1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: I like baked beans cold from the tin, said genuinely. 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: People think this is ridiculous. I love baked beans cold 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: from the tin, perfect with a fok horse spoon. 4 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: Spoon spoon so you can skew the last ones. 5 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Yes, but what about this the tomashowy sauce. 6 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 3: Oh you're right. 7 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: Good mornings, were and welcome to the Now Dunks podcast 8 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network, a fine network. It's Thursday, May sixteenth, 9 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. I'm jay E Skeiths here in the 10 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: Classic Factory, and alongside me, as always task. 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: Millists podcast listeners, it's for you. 12 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: Next to him, it's the Bearded one Atasha, Hot Boy, 13 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: Trick Kirby, Hey hey yo, and over Yonder making the 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: magic happen. 15 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: Super producer JD. 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: Hello, there he is here. We are shout out to 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: everybody on YouTube. We love to see you hit the 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: light button and subscribe. Before we get into the games, 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: I would like to thank the fifty to sixty people 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: yesterday who reminded me why I say Alec Burke's name 21 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: like Alc Bergs. It's a Seinfeld reference. It was always 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: a Seinfeld reference. Here's a screen grab from that episode 23 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: where they see Alec Berg. He's got a good John 24 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: Houseman name, says Jerry alc Berg. Mister big, that's where 25 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: Alec Burke's comes. 26 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: From, right, it's a John Houseman name. 27 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: Oh, Jesus, that's like a guy that won like a 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 2: Best Supporting Actor in the seventies. He's like a British guy. 29 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: I think he was a lawyer in some famous film 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: in the seventies and a real proper look, mister Burg. 31 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: I think that's the reference. 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so a character he plays his named Alec Berg. 33 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have another fifty or sixty people write in 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: and tell me who John Housman is now in that reference. 35 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 4: Well, it sounds to me like John Housman is a 36 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 4: character actor, yes, and Alec Berg was a character actor, right, Alec. 37 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: Yes. What's funny is there's an actual Alec Berg who 38 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: was a writer on Seinfeld as well, and it's like 39 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 2: a comedy writer. But yes, the character in the show 40 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: for sure. 41 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 4: Well yeah, so surely in the writer's room they were 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 4: joking about this man's name. But he's saying it's a 43 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 4: John Housman name. It's like, I say, you have a 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 4: great character actor name. 45 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: Right, Oh, yeah, I guess so, yeah, yeah, maybe, but 46 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 2: I thought also maybe a character that John Housman played 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 2: said names like that, like you know. 48 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: Stab, like that type of thing. Maybe. Who knows. 49 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: We started with this, but I couldn't believe the response 50 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: so many people jumping on that Seinfeld reference. Even our 51 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: guy John Schumann slided into the d m S who 52 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: was listening to the show a little bit later to 53 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: let us know Seinfeld reference. That is why we say 54 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: alec Berger. 55 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: Alec Berg also worked on Curb Enthusiasms. According to Colly Mos. 56 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was how Hausman spoke. Okay, tee, okay, okay, great, 57 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: that's the show. Everybody takes me. 58 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: Okay, let's get into the games from last night. We 59 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: had two of them, which could be the last time 60 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: we see two NBA playoff games in this postseason on 61 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: the same day. We'll get into this guy. 62 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: So I hope they don't put conference finals games on 63 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: the same day. 64 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: We don't want that. We could have two games on Sunday, 65 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: but who knows, who knows. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. 66 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: Let's go last night. Luca, he stopped complaining, he just 67 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: played basketball, put a smile on his face. Just focused 68 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: on basketball, guys, and it worked. Thirty one point triple 69 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: double as the MAVs topped the Thunder in that pivotal 70 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: Game five. Dallas leads the series three to two. This 71 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: was a really dominant performance from Luca and the entire 72 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: MAVs team to take control of this series. 73 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it started with Luca for sure. He wiped 74 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: himself clean of Game four. Well, he said, he spit 75 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: it cleaned after the game, he said, I just I spit. 76 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: After Game four, I texted my man Alex Cursik. Is 77 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: that a Serbian superstition? He said, yes, so I consider 78 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: it probably a Slovenian superstition as well. I would consider 79 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: is this is like an alec Berg mystery. I would 80 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: consider it a former superstition of all the Yugoslav countries, 81 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: all the former Yugoslavs probably all do a little when 82 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: they want to get rid of something special. Yeah. Yeah, 83 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: I've been there before as a Greek as well. I've 84 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: been spin on many times. It's a superstition as well. Anyway, 85 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: