1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Which is anonymous with the Laria Baldwin and Michelle Campbell 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: Mason and I heart radio podcast Hey, which is welcome back. 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm e Laria, and I'm Michelle. Hi. I'm Elizabeth Rome. 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: I am an actress and director and author. And I'm 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: so happy to be here to talk about the launch 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: of Emulay with Hilaria and Michelle. We're so happy to 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: have you now. I am always wanted to get right 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: into the whole mom conversation because I heard that you're 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: you were like an original mom blogger. Oh yeah, tell 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: me everything. I'm so much older than you, guys, And 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: yes I was. And it was really cool because um, 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: you know, I had a new child and babies, mom 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: and mom and babies, you know, with people was sort 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: of becoming and they reached out and asked me if 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: I would write a couple of blogs, and the blogs 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: took off, and I basically did it for three years. 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: In fact, it was such a joy. They're also mean, 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: these women, and also so judgmental and and yet so 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: wonderful and and you kind of just fault, you sort 20 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: of tumble head first into this dialogue with them, and 21 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: and I realized they were mostly critical of me when 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't like really be vulnerable, and so as I 23 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: the more truth, I began to tell of my own 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: personal experience, my own self doubts or this, and then 25 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: it really took off the blog and actually led to 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: me writing my book about um my journey with infertility 27 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: and having my child. So the whole blogging experience with 28 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: people was really it actually was a great joy for 29 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: several years, many years. Actually, I love I love the 30 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: the parenting section on people. So you you started a 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: good thing. I mean, so you say they were so 32 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: they were so mean and those are sort of people 33 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: who like critics and trolls. They would kind of like 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: come after you. Yeah, you know, it's really funny. I 35 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: think when it comes to parenting, it's I mean, I 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: don't know, I feel I feel it for sure. Around 37 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: the topic of fertility, people are so judgmental. And that's 38 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: why I understandably. You know, you you see not that 39 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: many people coming out of the closet about their fertility 40 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: journey because you know, who wants to be vulnerable about 41 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: this topic When you yourself feel like you know, you're 42 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: sort of failing at like you know what you should 43 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: be doing inherently it should be like your natural born 44 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: gift to be able to bring a child into the world. 45 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: And when it's not, it feels devastating and so personal, 46 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: maybe even humiliating, because you're like, why is my body 47 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: not cooperating this end? It feels you feel entirely powerless, right, 48 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: because bringing a child into the world is the greatest 49 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: thing of all, right, that's ultimate power. So UM, I 50 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: think that parents in general, mothers in general have I've found, 51 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, tend to be very judgmental of one another 52 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: as opposed to supportive. UM, and that was unfortunate in it. 53 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: I guess ultimately we're all just sort of running scared 54 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: in life, and we all, um can come from a 55 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: fear based place. And the more truth I began to 56 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: tell with the blogs, I think I ingratiated myself with them, 57 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: and they felt I was more of a trusted voice 58 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: as opposed to just somebody to be criticized for my judgment. Well, 59 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: I think the more that we have these conversations and 60 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: and you know, I mean we all stand on each 61 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: other's shoulders, like you know, I feel that my working 62 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: is my working is whether my contributions or just my 63 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: presence in the mom community has a lot of been 64 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: standing on pure shoulders. And even if I didn't know 65 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: I was standing on your shoulders, your actions and your 66 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: openness made a step that therefore I could make the 67 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: next step forward. And we always have to be you know, 68 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: I mean here on which is anonymous. We're very focused 69 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: on history and how we're interconnected through so many different generations. 70 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: So you know, I want to say thank you. I 71 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: think something that you're saying right now also really really 72 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: touches me right now, which is that people thought that 73 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: it may and correct me if I'm wrong, But the 74 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: people are writing and saying you're not being open, and 75 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if open equals just sharing the bad parts. Well, 76 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: that's really interesting that you hone in on that, because 77 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: misery loves company, and I think that is a terrible 78 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: trait um and and I think there is some truth 79 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: to that. When I first was writing the blogs, and 80 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: I was coming from this place of I've figured it 81 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: all out, and you know, look at me in my 82 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: perfect life. You know, I every I was booed off 83 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: the stage. But when I came with my questions and 84 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: I came with my I don't know, and I came 85 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: with myself doubt or my worry or things we might 86 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: perceive as the negative things or whatever. I would say, 87 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: they're the human things. But you're right. That is when 88 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: the audience started to get built, because I became a 89 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: voice that was to be trusted as opposed to I 90 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: don't relate to her and her perfect life or whatever 91 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: and anyway, and all those questions were true, and they 92 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: were part of my journey, and I didn't know how 93 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: to do some parenting stuff. I mean, it was really 94 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: a hard time for me because my mom died when 95 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: my child was almost two and I was in my thirties, 96 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: and and it was just a really scary time because 97 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: I didn't have this matriarch that and then my mom's 98 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: sister died two years later, so I lost too matriarchs 99 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: sort of in one fell swoop. And as I was 100 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: blogging as a you know, mom blogger, I was also 101 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: sort of lacking and having, you know, the women, the 102 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: matriarchs in my life had all passed away very suddenly. 