1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: One hell of an offer. Let's play ball. Welcome in 2 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: everybody to fantasy pros. 3 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: This is leading off Rock to you by bet MGM, 4 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: the King of sports Books. It's me Joey p jop 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: Zapia with me is the Welsh and of course we've 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: got a lot to talk about today. Yesterday was the 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: MLB First Year Player Draft, very exciting stuff, and we 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: got the man, mister Prospect one to break it all 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: down for us. Tell us about the top picks, the 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: rest of the picks that he liked, the ones he didn't, 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: why Jim Kallis's suit was so large, all of those 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: things we're gonna talk about today. We're also going to 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 2: talk about another Chris Sale injury. My goodness, poor Chris Sale. 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: I think you just put himself in bubble wrap the 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: rest of the season. And also Welsh, we gotta start 16 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: with the big news, which is the Nationals offered Juan 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: Soto four hundred and forty million dollars and it was 18 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: not enough to stay in Washington, so thumbs down from 19 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 2: one to one. So, uh, I guess we got to 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: start there. I mean, it's open Wan Sodo season now 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: for the rest of Major League Baseball. They're taking trade offers. 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: The question is when will he end up somewhere else? 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: Is it is? 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: It? 25 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: Really didn't we do this bit Like earlier in the year, 26 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 4: We're like, come on, I'm not gonna trade We're not 27 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 4: gonna I'm not gonna trade one Soto get out of 28 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 4: here with this nonsense. 29 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: But it is big news. 30 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 4: You drop, you know, a four hundred million dollar deal 31 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 4: and Soto says, Nope, no thanks. 32 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: I still is a part of me that does not think. 33 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 4: This is completely over. One of the main problems with 34 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 4: it was it was backloaded, which he didn't want, and 35 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 4: it was front loaded on lower av and. 36 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: I just it didn't make sense. I know why they 37 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: did it. 38 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 4: They've got a horrifically bad stephn Strousberg contract that's sitting 39 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 4: out there, so it makes sure sense why they went 40 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 4: and did that. But regardless of the point, that's not 41 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 4: the conversation to have. The conversation to have is who 42 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: is gonna go out there and get him? Who could 43 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 4: possibly get him? And I believe there were four teams that. 44 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: Were named Joe. 45 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 4: You had the New York Mets, the New York Yankees, 46 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: the Dodgers, and the Cardinals. Were the four teams that 47 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 4: are already being attached to Juan Soto. As Soto unfortunately 48 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 4: came out and also said he was pretty disappointed that 49 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 4: this happened. Somebody noted over, Yes, sure, I think it 50 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 4: was on Sunday that he was like, you're most appointed. 51 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 4: You don't want that out. You don't want that, especially 52 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 4: if a deal gets done. You don't want that to 53 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 4: end up happening. But let me ask you, likelihood now 54 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 4: that you think Juan Soto is traded, not just at 55 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 4: the deadline, I think that is premature at this point, 56 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 4: but what are the odds you think he actually is 57 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 4: going to get moved? 58 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 2: And by the deadline? I think it's done by the deadline. Well, 59 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: because the longer you wait, you know, the longer you wait, 60 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: you always there's always catastrophe with injury, right, that could 61 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: always be looming any minute you blow an ACL or 62 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: something like that happens, right. I think that with the 63 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: years remaining on his contract currently and how that structure 64 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: the control you have over Juan Soto for a few years, 65 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: and then the possibility of wanting to extend him, the 66 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: biggest buy you can make right now in terms of 67 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: prospect Hall Is to do it now, don't wait. It's 68 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: a lost season. The Nats are not going to get 69 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: any better this year. They're probably not gonna get any 70 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: better next year. At least you can start to sell 71 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: the fan base next year is hey, we moved Wan Soto, 72 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: We're rebuilding. 73 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: We're in full rebuild. 74 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 2: Catch the rising stars like Francisco Alvarez and Ventos and 75 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: Ran Precio or anybody else that the Mets want to 76 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: give them. 77 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: How about that and Brett Baty. 78 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: Catch all the rising stars at the Nationals Ballpark next year. 79 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: And I think the Mets are the leading contenders because 80 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: I think they have the combination of owner desire to 81 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: spend the money and it doesn't care the desire of 82 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: I think Juan Soto to be in a big market, 83 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: the prospects to get it done. I think the yankees 84 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: big handcuff is not the Volpies and Dominguez and the 85 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: guys that they could move, because they could, but it's 86 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: selling to the fan base. Then, okay, you have to 87 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: own choose between Aaron Judge and Juan So do I 88 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: feel like you have to choose? Man? 89 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 4: I don't think the Yankees have never had problems with that. 90 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: They the jetered fan favorite, and they brought in Alex 91 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 4: Rodriguez they've never had. 92 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: But they didn't do it despite getting rid of Derek Jeter. 93 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: I don't I think it's either or, and I think 94 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: it's gonna be really tough to sell Aaron Judge, their 95 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: hometown guy who's been there the whole time, and say, 96 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: you know what, here you go, fan base, we're gonna 97 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: move on with Aaron Judge. We're gonna we're gonna go 98 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: wan So too instead, even though that's probably the better 99 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: baseball move. 100 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: I just think that's a tough sell. 101 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 2: I don't think we wouldn't get it done with the 102 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: Cold contract, the Stanton contract, and what they have on 103 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: the books for a couple of other guys. 104 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: It really don't. 105 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 4: Wonky in the chat said the thing that I've been 106 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 4: holding the most, like, can they really move him in 107 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 4: the NL East. 108 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 3: I can't imagine they got to get him at divisionally. Now, 109 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: if they did. 110 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: That, that's overblown. With the extra wildcard now, I don't 111 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: need the division. I think the division stuff has been 112 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 2: grossly devalued when you've added in more wildcard situations and 113 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: you expanded playoffs because now it's like, well, you know, 114 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,679 Speaker 2: because they'll make the playoffs, Like, who cares about the division? 