WEBVTT - Takeaways from the 2026 U.S. Open with Trevor Immelman

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<v Speaker 1>I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When

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<v Speaker 1>I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I find my ball in a brid egg

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<v Speaker 1>Lie, I'm about ready to run off the golf course.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to another edition of the Friday Golf Podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I am your host, Andy Johnson, and as always, following

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<v Speaker 3>our major championship coverage, I am joined by the great

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<v Speaker 3>Trevor Immelman. Uh to break down this year's US Open.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a thrill ride of a Sunday with Wyndham

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<v Speaker 3>Clark eventually holding on over Sam Burns to win the

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<v Speaker 3>US Open, his second US Open title amidst a very

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<v Speaker 3>unique and interesting crowd in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a bit hostile towards Window Clark.

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<v Speaker 3>So we break down the tournament together and kind of

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<v Speaker 3>talk about everything from Window Clark's you know, come back here,

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<v Speaker 3>to the fan behavior and as well as you know,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of all the other main characters at this year's

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<v Speaker 3>To Trevor Immlement. All right, Trevor, the twenty twenty sixth

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<v Speaker 3>US Opens. In the books, Wyndham Clark had a really

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<v Speaker 3>thrilling win. I think it was kind of a roller

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<v Speaker 3>coaster ride for fans, not knowing really what's.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>And you, for the first time this year, were a

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<v Speaker 3>real fan. You were watching from your couch, you weren't

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<v Speaker 3>working the telecast. What are your big picture thoughts of

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<v Speaker 3>the US Open and what was it like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>get this at your own schedule for the first time

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<v Speaker 3>in a while for a major.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Andy, it was awesome. I mean, look, I'm such

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<v Speaker 2>a golf nut that any way, shape or form that

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<v Speaker 2>that I could be a part of it. I love it,

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<v Speaker 2>whether I'm a fan at home sitting on the couch

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<v Speaker 2>like I was for this US Open, or whether I'm

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<v Speaker 2>on site working the broadcast. I just love seeing great

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<v Speaker 2>historic golf courses, good tests for these guys, the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>championships in the world. You know, you could really feel

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<v Speaker 2>all week that it means something to be at Shinnecock.

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<v Speaker 2>It means something to be able to play in the

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<v Speaker 2>US Open, and so I got a real kick out

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<v Speaker 2>of that. And then you add to that how it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of works alongside Father's Day, which gives you an

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<v Speaker 2>excuse to spend even more hours on the couch, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I had a blast. Man. I thought the build

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<v Speaker 2>up was fantastic, the anticipation of this great venue, with

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<v Speaker 2>the weather and the wind, and how the golf course

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<v Speaker 2>was going to play, who's inform, who's struggling, who can

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<v Speaker 2>play in all these crosswinds. There was so much great

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<v Speaker 2>build up to follow along with. And then, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the beauty of live sports is you never quite know

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<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen once the tournament starts. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the first day was obviously a little different to what

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<v Speaker 2>we anticipated with that afternoon wave. Rarely getting a good

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<v Speaker 2>break and having some great opportunities to make some birdies.

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<v Speaker 2>But the USGA overall, for me, did a fantastic job.

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<v Speaker 2>Man every day just started ratcheting up the pressure and

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<v Speaker 2>the shot quality that these guys needed to hit in

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<v Speaker 2>order to survive and make a few birdies. And so

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<v Speaker 2>it was. It was marvelous. I loved it. I loved

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<v Speaker 2>everything about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, if we zero in on the

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<v Speaker 3>course before we get to window Clark and kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the feet of winning his second US Open title, I

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<v Speaker 3>felt like the knives were out from people that were

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<v Speaker 3>kind of watching, uh not on the grounds.

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<v Speaker 1>The knives were out, ready to pounce.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's just, you know this I think sentiment that

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<v Speaker 3>that's grown that the US Open. We want the carnage

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<v Speaker 3>back in the US Open. And I think everybody anticipated

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<v Speaker 3>Shinnacock being this car, this course that's going to dole

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<v Speaker 3>out carnage, especially with the wind forecasts. And meanwhile you

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<v Speaker 3>had this other organization that the last two times they've

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<v Speaker 3>been at Shitacock, they've had some controversies in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>the setup, and it was this kind of almost mismatch

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<v Speaker 3>in expectations. I feel like from the from the fan

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<v Speaker 3>to the to the the tournament host, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>we got there at the end to where everybody it

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<v Speaker 3>seemed like everybody was happy at the end, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was it was a ride where there was some disgruntled

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<v Speaker 3>fans or spectators or interested parties along the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure. I mean looked like you say. A

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<v Speaker 2>large part of that is because of the two previous

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<v Speaker 2>US Opens that were held at Chinnecock Hills. Four. I

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<v Speaker 2>played in that one, it was one of my first

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<v Speaker 2>US Opens, and then eighteen where both times, you know, shucks.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember in four getting to that seventh tee and

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<v Speaker 2>having to wait on the tee as they were watering

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<v Speaker 2>the green because guys were just putting it off into

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<v Speaker 2>the bunker, and so they kind of lost the course

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<v Speaker 2>that time around. Happened again in eighteen. Some some unbelievable

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<v Speaker 2>footage there of interviews from players as they're coming off

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<v Speaker 2>the greens. Remember Zach Johnson. You remember Phil running after

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<v Speaker 2>the ball and hitting it while it's still moving. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I think the usj were aware of that, and

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<v Speaker 2>they knew that they had to get this right. They

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<v Speaker 2>could not go three in a row and have something

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<v Speaker 2>untoward happened, and so they were probably a little defensive,

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<v Speaker 2>and I totally get that. I understand that, but I

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<v Speaker 2>agree with you. You know, at the end of the week,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got three players under par, winners at four under,

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<v Speaker 2>and they did a marvelous job, great job just controlling

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<v Speaker 2>the firmness. I would have loved to have seen the Greens'

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<v Speaker 2>hair faster, but it's just so difficult when you're that

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<v Speaker 2>close to the water to judge and know with certainty

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<v Speaker 2>how strong the wind is going to be. And as

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<v Speaker 2>you start getting the greens firmer, if that wind just

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<v Speaker 2>kicks up a few miles an hour more than what

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<v Speaker 2>you're anticipating or preparing for, then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 2>you may have to stop playing because balls are moving.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I totally get it. And at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the week, I took my cap to the USGA

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<v Speaker 2>and really appreciate what they did to get through the

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<v Speaker 2>week unscathed and allow for a perfect championship to take place.

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<v Speaker 3>For you, as somebody's who's played the vast majority of

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<v Speaker 3>these US Open courses, I mean I think they've you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they've pretty much locked in their their regular championship sites

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<v Speaker 3>Shittacock Hills is a once to ten year site for them,

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<v Speaker 3>which feels like kind of the right cadence for the

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<v Speaker 3>club and the USGA in terms of after while it's

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<v Speaker 3>fresh in your mind, where where do you think it

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<v Speaker 3>falls in terms of the host sites that the USGA has.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's up there in so many ways. The history,

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<v Speaker 2>the clubhouse, the golf course, the routing, the green complexes

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<v Speaker 2>are phenomenal. I loved what Bodenhammer said earlier in the

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<v Speaker 2>week in his press conference, which I thought was really

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<v Speaker 2>cool when he explained, you know, the test in Shinnecock

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<v Speaker 2>is it asks more questions and it gets tougher the

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<v Speaker 2>closer you get to the green. In a lot of ways,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little bit like Augusta National in that sense

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<v Speaker 2>where you've got a little bit of space, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>some room to be an artist, but you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>you get down to the greens, you're really going to

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<v Speaker 2>have to have great nerve. And I enjoyed that aspect

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<v Speaker 2>of it, and really even you can look to the

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<v Speaker 2>final hole of the tournament, Wyndham's got this one shot lead.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't hit the best of drives, He's coming out

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<v Speaker 2>the rough. He's now got to guess how fast this

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<v Speaker 2>ball is going to come out. He knows if he

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<v Speaker 2>goes along, very difficult up and down, so he's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to tiptoe up to the front and keep it on

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<v Speaker 2>the green, does that and then still has such a

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<v Speaker 2>difficult two put in order to win the tournament with

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<v Speaker 2>all that pressure on the line. So it's just just

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<v Speaker 2>a marvelous venue. And I think, you know, we're like

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<v Speaker 2>the one in every ten years, one in every eight years.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of like that for a venue like Shinnecock

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<v Speaker 2>Hills because it maintains the mystique about the place and

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<v Speaker 2>it allows people to really look forward to getting to

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<v Speaker 2>see it on TV or getting to see it as

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<v Speaker 2>a fan if you get on site for the US Open.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it works really well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that the cadence of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not the biggest fan of the you know, we're

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<v Speaker 3>going back to Pinehurst in two years, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like that's almost too quick where it's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it was two years ago we watched that, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>given how big the country is and how many great

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<v Speaker 3>golf courses there are in America, it feels like some

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<v Speaker 3>regional diversity and course diversity is in there, you know now,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you have, you know, on the other end

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<v Speaker 3>of the spectrum. You know, what a venue I thought

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<v Speaker 3>was marvelous a couple of years ago was the country

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<v Speaker 3>Club and it seems like they're on the once every

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<v Speaker 3>twenty year, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of rotation. So it's interesting how they've set it up.

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<v Speaker 3>I would agree with you about it being at the

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<v Speaker 3>top or near the top. I think the thing that

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<v Speaker 3>I took away from it is I really like and

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<v Speaker 3>this is just a personal taste, and I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>different people have different tastes, but I really like the

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<v Speaker 3>venues where you can pass the first test, which is

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<v Speaker 3>the t shot, where hey, if I'm driving the ball

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<v Speaker 3>great at Shitnacock Hills, there's a real chance that I'll

0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:12.280
<v Speaker 3>hit every shot on a day from the fairway, and

0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:16.080
<v Speaker 3>if I'm driving it awesome making good decisions that feels

0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.520
<v Speaker 3>like something that should be achievable if you have a

0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:25.360
<v Speaker 3>spectacular day, you know. And with that though, that's where

0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.360
<v Speaker 3>it gets so challenging. And as you said, you know,

0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:33.120
<v Speaker 3>in both recounting Bodenhammer, you know, it gets more difficult

0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.480
<v Speaker 3>the closer you get to the hole. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's the fascinating thing about about Shitnacock is just there

0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.640
<v Speaker 3>are real questions about where where do I lay this?