103 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: So it was a crazy time. And I I'm glad 104 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 1: that I started to blog from the perspective of what's 105 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: my question, what's my insecurity. What don't I know versus 106 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: what I did think I knew, you know what I 107 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: felt I knew because that didn't reach anybody. We pulled 108 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: that a quote from from your book Baby Steps. When 109 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: women stopped talking, women stopped being heard. And I think 110 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: that next to everything we're trying to talk about here 111 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: so much so with motherhood and infertility, but in every 112 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: aspect of your life, because I see, you know, the 113 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,119 Speaker 1: negative side of drolling, in which it's almost it's easy 114 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: to just you don't want to say anything, you don't 115 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: want to engage because it's it's sometimes a very fruitless conversation. 116 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: But at the same time, as to your quote, when 117 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: you stop talking, your voice goes away. So it's an 118 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: interesting juxtaposition of the two things. Did you engage with 119 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: it or did you just keep telling your story? I 120 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: never I never did. I never did. I just like 121 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: really always taken the high road. I'm not interested in 122 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: having commenting, you know, back, I just want to, you know, 123 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: make sure I always this is a prayer I always 124 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: say to myself before I do anything. Is it good? 125 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: Is it true? Is it necessary? And if I feel 126 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: like those boxes are checked, like I'm like full on 127 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: full steam ahead, but I don't need to comment on it. 128 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, with the Respect Project, for instance, 129 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 1: I have this talks Rea's um and I asked myself 130 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: that when I'm doing them, you know, is this good? 131 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: Is this true? Is it necessary? Does it put something 132 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: into the world that you know can make an impact? 133 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: And you you know, can say, oh, that sounds really 134 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: fru fru and whatever, like, who are you to decide 135 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: if it makes an impact? I just mean from my perspective, 136 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: do I feel like I'm putting something authentic in the 137 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: world that can help other people? Or is it about 138 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: my ego? You know? And if it feels clear, then 139 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: I think it's worth it, like you said, Michelle, because 140 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: people need to keep talking and we have to tell 141 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: the truth on behalf of each other, not just ourselves. 142 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: If I say I had fertility issues and here's what 143 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: I learned, I'm helping out future mothers and future families. 144 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: If I keep my secrets locked up, how am I helping, 145 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, the reproductive generation sorted out? You know, Yeah, 146 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: we talked about that here because we're always talking about 147 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: kind of like grounding spiritual practice to help sometimes just 148 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: cope with all of these things, UM, and that to 149 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: me to want I always deal, which is kind of 150 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: a Buddhist philosophy of right thought, right action, right mind, 151 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: and just that all wrapped up with intention and intention 152 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: to serve others through your actions. And I think, being 153 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: that you start on so many levels, could you kind 154 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: of give us your background because obviously so many people 155 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: know you from Law and Order and you have this 156 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: amazing career with so many different facets, so I can 157 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: would be best coming from you? Yeah? Sure, I mean, 158 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm I'm. I was born in Europe. I'm still a 159 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: German citizen. I was raised in New York City. UM. 160 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: I went to Sarah Lawrence College. My mother went to 161 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: Sarah Lawrence College. I pursued acting right out of school, 162 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: and did you know, I was very lucky to develop 163 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: a TV career. Then I left Law and Order and 164 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: I began to develop more of a movie career. I 165 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: did movies like American Hustle and Joy and started, you know, 166 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: a collaborative relationship UM as an actor with the director 167 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: David oh Russell. And now I'm directing. UM. I just 168 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: came back from New York directing Law and Order, which 169 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: was a really fun and you know, such a sweet return. 170 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: And I've directed several movies for lifetime. My most recent 171 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: one was the Last um Performance of Anne Hash. I 172 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: directed that in May, and I really went through a 173 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: really intense journey with her. And one thing I will 174 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: say in regards to telling our stories on behalf of 175 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: other people, she was very vocal about the abuse she 176 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: had experienced in childhood. She was a very brave soul, 177 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: and she was really committed to, you know, being on 178 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: a platform to use her voice to stop violence against women. 179 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: And that was why she wanted to do this movie. 