Speaker 1: It's nine oh gene one engine with Jenny Garth and
Speaker 1: Tory spelling.
Speaker 2: Hi be new Year. It's new Year on nine oh
Speaker 2: two one.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's nineteen ninety six. You guys.
Speaker 2: But they really, they really like accentuated.
Speaker 1: This is such an exciting episode we have to talk about.
Speaker 1: But first I want to show you something. Amy. Have
Speaker 1: we talked about. I think we've talked about the Tom's Guide.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we just talked about it. Okay, it
Speaker 1: wasn't like it was like a week or two ago
Speaker 1: in the back of my mom's car. Stop it.
Speaker 2: No. First of all, I love that it says Carol
Speaker 2: and g so she knows it's hers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she doesn't want anybody to steal this. And then it's.
Speaker 2: Born in two thousand, two thousand, you know, it would
Speaker 2: be weird. I wonder, like, in twenty twenty five, how
Speaker 2: many things have changed.
Speaker 1: I can't even find my house in this, Like my
Speaker 1: address doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet there's entirely new freeways.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this is the smell of it. Listen
Speaker 1: to those pages. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: You know what it makes me think of in speed
Speaker 2: when the freeway is not finished? Uh huh, it's like
Speaker 2: I've got the freeway in that is maybe not finished,
Speaker 2: the one oh five. It's so it's like I couldn't
Speaker 2: even begin to understand what that is saying.
Speaker 1: Look, you have to cross coordinate, you have to find
Speaker 1: your address, and you have to cross coordinate and go
Speaker 1: to the map page and then go to a eight
Speaker 1: and then you find you It's so fever forget.
Speaker 2: So I was in college and I went on a
Speaker 2: trip with my college boyfriend to New Mexico. So first
Speaker 2: of all, I went on a plane, which I don't do.
Speaker 2: So I already yeah, I was already a little out
Speaker 2: of sorts. And then he hands me a map to
Speaker 2: get to the hotel, like a foldyouty one yet and
Speaker 2: I'm holding the map and I cannot figure out what
Speaker 2: it's saying. So I start to turn it, and he's,
Speaker 2: oh my god, never turn the map.
Speaker 1: And I really know.
Speaker 2: I think if you turn the map, you're just like
Speaker 2: not going You're just totally going up down.
Speaker 1: Then at that point, I don't know. I am a
Speaker 1: map reader. I love reading maps. It's something weird about me,
Speaker 1: but I have a whole thing for maps in my heart.
Speaker 2: Do enjoy the overview, do you know what the overview
Speaker 2: is like on your map on your phone. If you
Speaker 2: click like the overview, you can sort of see where
Speaker 2: you are and where your final destination is, as opposed
Speaker 2: to the turn by turn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I need to challenge and challenge
Speaker 1: all of us to stop using our navigations just for
Speaker 1: like a day, and try using your brain to get
Speaker 1: where you need to go.
Speaker 2: No, my problem too, is like street names mean nothing
Speaker 2: to me, Like yeah, No, my problem is like when
Speaker 2: people are like, take Maraga Road and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't know which one that is?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: By Roundtable the movie theater CBS, Like you.
Speaker 1: Have to get a table. Wait, there's a roundtable in
Speaker 1: your neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Totally roundtable pizza. We have one in my town and
Speaker 2: the town over. It's super popular up here.
Speaker 1: I want to come over.
Speaker 2: Have you been to round table? It'll give you diarrhea,
Speaker 2: but it's really good for good going back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a ringing endorsement. I think I'll be right over.
Speaker 2: The last time I had it, I like it tasted
Speaker 2: so good going down and then just direage.
Speaker 1: All right, that's okay, We're stop that conversation right there
Speaker 1: and We're going to get back into this week's episode.
Speaker 1: Right after this, I heard podcasts listen on the iHeartRadio app. Okay,
Speaker 1: so nobody really wants to hear what happened after you
Speaker 1: ate round Table, but they do want to hear about.
Speaker 2: Look, it's not it's not about Roundtable. It's about my stomach.
Speaker 2: So please continue to go to round Table. It's not
Speaker 2: their fault. It's about the cheese and me all.
Speaker 1: Like I said, people don't want to hear about what
Speaker 1: happened to you after you ate round Table. They want
Speaker 1: to hear about Season six, episode sixteen, turn Back the Clock,
Speaker 1: aired January third, nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 2: Before I do the synopsis? Is that a creative choice
Speaker 2: to like do it in flashback?
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? You have to read thesis?
Speaker 2: Okay, new year, same drama. I'm gonna read it like
Speaker 2: I'm a professional.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Holland can't kick his holiday habit, Susan's boyfriend Baggage is
Speaker 2: not sitting well with Brandon, Steve's half brothers, Tory Smelling's
Speaker 2: brother love to pull pranks, and Donna finally puts Burdgate
Speaker 2: to bed as she finally rides the Rose Parade.
Speaker 1: Float directed by Graham Lynch, written by Larry Mullen. Wow, okay,
Speaker 1: now you can ask your question about flashbacks.
Speaker 2: So since I am a layman and you are an actor, Like,
Speaker 2: why would they make that choice rather than tell it
Speaker 2: to us in real time?
Speaker 1: Dude? I have the same question on my notes, So
Speaker 1: I got nothing for that. It's like, why, why why
Speaker 1: the flashbacks?
Speaker 2: Like why wouldn't we just tell in real time? Tell
Speaker 2: the same story.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I really have no idea that this is
Speaker 1: a Larry Mullen question.
Speaker 2: Maybe he just wanted to do something different.
