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Speaker 1: Advice Sugar. Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Naughty but Night Show. I'm your host Strong Shooter with

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Speaker 1: my friend de Lana Dixon from Diva Gals Daily. Delena,

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Speaker 1: how are you, my friend? I'm doing wonderful. How are

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Speaker 1: you doing today? Very good? New York misses you. We

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Speaker 1: started to open yesterday. I know I was thinking about you.

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Speaker 1: Were so lucky because of what we do for a living.

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Speaker 1: De Lena and I would get two, three different invites

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Speaker 1: each night to go to these parties and meet celebrities

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Speaker 1: and talk to them, interview them. Just think it will

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Speaker 1: come back to Lena. I think it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: while before we go to another party, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the world has changed, It's going to be a new normal.

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Speaker 1: People are getting used to having these events on zoom.

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Speaker 1: But at some point, I think in one, I mean,

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Speaker 1: people love a red carpet. They've got to come back

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Speaker 1: at some boy. I hope, so, I hope. So I

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Speaker 1: miss our lives. I hope it's back, and I miss

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Speaker 1: you terribly, but I love doing these with you once

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Speaker 1: a week. You know what, tell him in his Delna

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Speaker 1: it is it is indeed, So let's spilled the team

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Speaker 1: Nini Leaks is causing trouble. She's accusing celebrities of using

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Speaker 1: the protests as a PR stunt. That's right. The Real

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Speaker 1: Housewife of Atlanta is saying that celebrities out there are

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Speaker 1: using these protests to get themselves attention. She alleges that

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Speaker 1: they don't really care about the cause at all. She said,

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Speaker 1: they're acting like they care, but really it's a front

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Speaker 1: and she's not there for it. She thinks certain stars

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Speaker 1: are pretending to be involved but do not care less

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Speaker 1: and they should stop it. She's also threatened to call

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Speaker 1: some of them out. She's not given any names. What

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Speaker 1: do you think, mr? You? Oh well, Rob, you know,

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Speaker 1: we have spies everywhere, so mine are telling me that

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Speaker 1: she's actually calling out one of her show nemesis, and

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Speaker 1: that would be Cynthia Billy. Now we how spotted Cynthia

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Speaker 1: out at protests. But I've been thinking about this, meanie,

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Speaker 1: and I have to tell you, this is not a

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Speaker 1: People are out there fighting for equality for black lives,

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Speaker 1: much like myself, much like you. And you know, if

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Speaker 1: Cynthia or whomever is out there and wants to march.

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Speaker 1: I think it's important. You know, they want to make

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Speaker 1: a statement and to be perfectly honest, it seems a

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Speaker 1: little petty on your part. You want to call out

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Speaker 1: people for not being authentic about the march, and yet

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Speaker 1: you calling out people seems a little bit like a

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Speaker 1: PR stunt in itself. It does. Several friends, several people

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Speaker 1: in the business, publicist managers of the reporters have said

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Speaker 1: this to me too. They said that one meanie is

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Speaker 1: doing appears to be exactly what she's accusing other people

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Speaker 1: of doing. And we certainly know these housewives do enjoy

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Speaker 1: a PR stunts. They're not above it. What do you

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Speaker 1: think though, to Lena, I know we we've spoke about this.

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Speaker 1: There's certain pr agencies and places that haven't really been

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Speaker 1: inviting the black press two events and now they are.

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Speaker 1: Haven't you had some personal experience with that? What's going

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Speaker 1: on we have I'm not going to name any names,

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Speaker 1: but especially when dealing with Brett Press, you can look

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Speaker 1: at pictures and see that when an event happens, there

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Speaker 1: are no black people represented there. So this one company, uh,

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Speaker 1: they said that they were supporting Black Lives Matter. We

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Speaker 1: called them out on it and said, you haven't invited

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Speaker 1: us in the past, and I would say that our

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Speaker 1: wording was a little maybe it was a little harsh,

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Speaker 1: But they responded and said, we're not taking down this post.

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Speaker 1: We want to speak to you directly. We want to

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Speaker 1: solve the problem. So if it's creating a dialogue, I'm

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Speaker 1: so happy for that. But you know what, you should

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Speaker 1: have made the change a long time ago, when we

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Speaker 1: told you two years ago, when we told you three

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Speaker 1: years ago that this was a problem. It's sad to

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Speaker 1: think that a man's death is what's making the change now,

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Speaker 1: you're right. Mist This brings us to our poll of

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Speaker 1: the day. Nini Leaks is accusing celebrities of using the

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Speaker 1: protests as a PR stunt. Is she onto something? Yes

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Speaker 1: or no? Go to our Twitter page at Naughty Nice

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Speaker 1: Rob or our Facebook page Naughty Gossip, leave a comments, vote,

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Speaker 1: and be sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results. Mister,

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Speaker 1: what's going on with Chloe Kardashian. Chloe Kardashian, She's a

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Speaker 1: little confused by Cynthia Arrivo right now. So you know

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Speaker 1: a great film. Well, Cynthia posted on her social media

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Speaker 1: a comedian and she has four pictures of Chloe and

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Speaker 1: I will say, they do look different in each photo.