the point is he came in and was amazing, and 86 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: like you said, he did not complain at all. In fact, 87 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: when he made a bad pass to Josh Green in 88 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: the corner. He said, that's my bad. When he got 89 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: a foul, he said, that's my that's my no complaining 90 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: at all, and he came He came in and it 91 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: looked awesome. There was that one play where it looked 92 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: like he got fouled by a three point line. He 93 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: had a one hand on the ball and put it 94 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: up and hit it. It was like a trick shot. 95 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: And then he went to the one side of the 96 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: floor and made like a hook shot pass to the 97 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: other side of the floor. He did a give and 98 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: goal with Kyrie, gave it to him, got it back 99 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: through an alleube. He threw it like a seventy foot allue. 100 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 3: Oh, that was sick. 101 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: From one side. He was good everywhere. Seven of eleven 102 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: on twos, five of eleven on threes, didn't have to 103 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: shoot too many free throws, just got through the free 104 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: throw line three times. Everything was so good from this 105 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: guy on both and then he blocked Shay with a 106 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: minute left. Yep and looked at him, obviously because those 107 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: guys have a rivalry. But Luca, one of the best 108 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: in the game, just played like one of the best 109 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: of the game. 110 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: Finally, Yep, thirty one points, eleven assists, ten boards and 111 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: almost zero complaints. It's honestly zero, and they kept bringing 112 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: up on the broadcast, but it was fair to bring 113 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: it up. You said that one where he did get 114 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 2: feld and he hit the circus shot. He turned around 115 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: for a st He turned around, he thought about it, 116 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: but and then he just went right back. You could 117 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: tell it was in his mind, like, Okay, I gotta 118 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: cut that crap out. It's having an effect on me 119 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: and probably our team and obviously a good resulting Game 120 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: five here. 121 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, we all remember the lebron Stone face game against 122 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 4: the Celtics from way back when this was Luca's serious face. No, 123 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 4: I mean it was a little snelly face. He was 124 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: smiling at times. He was definitely still a little demonstrative, 125 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 4: but I thought he was incredible and this game afterwards 126 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 4: he said, sometimes I forget this is a thing I love, 127 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 4: don't we all? 128 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: Man? 129 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 4: You get lost in the sauce sometimes, and he definitely 130 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 4: did in game four. But he was locked in in 131 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 4: game five and the thunder really didn't have any answers 132 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 4: for him. He threw four alley oops last night. It 133 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 4: was the dunk and Dallas Mavericks. They got nine dunks. 134 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 4: You mentioned the sixty five foot of Derek Jones Junior. 135 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: I loved the play where Derek Jones Junior blocks a 136 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 4: chet holmgrind three pointer run out on the other end 137 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 4: for a dunk there in the fourth quarter. 138 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: That was really nice. 139 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 4: I just thought, very good performance by the Mavericks after 140 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 4: the way they blew it in the fourth quarter. Dallas 141 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: has probably been the better team in this series, at 142 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 4: least the last two games, probably since Game one, if 143 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 4: we're being honest. 144 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: But they blew it in Game. 145 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 4: Four because they couldn't stop foling and they couldn't get 146 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 4: stops in the fourth quarter. And this one, the MAVs 147 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 4: never trailed after being down eight seven. They led the 148 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 4: last forty four minutes of the game. And this is 149 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 4: the fewest points that Oklahoma City has scored all season. 150 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 4: Mavericks were good on both ends last night. 151 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Derek Jones Junior sort of the secondary 152 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: in this one for Dallas. It had been PJ. Washington 153 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 2: for a good chunk of this series. But this was 154 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: Derek Jones Junior's game playoff career. Hid nineteen points, He 155 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: had fifteen first half points. He was perfect six for six. 156 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: He had hit three threes. Now that's part of the 157 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: Thunders defensive game plan. Obviously, it's like we got at 158 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: least somebody open. We're gonna leave him. They had left Washington, 159 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: like I said before, but he took advantage. He had 160 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: the dunks. I mean, we know he's an athletic freak. 161 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: But for him to hit those three threes in the 162 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: first half and again stay perfect there through the first 163 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: twenty four minutes, that was they needed that. You know, 164 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: you always need somebody's got to help out the star. 165 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: We've seen it time and time again in this postseason 166 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 2: where guys go for fifty or they have big games, 167 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: the superstars, but you need somebody else to chip in. 168 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: And okay, see didn't get it last night, Shaye, I 169 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: thought was pretty damn good. Nobody jumped on board. Nobody 170 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: really helped him out in the scoring department. But Derek 171 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: Jones Junior was a huge part for the mass. 172 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: Yeah hopefully, okay, see he gets Jalen Williams to be 173 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: Jaylen Williams the next game. But he's had a couple 174 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: of bad games in a row in terms of score. 