WEBVTT - Tea from Paris: Day Twelve

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday, August seventh, and Team USA still on top. US

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<v Speaker 1>athletes have now won a total of eighty six Olympic medals.

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<v Speaker 1>China has fifty nine medals, and France remains in third

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<v Speaker 1>place with forty eight medals. And France actually didn't pick

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<v Speaker 1>up a medal at all during competition yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Woan wow when well, welcome to this tea from Perry

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<v Speaker 2>edition of Amy and TJ. Everybody. Team USA also now

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<v Speaker 2>leads in the gold medal count, and two of those

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<v Speaker 2>came in dramatic and spectacular fashion yesterday. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>The first was in the fifteen hundred final where American

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<v Speaker 1>Cole Hawker pulled off a stunning upset, and then in

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<v Speaker 1>the women's two hundred meter final where American Gabby Thomas dominated.

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<v Speaker 1>But after her win, did anyone notice how the commentators

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<v Speaker 1>spoke about her?

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<v Speaker 2>Also in this episode, the women's floor final that had

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<v Speaker 2>all that scoring drama, remember well that drama ain't over yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Could Jordan Childs actually have her bronze medal taken away?

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<v Speaker 2>After Romania Lodge is a protest to once again review scores.

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<v Speaker 2>This as Romania's Prime Minister says he's going to now

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<v Speaker 2>boycott the closing ceremony.

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<v Speaker 1>And the US women's soccer team continues to be the

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<v Speaker 1>most fun and anxiety inducing team to watch. Plus gold

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<v Speaker 1>medals for two athletes yesterday whose names you probably do

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<v Speaker 1>not know, but they might be the two most dominant

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<v Speaker 1>athletes at the Olympics. And what exactly is the steeple chase?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it in the Olympics? And why is there

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<v Speaker 1>a puddle of water right in the middle of the track.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fun one to watch, but it is a

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<v Speaker 2>little weird, even people that run and have fun about

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<v Speaker 2>calling it weird. We just thought we'd give you a

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<v Speaker 2>little steeplechase history here in just a bit. We'll get

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<v Speaker 2>into that in a second. But every morning here, as

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<v Speaker 2>per usual, we are watching live events and you make

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<v Speaker 2>fun of me because you usually come out and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what I've been crying about in the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>and what did we just see? And what did you

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<v Speaker 2>just say? Right the final? And you we will.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been watching speed climbing, and really all of the climbing,

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<v Speaker 1>but the speed climbing is so much fun. It's over

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<v Speaker 1>with in less than six seconds usually, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a fun nail biting on the edge of your seat event.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we just saw the women's finals and we

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<v Speaker 1>won't say who won, but it was a very sweet

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<v Speaker 1>moment when she won gold and came out and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it was her boyfriend or her husband. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but just to see the love and his excitement for

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<v Speaker 1>her and her excitement at winning, it was just it

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<v Speaker 1>was those are the beautiful moments, and you find yourself

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<v Speaker 1>getting swept up in the emotion of it and tears

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<v Speaker 1>falling down your face for an athlete who wasn't even

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<v Speaker 1>one of your country men or women.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do girls do that? I'm looking at you right now, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>You all can't see robes, but just you talking about

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<v Speaker 2>her and her boyfriend. You just you did your shoulders up,

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<v Speaker 2>did you talk to her boyfriend?

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<v Speaker 1>You did a little You're right, you know, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. And I love seeing these athletes getting because

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't do what they do probably if they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the support of the people around them. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just fun. You know, we haven't seen fans, We haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen boyfriends and girlfriends and moms and dads being able

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<v Speaker 1>to be there and supporting their athletes. So it's just

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<v Speaker 1>been so that's what's been missing in the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of Olympics, and so to see it all now on display,

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<v Speaker 1>it just it's extra beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right. It is added to the enjoyment of watching

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<v Speaker 2>these Olympics, certainly versus the last one. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>numbers have proven that as well as far as the ratings.

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<v Speaker 2>But the other thing we watched yesterday, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why we've been missing. We should have prioritized this more,

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<v Speaker 2>the synchronized swimming or artistic swimming, sorry, artistic swimming, but

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<v Speaker 2>we caught a little bit of it yesterday and I'm like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been missing this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's remarkable. It's basically taking all of the talent of

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<v Speaker 1>Olympic swimmers and all of the talent of Olympic gymnasts

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<v Speaker 1>and putting them together. I mean, I think it's remarkable

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<v Speaker 1>what they're able to do, how they're able to be

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<v Speaker 1>upside down in the water and mimicking exactly what their

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<v Speaker 1>teammates are doing. I am blown away and spectacular all

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I have missed I think the sport has

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<v Speaker 2>changed a lot since I was watching it. Most because

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<v Speaker 2>I cover some Olympics, and I've done some work with

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<v Speaker 2>synchronized swimming teams and interviews, and I studied a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>but the how elaborate the routine is getting into the

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<v Speaker 2>water is what I am like a little more.

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<v Speaker 1>We were laughing because it's there's something odd about all

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<v Speaker 1>of these people kind of looking exactly alike and then

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<v Speaker 1>doing the exact same thing. It doesn't seem real, but

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<v Speaker 1>remarkably it is. And this year men two men I

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<v Speaker 1>think can be on each team, which is a new

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<v Speaker 1>development from Olympics past. But it is definitely worth watching.

