Speaker 1: Wednesday, August seventh, and Team USA still on top. US
Speaker 1: athletes have now won a total of eighty six Olympic medals.
Speaker 1: China has fifty nine medals, and France remains in third
Speaker 1: place with forty eight medals. And France actually didn't pick
Speaker 1: up a medal at all during competition yesterday.
Speaker 2: Woan wow when well, welcome to this tea from Perry
Speaker 2: edition of Amy and TJ. Everybody. Team USA also now
Speaker 2: leads in the gold medal count, and two of those
Speaker 2: came in dramatic and spectacular fashion yesterday. That's right.
Speaker 1: The first was in the fifteen hundred final where American
Speaker 1: Cole Hawker pulled off a stunning upset, and then in
Speaker 1: the women's two hundred meter final where American Gabby Thomas dominated.
Speaker 1: But after her win, did anyone notice how the commentators
Speaker 1: spoke about her?
Speaker 2: Also in this episode, the women's floor final that had
Speaker 2: all that scoring drama, remember well that drama ain't over yet.
Speaker 2: Could Jordan Childs actually have her bronze medal taken away?
Speaker 2: After Romania Lodge is a protest to once again review scores.
Speaker 2: This as Romania's Prime Minister says he's going to now
Speaker 2: boycott the closing ceremony.
Speaker 1: And the US women's soccer team continues to be the
Speaker 1: most fun and anxiety inducing team to watch. Plus gold
Speaker 1: medals for two athletes yesterday whose names you probably do
Speaker 1: not know, but they might be the two most dominant
Speaker 1: athletes at the Olympics. And what exactly is the steeple chase?
Speaker 1: Why is it in the Olympics? And why is there
Speaker 1: a puddle of water right in the middle of the track.
Speaker 2: It's a fun one to watch, but it is a
Speaker 2: little weird, even people that run and have fun about
Speaker 2: calling it weird. We just thought we'd give you a
Speaker 2: little steeplechase history here in just a bit. We'll get
Speaker 2: into that in a second. But every morning here, as
Speaker 2: per usual, we are watching live events and you make
Speaker 2: fun of me because you usually come out and I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what I've been crying about in the morning,
Speaker 2: and what did we just see? And what did you
Speaker 2: just say? Right the final? And you we will.
Speaker 1: We've been watching speed climbing, and really all of the climbing,
Speaker 1: but the speed climbing is so much fun. It's over
Speaker 1: with in less than six seconds usually, and it's just
Speaker 1: a fun nail biting on the edge of your seat event.
Speaker 1: And so we just saw the women's finals and we
Speaker 1: won't say who won, but it was a very sweet
Speaker 1: moment when she won gold and came out and I
Speaker 1: guess it was her boyfriend or her husband. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but just to see the love and his excitement for
Speaker 1: her and her excitement at winning, it was just it
Speaker 1: was those are the beautiful moments, and you find yourself
Speaker 1: getting swept up in the emotion of it and tears
Speaker 1: falling down your face for an athlete who wasn't even
Speaker 1: one of your country men or women.
Speaker 2: Why do girls do that? I'm looking at you right now, folks.
Speaker 2: You all can't see robes, but just you talking about
Speaker 2: her and her boyfriend. You just you did your shoulders up,
Speaker 2: did you talk to her boyfriend?
Speaker 1: You did a little You're right, you know, that's what
Speaker 1: it is. And I love seeing these athletes getting because
Speaker 1: they couldn't do what they do probably if they didn't
Speaker 1: have the support of the people around them. So it's
Speaker 1: just fun. You know, we haven't seen fans, We haven't
Speaker 1: seen boyfriends and girlfriends and moms and dads being able
Speaker 1: to be there and supporting their athletes. So it's just
Speaker 1: been so that's what's been missing in the last couple
Speaker 1: of Olympics, and so to see it all now on display,
Speaker 1: it just it's extra beautiful.
Speaker 2: You're right. It is added to the enjoyment of watching
Speaker 2: these Olympics, certainly versus the last one. I think the
Speaker 2: numbers have proven that as well as far as the ratings.
Speaker 2: But the other thing we watched yesterday, and I don't
Speaker 2: know why we've been missing. We should have prioritized this more,
Speaker 2: the synchronized swimming or artistic swimming, sorry, artistic swimming, but
Speaker 2: we caught a little bit of it yesterday and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 2: I've been missing this.
Speaker 1: It's remarkable. It's basically taking all of the talent of
Speaker 1: Olympic swimmers and all of the talent of Olympic gymnasts
Speaker 1: and putting them together. I mean, I think it's remarkable
Speaker 1: what they're able to do, how they're able to be
Speaker 1: upside down in the water and mimicking exactly what their
Speaker 1: teammates are doing. I am blown away and spectacular all
Speaker 1: at the same time.
Speaker 2: I think I have missed I think the sport has
Speaker 2: changed a lot since I was watching it. Most because
Speaker 2: I cover some Olympics, and I've done some work with
Speaker 2: synchronized swimming teams and interviews, and I studied a little bit,
Speaker 2: but the how elaborate the routine is getting into the
Speaker 2: water is what I am like a little more.
Speaker 1: We were laughing because it's there's something odd about all
Speaker 1: of these people kind of looking exactly alike and then
Speaker 1: doing the exact same thing. It doesn't seem real, but
Speaker 1: remarkably it is. And this year men two men I
Speaker 1: think can be on each team, which is a new
Speaker 1: development from Olympics past. But it is definitely worth watching.