115 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: Let's get the best haul to me then, as Paul 116 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: right now. 117 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 4: Well, okay, I I think the Mets do offer if 118 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 4: Alvarez is out there. They have Alex Ramirez, They've got all. 119 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 4: They just drafted a kid in the draft who had 120 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 4: been targeted to the Nationals for months, Kevin Prada, who 121 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 4: is one of the best deeals of the draft. 122 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 3: The Mets did. 123 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 4: And Georgia they think that no, no, that I no, 124 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 4: he's just gonna stay at catcher and he's got a 125 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 4: real mudo likeness to him, where Alvarez is going to 126 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 4: be more of a date or have two. So you 127 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 4: create an extra extra flexibility if you wanted to make 128 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 4: that move with a player that they love, trade Turner rule, 129 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 4: you could trade him, but it's got to be the 130 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 4: player to be named later, and. 131 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 3: It happens in the offseason. I think it is. 132 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 4: But I gotta tell you, I think you said ninety 133 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 4: nine percent by the deadline. I am a sixty fifty 134 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 4: to sixty percent at this deadline. I don't think they 135 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 4: need to make any crazy moves. Things can change easy. 136 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 4: If ownership can change over, I think that's creating some 137 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 4: of the craziness to it. I would say fifty percent 138 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 4: at best by the deadline, and I think the medsale. 139 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: Talk about ownership change, then it's one hundred percent, because 140 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: when you buy the team, you're gonna want to buy 141 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 2: it at a point where you have the least amount 142 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: of salary, and everything is then just. 143 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: Just pushed up there. 144 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 145 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: To me, ownership's looking at this is like, if we're 146 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: going to sell the team, we do it now, because 147 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: from the business of baseball, to me, that makes the 148 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: most sense. And I honestly think the Nats might be 149 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: a better team. And it's a year or tater now 150 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: with all those MLB ready prospects. You if you're gonna 151 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 2: put Alvarez at first base or d HM or whatever 152 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: the heck you're gonna do with him, if you're gonna 153 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: have a baby at third and he got Mauricio a 154 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: short stuff like all of a sudden, you know, with 155 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 2: kyber Ruiz and Josiah Gray and some of these other pieces, 156 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 2: maybe you're starting to get somewhere. If you're the Nats 157 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: and you have a good young team that's at least, 158 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: you're not going anywhere with just mon Sodo. 159 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: You're just not. 160 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 2: I mean it's the same thing with the Texas Rangers 161 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: Alex Rodriguez back in the day. 162 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: You're just not. 163 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 2: And I think this last one that it was so 164 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: public that he said no and they get it in season. 165 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: I think there was they were kind of like, look, 166 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: we need to or get off the pot here. And 167 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: I think they've gotten off the pot, and obviously it's 168 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: time to make that movement. 169 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: I think it's going to happen. It really did. 170 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 4: I mean, but they just offered him almost half a 171 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 4: billion dollars. So it's like, I think we're making a 172 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 4: little too much about like, oh, hey, this that the 173 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: other they would they would have to get rid of 174 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: the money offered half a billion dollars like a week ago. 175 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 4: So I don't think that just changes all of a sudden. 176 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,119 Speaker 4: If the team believes they cannot get him, they should 177 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: go out and they should get a haul. They should 178 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: at least especially with a control. And that's this is 179 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 4: where you're talking about. This is two sides. The twenty 180 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 4: twenty four control for Soto makes the asset you can 181 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 4: get at this deadline exponential but I'd also say at 182 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 4: the beginning of next year, in this offseason. 183 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 3: Both of those are the time periods where. 184 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 4: Teams aren't going to be able to talk you off 185 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 4: the ledge of like you know, Alvarez and three other big. 186 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: Prospects for the Mets. 187 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 4: But at the same time, this is why I think 188 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 4: it's a less percentage that it's going to be at 189 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 4: the deadline, is because you still have two more years 190 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 4: of control. So much can change in that time that 191 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 4: I just don't know if it's a case, though. It 192 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,679 Speaker 4: is interesting if you look. They went and took Elijah Green, 193 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 4: who was a huge high school talent, is relatively far away, 194 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 4: you know, three or four years. 195 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: He would be a great piece. 196 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 4: If you added four or five incredible prospects, that National 197 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 4: system could go from a joke to being like a 198 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 4: really solid spot. Elijah Green would be one of those 199 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 4: future talents you build around. So not that it's telling 200 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 4: you take the best players, you don't worry about it, 201 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 4: but you know, the Nationals didn't take Parata. 202 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: Who is a closer to the major league spot. They 203 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: took a high. 204 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 4: School, huge, high end talent, shoot for the moon type 205 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 4: of guy that you would want if soda wasn't around, 206 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 4: But I say fifty percent by the deadline, I'd say 207 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 4: it's more likely in the off season. 