Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock Bet. We're
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Speaker 1: pay attention. I am Chad Millman, I am joined as
Speaker 1: always buy, my co host, my bff, my companion, my
Speaker 1: campadre professional better Simon hunt Ella.
Speaker 2: Simon, Chad, how are we doing, boy?
Speaker 1: I mean it was crazy in the first first games. Today,
Speaker 1: I mean we're gonna We're gonna dig in the second half.
Speaker 1: At one point in the early part of the second quarter,
Speaker 1: the combined scores of the games the three games was
Speaker 1: seventy eight to three. So I just spent ninety minutes
Speaker 1: waiting for the game for their show to start. Listen, Simon,
Speaker 1: we loved the Jets all week. We didn't put them
Speaker 1: in the final five. We loved the Texans all week,
Speaker 1: did not put them in the final five. Unfortunately, there
Speaker 1: were others that we did love and we never waivered
Speaker 1: on our record for the day. Right now, I was
Speaker 1: two and two. We won with the Ravens minus three
Speaker 1: and a half. We won with the Dolphins. Kudos Simon
Speaker 1: for forcing that one in at plus nine and a half.
Speaker 1: You were hinting at it all week lost with the
Speaker 1: Bucks minus two and a half. We got warned we
Speaker 1: couldn't walk away, and we lost with the Cardinals plus
Speaker 1: six and a half. That was a dead bet. Even
Speaker 1: I knew that was a dead bet. The eternal optimist
Speaker 1: knew that was a dead bet. We have the Eagles
Speaker 1: plus two and a half against the Packers on Monday
Speaker 1: Night Football, Last Ones in where the Eagles last ones
Speaker 1: out with the Niners plus three and a half. All right,
Speaker 1: we're going to get to our early leans, our review
Speaker 1: of how we did in all our picks. Your live
Speaker 1: comments from the chat send them in. Let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Minnesota out ball Baltimore. Baltimore was three and a half. Listen, dude,
Speaker 1: that first series. We both know enough to know, like,
Speaker 1: you don't win a bet or lose a bet on
Speaker 1: the first series. We saw that throughout the day. JJ
Speaker 1: McCarthy was three for four for seventy six yards on
Speaker 1: the first series, seventeen of thirty eight for one hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy two yards the rest of the game. The
Speaker 1: reason we decided we liked the Ravens was because we
Speaker 1: didn't like JJ McCarthy. I feel like that generally came
Speaker 1: true today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we knew this was probably not the best spot
Speaker 2: for jj Rick coming off a big win in a
Speaker 2: game that we both agree it was felt very flukey,
Speaker 2: but like he had a bunch of things go his
Speaker 2: way in that matchup. He actually didn't play that great
Speaker 2: and the flip side couldn't get around good. The Vikings
Speaker 2: defense played, And I said, I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: something that can happen again back to back weeks. Like
Speaker 2: I just I thought Detroy missed a bunch of opportunities
Speaker 2: in this week. The Ravens just going to miss it, right,
Speaker 2: even if they were sloppy, Like you said, that was
Speaker 2: the only way that could be come out slow, a
Speaker 2: little sloppy off the bye week. You know this Ravens team,
Speaker 2: And they did.
Speaker 1: By the way they did like that opening drive, JJ
Speaker 1: looked great and the Ravens really couldn't tackle, So it's
Speaker 1: not like they came out perfect. But as the game
Speaker 1: went on, they continue to get better and better, and
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson got better and better and Derek Henry got
Speaker 1: better and better, and the Vikings could never find their ground.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just interest though, like these teams up by
Speaker 2: a Thursday. The many Bie weeks. It's just how are
Speaker 2: they gonna come out perform early on the game because
Speaker 2: it is an extended dress, right, a lot of these
Speaker 2: guys do go away for a couple of days and
Speaker 2: take a little break. They just didn't look like they
Speaker 2: were in it in that first half. Defense luckily was
Speaker 2: they played really well. Yeah, but then that second half
Speaker 2: Lamar started making this key throw, started connecting in the
Speaker 2: red zone and it was it was over right. They
Speaker 2: steamrolled them. So we were a little nervous about it
Speaker 2: and not gonna lie. We just couldn't understand why these
Speaker 2: books Sunday morning were still at minus three and a half.
Speaker 2: I could not believe it, and we both bet it
Speaker 2: and joked about it and put it in. We're like, man,
Speaker 2: hope this doesn't bite us. It just feels way too easy.
Speaker 2: But you saw lay money came in. This number jumped
Speaker 2: to five. Had a lot of books before kickoff. So
Speaker 2: that was unlike the Tampa Bay game, which that number
Speaker 2: did not move an inch.
Speaker 1: It got close. It got to like two and a
Speaker 1: half minus one twenty. We'll talk about that in a second.
Speaker 1: To me, McCarthy, it's going to be interesting how we
Speaker 1: manage and handicap McCarthy because in that second half he
Speaker 1: threw the pick on the opening drive. It was basically
Speaker 1: a punt, but it was a third down and he
Speaker 1: just let the ball go and it ended up in
Speaker 1: the hands. I forgot who it was deep in the
Speaker 1: Ravens secondary that led to m free wasn't hum Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was Humphrey that led to a field goal to
Speaker 1: put them head twelve to ten. And then look right
Speaker 1: after that, the Vikings fumble a kickoff. It's nineteen ten
Speaker 1: and the Ravens basically took control from there. Derrek Henry
Speaker 1: played great. The one thing that I wonder if we
Speaker 1: have to think about Andrew van Ginkel. The last two
Speaker 1: games has been really good for the Vikings, and it
Speaker 1: has been a difference in the first half. He made
Speaker 1: some really great plays last week get the lot against
Speaker 1: the Lions. He was making a lot of really good plays.
Speaker 1: We don't like the Vikings rush defense, and they were
Speaker 1: not very good today. But Van Ginkel can make one
Speaker 1: or two plays over the course of a game where
Speaker 1: that challenges and stresses the opponent. The Vikings cannot figure
Speaker 1: out how to capitalize on those is the problem. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you recognize that when you were watching
Speaker 1: this game, maybe a little bit.
Speaker 2: I just honestly thought if the Ravens played better in
Speaker 2: the red zone, we would have won and covered this
Speaker 2: by twenty points. They just moved the ball up and
Speaker 2: down the field, and like you said, JJ was making
Speaker 2: stupid mistakes. Lamar. Not that I thought he wasn't trying,
Speaker 2: but felt like he had opportunities to run the ball.
Speaker 2: He said, I'm not wasting my body in this game.
