1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 2: What Up People? 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: June is here and that means it's Black Music Month, 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: and that Quest Love. 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 3: Supreme now the Quest Love Show. 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: We've taken this month seriously. 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: It's our chance to celebrate black music, document its history, 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: and recognize the impact it continues to have on our 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: culture around the world. 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 4: Throughout June, we'll. 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: Be bringing you an episode every day. 12 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: My team and I have gone back through the archives 13 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: and pulled together conversations, stories and moments that helped tell 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 1: the biggest story about black music and the people who 15 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: shaped it. And we also got four brand new Quest 16 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: Love Show episodes coming your way, spotlighting artists, fingers, innovators, 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: cultural shifters, revolutionaries from across the spectrum of black music, past, 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: present and future. Thanks for spinning. You're part of June 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: with us, Happy Black music. All Right, Ladies and gentlemen, 20 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: welcome to another edition Brand Imperial. 21 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 3: Another wait. 22 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: I don't feel to encourage when you guys are snickering 23 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: behind my back. You know that's that's words rappers say, 24 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, the professed. No, Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another. 25 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: Episode of Quest Love Supreme. 26 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: My name is Quest Love. We have Teams Supreme with 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: us snickering light you. Now that makes me sound like 28 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: the person that leads our world with his weak ass. 29 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know exactly. 30 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 5: I'm doing good contrary to the world. I'm doing No, actually, no, 31 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 5: I'm doing I'm doing good. I'm feeling good about about 32 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 5: life and whatnot. 33 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 6: That's cool. I'm talking to you all, so. 34 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: Steve, Yes, I know this is this is the highlight 35 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: of you know, I look forward to these conversations with 36 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: my friends. 37 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: Never know. Sugar Steve. 38 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 7: How you doing, Hey quest Hey, Team Supreme. 39 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: Steve. 40 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 7: I'm feeling real good right now. 41 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's been a long time since we asked 42 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: you about to Sugar Network. What's what's the HAPs of 43 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: the Sugar Network since Lantee Funny should ask. 44 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 8: We just ended season three and began season We just 45 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 8: started season four, which is the Blueberries Network now Blueberry 46 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 8: We're going to pretend after three years you don't know 47 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 8: how the Sugar Network works. 48 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 9: I'm sorry, Yes, everybody gets a season. 49 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 8: I'm sorry, yes, season we're on season four. 50 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 7: But we've only been around for like two and a 51 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 7: half years. 52 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 8: But we're already on season four and the new founder 53 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 8: is Blue Barriers, so you can find him at Blue Barriers. 54 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 7: It's the Blue Berrius Network for season four. 55 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: Thank you for you're still the executive producer. 56 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 8: Right, yeah, I'm the original founder Sugar Steve's. 57 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's named after you. I've seen that and find Tickeolo. 58 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: I'm good, brother, I'm good. 59 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 3: House it down yourth cacollect. 60 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: It's cool, man. 61 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 10: I think the governor said that they're about to do 62 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 10: a phase what they call a phase two point five 63 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 10: or something, so like now they're starting to open some gems. 64 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 10: So like gyms can open it like thirty percent capacity. 65 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 10: I think restaurants can open it like twenty percent. 66 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: Some crazy. My ass is still in the house, so 67 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: this shit needs nothing to me. But but you'a don't 68 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: have the gyms. 69 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 5: The gym's out here doing the little outside thing like 70 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 5: they going into the parking lot too. 71 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. Some of the gyms are outdoors. 72 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, yeah, some of them were. They were actually 73 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 10: actually my gym for a minute. They were kind of 74 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 10: doing it outside. Uh, but I don't know, I think 75 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 10: it kind of fell off, But I don't know. Just 76 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 10: being around a bunch of people just breathing hard and 77 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 10: sweating like that not seemed like a good life playing. 78 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: So yes, I've just. 79 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 10: Been sticking to my old man walks in the evening 80 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 10: and uht'. 81 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: Herefore old man walks? 82 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, just I hit my walk. 83 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: Bro. 84 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: Still getting your tenth dolls? 85 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: That's that? 86 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: What's up? Man? 87 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 3: Yeah? Im three morning? 88 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 6: Still are you still every morning? Six o'clock? 89 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: Rick? 90 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: Rick Rubin put me up to the task, and I'm 91 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: still doing it ten thousand a day. 92 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: That's great, man. 93 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:41,119 Speaker 5: That's I'm trying to unleash my inner strict uh growing 94 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 5: a bug and I'm actually gonna get on a plane. 95 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: Wow, really did you coming back to see your people? 96 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: See your mom? 97 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 3: My? 98 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 6: Mom is turning seventy And I'm like, cain't missed that? 99 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 4: So I'm else. 100 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 10: Man Side actually flew from uh La. She she did 101 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 10: that flight. She flew from l A to DC and 102 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 10: she said it was actually it ain't it ain't that bad. 103 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 9: It was, No, It's all good. 104 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 5: I'm make sure I eat everything I need to eat 105 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 5: for I get on the plane. Don't drink nothing, you know, 106 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 5: and if I do, I got my Clorox whites. I'm 107 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 5: gonna have my gloves. I'm gonna have my mask. I'm 108 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 5: gonna have my shield and I ain't. 109 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: Gonna can find Jet Blue. 110 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 6: No, I'm ana probably do do. 111 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 5: My Mama's my Mama's carrier, United, the one that has 112 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 5: you know, housed and fed may for forty something years. 113 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: Oh that's right, Yeah, United. I forgot, Yeah, I forgot that. 114 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: Hey, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that this 115 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: particular episode of Course Left Supreme is being brought to 116 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: you by Mazda. I gotta say shout out to Mazda 117 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: for letting me test drive their c X thirty. I 118 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: gotta say it's my first grown man car that I 119 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: personally drove myself. 120 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 5: Well, that's like one of those c uvs, right like 121 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 5: they got su They had SUVs, but now they got 122 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 5: the crossover. 123 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 2: The crossover kind of that. 124 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, But you know, like when I get in it, 125 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: like mind driving experience doesn't warrant a turnaround? 126 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: Like what's that? 127 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 3: I never heard for cars that I drive? 128 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Most cars that I drive 129 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: are yeah, like the set of Pee Wee's Playoffs. But 130 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: I gotta say this, this is kind of official. I 131 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: enjoy driving it, and good luck and trying to get 132 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: this car back from me. 133 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: My appreciate that it's comfortable. 134 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: And plus, you know, I'm on the farm driving two 135 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: hours every day to the city, and you know this 136 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: is where I listen to all my favorite podcasts and 137 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: my audio books and my meditation stuff. 138 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: So yeah, this this came right in time. I appreciate ably. 139 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: On Spotify and I saw you listening. 140 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 10: To some meditation and something, I was like, what the 141 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 10: hell is this a mirrorge playing? 142 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: I forgot that Spotify actually snitches on what I listened. 143 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 6: Oh my god, right now follow yeah, you follow me. 144 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: You ain't gonna see me. This is nothing but the 145 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: Brandy album for them. 146 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: I forgot the world can see what I'm listening to 147 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: because all I'm listening to is the meditation stuff. 148 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 10: Yeah it, but it'd be the time too, so it'll 149 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 10: be it's not you know, I mean, it'll be like 150 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 10: damn two o'clock in the morning. 151 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: It'll be late. 152 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: And so I see, I'll say that from midnight till 153 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: like eleven in the morning, that's my meditation now. 154 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 5: So you got to get to the change this picture. 155 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 5: Though they got your Philadelphia Experiment picture. I don't even 156 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 5: know who that person is. 157 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, not not you follow my see people follow 158 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: always look for quest love. 159 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: No, you got who my my my? Oh your government, 160 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: the government. 161 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 6: Shoot, Neil K. Thompson is right there, you are so right. 162 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how you mere. 163 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 9: I don't think people know that, because that's why your 164 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 9: listeners are different. 165 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: You got okay, I know, yeah, like only only for 166 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: certain people. 167 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, that's only for cute link niggas. 168 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: Because exactly, only for certain for certain niggas. That's exactly 169 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: why I did that, exactly. 170 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 11: Yeah. 171 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: No, it's good to hear that you're you're facing your fears. 172 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: I too, am going to get on a plane tomorrow. 173 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 6: Ain't you been getting on a plane. Don't play me, 174 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 6: play lotto. 175 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 3: No, I've not been on a plane since. 176 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: So you drove, because y'all drove to the all. 177 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: I've been driving to Ohio since that time period. 178 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 9: I have questions about what y'all doing up there? 179 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 6: Y'all doing something productive out there? 180 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: I am you mean them, I'm not just you. 181 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 6: I was just curious. I didn't know how to ask. 182 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 5: But I see all the pictures posted, and I see 183 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 5: you know, all the celebrities, and I'm just wondering, since 184 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 5: we know we're gonna enter the state of the world. 185 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 5: Are y'all like actually talking about things that could help 186 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 5: you know that y'all are powerful individuals. 187 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's not G thirteen, but I will 188 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: say that a good four to five hours is pretty much. 189 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: I don't know when these episodes are coming to be 190 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: or I don't know if it belongs to quality or. 191 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 7: Dave owns the content. 192 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: But dude, oh, I told you that's what they was doing. 193 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: I told you it's about Yeah, it's at this rate, 194 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: I think he has I know, lie, I think there's 195 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: about forty hours of content. 196 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 9: Yo. 197 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 5: Nicol were releasing our Dave Chappelle episode fu that. 198 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying. 199 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 9: Oh man, I'm just saying. 200 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: Well, it's not that's the thing. I don't think Dave 201 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: has a platform. But this is going to go somewhere someday. 202 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: But the last time I did it, last time, it 203 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: was really good episode like most like basically each episode 204 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: is most quality. Dave like, they're the anchors. Those three 205 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: are the anchors, and then me and whatever comedian Kevin 206 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: Hart uh sometimes uh Kevin Hart, Bill Burr was the 207 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: last time before that was John Hamm Common Tiffany Hattish 208 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, but I will say that, yeah, 209 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's not just what I won't say. 210 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: It's not just us. I don't want to say fluffing No, 211 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: it's it's not it's us. 212 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not. 213 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually us holding people's feet to the fire. 214 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: Like everything that including an hour about you know, quality's 215 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: situation with the with social media and all that stuff 216 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: like shit got real. So I don't know when or 217 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: where it's coming or how it's coming or whatever. But 218 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: I mean, besides that, Dave actually has taken over his 219 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: his town. I got to commend him, like he has 220 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: the resources and the governor's blessing to. 221 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 6: You know, Ohio is very important. 222 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 5: Another and you know the another is that I was asking, 223 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 5: especially in the election, it's very important. 224 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's yeah, he's you know, he has medical 225 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: people and standby, he's testing, testing his audience, testing his guests. 226 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 3: And then once you do that, I mean you just yeah, 227 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: it's it's rather incredible. Well that is nice for me 228 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 3: to go back a third time. But I. 229 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 5: Also do hope that y'all figure out some other things 230 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 5: to do, like some things like similar to what Lebron 231 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 5: is doing. I know everybody doesn't have Lebron money, but 232 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 5: on some levels of opening up stadiums and figuring out 233 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 5: how we're going to get people out to vote and 234 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 5: whatnot comfortable places and say spaces. 235 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 6: Anything that could help the cause. 236 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying outside of just some good conversation, 237 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 5: but I appreciate the conversation as well. 238 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: Well. All I can do on mine and is raised money. 239 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 6: So all I can do is tell you, you tell them, 240 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 6: and then you know, working out. 241 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm certain that that's on his mind. I mean 242 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: that that's been discussed. I don't know what his direct 243 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: plans are for November, but you know, right now I'm 244 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: a member of team. When we all vote, we're registering 245 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: about thirty seven thousand. 246 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 3: People every night. DJ S. 247 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 6: That's good. 248 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, just trying to is the mystic. 249 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 5: We can win as long as we keep our heads 250 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 5: to this guy. This whole renewed sense of optimism is 251 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 5: what I feel. 252 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: Yes, No, I do have optimism. What I'm what I'm 253 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: more worried about. I mean, i'd be lying if I 254 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: didn't say that I was. I wasn't worried about the 255 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: transition period like November. 256 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 10: I'm actually getting out from November January. 257 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: Win or lose, like you know, he wins, Yeah, November 258 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: to January as hell for the next four years as hell, 259 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: but lose you know, who knows what that transition will 260 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: be like for those three months borderline hoping that he. 261 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 3: I predict that he's going to. 262 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: I realized you can lose the presidency if you remove 263 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: the goalposts of the election day. So if he moves 264 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: the election day, then instantly Pelosi becomes president. And so 265 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: I think in his head it's like I'd rather be 266 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: removed than lose, right, So. 267 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 6: That's going to be another that's another theory. 268 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: Oh my god, saying that he yeah, he'll plan it 269 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: as crats forced me out and like, so that's what 270 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: I'm hoping for. But you know, of course that they 271 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: followed the law, but they've been lost nine of the time, 272 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: so they. 273 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: Ain't followed the ship yet. 274 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 3: Why now, yeah, why how much mail? 275 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 6: Y'all getting it? But I'm just saying I ain't getting 276 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 6: the mailers. 277 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 10: Like I used to, right exactly, I got I actually 278 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 10: got my mail today. My mail has been running pretty smool. 279 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 10: But yeah, it's yeah, this ship is nuts. 280 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: So let's get to our episode, ladies and gentlemen. Today, 281 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: our Steam guest is a is a g that's right. 282 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: He's a multi Grammy Award winning and Emmy Award winning 283 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: not he I'm sorry, not ghetto, but your your your 284 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: g I. 285 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 4: Have a Soul Training award. Is that going there somewhere? 286 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 4: You have a soul training award? I have a soldier 287 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: war Yeah, I'm jealous, yo. From the last man. Dollar 288 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: was still alive when I got it. Wow, I got 289 00:14:58,560 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 4: a real one. 290 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: Your mayor you okay? 291 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: That inta. 292 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: Yes, I love it. 293 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: About that. 294 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 9: Whatever. 295 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: I got one brother, got one man, I got a 296 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 4: one month old of a girl. 297 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: You know, quarantine? 298 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? Wow, that was that was. 299 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 9: Do the math. 300 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 6: That's coping season. 301 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 4: Wow. 302 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: Wow old man. Congratulations bro, Bro, thank you man. 303 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 4: What's up? 304 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: Steve? 305 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 7: Congratulations? 306 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: How you doing? I'm good? Kick and playing and play. 307 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: Wait let me let's let our listeners know for those 308 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: that don't know, because it will be a bunch of 309 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: inside jokes and you know it will be so literally. Yeah, 310 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: our guest today is uh. He's literally worked with the 311 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: best of them. Name him uh Tip Uh, Michelle Dyla, 312 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: Jill Scott. 313 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 12: Have we worked worked together. My fault we did, y'all 314 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 12: did y'all did cover It's a lot of lunch, we did. 315 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: Hey, wait, way to circle back speaking. 316 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: Our theme today is having a renewed sense of optimism, 317 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: and our guests actually covered sounds of Blackness, Mortal Classic. 318 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: Optimistic with Brandy right now. 319 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: Yes, we're Brandy and August Green, featuring Common and Kareean Riggans. 320 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: And probably one of the craziest, funniest people I know. 321 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome Robert Gas. 322 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: Finally a long overdue we should but. 323 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 5: To me, just for the people that's listening, we should 324 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 5: tell him the only reason it's taking as long as 325 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 5: because Amir always wanted to be in the studio, in 326 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 5: a really banging ass studio with rob And that's the 327 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 5: only reason we haven't made this happen yet, Because we 328 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 5: sposed to be an elected lady somewhere exactly. 329 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: We thought we had like hopes and dreams of like 330 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: jam sessions and whatnot. 331 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 4: I kept looking, I kept looking at my resume, like, God, 332 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 4: damn it, am I good enough to be. 333 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 3: Friends Robert? Wait? Time out? Okay, So I just I 334 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 3: pulled up your Wikipedia page. Have you seen your Wikipedia. 335 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 4: Page lately, I haven't seen it. 336 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: What's with this photo, the photo that they got for 337 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 3: your week? 338 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: Is it with the dreads? 339 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: The dreads it's like his sears, Roebuck caog pose. 340 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: It's the ray Kwan You know when Ray Kwan puts 341 00:17:51,560 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 3: the temple is uh. 342 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not proud of that. 343 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 10: I'm I think we all have one of those poles 344 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 10: with that pole because when you're deeping, exactly what you do, right. 345 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 4: I was doing my time where I was really fighting 346 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 4: against taking photos at the piano. Every time I took 347 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 4: photos at the piano. I was like, that's corny. I 348 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 4: want to be away from the piano. And that was 349 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 4: during the time I was like, nah, I wanted to 350 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 4: do other stuff and I didn't know what to do, 351 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 4: and it was weird this this, I was like this, right? 352 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: Is that one photographers suggesting the piano to you is 353 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: like photographers telling the roots, we gotta go out to 354 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: the forest to take photos. 