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Speaker 1: for the NA World Tour. Welcome back to another edition

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Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan

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Speaker 1: Hanss and I am joined by a room filled with heroes.

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Speaker 1: These mikes are terrible. How how many billions? How many billions?

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Speaker 1: Hands is here, joined by a room filled with heroes,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Wesling, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up, boys,

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Speaker 1: Hey Dan, I'm in a bad mood now. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: he's got all of his money guaranteed. He's one of

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Speaker 1: the highest paid receivers in the league. Uh, it's great,

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Speaker 1: and he's playing at a very high level. He he

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Speaker 1: seems like someone who would retire if he's now the

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Speaker 1: eight teenth best receiver in the league or whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: But he's still one of the top guys in terms

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Speaker 1: of receptions every year, So why not keep playing? Time

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Speaker 1: talked about him at to your point, West is recruiting

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Speaker 1: potential quarterbacks, and they don't have a single quarterback on

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Speaker 1: our contract. They don't need to get one, they need

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Speaker 1: to get two or three. Draft one, get a veteran. Finally,

435
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Speaker 1: so welcome back, Larry. The football is better with by

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Speaker 1: the way, it is Ron Wolfley. I've looked it up.

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Speaker 1: He is. Greg was dead on about that good wolf.

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Speaker 1: Your wolf radar is impeccable. Is he is? He part

439
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Speaker 1: of our top five? Ron Wolfley who once said if

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Speaker 1: it's you know, listening, like second in one and you

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Speaker 1: need a yard, I'll get you a yard. That second

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Speaker 1: and two and you need two yards, I'll get you

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Speaker 1: a yard. Suah Cravens, the Redskins safety picked in the

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Speaker 1: second round of two thousand sixteen draft. Uh, he was

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Speaker 1: not on the radar in the NFL last season because

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Speaker 1: he left the team citing UH some injuries, including ongoing

447
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Speaker 1: concussion issues, and had been reportedly contemplating retirement. Well, he

448
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Speaker 1: wants to come back, and the NFL reinstated Craven's off

449
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Speaker 1: the reserve left squad list UH for Washington. However, Greg,

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Speaker 1: that does not mean that he will be back back

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Speaker 1: with the Redskins. Quite the contrary. Actually, there's some thoughts

452
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Speaker 1: around the team that they found a replacement in Monte

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Speaker 1: Nicholson first of all, and that the damage that Cravens

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Speaker 1: did last year by leaving the team, at least within

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Speaker 1: the locker room, that they just and he openly said

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Speaker 1: he just wasn't sure if his heart was in playing football,

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Speaker 1: whether he wanted to do that anymore. That he would

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Speaker 1: be a guy that they basically looked to trade, and

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Speaker 1: I would think that he would have some trade value.

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Speaker 1: It's a very strange situation. I can't think of many

461
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Speaker 1: like precedents for it. They're linebacker, and Mason Foster last

462
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Speaker 1: year at the time said he's gonna have to come

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Speaker 1: back and show what he's made up, show people in

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Speaker 1: his heart's really in it. I don't think anybody's gonna

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Speaker 1: welcome him back with open arms, and it wasn't an

466
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Speaker 1: isolated incident. He left his team in college multiple times

467
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Speaker 1: um for similar reasons where he was kind of emotionally

468
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Speaker 1: conflicted whether basically wanted to keep playing the sport. It's

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Speaker 1: natural to have doubts and feelings and interest outside of football,

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Speaker 1: and we saw a guy like Keenan Allen in two

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Speaker 1: thousand team came out and said I almost quit after

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Speaker 1: my first month in the NFL. I wanted to be

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Speaker 1: a music producer and I wasn't getting the playing time

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Speaker 1: I deserve. It's one thing to have those feelings. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how wise it is to express them publicly

476
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Speaker 1: when you worry about a team dynamic in the locker

477
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Speaker 1: room and football where commitment is a huge issue, commitment

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Speaker 1: to the fifty three guys and putting your body through

479
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Speaker 1: the kind of punishment and rigors of the game is

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Speaker 1: a big issue for other players. And he recently had

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Speaker 1: need to follow what makes me happy. Now that's that's

485
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Speaker 1: fine as a human being, but I think inside an

486
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Speaker 1: NFL locker room, when you know you're gonna be tested

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Speaker 1: to the total limits, like a program, I'll die on

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Speaker 1: the field, play half doing all that. Tom Brady just

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Speaker 1: said it. I'm willing to die, I'll give up everything.

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Speaker 1: Are you willing to do the same, Like you're not

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Speaker 1: allowed to be a nuanced human? And he has had concussions.