175 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: But Derek Joe Junior clearly was PJ Washington In this game, 176 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: he took over that role. He had ten points in 177 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: the first quarter. He hit his first six shots. As 178 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: you said, he hit another shot that wasn't included, that 179 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: wasn't counted because there was another foul going on in 180 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: the play and nineteen overall is a lot. And as 181 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: you mentioned Trey, the one that really sealed it was 182 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: a block on chet Holmgren at the three point line 183 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: with two minutes left. That was nice to get out 184 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: there and then just sprint and then Luca found him 185 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: for an lup and there you go. That was basically 186 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: the game. It was awesome. They had to leave him open. 187 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: And on the other side, Dallas left lou Door open 188 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: and that didn't work out for loud Door. He can 189 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: he's They've been doing it the whole series. Sometimes he 190 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: hit threes, sometimes he doesn't, and okay, so he just 191 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: couldn't hit threes in this game. That was obviously a problem. 192 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: They were abysmal from deep. They shot twenty five percent 193 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 2: from three on forty attempts. And look credit to the MAVs, 194 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: like a lot of guys like sprint out to that 195 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: line and you saw a lot of those attempts, and 196 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: now some of them were open, and they probably should 197 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: have hit some of them, and maybe they will in 198 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: Game six, but like enough that they run out and 199 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: then the guy's got to put the ball on the ground, 200 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: sort of a move over to a side, and then 201 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: maybe they're a little less out of rhythm there and 202 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: they were missing them. But yeah, nobody could hit Isaiah 203 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: Joe started, Trey. You've been calling for it, wondering at 204 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: least if they would take Gideo to the starting lineup. 205 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: Dagnelt did Isaia Jo did not really come through. 206 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, too wrong. 207 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 4: Got to start, Yeah, Cason Wallace been saying it since December. 208 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 4: The guy should start. He's a better player on both 209 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 4: ends than Isaiah Joe. But the space was there for Shay. 210 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: He got the dunk right away in the first quarter. 211 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 4: Isaiah Joe got a look and then made his first 212 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 4: three and they mas like his next six, I think, 213 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 4: before finally hitting one a little bit later. But Dallas 214 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 4: is just packing the paint on SGA. They're at the 215 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 4: boxes and elbows every time. Shay, we'll get to the 216 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 4: mid range. He can hit some shots, but Dallas did 217 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 4: a good job of defending without fouling. Not a ton 218 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 4: of free throws for Shay last night. I thought Jalen 219 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 4: Williams did a good job driving the ball, but he 220 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 4: wants to drive the ball every time he catches it. 221 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 3: He's not really a catching suit player. 222 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 4: If he does shoot it off the catch, it's off 223 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 4: a pump fake and a step to the So that's 224 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 4: the thing with Dallas. They can pack the paint because 225 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 4: they're not worried about anybody else shooting. Chat Holmgren's not 226 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 4: shooting the ball very well, very slow release. Lou Dort 227 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 4: takes forever to shoot threes as well, so they can 228 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 4: just wait in the lane and try and challenge. Obviously, 229 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 4: the Mavericks or sorry the Thunder weren't able to make 230 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: Dallas pay ten for forty. Then the other big concern 231 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 4: that Okac had coming into the playoffs was rebounding, and 232 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 4: they got crushed on the glass forty six to thirty three. 233 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 4: It was twelve to five and second chance points for 234 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 4: the Mavericks. I also thought Gafford Lively and then PJ. 235 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 4: Washington and Derek Jones Junior as like the bigger forwards, 236 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 4: they were monstrous inside. 237 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: They completely shut down the paint for ok See. 238 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: Oh they were huge, Yeah, they were. And that's what 239 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: okay See will be looking for in the offseason. Somebody 240 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: big to play beside Chet, just a large person because 241 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: the other Jalen Williams probably makes the most sense in 242 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: terms of height off the bench, but Case Wallace is awesome. 243 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: Isaiah Joe obviously spreads the floor. So they're looking for somebody, anybody, 244 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: and Josh Giddy ain't that guy. I wonder if he 245 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: goes into his offseason changes his shot for him, because 246 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: it's he starts with the ball is shooting him on 247 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: the outside and then it curves in and it just 248 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: ain't pretty. But that would have to be a new, 249 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: entirely new shot form and he will. Obviously he hit 250 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: shots in this game, as he does, but he wasn't 251 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: super aggressive in this game. And you're right, both Lively 252 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: and Gefford, we're so good at just blocking off the paint. 