1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,559 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:37,719 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. 4 00:00:37,799 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 2: Joined by the newest member of the Patriots Hall Fame, 5 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 2: Mike Rainbow. 6 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:42,439 Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 7 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 8 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 3: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian 9 00:00:47,918 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 3: coy Or. 10 00:00:48,278 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 4: Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but number 11 00:00:50,918 --> 00:00:53,119 Speaker 4: one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison. 12 00:00:53,399 --> 00:00:55,679 Speaker 5: Good to be home, Good to see you guys. 13 00:00:55,759 --> 00:00:58,479 Speaker 1: Search for Pats from the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 14 00:01:00,799 --> 00:01:03,239 Speaker 3: Joe, just take us through your day. What was it 15 00:01:03,279 --> 00:01:05,279 Speaker 3: like for your first NFL start? What was it like 16 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,958 Speaker 3: your touchdown passed, you get your ear worked on what 17 00:01:09,079 --> 00:01:12,879 Speaker 3: happened in that situation? And then also your celebratory I 18 00:01:12,919 --> 00:01:14,958 Speaker 3: don't know if we call it handshake with AVP and 19 00:01:14,999 --> 00:01:15,719 Speaker 3: what that was like. 20 00:01:15,878 --> 00:01:17,639 Speaker 5: Just he had a smile on your face. So what 21 00:01:17,679 --> 00:01:18,318 Speaker 5: was it like for you? 22 00:01:18,479 --> 00:01:21,678 Speaker 6: Yeah, today was you know, what's a regular day for me? 23 00:01:22,158 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 6: I woke up around atis, went back home from the 24 00:01:26,399 --> 00:01:30,238 Speaker 6: hotel and you know, I Usually I wake up up 25 00:01:30,239 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 6: in the morning, I walked my dog, but today my 26 00:01:32,919 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 6: dad and mom's here, So today my dad walked the dogs, 27 00:01:36,519 --> 00:01:38,439 Speaker 6: and you know, everybody else is getting dressed. 28 00:01:38,479 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 5: So I don't eat on mornings like this. 29 00:01:41,519 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 6: It's pretty hard for me to eat, so I didn't 30 00:01:44,399 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 6: eat anything at all, so I'm ready to eat. But 31 00:01:47,279 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 6: other than that, man, it was a regular day to me. 32 00:01:50,559 --> 00:01:54,319 Speaker 6: You know, felt felt calm, felt cool. Everybody had my 33 00:01:54,359 --> 00:01:57,799 Speaker 6: back today, just like every other quarterback that comes through here, 34 00:01:57,839 --> 00:02:00,519 Speaker 6: you know, their team have draps back, and today I 35 00:02:00,559 --> 00:02:04,119 Speaker 6: had my back. So oh my ear man, I do 36 00:02:04,239 --> 00:02:07,479 Speaker 6: not know what happened. It was kind of shocking to me. 37 00:02:07,519 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 6: When everybody said I was bleeding. I was like, you know, bleeding, 38 00:02:11,399 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 6: and then it was like, it's your ear rings and 39 00:02:13,159 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 6: I was like, nah, my ear ring's not in, and 40 00:02:15,399 --> 00:02:18,319 Speaker 6: then it was just top of my ear from a scap. 41 00:02:20,839 --> 00:02:23,958 Speaker 5: Given the magnitude of this game, Joe, what would you 42 00:02:23,999 --> 00:02:26,279 Speaker 5: say to someone, maybe a Patriots fan who was a 43 00:02:26,279 --> 00:02:28,678 Speaker 5: little bit disenchanted with the idea that you guys didn't 44 00:02:28,719 --> 00:02:30,038 Speaker 5: lose today to get the number. 