: an exchange, was having a show at some festival or
Speaker 9: something Atlanta.
Speaker 7: Might yo, that's right, because we hit you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you came on stage and I came in with y'all.
Speaker 7: Hell yeah that She was dope as fun, I remember.
Speaker 1: And Christe Michelle was there. I think she played after you.
Speaker 5: Yes she did.
Speaker 1: I stopped for seven.
Speaker 8: First of all, I love all because that was that
Speaker 8: was shout out to Joe dene on that Joe Dene
Speaker 8: hit me, Jody, she hit me because at the time,
Speaker 8: our keyboard player and m b Zo. He had like
Speaker 8: another gig. He had something to do. It's like the
Speaker 8: only f gig you ever ever missed, And and she
Speaker 8: was like yo. Joe was like yo, So Robert, would
Speaker 8: you mind if he he just come up? I was
Speaker 8: like rob She's like glass. I was like hell, yeah, yes, yeah,
Speaker 8: that's my nigga.
Speaker 7: Tell me to come on.
Speaker 1: And so from that is it from sitting in with you,
Speaker 1: Chrissette saw me. It was like I saw her after that.
Speaker 5: I was like, yo, what's up? What the fuck?
Speaker 1: She was like, oh, my bust.
Speaker 9: And she was like, I was gonna fly back to
Speaker 9: New York, but it was a storm in New York,
Speaker 9: really best Sandy, Hurricane Sandy or and she was like,
Speaker 9: I can't fly back to New York, so I'm gonna
Speaker 9: be here nextra day.
Speaker 5: What are you doing?
Speaker 9: I was like, Yo, I'm in the studio, come hang out,
Speaker 9: come by. She came by the studio and I handed
Speaker 9: her appeared in the pad. That was like right the
Speaker 9: second verse, So that's literally how oh yeah.
Speaker 1: It came about the.
Speaker 9: Two her being on it because originally just music, but
Speaker 9: literally came about because I came to sit in with
Speaker 9: you and Chrissette.
Speaker 7: Was there, watch God work, Robert the Connector.
Speaker 2: I'm like Radio two, the Bill Withers thing. Bill Withers
Speaker 2: came to the so for a random for some random reason.
Speaker 9: Casey when we set up at the studio, was like, yo,
Speaker 9: let's do Let's play Lovely Day for the sound check.
Speaker 9: And I was like, okay, we literally never played Lovely
Speaker 9: Day A right, Okay, what's the.
Speaker 5: Changes the game?
Speaker 1: He showed me the change. I'm like, cool. So we
Speaker 1: just took then one take down Lovely Day. Boom.
Speaker 9: That's literally what you hear on the fucking album on
Speaker 9: the on the extended version. There's a Black Radio two
Speaker 9: then as extended. So anyway, one of the guys there
Speaker 9: was like, Yo, I know Bill, I'm gonna call up
Speaker 9: and tell him you did that.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, we cool. Call Bill. Everybody didn't
Speaker 1: call Bill.
Speaker 9: He called Bill, put me on the phone with him.
Speaker 9: He was like, yeah, young man, I wish I could
Speaker 9: come to hear your song, but you know, I'm feeling
Speaker 9: a little sick or whatever.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, okay, no problem, man, Honor, honor
Speaker 2: that you even took the time to talk whatever.
Speaker 5: Cool.
Speaker 1: So fast forward next day, uh, who's that?
Speaker 9: I was gonna comment and uh, Macy Gray I think
Speaker 9: the next day and Rosh was riding his rhyme and
Speaker 9: he ended up having like a writer's black in one part.
Speaker 9: So we were just upstairs chilling, kind of talking shit
Speaker 9: or whatever, and up walk up up the stairs Bill
Speaker 9: Withers walk there.
Speaker 1: Wow, Like what dude?
Speaker 9: He walks in and he's like, well, let me hear
Speaker 9: this song. Oh shit, okay, So we go to the
Speaker 9: downstairs the studio.
Speaker 1: I play on the song.
Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, I like the song, like what.
Speaker 1: Y'all did with it?
Speaker 2: Buam and then talk to us for three hours straight.
Speaker 2: Stories just stories and stories.