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Speaker 1: He has had concussion issues. It's a I if I

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Speaker 1: was the Redskins, I would welcome him, welcome him back,

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Speaker 1: because ultimately, are you're gonna get much in a trade

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Speaker 1: for him? He was the second round pick that did

496
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Speaker 1: show talent in his rookie season. He looked like he

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Speaker 1: was gonna be a good player. More importantly, Greg West,

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Speaker 1: that was news to me that Keenan Allen was interested

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Speaker 1: in pursuing a music production career. How about get Delaware

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Speaker 1: back together, play some gigs, knock off the rust, and

501
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Speaker 1: then have him executive producer comeback album. You're speaking of

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Speaker 1: my my freshman year of high school band that played

503
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Speaker 1: acid rock prog rock band of the late nineties, or

505
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Speaker 1: it was more Yeah, it was more of a mix

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Speaker 1: of the Dead Milkmen. You know they might be giants?

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Speaker 1: Really did the Pixies? Do you know where all the

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Speaker 1: rest of the band members are? Could you? Could you

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Speaker 1: do the legwork to get everyone back for a reunion show?

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Speaker 1: I don't know where. I'll get a few on facebooks

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Speaker 1: of you they might be? Is that bird cage in

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Speaker 1: Frank Black, like Frank Black solo album early, It's like

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Speaker 1: so let me know if you can get the band

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Speaker 1: What's going on, Greg, you're contacting the producer through the glass.

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Speaker 1: What's I'm ready for? Marty Hernie has been reinstated into

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Speaker 1: his role as the interim Panthers general management and I

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Speaker 1: thought this was worth bringing up because it's a very

549
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Speaker 1: strange situation right now that Marty Hermie Marty Hernie was

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Speaker 1: being investigated um for sexual harassment case. He was an

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Speaker 1: interim general manager. They don't have a general manager right now,

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Speaker 1: and they're still looking for a permanent one. Wasn't he

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Speaker 1: expected to be the permanent he was until all of

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Speaker 1: this came up. There there was no evidence of a

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Speaker 1: violation that the NFL informed the team, uh and the

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Speaker 1: investigation is now closed. They believe he did not violate

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Speaker 1: the league's personal conduct policy. I just wanted to put

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Speaker 1: it out there because it's February sixteen. They don't have

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Speaker 1: a general manager, and he can be the interim guy

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Speaker 1: all they want. It's it's a strange thing. They gotta

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Speaker 1: they gotta looking for an owner essentially, don't have a

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Speaker 1: front office or an ownership structure. Why would anyone want

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Speaker 1: to go there in free agency with that type of

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Speaker 1: unrest we just saw on the two bills of Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick to get a general manager to leave the Jets

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Speaker 1: because of that stuff. I think smart football people know

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Speaker 1: you want to go somewhere that's stable, and maybe the

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Speaker 1: Panthers end up stable, but right now they are not.

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Speaker 1: Stay all right, Here we go the top five calls

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Speaker 1: of Okay. This was a labor of love, UH, working

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Speaker 1: together throughout the season. If you're a listener of the show,

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Speaker 1: a long time listener, a weekly listener, you know we

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Speaker 1: play one highlight UM typically one highlight for each game

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Speaker 1: we go through on Sundays and Mondays, UH, a couple

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. And if one, you know, mark strikes our fancy.

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Speaker 1: Is that a good way to put it? I think so.

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Speaker 1: It's gotta it's gotta, you know, reach the census. It's

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Speaker 1: gotta make you feel something. Then it gets sent down

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Speaker 1: the conveyor belt to Lindsay full time behind the glass

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Speaker 1: and say, Lindsay, clip that off. Put that in the running.

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Speaker 1: And what we ended up with was a good I'd

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Speaker 1: say twenty or so UM highlights we had a whittled

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Speaker 1: out to five. It took. It was a process that

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Speaker 1: lasted days and days. This week, it's the only thing

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Speaker 1: I did. I just went through the highlights. I listened

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Speaker 1: to every vowel, how much, no Danish water and white bread,

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Speaker 1: just to stay focused. How they hit their words. One

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Speaker 1: rickety light bulb. Yeah, one rickety light bulb. I was

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Speaker 1: in the agony chamber actually doing it, uh, to make

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Speaker 1: sure it was right. Uh. Greg came in at the end,

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Speaker 1: swooped and said, I like this. I don't like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg, That's me. And then at the end of

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Speaker 1: the at the end of the day, we had a

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Speaker 1: top five. Yeah, yeah, a lot of them. When it

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Speaker 1: was a lot of them, you're excited to listen to

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Speaker 1: him at the time, and then suddenly it's February. Kind

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Speaker 1: of the context of week six is Bengals game is

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Speaker 1: a little out the window and you're just like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that guy was just like mildly raised his voice more

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Speaker 1: than normal, doesn't resonate the same right, And we find