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Speaker 1: And the woman she's pretending, this comedian is pretending to

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Speaker 1: be an African lady. And she basically says, wait a second,

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Speaker 1: that's all the same person. It cannot be. She says,

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Speaker 1: is this community of women that I'm looking at that

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Speaker 1: They didn't that that. It was hilarious, and Chloe's not

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Speaker 1: too crazy about Cynthia saying, What's what's Chloe saying? So basically,

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Speaker 1: you know what. Chloe's used to people making fun of

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Speaker 1: her looks or commenting on how she looks. She's very

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Speaker 1: body confident. Even when she put up this latest picture

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Speaker 1: but she is confused. Why is an OSCAR winner taking

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Speaker 1: time out of her busy schedule to make fun? Sorry?

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Speaker 1: So why is an Oscar people make fun of you

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Speaker 1: and meet all the time? Delane, And I think We're

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Speaker 1: both very good at laughing at ourselves. However, it does

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Speaker 1: hurt when a pr when somebody I really respect good grief,

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Speaker 1: like an Oscar Nomine, that would sting a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Why're doing this? Well, you know what Cynthia is. We

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Speaker 1: know her name, but not everybody knows her face. You know,

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Speaker 1: she comes from England. She's starting to climb the ranks

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Speaker 1: in America. Maybe she thought, you know, it was funny,

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Speaker 1: retweet it, and this way Cynthia could get a little

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Speaker 1: somewhere that was very, very sad. Melissa Ethridge is returning

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Speaker 1: his death. Now she's back on social media with a

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Speaker 1: It's been very healing to her. She also knows that

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Speaker 1: only time will try and help her broken heart, and

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Speaker 1: and I believe when the music comes out, it's all

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Speaker 1: to hear it in her music, in her voice, and

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Speaker 1: that's the way you heal yourself. Rob you love to

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Speaker 1: listen to music to get yourself feeling better. I do.

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Speaker 1: I listen to music to change my mood. If I'm

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Speaker 1: to music. Me and de Lena used to have a

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Speaker 1: blasting Barry Manilow or a show too, and it put

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Speaker 1: me in a good mood. It was actually Arianna Huffington

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Speaker 1: thought it was silly and sort of like gobbledee gooch.

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Speaker 1: from the eighties, which is when I grew up. Changed

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Speaker 1: my entire day. You love music, to Delena, Do you

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Speaker 1: know I love a karaoke song. I have to stay

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Speaker 1: I've been spending a lot of time dancing on a

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Speaker 1: Britney Spears song and I will just get the nephews

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Speaker 1: and we will just rock out, and it really changes

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Speaker 1: sitting at your desk, you're working with your kids. You

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Speaker 1: your legs, put on your favorite song, moved to the beat,

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Speaker 1: nobody's watching, have a good time feeling it totally works.

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Speaker 1: What's happening with Ms Kylie Jenna Minsty Well? This is

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Speaker 1: so interesting. So we know Kylie Jenner, she owns Kylie Cosmetics,

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Speaker 1: black employees you have. Why is this important? Because if

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Speaker 1: stepping up to the challenge. Let me give you the numbers.

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Speaker 1: So she says percent of her staff is black, seven

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Speaker 1: Did you add up those three numbers? But what Clie

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Speaker 1: just black for me, Like when I check a box

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Speaker 1: it says black, not Latina, not Native American, just Black America.

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Speaker 1: That makes sense. It is so important on the show.

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Speaker 1: We try so hard to be diverse. Delena. Just having

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Speaker 1: has really really changed the way I think to about celebrities.

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Speaker 1: I mean, on a very deep level, also a shallow level.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard of Black China until Delayeda literally put

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Speaker 1: her on the telephone with me. I think it's really

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Speaker 1: important and your life is better for it if you

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Speaker 1: surround yourself by a really diverse group. Delena, do you

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Speaker 1: I've grown up in neighborhoods. I grew up actually in

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Speaker 1: You know you're gay, and it was a great opportunity.

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Speaker 1: When I have a question about the gay community, I

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, and and I think that's so important The

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Speaker 1: way you change your mind is by having different people

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Speaker 1: You're not always going to agree, but at least you

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Speaker 1: It's not like we used them at school than I do.

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Speaker 1: It's actually a joy. A joy of my life is

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Speaker 1: knowing so many different people. It's a total joy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: will be right back. Welcome back to them. Naughty but

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Speaker 1: nice show. I'm robbed shooting with my friend Delena Dixon

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Speaker 1: de Lena. Let's get to the polls very official. So

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Speaker 1: You're right as always, You're you're you're absolutely right here

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Speaker 1: And now miss d as our nicest. Well, I'm going

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Speaker 1: Naughty noughty, naughty, naughty, naughty, so naughtious of the day

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Speaker 1: And I have to take a moment out to thank you, Rob,

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Speaker 1: times you don't I don't have it. It's okay. We

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Speaker 1: much for listening to Naughty but Nice with Rob, a

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Speaker 1: if you're going to leave Naughty, you've got to be nice.

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