Speaker 2: Am I taking hits? I'll just throw it away or
Speaker 2: pick take that pass down field instead of taking those
Speaker 2: opening lanes. So it was pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Vikings had eight false starts in this game.
Speaker 1: Eight false starts. So at home, at home, Yeah, at
Speaker 1: home New England at Tampa Bay. All right, let's talk
Speaker 1: about this one. It never moved. It got up to
Speaker 1: minus one twenty. I thought it would get to three.
Speaker 1: Like we were talking about it all week. We were
Speaker 1: nervous all week about this number. We got warnings from
Speaker 1: the wise guys. We never backed off, and honestly, even
Speaker 1: to the first half, it looked it looked like it
Speaker 1: was even, it looked like it was going to be
Speaker 1: a field goal game. Baker was perfect in that first draft.
Speaker 1: He was accurate. They ran easily a mecha you know,
Speaker 1: made a nice catch, just scored a touchdown. I was
Speaker 1: feeling pretty good after that first drive and the way
Speaker 1: they were playing in the first half overall, except for
Speaker 1: the very last play the first half. Then it became
Speaker 1: a verbel coaching win to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I feel like I came down to one
Speaker 2: play and Vrabel almost outsmarted himself. I don't know if
Speaker 2: people saw it, if you were watching this New one
Speaker 2: Tampa Big game. It basically they had a first down
Speaker 2: at the one, and Drake May fell on the ball
Speaker 2: at the one to run the clock forty seconds before
Speaker 2: they took their second snap, so basically used their first
Speaker 2: down as a nothing like took that risk, and it
Speaker 2: came down to a fourth down play in the back
Speaker 2: of the end zone, insane throw in saint catch by
Speaker 2: dig So. Yeah, this this whole Drake May thing, I
Speaker 2: said to you, he's giving me major major Carson Wentz
Speaker 2: vibes from twenty seventeen, in the year Eagles won the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. He is reckless with his body. He is
Speaker 2: not consistent as a thrower, but in big moments with
Speaker 2: pressure in his face, he's deadly accurate downfield like anything
Speaker 2: over ten yards whatever it is, he is beend money
Speaker 2: for them and continuing in this game, he had a
Speaker 2: couple of huge throw that saved us. But this really
Speaker 2: is a Josh McDaniel's game, Like what they did with Henderson,
Speaker 2: the rookie that you know it hasn't been seen the
Speaker 2: fiel because he can't pass block and they're forced into
Speaker 2: it with an interesty to Stievertson. They were in a
Speaker 2: spot where they the lead, so they knew that, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're gonna run it anyway with the kid needed two
Speaker 2: insane runs that totally flipped the game. Ye I mean
Speaker 2: just breakaway insane speed so bad. Bet should have trusted
Speaker 2: our gut on it when it wasn't moving. We should
Speaker 2: have known better, like we said, had a ton of
Speaker 2: warnings and yeah it's it's a tough loss.
Speaker 1: Well look that What might be the most fun, interesting,
Speaker 1: exciting play of the year is Traveon Henderson, who's been
Speaker 1: getting bashed all season because he's so talented, but they
Speaker 1: can't put him in for all the reasons you just
Speaker 1: talked about. Breaks away for what a fifty nine yard
Speaker 1: run that can seal the game. And he's so far
Speaker 1: ahead of everybody on the Bucks defense as he's running
Speaker 1: for the touchdown that he has time to start veering
Speaker 1: to the middle of the field from the sideline and
Speaker 1: look over at the Patriots bench to ask if he
Speaker 1: should score the touchdown with less than two minutes left
Speaker 1: and put them up by twelve I think, or if
Speaker 1: he should slide and end the game, and all the
Speaker 1: coaches waved him in and told him to go score
Speaker 1: the touchdown. I love that it was heads up. I
Speaker 1: love that he's paying attention to the coaches. I love
Speaker 1: that he got to score the touchdown. I love that
Speaker 1: he was so far ahead at everybody else that he
Speaker 1: had time to actually do this. That was remarkable. That
Speaker 1: just shows how fast the kid is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just if he gets going, my god, maybe
Speaker 2: we need to start taking this Pager team a little
Speaker 2: more serious, because, like we keep saying, between the coach
Speaker 2: and the quarterback, it's hard to find a better combo
Speaker 2: right on the AFC, which is insane to say, but
Speaker 2: this Drake may Vrabel combo right now is like we
Speaker 2: always talk about, there's bad spots it's supposed to be
Speaker 2: a bad spot in the weather, in the element, they
Speaker 2: played like the more veteran team and that was the
Speaker 2: most shocking part of that game.
Speaker 1: That was a sixty nine yard run by the way,
Speaker 1: and this was nice. You know, I've said this a
Speaker 1: few times before the year began. We set the line
Speaker 1: on Vrabel coaching wins to two and a half. I
Speaker 1: feel like he's at least at four, if not five,
Speaker 1: And today was another one of those, just with that
Speaker 1: sort of thoughtful strategic clock management and then going for
Speaker 1: it at the end of the first half. That's fourteen
Speaker 1: points they manufactured because they got the touchdown instead of
Speaker 1: going for the field goal at the end of the
Speaker 1: first half. And then they open the second half and
Speaker 1: the second play is the Travon Henderson run. So now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it goes from fourteen to ten
Speaker 1: to twenty one to ten and that's the ball game
Speaker 1: for them. They never look back again, and it's all
Speaker 1: because of the wave. Rabel managed the game. Just brilliant,
Speaker 1: brilliant guy.
Speaker 2: Love them, Yeah, I will say this. Newton Patriots next
Speaker 2: three games Jets, Cincy Giants, then their bye week. So
Speaker 2: if they can get to eleven and two because then
Speaker 2: after their bye week it is brutal. They got Buffalo
Speaker 2: Ravens Jets and then they finish off with Miami. So yeah,
Speaker 2: this is pretty surreal. There is a path for them
Speaker 2: to the one seed. Now, like after you win this
Speaker 2: type of game, oh yeah, you drop only one or
Speaker 2: two more games the rest of the year. There's a
Speaker 2: real chance New England's got that one seed and we
Speaker 2: are going to get some amazing value trying to fade
Speaker 2: them in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Well, look, they're two and a half games up on
Speaker 1: the Bills, because we're going to talk about the Bills next.