Speaker 9: And stories, got all video story and story story from that.
Speaker 9: Rashi was sitting behind him with a pin in the
Speaker 9: pad writing some of what Bill was writing down singing
Speaker 9: so Rosshia's second verse when I stand Alone from Blackbird
Speaker 9: Too really is a lot of Bill Withers words.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I'm gonna listen to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a lot of He's.
Speaker 7: One of our bucket lists.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 7: I hate we never got a chance to get him
Speaker 7: for your past. I want to QLs.
Speaker 2: So Rob, are there any like is there any I
Speaker 2: mean besides the eventual collaboration now you'll do with your son, YEP,
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Are there any bucket list projects that.
Speaker 2: You you have yet to you know, are you going
Speaker 2: to do a forrae into classical music?
Speaker 1: Will you?
Speaker 5: You know what?
Speaker 1: Guitar and I don't know.
Speaker 8: I would like to hear Robert Glass would take on
Speaker 8: like a Brazilian love affairs My Lady cover app not
Speaker 8: covering that, but you know something in that you know
Speaker 8: your own ship, but.
Speaker 1: Just that like the movie, like the movie Lady, My
Speaker 1: Lady is Cuban. Okay. So I went to Cuba hits
Speaker 1: we have a kid, and she took me and be
Speaker 1: in the Cuba.
Speaker 9: But she took me to Cuba in November to see
Speaker 9: the vibe and go to see the music of the
Speaker 9: clubs and everything. It was so fucking inspiring, bro, Like
Speaker 9: the musicians out there are fucking incredible.
Speaker 3: You got to see like the whole Apro Cuban, all of.
Speaker 1: It, all, all of it. I even got cool with
Speaker 1: Chucho because of that.
Speaker 9: I've been to chu Cho's crib and we hung out
Speaker 9: and plays, you know what I mean, like crazy, So
Speaker 9: I want to do like a I definitely want to
Speaker 9: do a like a a project like my ship meaning.
Speaker 1: Cuba, you know what I mean, like.
Speaker 3: Red Hot back in the day.
Speaker 5: You know Red Hot?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely want to do something like
Speaker 9: that where it brings that that that sound together because
Speaker 9: so many people take from Cuban musicians, but you don't
Speaker 9: see the musicians because the motherfuckers can't come over here,
Speaker 9: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean that part.
Speaker 9: So it's like, yeah, man, I was learning so much
Speaker 9: from her about the culture and everything, and so it's
Speaker 9: so deep and rich and so dope, you know what
Speaker 9: I mean. But also I thought a Brazilian one too, bro,
Speaker 9: Like I want to do something just like you know
Speaker 9: the chords in Brazilian music. You just be like, oh,
Speaker 9: you know, just over the things. I have so many, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 9: I have so many, But I have so many projects
Speaker 9: in my mind. That one that I want to I
Speaker 9: want to get done, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 9: you know, I definitely want to. I want to do
Speaker 9: an official like some ship, an official thing with the roots,
Speaker 9: a real one, you know what I mean. I've sat
Speaker 9: in so many years, but I attribute a lot of
Speaker 9: people asking me, like, you know what I'm saying like
Speaker 9: where am I where my sensibilities come for playing hip
Speaker 9: hop and things like that?
Speaker 1: How I got into it because I wasn't. I wasn't
Speaker 1: playing hip hop when I was in Houston.
Speaker 9: I just start playing hip hop until I got to
Speaker 9: New York and but I'll started taking me to y'all
Speaker 9: jam sessions.
Speaker 1: And my first time playing hip hop with the band
Speaker 1: was with you, you know what I mean?
Speaker 9: Like, so I got a chance to play with the
Speaker 9: roots a lot, which trained me in that in that
Speaker 9: world and to sit there and watch James Poyser and
Speaker 9: you know, and watch June. You know what I mean,
Speaker 9: play You know what I mean, like dumb Cats and
Speaker 9: mirror that that really train That's part of my part
Speaker 9: of my whole ship.
Speaker 1: You say nothing by the word, Let's do it.
