WEBVTT - How Knights Work

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff You Should Know?

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<v Speaker 1>From House Stuff Works dot Com? Hey, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, Charles W. Chuck Brian is

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<v Speaker 1>rubbing his hair out across from me. That makes this

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff you Should Know featuring Chuck rubbing his hair I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you said rubbing his hair out out? How do

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<v Speaker 1>you do that? What does that mean against your skull?

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's standing. Sorry, our colloquialism just cause problems

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes on then Yeah, you're right. Yeah, I'm good. You've

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<v Speaker 1>done vomiting four hours, dude? Yeah, like, I'm like to

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<v Speaker 1>the minute almost. I'm glad. This table is what keeps

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<v Speaker 1>us as far apart as I couldn't. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I could projectile over here. Oh I thought you might

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<v Speaker 1>get you sick. You mean, vomit on you both, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of afraid of both. Neither one will happen. I'm good,

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<v Speaker 1>So Chuck, I'm glad, you're good. Thank you. I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking all over for something to lead in with this.

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<v Speaker 1>I considered talking about the Paladin class character I created

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<v Speaker 1>when I played Dungeons and Dragons as a kid. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember his name, so it's kind of stupid, right, Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I searched news for nights and I found that in

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<v Speaker 1>Crest View, Florida, the Nights overpowered the Hobos and volleyball. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's made for a pretty good title, Nights overpower Hobos. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And that was about it. That's the best I got.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing going on with nights really these days except

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<v Speaker 1>the occasional CBS news article about somebody getting an honorary

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<v Speaker 1>titles a musician or actor. This is well, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>there's other people, but they got the press. Yeah, definitely. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's not a lot going on with nights. But

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you something. If this were or fourteenth century,

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<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't be recording a podcast, no, but we would.

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<v Speaker 1>There'd be news about nights all over the place, everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>they Yeah, so let's go back to this. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about nights. What happened to them? Where did they go,

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<v Speaker 1>where did they come from, what did they do in between?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to the meat of this. Shall we take it? Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>oh Josh, I'm gonna go ahead and start with what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on? Back then after the fall of the

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Empire. So chronologically it is a we'll start at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning as far as nights are concerned. Uh, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Western Europe. After the fall the Roman Empire.

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<v Speaker 1>It was sort of a sort of a lawless mess.

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<v Speaker 1>It was chaos of an area, no defined countries, no

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<v Speaker 1>defined governments, no laws that anyone was you know, abiding by.

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<v Speaker 1>People were still managing in existence. It was just often

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<v Speaker 1>threatened by violence. Yeah, like if I see something that

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<v Speaker 1>I want, I would take it by force, including your dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the good old days, or that keg of beer. Right. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And because of this, it was a little bit hard

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<v Speaker 1>to control. So if you were let's say Charlemagne and

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<v Speaker 1>you had a lot of this land, right, you might

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<v Speaker 1>want to do something. I might want to impose some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of restriction or a body to kind of rule

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<v Speaker 1>or take care of things. Perhaps the geopolitical system. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>without it being a government. Well, it was a government.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a form of government. It's also a form of

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<v Speaker 1>economics to feudalism, right, yeah, feudalism. Right. So Charlotte is

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<v Speaker 1>um here or Charlemagne Charlomi is m Charlot. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the original name and then he's like, oh, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>too vain. Let's call it um. Charlemagne was a Frankish king,

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<v Speaker 1>right and he um, he had just a bunch of land.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that he conquered or he just said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is mine. This land is my land, not this

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<v Speaker 1>land is your land, right uh. And he since he

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<v Speaker 1>lacked the central government, he said, hey, you're a buddy

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<v Speaker 1>of mine, you're an ally. I trust you. You're dead

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<v Speaker 1>and I fought in the war together. Um, here's some land.

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<v Speaker 1>It's yours, but you owe me big time for that land.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the basis of feudalism. One person dolls outland,

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<v Speaker 1>the king, the ruler dolls outland to the secondary ruling class, nobility,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's their land, and in return they pay for

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<v Speaker 1>the land through military service generally protection basically. And then

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<v Speaker 1>one rung down below nobility is the surf or or

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<v Speaker 1>peasant class, and they're attached to the land. They're essentially slaves.

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<v Speaker 1>They got the short end of the stick, they definitely did. So. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they pay for their land that the nobilities doled out

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<v Speaker 1>to them. So it's subdivided even further by giving their

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<v Speaker 1>the nobleman that they serve or vassal I believe they're

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<v Speaker 1>also called um food or crops or goods. Right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's how they paid for their land. But they

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<v Speaker 1>were really they didn't have much of a choice, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, the funderalism worked because Charlemagne is what He's

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<v Speaker 1>able to keep all of this land by giving it

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<v Speaker 1>to his friends, the fists, who are going to yeah

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<v Speaker 1>that's the land, right, who are going to protect it

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<v Speaker 1>against foreign invaders because it's theirs, but really it's Charlottaagne's. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the vassals, the knights, they wanted to protect

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<v Speaker 1>the serfs because they wanted to you know, the the

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<v Speaker 1>knights made most of their dough from what I could

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<v Speaker 1>see by their land ownership and farming, and we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>into other ways they made money too, but they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to protect their dudes so they could, you know, prosper well.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only that a knight could make money by serving

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<v Speaker 1>in the stead or the service of the noble person

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<v Speaker 1>that is paying them, because you had to. You you

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<v Speaker 1>paid for your land through military was either directly by

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<v Speaker 1>yourself or by paying somebody else to do it for you,

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<v Speaker 1>or by producing land and the feudal system did away

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<v Speaker 1>with um, the middle class and common the commons, common land.