Speaker 2: But the last shout out here in the coverage, and
Speaker 2: maybe you all have noticed again, Robes, you've been to
Speaker 2: a lot of Olympics. I've just been to or just
Speaker 2: been to a couple. I don't remember. The athlete moment,
Speaker 2: the thing they have set up when the athlete performs
Speaker 2: and they can look and have like a FaceTime with
Speaker 2: their families somewhere else. That is a huge spin. Is
Speaker 2: that's a cute nugget.
Speaker 1: Yes, at this Olympics, when they're kind of coming in
Speaker 1: and out of competition, they can go to the family
Speaker 1: cam basically and the athletes either who are about to compete,
Speaker 1: or who have just competed, can go and FaceTime with
Speaker 1: multiple family members. Sometimes you'll see, you know, the high
Speaker 1: school gym filled with you know, all of the kids.
Speaker 1: They're rooting on their hometown athlete. But it's been really nice.
Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing that in the Olympics past.
Speaker 2: So cool.
Speaker 1: It would have been great. Actually, given COVID, that would
Speaker 1: have been perfect, but I don't remember that being a
Speaker 1: part of it.
Speaker 2: It is so cool to see that. It's just just
Speaker 2: as NonStop Alympic moments, no matter if they're American athletes
Speaker 2: or not. This has been really, really fun. But yesterday
Speaker 2: we got a lot happening on the track, a really
Speaker 2: big day on the track yesterday, and everybody kind of delivered.
Speaker 2: Maybe not a couple of athletes, but certainly the races
Speaker 2: we were watching they delivered the way they were supposed to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the men's fifteen hundred meter was being heralded
Speaker 1: as the must see race, and it did not disappointed.
Speaker 1: To your point, it was supposed to be epic. It
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a vicious race between the superstars
Speaker 1: of the fifteen hundred meters, the reigning Olympic Olympic champion
Speaker 1: from Norway and the current world champion from Great Britain.
Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, the little American with the
Speaker 1: man bun crashed their party. We're talking about Cole Hawker
Speaker 1: or Hoker as the it was trying me crazy. He
Speaker 1: was calling him hokah, like the shoe. I was like, no,
Speaker 1: it's Hawker. I know you're British, but you're going to
Speaker 1: have to lean into the fact that his name is
Speaker 1: Cole Hawker.
Speaker 2: It took away from our viewing experience because Rope was
Speaker 2: against so pissed that the guy kept calling them Cole Hoker.
Speaker 1: This is your moment, and the guy is mispronouncing his
Speaker 1: name pretty atrociously. And look, we've all mispronounced the name.
Speaker 1: But what I was frustrated by is his American counterparts
Speaker 1: were clearly then saying his name right, and he just
Speaker 1: continued to say hokah instead of Hawker.
Speaker 2: Okay, You'll see where I'm coming from and see what
Speaker 2: I'm dealing with. But Cole Hawker. He pulled off what
Speaker 2: is one of the biggest upsets of the Games, probably
Speaker 2: the biggest upset of track and field. He chased down
Speaker 2: the favorites in the final stretch and he wins the goal.
Speaker 2: This had been talked about a lot, and most of
Speaker 2: the talk had been about athletes other than Cole Hawker.
Speaker 2: The race feature too high profile and these are kind
Speaker 2: of some bad ass dudes. Even looking at him, the
Speaker 2: guy from the Great the brit I think, or is
Speaker 2: he hi? Or where is he from? But Josh Kurr
Speaker 2: is his name? Sure, he's great Britton. Okay, he's the
Speaker 2: current world champion. Now if you look at him, he
Speaker 2: just looks like a cool, tough dude. He just looks
Speaker 2: like kind of a badass.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Jacob Inga Britzton of Norway won gold in this event
Speaker 2: in Tokyo. So those two for the past couple of
Speaker 2: years been going back and forth on the track, and
Speaker 2: they've been going back and forth in media, kind of
Speaker 2: drawing any Yeah, The.
Speaker 1: Washington Post had a headline that said the Olympics spiciest
Speaker 1: rivals run fast, then run their mouths like I think
Speaker 1: it's pretty well determined that they genuinely do not like
Speaker 1: each other and aren't afraid to talk about it.
Speaker 2: Run fast, run their mouths, then got beat by an
Speaker 2: American is exactly what happened. So Jake Inger Britson of Norway.
Speaker 2: He was ahead the entire race for the most part.
Speaker 2: He just jumped out there and set the pace. But
Speaker 2: then he got run down by a couple of Americans,
Speaker 2: of course Cole Hawker among them. He didn't even place.
Speaker 2: He didn't even get amo got fourth place up and
Speaker 2: fourth and then the other dude first position.
Speaker 1: Ever, according to TJ it is probably for him, especially so.
Speaker 2: He's hid fourth and then the other guy ends up
Speaker 2: in second. But yeah, Cole Hawker with the little man
Speaker 2: bun back there, that was a huge, huge upset and
Speaker 2: to see him close and how he did it not
Speaker 2: three seconds off his own personal best, set a record
Speaker 2: in the making. Congrats to him, and this is an
Speaker 2: unexpected one.
