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Speaker 1: Tony because we wanted to tape him out in the backyard.

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00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: We hooked it up and been hooked up through the TV,

428
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: and you really hadn't even used it in this One day,

429
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: y'all was struggling and I asked my wife to take

430
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: my bats while we're on the road trip. That's a

431
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: good swing right there, front foot is locked in. He

432
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: would say, leash, can you go look at at bat

433
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: number two and tell me what I'm doing wrong. And

434
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: his wife was probably the best hitting instructor of anybody

435
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: because she knew exactly what he did to success, and

436
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: she could look at the video and they would discuss it.

437
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,959
Speaker 1: And when he goes to shortstop in order to hit

438
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: the inside pitcher, really up to hit my hands through

439
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: it a hurry. We became a team. You know, I

440
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: wasn't out there hitting, but we became a team. So

441
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 1: that's kind of like what I do best right there,

442
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: just to take the inside fastball and fight it off

443
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: and hit it the other way. He was relentless with

444
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: the studying of it. In fact, we lost him as

445
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: a poker player because of the video. So we used

446
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: to kid about that. You know, this video is killing

447
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: our poker game. Solid front leg down on the ball. Perfect.

448
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: Back to Tony Gwynn Junior on who his favorite player

449
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: was growing up, There are a lot of my dad's

450
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: teammates that I just loved. I mean, because again, my

451
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 1: dad was really just dad to me. Until I got older.

452
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I don't know if I really appreciated

453
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 1: how how good he was until I was, like, you know,

454
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: in high school when I really started to understand, like, man,

455
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: this is the guy is epic right here. I mean

456
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: he's going to Yankee Stadium, He's going deep. I mean,

457
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 1: my dad is really really good at what he does.

458
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't until that point that I started to really

459
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: understand it. But prior to that, you know, I'm I'm

460
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: infatuated with the dudes I see on TV all the time.

461
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: You know, when Gary Sheffield became a podre, when Fred

462
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: McGriff became a padre, Roberto Alamar, like these dudes that

463
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: when you when you're eight nine years of age, do

464
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: you think these guys are like really your best friend?

465
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: So you're like, I want to see Trevor, I want

466
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,959
Speaker 1: to see I want to see Roberto, you know, and

467
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: you know I want to see Tempy, like all these

468
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: guys that my dad played with, Uh, we're superheroes to

469
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: be basically, you know, I remember my dad used to

470
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: tell you used to give me a hard time because

471
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: for a long time, I used to love Will Clark,

472
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: used to love everything his whole stance, all of that,

473
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: and ironically I started liking him because he was the

474
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: one that was going up against my dad for batting

475
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: titles for like a couple of years. And I remember

476
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: one time we came out of the tunnel with walcome,

477
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: you're getting ready to head home after game, and Will

478
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: Clark just happened to be standing there, and my dad,

479
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 1: like trying to embarrass me, goes, hey, Will, can you

480
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: believe you're my son's favorite hitter? Like it not even me,

481
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: not even know it's his own dad, it's you, And

482
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: Will had a click. He got a click kick out

483
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: of that, right because obviously my dad beat him out,

484
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: yet his son likes him better than his own father.

485
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: So I just think that just came with me. You know.

486
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: One they were different. They were they weren't my dad,

487
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: you know. Trevor and I became super tight as I

488
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: got older, but he also used to when I when

489
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: I do strange teenage stuff or things I probably shouldn't be.

490
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: I remember one time I walked in with an la

491
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 1: hat on and it was it was a black and

492
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 1: gray lad so it was really more like a raider thing.

493
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: But I wore it in the clubhouse and he almost

494
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: bit my head off for it. And another lesson learning.

495
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, they take this whole rivalry thing

496
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,719
Speaker 1: pretty seriously. Let me not do that again. You know.

497
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 1: Here's Trevor Hoffman the Padres Hall of Fame closer on

498
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: his observations of how Senior was raising Junior. That was

499
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: another thing. Getting a chance to watch the way him

500
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: and Tony Gwyn Junior Anthony growing up in the clubhouse,

501
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 1: how that relationship shaped the way I thought about how

502
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: I would handle my family in the clubhouse as a dad.

503
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: I got a chance to be in the clubhouse as

504
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: a brother, having my older brother play, but dating a

505
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: chance to the first hand the interaction that they would

506
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: have at two o'clock in the afternoon or weekends and

507
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: summer summertime, and then when school would start, having to

508
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: kind of get home to go to bed, and that

509
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: was pretty awesome. And see him and Alicia throughout the

510
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 1: years just just was a great example of how he

511
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: was a dad and a husband and it was pretty great.