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<v Speaker 2>But the last shout out here in the coverage, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you all have noticed again, Robes, you've been to

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of Olympics. I've just been to or just

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<v Speaker 2>been to a couple. I don't remember. The athlete moment,

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<v Speaker 2>the thing they have set up when the athlete performs

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<v Speaker 2>and they can look and have like a FaceTime with

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<v Speaker 2>their families somewhere else. That is a huge spin. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that's a cute nugget.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, at this Olympics, when they're kind of coming in

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<v Speaker 1>and out of competition, they can go to the family

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<v Speaker 1>cam basically and the athletes either who are about to compete,

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<v Speaker 1>or who have just competed, can go and FaceTime with

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<v Speaker 1>multiple family members. Sometimes you'll see, you know, the high

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<v Speaker 1>school gym filled with you know, all of the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>They're rooting on their hometown athlete. But it's been really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember seeing that in the Olympics past.

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<v Speaker 2>So cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been great. Actually, given COVID, that would

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<v Speaker 1>have been perfect, but I don't remember that being a

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<v Speaker 1>part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It is so cool to see that. It's just just

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<v Speaker 2>as NonStop Alympic moments, no matter if they're American athletes

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<v Speaker 2>or not. This has been really, really fun. But yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>we got a lot happening on the track, a really

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<v Speaker 2>big day on the track yesterday, and everybody kind of delivered.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not a couple of athletes, but certainly the races

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<v Speaker 2>we were watching they delivered the way they were supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because the men's fifteen hundred meter was being heralded

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<v Speaker 1>as the must see race, and it did not disappointed.

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<v Speaker 1>To your point, it was supposed to be epic. It

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be a vicious race between the superstars

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<v Speaker 1>of the fifteen hundred meters, the reigning Olympic Olympic champion

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<v Speaker 1>from Norway and the current world champion from Great Britain.

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<v Speaker 1>But all of a sudden, the little American with the

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<v Speaker 1>man bun crashed their party. We're talking about Cole Hawker

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<v Speaker 1>or Hoker as the it was trying me crazy. He

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<v Speaker 1>was calling him hokah, like the shoe. I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Hawker. I know you're British, but you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to lean into the fact that his name is

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<v Speaker 1>Cole Hawker.

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<v Speaker 2>It took away from our viewing experience because Rope was

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<v Speaker 2>against so pissed that the guy kept calling them Cole Hoker.

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<v Speaker 1>This is your moment, and the guy is mispronouncing his

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<v Speaker 1>name pretty atrociously. And look, we've all mispronounced the name.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I was frustrated by is his American counterparts

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<v Speaker 1>were clearly then saying his name right, and he just

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<v Speaker 1>continued to say hokah instead of Hawker.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, You'll see where I'm coming from and see what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm dealing with. But Cole Hawker. He pulled off what

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the biggest upsets of the Games, probably

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest upset of track and field. He chased down

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<v Speaker 2>the favorites in the final stretch and he wins the goal.

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<v Speaker 2>This had been talked about a lot, and most of

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<v Speaker 2>the talk had been about athletes other than Cole Hawker.

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<v Speaker 2>The race feature too high profile and these are kind

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<v Speaker 2>of some bad ass dudes. Even looking at him, the

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<v Speaker 2>guy from the Great the brit I think, or is

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<v Speaker 2>he hi? Or where is he from? But Josh Kurr

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<v Speaker 2>is his name? Sure, he's great Britton. Okay, he's the

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<v Speaker 2>current world champion. Now if you look at him, he

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<v Speaker 2>just looks like a cool, tough dude. He just looks

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of a badass.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Jacob Inga Britzton of Norway won gold in this event

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<v Speaker 2>in Tokyo. So those two for the past couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years been going back and forth on the track, and

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<v Speaker 2>they've been going back and forth in media, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>drawing any Yeah, The.

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Post had a headline that said the Olympics spiciest

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<v Speaker 1>rivals run fast, then run their mouths like I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty well determined that they genuinely do not like

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<v Speaker 1>each other and aren't afraid to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Run fast, run their mouths, then got beat by an

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<v Speaker 2>American is exactly what happened. So Jake Inger Britson of Norway.

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<v Speaker 2>He was ahead the entire race for the most part.

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<v Speaker 2>He just jumped out there and set the pace. But

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<v Speaker 2>then he got run down by a couple of Americans,

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<v Speaker 2>of course Cole Hawker among them. He didn't even place.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't even get amo got fourth place up and

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<v Speaker 2>fourth and then the other dude first position.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever, according to TJ it is probably for him, especially so.

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<v Speaker 2>He's hid fourth and then the other guy ends up

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<v Speaker 2>in second. But yeah, Cole Hawker with the little man

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<v Speaker 2>bun back there, that was a huge, huge upset and

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<v Speaker 2>to see him close and how he did it not

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<v Speaker 2>three seconds off his own personal best, set a record

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<v Speaker 2>in the making. Congrats to him, and this is an

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<v Speaker 2>unexpected one.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a fun one to watch. We were screaming

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<v Speaker 1>and it was I loved it from start to finish. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>right after that race, we got a treat. We got

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<v Speaker 1>to see Gabby Thomas. Her race went a little differently,

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<v Speaker 1>but the result was the same. She got gold. It

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't have any drama, which actually I appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 1>I think after the fifteen hundred meter but she came

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<v Speaker 1>around the turn in the two hundred meter final and

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<v Speaker 1>it just she glided away from her competitors. It didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even look like she was working hard. You could see

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<v Speaker 1>everyone behind her. It looked like they, I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>were running for their lives, and it looked like she

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<v Speaker 1>was just enjoying a lovely stroll down the track. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just effortless. Obviously it's obviously not effortless, but

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<v Speaker 1>she made it look like that, and she just dominated.