Speaker 1: It was a fun one to watch. We were screaming
Speaker 1: and it was I loved it from start to finish. Also,
Speaker 1: right after that race, we got a treat. We got
Speaker 1: to see Gabby Thomas. Her race went a little differently,
Speaker 1: but the result was the same. She got gold. It
Speaker 1: just didn't have any drama, which actually I appreciate it,
Speaker 1: I think after the fifteen hundred meter but she came
Speaker 1: around the turn in the two hundred meter final and
Speaker 1: it just she glided away from her competitors. It didn't
Speaker 1: even look like she was working hard. You could see
Speaker 1: everyone behind her. It looked like they, I mean, they
Speaker 1: were running for their lives, and it looked like she
Speaker 1: was just enjoying a lovely stroll down the track. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just effortless. Obviously it's obviously not effortless, but
Speaker 1: she made it look like that, and she just dominated.
Speaker 2: And she again she was one who is expected. She
Speaker 2: has dominated the past couple of years in this race.
Speaker 2: She also won the bronze in Tokyo, so there were
Speaker 2: high expectations for her. And Julian Alfred is the one
Speaker 2: who won the fastest woman in the world won one
Speaker 2: hundred meter of course beach carry Richardson in that race.
Speaker 2: She ends up with a silver medal. Here she's from
Speaker 2: Saint Lucia. That means now Saint Lucia has in the
Speaker 2: country's history, won two Olympic medals. And where will those two?
Speaker 2: Whose house will they be at?
Speaker 1: Julian Alfred's house. Yes, won them both, and you know,
Speaker 1: I just love seeing her. She has such a warmth
Speaker 1: about her. Could she was and she was a distant second,
Speaker 1: which was kind of remarkable given her fastest woman in
Speaker 1: the world title, I know for that one hundred meter race,
Speaker 1: but just even watching Julian and watching Gabby interact was awesome.
Speaker 1: They're just everyone is there supporting each other, and that's
Speaker 1: what I love to see.
Speaker 2: And we wanted to hug Gabby Thomas. It was funny
Speaker 2: watching her. Right after we were like, where is somebody
Speaker 2: where she had family? Friends?
Speaker 1: Everybody went to their family, and I was like, why
Speaker 1: she was doing her victory laps as she should, but
Speaker 1: we were waiting to see who she would end up,
Speaker 1: and finally she did find her family. We felt better.
Speaker 2: But during that happy moment we were watching, we were smiling.
Speaker 2: She rang the bell. Of course, she got the flag
Speaker 2: around and she's reunited with a family. But we were
Speaker 2: listening to a discussion from the commentators, and it was
Speaker 2: a discussion that ended up being pretty shocking, frankly from
Speaker 2: our vantage point, and I'm sure a lot of people
Speaker 2: caught it, and I'm sure a lot of people didn't
Speaker 2: catch it, didn't think anything of it, but it delved
Speaker 2: into some highly offensive but all too familiar language used
Speaker 2: against African Americans. Now, we do not we're not trying
Speaker 2: to call out these commentators. We don't want to use
Speaker 2: their names. You want to go track them down, that's
Speaker 2: on you. But it's the point here is not to
Speaker 2: lodge a criticism. But I guess it's it's Robes. It
Speaker 2: was shocking to me and it was hurtful to me
Speaker 2: to hear it, and it sucked for Gabby Thomas. And
Speaker 2: it's also shocking. Sometimes we have people put their foot
Speaker 2: in the mouth. It's one person has one offhand comment
Speaker 2: in one moment. I was surprised to see three people
Speaker 2: kind of engage in the same conversation and nobody seemed
Speaker 2: to understand what they were saying. Now, I'll we have
Speaker 2: the exact because I don't want to put words in
Speaker 2: their mouths. So you got a playboy play guy, you
Speaker 2: got a female commentator, you got a male commentator in there,
Speaker 2: and robes you take you know, I put it in
Speaker 2: their verbatim. What sparked the conversation from the play by play.
Speaker 1: Guy, Well, they were talking about Gabby Thomas's win and
Speaker 1: what that will mean for the coverage of athletics in America.
Speaker 1: How big will she be and especially in connection to
Speaker 1: or in comparison to Shakrrie Richardson, who has obviously dominated
Speaker 1: all of the advertisements and much of America, and the
Speaker 1: advertisers pin their hopes on her becoming the fastest woman
Speaker 1: in the world. So she's been the one you see
Speaker 1: her face everywhere. Well, now that we have Gabby Thomas,
Speaker 1: who we should note is a beautiful woman. And in
Speaker 1: that sense, they were saying, how will these two women compare?
Speaker 1: How will American media? How will American businesses treat both
Speaker 1: of them? Now? Given all of.
Speaker 2: Things, okay, and this was important, I wanted to give
Speaker 2: folks you altho verbatim because I don't want you all
Speaker 2: to think we're putting words in their mouths. The play
Speaker 2: by play guy said, quote, what will this mean for
Speaker 2: coverage of athletics in America? How big will Gabby Thomas
Speaker 2: be now in connection and in relation to sha Carrie Richardson?
Speaker 2: In quote, that's the question. The female commentator comes back
Speaker 2: and responds and I quote, you know, Gabby Thomas is
Speaker 2: sort of that American dream. She goes to Harvard and
Speaker 2: she gets this wonderful degree. She's awesome on the track,
Speaker 2: but she's even better off the track. She wants to
Speaker 2: give back in quote now roads At that point my
Speaker 2: mood changed and I looked at you, and you looked
Speaker 2: at me back, like him, what's going on? And you
Speaker 2: started to pay a little closer.