512
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, the relationship that he had to San Diego,

513
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, it was well documented as well. You know,

514
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: our favorite son playing at Samuel State as a basketball

515
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: baseball player, playing for a coach legendary coach and coach

516
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: deats Um and then twenty year career and then going

517
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: back to his alma Monter to kind of finish it off.

518
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: So he's definitely mister San Diego, mister Padre and uh,

519
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: it's it's probably something that's never gonna never be gonna

520
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: be replicated. When you hear that name, Tony Gwynn Junior,

521
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? I smile. I just said, I

522
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: can't be more more proud of the man that he

523
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: is and the father that he is. And really he's

524
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: making his own niche in San Diego. Like he was

525
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: a little green when he got into the you know,

526
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: obviously a great baseball career himself and so but he's

527
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: but he's he's nurtured and he's created this niche and

528
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: and following and space in the media and the and

529
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: radio and does a great job at TV. You know,

530
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: selfishly he had the Hall pass right sounds just like

531
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: his dad knows the game. But he's Tony Gwynn Junior. Now,

532
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: Like it was hard transition for me to say anything

533
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: but Anthony and then it was Tony gwen Jr. I'm like, oh,

534
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm not kind of sold on that, but now Tony

535
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: Gwen Junior is such a prominent voice in San Diego

536
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: doing padre games and breaking down the materials so well

537
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: and painting a picture is on the radio pregame with

538
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: Chris Ello in the afternoon's talk radio and giving his

539
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: insight and really having the opportunity to do it. I'm

540
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: just so I'm just so proud of. I'm proud of,

541
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: you know, how he's been able to become a professional

542
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 1: in a different area after a professional baseball player, and

543
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: loving to hear his voice and loving to hear his takes.

544
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: And that's not an easy thing to do when your

545
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: dad shadow loomed so large. His name was the same.

546
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: He went to his dad's alma mater. But in two

547
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: thousand and three, after a season at San Diego State

548
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: in which he hit three fifty nine, Tony Gwen Junior

549
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: was ready to go pro. I was at that point.

550
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: I was so motivated, you know, from the high school

551
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: draft half you know, three years prior, where you know,

552
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: I was a pretty good high school player and I

553
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: felt like I should have gone higher than I did.

554
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: Ended up being the thousandth pick or something like that,

555
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: And it wasn't about the money. Even my parents were

556
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: well off. It was about the respect. And so by

557
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 1: the time I got drafted, I go from you know,

558
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: the thousand pick because I think it's like the thirty

559
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: sixth overall, I'm feeling pretty good, like I want to

560
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: go out. I'm ready to go out and kind of

561
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: blaze my own trail. Now, I would have been happy

562
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: to be in the Padres organization because ultimately, the way

563
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: I was looking at it was I want to go

564
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: to an organization that doesn't have much where if I

565
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: played well, I got a chance to come through the organization.

566
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: And that's no disrespect to any of the guys that

567
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: were there, but that's what my mindset was like. So

568
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: the Padres the Brewers both were a okay in my book.

569
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: I remember my uncle Chris, who was a scout at

570
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: the time, calling me. He's like, hey, if you're there,

571
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna take you in a second round. So I'm like,

572
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm pumped up, like cool, let's this is this is

573
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: really happening. I'm gonna be a padreight here and two

574
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: picks before the Brewers called me, and I knew they

575
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: were pretty pretty hot on my trail because I had

576
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: seen their scout often. We talked a lot, so I

577
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: wasn't a surprise. And so the Brewers take me two

578
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: picks before take some time to sign a deal. I

579
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: get out. And one thing my dad always used to

580
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: preach to me, especially as I started getting closer and

581
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: closer to professional ball. He's like, he should say, you

582
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: can't make any money hagging around with he's signing bonuses.

583
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: The real money's in the big leagues. In order for

584
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: you to get there, you got to actually be on

585
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: the field at the minor league level and play. So

586
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: don't don't haggle around trying to get a whole bunch

587
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: of money. Your journey starts once you start playing professionally,

588
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 1: and that's how you get to the big league. So

589
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: that's what the mindset was. It's like, it's not spend

590
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: much time on some of the semantics with this signing bonus.

591
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: I want to start playing as soon as possible and

592
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: start my trip there, and um, it's it's it's the

593
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: interesting thing about it is, I know we just lost

594
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: Hank Aaron yesterday and the the the biggest thing was

595
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: I flew out. They used to fly the draft picks

596
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: out to Milwaukee and I got to go out watching

597
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: right and as bright as the day I'm leaving to

598
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: KD de Belloyd for my first professional team, a low

599
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: A ball and Beloyd, Wisconsin. And the last person I

600
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: spoke to before I hopped on that van to go

601
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: out there, it was Hank Aaron. He gave me. He

602
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: got to talk to him for like thirty and fifteen

603
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: minutes when we were watching the game. Gave me some

604
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: advice about just going out there and keeping my head

605
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: down and doing all the right things, playing hard, getting better.