Speaker 1: But they've beaten the Bills and now they're up to
Speaker 1: games in the win column. They're a much better team
Speaker 1: right now than the Denver Broncos right who are have
Speaker 1: a similar record. They're a much better team right now
Speaker 1: than the Kansas City Chiefs, who are multiple games back
Speaker 1: of the Patriots right now. So this is getting and
Speaker 1: it'd be an interesting conversation about the Colts and the
Speaker 1: Patriots right now, because I do not think the Colts
Speaker 1: were that impressive today and beating up the Falcons. We
Speaker 1: can talk about that a little bit later, but first
Speaker 1: let's talk about Buffalo at Miami. Buffalo was a nine
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite. You were insistent all week,
Speaker 1: flowers for Simon, Flowers for Simon. It's not flowers for Charlie,
Speaker 1: not from always sunny, flowers for Simon. As you were
Speaker 1: insistent that we put the Dolphins in it was the
Speaker 1: right spot. The one thing you said again and again,
Speaker 1: Devon h Han running the ball. The guy had one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy four yards rushing today, Like this was
Speaker 1: not a two A game. This was a divan ahang game.
Speaker 2: That was part of it. The big part two is
Speaker 2: the Tua being comfortable whatever it is. When he is
Speaker 2: comfortable in these homesteads, that stat's crazy. Now now he's
Speaker 2: up to four to oh and there's the exact spot
Speaker 2: as a dog straight up and against the spread, which
Speaker 2: is just crazy because I think they showed the last
Speaker 2: time he beat Josh Allen was in like twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: so really unique spot for them. And yeah, it's the
Speaker 2: dream bet. Everything went our way in this game and
Speaker 2: everything I've been saying that it looked like a fool
Speaker 2: last week because Josh Allen played so well against the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: I just there's just something off about him this season,
Speaker 2: and I saw it in this game. Again. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: just isn't what he was last year in the MVP
Speaker 2: cow level, which again that's impossible love up to, but
Speaker 2: that's the level he needs the playoff for this team
Speaker 2: to win. They just have so many deficiency not only
Speaker 2: at wide receiver but the defensive side like this. We
Speaker 2: talked about this run game for h H and everything like that.
Speaker 2: It matched up great for them, but you know, I
Speaker 2: think it was sixteen to nothing heading into the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: The Bills defense didn't play that bad. It just the fumbles,
Speaker 2: that turnovers. Everything just went so bad with this Bills team.
Speaker 2: So yeah, dream scenario, you know, get the big win,
Speaker 2: big upset, looks good for survivor pols. Unfortunately I got
Speaker 2: knocked out on Carolina so it did even matter. But
Speaker 2: this was a big play. Not many people gave Miami
Speaker 2: a chance here and I got while you hated it,
Speaker 2: you felt gross and I had to bully into it.
Speaker 2: But it's like it was such a spot for this
Speaker 2: Dolphins team and you saw it before kickoff. We did
Speaker 2: the show. I think at nine am it was plus nine.
Speaker 2: It was plus seven and a half by kickoff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and this is with all the teasers parlays, all the
Speaker 2: suckers are going in late hammering that Bill's side, and
Speaker 2: it's never good you get that much reverse line action,
Speaker 2: especially in a big blog dog like that. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: was a good one. But yeah, like that's we joke
Speaker 2: all the time. That's the dream for betting a dog.
Speaker 2: You start the game a thirteen zero lead, and everything
Speaker 2: kept going wrong from the Bills from that point forward.
Speaker 2: So yeah, needed that win.
Speaker 1: Uh, Tua was ten to fourteen for one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty one. I think in the first half the Bills
Speaker 1: had ninety total yards. In the second half, how many
Speaker 1: times do you think Tua threw the ball three? He
Speaker 1: threw it seven times. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2: In the entire I mean, they didn't need it.
Speaker 1: They didn't need it, right, And then the Bills finally
Speaker 1: driving the middle of third and Josh Allen throws that
Speaker 1: pick in the end zone that made Matt Mitchell want
Speaker 1: to drink a can of paint while he was sitting
Speaker 1: in his basement painting the basement after all this water damage,
Speaker 1: and like it was just he he had made so
Speaker 1: many plays to get them in a position to score
Speaker 1: on that drive, and then through this weird pick. They
Speaker 1: had a weird fourth and one where they were set
Speaker 1: up in that sort of snowplow formation where they go
Speaker 1: for it, and then instead he rolled out and threw
Speaker 1: a pass an alley oop into the middle of the
Speaker 1: field that fell to the ground. He fumbled the ball
Speaker 1: with seven minutes left, down ten while fighting for extra
Speaker 1: yards after getting seven or eight on a third and one.
Speaker 2: I mean, everything went wrong.
Speaker 1: Everything went wrong. It was just nothing. Nothing went right.
Speaker 1: They could not get close. In my head though, going
Speaker 1: into the fourth quarter, I'm still like the Bills could
Speaker 1: still score three touchdowns and cover this number. I was like,
Speaker 1: I had so little faith in the Dolphins that I
Speaker 1: just was doing the Gambler's math. You know what I
Speaker 1: didn't do Gambler's math for Arizona plus six and a
Speaker 1: half against Seattle because, oh my lord, down twenty one
Speaker 1: in the first quarter from a opening drive touchdown, Brissett
Speaker 1: sack and fumble and eighteen yeard drive that leads to
Speaker 1: a punt that leads to another long Seattle drive, and
Speaker 1: then the first minute of the second quarter, the same
Speaker 1: guy who forced the first fumble and scoop and score
Speaker 1: on Brissett. Tyrese night for the Seahawks and the same
Speaker 1: guy who scored in that first fumble to Marcus Lawrence.
Speaker 1: They bite it up, did it again. So it was
Speaker 1: twenty eight nothing fifteen minutes into this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we obviously picked a really bad spot to back Brissette.
Speaker 2: They flashed the record as dominic Seattle's defense has been
Speaker 2: this year. They had zero touchdown scored, like you said,
Speaker 2: they had two in the first quarter. Just terrible, terrible.
Speaker 2: Bet totally walked into it. I was hoping to avoid
Speaker 2: this game or the forig Niners game when the forty
Speaker 2: nine ers game. Couldn't avoid this one. We'd loved it
Speaker 2: all week, I'd bet it all week, and uh yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's the worst, right when you back these dogs
Speaker 2: and they're down twenty one to nothing in the first quarter,
Speaker 2: even when a lot of yourself there's just no scenario
Speaker 2: like you need a total melt that from their team,
Speaker 2: and even the Seahawks try to give it back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did a few times, a lot of turnovers.