Speaker 1: Maybe he just was really into those like boyes to
Speaker 1: make you go back in time in your mind, so.
Speaker 2: So silly as a whole. I enjoyed this episode toats
Speaker 2: me too. A couple questions and people can yell at me.
Speaker 2: When did we meet the boyfriend?
Speaker 1: Before? I know we talked about him. I have never
Speaker 1: seen him before in my life.
Speaker 2: Brandon at one point says, like the last time I
Speaker 2: saw you? And is that just like around school?
Speaker 1: Okay, if you don't remember, then we've never seen him.
Speaker 2: And I can't remember what the drama is between the
Speaker 2: two of them. Why, like Brandon you just don't understand.
Speaker 2: I feel like she was pregnant.
Speaker 1: I mean that would be Yeah, that would be the
Speaker 1: easy place to go with that. It's such a secret.
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I don't recall if and when
Speaker 1: we find out, and I don't recall if I care.
Speaker 2: Well, So the people just carry around files of cocaine
Speaker 2: like it's a stick of gum.
Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently so weird in those It always has to
Speaker 1: be in that little brown bottle too.
Speaker 2: Just feels like we're watching less than zero, Like it's
Speaker 2: just so weird.
Speaker 1: Hey, did you know that this was the first episode
Speaker 1: that aired in nineteen ninety six?
Speaker 2: Maybe that answers our question. Maybe that is why they
Speaker 2: did it as a flashback because it aired in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety six.
Speaker 1: And they had to go back to do New Year's
Speaker 1: because because it didn't air.
Speaker 2: In this we just solve the mystery. Yeah, they really
Speaker 2: they wanted to really be accurate. Nineteen ninety six. Let
Speaker 2: me think about what was happening. I was still in college,
Speaker 2: senior in college. What were you doing in your life?
Speaker 2: Did you have any kids?
Speaker 1: No? I think I was going through divorce number one
Speaker 1: and getting into my relationship, and I think about to
Speaker 1: get pregnant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we would know because you're going to carry
Speaker 2: a bunch of groceries and stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's for another year. Sorry, I forgot Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be next Jeria.
Speaker 1: Hey the Cores, Hello, the Corps. They are in this episode.
Speaker 2: They weren't actually really good, even though they never sang
Speaker 2: their their hit, they had a hit. They did have
Speaker 2: a hit, and I interviewed the Cores. I mean I didn't,
Speaker 2: but like I was there, they had one really big hit.
Speaker 2: But they were actually quite good singers, Like the old
Speaker 2: Lang sign was really good.
Speaker 1: Oh Breathless was their hit. They were gorgeous, by the way.
Speaker 1: These these Cores, Wow, they're Irish m hm Srish band
Speaker 1: made up of four siblings.
Speaker 2: I actually think in nineteen ninety six, if you were
Speaker 2: at a New Year's party at the Peapad and the
Speaker 2: Cores were there.
Speaker 1: You'd be pretty stoked. Yeah, for sure, I think we
Speaker 1: were stoked to be there watching it. Okay, let's break
Speaker 1: this down. Let's just start at the top. The show
Speaker 1: opens up to a newscast with our favorite Sam Rubin.
Speaker 1: I don't know if like the whole world knows Sam Rubin,
Speaker 1: but he was in La like he was it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, until he passed away in May. He was just
Speaker 2: at the top of his game. And I've worked for
Speaker 2: him for like twenty plus years, like in some capacity,
Speaker 2: and every day for the last fifteen I don't even
Speaker 2: have ten twelve. I've lost track.
Speaker 1: He is a great guy.
Speaker 2: And that was like what I couldn't figure out is
Speaker 2: if that was the actual newscast or if he did
Speaker 2: it special for nine o two and zero.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming he did. Sure she did it special. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was always around us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of the Rose Parade footage looked actually real. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that was kind of I can't wait to break
Speaker 2: that down.
Speaker 1: But yeah. So so we open up on Sam Ruben
Speaker 1: talking about the Rose Parade and then we see that
Speaker 1: Brandon and Steve are tossing out the Christmas tree, which
Speaker 1: you know means Christmas is over. Clara arrives in her Volvo.
Speaker 1: You got a Volvo? I think her dad must have
Speaker 1: bought her that. Such a dad car to get a daughter.
Speaker 2: We've even seen her Volvo before. Did I think he
Speaker 2: went on a road trip in it?
Speaker 1: Oh? Right? And did it break down at the nun
Speaker 1: with the convent? Huh? Huh okay. So she notices that
Speaker 1: Steve has a black eye and asks what happened, and
Speaker 1: Brandon begins to explain that it happened on New Year's
Speaker 1: Eve at the after dark. That's a flashback, you guys,
Speaker 1: in case you didn't know. Yea, bess, it was all
Speaker 1: pretty good, Brandon narrates, while we learned that Susan's ex boyfriend,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Casten, came back to town and Brandon and saw
Speaker 1: them kissing, So right out of the gate, we know
Speaker 1: something is bad that's happening.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a long conversation with you when we
Speaker 2: get to that kiss, because that was too odd. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like he's kissing her, but she's kissing back and pulling
Speaker 2: away at the same time.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, no, Steve says, okay. So Steve says
Speaker 1: it all started when his dad made him babysit his
Speaker 1: two younger brothers, who, hello, I didn't even know he
Speaker 1: had two younger twin brothers, Austin and Ryan, who teepeed
Speaker 1: Brandon's front yard. So this whole flashback starts super.
Speaker 2: Weird because I know two brothers named Austin and Ryan,
Speaker 2: but they are not twins, but I totally do.