606
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: And I remember saying, if you take care of business,

607
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: you have a chance to get up here in no time.

608
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: And h I always it was simple. It was simple advice,

609
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: but it was it was everything. Well, it was Hank.

610
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: Karen was exactly exactly. I asked Junior, who Senior looked

611
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: up to. My dad was a student even before he

612
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: was a student, like he enjoyed so many different guys,

613
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: um that I've heard him mentioned. Of course, you mentioned,

614
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: He mentions Hank, He mentioned Ted, He mentioned Steve Garvey.

615
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: That was a guy I think who took him under

616
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: his wing when he was a rookie here in San Diego,

617
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: taught him how to be a professional as he used

618
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: to say, um and you know it really Roberto Clementa,

619
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: he mentions a lot obviously, growing up a Dodger fan

620
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 1: living in LA A lot of those Dodger guys he

621
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: was was huge fans of, So my dad didn't didn't

622
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: necessarily mention one guy. But I mean, I know Steve

623
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: Garvey comes in mind because he was actually here in

624
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: San Diego when he came up. But as a kid,

625
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a bunch of guys that my

626
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: dad really really loved watching play. What life lessons and

627
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: hitting lessons or baseball lessons were you taking with you

628
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: wherever you went? You know it's interesting is because most

629
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: of my life took place in San Diego. I had

630
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: a responsibility at a at a much earlier age than

631
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: before I got to a professional ball in terms of

632
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: what my last name meant, what my dad's reputation was,

633
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: and my responsibility and upholding that. And I remember, I

634
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: remember in high school asked where I'm like, well, I

635
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: haven't got a chance to even live my life yet.

636
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: Why do I have to have this burden of being

637
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: what everybody else considers perfect or close to it? I

638
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: don't want that yet. But She made me understand that

639
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of part of being in a family, right.

640
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: You gotta your dad says the example, your mom and

641
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: dad said the example, you follow it and you try

642
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: to honor their names. And that was something that was

643
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: always by the time I was in professional ball, that

644
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: was already mented in my mind. That was something that

645
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: was I was going to play the game the right way. Uh.

646
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: I was. I was going to be coachable, And you know,

647
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: I look back on it, and I was probably too

648
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: coachable at times. You know, there there there is an

649
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: element to a lot of the players that get to

650
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: the elite level is that they are They're coachable, but

651
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: to some extent they know what they need to do.

652
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: And I look back and if there's one thing I

653
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: could change, I might tweak that a little bit, because

654
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: you could take on too much information in the game

655
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: of baseball. And I think I was sometimes that guy.

656
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: But that was the thing that once I got to

657
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: to Beloyd, that was I was going to represent my

658
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: name and the way that I saw my dad represent it.

659
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: That didn't necessarily I mean, I was going to hit

660
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: three hundred every time, but I certainly was going to

661
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: have a reputation around the game as doing somebody who

662
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: played the game in the right way. Tony Gwyn Junior

663
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: played for four major league teams. He finished with a

664
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: career batting average of two thirty eight. In two thousand

665
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: and nine with the Padres, he hit two seventy He

666
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: had one hundred and six hits, eleven doubles, six triples,

667
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: two home runs, twenty one RBIs, and stole eleven bases.

668
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: Here's more from Tom Verducci Tony Gwyn Junior and your

669
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: thoughts on him and his career. I mean, you know,

670
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: here's a guy who had eight years in the big

671
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: being Tony Gwen Junior, which is in his own right

672
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: pretty impressive, but you know, living into the shadow of

673
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: one of the greatest pure hitters of all time, you know,

674
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: but seems to have a great head on his shoulders

675
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: and a great sense of understanding that his role, more

676
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: than anything is to continue his father's legacy. Is that

677
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: your sense as well? Yeah? I do, because when you

678
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: mentioned Tony Gwyn Junior, I think not that he wasn't

679
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: a really good player, as you mentioned, for a lot

680
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: longer than people thought, but I think about him being

681
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: his father's son I mean someone that you just want

682
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: to be around, smile on the face, looking on the

683
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: bright side of things. So to me, that's the legacy

684
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: between father and son. No one was going to live

685
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: up to the legacy as a hitter of Tony gwyn

686
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 1: We might never see a hitter like Tony Gwynn again,

687
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: and that's not an exaggeration because of how the game

688
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: has changed. So asking the son to have a kind

689
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: of career that his father had, that's just it's not fair.

690
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: But certainly to live up to the Gwynn family name.

691
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: Junior has done that really well. By the way, he's

692
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: a really good broadcaster too. We've come to the part

693
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 1: of Tony gwyn Junior's career where things get a little complicated.