208 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: And I as much as the Mets makes sense, I'm 209 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 3: going to off season. 210 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: You run that off season risk, dude, I'm telling you 211 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: run the off season. 212 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: If the longer you wait. 213 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: I mean, the cautionary tale is Frankie Montoss Right now, 214 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: if you're you have, if you're the Nationals, you have 215 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: to say, look what could happened in the blink of 216 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: an eye, all of a sudden, what we thought was 217 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: an asset we could cash in and change, you know, 218 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: the stars here a little bit of the future literally 219 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: and figuratively. Man Like, how do you do that? How 220 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: do you how do you run that risk? Because you 221 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: can't have that? And and look, Wan Soto to me 222 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: makes sense. On the Dodgers, I think that's the other 223 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: team that makes a lot of sense. 224 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: That's that's my team. That's not a lot. 225 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: I mean, the Bets and Freeman contracts are huge and 226 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: long and difficult. 227 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: I mean, so I don't know how they do it though. 228 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: That's my problem. I don't see how it's done with 229 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 3: the Dodgers. 230 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: With don't that's why I keep coming back to the Mets, 231 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: and believe me them who's more negative than me about 232 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: the Mets? 233 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: Nobody? And it just makes sense. They want to pay him. 234 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: They have the prospects, they have the need, they have 235 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: the owner who is so aggressive out there, why not? 236 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: Why not, you know, go out there and they smell 237 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: blood in the water. They are all in right now. 238 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 2: De Grom could opt out next year and all of 239 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: a sudden, it's a very different math. If you have 240 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: de Grom insures it right now, you go all in. 241 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 2: You try to win right now if you're the Mets, 242 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: and I think they're going to and I think and 243 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: I don't think the indivision matters anymore now that the 244 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: expanded playoffs are here. 245 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: I just don't think anybody cares. 246 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 4: The advantage that Sodo could have in this as well 247 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 4: is he's not willing to take any backloaded contract with 248 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 4: the Nationals. I think, for like rightful reasons, he could 249 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: do that with another team. You know, it seemed like 250 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 4: the Dodgers or the Mets that have shown a commitment 251 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 4: to winning, a commitment to money, he could be willing on, 252 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 4: you know, some gajillion dollar deal that he does he 253 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 4: could be willing to backload, so the first three or 254 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 4: four years are quite a bit less, which could help 255 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 4: a team like the Dodgers and trying to figure out 256 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 4: how the hell did they put all these players together. 257 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: By the way, Bets and Freeman are probably backloaded too, 258 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: So I mean, it's gonna be real ugly when those guys. 259 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 4: Are they to get out from out of those But 260 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 4: I just want to point out the Dodgers the first 261 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 4: round pick because they didn't care about the luxury tax 262 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 4: in this past draft. 263 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 3: They didn't have a first round of them to pick 264 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 3: till the fourtieth overall, because how many. 265 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: Times are going to do that? How many years can 266 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: you do that if you're the Dodgers. 267 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: If you're putting out banners as many as it takes, 268 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 4: I don't know. Then he just bought a mansion too. 269 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 4: You have to put those two games together, Joe. He 270 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 4: bought a mansion in La So clearly it's the Dodgers. 271 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you could buy a mansion in LA 272 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: for real estate anyway, Like I said, like who cares, 273 00:10:59,480 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: you know? 274 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: And you can live out there in La. I don't 275 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: in the winter time. 276 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: That's also the place you want to live in the 277 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: off season, you know, no matter where you want to stay. Look, man, 278 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: I do think it's one of these big market cubs. 279 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: I don't think the Cardinals have the pieces to get 280 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: it done. And they're paying Aeronauto and Goldschmid like I don't. 281 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: I think that's a fallacy. 282 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: I really do. 283 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: I think it's the Mets, the Yankees, the Dodgers to 284 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: piss a lot of people off. 285 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just do. And I think the Mets 286 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: have the best opportunity. 287 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: And I think the other cautionary tale here is if 288 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: you're the Nats and you let Bryce Harper walk and 289 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: you end up signing with the Phillies anyway, don't you 290 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: regret if you could have gotten a better deal from somebody. 291 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: In the East not making that move? Right. 292 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: So, if it's gonna happen, if you let Wansoto hit 293 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 2: free agency and Steve Cohen writes a check for half 294 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: a billion dollars and says, I don't really care, it's 295 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: just paper money. 296 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: To me, you might as well get the Hall. You 297 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: might get the Hall. 298 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 4: Divisional reminders, I mean divisions of like al NL is 299 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 4: a lot less now, but like having in division like yours. 