0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.400
<v Speaker 3>And I think like we did a thing with Ben

0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Griffin before the before the week where he was talking

0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:54.520
<v Speaker 3>about ten and he went into a marvelous detail about

0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.240
<v Speaker 3>the tenth hole about what what you know, you know,

0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:00.240
<v Speaker 3>I could lay back, I could go down, and by

0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.560
<v Speaker 3>the end you could tell he kind of got to

0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.080
<v Speaker 3>this point and he said something along the lines of,

0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't really know what the right thing

0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.000
<v Speaker 3>to do is. And I think there are a lot

0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:14.680
<v Speaker 3>of situations at Shinnacock that leave you with that, yeah,

0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:18.360
<v Speaker 3>of I'm not sure I played that right. If you

0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:22.480
<v Speaker 3>made a birdie, you definitely think you played it right, but.

0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Like you may not.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's what makes it such a compelling

0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.360
<v Speaker 3>venue in terms of, you know, the wind direction changes

0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.680
<v Speaker 3>and it completely shifts the dynamics of of what to

0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.880
<v Speaker 3>do or what you know is the ideal play on

0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:37.560
<v Speaker 3>a given hole.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that tenth hole to me is it's got to

0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.920
<v Speaker 2>be one of the best holes in championship golf. It's

0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.600
<v Speaker 2>so much fun. You know, we don't see it all

0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.680
<v Speaker 2>that often anymore. I know you and I are on

0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:56.160
<v Speaker 2>the same side of the distance debate and technology debate,

0:15:56.280 --> 0:16:01.640
<v Speaker 2>but it's not often you see anymore where the players

0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:07.120
<v Speaker 2>of this generation have to think so much about strategy

0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:11.000
<v Speaker 2>and trying to figure out what the best way is

0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:14.160
<v Speaker 2>to unlock a golf hole and have an opportunity at

0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.160
<v Speaker 2>the very least to make four pars in a hole

0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:18.560
<v Speaker 2>and not blow yourself out of making a cut or

0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:22.480
<v Speaker 2>blow yourself out of winning the tournament. And you know,

0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:25.440
<v Speaker 2>we saw everything there. We saw mid irons off the tea,

0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:29.480
<v Speaker 2>we saw fairway woods, we saw driving irons, we saw drivers,

0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.920
<v Speaker 2>We saw guys laying back and leaving themselves one hundred

0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.880
<v Speaker 2>and ninety yards to the hole. We saw Rory almost

0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:39.360
<v Speaker 2>drive it on the green on Saturday, and then he

0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:43.600
<v Speaker 2>missed the green on his second shot Like this. It's

0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:48.000
<v Speaker 2>one of those holes where just bombing it way down

0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:51.400
<v Speaker 2>there isn't always your best play, and unfortunately we see

0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.440
<v Speaker 2>that a lot in this modern game. And so I

0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:59.160
<v Speaker 2>just loved watching the tenth hole this week and seeing,

0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, you consider how Wyndham played the tenth hole

0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:06.640
<v Speaker 2>yesterday with the little chippy drive things weren't going He's way.

0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.720
<v Speaker 2>It all made a nice up and down there at nine,

0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:12.359
<v Speaker 2>but he had coughed up the majority of the lead

0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:16.040
<v Speaker 2>and he hits up like a real golf shot off

0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:19.919
<v Speaker 2>the tee, not a full steam driver. He took probably

0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:25.040
<v Speaker 2>fifteen to twenty miles an hour of speed off for

0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:29.479
<v Speaker 2>that and managed to coax it down that little funnel

0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.560
<v Speaker 2>and get it running down there. And then the shot

0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.439
<v Speaker 2>he's hit, the control and the amount of spin that

0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.760
<v Speaker 2>he was able to generate from around seventy yards to

0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:39.800
<v Speaker 2>get that ball to land into the ridge and then

0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:44.000
<v Speaker 2>spin down to the hole. That was real golf right there.

0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:46.520
<v Speaker 2>And the fact that he and Scotty both birdied that

0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:48.320
<v Speaker 2>hole in the final round I thought was kind of

0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.400
<v Speaker 2>fun because we saw so many players coming undone there

0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:55.600
<v Speaker 2>throughout the week. I thoroughly enjoyed that tenth hole. It's

0:17:55.640 --> 0:18:00.200
<v Speaker 2>a beauty.

0:17:58.840 --> 0:17:59.480
<v Speaker 1>The tenth hole.

0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.520
<v Speaker 3>It was super pivotal in the in the tournament and

0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:06.040
<v Speaker 3>the last time we were at Shittacock we saw people

0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.879
<v Speaker 3>just like basically lose the tournament on the first hole

0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:14.000
<v Speaker 3>of their day on the tenth. This year on Saturday,

0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:17.359
<v Speaker 3>you saw Rory that where he hits that mammoth ty

0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.359
<v Speaker 3>shot almost drives the green, then he misses the green.

0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:21.800
<v Speaker 1>He leads to bogie.

0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:24.639
<v Speaker 3>That was kind of the start of the unraveling of

0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:28.200
<v Speaker 3>him from in the hunt to out of the tournament.

0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:33.800
<v Speaker 3>You saw Sam Burns, who is moving along and this is,

0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:37.080
<v Speaker 3>I think what you alluded to. I was following that

0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.280
<v Speaker 3>group and all of a sudden, I'm looking where he's

0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.600
<v Speaker 3>hitting from. I'm like, what do you mishitted off the tee?

0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.239
<v Speaker 3>Like how is he so far back? He has one

0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:49.280
<v Speaker 3>hundred and ninety plus into the green and he has

0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:52.040
<v Speaker 3>a really good shot, almost makes a birdie there. But

0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.800
<v Speaker 3>then you and I'm looking at the flag and I'm like,

0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't you know, this is something I think about,

0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, with players that have reached the level that

0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:04.520
<v Speaker 3>you've reached in your life, players that are playing there.

0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I look at that flag and I'm like.

0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:10.280
<v Speaker 3>There's nobody that's going to hit it remotely close to

0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:13.480
<v Speaker 3>this flag. The other one yesterday that I looked at

0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:15.639
<v Speaker 3>and I don't think anybody hit it really close to

0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.480
<v Speaker 3>that I saw was fifteen. I'm you know, under no

0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:21.960
<v Speaker 3>circumstances can you hit the ball close to this flag

0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:25.600
<v Speaker 3>but without fail, you know, one of these freaks always

0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.640
<v Speaker 3>hits it close to it and the Windom shot, I mean,

0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:32.159
<v Speaker 3>what the Scottie shot right before I'm watching it on

0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.840
<v Speaker 3>my phone. I'm like, my god, that was an incredible shot,

0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:37.920
<v Speaker 3>and then Windham hits it. I couldn't believe the amount

0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:39.560
<v Speaker 3>of spin he was able to generate on that.

0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:44.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I know. It's uh, you know, playing at

0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.760
<v Speaker 2>that level for a little while and now watching it

0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:52.280
<v Speaker 2>really up up close and observing all the intricacies of it,

0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:54.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, it is fascinating week after week to see

0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.680
<v Speaker 2>the shots that these guys hit under this sort of pressure.

0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.919
<v Speaker 2>I get a real kick out of watching. You go

0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:05.280
<v Speaker 2>back to the tenth hole. You know, Windom clock played

0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:08.120
<v Speaker 2>that hole in two under for the week. Sam Burns

0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:10.480
<v Speaker 2>played that hole in one over for the week. So

0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.720
<v Speaker 2>that's a three shot swing right there on the tenth.

0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:17.399
<v Speaker 2>I just love it when the best players in the

0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:22.040
<v Speaker 2>world get given options and then they can figure out

0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:26.720
<v Speaker 2>how they can use their weapons with the elements that

0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:32.160
<v Speaker 2>they have in that moment regarding firmness, wind, direction, where

0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:34.080
<v Speaker 2>they are on the tournament, all that kind of stuff,

0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:38.119
<v Speaker 2>and then have to pick an option and try and

0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:42.040
<v Speaker 2>unlock a golf hole. To me, I think there's real

0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:44.560
<v Speaker 2>artistry and beauty in that, and it's one of the

0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:47.359
<v Speaker 2>things that I really love about this game.

0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:53.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, years ago, when I was first getting to

0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:58.080
<v Speaker 3>know our mutual friend Jeff Ogilvie, he said something to

0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:00.840
<v Speaker 3>me that stuck and I hadn't put this together. He

0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:03.399
<v Speaker 3>once said, he said to me, you know, one of

0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:06.160
<v Speaker 3>the shames of golf is that we don't You don't

0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:10.680
<v Speaker 3>that fans don't regularly get to see all the shots

0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.480
<v Speaker 3>that we can hit, Like all the most of the

0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:20.359
<v Speaker 3>golf courses don't ask questions hard enough where where the

0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:23.960
<v Speaker 3>elite of the game hit all the shots that they can.

0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:27.800
<v Speaker 3>And I think that's one of the enthralling things about Shinnakok.

0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:30.080
<v Speaker 3>And you saw it play out, if you just wanted

0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:35.359
<v Speaker 3>to examine Sunday, you saw some extraordinary shot making. You know,

0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:38.280
<v Speaker 3>we've hit on this the shot by Windham on ten.

0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:41.600
<v Speaker 3>But if you if you drill into the circumstance of

0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:46.800
<v Speaker 3>like you just played a terrible nine, like pretty horrendous nine.

0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.040
<v Speaker 3>There were a lot of bad shots. You know, you

0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.880
<v Speaker 3>think about the way he played five, the way he's

0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:56.080
<v Speaker 3>escaped on six. You know, the t shot on eight,

0:21:56.720 --> 0:21:59.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, the way he scraped around a par on nine,

0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:02.240
<v Speaker 3>and then you go to this tenth hole and it's

0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:05.800
<v Speaker 3>the most demanding shot of all And I mean he

0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:08.320
<v Speaker 3>took on a lot of risk with that shot.

0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, pull it off.