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<v Speaker 2>And she again she was one who is expected. She

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<v Speaker 2>has dominated the past couple of years in this race.

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<v Speaker 2>She also won the bronze in Tokyo, so there were

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<v Speaker 2>high expectations for her. And Julian Alfred is the one

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<v Speaker 2>who won the fastest woman in the world won one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred meter of course beach carry Richardson in that race.

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<v Speaker 2>She ends up with a silver medal. Here she's from

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Lucia. That means now Saint Lucia has in the

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<v Speaker 2>country's history, won two Olympic medals. And where will those two?

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<v Speaker 2>Whose house will they be at?

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<v Speaker 1>Julian Alfred's house. Yes, won them both, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just love seeing her. She has such a warmth

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<v Speaker 1>about her. Could she was and she was a distant second,

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<v Speaker 1>which was kind of remarkable given her fastest woman in

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<v Speaker 1>the world title, I know for that one hundred meter race,

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<v Speaker 1>but just even watching Julian and watching Gabby interact was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just everyone is there supporting each other, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I love to see.

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<v Speaker 2>And we wanted to hug Gabby Thomas. It was funny

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<v Speaker 2>watching her. Right after we were like, where is somebody

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<v Speaker 2>where she had family? Friends?

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody went to their family, and I was like, why

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<v Speaker 1>she was doing her victory laps as she should, but

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<v Speaker 1>we were waiting to see who she would end up,

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<v Speaker 1>and finally she did find her family. We felt better.

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<v Speaker 2>But during that happy moment we were watching, we were smiling.

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<v Speaker 2>She rang the bell. Of course, she got the flag

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<v Speaker 2>around and she's reunited with a family. But we were

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<v Speaker 2>listening to a discussion from the commentators, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>a discussion that ended up being pretty shocking, frankly from

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<v Speaker 2>our vantage point, and I'm sure a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>caught it, and I'm sure a lot of people didn't

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<v Speaker 2>catch it, didn't think anything of it, but it delved

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<v Speaker 2>into some highly offensive but all too familiar language used

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<v Speaker 2>against African Americans. Now, we do not we're not trying

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<v Speaker 2>to call out these commentators. We don't want to use

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<v Speaker 2>their names. You want to go track them down, that's

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<v Speaker 2>on you. But it's the point here is not to

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<v Speaker 2>lodge a criticism. But I guess it's it's Robes. It

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<v Speaker 2>was shocking to me and it was hurtful to me

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<v Speaker 2>to hear it, and it sucked for Gabby Thomas. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's also shocking. Sometimes we have people put their foot

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<v Speaker 2>in the mouth. It's one person has one offhand comment

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<v Speaker 2>in one moment. I was surprised to see three people

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<v Speaker 2>kind of engage in the same conversation and nobody seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to understand what they were saying. Now, I'll we have

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<v Speaker 2>the exact because I don't want to put words in

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<v Speaker 2>their mouths. So you got a playboy play guy, you

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<v Speaker 2>got a female commentator, you got a male commentator in there,

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<v Speaker 2>and robes you take you know, I put it in

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<v Speaker 2>their verbatim. What sparked the conversation from the play by play.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy, Well, they were talking about Gabby Thomas's win and

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<v Speaker 1>what that will mean for the coverage of athletics in America.

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<v Speaker 1>How big will she be and especially in connection to

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<v Speaker 1>or in comparison to Shakrrie Richardson, who has obviously dominated

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<v Speaker 1>all of the advertisements and much of America, and the

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<v Speaker 1>advertisers pin their hopes on her becoming the fastest woman

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. So she's been the one you see

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<v Speaker 1>her face everywhere. Well, now that we have Gabby Thomas,

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<v Speaker 1>who we should note is a beautiful woman. And in

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<v Speaker 1>that sense, they were saying, how will these two women compare?

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<v Speaker 1>How will American media? How will American businesses treat both

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<v Speaker 1>of them? Now? Given all of.

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<v Speaker 2>Things, okay, and this was important, I wanted to give

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<v Speaker 2>folks you altho verbatim because I don't want you all

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<v Speaker 2>to think we're putting words in their mouths. The play

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<v Speaker 2>by play guy said, quote, what will this mean for

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<v Speaker 2>coverage of athletics in America? How big will Gabby Thomas

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<v Speaker 2>be now in connection and in relation to sha Carrie Richardson?

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<v Speaker 2>In quote, that's the question. The female commentator comes back

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<v Speaker 2>and responds and I quote, you know, Gabby Thomas is

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<v Speaker 2>sort of that American dream. She goes to Harvard and

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<v Speaker 2>she gets this wonderful degree. She's awesome on the track,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's even better off the track. She wants to

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<v Speaker 2>give back in quote now roads At that point my

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<v Speaker 2>mood changed and I looked at you, and you looked

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<v Speaker 2>at me back, like him, what's going on? And you

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<v Speaker 2>started to pay a little closer.