Speaker 2: And like, yeah, they just kept couldn't They kept going
Speaker 2: for it on fourth down and the red zone and
Speaker 2: just failing on a couple different times where they could
Speaker 2: have got back into we had a chance at the
Speaker 2: back door and just slam shut on us. So bad bet.
Speaker 2: Like we said the afternoon, it was non contest in
Speaker 2: all three games, and we happened to be on the
Speaker 2: dog and two of them they got absolutely rolled.
Speaker 1: It was thirty eight to fifteen when Sam Darnold threw
Speaker 1: a pick in the third quarter after the Cardinals had
Speaker 1: already had already scored a touchdown on a two point conversion.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie like when the Cardinals got that pick,
Speaker 1: because it was deep in Seahawks territor, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I started doing some math, like maybe they get the touchdown,
Speaker 1: maybe they get the two point conversion, thirty eight twenty three,
Speaker 1: like with you know, a quarter and a half left
Speaker 1: in the game. Not impossible, and then they just couldn't
Speaker 1: convert on fourth down and it was over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't. You don't want to waste any of
Speaker 2: your luck on that game. I'm glad we got rolled.
Speaker 2: That would have been a waste to try to use
Speaker 2: some of our you know, after your luck on just
Speaker 2: because it was, like you said, it was beater than
Speaker 2: dead in that first quarter.
Speaker 1: That's right, and honestly like we also at least I did.
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Speaker 1: Tennessee or Virginia. All right, so we got the Eagles
Speaker 1: plus two and a half tomorrow night. We do have
Speaker 1: to address the Broncos, which was Simon says. And when
Speaker 1: we ended the show on Thursday, we were pretty confident
Speaker 1: that was going to be a final five pick. And
Speaker 1: then we talked this morning and it wasn't a final
Speaker 1: five pick. I think you and I didn't communicate or
Speaker 1: actually we just decided it wasn't going to be a
Speaker 1: pick after the show and never made it into the
Speaker 1: final five. And so we that's really what happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we got done the show. You were very
Speaker 2: non committal. As much as I liked it, I think
Speaker 2: you were just being nice and You're like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I wanted to do into the five,
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, we can figure it out.
Speaker 2: And like I always say to people, if we do
Speaker 2: do our Thursday game, I will tweet it out beforehand,
Speaker 2: just because I know people are working they can't catch
Speaker 2: a show. I have no issue for Sunday show obviously,
Speaker 2: we don't want to be tweeting our picks, but Thursday,
Speaker 2: that's a tough spot to try to get people to
Speaker 2: listen and know where our picks for that game. So
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I didn't know we talked about
Speaker 2: it like that. I thought we just said we were
Speaker 2: thinking about putting them as a possibility. If it makes
Speaker 2: people feel better, they want a lot to themselves. Just
Speaker 2: act like I switched out Denver in the Bucks. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's the same thing, Like it's I get where they're
Speaker 2: coming from. We should be two and three right now.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I never there was a high
Speaker 2: possibility of us putting in the Broncos for sure, but
Speaker 2: I definitely since you were not on Middle and putting
Speaker 2: it in. And yeah, like you said, we never even
Speaker 2: discussed put it in after the show and in the
Speaker 2: future Thursday Fridays Saturday games, I'll try to tweet it
Speaker 2: out beforehand in case people don't catch the show. For
Speaker 2: are putting a pick in those early games.
Speaker 1: Honest miscommunication. Matt Mitchell actually was adamant this morning before
Speaker 1: the Sunday show that we did it, and then we
Speaker 1: overruled him and decided that we that We ultimately just
Speaker 1: didn't want to put it in, or at least I
Speaker 1: didn't want to put it in, and so Simon was
Speaker 1: noncommittal on it, and so it just it didn't make
Speaker 1: it in.
Speaker 2: And again we would own it. These people, they know
Speaker 2: the deal. We own our losses. We look to a
Speaker 2: show recap in our picks every week. So I get
Speaker 2: it a huge apology if people did think we did
Speaker 2: say that, but yeah, it's usually get a bed in.
Speaker 2: Chad needs to be all in on it. I need
Speaker 2: to be all on it, especially if it's going to
Speaker 2: be a Thursday or Friday game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, apologies, many many apologies. We obviously exercised as much
Speaker 1: transparency as possible, so when we screwed up, we want
Speaker 1: to make sure everyone's aware of how that happened and
Speaker 1: pulled back the curtain. Lots of bad actors in the
Speaker 1: betting space. A game that we talked a lot about
Speaker 1: today and was the last one out Los Angeles Rams
Speaker 1: at San Francisco. San Francisco was a six point underdog.
Speaker 1: By the time this kicked off. Niners went down early.
Speaker 1: Rams looked like they were playing seven on seven. Niners
Speaker 1: went down fourteen to nothing. They're finally driving. Mac Jones
Speaker 1: is looking like he's the best quarterback on the Niners,
Speaker 1: and Juwan Jennings fumbles and Niners territor. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they're down twenty one to nothing, and like they kept coming,
Speaker 1: they kept coming, they kept coming. The Niners did. Mac
Speaker 1: Jones at one point was like twenty seven of thirty
Speaker 1: or something like that. Christian McCaffrey was slicing and dicing.
Speaker 1: But this defense, they just I felt back for him.
Speaker 1: They couldn't they couldn't make the plays.
Speaker 2: Stafford, Yeah, awesome, Yeah, like you said, the I mean
Speaker 2: this we talked before, and the reason I wanted to
Speaker 2: get out it's just I knew all the pros, the
Speaker 2: smart guys were on the other side, and I heard
Speaker 2: their dvantage point of it, which did make sense. Stafford
Speaker 2: right now is just he breaks the rules. He's yeah,
Speaker 2: he's just on a different level. I think they said,
Speaker 2: I don't know how long it's been, but I know
Speaker 2: for a fact he's the first quarterback in the last
Speaker 2: two years that has three straight games with over four
Speaker 2: touchdown passes in each game. So he's on a roll
Speaker 2: right now. That offense about the Adams Puka fully healthy
Speaker 2: Williams running back. It's just all clicking and like you said,
Speaker 2: that point and defense, they gave us nothing. Mac Jones
Speaker 2: played pretty well. Get rate passing. Yeah, they had two
Speaker 2: or three passing touchdowns. Was really getting Kittle involved, you know,
Speaker 2: to just it's just one of those days. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's I'm glad I gotta still avoid it and take
Speaker 2: it out. I had a bad feeling about it, just
Speaker 2: the noise I was getting about this one, and I
Speaker 2: was just like, Okay, I gotta do something here because
Speaker 2: I can't let it. Like last week, I didn't say
Speaker 2: anything because we had been on a little bit of
Speaker 2: a role. I'm gonna try to speak up whenever. It's
Speaker 2: just like, Okay, we gotta we gotta make a move
Speaker 2: here and get this one out. So would have been
Speaker 2: brutal if the feign Airs came back and covered and
Speaker 2: the Eagles lose the next night, I obviously would feel
Speaker 2: like an idiot. But thank god we're senior. Two and
Speaker 2: two still have a chance of three and two rather
Speaker 2: than two and three. So yeah, the Niners team and
Speaker 2: we'll see next week if the seesaw continues. They just
Speaker 2: that trend is insane since Christmas twenty twenty three. They're
Speaker 2: now one in fifteen against the spread after a straight
Speaker 2: up win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sad for this team because they could be
Speaker 1: so good and they It's like, how do the Rams
Speaker 1: not have the same kind of injury look as the Niners.