Speaker 1: Attention, right you Actually you actually got up out of
Speaker 1: the couch and I was watching with Annili's we were
Speaker 1: both listening my daughter, and you got about the couch
Speaker 1: and you put your hand over your head and went ah,
Speaker 1: and you made a noise, and I said, what what's
Speaker 1: going on? And you just kind of pointed to the TV.
Speaker 1: So then we perked up and listened.
Speaker 2: It continued, so the next commentator in the room, and
Speaker 2: you could take this one herie, and again, folks, it's
Speaker 2: important because we don't want to be putting words in
Speaker 2: people's mouths. You in turke of them how you want to.
Speaker 2: But the may after the female commentator makes the comments
Speaker 2: about Yabby Thomas going to Harvard and she's the American dream.
Speaker 2: The male commentator follows up.
Speaker 1: He says, like Alison Felix, she's already kind of a
Speaker 1: glamorous figure in the States, and she is almost every
Speaker 1: time you talk about her story as a champion and
Speaker 1: how fast she is. It comes with all these other
Speaker 1: things that she is this Harvard grad that she went
Speaker 1: to med school, and she did these things in volunteering
Speaker 1: during the week after training, and so much of that
Speaker 1: story is this person in full. And I think that's
Speaker 1: a great thing to sell. It will sell, It will
Speaker 1: sell in every boardroom in America. And I think she
Speaker 1: becomes huge, and I think she's an example to every
Speaker 1: girl that this is what you can be as a whole,
Speaker 1: not just as an athlete.
Speaker 2: Follow up by the play by play guy and I
Speaker 2: quote a glowing character reference for Gabby Thomas, who is
Speaker 2: sure to be a big star. She does seem from
Speaker 2: a neutral's point of view, she seems articulate, She seems intell,
Speaker 2: she seems passionate about her sport. At this point, I
Speaker 2: got up and I walked out onto the balcony in
Speaker 2: ninety degree weather to cool down.
Speaker 1: That's right, and so I would not have noticed probably
Speaker 1: anything wrong or anything that seemed offensive until I heard
Speaker 1: the play by play guy say she seems articulate and
Speaker 1: that obviously I knew was a ding ding ding ding.
Speaker 1: But the crazy thing is you felt it, you heard it,
Speaker 1: you heard where they were going, you saw where they
Speaker 1: were headed. In their commentary and then when it was
Speaker 1: sealed with the articulate, seems intelligent, seems like that just
Speaker 1: all of a sudden AILSA and I went, oh my god,
Speaker 1: he did not just say that.
Speaker 2: So and folks, we read this exactly how it was
Speaker 2: said on television. Maybe you called it, maybe you didn't,
Speaker 2: but take note of it and take note of your
Speaker 2: reaction to it, because there will be some people out
Speaker 2: there at all you're making too much of it. Oh,
Speaker 2: they didn't mean that, or they're just well meaning. I
Speaker 2: don't know any of these people personally. I'm this non
Speaker 2: indictment of who they are, but it got me when
Speaker 2: they try to Initially, his first question in comparing Gabby
Speaker 2: Thomas to Sha Carrie Richardson, when you want to compare them,
Speaker 2: and then they start to elevate Gabby because she's this,
Speaker 2: she's this, she's this, she's this, she's this. And what
Speaker 2: I hear in that, and what we often hear in
Speaker 2: these things, is she's not this type of black. She's
Speaker 2: not this type of black that I think of. She's
Speaker 2: not this negative, she's not this dirty, she's not tattooed,
Speaker 2: she doesn't have the nails, she doesn't have the hair.
Speaker 1: She doesn't have the bravado, she didn't get caught with marijuana.
Speaker 2: She they're saying, this is a black person that White
Speaker 2: America can accept, and that's what we hear all the time,
Speaker 2: and this is this is constant. So the Shakiri comparison
Speaker 2: got in My ears perked up and I said, please
Speaker 2: don't do this, and then to button that up with
Speaker 2: the biggest moment this woman ever had. What you're saying
Speaker 2: is that this woman doesn't fit your negative stereotype of
Speaker 2: black folks because she is articulate. Because that's not what
Speaker 2: I usually think about black folks. So this stands out.
Speaker 2: So let me point it out. You don't ever white
Speaker 2: folks don't get described like that, and Robs. You and
Speaker 2: I have talked plenty here about me being in all
Speaker 2: those meetings at the network and how many times when
Speaker 2: somebody pitches a story and it's a black person who
Speaker 2: is the main business owner or whatever it is, and
Speaker 2: they have to follow up. Now he's articulate, Now he
Speaker 2: speaks well. I talked to him earlier and he's really
Speaker 2: well spoken. They're giving all of my white producers say
Speaker 2: it's okay, he's black, but it's okay it's okay, we
Speaker 2: can put him on TV. That Ugh, it drives me crazy.
Speaker 2: And I couldn't believe it was happening on a world
Speaker 2: stage with three people just openly kind of discussing it.
Speaker 2: It caught me by surprise yesterday.
Speaker 1: And you just put that so perfectly. And I think
Speaker 1: anytime anyone wants to say, well, they were just talking
Speaker 1: about how great she was, they were just you know,
Speaker 1: listing her accolades off the track. But the reality is,
Speaker 1: would they do that and would they compare to white
Speaker 1: male athletes like that? I talk about there, well, who's
Speaker 1: more marketable than the other? That in and of itself
Speaker 1: is offensive and I get it, and I didn't get
Speaker 1: it at first, and then I started to see your
Speaker 1: face and I started listening differently, and it sounded differently.