253 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: The guy on the perimeter has to get in front 254 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: of Shae or get in front of whoever Jalen Williams, 255 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: and then the guy behind him is ready, all very 256 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: very ready, and then the passes go out to the 257 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: shooters and it just wasn't wasn't shooting. It wasn't happening 258 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: out there. 259 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 2: Jay Dubb the wing, Jalen Williams. He missed all three 260 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: of his threes, and he has not scored more than 261 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 2: twenty points in any game in this series. He finished 262 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: with twelve in Game five, very quiet twelve. This is 263 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: a guy that shot really well from three in the 264 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 2: regular season. I think it was like forty two percent. 265 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: They need Shae in the Thunder, need him to have 266 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: a big game six, I think for them to obviously 267 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 2: try and extend this to seven. 268 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: Now. 269 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 2: He was a little banged up, I know at times 270 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 2: in the series two, but yeah, he's got a somebody's 271 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: got to be the secondary guy here because Shay, what 272 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 2: thirty points. I mean, he did it all. It wasn't incredible, 273 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: but he was getting a little bit more of the 274 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: rim at times because things had opened up there with 275 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: Isaiah Joe. But he did his part. Nobody else helped out. 276 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: But the mass man they have they were right, Tray, 277 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: you said it. They've completely outplayed them over the course 278 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: of this series, and that's why they have a three 279 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: two lead here. But the six lob dunks, I mean, 280 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: those are demoralizing too. Like, especially when you're throwing from 281 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: seventy feet and you can't even see that one camrangle 282 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: where you can't even see I guess was it Lively 283 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: on that one? Yeah, we're like, who's he throwing it to? 284 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: Suddenly he comes screaming in. Yeah, Luca was just on 285 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: one last night. Felt good. I thought he was more aggressive. 286 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: We had talked about that, like he did it once. 287 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: There was one time where they had the high pick 288 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 2: and roll and then he was waiting for Dort to 289 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: catch up. You're like, what are you doing? But a 290 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: lot of the other times there it was just sort 291 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: of him, you know, less even getting a screen there. 292 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: It was just letting him operate. And when he's got 293 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: the three going, he's just become so dangerous with that 294 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: little step to the side left and he was banging 295 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: that home. Awesome game from Luca. We'll see. Do you 296 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 2: like the chances of okay, see to get this to 297 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: seven or do you think Dallas takes care of business 298 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: there on Saturday? This game's on Saturday. 299 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows. I would like to see a supporter, 300 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: as you said for Shay, who was awesome. You know, 301 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: he was going into the bigs there was that lefty 302 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: finish on Gafford, who's doing as much as he could, 303 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: but somebody to splash from shots. Really, lou Dort was 304 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: is free to shoot and that is clear. And the airballs. 305 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if that rolls into game six, but 306 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: he shot an air ball late in this game a 307 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: couple of minutes left. 308 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 3: Yes, was about three feet short. 309 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: It was very short, very Dort short. Yeah, Dort, good 310 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: one because they're clearly leaving. They were leaving two starters 311 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: open in lou Dort and Josh Katy, and they can't 312 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: leave Isaia Joepen. So this guy, if it's the same lineup, 313 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: he's going to continue to have a wide open three 314 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: point shot. That's what killed him. Killed him at the end. 315 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: And even Mark Dagnat said, we got to go to 316 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: the hack of Ively as they tried before earlier in 317 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: this series. He hit both Lively looking good out there 318 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: and the one time they hacked him. And I said, 319 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: what is the best term the word too if if 320 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: a guy is able to go to the line after 321 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: a hacker and and do it. Some great suggestions from 322 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: our fans crack a hack hack attack best one. I 323 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: think no hackbacks so. 324 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: The idea the term for you, you try the hack 325 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: of strategy, but it doesn't work in backfires. 