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<v Speaker 1>Attention, right you Actually you actually got up out of

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<v Speaker 1>the couch and I was watching with Annili's we were

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<v Speaker 1>both listening my daughter, and you got about the couch

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<v Speaker 1>and you put your hand over your head and went ah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you made a noise, and I said, what what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on? And you just kind of pointed to the TV.

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<v Speaker 1>So then we perked up and listened.

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<v Speaker 2>It continued, so the next commentator in the room, and

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<v Speaker 2>you could take this one herie, and again, folks, it's

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<v Speaker 2>important because we don't want to be putting words in

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<v Speaker 2>people's mouths. You in turke of them how you want to.

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<v Speaker 2>But the may after the female commentator makes the comments

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<v Speaker 2>about Yabby Thomas going to Harvard and she's the American dream.

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<v Speaker 2>The male commentator follows up.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, like Alison Felix, she's already kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>glamorous figure in the States, and she is almost every

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<v Speaker 1>time you talk about her story as a champion and

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<v Speaker 1>how fast she is. It comes with all these other

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<v Speaker 1>things that she is this Harvard grad that she went

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<v Speaker 1>to med school, and she did these things in volunteering

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<v Speaker 1>during the week after training, and so much of that

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<v Speaker 1>story is this person in full. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a great thing to sell. It will sell, It will

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<v Speaker 1>sell in every boardroom in America. And I think she

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<v Speaker 1>becomes huge, and I think she's an example to every

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<v Speaker 1>girl that this is what you can be as a whole,

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<v Speaker 1>not just as an athlete.

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<v Speaker 2>Follow up by the play by play guy and I

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<v Speaker 2>quote a glowing character reference for Gabby Thomas, who is

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<v Speaker 2>sure to be a big star. She does seem from

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<v Speaker 2>a neutral's point of view, she seems articulate, She seems intell,

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<v Speaker 2>she seems passionate about her sport. At this point, I

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<v Speaker 2>got up and I walked out onto the balcony in

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<v Speaker 2>ninety degree weather to cool down.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, and so I would not have noticed probably

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<v Speaker 1>anything wrong or anything that seemed offensive until I heard

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<v Speaker 1>the play by play guy say she seems articulate and

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<v Speaker 1>that obviously I knew was a ding ding ding ding.

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<v Speaker 1>But the crazy thing is you felt it, you heard it,

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<v Speaker 1>you heard where they were going, you saw where they

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<v Speaker 1>were headed. In their commentary and then when it was

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<v Speaker 1>sealed with the articulate, seems intelligent, seems like that just

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden AILSA and I went, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>he did not just say that.

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<v Speaker 2>So and folks, we read this exactly how it was

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<v Speaker 2>said on television. Maybe you called it, maybe you didn't,

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<v Speaker 2>but take note of it and take note of your

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<v Speaker 2>reaction to it, because there will be some people out

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<v Speaker 2>there at all you're making too much of it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't mean that, or they're just well meaning. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know any of these people personally. I'm this non

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<v Speaker 2>indictment of who they are, but it got me when

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<v Speaker 2>they try to Initially, his first question in comparing Gabby

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas to Sha Carrie Richardson, when you want to compare them,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they start to elevate Gabby because she's this,

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<v Speaker 2>she's this, she's this, she's this, she's this. And what

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<v Speaker 2>I hear in that, and what we often hear in

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<v Speaker 2>these things, is she's not this type of black. She's

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<v Speaker 2>not this type of black that I think of. She's

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<v Speaker 2>not this negative, she's not this dirty, she's not tattooed,

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't have the nails, she doesn't have the hair.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't have the bravado, she didn't get caught with marijuana.

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<v Speaker 2>She they're saying, this is a black person that White

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<v Speaker 2>America can accept, and that's what we hear all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is this is constant. So the Shakiri comparison

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<v Speaker 2>got in My ears perked up and I said, please

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<v Speaker 2>don't do this, and then to button that up with

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest moment this woman ever had. What you're saying

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<v Speaker 2>is that this woman doesn't fit your negative stereotype of

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<v Speaker 2>black folks because she is articulate. Because that's not what

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<v Speaker 2>I usually think about black folks. So this stands out.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me point it out. You don't ever white

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<v Speaker 2>folks don't get described like that, and Robs. You and

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<v Speaker 2>I have talked plenty here about me being in all

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<v Speaker 2>those meetings at the network and how many times when

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<v Speaker 2>somebody pitches a story and it's a black person who

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<v Speaker 2>is the main business owner or whatever it is, and

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<v Speaker 2>they have to follow up. Now he's articulate, Now he

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<v Speaker 2>speaks well. I talked to him earlier and he's really

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<v Speaker 2>well spoken. They're giving all of my white producers say

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay, he's black, but it's okay it's okay, we

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<v Speaker 2>can put him on TV. That Ugh, it drives me crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I couldn't believe it was happening on a world

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<v Speaker 2>stage with three people just openly kind of discussing it.