Speaker 1: And the truth is, I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: heard that and didn't think anything of it and thought
Speaker 1: that was just genuine praise for someone who deserves it.
Speaker 1: But there's so much more to it. And I think
Speaker 1: it's amazing that you can point that out and people
Speaker 1: can maybe hear it differently and think about how they're
Speaker 1: listening to things and how they're actually approaching certain subjects
Speaker 1: and rethink it and why am I thinking like this,
Speaker 1: and why would I think it's okay to say that?
Speaker 2: But on the biggest stage in the world, they perpetuated
Speaker 2: this idea that this this one's okay and this one
Speaker 2: is not, and that it drove me crazy. He goes
Speaker 2: back to the classic of a Biden example of talking
Speaker 2: about Obama. You got the first mainstream African American who
Speaker 2: is articulate and bright and clean. He said that about
Speaker 2: President Obama, and he later apologized, But it's it makes
Speaker 2: a suggestion that black folks are only marketable or acceptable
Speaker 2: to white America or mainstream America if they have some
Speaker 2: distance from the struggles of the black community. Harvard Right
Speaker 2: volunteers at a medical said all these things which are
Speaker 2: wonderful about her, but that's not the only thing that
Speaker 2: makes a black person marketable or we don't all have
Speaker 2: that experience, And its just it sucked.
Speaker 1: I just got chills listening to you say that. So
Speaker 1: I'm really glad that you did say it, and I
Speaker 1: hope that people you know, just it's something to think about,
Speaker 1: and I think that's an important and important thing to say.
Speaker 2: Can we get back to regular drama?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got a lot dramas. I mean, this is insane,
Speaker 1: the gymnastics scoring drama. So the judges, it looks like
Speaker 1: the judges got it wrong. I mean, I think that's
Speaker 1: indisputable at this point when it came to the floor exercise.
Speaker 1: But if you haven't read into this, this is so complicated.
Speaker 1: What happens now if the judges did get it wrong
Speaker 1: and the floor exercise that happened on Monday, well a
Speaker 1: lot is happening. The Romanian Prime minister says he is
Speaker 1: going to boycott the closing ceremonies, and athletes says she
Speaker 1: is quitting the sport altogether at the age of seventeen.
Speaker 1: There are letters of protests that have been sent, Requests
Speaker 1: for legal action are in play, and there is a
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of hate online that it's just it's it's sad. Look,
Speaker 1: most of you already know by now that Jordan Chiles
Speaker 1: scored initially a thirteen point six sixty six, falling to
Speaker 1: fifth place on the floor exercise behind Romanias, Anna Barbosu
Speaker 1: and Sabrina Vogna. They tied with a thirteen point seven.
Speaker 1: Team USA puts in an inquiry about Jordan's difficulty score.
Speaker 1: The judges decided to award her back that tenth of
Speaker 1: a point, and that gave Jordan Chiles a thirteen point
Speaker 1: seven to six. It gave her the bronze medal. Okay,
Speaker 1: following me so far, I just it's this is a
Speaker 1: crazy story. It was a heartbreaking moment for the Romanians.
Speaker 1: They haven't won a medal in gymnastic since twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: Anna had already had the Romanian flag draped around her.
Speaker 1: She was celebrating her bronze when the new score posted
Speaker 1: and she realized she had lost it. Okay, so fans
Speaker 1: go to social media, they're reacting, they're looking at the
Speaker 1: videos of their performances, and it was the fans who
Speaker 1: initially determined it was actually the other Romanian gymnast, Sabrina,
Speaker 1: who they believe now was actually wrong. Judges took away
Speaker 1: a tenth of a point from her routine for stepping
Speaker 1: out of bounds. But there are videos and pictures famous
Speaker 1: Romanian legend Nadia Komen each putting it out there that
Speaker 1: show she was not out of bounds, and in fact,
Speaker 1: in the primetime reairing of her routine, the NBC commentators
Speaker 1: reported that she did not step out of bounds. So
Speaker 1: now Sabrina's floor exercise could be reanalyzed by the International
Speaker 1: Gymnastics Federation. The head of the Romanian Olympic Committee sent
Speaker 1: a letter of protest. They want to rescore of her routine.
Speaker 1: If the Federation did that, they could then bring the
Speaker 1: review to the Court of Arbitration for Sports. This is
Speaker 1: just crazy, and if she was rescored, she could get
Speaker 1: that tenth of a point back, which would bring her
Speaker 1: score to thirteen point eight, which would put her back
Speaker 1: in third place the bronze medal. The medals were already awarded,
Speaker 1: and there is a precedent for this. There is just
Speaker 1: a way they operate here at the Olympics. There was
Speaker 1: a long standing view that the athletic results must be
Speaker 1: determined by the field of play decisions, not by court rulings.
Speaker 1: So most people believe that Jordan Childs, regardless of who
Speaker 1: reviews what or who rescores what, will keep her bronze
Speaker 1: medal and will stay in third place. But because of
Speaker 1: all of this, seventeen year old Sabrina says she's quitting gymnastics,
Speaker 1: and as you might imagine, Jordan Chiles is getting a
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of hate online, rising to the level where
Speaker 1: her own mother went on to Twitter and asked people
Speaker 1: to please stop, to please stop bullying her child.
Speaker 2: This Look, this is gone. I don't know how far
Speaker 2: it is going to go. We talk about whether or
Speaker 2: not Jordan could lose her brond. That's not going to happen.