180 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: And so it was sad, very very sad. You know 181 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: that her addiction and her issues, you know, you know 182 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: ran the day that faithful day and um, but I 183 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: know for her, her intention was to get out there 184 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: and tell her story and support this film, but really 185 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: to support other women and men who are experiencing abuse. 186 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: So so you know that that's what's happening with me currently. 187 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: About three years ago, I started a nonprofit called the 188 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: Respect Project, where I moderate conversations with a diverse panel 189 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: of people to punt essential topics of the time and 190 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: try to with respect find solutions by listening to each 191 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: other and respecting that we really are all different and 192 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: we're all going to come from a different point of view. 193 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: And recently I became a shareholder in a company that 194 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to talk to you guys about called Emulay, 195 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: and it's the first ever baby bottle company to hit 196 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: the market that truly, truly completely with scientific data um 197 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: and our scientific advisory board confirming that it's the first 198 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: bottle to emulate you know, breastfeeding testing closes the gap 199 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: between breast and bottle feeding, which, as you know, Hilaria, 200 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: is very tricky. Yeah. Right now, my first daughter and 201 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: this my most recent daughter, they don't love bottles, and 202 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: so that is like I will be very curious to try, 203 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: and it's it's they will take one if they're starving, 204 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: but other than that, they're like nope. And then I'm thinking, 205 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: I'm storing up all this milk and you're not taking 206 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: a bottle. It's yeah, yeah, Well, there are a lot 207 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: of issues around bottle feeding. I mean also, you know, 208 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: one is emotional. You know, as a mom, you're like, 209 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: you don't want to do the bottle because you don't 210 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: want nipple confusion, right, I mean, you don't want them 211 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: to prefer the bottle and then not you and you 212 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,239 Speaker 1: love breastfeeding, and so it becomes really an emotional journey. 213 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: So what's cool about emi lay is that, um, it's 214 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: an app. It takes you, you line it up to 215 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: your breast and it takes it with data points. It 216 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: basically I identifies the shape of your nipple, the texture 217 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: and the color and through scientific research, and it doesn't 218 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: take a photograph. It just creates data points. So you're 219 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: your you know, your privacy is protected and there is 220 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: no image floating around of your breast. It's just these 221 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: data points that basically you know how a nipple has texture, 222 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: it has hills and valleys and so forth. You know. 223 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: So that and also of course we're not all the 224 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: same skin, skin tone, you know, and so therefore you know, 225 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: having some white bottle if you're a dark skinned woman, 226 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: it just doesn't feel you don't feel represented. And so 227 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: through this app, it collects these data points and gives 228 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: you five options of color as as well as shape 229 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: and texture. The the nipple part of the bottle is 230 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: very thin and it's very elastic, so it feels almost 231 00:12:55,240 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: like the pull on an actual nipple, and inside the 232 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: nipple on the bottle, there are I wish I could 233 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: show it to you, but there are little strings. So 234 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: it actually feels like it has the texture of like 235 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: suckling on the nipple, that it has that texture in it. Yeah. 236 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: So there are many reasons why we say we're closing 237 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: the gap between breast and bottle feeding and making it 238 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: a more hopefully supporting women and their mental health and 239 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: their journey as new moms with in the feeding process, 240 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: right because you need rest, you have lots of babies, 241 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: and like you need to rest and you're pumping like 242 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: crazy and you don't want the bottle to become a 243 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: problem for you. Right. Well, it's also I mean you're 244 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: touching on something that we all know very well, which 245 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: is we've been put into I feel like we're starting 246 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: to come together in terms of the women in our group, 247 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: the breastfeeders and the bottle feeders, right, either d formula 248 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: or your breastfeeding, right, and and you know a breast 249 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: is best. They have all of that kind of thing. 250 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: And then the then people start to say, don't you 251 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: dared do that? Because you're making me feel bad about this, 252 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: and I don't necessarily I don't so it's so divided. 253 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: And I had a similar experience with you, but for 254 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: different reasons. Where um my first son, Rafa, who's my 255 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: second kid. He I got pregnant with Leo when Ruffle 256 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: was six months old, and my milk started to dry up. 257 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: And at this point, this is one of the reasons 258 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: that I got so obsessed with pumping, is because I 259 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: didn't have a storage back then, but a little bit 260 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: but not a lot. And I was thinking, oh my god, 261 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: I have to start to feed in formula ten months old. 262 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm a failure because they because I kept on hearing 263 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: breast is best, I'm a failure. I was so upset 264 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: about it. It's my fault. I got pregnant during this. 265 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: I should have been more careful, and now it's my 266 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: poor son. And he was born a month early, so 267 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: I worried about him anyway, and I mean, he's totally fine, 268 00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: but like you know, he it was something that I 269 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: felt so bad about it. And then I remember giving him, 270 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: after obsessing about which formula him the first thing formula, 271 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: and I was sure that something bad was going to 272 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: happen to him. And I looked at I was like, 273 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: it's the same thing and I was like, all that fear, 274 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: all of that like drama of this camp and this 275 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: camp of women, and it's the same thing. So that 276 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: and that doesn't mean that I didn't breastfeed my other kids. Well, 277 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: but in also to your point, Hilary, and I think 278 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: it's a really important one. It's like, stop all the hating. 