300 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 3: I just I think it's a wild move. 301 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 4: I would be shocked at a superstar of this caliber 302 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 4: to be just shipped over to the Mets. Unless again, 303 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 4: unless they absolutely were able to fleece them. Unless you're 304 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 4: going to back and all of them. If they back 305 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 4: up all the Alvarezes, and they back up all the 306 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 4: process the Alvarezes, any of this is a Richie Sexon 307 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 4: like deal, but of good prospects. Okay, then maybe that's 308 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 4: the thing that it takes. I think the Mets are 309 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 4: going to have to pay an extra cost that any 310 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 4: other team will to get one Sodo, and they'll take 311 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 4: the contract back. 312 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: With them too, because they need a DH anyway, So 313 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: they'll take that money off their hands too. It'll be 314 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: Cruz and Sodo. They need a DH in the worst way. 315 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: Maybe you get a little bump out of Cruise. I'm 316 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: telling you right, And you take that contract off their 317 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: hands and any other money any other the guy that 318 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: they don't want its arbitration eligible. You take the Patrick 319 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 2: Corbin contract off their hands. They're not taking the Strasburg contract, 320 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 2: but they might take Corbin that. It wouldn't shock me 321 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 2: if they took that whatever it has to get done. 322 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: Stevie Cohen will get it done. I'm just telling you 323 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: and just for everybody to know too. Yes, eleven am 324 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: all this week here and leading off great conversations about 325 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: Wan Soda. We'll get into other top today. But it's 326 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 2: such a huge one and it's so much damn fun. 327 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: I want to talk about it all day, but yes, 328 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: all week. It's my fault. My kids have camp, so 329 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: I have to pick them up at twelve and there's 330 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 2: two different kids at two different camps, So eleven am 331 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: is the time. This week, the Mariners continued to be amazing. 332 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: They are up to a fourteen game win streak, the 333 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: longest streak heading into an All Star Game in quite 334 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 2: some time. Garrett Cole got twelve k's over seven innings. 335 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: Brendan Lao went four for four with a run score, 336 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: so it's good for that raised offense to get his 337 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: bat back going in the lineup. Austin Noah struck out 338 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: ten guys at eight and the third innings. Ty Frantz 339 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: added to the All Star team, and along with Liam Hendricks, 340 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: a few other relievers I think I saw Jordan Romano 341 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: and Devin Williams also added and Max Meyer. 342 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: Made his debut. It was not a pretty one. Five runs. 343 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: I don't care. It's fine. 344 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: And also, as predicted here on the show, last week, 345 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: Spencer Torklsen was sent down. So let's talk about Torklesen 346 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: getting sent down to the minor leagues before we get 347 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: into the MLB draft stuff. 348 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the right move. 349 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 2: Give I told you, give him the rest of July 350 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: and if it's and if it's going, well, call him 351 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 2: back up August first. 352 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: I mean, this is so easy, well right. 353 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 4: Here, yeah, I mean this Unfortunately, this is a move. 354 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 4: It feels very Kelnick like massive massive. I mean, nobody 355 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 4: has struggled more under two hundred batting average this entire 356 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 4: time he's been up. He's shown really no great sense 357 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 4: of power because he's not making great contact. Strike up 358 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 4: percentage isn't the worst thing in the world, but he's 359 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 4: got to re establish something and hopefully they've got the 360 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 4: hitting coaches to work on this and the miners. I 361 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 4: don't know, man, I'm cautiously optimistic. I suppose the Kelnick stuff, 362 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 4: you know, has me a little bit jaded on him 363 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 4: going into the miners and beating everything up. Maybe a 364 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 4: clean headspace is going to help. But Torkelsen is not 365 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 4: a priority in redraft this year. He might be an 366 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 4: incredibly interesting super pilow in Dynasty. I would not count 367 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 4: him out. I mean, there is thirty five forty plus 368 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 4: power in there, and you know he made it absolutely 369 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 4: living in career off of this at ASU and college. 370 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 4: I mean, you know him and Andrew vaugh where you know, 371 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 4: two of the most prolific bats, not just in like 372 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 4: the Pac twelve, but just in all of it. 373 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: But I would say this would be a. 374 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 4: Really interesting buy by low. But in redraft there's a 375 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 4: gagillion players I would have moved on from. If you haven't, 376 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 4: I'm assuming everybody has. But there's always that thing where 377 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 4: you don't want to release these guys. He is not 378 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 4: in the same camp as Julio and j Rudd. 379 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Chriselle headed back to the IL for many, many weeks, 380 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: probably with a broken pinky finger. 381 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: Just a terrible set of circums. His quote, Yeah, I 382 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: heard him after the game too. 383 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: I don't think we can I don't think we can 384 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: mention it on here. 385 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: We can't say it will just be like beep this 386 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 4: stuff beep beep, beep, beep like a muppet. Yeah, well, 387 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 4: actually I have it here because it's part for the course. 388 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: Think about it. Think about my timeline. It's just been 389 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: blank after blank after blank, just more blank to deal with. 390 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: He's a positive guy, you bet, he's a fun locker around. 391 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: Well, it's it's hard not to mean he's frustrated. I 392 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: get it. I mean he wants to be playing baseball. 393 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: He can't do. It's very frustrating. 394 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: Harold Ramirez removed from Sunday's game due to a broken 395 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: right thumb, so he'll be out for a while. So obviously, 396 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: you know, Ramire has actually been pretty decent for that squad. 397 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden he's going to be out 398 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: for a while, and so Wander Franco is still going 399 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: to be out for a while. A's manager Marcaste said 400 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: Sunday if Frankie Montagh shoulder responded, really. 401 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: Well, everything was great, Everything's so good. Everything's fine. It's fine. 402 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: It's like Han Solo in a New Hope, where he's like, 403 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: it's everything's fine, fine, how are you? That's that's they're 404 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: in the detention area. That's what's happening right now to them. 405 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: We had a provocative discussion Welsh about Mike Trout on 406 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: Sunday on the TV show because the question was asked, 407 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: is Mike Trout still a top ten player in baseball? 408 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: And I and I thought that was you know, at first, 409 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: I went, well, I think we have to dive into 410 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: it and ask so I want to I want to 411 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: pose this for you here. I want to I want 412 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: to do this with you here the guys very easily. 