694
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: On September twenty ninth, two thousand and seven, with two

695
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: games left in the season, on a Saturday in Milwaukee,

696
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: Junior's worlds collide. Worth noting before we get back to Junior,

697
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: John Moores was the owner of the Padres at that

698
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: time and September twenty eight, I'm told you asked the

699
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: owner of the Padres for a flight home. Hey can

700
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: I get a flight? Tell me? Let's before we get

701
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: to September twenty Let's go to September twenty eighth. So

702
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: Padres are they should have already clinched if if I'm

703
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: being honesty, they didn't play in the series before. I

704
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: think it was against the Rockies. Well, and then they

705
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: came to us. Now, this is the first season that

706
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: we've been even at five hundred and I think since

707
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: eighty two for Milwaukee, and so it was a big

708
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: deal for it. Actually we're still in playoff contention and

709
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: we get a sweep of the Padres. We got a

710
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: chance to at the Wild Car. They basically eliminate us

711
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: that first night on the twenty eighth, I believe, And

712
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: so at that point my mom was like, well, you

713
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: could ask the more it feel if you could ride

714
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: back with him as opposed because I was. I was sweating,

715
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: like I didn't really want to fly home. I hated

716
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: to flight from Milwaukee to San Diego for whatever reason.

717
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: And my mom was like, you can ask them. The

718
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: worst they can say is no. So after we got eliminated,

719
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: I walked over to mister Moore's and its like, is

720
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 1: there a chance I could fly back with you guys tomorrow?

721
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, sure, Uh and so you know

722
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: that was that I was. That was that was already

723
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: set in motion before the next day. So I'm expecting

724
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: my bags are packed. I'm expecting to uh fly home

725
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: that following day with them after the game. So that's

726
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: how that's how that whole thing started. So back to

727
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: that Saturday, the Padres season still matters. The Brewers have

728
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: been eliminated. You didn't start the game. There was a

729
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 1: chance you'd be pinch hitter. Uh, Padres are up three two,

730
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: I believe. Ninth inning, Trevor strikes out Prince Fielder. Uh

731
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: that's Nicks gets he nicks it gets out. Yeah, he

732
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: strikes out, following it back and then I'm up. So

733
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: go back mentioned that I didn't start to I was

734
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: pissed that I did to start. In my mind, I'm like,

735
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: we're eliminated from the season. Let's get some of these

736
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: Let's get some let some of the young guys play.

737
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: But in ned Jose's defense, we hadn't finished that five hundred.

738
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: He was dead set on trying to get us to

739
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: finish above five hundred, and so I was upset. Like

740
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: the entire game basically, as I'm watching and you can

741
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 1: kind of see what was I can kind of see

742
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: what's unfolding in front of me. This is even before

743
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: you know they tell me I'm pitch hitting. We get

744
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: the I think we got the first two guys on.

745
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: Trevor comes in and punches out. It might have been Prince,

746
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but he definitely punched out lands Nicks

747
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: before me. And by the time he punched out last Nikes,

748
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm in the on deck cercer and as I go

749
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: out on the on deck circle, I'm thinking to myself, Man,

750
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: it'd be pretty amazing if I if I come up

751
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: with a hit here somehow we take the lead, or

752
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: we tied off of Trevor. I know they're about they

753
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: have a chance of clinch today, and so I'm thinking,

754
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: this is this is the irony of this whole situation

755
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: right now. It just seems crazy, and sure enough Lance

756
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: punches out now again. The mere fact that I've been

757
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: around Trevor at this point so long. I mean, I

758
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: think he came over in ninety four, nine, five ninety

759
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: five maybe, so I've known him from that point until

760
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, so I've known him about twelve years,

761
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: and I've seen him pitch more than a lot in

762
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: that time frame. Like I've seen how he's pitching at

763
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: this point, Like I know what's I have a pretty

764
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: good idea of what I'm gonna see. He had literally

765
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: just thrown Lance knicks like four straight change ups in

766
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: a row. So I come up to the plate and

767
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: I mean he grew up in that locker room, and

768
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: I've read a bunch of different articles essentially you know,

769
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 1: he was enamored by you. I mean Tony Gwyn Junior. Yeah,

770
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: he had his dad and his dad as his dad,

771
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: but he really looked you were really an uncle figure

772
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: to Tony Gwyn Junior and probably still are. Well. I'm

773
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: honored to hear that, no doubt, And it's it's I

774
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: think that was the beauty of getting to grow up

775
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: in a clubhouse. And from my standpoint, I was I

776
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: couldn't wait and see the little kids run around, you know,

777
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: like there was I was closer in age to him,

778
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: and I probably wasn't his dad, and so that part

779
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: of it being said, it's like I enjoyed the the

780
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: youthfulness that he would bring and Brett would bring boats

781
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: a kid, because I didn't know Greg too quickly at

782
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: that time. But Brett would come down and those two

783
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: were thick us thieves and they would run all over

784
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: the qualcom and they'd be out banging practice and you shagging,

785
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: and you know, they had just brought a lot of

786
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: joy to the clubhouse. And it kept us, it kept

787
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: us grounded to a degree. It's like, hey, this is

788
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: a profession. There's time when you need to turn it on.