279 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: It's like, who cares. I know women who don't want 280 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: to breastfeed, and you know what their phenomenal parents or 281 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: they didn't they just didn't want to. It's also very 282 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: the latching on process can sometimes not happen easily. That's 283 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: intense of your nipples. It's painful. Yeah, So that's another 284 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: thing about Emulae. If let's say you're not a match 285 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: with your baby and there's some latching on problems, you 286 00:15:53,360 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: could actually um with our app which launches um this sweek. 287 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: I think on the on the and at apple um, 288 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: you can identify another nipple shape that would work with 289 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: your baby. So we're creating possibilities for women as opposed 290 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: to judgments. And so you don't want to, you don't 291 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: want to breastfeed, use the ball great. You could actively 292 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: have it match your breast and feel like you're having 293 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: an intimate relationship with your child. Why should I feel 294 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: bad if I don't want a breastfeed. I can actually 295 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: create a bottle through Emula that's going to be as 296 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: close to my nipple and you know the experience of 297 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: breastfeeding as possible. And then moms like you, we're trying 298 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: to find balance and you know also you need to 299 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: get rest, and you know, we all know it's important 300 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: we have to take care of ourselves. There's that. So 301 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: we really think that Emula, our our hashtag is yours 302 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: come a truly because it's going to be the closest 303 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: match to you, whatever your journey is. We are available 304 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: for pre order and you can and then we're launching 305 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: March eighth, so we appreciate definitely. Well, well, well that's 306 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: I'll definitely be first in line for that. So we're 307 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: talking before before speaking with you about another baby idea, 308 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: which is multiple projects and you know something that Michelle 309 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: has many many babies in in in this way no, Michelle, 310 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: well this and I touched on this a little bit 311 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: when we were talking the other day and really, um, 312 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: how multifasketed everybody is in life, right and your knowledge 313 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: in creating this scientifically based alternative for the bottle is phenomenal, 314 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: but there's so much more tat than that, and one's 315 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: ability to reinvent and where many hats, without deluding their skills, 316 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 1: set their intention and their purpose in any of their 317 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: other careers. I think is a very important thing to 318 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: discuss because you are an actor and a director, and 319 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: obviously sometimes as someone who does wear a lot of hats, 320 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: I find us being judged for being almost, you know, 321 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: kind of distracted or scattered. And I know it doesn't 322 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: seem fair to call it a gendered experience, but I 323 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: know a lot of men with multiple investment companies and 324 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't hear them getting the same flak. And I 325 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: wonder if that's something you've experienced as well, coming from 326 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: being acting and having these curts differ. Absolutely, I do 327 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: think it's uh. I think, you know, we don't get this. 328 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: We're not treated the same for sure, and I think 329 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: we have to be very careful and more you know, humble, 330 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: you know than men you know in general. Um, I 331 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: think that you know, if your triple threat, you know 332 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: you're going to meet some criticism in a way where 333 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: a guy wouldn't write, you know, they're celebrated for it. 334 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: Always a great actor, he's a great producer, he's a 335 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: great director, he's an entrepreneur, he's running a company, he's 336 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: just raised five hundred million dollars, he's gonna sort of 337 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, and all these things are celebrated. But a woman, 338 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's overly ambitious or you know, oh, 339 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: have you retired from acting now that you're directing? And 340 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I haven't. You know, so it's like, 341 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: why are you being asked these questions? I haven't like 342 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: thought about it beyond just feeling like that. That just 343 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: does feel distinctly female, that you would be criticized for 344 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: being um, you know, maybe too much or something in general, 345 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: maybe you're too much of an opinion or sorry. That 346 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: takes us back to right, like that takes us back 347 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: to like broader which theory and the word just demonizing 348 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: people because in the end, it's like you're threatening because 349 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: you are, You're annoying because you had too many things 350 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: to say or too many things that you were doing 351 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: or whatnot that you know, it was one of the 352 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: many buckets in which a which was put um. So 353 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: I also think something that I'd love to explore with 354 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: you is how procedural draw as life Law and Order 355 