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<v Speaker 1>It just did away with it. Because Charlotte Magne was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is mine and you work for me now and

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of yours, but it's really kind of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>But in return there was that social contract which um

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<v Speaker 1>led to basically trading freedom for protection, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>basis of government today. Think about it. So the Nights

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<v Speaker 1>were born out of that, right, Chuck, Yes, sir, pretty much. Um. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what it did too was with feudalism, you could it

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<v Speaker 1>gave you in a time of chaos. It gave you

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<v Speaker 1>a path like a career path almost in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that you could advance in life if you wanted to. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because part of feudalism was the land grant um was bestowed,

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<v Speaker 1>it was passed down through the family lawn, and they

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<v Speaker 1>just decided to do that. There was no over any

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<v Speaker 1>part of feudalism where it's like, well we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>set it up like this kind of evolved so a

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<v Speaker 1>landowner could pass it to his oldest son, but he

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<v Speaker 1>may have more than one son, and the other sons

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<v Speaker 1>like I want to be rich too, so I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go become a night, Yes, exactly right, and nights were not. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't born into knighthood. You were born into being

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately a a page and then later on a squire.

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<v Speaker 1>But you had to earn your knighthood for right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Um yeah, if you if your dad was a night,

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<v Speaker 1>you were automatically a page. But poor people could also

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<v Speaker 1>conceivably become pages themselves, right, Yes, apparently I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>see A Night's Tale. You didn't know, did you. It

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<v Speaker 1>was this weird anachronism years and everything, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was weird, but it was pretty cool movie. Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Bettany was in it. Um, I like that some other

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<v Speaker 1>guy who you'd recognize who was Steve the Pirate um Dodgeball. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that guy, he was in it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>this other dude and then that another guy. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>that girl r I p Heath Ledger by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, really that's a big one. Uh. So, like

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<v Speaker 1>we said, you were, you're automatically a page and basically

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<v Speaker 1>up until the age of about seven, you were just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of doated on by the women at the castle

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<v Speaker 1>taking care of exactly. And then when you became seven,

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<v Speaker 1>they moved you to another house with another lord, and

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<v Speaker 1>you were all of a sudden a page and you

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<v Speaker 1>were taught how to hunt and um, sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>beginnings of being taught how to fight. You were schooled

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<v Speaker 1>by the monks. Uh in you know school does in

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<v Speaker 1>reading and writing, not they schooled you, although they may

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<v Speaker 1>have done that, dude. Sure and uh that's basically where

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<v Speaker 1>they got their their start in this whole quest to

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<v Speaker 1>become a knight. Yeah, and you were saying that at

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<v Speaker 1>about age seven you were conscripted or given to another

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<v Speaker 1>house and usually it was a friend of the family

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<v Speaker 1>or a relative who was a knight. Um, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was about age seven. So that's where the word night

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<v Speaker 1>comes from. It's an old Anglo Saxon word nicked, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe for boy you didn't know how to pronounce. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of letters in it's being said C N

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<v Speaker 1>I H T knit yes, weird Nit that's chaucer. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>um and also chuck. I found out in researching this

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<v Speaker 1>article that the German word for night is writtter, which

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<v Speaker 1>is literally writer. So the name of the TV show

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<v Speaker 1>night Writer was redundant interesting writer writer or night night

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<v Speaker 1>and the Germans love Hasselhoff. It all makes sense, that's crazy, alright.

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<v Speaker 1>So after age seven, the kid became a page, and

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<v Speaker 1>basically the page was the little gopher for the knight's house. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to being trained, he also just basically did

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<v Speaker 1>whatever he was supposed to do. And then around the

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<v Speaker 1>time he turned fourteen, he was eligible to become an

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<v Speaker 1>esquire or squire, and his responsibilities and training became much

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<v Speaker 1>more specific. Right, Yeah, I mean you were really a

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<v Speaker 1>houseboy at this point. There's a lot of work that

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<v Speaker 1>went into like fourteen years of of work, or I

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<v Speaker 1>get the feeling. From from page to squire was a

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<v Speaker 1>little more learning, but then from squire to night was

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<v Speaker 1>when the rubber meets the road. Yes it was not

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<v Speaker 1>Rubbert or Rhodes, but you know what I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>were trails, trails. That's where the hoof met the trail.

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<v Speaker 1>How's that? So they became a squire at fourteen, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's um. They had a little ceremony, a religious ceremony

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<v Speaker 1>where you get your sword, which is pretty big deal

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, I'm sure, Um, and you basically become

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<v Speaker 1>a houseboy there. Each squire had a different job specific

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<v Speaker 1>to the castle. Can you guess which squire I would

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<v Speaker 1>have wanted to be. Well, here, let's go through him

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<v Speaker 1>and let's see if maybe I wish we could do

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<v Speaker 1>instant voting. But say in your heads, people out there listening,

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<v Speaker 1>what you think Josh would have been. You have a

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<v Speaker 1>squire of the boy and that was the personal servant.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the feeling. They were probably probably the most

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<v Speaker 1>trusted uh squire of the chamber. And they attended to

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<v Speaker 1>the rooms. That was sort of like I guess the maid.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's the worst squire job. The housekeeper, the carving.

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<v Speaker 1>The carving squire or table squire carved the meat at

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<v Speaker 1>the banquet tables, which at catering companies nowadays, the like

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<v Speaker 1>the most stoned dude is the table squire, also known

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<v Speaker 1>as the protector of the roast beef, Yes, protector of

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<v Speaker 1>the roast beef. The squire of the wines managed the

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<v Speaker 1>wine seller. They'd be a good gig. Squire of the

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<v Speaker 1>pantry took care of the food and make sure the

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<v Speaker 1>pantry was stocked with canned goods and peanut butter and

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<v Speaker 1>all the good stuff that knights loved to eat. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>Squire the arms, of course, maintained the armament and the

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<v Speaker 1>swords and all that kind of stuff in the Squire

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<v Speaker 1>of Honor assisted the Lord and ceremonies and feasts. Which

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<v Speaker 1>one are you? I think that anybody who's listened to

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<v Speaker 1>us more than once or twice could tell you. I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to be the fire of the wines, Squire

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<v Speaker 1>the wines. I'd probably be the squire of the pantry,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm into cooking and stuff well like you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would be like, hey, man, I'll slide you one

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<v Speaker 1>of these, if some of that, give me a bottle

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<v Speaker 1>of that wine, I'll give you some roast beef. Or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe i'd be the carving dude that's cool at the

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<v Speaker 1>carving station kind or if they had an omelet station,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to do that, the squire of the omelet stage.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice chuck so um. From hanging out with the at

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<v Speaker 1>these feasts and carving the roast beef and making the

