Speaker 1: Are you leaving a you wanna way back home? Either way,
Speaker 1: we want to be there, doesn't matter how much baggage
Speaker 1: you claim and give us time and a terminol and gay.
Speaker 2: We want to send you off in style. Do you
Speaker 2: wanna welcome you back home? Tell us all about it?
Speaker 2: We scared? Or was it fine?
Speaker 3: Malcorn?
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 3: Ride? Do you need.
Speaker 4: With Karen and Chris welcome to Do you need a ride?
Speaker 4: This is Chris Fairbanks.
Speaker 2: And this is Karen Kilgaroff.
Speaker 4: Oh, I have so much to report Canada?
Speaker 2: Is it about Canada? Mostly?
Speaker 4: Did you know that Justin Trudeau has been asking, Oh,
Speaker 4: I do know a little bit about Candid? Yeah, well,
Speaker 4: there's a lot there's a lot of right wing folks
Speaker 4: that are saying this is the virus is meant to
Speaker 4: exterminate specifically white people because you talk about what you
Speaker 4: know up in can and he's he asked them. I
Speaker 4: saw in the news, he asked them to please stop.
Speaker 4: That's what I know about Canada.
Speaker 2: My thing is I saw that there was truckers trying
Speaker 2: to unite against you know, fear. What it feels like
Speaker 2: to me fear. But I think deep down there jealous
Speaker 2: of his just high tight ass. Justin Trudeau has one
Speaker 2: of the greatest asses in politics.
Speaker 4: How have you seen his ass?
Speaker 2: Karen friend? It has been made available to me.
Speaker 4: Really you got some body shots?
Speaker 2: Well, not Bear, but I mean, like, you know, people
Speaker 2: have commented when he's like, I don't know, makes a
Speaker 2: speech and then turns around everybody like, am I right
Speaker 2: you guys behind me?
Speaker 4: Sorry, I wasn't listening. I'm trying to google Bear Trudeau
Speaker 4: butt shot.
Speaker 2: It's not I'm not saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wait a minute. I got put on a government
Speaker 4: watch list.
Speaker 2: A Canadian watch list. That's very nice about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, I didn't really have anything to report.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you came in with that Canada business, Chris.
Speaker 2: I'll always support you and then totally derailed. You know
Speaker 2: that about me?
Speaker 4: I know it keeps me on my toes.
Speaker 2: Hey, is it time?
Speaker 4: It is time? You know we did our get to
Speaker 4: know each other as hosts get to be acquainted.
Speaker 2: After eight years.
Speaker 4: Yes, and I'm very excited about our guests today.
Speaker 2: I was the feeling I had when I saw his
Speaker 2: name pop up in the email. Was first of all,
Speaker 2: let me just say it relief, Yes, because I said
Speaker 2: no heavy lifting on this one. Giggles abound.
Speaker 4: Not that anyone's been difficult, but you do have. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's like when you don't know someone at all, we
Speaker 4: get a little nervous. We admit that. We usually open
Speaker 4: and by saying we don't know this person, so we're scared.
Speaker 2: We're scared. We don't want them to not like us.
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of junior high elements coming into play.
Speaker 4: Not today with Chris Garcia, I know I can't fuck
Speaker 4: it up.
Speaker 2: Hell, yes, lady and gentlemen. He plays couple in colleges
Speaker 2: all over you. It's Chris Garcia.
Speaker 4: Chris Garcia.
Speaker 3: Ever, I see nothing for five minutes. Thank you so much,
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me back. Nice to see y'all.
Speaker 4: It's great to see you. Actually, great to see you.
Speaker 4: You're one of the most recent people I've seen as
Speaker 4: far as guests go. Yeah, you were. We were a
Speaker 4: little joy. You had just done one of your one
Speaker 4: of your shows there and we sat for a minute recently.
Speaker 3: That's right. It felt so normal. Yeah, like a late
Speaker 3: night hang. Yeah, it was one of the one of
Speaker 3: the few late night hangs. It wasn't even that late.
Speaker 3: It was probably till eleven or something hangout after a
Speaker 3: show and we just sat at the bar and talked
Speaker 3: and talked to some i think random people until like,
Speaker 3: yeah eleven. It was so nice. I think it was
Speaker 3: the only time I've done that after a show ye
Speaker 3: in the last two years, And I'm glad I did
Speaker 3: it with you because it was so fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Can you just go over a couple of the stuff
Speaker 2: things you talked about, because that sounds like a dream.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: What did we talk about.
Speaker 2: Sitting and chatting?
Speaker 4: We talked a.
Speaker 5: Boy, nothing stands out. I'm not saying it wasn't good conversation.
Speaker 5: It was just onto the next decent topics, so nothing
Speaker 5: really stood out.
Speaker 3: It was an easy conversation and it was fun. I
Speaker 3: don't remember any of it.
Speaker 4: We talked about having the same first name.
Speaker 2: You did not we because it's third grade.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm like, did you ever get a nickname
Speaker 4: or were you the one that was always designated as
Speaker 4: Chris When you're hanging out with four other we have
Speaker 4: a very common name for our age bracket. You have
Speaker 4: a lot of Chris friends, Right, Chris, I have.
Speaker 3: A lot of Christians. I'm well, we talked about this
Speaker 3: for at least forty five minutes state. But I'm Christian
Speaker 3: and you're a Christopher, right, you know it's slightly different,
Speaker 3: but a lot of Latino Christians, out of Latino followers
Speaker 3: of Christ. It maybe people who aren't as committed as
Speaker 3: Heesus will go by Christian. I think that's what it is.
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite things in the world that
Speaker 2: people actually have the name. And when I as I
Speaker 2: read it as a white girl from a farm, it's
Speaker 2: like and you know, Marie and Jesus, and it's just
Speaker 2: like Jesus is gonna be there. This is amazing. It's amazing.
Speaker 3: A lot of pressure, a lot of pressure.
Speaker 4: My name altogether, Christopher James Fairbanks often gets cut off
Speaker 4: on a ticket or something of airplane ticket? Is that
Speaker 4: what they're called? And I really I feel like I
Speaker 4: can't I'm not worthy when it gets it's abbreviated to
Speaker 4: christ I just don't know that I have that quality.
Speaker 4: But I'm a Christopher, of course, Christopher being the patron
Speaker 4: saint of I believe the ocean. In Hawaii, I got
Speaker 4: a little tiny medallion that Saint Christopher on it and
Speaker 4: ironically lost it swimming in the ocean. What does that mean?
Speaker 2: It mean I'm not going to argue you, right, that's rude.
Speaker 2: It's a podcast who cares? But as a Catholic forced Catholic,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say. The first thing that Saint Christopher is
Speaker 2: a patron saint of is the ocean first? Only because right,
Speaker 2: it's ironically patron saint of lost things?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Or is it driving a car?
Speaker 4: Or or is it coincidentally or is it I believe
Speaker 4: there was a list and I had to google until
Speaker 4: I finally found Ocean on there.
Speaker 2: Oh, you were picking and choosing. You give me a
Speaker 2: cafeteria about what There's.
Speaker 4: The Saint of a lot of negative stuff, and then
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, the ocean. I'm like, okay, I'll
Speaker 4: hang with that, but not, you know, the Saint of lies.
Speaker 4: I think that's one of them. I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 4: I think a story. But my dad always taught me like,
Speaker 4: it's okay to lie, it makes the story better. So
Speaker 4: I became a liar. I lie a lot for a living.
Speaker 4: I'm lying right now. I never lost a necklace while
Speaker 4: swimming in the ocean.
Speaker 2: Of lies.
Speaker 4: I will please.
Speaker 2: Saint Christopher helped me think of a good lie right
Speaker 2: now to get out of work.