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Speaker 1: that a lot. Uh. And in these top five, uh,

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Speaker 1: these were the best though. And uh we'll start with

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Speaker 1: number five. It comes from the great Mitch Holtus of

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Speaker 1: Casey f X. UH. It was a game between uh

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs and the Redskins A and UH

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Speaker 1: Harrison Buckner. Buck Butker lined up for a forty three

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Speaker 1: yard field goal eight seconds left, looking to give the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs the wind high snap pulled down, Butcher's kick us

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Speaker 1: out and us right down the boulevard. It's good. The

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Speaker 1: Chefs take out twenty three to lead with four seconds

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Speaker 1: left in regulation, and Harrison Butker kicks some you know what,

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Speaker 1: I like it. I like that one. It's number five,

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Speaker 1: I thought, because I don't know, we can't say, but well,

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Speaker 1: I can't you just say he kicks some butt? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well he did, didn't he? I think he said he

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Speaker 1: set up. We all knew what the punch line was,

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Speaker 1: and he he we we knew. I feel like if

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Speaker 1: we do this year after year, there's gonna be some

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Speaker 1: repeat guys like Holt, it's gonna be like the best

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Speaker 1: holtus one of the year. I don't know the Titans

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Speaker 1: guy's name by heart, but I feel like he's gonna

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get on it quite a bit. Paul Allen,

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Speaker 1: it's about personality more than the situation in many of these.

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Speaker 1: So that was a Monday night which Gregg watched with

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Speaker 1: me and the Paramore. I believe that's right. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the paramore Paramore's it was a good game, alright.

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Speaker 1: That's number five, number four? Oh yeah, you knew he

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Speaker 1: was gonna show up and some people are gonna say, whoa, whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 1: Why is Scott zolak uh so low on this list? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, Scott, get used to disappointment because it's starting

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Speaker 1: to pile up for you. You're coming at number and

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Speaker 1: it's hatter to be on the list at all. The

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Speaker 1: Patriots roughing up the Dolphins in Week twelve, and uh,

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Speaker 1: here is a touchdown pass from Tom Brady to the

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Speaker 1: big Man. It's end. It's not go to thirteen now

636
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Speaker 1: for the Patriots, backed up to the fifteen. Brady's in

637
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Speaker 1: the gun, takes the stat fox to the pocket and

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00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: dis he throws luck touchdown. Robe faces it's leave. Brady

639
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: gets trilled and gets right up. It says, keep breaking it,

640
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Speaker 1: Please keep blitzing our quarterback, our quarterback, Bob Sojy, and

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Speaker 1: Scott's all a w b Z. I thought this year

642
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: a gentleman was the the year when I look back

643
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: at the play calling of the unhinged color man that's

644
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: chewing all semblance of professionalism in favor of rooting openly

645
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: for his favorite team, well in him especially, and he's like,

646
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: I will trample over Bob Sochy every single time I speak,

647
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: I will get my words out there. And we saw

648
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: him in Media night. Zolock is a truly strange, wild

649
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: energy presence. I mean, he was crazy. That's him. That's him,

650
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: like he us. He comes off when you listen to

651
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: these as like a fan of the Patriots that grew

652
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: up in Southey or maybe like Western mass around where

653
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: Greg's from. And he got to Foxborough, uh at six

654
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: am for a four pm kickoff, and then right I

655
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 1: had like three thirty pm, a Patriots staff or grabbed

656
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Speaker 1: him after he put down a quarter keag himself and

657
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: put him up in the booth. That's Scott Slack and

658
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: uh apparently he's quite popular up there, so people like it.

659
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: I I think it speaks to a larger issue. Dan On,

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Speaker 1: on your statement that it's not only color guys but writers,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I like the the use of we

662
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: coming from a writer. I just lose a little bit

663
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Speaker 1: of respect. I don't know. I can't take you as seriously.

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Speaker 1: And we've talked about we've talked about this on the

665
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: podcast before. Mark, you and I grew up around the

666
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: New York market where even though there are leanings, I'm

667
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: sure with these guys, even the color guys, they play

668
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: a pretty straight but when you listen to the local

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Speaker 1: radio guys, even up in Boston, which is a Northeast market,

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Speaker 1: they are all in totally different animals for the home team.

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00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: Let's move on to number three. Oh yeah, shut up, Scott,

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Speaker 1: your time's over your number four. You don't even get

673
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Speaker 1: a prose baby. I mean, he has really stretched out

674
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: those seven career starts into quite a broadcast. It's so true,

675
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: all right, this next one, this is a deep cut.

676
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: Uh and uh. It was founded by Mark Sessler who

677
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: was waiting for me to pick him up to take

678
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: him to a bar to watch a mundane Seahawks Cardinals

679
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: game in week ten. And you were, I think you

680
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: were listening in on the radio callon think about the

681
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: professionalism involved with this podcast. Some bird Dog Scouting premiered.