413 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: I think that you would probably take over Mike Trout 414 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: in the next two years, right, I think you still 415 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: want to. 416 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 3: Be talk fantasy, right, tuck fantasy slash reality? Yeah, because 417 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 3: how you phrase that, I feel like slacking real. 418 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: He's still a top ten player. I mean, if you're 419 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: a top ten player in baseball, you're a top ten 420 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: player in fantasy pretty much. I think that kind of 421 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: goes hand in hand for the most part. Would you 422 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: rather have Wan Soto? I think the answer is yes, 423 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: Wan Soto? Right, you rather have. 424 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: Where are we at there? My God? 425 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: Having a brain for here, the guy I wanted to 426 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: talk about here. Would you rather have Shoeotani his teammate? 427 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: Yes? Probably right, yes, of course pitcher and hitter. Would 428 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: you rather have? Uh? 429 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: Now, let's go to the list of the guys that 430 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: are questions in that sense, in these young players, Lad 431 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 2: Guerrero Junior. Would rather have Vlad Guro Junior than Trout 432 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: the next two years? 433 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, Aaron Judge, Oh yes, right, that's a tough one, 434 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 4: I think so. 435 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm thinking in Dynasty. 436 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: My brain, the old diverse, would you rather have the 437 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 2: next two years than Mike Trout? 438 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: That's a big yes for me. Was a Ramrrors would 439 00:17:58,480 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: you rather have him? 440 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 441 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so we're up. 442 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 2: Till like five six, So now we're getting closer, so 443 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 2: he's closer to being a tent now where it's like, okay, 444 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 2: Fernando Tatist Junior, who we haven't seen all year. 445 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Kunia Tatis Mark Cunia. 446 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: Okay, So basically we're pushing almost a ten here without 447 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 2: any pitchers or anything like that. 448 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: I think this is a true statement. 449 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: I mean, the back issues, the strikeouts, everything that's going 450 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: on here with Trout. This is the normal peak of 451 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: a player twenty eight to thirty, but because of the 452 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 2: style played Mike Trout had. My whole point was I 453 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 2: Trout's at a point where I don't want to say 454 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: he's on the down side, but he's certainly not the 455 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 2: same player he was in his early twenties. The style 456 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: of play, how hardy played in the field, how hardy 457 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: played on the bass pass. You know, Mike Trout is 458 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 2: a twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven year old player. 459 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: Mike Trout in his thirties is a very different player. 460 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 2: And I think this is a real question we have 461 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 2: to ask ourselves. And this was the biggest one, and 462 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 2: Bizirizigizza just beat us to it. Julio Rodriguez or Mike 463 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: Trout the next two years. 464 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 3: I want Julio in Dynasty, Julio I have above. 465 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: In real life. I want Julio. I think he's a 466 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: better defender at this point in his career. 467 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 2: Too. 468 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: Let's be honest. 469 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I do think we're we're doing the bit though, 470 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 4: we're doing this Mic Trout bit that has been done 471 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 4: for the last four years, where everyone's like, you know, is. 472 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: Microut really valuable? Like we really still love him, he's. 473 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: The vlleable Like is he a top ten player anymore? 474 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 475 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 2: No, But I think ourselves in Dynasty, if he's not 476 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: a top ten player, and I can get one of 477 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 2: these guys that we're talking about in a Mike Trout 478 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: deal that take it. 479 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're in a bigger space of that. Now. 480 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 4: He's thirty one years old. Guys have played one hundred 481 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 4: and fifty games since twenty sixteen. He's a couple of 482 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 4: years removed from an incredible season. But we're just not 483 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 4: seeing I mean, if you space everything out, if you 484 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 4: space out and you pace this, he's still putting up 485 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 4: incredible numbers. He just does not steal bases at any 486 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: clip anymore. He hasn't stolen double digits since twenty nineteen, 487 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 4: and he doesn't look like he's remotely close on pace 488 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 4: to it. 489 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 3: So he's a different player. 490 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 4: He's still, let's not get it twisted though, he's still 491 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 4: like an elite three category player that pushes a fourth 492 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 4: with batting average. He's just a nothing burger on stolen bases, 493 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 4: which makes like Trout versus Jordan Alvarez another fascinating one, 494 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 4: and that wouldn't have been remotely close to me even 495 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 4: coming into this year. 496 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: I'd rather have Alvarez, but now. 497 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 4: I agree like Alvarez is also a four category player 498 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 4: who's surprisingly staying healthy. Batting average looks even better and 499 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 4: I would be comfortable taking Alvarez over him at this point, 500 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 4: which changed. But I'm just saying, like, I think the 501 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 4: tier in the clump of what we're talking about is 502 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 4: a much bigger pool where it wasn't coming into this year. 503 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: I think it was like you had the Akunya. 504 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 4: Tatis Soto, Tawny Vlad maybe throw Ramirez Trout and there's 505 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 4: like eight guys. This has now turned into this like 506 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 4: sixteen pool of guys that you're like, wow, these are 507 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 4: all great, Like you could start. 508 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: Arguing Bobby witt On, like there's some other guys on 509 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: that fringe there that you could ask the question as well. 510 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: And there's some other guys too. 511 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: There established guys in there, you know, late twenties, early 512 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: thirty guys like gold Schmitt and Pee Alonso. Who would 513 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: you rab have next two years, pet Alonso or Mike Trout. 514 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: I'll go Mike Trout. 515 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: Pete Alonso is leading the league in RBI, no I know, 516 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: and he's. 517 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 3: It's super easy for us to be. 518 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 4: Like, we're gonna take everybody over Mike Trout when their 519 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 4: team is in the biggest struggle bus ever, in the 520 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 4: biggest bus ever, When is he I mean, that's a 521 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 4: great that's a great point. 