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<v Speaker 1>omelets and tending the wine that the the squire was

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<v Speaker 1>also being indoctrinated into um, a higher lifestyle, learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to how to carry himself in in in situations like

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<v Speaker 1>feasts and um festivals and all this stuff. Right, they

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<v Speaker 1>learned how to be really awful and drink too much

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<v Speaker 1>to excess and pillage. Basically pretty much. It wasn't as

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, lofty as it seems I would imagine. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been um night who it? I guess we should

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<v Speaker 1>probably say has been romanticized almost entirely through literature that

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<v Speaker 1>big time actually originated in the thirteenth century, I believe it,

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<v Speaker 1>like Whillace is going on, they started to romanticize kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like Billy the Kids stories that were read by

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<v Speaker 1>the youngsters and east in the nineteenth century, the little

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<v Speaker 1>serial books. Alright, so what you're doing is you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>learning all these things, like you said, learning how to

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<v Speaker 1>be a bad person. Actually that's not true. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to offend the knights in the nights? Elton

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<v Speaker 1>John will have your head. But they also learned they

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<v Speaker 1>started to do a little bit more training in the

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<v Speaker 1>martial arts of of night dum um, like how to

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<v Speaker 1>handle and ride horses? How does strike someone over the

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<v Speaker 1>head with a heavy hammer? Yeah, with a heavy hammer.

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<v Speaker 1>They started wearing the chainmail to get used to like

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<v Speaker 1>walking around and that kind of stuff and all the

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<v Speaker 1>weight um and I looked this up, chuck um chainmail

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<v Speaker 1>and plainmail weighed about the same pounds, which seems like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, but it's about half of what the average

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<v Speaker 1>foot soldier in the U. S. Army today carries. An

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<v Speaker 1>average rifleman carries about nine pounds of gear. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>did the Knights carry stuff in addition to just know

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<v Speaker 1>they had squires? Another another duty of the squire was

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<v Speaker 1>when the night went into battle um or tournament, he right,

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<v Speaker 1>but in battle specifically he went with him, and if

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<v Speaker 1>the night fell, he was expected to to basically aid

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<v Speaker 1>and protect the night as he got up. And actually,

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<v Speaker 1>we should just since you mentioned that, we should go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and point out that you could become an instant

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<v Speaker 1>night on the battlefield. And I get the impression that

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<v Speaker 1>if you saved your night's bacon, you might have a

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<v Speaker 1>good chance of just being knighted right there on the battlefield. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>A night was bestowed with the the ability to invest

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<v Speaker 1>knighthood into a squire under circumstances like that. But for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part they followed a um a process right

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<v Speaker 1>where once you turned about twenty one, if you'd proven

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<v Speaker 1>yourself a decent square fire, if you weren't just completely

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fat from being inspired the panther, your your

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<v Speaker 1>liver given out from being the squire of the wine

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<v Speaker 1>right right, Um, you could become a night right and

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<v Speaker 1>usually this took place during an event like a larger

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<v Speaker 1>event like the Christmas or Easter feast. Yeah, a nobleman's

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<v Speaker 1>wedding or festival or something like that. Yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 1>could be bestowed knighthood by other nights, kings, nobles, clergy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get the impression that the most favorite way

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<v Speaker 1>if your father was a knight, he might do the

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<v Speaker 1>do the double tap, not the double tap of the

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<v Speaker 1>swat teams and the delta force, but the sword on

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<v Speaker 1>either side of the head tap on the shoulder. So

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<v Speaker 1>this the the squire would would sit up for a

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<v Speaker 1>night praying right and Um. When he was finally knighted,

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<v Speaker 1>he would take an oath that usually included several points right. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Defending a lady, it's a big one, speaking only the truth. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Being loyal to his lord. That's a huge part of

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<v Speaker 1>the feudal system. Um. Being devoted to the church. That

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<v Speaker 1>was also that came to be a huge part of

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<v Speaker 1>being a night with the crusades. Yeah, Um, defending the poor,

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<v Speaker 1>being charitable, defending the helpless, being brave, and then getting

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<v Speaker 1>more specific rules to at least cracked me up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, like um, fighting only one person at a time,

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<v Speaker 1>never avoiding a dangerous path out of fear. See, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have failed that one. It would have been like,

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<v Speaker 1>that path looks a lot safer to me, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>go that way. That seems like a smart thing to do,

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<v Speaker 1>not a cowardly thing. Right. That's just me. But if you,

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<v Speaker 1>if you framed it like that, you could be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't avoid that path out of fear. I avoided

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<v Speaker 1>it because out of intelligence, Yes, exactly. Um. Never taking

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<v Speaker 1>off your armor during a quest except to sleep, I

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<v Speaker 1>would that'd be such a drag. It would be. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine, Like you get back after the battle and

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<v Speaker 1>you're kicking it around the campfire and all you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do is take off your armor and relax. But

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<v Speaker 1>then the guy who does next to you takes an

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<v Speaker 1>arrow in his back and you're like, man, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>I kept my armor on while you're beating someone in

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<v Speaker 1>with the war hammer. That's what you're thinking. Um. There's

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<v Speaker 1>also this one kind of got me because I would

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<v Speaker 1>just want to go to sleep, and if I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like talking. I wouldn't want to talk. But apparently

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<v Speaker 1>one of the oaths that a night took was to um.

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<v Speaker 1>Upon returning from a quest or a journey, or a

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<v Speaker 1>battle or something, he would entertain his the person he

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<v Speaker 1>was um conscripted to with with his stories. See, i'd

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<v Speaker 1>be great at that part. You definitely would. We should.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'd just be like, I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>doing this, so I'm gonna I'm not gonna do this.