Speaker 4: Oh please please.
Speaker 3: Catholic lies. When I was a kid, my parents lied
Speaker 3: about where we live and go to this Catholic school.
Speaker 3: We live Englewood, but there's a Catholic school in Westchester
Speaker 3: that they wanted me to go to. So we had
Speaker 3: I had to get baptized, and so they had to
Speaker 3: bring my I just showed up with my parents to
Speaker 3: get baptized on a Saturday for this priest, and the
Speaker 3: priest said, where are your godparents? And then my dad
Speaker 3: came back with my sister who is eighteen, and our
Speaker 3: fifty year old mechanic, and.
Speaker 2: They were like, yeah, oh my God.
Speaker 3: So we lied just so I can go to the school.
Speaker 3: But that felt like even as a little kid, I mean,
Speaker 3: Catholic church is creepy and where you get baptized whatever
Speaker 3: that weird creepy room is. But having my parents lie
Speaker 3: in that situation, I still feel it. If I if
Speaker 3: I could, I could picture that room and feel that
Speaker 3: lie that this this guy named his name was Wachel Jesus.
Speaker 6: It was my sister Laura eighteen, maybe tops fifty year
Speaker 6: old mechanic who had a had he had his his
Speaker 6: garage was in his actual garage, so he ran. He
Speaker 6: was like a car mechanic out of his house named Weechol,
Speaker 6: who was like just came from his mechanic shop.
Speaker 3: He was covered in and stuff and he's like okay,
Speaker 3: and I was like what the hell. Then my parents
Speaker 3: and my dad's was like, go on, what a fucker
Speaker 3: for you to have a better education, and uh yeah,
Speaker 3: that started my descent into Catholicism. It started from there
Speaker 3: because my parents really weren't Catholic.
Speaker 2: So, oh, the whole thing was a sham.
Speaker 3: The whole thing was pretty much a sham. So my parents,
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess they were kind of Catholic in Cuba,
Speaker 3: but they weren't Catholic in America. They're just like, we
Speaker 3: want you to go to a school where you're not
Speaker 3: going to get shot, so we're just going to pretend.
Speaker 3: And so we did that for a long time.
Speaker 2: I think if Jesus knew that that was a good lie,
Speaker 2: that was like.
Speaker 3: Jesus and Chris's dad knew that was a good lie.
Speaker 3: It was worth it, and it all worked out in
Speaker 3: the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, lying for education is okay.
Speaker 4: Did the guy I'm going to just call him a
Speaker 4: superintendent of at school did he seem to was he
Speaker 4: taken aback by their age gap or was he like
Speaker 4: it's fine, Hey, I.
Speaker 3: Think it was fine.
Speaker 2: Remember that.
Speaker 3: I remember being like, this is weird. But then I'm
Speaker 3: sure like they're probably like that's how the Latinos do
Speaker 3: you know they do it?
Speaker 2: You know, they love the mechanic has to be in
Speaker 2: the family. They love to include the mechanic and all
Speaker 2: their stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they just, I guess just went along with it.
Speaker 3: I mean it worked.
Speaker 2: I mean technically god parents don't have to be themselves
Speaker 2: like you know, married or anything, but they are responsible
Speaker 2: for your basically for your spiritual lifestyle. So you should
Speaker 2: go back to that mechanic and be like, I've lost
Speaker 2: my way and you have done nothing to help you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, in the the minute he feels guilty about it,
Speaker 4: that's when you ask for a free break job.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Cho what's the name of that.
Speaker 3: Just we cho would is like a crazy nickname. My
Speaker 3: dad also called him fail, which is ugly, which so
Speaker 3: my dad and my sister. My dad was basically like, yeah,
Speaker 3: if I die. I mean, this mom specialist is your
Speaker 3: new spiritual dad. That's good, that's good. We chose got you,
Speaker 3: We got you. We chose long, we chose probably one
Speaker 3: hundred years old if he's around, but you're listening.
Speaker 2: We chose God bless you. We chose.
Speaker 4: Made the ocean bless you. So that was here Inglewood
Speaker 4: as in Inglewood Lost. And I don't know why I
Speaker 4: thought you were a Bay Area kid because you just
Speaker 4: because he lived there once that means you were born.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where I started comedy and stuff. But I
Speaker 3: grew up. I grew up down here.
Speaker 4: Okay, you weren't born in Kuoite Tower. Okay, I was
Speaker 4: not born Tower. I just assumed.
Speaker 2: That's right. Let's every comic thinks every comic is from
Speaker 2: the city they started comedy and because that's just what
Speaker 2: counts most.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there are still people that can't get over the
Speaker 4: fact I don't have a Texas accent.
Speaker 3: That's for you, He's from Austin or something. Yea.
Speaker 4: And comedy wise, I go along with it, because if
Speaker 4: you say you're a comedian that started in Montana, no
Speaker 4: one really takes you seriously.
Speaker 2: People just kind of drift off their eyes just kind
Speaker 2: of flick off to the side and they start thinking
Speaker 2: about something else.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just assume we're on zoom. I'm not going
Speaker 4: to take that personally.
Speaker 2: Staring off amazing, amazing zoom revelation that thinking you're making
Speaker 2: eye contact with someone isn't the truth on zoom.
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm so weird. You don't know where which square? Like, say,
Speaker 4: right now, Karen, which square? Am I to you?
Speaker 2: Bottom? Left? Baby?
Speaker 4: Your bottom right is? Garcy is bottom left?
Speaker 2: Baby, he's my bottom right, baby, you're my bottom right.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: What we're trying to tell you right now is you're
Speaker 4: accidentally using a baby filter.
Speaker 2: Which one's the baby? I don't understand.
Speaker 4: Am I a cat again?
Speaker 2: I'm okay. At the moment, yes, that COVID moment or
Speaker 2: that quarantine moment when the man made himself a cat
Speaker 2: and couldn't stop being a cat.
Speaker 4: We were happy for weeks, the whole country. It was
Speaker 4: the only time we felt close.
Speaker 2: Again, Chris, do you know do you remember that story?
Speaker 3: No, there was a guy that just pretended to be
Speaker 3: a cat.
Speaker 2: No, it was on a legal procedure on zoom, and
Speaker 2: he was right when COVID started and his children. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was like he was the judge or the plaintiff
Speaker 2: or the lawyer, and his children had been using the
Speaker 2: zoom before him, so there was a cat filter on
Speaker 2: his face that he couldn't get rid of, and I
Speaker 2: was apologizing.
Speaker 4: You have to look at the video.
Speaker 2: It's so brilliant. I don't think people could laugh as
Speaker 2: hard as they can now, because at the time we
Speaker 2: were all just so bewildered and freaked out that it
Speaker 2: was like, ha, ha, what's happening.
Speaker 4: It's it's not just like ha, how old people don't
Speaker 4: get technology. It's that at one point he actually feels
Speaker 4: like he needs to say it's actually me, I'm not
Speaker 4: a cat. He actually felt they needed to say that.
Speaker 2: Is so great legally, this is for the record court reporter,
Speaker 2: I'm not a cat. Technically I like this store. Also,
Speaker 2: there was a lady that went to the bathroom, took
Speaker 2: her laptop into the bathroom because she didn't think people
Speaker 2: could see her. Do you remember that one?
Speaker 4: Are you thinking of the naked gun?
Speaker 3: It was really queen.
Speaker 4: And then and then tries to tries to kill Reggie.
Speaker 2: Jackson, and then she's saying some opera I think what happened.
Speaker 2: No Yeah, that was That was one where it was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: so many great things have happened on Zoom. Let's keep
Speaker 2: it positive about Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we appreciate you Zozoom. If you're listening and we
Speaker 4: know you are.