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<v Speaker 2>It caught me by surprise yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>And you just put that so perfectly. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>anytime anyone wants to say, well, they were just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how great she was, they were just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>listing her accolades off the track. But the reality is,

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<v Speaker 1>would they do that and would they compare to white

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<v Speaker 1>male athletes like that? I talk about there, well, who's

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<v Speaker 1>more marketable than the other? That in and of itself

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<v Speaker 1>is offensive and I get it, and I didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>it at first, and then I started to see your

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<v Speaker 1>face and I started listening differently, and it sounded differently.

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<v Speaker 1>And the truth is, I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>heard that and didn't think anything of it and thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was just genuine praise for someone who deserves it.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's so much more to it. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing that you can point that out and people

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<v Speaker 1>can maybe hear it differently and think about how they're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to things and how they're actually approaching certain subjects

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<v Speaker 1>and rethink it and why am I thinking like this,

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<v Speaker 1>and why would I think it's okay to say that?

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<v Speaker 2>But on the biggest stage in the world, they perpetuated

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<v Speaker 2>this idea that this this one's okay and this one

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<v Speaker 2>is not, and that it drove me crazy. He goes

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<v Speaker 2>back to the classic of a Biden example of talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Obama. You got the first mainstream African American who

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<v Speaker 2>is articulate and bright and clean. He said that about

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<v Speaker 2>President Obama, and he later apologized, But it's it makes

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<v Speaker 2>a suggestion that black folks are only marketable or acceptable

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<v Speaker 2>to white America or mainstream America if they have some

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<v Speaker 2>distance from the struggles of the black community. Harvard Right

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<v Speaker 2>volunteers at a medical said all these things which are

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful about her, but that's not the only thing that

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<v Speaker 2>makes a black person marketable or we don't all have

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<v Speaker 2>that experience, And its just it sucked.

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<v Speaker 1>I just got chills listening to you say that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really glad that you did say it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that people you know, just it's something to think about,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's an important and important thing to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we get back to regular drama?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've got a lot dramas. I mean, this is insane,

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<v Speaker 1>the gymnastics scoring drama. So the judges, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>the judges got it wrong. I mean, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>indisputable at this point when it came to the floor exercise.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you haven't read into this, this is so complicated.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens now if the judges did get it wrong

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<v Speaker 1>and the floor exercise that happened on Monday, well a

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<v Speaker 1>lot is happening. The Romanian Prime minister says he is

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<v Speaker 1>going to boycott the closing ceremonies, and athletes says she

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<v Speaker 1>is quitting the sport altogether at the age of seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>There are letters of protests that have been sent, Requests

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<v Speaker 1>for legal action are in play, and there is a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous amount of hate online that it's just it's it's sad. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>most of you already know by now that Jordan Chiles

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<v Speaker 1>scored initially a thirteen point six sixty six, falling to

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<v Speaker 1>fifth place on the floor exercise behind Romanias, Anna Barbosu

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<v Speaker 1>and Sabrina Vogna. They tied with a thirteen point seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Team USA puts in an inquiry about Jordan's difficulty score.

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<v Speaker 1>The judges decided to award her back that tenth of

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<v Speaker 1>a point, and that gave Jordan Chiles a thirteen point

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<v Speaker 1>seven to six. It gave her the bronze medal. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>following me so far, I just it's this is a

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<v Speaker 1>crazy story. It was a heartbreaking moment for the Romanians.

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<v Speaker 1>They haven't won a medal in gymnastic since twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Anna had already had the Romanian flag draped around her.

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<v Speaker 1>She was celebrating her bronze when the new score posted

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<v Speaker 1>and she realized she had lost it. Okay, so fans

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<v Speaker 1>go to social media, they're reacting, they're looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>videos of their performances, and it was the fans who

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<v Speaker 1>initially determined it was actually the other Romanian gymnast, Sabrina,

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<v Speaker 1>who they believe now was actually wrong. Judges took away

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<v Speaker 1>a tenth of a point from her routine for stepping

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<v Speaker 1>out of bounds. But there are videos and pictures famous

0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Romanian legend Nadia Komen each putting it out there that

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<v Speaker 1>show she was not out of bounds, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>in the primetime reairing of her routine, the NBC commentators

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<v Speaker 1>reported that she did not step out of bounds. So

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<v Speaker 1>now Sabrina's floor exercise could be reanalyzed by the International

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<v Speaker 1>Gymnastics Federation. The head of the Romanian Olympic Committee sent

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<v Speaker 1>a letter of protest. They want to rescore of her routine.

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<v Speaker 1>If the Federation did that, they could then bring the

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<v Speaker 1>review to the Court of Arbitration for Sports. This is

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<v Speaker 1>just crazy, and if she was rescored, she could get

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<v Speaker 1>that tenth of a point back, which would bring her

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<v Speaker 1>score to thirteen point eight, which would put her back

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<v Speaker 1>in third place the bronze medal. The medals were already awarded,

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<v Speaker 1>and there is a precedent for this. There is just

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<v Speaker 1>a way they operate here at the Olympics. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a long standing view that the athletic results must be

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<v Speaker 1>determined by the field of play decisions, not by court rulings.

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<v Speaker 1>So most people believe that Jordan Childs, regardless of who

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<v Speaker 1>reviews what or who rescores what, will keep her bronze

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<v Speaker 1>medal and will stay in third place. But because of

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<v Speaker 1>all of this, seventeen year old Sabrina says she's quitting gymnastics,

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<v Speaker 1>and as you might imagine, Jordan Chiles is getting a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous amount of hate online, rising to the level where

0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:34.600
<v Speaker 1>her own mother went on to Twitter and asked people

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<v Speaker 1>to please stop, to please stop bullying her child.