789
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: But it was almost like being at home and you know,

790
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: the little guys are running around and you have fun

791
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: with him, and then he goes off and does the

792
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: amazing things that Paley is a high school basketball player

793
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: and baseball player and the standout at Sanio State does

794
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: his things in professional baseball. And then blow and behold,

795
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: I'm towards the end of my career and trying to

796
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: save a postseason game, and gets who I'm facing. I'm

797
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: facing the little kid in the locker room that's now

798
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: a man. And hold on one second, hold on, let's stop,

799
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: will hold as you before you get up to the plate.

800
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: So just even, just even like what did you get?

801
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: You know? The Nedjo says, hey, he say, t you're

802
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: gonna hit if we get to your spot. Said all right,

803
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: So I got my helmet on, and as I'm walking

804
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: up the steps, I'm like, ohoo, like I can you

805
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: know you start you start getting those I always had

806
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: nerves regardless how long I played, but it was like

807
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: they were a little anxious this time because I know

808
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: what's going on. Dres are out in front of me,

809
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: and I always wanted to play well against him anyway.

810
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: It was just like one of those things, the hometown team.

811
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: You want to play well against them as much as possible.

812
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: So um, I remember coming up after that Lance strikes out,

813
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: I kind of take a deep breath. Do you ever

814
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 1: make eyes? Do you ever make eyes with Trevor while

815
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: you're on the on deck circle? Does he ever look

816
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: over to see if you've got it? Like? Do you

817
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: ever even? Nah? Because I knew I wasn't gonna I

818
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: knew he wasn't gonna be looking, and once once I

819
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: got into the box, I knew he was gonna be

820
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: all business. So I didn't even look to try to

821
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: make contact with him. And so uh, and you you

822
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: had faced him before, you I know you you know

823
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: you had gotten to hit off them before, like you

824
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: obviously you know there was one. I was one for

825
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: two of them. I think going into that at back

826
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: and so, um, how you get to the plate? I

827
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: get to the plate and first pitch change up, I take, uh,

828
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: second pitch change up, I foul off off all I

829
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: might have took to get a third pitch, I fouled

830
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: it off. And so it's one and two right now.

831
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: He at this point, I think he's thrown something like

832
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: between nine and twelve straight changeups, like he hasn't thrown

833
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: anything else. But in the back, is there any like storry?

834
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: But we're like, as you get up to the plate

835
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: and you're looking at business like uncle Trevor kind of

836
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: a thing, right Like I mean, do you guys have

837
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: a smirk or a smile or a you know, like no, No,

838
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: this is his all business. It's his business. It's all business.

839
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: It's all business. Possible also because I'm trying to finish

840
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: the season a good note, Like I love Trevor and

841
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: all that, but I got a job to try to keep.

842
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: I'm trying to finish at two sixty, you know, for

843
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: the season. I believe it was I'm a little bit

844
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: below that. At this point. It was minimum it bat

845
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 1: so it was all business. Once I got in there,

846
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: I knew in order to even have a chance, I

847
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: had to I had to be My concentration level had

848
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: to be perfect. And so it gets to that one

849
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: to count, and he's thrown a lot of change hips

850
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: in a row, and I could just hear my dad's

851
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: voice in the back of my head saying, hey, make

852
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: sure you're ready for the fastball. Just down to everything else.

853
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: Even though I knew in my heart or hearts, the

854
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: fourth pitch that he was gonna throw it was gonna

855
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: be another change up. I did not want it. I

856
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: didn't the thing. I did not want to have it,

857
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: and I wanted to blow a fastball body. So I

858
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: was ready for the fastball. But when it came out

859
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: of his hand, I just remember thinking to me myself,

860
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: that ball is a little bit more elevated. If I

861
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 1: can just stay here and hold my ground long enough,

862
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: I can, I can put a good swing on it.

863
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: And sure enough, I leak a little bit forward with

864
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: my body, but my hand stayed back and I just

865
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: kind of flipped it down the line U in right field,

866
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: and I knew once it got over Adrian's head, uh,

867
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: there wasn't there. I was gonna have three, and we

868
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: were gonna be a tide game, and it was gonna

869
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: go into it was gonna go into extra innings. That

870
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: was Tony Green Junior's one twenty third at bat in

871
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, his last of the year. It

872
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: was his thirty second hit, his second triple of the season,

873
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: and with that hit he recorded two of his ten RBIs.