Speaker 2: Chris, what's Chris Garcia, Chris Gie, what's the uh? Do
Speaker 2: you have any favorite Zoom memories of quarantine or being
Speaker 2: forced to socialize?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they can also be terrible, worst or best.
Speaker 2: Come on top five back top five good.
Speaker 3: I don't have any that I could think of. I don't.
Speaker 3: I didn't come prepared. I got a whole email about
Speaker 3: this days in advance, be prepared to talk about zoom
Speaker 3: in your favorite Zoom moments and pictures. Yeah, I did not.
Speaker 3: I don't. I can't think of any.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you you have a new baby, well new
Speaker 2: to me baby. You have a she sunny, a toddler.
Speaker 3: She's she turns one on Sunday, so not quite toddling,
Speaker 3: not quite toddling, still still a baby, almost almost a
Speaker 3: one year old.
Speaker 2: Congratulations, thank you. Yeah, that's so exciting. Do you think
Speaker 2: that's part of the reason you don't have any Zoom memories?
Speaker 3: It's you don't have any memories.
Speaker 4: Nothing else matters anymore.
Speaker 3: Everything is gone. No, I'm just so exhausted. I have
Speaker 3: no memories and nothing else matters. No, it's really uh,
Speaker 3: it's really sweet. And while we're at it, we're all
Speaker 3: been in home forever, locked in home. It's not like
Speaker 3: it wasn't the worst time to have a baby. So
Speaker 3: I just feel lucky to be able to see her
Speaker 3: all the time.
Speaker 4: And yeah, in the beginning when I remember joking about
Speaker 4: how it was terrible timing, but it yeah, it was
Speaker 4: the best timing. It turns out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it turns up at every time is a
Speaker 3: terrible time, right, it's really whoa wow, what a hard,
Speaker 3: relentless responsibility it is. But no time is really a
Speaker 3: good time. But this, I mean, it's it's it's been
Speaker 3: a fine time. It's she's really sweet and it's nice
Speaker 3: to spend a lot of time with her. And yeah,
Speaker 3: she's a real, real, real cookie, cool little kid.
Speaker 2: Here's my question. This is amazing follow up, it's going
Speaker 2: to be great.
Speaker 4: Oh, I can't wait.
Speaker 2: Did you did your sister Laura? I also have a
Speaker 2: sister Laura. Did your sister Laura have any kids? Like,
Speaker 2: do you have any experience with kids? Is this the
Speaker 2: family's first baby, like what's this, what's sunny status?
Speaker 3: Well, as a Latino man, I've been an uncle since
Speaker 3: I was ten, So I've been an uncle many times over.
Speaker 3: My grandma's seventeen years old, and so I have a
Speaker 3: lot of experience with being around kids. My sister has
Speaker 3: three kids, and I've been an uncle for a long time,
Speaker 3: and my mom now fourth grand She's like, I don't
Speaker 3: give a ship the baby just like she holds it
Speaker 3: just like it's a plastic bag filled with dog food
Speaker 3: or something random.
Speaker 4: Like she doesn't.
Speaker 3: I'm like, momm you're holding her on She's like they're fine.
Speaker 3: She's like she just does not she does not care.
Speaker 3: She's just all she wants is for her to get
Speaker 3: her ears pierced, which is so so classic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why is so classic? That's Latina. Latina babies, Yeah, Latina.
Speaker 3: Like we brought her home from the hospital and she
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, where's her ear rings? And
Speaker 3: that was like she was just she was like they
Speaker 3: have a service at the hospital, like they have a
Speaker 3: whole immigrant wing for this, or you can just go.
Speaker 3: A lot of Italian and Armenian babies are there. You're out,
Speaker 3: You're in and out in five minutes. And it's funny.
Speaker 3: We have an armenian. Uh, like pediatrist is out. They
Speaker 3: are and pedutrician. I think, yeah, ball of ear rings,
Speaker 3: all of ear rings.
Speaker 2: That you can buy for me?
Speaker 3: Is that the doctor?
Speaker 4: Why is that? I wonder? That is so curious.
Speaker 2: She looks so cute. It looks so cute.
Speaker 4: I get, okay.
Speaker 3: Because it's no.
Speaker 4: I just wondered if she secretly works at Clayer's in
Speaker 4: the mall. They make a lot of ear rings for babies,
Speaker 4: and I always thought, what a weird business. But I
Speaker 4: didn't know there's so many grandmas clamoring for pierced baby ears.
Speaker 3: She's really all about it. She bugs me about it
Speaker 3: every time. And I think part of it is so
Speaker 3: you could tell that it's a girl. Maybe I think
Speaker 3: that's important to like, hey, this is a girl, not
Speaker 3: a boy, because they're all bald for a while. And uh,
Speaker 3: but then I don't know. She it's very important for
Speaker 3: my mom for this to be a girly girl. And
Speaker 3: it's I don't know she's it's not even really her vibe,
Speaker 3: but who knows. But my mom also bought her baby
Speaker 3: cologne like a Cuban style baby cologne that's called it's
Speaker 3: Violets and Roses, and it's this purple. It's like it
Speaker 3: looks like it's anti freeze or something, and it's a
Speaker 3: Cuban baby cologne as if, Like, if you wonder how
Speaker 3: someone turns into pitbull, it could be because a baby colone.
Speaker 3: But on the back of the package it says keep
Speaker 3: out of reach of children, flammable Like.
Speaker 6: It's like.
Speaker 3: And my mom's like, you have to put baby colone
Speaker 3: on the baby. It's really crazy.
Speaker 2: Also, you know, obviously it's a you know what if
Speaker 2: it's a tradition or if it's if it's what your
Speaker 2: family does or whatever. But there are a few things
Speaker 2: that smell as good as babies, just right, Yeah, why
Speaker 2: would you want to cover that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a whole evolutionary adaptation. It turns out they
Speaker 3: what babies smell good. They smell like little muff and
Speaker 3: so you keep them around and you want to care
Speaker 3: for that. That's when they do that. And my mom
Speaker 3: is like, fuck that. I want her to smell like
Speaker 3: she's going out to a club and trying to fuck
Speaker 3: some chicks. Like that's why my mom wants her to smell.
Speaker 3: I'm my mom, they smell good already.
Speaker 2: She's like na, not as good as vio lettus, as.
Speaker 3: Good as let us. We want this kid to attract
Speaker 3: members of the opposite sex. Whatever, we all.
Speaker 4: Get these high heeled juice for babies. Come on, that's
Speaker 4: good happening.
Speaker 3: That's the next step is the high heel I don't know.
Speaker 2: I wonder too, because my niece is half Irish, half Mexican,
Speaker 2: and when she was born she had like a sixty
Speaker 2: five year old retirees head of hair. It was so funny.
Speaker 2: We couldn't control it. She my sister had to like
Speaker 2: slick it down constantly. And I wonder if that's like
Speaker 2: she came out to the womb with this little cap
Speaker 2: of black hair that was so hilarious. And I wonder
Speaker 2: if that too, is like they immediately have this cute
Speaker 2: almost like a Louise Brooks bob and little gold earrings
Speaker 2: are the perfect accessory for that automatic hair, the haircut
Speaker 2: that they have. So I don't know, I mean, that's
Speaker 2: I totally support the earring side, even though I know
Speaker 2: there's lots of people are like, why would you do
Speaker 2: that to a baby. It's like it only hurts for
Speaker 2: half an hour and then it's so cute because they're
Speaker 2: tiny and they're like it's so perfect. But know what,
Speaker 2: but cologne is next level, next level, that's next level. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The more we're talking about it, the more I'm really
Speaker 4: on board with babies and ear rings now that I'm thinking,
Speaker 4: like my my good friend Ross, his baby, the patch
Speaker 4: of hair that he was born with was in the back,
Speaker 4: so it was just like a mullet that was there,
Speaker 4: And wouldn't that look cool with just one ear ring,
Speaker 4: like a like a George Michael faith Cross just from
Speaker 4: one ear like the coolest baby ever. And you don't
Speaker 4: want to put the cologne on that baby because he smokes.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but also if you give your baby baby cologne,
Speaker 3: you are probably actively smoking. Like that is just a
Speaker 3: fire hazard, that is dangerous. Well, Sonny is bald on top,
Speaker 3: and she has a straight up mullet. She has like
Speaker 3: a sandy blonde mullet. And now you can't put the
Speaker 3: earring on that because she'll look like some like nineteen
Speaker 3: nineties minor league picture hasn't wear underwear, you know, hot rojack,
Speaker 3: like one of those white trash tired king baseball players
Speaker 3: in the nineties. Yeah, just yeah, that's not a good
Speaker 3: look my daughter.