0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that to me that you just took

0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:16.480
<v Speaker 2>the word out of my mouth right there, Because when

0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:20.600
<v Speaker 2>you give these guys options, you know, now it's it

0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:25.120
<v Speaker 2>becomes like a risk assessment situation for them. And he's

0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:29.400
<v Speaker 2>just played this terrible front nine of three over. He's

0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 2>lost all the momentum. The crowd has turned on him

0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:35.199
<v Speaker 2>there against him. They want Sheffler or Burns or somebody

0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:39.520
<v Speaker 2>else to win. And you know, so now he's weighing

0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.679
<v Speaker 2>up what the options are. And when you have like

0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:48.359
<v Speaker 2>this risk assessment decision to make now, doubt can creep in.

0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:52.800
<v Speaker 2>And doubt is the biggest killer in any golfer's game,

0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:56.480
<v Speaker 2>whether you're an eighteen handicapper or the best player in

0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:58.600
<v Speaker 2>the world. When you're standing over a shot and you

0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:03.000
<v Speaker 2>not totally can convinced that you're making the right play,

0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:09.440
<v Speaker 2>that's when funky stuff starts to happen. And I mean

0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:11.879
<v Speaker 2>he just faced it head on there, decided to go

0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:16.080
<v Speaker 2>with the driver and it paid off for him, and

0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 2>that really jump started his his play and him getting

0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 2>his nose in front again and getting things going his way,

0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:27.920
<v Speaker 2>and then he built up that nice cushion to be

0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:30.400
<v Speaker 2>able to play the last two holes a little bit

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:31.400
<v Speaker 2>more defensively again.

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Obviously, one of the big stories about Windham is kind

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:43.480
<v Speaker 3>of how how the week went for Wyndam Clark. Obviously,

0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:46.399
<v Speaker 3>on the right side of the draw. He came in

0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:49.200
<v Speaker 3>playing you know, a number of terms that you called

0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:53.240
<v Speaker 3>fantastic golf, playing some of the best golf of his career,

0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:55.920
<v Speaker 3>on the lead, on the lead in he gets the

0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:58.880
<v Speaker 3>right side of the draw and it leads to this

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:03.840
<v Speaker 3>wired wire victory of the US Open. But you know,

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:07.240
<v Speaker 3>in a I don't know if we'll ever see this again.

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 3>A hostile America, hostile environment for an American playing his

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:17.000
<v Speaker 3>own national championship, where you know, the crowds.

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:20.159
<v Speaker 1>I it was honestly.

0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:22.800
<v Speaker 3>Like moments where I was speechless of you know, the

0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:28.199
<v Speaker 3>situation where he, you know, hits these great shots and

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 3>there's like no applause.

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:32.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, he gets up and down on four.

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:35.439
<v Speaker 3>I stayed on seventeen to follow Burns, and you know,

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:38.639
<v Speaker 3>you you learn when you're following, you know, out you

0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:41.879
<v Speaker 3>listen for things, and I just heard a sigh and

0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:45.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm waiting for the telecast to catch up, and I

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:47.679
<v Speaker 3>hear a sigh, and I'm like, he must have made

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 3>another bogey And so no, he made a fifteen foot or.

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:51.439
<v Speaker 1>For par.

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 3>And I'm just am curious. Have you ever seen anything

0:24:57.160 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 3>like that in your career?

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Ah? Gosh, I mean that's not really not really. I

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 2>mean outside of like Ryder Cups and Presidents Cups where

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:17.120
<v Speaker 2>it's really patriotic and people are actively rooting foreign against

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 2>a particular team. This was an interesting one. You know,

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what my take is on this.

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Andy Uh. You know, it's been such a such an

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 2>interesting ride for him in his professional career, and you know,

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:39.879
<v Speaker 2>obviously the things that jump out are, you know, he

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:44.200
<v Speaker 2>wins his first major at l ACC, and he wins

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:48.680
<v Speaker 2>the US Open there, taking down all the big dogs

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 2>at the top of their game. So you know, that's

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 2>that's an impressive feat right there. And then you know

0:25:56.680 --> 0:26:00.159
<v Speaker 2>the issues that he has at Oakmont and Quayle holl

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:05.199
<v Speaker 2>and the way all of that was handled seemed to

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:09.919
<v Speaker 2>really bother a lot of fans and a lot of people,

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 2>and that's that's rightly so, and that's fair. But it

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:23.480
<v Speaker 2>was just so fascinating to watch how he was received by,

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, a home crowd. It was it was so interesting,

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I think back to other sports. You

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 2>think of, like a game that I love and grew

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 2>up watching in South Africa's rugby. Right It's like it's

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 2>one of the toughest sports out there, and these guys

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 2>just go at each other for you know, more than

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 2>an hour. It's it's eighty minutes, it's two halves. It's

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:54.720
<v Speaker 2>like the toughest sport you'll ever see, and no matter

0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 2>what happens at the end, the respect between the competitors

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 2>and the fans congratulated whoever won is there. You feel

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:06.919
<v Speaker 2>it in the NHL, You feel it in hockey. You know,

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:09.879
<v Speaker 2>guys are basically trying to knock each other out on

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 2>the ice, but the game finishes and they all, you know,

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 2>they go down the line, they shake hands, they congratulate

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:19.719
<v Speaker 2>each other and move on. And I was wondering if

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 2>that would happened yesterday, because you know, we felt it

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:25.199
<v Speaker 2>on Saturday, and then it built a little more on

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 2>social media overnight and then came out Sunday, particularly with

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:32.680
<v Speaker 2>him playing with Scottie, and you could feel it from

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 2>the jump that you know it was going to be

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 2>a tough ride for him, and I think in a

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 2>lot of ways that probably contributed to the bad front

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 2>nine and it's why ten was maybe even up and

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 2>down at nine, and then the birdy at ten was

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:49.639
<v Speaker 2>just so pivotal for him to like feel like he

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:53.199
<v Speaker 2>gets a little something going his way. But I was

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 2>wondering whether, you know, as he's coming down to the

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 2>finish line and he hits it on regulation in two

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 2>at eighteen and he hits a pretty incredible putt just

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 2>like you did at lacc up to tap in, you know,

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 2>any one of us could have made that putt.

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 2>I was wondering how that moment would be received, Like

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 2>would everybody finally then say, Okay, you know, we gave

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:22.880
<v Speaker 2>you out all we didn't weren't necessarily rooting for you today,

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 2>but you've done it anyway, and great job. Congratulations the

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 2>US Open champion. But it didn't feel like it really

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 2>happened to me. That's what I felt watching broadcast. You

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:35.440
<v Speaker 2>were there, tell me about.

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:36.640
<v Speaker 1>It being there on the ground.

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 3>I've never seen anything like it, you know, I think

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 3>the Brighter Cup was it was it that was a

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 3>nasty crowd. Yeah, where it was vulgar, it was it

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 3>was way it was. It was things that you're taught

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 3>as a kid, that you you don't say to other people.

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 3>This one was just like openly. It felt more like

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 3>if I was in a in a you know, if

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 3>you're if you go to opposing stadium and you know,

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 3>it's like a kind of like a good spirited you know,

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 3>we're rooting against this guy is one team, we're rooting

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 3>against them.

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>But that's not really the way I feel like golf

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 1>fandom normally works.

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 3>And if I think about before I got into golf,

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 3>people always used to be like, oh, you're into golf,

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Like who's your favorite player? And be like, well, I

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 3>like like a bunch of guys, like here are the

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 3>people I like, you know, But it wasn't ever like

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 3>you're just kind of still enjoying watching someone that maybe

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 3>not one of your favorite players play well, you like

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 3>appreciate it.

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>This crowd it felt like a what happens.

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 3>It felt like when the Bears went to Lambeau and

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 3>beat the packers, and there's this silence, like deafening silence

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 3>when he hit the putt to tap in range. That

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 3>was such a hard putt, ay as you call it,

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 3>like He's hit two of the best lag putts I've

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 3>ever seen.

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Given the stakes in.

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 3>My life with lacc in this one, I was, you know,

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 3>similarly positioned.

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>But for him to hit this putt that, like the.

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Golf fandom in that area has a fairly high IQ.

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 3>For him to hit that good of a putt in

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 3>that situation, needing to two putt and just leaving himself

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 3>like the most casual mark had he basically he started

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 3>celebrating as soon as he hit the putt. And for

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:50.719
<v Speaker 3>him to be met with zero like basically only his

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 3>twelve people that all poured out on the green up cheering.

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>That was it.

0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:57.719
<v Speaker 2>It was.

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>It was one of the craziest situations I've ever seen.

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 2>It was so interesting. It was so interesting. But the game,

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 2>the game is, the pro game has changed, you know,

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 2>you speak about like the culture we grew up in

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 2>and the etiquette we was taught we were taught growing up.

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just it's it's not our grandfather's sport anymore.

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's changed. And you know what, I'm not

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not here, by the way, saying that it's changed

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 2>for the better or the worse. I'm just saying that

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 2>it's different. And we have the game has exploded. Really,

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 2>we have bunches of new fans that love it, which

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 2>is great. We have gambling, which is certainly something that's new.

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:56.479
<v Speaker 2>We have social media, which adds a lot more noise

0:31:56.760 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 2>and interaction and banter back and forth with people. We

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 2>have players playing for tons more money, and so it's

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 2>just different. It's just different. And yeah, it was, it was.

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 2>It felt a little awkward to me watching it on TV.

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 3>I you know, I completely agree with like the amount

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 3>of discourse and the amount of information about players has

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 3>never been greater. And and then you throw in the

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:40.959
<v Speaker 3>gambling aspect, where people have inherent rooting interests that are

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 3>tied to to like their livelihoods in some cases, and

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 3>you're going to get a completely different fan base, something

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 3>that I've you know, Windom is not a like nobody

0:32:56.200 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 3>in the world is perfect. And Windham I as the

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 3>week kind of went on, and you know, Windham has

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 3>like I don't think, like everybody's built to be in

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 3>the spotlight. And Wyndham has done some things that are stupid,

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 3>and I think he's be probably the first. He admitted

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 3>it so much in his post round and in his

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 3>you know post round after you know, every round, basically like, yeah,

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 3>I've made mistakes and I haven't handled it well, but

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 3>like that's what life is.

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 1>He's thirty two years old, you know, this is not somebody.

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 1>This is somebody that is still.

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 3>Like becoming an adult, you know, like a fully formed person.