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: and being on a show like that for such a 356 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: long time, how they how they portray women, and how 357 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: how sometimes my perspective, as I don't know yours, they 358 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: have seemed quite replaceable and just not as developed in 359 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: some sub shows. Not saying Law in Order in particular, 360 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying other procedurals. And it's, uh, you always 361 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: know who the male stars, but the women seemed to cycle, 362 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: and I find that to be a bit jarring. Did 363 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: you have that perception at all? Or well, I will 364 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,239 Speaker 1: just say, yeah, you can easily become like just a 365 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: bond girl kind of a person on on you know, 366 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: as as one of the a d s on Law 367 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: and Order. However, um, I sort of broke the mold. 368 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: I was like wanting to wear red lipstick and cut 369 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: my bangs and life was totally feminine. And I think 370 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: like I bumped up against a lot of fan criticism 371 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: because I was so different from you know what, But 372 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: eventually they embraced me. It was the world will embrace you, 373 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, but you have to sort of take ownership 374 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: of that. So I think as an actor, that's your 375 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: job to build a character. Um. It was really fun 376 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: to go back to Law and Order with Odelia, who's 377 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: starring in the role that you know was my role 378 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: back then, and really focus on um being a director, 379 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: but a female director written. The screenplay was written by 380 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: two women, and it was about the Tinder swindler, so 381 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: it was about dating and you know, to really and 382 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: it was really focused on Odelia and Cameron's characters the most, 383 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: and it was so much fun for me to put, 384 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: you know, push them into the spotlight, let the guys 385 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: hang back a little bit because it was the women's 386 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: show and that's unique because Law and Order generally it's 387 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: Sam Waterston who's slaying dragons and so forth. Um, And 388 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: it was really Odelia and Cameron. They were really an 389 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: incredible um asset to the ace and their voice was 390 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: particularly strong. Their voices were particularly strong in that episode. 391 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: So I'm all about girl power and and wanting to 392 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: push women forward. UM, and you know, hoping, I hoping 393 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: I get it back. UM, you know, I'm not sure. 394 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: I feel women can be very critical and competitive unfortunately. 395 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: And why do you think that is? What do you 396 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: think is is our driving force? Behind that. I don't 397 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: really know, um, except for we're much more emotional and 398 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: we're you know, we're much more I feel like we're 399 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 1: we're very sensitive and tuned in, and so I don't know, 400 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: maybe it's really just are very um, possessive and protective 401 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: over what's hours, you know, as the Mama bear, and 402 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: so I don't know, maybe it comes from that place. 403 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: But you know, I have found for me, Michelle, you know, 404 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: most of my really good friends or women, so I 405 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: don't suffer from that. You know, that's not like in 406 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: my world as much, but you know, I mean we've 407 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: all seen it, right right, yeah, No, I mean that's 408 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: why that's why we started this space is and you know, 409 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: we we um for people who have listened to the 410 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: podcast a lot. We we bonded over a book called 411 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: Women's and Humanity to Women. And while I have amazing girlfriends, 412 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the the cruelty that I've 413 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: received in my life, and I think with most women, 414 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: has been from other women. But of course there's been 415 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: men along the way, Yes, absolutely, And I think sometimes 416 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, you say that about the lipstick and the 417 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: bangs and stuff like that, and then eventually you were embraced. 418 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: I think that sometimes we have been given so many 419 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: rules growing up with well, that's just what you do. 420 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: And then we almost start pleasing each other, and even 421 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: though we all want out of the cage, we're pleasing 422 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: each other and holding each other back, whereas rather than 423 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: just being like, hey, let's pick the lock together and 424 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: all fly away free. Um, so we are kind of like, well, 425 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: but you're not supposed to do that. Well, that's not 426 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: what that's not what a police officer looks like. They 427 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't be wearing that, and you're just trying to be like, well, 428 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: I don't even know what they were saying to you, 429 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: but that's my mind goes there, you know, right, well, 430 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think, you know, look, we're all trying 431 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: so hard to get through life sometimes that we're unwilling 432 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: to pull the veil off. It's like it's not that 433 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: special and it's not that mysterious. We all actually have 434 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: so much more uncommon. And you know, I created the 435 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: Respect Project because I wanted to take that mask off, 436 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: you know, and maybe because I had been this mommy 437 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: blogger and I had really enjoyed um actually just telling 438 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: a narrative that was truthful on behalf of other people, 439 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: as opposed to portraying the legend. Like you add to 440 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: lunch and you bring your legend there, right, you put 441 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: on your manoliblogics or whatever and your lipstick and you're like, 442 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: here's my legend. My marriage is amazing, I have this, 443 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: I have that, you know, and you tell all the 444 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: good stuff. Right. You don't want to go there and 445 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: like dump all your bad stuff on people, so you 446 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: come with or good stuff, but that's part of your legend. 