Speaker 1: That's weird. Look nothing alike. I mean, I know they
Speaker 1: don't have to be identical, but even one looks a
Speaker 1: lot like Donna. One of them is played by Randy Spelling.
Speaker 2: He looks different than when he was on the two
Speaker 2: times before.
Speaker 1: He's adorable. I can't with him. He's so cute. I
Speaker 1: just remember, that's just Nice's sweet and so kind and
Speaker 1: so like respectful. What a good guy. Love you is.
Speaker 2: Such a nice, nice guy, like I can't even say
Speaker 2: it enough. Smart whol anyway, Yeah, as a twerp in
Speaker 2: this episode though, Yeah, these.
Speaker 1: Two twrps don't look related at all. So Steve's gets
Speaker 1: He's so mad at him. He's like rush on them
Speaker 1: all the whole time. He has turned into his father
Speaker 1: basically and is treating these poor kids like like Steve
Speaker 1: was always treated essentially. Yep. Brandon gets a call from
Speaker 1: Susan saying that her ex is in town. He was
Speaker 1: headed to He was headed to Tahiti, but he had
Speaker 1: a layover and will now be in La for New
Speaker 1: Year's convenient, just so bizarre. Yeah. She tries to get
Speaker 1: out of her plans with Brandon, but he will He's
Speaker 1: not having that. I mean, that is just so bizarre.
Speaker 2: Who is calling their current boyfriend to be like, on
Speaker 2: New Year's my ex is in town and then is
Speaker 2: like making a hundred punk call to.
Speaker 1: Set him up. Yeah. No, it's weird on all fronts.
Speaker 1: But I do have to say that Brandon is looking
Speaker 1: sexy and mature. Yeah, I am liking this Brandon this season.
Speaker 1: Valerie walks into the room and tells Brandon that she
Speaker 1: is happy to be with David, someone she loves on
Speaker 1: New Year's.
Speaker 2: Eve, foreshadowing a hot mess to make it all fall apart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not really a hot mess because it
Speaker 1: ends up with a kiss and a bow. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: we come out of that flashback. This is going to
Speaker 1: be so confusing for everyone. So that was a flashback.
Speaker 1: We come out of the flashback sequence and we're back
Speaker 1: at the Kassa Walsh there and Claire wants to know
Speaker 1: more about what happened. When Valerie walks into the kitchen
Speaker 1: and she tells Steve that Donna cult huh kind of
Speaker 1: sitting around the table. Yeah, they're all just like having
Speaker 1: a chat.
Speaker 2: Sort of a lot of forward backward, forward backward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it got Yeah, it's confusing, so he sets up
Speaker 1: that does something happened with the stupid bird? It flew
Speaker 1: the cop Yeah, we knew the drama with the bird.
Speaker 1: Then he tells that Claire that she's gonna be blamed
Speaker 1: for it. Was it her fault? I feel like it wasn't.
Speaker 1: In the end. Do you feel like there's any chemistry
Speaker 1: by the way between Steve and Claire in this particular episode.
Speaker 2: Bilch, except that they're buds, Like you get like, oh,
Speaker 2: these two are great pals probably in real life, like hell,
Speaker 2: but you're definitely not, like that's why their couplehood is
Speaker 2: so like unexciting in the nine two one oho like
Speaker 2: whole scheme of things, you're just like, oh, that happened whatever.
Speaker 1: Okay, So now we go back to a flashback and
Speaker 1: we see step and Claire getting busy in bed when
Speaker 1: we hear cutie Pie that's the bird talking. Claire heads
Speaker 1: down to Donna's room to ask him to quiet down
Speaker 1: the bird, and Joe says he's there struggling with the
Speaker 1: latch on the cage and uh. He asks Claire to
Speaker 1: make sure that no one accidentally lets her out, so
Speaker 1: again shout outing that up. Yeah. Back at the walls shell.
Speaker 1: Steve continues to tell the bird story when David walks
Speaker 1: in and begins to tell them what happened that night
Speaker 1: about the bird. Okay, so David, we're back in a flashback.
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I've already have whiplash.
Speaker 2: I've watched this whole episode.
Speaker 1: Confused. I'm so confused. How do you even do a
Speaker 1: flashback rewatch episode? You guys, this is impossible. Okay, so
Speaker 1: we're back. We're going into another flashback, that's all in. Okay.
Speaker 1: So David approaches Valerie at the party at Colin's party
Speaker 1: and basically tells her that he doesn't like the way
Speaker 1: she's nambling with the koke. Heeads and he grabs her arm.
Speaker 1: Do you see the way he grabbed her arm? So rough? Like,
Speaker 1: I don't like that, sad?
Speaker 2: Are we at a pre party at call? I was like,
Speaker 2: where am I now? Okay, so we're at some sort
Speaker 2: of a pre party and yes, he's like, don't hang
Speaker 2: with the cokettes. But then everything was fixed real quick.
Speaker 2: Then they were kissing. Yeah, it was like she's basically like,
Speaker 2: I'm not with the cokedes. Okay, make out.
Speaker 1: And we see Susan tel Brandon that she's trying to
Speaker 1: find her exedate for New Year's Eve? Why why why?
Speaker 1: And don't say you'd never understand, right, that's her boyfriend.
Speaker 1: You should probably explain it to him. We see Colin
Speaker 1: give Valerie a vial of coke so Kelly doesn't catch
Speaker 1: him with it, and then we see Kelly walk in
Speaker 1: to the party with Donna, and she clocks val and
Speaker 1: Colin a little too close for comfort, and she tells
Speaker 1: Valerie thanks for keeping him warm, and starts frisking Colin
Speaker 1: for drugs. The frisking I totally.