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 1>And if you think about, like.

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 3>What where I like have trouble like putting these two

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 3>things together. I get like, if if Wyndham Clark is

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 3>not your speed, that's fine, absolutely, But what I don't

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 3>understand is how there isn't any how there's no nobody

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 3>that could take the side of like, you know what,

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 3>Like this guy is trying to put his life together

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 3>and he's gone through a lot of stuff in yeah

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.319
<v Speaker 3>it's been self inflicted, but like, can we look in

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 3>the mirror and think about how much self inflicted crap

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:22.839
<v Speaker 3>that we've all put ourselves through, because like everybody does this,

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:25.919
<v Speaker 3>you know, his has just happened to do it because

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 3>he's famous, you know, and I'm not excusing anything he's done.

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 3>But like, I think there's a level of, like everybody

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 3>wants more personality and more interesting tour pros.

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:39.640
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 3>There there's like, you know, if you talk about Scotty,

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 3>everybody's always a dial tone. He just doesn't bring anything

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:49.719
<v Speaker 3>to the table. And it's like if you're saying that,

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:53.280
<v Speaker 3>and then you have this guy who's putting on USA

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 3>Hockey jerseys at the Canadian Open talking about opening grape

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 3>after he wins in Tech, Like I don't, like, I

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:06.320
<v Speaker 3>don't get what what everybody wants, because like, not everybody

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:10.319
<v Speaker 3>can be Rory, not everybody can be Scottie, And this

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 3>is a unique character on the PGA tour. And like

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 3>you can disagree with, you know, his political views, you

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 3>can disagree with what he did with the Oakmont locker,

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 3>but I guess like I was mystified that nobody was

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:25.879
<v Speaker 3>supporting him, Like.

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 2>Nobody, Yeah, yeah, I felt the same way. You know,

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you that you know, we've all done

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 2>stuff in our lives that we regret. Whether you doesn't

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 2>matter what industry you're in. Chucks, I threw clubs, broke

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 2>clubs at times. Am I proud of it? Absolutely? Not?

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Would I do. I wish I could have that moment

0:35:55.880 --> 0:36:03.239
<v Speaker 2>on again and not do that. Absolutely was I completely

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 2>disgusted in myself the moment I did it, for sure.

0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 2>But you know, you've just got to be able to,

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe at times, give people some grace, allow

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 2>allow for them to have some growth and understand those

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 2>things that they did wrong and learn from that and

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 2>do better the next time. And you know, it appears

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 2>to me in all my interactions with him that he

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 2>is doing that and that he has done that, and

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:46.840
<v Speaker 2>he must feel so much more at peace with himself,

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 2>because let me tell you something, if you're not at

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:51.839
<v Speaker 2>peace with yourself, golf is not a sport that you're

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 2>going to excel in. You know, you look at the

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:57.759
<v Speaker 2>way that he started to play in the last couple

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 2>of months. I mean, he must he must be feeling

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:05.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot better about the adjustments and the growth that

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 2>he's had and adjustments that he's made. And so, you know,

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to be a fan, absolutely not, but

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 2>you do have to tip your cap to the fact

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 2>that this guy's now a two time US Open champion.

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 2>He's won twice in his last handful of starts, and

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, this time he went wired a wire, which

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:35.840
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0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:40.280
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0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:44.000
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0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:47.040
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0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:52.960
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0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:56.799
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0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.160
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0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:03.759
<v Speaker 2>that heat and really under that much scrutiny for a

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 2>full week and hold the lead, is it's impressive to

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 2>get it done.

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:18.760
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<v Speaker 3>and let's get back to Trevor Immulman. The other thing

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 3>about about going wire to wire, obviously, is the golf course.

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 3>You know, as you said, the late I mean the

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<v Speaker 3>attention of a US Open, the late tea times with Windham,

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 3>he's thirty two, he's seemingly he's seemingly if you follow

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:01.319
<v Speaker 3>his career to this late bloomer where you know he

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:05.360
<v Speaker 3>was expected to be this great collegiate player. He really

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:07.799
<v Speaker 3>became a great collegiate player in his in.

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:08.479
<v Speaker 1>His last year.

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 3>You know, all the talk of LA was, oh, he's

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:16.360
<v Speaker 3>a late bloomer because he was playing opposite field events

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:21.080
<v Speaker 3>the year he won LA, and similarly this year he

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 3>had lost his spot in signature events, which is a

0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 3>crazy thought of you were in the US Open, you

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 3>won the US Open two years ago, and now you're

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, you're back to playing, you know, the the

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 3>bottom tier of the PGA tour kind of schedule where

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 3>he lost control, the ability to control his schedule before

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 3>his US Open you know, his his major exemptions were up,

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:50.360
<v Speaker 3>and I think with Wyndham, I'm curious what what you

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 3>think going forward. You know, he's got five wins, he's

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:57.799
<v Speaker 3>got two major championships, and he's thirty two. I mean,

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:01.360
<v Speaker 3>he's right in the middle of his prime. You know what,

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:03.320
<v Speaker 3>what are your expectations to move forward?

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, here's what I would say. We know for sure

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 2>now he's got the toughness to be in the cauldron

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 2>and still be able to find a way to win.

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:20.279
<v Speaker 2>He proved that to us this week. You know, the

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 2>first one at LACC. You're trying to win your first major.

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Nobody knows. He doesn't even know how he's going to react,

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 2>especially against that type of competition coming down the stretch,

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:32.239
<v Speaker 2>and he found a way to win. And so that

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:35.840
<v Speaker 2>sort of shows you, now, Okay, this guy's got a

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:38.799
<v Speaker 2>pretty high ceiling. He could go ahead and compete with

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:42.840
<v Speaker 2>the best in the biggest championships. This one he had,

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:49.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, everybody and their mothers and aunties rooting against him,

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 2>and he still found a way to win. So we

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:57.400
<v Speaker 2>know he's got that mental toughness to be able to

0:42:57.440 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 2>hang in there. He's got tons of power. I mean,

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 2>people talk a lot about the big fade he does.

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:09.879
<v Speaker 2>What I've noticed, the more pressure he gets under, the

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 2>more he starts to lean more and more on that

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 2>fade because he just knows that he can hit that

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 2>shot pretty much with certainty. And so then the question becomes, Okay,

0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 2>well can he start it far enough to the left

0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 2>to keep it on the whole that he's playned but

0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 2>tons of power? Unbelievable short gang chipping, pitching bunker play with,

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, not the most stylish technique. I mean, it

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 2>looks pretty awkward at times, but the way the contact

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 2>is and the strike is, and the way the ball

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 2>flies and the way it reacts when it hits the

0:43:57.560 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 2>green is great. Is really, really really great. And then

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 2>now he's found this weapon over the last couple of

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:08.919
<v Speaker 2>months with this new putter, and he's starting to look

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 2>more and more comfortable there. I think that was the

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:14.440
<v Speaker 2>thing that was rarely getting under his skin over the

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:16.879
<v Speaker 2>last couple of years, was just was not putting well

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 2>at all when you look at the numbers, never ever

0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 2>getting any momentum there. So now he seems to have

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 2>found something that he really likes. And you add that

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 2>to the power, you add that to the good touch.

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:34.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's such an interesting question. There's so much

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:37.799
<v Speaker 2>recency biased whenever we do these pods or whenever you

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 2>see a brilliant performance like this, you know, people ask

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 2>how many more majors? You know, it's just not that

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:52.080
<v Speaker 2>easy to win majors. I would say number one. But

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:57.239
<v Speaker 2>he absolutely, you know, he's got the guts, man, And

0:44:57.440 --> 0:45:00.919
<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't just have to be good teeter

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 2>green and chipping and putting to win major championships, but

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:06.800
<v Speaker 2>you've got to have something pretty special deep inside to

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 2>be able to handle moments like that, just because of

0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the magnitude of it, whether it be external pressure or

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 2>internal pressure, the fact that you grew up always wanting

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:23.920
<v Speaker 2>to win one of these, or win multiple majors, or

0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 2>have the opportunity and now it's right there on your

0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:29.279
<v Speaker 2>doorstep and you can see the finish line. I mean,

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:33.359
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot that comes with that. And you know,

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Speaker 2>he's proven twice now that he can go ahead and

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 2>run through the tape. And to me, that is the

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 2>thing that I lean on the most, thinking that he's

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:51.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna still be around for a while contending in these tournaments.

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's it.

0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:55.879
<v Speaker 3>I feel like he's you know, if you look through

0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:59.320
<v Speaker 3>his major record, he hasn't been in the mix very often.

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 3>But you know, you go to LA and nobody expected

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 3>him to win there, and all he did was hang

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:09.840
<v Speaker 3>in there, make a get up and down when he

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:12.240
<v Speaker 3>needed to get up and down. And you know, these weeks,

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 3>these major weeks, you know, basically I go to the

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:16.600
<v Speaker 3>golf course, I'm there all day, and then when I

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 3>get home, we podcast on shotguns start, and then that

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 3>we talk about golf for two more hours.

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 2>That sounds good.

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 3>The thing that was resounding about Windham is like he's

0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:33.400
<v Speaker 3>already been in this kind of exact position and he

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 3>didn't spit the bit. And I feel like he's one

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 3>of those players that when he gets near it and

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:41.840
<v Speaker 3>like you saw this at at Memorial, Like he played

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:43.640
<v Speaker 3>really really good at Memorial and.

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Just didn't get it done like I thought he.

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:48.520
<v Speaker 3>That was one of those tournaments where like a bounce here,

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:51.320
<v Speaker 3>a bounced there, and Wyndham Clark wins Memorial and he

0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 3>would have come in here off of two wins. And

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:57.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, I think he's just one of those guys

0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:00.120
<v Speaker 3>that when he's in the mix, he's like a dog

0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 3>with a bone like he's not giving it up.

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's got that toughness, There's no doubt about it.

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:08.800
<v Speaker 2>You know. Could I see him contending at the PGA

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Championship Absolutely? Could I see him contending at the Open. Absolutely.

0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:18.920
<v Speaker 2>You've got space to start it wherever you want to

0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:21.440
<v Speaker 2>start it, as long as you can handle the cross wins.