355 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: That's what I have an idea, go out to the forest. 356 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 4: Or put shackles on your feet, one of the. 357 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 3: Two roots exactly. 358 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: Take your picture next to Alex Haley. 359 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: Where are you right now? 360 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 4: Robert I'm in l A. 361 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 3: I'm at the l A spot. 362 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 6: That's right, he one of us. 363 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 3: Now you live out in LA right now? Yep? 364 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well I've always had an LA spot in New 365 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 4: York spot. But now I'm just here in LA for 366 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 4: a long period of time, So I'm pretty much I'm 367 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 4: pretty much here. I think I'm gonna call this home. 368 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: How long have you lived out there? I had this place. 369 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 4: Here for about four years, but I've never really spent 370 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 4: you know, you come in for a week here and 371 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 4: you know, but now I'm like staying here, you know. 372 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: So see, I always I always thought there was a stigma. Well, 373 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, you are a serious musician, and I always 374 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: thought that LA had a stigma on serious musicians, Like 375 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: there's always been this cloud of sort of pretentiousness with 376 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: LA session musicians and LA jazz musicians, at least in 377 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: the sixties, seventies, eighties, and nineties. I don't know if 378 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: it's still yeah, it has held over or not, but 379 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: you know. 380 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't when I'm out here, I'm not 381 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 4: being a musician. Okay, when I'm out here, I'm producing. 382 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 4: I'm going a film film, I'm scoring films. You know 383 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 4: what I mean, like I always say, New York is 384 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 4: where you learn how to play, and then LA is 385 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 4: where you make money. 386 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 5: So that's why I'm out here one. 387 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 4: You know, I'm actually long overdue being here in LA really, 388 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I should have been here 389 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 4: ten years ago. Yeah, yeah, man, just for the opportunities 390 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 4: of what I want to do, because I'm not trying 391 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 4: to be the best jazz piano player in the world anymore. 392 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 4: That's what I've moved to New York to do. When 393 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 4: I was the high school, I said, I'm going to 394 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 4: New York. I'm gonna be the best jazz piano player. 395 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 4: And it was all about that, all about bigger musician years. 396 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 3: We were there already. I'm over that, yeah man, you were. 397 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 3: Now you want to work. 398 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 4: I want to work out. 399 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, But that's what it's supposed to be, though, That's 400 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 10: how it's supposed to be. I had like a og 401 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 10: tell me, like, you know, the first part of your 402 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 10: career it's about becoming the best, right, Yeah. But then 403 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 10: after a while it's like Nigga got to put myself 404 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 10: in the position to make the most money boom exactly. 405 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,479 Speaker 5: Let me ask, as a fan, does that mean that 406 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 5: you've done everything you wanted to do musically, like are 407 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 5: your music goals or. 408 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, no no. I put myself in 409 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 4: a position where I can always go back and do that. 410 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 4: You know, I can always make records. I don't have 411 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 4: to do the New York grind anymore. I don't have 412 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 4: to be in New York and beat play the clubs 413 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 4: and play the gigs, you know what I mean. I 414 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 4: can go to New York and play my show when 415 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 4: I want to play my shows and stuff like that 416 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 4: while I'm out here also doing film scores and all 417 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 4: that stuff. 418 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 5: You know, that's why you strategized and did those those 419 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 5: that when you had a whole residency in New York 420 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 5: right before you left them, right, that was brilliant. 421 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 3: That worked worked out. So that's all I got to do. 422 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: Every year. 423 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 4: I go to New York and stay one month and 424 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 4: do all my shows. 425 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: Get all your shows out the way, get your quarter done, 426 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: and then out out. 427 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 4: I love it and see my son. My son's in 428 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 4: New York, so I go there. I get you know, 429 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 4: the only reason I just keep my New York spot 430 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 4: so I can go back and see my son all 431 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 4: the time. You know what, I mean, but you know, 432 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 4: other than that, it's it's bye bye New York. 433 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 2: He had a chance. Has a son had a chance 434 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: to meet his sister yet? 435 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's one month old? Not yet. 436 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's just whatever. That's it. 437 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: That's it. 438 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 9: You know your son is hilarious. 439 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 3: How dangerous is he as a musician? Now? Yo? 440 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 4: Now dude, Now he there's not a deal of joint 441 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 4: he doesn't know and he there's not a deal of 442 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 4: joint that he doesn't know how it's made. Like he's 443 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 4: producing beats. Him and Kareem Riggins Sonny Dreas are making 444 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 4: the EP together. 445 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: I can't I love it? 446 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 4: So Glasperhem glassber Riggins like yeah, because first of all, 447 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 4: Kareem's son is crazy with the have you heard his beats? 448 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: No, he's like maybe thirteen. First of all, generation is 449 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: going to kill me, yo. 450 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 4: First of all on drums, he's crazy, Like I hire 451 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 4: him right now for a hip hop get not even joking. 452 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 4: We jammed and we jammed a few times here in La. 453 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 4: I believe you killing. But then his beat are his 454 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 4: beats are stupid? So him and Riley and my son 455 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 4: they always play Fortnite. They're always on the playing Fortnite 456 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 4: Ship and then they started making beats and going back 457 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 4: and forth with the beats and ship. 458 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: So now they Riley and. 459 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, JM and Lewis Okay, yeah, he's he's literally that's 460 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: what he's on now, that's literally what he's on. 461 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 5: Gera, these kids with Swiss beats Son and oh my god, 462 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 5: Jill Scott her Son making beats too. 463 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 464 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, they have access to the tools that we didn't like. 465 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 10: I mean, this technology is so I mean, you can 466 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 10: make beats on your damn phone now, you know what 467 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 10: I'm saying. 468 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 4: So, but Riley's like he and me yesterday that dad, 469 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 4: can you give me an n PC one? Wow? 470 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 3: I was like, uh yeah right now, Uh you just 471 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: released the project with uh ninth correct. 472 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, so the album called we got an album called 473 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 4: a Dinner Party. Yeah, me, Terrace, Martinmassie and Knife. 474 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 3: And uh yeah. 475 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: So with Felix, Felix, Felix there. 476 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 4: Felix, Man, I do. Felix is really dope. His beats 477 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 4: a dope too. He makes dope beachs too. 478 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: He made tracks, okay, yeah, stupid tracts. 479 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody making tracks. 480 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 4: Everybody makes tracks. I know, I've never been a track. 481 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 3: I've never been. 482 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 4: I've never wanted to make track. 483 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 3: I gotta make some beach right exactly. 484 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, I know all the dopest musicians, Let's 485 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 4: get in the room and make the dope ship. That's 486 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 4: how I'm always like that, like pluck that. But yeah, 487 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 4: you got to make tracks. But but yeah, so we 488 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 4: just did a dinner party right now. We're just we're 489 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 4: just finishing up a dinner party kind of remix kind 490 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 4: of situation where we took all the songs, but we 491 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 4: put guests on them. So we got Corday and Snoop 492 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 4: and a few other article low On Aaron, a few 493 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 4: other artists on those actual songs. Tank from taking the Bangers. 494 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's dope. I love her, man, she's dough. 495 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 4: Uh So yeah, finishing up that. That should be done 496 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 4: in a few days actually, and then I'm still in 497 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 4: the middle of working on Black Radio three as well. 498 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 9: Oh my god, so wait all right, can we just 499 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 9: real quick? 500 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 4: Don't you don't know I'm working on Black Radio three. 501 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 10: No, no, no, no, no, I know, I just forget. 502 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: I just forgot it was I forgot that was coming. 503 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 6: But that means that you all black Radio three. 504 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 10: You're supposed to be I was supposed to be. I 505 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 10: may be like, here's here's the thing I'm not playing. 506 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 3: Let me first what had happened was happened? 507 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 10: Hey man, you can't put me on blands. She don't 508 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 10: want them, to say myself. So let me set the 509 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 10: recor straight. Look, we in the goddamn pandemic. I don't 510 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 10: feel like doing ship. 511 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: I have learn. 512 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 10: Let me look, I'm a baking cliff. I'm in a 513 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 10: space where I have to learn. The first like three 514 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 10: four months of this ship was just like what the 515 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 10: fuck right? So I had to learn how to create 516 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 10: in this space. I knew how to create in the 517 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 10: old world when we was out torn and moving around 518 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 10: and bumping into each other and all that shit. 519 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: I know how to feel that creative tank. 520 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 10: I had to learn how to feel that creative tank 521 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 10: in a space where we can't go no fucking where. 522 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 10: So now I'm waking up again. I'm kind of finding it, 523 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 10: you know what I mean. I'm kind of finding my 524 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 10: voice again. So now to everyone, to Robert Glass and everyone, now, yes, 525 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 10: there's a big possibility I'll probably be on black radio 526 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 10: now because I know how to create I'm kind of 527 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 10: finding my voice now. But to me, he was like, yeah, man, 528 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 10: I got this joint send it. I'm like, Nigga, just 529 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 10: watched my aunt die on Zoom. Nigga Like, what the. 530 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 4: Too? 531 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 9: Literally, oh my, it was like months ago. 532 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to log into an app to watch 533 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 2: a funeral. Nigga. This is we're right now. Yeah, yeah 534 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: that might be there was up. 535 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: Okay, this might be my old age, but I'm under 536 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: the impression that you actually invented or pioneered d I 537 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: wyness when it comes. I know, you have an apple 538 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: on your phone that you do the vocals on and 539 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: then you just be sitting it the motherfuckers. 540 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 541 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 10: I mean when me and Nick did foreign exchange, yeah, 542 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 10: that was kind of the first, you know in terms 543 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 10: of I mean it was us doing it, and then 544 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 10: I think before that it was the postal service with 545 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 10: your boy from Deaf Cab, but they were actually sending 546 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 10: it through the mail. 547 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: We were sending it just you know, through I am. 548 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 10: But even with then, I mean, that was still at 549 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 10: the time where you know the world was open, like 550 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 10: we were going out, I was going to doing shows 551 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 10: and whatever. So the thing about now is just creating 552 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 10: in this where I think people are having most of 553 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 10: the artists, my homies. I talked to the thing that 554 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 10: the kind of prevalent feeling is that we're still being 555 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 10: held accountable, or we're still being held we're still accountable 556 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 10: for the same we're still under the same pressure, but 557 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 10: we no longer have those things we were able to 558 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 10: do to release that pressure exact. 559 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 2: So it's like you motherfucker still won't meet it. 560 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 10: Damn rapidy rap rapidly saying and do all this ship, 561 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 10: But I can't go to the gym right where and 562 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 10: where's the release? Like I can't I can't go to 563 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 10: the gym, I can't go to the movies. You know 564 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 10: what I'm saying, Like, well, I apologize, I apologize, and 565 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 10: I appreciate you for having this moment because there's so 566 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 10: many people that will feeling the same way. 567 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 6: You're right, You're right, you right. 568 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but I'm coming. 569 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 10: But you know now, like I'm figuring out like I 570 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 10: got I'm me and poove being working on ship like 571 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 10: I got ship coming, so so now I mean I'm 572 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 10: waking up now like now I figured out so so 573 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 10: now glass fell like with joints like us being Black 574 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 10: Radio three. 575 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that more than like what happened, because it's. 576 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 3: Always I have a studio to glass. 577 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 4: I want you on there too. I was gonna hit you, 578 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 4: but I had a whole idea. I want to talk 579 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 4: to you. We'll figure that out. 580 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll do it. If if doesn't do it, I'll 581 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 7: do it. 582 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: Bars. 583 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 6: I do interlus. You can see your little brother. 584 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: You have voiceoverat voice over. 585 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 5: I'm just joking, but I'm more curious about who else 586 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 5: is because I was just curious because I was like, damn, Robert, 587 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 5: you gotta I know people be coming at you when 588 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 5: you do these black radio albums. 589 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, well you haven't even I haven't even said 590 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 4: it out loud that I was doing it until I 591 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 4: released a single a few days ago, one of the 592 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 4: singles off the record with the song I did called 593 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 4: Betty than I Imagine and with her with her and Michelle Dello. Yeah, 594 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 4: so that's that's something I was holding for Black Radio three. 595 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: But I was like, fuck. 596 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 4: It, yeah, you know, because you still go on the 597 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 4: record correct, Yes, yes, but. 598 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't want to hold it any longer. 599 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 4: I'll put this one out, you know, just to just 600 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 4: put it out there because I need to put some music. 601 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 4: I just felt like I want to put something out 602 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 4: and this is a good time for it, you know 603 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 4: what I mean? And you know so, yeah, I got 604 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 4: to December to finish it, and I'm gonna go on 605 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 4: next year. 606 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: What have you been doing the last six months? Have 607 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: you been working at home or just like doing nothing? 608 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 3: Well? No, I learned how to do logic pretty good. 609 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 2: That got better, bro, That's what I do. That's all. 610 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: That's where I track all my shit in. 611 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: I got. I got better at logic. 612 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 4: And actually I'm building a mi a terist a building 613 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 4: a studio right behind my house right here, like literally 614 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 4: ten steps away. There's a one apartment behind my crib 615 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 4: and my landlord moved out of there and we took 616 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 4: it over and made it the studio. So we'll be 617 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 4: finished with that in like two three weeks. So that'll 618 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 4: be a place where we can like really go work, 619 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And so we've been doing that. 620 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 4: And about the noise, no, can't even they can't. It's separate. 621 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 4: It's no neighbor. The way it is. My landlord had it. 622 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 4: My landlord had it built by some people from our church. 623 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 4: It's like all sement and it stands with its own 624 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 4: It's like isolated is dope. It's really dope. 625 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 10: So in. 626 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 9: Okay, okay, I'm curious. 627 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yep, you know this is we we've known 628 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: each other for the longest, but we really have never 629 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: had an in depth conversation. And what I always no, no, 630 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: But the thing I was always curious about was that 631 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: I don't think it's same way that Philadelphia had its 632 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: renaissance in two thousand. 633 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I felt that Houston. 634 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: Had that same renaissance in two thousand and six, two 635 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: thousand and seven, you know with all these musicians who 636 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: at the time, like what was going on in your 637 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: high school? With all these musicians that were thinking left 638 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: of center? Like what was what was in the air, 639 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: like what was going on? 640 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,239 Speaker 4: So the cool thing about my high school, which you 641 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 4: know art high school, is because you went to one 642 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 4: of the best ones in Philly. 643 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: So you went to perform in art high school. 644 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 4: I want to perform at ours high school in Houston 645 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 4: High School for performing arts. And the cool thing about 646 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 4: my high school, which I think we might be the 647 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 4: only high school that did this. 648 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure. 649 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 4: Or maybe not. You can tell me if y'all did this. 650 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 4: My jazz director and not even just the jazz director, 651 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 4: in all the art areas, they hired teachers that didn't 652 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 4: have degrees. Wow. So our jazz cats that were teachers 653 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 4: were just cats. 654 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 2: Wow. 655 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't have degrees. 656 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 3: They did this by design or purpose or yes. 657 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 4: Because the motherfuckers that have to degrees most of the time, 658 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 4: you know. But the cats that the cats they're just playing. 659 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 4: They out there playing. So they was coming to the 660 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 4: school showing us was hip right now because they're out 661 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 4: there playing right now. So the cats that was over 662 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 4: our jazz, our jazz classes, our jazz professor, doctor Morgan 663 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 4: had a degree, but he made it so he would 664 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 4: just hire different and sometimes we would see one dude 665 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 4: for three months, never see him again. But he was dope. Yeah, 666 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 4: but it was dope. And one of the cool things 667 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 4: about US school also is we had a class period 668 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 4: called listening. 669 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 3: You didn't play. 670 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 4: You came in and we had a CD player and 671 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 4: everybody in the class could bring anything they wanted to 672 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 4: and you just sat there and listened. 673 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 3: Damn. 674 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,959 Speaker 4: And part of the problem with a lot of musicians 675 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 4: is they don't listen and they don't know what to 676 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 4: listen to, and they just don't listen, you know what 677 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 4: I mean. And our jazz rector made a class called Listen. 678 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 4: I would bring stuff. It could be gospel, it could 679 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 4: be anything, and and and all the cancer bring stuff, 680 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 4: you know, every Mark Kelly, that's Mark about it. You 681 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 4: know it was who did you go to school with? 682 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 4: Like what in my class? In my I went to 683 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 4: school with Mark Kelly. I went to school with Kendrick Scott, 684 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 4: h drummer, really guitar player, Mike Moreno Beyonce, she was 685 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 4: there for one year. Brian, Brian Cox, he was that's 686 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 4: my best friend. 687 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 688 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 4: I met Yeah, I met Brian eighth grade and he 689 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 4: told me to come there. We met at a talent 690 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 4: competition called Sammy Davis Junior Awards, and I was playing 691 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 4: I was playing piano with a gospel group and he 692 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 4: was singing with an R and B group called Business 693 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 4: or Pleasure? 