0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:41.840
<v Speaker 2>This Look, this is gone. I don't know how far

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 2>it is going to go. We talk about whether or

0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:47.359
<v Speaker 2>not Jordan could lose her brond. That's not going to happen.

0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:50.439
<v Speaker 2>There is president impossible that scores could change later and

0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:53.959
<v Speaker 2>somebody else could receive a bronze, but it's not. It's

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:55.600
<v Speaker 2>not going to be not going to take one off

0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:58.200
<v Speaker 2>her neck and give it to somebody else. That's done,

0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:01.000
<v Speaker 2>so we don't expect that sssarily, But it just keeps

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:02.639
<v Speaker 2>going and going and going. And to your point, I

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:03.960
<v Speaker 2>haven't looked at a lot of it, you know, I

0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 2>don't look at social media a lot these days. But

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 2>the things that are going around, and look, Americans are

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:13.440
<v Speaker 2>very supportive of of Jordan Childs, obviously, but folks all

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:16.679
<v Speaker 2>over the world looking at I assume, right the Americans

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 2>cheating in some way, getting away with something, or scoring

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:22.399
<v Speaker 2>somebody over. It's just it's always some kind of scoring

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:25.360
<v Speaker 2>controversy when you have subjective.

0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Jordan had nothing to do with the scoring. Controversy,

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:33.120
<v Speaker 1>so to put any sort of hate or anger towards

0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 1>her is completely misguided and completely inappropriate.

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 2>And don't have it right. They have they can. They

0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 2>can only review. They can't review your execution, but they

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 2>can review your what you're like a technical skill, they can.

0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 2>It's something about the real I'm still learning about inquiries,

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 2>which are common apparently in yes, gymnastics, so nothing new,

0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 2>but we are all getting to update on rules these days. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just hope people can just save any of

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 1>that hate, you know, and just don't hits end, don't publish,

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 1>don't put out so much negativity. I just I feel

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 1>for her because you know, it's sad for Romania. But

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Chiles should be able to celebrate her bronze medal regardless.

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:22.400
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, I know there was a lot of celebrating

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:26.399
<v Speaker 1>going on. US Women's soccer. Wow, we were jumping up

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:29.360
<v Speaker 1>and down. It took a while, but we finally won.

0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 1>It took all a long while.

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 2>It took a full almost it did take full time,

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:38.719
<v Speaker 2>but then extra time. It went to overtime in this

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:41.120
<v Speaker 2>one and didn't took to the ninety fifth minute before

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 2>the US women finally scored, so they ended up beating

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Germany yesterday one nil. They played Germany in the group stage,

0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:50.640
<v Speaker 2>you might remember, and they won that one four to one.

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:53.639
<v Speaker 2>Germany is actually a higher ranked team in the world

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.560
<v Speaker 2>than the US. They ranked fourth, US is ranked fifth.

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:58.639
<v Speaker 2>Didn't look like it yesterday. I didn't look like it

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 2>in the Olympics. But we that was our day. I

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 2>had nine am. I had the women's platform diving I

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 2>had to see. But after that it was noon. You

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 2>all should see us. We are like idiots in here

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 2>trying to plan everything. We had to call the daughters

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 2>and where we're all going to be, and what's this

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen, where's the food? And we all to get

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 2>on the couch by noon for the game.

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it was. It was a blast. They did

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 1>not disappoint. And I know what we're going to be

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:24.560
<v Speaker 1>on Saturday at eleven am. We are going to be

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:29.879
<v Speaker 1>watching the US women face Brazil for the gold medal.

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 1>This is so exciting. And you know what, we were

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:34.359
<v Speaker 1>ranked fifth and that sounds great, but you know, to

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>be now going for gold, that's a huge accomplishment for

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 1>a team that I don't think a lot of people

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 1>necessarily thought would get to where they are having.

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Losts Emma hayes Era at the with the US women,

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:46.200
<v Speaker 2>the new coach. She is doing her thing and she's

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 2>fun to watch her fun things on the sideline. So

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 2>that's on Saturday. You know where we'll be. Did you

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 2>get to see a meet Allure and Kwan Hong Zong

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 2>both win gold medals? Yes today?

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Come again?

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you might be saying, ooh and no we didn't

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 2>see them. Yes, Amid Allure and Kwan Hong Jan both

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 2>got gold medals yesterday. They are not household names, but

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 2>they just might be the two most dominant athletes at

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 2>the Paris Games. I know, slow down, TJ. You know

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Simone was at these Games. I get it, but hear

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:26.680
<v Speaker 2>us out. Amid Allure won Golden women's wrestling. She's twenty

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 2>years old. She's the youngest American man or woman to

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 2>ever win Golden wrestling at the Olympics. But why call

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 2>her one of the most dominant athletes in Paris robes

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:37.639
<v Speaker 2>because she has not lost a wrestling match in international

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:39.360
<v Speaker 2>competition since twenty.

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Nineteen, five years straight.