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 2>He's very very good at flying the ball down, like

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:32.240
<v Speaker 2>extremely good at that. You know, my aw question mark

0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:36.759
<v Speaker 2>from a major championship standpoint would be in order for

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:40.200
<v Speaker 2>him to contend at the Masters, he probably would need

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:44.520
<v Speaker 2>to find at the very least a fairway wood shot

0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:47.120
<v Speaker 2>that he can sling from right to left. Yeah, I

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 2>mean you know that there's going to be there's going

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:53.720
<v Speaker 2>to be you know, two or three, maybe four shots

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:56.719
<v Speaker 2>off the tee at Augusta National where you need to

0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:58.319
<v Speaker 2>move it from right to left. I mean ten and

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 2>thirteen immediately jumped in your mind. You just you can't

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:04.640
<v Speaker 2>be hitting a big slice there and get away with

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:08.439
<v Speaker 2>it all week long. So if he finds a way

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:10.880
<v Speaker 2>to do that with a fairway word, you know, he

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:13.960
<v Speaker 2>doesn't necessarily need to do it with a driver, but

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 2>if he can get some sort of three word that

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:20.319
<v Speaker 2>he can tip from right to left, then you know

0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:23.000
<v Speaker 2>that one becomes available to him too because of how

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:23.840
<v Speaker 2>he chips and potts.

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it should be.

0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think it'll be something fun to watch

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:33.799
<v Speaker 3>see where he goes outside of Windham.

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Who impressed you the most this weekend?

0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:43.880
<v Speaker 2>And there's a couple. I thought Sam Burns was pretty impressive.

0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:49.439
<v Speaker 2>You know, Sam Burns has been a been a very

0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:54.319
<v Speaker 2>good player for a long time. Probably hasn't won as

0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 2>much as what he should with the talent that he

0:48:56.680 --> 0:49:01.440
<v Speaker 2>has and the ability that he has. But he really

0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:04.239
<v Speaker 2>played some solid golf man, particularly on Sunday. I thought

0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 2>some of those shots that he hit down the stretch.

0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:11.640
<v Speaker 2>The shot into seventeen was high, high level.

0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:15.360
<v Speaker 3>That's as good of a shot as I've seen. I

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:18.319
<v Speaker 3>lot a golf shot that was right behind him there,

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:23.640
<v Speaker 3>and I mean that wind that pin back left on

0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 3>a green, that.

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Is just the way it's angled. You know, if you're

0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:29.560
<v Speaker 1>going to.

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:31.000
<v Speaker 3>Try and hit it at that left pin, you have

0:49:31.080 --> 0:49:34.799
<v Speaker 3>to be committed to it wind off the left. And

0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:37.360
<v Speaker 3>I think if somebody was going to critique Sam Burns

0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:40.960
<v Speaker 3>as he's like Windham, he really likes to move that

0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:46.000
<v Speaker 3>ball left or right, and man, that shot was beautiful.

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:49.000
<v Speaker 3>He just held that held a draw up there perfectly.

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 3>The thing didn't leave the flag from the second it

0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 3>came off his face.

0:49:52.880 --> 0:49:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was brilliant. You look at the ball striking.

0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 2>He hit ten or fourteen fairwes, thirteen of eighteen greens

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 2>around Shinnecock the final round of the US Open is

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:06.560
<v Speaker 2>pretty stellar. Uh So, I really do feel that even

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:09.080
<v Speaker 2>though he didn't win, he took a huge step forward

0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:12.319
<v Speaker 2>for him that he's going to be able to lean

0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:16.440
<v Speaker 2>on in the future. Uh So, I give him. I

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:18.560
<v Speaker 2>give him an A plus. I thought it was cool

0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 2>to see Tom kimback in the picture. He's been struggling

0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:24.000
<v Speaker 2>for a while. I actually ran into him in the

0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:27.160
<v Speaker 2>airport in Canada last Sunday night. He was heading to

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:32.520
<v Speaker 2>UH Shinnecock and had a nice week in UH in

0:50:32.560 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Canada and UH and then backed it up and really

0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:40.239
<v Speaker 2>even you know, with five or six holes to play,

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:42.000
<v Speaker 2>he still had a shot on Sunday.

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Wait, real chance? I think, like you know, you look down.

0:50:49.920 --> 0:50:52.279
<v Speaker 3>One of the brilliant things about Shittacok too, is like

0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 3>some major championship venues. You know, Tom Kim has to

0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:59.680
<v Speaker 3>play just perfect golf in order to compete. And this

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:01.879
<v Speaker 3>is a of course we've talked about it a little

0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:06.040
<v Speaker 3>bit with the optionality where a shorter hitter has options

0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:08.759
<v Speaker 3>like these are places where you know, you look at

0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:11.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, Tom Kim played well, Zach Blair finished in

0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:15.560
<v Speaker 3>the top thirty, you know, the shortest player on PG

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 3>on the PGA Tour. But the reality is like they're

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:21.640
<v Speaker 3>hitting the ball in a lot of similar places as

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:24.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, Rory's hitting the ball because of just the

0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:27.439
<v Speaker 3>nature of of of shinnakok. And you know the thing

0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:30.600
<v Speaker 3>that always impresses me and you you had you you

0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 3>captained him in a in a President's Cup, Tom Kim,

0:51:35.640 --> 0:51:38.160
<v Speaker 3>When you see this, I mean I can't believe I

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:40.920
<v Speaker 3>say this. You see this at TGL when the chips

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:44.080
<v Speaker 3>are down and the and he has a putt, Yeah,

0:51:44.160 --> 0:51:47.200
<v Speaker 3>you kind of feel like, as as someone who watches

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:50.320
<v Speaker 3>him a lot, I feel like it's going down.

0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:55.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. He loves the spotlight. He just absolutely loves it.

0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:59.520
<v Speaker 2>He thrives on it. He enjoys every single sickond of it.

0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:02.800
<v Speaker 2>He enjoyed the opportunity to be able to do something

0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:07.839
<v Speaker 2>great and he just hasn't been able to quite put

0:52:07.920 --> 0:52:10.440
<v Speaker 2>himself in that position for a little while now, and

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:13.680
<v Speaker 2>so his rankings are plummeted. He's not playing in the

0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:17.560
<v Speaker 2>tournaments that he rarely wants to be playing in, and

0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 2>this week is going to be massive for him to

0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:23.320
<v Speaker 2>be able to change that and get into a position

0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:25.560
<v Speaker 2>now we can compete week in and week out with

0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:28.440
<v Speaker 2>some of the better players and have more of a

0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:30.400
<v Speaker 2>shot at it. So this can be a huge confidence

0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:33.560
<v Speaker 2>boost for him. I was really happy for him, impressed

0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:38.920
<v Speaker 2>with him, happy for our international team come September. A

0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:46.040
<v Speaker 2>couple of the others, Keith Mitchell, Nieman, Keith Mitchell really cool,

0:52:46.200 --> 0:52:49.480
<v Speaker 2>love the guy. He's one of those guys that's out

0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:52.400
<v Speaker 2>there weekend and week out, grinding it out, and so

0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:54.920
<v Speaker 2>for him to give himself a shot and be in

0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:58.480
<v Speaker 2>the hunt would have been a really special feeling for him.

0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:01.719
<v Speaker 2>I thought he acquitted himself really well. I'm full seventies

0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:05.720
<v Speaker 2>in a row. That's pretty cool. And then Nieman obviously

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:08.880
<v Speaker 2>is a big story because of the the eleven and

0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:13.319
<v Speaker 2>fighting his way back into top ten, which is remarkable.

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:16.440
<v Speaker 3>Actually, yeah, I think outside of the eleven he played,

0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:20.720
<v Speaker 3>he was six hundred part I mean, just a crazy

0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:25.320
<v Speaker 3>turbment obviously got the the first USGA doled out misconduct

0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:29.520
<v Speaker 3>penalty in that eleven two balls out of bound, a

0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:35.160
<v Speaker 3>club throw, which which led to, you know, two stroke penalty. Remarkable,

0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:38.239
<v Speaker 3>remarkable golf, and it's impossible. It's so easy to you know,

0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:43.439
<v Speaker 3>Like I loved his response to you know, somebody asked him,

0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:46.880
<v Speaker 3>you know what, you know, if you hadn't made this eleven,

0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:49.160
<v Speaker 3>do you think about winning the tournament? And he said,

0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:52.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, if my grandmother had wheels and an engine,

0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:52.919
<v Speaker 3>she'd be a car.

0:53:53.239 --> 0:54:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a great comeback, I thought he after the fact,

0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:07.440
<v Speaker 2>once the penalty came down, and then he played the

0:54:08.280 --> 0:54:14.600
<v Speaker 2>second round, played brilliantly, made the cut, which is just

0:54:14.680 --> 0:54:17.759
<v Speaker 2>incredible when you add an eleven to the scorecard to

0:54:17.800 --> 0:54:20.319
<v Speaker 2>still go ahead and keep it together. I thought he

0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:24.880
<v Speaker 2>handled it extremely well in the media and showed great maturity. So,

0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:30.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's impressive stuff. We've spoken many times about

0:54:30.840 --> 0:54:34.759
<v Speaker 2>expecting more from him in major championships, and so now

0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:37.520
<v Speaker 2>he's had a T seven with an eleven on the card.

0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:41.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, the last few majors he started

0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:44.239
<v Speaker 2>to play a little bitter. I'm wanting to say he's

0:54:44.239 --> 0:54:46.319
<v Speaker 2>had another top ten. There's someway I needed and play

0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:49.799
<v Speaker 2>the Masters this year. But at a very young age, Noll,

0:54:49.840 --> 0:54:52.160
<v Speaker 2>he seems to be starting to figure out the formula

0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 2>at the biggest events with.

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Them played with Scotty. Obviously, Scotty his birthday in k

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 3>he didn't hear, and he was going for the career

0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:09.520
<v Speaker 3>Grand Slam, you know, and turned thirty, going for the

0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:12.440
<v Speaker 3>career Grand Slam. He played his way into that final

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:17.239
<v Speaker 3>group and then you know, I think he just it

0:55:17.280 --> 0:55:19.680
<v Speaker 3>was a week I felt where he was just a

0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:22.399
<v Speaker 3>little often in a lot of aspects of the game.