Speaker 4: Now I want them to make jock straps for babies. Yeah,
Speaker 4: fuck god, I just.
Speaker 2: Want It's a whole fascinating world. But I think once
Speaker 2: parents get into it, like, well, I don't know anything
Speaker 2: about this, not except for through my sister. Like I
Speaker 2: know that on my sister's husband's side, they wanted Nora
Speaker 2: to get earrings really young, and my sister was kind
Speaker 2: of like, it just seems, you know, like let's hold
Speaker 2: off or whatever, like she she kind of kept it
Speaker 2: at bay, but I was like, I don't know, I'm
Speaker 2: kind of I'm into it. But that's the only other
Speaker 2: than that, I wouldn't know anything about any of that stuff.
Speaker 2: Which I bet it's like if people weren't so exhausted
Speaker 2: who had babies, they would be they would report be
Speaker 2: reporting back much more of the insanity because now babies
Speaker 2: are marketed to in such a crazy way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's NonStop. It's just like a whole it's it's
Speaker 3: taken over my algorithm and stuff, like it's no longer
Speaker 3: comedy clips and stuff. It's like a would if your
Speaker 3: baby doesn't play with this wooden toy it's gonna, you.
Speaker 4: Know, be bad at math.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be just like no. It was like really scary,
Speaker 3: and there's a real pressure to be perfect and stuff.
Speaker 3: But my wife is like very Midwestern and very like,
Speaker 3: but she's like, there's no way we're putting any ear
Speaker 3: rings on her. There's no way, like she says, like,
Speaker 3: I guess they can grow back. I mean your ear
Speaker 3: can grow in a weird way, so your ear earring
Speaker 3: could just be like in a weird, random part of
Speaker 3: your ear.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then but I had to explain to her that
Speaker 3: she had to wear the baby clown when my mom
Speaker 3: comes open, yeah, and I she was like, she is
Speaker 3: not wearing that. I mean she she basically uses just
Speaker 3: like I don't know what kind of like Hippi stuff
Speaker 3: she puts on her daughter, but it's like all natural stuff.
Speaker 3: And I was like, we have to, and I put
Speaker 3: it on. Yeah, you can't be racist, I was. She's
Speaker 3: like okay, And so I was like just one sprit
Speaker 3: from far away and the whole house smelled for like
Speaker 3: forty eight hours and then my mom didn't even notice,
Speaker 3: Like she was like I was like waiting. I was like,
Speaker 3: She's like, oh, she's wearing the beyond that dust and
Speaker 3: she was like, I didn't even notice it at all.
Speaker 3: So I'm just we're just not using I'm keeping it
Speaker 3: like kind of is a prop because it's as it says,
Speaker 3: baby clone on it. It's really funny and I'm just
Speaker 3: going to keep it around.
Speaker 4: I love.
Speaker 2: Get the baby botox, baby baby Lee press on nails,
Speaker 2: come on, get them all.
Speaker 4: That excites me. I just love, you know, miniatures. I
Speaker 4: just I like the shoes. I know I'm going to
Speaker 4: be into the shoes. Once i have a baby kicking
Speaker 4: around the house.
Speaker 2: Well then cool, that's even more meaningful that you. You
Speaker 2: both you Chris has got to have a hangtime because
Speaker 2: I bet you don't get to do it as much
Speaker 2: with a baby in the mix. Chris Garcia, Yeah, not
Speaker 2: as much.
Speaker 3: And it's nice, you know, I like I do, but
Speaker 3: I do miss going out. I'm such I've been doing
Speaker 3: saying it for fifteen years or something. Now, like nighttime,
Speaker 3: it's just our time. It's like that's where we have
Speaker 3: the most fun. That's where our lives are, That's where
Speaker 3: we have all these fun thoughts and all this fun.
Speaker 3: And so I do I love being at home with
Speaker 3: the baby, and you know, but after she goes to bed,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I just want to go out and do
Speaker 3: stand up and tell jokes.
Speaker 4: Well, there's not a lot of stand up going on.
Speaker 4: You're missing out on one show every two weeks or so.
Speaker 3: It's so dumb. It's such a comedy mind that to
Speaker 3: see people doing comedy in other cities during COVID, like
Speaker 3: risking all this COVID stuff, and me being like, I'm
Speaker 3: not dedicated enough, Like I'm just not enough. Like it's
Speaker 3: such a sign about this is such a mental illness,
Speaker 3: Like I just got to go to New York. I don't
Speaker 3: know what I'm doing here.
Speaker 4: I like, I got to go to New York and
Speaker 4: immediately come back and be around my baby. How How
Speaker 4: involved did Sonny with your your podcast? About that? What's
Speaker 4: the musician say?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, tell us about the podcast please.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. So I'm hosting this podcast called Finding Raffi,
Speaker 3: which is about the Canadian children singer Raffi, who was
Speaker 3: really popular in the seventies eight.
Speaker 4: I know, I know, you know, I know about Canada.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, you know everything about Canada.
Speaker 2: Raffi, the patron saint of songs for Babies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, they it's a sequel to this one
Speaker 3: podcast called Finding Fred that was this really great podcast
Speaker 3: about mister Rogers a couple of years ago. And so
Speaker 3: this company had, these people had, these producers had reached
Speaker 3: out to me and like, have you ever heard of Raffi?
Speaker 3: And I was like, I just heard of Raffi for
Speaker 3: the first time last week, Like what's when Sunny was
Speaker 3: two months old? And and you know, val my wife
Speaker 3: grew up with Raffi and I know a lot of
Speaker 3: people that didn't. And so they're like, would you host?
Speaker 3: And it was really nice because after my podcast Scattered,
Speaker 3: which is about my dad and taking his ashes back
Speaker 3: to Cuba, all these producers were like, so, do you
Speaker 3: want to do a podcast about like the death industrial complex,
Speaker 3: or like do you want to do a podcast about grief?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, no, dude, I'm fucking crying. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about my dead dad anymore.
Speaker 3: I mean I think about him all the time. But
Speaker 3: it was kind of a lot, and so it was
Speaker 3: refreshing that these folks were just like, do you want
Speaker 3: to And I was like, oh my god, Scattered I
Speaker 3: did that during this chunk of my life. And this
Speaker 3: is like a new a different chunk of my life,
Speaker 3: and I could actually I don't know, it just seemed
Speaker 3: like a good time for me to talk to this
Speaker 3: really nice older man about something I love, which is
Speaker 3: music and like being sweet to kids.