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 2>I believe that's about forty two and oh or something

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 2>like that. That she is now she is a phenom

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 2>and dominant and in her matches in the Olympics, she's

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 2>three and oho going into the final. She won all

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 2>her matches, but the scorer threw out her matches. At

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 2>the Olympics. She won twenty eight to two. That's the

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 2>overall scoring twenty eight to two. Her opponent didn't score

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 2>on her at all in the final. Her coach actually said,

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:07.880
<v Speaker 2>the surprise here at the Olympics is not that she won,

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 2>but that anybody scored against her at all.

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Wow, she's that good.

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 2>She is that good, an absolute phenom. But she has

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 2>dominated to the point that they even say her opponents

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 2>walk out looking intimidated, don't even know what to do

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:20.640
<v Speaker 2>with her.

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, congratulations to her. And I know this is a

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:27.400
<v Speaker 1>young woman who you have been heralding this entire Olympics.

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.920
<v Speaker 1>You will not miss when she competes.

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I love a Kwang Hoong Joan who's seventeen years old now.

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 2>But Chinese diver, she's seventeen. She's seventeen and is a

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 2>two time Olympic champion on platform. You're like, wait, how

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 2>did that work? Yes, she won the first one at

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 2>fourteen years old in Tokyo, fourteen years old. She was

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 2>a darling of Tokyo that came out of nowhere for

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot of folks. But she was scoring perfect tens

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 2>at the age of fourteen. Yesterday, the final, very first dive,

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 2>perfect ten across the board. She's just there is no competition.

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 2>She made a little on one of her dives and

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 2>her teammate kind of got close, but she still won comfortably.

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 2>But she and her teammate are so far ahead of

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>anybody else. It was no question who's gonna get gold,

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 2>no question who's gonna get.

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Soilb didn't they say that when she dives this is

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>her right that it almost looks like quicksand, like the

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 1>water is not splashing up, but it's actually being sucked down.

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 1>She makes her dives that beautiful.

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 2>There's some technique that they have perfected, and it's some

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 2>name for that loosely translates into splash disappearance technique or

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 2>something they were saying, but it does quicksand is the

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 2>right way to put it. You go into the water,

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 2>it looks like the water follows you down. She's that good.

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 2>So I know I haven't missed her.

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Uh yes, And so we were talking about our track

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and field. You just kind of re educating ourselves into

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>some of these events. They've been fun to watch, like

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the hammer throw. I mean, we've been having a blast.

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 1>It's been really fun. But we especially enjoyed the steeple chase.

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I have never seen it before, so I was shocked,

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>as many people might have been if they were watching

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>to see water, like a why are they running through

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>water on the track? It was I've never seen anything

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>like it.

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 2>See. And that's the crazy thing is it has been

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 2>in the Olympics. It is the early nineteen hundreds. But

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 2>my question, we were watching it yesterday and I'm like,

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 2>why is this still an event? Like why is that there?

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I hadn't never looked up the history. So for folks,

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 2>if you were watching a race, it's a three thousand

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 2>meters steeplechase, and the athletes get on the track and

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 2>they're jumping over obstacles. But they're not necessarily hurdles. They

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 2>look like big police.

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Barriers, barriers, and they don't give. You know, hurdles will

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>give if you if you hit it.

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 2>These do not, Yes, and we have seen some I

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen in this dramatic falls but in the past.

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 2>But then on one pass you jump over this obstacle,

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 2>but there is a pit of water on the other

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 2>side and you can't clear the water, so you're gonna

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 2>end up in it getting wet. That's the actual event

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 2>and you're thinking, why is this a thing? Well, the

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 2>steeple chase goes back to Ireland, we understand.

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 1>And it was an equestrian event, correct. It started out

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 1>with horses, was what they believe, and then as it continued,

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>they decided to have runners do it, and they wanted

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:19.840
<v Speaker 1>to emulate what those races were like where you were

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:22.959
<v Speaker 1>going over natural barriers and fences and sometimes you had

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>to run through rivers and streams, and so to emulate

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>all of that, that is how they put together this

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 1>steeple chase route. And it is unusual and I would

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 1>say very very entertaining. It's something to see.

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 2>It's something to see, but it's entertaining. But it's a

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it gets a little ugly. I mean they

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 2>have some nasty spills I've seen over the years trying

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 2>to get over that water, and it's potential for disaster.

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>But the steeple chase, the name even yes steeple when

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 2>they were racing back in the early nineteen hundreds or

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 2>whatever it was on the horses. What could you see

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 2>from town to town? What was the easiest marker? It

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 2>was the church steeple, So they were literally chasing and

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 2>running and racing from steeple to steeple, hence the name.

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 2>So that is your Olympics history too.

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Anytime that's on, I will watch it because I think

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty remarkable to see and where else could you

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>see something like that? Nowhere except for the Olympics. All right,

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>we'll tell you what we're watching today. Gosh, well, we've

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 1>been watching sports climbing, which has been so fun. But

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 1>we'll watch it anytime it's on, finals or heats, whatever

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:33.959
<v Speaker 1>it is. Will take it. Men's springboard diving Americans Carson

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Tyler and Andrew Capo Bianca competing for a spot in

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the men's finals. I be's already happened, but you'll be

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>able to see a replay of it, and it's there's

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>some good news there. US women's basketball quarterfinals, the US

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 1>versus Nigeria that's at three thirty this afternoon, and the

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>ladies of Team USA on their way to seeking an

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 1>unprecedented eighth consecutive gold medal the semifinals or Friday. The

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>gold medal game is actually on the last day of

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 1>the Olympics on Sunday, so that'll be fun to watch.