Speaker 2: There is president impossible that scores could change later and
Speaker 2: somebody else could receive a bronze, but it's not. It's
Speaker 2: not going to be not going to take one off
Speaker 2: her neck and give it to somebody else. That's done,
Speaker 2: so we don't expect that sssarily, But it just keeps
Speaker 2: going and going and going. And to your point, I
Speaker 2: haven't looked at a lot of it, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't look at social media a lot these days. But
Speaker 2: the things that are going around, and look, Americans are
Speaker 2: very supportive of of Jordan Childs, obviously, but folks all
Speaker 2: over the world looking at I assume, right the Americans
Speaker 2: cheating in some way, getting away with something, or scoring
Speaker 2: somebody over. It's just it's always some kind of scoring
Speaker 2: controversy when you have subjective.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Jordan had nothing to do with the scoring. Controversy,
Speaker 1: so to put any sort of hate or anger towards
Speaker 1: her is completely misguided and completely inappropriate.
Speaker 2: And don't have it right. They have they can. They
Speaker 2: can only review. They can't review your execution, but they
Speaker 2: can review your what you're like a technical skill, they can.
Speaker 2: It's something about the real I'm still learning about inquiries,
Speaker 2: which are common apparently in yes, gymnastics, so nothing new,
Speaker 2: but we are all getting to update on rules these days. Anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just hope people can just save any of
Speaker 1: that hate, you know, and just don't hits end, don't publish,
Speaker 1: don't put out so much negativity. I just I feel
Speaker 1: for her because you know, it's sad for Romania. But
Speaker 1: Jordan Chiles should be able to celebrate her bronze medal regardless.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I know there was a lot of celebrating
Speaker 1: going on. US Women's soccer. Wow, we were jumping up
Speaker 1: and down. It took a while, but we finally won.
Speaker 1: It took all a long while.
Speaker 2: It took a full almost it did take full time,
Speaker 2: but then extra time. It went to overtime in this
Speaker 2: one and didn't took to the ninety fifth minute before
Speaker 2: the US women finally scored, so they ended up beating
Speaker 2: Germany yesterday one nil. They played Germany in the group stage,
Speaker 2: you might remember, and they won that one four to one.
Speaker 2: Germany is actually a higher ranked team in the world
Speaker 2: than the US. They ranked fourth, US is ranked fifth.
Speaker 2: Didn't look like it yesterday. I didn't look like it
Speaker 2: in the Olympics. But we that was our day. I
Speaker 2: had nine am. I had the women's platform diving I
Speaker 2: had to see. But after that it was noon. You
Speaker 2: all should see us. We are like idiots in here
Speaker 2: trying to plan everything. We had to call the daughters
Speaker 2: and where we're all going to be, and what's this
Speaker 2: gonna happen, where's the food? And we all to get
Speaker 2: on the couch by noon for the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was. It was a blast. They did
Speaker 1: not disappoint. And I know what we're going to be
Speaker 1: on Saturday at eleven am. We are going to be
Speaker 1: watching the US women face Brazil for the gold medal.
Speaker 1: This is so exciting. And you know what, we were
Speaker 1: ranked fifth and that sounds great, but you know, to
Speaker 1: be now going for gold, that's a huge accomplishment for
Speaker 1: a team that I don't think a lot of people
Speaker 1: necessarily thought would get to where they are having.
Speaker 2: Losts Emma hayes Era at the with the US women,
Speaker 2: the new coach. She is doing her thing and she's
Speaker 2: fun to watch her fun things on the sideline. So
Speaker 2: that's on Saturday. You know where we'll be. Did you
Speaker 2: get to see a meet Allure and Kwan Hong Zong
Speaker 2: both win gold medals? Yes today?
Speaker 1: Come again?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might be saying, ooh and no we didn't
Speaker 2: see them. Yes, Amid Allure and Kwan Hong Jan both
Speaker 2: got gold medals yesterday. They are not household names, but
Speaker 2: they just might be the two most dominant athletes at
Speaker 2: the Paris Games. I know, slow down, TJ. You know
Speaker 2: Simone was at these Games. I get it, but hear
Speaker 2: us out. Amid Allure won Golden women's wrestling. She's twenty
Speaker 2: years old. She's the youngest American man or woman to
Speaker 2: ever win Golden wrestling at the Olympics. But why call
Speaker 2: her one of the most dominant athletes in Paris robes
Speaker 2: because she has not lost a wrestling match in international
Speaker 2: competition since twenty.
Speaker 1: Nineteen, five years straight.
Speaker 2: I believe that's about forty two and oh or something
Speaker 2: like that. That she is now she is a phenom
Speaker 2: and dominant and in her matches in the Olympics, she's
Speaker 2: three and oho going into the final. She won all
Speaker 2: her matches, but the scorer threw out her matches. At
Speaker 2: the Olympics. She won twenty eight to two. That's the
Speaker 2: overall scoring twenty eight to two. Her opponent didn't score
Speaker 2: on her at all in the final. Her coach actually said,
Speaker 2: the surprise here at the Olympics is not that she won,
Speaker 2: but that anybody scored against her at all.
Speaker 1: Wow, she's that good.
Speaker 2: She is that good, an absolute phenom. But she has
Speaker 2: dominated to the point that they even say her opponents
Speaker 2: walk out looking intimidated, don't even know what to do
Speaker 2: with her.
Speaker 1: Well, congratulations to her. And I know this is a
Speaker 1: young woman who you have been heralding this entire Olympics.