682
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: So with thirteen minutes and two seconds to play in

683
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Speaker 1: the third quarter, we heard this from Ron Wolfie Katie.

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Speaker 1: A R Dave pass with the play call look standing back.

685
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: The throw with time looking short, passed to the left.

686
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: It is caught inside the forty by Peterson and he

687
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Speaker 1: turns up field of the thirty gets the first down

688
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Speaker 1: inside the thirty five down to the thirty three. First

689
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Speaker 1: of all, Peterson caught the ball, which is rare because

690
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: he doesn't catch a lot of passes. But then he

691
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: stayed in bounds, got thirteen yards. How about that he

692
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Speaker 1: broke the tackle of camp Chancellor by the way, shook

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Speaker 1: him off like a little winter snow on a sunlit,

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Speaker 1: moonlit deeping. But that was weird, right, there, wasn't it?

695
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Speaker 1: You think? Dave? I love Dave passes straight and then

696
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: reaction there He's like what because typically when someone gets

697
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Speaker 1: lost in the weeds, you're you kinda they're they're on

698
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: their own in a way. But sometimes it's so ridiculous

699
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Speaker 1: that and Dave in this case had to speak as

700
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Speaker 1: the audience sargein and be like, what starts off so

701
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: prom if he had just chosen sunlit or moonlit, he

702
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: was fine. I'm really excited for after the show because

703
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: I just googled Ron Wolfley's name that there's a newspaper

704
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: article from the Arizona Republic titled Here's why wolf Ley

705
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Speaker 1: talks that way during Cardinals games. So I'm looking forward

706
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Speaker 1: to then why here's here's why he talks. It's gonna

707
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Speaker 1: explain it like Jesse the body Ventur. I guess I

708
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Speaker 1: just got my my flight arrangements for the Combine Mark.

709
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: They're sending me to Atlanta as well. Yeah, we're going

710
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Speaker 1: to Indianapolis, but let's go to Atlanta. We're probably on

711
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: the same flight. This is the third floor at work. Again,

712
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Speaker 1: they're making their you know's, they got all the Squarespace

713
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: money coming out of their pockets, but they gotta put

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Speaker 1: us on eight connecting flights to get for me to

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Speaker 1: be at least they're at work. Delta is the only

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Speaker 1: place that flies direct from a well, that's this is

717
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Speaker 1: a Delta. This is a Delta flight. So on contrary

718
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: to that idea. Now they've gone around about how many

719
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: times can we be double crossed? In one podcast? It's

720
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: it is, it's it's cropping up. What is this the

721
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: nineteen sixties cartoon American Delta Direct Flight? Alright, I don't Delta.

722
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Speaker 1: We're getting killed here. Yeah, alright, congratulations Lindsey and your

723
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: great fortune. Maybe we're supposed to. We make fun of

724
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: the third four constantly, and this is their way to

725
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: get revenge. Now we're into that big time. So ron

726
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: wolf Lee gets the bronze and uh, now it is

727
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: time for Merl Reas and Mike Quick of w I

728
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Speaker 1: p the Eagles when their first Super Bowl and franchise history.

729
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Speaker 1: And and I'm happy for Merl Reaves that he got

730
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 1: to do this call because it wasn't a perfect super

731
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Speaker 1: Bowl for Mel Reas. The famous Philly Special not quite

732
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: as famous as the helmet catch mark, but the very

733
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: famous Philly Special, the most famous individual play in Eagles history.

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Speaker 1: As Gregg pointed out on our Super Bowl show, Oh

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00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: it has to hurt when you're the play by play guy.

736
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Speaker 1: He got the name wrong. I said, Tray and Trey

737
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: Burton through the past, Nick Foles, he said, well, he

738
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Speaker 1: went zach Ertz. He kept mentioning Zack Hurts. I think

739
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: four or five or six times a Reese bummer. That's

740
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: a bad one. But vindication came on the final play

741
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: of Super Bowl's us. We will never forget this, hopefully

742
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: with joy in our hearts. Time Suckings one Eagles by day,

743
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Speaker 1: Freddy Win the n He's back again, he steps on,

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Speaker 1: he's hit, he stumbles, he is throwing it deep for

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Speaker 1: the m zone and it is battle around and I'm

746
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Speaker 1: completing the cables all over Philadelphia Eagles are Super Bowl champions,

747
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: Eagles fans everywhere. This is for you. Let those tele

748
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Speaker 1: points sick it. Oh my god, it's gonna say when

749
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: I just bust it out and so don't even know

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Speaker 1: what to do with myself right now. Ah, there you go.