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<v Speaker 1>We should call this one why Chuck and Josh would

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<v Speaker 1>be horrible nights? I think you'd be a good night.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really sure, I'd be a good uh pantry tender.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's about it? What was it? What was the

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<v Speaker 1>last one? There? The one that uh, if he was

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<v Speaker 1>taking prisoner, he would give up arms and horse to

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<v Speaker 1>the opponent and never fight the opponent again without the

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<v Speaker 1>opponent's consent. Yeah, that's I wouldn't want to fight that

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<v Speaker 1>opponent again if they beat me down. You wouldn't want, like, See,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why i'd be a bad night. Check. Revenge makes

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<v Speaker 1>the world go around you. Who are you to buck

0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:21.040
<v Speaker 1>that trend? That's true, And once you were indoctrinated, you

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<v Speaker 1>would get your sword, like I said, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>would also finally get your armor and your horse, and

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<v Speaker 1>right away they would kind of throw you into things

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<v Speaker 1>in the form of demonstrating your abilities. Not on the battlefield, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you you kind of hop on a horse. I imagine

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<v Speaker 1>this to be like, um, you know, some like hormoned

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<v Speaker 1>up kid. It's like, yeah, man, watch this, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like starts beating up on like other little kids who

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<v Speaker 1>are still squires, you know that in front of everybody. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>except now he's got a real sword. Um. And also, chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>we should say those oaths that the night took yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>um basically made up the code of Chivalry, which was

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<v Speaker 1>established um basically because knights were the only ones who

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<v Speaker 1>were armed, who were capable of, um, you know, battling

0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:18.800
<v Speaker 1>on horseback and could just completely reek havoc any anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to. So the code of chivalry, especially defending

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<v Speaker 1>the poor in the week. They didn't kill the poor

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<v Speaker 1>in the week, right, or take their stuff or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So this code of Chivalry was intended to keep these um,

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<v Speaker 1>comparatively powerful people from just doing whatever they wanted. That

0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:40.399
<v Speaker 1>was ideal, it didn't always work out. Like knights also

0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:43.600
<v Speaker 1>generally pillaged and plundered and took whatever they wanted and

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<v Speaker 1>ignored the chivalric code, which it comes from the French

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<v Speaker 1>were josh chevalry, which means chivalry. Skills to handle a

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<v Speaker 1>horse is actually what it means. Yeah, and originally that's

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<v Speaker 1>what knights were, just like remember the samurai, they were

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<v Speaker 1>originally horsemen. Um, a lot of commonalities between these two.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually they Yeah, they both went the way of the

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<v Speaker 1>dinosaur because of gunpowder, which we'll get to. Um, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a spoiler, but you can you can also you can

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<v Speaker 1>make the case that, um, the fall of the Roman Empire, feudalism,

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<v Speaker 1>and the invention of the stirrup all allowed knighthood to develop.

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<v Speaker 1>The stirrup showed up in the eighth century, and it

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<v Speaker 1>allowed stability while you're staying on a horse and lancing somebody. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and imagine with all the armor and everything too. It

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<v Speaker 1>probably helped to get up on the horse to begin with.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was pretty much like if you could, if

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<v Speaker 1>you could fight somebody on a horse, you were a knight.

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<v Speaker 1>Before all of this tradition was dressed alongside of knighthood,

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<v Speaker 1>the mounted soldiers. Essentially what a knight was should we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about weapons? Well, yeah, I just mentioned the lance, right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The lance was basically like a spear earlier on, and

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<v Speaker 1>then later on it developed the the handguard, the in

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<v Speaker 1>a metal tip on the end of it, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, if you were on a mounted horse,

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted something long so you could engage in battle

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<v Speaker 1>without getting down from the horse. Then they had their

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<v Speaker 1>sword double edged carbon Uh what kind of carbon steel? Yeah,

0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:18.040
<v Speaker 1>but usually light on the carbon steel. Light on the

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<v Speaker 1>carbon steel, heavy on the ketchup. Uh. And they had

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<v Speaker 1>the cross guard, hilt and the pommel, which you know

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<v Speaker 1>you've all seen excalibirds, that classic looking sword, very large,

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine, pretty heavy. I never picked one up,

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<v Speaker 1>and they you know, depending on how much money you

0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:38.040
<v Speaker 1>had determined how fancy your sword was. Yeah, it could

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<v Speaker 1>have like a prayer inscribed to nature or your name. Yeah,

0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:45.960
<v Speaker 1>found returned to Josh Clark. Can't you see it? Like

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<v Speaker 1>pinned to like your your plate mail, your gauntlet. Um

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<v Speaker 1>and and uh so the sword in the lance where

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<v Speaker 1>the two main weapons, right, Yeah, you've talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>warhammer a couple of times. I imagine that's probably what

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<v Speaker 1>you would have liked. Did you look out the war

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<v Speaker 1>hammer on Google Images. Yeah, so it's like they're not

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<v Speaker 1>as big. It's not like Thor's war hammer. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a tack hammer with the um pointed like the rounded

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<v Speaker 1>curve pointed end on one side and then a hammer

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<v Speaker 1>on the other. And I just imagine like some guy

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<v Speaker 1>in in some sort of male just beating somebody's head

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<v Speaker 1>in with this. I doubt if it was pretty That's

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<v Speaker 1>what the European martial arts amounted to, Like death through

0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:31.480
<v Speaker 1>blunt instruments, Yeah, pretty much. Um, they had access which

0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:36.040
<v Speaker 1>also could slice you up. And the mace the metal Uh,

0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:37.959
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't then mace the metal ball on the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the chain. That's I think a mace isn't on

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<v Speaker 1>a chain. Morning star is on the chain. If if

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<v Speaker 1>my paladin training serves me, I think the morning Star

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<v Speaker 1>is on the chain. Mace is a pointed ball, just

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<v Speaker 1>stick stick. They thought that. They did think though that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>although they did use archers in war, the Knights kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of them thought that was a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit coward leadership. Something from a distance. Yeah, because there

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:08.600
<v Speaker 1>was no hand in hand combat. Yeah, like get down

0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:11.159
<v Speaker 1>here and find me like a man. Exactly one at

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<v Speaker 1>a time, one at a time, and that's about it.

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<v Speaker 1>On the weapons front. Uh. You would get some privileges

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<v Speaker 1>though once you became a knight that not everyone got,

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<v Speaker 1>like owning land and being called sir, and that was it.

0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:29.199
<v Speaker 1>I can you were because you own land, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it was necessarily because you're a night, but

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<v Speaker 1>because you own land, you dispense justice locally, right, right,

0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:38.960
<v Speaker 1>somebody stole someone's dog, you'd be like, I'm gonna cut

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<v Speaker 1>this dog in half and you can both have it.