Speaker 4: So the whole series is he's involved as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know if he was alive. I honestly
Speaker 3: didn't know any of this stuff. And he's alive, and
Speaker 3: he was in Western Canada and he's just a sweet,
Speaker 3: cool little bit of like an old hippie dude. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he's I you know, I talked to him probably
Speaker 3: ten times or something via Zoom just that like had
Speaker 3: all these conversations with him, and it's so interesting to
Speaker 3: talk to He's like the Beatles of kids music. He's
Speaker 3: like a huge deal. And he dedicated the whole podcast
Speaker 3: to Sonny. He like he's played songs for her, like
Speaker 3: they met her zoom and he was like, Sonny, how
Speaker 3: are you? And he like played little songs and was
Speaker 3: just so sweet. And so the whole podcast is really
Speaker 3: about the idea of like respect and respecting children and
Speaker 3: respecting each other and the earth and all these things,
Speaker 3: and it covers a whole bunch of different topics. And
Speaker 3: I talked to like professors about like music and child development,
Speaker 3: even like the Armenian Jennis I had with Raffi's Armenian
Speaker 3: and like just really and I talked to like environmentalists
Speaker 3: and all these And I talked to Ziggy Marley, who's
Speaker 3: like pivoted to like children's music. Oh wow, well, and
Speaker 3: I talked to Jacques Cousto's grandson, like all these random
Speaker 3: people about Raffi, who Tony Hale Buster from Arrest of
Speaker 3: the Fan, Chris Hayes is in it, and just like
Speaker 3: a lot of random people who really love and know
Speaker 3: Raffi and his causes and stuff. And it's been really,
Speaker 3: it's what a cool time. I can't believe that this
Speaker 3: just fell on my lap. That I get to have
Speaker 3: like a baby that absolutely goes bonkers over Raffi and
Speaker 3: I get to like know the guy at the same time.
Speaker 3: It's really did.
Speaker 2: Anyone explain to you, sorry, did anyone explain like what
Speaker 2: the magic of Raffi is with kids? Like it's you know,
Speaker 2: in the same way with mister Rogers where you watch
Speaker 2: that documentary, Like I tried to watch the Mister Rogers
Speaker 2: documentary on a plane and I was crying so hard
Speaker 2: within the first fifteen minutes that I had to turn
Speaker 2: it off because the man next to me was uncomfortable
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, this is this is super
Speaker 2: weird me. But what got me so bad was looking
Speaker 2: at those children looking at him the way they were
Speaker 2: like in awe, like you are the most magical person
Speaker 2: in the world, like did did? Was there any kind
Speaker 2: of background about like what Raffi's hook or like how
Speaker 2: he got kids to love him so much?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I talked to a couple of different people about it,
Speaker 3: and it's he's just like that, Like he sits in
Speaker 3: a room full of kids and they can't take their
Speaker 3: eyes off. And there's many things where like he's he's
Speaker 3: got some X factors where he's like kind of interesting looking,
Speaker 3: and he's got like these big, really in like engaging
Speaker 3: eyes and like a sweet he has a very sweetmeanor
Speaker 3: and a very gentle voice. But from talking to like musicologists,
Speaker 3: I learned that he also since he's kind of a
Speaker 3: folk singer, he sings within a realm that like a
Speaker 3: like scales and like modes that kids understand. So it's
Speaker 3: not like anything that's too complicated, and since he sings
Speaker 3: a lot of nursery rhymes and things are kind of simple,
Speaker 3: he's like the exact tone, the exact like he's in
Speaker 3: the perfect musical space for kids to enjoy. It's like
Speaker 3: the melodies are simple, they're pretty happy, they have a
Speaker 3: good beat, and also he really has a gentle voice.
Speaker 3: I'll try to play new stuff, Like I was really
Speaker 3: a snob about this. I seriously was like only eno
Speaker 3: for my daughter, like maybe some jazz, maybe jazz, like
Speaker 3: just a straight up music snob. I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe you know, maybe I'll play a metal
Speaker 3: machine music or something, just being like a real music
Speaker 3: kind of an asshole about it. And she doesn't want
Speaker 3: to fucking listen to and you know, like maybe like
Speaker 3: some of the spacey ambient stuff, but no interest, and
Speaker 3: it like really playing Raffi for her. She was just
Speaker 3: like she'd perk up or she was crying, she'd like
Speaker 3: stop crying, like in the car, if she's crying and
Speaker 3: I play Banana Phone or Baby Beluga or something like that,
Speaker 3: she'll just like completely stop and just kind of like listen.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I know, I don't know if there's
Speaker 3: just something really magical about him, and you could kind
Speaker 3: of hear it when you listen to his voice. There's
Speaker 3: like a sweetness, there's like a there's a real person
Speaker 3: in there. One thing that I learned that I was
Speaker 3: like this is this is recorded really well. Like I
Speaker 3: was like because I was listening to like just as music,
Speaker 3: and I was like, the music is good. There's like
Speaker 3: solid folk musicianship going on. There's even like good solos
Speaker 3: and stuff. But the way it's recorded, they'll be just
Speaker 3: like a pan op of like a kazoo over here
Speaker 3: and a slide whistlier at the perfect time. And it
Speaker 3: turns out it was. His first four albums were produced
Speaker 3: by young Daniel Lennoi who knows yeah, Daniel Lenwell, who
Speaker 3: produced YouTube's Joshua Tree and Bob Dylan's Time out of Mind.
Speaker 3: You know Neil young Emilio Harris, like he is the
Speaker 3: greatest probably producer of the eighties, right. He was like
Speaker 3: a kid who was recording in his mom's basement outside
Speaker 3: of Toronto for ten dollars an hour and Raffi and
Speaker 3: his friend who is like this guy, this sweet Canadian
Speaker 3: like justa like this guy Ken Whiteley is like just
Speaker 3: a sweet Canadian man any instrument, and this sounds like
Speaker 3: a real bro Like he's just fucking rinse in it. Dude.
Speaker 3: You give Ken a washboard and he's like And so
Speaker 3: RAFFI got this really good guy in Ken Whiteley, who's
Speaker 3: an amazing musician, and the Lenois Brothers who were like
Speaker 3: recording in a basement with like you know, the egg
Speaker 3: crates and all that stuff. And if you listen to
Speaker 3: those first four albums, you're like, this is recorded so well,
Speaker 3: like it's really crazy. And then when I found that out,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not insane, Like I'm not like because
Speaker 3: a lot of it. I was like, there's red ribbon
Speaker 3: that I'm just attaching everywhere and I'm like, Raffy this
Speaker 3: and this, and I'm like, oh, no, wonder it sounds good.
Speaker 3: This like genius produced it and it sounds amazing.
Speaker 2: I thought that guy was from New Orleans, Daniel Lennoi.
Speaker 2: I don't maybe it's just because his name has a
Speaker 2: frenchness to it. I just assumed, yeah, that sounds like it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a Canadian kid that just was part of
Speaker 3: the folks scene in Toronto that randomly knew Raffi's friend
Speaker 3: it was a friend of a friend of Raffi's and
Speaker 3: he's like, sure, I'll record it, and they just were
Speaker 3: grown men being like okay, let's take it again, Ken
Speaker 3: and he's like okay, just like playing the fucking kazoo
Speaker 3: in their twenties, but like killing it. And then Raffi
Speaker 3: also had like he had a girlfriend at the time
Speaker 3: that became his wife who was like a kindergarten teacher,
Speaker 3: and they had friends that are kindergarten teachers, and so
Speaker 3: they all kind of informed like him on like this
Speaker 3: is what kids like, this is like, this is all
Speaker 3: this stuff. And so Raffi was just very thoughtful about
Speaker 3: making music for kids, and so he decided like kids
Speaker 3: should be able to listen to good music, and it
Speaker 3: should be music that parents don't want to kill themselves about, yeah,
Speaker 3: because you know, most kids' music is just really irritating,
Speaker 3: and so he just like let that be his guide
Speaker 3: and be like, I want to make nice music for
Speaker 3: kids and their parents. And that's like what he did.