694 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 2: What that was? 695 00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 3: That was like? 696 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 4: That was ninety three, ninety two. 697 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 10: Please tell me, Please tell me, Please tell me. Pleasure 698 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 10: was spelled with a Z, right it might be got. 699 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 4: To do so. 700 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 701 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 4: So so Brian we met at that competition he's like, yo, man, 702 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 4: you got to come to PBA where you were all 703 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 4: all the cats playing this blah. I was like, what's that? 704 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 3: You know? 705 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 4: So he told me about it, and I didn't go 706 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 4: with my freshman year because I thought I was going 707 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 4: to be a basketball player. So I was like, nah, 708 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 4: I want to play basketball. So I wasn't even serious 709 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 4: about piano yet. Yeah, I want to play basketball. I 710 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 4: wasn't serious. 711 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 3: How old were you when you got serious about piano? 712 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 4: When I got serious, uh, I was in like tenth 713 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 4: grade when I was like, all right, good night, but 714 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 4: I was playing the church and stuff I was playing. 715 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 4: I started playing the Church. I literally started playing cando. 716 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 3: My mom was. My mom was the musa. 717 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 4: Director at church, and she sang in clubs all through 718 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 4: the week, like of like R and B gaigs and 719 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 4: stuff like that. She was literally like WHOOPI Goldberg my 720 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 4: sister at all that. And then on Sundays did she 721 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 4: have a group. Yes, her and my stepdad had the group. 722 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 4: They were literally like seafists and recip ex absolutely hilarious. 723 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 4: Oh wow, the early eighties, the curls, the colors so 724 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 4: for real. But but but on Sundays my mom was 725 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 4: in minister of music. I had a small church, you know, 726 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 4: so they allowed me to play the little broke ass 727 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 4: organ that was in the corner. So I used to 728 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 4: play every Sunday the pastor whose birthday is it? And 729 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 4: when I was eleven, I was playing with one finger, 730 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 4: happy birthday. I figured out how happy birthday with one finger. 731 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 4: And then they just let me every Sunday, just let 732 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 4: me sit there and to figure the service out. I 733 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 4: started playing Luther Van songs with one finger because my 734 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 4: dad played with the bandjoff to the house every day. 735 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: All the time. And so I was learning all. 736 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 4: That kind of songs and just and then I just 737 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 4: I really taught. I really taught myself. Yeah, and then 738 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 4: I just you know, and then at age like yeah, 739 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:12,479 Speaker 4: maybe age fourteen, that's when I know what's tenth tenth grade, 740 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 4: I don't know, tenth grade is whatever I auditioned with. 741 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 4: I auditioned with three gospel songsu I didn't know any 742 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 4: jazz tuns. So there was no guidance. 743 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 5: But up from beginnings of church to the fifteen there 744 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 5: was nobody got no guidance, nobody to say, but this 745 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 5: is how you really do this? 746 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 4: Well, See, my mom had a band, and in her 747 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 4: band there was a piano piano player, naed Alan Mosley 748 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 4: that nobody knows, one of them cats from your hometown. 749 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 3: That was drunk but was really good. And you know 750 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 3: he's a legend. You never see him. 751 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 4: So I used to sit next to him on the 752 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 4: piano eventure and they would have rehearsals because we had 753 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 4: rehearsals at our crib. We had pianos and a have 754 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 4: rehearsals the cribs. I would sit there and watch them. 755 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 4: So the only song I played at my audition that 756 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 4: was jazzy was he taught me how to play the 757 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 4: Spider Man theme in in in the form of a 758 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 4: seam mind of blues. So he taught me how to 759 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 4: walk the baseline boom boom boom boom boo boom. 760 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 3: Boom boo boom. 761 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 4: So that's what I did that and I did three 762 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 4: gospel songs and then I. 763 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 3: Got in Wait. 764 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 13: Speaking of which, wait, Robert, you remember that time I 765 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 13: bet you that you wouldn't ah man, this is this 766 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 13: is the most the most devastating gig of my life 767 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 13: was Robert. 768 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 3: As a joke. 769 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: You know, I think Robert says, I'm gonna sneak the 770 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: Smurts theme into this jay Z song, all right. 771 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 2: So it was one of them. 772 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 3: This is one of them. It was all right. 773 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: So me and Robert Glasper were we were like, uh, 774 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: paying tribute to jay Z at one of these like 775 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 1: you know, twenty five thousand dollars plate banquet spots. And 776 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: at the last minute I told Glassper, I said, yo, like, 777 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, do something like really uh, you know, a 778 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: high class for these people, like, you know, make it 779 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: sound like classical stuff. And he gets at the piano 780 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: and starts off like you know, you know, like Alicia 781 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: Keys first came out playing for a lease. 782 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 3: You think of like some deep ship. So Robert goes. 783 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 1: And the audience like Mariah Carey, Yoka Owner, Everyone's looking, 784 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, this motherfucker starts playing the Spurson. 785 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 4: I Love you, Michaelphone. 786 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 3: I was like, mother fuck, are you playing the smurs 787 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 3: right now? 788 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 4: But then when we got up. 789 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 3: It went downhill from there because then Tarik forgot all 790 00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 3: jay Z's lyrics in front of jay Z. Yes, yes, 791 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 3: man words gig. 792 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 4: Ever, but I remember when we got to stage, y'all 793 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 4: go on the on your shoe. She came to She 794 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 4: just threw up and just fell on me like a 795 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 4: hug and fell up with me. She was like, yo, 796 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 4: goa on her or. 797 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 3: Her sister threw up on somebody's shoes, and YO. 798 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: About that gig, bro, that's. 799 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 9: Like one of y'all like a George Clinton story. 800 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 5: Y'all make sure I remember that. 801 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: James just signed to the label. I thought he was 802 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: about to get dropped all of that, calling me and like, 803 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: how could you guys forget his music? Everyone knows the song? 804 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 4: Right? 805 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: Were you? 806 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 5: Were you always this person? Like in school too? Were 807 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 5: like were you always funny? And like, you know, outgoing 808 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 5: or whatnot? Where that is that the same you always? 809 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 3: I was a kid that I had to sit out 810 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 3: in the hallway. 811 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wass that was me? 812 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 3: That was me the whole all the time. Yeah. 813 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 4: Literally I ran into a girl, dude. Maybe in January, 814 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 4: I don't know, December. I was in Houston. I went 815 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 4: to a I went to a barz and Noble. Ran 816 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 4: into an elementary school friend of mine I met and 817 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 4: we were in the same play. We played Hunky Huckyberry 818 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 4: Finn play. I played Hunkerberry Finn. 819 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 820 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 4: In fifth grade. That was my debut on stage. That's 821 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 4: the only thing I've ever done acting. I played Tom 822 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 4: Tom Sawyer. Tom Sawyer was an Indian dude. We're we're 823 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 4: ahead of our time. We were out there. Oh wow, 824 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 4: first of my look and I met this I saw 825 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 4: this girl. She looked at me. Oh my god, Robert. 826 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 4: Soon I saw her. I was like the pig, that's 827 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 4: what I She was big in the play. She looked 828 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 4: exactly the same, exactly, and she was like, Oh my god, 829 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 4: you still haven't changed since you were in fourth grade. 830 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 4: This is so crazy. 831 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 3: I was like, Damn, I have it. 832 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 4: I literally haven't wait. 833 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 3: Question. Was Chris at your school as well? Chris Dave? 834 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 3: I don't know how old Chris is. 835 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,280 Speaker 4: Chris, he's ninety eight, but he's like ninety he's ninety two. Chris, 836 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 4: he's supposed to be as good as he as he's 837 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 4: one hundred and thirteen. Chris, Yo, ch God, damn like no, 838 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 4: Chris went. Chris graduated from PBA in nineteen ninety. 839 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 3: Chris is my age. 840 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 4: Chris is like Chris is like forty is he is 841 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 4: he forty seven? 842 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 3: Forty eight? Got yo? Because his voice make you think 843 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 3: that he's he. 844 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 4: Keeps bring a prodigy because you keep thinking he's the 845 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 4: little kid. It's old as fuck. I hear you're like this, 846 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,720 Speaker 4: but thirteen year olds amazing, how did you do that? No, so, Chris, 847 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 4: we know. So Chris, there was a drummer named Mark 848 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 4: Simmons before you, you know Mark, Mark Simmons. No, okay, 849 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 4: so Mark Simmons was probably the beginning. No, before Mark Simmons, 850 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 4: there was something the lineage of drummers at the school. 851 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 4: There was a what's the fucking dude that played with 852 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 4: Tyer Power anyway. 853 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 3: Power drummers? 854 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 4: Uh, fucking Dave Gi No, not the famous one, the 855 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 4: other guy. Maybe he did some tours never mind, yeah him. 856 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 4: After that, After that there was Mark Simmons. Mark Simmons. 857 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 4: If you ever saw in the last twenty years or whatever, 858 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 4: Algio or fucking George Benson, he was on drums. He's 859 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 4: the guy that was elect maybe a year or two 860 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 4: order than Chris. That made Chris like really shed because 861 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 4: he did something to Chris in high school really bad. 862 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 4: So Chris was mad at him. He had a been 863 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 4: debta against him the whole time. So Chris under Chris's ass. 864 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 4: That's what lit a fire have do with the girl 865 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 4: that made Chris go in the practice room and never 866 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 4: come out. That's the story. All my friends that are 867 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 4: around that time tell that story. They were like, yo, 868 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 4: he went to practice with and then come out practice room. 869 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 4: So and there was Eric Harlan after Chris. They went 870 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 4: together around the same time. Maybe Chris is a senior, 871 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 4: Maybe Eric was, you know, a sophomore or something or 872 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 4: a freshman. 873 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 3: Uh. 874 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 4: After that, then there was Kendrick Scott and then Jamiah 875 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 4: you know, Jamiah Williams. 876 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jamayer. 877 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're still putting out some great motherfucker. James Francis, 878 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 4: you know he's he's up there. Francis from Alston. His 879 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 4: parents used to drop him off when I would do 880 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 4: gigs in Houston. James used to do His parents used 881 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 4: to drop him off at my sound checks so he 882 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 4: could watch a soundcheck because he was too young to 883 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 4: come for the show. 884 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 3: So I used to let him sit. 885 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,320 Speaker 4: Like right by me and stuff and watch my soundchecks 886 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 4: because he wasn't allowed to. 887 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:09,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 888 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 4: So when he got to New York. Yeah, when he 889 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 4: got to New York, I told I called poister. I 890 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 4: was like, yo, okay, your recommendation, I see. Yeah. 891 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 892 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: Whenever whenever James or Ray angry or come on, I 893 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: can't do the Tonight show that James Francis. Yeah, I 894 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: mean he was young boy back then, but now you 895 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,760 Speaker 1: know he's one of his own gigs at Blue Note, 896 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: you know. 897 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that sort of thing. I used to sneak 898 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 3: him in the brook Brooklyn Bowl. Now, you know, I need. 899 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,479 Speaker 1: To say, like I went to school with like these 900 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: young lions, Like when I was in school, like my 901 00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 1: third day of school, Di Francesco is getting pulled out 902 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: by Miles Davis because like it'll be like, who was 903 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 1: Miles's keyboard play? 904 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 3: Was it Kenny Kirkland? 905 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 6: No? 906 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 3: Uh, which year before he passed away, like eighty six 907 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,479 Speaker 3: doing the tow To era. 908 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 4: I think one of those guys wasn't Kenny the definitely 909 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 4: one Kenny Kurt Okay. 910 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 1: I forget it was, but you know I'll be like, yo, 911 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: where are you going? And he'd be like, now it's 912 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: sucking up again. So Miles is sending for me. I 913 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 1: mean there's a typical that likes you know, Elis Marcellus 914 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: come and take Christian Al school. 915 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 3: For two weeks. 916 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: You know, so like basically they were they were the 917 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: young lions of my generation. But the thing was is 918 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: that they were following traditional jazz right And obviously, I 919 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 1: guess my introduction to. 920 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 3: Your world was via Balau. 921 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:04,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, and hearing Bloud break every rule 922 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: of what song structure was, and I'm wondering, well, okay, 923 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: and I asked. I was like, well, who's the who's 924 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: the music version of you? Like who else is breaking 925 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,720 Speaker 1: the rules? And then I met all of you guys 926 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:25,240 Speaker 1: in a month or so, and I just never seen 927 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 1: because I knew you guys were seen as jazz musicians. 928 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: But I was always wondering if whether or not you 929 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,439 Speaker 1: get embraced by the jazz community, like would they let 930 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,720 Speaker 1: you play in reindeer games? Because you guys were looking 931 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: at the rule books and sort of just throwing it 932 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: out the window, like. 933 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 3: Did you have to master it? 934 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,800 Speaker 1: Like did you have to sneak in the house first 935 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: and sort of talk their language and d and then 936 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 1: hold them hostage once you at your power? 937 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 3: Like about that process. 938 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 4: And you do that to that I'll tell you why. 939 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 4: I'll tell you why because when I got to the 940 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 4: New School in ninety seven for college, Yeah, I met 941 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 4: Balal the first day of school. And we were like 942 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 4: one of eight black people at the school, at the 943 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 4: New School, at the New School, like in the jazz program. Yeah, 944 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 4: what a lot of black people. Maybe exaggerating, maybe they 945 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 4: were fifteen honestly, yeah, opposition to everybody was black. Yeah, 946 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 4: so check it out. 947 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 2: Though. 948 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 4: They put out a freshman in the room and they 949 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 4: called you at random to come on the stage. They 950 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 4: called me and Balao on stage at random together to 951 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:41,720 Speaker 4: play a song together. 952 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,280 Speaker 2: Wow, don't tell you what to play is just whatever, 953 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 2: y'all know. 954 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 4: You go there with a bunch of cat They called 955 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 4: on drum, so and so on piano, Robert Glass, room vocal, 956 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,840 Speaker 4: Balo Oliver. We get up to play the song, we 957 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 4: got off the stage. We looked at each other like, yeah, 958 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 4: well do they give you a fake book? At least 959 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,320 Speaker 4: they're like what do you no, you just call tunes 960 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 4: nopeposed to it? Yeah, Or you talk to each other 961 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 4: and be like, you know this, now you know this, 962 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 4: I don't know kind of you know, just like like 963 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 4: you do at a jazz club. 964 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 3: Now you know so and so. I think, so you 965 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 3: figure it. 966 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 4: Out, but whatever, remember what it was. I have no 967 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,360 Speaker 4: idea what it was. But when we got off me 968 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 4: and we we were you know, you couldn't separate us 969 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,240 Speaker 4: after that because it was like, you know, he spoke 970 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 4: a different language immediately, And so we began working on 971 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 4: stuff together and one of the president of the school 972 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 4: at the time, Arnie Lawrence, he passed away. He saw 973 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 4: us and was like, you two have something. Y'all should 974 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 4: go in and work on a demo for Balave and 975 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 4: we were like, okay. So he said, my friend has 976 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 4: a studio around the corner. Y'all can I talked to 977 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 4: him already, y'all can go over there and kind of 978 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 4: come up with some stuff. And his boy was Aaron 979 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,800 Speaker 4: colemas As spend doctors. 980 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 3: Fucking spin doctors. They believe this story. 981 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: When told me, I'm like, who were doing this? 982 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 4: And I was like what, Yeah. So we were going 983 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 4: over there after school every day just writing songs and yeah, 984 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 4: a bunch of just jazz music is are on the 985 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 4: album because we didn't know anybody that played anything else. 986 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 4: We just knew the cats from the school. So that 987 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 4: was Queen of Sanity the demo. Yeah, yes, Penny Sanity. Yeah, 988 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 4: and y'all came just right. You and James came in 989 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,760 Speaker 4: there and redid it. Yeah, we did the drums. 990 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was essentially when I when I heard that demo, Man, 991 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 1: I you know again, I'm I'm happy to say. 992 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:48,720 Speaker 14: That my my my one record of the six demos 993 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 14: I ever heard and listened to and became fans of, 994 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 14: like they all became like something in the world of course, 995 00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 14: you know, Little Brothers, Jill Scott, Slum Village. 996 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: But hearing that BELOWD demo, I don't know how it 997 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 1: came across. I don't know who played it for me whatever, 998 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: but I just I thought, this person. 999 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:19,720 Speaker 9: I remember you being about. 1000 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 3: Yeah much much of my detriment. 1001 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: If there's ever a recapping of the kind of Black 1002 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:33,240 Speaker 1: Lily Roots Jam session story like in oral history or whatever, uh, 1003 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 1: my enthusiasm for wanting to work with Blaw definitely made 1004 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 1: Moan to Fuckers feel a certain way where because I 1005 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,439 Speaker 1: mean basically every everyone had a job at this thing, 1006 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 1: and it was more like, Okay, I'm the money, you know, 1007 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,840 Speaker 1: like so tour money back to the system, back to 1008 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 1: the you know, and I would make appearances every now 1009 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 1: and then, but it's like after working on you know, 1010 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 1: the stuff an Electric Lady and then coming back to 1011 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,320 Speaker 1: do root stuff like I wasn't trying to like also 1012 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,280 Speaker 1: do five hours at these jam sessions. 1013 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 3: But here in below sing man, I was just like, 1014 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 3: all right, I'll come. Yeah, yeah, so you know, just. 1015 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 4: Ye and those those jam sessions so blow. So we 1016 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 4: started working on the demo whatever, and me and him 1017 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 4: used to get on a bus from school and go 1018 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 4: down to Philly on Monday and Monday nights to the 1019 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,880 Speaker 4: five spot Tuesdayesday, Tuesday, we should go to the bus 1020 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 4: and go we go stay at his mom's house in Germantown. 1021 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 4: That was my first times ever going to Philly. Just 1022 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 4: a week go to those jam sessions. And then y'all 1023 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,359 Speaker 4: started coming to doing the ones at Lake Street. 1024 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 1: Yeah on a at uh which the theme is the 1025 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,720 Speaker 1: spot uh Wetlands Wetlands. 1026 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,439 Speaker 4: So seeing y'all play live. But I was always trying 1027 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 4: to get me to understand how to play y'all ship, 1028 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 4: and I didn't understand what the fuck he was talking about. 