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00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: That was of course Colleen Wolf the a t M

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Speaker 1: med inside I got that exclusive. But Meryl Reese and

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Speaker 1: Mike Quick with the call w y p uh nice.

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Speaker 1: That's a nice like some of my earliest memories. Because

755
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: football on the radio, I think is it can be

756
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: at times far superior to anything you see on television.

757
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: And that play explains exactly why, because he's tracking the

758
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: ball and your minute by minute, by second by second,

759
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: wondering if the ball hit the ground or landing in

760
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: someone's hands, and he did a great job with that.

761
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: Reminds me of driving around with my dad on Sunday's

762
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: Way Back listening to Giants games and it sounds like

763
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: it's from the forties or fifties. It it takes you

764
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: to a completely different time radio football. I'm impressed with

765
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: guys like Kevin Harland who go between television and radio.

766
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: He does Monday nights and does an awesome job in

767
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: the rate and it's such a different call and such

768
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: a different skill set and he just like goes between

769
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Speaker 1: it to Benny on the day. All right, good job, guys,

770
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: Now that's it. You would think that that call the

771
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: first Super Bowl title in Eagles history, a great call

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00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: by recent quick with get it. But no, there was

773
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: one better call, and uh came from k f A

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Speaker 1: and Paul Allen and his partner Paul versus sich Yes.

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Speaker 1: The final play of the Divisional playoffs Viking Saints Vikings

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Speaker 1: at their own thirty nine. It's third down, three receivers right,

777
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: feeling left, Marshawn Lattimore twelve yards from Adam Case on

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Speaker 1: a deep Throp steps up in the fucking He'll fire

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Speaker 1: to the right side. Come by games, stay on, Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, are you getting Eric in the media. It's

781
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: all right, step on. Let me do Orleans Saints. That's

782
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Speaker 1: a sick. The most impressive part of it for me

783
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: is Paul Allen coining the nickname for the play. And

784
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: it's not the most original nickname, but it is perfect.

785
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: It will stand the test of time. He said it

786
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: in real time seconds after the play ended, and that's

787
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: what's held up. That's how people know that play, and

788
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: that's how you get number one for the season. That's

789
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 1: stepping up to the moment right there. You, Paul Allen,

790
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: you met the big moment. You basically did that. You

791
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: know the same thing Stefan Diggs did. What if you're

792
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: driving around when that happens, you go right off the highway? Oh,

793
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: I mean that would be that would be a really

794
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: impossible thing to do. If you're a die hard Vikings fan,

795
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: if you're listening on the radio, you gotta pull over

796
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: before the last player. That just in terms of safety,

797
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: I would agree, tremendous, tremendous work by Paul and try

798
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: to get Paul on the show. Reached out to him,

799
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: but he's probably still fielding media inquiries. That's my theory.

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00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: That's why you didn't get back to us. But good

801
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: job by you and Greg with only one her in

802
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Speaker 1: white Bread to come up with that. I mean, that's

803
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: the art of broadcasting right there. That's just that deserves

804
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: to be number one. I believe Lindsey Fulton deserves a

805
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: lot of credit helping to curate the list. So there

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Speaker 1: you go, the top five plays. The winner, he gets

807
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: the crown. This year Paul Allen. Uh with his buddy

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00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: Paul Bursch of k f A n all. Right, before

809
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: we go, Greg's clicks hunting. He's out in the out back.

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00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: He said, I need them clicks. It's almost bonus time.

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Speaker 1: I gotta told that maximum four percent bonus? How do

812
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: I do it? Maximum clicks? Is that NFL Netflix? Greg

813
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: risin full? So he's been rolling him out the last

814
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. His his signature pieces leading up to

815
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Speaker 1: free agency. This one free franchise tag predictions, Uh, you

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Speaker 1: call it the Primer and now the Primmer in a

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Speaker 1: big spot headline two NFL Franchise Tag Primmer colon eight

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Speaker 1: most likely Candidates. Okay, so let's go through Greg. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You start, you break it down into tears. As we

820
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: know we know Greg's work by now. Greg's fingerprints is DNA.

821
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: He likes to break things into tears. And his top

822
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Speaker 1: tiers the no brainers Levy on Bell staying with Pittsburgh

823
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: and DeMarcus Lawrence staying with the Cowboys. No brainers means

824
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: there's no way they shouldn't do it, or no way

825
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. There's no way that those players are

826
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Speaker 1: hitting free agency with with Bell especially, I could see

827
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: a scenario where they do get a contract done before

828
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Speaker 1: the final day that you can tag a player, which

829
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Speaker 1: is March six. But if they if they're not able

830
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Speaker 1: to do it in that in the meantime, there's no

831
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: way they're not going to tag tag Bell. That's my

832
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: belief and Lawrence well, and this time around, Bell said

833
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: that he would play on the tag. Not not that

834
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 1: he prefers that, but I thought he was gonna retire

835
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: or something. I kind of checked out on the whole

836
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Speaker 1: the other way. Oh, I thought he said that he

837
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: would play under that he's changed. He will, he made

838
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 1: very well, may have. He has waffled back and forth.