0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:25.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, from your eye, what did you see from

0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:28.919
<v Speaker 3>Scotty's performance? And I think you know, you know, part

0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:31.600
<v Speaker 3>of the Windom thing was him going up against Scotty

0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:34.520
<v Speaker 3>in that final group, with all the things with Scotty,

0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:37.160
<v Speaker 3>Scotty going for him, with his birthday, you know, the

0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:39.640
<v Speaker 3>career first attempt at the career Grand Slam.

0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:43.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, once again, you know, it's another reason to tip

0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:45.359
<v Speaker 2>your cap to wind him. I mean, he took down

0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:47.959
<v Speaker 2>Rory at l a CC and now he's taken down

0:55:48.160 --> 0:55:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Scotty at Chinnekok Hills. That's something that he will remember very,

0:55:54.840 --> 0:55:58.920
<v Speaker 2>very fondly as he gets older and maybe even starts

0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:01.680
<v Speaker 2>to slow down playing in however many years that's going

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:05.319
<v Speaker 2>to be. That's something that he'll really love to look

0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:14.000
<v Speaker 2>back on. Regarding Scheffler, He's just right there. He's just

0:56:14.120 --> 0:56:16.800
<v Speaker 2>right there, isn't he. It feels like it's so close,

0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:22.200
<v Speaker 2>it's so close to being great. You have to acknowledge

0:56:23.600 --> 0:56:28.919
<v Speaker 2>that he spoiled. He spoiled us. The guy spoiled us

0:56:29.000 --> 0:56:35.120
<v Speaker 2>for three or four years with just some of the

0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:40.319
<v Speaker 2>best golf we've seen, winning at a clip that is,

0:56:41.840 --> 0:56:44.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, up there with the greats to have ever lived.

0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:47.719
<v Speaker 2>You think about Tiger and Jack and some of these

0:56:47.760 --> 0:56:53.560
<v Speaker 2>great seasons that people have had. Byron Nelson when he

0:56:53.640 --> 0:56:55.719
<v Speaker 2>won all those tournaments, what did he went eighteen in

0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:58.480
<v Speaker 2>a season, eleven in a row, DJ singh one nine

0:56:58.520 --> 0:57:01.120
<v Speaker 2>times in a season. You know, the seasons that Scotty

0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:05.560
<v Speaker 2>was having were right up there in that conversation, at

0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:09.759
<v Speaker 2>least in the same bucket. And you know, this year

0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:12.719
<v Speaker 2>he's only had the one win and been so extremely

0:57:12.760 --> 0:57:15.200
<v Speaker 2>close so many times, and this just felt like another

0:57:15.280 --> 0:57:20.200
<v Speaker 2>one of those where he was rarely at a high

0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:23.040
<v Speaker 2>level but just wasn't quite where he needed to be

0:57:23.200 --> 0:57:26.440
<v Speaker 2>And to me, the turning point was on Saturday, at

0:57:26.480 --> 0:57:31.360
<v Speaker 2>the end of Saturday, when he had everything going and

0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:34.080
<v Speaker 2>then he bogied seventeen and then missed the short put

0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:38.240
<v Speaker 2>on eighteen, And I feel like, if he pods seventeen,

0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:43.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, think about it, He's just birdied fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,

0:57:44.280 --> 0:57:47.800
<v Speaker 2>and now like the crowd is revving and everybody's getting

0:57:47.840 --> 0:57:51.720
<v Speaker 2>behind him, and the Grand Slam and all the history

0:57:51.760 --> 0:57:55.960
<v Speaker 2>behind that. Everything was going his way, and then all

0:57:56.040 --> 0:57:59.080
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden he boges seventeen and then misses the

0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:03.040
<v Speaker 2>putt at eighteen, which you know, obviously, those pots are

0:58:03.080 --> 0:58:06.120
<v Speaker 2>so difficult, Those holes are so difficult. The pots are

0:58:06.160 --> 0:58:08.640
<v Speaker 2>so difficult when you're playing late in the day on Poeanna,

0:58:09.120 --> 0:58:11.680
<v Speaker 2>the one on eighteen in particularly, he's coming straight down

0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 2>the hill. I mean, you're breathing on this pot. It's

0:58:13.800 --> 0:58:16.520
<v Speaker 2>just got to be perfection with a little bit of

0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:21.160
<v Speaker 2>luck involved as well. And you just kind of wanted

0:58:21.160 --> 0:58:23.840
<v Speaker 2>to yourself if he had parted seventeen and birdied eighteen

0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:28.800
<v Speaker 2>and been just that hair closer, you know, how would

0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:30.920
<v Speaker 2>it have looked then? How would it have felt for

0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Wyndham then with him with him just a bit more

0:58:34.880 --> 0:58:39.520
<v Speaker 2>within breathing distance to start the final round.

0:58:38.960 --> 0:58:44.680
<v Speaker 3>It's such marginal things, but that Saturday, while it started

0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:49.560
<v Speaker 3>going the three birdies in a row, it felt so

0:58:49.960 --> 0:58:55.400
<v Speaker 3>eerily similar to Quail Hollow On Saturday at Quail Hollow

0:58:55.560 --> 0:58:59.120
<v Speaker 3>last year, where he played I think the last five

0:58:59.360 --> 0:59:03.160
<v Speaker 3>five under that opened up this three shot lead. It

0:59:03.200 --> 0:59:07.520
<v Speaker 3>was a different circumstance. But here he comes roaring back

0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:13.120
<v Speaker 3>and like this is we talked. I think the thing

0:59:13.200 --> 0:59:16.200
<v Speaker 3>and why we're all so deeply afflicted with the golf

0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:20.240
<v Speaker 3>bug and the disease that it is is just the

0:59:20.280 --> 0:59:23.400
<v Speaker 3>margins of the game are so narrow, no matter what

0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:27.960
<v Speaker 3>level you're playing at. Oh and for Scotty it felt

0:59:28.000 --> 0:59:32.680
<v Speaker 3>like this, like this roar almost where he's coming, you know,

0:59:32.760 --> 0:59:36.680
<v Speaker 3>he's riding. And then seventeen it was it was a

0:59:36.760 --> 0:59:39.680
<v Speaker 3>manageable up and down, he doesn't convert it. In eighteen

0:59:39.760 --> 0:59:44.120
<v Speaker 3>he hits that tremendous drive and a spectacular wedge and

0:59:44.160 --> 0:59:47.760
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't convert it, and it's like that the wind

0:59:47.960 --> 0:59:50.000
<v Speaker 3>just kind of came out of his sails. And then

0:59:50.040 --> 0:59:52.000
<v Speaker 3>then he's in this position where he has to chase

0:59:52.040 --> 0:59:52.600
<v Speaker 3>a lot more.

0:59:52.920 --> 0:59:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah to me, that was the difference if he

0:59:55.720 --> 0:59:58.960
<v Speaker 2>had just got a little closer. And then you add

0:59:59.000 --> 1:00:03.360
<v Speaker 2>to that the first hole on Sunday. You know, so

1:00:03.920 --> 1:00:08.720
<v Speaker 2>when you combine those bogie at seventeen, the miss birdie

1:00:08.720 --> 1:00:13.240
<v Speaker 2>at eighteen, and then he bogie's the first hole on Sunday, gosh,

1:00:13.280 --> 1:00:15.760
<v Speaker 2>that that kind of was the tournament right there. For him.

1:00:15.800 --> 1:00:21.400
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, you know it, it maybe unfair to

1:00:22.280 --> 1:00:26.280
<v Speaker 2>over seventy two hole span to like drill down into that,

1:00:27.360 --> 1:00:30.000
<v Speaker 2>but for me, you know, I can look past everything

1:00:30.040 --> 1:00:34.720
<v Speaker 2>else but those three holes to finish Saturday and to

1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:38.520
<v Speaker 2>start Sunday, that was tough. It was tough because he

1:00:38.600 --> 1:00:43.760
<v Speaker 2>just didn't He kind of had wind them in his

1:00:43.920 --> 1:00:47.160
<v Speaker 2>sights and on the ropes, and then he just let

1:00:47.280 --> 1:00:49.560
<v Speaker 2>him get away. You know. It's kind of like when

1:00:49.600 --> 1:00:52.800
<v Speaker 2>you're out fishing and you hook that nice fish, but

1:00:52.880 --> 1:00:54.600
<v Speaker 2>you just don't set the hook properly and all of

1:00:54.600 --> 1:00:57.160
<v Speaker 2>a sudden it's gone. And that, to me is kind

1:00:57.160 --> 1:00:58.080
<v Speaker 2>of what it felt like.

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<v Speaker 1>The first all.

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<v Speaker 3>I was shocked at that miss from him, because you

1:01:04.520 --> 1:01:07.480
<v Speaker 3>just don't see him usually miss those types of shots

1:01:07.520 --> 1:01:10.640
<v Speaker 3>where you know he's in the fairway, but he's way

1:01:10.680 --> 1:01:13.640
<v Speaker 3>back and that pin was just, you know, from where

1:01:13.640 --> 1:01:14.040
<v Speaker 3>he was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, there's no way he's going to hit

1:01:16.160 --> 1:01:19.479
<v Speaker 3>this within you know, fifteen eighteen feet, and it felt

1:01:19.520 --> 1:01:22.320
<v Speaker 3>like he took it on like it was like it

1:01:22.360 --> 1:01:25.480
<v Speaker 3>felt like he was trying to make like an emphatic

1:01:25.560 --> 1:01:28.840
<v Speaker 3>statement like here I am, yeah, I'm going to be

1:01:28.880 --> 1:01:30.840
<v Speaker 3>coming for you, and it, you know, it goes over

1:01:31.200 --> 1:01:32.360
<v Speaker 3>and it leaves to that bogey.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you look at all these close calls?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think there's something technically or mentally that that

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<v Speaker 3>is just that's different about Scotty this year than the

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<v Speaker 3>last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's nitpicking, Andy, you know, it really is

1:01:49.200 --> 1:01:52.960
<v Speaker 2>nitpicking when you look at I know, he hasn't won

1:01:53.000 --> 1:01:55.640
<v Speaker 2>as many times as what we used to, but he

1:01:55.760 --> 1:01:59.320
<v Speaker 2>still had a ton of opportunities and things haven't just

1:01:59.400 --> 1:02:04.320
<v Speaker 2>quite full in his way. You know, it's it's absolutely netpicking.