447 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,239 Speaker 1: You're like, hey, nice to meet your legend, as opposed to, 448 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, really telling your true story and being vulnerable. 449 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: And I think the idea of doing the Respect Project 450 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: was let's tell the truth on behalf of each other 451 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 1: in an honest, respectful way so that we can all 452 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: suffer less, you know, and you're not alone in this 453 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: journey in life. Hopefully you build that community within your 454 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: friends and your you know, loved ones and so forth, 455 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: but I think we can build that community also amongst others. 456 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: So I guess ultimately it's about like trying to make 457 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: your tone and the way you move out there publicly 458 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: um speak to other people and help help them feel 459 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: more peace about their own you know sort of journey. 460 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: So at least with that, I've tried to, you know, 461 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: make sure that you know, we're all sort of bringing 462 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: our bringing our best self forward. But like the truth 463 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: full part of ourself as most of the one that 464 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: knows all the answers, maybe the one that doesn't right. Well, 465 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: that goes back to even when you talked about when 466 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: you were writing for people right as soon as you 467 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: were more open, you know, spilling both sides of your story, 468 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: the light and the dark, that resistance falls away. And 469 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: I think that that's because we're so lucky to have 470 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: such a supportive group of female friends and then Hilaria 471 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: and I as well with one another. But those relationships 472 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: don't get forged without fruit, fansparency. You never really go 473 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: deeper or get to know someone if you don't show 474 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: the darker side. So back to the Respect project, do 475 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: you think, like, what's one of the most powerful conversations 476 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: you've had on there? Um? You know, I think about 477 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: like I did a very you know, powerful woman talk 478 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: with my friend Lisa Henson whose dad was Jim Henson, 479 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: and you know, and she's just like this powerhouse. And 480 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: our friend Robbie Runner was on it and so on. Sorry, 481 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: and um the Doberman is like in and out and 482 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: in and out. Sorry. Um. And what was really refreshing is, 483 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: you know, you're asking these powerful women to talk about like, well, 484 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: you know, what's your mantra? Like, what's the thing you know? 485 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 1: How do you do it? How do you wake up 486 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: every day? How are you gentle with yourself? How you know? 487 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: How are you strong? How do you how do you? 488 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: How are you a good leader? You're asking all these 489 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: questions to these incredibly powerful women. Um, you know, one 490 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: of them runs like a horse sanctuary. And again it 491 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: was like Lisa and Robbie and just really incredible panel 492 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: of successful, bright, you know, beautiful and just awesome, dynamic 493 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: women and they all just answered it honestly like I'm sorry, 494 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: I don't know what you mean. I'm still suffering and 495 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: trying to be a good leader. I don't know, I'm 496 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: not feeling really that great or I'm still suffering over 497 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:57,719 Speaker 1: my parents death or what have you. And suddenly you're realizing, 498 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, God, we're all just trying to get through 499 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: to you know, we're all just trying to get by. 500 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: It's not I'm not a negative person. I guess maybe 501 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm not as positive as I think I am what 502 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: I really am as a realist, and I think that 503 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, it takes a pound of flesh to get 504 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: through this life, and you know, we need to be 505 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: there for each other and build community around that as 506 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: opposed to tearing each other down, because everybody knows it's 507 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: far hard to be human being. It's also beautiful, and 508 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: i'd like we all want to skip through the meadow 509 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: like enjoy it. But you know, it's it's it's life 510 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: is life e And as David O. Russell like to say, 511 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: life is lifey and it's it's challenging, and I think, 512 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, stopping there's no mystery about it, right, It's 513 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: just it's it's a very gritty, it's almost blue collar, 514 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: this life thing, you know. Talking about it from that perspective, 515 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: I think helps one another. So in other words, there's 516 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with you if you don't feel so great, 517 00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: or you don't feel clear or supported or whatever. You know, 518 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: welcome to the club. We're all feeling it. How can 519 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: we change that? And that's what the Respect Project was 520 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: has always been about for me. How how can we 521 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: change the narrative and just make it easier for each other. Absolutely, 522 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: and that's I mean, I I've listened to a lot 523 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: of your talks and that's hopefully what we're going to 524 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: be accomplishing here to do. But I think that's a 525 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: great point to make because no matter how successful we 526 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 1: are perceived as in any career, like we all suffer 527 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: from the Robbies to the people that are just starting 528 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: out in the business, like debilitating imposter syndrome every day, 529 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: right and really like overcoming that to be able to 530 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: have these conversations because we all feel it constantly, and 531 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: like I feel every time I sign on to do 532 