0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:43.400
<v Speaker 1>And the true owner would be like, no, no, don't

0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:45.560
<v Speaker 1>cut the dog in half. He can have the whole dog,

0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:50.120
<v Speaker 1>and you'd be like, it's your dog. Was justice, right, yeah,

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and then you just beat the other guy's head in

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<v Speaker 1>with the warhammer. You could pack heat and church. You

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:58.679
<v Speaker 1>were allowed to carry your sword to church. Apparently not

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:00.880
<v Speaker 1>everyone could do that. No, you would get a seat

0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:04.600
<v Speaker 1>at the high table at feasts with the lords and royals,

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<v Speaker 1>and you could wear your armor in battle because you

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:09.679
<v Speaker 1>could afford it, right, And you also were expected to

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:15.440
<v Speaker 1>lead soldiers into battle like an officer today. Um, chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about wartime for a second. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that shaped the European nights where the crusades, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know a ton about the crusades, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do probably a full podcast on that at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, But just just very briefly, the first crusade

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<v Speaker 1>took place in ten ninety six, and it was based

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<v Speaker 1>on a sermon by the Pope in that basically said,

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<v Speaker 1>the Muslims have Jerusalem and we need to go get

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<v Speaker 1>it back. And I think the Europeans are considered to

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 1>have one or been successful in the first crusade. And

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>then the Muslims over overran Jerusalem again. Uh, in their

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<v Speaker 1>in their view, took it back because it was an

0:24:55.680 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 1>equally holy land, right. Um. After that, so for the

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:03.080
<v Speaker 1>next two years, there were crusades, crusades, crusades, I think

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:06.880
<v Speaker 1>they were. There were several, yes, right, it's more than two,

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:11.840
<v Speaker 1>there definitely, And um. Over time, orders of knights developed

0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 1>out of these crusades. Uh. And they also this is

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:20.160
<v Speaker 1>this is the time when religiousness was attached to knighthood,

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:24.880
<v Speaker 1>so sweating an oath to the church, um, being a Christian,

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:29.160
<v Speaker 1>defender of Christianity, all of this became attached to knighthood

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:31.919
<v Speaker 1>about this time, and It was about this time also,

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 1>not coincidentally, that knighthood became romanticized as well, so that

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:40.440
<v Speaker 1>they had popular support. Yeah. This they were pious. They

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:44.399
<v Speaker 1>were defending your freedom, exactly, defending God. So the So

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:48.879
<v Speaker 1>if I think the stirrup, feudalism and the Crusades are

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:52.880
<v Speaker 1>what really shaped knighthood in in Europe, I would say,

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:56.200
<v Speaker 1>isn't it crazy how Christians and Muslims all this time,

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 1>all this time had been going at each other. I

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>don't think that changed any times. So that's why we

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 1>have to do one on crustates. Yeah, Joshulet's talk about peacetime.

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay you want to. Yeah, during peacetime they would have

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:12.200
<v Speaker 1>tournaments much like you would see at medieval times restaurants

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 1>these days. Have you ever been to one of those? No?

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I haven't either, you know. In fact, the only time.

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 1>The thing I know about him is from the Cable

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Guy movie same here. Actually, yeah, Genny Garfolo is the

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 1>the waitress, the medieval waitress. I don't remember that. She

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>was really funny. She had what was her line about

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 1>they asked for a fork or something, and she said

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 1>there were no forks in medieval times, so there are

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 1>no forks at medieval times and so Matthew Broderick had

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to eat with his hands. It sounds familiar, that's because

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>you've seen the movie. Uh. During peace time, Josh would

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:48.679
<v Speaker 1>have these tournaments and it was a big It was

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 1>like the NFL football of the day. It was like

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the NFL and World Cup put together. Imagine how boring

0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:59.720
<v Speaker 1>your life would be during this time. And then all

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:02.400
<v Speaker 1>of a there's some knights being in the tar out

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>of each other in the castle keep. Yeah, that's huge,

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>and melee, that's like life changing. You'd probably tell your

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 1>grandchildren about that and they'd be like, shut up, We've

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>heard this story eight hundred times. Just go ahead and die.

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned Malee's two you're an ancient human being. Have

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 1>you ever seen um the Mr Show little clip where

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:33.439
<v Speaker 1>it's like m questions, questions, questions. Modern man can think

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:38.360
<v Speaker 1>of three questions instead in like a medieval village, so classic.

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I briefly mentioned the word melee, and that was actually

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:46.439
<v Speaker 1>a real thing. It wasn't just like a free for all. Well,

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>it was a free for all, but that's where the

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>word came from. The knights would would gather out in

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:54.359
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the keep, and sort of reenact what

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 1>a real battle would be like. And judge or Marshall

0:27:57.640 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>would say let it begin, and you would start fight

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.640
<v Speaker 1>each other one at a time until that was only

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 1>one of you left standing, right, And that's why it

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 1>was popular blood sport. Sure, and these things were for

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:13.639
<v Speaker 1>for spectators. You could also make some cash off of

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 1>them if you won, especially in the joust. If you

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:21.120
<v Speaker 1>want to joust, you got the other guy's armor extremely

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>expensive and horse extremely horses armor, perhaps, sure, and um,

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>the guy would be like, well, here you go. I'm

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:31.240
<v Speaker 1>a knight, so you're a knight too, and you just

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.919
<v Speaker 1>beat me in the joust. Here's my stuff. And the

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>guy who was taking it would say, you know, I

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 1>have a really good idea. I've got some extra armor

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm never going to use here unless you are virtually naked.

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Let me just sell it back to you. But that's

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 1>my armor. And it'd be like t s hell, you

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>have to buy it back because I'll kill you if

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't. But so if you did that a few times,

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 1>you just made a bunch of money in one tournament.