839
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Speaker 1: It's the second thing I'll look up floating away in

840
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: the ocean. Goodbye. Either way. Kevin Colvert spoke to Did

841
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Speaker 1: he Can Wild this week, and he made it clear.

842
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: I think they're not They're gonna get this done. They

843
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: they offered to make him the highest paid running back

844
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: in the league by far last year. I just think

845
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: there's too much. When both sides want to get a

846
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: deal done, it happens, you know, By the way, on

847
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com, we have a story where he says

848
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: he would play under the franchise well, I would be

849
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: a very high number this year because he played under

850
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: it last year. It is massive redemption. I thought you

851
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: were floating away like Wilson. Well, it's like the worst

852
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: thing that could be happening. It's like, I, you know,

853
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: you you state something. Everyone's like, no, that's not true

854
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: at all, and you're like, what am I doing here

855
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: in the building. What's what's striking to me about this list?

856
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: In that category to players are new brainers. It's just

857
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve that twenty one players got the franchise tag.

858
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: It has changed massively because five years ago teams were

859
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: using it against the spirit of the rules. It was

860
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: always meant to be used as a tool to help

861
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: you come to a long term agreement, and a lot

862
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: of teams were using it just to keep players there

863
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: without wanting a long term agreement. And I think that's

864
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: a I mean, think about why the franchise tag started.

865
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: Why is named the franchise tag for a player who's

866
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: the face of your franchise that you're not gonna lose him.

867
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: It's like the NBA has a Larry Bird exception. It's

868
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: supposed to be for that caliber of players, and the

869
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: price has gone up significantly due to changes in the CBA.

870
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: That was one good thing that happened for veterans. So

871
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: these are high tags. With that said, I think the

872
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: bigger factor is that teams are just doing a better

873
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: job resigning their own players, because when you look at

874
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: this list, and we'll get into it, like I do

875
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: think some mid mid level players are pretty good candidates

876
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: to get tags and get get huge that it's easier

877
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: to resign your guys when the allary cap keeps going up.

878
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: So I guess everybody wins next category. Say yes, these

879
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: players are by Elliott Smith. Shoutout, how about that? Look

880
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: at you? These players are by no means guaranteed to

881
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: get tagged, but I'm leaning yes if they will. That's

882
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: exact text from Greg and you have on this list,

883
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: amongst others, Alan Robinson, Sammy Watkins, and Kyle Fuller. This

884
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: is a surprised me. I did not expect to see

885
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: names like Kyle Fuller and Andrew Norwell and I Sheldon

886
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: Richardson on here. I could be totally wrong. I'm just

887
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: I'm just shooting shooting my shots here, just guessing. I mean,

888
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: I asked around a little bit on on these I

889
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: just think it logically, why let Kyle let you? You

890
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: like Kyle Fuller, for instance, and he came out of nowhere,

891
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: had a great year West do like him a lot.

892
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: I think I like him more than the Bears like him.

893
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: The Bears are trying to sign him long term. And

894
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: I guess my thought is, Okay, the Bears have forty

895
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: million in cap space, they'll probably open up another twenty

896
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: five million with cuts. You have sixty million in cap space.

897
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: Why not give Kyle Fuller fifteen million dollars this year?

898
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: If if he's starting on your team and he makes

899
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: your team better, you're basically making the choice We're gonna

900
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 1: spend less to get worse because you're not gonna get

901
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: better players in free agency than that. And I really,

902
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: if I'm in the these teams, I love that there's

903
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: no long term commitment. It's one year. You can easily

904
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: fit him under the cap, pay him. I like the idea. Well,

905
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: I think the cap has changed so much. But to

906
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: your point that this used to be the face of

907
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: your franchise, I mean, we've quickly veered into a cast

908
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: of characters that couldn't be anything. There's nothing close to that.

909
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: Allen Robinson, I think one of the more but Sammy talented.

910
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: That's sort of like the Eagles blueprint with al Sean Jeffrey.

911
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: Give me a year, we're gonna go try to win

912
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: a championship and then we'll worry about next year. After

913
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: they gave up a second round pick and a veteran

914
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: to get Sammy Watkins. I actually think if I was

915
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: the Rams, I would rather tag LaMarcus Joiner. But I

916
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: think they feel like they've invested so much in Sammy Watkins,

917
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: even though it's sixteen million dollars, which seems crazy for

918
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: a guy that only had five yards. It's like you

919
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: made that trade. I think they want to make it

920
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: work with Sammy. Your next here and this is this

921
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: is saucy because the click hunter now is digging in.