1029 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 4: He's like, you no, like you know, like, don't play 1030 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 4: it on, play it off? What like you know how 1031 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 4: to play, but you don't know how to play. What 1032 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 4: the are you talking about? No, nigga like like, and 1033 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,320 Speaker 4: then I saw y'all live. And I saw James Poyser 1034 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 4: and I was like, so that made me. I kept 1035 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 4: going back, and then he would let me sit in 1036 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 4: with you. Yo, you would let me sit in you know. 1037 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 4: I was like, I was like, oh, I was jazz 1038 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 4: bread and I would sit in with y'all. And because 1039 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 4: of sitting in with you with the roots, that's how 1040 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 4: I learned how to play that ship. I didn't I 1041 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 4: never heard it. I didn't understand what it was. 1042 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 1: That's so weird to me because in my mind, you 1043 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:43,720 Speaker 1: and all your Hustonians just have another relationship with time, 1044 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:50,359 Speaker 1: with with meter in time that is beyond anything I've 1045 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 1: done or you know, dare I say at Dyla or whatever, 1046 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 1: like I I just I'd never seen. I mean, it's 1047 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: like watching the animaniacs in the water tower, Like you 1048 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,840 Speaker 1: know when you see them running and help the smooth. 1049 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 1: That's a crazy analogy, like. 1050 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 3: That's what I mean. 1051 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,440 Speaker 1: Like, but what I want to know is how did 1052 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: you force the jazz world to your will? Because I 1053 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 1: don't think that's I don't think that's an easy it's 1054 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 1: not task like that's that's what. 1055 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,399 Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing I always knew that I had 1056 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 4: to make sure that I could play jazz with the 1057 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 4: best of them before I decided to do anything else, 1058 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 1059 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 3: I had to Like. 1060 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,919 Speaker 4: When Herbie played with Miles put his first few albums out, 1061 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,760 Speaker 4: there was no you couldn't question Herb about ship, about 1062 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,439 Speaker 4: can you play that? All that? That was always Soil five. 1063 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 4: There's no argument there. So when he did Headhunters, you 1064 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 4: cannot like it if you want to, but you can't 1065 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 4: dispute him as a jazz artist, you know what I mean, 1066 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 4: as a jazz piano player, especially being black, they're so 1067 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,360 Speaker 4: quick to want to call you a hip hop piano 1068 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 4: player or R and B player. They're really quick to 1069 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 4: not want to give you the title of that. So 1070 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 4: it was it was in my mind I was like, 1071 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,319 Speaker 4: well no, even when I before I got signed, I said, 1072 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 4: in my mind I knew I was I want to 1073 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,960 Speaker 4: do a few jazz albums first to shut these motherfuckers 1074 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,839 Speaker 4: up who are gonna be talking? And then I want 1075 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,359 Speaker 4: to do my other ship. 1076 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 3: You know. 1077 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 10: It was almost like it reminded me of like the 1078 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 10: like Donald Bird. That's how I always kind of saw 1079 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 10: your career is like, yeah, Donald Bird, But then you know, 1080 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 10: he did his thing, but then when he got with 1081 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:39,800 Speaker 10: the Moselle Brothers, Yep, it just became you know something. 1082 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, exactly exactly, and that's my thing. I 1083 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 4: wanted to make sure. So then when that happened, my 1084 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 4: thing was just grabbing all the young people because I 1085 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 4: felt like jazz for young people anymore. And what made 1086 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 4: what made me get into jazz was Roy. Roy came 1087 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 4: to my Roy Roy came to my school and when 1088 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 4: I was in eleventh grade, I'll never forget it. He 1089 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,359 Speaker 4: went there too, right, No, he went to the one, 1090 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 4: and he in Dallas with Erica. He went to the 1091 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 4: He went to Washington, Yeah, Norah Jones and the whole thing. 1092 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 4: So that was our rival. We rivaled them off time 1093 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 4: for all state jazz competitions and shit. So when Roy 1094 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 4: came to our school when I was in eleventh grade, 1095 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 4: he was already Warhard Grove album. So he came to 1096 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 4: the school and he had on like overalls and Tim's 1097 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,320 Speaker 4: you know, and his band was black. 1098 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 3: I never seen that. 1099 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 4: I've never seen five young black guys that looked like me, 1100 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,240 Speaker 4: dressed like me, talk like me up there playing jazz. 1101 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 3: That's never you never seen that. 1102 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 4: Because when you're in school, the pictures of jazz is 1103 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,479 Speaker 4: what they give you, and it's all in black and white, 1104 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 4: and it's everybody has them a suit and it's not 1105 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 4: you know, it's nothing. It's nothing that has anything to 1106 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:53,800 Speaker 4: do with you right now. 1107 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 3: You know. 1108 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,799 Speaker 4: So Roy made he completely changed my whole ship. So 1109 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 4: that's literally why I am the way I am now 1110 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 4: because I feel like I'm killing the stereotype, you know 1111 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 4: what I mean. I feel like when people look at 1112 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 4: me a lot of times, they don't know they you 1113 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 4: don't know what the fuck I do, you know what 1114 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 4: I mean? And when I was, you know, selling out 1115 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 4: the Blue Note and the Vanguard and all these places, 1116 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 4: white people will walk by me. I would be outside 1117 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 4: hang on my friend. They walk by me looking at 1118 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 4: me like what are you doing here? I'm like, well, 1119 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 4: actually come out right, you know. But them people on 1120 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 4: the bus, and a lot of that is like, you know, 1121 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,520 Speaker 4: they don't know. They come to New York and get 1122 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 4: on the bus and they take you to where somebody 1123 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 4: famous is playing, you know what I mean. But they 1124 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 4: look at me and my je's and my T shirt 1125 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,920 Speaker 4: and it's like, oh, we if I was walking down 1126 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 4: the street you think I'm a rapper or you think 1127 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 4: I'm whatever. 1128 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:38,040 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1129 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 4: Don't think I'm about to hear and play still up 1130 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 4: by Starlight or actually play this piano the way I do, 1131 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And that's what I got, 1132 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 4: literally got that from Roy and that's what made kids. 1133 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 4: He inspired me so much because he looked like me. 1134 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 4: So I was like, that's what I want to do, 1135 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, I want to inspire the 1136 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 4: young cat. So I think when it came to the 1137 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 4: jazz world, I just ignored them and really went for 1138 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 4: the young people, you know what I mean, but still 1139 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 4: keeping the integrity of jazz, but making it to something 1140 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 4: where they could identify with, you know what I mean. 1141 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,120 Speaker 4: And that's a while the Jazz war couldn't deny it anymore. 1142 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 4: They tried to. 1143 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 10: I think you have to do that though, because I think, 1144 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 10: you know, even like in all forms of music, you 1145 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 10: have to kind of, if not necessarily, appeal to the 1146 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:19,960 Speaker 10: young people. You at least have to know how to 1147 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 10: communicate with them because they're the ones that's coming next. 1148 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 10: So if you want your thing to live on, you 1149 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 10: gotta get the youngins so they can be it on, 1150 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 10: you know what I mean. 1151 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 6: Rapper in that conversation to like in a way where 1152 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 6: like his projects. 1153 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 3: I was going to ask kind I was going to ask. 1154 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 1: There was the jazz police of likeuch, when Marcella's all 1155 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 1: these cats, is there such thing as the jazz police? 1156 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 3: Like there's still people. 1157 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 4: Himself? Guy, Oh, that's okay, nigga. 1158 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:07,440 Speaker 2: Jazz police. 1159 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 4: Oh, y'all didn't see it. Y'all didn't y'all didn't see it. 1160 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 2: Right years ago, Branford. 1161 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 4: Turncoat on you, nigga hold on, Branford, put put me out. Look, 1162 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 4: this happened maybe two years two years ago, maybe three 1163 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,160 Speaker 4: years ago. Two years ago he did a uh he 1164 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,479 Speaker 4: did an interview for one of them jazz magazine, maybe 1165 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 4: down Beat or something like that, And in the middle 1166 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 4: of the interview, they were like, so, Branford, what do 1167 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 4: you think about what people like Robert Glasper and Camassie 1168 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 4: Washington are doing? You know you did, but shot Lafunk. 1169 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 4: What do you think about Robert Glasper's doing? He said, well, 1170 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 4: you know, Jack Camosi, he's not a jazz he's not 1171 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 4: a jazz saxophone player. Just do him all the way over. 1172 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 4: Then he said and Robert. I mean, I'm glad he's 1173 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 4: doing what he's doing because he's he has delimited jazz 1174 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 4: vocabulary also, and then you ask him, he'll tell you 1175 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 4: the same thing. Those were literally his words, SI, Robert. 1176 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 3: Do you have a limited jazz? 1177 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 4: Like? 1178 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 1: What? 1179 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 3: Who? 1180 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:16,640 Speaker 9: Heartbroken? 1181 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 4: What are you talking about? 1182 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:20,840 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? 1183 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 9: Do you not know who you are? 1184 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 3: So? 1185 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 10: So for the listener, if you have a limited jazz vocabulary, 1186 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 10: who hasn't unlimited? 1187 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 4: Who is that? 1188 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:32,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1189 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 4: That was like, come on bro, like that now you're now? 1190 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 4: That was that was That's reckless. That's reckless. That's like 1191 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,920 Speaker 4: you know he they didn't even ask him that. That 1192 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 4: wasn't even the question. He didn't ask do you think 1193 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 4: they're jazz musicians? Or do you think what they're doing jazz? 1194 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 4: They said you did bust shot lafunk. So they were 1195 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 4: literally speaking to crossing over ye And he took that time, 1196 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 4: took that little platform to put us down. Instead of 1197 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 4: being I'm like, oh well, ship Robert Glass with Black Radio. 1198 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 4: That's doing that's great. I'm happy, but something used to 1199 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 4: don't use that platform to shoot down the two top 1200 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 4: black instrumental jazz musicians that you know what I mean, 1201 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 4: why would you do that? 1202 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 1: Come on, brove, Frank McCombe, what do you think is required? 1203 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 3: I mean, you know every genre has there and they 1204 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 3: were disrespecting Branford. You know, just there's always the grumpy will. 1205 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 4: Go out Branford. 1206 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 3: I know he did that. 1207 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 2: I love him, y'all. Have you have you seen him? 1208 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 2: Y'all ran into each other. 1209 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,720 Speaker 4: No, but before he said that, I ran to him 1210 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 4: at the club. But we had dreams he was playing. 1211 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 4: I went to see him play. I had had a 1212 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 4: night off in Seattle. He was playing. Me and Chris 1213 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 4: and a few other people went down there hung out. 1214 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 4: I'll always shown Brandford love. He's always actually shown him. 1215 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:49,880 Speaker 4: We've been cool every time I see him. You know 1216 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But I just felt like, why not. 1217 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 2: If you was gonna say that, you could have said 1218 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 2: that to my face. 1219 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,840 Speaker 4: You could have been said that to my face, bro 1220 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,040 Speaker 4: no matter. In fact, I saw him at International Jazz Day. 1221 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 4: I saw me the National Jazz Day in Russia maybe 1222 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 4: two years ago something, and that, oh you know what, 1223 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:09,360 Speaker 4: and we had a little oh you know, it's. 1224 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 15: All coming the National Jazz you know, you know that 1225 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,320 Speaker 15: is like they they bring in a bunch of jazz 1226 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 15: musicians and and and they put it. 1227 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,640 Speaker 4: They put you in a different country every year and 1228 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 4: to promote jazz, you know, and you do a concert 1229 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 4: together and they break you up a little groups and 1230 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 4: you do like one song. So we did the International 1231 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 4: Jazz Day thing and me and Brandford backstage is somebody 1232 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,919 Speaker 4: came up and was like, so, what do y'all think? 1233 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:44,040 Speaker 4: What makes jazz jazz? And we're talking about it, you know, 1234 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 4: and Brandford said, the space between the quarter notes. Okay, 1235 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,919 Speaker 4: I was like, before it sounds what do you mean 1236 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 4: the space between the like literally the space between the 1237 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 4: quarter notes, like the space between us. So I was 1238 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 4: like the space between the court. So literally it's a 1239 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,120 Speaker 4: mathematical thing, like if you do this space with this 1240 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 4: space recording, does that's We kind of got into a 1241 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 4: think about it because the answer he gave was like, 1242 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 4: come on, bro, like it sounds it sounded like witting. 1243 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 4: I mean, no one has the true aunt like the no, 1244 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:21,480 Speaker 4: we don't. 1245 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 1: But there's nerds like me that wanted a scientific definition, 1246 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 1: and there's creatives like you that you know that will 1247 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 1: never have the right answer or whatever, Like I don't 1248 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 1: think any creative truly knows what the definition of what 1249 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 1: makes their art form tick. 1250 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:39,120 Speaker 2: You know, yeah. 1251 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,080 Speaker 4: Right, But then but we're having to just a discussion 1252 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 4: and I'm like, yo, we start talking about tunes. I said, 1253 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 4: so because this is not swing. We're talking about talking 1254 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,680 Speaker 4: aout yet symbol everything. And it was like, so you're 1255 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,840 Speaker 4: you're you're now defining a whole genre by a rhythm. 1256 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 4: So because it doesn't ting to day and ten today, 1257 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 4: it's not jazz. So what's red clay And he was like, 1258 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,960 Speaker 4: not jazz, right, I said, so red Clayga. 1259 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 3: So this is this is trapped versus real hip hop. 1260 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 1: I get this, this is versus This is a long argument, right, 1261 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:11,240 Speaker 1: I get it. 1262 01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,080 Speaker 3: I get it for everybody. 1263 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 4: But for somebody who made by some of the funk, 1264 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 4: I just suspected something different. I expect a different answer. 1265 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:22,480 Speaker 4: I just expect a different answer. 1266 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,280 Speaker 2: But that was But again, that was twenty six years ago. 1267 01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 4: That was And look, even though Winton went and innovated 1268 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,080 Speaker 4: the music and then stopped, he did Black Codes and 1269 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:36,440 Speaker 4: then stopped. Black Holds is such an innovative record. You know, 1270 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:40,000 Speaker 4: Black Codes from the Underground, Black Codes from the Underground. Bro, 1271 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 4: It's like absolutely fucking incredible. You know, one of my 1272 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 4: favorite records of this absolutely absolutely you know, uh went 1273 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,280 Speaker 4: and called me go ahead. 1274 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 3: Oh wait, go ahead, go back to that because he calls. 1275 01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 4: You remember the whole nother ram. I don't know if 1276 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,320 Speaker 4: you want to step into it, because now we want 1277 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,120 Speaker 4: to know because it was because of the Lord Hill stuff. 1278 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 2: Come on, come on with the smoke. 1279 01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:14,920 Speaker 4: No went and called me. I was in Japan and 1280 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,720 Speaker 4: never forget it. He called. He texted me and was like, Yo, 1281 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,440 Speaker 4: is this Robert Glaswar. I was like, yeah, who's this? 1282 01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 4: He was like this went and I was like, oh, ship, 1283 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 4: what's up? 1284 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:24,280 Speaker 3: How you doing? 1285 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:24,480 Speaker 1: Man? 1286 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,480 Speaker 4: It's like, hey man, you know, I just wanted to 1287 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 4: call and tell you, you know, let this Lauryn Hill ship go. 1288 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,640 Speaker 3: And I was like that's his first words to you. 1289 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 4: Ever, yes, you ain't going next ever on the phone. 1290 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:37,920 Speaker 4: We don't talk on the phone. I don't talk to 1291 01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,520 Speaker 4: me on the phone. You know in. 1292 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:47,000 Speaker 10: Japan, this ship is costing me extra money. 1293 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,400 Speaker 2: Facing my dad and talk to me about this ship. 1294 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,480 Speaker 4: He's like, let this Lauryn Hill shit go. First of all, 1295 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,800 Speaker 4: I never drug it on. I said I did that 1296 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 4: ready interview, and I never posted about it. I never 1297 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,880 Speaker 4: said anything about it ever again online. You know what 1298 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,640 Speaker 4: I'm saying. That READI to interview posted and I didn't 1299 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 4: put sh it on my I G. I didn't even 1300 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,600 Speaker 4: put that radio on my face. But nothing. So he 1301 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 4: hit me with that let this go. And I was like, well, 1302 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 4: I'm not doing anything, but you know, the truth is 1303 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:10,480 Speaker 4: the truth. 1304 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 3: I don't really know what you want me to do. 1305 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,200 Speaker 4: He was just like, man, you know she's got all 1306 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 4: these followers and stuff, and you know you're not gonna 1307 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,560 Speaker 4: win that battle, and I just think it's best if 1308 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:18,960 Speaker 4: you just battle. 1309 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 2: I'm not battling. 1310 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:26,080 Speaker 1: Wait, you're missing the most important part. When Marcellus knows 1311 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:26,800 Speaker 1: who Lauren. 1312 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:35,600 Speaker 9: Hill is what, Yeah, hairs as a whole other level too. 1313 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,360 Speaker 2: You sall seven millionaires niggas. 1314 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,680 Speaker 4: Know who to definitely dude, dude, first of all, Yeah, 1315 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 4: this lord, I never thought when left this jazz bubble. 1316 01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,920 Speaker 4: I know, I know, but that those things to bring up, 1317 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,880 Speaker 4: that's crazy. That's what he texted me about our first 1318 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 4: text and only text to this day. 1319 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,240 Speaker 9: Congratulations on you know. 1320 01:06:59,640 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 3: Your word? 1321 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:00,480 Speaker 12: Uh? 1322 01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 4: I told him, I said, but every time I saw him, 1323 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,440 Speaker 4: every time I see him in person, and honestly, when 1324 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 4: I go see him play. He invites me up to play. 1325 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,120 Speaker 4: He calls me up on stage and ship, you know 1326 01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:13,840 Speaker 4: what I mean. So I don't have a beef for 1327 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:15,640 Speaker 4: no real beef. Win you know, some of the things 1328 01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 4: he says. It's like, come on, bro, you know, but 1329 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,400 Speaker 4: he's fine. It's fine. And he's never thrown me under 1330 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,600 Speaker 4: the bus in some interview, you know, or tried to 1331 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,920 Speaker 4: do anything malicious, but you know, so we were texted 1332 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,720 Speaker 4: about that, and then finally I was like, Yo, every 1333 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 4: time I see him, I say, I'm gonna get you 1334 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,840 Speaker 4: on some hip hop ship. He was like, oh, bro, 1335 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,080 Speaker 4: you know, I'm gonna just deal with the swing. I 1336 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,840 Speaker 4: ain't down with the bitches and the niggas. And I 1337 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 4: was like, I said that, that's what I said. I said, Bro, 1338 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,880 Speaker 4: all hip hop isn't like that. That's one little second 1339 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,800 Speaker 4: him different styles of jazz. There's different kinds. And I say, 1340 01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,720 Speaker 4: if you ever checked out anything I've done, you don't 1341 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,360 Speaker 4: hear that. He was like, you know, well, I don't know. 1342 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,480 Speaker 4: We'll we'll, we'll see. But he always says that every 1343 01:07:55,520 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 4: time I see him, he's the great. It's like, come on, bro, 1344 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:04,400 Speaker 4: that's not Yeah. 1345 01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,080 Speaker 5: It's so crazy when at one point you was a 1346 01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,040 Speaker 5: young dude like and Jack. Jazz beats are so funny 1347 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,160 Speaker 5: to me. They've been happening for like just the beginning. 1348 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,720 Speaker 2: It's just have you, have you? And have you and 1349 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:20,760 Speaker 2: Lauren ever talked after that? Since posting black Radio, you know. 1350 01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:25,040 Speaker 4: Right, well you do it. Look but look hold on. 1351 01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,280 Speaker 1: And let me on that song so I can also 1352 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 1: ouve branch that moment to too. 1353 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 9: Yeah you got it, you got a men. 1354 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:36,160 Speaker 4: You health feed the fire, Robert Glass, But Patty Beef, 1355 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,400 Speaker 4: Patty Chef, you changed your Twitter your Twitter handle to 1356 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:43,680 Speaker 4: Robert Glass Beef Patty Chefs. 