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Unless you're losing. You can also lose your fortune if

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>you're a bad jouster, I would be I would try

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>to improve my jousting skills. For sure. You could also

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>lose your life if you were King Henry the Second

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>of France. Yeah he died, but he got a spear

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>through the little visor right like right through the eyehole

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 1>and during a joust. Josh, it's hard to say you

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>would charge each other on a horse. Obviously you've probably

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>seen this before with your joust out. What I did

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>not know is what you're trying to do. I always

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 1>thought you were just trying to knock them off. You're

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 1>trying to break your lance on their body. Well, you

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>won if you knocked him off, but you they You

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>could also win through points by breaking a lance or

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>just even making contact. But I'm under the impression you've

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 1>got more points if you broke your lance. Well, and

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>you get more points according to which body part you

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>break it on, like if you break it on a

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>dude's head, I would say that's probably more points. Although

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>back then maybe that was in poor formed, maybe that

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 1>was penalty penalized. Who notes, I don't know. This is

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 1>a culture where again the more scial arts are consist

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>of beating other people. A death of blunt instruments and

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>you were talking about making a ton of money. That

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>was a famous night called Ulrich von Liechtenstein. And he's

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the one who Heath Ledger. Heath Ledger's character im Posts

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>pretended to be yes yes in that movie. And he's

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 1>a legendary knight who apparently was pretty good at jousting.

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>He actually wrote an autobiography. Really. Yeah, it's in the

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>source in Middle English. Yeah, that must have been a

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>fun read. I think it's translated into Late English Old

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>English with an eight oldie. Yeah. Emily's parents used to

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 1>live on in one of those neighborhoods where it's all

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, the English, Nottingham Force. Their street was Crown Point,

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>but we called it Crowny Point because it was obviously

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>at ease. And I always call evandale Estates e oldie

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>avandala Estates. Did you know there is no word ye

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 1>the y e still pronounced the really, so when I

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 1>say ye old, I'm just did moron. There's no such thing. Yeah,

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>but again, Chuck, I think one of the things that

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 1>we've done with this show is proved that if you

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 1>can get your point across, that's correct. Okay, gotcha, let's

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 1>talk about armor. Okay, chain mail, Well, first it had leather, yeah,

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>which is barbed from the Romans. Yes, and leather was

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 1>pretty good for like a sword swipe. Yeah, it protected

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 1>against cutting blows, but if you were going to be

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>running through, you're in trouble exactly. And the same with chainmail.

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Chainmail was was good and would protect you even more

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 1>from a slice, but still a big joust or a

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>or atlance jousting you puncturing you a big sword, your

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>your chain mail probably not gonna work out that well either.

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>And it says in this article that that was also

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 1>barbed from the Romans. Untrue. Chain mail was developed by

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Celts in Eastern Europe as far back as the third

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 1>time tree. Does it say that in here? No? Okay? Uh?

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>And then if you had some serious dough you would

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 1>get the plate armor, which uh, if you've ever seen

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 1>like the nights standing in the corner, not the real Yeah,

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the suit of armor, that's exactly what it is. Um.

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 1>They protected you a lot more from a puncture wound,

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 1>but still wasn't And where you're really vulnerable was in

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the gussets where like in your armpits and the places

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 1>where your joints would meet where you had chainmail underneath.

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>That's what I was gonna ask you. They were chainmail

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and the plated armor. So does that equal what a

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 1>modern day soldier would I read that chainmail and plate

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>mail weighed about the same fortounds, So then I guess

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 1>if you were wearing both a be eighty to a

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>hundred pounds of armor. Right. And apparently they could move

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>around pretty pretty well in these It's not like in

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>the funny movies when you see them like on the

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>ground writing about because they can't get up. Apparently you

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>can move, Okay, not like if you were wearing nothing

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>at all, because that's when you can really move when

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>you're naked, right, But you could get up off the ground.

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 1>You could mount a horse, but that doesn't do anything

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 1>if you got a gun pointing out you, does it? No,

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't. And actually, um, I can't remember the show,

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 1>but it's one of the shows where one ancient warrior

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>battles another ancient warrior and it was called Battles of

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>the Ancient Warriors something. There's like five of them in there. Yeah,

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>there's a few. Um there there was I saw a

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>pirate versus Night right, I would say a night would

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>win because they had gunpowder. Yes, that's exactly right. If

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 1>that pirate had just had his sword, he would have

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 1>been totally screwed, but he had gunpowder. And this is

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 1>a really good point that um, gunpowder made Night's obsolete. Actually,

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:53.959
<v Speaker 1>and by the way, in the Pirate versus Night battle

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 1>at the end, the pirate gets the Night down, pulls

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 1>his visor up and shoots him in the faces. It's

0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>really graphic. Did they reenact these Yeah, yeah, they battle.

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I got to see that. Um. But the the gunpowder

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 1>brought about the end of the military martial knights because

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 1>number one, there was no more like you couldn't make

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 1>armor that was that was going to defend against firearms.

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 1>And that was a huge hallmark of characteristic of a

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 1>night the ability to wear armor and fight on a horse.

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Not everybody could do that, And that same specialization became

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>obsolete by gunpowder because I can just shoot you with

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the gun. You go ahead and study for fourteen years

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>your little sword, play and protect the wine, and I'll

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 1>just shoot you in the face because I'm a pirate.

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.839
<v Speaker 1>So that was the end of knighthood, much the same

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 1>way that firearms brought about the end of the Samurai

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 1>in Japan as well. They were just sort of like

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Asian Nights in a way. Yes, yes, uh, chuck, yes,

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:55.360
<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about a few orders of Nights

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Nights Templar. Do you know how many emails we would

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>get if we just hadn't talked about the Knights Templar.

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:03.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sick of the Knights Templar. I am too,

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:08.400
<v Speaker 1>this whole Dan Brown stuff. Yes, there was a whole

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 1>group of Knights, and they were associated with the devil,

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>but they actually have like this plundered this treasure. I

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:21.240
<v Speaker 1>hate it, it's so played out. So that's the Knights Templar.

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>That was also of the Knights Hospitallers and uh also

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>called the Knights of St John of the Hospital, and

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 1>they cared for the sick pilgrims, which is what they

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>do today right in the Templar and the Knights of

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:38.320
<v Speaker 1>St John of the Hospital Um both and Teutonic Knights

0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 1>all developed to protect pilgrims on the way to the

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Holy Land during the Crusades. Remember we said the Crusades

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:49.359
<v Speaker 1>really shaped Nights Um Order of the Garter. Yeah. King

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Edward the Third of England established this and the hundreds,

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>and they were an elite group of knights that are

0:35:56.560 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 1>still around today and their royalty and a point by

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>the Sovereign of Great Britain. Yes, And originally there were

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 1>um women in the Order of the Garter. Uh. And

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>that went away for many centuries, and then in seven

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 1>Queen Elizabeth said we're gonna get the gals back in

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 1>this exactly. And um Order of the Garter weren't the

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:21.799
<v Speaker 1>only female knights, right, Yeah, what was the other one?