45 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:34,439 Speaker 6: I mean, we gotta handle how we handle our program 46 00:02:34,478 --> 00:02:36,638 Speaker 6: as it is right now. We can't think too far 47 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,599 Speaker 6: in the future. I can't think too far in the past, 48 00:02:38,679 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 6: you know. So we just been exactly where our feet 49 00:02:41,239 --> 00:02:44,159 Speaker 6: is right now as a program, like an ordinary organization, 50 00:02:44,239 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 6: you know, just being here right now in the moment. 51 00:02:45,999 --> 00:02:48,159 Speaker 6: So you know, thinking about a pick right now is 52 00:02:48,279 --> 00:02:50,439 Speaker 6: way out of our hands. So if they're gonna give 53 00:02:50,479 --> 00:02:52,358 Speaker 6: it to us, there are if they do, they do it, 54 00:02:52,439 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 6: they don't. They don't right now today the main focus 55 00:02:55,038 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 6: is to win. 56 00:02:58,239 --> 00:03:00,599 Speaker 4: Joe seemed to be so exuberant during the course of 57 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 4: that obviously, the backflip after the touchdown run, the celebration 58 00:03:03,758 --> 00:03:06,439 Speaker 4: after the touchdown pass when he took the final snap 59 00:03:06,679 --> 00:03:08,159 Speaker 4: and you dropped to the knee, put the ball to 60 00:03:08,199 --> 00:03:10,918 Speaker 4: your left, or what went through your mind in that moment. 61 00:03:11,279 --> 00:03:14,719 Speaker 6: Now, I'm gonna be honest with y'all. Still to this 62 00:03:14,719 --> 00:03:17,759 Speaker 6: moment right now, none of this feel real. Just because 63 00:03:17,799 --> 00:03:20,078 Speaker 6: I did scouting the whole year. You know, I didn't 64 00:03:20,079 --> 00:03:22,439 Speaker 6: know when my moment was gonna come. You know, everybody 65 00:03:22,479 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 6: around the building just kept saying the same thing, just 66 00:03:24,758 --> 00:03:27,599 Speaker 6: be ready for your moment, and I didn't know it 67 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 6: was gonna come, you know, today, Like I said all week, 68 00:03:29,879 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 6: you know, if the opportunity to presents itself, then I'll 69 00:03:32,239 --> 00:03:35,039 Speaker 6: be ready. So none of this today still feels real, 70 00:03:36,039 --> 00:03:39,279 Speaker 6: and even right now it still doesn't. So I'm just 71 00:03:39,279 --> 00:03:41,399 Speaker 6: trying to enjoy it as much as I can. But 72 00:03:41,839 --> 00:03:44,799 Speaker 6: you know, at the same time, you know, just be 73 00:03:44,799 --> 00:03:47,439 Speaker 6: be cheerful with my brothers, and you know, cherish, cherish 74 00:03:47,479 --> 00:03:49,439 Speaker 6: the moments that I have right now before it's all over. 75 00:03:50,239 --> 00:03:54,479 Speaker 7: White priests in the front, Joe, how significant is this 76 00:03:54,599 --> 00:03:58,159 Speaker 7: performance for your development as an NFL quarterback? 77 00:03:59,079 --> 00:03:59,199 Speaker 5: Man? 78 00:03:59,239 --> 00:04:02,079 Speaker 6: I feel like today was a great step in the 79 00:04:02,119 --> 00:04:06,439 Speaker 6: right direction for my development, my future itself, just because 80 00:04:06,479 --> 00:04:10,439 Speaker 6: you know, you never know, the full length of acurate 81 00:04:10,519 --> 00:04:12,959 Speaker 6: average career in the NFL is three years. So you know, 82 00:04:13,079 --> 00:04:15,079 Speaker 6: just try to take every rep that I get, even 83 00:04:15,159 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 6: if it's in practice or in the game. You know, 84 00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:18,958 Speaker 6: just try to take a serious as much as I can. 85 00:04:19,479 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 6: So whatever it takes to do whatever I gotta do, 86 00:04:22,959 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 6: I do it. 87 00:04:23,399 