522 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: Like at a certain point, when do we just call 523 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 2: the angels what they are and how do we see 524 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 2: it getting better in the next two years, Because I 525 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 2: don't see it. 526 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 4: Whoda rather Aving Dynasty, Mike Trout or Bryce Harper. There 527 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 4: there's a year difference. There's only by the way, okay. 528 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: Harper, But I've always been a Harper guy, very very 529 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: pro Harper compared to the rest of the field. All right, 530 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: let's talk about the MLB draft last night. It did happen, 531 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 2: and the first overall pick was son of former Major 532 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 2: leaguer Matt Holliday and Little Debbie snack cake sponsor Jackson Holiday, 533 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: obviously the spokesperson for a Little Debbie. 534 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: There, Jackson Holiday. 535 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 3: I've never seen someone look younger. 536 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 4: I've never felt older than that moment, because we all, 537 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 4: like you struggle with that whole age thing and stuff 538 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 4: like that. 539 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: My god, if that. 540 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: Was Little Debbie's and he knows it, I would be 541 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: all over Jackson Holiday. I was like, look, we want 542 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: to make you the new face of the snackcakes, like 543 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 2: the zebra cakes, the oatmeal pies. 544 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: But you're as your dad for permission. 545 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 2: Though you're asking either dad to sign this permission slip, 546 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: have your mom drive you over here. 547 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: He looks. It's unbelievable. But here's the question. 548 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: Drew Jones went second, which I thought he was the 549 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: best player in the draft. He went to the Diamondbacks. 550 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure Bogman is just ecstatic about that. I assume 551 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 2: you are as well. 552 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 4: Here's about Bogman, who cares about what I was ecstatic 553 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 4: about it. 554 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: That was all that I wanted. 555 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: That's all that you wanted was your and you got it. 556 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: So why did why you Joe not. 557 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 3: The one fan of the world because of money? Because 558 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 3: well as you were just. 559 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: A pure Diamondbacks fan or if you had other allegiances, 560 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: I always forgot that. 561 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 3: Base Well, I love baseball. I love baseball in general. 562 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: You know, like there's some people that have like an 563 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: American League team in the National League team, where like 564 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: they moved so they weren't always like a Diamondback fan, 565 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 2: like I never remembered if. 566 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: You were at just straight up d Backs. 567 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 4: I am a straight up said, I'm a straight up 568 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: Arizona Diamback guy. 569 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 3: That incredible draft. 570 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 4: You know, I actually said money and I incorrectly said 571 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 4: that because what has come out is that he's gonna 572 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 4: get Holiday's gonna get over eight million dollars, So there 573 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 4: might be like a five hundred, eight hundred thousand dollars deal, 574 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 4: but they've felt the talent was there full five tools 575 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 4: continuously got better, which okay, maybe that's the case, but 576 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 4: I think Drew Jones was the ultimate talent. 577 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: The guy's gonna fill out. 578 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 4: You're easily gonna be able to put on twenty five 579 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: plus of muscle onto his frame. He has not grown 580 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 4: out like some of these guys. Tamar Johnson is a 581 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 4: kid that's like already pre filled out. Both of these 582 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: guys are five tool players, just and IL say Andrew Jones. 583 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 4: But Drew Jones is the player that I would be, 584 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 4: you know, putting my hopes onto. I think he's got 585 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 4: massive power that I'm not sure Holiday has one hundred percent. 586 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 4: But both their five tool guys, and I mean nothing though, 587 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 4: led to the shock of the third round, the third 588 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 4: overall pick, which I well, I had got rumors on Joe, right, let's. 589 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: Talk about that. 590 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 4: So I did a live stream for the draft and 591 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 4: I mentioned this about five minutes before it happened with 592 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 4: Kumar Rocker. 593 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: Well, what's so funny? 594 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the son of you know, Matt Holliday, 595 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: the son of Andrew Jones and the son of John Rocker. 596 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: All gain. 597 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 3: I saw that tweet. I saw that. 598 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: I love that. It's so funny. 599 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 2: But Kamar Rocker, who the Mets elected and then didn't pay, 600 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: and then he went back to independent league and now 601 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: he is reunited with his former teammate from Vanderbilt, Jack Lighter, 602 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: in the Texas Rangers organization. So they went all in here. 603 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: So was this a good pick a bad pick? He 604 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,239 Speaker 2: was ranked thirty eighth as a prospect, so why did 605 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: this happen? 606 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 3: Well, oh that the thirty eight stuff, It's simply about. 607 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: People were split. 608 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 4: Half didn't like, we're worried about the injury stuff, that 609 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 4: he wasn't revealing everything. The other half absolutely loved him. 610 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 4: So you were a lover hate on Kumar Rocker. I 611 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 4: think he's the best pitcher in this draft. Best slider, 612 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 4: absolutely dominant slider, can go deep into games. As a 613 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 4: track record, he came back in an independent ball, had 614 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 4: multiple starts where he's hitting high nineties. 