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: this like okay, and I think I think it really 533 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 1: is showing the light and the dark because I find 534 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: we have to get to a point where we can 535 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: hold our girlfriends when they're going through something difficult and 536 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: be a safe space for it and don't be like, oh, 537 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: don't complain. And also if they're experiencing great, ay, be 538 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: happy for them. But it is a really fair point 539 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: at the same time to acknowledge that sometimes it's really 540 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: hard for us to see something when when it's what 541 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: we want. Um, I was, you know, not in that 542 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: headspace at this point I've definitely, you know, had that 543 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: of you know, envy, jealousy, you know, feeling that I'm 544 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm not enough and people are more I mean definitely 545 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: in that situation it wasn't. But I think that is 546 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 1: what she said was a very very very common feeling 547 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: mm hmmm, and also takes us back to like, you know, 548 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: other women and the dynamic are they're not being enough 549 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: for everyone, like someone else having that experience taking away 550 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: from the ability to you to have it or to 551 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: feel comfortable with not being in the same life phase 552 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: or that moment. And um, you know, I think we 553 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: can see the same patterns applied to every very part 554 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: of social interaction because we're raised to think that if 555 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: someone else has it, we can't and so we're just 556 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: have to lead by the example and women that that 557 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: shared and just ignore the noise. Well, it's such a 558 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: it's such an important lesson to learn in life, you know, 559 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: to not covet what other people you guys are like 560 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: a coven, right, Like, let's not covet what other people 561 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: have and and realize that there's enough out there for everybody. 562 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: So just you know, stay in your lane, right like, 563 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: just you know, and I think that that creates more 564 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: mental health and well being with your who with yourself 565 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: and your you know, immediate family. And also so just 566 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: leave everybody else alone. They're not your concern, right, So, 567 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: like I do a lot. I think a lot of 568 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: ignoring over all the years of all the stuff, you 569 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you choose, choose carefully, choose wisely. 570 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: You're not going to always make the right decision, but 571 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, you try to and like stay in your lane. 572 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: Like you know, I try to stay in my lane 573 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: and just not concern myself with all the other stuff 574 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: that's out there. Oh she's fat, Oh is she did 575 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: chequate acting? Oh this so that or whatever. Oh that's 576 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: not good parenting. Oh you know, all the opinions, and 577 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: just try to just keep you know, sort of doing 578 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: the next right thing when you see the positive, the 579 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: positive in people, rather than focusing on the negative. And 580 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: I M my sound so like woo woo annoying. But 581 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: I find whenever I'm going through something difficult, if I 582 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: give and I put myself to something that feels meaningful, 583 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: um and they could be giving to yourself by the 584 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: way you can give to other people, you can give 585 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: to yourself. You can. It's just that the action of 586 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: doing something positive, it heals my mind, um and therefore 587 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: heals my body because the body has a reaction to 588 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: all of our thoughts. And I you know, I find 589 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: that the more and I've done it, but this, this 590 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: podcast has made me do it so much more on 591 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: us talking about creating this podcast, it's been over a 592 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: year now, where when I meet somebody, when I would, 593 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, even like a snarky thought, I checked myself. 594 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: Which doesn't mean that they don't happen. Okay, Like I'm 595 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: not perfect. Okay, we're all human, but I try to 596 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: switch it to be positive and check that myself. That's 597 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: that's what I mean about, you know, not coveting other 598 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: people's stuff, actually putting out into the universe. The vibration 599 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: is is that there isn't enough for you because you're 600 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: too busy coveting everybody else. Don't worry about everybody else. 601 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: Why Because there's there's a chemical reaction to that. Like 602 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: what you're saying, which is if I if I show 603 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: kindness and love and I'm giving to others, I'm gonna 604 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: attract more of that back. Well, the same thing goes 605 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: with if I don't worry about Okay, they have this, 606 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: they have that, and I just focus on my lane 607 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: and like what I'm doing, what I'm putting out there. 