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 8: So all segel, Joe, building on what Mike just talked 88 00:04:27,479 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 8: about in terms of thinking about where you were during 89 00:04:30,239 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 8: the summer to this point, twenty two twenty nine for 90 00:04:33,359 --> 00:04:36,398 Speaker 8: forty one yards a touchdown pass for rushing touchdown, what 91 00:04:36,519 --> 00:04:38,438 Speaker 8: do you tribute to be able to get to this 92 00:04:38,558 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 8: level in your first NFL action, And who do you 93 00:04:41,558 --> 00:04:43,519 Speaker 8: tribute to, if anybody. 94 00:04:43,599 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 6: I would say just the consistency we had as an 95 00:04:46,599 --> 00:04:50,038 Speaker 6: offense as a quarterback room itself, like coach AVP and 96 00:04:50,078 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 6: coach TC coach Bean McAdoo evan, like they made sure 97 00:04:53,879 --> 00:04:55,439 Speaker 6: that as a quarterback we. 98 00:04:55,438 --> 00:04:56,118 Speaker 5: Would spot on. 99 00:04:57,039 --> 00:05:00,399 Speaker 6: That goes from watching film all week, like quarterbacks come 100 00:05:00,438 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 6: in if we had a game next week, we'll be 101 00:05:02,599 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 6: back in here tomorrow, you know what I mean. Rookies 102 00:05:05,039 --> 00:05:07,399 Speaker 6: got a lift at seven and we will be getting 103 00:05:07,399 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 6: back to it. So, you know, just a whole point 104 00:05:10,198 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 6: of the whole part of you know, just how we preparate, 105 00:05:13,519 --> 00:05:17,238 Speaker 6: the way that we preparate, the preparation we have for AVP, 106 00:05:17,479 --> 00:05:19,078 Speaker 6: the way that you know they get us right, so 107 00:05:19,558 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 6: you know, just going through all that with them, you know, 108 00:05:22,039 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 6: that's just the blessing. 109 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,998 Speaker 5: Who do I contribute that to? I would just say everyone, 110 00:05:29,119 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 5: everyone in the building. Know, everyone have a choice. 111 00:05:32,438 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 6: You either gonna wake up in the morning and you're 112 00:05:34,039 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 6: gonna come here, You're gonna drive here in the cold, 113 00:05:36,198 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 6: or you're gonna wake up in the morning and you're 114 00:05:37,719 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 6: gonna be like, man, I ain't going to work and 115 00:05:39,639 --> 00:05:41,278 Speaker 6: then now you're just letting the whole team down. 116 00:05:41,318 --> 00:05:42,958 Speaker 5: So I contribute that to everyone. 117 00:05:45,719 --> 00:05:47,959 Speaker 6: And Joe, at what point did you find out that 118 00:05:47,999 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 6: you were gonna play today? 119 00:05:49,039 --> 00:05:51,399 Speaker 1: And what did you What do you think you proved today? 120 00:05:51,678 --> 00:05:52,439 Speaker 5: After kickoff? 121 00:05:53,759 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 6: After the gickoff, they was like, hey, you're going there 122 00:05:56,359 --> 00:05:59,399 Speaker 6: next series and I was like, all right, let's do it. 123 00:05:59,999 --> 00:06:02,558 Speaker 5: And what's your last question? What do you think you proved? 124 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 6: I don't think I proved anything to nobody. I think 125 00:06:05,599 --> 00:06:08,399 Speaker 6: I proved it to myself. Like it's always been just 126 00:06:08,438 --> 00:06:11,199 Speaker 6: showing that I'm able to be here, able to play 127 00:06:11,198 --> 00:06:14,639 Speaker 6: this game, and just showing myself that you know it's 128 00:06:14,678 --> 00:06:18,519 Speaker 6: me and without God, I am nothing, So therefore I'll 129 00:06:18,558 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 6: put everything in him first. 