Speaker 2: I was so because Donna says something like they don't
Speaker 2: even know you're here or some kind of something, and
Speaker 2: I'm like.
Speaker 1: What is happening? She frisked him. I mean it was playful,
Speaker 1: but she was like looking in his pockets for his drugs.
Speaker 1: Good thing he had just given them to beow.
Speaker 2: Hello God, why doesn't he keep him in a medicine cabinet?
Speaker 1: Like what an idiot? I hate the Koch storyline.
Speaker 2: It's like, this drug addict needs to get out of here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's bad, it's bad, Okay. So then we go
Speaker 1: to the this is so confusing.
Speaker 2: The pad, the tree back to the Walshes.
Speaker 1: When we go to the b Pad and we see
Speaker 1: that the night has started out great and the cores
Speaker 1: are performing. You're forgiven, not forgotten. Oh that that song
Speaker 1: is stuck in my head? Now forgiven, not forgotten. You
Speaker 1: got it, you hear it.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get in my head as much as
Speaker 2: Old Lang Sign, which I believe Old Laying Sign is
Speaker 2: one of those songs that is free, like do you
Speaker 2: know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you don't have to pay happy to use it.
Speaker 1: His Happy Birthday and Old ag Sign is the ones
Speaker 1: that you can you can use. I was like, let's
Speaker 1: get that in there. Well, we already probably paid a
Speaker 1: pretty penny for the course, so you know. We see Jonathan,
Speaker 1: Susan's ex walk into the bar and pull up a
Speaker 1: chair and sit next to Susan and Brandon, and Jonathan
Speaker 1: tells Brandon that he enjoys his columns. I don't think
Speaker 1: I believe him. It was so weird. It's just weird.
Speaker 1: The whole thing's weird. He's kind of hot, though I
Speaker 1: did not think so. I thought he was. I liked
Speaker 1: his like kind of fassy attitude. Yeah. Then we go,
Speaker 1: Then we go and we see that David. During this time,
Speaker 1: David is helping Donna get the damn bird back after
Speaker 1: it flew up into a tree. He's way up in there,
Speaker 1: and it's still like squawking. Joe loves Donna. Joe loves Donna.
Speaker 2: Lam bird, damn bird, that bird. I know why this
Speaker 2: is a storyline.
Speaker 1: I don't either.
Speaker 2: Then, to get rid of the bird is why they
Speaker 2: had to figure out how to get rid of it.
Speaker 1: They had to get it lost. Yeah, back to the flashbacks.
Speaker 1: Now at the peach Pit after dark, Steve is furious
Speaker 1: when he spots his younger half brothers inside the club
Speaker 1: making a ruckus.
Speaker 2: SE's so mad because they're underage or because he didn't
Speaker 2: want to hang out with them. It was like, I
Speaker 2: didn't get all.
Speaker 1: Of the above, but that let them in, which I
Speaker 1: don't think Nat will do because.
Speaker 2: He thought they were cag brothers. Oh and is it
Speaker 2: an eighteen and overclub? Is it a twenty one and
Speaker 2: over club? I don't know any what the age deal
Speaker 2: is on the Peaty either.
Speaker 1: We see a girl slapping one of them for being
Speaker 1: Handy's getting fresh. They're so cute. And then I loved
Speaker 1: Randy's line He's like, Okay, see you in a few years.
Speaker 1: He's so cute. Steve tells his brothers to go home
Speaker 1: and go to bed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a lot of lines, as you would say,
Speaker 2: not talking. I'm like, he had a lot of talking.
Speaker 2: He had a lot of lines in this one compared
Speaker 2: to his previous appearances.
Speaker 1: So that was exciting.
Speaker 2: Probably got paid a little a little bit more randy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then we cut to Jonathan telling Brandon the real
Speaker 1: reason he's in town, that he's in love with Susan
Speaker 1: and he wants her back, and he says there is
Speaker 1: a bond between them and Brandon is irrelevant. Ouch, that's
Speaker 1: like the ultimate f you to say to someone you
Speaker 1: know what you're irrelevant is?
Speaker 2: Wait, now, all of a sudden, I just had a
Speaker 2: weird moment that like, she ends up with this guy.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't want to give a spoiler thirty
Speaker 2: years later, but like, whoa, I had a weird premonition
Speaker 2: of that. Would you do it that way? Like if
Speaker 2: you're trying to get the girl back, wouldn't you just
Speaker 2: go to the girl? Like would you tell the boyfriend
Speaker 2: I'm here.
Speaker 1: To well maybe he's, you know, trying to cause friction
Speaker 1: in their relationship. Oh right, kind of see smart move true.
Speaker 1: The clock strikes twelve, and everybody starts making out except
Speaker 1: for Sad Valerie. But Sad Valerie looks amazing. I just
Speaker 1: want to say, I'm so into this whole look like
Speaker 1: she looks like an opera singer or like a madam,
Speaker 1: or like she's gonna star in Chicago. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I love the hair and everything about it.
Speaker 2: I just want to call her Sad Valerie.
Speaker 1: Though, yeah, she's sad in this episode.
Speaker 2: But then it all works out, no problem, all great,
Speaker 2: everything's great.
Speaker 1: As soon as the cry. As soon as the clock
Speaker 1: strikes twelve, Kelly says goodbye to Colin because she has
Speaker 1: to wake up early to help Donna get ready for
Speaker 1: the Rose Parade. I found that a little weird, like
Speaker 1: would Kelly just get herself home, Like shouldn't her boyfriend, Like, yes,
Speaker 1: he's staying there at a party.