Speaker 1: Like every year it's these two teams battling, and every
Speaker 1: year it feels like the Niners are trying to overcome
Speaker 1: and come from behind because of some catastrophic injury and
Speaker 1: it's happened again this year, and it's just it's just
Speaker 1: a bummer. Every year they lose another year of opportunity
Speaker 1: for someone who's brilliant I think and Kyle Shanahan, Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: It's just devastating for that team.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this much. Whatever the billionaire billionaire owner
Speaker 2: did of the Rams with Stafford for that month before
Speaker 2: the season, remember he was just like inside an oxygen
Speaker 2: tube or whatever you go on for like a month
Speaker 2: and they were like, he's just resting for the season, genius.
Speaker 2: I mean, give me one of those.
Speaker 1: Just give it to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could use it.
Speaker 1: I could use it, especially when it's like four point
Speaker 1: thirty and the sun is down and I'm already exhausted
Speaker 1: and want to go to bed and just get under
Speaker 1: the covers. So give me something, and whatever Stafford's got,
Speaker 1: I want it.
Speaker 2: It's seriously that I worked, whatever it was.
Speaker 1: Guess what's working the Chicago Bears and Ben Johnson and
Speaker 1: their ability to score in the final two and a
Speaker 1: half minutes of the game, no matter what the scenario,
Speaker 1: and win. Because today, with two minutes and seventeen seconds left,
Speaker 1: the Bears were down twenty to ten seventy seconds. Seventy
Speaker 1: seven seconds later, they were up twenty four to twenty.
Speaker 1: Comprehend that they scored a touchdown with two minutes seventeen
Speaker 1: seconds left, down twenty seventeen, Literally, with one minute left,
Speaker 1: they scored the go ahead touchdown. That's ridiculous. And it
Speaker 1: was Caleb running it from eighteen yards out for that
Speaker 1: go ahead touchdown. Look, I'm glad we had to put
Speaker 1: in the contest because the contest line was three and
Speaker 1: a half. It was four and a half most of
Speaker 1: the week. I loved it. At four and a half,
Speaker 1: you were against you liked the Bears, especially when it
Speaker 1: was the contest line of three and a half. So
Speaker 1: I'm glad we didn't put it in, but these Bears
Speaker 1: are crazy and they should not have won this game.
Speaker 2: I love it though. It's just there's such a fun team.
Speaker 2: Like you said, fourteen points in that no sense five
Speaker 2: minutes and yeah, this is the way they play like.
Speaker 2: They just never give up. And that's what souks fun.
Speaker 2: When you have a winning culture, you always believe even
Speaker 2: when you were having a bad day. And like you said,
Speaker 2: Dart was doingever he wanted, right, he kind of got
Speaker 2: into that mode with using his legs and like you said,
Speaker 2: they just couldn't stop it. He's just such an asset
Speaker 2: using his legs and that's what bit him though he
Speaker 2: took a hit. They had to bring in Russell Wilson
Speaker 2: and he is just atrocious. Yeah, totally terrible. So Bears
Speaker 2: incredible win. Like you said, the number was four. A
Speaker 2: bunch of people pushed out there the under which we
Speaker 2: talked all week weather under got scared at the end there,
Speaker 2: but it covered every number, even the closing line. I
Speaker 2: think it closed at forty four and a half covered
Speaker 2: that number as well. So yeah, a really really fun game.
Speaker 2: And yeah, the Sparres team's magic. Like you always joke,
Speaker 2: even if you limp into the playoffs. Who cares? You
Speaker 2: Just get Caleb into the dance. Let him get a
Speaker 2: little taste of the speed and how different it is,
Speaker 2: and something to build on heading into the offseason. And yeah,
Speaker 2: you guys to me our year early, really exciting times
Speaker 2: for the Bears, And yeah, the hope is you don't
Speaker 2: fall off a cliff here because this is the exact
Speaker 2: running point of last year. You did, but with a
Speaker 2: new coacher regime, I just think this is another jumping
Speaker 2: off point to keep pushing forward. And you have a
Speaker 2: lot of divisional games at so we really excited to
Speaker 2: see how this desbarassing closed the seasons out.
Speaker 1: We are three games beyond the turning point from last year,
Speaker 1: because last year we were four and two, lost of
Speaker 1: the Commanders, lost ten in a row. Season was over.
Speaker 1: We're six and three, buddy, we're three games beyond last
Speaker 1: season's debacle. But boy, we got away with them with
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart because he was basically winning that game for
Speaker 1: the Giants until he scrambled, fumbled, was concussed deep in
Speaker 1: the Bears territory. That would have put them up at
Speaker 1: least twenty three to ten. And you know it never
Speaker 1: never turned around for the Giants again. How about the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars in the Houston Texans, who we loved all week.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately they were not in the contest for us. Davis
Speaker 1: Mills was picked on the opening drive. It led to
Speaker 1: a field goal. The Jags scored a touchdown on the
Speaker 1: next drive punt return. Then Texans down twenty nine to
Speaker 1: ten in the fourth quarter, and the Jags jagged, and man,
Speaker 1: it was freaking glor ree us to see the Jags
Speaker 1: do exactly what we thought they would do the entire
Speaker 1: freaking game, only have it all compressed into fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Mcduffitely a game, Like you said, it feels like
Speaker 2: you stole one there because Davis Mills did everything in
Speaker 2: his power to give it away to start the game.
Speaker 2: And then special teams told disaster Like you said, this kid,
Speaker 2: you know, this Jaguars team was out Travis Hunter and
Speaker 2: Brian Thomps Junior. It's like they were down there, two receivers,
Speaker 2: they got no name guys making plays against you know,
Speaker 2: the number one defensive football and it's just I was
Speaker 2: killing myself. It's like, all right, that was a bad bet.