Speaker 3: And I think that's why we're probably making the podcast
Speaker 3: is because he did such a good job of it
Speaker 3: that like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like a monster of rock, but a
Speaker 2: children's music. Yeah, so he truly was like out on
Speaker 2: his own pre wiggles. Like I think there's probably a
Speaker 2: whole generation of people listening to this who were just like,
Speaker 2: I don't know who Raffi is, but like Raffi was
Speaker 2: kind of like and he wasn't no one's ever. I've
Speaker 2: never heard anyone be mean about Raffi, but he was
Speaker 2: kind of a reference joke because he was so famous
Speaker 2: as a children's music a children's musician.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I told like the Simpsons based a character after
Speaker 3: him named Rufi, you know, like he but he was
Speaker 3: like part of I guess the cultural zeitgeist is probably
Speaker 3: because of Baby Beluga. It was like such a big hit.
Speaker 3: But like he he was just like no, no, like
Speaker 3: my we I called up my father in law just
Speaker 3: to see if he had like the tape that Vow
Speaker 3: listened to when she was a kid, and he just
Speaker 3: like and he's like a dry Midwestern like Iowan guy,
Speaker 3: and he just starts like will would be Wallaby. He
Speaker 3: just like starts singing the songs all goofy and he
Speaker 3: probably hasn't thought of Raffi in thirty years or something,
Speaker 3: and he just like went right into it. It's really crazy,
Speaker 3: how it's really really his music has really gotten ingrained
Speaker 3: in people, and it's been I was completely new to
Speaker 3: him because I grew up listening to mostly like you know,
Speaker 3: grew up speaking Spanish and then maybe watching Sesame Street
Speaker 3: or just listening to what my parents listened to, which
Speaker 3: is glorious. Define. Yeah, I did not have I did
Speaker 3: not know about Rafi at all. So it was really
Speaker 3: cool to go like all in and now like have
Speaker 3: like a really insane psycho knowledge of RAVI.
Speaker 4: Have you finished that series or is there going to
Speaker 4: be another season or it's it's.
Speaker 3: Going to just be one season. The fourth one came
Speaker 3: out yesterday, okay, and there's a total of ten episodes
Speaker 3: and all the guests.
Speaker 4: Have been booked because I'm just not that I'm trying
Speaker 4: to book your podcast. But there's so many bands, like
Speaker 4: they might be Giants or what was the punk band
Speaker 4: that became Yo Gaba Gabba? Oh I forgot the Aqua
Speaker 4: Bats Yeah, oh yeah them, Oh yeah, yeah, they're crazy
Speaker 4: a band that I've seen in Missoula when I and
Speaker 4: it was like, you know, we're slamming into each other
Speaker 4: and they were spitting and then all of a sudden
Speaker 4: you're seeing there's just a couple of recognizable guys on
Speaker 4: that kid's show. But I love the people that transition,
Speaker 4: uh you know, from mainstream even like pump punk rock,
Speaker 4: into making music for kids.
Speaker 2: I like when they do it when they have kids.
Speaker 2: It's like them going, Okay, I was about that, and
Speaker 2: that's fine, but I'm here's my evolution. So now I
Speaker 2: want my kids to like music, and I can do it,
Speaker 2: so why wouldn't I do it too? Like that to
Speaker 2: me is such a lovely kind of like instead of
Speaker 2: fighting it or like I go got to go back
Speaker 2: out on the road and party with my buddies or whatever,
Speaker 2: it's like, now I'm going to do the thing that
Speaker 2: my kid will like, so that it's all you know,
Speaker 2: it's all comprehensive kind of thing. And then I think
Speaker 2: when you enter that any kind of thing like that
Speaker 2: with a respectful intention, not to be super Saint Christopher's
Speaker 2: meddle about it, but I think the little kids can
Speaker 2: sense that and feel it where it's like there were
Speaker 2: coming at you with a song we made for you.
Speaker 2: It's not like cynical, you know, Disney, where like weird
Speaker 2: little children voices are singing it or whatever.
Speaker 3: I think you're right. Kids they are super intelligent, Like
Speaker 3: right from the moment they're born, they're just like super smart.
Speaker 3: And so I think they have a good sense of
Speaker 3: what's bullshit and what's good. And so Raffi comes from
Speaker 3: being a legit folks singer in the mid seventies in
Speaker 3: the early seventies, and he loved Pete Seeger and what
Speaker 3: he Guthrie and just kind of wanted to do that
Speaker 3: for kids. And you can hear it. You're like, oh,
Speaker 3: and then you listen to his guitar and you're like,
Speaker 3: that was nice fingerpicking, Like he's like not just like
Speaker 3: being like not to take anything away from Elmo or
Speaker 3: anything like that, but like it's just it's not and
Speaker 3: sometimes he's silly and all that stuff, but it really
Speaker 3: comes from a place of genuine respect and you can
Speaker 3: hear it. But I should try to reach out to
Speaker 3: Yogaba Gabba and some other people that have done that
Speaker 3: just to talk about themselves and then maybe Raffi and
Speaker 3: stuff like that, because it is cool when people pivot
Speaker 3: like that. Even in my own career, Like I think
Speaker 3: about Sonny and stuff like that, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I want to do stuff that she's proud of. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I watched this documentary about Nickelodeon. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you've seen it. It's on Hulu. It's about Nickelodeon
Speaker 3: in the nineties.
Speaker 4: I forgot to start watching that.
Speaker 3: It's really it's really nice, and I was like, it
Speaker 3: would be so cool before I'd be like kids Stevie
Speaker 3: Disney Channel or something. Though, it'd be so cool to
Speaker 3: work on a show that Sonny loved or like all
Speaker 3: their friends loved and stuff like that. That was just like,
Speaker 3: you know, because really funny and talent people work on those,
Speaker 3: Like Oh, I would be so cool to write on
Speaker 3: the salute your shorts. You can't do that on television
Speaker 3: her generation and not just do whatever comedy, do something
Speaker 3: cool for kids. Yeah, totally, I am with you.
Speaker 4: I've always wanted to have a kid's show, whether it's
Speaker 4: teaching art or just letting them tell stories. There's there's
Speaker 4: this Instagram account that I'm addicted to. It's my favorite
Speaker 4: thing where this guy's just in New York. It's usually
Speaker 4: in like Central Park, and he just kids open up
Speaker 4: to him and they're so funny and he's so good
Speaker 4: at Yes, ding bizarre things that they say that, and
Speaker 4: they have so much fun talking to him. And yeah,
Speaker 4: like we were saying, I can't put my finger on
Speaker 4: why all these kids like this guy. He's young, he's
Speaker 4: like in his twenties, but he's so good with kids.
Speaker 4: And it's I should remember the name of it, you
Speaker 4: know what, I'm going to look it up because look
Speaker 4: it up. Yeah, and you guys just talk amongst yourself.
Speaker 3: I did job ever in comedy was when I I
Speaker 3: was going to Berkeley at the time, and I took
Speaker 3: my first improv class and you know, at the end
Speaker 3: of it, it was like through the community theater in Albany,
Speaker 3: just north of Berkeley, and it was like mostly adults
Speaker 3: taking improv at a community center and we did the
Speaker 3: like the graduation show, and there was this woman who
Speaker 3: was the head of the Science Discovery Theater, which was
Speaker 3: like the Science theater at Lawrence Alloscience, which is like
Speaker 3: Berkeley's science museum. Yeah, and she was like, do you
Speaker 3: want a job doing improv for kids and like writing
Speaker 3: plays and stuff? And I was like absolutely yeah. And
Speaker 3: so I didn't tell her that I hadn't graduated college
Speaker 3: because I was like, fuck college, I'm gonna go. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go make big bucks doing children's improv. And so
Speaker 3: my first job ever was doing I went back to
Speaker 3: college and stuff, but like I did about the human
Speaker 3: brain and anatomy, and we like traveled to schools and
Speaker 3: it was like K through eight and stuff. And then
Speaker 3: I also like wrote and acted and plays like Ocean
Speaker 3: Powers Marine Men of Mystery, which is based on Austin Powers,
Speaker 3: and then it was about overfishing and plankton, and then
Speaker 3: Trash Bridges Garbage Detective, which was based on Nash Bridges.