1357 01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,519 Speaker 9: No healing, It's no healing, It's no The shocker is. 1358 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:54,559 Speaker 3: A way Marcel Lauren Hill. Lauren Hill known social media Twitter. 1359 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:55,439 Speaker 3: This is a great day. 1360 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:59,040 Speaker 4: Look Ilmosa saw her at at uh what is the 1361 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:06,679 Speaker 4: North Seat Jazz Festival. I literally was sitting outside and 1362 01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,919 Speaker 4: a bus pulled up and it was her tour bus, 1363 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,720 Speaker 4: and all the cats came off like yo, rah blah 1364 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,400 Speaker 4: blah blah. They were like, well, Lauren just got off 1365 01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 4: at the other place. I was like, okay, cool, that 1366 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,519 Speaker 4: would have been amazing if I haven't seen them since then. 1367 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,519 Speaker 4: But my thing is my thing is that you saw 1368 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,960 Speaker 4: her statement she wrote after that, right, it. 1369 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:31,920 Speaker 1: Was so many where it was where emojis in it, 1370 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, emoji's. 1371 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:38,360 Speaker 4: Are shut and honestly, and I didn't know it was 1372 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 4: the twenty when I did that interview. I didn't know 1373 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,680 Speaker 4: what the twentieth anniversary of fucking that the album the 1374 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:48,080 Speaker 4: mis Education, Yes, I mean where the god And I've 1375 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 4: never talked that. My laurn Hill situation happened in two 1376 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,880 Speaker 4: thousand and seven. We did this interview and what two 1377 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:59,000 Speaker 4: thousand and six seven? Yeah, I've never said it out loud. 1378 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,719 Speaker 4: On the interview, they asked me, what's the worst musical 1379 01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:04,760 Speaker 4: experience you've ever had? And that is the first, and 1380 01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,920 Speaker 4: that's the first one that ever comes to mind is 1381 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:08,679 Speaker 4: working with Lauren. 1382 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:09,519 Speaker 3: It was terrible. 1383 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,040 Speaker 6: Poison to the truth, the poison text you. 1384 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,120 Speaker 4: A lot of people text me, yeah, a lot of 1385 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,439 Speaker 4: people text me like thank you, you know, thank you. Ship. 1386 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,200 Speaker 4: We can't I can't say that ship, but thank you. 1387 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:24,720 Speaker 4: A lot of cats was like good looks you know 1388 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:27,200 Speaker 4: some of them cats, you can't. They can't. 1389 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:28,200 Speaker 3: You know, I can say that ship. 1390 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:28,559 Speaker 4: I'm good. 1391 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,760 Speaker 3: Fuck you know, but you know, and. 1392 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,280 Speaker 4: The other cats that she uses in that way don't 1393 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,960 Speaker 4: have the platform and say ship, you know what I mean. 1394 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,439 Speaker 4: So I felt like or the power to sation and 1395 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,400 Speaker 4: my It wasn't me purposely coming at her. It was 1396 01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,160 Speaker 4: just that's what it was. And everything was truth, everything 1397 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,400 Speaker 4: was fat, and everything's still happening, you know what I mean. 1398 01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:47,960 Speaker 2: So it's like. 1399 01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:51,360 Speaker 9: A whole gift to jazz in so many ways. 1400 01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:51,880 Speaker 6: Yo. 1401 01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 4: You well look, I'm here, I'm serious. I thought about 1402 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,400 Speaker 4: this the other day. I was like, wouldn't it be. 1403 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, the government. 1404 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 4: I thought about that though, would if would if we 1405 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:16,760 Speaker 4: got her on Black Radio three. 1406 01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,600 Speaker 1: Look man, it's twenty twenty and we're running out of 1407 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,000 Speaker 1: space on our Bengo cards. 1408 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:23,200 Speaker 4: You produced it? 1409 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:23,839 Speaker 3: What happened? 1410 01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:25,320 Speaker 4: You produce it? 1411 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 3: Listen? That would be crazy, bro, it. 1412 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:29,800 Speaker 9: Was y'all come up with your idea. 1413 01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,640 Speaker 4: I'm down for it, yo, in a silly way, in 1414 01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:36,160 Speaker 4: a silly, weird way. I feel like there's a possibility 1415 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,200 Speaker 4: it could possibly happen. I think it'd be dope. So 1416 01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,120 Speaker 4: because as an artist, I have nothing against her. She's 1417 01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:43,080 Speaker 4: fucking looking credible. 1418 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:44,720 Speaker 9: You might have to extend your due date, but I 1419 01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:45,439 Speaker 9: think it could happen. 1420 01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,160 Speaker 4: That'll be Yeah, it'll definitely. It probably won't come out 1421 01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,760 Speaker 4: to a Black Radio nineteen, but it'll be. 1422 01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:55,640 Speaker 3: Back to the theme of the show and. 1423 01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:05,760 Speaker 5: As you're gonna be tround. 1424 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:10,040 Speaker 4: Renewed optimism. 1425 01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,080 Speaker 9: No, it's gonna get done, noh, mirreor it's gonna get done. 1426 01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,639 Speaker 1: Listen as as a person that believes in manifesting positive 1427 01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,559 Speaker 1: energy and whatnot. 1428 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,519 Speaker 3: Yes, we're gonna make it happen. 1429 01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,200 Speaker 1: I would love it, I will say, Lauren Hill, we 1430 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,679 Speaker 1: are officially putting out the Olive branch. 1431 01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:30,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1432 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,559 Speaker 1: I think the better the world was better with our 1433 01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:38,240 Speaker 1: artistic contributions. It's needed in the world right now. 1434 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,200 Speaker 3: So actually, really is it really is? 1435 01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:45,720 Speaker 2: All right? So questions while we on optimism on the 1436 01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:50,160 Speaker 2: Lauren jail. Yeah, oh, I mean, if I'm still aloud, I. 1437 01:12:53,920 --> 01:13:09,840 Speaker 10: Got sixteen for you. Okay, ask question Brandy, and I 1438 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,479 Speaker 10: want to ask you specifically, what is it like tracking 1439 01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:14,200 Speaker 10: her in the studio, tracking her vocals? 1440 01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:23,000 Speaker 4: Brandy might be the illest tracker I've ever seen. It's incredible, bro, 1441 01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,559 Speaker 4: I've never seen nobody phase himself out. 1442 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,160 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you about that. I saw another interview. 1443 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,719 Speaker 4: Three times in one in in the in the middle 1444 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,160 Speaker 4: of doing optimistic, she phased herself out three times. 1445 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,200 Speaker 3: That's how on top of her vocal she is with. 1446 01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,800 Speaker 4: That's how her vocal she is when she stats her 1447 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:43,320 Speaker 4: ship is so exactly alike that she fakes the computer 1448 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,720 Speaker 4: out and it makes you think you're doing the same 1449 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,040 Speaker 4: the track again or some ship. 1450 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:48,320 Speaker 10: You're not. 1451 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:49,200 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 1452 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,479 Speaker 4: Because most people, when you read, when you sing something 1453 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 4: else and you sing it again, sing it again, let's 1454 01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,160 Speaker 4: stack it, there's always something different. 1455 01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,960 Speaker 2: It's always an imperfection, something and something. 1456 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,639 Speaker 4: She's so dead on that shit. Phased the funk out 1457 01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,639 Speaker 4: three times, from the bread, from the breathing, from when 1458 01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,440 Speaker 4: she cut it off where the vibradis stop like everything 1459 01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,240 Speaker 4: is incredible, and she don't leave the booth to the 1460 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,960 Speaker 4: fucking shit's done. It ain't like she come out and 1461 01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,760 Speaker 4: listen and vibe. She's like no, and she won't stop 1462 01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,040 Speaker 4: with the ideas. You have to stop her. No Brandy, 1463 01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:24,320 Speaker 4: no more vocal, no more stats, no harmony. Yeah, and 1464 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,200 Speaker 4: she wants to get it. She's so enthusiastic about getting 1465 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,479 Speaker 4: it right and just wanting to try more and more ideas. 1466 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:33,960 Speaker 4: She's not a lazy singer at all. You know what 1467 01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,240 Speaker 4: I mean, Like, it's incredible work with her. Man, she 1468 01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,560 Speaker 4: has to be one of the nicest too, you know 1469 01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,800 Speaker 4: what I mean. Like even when I did when she 1470 01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:45,120 Speaker 4: was on my Black Radio album before that, she paid 1471 01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,519 Speaker 4: for the studio time because she was late the other 1472 01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,559 Speaker 4: time or something like that. She couldn't make it, and 1473 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,120 Speaker 4: she was like, yo, she paid for the studio time 1474 01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:53,519 Speaker 4: and she you know what I mean, I didn't even 1475 01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,160 Speaker 4: know where back then. You know, she's just this is 1476 01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:57,679 Speaker 4: such a nice, really really nice person. 1477 01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:02,200 Speaker 10: Black Radio on Black Radio two. Man, you had a record, 1478 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:04,800 Speaker 10: it was. It was a lot of records on the 1479 01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,840 Speaker 10: album I Love. I really loved the Emily Sun Sandy 1480 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,000 Speaker 10: joint that Yeah, I love. 1481 01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:11,799 Speaker 2: That's just a great song. Just the lyrics. 1482 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great, dude. She wrote that ship in twenty minutes. 1483 01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:15,120 Speaker 2: Are you serious? 1484 01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 3: That song? That song? 1485 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:21,799 Speaker 4: Originally Mary J. Blog was supposed to sing it, and whoa, 1486 01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,640 Speaker 4: I had lyrics and everything already done. But getting with 1487 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,519 Speaker 4: Mary just always kept, you know, we couldn't make it happen. 1488 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 4: So I had the lyrics in the song. I even 1489 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,280 Speaker 4: had the song sung by somebody else to you know. 1490 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,519 Speaker 4: Emily was in town and she came by the studio 1491 01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,120 Speaker 4: and I played her the song and she was like, 1492 01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:40,920 Speaker 4: I love it. 1493 01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:41,280 Speaker 3: I love it. 1494 01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,280 Speaker 4: She's like, do you mind if I changed the lyrics? 1495 01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,120 Speaker 4: I was like, no, do what you feel. She got 1496 01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,840 Speaker 4: a pin and pad out, walked around, wrote that joint 1497 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,800 Speaker 4: like twenty minutes bro wow literally and put that ship 1498 01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:56,759 Speaker 4: down the record town for the Great Great Gatsby Premiere 1499 01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:57,240 Speaker 4: some ship. 1500 01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:02,919 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, the record did with the Nora record that Mossino. 1501 01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:04,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that joint. 1502 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:05,040 Speaker 3: Man. 1503 01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:09,200 Speaker 2: How did y'all you and Mossina like seeing the shot baby? 1504 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:14,719 Speaker 10: That's like family? Yeah, and y'all's cover of god Resch 1505 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,880 Speaker 10: you married gentlemen. Oh yeah, I need you to send 1506 01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:18,439 Speaker 10: me that I love. 1507 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:18,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1508 01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,920 Speaker 4: For years I kept doing I would do that with 1509 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,040 Speaker 4: different artists. Every year I was. I would just pick 1510 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:25,880 Speaker 4: an artist, hit them up, like yeah, you want to 1511 01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,080 Speaker 4: do a Christmas song together, you know, and I'll send 1512 01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:30,720 Speaker 4: them the music and then put some on it and 1513 01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,160 Speaker 4: we put it out. I did it with Due Power, 1514 01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,360 Speaker 4: I did it with Keim Bred a few different beatle 1515 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:37,200 Speaker 4: just throw it out, thro it out there for you know, 1516 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,599 Speaker 4: for fun. But that joint, the nor Jones joint. So 1517 01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 4: me and Nora went to jazz camp together in high 1518 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,960 Speaker 4: school in eleventh grade. Matter of fact, I'm here. You 1519 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:48,000 Speaker 4: have something to do with this too. 1520 01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,520 Speaker 3: Wait, I'm a connector. 1521 01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:56,240 Speaker 4: You're a connector. You don't even know it. So uh. 1522 01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,240 Speaker 4: Me and Nor went to high to jazz camp together 1523 01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,840 Speaker 4: in eleventh grade. So that's where I knew her from then. 1524 01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,760 Speaker 4: When I got to New York, I saw her my 1525 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,519 Speaker 4: freshman year at she was at my college in the 1526 01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,439 Speaker 4: practice room at my college, at the piano. 1527 01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,080 Speaker 3: I looked in him there. I was like, nourah and 1528 01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:12,720 Speaker 3: I walked in there. 1529 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,479 Speaker 4: I was like, what are you doing? She's like She's like, oh, 1530 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,360 Speaker 4: I'm working on the demo. I was like, oh dope. 1531 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,040 Speaker 4: Next time I saw her was on TV when of 1532 01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:24,280 Speaker 4: the damn Grammys. After that, After that, I sat in 1533 01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,200 Speaker 4: with the roots at Radio City. Remember you did the 1534 01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:28,599 Speaker 4: two nights at Radio City? 1535 01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,160 Speaker 3: Oh crap, I forgot, dude. 1536 01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,680 Speaker 4: That was one of the when people asked me some 1537 01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:38,200 Speaker 4: of my top moments being on stage of Crazy Ship. 1538 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:40,479 Speaker 3: Oh that's right, we did. 1539 01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:41,839 Speaker 4: Remember when came. 1540 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:46,360 Speaker 3: Yeah j He showed up. 1541 01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:51,840 Speaker 1: He didn't know that he could play Radio City musical dude. 1542 01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:53,519 Speaker 4: Never forget that ship where. 1543 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,200 Speaker 3: Yeah and they got and and I never. 1544 01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,599 Speaker 4: Forget in the in the in theres you like jay 1545 01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:07,720 Speaker 4: Z's here and we did up, we did up boom, Yeah, 1546 01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,880 Speaker 4: we started playing. He walked out and had this back 1547 01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,040 Speaker 4: to the audience to the hoodie young and the lights 1548 01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:17,080 Speaker 4: is off. We started playing that line and no one 1549 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,200 Speaker 4: knew he was coming. When we started playing that baseline 1550 01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,680 Speaker 4: the lights flash, he pulled his hoodie up like this, 1551 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:28,280 Speaker 4: still with his back to the audience and then uh dude, 1552 01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,040 Speaker 4: when they when he turned to do the amount of 1553 01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:35,679 Speaker 4: like it was so crazy, bro Like, I'll never forget 1554 01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:37,840 Speaker 4: that moment. I'll never forget that moment. And that's where 1555 01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:39,920 Speaker 4: I met Dave too. That's where I met Chapelle too. 1556 01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,080 Speaker 4: I gave him piano lesson backstage at that show. 1557 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,000 Speaker 3: Oh so you're the one that taught him. 1558 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,559 Speaker 1: After Midnight, he's still. 1559 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,200 Speaker 4: Still playing that ship he played. He did a solo 1560 01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,639 Speaker 4: piano at my Blue Note residency last October. He went 1561 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,120 Speaker 4: on stage by himself and played rob Midnight on my 1562 01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,479 Speaker 4: piano by himself and thank you and walked. 1563 01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:06,360 Speaker 2: Playing that flight Twitter. 1564 01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:10,479 Speaker 10: He played that at party like He's. 1565 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,439 Speaker 4: But anyway at that show, a regularly show after it, 1566 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,720 Speaker 4: the after party thing upstairs or something like that. And 1567 01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:22,720 Speaker 4: I'm sitting on I'm sitting next to you, talking on 1568 01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:24,320 Speaker 4: next to somebody next to you, let me be one 1569 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:25,240 Speaker 4: or two people over for you. 1570 01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,120 Speaker 3: And I reached for some. 1571 01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,600 Speaker 4: Ice and Nora was on the other side of you, 1572 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,559 Speaker 4: and she reached for some ice, and that's what we were. 1573 01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:38,439 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh no, what's up. And then we got 1574 01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,559 Speaker 4: these other changed numbers. And that's how we just kept 1575 01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,040 Speaker 4: kept in connection, you know, from that, you know, but 1576 01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:44,240 Speaker 4: she killed that joint. 1577 01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:44,360 Speaker 2: Man. 1578 01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:44,960 Speaker 3: I love Nora. 1579 01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,920 Speaker 4: I love hearing Nora in other situations. Her voice is 1580 01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:49,880 Speaker 4: so dope, you know. 1581 01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:52,120 Speaker 2: So I really love that song. 1582 01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:56,599 Speaker 4: It's really dobe. Let it ride, Yeah, Andina was sick. 1583 01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,640 Speaker 4: She didn't want to write it. I sent it to 1584 01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:00,920 Speaker 4: Messina and I said, and I didn't know who was 1585 01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:03,240 Speaker 4: going to sing it yet. I just I wrote the song, 1586 01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:06,000 Speaker 4: and I was like, need some lyrics, and I sent him, hey, 1587 01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,000 Speaker 4: write some to this, and I need I need to 1588 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:09,559 Speaker 4: get it done by this week. I don't know who's 1589 01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,360 Speaker 4: going to sing it, but write it. And she was like, 1590 01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,080 Speaker 4: I'm really sick. I don't feel I said, write the 1591 01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:14,760 Speaker 4: damn song. 1592 01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:16,519 Speaker 2: Was writing a song. 1593 01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,439 Speaker 4: She's like okay, and wrote that joint and send it 1594 01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,800 Speaker 4: to me the next day. And then Nora came in. 1595 01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:27,559 Speaker 3: Who have you yet to? Uh? I guess for Phil 1596 01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:28,479 Speaker 3: Bucket list wise? 1597 01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's everybody, but what close calls 1598 01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,680 Speaker 1: have you had with your projects that you didn't get 1599 01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:36,400 Speaker 1: a chance to work with? 1600 01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:36,679 Speaker 3: Yet? 1601 01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:43,679 Speaker 1: Don't say her name? As I was asking this question, 1602 01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh God, no. 1603 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:49,360 Speaker 4: Do you think I'm gonna say, oh, you don't remember 1604 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:54,400 Speaker 4: the Oh? Yeah, mail the roof? 1605 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,519 Speaker 9: Is that so hard? What she that's the mayor? 1606 01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:04,080 Speaker 1: Call her up? 1607 01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:06,719 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1608 01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:12,559 Speaker 1: Like before Solon, Solon came through like a champ and she. 1609 01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:14,559 Speaker 2: Was gonna do that the little Dragon cover? 1610 01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:19,160 Speaker 4: Yes, wow, but what she doing? 1611 01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:20,639 Speaker 6: What's she doing with the mal doing? 1612 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:20,680 Speaker 8: What? 1613 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:23,160 Speaker 3: We try to make it? 1614 01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:30,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, it didn't really work out, okay, so yeah, 1615 01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:31,080 Speaker 4: who else? 1616 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:31,800 Speaker 9: Who else? 1617 01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:32,680 Speaker 1: Salon from? 1618 01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,720 Speaker 4: Look? I have a song in my computer. I did 1619 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:38,400 Speaker 4: the song that need. 1620 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:39,040 Speaker 3: The Baker. 1621 01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,280 Speaker 2: Was yo? Was it for the Blue Note album? 1622 01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:44,400 Speaker 5: That? 1623 01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:44,600 Speaker 4: Like? 1624 01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:44,960 Speaker 10: Never? 1625 01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:46,240 Speaker 4: Yes? 1626 01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:51,920 Speaker 10: Because yeah, she did a cover of Lately by tyree 1627 01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:53,839 Speaker 10: which on paper sounds insane. 1628 01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:58,840 Speaker 2: Wait what, bro, you never heard. 1629 01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:05,040 Speaker 10: Anita Baker covered Lately by Tyrese And it is fucking 1630 01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:06,360 Speaker 10: amazing niggas. 1631 01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:07,400 Speaker 2: She bodied that ship. 1632 01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,200 Speaker 10: Oh, it's like it's the only it's like one of 1633 01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,000 Speaker 10: her only so if it's still on, because you know, 1634 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,240 Speaker 10: not none of her shit on streaming, it's like one 1635 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:18,200 Speaker 10: of the only joints of hers that's like on streaming services. 1636 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:20,960 Speaker 4: That came out, that song came out. 1637 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:24,040 Speaker 10: That song came out, that came out. Oh my gosh, 1638 01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,000 Speaker 10: she bodied that shit. Bro I like, I was like 1639 01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,880 Speaker 10: lately she covered lately niggah. 1640 01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:30,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I was. 1641 01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:30,639 Speaker 3: Uh. 1642 01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,519 Speaker 4: It happened because we were both on Blueou at the 1643 01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:37,840 Speaker 4: same time, and Don was was trying to hook us up, 1644 01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:40,720 Speaker 4: like he also hooked me out with Shaka Khan, and 1645 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,479 Speaker 4: I was, I produced a half a record. I have 1646 01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,280 Speaker 4: four songs on Shaka. We're gonna do a whole word 1647 01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,639 Speaker 4: went in to do a whole album because he gave 1648 01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,639 Speaker 4: her Black Radio. It was like, just check this guy 1649 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,479 Speaker 4: out to do your album because she was going to 1650 01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,519 Speaker 4: do a record with Blue Note. So she's like, oh 1651 01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,040 Speaker 4: my god, I love it. I met up with her 1652 01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,679 Speaker 4: boom boom. We went and did a week in La, 1653 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,200 Speaker 4: did like four or five song and then her deal 1654 01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,639 Speaker 4: with Blue Note went. Some went left, so I got 1655 01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,760 Speaker 4: five songs of Shaka in my computer that I don't 1656 01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:11,960 Speaker 4: know ever gonna come out. But with Anita, she was 1657 01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:15,400 Speaker 4: working finishing that album. She was finishing it up, and 1658 01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,640 Speaker 4: I tweeted I was landing in La. I'll never forget it. 1659 01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,080 Speaker 4: I tweeted, I'm in La. Blah blah blah blah. She 1660 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,799 Speaker 4: tweeted me, Oh, come by the studio. 