1:02:04.360 --> 1:02:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Does he look like he's as comfortable with his long game?

1:02:07.400 --> 1:02:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Probably not. You know, we saw footage of earlier in

1:02:11.560 --> 1:02:14.360
<v Speaker 2>the week here even at Chinnecock, where he's on the

1:02:14.440 --> 1:02:17.520
<v Speaker 2>range with his coach and they're having a back and

1:02:17.560 --> 1:02:20.520
<v Speaker 2>forth and they're discussing what looked to be something in

1:02:20.600 --> 1:02:23.640
<v Speaker 2>his grip, which, as we all know, he spends the

1:02:23.680 --> 1:02:26.680
<v Speaker 2>majority of his time working on just placing his hands

1:02:27.160 --> 1:02:29.800
<v Speaker 2>exactly the way he wants on the club, which I

1:02:29.960 --> 1:02:35.520
<v Speaker 2>just absolutely love it. I've never seen a great player

1:02:35.600 --> 1:02:38.800
<v Speaker 2>spend that much time on their grip. But they were

1:02:38.840 --> 1:02:43.600
<v Speaker 2>going back and forth on that, and so there seems

1:02:43.600 --> 1:02:48.800
<v Speaker 2>to be something that he's just not quite happy with

1:02:49.800 --> 1:02:53.360
<v Speaker 2>or that he feels is not allowing to be him

1:02:53.360 --> 1:02:58.440
<v Speaker 2>to be as sharp as what he normally is. But

1:02:58.560 --> 1:03:01.240
<v Speaker 2>his level is so high. He's still better than the

1:03:01.280 --> 1:03:03.960
<v Speaker 2>majority of the others out there. And so that's that's

1:03:04.000 --> 1:03:07.680
<v Speaker 2>why I say it's it's nitpicking, and I just feel

1:03:07.720 --> 1:03:13.000
<v Speaker 2>like it's around the corner with him, you know, it's just, uh,

1:03:13.440 --> 1:03:16.400
<v Speaker 2>it's something small that he can tweak and and all

1:03:16.440 --> 1:03:18.240
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden he could win four or five times

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<v Speaker 2>in a row.

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<v Speaker 3>A question I I you, you've probably forgotten more about

1:03:24.000 --> 1:03:28.840
<v Speaker 3>the golf swing than I'll ever know. As you age,

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<v Speaker 3>your body just naturally changes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering, have you.

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<v Speaker 3>Could how does that change with your golf swing, which

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<v Speaker 3>is obviously like just a body movement when you boil

1:03:47.160 --> 1:03:49.280
<v Speaker 3>it down, it's just the way your body moves, and

1:03:49.840 --> 1:03:54.440
<v Speaker 3>you're inevitably as you get older, your body composition changes,

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<v Speaker 3>your flexibility changes.

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<v Speaker 1>How how have you seen an of that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Could that be just you know, I saw Brandal doing

1:04:04.040 --> 1:04:07.360
<v Speaker 3>something where's he's steeper than he used to be? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>could it be just simply Hey, like I work on setup,

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<v Speaker 3>I work like I think one of the things I've

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<v Speaker 3>always admired so much with Scott is the diligence what

1:04:17.800 --> 1:04:20.640
<v Speaker 3>you're saying, the diligence to just setting up, because that's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the sneaky hardest things about golf. If you're

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<v Speaker 3>setting up the same but just simply like fractionally, your

1:04:28.000 --> 1:04:31.600
<v Speaker 3>body doesn't move the same way, that could throw off

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<v Speaker 3>everything right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely absolutely? And you know, do I agree with

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<v Speaker 2>Brandal that he is slightly steeper? Yeah? Probably? To me,

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<v Speaker 2>it shows up more when he's trying to turn one

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<v Speaker 2>from right to left. You know, in the past, the

1:04:51.240 --> 1:04:54.280
<v Speaker 2>swing would always look a little funky when he would

1:04:54.280 --> 1:04:56.480
<v Speaker 2>try and hit the drawer because his finish was so

1:04:56.560 --> 1:04:59.360
<v Speaker 2>different as he was trying to square the face through impact.

1:04:59.680 --> 1:05:03.440
<v Speaker 2>But he would do it. This year, it seems to

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<v Speaker 2>me like the drawshots that he's trying to hit, he

1:05:06.400 --> 1:05:08.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of gets a little stuck late in the downswing

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<v Speaker 2>and he leaves it out to the right more often.

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<v Speaker 2>But to answer your question, yeah, it could absolutely be

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<v Speaker 2>the body. And this is one of the funny things

1:05:21.080 --> 1:05:23.840
<v Speaker 2>about our sport, you know, that's or shall I say,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that makes our sport different to

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<v Speaker 2>the others. I mean, there is no injury report, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we we don't know what's going on with his body.

1:05:35.080 --> 1:05:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Scotty holds his cards very close to his chest. The

1:05:40.160 --> 1:05:44.280
<v Speaker 2>rules don't make him have to disclose anything that he

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<v Speaker 2>may or may not be going through body wise, and

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<v Speaker 2>so who knows. Who knows what he could be feeling

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<v Speaker 2>or something that could be niggling that has just not

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<v Speaker 2>allowed him to drop that club into the spot that

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<v Speaker 2>he played his apps Loot Best Gulf from. We just

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. We also don't know that, you know, it

1:06:05.680 --> 1:06:10.520
<v Speaker 2>could have been something that happened months ago and he

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<v Speaker 2>got into a bad habit and he's just struggled to

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<v Speaker 2>work his way through that back habit, bad habit to

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<v Speaker 2>drop back into his sweet spot. So really, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>all of this is it's just a guess of us

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure it all out do I know that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this guy is just so ridiculously good, and

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<v Speaker 2>even when we talk here about him being slightly off,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that that level when he's slightly off is

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<v Speaker 2>still so ridiculously high that any week given week, there's

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<v Speaker 2>there's probably only you know, less than a handful of

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<v Speaker 2>guys that compete him. And that's pretty remarkable.

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<v Speaker 3>Extraordin where you know, the talk, you know, you just

1:07:03.080 --> 1:07:06.400
<v Speaker 3>think about where he's gotten to that the talk you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I I you know, you hate Tiger comparisons, and he's

1:07:11.680 --> 1:07:15.720
<v Speaker 3>a different player than Tiger. He's thirty years old. He

1:07:16.000 --> 1:07:18.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, he wasn't winning majors at at twenty one,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, But that being said, they're the level of consistency,

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<v Speaker 3>the bar that he has set. I don't think any

1:07:26.560 --> 1:07:31.160
<v Speaker 3>player has been discussed like this where what's wrong with

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<v Speaker 3>Scotty Scheffler is you know, you know, I think he's

1:07:35.480 --> 1:07:39.320
<v Speaker 3>gone T two, T fourteen and this week he was

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<v Speaker 3>T five, T four, T four, So that's that's the run,

1:07:44.760 --> 1:07:48.320
<v Speaker 3>is what's wrong with Scotty Scheffler. When most players would

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<v Speaker 3>look at that and say, that's about the best major

1:07:51.440 --> 1:07:54.520
<v Speaker 3>best year I've had of my career. And that even great,

1:07:54.680 --> 1:07:55.840
<v Speaker 3>great players would say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, I mean he's he's remarkable, man, he really is.

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<v Speaker 2>He's great. We're spoiled. We're spoiled by him.

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<v Speaker 3>As you kind of examine the whole tournament, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and who we've discussed in and uh, were there was

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<v Speaker 3>anybody did anybody positively surprise you? And was there any

1:08:19.080 --> 1:08:22.160
<v Speaker 3>player you know that we haven't discussed that disappointed you

1:08:23.080 --> 1:08:24.040
<v Speaker 3>with their performance?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, how about i'll run through a few here. I'm

1:08:30.040 --> 1:08:32.559
<v Speaker 2>just looking at the leaderboard. You know. I'm really happy

1:08:32.560 --> 1:08:36.559
<v Speaker 2>for Gary Woodland T. Seven. That's great. I'm a huge

1:08:36.600 --> 1:08:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Gary Woodland fan a year one of the coolest guys

1:08:40.439 --> 1:08:46.439
<v Speaker 2>you will ever meet in your life. Uh. Justin Rose

1:08:46.479 --> 1:08:49.200
<v Speaker 2>T eleven, he missed the cut in Canada. It just

1:08:49.240 --> 1:08:53.440
<v Speaker 2>doesn't seem to matter how he plays in regular tournaments.

1:08:53.640 --> 1:08:57.519
<v Speaker 2>When a major week comes along, he finds a way

1:08:57.680 --> 1:09:01.760
<v Speaker 2>to have a solid week at this age. Got to

1:09:01.760 --> 1:09:04.400
<v Speaker 2>give that a shout out. Well done there to Rosie.

1:09:04.760 --> 1:09:08.240
<v Speaker 2>I think Aaron Raie finishing Tier eleven backing up the

1:09:08.600 --> 1:09:14.439
<v Speaker 2>PGA Championship win is really cool. So I give those

1:09:14.479 --> 1:09:16.439
<v Speaker 2>guys a real nice nod.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be surprised the otherwise.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys that I was surprised with their performance would be

1:09:25.040 --> 1:09:34.520
<v Speaker 2>the Chamberne Ram really really surprised. I was very intrigued

1:09:34.680 --> 1:09:40.559
<v Speaker 2>to see how Bryson would play at Schinecock, knowing how

1:09:40.640 --> 1:09:45.479
<v Speaker 2>precise he had to be on approach, especially when the

1:09:45.520 --> 1:09:50.679
<v Speaker 2>win starts to blow. So he's two time US Open champion,

1:09:51.000 --> 1:09:54.120
<v Speaker 2>but I was very interested to see how he would

1:09:55.600 --> 1:09:59.720
<v Speaker 2>manage manage his game around what that golf course asks for.

1:10:00.960 --> 1:10:03.280
<v Speaker 2>And with regards Ram, I thought he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be one of the favorites to win the tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean with Rob two, the start he got off

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<v Speaker 3>to you were sitting in perfect position, caught the right

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<v Speaker 3>side of the wave, and then it just all fell apart.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That that totally caught me off. God, totally caught

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<v Speaker 2>me off. God, if you had if we had done

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast the week before the tournament and you asked

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<v Speaker 2>me to give you five names of guys I think

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<v Speaker 2>he could could win the US Open, he would have

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<v Speaker 2>been in my top five.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think everybody's kind of shocked by it.