Speaker 3: This was the late early two thousands and that one
Speaker 3: came out and I came out in like a detective
Speaker 3: outfit and I had a recycled like A had a
Speaker 3: snake that was my friend that was made out of
Speaker 3: recycled paper. And I'd come out with comforty bogrin and
Speaker 3: be like Shamfreys a big city with a big problem garbage,
Speaker 3: and then my kidd be like and it was really
Speaker 3: a silly job, and uh, but it was so fun
Speaker 3: and so sweet to get kids to like trick them
Speaker 3: into loving science and thinking about recycling and stuff. And
Speaker 3: eventually was like, oh you gotta do stand I gotta
Speaker 3: drop this and do stand up. But like it was
Speaker 3: really cool, Like it was very satisfying to do silly
Speaker 3: you know, silly comedy performances for kids.
Speaker 2: Well, and you I don't. I think they're the just
Speaker 2: like you're saying, they're super intelligent and they know they
Speaker 2: have great bullshit meters. So that's a tough crowd. You Like,
Speaker 2: they're not just going to go with whatever, and if
Speaker 2: they feel uncomfortable, they can't go with you. So you
Speaker 2: basically taught yourself like crowd work to the nth degree
Speaker 2: by doing it with kids like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because it's really hard. It's like a whole auditorium.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it could be a whole school, so it was
Speaker 3: like it could be like two hundred and fifty kids
Speaker 3: or something. And then I'd ask some sort of open
Speaker 3: ended question, like I was teaching them about the brains,
Speaker 3: which is the part of your brain that reminds you
Speaker 3: to breathe and have your heartbeat so you don't have
Speaker 3: to think about it, and so I asked him. I
Speaker 3: was like, what's something you have to do every second
Speaker 3: of every day to stay alive? And this kid just
Speaker 3: stood up on his chair and was like pray to Jesus. Okay,
Speaker 3: I shouldn't open that. I should ask more specific maybe
Speaker 3: yes or no questions. I think that would be easier.
Speaker 3: But yeah, and then those kids, I mean, they're they're
Speaker 3: kind of wild. So if you watch like a RAFFI
Speaker 3: to bring it back to RAFFI, if you watch a
Speaker 3: video of his, he'll be at like Radio City Music
Speaker 3: Hall and there'd be all sorts of kids and you
Speaker 3: could hear a pin drop like it's wild. I don't
Speaker 3: know how he does it.
Speaker 4: It's incredible, the idea of performing for kids, especially as
Speaker 4: a comic who's mostly told dick jokes. I'm not and
Speaker 4: I am talking about myself. There's a festival in Calgary
Speaker 4: where the guy I don't do it any more, but
Speaker 4: they he would. There was a lot of midday shows
Speaker 4: like he was willing to. One of the shows was
Speaker 4: in a literally a moving trolley and you tell jokes
Speaker 4: to people walking on this promenade. But one of them
Speaker 4: was a kids party in an old spaghetti factory and
Speaker 4: I no one wanted to do it, and I didn't.
Speaker 4: I don't think I wanted to do it either, but
Speaker 4: it ended up being one of the funniest shows I've
Speaker 4: ever done. In the end, I just it just it
Speaker 4: turned into me, like, who wants me to eat this?
Speaker 4: In there it was a plate, Put whatever you want
Speaker 4: on this plate, and they put salad and mustard and
Speaker 4: and like pizza crust on it, and I would eat it.
Speaker 4: And they were all cheering, but I've never they were,
Speaker 4: so I had their attention. And also I realized I
Speaker 4: have a bunch of jokes that are for kids, like
Speaker 4: any pun type joke that has always you know, made
Speaker 4: other comics roll their eyes, especially when I first started.
Speaker 4: These kids loved it, and I've always loved the idea
Speaker 4: I want to do, even if it's adults stand up.
Speaker 4: I want to do a show for a theater filled
Speaker 4: with just kids, maybe their parents too, so it's not
Speaker 4: kind of weird or illegal or whatever. But I think, yeah,
Speaker 4: I think depending on what you do, they they can
Speaker 4: be even more captive. Uh not captive captivated, thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I want to keep them in a
Speaker 4: pen during an INTERMA.
Speaker 2: How you're telling us the plan of you kidnapping to
Speaker 2: hear me out hear.
Speaker 4: Me out there in their own cages, and I'm giving
Speaker 4: them hope through comedy that when they all let them out.
Speaker 2: Where do you have space like this?
Speaker 4: It's it's a it's a it's a warehouse downtown.
Speaker 2: I have the keys, but justic old nightmare. Yeah, this crime.
Speaker 4: Now we bust them down there. I just check make
Speaker 4: sure they have a permission. Slip. It's going to work.
Speaker 4: It's gonna work. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 2: My sister is a is a grammar school teacher for
Speaker 2: she has been for like the over thirty years. She's
Speaker 2: really good at it. She's really good at it. But
Speaker 2: one time I went to her classroom to go, like
Speaker 2: because I was driving up from La so I just
Speaker 2: went straight to her school or whatever. And I walked
Speaker 2: in and they were like. My sister goes, Okay, look
Speaker 2: at that. Who do you think this is? And three
Speaker 2: of the kids go and they were like first graders,
Speaker 2: They go, Madna, why no what? It was just like
Speaker 2: I was exotic because I came into the room as
Speaker 2: a surprise or something. It was just hilarious. But I know,
Speaker 2: I love, I love, Like We've talked about this, but
Speaker 2: my favorite is like little kids that get the attention
Speaker 2: that they want, you know, like get when adults are
Speaker 2: smart enough to know that if you can have a
Speaker 2: great conversation with a kid, if you just like the
Speaker 2: most irritating thing to me off like current parenting habits
Speaker 2: is when you're trying to talk to someone's kid and
Speaker 2: they interrupt an answer for the kid, like you're they're
Speaker 2: the fucking publicist, or I'm like, I'm not talking to you.
Speaker 2: I don't give a shit, Like I don't want to
Speaker 2: hear your version of when you guys went to Disneyland.
Speaker 2: I want to hear their version of it, like what
Speaker 2: are you doing?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 2: Why would you answer for your And then they get
Speaker 2: all like, you know, detached and like screeny and.
Speaker 4: What yeah, yeah, the same thing. But it's usually and
Speaker 4: I'm not kidding, it sounds like a I do even
Speaker 4: on an airplane, if a kid's playing peekaboo or whatever,
Speaker 4: I will engage with that kid and and the parents
Speaker 4: always like who are you even looking at? Stop looking
Speaker 4: at him? Kayleb or whatever. It's like, fuck you, I'm
Speaker 4: not I'm no interest in playing peekaboo with you, sir.
Speaker 2: You're my age, I think between and if you want
Speaker 2: to do that, then you can't have that mustache.
Speaker 4: Yeah, isn't it weird. It's like it's I think, yeah,
Speaker 4: you're probably right.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm also usually wearing clown makeup.
Speaker 2: I just mustache.
Speaker 3: That's a no no conover.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that white on the hair, Yeah, I just know
Speaker 4: I put it on. So adults don't talk to me
Speaker 4: on airplanes. But but I'll talk to the kids any
Speaker 4: any day.