1661 01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,040 Speaker 3: I was like, what. 1662 01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,400 Speaker 4: They're like, I neither. She was like, yeah, come by 1663 01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,000 Speaker 4: the studio and listen to some of the stuff I've 1664 01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,439 Speaker 4: been doing. Her son is a DJ. He goes to 1665 01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,120 Speaker 4: he at the time. He's like going to Berkeley. He's 1666 01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:42,360 Speaker 4: a big fan of mine. So you know that helps, 1667 01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,880 Speaker 4: you know, you know what I mean. So I went 1668 01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,760 Speaker 4: by the studio. She played me the album and she 1669 01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,599 Speaker 4: was like, what do you think? And I even fixed 1670 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,800 Speaker 4: some stuff for keyboard parts and some stuff. She's like, 1671 01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:56,559 Speaker 4: you know, did some things on there. She was like, Man, 1672 01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:57,920 Speaker 4: if I would have known you were coming to town, 1673 01:23:57,920 --> 01:23:59,519 Speaker 4: I would have did a song with you. I said, 1674 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,320 Speaker 4: don't play. I said, I write a song right now. 1675 01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:06,000 Speaker 4: I'm in town right now now. She was like, I mean, 1676 01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,000 Speaker 4: but I got to turn in this album in two days. 1677 01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:08,920 Speaker 3: I was like, I need it. 1678 01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:14,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, bro, Look, first of all, when I walked to 1679 01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,360 Speaker 4: the studio, she's making ribs. Let's just talk about this 1680 01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:23,679 Speaker 4: for a second. Black the blackness, unams. The vocal booth 1681 01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:27,200 Speaker 4: was next to the kitchen. It's the same studio, same studio, 1682 01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:31,960 Speaker 4: same studio. She did Angel in same studio. Angel all 1683 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:32,719 Speaker 4: of the same. 1684 01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:36,599 Speaker 3: One because he's on Baver Glenn record, using that record. 1685 01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:38,920 Speaker 4: That's that's what that's well, back then when I did 1686 01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:40,360 Speaker 4: that song, that was three years ago when I did 1687 01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:44,080 Speaker 4: that song. When I did that, yes, so she had 1688 01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,799 Speaker 4: an oven mess and everything. You hungry, I'm making some ribs. 1689 01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:51,960 Speaker 4: I'm like, what ribs doesn't get you better? Anita Baker 1690 01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,519 Speaker 4: offered me ribs in the studio she did Angel. 1691 01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:55,560 Speaker 3: I'm good. 1692 01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,320 Speaker 4: So anyway, uh well she said that. I was like, Anita, 1693 01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna write some for you right now. I lively 1694 01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,439 Speaker 4: went to the piano. I swear to god, I wrote 1695 01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,080 Speaker 4: some ship and like I live and breathe me. The 1696 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,120 Speaker 4: Baker like, giving you the best that I got is why. 1697 01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:11,840 Speaker 4: That's one reason between giving you the best that I 1698 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:18,360 Speaker 4: got between that my mom. 1699 01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:22,360 Speaker 2: Look, I mean like thrillers. 1700 01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:27,160 Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, you and the fans always want 1701 01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:30,120 Speaker 1: to outdo someone, But I let you know that compositions 1702 01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:30,880 Speaker 1: is your record. 1703 01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,880 Speaker 2: That's the one man ship. That composition was a motherfuck. 1704 01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:40,080 Speaker 4: Look between that and and Luther Vandross albums. Matt Adley Jr. Yes, 1705 01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:43,200 Speaker 4: those were those sounds. Maybe want to play piano period like, 1706 01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:44,880 Speaker 4: because that's all we heard. I heard that in the 1707 01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:48,160 Speaker 4: house a lot. Anyway, I wrote the song like ten minutes. 1708 01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:52,760 Speaker 4: I went over Andre Harris's crib. I said, Yo, I 1709 01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:54,280 Speaker 4: need you to put some ship on here. As for 1710 01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:59,799 Speaker 4: the Baker was like cool, nigga, put drums, bass, guitar, 1711 01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,120 Speaker 4: did that in about an hour. We called Sir over. 1712 01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:06,280 Speaker 4: Sir came over to the crib and did his own 1713 01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,960 Speaker 4: ship and wrote the song, sang it down. We email 1714 01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,080 Speaker 4: her the song that night. She learned it that night, 1715 01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:16,360 Speaker 4: came to the studio, sang it down in one take, wow, 1716 01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,439 Speaker 4: and then said then said this to me. She said, 1717 01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,559 Speaker 4: only in my life three times has a song fit 1718 01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:23,920 Speaker 4: me like a tour address. 1719 01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:24,880 Speaker 3: This is the third. 1720 01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,000 Speaker 4: I didn't know what that. 1721 01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:40,680 Speaker 11: Ship was, all right, represent Yeah, anyway, she was like. 1722 01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:44,880 Speaker 3: What I was like, so so. 1723 01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:55,320 Speaker 4: Brother exactly that shoe popat No, not that sub but yeah, 1724 01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:56,960 Speaker 4: she said that. She was like, there was a thing 1725 01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,559 Speaker 4: that George Duke did for her, some kind of arrangement 1726 01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,559 Speaker 4: of something, and then I forget the other song, but 1727 01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,120 Speaker 4: she was like, this is the third She literally sung 1728 01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:08,439 Speaker 4: it down in one take, like. 1729 01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,080 Speaker 3: What where is it now? 1730 01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:11,559 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1731 01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:12,839 Speaker 4: Where in my computer? 1732 01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,120 Speaker 15: In that computer is talking to us on my computer 1733 01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:16,880 Speaker 15: talking to. 1734 01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:19,200 Speaker 6: Is it in that one? 1735 01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,680 Speaker 2: That computer in that computer with with email on it? 1736 01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:30,840 Speaker 2: Quick time? The quick time, that computer with a drum box, but. 1737 01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,679 Speaker 3: Triangle triangle every six hours with my air drop. 1738 01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:42,760 Speaker 4: Okay, my dream. I wanted. I'm going to hit her 1739 01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:44,040 Speaker 4: up because I wanted to. I want to see if 1740 01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:45,800 Speaker 4: I could use it for Black Radio three. That's why 1741 01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,320 Speaker 4: I yeah, yeah, I want to do it so bad. 1742 01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:52,000 Speaker 4: That's my hopes for George. 1743 01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,400 Speaker 2: You mentioned George. Did you if you and him before 1744 01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,120 Speaker 2: he died? Did y'all over her hook up or opened. 1745 01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:01,920 Speaker 4: Up for George? For like nine shows Europe? He never 1746 01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:08,519 Speaker 4: remembered me after any of the shows. You know, people 1747 01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,080 Speaker 4: like that, they up to the George, you know, And 1748 01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:15,040 Speaker 4: this was back in like I don't know, oh eight 1749 01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,240 Speaker 4: oh nine. You know, I was over like three years, 1750 01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,360 Speaker 4: so you know, I wasn't ship really, you know, so 1751 01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:21,600 Speaker 4: I'm not tripping because he's George dude, you know what 1752 01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,599 Speaker 4: I mean. But after each show in different cities, I'd 1753 01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:26,439 Speaker 4: be like, hey, hey, misster, do how you doing. Man? 1754 01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:30,320 Speaker 4: He'd be like hey with that face, and I'd be like, 1755 01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:35,400 Speaker 4: I'm a rob. I played key keys early earlier before 1756 01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:39,840 Speaker 4: you start, every and every every night, every night. But 1757 01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,600 Speaker 4: you know he ain't coming to the sound, you know, 1758 01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:43,600 Speaker 4: to the the shows before him, so you know. But 1759 01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:45,639 Speaker 4: then we finally got to connect in a real way 1760 01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:48,639 Speaker 4: at International Jazz Day, not that one I talked about, 1761 01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:53,240 Speaker 4: but before, and it was in Turkey and me and 1762 01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:56,200 Speaker 4: him and Herbie like got a chance to hang out 1763 01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:58,080 Speaker 4: and sit down and talk and you know what I mean, 1764 01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:00,799 Speaker 4: chop it up and that and that's it. In that situation, 1765 01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,920 Speaker 4: passed almost he literally passed. I'm not the pair of them, 1766 01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:11,240 Speaker 4: but he literally passed a few us. I say, you know, 1767 01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,760 Speaker 4: play keys. He knew play keys as far as I got. 1768 01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:15,519 Speaker 4: But there he passed a few a few days, a 1769 01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:16,800 Speaker 4: few a few months later after that. 1770 01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:26,160 Speaker 3: All right, so who who is the the hero? Figure that? 1771 01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:27,200 Speaker 10: All? 1772 01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:28,560 Speaker 3: Right? There you go? 1773 01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:32,120 Speaker 4: Are you gonna say Herbie comes somebody? 1774 01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,400 Speaker 5: Herbie was just about to ask you what is it like? 1775 01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,839 Speaker 5: Because I mean the last show I went to with yours, 1776 01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:38,360 Speaker 5: you did this whole thing. He was like, oh, I'm 1777 01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:40,280 Speaker 5: about to go take a bathroom break and he was 1778 01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:42,000 Speaker 5: I'm half of my feeling for me real quick, and 1779 01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:45,519 Speaker 5: it was Herbie Headcock and I was like, what does 1780 01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,519 Speaker 5: that feel like to be you and that relationship with 1781 01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:48,960 Speaker 5: that man? 1782 01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:52,120 Speaker 4: Man, he's so awesome and he loves to he loves 1783 01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,439 Speaker 4: to be around because he you know, he got that 1784 01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,720 Speaker 4: from Miles I think, you know, just like you know, 1785 01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:58,840 Speaker 4: wanting to soak up the younger energy and just be 1786 01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:04,200 Speaker 4: around on that even that was always him. So yeah, 1787 01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,800 Speaker 4: that's my dude, man, Like I love Herbie. He's so 1788 01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:10,120 Speaker 4: open and cool, and he just pulls up like he 1789 01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,559 Speaker 4: always pulls up, pulls up to the shows, pulls up 1790 01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:14,880 Speaker 4: to my last record. He's on my last record, fuck 1791 01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:18,120 Speaker 4: your feelings because I was he just heard I was 1792 01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:22,519 Speaker 4: in the studio and just pull it up. I was like, 1793 01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:24,880 Speaker 4: oh ship, you know, okay cool And he pulled up 1794 01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:30,720 Speaker 4: to fucking Hinson and I was like, Yo, did you 1795 01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:35,719 Speaker 4: hear you wanna? No? No, no, no, you know, just speaking 1796 01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,880 Speaker 4: to your point me and Herbie talked maybe two three 1797 01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:41,599 Speaker 4: weeks ago. He said, this is the longest time he's 1798 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:45,720 Speaker 4: ever gone without touching his piano. Oh wow, he said. 1799 01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:47,439 Speaker 3: He's in the same funk. He was like, man, I'm 1800 01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:47,920 Speaker 3: not even that. 1801 01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,080 Speaker 4: I don't feel like, you know, He's like, I've never 1802 01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:54,080 Speaker 4: gone seven months or wherever long it's been when I'm 1803 01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:57,040 Speaker 4: touching my piano. He's like, it's just sitting there. He's like, 1804 01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:58,920 Speaker 4: he's just it's just sitting there, you know. 1805 01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:04,360 Speaker 1: You know, so you gotta take a break, you gotta 1806 01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:06,680 Speaker 1: you gotta take a break and then come back to it. 1807 01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,320 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, I think it's different for keyboard 1808 01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:13,880 Speaker 1: players now because of the the the advanced way that 1809 01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:19,160 Speaker 1: technology moves in your world, Whereas at least with me personally, 1810 01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:24,440 Speaker 1: like I'm not too interested in you know, like new drums, 1811 01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:26,559 Speaker 1: and you know, the company always be like, you know, 1812 01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:30,200 Speaker 1: these are special trees that we used in Japan to 1813 01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,000 Speaker 1: make it, you know, And I always tell them like, 1814 01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:35,200 Speaker 1: give me the trashy the high school set. 1815 01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:37,879 Speaker 4: It's all in your touch anyway. It's all your touch anyway. 1816 01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:42,280 Speaker 1: Right, So as far as being a are you a 1817 01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:50,200 Speaker 1: gear head or are you just using the same. 1818 01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:52,280 Speaker 4: I am not, you know what, because when people were 1819 01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:55,760 Speaker 4: doing gear ship, I was just practicing on being really 1820 01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,760 Speaker 4: good at the piano, you know what I'm saying. I've 1821 01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:02,559 Speaker 4: never because my whole thing was always acoustic piano. So 1822 01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:06,320 Speaker 4: that's been my thing for such a long time. Even 1823 01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:09,120 Speaker 4: when I got signed a Blue Note piano trio, shit 1824 01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:12,080 Speaker 4: acoustic piano. It wasn't even keyboards. Yeah, I wasn't even 1825 01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:15,240 Speaker 4: using keyboards for a while. They're putting piano acoustic pianos 1826 01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:17,080 Speaker 4: and clubs for me because I didn't want to play 1827 01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:20,160 Speaker 4: jazz clubs anymore. I want to play cool shit hip 1828 01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:22,320 Speaker 4: hop venues and shit like that. And I was trying 1829 01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:24,720 Speaker 4: to get grand pianos in there. So Stein would put 1830 01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:26,439 Speaker 4: pianos in there for me and shit, but a lot 1831 01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:28,679 Speaker 4: of times that sound would be fucked up. It wouldn't 1832 01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:30,080 Speaker 4: sound good, you know what I mean. And so I 1833 01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:32,080 Speaker 4: was like, Okay, let me get the key let me 1834 01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:35,040 Speaker 4: do the keyboard thing. But I've never really been a 1835 01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:38,240 Speaker 4: gearhead at all. People think I am for some reason, 1836 01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:40,120 Speaker 4: but to me. 1837 01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:42,599 Speaker 10: It always seemed like I think that's the gearhead thing 1838 01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:45,200 Speaker 10: is more so for people who think of themselves as 1839 01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:48,519 Speaker 10: producers first or right, you always kind of seem like. 1840 01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:50,600 Speaker 2: A player, you know, primarily. 1841 01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, know, we need strings. I know a 1842 01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,280 Speaker 4: string player that can do that, like we did when 1843 01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:59,479 Speaker 4: we fucking did the twice. You know, AMR wasn't like 1844 01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:03,519 Speaker 4: Gil pull the string sounds. He called some cellos and violence, 1845 01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:05,439 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. We know those guys. We 1846 01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:08,800 Speaker 4: don't need the patch. I know them. I'm always that, 1847 01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:10,640 Speaker 4: you know, and all the patches they're like, but it 1848 01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:13,200 Speaker 4: sounds real. This one sounds realer than that one. I'm like, 1849 01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:16,400 Speaker 4: I know, real people, real people, Yeah, I know. 1850 01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:24,960 Speaker 9: I would imagine, now, keep a musician's employed. That's dope. 1851 01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:28,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. And obviously obviously you got to tap into it 1852 01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:32,600 Speaker 4: a little bit because you can't just get musicians like 1853 01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:35,519 Speaker 4: this anymore, especially now. So that's why now I've been 1854 01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:39,160 Speaker 4: even tappingto it, tapping into just sounds and getting all 1855 01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:41,680 Speaker 4: the plug ins and stuff like that, even even if 1856 01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:44,439 Speaker 4: it's for demo demo's sake, you know what I mean, 1857 01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:47,560 Speaker 4: I'll do stuff like that. But I'm just such a 1858 01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,400 Speaker 4: live person. That's just my thing, you know. 1859 01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:53,719 Speaker 1: I would imagine, like, you know, I'll say, like maybe 1860 01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:57,760 Speaker 1: what Steve, like once every four months the rolling guy 1861 01:33:57,800 --> 01:33:59,320 Speaker 1: comes in with you toys. 1862 01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:02,000 Speaker 3: And whatnot, and we're like, oh. 1863 01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:05,160 Speaker 1: This is like Christmas all over again. Like I'm certain 1864 01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:10,000 Speaker 1: that every keyboard maker from Yamaha, Toro, like all these 1865 01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:15,320 Speaker 1: guys are like I was off to you try our product. 1866 01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:17,639 Speaker 4: Well here here's the thing though. I was on Yamaha 1867 01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,920 Speaker 4: for a long time, but there wasn't giving me that 1868 01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:26,240 Speaker 4: love you were talking about. I was like, hey, yeah, yeah, 1869 01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:29,439 Speaker 4: because I'm like, yo, why am I having to call 1870 01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:33,240 Speaker 4: the MD for Alicia Keys to get to the head 1871 01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:36,519 Speaker 4: of Yamaha Keyboards. I'm actually a keyboard player, but I 1872 01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,960 Speaker 4: have R and B, Grammys and hip. I'm Grammys and ship. 1873 01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:42,160 Speaker 4: I'm here. Hey, this works for you guys, you know. 1874 01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:46,519 Speaker 4: But the mds of the people get those people get 1875 01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:48,719 Speaker 4: those looks, and I'm like, yo, but I'm an actual 1876 01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:50,960 Speaker 4: panel player, like you know what I mean, Like I 1877 01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:53,439 Speaker 4: should get those looks, and I wasn't getting them. So 1878 01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:57,080 Speaker 4: I left and and like you said before, everybody else 1879 01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:59,360 Speaker 4: is like yo, for for years wanted to me. So 1880 01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:02,559 Speaker 4: I'm on Core now, you know, and they treat me 1881 01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:05,240 Speaker 4: they're great. I have to stop them from giving me shit. 1882 01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:09,439 Speaker 4: You're right, I do. Yeah, how many. 1883 01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:13,680 Speaker 1: Well, the thing is is that when keyboards are manufactured 1884 01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:17,080 Speaker 1: and they put all those patches inside of one thing, like, 1885 01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,920 Speaker 1: does it matter how much product they make? Like, isn't 1886 01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:21,440 Speaker 1: it just the same version. 1887 01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:26,960 Speaker 4: Of basically, But for me, what interested me in keyboards 1888 01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:30,120 Speaker 4: initially too was because I started needing to use a 1889 01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:32,719 Speaker 4: keyboard on the road when I was playing my shows, 1890 01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:36,120 Speaker 4: and I needed something that felt good, that felt close 1891 01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:39,400 Speaker 4: to a piano as possible, and that sounded as close 1892 01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:41,599 Speaker 4: to a piano as possible. So that's when I became 1893 01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:46,040 Speaker 4: interested in plugins and interested in different keyboards because you know, 1894 01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,200 Speaker 4: but so the one I have now, the one I 1895 01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:53,120 Speaker 4: use now, the Chronos, feels the best when it comes 1896 01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,479 Speaker 4: to me having to get around like that, you know 1897 01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:57,680 Speaker 4: what I mean, like really get around. So for me, 1898 01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:01,040 Speaker 4: it was always that what felt the best because at 1899 01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,599 Speaker 4: my shows, yeah, I use a piano and I always 1900 01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:06,840 Speaker 4: have offender roads and then I have something on top, 1901 01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:09,400 Speaker 4: you know, some kind of like I have a smaller 1902 01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:11,760 Speaker 4: Crogos on top for my extra little sounds here and now. 1903 01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:13,840 Speaker 4: For for years I didn't have to do a lot 1904 01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:15,840 Speaker 4: of sounds because I had Casey Benjamin, he had a 1905 01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:16,559 Speaker 4: million sounds, and this. 1906 01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:20,439 Speaker 10: Ship right right right, Yeah, I remember we did that 1907 01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:25,240 Speaker 10: gig at that sound was a rouge ago and he 1908 01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,559 Speaker 10: was I think you were playing you were you playing 1909 01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,320 Speaker 10: the lead, the door, lead, the red Yeah. 1910 01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,120 Speaker 2: I think we were playing that night and Casey had 1911 01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:33,719 Speaker 2: yeah all the million. 1912 01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I'm not. I'm just not. I'm not really 1913 01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:39,559 Speaker 4: interested in a lot of sounds. I like piano, I 1914 01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:42,960 Speaker 4: like roads, like a few leads and a pad every 1915 01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:44,320 Speaker 4: now and then. But I like to you know, I 1916 01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:46,400 Speaker 4: know those guys who are great at those sounds, and 1917 01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:49,360 Speaker 4: I even hire those guys to come do sounds. Hey, 1918 01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:51,640 Speaker 4: you want to make some sounds, you do that. It 1919 01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:53,519 Speaker 4: freezes me up. It frees me up to just do 1920 01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:54,080 Speaker 4: what I want to do. 1921 01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:56,200 Speaker 10: You know, Hey, I was just gonna ask you about 1922 01:36:56,400 --> 01:37:00,439 Speaker 10: the Miles project that I was like honored fucking be on, 1923 01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:04,360 Speaker 10: like to log into my ass cap and see a 1924 01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:07,040 Speaker 10: song and it's fun take ovid Miles Davis, like nigga, 1925 01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,800 Speaker 10: what you know what I'm saying, like for like for real, 1926 01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:12,200 Speaker 10: for real, like so yeah, I mean I've told you 1927 01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:13,000 Speaker 10: this a billion times. 1928 01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:14,240 Speaker 2: I just want to say, in front of myody brother, 1929 01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:15,040 Speaker 2: thank you so much. 1930 01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:16,639 Speaker 4: For sure, for sure. 1931 01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:19,040 Speaker 10: But but Noah, Man, I wanted to ask you, like, 1932 01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:21,960 Speaker 10: so when they give you just carte blanche and say 1933 01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:27,160 Speaker 10: all right, do whatever, how I guess how much of 1934 01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:31,280 Speaker 10: an undertaking is that and how involved is his family 1935 01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,799 Speaker 10: in that? And you know kind of you know, making 1936 01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,559 Speaker 10: sure that you know that ship has done tastefully or whatever, 1937 01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:38,160 Speaker 10: Like what was that process? 1938 01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:41,360 Speaker 2: Like, man, just doing that everything album? It Actually it 1939 01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:42,320 Speaker 2: was a nephew. 1940 01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:45,280 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, it was Vince, his nephew. 