Speaker 2: How do I keep trusting this Texas team when I
Speaker 2: should have known better. But you know that was a
Speaker 2: crazy line movement game. That number closed minus one on
Speaker 2: the Texans thirty to twenty nine.
Speaker 1: It opened minus one and a half, bounced to two
Speaker 1: and then closed it bounced to plus two and then
Speaker 1: closed the minus one.
Speaker 2: And like again we always talked about it. I love
Speaker 2: these type of games because Eland's run the one, they
Speaker 2: go for two, they don't get it, and goes, oh
Speaker 2: my god, this is gonna happen, like this is gonna
Speaker 2: be the type of middle people dream of. Like people
Speaker 2: took the Jacks plus one and a half, they took
Speaker 2: Houston plus one and a half. They're going to hit
Speaker 2: a one on the one on both sides and just
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, Trevor Lawrence in the book or in the
Speaker 2: in the together, terrible turnover. Then the game guy walks
Speaker 2: in for a touchdown, they cover the number. I think
Speaker 2: they won thirty six. Pretty insane for anyone that.
Speaker 1: Second time this year after that Eagles game. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: cover turned on a last second fluke play.
Speaker 2: By a four hundred pound guy, by a four.
Speaker 1: Under pound guy who just didn't stop. He's just like,
Speaker 1: I am freaking scoring a touchdown. Here, what's crazy is
Speaker 1: in that fourth quarter the Texans scored twenty six points.
Speaker 1: They outscored the Jacks twenty six to nothing in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, including that last second touchdown. In between that,
Speaker 1: other than that last drive, between the start of the
Speaker 1: fourth and when the Texas took the lead, the Jackars
Speaker 1: had what was it, three plays for minus four yards
Speaker 1: three plays for six yards, so they had six plays
Speaker 1: for two yards with a Jack's touch with a Texas
Speaker 1: touchdown before between and after those two drives and Davis Mills,
Speaker 1: by the way, the drive, the game winning drive ninety
Speaker 1: three yards on fourteen plays and they ended it with
Speaker 1: a Davis Mills fifteen yard scramble and they were only
Speaker 1: on the fifteen yard line because they had been on
Speaker 1: the two and then had multiple penalties and plays for
Speaker 1: a loss that pushed them back to the fifteenth so
Speaker 1: it was like third in goal when he scrambled for
Speaker 1: their game winning touchdown. Total miracle by Davis Mills and
Speaker 1: the Texans. Kudos, thank you. We didn't get into the contest,
Speaker 1: but it certainly did help our ledger for the day.
Speaker 1: Another team that helped our ledger for the day, the
Speaker 1: New York Jets plus two against the Cleveland Browns, and listen,
Speaker 1: we said all week this wasn't a bet on the Jets.
Speaker 1: It was a bet against Dylan Gabriel as an NFL quarterback,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of how it played out.
Speaker 2: He did all right. It's also just about stupid football,
Speaker 2: is right. We got a special team's touchdown filed like
Speaker 2: a kick return followed by a punt return.
Speaker 1: It's right now.
Speaker 2: You can't make it up, so I'll take it. Like
Speaker 2: we said, that was a Jets spot. Jets number came
Speaker 2: through another game. We're both kicking ourselves. We didn't play
Speaker 2: in the contest, but it was. It was minus one
Speaker 2: and a half, so it was tough to get there.
Speaker 2: But we screwed up. This was we almost made this
Speaker 2: Rock and a hard Place this morning.
Speaker 1: We took that and we almost made it brass balls
Speaker 1: and we took it Arizona instead.
Speaker 2: So bad miss on us. We just we loved it
Speaker 2: all week. We just always wanted the two and a
Speaker 2: half and hard Rock never got there. We stay at
Speaker 2: the two. So you know, this Jets team is terrible.
Speaker 2: They're inconsistent, they're up and down, but they have won
Speaker 2: two games. In a row at this point, and that's
Speaker 2: you know, like we always seen in the NFL, that's
Speaker 2: really hard to do. So we might have said this
Speaker 2: was a spot for them to steal and win it.
Speaker 2: But you know, as much crap you like to give,
Speaker 2: Justin Fields, he did enough to win this game, and
Speaker 2: the defense shockingly got stops when needed too. It's just
Speaker 2: I can't believe it because I was worried the Jets
Speaker 2: were gonna roll over and die after they sold off
Speaker 2: all their defensive players, and they didn't. They fought really
Speaker 2: hard in this game. And kudos to the Aaron Glenn
Speaker 2: keeping that unit unified.
Speaker 1: Justin Fields did enough. Is strong get eleven attempts. Justin
Speaker 1: Fields was six of eleven, Yeah, for fifty four yards.
Speaker 1: Forty two of those yards came on a screen pass
Speaker 1: to Breese Hall, who ran forty two yards for a
Speaker 1: touchdown justin Justin Fields like, he had a couple of
Speaker 1: nice runs he made. You know, he didn't make the
Speaker 1: big mistakes. I don't know if he did just enough
Speaker 1: or he just stayed out.
Speaker 2: Of the way stah the way. Honestly, though, he had
Speaker 2: a couple of big third downs for us. That that's
Speaker 2: why we covered the storm, but it's the OC like
Speaker 2: as Wuch I want to blame justin fields. He basically
Speaker 2: was said to him, you're not losing this game for us.
Speaker 2: I don't care if there's a guy wide open ten
Speaker 2: yards downfield. Yeah, you're not throwing it downfield because the
Speaker 2: one time he did, he threw a pick. So it
Speaker 2: was a game where they just knew the Browns that
Speaker 2: beat themselves and they got very lucky. Their special teams
Speaker 2: just dominated this matchup.
Speaker 1: This was the beauty of back game. The Jets went
Speaker 1: forward on fourth and four from midfield with a minute left.
Speaker 1: The Browns had no timeouts, so if they went forward
Speaker 1: and they got it, the game was over and they
Speaker 1: didn't have to worry about it because they drew the
Speaker 1: Browns off sides and they got the first down. Go Jets, go.