130 00:06:23,599 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 5: Real quick? 131 00:06:24,759 --> 00:06:26,398 Speaker 9: What kind of dogs you gotta waiting for you to 132 00:06:26,438 --> 00:06:27,439 Speaker 9: celebrate this performance? 133 00:06:27,479 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 5: With? No type of what dogs? Oh? Got two hit 134 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:31,439 Speaker 5: bulls at home? Very nice? 135 00:06:31,919 --> 00:06:35,439 Speaker 9: And you mentioned that you're still grapping with this. It 136 00:06:35,479 --> 00:06:38,399 Speaker 9: doesn't feel real yet. With that in mind, how long 137 00:06:38,519 --> 00:06:41,119 Speaker 9: were you waiting to hit that backflip in your mind? 138 00:06:41,198 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 9: How like how long we're waiting for in an LFL game? 139 00:06:46,119 --> 00:06:47,758 Speaker 5: Man, I've been waiting to hit the bath flip in 140 00:06:47,799 --> 00:06:48,758 Speaker 5: the game period. 141 00:06:48,879 --> 00:06:54,118 Speaker 6: For at least I want to say whenever USC the 142 00:06:54,239 --> 00:06:57,079 Speaker 6: USC player hit the backflip in the zone. I've been 143 00:06:57,159 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 6: wanting to do it ever since that moment. But two 144 00:07:00,239 --> 00:07:03,559 Speaker 6: years prior to that moment, like just I was like, man, 145 00:07:03,639 --> 00:07:06,318 Speaker 6: I can do it. Nobody really expect me to do it, 146 00:07:06,359 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 6: So when I do it, I feel like it's gonna 147 00:07:07,958 --> 00:07:10,038 Speaker 6: blow up on media. So when I got there in 148 00:07:10,039 --> 00:07:12,599 Speaker 6: the zone, I was like, man, nobody's beside me. I 149 00:07:12,599 --> 00:07:14,359 Speaker 6: think this is my moment, so I just you know, 150 00:07:14,839 --> 00:07:18,039 Speaker 6: trust it. You know, I did backflips in my past before, 151 00:07:18,239 --> 00:07:19,319 Speaker 6: especially in Fall camps. 152 00:07:19,399 --> 00:07:21,559 Speaker 5: I was like, man, it's time. It's the perfect time 153 00:07:21,599 --> 00:07:21,879 Speaker 5: for it. 154 00:07:23,439 --> 00:07:25,439 Speaker 6: Joe, you mentioned this week how being on the show 155 00:07:25,439 --> 00:07:27,038 Speaker 6: team gave you some chances to try some things that 156 00:07:27,078 --> 00:07:28,919 Speaker 6: you hadn't done before. Were there any points in this 157 00:07:28,958 --> 00:07:30,718 Speaker 6: game where that kind of came up and try something 158 00:07:30,839 --> 00:07:32,039 Speaker 6: you've ever done in practice? 159 00:07:32,119 --> 00:07:34,039 Speaker 5: Man through a dangerous throat today. 160 00:07:34,159 --> 00:07:36,479 Speaker 6: Nah, it wasn't as dangerous because you scoring from it, 161 00:07:36,559 --> 00:07:38,799 Speaker 6: but just throwing back crossfield as a quarterback, you know, 162 00:07:38,879 --> 00:07:41,279 Speaker 6: this is very difficult to do, and a lot of 163 00:07:41,359 --> 00:07:43,799 Speaker 6: quarterbacks and a lot of coaches tell you don't do 164 00:07:43,879 --> 00:07:46,319 Speaker 6: that just because you never know what it's gonna lead to, 165 00:07:46,759 --> 00:07:49,359 Speaker 6: but also you know, just that's just bad quarterback play, 166 00:07:49,719 --> 00:07:51,719 Speaker 6: just throwing it back across your body into you know, 167 00:07:51,799 --> 00:07:53,919 Speaker 6: multiple people, multiple coverage, or. 168 00:07:54,239 --> 00:07:57,039 Speaker 5: Seeing it got open like I did, and trusting them. 169 00:07:57,479 --> 00:08:00,319 Speaker 6: I feel like that actually showed up because you know 170 00:08:00,559 --> 00:08:04,158 Speaker 6: KBOUDI actually be on scout team with me. Sometimes you 171 00:08:04,199 --> 00:08:06,479 Speaker 6: get his extra reps like that, and we done made 172 00:08:06,479 --> 00:08:07,479 Speaker 6: players like that before. 173 00:08:07,599 --> 00:08:09,999 Speaker 5: So just seeing it come to reality it was very fun. 174 00:08:10,999 --> 00:08:13,958 Speaker 7: Sure, back to the backflip. 