Speaker 2: Donally, since he's a drug addict and she knows it,
Speaker 2: but he says I'll take you, and then she says no,
Speaker 2: and then he just does so much drugs that he's
Speaker 2: a spats.
Speaker 1: He goes right for the drugs as soon as she's
Speaker 1: out of sight. Yeah, just so much Czar and I
Speaker 1: also didn't understand, like why are Val and Colin such
Speaker 1: good friends now? Like why is Val taking care of.
Speaker 2: Him back still from camp and that she loves him
Speaker 2: deep down somewhere, But I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1: This so frustrating to me.
Speaker 2: It's just like, dude, dump this guy. Just be like,
Speaker 2: you're you do so much coke? That's not my bag
Speaker 2: bye mm hmm. But you're like hanging on knowing he
Speaker 2: does coke. Jenny Kelly not totally happy with you either.
Speaker 2: You should be like, dude, fuck it off, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really do not see how this is going
Speaker 1: to progress into Kelly having a drug problem. I don't
Speaker 1: get ready. I don't see how what Like why Kelly
Speaker 1: of all people.
Speaker 2: Correct because it's kind of stupid. Yeah, in rehab in
Speaker 2: three weeks. You're gonna be in rehabing three weeks. But
Speaker 2: my thing is like, if you're so against it, why
Speaker 2: would you tolerate it? You would be like, hey, Colin,
Speaker 2: you're great, go live your life and do your drugs.
Speaker 1: I'm not playing well. She does say that. Later, she says,
Speaker 1: I picked my mom up off the floor, right did
Speaker 1: the same for you.
Speaker 2: But then then he went to the Rose Parade, didn't he?
Speaker 2: And no, maybe he didn't.
Speaker 1: We'll have to refresh my memory.
Speaker 2: Okay, because yesterday I feels so long ago.
Speaker 1: When I you, guys, wait, Jonathan starts kissing Susan. This
Speaker 1: is the kiss you want to talk about. He's saying
Speaker 1: goodbye right in front of Brandon, and Brandon just stands
Speaker 1: there like a tool, and Susan is sort of the weirdest, like,
Speaker 1: don't kiss me, but I'm kissing you back. He's literally
Speaker 1: kissing him back but pushing him. That must have been
Speaker 1: really hard to act, Like, yeah, I felt like she
Speaker 1: got direction that was you're going to need to kiss
Speaker 1: him and push him off at the same time.
Speaker 2: And I think that we have did. Was this the
Speaker 2: first time we saw the kiss or was there a
Speaker 2: flash forward to the kiss in the.
Speaker 1: Episode earlier, but now we see it really happening.
Speaker 2: That seems like that flash forward was a different kiss.
Speaker 2: It felt longer in the flash forward. I was like,
Speaker 2: am I this episode is so exhausting?
Speaker 1: It really is. But I was very upset with Brandon
Speaker 1: for just standing there like that.
Speaker 2: What I would tell everyone listening and don't don't stop
Speaker 2: the podcast, but it's better to watch it than listen
Speaker 2: to us try to talk about it, because I'm even.
Speaker 1: Like, we're like back and forth, back and forth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds awful when we're talking about it, but
Speaker 2: it's actually kind of a good.
Speaker 1: Episode, you know what. I'm going to keep going anyway.
Speaker 1: We cut out of the flashbacks and Brandon tells his
Speaker 1: friend he's mad that he lets Jonathan get to him
Speaker 1: like that. So we're back in the kitchen. I don't
Speaker 1: know where we are, I mean, I can't remember. Valerie
Speaker 1: tells Brandon to call Susan, and Brandon says it's on
Speaker 1: her to call him. It's right.
Speaker 2: We're back at the wallsh house, around the table or whatever, okay,
Speaker 2: and the brothers are like, Valerie, you're so hot.
Speaker 1: Yet around now? Okay? Then we are going back to
Speaker 1: our flashbacks, you guys. Steve realizes that his little brothers
Speaker 1: put shaving cream all over his car as revenge for
Speaker 1: getting them kicked out of the party. Which where did
Speaker 1: they get to shaving cream?
Speaker 2: And then he just runs around crazy.
Speaker 1: Kind of liked it. I really like that Steve, Like
Speaker 1: he's so funny. And then he gets hit in the eye,
Speaker 1: and so that's how he got the black black guy.
Speaker 2: And then he gets a hose, which I was a
Speaker 2: little bit like, is this gonna.
Speaker 1: Hurt the paint? But okay, where does he get the
Speaker 1: hose and the pea pad? Okay, I don't know why
Speaker 1: they have a hose. But that's when we see and
Speaker 1: come out and he's high a kite god. He starts
Speaker 1: kissing random people, including Valerie, and she of course offers
Speaker 1: to take him home. That's when David shows up and
Speaker 1: he's looking for Valerie and Nat tells.
Speaker 2: Him that she just left with Colin Hunt Dull.
Speaker 1: And David says that he had been stuck at the
Speaker 1: police checkpoint. So now we know what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: We cut the Valerie Colin at a police checkpoint. The
Speaker 1: cops let them go, But that was dramatic. He's so stupid,
Speaker 1: he laughs, because his sash was right there the whole time.
Speaker 2: The what are those called ashtrays? In the ash tray?
Speaker 2: I don't even think cars have ashtrays anymore. One of
Speaker 2: my cars is old enough that it has a lighter.