1941 01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:48,160 Speaker 4: And I've been on Vince for years and he's always 1942 01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:50,640 Speaker 4: he's fan of the music, and he you know, he 1943 01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:53,880 Speaker 4: knows that I'm I shadow a lot of what Miles 1944 01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:55,880 Speaker 4: already did and I and I think like that and 1945 01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:58,400 Speaker 4: I look see what you know. So he hit me 1946 01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:00,840 Speaker 4: up about it. First, I was doing the score for 1947 01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:03,880 Speaker 4: the movie. I was in the middle of that John 1948 01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:06,719 Speaker 4: OUs Ahead. I was already in the middle of the movie. 1949 01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:10,080 Speaker 4: And then Sony hit me up about doing that doing 1950 01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:12,400 Speaker 4: the because it was about to be his ninetieth birthday 1951 01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:14,920 Speaker 4: or something. I think at that time it's going to 1952 01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:16,479 Speaker 4: be his ninetieth birthday. And they were like, we want 1953 01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:18,760 Speaker 4: to do a remix album, blah blah, and I was like, 1954 01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:20,880 Speaker 4: I'll only do it if it's I don't want to 1955 01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:23,000 Speaker 4: do a remix album, Like I'm not interested in putting 1956 01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:25,639 Speaker 4: some Miles trumpets over hip hop, you know what I mean? 1957 01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:27,320 Speaker 3: Like that's been done. I want to do that. 1958 01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:28,840 Speaker 4: I said, the only way I'll do it is if 1959 01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:31,160 Speaker 4: you let me in the vault and let me take 1960 01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:36,200 Speaker 4: what I want. And they were like, okay, So they 1961 01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:42,320 Speaker 4: gave me eight hours. I was in the vault eight 1962 01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:43,240 Speaker 4: hours of the vault. 1963 01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:45,280 Speaker 2: Well, I thought you been eight hours to do the album. 1964 01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:47,400 Speaker 4: I was like, God, damn, no, no, no, they gave 1965 01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:49,559 Speaker 4: me eight hours of the vault. 1966 01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:53,679 Speaker 3: That's way too little, way too little. 1967 01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:56,840 Speaker 4: I took as much as I possibly could in that 1968 01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:58,280 Speaker 4: time because they didn't want to let me in the 1969 01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:00,800 Speaker 4: vault originally, you know what I'm saying. But it was 1970 01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:03,200 Speaker 4: like a back and forth from my people there people, 1971 01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:05,880 Speaker 4: and then they finally like, okay, we'll give you eight hours. 1972 01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:09,599 Speaker 4: You know how much unreleased Miles was in there. I 1973 01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:11,439 Speaker 4: have a lot of ship. 1974 01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:14,120 Speaker 3: What were they what? 1975 01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:16,720 Speaker 4: What what were you taking? 1976 01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:17,080 Speaker 5: Right? 1977 01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:21,760 Speaker 4: How you doing? 1978 01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:23,360 Speaker 3: Well? What? 1979 01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:27,320 Speaker 7: What what were you taking m P three's tapes talking about. 1980 01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:28,719 Speaker 3: No just P three ship? 1981 01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:29,000 Speaker 11: Yeah? 1982 01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:29,439 Speaker 3: I did. 1983 01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:31,640 Speaker 4: I brought my hard driving and they were just like, 1984 01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:33,559 Speaker 4: take what you want? What do you want to pull up? 1985 01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:33,640 Speaker 10: Now? 1986 01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:34,680 Speaker 3: What iut gonna pull up now? 1987 01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:40,040 Speaker 4: But uh, you know some digitized and some stuff was 1988 01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:41,880 Speaker 4: to track what you can't do much with. But then 1989 01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:48,400 Speaker 4: they had ship that was like eight tracks and cursing out. 1990 01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:51,760 Speaker 4: I got so much. I got yeah, I got that 1991 01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:56,360 Speaker 4: got him. I got him talking ship, cussing out talking 1992 01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:57,800 Speaker 4: to Ron Carter when he was trying to learn from 1993 01:39:57,800 --> 01:39:58,519 Speaker 4: them jazz dance. 1994 01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:02,840 Speaker 3: Wait, I wait, did I share this previously? 1995 01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:07,000 Speaker 1: On another I found out something that I don't think 1996 01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:11,320 Speaker 1: the jazz world is aware of. I was recently told 1997 01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,680 Speaker 1: by a lot of jazz I had to ask at 1998 01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:18,800 Speaker 1: least six of them. I did not realize that Ron 1999 01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:25,719 Speaker 1: Carter does not know how to solo good. So someone 2000 01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:30,960 Speaker 1: someone brought this up to me when I was asking my, my, my, other, 2001 01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:35,679 Speaker 1: my older jazz heads about stuff. And to them, they're 2002 01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:40,480 Speaker 1: baffled that one of the most iconic hip hop samples 2003 01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:47,040 Speaker 1: and they're referencing the McCoy teimer sample for the choices 2004 01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:51,920 Speaker 1: yours with Ron Carter, and Ron Carter is on base 2005 01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:55,360 Speaker 1: doing that, and I guess the the whole thing is 2006 01:40:55,400 --> 01:41:02,080 Speaker 1: that they're laughing at the irony that the world's worst soloist, 2007 01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:06,519 Speaker 1: and I was like, blasphemy. Right now, They're like no, no, no, no, no, 2008 01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:10,519 Speaker 1: Ron's a perfect foundation for music. But if you notice 2009 01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:13,760 Speaker 1: he Miles never gave him a solo on any of 2010 01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:16,240 Speaker 1: his records. And I was like, I don't believe his ship. 2011 01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:18,960 Speaker 1: And then I went back and for a whole month 2012 01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:22,320 Speaker 1: listened to every Miles Davis. 2013 01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:23,840 Speaker 3: Couldn't find one. 2014 01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:27,240 Speaker 4: If there's anything, it was just walking so low. If 2015 01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:30,599 Speaker 4: there was one, it was just was one like there was. 2016 01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:34,920 Speaker 3: He was there just ass foundations, I exactly. And then 2017 01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:36,439 Speaker 3: when I was like, wait a minute, why is that so? 2018 01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:39,120 Speaker 1: Because Ron Carter is just like he's like, no, this 2019 01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:42,000 Speaker 1: is y'all fault is that's tribe fault y'all. 2020 01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:43,519 Speaker 3: May y'all may be. 2021 01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:49,439 Speaker 1: Worst music shit Miles Davids arsenal King, And I'm like, 2022 01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:53,360 Speaker 1: this is blasphemy. But I didn't realize, like how do 2023 01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:57,479 Speaker 1: you judge? Maybe I don't know, Like, yeah, how do 2024 01:41:57,520 --> 01:41:59,080 Speaker 1: you know if a cat is real or not? 2025 01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:03,479 Speaker 4: Well, that's it depends on the instrument, because the reality 2026 01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:07,120 Speaker 4: is no, most people don't want to hear bas solo anyway. 2027 01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:11,559 Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you, Christian McBride. You went to school 2028 01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:13,680 Speaker 4: with the most incredible bass soloist in the history of 2029 01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:16,360 Speaker 4: jazz music, so you have a different outlook on it. 2030 01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:17,720 Speaker 3: But most people don't want to hear. 2031 01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:20,160 Speaker 7: That's when you go to the bathroom man. 2032 01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:22,200 Speaker 4: All that that's the joke. 2033 01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:27,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I now I believe that Chris is I 2034 01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:31,120 Speaker 1: mean next a mingus Like I feel like Chris is 2035 01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:32,360 Speaker 1: the god of jazz bass. 2036 01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:33,960 Speaker 3: So maybe I am sported. 2037 01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:37,360 Speaker 4: But period, there has no never been a soloist like 2038 01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:40,280 Speaker 4: Christian McBride. That's not even that's not even up for debate. 2039 01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:43,400 Speaker 4: There's not one person that's even close to it. Jazz 2040 01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:46,240 Speaker 4: based soloists like McBride is. No one gets around like that. 2041 01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:46,880 Speaker 3: It's true. 2042 01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:50,960 Speaker 4: No bass player makes other instruments scared to play after them, 2043 01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:55,520 Speaker 4: except Christian McBride when they solo. I've had this conversation 2044 01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:59,240 Speaker 4: with all everybody. He's the only bass player that when 2045 01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:01,320 Speaker 4: he solos, you're like, what a what am I going 2046 01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:04,280 Speaker 4: to play? You know what I'm saying? Like most based 2047 01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:07,559 Speaker 4: most basics stay in their base range and they don't 2048 01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:09,840 Speaker 4: have much vocabulary. Because you don't you don't get to 2049 01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:11,240 Speaker 4: work out as much, you don't get to sol us 2050 01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:13,519 Speaker 4: much you have the one based solo in a set 2051 01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:15,479 Speaker 4: at best, you know what I'm saying. 2052 01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:17,000 Speaker 3: But everybody else, that's what you do. 2053 01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:21,160 Speaker 1: Your job is just so without you, without you throwing 2054 01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:25,760 Speaker 1: your contemporaries under or your idols under. Yeah, but I 2055 01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:28,960 Speaker 1: always wanted like and this is where because comedians have 2056 01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:33,240 Speaker 1: a whole nother standard. I I guess I have a 2057 01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:39,720 Speaker 1: you know, like when I criticize Kanye's patches, yeah, you know, 2058 01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:42,639 Speaker 1: his drum patches or whatever. And even Kanye him something 2059 01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:54,040 Speaker 1: now I feel like he'll tell you, but it's just like, 2060 01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, I hear people just dismiss it as like, 2061 01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:59,559 Speaker 1: oh you have like dog with sole ears, like you 2062 01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:01,960 Speaker 1: hear something that we can't hear. But right, you know, 2063 01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:05,280 Speaker 1: when I hear a producer, I could tell like based 2064 01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:08,759 Speaker 1: on their you know, the way that they chop their 2065 01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:11,519 Speaker 1: their patches and what they use and their arrangement and 2066 01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:14,479 Speaker 1: their tone and all that stuff. You know, stuff that 2067 01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:16,519 Speaker 1: I can hear that the average person can't hear. 2068 01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:18,559 Speaker 3: But yeah, how do you know? 2069 01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:23,120 Speaker 1: Like my dad would know how good a musician was 2070 01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:26,599 Speaker 1: based on how they play ballad. He makes them play 2071 01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:30,280 Speaker 1: a ballot and he's like I can instantly tell who 2072 01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:32,639 Speaker 1: is good and who's not good when you play, when 2073 01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:34,360 Speaker 1: you give them the easiest shit in the world to 2074 01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:36,840 Speaker 1: play and they fall apart in front of me. 2075 01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:41,240 Speaker 4: So what d Yeah, no, that's a good one too. 2076 01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:43,200 Speaker 4: Especially as the piano player. When you play a ballad, 2077 01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:46,120 Speaker 4: you're exposed because now it's it's really about your touch 2078 01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:49,439 Speaker 4: and there's the space there. So what how much knowledge 2079 01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:51,120 Speaker 4: do you have to fill up that space? What? What 2080 01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:52,720 Speaker 4: can you do to fill up that space? A lot 2081 01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:55,240 Speaker 4: of people feel and be tasteful about it. A lot 2082 01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,240 Speaker 4: of people feel like, especially piano players, they feel like 2083 01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:00,920 Speaker 4: when I go to shit like or stuff like that, 2084 01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:03,640 Speaker 4: a million piano players, everybody's trying to play. 2085 01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:04,840 Speaker 3: I went one. 2086 01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:06,800 Speaker 4: I went twice in my life. I had to go 2087 01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:09,600 Speaker 4: over the last. I did a thing for Corey just 2088 01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:13,840 Speaker 4: read recently. I did a show there for Corey And 2089 01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:19,599 Speaker 4: so dude, it's yeah, you already know anyway. Yeah, everybody 2090 01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:21,840 Speaker 4: wants to play the fastest thing they possibly can, giant 2091 01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:23,479 Speaker 4: steps or some shit like that. And then when you 2092 01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:25,800 Speaker 4: play fast, you don't have to have touch, not about touch, 2093 01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:27,960 Speaker 4: not about this, not about that, and it goes by 2094 01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:30,520 Speaker 4: so fast and not paying attention. But with piano players, 2095 01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:32,439 Speaker 4: you can, like I can sit down, I can see 2096 01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:35,439 Speaker 4: a piano player sit down, and in five seconds I 2097 01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:37,800 Speaker 4: can know what I'm about to hear. Sometimes I can 2098 01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,080 Speaker 4: do it just by your posture and what you while 2099 01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:43,000 Speaker 4: you hold your hands. A lot of times I can tell, okay, 2100 01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:45,719 Speaker 4: you actually don't play jazz. You have to play church organ, 2101 01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:50,920 Speaker 4: but you're playing piano today. Like for instance, you see 2102 01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:53,400 Speaker 4: me play organ, you think I don't play keys because 2103 01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:57,280 Speaker 4: I suck at orgon. I know. I know Chedrick Mitchell 2104 01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:59,639 Speaker 4: and Krey Henry and James Poison, these kinds of cat 2105 01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:00,840 Speaker 4: not an organ player. 2106 01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:03,320 Speaker 3: There's a difference in the technique. 2107 01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:07,960 Speaker 1: It's a different so that Corey does like that, you 2108 01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:09,640 Speaker 1: would have to practice a lot to get to that 2109 01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:10,599 Speaker 1: one hundred. 2110 01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:14,719 Speaker 4: When he plays chords not lines, is different, Like lines 2111 01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:16,759 Speaker 4: on organ are easy because the key is the plastic 2112 01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:19,280 Speaker 4: and there's no weight. A real piano has weights, So 2113 01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:21,680 Speaker 4: you can when you can tell somebody's real chops when 2114 01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:23,479 Speaker 4: to play a piano because that's when the weight's there, 2115 01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:27,479 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Yeah, if you're slow on organ, 2116 01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:30,840 Speaker 4: you're I can't help you because it's a plastic key. 2117 01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:32,599 Speaker 4: You just supposed to be fast, you know what I mean. 2118 01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:36,280 Speaker 4: But Corey, Yeah, any organ player that's really good moving 2119 01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:38,920 Speaker 4: from chord to chord, it's a fucking spider technique. Like 2120 01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:41,960 Speaker 4: everything has to be connected, and you voice things different 2121 01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:45,080 Speaker 4: because you're used to having bass pedals, So your voicings 2122 01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:47,080 Speaker 4: up here are different. Piano players, are you not used 2123 01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:49,000 Speaker 4: to having bass pedals? We have to play base here, 2124 01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:52,240 Speaker 4: so our voicings are different to make it full, because 2125 01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:54,880 Speaker 4: we have to make it full here. Organ players have 2126 01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:57,840 Speaker 4: the pedals, so they're the just there the cord. The 2127 01:46:57,840 --> 01:46:59,679 Speaker 4: structure of the chord is still to be like what 2128 01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:03,000 Speaker 4: the hell hell you know, so immediately you could tell 2129 01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:06,000 Speaker 4: what that somebody plays by like sitting sitting down, you 2130 01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:08,360 Speaker 4: know what I mean. And yeah, and the vocabulary is 2131 01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:09,920 Speaker 4: super easy to tell immediately. 2132 01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:13,400 Speaker 10: You know that roads players is another thing too, like 2133 01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:17,720 Speaker 10: I know, like yeah, that's a whole other thing, like yeah, roses. 2134 01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:20,200 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, everybody that plays piano can't play roles and 2135 01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:23,960 Speaker 4: vice versa, and like all those the different touches and 2136 01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:25,479 Speaker 4: different vibes and like. 2137 01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:30,360 Speaker 1: One, so what's your accordion game? Like I'm crazy on accordion. 2138 01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm crazy on the Courdon talking about I do know 2139 01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:39,040 Speaker 1: one that's amazing though. I used to see him with 2140 01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:41,360 Speaker 1: Jeff Tay Watts on Monday Nights at the Z Bar 2141 01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:47,880 Speaker 1: years ago, really Accordion and and tag. He was smashing 2142 01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:50,920 Speaker 1: bro Wait a minute for the guy. How how does 2143 01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:53,479 Speaker 1: it feel to be the person that got Malcolm Jamal 2144 01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:55,200 Speaker 1: Warner his first gram? 2145 01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:00,320 Speaker 3: Wrong? 2146 01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:01,160 Speaker 4: Funny? 2147 01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:02,840 Speaker 3: You know what's crazy about that? 2148 01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:04,719 Speaker 4: Though? That wasn't supposed to have most of my stuff 2149 01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:07,000 Speaker 4: on black Radio. I'll tell you everybody all the time. 2150 01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:09,800 Speaker 4: It's like, whenever I make an album, the universe is 2151 01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:12,800 Speaker 4: always a co producer because it never goes how I 2152 01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:14,720 Speaker 4: wanted to go all the way and I know that. 2153 01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:17,120 Speaker 4: I know that going in and I'm okay with it 2154 01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:20,960 Speaker 4: because great things, better things have happened because the universe 2155 01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:22,880 Speaker 4: is like, look, nigga, this is what's gonna happen. So 2156 01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:25,360 Speaker 4: she'll the fuck this is can't do shit about it. 2157 01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:29,639 Speaker 4: So when I did the Song of Jesus Chows of America, 2158 01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:33,320 Speaker 4: it was it was and and and old to the 2159 01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:36,960 Speaker 4: children of the Sandy Hub tragedy. That morning of the 2160 01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:40,280 Speaker 4: actual tragedy. I was doing it Stevie tribute. I believe 2161 01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:42,400 Speaker 4: I'm me or you came and sat in. Was it 2162 01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:44,920 Speaker 4: that that day or the next day. We did two 2163 01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:48,200 Speaker 4: nights at Harlem stage of a Stevie Wonder tribute. 2164 01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:52,040 Speaker 3: Damn man, I need you around just to remind me 2165 01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:55,240 Speaker 3: of shit. Yes, yes, yes, and you can and I'm here. 2166 01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:55,760 Speaker 3: Came by. 2167 01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:58,519 Speaker 4: It might have been so two nights. The first night 2168 01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:02,120 Speaker 4: was of that day that the TRACTI happened another night 2169 01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:03,679 Speaker 4: and you came one of those nights. I can't remember 2170 01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:06,200 Speaker 4: which one. And that was my first time doing that 2171 01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:10,639 Speaker 4: arrangement of Jesus Children of America with Leila for for 2172 01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:13,719 Speaker 4: for them. And there was that that day when that happened. 2173 01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,320 Speaker 4: I woke up and my good friend Jimmy, Jimmy Green, 2174 01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:20,120 Speaker 4: his daughter was killed in that. Oh wow, Jimmy was 2175 01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:21,720 Speaker 4: the first Jimmy. 2176 01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:24,519 Speaker 3: She was the first grade a few times. Yeah, she 2177 01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:25,400 Speaker 3: was the first grade. 2178 01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:27,920 Speaker 4: And so that fucked me up because I have at 2179 01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:29,640 Speaker 4: this point, I have a son, you know what I mean. 2180 01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:32,120 Speaker 4: It's like, oh, ship, she hits you hardly when you 2181 01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:34,479 Speaker 4: have kids. Things that happened with kids. If you don't 2182 01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:36,280 Speaker 4: have kids, it's one thing. When once you have a kid, 2183 01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:39,800 Speaker 4: it's whole. No, I can't even watch movies the same. 2184 01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:42,360 Speaker 4: You know, when you have a kid, everything different like 2185 01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:46,240 Speaker 4: oh ship. So anyway, fast forward, when Black Radio Time 2186 01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:48,280 Speaker 4: came around, I told Laila, hey, I want to do 2187 01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:50,880 Speaker 4: Jesus Chris in America. You know, She's like okay. She 2188 01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:53,960 Speaker 4: came in and as usual as she did for the 2189 01:49:54,040 --> 01:50:00,200 Speaker 4: shady song, mhm cherish today was one take. He was 2190 01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:02,960 Speaker 4: reading the lyrics on her phone. It was actually it 2191 01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:06,599 Speaker 4: was the sound check she was right beforehand. She said, 2192 01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:09,120 Speaker 4: mike check one two, Mike check one too. That's why 2193 01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:11,320 Speaker 4: I faded it in because right before that she was 2194 01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:14,080 Speaker 4: checking the mic and that take you here is the 2195 01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:16,759 Speaker 4: sound check. So when she finished, she was like, okay, 2196 01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:18,400 Speaker 4: I'm ready. I was like, thanks, we're good. 2197 01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:20,000 Speaker 2: No, that was it. That was it. 2198 01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:22,960 Speaker 4: She had the same thing for Judis CH's America Jesus 2199 01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:25,599 Speaker 4: Chosen in America. She came in, did that shit one time, 2200 01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:29,200 Speaker 4: one take. I don't have bonus tracks of Layla. I 2201 01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:31,320 Speaker 4: don't have bonus shit of Layla because she just doesn't 2202 01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:32,960 Speaker 4: want to take it. I'm good. I'm like, I'm good. 2203 01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:36,000 Speaker 4: And anyway, we did the song, and in my mind 2204 01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:38,320 Speaker 4: I was going to get Jimmy Green to do a 2205 01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:41,840 Speaker 4: poem for his daughter in that song, you know, in 2206 01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:44,880 Speaker 4: the actual song. And so I was reaching out to 2207 01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:47,080 Speaker 4: him and you know, trying to see if you want 2208 01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:48,880 Speaker 4: to do it. And my other friend who was really 2209 01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:51,320 Speaker 4: close to the otis, was like, man, this is not 2210 01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:53,280 Speaker 4: a good time for Jimmy, you know, blah blah blah. 2211 01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:56,280 Speaker 4: So he couldn't do it. Malcolm had hit me and like, yo, 2212 01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:57,880 Speaker 4: I want to come hang out at the studio next 2213 01:50:57,920 --> 01:50:59,320 Speaker 4: time you're the studio. So I hit Matholm like, yo, 2214 01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:02,000 Speaker 4: we'll come hang out the I'm doing something mixes of 2215 01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:06,080 Speaker 4: songs blah blah blah, and we started mixing Jesus in 2216 01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:08,000 Speaker 4: America and I told him. I was like, I was 2217 01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:09,639 Speaker 4: trying to get a poem on here. He was like, dude, 2218 01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:10,800 Speaker 4: you I'm anna poet right. 