Speaker 8: And don't be looking out to glass. We'na be hitting
Speaker 8: you up. We're in the process. I was putting the
Speaker 8: buggy here now since you're in l A. We're trying
Speaker 8: to figure out somehow trying to write a sketch for
Speaker 8: season two of Sherman Showcase.
Speaker 7: And we want we want you to be we want
Speaker 7: you to play Thelonius month.
Speaker 5: We don't know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: Ready Sherman showcase.
Speaker 4: Yo, can I just a little suggestion for the Emir
Speaker 4: Robert Glassford thing. I don't know if you recall, Robert,
Speaker 4: but there was a Roots picnic about what was that
Speaker 4: side six years ago that you performed at in the morning? Okay,
Speaker 4: so you remember telling me. I remember I was talking
Speaker 4: to you and Marsha and I asked you, like, you
Speaker 4: know what what was you like? As far as Bruce
Speaker 4: pic he was like, I would really like to perform
Speaker 4: when it gets dark outside people.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: Just like for you to also take this moment. I'm
Speaker 3: like when the Bruce Picnic come back outside.
Speaker 5: Said look they were setting up tables and ship like.
Speaker 7: Performed for the food truck man.
Speaker 1: I was like, Robert, even I don't attend the first
Speaker 1: Route picnic I ever attended.
Speaker 2: Was really it was that, Yeah, no, none of the
Speaker 2: cat hadn't even got none of the cabinet.
Speaker 5: So let everybody seem to be like, yo, you're playing.
Speaker 1: I was like, I played nine hours earlier, baby, all there.
Speaker 3: On Front Street.
Speaker 4: Because I'm like, in a way too, I don't know
Speaker 4: how much he's gotten a real live, great Black radio live.
Speaker 3: I was just saying, what if we could like recreate something.
Speaker 1: Were you not part of the the joint I did
Speaker 1: with Esperanza or was that not you? Okay, because that
Speaker 1: was probably ramming.
Speaker 3: See see I had to go on a good path.
Speaker 7: So back to the throw under the bus on my
Speaker 7: own show, this is this is no.
Speaker 4: No, no, we're doing something. Come on, build this picnic
Speaker 4: for twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: Robert Hill in the studio first, and then we'll we're
Speaker 2: sign in the next Rout's picnic and then President out
Speaker 2: of the office.
Speaker 1: So that way we can have a roots picnic. Oh
Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, exactly, there's that that part part
Speaker 1: to twenty one. I said twenty all right, well it's
Speaker 1: it probably will be twenty two.
Speaker 3: But yes, whatever, I just I wanted Ribaby class in
Speaker 3: the roots.
Speaker 9: I was just saying, boom, let's do it, let's go yo,
Speaker 9: I'm here. Whatever happened to that? Did that thing ever
Speaker 9: come out that we did in Dallas with the orchestra?
Speaker 1: You know what? You know, it's weird.
Speaker 2: Shaka's portion made it on YouTube. I don't you're your
Speaker 2: guess is as good as mine. I think you whoever
Speaker 2: like underwrote that like put it out for quarantine entertainment.
Speaker 1: But that's a good question. No, it hasn't officially come out.
Speaker 5: But that too.
Speaker 1: I think I did a piece with Erica. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: did Erica, You, Sakka Khan and the Roots in the Dallas.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, it was dope.
Speaker 2: We did some amazing stuff together. So you know, Dog,
Speaker 2: you know you're my favorite. Absolutely, we're going to do
Speaker 2: ship together.
Speaker 5: Let's go.
Speaker 1: Let us go, yo, Rob, We thank you for doing Questions. Fine,
Speaker 1: you're two parter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so on behalf of Sugar Steve, Laya Fangelo and
Speaker 2: uh unpaid bills somewhere. We also like to give a
Speaker 2: shout out to our our pals at Mazda and they're
Speaker 2: glorious X thirty No, thank you very much, Rob.
Speaker 5: We appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 7: On you on your daughter, man, I have what.
Speaker 1: What's her name is? Lola? Oh lol, Lola? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: may Riley. He's even going forty three, going off forty
Speaker 1: three exactly for sure. All right, y'all, this is quest
Speaker 1: Love and we'll see you on the next go round
Speaker 1: of Quest Love Supreme. M hm.
Speaker 7: Hm.
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