175 00:08:14,399 --> 00:08:16,919 Speaker 5: Had you done a backflip before you said you had? 176 00:08:17,279 --> 00:08:19,839 Speaker 7: Had you done them with a helmet, pads, spikes, the 177 00:08:19,879 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 7: whole bit? 178 00:08:20,479 --> 00:08:23,759 Speaker 5: Absolutely, yes, sir, I have. Did you ever not stick 179 00:08:23,799 --> 00:08:25,159 Speaker 5: it trying it? For those times? 180 00:08:25,239 --> 00:08:27,759 Speaker 6: I always stick to my backflip, So I don't know, man, 181 00:08:28,439 --> 00:08:30,719 Speaker 6: I haven't. The only time I have not stuck one 182 00:08:30,879 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 6: was when I was six and I fell on my head. 183 00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:39,879 Speaker 5: I had a hunk, So so Joe. 184 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:42,799 Speaker 7: After this performance and then coupled with what Drake has 185 00:08:43,359 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 7: performed all season, there's two promising young quarterbacks from the 186 00:08:46,599 --> 00:08:49,519 Speaker 7: Patriots curious what your relationship is like with Drake and 187 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,359 Speaker 7: maybe how you guys might pair up this offseason and 188 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:54,799 Speaker 7: try to keep pushing forward together. 189 00:08:54,958 --> 00:08:57,759 Speaker 6: Well, Drake, my god, man, I don't know if there's 190 00:08:57,799 --> 00:09:01,279 Speaker 6: any other any other person that's building that like that 191 00:09:01,399 --> 00:09:02,598 Speaker 6: as cool as him. 192 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:03,799 Speaker 5: You know, he's cool. 193 00:09:03,839 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 6: He don't really you don't see Drake get like. You 194 00:09:07,439 --> 00:09:09,399 Speaker 6: don't see him get mad, you don't see him get 195 00:09:09,519 --> 00:09:11,759 Speaker 6: riled up. You know, he's just cool, come and collected. 196 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 6: And as a quarterback, that's. 197 00:09:13,159 --> 00:09:15,999 Speaker 5: How you need to be. So Drake man, you know, 198 00:09:16,199 --> 00:09:17,879 Speaker 5: just learning from him. 199 00:09:18,079 --> 00:09:20,279 Speaker 6: You know, it's cool to learn from everybody, especially as 200 00:09:20,279 --> 00:09:21,879 Speaker 6: a quarterback, just because. 201 00:09:22,079 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 5: You don't want to be the smartest person in the room. 202 00:09:24,159 --> 00:09:27,399 Speaker 6: And I feel like that's something that I took advantage of, 203 00:09:27,599 --> 00:09:29,399 Speaker 6: you know, just not being the smartest person in the room, 204 00:09:29,479 --> 00:09:32,799 Speaker 6: hearing other courquarterbacks out, hearing to Kobe Speed, hearing Drake Speed, 205 00:09:32,879 --> 00:09:35,399 Speaker 6: and then just actually just putting it together and add 206 00:09:35,439 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 6: into my own game, you know. And every time I talk, 207 00:09:38,239 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 6: they be willing to listen and figure out what I 208 00:09:39,999 --> 00:09:43,479 Speaker 6: wanted to say. So it's been great, man, no problem. 209 00:09:43,479 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 5: Thank you all. 210 00:09:43,879 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: God Bless Patriots playbook Join John Rook as he brings 211 00:09:47,359 --> 00:09:50,039 Speaker 1: you all the latest Patriots Talk, an expert commentary direct 212 00:09:50,079 --> 00:09:53,359 Speaker 1: from Patriots HQ. The show features interviews with New England 213 00:09:53,359 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: and Opponent Beat writers that bring you a unique media 214 00:09:55,759 --> 00:09:57,279 Speaker 1: view of the state of the team, but where. 215 00:09:57,159 --> 00:10:00,159 Speaker 2: The Patriots are concerned. 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