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 1>There was a bunch um from let's see thirty fourteen

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:31.719
<v Speaker 1>there were women in the Order of the Garter. Um,

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 1>in the Order of the Star of India. There was

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 1>another order of knights, didn't we Oh no, that's the

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Order of the Eastern Star. God do we get those confused? Um, well,

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:46.800
<v Speaker 1>they're pretty close the In eighteen sixty one, a woman

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:50.240
<v Speaker 1>with one of the coolest names of all time, nawab

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Begam It sounds like Barbara Walters is pronouncing nawab Begham,

0:36:55.280 --> 0:37:00.919
<v Speaker 1>was inducted in eighteen sixty one. Um Order of the Hatchet. Yes,

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 1>sounded like it sounds like probably the meanest female knights

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>to be the Order of the Hatchet. And they protected

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the h They defended the Spanish down with Tortosa from

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the moors. And so they said, you know what, you

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:15.840
<v Speaker 1>did a pretty good job. We're gonna make you the

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Order of the Hatchet. And unfortunately that original group was

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 1>the only Order of the Hatchet. They didn't survive beyond that.

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>And then, um, the Order of St. John's of the

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Hospital also had female knights known as nuns. Warrior nuns,

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 1>warrior nuns. You don't see that in the movies. And

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 1>then there wasn't a lot going on with knights for

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:40.760
<v Speaker 1>a couple of centuries until a little guy with stubby

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 1>fingers stopped doing cocaine and straightened up his life. A

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>man named Elton John was knighted in as we like

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.959
<v Speaker 1>to say here in Atlanta. Sometime Atlanta resident or part

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:57.239
<v Speaker 1>time Atlanta resident. Boy when he moved here. That just Southerners. Yeah,

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:00.439
<v Speaker 1>he's the toast of the town, wouldn't he still? I'd

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<v Speaker 1>never see him around? I don't know, Uh, Paul McCartney,

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<v Speaker 1>Mick Jagger, Bono? Are we calling him Bono? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>not his name? I thought it was Bono? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>one of the two. I'm just kidding. Bono is is

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<v Speaker 1>I think what's his real name, Paul Houston. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's right, is it? I think so. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they called him imagined him within a real name, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>named Paul Bono. Vox was what he was his a

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<v Speaker 1>full name and it means a good voice. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a little full of himself back when he was a

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<v Speaker 1>kid in Ireland. In Ireland. Uh and um, the Edge,

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<v Speaker 1>what's his name, Tommy Edge? He has, he has a

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<v Speaker 1>real name to He wasn't born in the Edge. He

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 1>was married as the Edge though. Yeah, I remember when

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 1>he got married. I don't know if like in the ceremony,

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 1>but in all of the spread it was like the

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<v Speaker 1>Edge and Mrs Edge. I think his name is Dave something.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wonder if those guys ever felt silly now

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.800
<v Speaker 1>it's um Dave Coolier that's his name, is it. I

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:06.880
<v Speaker 1>wonder if they ever feel silly like sixty called the

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Edge and Edge. I thought of that when I was eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of cool back then. That would be

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<v Speaker 1>the equivalent of those stupid Jersey Shore kids with all

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<v Speaker 1>their dumb names. Yeah, I can't believe that there. I

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 1>can't believe the Jersey Shore can't believe that in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand ten, The Jersey Shore is one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>popular shows on television. I've never seen it. Just just

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<v Speaker 1>take like a minute and really watch a clip on YouTube.

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 1>You'll get everything you need to know. They won't be

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<v Speaker 1>night at anytime soon. Uh? And who else? Well you

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<v Speaker 1>get if you're a female n you're a dame, Yeah,

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 1>like Dame Judy Dench. You want to hear some more

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 1>surprising ones? Oh yeah, Steven Spielberg really, Bill Gates, Scottie Pippen, No, no,

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>he's he's an honorary member of the Eastern Star Bill Gates.

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Ted Kennedy got one right before he died. Rudy Giuliani

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<v Speaker 1>really who? By the way, I learned UM has a

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<v Speaker 1>Blackwater esque security company. Now that's how he's making his money.

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:12.879
<v Speaker 1>They're fighting the drug war down in Mexico. Yeah. Wow,

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that, but yeah, Pale Colin Powell really.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Mugabe, the president Zimbabwe whose knighthood was rescinded in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand eight just being a horrible dictator. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Mussolini was also a night starting in n and

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 1>his rescinded in ninety and then Bob Hope. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. Honorary night. Wow, so we could actually be nights.

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 1>I thought you had to be uh, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>from the not American. If you're American, you can be knighted.

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 1>But you're not titled sir h So when it wasn't

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>sir Bob Hope, No, just Bob, It's yeah Bob, just

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Bob or what he wanted. Anyway, Chuck, this is a

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:05.879
<v Speaker 1>long one. Do we have any listener mail anything like that? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do a quick announcement for our trivia event, and

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 1>then we have a few Facebook questions. Well, um, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess let's get the trivia announcement. Music started mm hmm Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>On October two thousand ten, eight d there will be

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 1>an event unlike any other except for one that we

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<v Speaker 1>held in New York in June. This is a quick version.

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<v Speaker 1>October six pm, doors open. We finally have a time, dude. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was likely surmised at five Seasons Brewery. We're having

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:41.839
<v Speaker 1>our trivia event. Doors opened at six West Side. Yes,

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 1>where what Mariette and Howell Mill. It's like right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Um from six six pm. The doors opened seven pm.

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<v Speaker 1>We're starting trivia John Hodgeman, UM, the editor of The Onion,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Randazzo and the creator of Aquitine Hunger Force day

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 1>willis we'll all be playing with us, playing trip with us. Yeah. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be awesome. Anybody who wants to come can play.