Speaker 2: Well, that's awesome. That podcast truly sounds great. It's such
Speaker 2: a great idea.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of fun. It's just been it's a
Speaker 3: really and it's really like whole it just feels like
Speaker 3: a nice time to talk to them about nice things
Speaker 3: and just kind of remember that we should all be
Speaker 3: respectful for each other. That's like at the core of it.
Speaker 3: And it's just it just for me, it's felt nice
Speaker 3: on a personal level just to kind of think about
Speaker 3: these things and.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's it's high time. It's it's really it's
Speaker 2: high time.
Speaker 4: And I and that is how these these Instagram these
Speaker 4: interviews with this guy. I can't this is obviously why
Speaker 4: people hashtag videos. I follow this guy. I can't think
Speaker 4: of his name or his accounts handled right now, so
Speaker 4: I can't find the videos. And I've tried to look
Speaker 4: up kids interview and then there's a lot of great
Speaker 4: kids interview bands. I want to I already subscribe to that,
Speaker 4: but I.
Speaker 2: Can't find it. Chris, is it recess therapy?
Speaker 4: It is recess therapy? Why you knew this whole time?
Speaker 4: No therapy.
Speaker 2: That's that's our great producer, Casey O'Brien in the chat
Speaker 2: helping you out. We were just I just noticed that
Speaker 2: there was a chat message and I figured there. He
Speaker 2: must have looked it up.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is, Thank you, Casey. That's good detective work.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you did it. Yes, recess therapy
Speaker 4: follow it. It made it makes me feel great. And uh,
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes there will be a kid that's a
Speaker 4: little unhinged, and I, you know, you get a little nervous,
Speaker 4: but it's in a kind of you just worry about
Speaker 4: his future, is all. But but yeah, he's it's it
Speaker 4: would be such a fun gig. And I didn't know
Speaker 4: that I wanted to do that, but I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: steal his idea.
Speaker 2: You're you'd be good at it. I think you'd be
Speaker 2: very good at it.
Speaker 4: I've gotten messages from people that have said, have you
Speaker 4: thought about doing this. I don't know what it is
Speaker 4: about me, but you're right. I just got a shave
Speaker 4: and get out there wasting what I have. My talent's
Speaker 4: on an airplane. It's true to go tell jokes to
Speaker 4: drunk adults. I'm tired of it. Sober children. That's the
Speaker 4: future comedy.
Speaker 2: Chris CHURSSI, do you have any other plugs or any
Speaker 2: stuff you need to talk about? You know, while you're
Speaker 2: my lord?
Speaker 4: The time flew by?
Speaker 2: I know best I went.
Speaker 3: I can't believe it's been an hour. No, you know,
Speaker 3: just finding RAFFI, I think that would be great. I
Speaker 3: have some dates coming up on the road that I'm
Speaker 3: pretty excited about's probably find out about him on my Instagram,
Speaker 3: which is rad Tuna.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's its handle. It is right, it really is. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And do listen to his previous series called Scattered, which
Speaker 4: I haven't yet, but I'm telling myself, this is me
Speaker 4: talking to myself.
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like and you know, I was on it,
Speaker 2: so I don't feel like I have to feel bad
Speaker 2: about this. But it's very difficult for people who have
Speaker 2: I think you have to be at a very certain
Speaker 2: point in your Alzheimer's, in your family journey to listen
Speaker 2: to other people talk about theirs because it's really hard.
Speaker 2: And when I was on Chris's show, we were crying
Speaker 2: within like five minutes. It felt like it was one
Speaker 2: of those things where it's like you can talk about
Speaker 2: it to a point, but it really is. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's I believe that podcast won awards, didn't it, Chris.
Speaker 3: It was like when it came out, it was a
Speaker 3: popular when like Time magazine called it like one of
Speaker 3: the best podcasts of the year, and a bunch of
Speaker 3: people like that. I got a lot of thank you.
Speaker 3: But it is if you're in a space like a
Speaker 3: I mean, it's very heartfelt, sweet and there's really funny moments.
Speaker 3: But like I think there was who's the old guy
Speaker 3: who played Hannibal Lecter Anthony Hopkins. Anthony Hopkins had a
Speaker 3: Dimension movie recently and I was like, I'm sure it's great.
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't watch it yet, you know, like
Speaker 3: I'm not ready for it. Some things I can, but
Speaker 3: with that, I'm like, I don't need to. It's been
Speaker 3: five years now, and I'm like, I don't know it.
Speaker 2: I'll ever do.
Speaker 4: I know for real, you never know when something's gonna
Speaker 4: get you like whatever. Planet of the Apes movie where
Speaker 4: James Franco's dad is played by John Lithgow, and that's
Speaker 4: what he's researching and trying to come up with that
Speaker 4: makes all those primates go crazy is Alzheimer's treatment. And
Speaker 4: I was crying. I was the only one in the
Speaker 4: theater crying. Yes, I went to a theater to watch
Speaker 4: Plenty of the Apes, Kelly, but John, they nailed that
Speaker 4: part of it and it was very realistic, and I, yeah,
Speaker 4: I was just sobbing openly. You never know when you're
Speaker 4: gonna cry.
Speaker 2: I was tricked into going to see The Notebook in
Speaker 2: the theater and I did not know what it was about.
Speaker 2: I just thought it was like a rom com and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I love Ryan Gosling. This will be great.
Speaker 2: And by the end of the fucking movie, because it
Speaker 2: actually kind of like the way it's set up, you
Speaker 2: don't I didn't see it coming. I was kind of
Speaker 2: distracted whatever, And when I finally understood what the fuck
Speaker 2: was happening, I couldn't stop crying. And when like truly
Speaker 2: the lights came up in the theater and I was
Speaker 2: just sitting with my X, like sitting there sobbing into
Speaker 2: my hands, and I was so embarrassed because it was
Speaker 2: also I was in it. It was my mom was
Speaker 2: still alive, so it was like really bad. It was
Speaker 2: very bad. Yeah. But then when I finally got myself
Speaker 2: together just to get up and leave, I looked behind me.
Speaker 2: It was at the arc light and there were like
Speaker 2: pockets of people doing the exact same thing. So then
Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, this happens to so many people,
Speaker 2: and like this is so fucking awful. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: think I'm so mad at the marketing of that movie
Speaker 2: because it was just like, yeah, there's a little there's
Speaker 2: a easter egg in here that you're not gonna see coming,
Speaker 2: and if you're at a bad spot, yeah, like it's
Speaker 2: going to knock you on your ass.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Maybe the safe instruction to give everyone is like,
Speaker 4: if you have lost a parent or a loved one
Speaker 4: to dementia and it's been a while, please listen ye.
Speaker 3: Part of the lady.
Speaker 4: You're not in a theater. Yeah you can cry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes it feels I mean sometimes it's good for
Speaker 2: you to do it. It's like good for you to
Speaker 2: process because it's so it's so hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta let it out. Well, it feels good.
Speaker 4: I'm glad all three of us went through that and
Speaker 4: we just talked about it with none of us crying.
Speaker 4: Isn't that what we did?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: We did us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at us now.
Speaker 4: I mean we went a whole hour without me crying.
Speaker 4: And I'm not talking about podcasting for just talking.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, whether I'm cooking or riding a bike, can't make
Speaker 4: it an hour. Well, thanks, this felt like a real
Speaker 4: life hangout.
Speaker 3: I felt so nice. Thank you for letting me come
Speaker 3: on here and talk about the podcast and just speak
Speaker 3: with you. It's always so nice and it's so nice to.
Speaker 2: See great to see you too. Thank you so much
Speaker 2: for doing it. And we got to see your baby
Speaker 2: real quick through the room.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just bid with big belong dangly earrings. I really
Speaker 4: think for today She's like, I'm going to deal with
Speaker 4: he's recording and I could smell the direct card from
Speaker 4: here field.
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