326 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, the guy who overcomes it. No hack backs 327 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: from Michael Ive and that was a nice one. That 328 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: was a nice that's good. And then yeah, don't black 329 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: shot blocked blacks Now that doesn't work. Nobody blocked it 330 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: right after that. Yeah, I was, I was trying to 331 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: get a hack anyways, but the block against Shade this game, 332 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: they did just poorly for okay, see with the air 333 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: ball and then Lively went to the line and then 334 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: the Dotch block. So it just feels like, now we're 335 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: getting close to the semifinals here, where Tatum's making his way, 336 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: Jokic is making his way, maybe a brunt send, and 337 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: then maybe you know, it's Luca Orshe in the fourth one. 338 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: So we've got four of the best here going towards 339 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: the semifinals, which is fun. 340 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: Yokich versus Luca could be very fun Western Conference Finals, 341 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: But we still got these series going on here. You 342 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: never know if we get some game sevens and then 343 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: it's anything can happen situation. Any other thoughts on this one? 344 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 4: TK Kyrie Irving only had twelve points, but I did 345 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 4: feel like he was a little bit more aggressive looking 346 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 4: for his shot. He passed up an easy floater he 347 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 4: could have had in the fourth quarter to try and 348 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: throw an oop two. I believe it was Lively. Lively 349 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 4: was covered, could have been a shot by Kyrie, but 350 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 4: I thought he was more in scoring mode than just 351 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: distribution mode. But one thing I didn't see coming Jaden 352 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 4: Hardy minutes. Yeah, I played fifteen minutes last night. Didn't 353 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 4: play terribly. He only scored two points, took five shots, 354 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 4: one for you know he's gonna get it up. But basically, 355 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 4: the Mavericks needed another ball handler to play alongside Kyrie Irving, 356 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: Tim Hardaway, Junior as and a guy who puts the 357 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: ball on the floor make plays. 358 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: So when they're. 359 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 4: Doubling Kyrie, he's able to get the ball and it 360 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 4: ends up in Jayden Hardy's hands and he'll try and 361 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 4: make something happen. 362 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 3: I thought he at least gave him a tiny bit 363 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: of a boost. 364 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, they said, Dante xem you're out of the lineup. 365 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: Jane Hardy, you're in the ge League ignite graduate and 366 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: he set up both bigs set to set. He gave 367 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: Lively one. He gave Gafford one and then Jason Kidd 368 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: playing with the Kyrie Jade Hardy Tim Hardaway lineup the 369 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: trio there. That's questionable and it didn't work out, but 370 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: they yanked it. They said no, and it didn't work 371 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: during the regular season either, But yeah, he was out there. 372 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: It didn't always work out, but he was that. He 373 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: was a handler who could penetrate and the passes were 374 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: good again setting up both bigs at Gafford in the 375 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: first and then Lively in the second, those big. 376 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 3: It gave the team a little boost. 377 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: I sometimes think that has an effect on the other 378 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: guys on the bench or the entire roster, where this 379 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: guy that's out of the rotation isn't playing all that much, 380 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,239 Speaker 2: especially a young guy gets an opportunity, even if it's 381 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 2: a small one, plays hard, you know, gets a big play, 382 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: good assist here there, and it sort of it gets 383 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: everyone going a little bit more And definitely worked for Kid. 384 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting it. 385 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: Whoa wet's see how this goes, But yeah, he played 386 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: fifteen in the end, did he wow? 387 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 388 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: For him. 389 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 4: I also thought you mentioned the lou Dort miss Tim 390 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 4: Hardaway Junior had a pretty ugly possession in the first half. 391 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 4: Didn't shoot an air ball in his first three point 392 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 4: attempt because it hit above the square on the glass. 393 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 4: Somehow Dallas gets the offensive rebound because nobody's anticipating the 394 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 4: ball ricocheting that high off the glass, gets another look 395 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 4: and he does airball, this one from the corner. 396 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 3: That was pretty ugly. 397 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 4: But then guess what next time he touched the ball, 398 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 4: shot it and a swish. 399 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 400 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was having flashbacks to our Tuesday night pickup 401 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 2: run where that one guy shot the ball at the 402 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: top of the backboard. You somehow got it. It's like, 403 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: oh my god. It was one of those nights where 404 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 2: the ball was not belting by teams away. It was 405 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 2: very frustrating. Maybe okay, see felt the same, but that 406 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: was Yeah. We had some crazy shot attempts in this game. Yeah, 407 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: name misses, but these teams are playing hard. I love 408 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: this series. I hope we get a seven game series 409 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: because I just love watching these two teams compete. Yeah, 410 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: and I can't wait to see if if they stick 411 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: with Isaiah Joe, do you go back to Giddy? 412 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: Do you try Wallace? 413 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: Do you even try Wiggins? Like what will what will 414 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 2: they do here in a must win situation in Dallas 415 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: on Saturday. 