Speaker 1: Good for them. They managed it brilliantly. They got all
Speaker 1: they got the Browns to make all the mistakes they
Speaker 1: needed to make. That Browns team is just dreadful. Can't
Speaker 1: wait to better them at plus eight and a half
Speaker 1: at home against Baltimore in Week eleven. Shame, shame, shame, Simon.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with the Cardinals. Offensive line. Same
Speaker 1: on you, because when you've got an immobile veteran second
Speaker 1: string quarterback, the one thing you have to do is
Speaker 1: try to keep that immobile veteran second string quarterback upright
Speaker 1: or at least give him more than zero point seven
Speaker 1: seconds to get the ball out. And when you in
Speaker 1: the first drive of the game and then in the
Speaker 1: first drive of the second quarter, allowed the same guy
Speaker 1: to get pressure to create the same fumble and the
Speaker 1: same guy to scoop and score, that is an abject
Speaker 1: failure on the part of everybody, from the interior offensive
Speaker 1: line to the offensive line coach, to the offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: to the head coach, to the quarterback. But mostly it's
Speaker 1: the offensive line. So shame shame, shame on the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals offensive line.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna shame Todd Bowles and that Bucks defense. Same same.
Speaker 2: I can't get over the scheme, the decisions he made
Speaker 2: in this matchup with Drake May You should have beat
Speaker 2: him and he even though they gut to turn a
Speaker 2: row from they got to pick off him, he still
Speaker 2: is having an off dat and they couldn't take advantage
Speaker 2: of it because they couldn't stop Henderson, the guy we
Speaker 2: talked about a guy that was in the doghouse for
Speaker 2: this team. They let him average ten point five yards
Speaker 2: per carry. The Buck crazy, a team that hadn't given
Speaker 2: up one hundred yard rusher in like thirty straight games
Speaker 2: at one point. It's just I can't believe scheme wise,
Speaker 2: they just let that go. They got beat by the
Speaker 2: run game in a game, but once again that Drake
Speaker 2: May struggled, maccollins had over one hundred yard receiving against them.
Speaker 2: It's just just an atrocious game plan by that Bucks defense.
Speaker 2: On a day that you know, as bad as up
Speaker 2: and down as Baker was, still threw for over two
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty yards and three touchdowns like they should
Speaker 2: have been in this game, shouldn't be able to win it,
Speaker 2: especially in that bad weather, and the defense just could
Speaker 2: not get key stops, and it all comes down to
Speaker 2: that fourth down like you talked about before half. Shame
Speaker 2: on you, Todd Bowles and that Bucks defense.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. I wish I had thought of
Speaker 1: that one. That's a good one because mac collins getting
Speaker 1: open in the middle of field and having multiple third
Speaker 1: down conversions and Drake May finding miracle ways to spin
Speaker 1: out of Vita Vea's hands and then reset and hit mccollins.
Speaker 1: But that's a failure of the secondary and their ability
Speaker 1: to cover. And that's that goes to scheme. And we
Speaker 1: love Todd Bowles and we thought this would be a
Speaker 1: great coaching matchup, and Mike Rabel just beat him. He
Speaker 1: out coached him in every sense of the word. He's
Speaker 1: been doing it all season to everybody he's coached sharp
Speaker 1: or square. Hero of the week? You know who my
Speaker 1: hero is, Simon? Tell me last week you graciously made
Speaker 1: me the hero because I chose Atlanta. Yeah, I am
Speaker 1: making you one of the heroes of the week forgetting
Speaker 1: us to choose the Miami Dolphins. Here's what I know.
Speaker 1: We've been doing the show long enough that when you
Speaker 1: start like talking about a game early in the week,
Speaker 1: like the Dolphins, and you keep bringing it up and
Speaker 1: keep bringing it up, and like you're not being adamant,
Speaker 1: but you're not walking away from it, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you get closer to being adamant. I
Speaker 1: know enough to make that bet, so I may the bet,
Speaker 1: and I know enough to put the game in the contest,
Speaker 1: So we put it in the contest and that's because
Speaker 1: you did your thing. That was very impressive. The other
Speaker 1: guy who did his thing, who you said would do
Speaker 1: his thing was Devon h Chan, who I mentioned earlier.
Speaker 1: I had one hundred and seventy four yards rushing, multiple
Speaker 1: big gains, multiple touchdowns. It looked like he was playing
Speaker 1: against a pee wee league team out there. They just
Speaker 1: could not tackle him when they could catch him. They
Speaker 1: couldn't tackle him. When they couldn't tackle him, they couldn't
Speaker 1: catch him. It was it was an impressive performance, for sure.
Speaker 2: I came I'm gonna give it to him, but I
Speaker 2: have to already give him enough praise. But I keep
Speaker 2: got to go back to it. Just Stafford Hero of
Speaker 2: the Week. I just can't get everybody did in this game,
Speaker 2: Like we should have back doored that game in a
Speaker 2: million different ways, and the guy just killed us, wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Let's get back into it. Twenty four of thirty six,
Speaker 2: two hundred eighty yards, four touchdowns, no picks. Just he's
Speaker 2: out of this sport right now. Got to be if
Speaker 2: we wake up tomorrow, he's got to be the favorite
Speaker 2: for MVP. It's just incredible what he's doing at his age,
Speaker 2: staying upright staying healthy and he as an Eagles fan. Definitely,
Speaker 2: my biggest fear right now is this Rams team. We
Speaker 2: talked coming into the air, like I put them and
Speaker 2: the Egles at the top just because of how well
Speaker 2: the Rams played last year and everything's improved. Their defense
Speaker 2: is tough for their offense is just the machine right now.
Speaker 2: So my only hope is, just like the Patriots, maybe
Speaker 2: they're peaking a little too early. So we'll see coming
Speaker 2: down the stretch.
Speaker 1: Right now, Drake May is plus two to eighty seven
Speaker 1: as MVP. Matthew Staffords plus three hundred, so we'll see
Speaker 1: in the morning, like it could easily turn that way.
Speaker 1: It feels to me like everyone just wants it to
Speaker 1: be Drake May.
Speaker 2: It's the new toy. I'm about it. He deserves it.
Speaker 2: I agree with that, I guess.
Speaker 1: But look if the if the Rams are the number
Speaker 1: one seed and Matthew Stafford leads the league in passing
Speaker 1: and leads the league in touchdown passes and he set
Speaker 1: a record today, he got set a personal record, got
Speaker 1: to four hundred career passing touchdowns, So good for him.
Speaker 1: Man thirty seven years old, gray Beard, freaking Ballin' love
Speaker 1: it for him. He just looks like he's having so
Speaker 1: much fun. He's playing an entirely different game. They had
Speaker 1: a great Tom Brady, who I think is actually getting better,
Speaker 1: not getting better, he's just good. He had a great
Speaker 1: comment about when you're that old, the number of times
Speaker 1: you've seen every defensive coordinator, the number of times you've
Speaker 1: seen every matchup, the number of signs you've seen every scheme,
Speaker 1: you have an answer for it every single time. There's
Speaker 1: nothing that is confusing for him. You never saw him
Speaker 1: get rattled today. It was amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of my heroes. Favorite saying from Bain.