615 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: Slider looks amazing. This is a dude. 616 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 4: This is an absolute dude. There was so much fake 617 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 4: stuff going out there it could be a reliever. And 618 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 4: there's this and that this isn't as surprising as should 619 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 4: we be giving it to be. And they're getting a 620 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 4: two million dollars savings on Kumar Rocker. They're signing him 621 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 4: around five where slot is seven, and they're gonna use 622 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 4: that reportedly today on the top high school pitcher brock Porter, 623 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 4: who has slipped and fell and should be getting a 624 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 4: whole bunch of money. It's a great pick. It's a 625 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 4: really great pick. Kumar Rocker coming into this. I'm happy 626 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 4: to say this because I've seen some others turn page 627 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: coming in. I already had Kamar Rocker is my number 628 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 4: one pitcher for first year player drafts, but before any 629 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 4: of this business happened of him going three, and a 630 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: lot of people have kind of turned tune and they're like, hey, 631 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 4: now Kamar Rockers number one. 632 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 3: That's where I was because I thought this is I'm 633 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: gonna be still. 634 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,959 Speaker 2: Pissed off as a Mets fan, Like I was just 635 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: so mad, Like, I mean, that's just such a frust 636 00:25:59,119 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 2: rate thing. 637 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: He's watching me show. 638 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 3: He's a team leader, he's really really I watched. 639 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: The pitch of Vanderbilt. 640 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: I saw the highlights of him and Lighter, and I 641 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 2: watched a ton of it last year, and it was 642 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 2: just like, you know, I was like, well, if you're 643 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: gonna make this pick, you know, why do you do 644 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 2: the due diligence before? And then you know he's just 645 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: gonna go back in the draft. Somebod's gonna draft him 646 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: high again, and he did. Is exactly what happened. 647 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 4: I just don't think they were expecting the medicals. I 648 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 4: agree with you here the same thing the Braves did 649 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 4: it with Carter Young a couple of years ago. It's like, 650 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 4: why did you not have this completely figured out? Like 651 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 4: I don't understand why this isn't figured out. 652 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,239 Speaker 2: I think it's literally their job, Like this is what 653 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: you do. Yeah, you are the scouts that worry about 654 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: the MLB draft. Let's take you through the top ten 655 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: guys as well, because I know you know that list 656 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 2: right now. Who stands out to you in the top 657 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: ten and then the first round? Give me, like the 658 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: two or three guys that you were really high on 659 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 2: or you liked the landing spot. 660 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 4: For them, Well, I mean number two on my first 661 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 4: year player list. I've got a top five hundred and 662 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 4: doing all this in this league dot com. If people 663 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 4: want to sign up and check out the list, we'll 664 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 4: be updated soon. But Tamar Johnson with the Pirates is 665 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 4: such a freaking deal. 666 00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: I absolutely love him. 667 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 4: Probably the best bat in this entire draft, which hey, 668 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 4: for fantasy, we love that doesn't steal a whole bunch. 669 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 4: That was my probably ultimate favorite of the entire draft. 670 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 4: I kind of like brooks Lee who went to Minnesota 671 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 4: at a incredibly high hit tool can kind of have 672 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 4: some all fields power pushed around. 673 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 3: Kevin Parrada to the Mets. 674 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 4: Was I love I dude, I got Prada at like 675 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 4: six and he's a catcher. 676 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasna I had him at six too, and 677 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 2: he went eleven to the Mets. 678 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he steals Basis Toll eleven bases at Georgia 679 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 4: Tech this past year makes incredible, incredible contact for fantasy. 680 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: The couple guys to watch. 681 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 4: Chase de Lauder, who went to the Guardians at eighteen, 682 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 4: was a really really great pick at one time thought 683 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 4: as maybe the top guy. And then this little barrage 684 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 4: right here of Justin Crawford and Cam Collier. Collier fell slipped, 685 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 4: but huge pickups. Collier is probably the highest player on 686 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 4: my personal rank who went the lowest in the draft. 687 00:27:55,280 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 4: Lou Collier's son, huge power, really athletic third baseman, got 688 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 4: he's got that. 689 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: Jordan Walker, Yeah, he was right eight talent well and 690 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: he went eighteenth. That's a big dip. 691 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, So those are a couple of them. It was 692 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 4: a great draft. We went into the second round. There's 693 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 4: some huge talent. Maybe my favorite, most unheralded player. He 694 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 4: went thirteenth to the Angels. 695 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: Zach Nedo. 696 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 4: Kind of a big Royce Lewis front leg kick, but 697 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 4: he's a five tool guy almost. He almost was a 698 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 4: twenty twenty player, really really talented, and it's a little 699 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 4: bit raw and he played at a smaller school, so 700 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 4: I have to see where that goes. But that's going 701 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 4: to be one of those guys that's going to jump up. 702 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 4: Is it's not going to register for people on first 703 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 4: year player boards, but netto. So it was a great 704 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 4: first round, great talent, and more to come. 705 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the home run derby. Obviously tonight, 706 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: the odds have changed since last week left you on Friday, 707 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: so they have moved significantly at that to pet A 708 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: Lonzo plus one eighty five, Kylee Swarber two seventy, Won 709 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: Soto plus six fifty. 710 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: Then we had Kney at six fifty. Julio is at 711 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: plus eight fifty. 712 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: So those twelve or ten to one on Julio and 713 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: then twelve to one on Corey Seeger Well, Corey Siegers 714 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: now plus nine to fifty. So here's what you have 715 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: to do if you want to get involved in the 716 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: home run derby contest. Here once again just going through this. 717 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: To play, you have to be a premium member Fantasy 718 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: Pros obviously because you're in the home run chat over 719 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: on Discord. The example is exclamation point home run, like 720 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: you always make your call slash call. Then you put 721 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: the first name of the guy you think is going 722 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: to finish, first the comma the second player, and then 723 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: of course the number of home runs. So just for 724 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: example three hundred and ninety, I see that whenever the 725 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: graphic was made here, so good job making this graphic. 