2219 01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:14,160 Speaker 3: I was like, I forgot about that. 2220 01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:17,120 Speaker 4: He was like, he was like, bro, give me a 2221 01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:19,200 Speaker 4: stab at it. I'm gonna go. I'll go write something 2222 01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:20,800 Speaker 4: right now. Give me a stab. You don't have to 2223 01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,120 Speaker 4: use it if you don't want it. He went to 2224 01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:25,920 Speaker 4: the we're in We're in Westlake and he went upstairs, 2225 01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:30,080 Speaker 4: took it like an hour, wrote it, came down, spit it, 2226 01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:35,479 Speaker 4: and then that was it that was it surprised Yeah, bro, yeah, bro. 2227 01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:37,479 Speaker 4: But a lot of those things were black Radio. That's 2228 01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:40,799 Speaker 4: how black Radio actually album. The actual album. I canceled 2229 01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:43,000 Speaker 4: it like four times because it was too hard to make, 2230 01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:46,920 Speaker 4: because nobody's schedule was lining up. So I literally said 2231 01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:49,519 Speaker 4: fuck it, we'll do it next year or some shit 2232 01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:52,280 Speaker 4: four times, and then out of the blue, my manager 2233 01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:54,479 Speaker 4: hit me, I was on tour. I was on tour 2234 01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:56,519 Speaker 4: with my band, and my manager hit me like, I 2235 01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:59,680 Speaker 4: don't know what happened, but every guest is available next 2236 01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:01,360 Speaker 4: week in l A. 2237 01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:05,160 Speaker 2: And this is red one or two one one one 2238 01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:06,160 Speaker 2: in l A. 2239 01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:09,639 Speaker 3: Everybody's available. Yeah. 2240 01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:12,720 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, ship, So yeah, it might have been. 2241 01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:14,360 Speaker 3: It might have been. It might have been. Everybody was 2242 01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:16,320 Speaker 3: February is where you catch all year. 2243 01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:20,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like, oh ship, Okay, So I canceled 2244 01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:24,320 Speaker 4: my tour and I flew I flew in, and I 2245 01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:26,720 Speaker 4: flew right and I went right to, uh, what's the 2246 01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:27,639 Speaker 4: girl King's house? 2247 01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:28,559 Speaker 3: That was when King. 2248 01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:31,760 Speaker 4: When they had a little and I here you were 2249 01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:36,240 Speaker 4: like talking about King and Erica. My friend Megan, she 2250 01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:38,559 Speaker 4: was happening to kind of be managing them at the time, 2251 01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:42,040 Speaker 4: and she was, and I told her. I was like, man, 2252 01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:43,280 Speaker 4: I want to get them on the record. I think 2253 01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:47,599 Speaker 4: that'd be dope. They got some fire now talking moved 2254 01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:50,240 Speaker 4: love and I went to their house and I to 2255 01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:52,880 Speaker 4: meet them and to write the song. And they happen 2256 01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:54,519 Speaker 4: to have a washer and dryer, and I had just 2257 01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:56,679 Speaker 4: came from Europe. I went stretching that crib. 2258 01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:58,880 Speaker 2: I got launched, and I was like, nigger. 2259 01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:03,479 Speaker 4: I wrote some chords and I said, okay, y'all finish it. 2260 01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:06,639 Speaker 4: I went to the laundry room and did laundry while 2261 01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:09,320 Speaker 4: they were writing a song. And in the middle of that, 2262 01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:12,360 Speaker 4: I had Loupe come over to their house to meet 2263 01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:14,920 Speaker 4: up with him to give him the idea I had 2264 01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:17,800 Speaker 4: for him to do what he's gonna do for the record. 2265 01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:20,400 Speaker 4: And then I had Most come over a little bit later. 2266 01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:22,400 Speaker 4: So they were freaking out. They were like, what, oh 2267 01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:24,599 Speaker 4: my god. You know, Most came over a little bit 2268 01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:26,920 Speaker 4: later so I could tell him, Hey, this is what 2269 01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:29,000 Speaker 4: I'm thinking about doing blah blah blah blah tomorrow when 2270 01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:30,519 Speaker 4: you come to you know, blah blah blah blah blah. 2271 01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:33,759 Speaker 4: But that's and then literally that's just how that happened. 2272 01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:37,120 Speaker 4: That that process was black Radio one was a five 2273 01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:40,800 Speaker 4: was five days of recording, and then Black Radio two 2274 01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:42,240 Speaker 4: was like six days of recording. 2275 01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:45,800 Speaker 2: You know, man on Black Radio two. We have to 2276 01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:50,679 Speaker 2: ask a guest that we had earlier was music Lord 2277 01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:57,080 Speaker 2: Jesus does music like ah yeah, oh, because. 2278 01:54:00,400 --> 01:54:04,000 Speaker 3: A little's a real gall that. 2279 01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:07,920 Speaker 2: You don't like it what he says, you don't like you. 2280 01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:12,400 Speaker 2: So he has a he has a very complex relationship 2281 01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:13,679 Speaker 2: with his back catalog. 2282 01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:14,880 Speaker 4: Okay, when we had. 2283 01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:17,559 Speaker 10: Him on the show, we didn't specifically ask him about 2284 01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:20,400 Speaker 10: this song. So no, he didn't slander. Now, we didn't 2285 01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:23,280 Speaker 10: ask about this song. But no, that ship as hard 2286 01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:23,679 Speaker 10: as fuck. 2287 01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:26,640 Speaker 2: But like, what was there? Was it like recording that? 2288 01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:28,240 Speaker 2: Did he into it? 2289 01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:30,160 Speaker 4: Or what was it he loved? Matter of fact, last 2290 01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:31,960 Speaker 4: time I saw him live, I was just happen to 2291 01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:34,360 Speaker 4: be in Oakland and I saw he was at Yo 2292 01:54:34,520 --> 01:54:36,040 Speaker 4: She's and I just walked in and he was playing 2293 01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:39,120 Speaker 4: all yeah, he was singing he liked it, you like it? 2294 01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:45,480 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's another universe. That's another universe thing. Because 2295 01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:48,200 Speaker 4: I flew to Atlanta, I did the music already. I 2296 01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:52,200 Speaker 4: flew to Atlanta so he could write the song. And 2297 01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:55,280 Speaker 4: we went to the studio, and that's why he liked it. 2298 01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:57,839 Speaker 4: The first night, the first night we were in the studio, 2299 01:54:58,120 --> 01:55:00,520 Speaker 4: he came up with the hook and oh blah, there 2300 01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:03,800 Speaker 4: were We had another night. So the next day, matter 2301 01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:05,520 Speaker 4: of fact, you have something to do with this Fonte. 2302 01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:06,800 Speaker 4: We never talked about this. 2303 01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:09,080 Speaker 3: Okay, because I'm tired of I know, I think I 2304 01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:09,880 Speaker 3: know what this is. 2305 01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:11,280 Speaker 2: If it's okay, go ahead. 2306 01:55:11,960 --> 01:55:13,680 Speaker 3: I was in Atlanta and the. 2307 01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:16,760 Speaker 4: Next day you, for an exchange, was having a show 2308 01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:19,400 Speaker 4: at some festival or something in Atlanta. 2309 01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:23,480 Speaker 2: Yo, that's right, because we hit you. 2310 01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:26,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you came on stage and I came sat in 2311 01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:26,680 Speaker 4: with y'all. 2312 01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:28,880 Speaker 2: Hell yeah that It was dope as fun, I remember. 2313 01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:31,320 Speaker 4: And Christte Michelle was there. I think she played after you, 2314 01:55:31,960 --> 01:55:36,040 Speaker 4: Yes she did. I stopped for seven I didn't. First 2315 01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:44,720 Speaker 4: of all, don't I'm. 2316 01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:46,840 Speaker 9: I love all of black radio. I love all black radio. 2317 01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:48,720 Speaker 2: Because that was that was shout out to jo dene 2318 01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:50,920 Speaker 2: On that Jodine hit me. Jody, she hit me. 2319 01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:56,760 Speaker 10: Because at the time our keyboard player and mb Zoo 2320 01:55:57,040 --> 01:55:59,600 Speaker 10: he had like another gig. He has something to do. 2321 01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:02,120 Speaker 10: It's like the only f gig you ever ever missed, 2322 01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:05,720 Speaker 10: And and she was like yo, Joe name was like yo, 2323 01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:08,600 Speaker 10: so Robert, would you mind if he just come up? 2324 01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:10,560 Speaker 10: I was like rob ro was She's like glass. 2325 01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:13,640 Speaker 4: I was like hell yeah, yes, yeah, that's my nigga. 2326 01:56:13,720 --> 01:56:14,320 Speaker 2: Tell me to come on. 2327 01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:15,840 Speaker 3: And so from that is it. 2328 01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:19,600 Speaker 4: From sitting in with you, Chrissette saw me. It was 2329 01:56:19,640 --> 01:56:21,080 Speaker 4: like I saw her after that. I was like, Yo, 2330 01:56:21,160 --> 01:56:21,600 Speaker 4: what's up? 2331 01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:22,480 Speaker 2: What the fuck? 2332 01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:23,440 Speaker 3: She was like, oh, my bust. 2333 01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:25,520 Speaker 4: And she was like, I was going to fly back 2334 01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:27,440 Speaker 4: to New York, but it was a storm in New York, 2335 01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:31,960 Speaker 4: really best Sandy, Hurricane Sandy, and she was like, I 2336 01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:34,440 Speaker 4: can't fly back to New York, so I'm gonna be 2337 01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:36,680 Speaker 4: here nextra day. What are you doing? I was like, Yo, 2338 01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:40,600 Speaker 4: I'm in the studio, Come hang out, come by. She 2339 01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:42,760 Speaker 4: came by the studio and I handed her up in 2340 01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:45,040 Speaker 4: the pad. That was like right the second verse. So 2341 01:56:45,160 --> 01:56:49,440 Speaker 4: that's literally how oh yeah. It came about the two 2342 01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:52,600 Speaker 4: her being on it because originally just music, but literally 2343 01:56:52,640 --> 01:56:54,360 Speaker 4: came about because I came to sit in with you 2344 01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:55,440 Speaker 4: and Chrissette. 2345 01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:59,080 Speaker 2: Was there, watch God work Robert. 2346 01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:04,240 Speaker 4: Next, I'm like Radio two. The Bill Withers thing. Bill 2347 01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:08,480 Speaker 4: Withers came to the so for a random for some 2348 01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:11,960 Speaker 4: random reason, Casey when we set up at the studio 2349 01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:14,680 Speaker 4: was like, yo, let's do let's play Lovely Day for 2350 01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:17,840 Speaker 4: the sound check. And I was like, okay, we literally 2351 01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:21,400 Speaker 4: never played Lovely Day A right, Okay, what are the 2352 01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:23,240 Speaker 4: changes the game? You showed me the change. 2353 01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:25,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, cool. So we just took did one take 2354 01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:26,880 Speaker 3: down Lovely Day. 2355 01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:29,480 Speaker 4: Boom. That's literally what you hear on the fucking album 2356 01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:32,240 Speaker 4: on the on the extended version. There's a Black Radio 2357 01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:34,920 Speaker 4: two then as extended. So anyway, one of the guys 2358 01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:36,960 Speaker 4: there was like, yo, I know Bill, I'm gonna call 2359 01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:39,520 Speaker 4: up and tell him you did that. I was like, okay, cool, 2360 01:57:40,840 --> 01:57:44,880 Speaker 4: call Bill. Everybody didn't call Bill. He called Bill, put 2361 01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:46,320 Speaker 4: me on the phone with him. He was like, yeah, 2362 01:57:46,360 --> 01:57:47,960 Speaker 4: young man, I wish i could come to hear your song, 2363 01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:50,200 Speaker 4: but you know I'm feeling a little sick or whatever. 2364 01:57:50,240 --> 01:57:52,440 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, okay, no problem, man, honor, honor 2365 01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:55,040 Speaker 4: that you even took the time to talk whatever. Cool. 2366 01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:59,560 Speaker 4: So fast forward the next day, Uh, who's that I 2367 01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:02,160 Speaker 4: was going to I'm in in uh Macy Gray, I think. 2368 01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:06,080 Speaker 4: The next day and Rash was writing his rhyme and 2369 01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:09,320 Speaker 4: he ended up having like a writer's block in one part. 2370 01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:12,560 Speaker 4: So we were just upstairs chilling, kind of talking shit 2371 01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:15,400 Speaker 4: or whatever, and up walk up up the stairs Bill 2372 01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:16,080 Speaker 4: Withers walk in. 2373 01:58:17,200 --> 01:58:20,040 Speaker 3: Wow, Like what dude? 2374 01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:23,400 Speaker 4: He walks in and he's like, well, let me hear 2375 01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:27,080 Speaker 4: this song? Like, oh shit, okay. So we go to 2376 01:58:27,160 --> 01:58:30,480 Speaker 4: the downstairs the studio play on the song. He's like, yeah, 2377 01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:33,000 Speaker 4: I like the song. Like what y'all did with it? Bluhm, 2378 01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:36,480 Speaker 4: and then talk to us for three hours straight. 2379 01:58:37,120 --> 01:58:39,840 Speaker 2: Stories just stories and stories. 2380 01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:42,520 Speaker 4: And stories, got all video story and story story From that. 2381 01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:45,240 Speaker 4: Rashid was sitting behind him with a pin in the 2382 01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:48,120 Speaker 4: pad writing some of what Bill was writing down singing. 2383 01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:52,520 Speaker 4: So Rash's second verse when I stand Alone from Blackbird Too, 2384 01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:58,400 Speaker 4: really is a lot of Bill Withers words. I mean, wow, 2385 01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:01,360 Speaker 4: go listen to it right after this. 2386 01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:05,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of our bucket lists. 2387 01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:05,720 Speaker 3: Man. 2388 01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:07,160 Speaker 2: I hate we never got a chance to get him 2389 01:59:07,160 --> 01:59:07,680 Speaker 2: for your past. 2390 01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:11,800 Speaker 1: Man, I want to deal what is on cres So, Rob, 2391 01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:17,080 Speaker 1: are there any like, is there any I mean besides 2392 01:59:17,120 --> 01:59:21,600 Speaker 1: the eventual collaboration now you'll do with your son yep, 2393 01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:22,400 Speaker 1: for sure. 2394 01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:25,360 Speaker 3: Are there any bucket list projects that. 2395 01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:30,680 Speaker 1: You you have yet to you know, are you going 2396 01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:32,840 Speaker 1: to do a forraae into classical music? 2397 01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:37,840 Speaker 3: Will you? You know what guitar and I don't know. 2398 01:59:38,560 --> 01:59:40,360 Speaker 10: I would like to hear Robert Glass would take on 2399 01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:48,160 Speaker 10: like a Brazilian love affair, not a cover app not 2400 01:59:48,280 --> 01:59:50,040 Speaker 10: covering that, but you know something in that. 2401 01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:51,320 Speaker 2: You know your own ship, but. 2402 01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:57,920 Speaker 3: Just that like the movie, like the movie Lady, My 2403 01:59:58,080 --> 01:59:58,840 Speaker 3: Lady is Cuban. 2404 01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:03,160 Speaker 4: Okay, So I went to Cuba hints we have a 2405 02:00:03,240 --> 02:00:05,200 Speaker 4: kid and Cuba. 2406 02:00:07,280 --> 02:00:07,640 Speaker 3: She took me. 2407 02:00:07,680 --> 02:00:09,320 Speaker 4: I didn't beat the Cuba, but she took me to 2408 02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:13,320 Speaker 4: Cuba in November to see the vibe and go to 2409 02:00:13,400 --> 02:00:15,000 Speaker 4: see the music of the clubs and everything. It was 2410 02:00:15,080 --> 02:00:18,280 Speaker 4: so fucking inspiring, bro, Like the musicians out there are 2411 02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:19,680 Speaker 4: fucking incredible. 2412 02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:22,680 Speaker 9: You got to see like the whole Apro Cuban, all 2413 02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:22,960 Speaker 9: of it. 2414 02:00:23,160 --> 02:00:25,440 Speaker 4: All of all of it. I even got cool with 2415 02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:27,520 Speaker 4: Chucho because that I've been to Chucho's crib and we 2416 02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:30,880 Speaker 4: hung out and played, you know what I mean, like crazy. 2417 02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:33,360 Speaker 4: So I want to do like a I definitely want 2418 02:00:33,400 --> 02:00:37,680 Speaker 4: to do a like a a project like my ship 2419 02:00:37,960 --> 02:00:39,960 Speaker 4: meaning Cuba, you know what I mean, Like. 2420 02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:43,640 Speaker 6: Red Hot back in the day, you know. 2421 02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:46,960 Speaker 4: Red Hot wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely want 2422 02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:48,680 Speaker 4: to do something like that where it brings that that 2423 02:00:49,080 --> 02:00:52,360 Speaker 4: that sound together because so many people take from Cuban musicians, 2424 02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:54,400 Speaker 4: but you don't see the musicians because the motherfuckers can't 2425 02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:56,040 Speaker 4: come over here, you know what I mean? 2426 02:00:58,680 --> 02:00:59,240 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 2427 02:00:59,400 --> 02:01:01,480 Speaker 4: That parts I was like, yeah, man, I was learning 2428 02:01:01,520 --> 02:01:03,400 Speaker 4: so much from her about the culture and everything, and 2429 02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:06,080 Speaker 4: so it's so deep and rich and so dope, you 2430 02:01:06,120 --> 02:01:08,960 Speaker 4: know what I mean. But also I thought a Brazilian 2431 02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:10,440 Speaker 4: one too, bro, Like I want to do something. 2432 02:01:10,920 --> 02:01:13,320 Speaker 3: It's just like you know, the. 2433 02:01:13,440 --> 02:01:16,000 Speaker 4: Chords in Brazilian music, you just be like, oh, you know, 2434 02:01:16,280 --> 02:01:20,360 Speaker 4: just over the thing. So many Yeah, yeah, I have 2435 02:01:20,440 --> 02:01:22,480 Speaker 4: so many. But I have so many projects in my mind. 2436 02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:25,160 Speaker 4: That one that I want to I want to get done, 2437 02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:27,560 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But you know, I definitely 2438 02:01:27,560 --> 02:01:30,000 Speaker 4: want to. I want to do an official, like some ship, 2439 02:01:30,040 --> 02:01:32,800 Speaker 4: an official thing with the roots, a real one, you 2440 02:01:32,840 --> 02:01:34,520 Speaker 4: know what I mean. I've sat in so many years, 2441 02:01:35,000 --> 02:01:37,520 Speaker 4: but I attribute a lot of people asking me, like 2442 02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:40,400 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like where am I? Where 2443 02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:43,480 Speaker 4: my sensibilities come for playing hip hop and things like that? 2444 02:01:43,560 --> 02:01:45,320 Speaker 4: How I got into it because I wasn't. I wasn't 2445 02:01:45,320 --> 02:01:47,040 Speaker 4: playing hip hop when I was in Houston. I just 2446 02:01:47,080 --> 02:01:49,080 Speaker 4: started playing hip hop until I got to New York 2447 02:01:49,360 --> 02:01:51,320 Speaker 4: and but I'll started taking me to y'all jam sessions. 2448 02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:52,960 Speaker 4: And my first time playing hip hop with a band 2449 02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:54,920 Speaker 4: was with you, you know what I mean. Like, So 2450 02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:57,720 Speaker 4: I got a chance to play with the roots a lot, 2451 02:01:57,880 --> 02:02:00,360 Speaker 4: which trained me in that in that old and to 2452 02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:02,920 Speaker 4: sit there and watch James Poyson and you know and 2453 02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:05,800 Speaker 4: watch June you know what I mean, play you know 2454 02:02:05,840 --> 02:02:08,280 Speaker 4: what I mean, like them cats and and the Mirror 2455 02:02:08,280 --> 02:02:11,720 Speaker 4: and that that really train. That's part of my part 2456 02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:12,480 Speaker 4: of my whole ship. 2457 02:02:13,000 --> 02:02:14,080 Speaker 3: You say nothing by the word. 2458 02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:18,120 Speaker 10: Let's do it, And don't be looking out to glass. 2459 02:02:18,120 --> 02:02:20,840 Speaker 10: We'n be hitting you up. We're in the process. I 2460 02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:22,640 Speaker 10: was putting the buggy here now since you're in LA, 2461 02:02:23,160 --> 02:02:26,120 Speaker 10: we're trying to figure out somehow trying to write a 2462 02:02:26,160 --> 02:02:28,640 Speaker 10: sketch for season two of Sherman Showcase. 2463 02:02:29,280 --> 02:02:31,400 Speaker 2: And we want we want you to be we want 2464 02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:32,640 Speaker 2: you to play thelonious month. 2465 02:02:35,120 --> 02:02:35,800 Speaker 3: We don't know how. 2466 02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:36,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, so. 2467 02:02:39,640 --> 02:02:41,400 Speaker 2: Just gonna get ready. 2468 02:02:45,640 --> 02:02:46,600 Speaker 3: Sherman Showcase. 2469 02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:48,720 Speaker 4: Yo. 2470 02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:52,120 Speaker 5: Can I just a little suggestion for the Emir Robert 2471 02:02:52,160 --> 02:02:54,160 Speaker 5: Glassford thing. I don't know if you recall, Robert, but 2472 02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:56,080 Speaker 5: there was a Roots picnic about. 2473 02:02:56,320 --> 02:02:59,320 Speaker 6: What was that side six years ago? Did you performed that. 2474 02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:00,520 Speaker 4: In the morning? 2475 02:03:01,160 --> 02:03:02,640 Speaker 9: Okay, so you remember telling me. 2476 02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:05,360 Speaker 5: I remember I was talking to you and Marcia and 2477 02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:07,200 Speaker 5: I asked you, like, you know, what, what was you 2478 02:03:07,320 --> 02:03:08,480 Speaker 5: like as far as the Ruce pic and he was like, 2479 02:03:08,480 --> 02:03:10,680 Speaker 5: I would really like to perform when it gets dark outside. 2480 02:03:12,320 --> 02:03:12,520 Speaker 7: I was. 2481 02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:16,640 Speaker 5: I was just like for you to also take this moment. 2482 02:03:16,640 --> 02:03:19,000 Speaker 5: I'm like when the Bruce picnic come back outside. 2483 02:03:18,920 --> 02:03:21,240 Speaker 4: Said look, they were setting up tables and ship like. 2484 02:03:23,080 --> 02:03:24,960 Speaker 2: Performed for the food truck man. 2485 02:03:25,760 --> 02:03:30,160 Speaker 3: I was like, Robert, even I don't attend the first 2486 02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:31,080 Speaker 3: U picnic. 2487 02:03:31,640 --> 02:03:36,320 Speaker 10: Was gotten there yet early it was yeah, no, none 2488 02:03:36,360 --> 02:03:38,680 Speaker 10: of the cat hadn't even got none of the cabiney. 2489 02:03:38,920 --> 02:03:40,960 Speaker 4: So let everybody seems to be like, yo, you're playing. 2490 02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:42,800 Speaker 4: I was like, I played nine hours earlier. 2491 02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:44,920 Speaker 3: All day, poor. 2492 02:03:44,800 --> 02:03:47,920 Speaker 9: Baby was there all was a there on Front Street. 2493 02:03:47,920 --> 02:03:49,280 Speaker 5: Because I'm like, in a way too, I don't know 2494 02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:52,400 Speaker 5: how much he's gotten a real live, great Black radio live. 2495 02:03:53,920 --> 02:03:56,000 Speaker 9: I was just saying, when if we could like recreate something, 2496 02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:57,840 Speaker 9: were you not part of. 2497 02:03:57,880 --> 02:04:03,280 Speaker 3: The the joint I did with Esperanza or was that 2498 02:04:03,680 --> 02:04:08,760 Speaker 3: not you? Okay? Because you that was probably ramming. 2499 02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:11,760 Speaker 4: See see I had to go on a good path. 2500 02:04:11,840 --> 02:04:12,320 Speaker 9: So back to the. 2501 02:04:13,960 --> 02:04:14,160 Speaker 3: Bus. 2502 02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:17,960 Speaker 9: Now this is this is no, no, no, we're doing 2503 02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:21,800 Speaker 9: some boting. Come on building picnic for twenty twenty one 2504 02:04:22,160 --> 02:04:23,880 Speaker 9: Robert Hill in. 2505 02:04:23,880 --> 02:04:27,040 Speaker 1: The studio first and then we'll we're in the next 2506 02:04:27,120 --> 02:04:30,960 Speaker 1: routs picnic lu by the office. So that's where we 2507 02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:32,320 Speaker 1: can have a roots picnic. 2508 02:04:32,680 --> 02:04:36,080 Speaker 4: Oh there you go. Yeah, exactly, there's that that part 2509 02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:38,080 Speaker 4: part to twenty one. 2510 02:04:38,160 --> 02:04:42,920 Speaker 3: I said twenty all right, well it's so it probably 2511 02:04:42,920 --> 02:04:43,680 Speaker 3: will be twenty two. 2512 02:04:43,800 --> 02:04:47,640 Speaker 9: But yes, whatever, I just I want ribery class in 2513 02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:48,040 Speaker 9: the roots. 2514 02:04:48,040 --> 02:04:50,840 Speaker 4: I was just saying, boom, let's do it, let's go yo, 2515 02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:53,400 Speaker 4: I'm here. Whatever happened to that? Did that thing ever 2516 02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:56,240 Speaker 4: come out that we did in Dallas with the orchestra? 2517 02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:57,040 Speaker 3: You know what? 2518 02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:00,360 Speaker 4: You know, it's weird. 2519 02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:06,800 Speaker 1: Shaka's portion made it on YouTube. I don't you're Your 2520 02:05:06,840 --> 02:05:10,520 Speaker 1: guess is as good as mine. I think whoever like 2521 02:05:10,760 --> 02:05:13,480 Speaker 1: underwrote that like put it out for quarantine entertainment. But 2522 02:05:14,360 --> 02:05:16,800 Speaker 1: that's a good question. No, it hasn't officially come out, 2523 02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:19,840 Speaker 1: but that too, I think I did a piece with Erica. 2524 02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:23,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, we did Erica, you Shaka Khan and the Roots 2525 02:05:23,760 --> 02:05:28,920 Speaker 3: in the Dallas. Uh yeah, yeah it was. We did 2526 02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:33,280 Speaker 3: some amazing stuff together. So you know, Dog, you know 2527 02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:36,520 Speaker 3: you're my favorite. Absolutely, we're going to do ship together. 2528 02:05:36,720 --> 02:05:37,040 Speaker 4: Let's go. 2529 02:05:37,960 --> 02:05:40,360 Speaker 3: Let us go, Yo, Rob We thank you for doing 2530 02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:47,880 Speaker 3: Questions finally two parter. 2531 02:05:49,520 --> 02:05:53,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so on behalf of Sugar Steve, Laya Fangelo and 2532 02:05:54,040 --> 02:05:57,800 Speaker 1: uh unpaid bills somewhere. We also like to give a 2533 02:05:57,880 --> 02:06:01,520 Speaker 1: shout out to our our pals at Mazda and they're 2534 02:06:01,640 --> 02:06:04,960 Speaker 1: glorious X thirty No, thank you very much, Robert. 2535 02:06:05,000 --> 02:06:08,760 Speaker 2: We appreciate congratulations again on you on your daughter. Man, 2536 02:06:08,800 --> 02:06:11,560 Speaker 2: I have what's what's her name? 2537 02:06:11,920 --> 02:06:20,200 Speaker 4: Her name is Lola, oh lol, Lola? Oh yeah, may Riley. 2538 02:06:20,360 --> 02:06:23,680 Speaker 4: He's a lot going forty three, going off forty three 2539 02:06:23,720 --> 02:06:25,720 Speaker 4: exactly for sure. 2540 02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:28,440 Speaker 3: All right, this is quest Love and we'll see you 2541 02:06:28,480 --> 02:06:41,280 Speaker 3: on the next go round. Quest Love Supreme. What's Love 2542 02:06:41,320 --> 02:06:43,720 Speaker 3: Supreme is a production of iHeart Radio. 2543 02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:50,040 Speaker 12: For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, 2544 02:06:50,280 --> 02:06:53,320 Speaker 12: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.