Speaker 2: Do cars still come with Do new cars come with lighters?
Speaker 2: I think so, But First of all, can you imagine
Speaker 2: smoking in a car and dumping the ash into the
Speaker 2: ash tray and then just living in the car.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 2: Wads of gum into your car.
Speaker 1: But stinkier, way stinkier. I really did like those like
Speaker 1: little you know those. It was like the thing you
Speaker 1: push in the lighter the car push and then it
Speaker 1: pops out and then you look at it and it's
Speaker 1: like flaming hot coils. Like I have always been tempted
Speaker 1: to just stick my finger in there, have you? I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: It looks like goes into that as my cell phone
Speaker 2: charger now, so I have like an adapter for my
Speaker 2: cell phone that goes into that thing, and that's why
Speaker 2: I charged myself.
Speaker 1: I just think that was a genius invention. Whoever came
Speaker 1: up with the car lighter do icky tray.
Speaker 2: It's just got me shook because I never thought about
Speaker 2: that before.
Speaker 1: I've never smoked. Have you ever smoked? Yeah, I've smoked
Speaker 1: other people's, like, I've never been to like buy my own.
Speaker 1: I had never. It was in the nineties, you guys.
Speaker 1: I never bought my own cigarettes.
Speaker 2: Taking a drag or a cigarette.
Speaker 1: On the set. Everybody smoked so it was always like, hey,
Speaker 1: can I bumb a cigarette? Or you know, like everybody,
Speaker 1: if you didn't smoke on our set, you just weren't cool.
Speaker 2: I've never smoked a cigarette in my life. I've never
Speaker 2: had it to my lips. I've never had a cuff.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't even. I can't sty all
Speaker 2: these smokers.
Speaker 1: Keep it up, you'll die. But you can't say you can.
Speaker 1: You just said keep.
Speaker 2: It up, you'll die. I'm telling people they need to
Speaker 2: understand the truth. Smoking is terrible, and it says so
Speaker 2: everywhere the Surgeon General is true.
Speaker 1: It's like really bad. So I've ever seen cigarette cartons
Speaker 1: in the in Europe. You've never been to Europe because
Speaker 1: you don't go on airplanes. Only only got as far
Speaker 1: as New Mexico. No, I went to New York once. Okay,
Speaker 1: what on the cigarette cartons when you buy them overseas?
Speaker 1: Is that what they say these days over the seas
Speaker 1: on the back of the curtain. It's like horrific imagery
Speaker 1: that they put on there of like dead people, dead people,
Speaker 1: dead babies, people with like deformities. Pictures they're like lungs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they're really trying to do something about it.
Speaker 2: But marijuana like smoking a cigarette, Like should you like, okay,
Speaker 2: say you want to use marijuana, should you just use
Speaker 2: like gummies because then you don't want to be smoking?
Speaker 1: Are you asking for a friend? Really? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it's the same. I think smoking the joint
Speaker 1: is the same. You're inhaling like toxic fumes into your luggage.
Speaker 2: I feel like I was just watching something where someone
Speaker 2: was smoking a cigar.
Speaker 1: They say that that's not as bad for you because
Speaker 1: you don't inhale cigars like you just you do. You
Speaker 1: just like it. You put in your mouth and then
Speaker 1: you puff it out. You don't in the hand into
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, what show was I watching where they had
Speaker 2: a cigar? I mean literally?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: I think it was Will Ferrell. I watched that Will
Speaker 2: Ferrell documentary. Excellent, by the way. I cried, cried, cried
Speaker 2: so good.
Speaker 1: Oh I got to watch that.
Speaker 2: It's actually really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I watched Wolf's also. Sorry you know that George
Speaker 2: cliney Brad Pitt thing.
Speaker 1: Thing not great?
Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, Brad, I literally love you both so much,
Speaker 2: But anyway, continue that's sad. Yeah, but watch it. Everybody
Speaker 2: watched it and tell me what you think, because maybe
Speaker 2: I just have a bad opinion.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're so off. That's target.
Speaker 2: I'm happy about it because this episode is selling me.
Speaker 1: We didn't confuse people before, we've really thrown them now
Speaker 1: because we've been talking about cigarette smoking, and then pot smoking,
Speaker 1: and then cigar smoking, and then the movies that you've
Speaker 1: seen this weekend.
Speaker 2: Wait, was someone smoking in this episode?
Speaker 1: Thinking of add I'm sure was.
Speaker 2: Someone smoking this week in this episode? Or straight just
Speaker 2: because we'd start talking about ashtrays. Yeah, that just that's it.
Speaker 2: The cooke was in the ashtray.
Speaker 1: Claire tells Donna that she's sorry about the bird, but
Speaker 1: that she didn't let him out, and Donna starts telling
Speaker 1: them what happened with the bird. Okay, so we go
Speaker 1: back in a flashback now and we see that Joe
Speaker 1: is obsessed like it's getting kind of weird.
Speaker 2: Yes, I have a comment on this. My precious Joe
Speaker 2: would never behave this way. He would behave how he
Speaker 2: did at the end of the episode with the Joe
Speaker 2: Loves Donna. He would have never acted this way. And
Speaker 2: the night before her big day, no way.
Speaker 1: No, he wouldn't have kept her up late looking for birds.
Speaker 2: Right, come on, Larry. I love you, Larry Mullen, but
Speaker 2: that is that doesn't track for me. Joe is an angel.
Speaker 1: He would not.
Speaker 2: He would be like, Donna get your beauty rest. I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna look for the bird.
Speaker 1: I'm not even mad.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna look for the bird for a second.