726 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: I know Wonky's been working on this. I want to 727 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: say it was mister Buster made it made the fun 728 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: amazing graphic. We're both wearing our crowns. You're wearing your 729 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 2: tr I'm. 730 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 3: Wearing my Where is it? Where is this? 731 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if they posted it in the Discord 732 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: home run channel yet or not, but I got it 733 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: sent to me, so I guess it's going to be 734 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,479 Speaker 2: at least posted today, Wonky, I don't know is it 735 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 2: posted in the Discord channel. 736 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: But so you need the person. 737 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 2: Going first, comma second place finisher, and then the number 738 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: home runs. So if you get all things right here 739 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: and you do very well, you get three points. So 740 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 2: the person who correctly names the first place person, the 741 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 2: second place hitter, and the closest to the total number 742 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: gets three points. Anyone who picks the winner and the 743 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: second place person in that correct order gets two points. 744 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 2: Anyone who picks the winner gets one point. So I 745 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: have made my wager also on Juan Soto. I think 746 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 2: he's the best bang for my buck there at the 747 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: plus six fifty. I put that down this morning. So 748 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 2: let's go Juan Soto. Last call here for your pick. 749 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Sodo one and Pete Alonso two. I 750 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be the old dogs going for it. 751 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: That's my call. 752 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: How about you, Welsh? 753 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 4: Where are you going, Oh, man, I just see Mayor 754 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 4: just almost put exactly where I'm gonna go. I'm gonna 755 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 4: go Alonzo one, Schwarber two, and I'm gonna put the 756 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 4: number at I'm gonna I'm gonna do like a one 757 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 4: dollar thing on him. I'm gonna go to ninety five. 758 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go two over him. So I'm gonna go 759 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 4: Alonzo Schwarber two ninety five. That's gonna be my fife. 760 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 4: Do I need making it here? Is that good enough 761 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 4: for me? 762 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 3: Do I need to go on this? 763 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: I think? 764 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: I think I think for the good of the contest, 765 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: you should make it in the home run chat. 766 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: I think everybody should do that. 767 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 2: I think everybody should just go one to run higher 768 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: than whatever whatever Mike Maher does. I think that's definitely 769 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: the way it goes. Because Mike Mayer's moving this week two. 770 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: Speaking of moving, somebody else moving really close. Here's fun fact. 771 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: We'll close on this justin Verlander of the Astros is 772 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: the first picture of Major League Baseball history. I know 773 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 2: Welsh loves the historical moments. I do enter the All 774 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: Star break with twelve or more wins an eight hundred 775 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 2: winning percentage, an ERA under two, an opponent's batting average 776 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: under two hundred, a whip under point nine zero, and 777 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: a five to one k walk ratio. 778 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: How about them apples. 779 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 2: And by the way, the Astros have like the easiest 780 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 2: schedule on the planet coming out of the break into 781 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: the second half. So I am still guns a blazing 782 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: for Justin Verlander. 783 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: Cy Young? 784 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 3: What are the numbers? 785 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,239 Speaker 1: M where the numbers? Right? 786 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 3: Have you looked like the Cy Young alcion? 787 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: They're still right neck and neck. 788 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: But I think that everybody's just not thinking enough about 789 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: what sect and half McClanahan might look like. 790 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: I'll give you the exact number right here. 791 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 3: I'm looking on too on bettingpros dot com. 792 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: By the way, Otani's minus one oh five for MVP that. 793 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 4: You can get two sixty on Verlander Standuel right now 794 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 4: with the ability to buy down Shaye McClanahan at two 795 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 4: hundred and Garrett Cole is ten to one. 796 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: He's mad Joeyotani plus eight fifty, which is fascinating too, 797 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: just saying yeah, yeah, that's also if you're gonna make 798 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 2: those wagers, make sure you go to bet MGM. 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Make your 802 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: wagers tonight over at betmgm on the Home Run Derby, 803 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 2: check out those odds or if you want to put 804 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: in some player futures as well, get that bad boy 805 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: done because, uh, it's a fun night. 806 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: You put a little, even if ten bucks on somebody 807 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: for the Home Run Derby, it's fun. 808 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: It's fun, a little bit of juice when you're watching, 809 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 2: and you can get really upset in the first round 810 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: or really excited. Possibly if you win the whole thing 811 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 2: and turn you know, ten bucks into fifty, that's that's 812 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 2: a nice day. 813 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: That's fun. 814 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have some BAGM and I actually on our 815 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 4: our Ends League twitch stream, we are gonna run the 816 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 4: entire Home Run Derby. We're gonna go through each bracket. 817 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 4: We're gonna play it out on MLB the show during 818 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 4: a Home Run context night at one pm Eastern here, 819 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 4: and I'm hoping to draft Alonzo. 820 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 3: We're gonna do each bracket. I want the Alonzo one 821 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 3: to win, so we'll do whatever you can to have 822 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 3: fun with it. 823 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 4: Bet it, play it I'm actually going to make sure 824 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 4: I'm locked in for the first time in forever because 825 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 4: of Julio, which has got me pretty jacked up. Do 826 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 4: you think anybody will put up a big old donut, 827 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 4: you know, like, no one like zero to three? 828 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: No, No, I think I think everybody's still no donuts here, 829 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: That's what I think. 830 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: All right, we'll come back tomorrow and recap it all 831 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: again eleven am Eastern all week here and leading off. 832 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: That'll do it for us, But the story of the 833 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: game goes on for the Welsh. I'm Joey P. We'll 834 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: see you next time. Kids. 835 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 2: The