Speaker 1: You will not miss when she competes.
Speaker 2: I love a Kwang Hoong Joan who's seventeen years old now.
Speaker 2: But Chinese diver, she's seventeen. She's seventeen and is a
Speaker 2: two time Olympic champion on platform. You're like, wait, how
Speaker 2: did that work? Yes, she won the first one at
Speaker 2: fourteen years old in Tokyo, fourteen years old. She was
Speaker 2: a darling of Tokyo that came out of nowhere for
Speaker 2: a lot of folks. But she was scoring perfect tens
Speaker 2: at the age of fourteen. Yesterday, the final, very first dive,
Speaker 2: perfect ten across the board. She's just there is no competition.
Speaker 2: She made a little on one of her dives and
Speaker 2: her teammate kind of got close, but she still won comfortably.
Speaker 2: But she and her teammate are so far ahead of
Speaker 2: anybody else. It was no question who's gonna get gold,
Speaker 2: no question who's gonna get.
Speaker 1: Soilb didn't they say that when she dives this is
Speaker 1: her right that it almost looks like quicksand, like the
Speaker 1: water is not splashing up, but it's actually being sucked down.
Speaker 1: She makes her dives that beautiful.
Speaker 2: There's some technique that they have perfected, and it's some
Speaker 2: name for that loosely translates into splash disappearance technique or
Speaker 2: something they were saying, but it does quicksand is the
Speaker 2: right way to put it. You go into the water,
Speaker 2: it looks like the water follows you down. She's that good.
Speaker 2: So I know I haven't missed her.
Speaker 1: Uh yes, And so we were talking about our track
Speaker 1: and field. You just kind of re educating ourselves into
Speaker 1: some of these events. They've been fun to watch, like
Speaker 1: the hammer throw. I mean, we've been having a blast.
Speaker 1: It's been really fun. But we especially enjoyed the steeple chase.
Speaker 1: I have never seen it before, so I was shocked,
Speaker 1: as many people might have been if they were watching
Speaker 1: to see water, like a why are they running through
Speaker 1: water on the track? It was I've never seen anything
Speaker 1: like it.
Speaker 2: See. And that's the crazy thing is it has been
Speaker 2: in the Olympics. It is the early nineteen hundreds. But
Speaker 2: my question, we were watching it yesterday and I'm like,
Speaker 2: why is this still an event? Like why is that there?
Speaker 2: I hadn't never looked up the history. So for folks,
Speaker 2: if you were watching a race, it's a three thousand
Speaker 2: meters steeplechase, and the athletes get on the track and
Speaker 2: they're jumping over obstacles. But they're not necessarily hurdles. They
Speaker 2: look like big police.
Speaker 1: Barriers, barriers, and they don't give. You know, hurdles will
Speaker 1: give if you if you hit it.
Speaker 2: These do not, Yes, and we have seen some I
Speaker 2: haven't seen in this dramatic falls but in the past.
Speaker 2: But then on one pass you jump over this obstacle,
Speaker 2: but there is a pit of water on the other
Speaker 2: side and you can't clear the water, so you're gonna
Speaker 2: end up in it getting wet. That's the actual event
Speaker 2: and you're thinking, why is this a thing? Well, the
Speaker 2: steeple chase goes back to Ireland, we understand.
Speaker 1: And it was an equestrian event, correct. It started out
Speaker 1: with horses, was what they believe, and then as it continued,
Speaker 1: they decided to have runners do it, and they wanted
Speaker 1: to emulate what those races were like where you were
Speaker 1: going over natural barriers and fences and sometimes you had
Speaker 1: to run through rivers and streams, and so to emulate
Speaker 1: all of that, that is how they put together this
Speaker 1: steeple chase route. And it is unusual and I would
Speaker 1: say very very entertaining. It's something to see.
Speaker 2: It's something to see, but it's entertaining. But it's a
Speaker 2: I mean, it gets a little ugly. I mean they
Speaker 2: have some nasty spills I've seen over the years trying
Speaker 2: to get over that water, and it's potential for disaster.
Speaker 2: But the steeple chase, the name even yes steeple when
Speaker 2: they were racing back in the early nineteen hundreds or
Speaker 2: whatever it was on the horses. What could you see
Speaker 2: from town to town? What was the easiest marker? It
Speaker 2: was the church steeple, So they were literally chasing and
Speaker 2: running and racing from steeple to steeple, hence the name.
Speaker 2: So that is your Olympics history too.
Speaker 1: Anytime that's on, I will watch it because I think
Speaker 1: it's pretty remarkable to see and where else could you
Speaker 1: see something like that? Nowhere except for the Olympics. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll tell you what we're watching today. Gosh, well, we've
Speaker 1: been watching sports climbing, which has been so fun. But
Speaker 1: we'll watch it anytime it's on, finals or heats, whatever
Speaker 1: it is. Will take it. Men's springboard diving Americans Carson
Speaker 1: Tyler and Andrew Capo Bianca competing for a spot in
Speaker 1: the men's finals. I be's already happened, but you'll be
Speaker 1: able to see a replay of it, and it's there's
Speaker 1: some good news there. US women's basketball quarterfinals, the US
Speaker 1: versus Nigeria that's at three thirty this afternoon, and the
Speaker 1: ladies of Team USA on their way to seeking an
Speaker 1: unprecedented eighth consecutive gold medal the semifinals or Friday. The
Speaker 1: gold medal game is actually on the last day of
Speaker 1: the Olympics on Sunday, so that'll be fun to watch.