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<v Speaker 3>I picked him to win, and you saw the four

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<v Speaker 3>of it at the PGA, you just thought it was

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<v Speaker 3>going to keep going, and you know, I think with

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<v Speaker 3>both them it as kind of the flag bearers of LIVE.

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<v Speaker 1>It cannot be easy.

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<v Speaker 3>To play golf, like we we talked about with Wyndham,

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<v Speaker 3>where when you're when you're not personally mentally in a

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<v Speaker 3>great space, golf gets really hard. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>think this is you know, one of the things that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they made their decisions and they you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they got paid for their decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it does add.

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<v Speaker 3>A layer to what's already an incredibly difficult sport and

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<v Speaker 3>given you know, just it could can't be the best

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<v Speaker 3>way to lead into these majors.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think there is some evidence that playing on

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<v Speaker 2>LIV doesn't necessarily hurt your chances in the majors. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen guys like Bryson and Brooks when he was

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<v Speaker 2>playing there, when major championships while they're playing at LIV.

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<v Speaker 2>I think right now what the challenge is. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've all read the same reports of their funding issues

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<v Speaker 2>and getting out there trying to figure out how they

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<v Speaker 2>can keep things going. If they can do that, what

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<v Speaker 2>the league actually looks like, I would say that is

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<v Speaker 2>probably weighing quite heavily on these players' minds right now.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen a number of them rejoin the DP World Tour,

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<v Speaker 2>so we can expect them to be playing some out

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<v Speaker 2>there as well. But to me, the uncertainty if I

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<v Speaker 2>was in that position, the uncertainty of where I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to play and what it's going to look like and

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<v Speaker 2>if it's going to be around, would be something that

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<v Speaker 2>would be bothering me. And so, you know, we're just

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<v Speaker 2>not quite sure. We don't really have all the information

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<v Speaker 2>to know how much it's affecting these guys and how

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<v Speaker 2>much it's playing on their minds.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you say, you know, as we look at this

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of the dynamic of the new schedule, it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's June, mid June, feels like summer just started. There's

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<v Speaker 3>only one major left. Would you say that Rom's the

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<v Speaker 3>player in your mind that that you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 3>for their professional satisfaction, We'll say most needs a strong

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<v Speaker 3>performance at Brokedale.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, you mean individually or you still? Yeah? You so

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<v Speaker 2>you're not this is not from a live standpoint?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you mean individually individually?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I think it's Bryson. I think it's Bryson because

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<v Speaker 2>he's missed the cut in all the majors so far

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<v Speaker 2>this year.

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<v Speaker 3>You got me the social posts up at the beginning

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<v Speaker 3>of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see that, But to me, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>the He's the one. I mean, Rom had a great

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<v Speaker 2>run at it at the PGA Championship and really got

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<v Speaker 2>himself in there and played some some beautiful golf. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I think it's Bryson that needs to u to

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<v Speaker 2>have a good Open Championship to least, you know, feel

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<v Speaker 2>like he finishes the year with some some momentum going

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<v Speaker 2>into the twenty twenty seven Majors.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's the answer is one of the

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<v Speaker 3>two of them, you know, in terms of just I

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I think from from Rob's standpoint, you always

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<v Speaker 3>go back to Bryson, I think has had these ups

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<v Speaker 3>and downs throughout his career. Our friends over at no

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<v Speaker 3>laying up have always you know, called Rom the booie,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and since it never he never goes underwater. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And I think for from his standpoint of of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>at what point do we kind of you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't I'm not ready to do this by a means,

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<v Speaker 3>but what point is he not one of those that

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<v Speaker 3>when you start naming guys you know, what point, does

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<v Speaker 3>he not one of those first four or five guys

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<v Speaker 3>that are listed off with best players in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a great question. A lot of it. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of it depends on where he plays and how

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<v Speaker 2>often he plays. You know, like you look, coming into

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<v Speaker 2>the first couple of Majors this year, he was winning

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<v Speaker 2>over it live and really competing well, and so he

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the favorites coming in, and then after

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<v Speaker 2>a disappointing Masters, you still felt like, Okay, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I expect maybe that was just a one off, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, at the PGA Championship he'll be right back

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<v Speaker 2>in it. And then he didn't play well there, and

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<v Speaker 2>now he didn't play well at the US Open, where

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<v Speaker 2>he's had success in the past as a two time winner.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, a lot of it depends on how

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<v Speaker 2>much he plays. You know, if he plays ten tournaments

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<v Speaker 2>between now and the Masters and wins four of them,

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<v Speaker 2>by the time the Masters rolls around, will be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy is still one of our favorites. But if

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't play well at the Open and then we

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<v Speaker 2>don't see very much of him until the Masters, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we rarely don't know what to expect from him at

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<v Speaker 2>that point. So you know, a lot of it is

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<v Speaker 2>going to depend on where these guys play and how

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<v Speaker 2>much they play, they play and what their league looks like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, So we're going to learn that here over

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<v Speaker 2>the next few months.

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<v Speaker 3>I think personally, you know, this is I'd like to

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<v Speaker 3>see Rob kind of have a have a little run

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<v Speaker 3>allah Patrick Reid where he goes on to the DP

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<v Speaker 3>World Tour and you know, a tour that he should

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<v Speaker 3>dominate and goes and dominates and you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 3>one of the nice things about it is that there's

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<v Speaker 3>some big tournaments that don't conflict with with the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the existing lif schedule that you could play it there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be very interesting obviously, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for both of those guys, but in particular John Rohm.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's gonna have to play a certain amount

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<v Speaker 2>of tournaments to try and get on that ryde A

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<v Speaker 2>Cup team, which he should be and which we all

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<v Speaker 2>know that he wants to be and we all know

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<v Speaker 2>that Luke Donald wants him to be, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I anticipate him playing enough tournaments to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Trevor it was great chatting with you. Great to

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<v Speaker 3>break down another major championship. I can't believe we're we're

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<v Speaker 3>done with three. We'll have to discuss the big news

1:17:53.160 --> 1:17:57.439
<v Speaker 3>with the golf ball and the USKA another time. I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't going to open that box of rocks at over

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<v Speaker 3>an hour in Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm glad you didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>But uh, look at miss your messy on the on

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<v Speaker 3>the telecast. But uh, and we'll mess you for for

1:18:11.640 --> 1:18:15.080
<v Speaker 3>the uh for the Open. But always exciting and fun

1:18:15.120 --> 1:18:17.599
<v Speaker 3>to chat chat through things. And you're you're heading over

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<v Speaker 3>to Scotland. Any plans to play a little golf while

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<v Speaker 3>you're over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do have some plans. We're looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a tournament that we absolutely love being a part

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<v Speaker 2>of at CBS. We love going over to the Scottish Open.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had a bunch of great finishes there over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's going to be a strong field, which is great,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, it's a it's a it's a wonderful leading

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<v Speaker 2>to the the Open Championship week. So yeah, I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>over there playing a little golf and then getting ready

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<v Speaker 2>for the weekend broadcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I'll be watching the Open on TV UH and UH,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we go on a run all the way

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<v Speaker 2>through the end of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>So then we got the peekat President's right.

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<v Speaker 2>We're working hard on that. Jeff is absolutely crushing it

1:19:07.600 --> 1:19:11.639
<v Speaker 2>at this point. Really excited for him huge. I'm a huge,

1:19:11.720 --> 1:19:14.640
<v Speaker 2>huge fan of his and I think he's going to

1:19:14.680 --> 1:19:18.040
<v Speaker 2>do a great job. And you know, I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to that week. It's going to be awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm jealous.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw you guys signed up a golf loving, world

1:19:24.000 --> 1:19:28.840
<v Speaker 3>class chef to the for the team chef that that's uh,

1:19:29.080 --> 1:19:31.439
<v Speaker 3>you know, a chef of one of the one of

1:19:31.479 --> 1:19:32.960
<v Speaker 3>the great Chicago restaurants.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know that that news was was extremely well

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<v Speaker 2>received in our squad. It's gonna it's gonna be such

1:19:42.160 --> 1:19:44.559
<v Speaker 2>a great week. The weather that time of year, as

1:19:44.600 --> 1:19:48.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, should be wonderful. The new golf courses and

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<v Speaker 2>the changes to to Ma Dina Country Club are just spectacular.

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<v Speaker 2>I I I can't see why there just wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>tons and tons of fans out there enjoying the weather,

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<v Speaker 2>enjoying the course, enjoying the action and the intensity and

1:20:05.479 --> 1:20:09.519
<v Speaker 2>excitement of it. So I hope everybody knocks it out

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<v Speaker 2>the park. Man, I'm really looking forward to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, the quickest way to win over that Chicago fan

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<v Speaker 3>base would that time of year would be would be

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<v Speaker 3>getting getting your boys and Bears uniforms. I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if you want to do some charm offensive.

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<v Speaker 3>It worked for the Europeans a little bit, and New

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<v Speaker 3>York go on the charm offensive. Guess get some Bears uniforms.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you can win over the crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the Indiana baz you speak on?

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<v Speaker 1>They'll be the Chicago Bears this year?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, Yeah, yeah, Look, it's gonna be awesome. It's

1:20:43.280 --> 1:20:49.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna be so awesome. H What a sports town, what

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<v Speaker 2>a place. Really really looking forward to that week.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, we'll talk to you after the Open. Trevor,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks as always.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, boys, good to shall with you.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, that does it for this US Open recap.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a couple technical difficulties, so we worked through it.

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<v Speaker 3>And the only way we were able to work through

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<v Speaker 3>it is our great producer PJ Clark. Big thanks to Pj.

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<v Speaker 3>He was grinding this week. Last week he did the

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<v Speaker 3>Hunter Hole hike. This week he had us all in

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<v Speaker 3>Long Island, and he was on the ones and twoes

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<v Speaker 3>almost every night for Shotgun Start. Big thanks to PJ

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<v Speaker 3>for a hard week of work and producing this podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>getting this all together and out on Monday night, so

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<v Speaker 3>we'll be back next week. And thank you as always

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<v Speaker 3>for listening to the Friday Golf podcast. Se