608 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: Suddenly you begin to see all this good and you 609 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: know fortune, you know, in all the myriad ways coming 610 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: towards you, because you're just focused on what you're doing 611 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: and putting out there. You know, like energetically you're drawing 612 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: things to yourself in a positive way as opposed to 613 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: comparing yourself to others and having like you know, the 614 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: the syndrome of like wanting wanting what everybody else has. Yeah, 615 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: like takes it back to I mean, obviously what you 616 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: think about is your reality. So just really reframing every 617 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: thought and we are training ourselves better with our thoughts 618 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: of negativity to other people. But you know, just in 619 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: general our self talk, every little negative thing that pops 620 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: up and being able to squash it. But all of 621 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 1: that said, you brought up the coven and we are 622 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: coven and Liz and I and we're all in a 623 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: great little friend coven that I am so grateful for 624 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 1: and having you on. But we do this this piece 625 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: every week on the show called Coveting in the coven 626 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 1: in this Okay covening, Okay, kevining the coven you have, 627 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: like we just want to share the light with somebody 628 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: else and and um, so we you know, we present 629 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: something that we're not super connected to, and UM, just 630 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: talk about what's making us happy. So well, I'm coveting 631 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: m My stepmother and sister went to Maraval and they 632 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: went to a spa and like they spat out, and like, 633 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: I'm coveting um doing that. Like Robbie and I talked 634 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: about it all the time. We're like we need to 635 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: go the Four Seasons. I want to go for a 636 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: week and I want to like be pampered every single 637 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: day multiple times, like the Golden Door, and be fed 638 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: well and be exercised and you know all the stuff. 639 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: And I feel like that goes hand in hand with 640 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: some of the mother's stuff, woman stuff, because I'm older 641 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: than you guys, and I've gone through menopause already, and 642 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: it's like then you've got all this, you know, the 643 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: weight stuff is like legit and so I and also 644 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: I've been working a lot um this year directing, and 645 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: so I'm like, ready, I'm coveting other people having these 646 00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: great spa experiences coverting self care right exactly, Michelle, what's yours? 647 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean mine is always skincare because I'm addicted. So 648 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: this week I have Olivia Palermo's Like you can't see 649 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: it because this is audio, but it's really pretty and 650 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: it's like this spray that you put on before like 651 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: going out, and it just like makes your skin really 652 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: like Matt and professional. And I did it today even 653 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: though I have seven hundred ring lights on. It's not 654 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: like it would make a huge difference. But it's a 655 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: really cool product and the packaging is stunning. I love that, 656 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: all right. What I'm coveting is, um, everybody knows I 657 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: wear these shiny pants, and my shiny pants are Carbon 658 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: thirty eight, and I am that person who has like 659 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: twenty yoga pants and and the carbon thirty at the 660 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: Takara leggings the high Rise because I've had a hundred children, 661 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 1: so the high Rise um in. I don't I forget 662 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: what I think it's called Takara Shine, but I'm obsessed 663 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: with them. People always, people literally stop me on the street. 664 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: You're like, what are those leggings that you're constantly wearing? 665 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: And so then these are then people ask me, because 666 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: I wear them over my heels and if that's like 667 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: a different version, it's just because I'm short, so they 668 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: like reach over the heels. But it makes me feel cozy. 669 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: They're very cute and shiny. Never keeping bell, Liz, I'm 670 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: so happy that spied you filming in my old apartment, 671 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 1: um when you're correcting law on order, because that caused 672 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 1: us to reconnect directly instead of at a holiday party 673 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: or a birthday party. And it's been such a pleasure 674 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: having you on there. And I can't wait to see 675 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: what you're doing next and to potentially be working together 676 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: and all of the things. And congratulations on that. Thank 677 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: thank you guys, Thank you so much for supporting emulay. 678 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: And actually, if you want to know anything more about it, 679 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,439 Speaker 1: you can go to the website. Um, but Hilaria, if 680 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: you want to talk more about emulay, because your wheelhouse, 681 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: you know, we can sort of sidebar about that. But 682 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,240 Speaker 1: thank you guys. This was really fun. Thank you Liz, 683 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Bye. Well, So, I feel so 684 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: fortunate that we got Liz on not only to have 685 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 1: a friend, but someone who's so brilliant and always really 686 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: acting to serve others. I think it's like, you know, 687 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 1: that is my goal in life, is that like everything 688 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: you do like connect to a bigger picture of really 689 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 1: trying to support women. And Liz is a beautiful example 690 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: of that and just being a great I'm passionate human 691 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: being and like her work with the Special Olympics, her 692 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: extreme talent, like being one of the few female directors 693 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: on Law and Order, Like there's so many things that 694 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: she does that are so deeply impressive. So and now 695 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: helping helping everyone with breast feeding. So she's that she's 696 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: the epitome of of what we all strive to be 697 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: here on which is anonymous um. You know, and you know, 698 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: these are the conversations everybody that I really love to have, 699 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: of ones that we're all like, yeah, what we it 700 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: is and we get involved, you know, we what we 701 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: really want our community to be super involved and and 702 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: talk about all these things that we're thinking and we 703 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: are not necessarily saying or we're not saying enough. So 704 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: thank you all so much for joining us this week. 705 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: Don't forget to rate, review, subscribe, share your with your friends. 706 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: We love to grow our coven and um follow us 707 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: on Instagram and we'll see you next time, which is 708 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 1: thank you, which is h