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I believe um scout mob right, They're going to have

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:14.240
<v Speaker 1>like some sort of coupon or like half off drink

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 1>something they can get jumped on the bandwagon here and there.

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:22.400
<v Speaker 1>We're promoting each other. And that's going down October the

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<v Speaker 1>night before at the Drunken Unicorn on Punts the Daily

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:30.800
<v Speaker 1>on Avenue UM the kind of unofficial house band for stuff.

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>You should know that Henry Clay People will be playing

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:36.439
<v Speaker 1>starting at what time it's a it's a later show. UM.

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I would get there by like you know, nine. They

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:41.719
<v Speaker 1>probably won't gone about eleven, so hopefully John and Joe

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>will be there too. Hopefully we can't promise that. Two

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 1>huge days in the Southeast October twelve Tuesday, Henry Clay People,

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<v Speaker 1>October Wednesday, our trip of It Thursday. Who knows, will

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:55.799
<v Speaker 1>all be in Guadalajara by then. I just saw the

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:58.759
<v Speaker 1>guys too this past weekend. Cool it came through town,

0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 1>not playing a gig, but we cooked out and played

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 1>music and it's all that was awesome. It's good time.

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Did you use your guitar picks? No? I didn't, Actually,

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I just kind of watched while they played. Um, how

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 1>many kid these can we get to? I don't know.

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:14.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what you were doing. This. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook stuff. So we have a Facebook page, Facebook dot

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 1>com slash stuff. You should know. By the way, Yes,

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 1>please like it because that that is good for us

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 1>around here. Yeah, get a penny for every person that

0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 1>likes us. I was gonna say. Nicol Daniel s says,

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:37.280
<v Speaker 1>why doesn't Jerry ever talk? Daniel, Jerry talks all the time.

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.359
<v Speaker 1>You have no idea endlessly, she just doesn't do it.

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 1>On the show, Aaron Hagen says, do you me and

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:47.439
<v Speaker 1>Emily ever hang out together? Yes, they do, Wayne, Chuck

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 1>and I hang out together, but we have forbade them

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:52.400
<v Speaker 1>from seeing each other unless we don't want them talking

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 1>or coming up with anything to use against this. Right.

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Emily loves Umi? Well, Umi loves Emily really. Yeah, that's good.

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Uh like this you would tell me? Actually? She thinks

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I like real jerk. Yeah, you can't stand uh. Katina

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 1>Franklin Sweetie says, what was your best Halloween costume ever?

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I was a Harry Krishna one year and that went

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>over pretty well. I like shave my head and had

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the ponytail and little tambourine and literature and everything, real literature.

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Did you get your hands on some hardy Christina litterus? No,

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I just printed some mountain What about you? Um? When

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I was in elementary school, my mom made an upside

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 1>down clown costumes. So from my shoulders where the legs

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 1>sticking up in between my legs, my actual legs was

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:39.280
<v Speaker 1>the head, and then it looked like a clown walking

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:43.239
<v Speaker 1>on his hands. It was pretty awesome. Actually, that is awesome. Uh.

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Kristin Keeler says, you cover a lot of topics that

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:48.239
<v Speaker 1>are outside your area of expertise. What you personally know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about? I know a lot about music and

0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 1>movies and filmmaking and camping and hiking and personal defenses

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 1>him excellence. What about you? I didn't hear the questions

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:11.959
<v Speaker 1>what do you know a lot about? Personally expertise wise? Oh? Weird? Um? Um?

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:14.759
<v Speaker 1>You know a lot about politics, I guess, but I

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:16.239
<v Speaker 1>mean how is that? What do you know a lot

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:20.239
<v Speaker 1>of expertise? What am I an expert in? I guess

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:25.879
<v Speaker 1>throwing stars, throwing stars the Joe Moore says, I saw

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Pavement last night in Central Park. It was truly memorable. Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your best concert experience ever? At a top

0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 1>five Wow, public Enemy and at the Masquerade unbelievable cross

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 1>cultural experience. The London Philharmonic did baetom It's night that

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<v Speaker 1>Carnegie Hall, the full choir, Oh de joy, unbelievable um

0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 1>to Lallapaloos experience is the first one of Jane's addiction

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:57.920
<v Speaker 1>that was immense, and then the second one the Beastie

0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:01.920
<v Speaker 1>plays was just out of control, so good. Yeah, Bonnie

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:05.399
<v Speaker 1>Prince Billy last year, which I know you hate and

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<v Speaker 1>leave on helm I sa'll leave on Helming last year

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 1>and I was just He's the was the drummer and

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 1>part time singer for the band my favorite group, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>the band, the band? Yeah? I got you? What about you?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your favorite stage show I ever saw in my

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<v Speaker 1>entire life? Was Peter Gabriel in the I guess early

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<v Speaker 1>nineties that would have been good. Um, I guess all

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<v Speaker 1>around best show I ever saw would have been alternate

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<v Speaker 1>down in Florida when I was a little brave kid.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, let's see, there has to be at least

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<v Speaker 1>one other. Did you have a pacifier? Yes, they had

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey Mouse on it. Yeah. Yeah. I was definitely one

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<v Speaker 1>of those grave kids. I was so glad. I'm just

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:50.279
<v Speaker 1>old enough to have been too old for the rave culture. Yeah. Yeah,

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you just saw the big leg jeans and the past

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<v Speaker 1>fires and I just didn't get it. Oh and probably

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<v Speaker 1>my first concert ever, Haul of Notes, with Until Tuesday

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:03.719
<v Speaker 1>opening form Poor Till Tuesday got Buddolf stage. Really yeah. Um,

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:05.720
<v Speaker 1>But Hall of Notes came out and they were backed

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 1>by g Smith and started out band including the guy

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 1>who wears like the floor length mink coats and plays

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:14.320
<v Speaker 1>the sacks like they were the band, and they played everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was a good one too. I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I like concerts. I'm gonna start going to him. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Amy Man is still terrific. Sure, and she's buddies with

0:47:22.400 --> 0:47:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Paul Tompkins. I did not know, I believe, so awesome

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<v Speaker 1>part of the whole Largo scene. Is there anything else

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