922
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: He says these are big names that he doesn't think

923
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: you're gonna be tagged. That means they're gonna go into

924
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: the UFA pile. Hopefully the click ter strikes again. Jarvis Landry,

925
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: that's not pejorative, by the way. I don't want to

926
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: make it seem like I'm I'm consulting you. Greg. This

927
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: will be. It's reminiscent of the mind Hunter, that great

928
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: serial killer show on on Netflix. I watched the pilot,

929
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: couldn't get into it. Oh, I loved it. Um, you're

930
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: just these are stories that do well historically, right, I

931
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think so. I mean I think

932
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: some of them, not particularly. The thing that's nice is

933
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: I don't think any of all pay any attention to

934
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: how are articles do anymore? Which overall is a good thing.

935
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: All right. Jarvis Landry the Dolphins, the guy has like

936
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty catches a year, but that doesn't

937
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: always mean you're a real star. Case Keenum of the Bikes, Uh,

938
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: we know all about Case. And then Jimmy Graham. We

939
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: just talked about him actually on our Free Agency Free

940
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 1: Agency Primmer video show, which you could check out on

941
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: YouTube on the official NFL channel and also if you

942
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: like to stay more NFL dot com located NFL dot

943
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: com slash a t N video where you could find

944
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: our Primmer. It's a fifteen minute breakdown of the market

945
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: as it stands. Gregg might take you that long to

946
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: find it too. So why aren't these players being taked?

947
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: Let's start with Jervis Landry in your opinion, I don't

948
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: think the Dolphins have ever shown that they really value

949
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry, so this is just a guess. He is

950
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: not the type of player that usually gets to free

951
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: agency because he's productive, he's young, he's obviously good. But

952
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 1: they don't seem like they really are that into Jarvis Landry.

953
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: I can't feel like him and Adam Case aren't completely

954
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: on the same page. If h well, it doesn't. I

955
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: don't know if it makes sense on the roster. But

956
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: if you really want to keep O'Dell Beckham around in

957
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: New York, why don't you get his best friend up

958
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: there in the medal Lands. Those guys literally love each other.

959
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: I think, oh my god, the media coverage would be insuperable.

960
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, he's a little duplicative with Sterling

961
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: Shepard anyway, and Jimmy Graham. Uh, that makes sense to

962
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: me too. That's the second Seahawk though, So they'd have

963
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: to pick between these two, and they might they might

964
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: not go neither. I Richardson was one where some of

965
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: the writing and some of the people out there they

966
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 1: believed kind of like Sammy Watkins at the Seahawks gave

967
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: up a lot for Sheldon Richardson and they almost don't

968
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: want to make that trade be such a waste. And

969
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: they seem a little higher on how he performed, uh

970
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: than than his normal stats show. How about make a

971
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: play the one thing if he hasn't light his best

972
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: really since two thousand fourteen, that's a little that's a

973
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: little time now for a with case Keenum, because let's

974
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: say a lot of people are pairing the Vikings with

975
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. Now we don't know where the Vikings are

976
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: on that, but if you're gonna make a play for

977
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: Cousins publicly, and then you also have to turn around

978
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: and either try to sign or franchise tag case Keenum

979
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 1: after the season. He just gave you Remember when Mark

980
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: Sanchez got that makeup deal when were they pursuing Peyton

981
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: Man and they gave Yeah, it was a ridiculous contract

982
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: that even Jets fans thought was absurd. I think Dan

983
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: even got in trouble for you know, angling it that

984
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: way and it's it's right up. But yeah, it's like

985
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: your's you have to play this game with case Keenan

986
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: would just gave you this like breakout year and it

987
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: could be that could men, and you would have to

988
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: make the decision by March six. I don't see how

989
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: that makes any sense if you're if you're legitimately going

990
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: to go after kirk Cousins. And also, I think there's

991
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: a great risk if you give Keenum any tag, he's

992
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: gonna sign that thing right away and lock himself in

993
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: for more than twenty million dollars if you don't pay

994
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: Case Keenum, who's giving him twenty million a year. I

995
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: don't see like any other franchise saying oh yeah, I

996
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: need to go get my hands on Case Keenum at

997
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: twenty millions. Assuming he doesn't get tagged. There's a little tea.

998
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: By the way, nobody wanted him for a one year,

999
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 1: two million dollar deal with the things have changed. But yeah,

1000
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: that that is very true. Fifty a little over under

1001
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: uh teaser, go get my lunch. Not really throwing it

1002
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: out this for sandwiches. But if Case Keenum hits the

1003
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 1: market over under guaranteed money fifteen and a half million,

1004
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: I go, I'm gonna go over gets like a two

1005
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: year deal. If Glennon got eighteen guaranteed, I feel like

1006
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,439
Speaker 1: Keenum will get get over fifty sort of this year's

1007
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick after the Jets didn't want to pay Fitzpatrick.