874
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 1: That timely triple did, in fact, lift Tony Gwen Junior's

875
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: batting average to two sixty. I'm running around and I

876
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 1: remember I did. It was such an unnecessary head first slide,

877
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: but I'm in the moment. I slide in the third

878
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: give a fist pump, and the first eyes I lock

879
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: onto are the more sitting behind the dugout at third base,

880
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: and the despair in all of their faces was just like,

881
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I can't believe this has happened, you know.

882
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: So I immediately kind of shipped back to the game

883
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: because I don't want them to make eye contact with

884
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: me at that point. And we ended up winning that game,

885
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: and therefore the Padres had to go to that one

886
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: game playoff. And by the way, I was the biggest

887
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: Padre fan for that one game playoff because I knew

888
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: I had to live in San Diego. I was living

889
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: down at Mission Beach, where you got someone to die

890
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: hards down down there, and I was just like, gosh,

891
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to have to have a whole offseason

892
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: of everybody giving me a hard time because I knocked

893
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: up Padres Out another Trevor Hoffman reflection. We have an

894
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: eight pitch battle and it turns where it wasn't so

895
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: great for me, And then I see him in the tunnel.

896
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: I am doing nothing but to give him a hug

897
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: and kind of cry. So you know, it's it's interesting

898
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: how some moments stand out on their own, much like

899
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: the moments I would see him sitting in his dad's

900
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: locker waiting for him to come back from the cage,

901
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: as I see him today at Petco Park coming down

902
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: from the press box after doing his stuff. So it's

903
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: it's an evolution of a friendship and a love for

904
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: a young man, and I'm just proud to call him

905
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: a friend. So where was Tony gwyn Senior at the

906
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: time I was in the press box. He wasn't working

907
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: that day, but he stayed for the game, and I

908
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 1: think people expected him to have some type of disappointment,

909
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: but he had the exact opposite because it was his

910
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: son and he was in there. He was It was

911
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: probably good he wasn't on TV because he was in

912
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: there fist pumping and you know, happy as hek for

913
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 1: me to get that hit. Here's Greg Maddox, the Hall

914
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: of Fame pitcher who played for the Padres in two

915
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: thousand and seven. Did you ever have any interactions or

916
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: stories about Tony gwyn Junior over the years, not Junior,

917
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: not too many? I know he Uh, I didn't really

918
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: Obviously I knew his father pretty well. But you know,

919
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: the only interaction I think was, you know, he got

920
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: that lucky hit down on the line in Milwaukee off

921
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: Trevor that kind of knocked us out of the playoffs,

922
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: or didn't let us clench the playoffs, and I think

923
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: a day later we ended up losing one hundred and

924
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: sixty third game in Colorado. But you know, other than that,

925
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: I didn't, I didn't never didn't really know him too well.

926
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: I knew him a little bit as a hitter. He

927
00:49:54,920 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 1: reminded me of his dad. Obviously, same swing, same swing

928
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: path and all those types of things. But you know,

929
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: you were able to get him to reach just a

930
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: little bit easier than his dad. I didn't realize you

931
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: were on the Podre teen two thousand and seven, so

932
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: that would have been two thousand and seven, correct. So yeah,

933
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: and Tony and Junior tells us that that's where the

934
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 1: end this podcast will end, with the culmination of him

935
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: talking about that story where he's essentially facing Trevor was

936
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: like an uncle to him or a godfather, you know.

937
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: And here he was pinch hit. He comes up, you know,

938
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: knowing that the Podres are trying to make the postseason.

939
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: He gets that hit, Trevor crying in the locker room afterwards,

940
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: and and uh and Tony, mister Padre twenty years you know,

941
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: was rooting for his son. Of course, son before before

942
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: you know, family before baseball. And here's more from Ryan Sandberg. No,

943
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 1: you can't say enough, but what a what a perfect

944
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: scenario in Tony gwyn junior, nice ball player. I actually

945
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: do remember the at bat you're talking about against Trevor

946
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: Hoffman because I had I had had Junior, let's see,

947
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: four or five six years before that at bat in

948
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: Triple A, really got to Norman and watch him play,

949
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: So I remember the moment as well. I was I

950
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: was the other one up there going like that. I

951
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: loved it as well. The scenario having Tony Gwynn Junior

952
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: right there in San Diego and uh and broadcasting and

953
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: talking about his his dad and what he meant to

954
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: the Padres and the whole whole city of San Diego

955
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: and the surrounding areas. I mean, you couldn't ask for

956
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: a better situation to just relive Tony Gwynn and what

957
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: he meant to the Padres and to have his son

958
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: speak about him and be able to share stories. I

959
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,720
Speaker 1: think the fans are in for a treat and couldn't

960
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: ask for a better scenario. And back to Tom Verducci

961
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: on what he remembers about that specific moment in baseball history.