Speaker 2: If I can't find the bird, it's okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then they get into an argument, I think,
Speaker 1: like their first argument in Joe leaves to keep looking
Speaker 1: for the damn.
Speaker 2: Bird, and it was so stupid because those two would
Speaker 2: never get in an argument like that.
Speaker 1: Stupid. Then we go into a flashback at Collin's house
Speaker 1: where Kelly goes to pick him up for the Rose
Speaker 1: Parade early. This has got to be at like four
Speaker 1: in the morning. You guys five and.
Speaker 2: Thember talk about your outfit for the Rose Parade.
Speaker 1: Which that outfit it's like the worst color on her too,
Speaker 1: totally wash her up so bizarrely. And I've been to
Speaker 1: the Rose Parade. It's cold, you guys, it's colder. You
Speaker 1: go in layers, you don't wear a suit.
Speaker 2: You would have been wearing cute jeans, a cozy sweater,
Speaker 2: a little.
Speaker 1: Beanie doesn't get any sense that suit was so rambo
Speaker 1: a call out for the wardrobe department. So she finds
Speaker 1: out that he's messed up and that this is where
Speaker 1: she says, you know what, I picked up my mother
Speaker 1: off the floor and I'm not going to do the
Speaker 1: same for you, and she leaves him there. He say,
Speaker 1: I'm going miit. He's not. He's not going. He's terrible.
Speaker 1: Then we go to a flashback at the Condor, which
Speaker 1: I don't even want to do. Brandon tells everyone he
Speaker 1: went to work at the Condor after trying to call Susan,
Speaker 1: but that she was nowhere to be found.
Speaker 2: When he gets in, who's he doozy there?
Speaker 1: Oh? I don't know. He sees Susan and who'sy doozy? Jonathan?
Speaker 1: They're there together, and then they say they're going to
Speaker 1: see an old friend together and Jonathan apologizes, but Brandon's
Speaker 1: still upset.
Speaker 2: Brandon's typing angry typing. He's standing over a computer hunting
Speaker 2: and packing typing.
Speaker 1: So he's not type type typing. He's tight type tight type.
Speaker 1: That's angry typing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, what are you doing on that computer?
Speaker 1: I think that this is very confusing, Like just tell
Speaker 1: us what is their big deal connection? Where are they
Speaker 1: going to see a friend? So now there's a friend
Speaker 1: involved in their connection.
Speaker 2: She's like, or he says he really wants to see
Speaker 2: you too, and she's like, okay, you go like, what
Speaker 2: what is happening?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, and then we go we have a flashback
Speaker 1: to the Rose Parade where Valerie gives Kelly Collins vial
Speaker 1: of coke to prove that he is an addict.
Speaker 2: Or are you all at the Rose Parade? I have
Speaker 2: to know, right was that?
Speaker 1: Really? I don't remember? I would remember, and she's not here,
Speaker 1: so she'll.
Speaker 2: Be back next week, so we do have to ask her.
Speaker 2: Maybe somebody text her. So there was footage of the
Speaker 2: Rose Parade that was definitely the Rose Parade. Then we
Speaker 2: see the princesses, the queens whatever, they.
Speaker 1: Float looking so beautiful. They're like that waving, waving, like
Speaker 1: was that in the Rose Parade?
Speaker 2: And maybe they're just like, hey, everybody, we're filming nine
Speaker 2: O two and O. Now, I in my mind, I thought,
Speaker 2: okay for the filming of you all in stands, that's
Speaker 2: not that seemed like not real that you just went
Speaker 2: to a stadium and one section was filled with people,
Speaker 2: but the Rose Parade looked very real. Sorry, I'm popping
Speaker 2: my peas there every time I say.
Speaker 1: All right, I think that you're right. It was half real,
Speaker 1: half not real. Why was Kelly sitting next to Valerie
Speaker 1: at the parade though happenstance? I don't know? Is that
Speaker 1: the you know, it doesn't make sense. That's so frustrating.
Speaker 2: And also let's talk about the fact that she's carrying
Speaker 2: around cocaine just to give it back to Kelly and
Speaker 2: now you're.
Speaker 1: Stuck with it.
Speaker 2: I would be like, I'm not taking that, touching that right,
Speaker 2: Like what are these people doing? And I think that's
Speaker 2: the that's the vial that takes you down, because.
Speaker 1: That's how you are. Like, I guess I'll try this,
Speaker 1: like nobody's doing that. No, okay. This is where we
Speaker 1: also see Joe back to being Joe in the stands
Speaker 1: with a big sign that says his Dan bird. So
Speaker 1: he's trying to like make up for being such an idiot.
Speaker 2: But he never should have had to make up for anything,
Speaker 2: because Joe would have never gotten in a fight. He
Speaker 2: would have never done that.
Speaker 1: Can I just see you wave like you're on the float?
Speaker 1: I want to see your princess wave very good. Yours
Speaker 1: is more of a this. Mine's more like a turn.
Speaker 1: And you can't do it up here. It can never
Speaker 1: be above the tier.
Speaker 2: Because then he would have the wiggily arms.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to be down here. Yeah. And if
Speaker 1: you're sweaty on the parade, nobody needs to see like
Speaker 1: your sweaty pits. Keep it tight.
Speaker 2: Let me talk about something really fast. It's also a sidebar.
Speaker 2: Are you watching Golden Bachelorette.
Speaker 1: I tried, I kept getting interrupted, but I told you
Speaker 1: to watch it. It's really good. It's really good. I
Speaker 1: saw the part where they sing the song take take
Speaker 1: Me Home. I don't remember.