1008
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: But I I feel like he's got a little more

1009
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: shine on him, and the salary caps higher, So I'll

1010
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: go over and younger and and had a better year.

1011
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: You know, there are there is a way you can

1012
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: kind of convince yourself into keenom that, hey, he's a

1013
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: relatively young player. Who I mean, Patrick's said the Jets

1014
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: franchise record for touchdowns that year. It's gotta be over

1015
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 1: because the quarterback money is insane right now. Patrick ended

1016
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: up getting twelve million guaranteed. Yeah, I think the money

1017
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: before he gets the money is bigger now than it

1018
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: was a couple of years ago. All right, and Greg

1019
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: as as we know, to Drew Brees, not even a

1020
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: real discussion here. Drew Brees and Nate Soldier both had

1021
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: clauses in their contract that say they can't be tagged

1022
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: good job by their agents. What contract do you give

1023
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,439
Speaker 1: Drew Brees though, at age thirty nine, I think it's

1024
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: really tricky. I I people just assume he's gonna just

1025
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: like down and signed some team, because because he's staying

1026
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: in that's easy for him to say he can play

1027
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: good cop, bad cop with with your agent being the

1028
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: bad cop and his agent, Tom Condon is pretty much

1029
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: made a career out of sucking teams dry and getting

1030
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: them maximumount of quarterback money possible. Matthew Stafford, Peyton Manning,

1031
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, and it's very rarely easy. Could you ever

1032
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: see like a weird team like the Jets swooping in

1033
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: and getting Breeze for three years anything like that. I mean,

1034
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 1: he didn't show signs of decline last year. I didn't

1035
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: think they are three years away and he'll be like

1036
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: years old. I don't know. I could just see one

1037
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: team doing like a two year patch with him. What

1038
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: about the Cardinals, That's what I'm saying. I mean, I mean,

1039
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: I don't go anywhere. He's probably but I could be

1040
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: so off with this, But I do think there will

1041
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: be some reports at some point that says this team

1042
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: is interested in Drew Brees, and he's kind of interested,

1043
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 1: and it never happens. He ends up stay, he ends

1044
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: up using that to stay with the Saints. But I

1045
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: do think, I do think that could happen. Larry Fitzgerald

1046
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: has made a phone call to Drew right exactly to

1047
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: the desert. I don't. I don't think it's gonna happen either,

1048
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: but I could see that headline definitely. I agree that.

1049
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: I could see Larry Fitzgerald called Drew Brees, and I

1050
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: could see all of that. I'm just going to write

1051
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 1: it when when it comes down to it, he is

1052
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: going to be back in New Orleans. Um, okay, there

1053
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Speaker 1: you go. Check it out NFL dot com. Slash Rosenthal

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Speaker 1: hunt damn clicks, hunt them down? What's up with Mark?

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a very in house expensive just got

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Speaker 1: approved after you know, iterations on email. I don't even

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Speaker 1: know if that should be announced on It's been a

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Speaker 1: big internal show any where many of us. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm still dealing with that. This is another issue Peak

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Speaker 1: behind the Curtain podcast. Yeah. Sometimes you know, it's not

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Speaker 1: as exciting as you would think it would be to

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Speaker 1: open up the commo. Um. All right, we will be

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Speaker 1: back on Tuesday, a little different week because of its

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Speaker 1: President's Day where we celebrate the past presidents. Um. And

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Speaker 1: we will be back Tuesday, and then we'll have another

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Speaker 1: show Thursday and then a show Friday. So still three

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Speaker 1: shows next week, but no show Tuesday. But you're all

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Speaker 1: gonna tweet us anyway, saying where's the show on Monday?

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Speaker 1: So why don't even tell you this? I love you guys. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then the week after that we are going to

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Speaker 1: the Combine and we'll be doing two shows from the

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Speaker 1: are covering all the press conferences for the coaches in GM.

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Speaker 1: So it's fun time a year, uh, and we're all

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Speaker 1: looking forward to it. I just I just found out

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Speaker 1: that we're gonna have some multiple Westlings in in Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: for the Combine, driving over from Cincinnati. Trouble, trouble, rolling

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Speaker 1: in over the border, over the city limits. Um, alright,

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Speaker 1: great news. All right, we will be back next week,

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Speaker 1: so thank you. This is Dan Hansons signing off for

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Speaker 1: Quiet Storm mail Man, the old Boss, Lindsay Bolton. I'm

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Speaker 1: the glass till Tuesday.