Speaker 1: We'll just hopefully, I don't want to assume, but let's
Speaker 1: hope that the American women will be in that final
Speaker 1: in the bag. A lot going on track and field,
Speaker 1: the one hundred ten meter hurdle semi finals, where we
Speaker 1: have a favorite to win a medal. He's an American
Speaker 1: three time world champ, Tokyo silver medalist, Grant Holloway. He'll
Speaker 1: be competing. That's this afternoon. Lots of multiple track and
Speaker 1: field events throughout the day, so we'll be very occupied.
Speaker 1: Synchronized swimming, artistics, swimming. The team finals are at one
Speaker 1: thirty this afternoon, and Team USA is looking good. Yesterday
Speaker 1: we were just behind China, so that is something to
Speaker 1: definitely take a look at. And we watched the mixed
Speaker 1: marathon walk relay this morning and there is such a
Speaker 1: great moment when the winning country crosses the finish line there. Yes,
Speaker 1: you have to watch it with the backdrop of the
Speaker 1: Eiffel Tower, champagne going everywhere. It was really celebratory and
Speaker 1: fun and you were just it was it was fun
Speaker 1: to watch. I really really enjoyed that Men's Beach Volleyball
Speaker 1: USA takes on Cutter Qatar. How you say that? At
Speaker 1: four pm today when I was at NBC News, we
Speaker 1: said cutter. Now I think everyone says qatar. The aato
Speaker 1: tomato playing the US is playing at four pm today
Speaker 1: and oh my goodness, we're so excited. Men's park skateboarding.
Speaker 1: So our guys are competing actually right now as we're
Speaker 1: recording this. Gavin Botger and Tom shar that's who we
Speaker 1: spoke to. If you haven't heard our interview with them,
Speaker 1: please check it out. It's a couple podcasts ago. But
Speaker 1: they talked to us just before they started competing. The heat.
Speaker 1: The heat's already going on right now, but the finals
Speaker 1: are at eleven thirty a m. This morning.
Speaker 2: I love this park.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all in one day, they're knocking it all out
Speaker 1: and then this is cool on Team Great Britain. He's
Speaker 1: an American, but he's competing for a Great Britain. He's
Speaker 1: fifty one years yars old. He is competing in park
Speaker 1: skateboarding amongst teenagers. Like this is a sport where it's
Speaker 1: known for its youth in fact China, he's he's from
Speaker 1: he is American, but he's he's competing for Team Great Britain.
Speaker 2: Maybe I say that because we're watching it live and
Speaker 2: I saw a guy with a skateboard like.
Speaker 1: He's fifty one years I didn't think he was a competitor.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a week okay, had to be And.
Speaker 1: There China has an eleven year old competing in this
Speaker 1: exact same event. So there is going to be an
Speaker 1: eleven year old competing against a fifty one year old
Speaker 1: and for that in and of itself, I'm watching and
Speaker 1: I had to look it up because I was confused.
Speaker 1: There's no minimum age to compete in surfing or skateboarding events,
Speaker 1: so if you're a surfer or a skateboarder, you can
Speaker 1: be as young as you want to be.
Speaker 2: I guess apparently as old as you want to be
Speaker 2: and as old.
Speaker 1: As you want to be. Olympic gymnasts have to be
Speaker 1: sixteen by the way to compete, and boxers have to
Speaker 1: be eighteen, but boxers also can't be over the age
Speaker 1: of forty. So some sports have very specific age requirements,
Speaker 1: and I love that skateboarding has none, so an eleven
Speaker 1: year old, We'll go up against a fifty one year.
Speaker 2: Old And I'm sorry, I only pointed to you because
Speaker 2: our boy is coming up, Gavin Gavin. But we just
Speaker 2: love seventeen year old. Isn't he ranked number one in
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 1: He is, and he's seventeen years old and chill.
Speaker 2: And there he goes. We talk to this guy the
Speaker 2: other day as we were talking to you, we are
Speaker 2: watching him lie perform at the Olympics and his park
Speaker 2: run in the prelimbs, and it's amazing that this kid
Speaker 2: is seventeen years old. To see him doing what he's
Speaker 2: doing right now, we all have a dog in the
Speaker 2: fight when he comes to the Olympics Team USA. But
Speaker 2: once you get to talk to somebody, and once we
Speaker 2: spend a little time with him and getting to know
Speaker 2: his personality, I feel myself rooting for this dude harder
Speaker 2: than I'm root it for anybody that I mean.
Speaker 1: They're just doing it for the passion and love of
Speaker 1: the sport and nothing else, and they're remarkable at it.
Speaker 1: And you know, these guys don't have coaches. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just this is what they love to do, and
Speaker 1: they do it all day long. He gets home school. Wow,
Speaker 1: that was remarkable. He doesn't go to high school, you know,
Speaker 1: for high school. He goes to homeschool because this is
Speaker 1: his this is what he does as often and as
Speaker 1: long as he can in southern California where the weather
Speaker 1: makes it do.
Speaker 2: And he just made a great run. So glad you
Speaker 2: stuck around with us for that little ding. We just
Speaker 2: watched him.
Speaker 1: His family cheering in the All right, y'all, thank you
Speaker 1: for listening to us each and every day. We're going
Speaker 1: to keep bringing it to you. Tomorrow you'll get more
Speaker 1: tea from Perry