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>We'll just hopefully, I don't want to assume, but let's

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>hope that the American women will be in that final

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>in the bag. A lot going on track and field,

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 1>the one hundred ten meter hurdle semi finals, where we

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>have a favorite to win a medal. He's an American

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 1>three time world champ, Tokyo silver medalist, Grant Holloway. He'll

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 1>be competing. That's this afternoon. Lots of multiple track and

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 1>field events throughout the day, so we'll be very occupied.

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Synchronized swimming, artistics, swimming. The team finals are at one

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 1>thirty this afternoon, and Team USA is looking good. Yesterday

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>we were just behind China, so that is something to

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 1>definitely take a look at. And we watched the mixed

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 1>marathon walk relay this morning and there is such a

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>great moment when the winning country crosses the finish line there. Yes,

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>you have to watch it with the backdrop of the

0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Eiffel Tower, champagne going everywhere. It was really celebratory and

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>fun and you were just it was it was fun

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>to watch. I really really enjoyed that Men's Beach Volleyball

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>USA takes on Cutter Qatar. How you say that? At

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 1>four pm today when I was at NBC News, we

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:17.760
<v Speaker 1>said cutter. Now I think everyone says qatar. The aato

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>tomato playing the US is playing at four pm today

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 1>and oh my goodness, we're so excited. Men's park skateboarding.

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>So our guys are competing actually right now as we're

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>recording this. Gavin Botger and Tom shar that's who we

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:33.919
<v Speaker 1>spoke to. If you haven't heard our interview with them,

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>please check it out. It's a couple podcasts ago. But

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 1>they talked to us just before they started competing. The heat.

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:43.760
<v Speaker 1>The heat's already going on right now, but the finals

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 1>are at eleven thirty a m. This morning.

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:47.919
<v Speaker 2>I love this park.

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all in one day, they're knocking it all out

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 1>and then this is cool on Team Great Britain. He's

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:58.919
<v Speaker 1>an American, but he's competing for a Great Britain. He's

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:02.319
<v Speaker 1>fifty one years yars old. He is competing in park

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 1>skateboarding amongst teenagers. Like this is a sport where it's

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:09.839
<v Speaker 1>known for its youth in fact China, he's he's from

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<v Speaker 1>he is American, but he's he's competing for Team Great Britain.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I say that because we're watching it live and

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a guy with a skateboard like.

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<v Speaker 1>He's fifty one years I didn't think he was a competitor.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a week okay, had to be And.

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<v Speaker 1>There China has an eleven year old competing in this

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<v Speaker 1>exact same event. So there is going to be an

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<v Speaker 1>eleven year old competing against a fifty one year old

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<v Speaker 1>and for that in and of itself, I'm watching and

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<v Speaker 1>I had to look it up because I was confused.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no minimum age to compete in surfing or skateboarding events,

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<v Speaker 1>so if you're a surfer or a skateboarder, you can

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<v Speaker 1>be as young as you want to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess apparently as old as you want to be

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<v Speaker 2>and as old.

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<v Speaker 1>As you want to be. Olympic gymnasts have to be

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen by the way to compete, and boxers have to

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<v Speaker 1>be eighteen, but boxers also can't be over the age

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<v Speaker 1>of forty. So some sports have very specific age requirements,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love that skateboarding has none, so an eleven

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<v Speaker 1>year old, We'll go up against a fifty one year.

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<v Speaker 2>Old And I'm sorry, I only pointed to you because

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<v Speaker 2>our boy is coming up, Gavin Gavin. But we just

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<v Speaker 2>love seventeen year old. Isn't he ranked number one in

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<v Speaker 2>the world.

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<v Speaker 1>He is, and he's seventeen years old and chill.

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<v Speaker 2>And there he goes. We talk to this guy the

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<v Speaker 2>other day as we were talking to you, we are

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<v Speaker 2>watching him lie perform at the Olympics and his park

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<v Speaker 2>run in the prelimbs, and it's amazing that this kid

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<v Speaker 2>is seventeen years old. To see him doing what he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing right now, we all have a dog in the

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<v Speaker 2>fight when he comes to the Olympics Team USA. But

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<v Speaker 2>once you get to talk to somebody, and once we

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<v Speaker 2>spend a little time with him and getting to know

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<v Speaker 2>his personality, I feel myself rooting for this dude harder

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<v Speaker 2>than I'm root it for anybody that I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just doing it for the passion and love of

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<v Speaker 1>the sport and nothing else, and they're remarkable at it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, these guys don't have coaches. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just this is what they love to do, and

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<v Speaker 1>they do it all day long. He gets home school. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that was remarkable. He doesn't go to high school, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for high school. He goes to homeschool because this is

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<v Speaker 1>his this is what he does as often and as

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<v Speaker 1>long as he can in southern California where the weather

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<v Speaker 1>makes it do.

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<v Speaker 2>And he just made a great run. So glad you

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<v Speaker 2>stuck around with us for that little ding. We just

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<v Speaker 2>watched him.

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<v Speaker 1>His family cheering in the All right, y'all, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for listening to us each and every day. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to keep bringing it to you. Tomorrow you'll get more

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