962
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: I remember Trevor being out there, because Trevor is kind

963
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: of like the next generation of mister Podre. I mean,

964
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: Tony gwinn is mister Podre, but Trevor certainly associated with

965
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: that city and that franchise the next most of anyone.

966
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously new Tony gwinns so well himself

967
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: as well, So that had to hurt. It had to hurt.

968
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: Late in the season. I think it might have been

969
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: the final weekend of the season. But the father's pride

970
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: is what stands out for me. You know, blood is

971
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: thicker than you, than your loyalty to the organization that

972
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: you played for. In that case, it's it's that loyalty

973
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: runs deep. But yeah, it just what a storybook finished.

974
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: I mean, not for Hoffman, but for the Gwinns there

975
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: to enjoy a hit like that, you know, against anybody,

976
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: but against the Padres, I wouldn't even say it's bitter sweet.

977
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: I mean the father had to be super proud of

978
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 1: his son coming through like that. Doesn't that say every

979
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: everything that? Absolutely, mister Podre was was miss Potter, He's

980
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 1: mister Potter. But when it came to his son, it

981
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: was Sun first. It was some first. I under said.

982
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: It was the same thing when I signed with the Dodgers.

983
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: Like people are like asking him, are you upset about it?

984
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: Are you? Absolutely not? My son has a job, he

985
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: could take care of his family, Like why would I

986
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: be upset about that? That? That to me is that's it.

987
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: That's what it's all. That's what you know. Big Tea

988
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: was proud of Little Tea exactly exactly how was he

989
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: in terms of giving praise. He was awesome. I think

990
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: one of the things I think that as much as

991
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: we were around each other in my young childhood, I

992
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: think really our relationship went to another level when I

993
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: went to Senegal State, because it was really when he

994
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: took over my sophomore year as the hitting coach. It

995
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: was the first time that we were ever around each

996
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: other year round for all of my life, In all

997
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: of my teenage life, it was like six months out

998
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: of the year I got to we got to see

999
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: each other. But when he took over as the hitting coach,

1000
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: he was around and like you know, September or October

1001
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: or November, and then when the season came around in

1002
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: January and February, he was still around, So we got

1003
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: to spend a lot of time. And so I think

1004
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: he got a chance to see me work at my

1005
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: craft and be dedicated to him, and I dedicated to it,

1006
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: and I think I don't think he told me on

1007
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: many occasions how how proud he was of me and

1008
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: how hard I worked at the game, and more importantly,

1009
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: as I had a family. That's I think it was

1010
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: the same thing for him. After three seasons with the Brewers,

1011
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: Tony Gwyn Junior becomes a San Diego Padre. What was

1012
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: that like getting traded to San Diego? I mean, I mean,

1013
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: I don't know that anybody's ever had their dad break

1014
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: the news to them that they're traded. But that's how

1015
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: I found out was my dad called and we're in Portland,

1016
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 1: ironically getting ready to play the Padre's Triple A team

1017
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: at the time, and he calls me in the morning

1018
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: and was like, you're sitting down and I'm sitting there

1019
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: having breakfast with a teammate of mine. He goes, yeah,

1020
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: I'm sitting down and I'm like, what's up. You didn't

1021
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: never call me this earlier, Like, so I'm kind of

1022
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: a little worried, like what are you about to tell me?

1023
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: He's like, well, you've been traded, and and he's like

1024
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: going crazy and crazy. I was like how do he first?

1025
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: I was like, how do you know this? And he said, yoga.

1026
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: Chris called me and he said that they made a

1027
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: trade for you. You're gonna be heading home San Diego,

1028
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: so go go upstairs packing stuff. I'm like, my manager

1029
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: is sitting right next to me. He hasn't told me.

1030
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: So he's like, all right, well, just hang tight. To him,

1031
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's going to tell you soon. So we

1032
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: hang up the phone, and the first thing that crossed

1033
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: my mind was, you know, you read all of these

1034
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: you read all these different crazy things about trades getting canceled,

1035
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, I got an opportunity to go home.

1036
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: I do not want to blow this by knowing information

1037
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: too early. So I when Don Money, who was our

1038
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: manager at the time, and I said, when he tells me,

1039
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pretend like I know nothing because I don't

1040
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 1: want anything to be taken away or you know. And

1041
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: so about five minutes later, his phone rings and he

1042
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: calls me over and he's like, hey, man, you've been traded.

1043
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, really, we're too, like, you know, just completely

1044
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: trying to play dumb San Diego, go pack your stuff.