Speaker 2: But these poor old guys are so sweaty every single
Speaker 2: I need.
Speaker 1: To text Bennett. I need to text my friend. They're
Speaker 1: really excited.
Speaker 2: I need to text my friend who produces The Bachelor
Speaker 2: and be like, dude, these get these old guys a
Speaker 2: towel or back off the lights because they're all sweating.
Speaker 2: I've never seen it so much sweat. Yeah, wait until
Speaker 2: episode two. I just finished it last night.
Speaker 1: I have to finish it.
Speaker 2: I think we're on episode three. I think we're behind.
Speaker 2: I'm watching it on Hulu.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Okay, this is not a Golden Bachelor rewatch,
Speaker 1: but it's a great podcast episode for everyone listening.
Speaker 2: They are enjoying this immensely because I am, because I
Speaker 2: love it so much. But now I'm hungry how much more.
Speaker 1: You are like a child today? I just need you
Speaker 1: to go take your medication. I'm really trying you, guys. Okay,
Speaker 1: out of the flashbacks and inside the wash kitchen, Rush
Speaker 1: calls and the boys begs Steve not to tell their
Speaker 1: dad all the bad things that they have done, and
Speaker 1: Steve shows mercy on them and puts them out to
Speaker 1: do the yard work. That was cute. That was cute.
Speaker 1: That was cute.
Speaker 2: Now I have a flag on the yard work. I've
Speaker 2: never seen that angle of the yard before at all.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, where did we shoot this?
Speaker 1: We was in the front yard of the backyard.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, because it was they in the backyard, correct,
Speaker 2: Because there's suddenly a pergola, kind of a weird pergola,
Speaker 2: and you're all sipping what.
Speaker 1: Looks like that was the backyard. That was the real
Speaker 1: backyard of that house. Yeah. Yeah, because I think we
Speaker 1: have I think we have Donna's wedding there or somebody's
Speaker 1: wedding is in that backyard. Okay, okay, maybe Kelly and Brandon's.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I have no idea. Susan shows
Speaker 1: up and asks Brandon for forgiveness, and she says that
Speaker 1: Jonathan left back to Chicago, so now she can pay
Speaker 1: attention to her boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Here is my impression of the director for Susan as
Speaker 2: she enters the scene, looks super MOPy, looks so MOPy,
Speaker 2: because MOPy as you've ever looked in your whole life
Speaker 2: and look kind of real.
Speaker 1: So sad and MOPy hunched over and MOPy. She did,
Speaker 1: she did, she did a good job. Then but Brandon
Speaker 1: says he forgives her, and then they make out, and
Speaker 1: they make out so aggressively. I can't I don't understand it.
Speaker 2: So because I was like, wow, it's almost like he
Speaker 2: wrestles them during the makeouts, like you're just a lot
Speaker 2: of movement.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's exhausting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds my neck.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's why my next messed up. That's why I
Speaker 1: have TMJ. It's all because of the way Brandon. Totally.
Speaker 2: I have a friend who I won't name great.
Speaker 1: I love him.
Speaker 2: He's a great guy that was on the Bachelor that okay.
Speaker 2: He is like a big guy and when he hugs you,
Speaker 2: it at it's so bear huggy that it actually hurts.
Speaker 2: And I thought I would crack a rib. So I
Speaker 2: almost can't hug him ever again because I have like
Speaker 2: so much I'm so afraid of it. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: know people out there. Public service. Let's be careful of
Speaker 2: our backs, our ribs, our necks.
Speaker 1: When whilst making out. You guys, that's the end of
Speaker 1: the episode. I need a nap.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 1: It was really really fun to watch, really really not
Speaker 1: fun to rewatch on this podcast.
Speaker 2: I want you to know I've loved this podcast.
Speaker 1: You've loved every moment of it.
Speaker 2: I really want to just do a podcast where I
Speaker 2: tell people, like what I'm watching on television?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Amy, Like, maybe when.
Speaker 2: We finish this, would you do that podcast with.
Speaker 1: Me where we you just talk about nonsense things that
Speaker 1: do nothing and have no relation to the thing before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that idea.
Speaker 2: Trist you people listening, please send messages on Instagram because
Speaker 2: I don't know how to read dms. I only know
Speaker 2: how to read the messages that come up on Instagram comments.
Speaker 1: On the comments, yeah, okay, okay, leave us a comment,
Speaker 1: thank you. I like to hear Amy rambling about nonsensical things.
Speaker 1: After our tenth season of OMG.
Speaker 2: Raise your hand if you're happy that Tory will be
Speaker 2: back next week? Me me, me, yes, we're soa And
Speaker 2: why do you give this episode a ten?
Speaker 1: It was so good. I didn't like the squiggly things,
Speaker 1: but in the you know, but I really enjoyed like
Speaker 1: the storytelling and going back and forth. I thought it
Speaker 1: was fun.
Speaker 2: But you can't give this podcast a ten? The episode
Speaker 2: eight eight point seven?
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, yeah? What's next week? Next week we have
Speaker 1: episode seventeen, fade in, fade Out. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that's about me either. I neither Kelly does drugs?
Speaker 2: Really soon though, everybody really soon?
Speaker 1: Happy New Year, happ happy everybody. We could have sing old.
Speaker 2: We could totally sing you all old length signed and
Speaker 2: we wouldn't have to pay for it.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the word.
Speaker 2: Y'all acquaintance be forgot something something old length?
Speaker 1: We should sing more. Okay, bye you guys, Sorry about
Speaker 1: this episode.
Speaker 2: Love you