Speaker 2: I was wondering what to break first, your body or
Speaker 2: your mind, and with him, it's all about the body.
Speaker 2: If his body doesn't break, you can't not break Stafford's mind.
Speaker 2: This man is seeing it all. Like you said, he's
Speaker 2: got plays for days when the players don't work out.
Speaker 2: He always knows where the next guy is and who
Speaker 2: is open on the defensive scheme once he sees a playout.
Speaker 2: So yeah, if they can keep him up right, he
Speaker 2: stays healthy. This is gotta be odds on favorite right
Speaker 2: now in the NFC. They're just so dominant on the
Speaker 2: Rams team.
Speaker 1: Very good team, Simon says, was Denver minus nine and
Speaker 1: a half. We've worked through that tragedy. Chad's choice was
Speaker 1: Tampa minus two and a half. Brass Balls was Arizona
Speaker 1: plus six and a half. Terrible rock and hard place
Speaker 1: with San Francisco plus six, sharp versus square. I at
Speaker 1: San Francisco, I got it at four and a half.
Speaker 1: You in Miami plus nine and a half. Whoo, you
Speaker 1: are my hero?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did I ever tell you Yoma he our favorite? Parlay Panthers, Lions, yes,
Speaker 1: Ravens yes, Box No, Bears, yes, Underdog Parlay Jets yes,
Speaker 1: Houston yes, San Francisco no. I'll take you though, Yeah, totally,
Speaker 1: totally all right. We talked a lot of the questions tonight.
Speaker 1: Where about the Broncos Again, we apologize we didn't manage
Speaker 1: that well. We will manage it better going forward. Early
Speaker 1: Leans for you, Simon, A couple, a couple stood out
Speaker 1: to me already.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were so hot last week on these early Leans.
Speaker 2: Let's see if you can keep it rolling, buddy. Last week.
Speaker 1: Remind people last week, yeah, remind people what we did.
Speaker 2: We had Rams minus three, uh, Ravens minus three, and
Speaker 2: somehow we had the Lions minus three. That was before
Speaker 2: obviously Daniels got hurt in that game. I I like
Speaker 2: the Dogs. I'm not gonna lie to each other. I
Speaker 2: like the dogs this coming week, and there's some really
Speaker 2: gross ones that just jump out instantly. I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: what should we start with? Commanders? They're plus two right
Speaker 2: now on the road against that Miami team.
Speaker 1: Well, don't forget that game is Madrid.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll still like the Canyons a little bit. But again, well,
Speaker 2: I've been very lucky. I've been bet like I bet
Speaker 2: Atlanta last week plus six and a half, and somehow
Speaker 2: that hit. I got very lucky on that one, even
Speaker 2: though I thought it was home. So yeah, I just
Speaker 2: that one jumped out for a gross dog that people
Speaker 2: are gonna hate. Jaguars are gonna be plus one and
Speaker 2: a half right now at home against this Chargers team.
Speaker 2: We'll see how they perform tonight, this Chargers team. But
Speaker 2: I just I feel like the Jacks front would actually
Speaker 2: give that Chargers team a lot of problems. I think
Speaker 2: you nailed it when you said Cleveland plus eight and
Speaker 2: a half. I know, how can you not? And I
Speaker 2: know we're all bitter, we're all very bitter to this Denver
Speaker 2: Bronco team. Denver Broncos plus four plus three and a
Speaker 2: half right now against the Chiefs at home.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like the Cleveland number is going to
Speaker 1: move up? Because I mean, I don't know how it doesn't.
Speaker 1: With Baltimore winning at Minnesota today and Cleveland losing to
Speaker 1: the Jets, it just feels to me like that number
Speaker 1: is going to get bigger.
Speaker 2: It could, but that's it's It's gonna be an amazing
Speaker 2: spot for this Cleveland team. So I mean, it could
Speaker 2: be like Miami. I hope, like I got a couple
Speaker 2: of tens on Miami. That's how high that number got. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you could be right here. This Kigut pushed the ten
Speaker 2: bec is no one only pros are gonna be taking
Speaker 2: Cleveland here totally. I keep saying it. I know it's
Speaker 2: lazy if people hate it, but this Cleveland team is
Speaker 2: totally different and it keeps proving to being out true
Speaker 2: on the road and at home. So that feels to
Speaker 2: got a great spot, great match up for them, just
Speaker 2: like it does with Denver. Yeah, next week, these games
Speaker 2: aren't credible, Like I I don't want to give an
Speaker 2: opinion yet but I kind of like Detroit against the Eagles.
Speaker 2: They're plus one and a half on the road against
Speaker 2: this Eagles team. I'm not rushing to take it because
Speaker 2: the Eagles play really well. I think we could get
Speaker 2: a two and a half three, because again it's it's
Speaker 2: golf on the road, outdoors, playing against a really good
Speaker 2: defensive front. So that one intrigues me. Where it's like
Speaker 2: this right now is an Eagles number, But I could
Speaker 2: see us getting two and a half three on this
Speaker 2: Lion's team, and I had to take a position on them.
Speaker 1: Arizona, there are threes available. Arizona plus three at home
Speaker 1: against San Francisco. Obviously we're talking about blowout versus blowout ish,
Speaker 1: but I'm not afraid to back Arizona again. I think
Speaker 1: this was.
Speaker 2: A you know, I can't do it right now because
Speaker 2: I'm just so bitter, but that's probably the right read.
Speaker 1: That was the to me. The big games, unfortunately that
Speaker 1: stood out were Cleveland plus eight and a half and Arizona.
Speaker 1: If you can find the three, it's two and a
Speaker 1: half most places.
Speaker 2: But if you can find that, no, I like the Dogs.
Speaker 2: I would say I like the Dogs. This upcoming week
Speaker 2: there's some some juicy numbers there.
Speaker 1: So frustrating, so frustrating, all right, So a reminder, we
Speaker 1: won with Baltimore minus three and a half and Miami
Speaker 1: plus nine and a half. We lost with the Bucks
Speaker 1: minus two and a half and with the Cardinals plus
Speaker 1: six and a half. We have the Eagles plus two
Speaker 1: and a half remaining for tomorrow night. We are two
Speaker 1: and two for the week. This has been Sharper Square
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