1045
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: So I fly into San Diego and that day they

1046
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: had already started, like I got there in the bottom

1047
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: of the first by the time my flight landed. So

1048
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: it's one of the only times I've ever met my

1049
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: teammates while the game was going on. So they're trying

1050
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: to concentrate on a game. I'm trying to meet everybody,

1051
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 1: you know, but is managing the team he introduced himself,

1052
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: and so from that point on, it was just kind

1053
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 1: of like Latin. The next week was kind of a whirlwind.

1054
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: But then I settled in and it started to it

1055
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 1: started to go in the right direction for me. Tony

1056
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: gwyn Junior played two seasons for the pod Race, then

1057
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: two for the Dodgers, and finished his major league career

1058
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen with the Phillies. Now you're here doing

1059
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: what you're doing and being who you're being, and uh,

1060
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: you know, having such a presence in the community, and

1061
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: I would imagine that's all that's got to be so

1062
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: fitting and feel so good for you to have this

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00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: opportunity to carry your father's torch and you know, keep

1064
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: going with his namesake and his impact on and that's

1065
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: that's that's everything. Like I I struggled when he first passed,

1066
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: a struggle with knowing what it was I was supposed

1067
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: to do to keep his legsy, what that looked like,

1068
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, And uh, you know, over the last six

1069
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: six seven years since he's passed, it's kind of it's

1070
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: kind of come into focus a little a lot more

1071
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: and it has been enjoyed. It does feel good to

1072
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: to have an impact on people's life one way or another,

1073
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: and it doesn't necessarily have to be through baseball, you know.

1074
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: And I just think that's what my dad would be wanting,

1075
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: would want me to be doing right now. Isn't it

1076
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: cool that Tony Gwen Junior gets to do Tony Gwen

1077
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: Senior proud? You know? And that's that's that's ultimately, I

1078
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: think what all sons or daughters want to do is

1079
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: they want to make their parents proud. I know I

1080
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: get to hear it from my mom, but I feel

1081
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: pretty confident that my dad would feel the same way.

1082
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: Does she say your father would be proud of you?

1083
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: Or she does? She tells me that all the time,

1084
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: and you know that you I mean, it is it's

1085
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: it's it's truly, Um, one of those things were you know,

1086
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: you just you just you just absorb it because that's

1087
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: that's that's the feeling that you know. I know if

1088
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: my dad was around, and I would have did you

1089
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: get to tell him a lot how proud of you

1090
00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: you were of him? Absolutely? I I tried to say

1091
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: those things often, um, And I thinks I've always been

1092
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: a you know, when his father passed away at an

1093
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: early age, as I got older. That was something that

1094
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: was always in the back of my mind. So I

1095
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: didn't want to ever like have any like regrets that

1096
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: I never told him those type of things. So I

1097
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: told him that all the time. So I'm sure they

1098
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: was siding where he was uncomfortable. I was telling him

1099
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: that often, but I did. I tried to at least.

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Speaker 1: Tony gwyn Junior has four children, three daughters, Mikaela Jordan

1101
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: Leyton and one son, Anthony Keith Gwynn. The third what

1102
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: was he called Papa? Yeah, Papa is was what my youngest,

1103
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: my all my daughters and even my son who never

1104
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: had a chance to meet my my dad, he calls

1105
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: him Papa, And uh, what do you miss the most?

1106
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: I missed talking to him. I mean we had a

1107
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: type of relationship where Ice talked to him pretty much

1108
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: every day, like, and it didn't have to necessarily be

1109
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: about baseball. A lot of times it was about baseball.

1110
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: I'd be like, Dad, I can't hold my ground or

1111
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: my swing is so effed up. I can't I can't

1112
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: figure it out. But I just missed the normal conversations

1113
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: with him. I mean, at this point we'd probably be

1114
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: talking about Lakers we'd be talking about the padres. Obviously,

1115
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: now I missed those. I missed those conversations. That's it

1116
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: for episode two of this tribute series to Tony Gwynn,

1117
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: but there's more. In episode three, we find out if

1118
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: Tony gwyn Junior got that flight home with the Moors,

1119
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: and we get back to our panel of Hall of

1120
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: famers for more reflections on Tony Gwynn Senior his twenty

1121
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: years in One City. We highlight some more of his

1122
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: insane stats, most notably his flirt with four hundred. It's

1123
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: pretty confident he would have got it, and it's because

1124
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: of that he he wasn't. These weren't. This wasn't a

1125
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: hot streak, Like from June on. He was unbelievable. I

1126
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: think he had something like three or four three hit

1127
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: games in that in that that's that span, and he

1128
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: was locked in. Like I have saw a lot of

1129
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: my dad's at bats. I saw him to get hot

1130
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: many of times, but nothing ever remotely close to this.

1131
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: Put another log on the fire. Everybody heres get the

1132
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: time