416 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously, the Minnesota Timberwolves were an incredible defense to 417 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: start Round two against the Denver Nuggets. But I think 418 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: this has been the best defensive series in Round two, 419 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: both teams teams going at it because the scores are 420 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: very low on both teams. So I don't think it's 421 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: just bad offense. I think it's just incredible playing hard. Yeah, 422 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: the MAVs play hard from the corners. They just everybody. 423 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: Josh Green is flying in for offensive rebounds. PJ. Washington, 424 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: who was captain corner in Game four. There's got to 425 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: be some sort of nicknames. Iron Eagle gave PJ. Washington 426 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: the captain corner. But these guys, all of them are 427 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: all captain corners. There's a MAVs corners think something there anyway? 428 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: Corner? 429 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: Well, you know, the Chevy Tracks takes corners exceptionally well, 430 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: said no one ever. 431 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 4: Motor Trend one of the finest handle laden crossover vehicles 432 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 4: I heard three years running. 433 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 3: Anything else on this series. 434 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: Here, We'll just wait for Saturday see if Shay and 435 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: really I do believe Jadub can give us a game seven. 436 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: They're gonna have to be pretty special there because this 437 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks defense is locked in and Luca, you know, 438 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 2: if he doesn't complain again, plays with a smile. 439 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 3: He's dangerous. 440 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: It really worked all right the first game last night, 441 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: Tatum scored twenty five. The real story is probably Al Horford, 442 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: which I know we'll talk about. But the Celtics beat 443 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: the Calves one, thirteen to ninety eight. They are into 444 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 2: their third consecutive Eastern Conference Finals. Now the Calves extremely shorthanded. 445 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: Still no Donovan Mitchell in this game. Has he played 446 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: his last game with the Calves. It's very possible. No 447 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: Jared Allen once again. That's what eight straight games he 448 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 2: missed with that rib injury. And then no Carousel vert either. 449 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: They put up a fight once again. They were in 450 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: it for a good three quarters and change. But Celtics 451 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: a little too much, and like I said, Al Horford 452 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 2: was was the start. Twenty two points, fifteen boards, five 453 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 2: assists and six threes from the thirty eight year old, 454 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: well almost thirty eight year old Al Horford. 455 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: A week away, yeah, oh no, no, no, seventeen days Okay, 456 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm looking at something here which tells me 457 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: it's seventeen days. 458 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 4: Interesting, so he might get to celebrate during the NBA 459 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 4: Finals very much. 460 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: Yes, wow, that could be a big week for Al Horford, 461 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 3: a birthday and perhaps an NBA championship. I think it 462 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 3: makes you think. 463 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: I think it's before just before the finals would start 464 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: this year. 465 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 3: Okay, final start June sixth. 466 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on, let's get the date. It's June thirty. Wow. 467 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 3: I don't know. 468 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 4: I remember when Chris Paul had a birthday late in 469 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 4: the season. He was like, awesome, and then he turned whatever, 470 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 4: thirty eight or thirty nine, and then he completely fell off. 471 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 3: So be careful. 472 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is weird because I thought at the beginning 473 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 4: of the game, too much Al Horford, and then at 474 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 4: the end of the game perfect amount of Al. In 475 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 4: the second quarter, there were five possessions that the Celtics had, 476 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 4: and four of them ended an Al Horford three pointer. 477 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 4: He was one for four and I was like, uh, 478 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 4: why are so many possessions ending with Al Horford here? 479 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 4: But then in the fourth eight points, nine rebounds, four 480 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 4: of those offensive, and then two assists as well. He 481 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 4: made so many hustle plays that the save he had 482 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 4: in the corner in the first half. 483 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: Made the condensed highlights of the NBA dot Com place 484 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 3: of this game. 485 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 4: Guys say to the ball in the corner and they're like, hey, 486 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 4: we got to keep this one day because look at 487 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 4: him running around out there. 488 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 3: It was awesome though. It was really good. 489 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 4: I thought the Celtics in general had a pretty good 490 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 4: game plan coming into this one, because we knew Cleveland 491 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 4: wanted to take as many three pointers as possible, so 492 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 4: the Celtics just ran them off the line the entire night. 493 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 4: Only thirty one total attempts from three for Cleveland. Twelve 494 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 4: of those came in the second half. Boston made nineteen threes. 495 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 4: That's basically the game right there. On the other end, 496 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 4: they put Darius Garland into action almost every single time. 497 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 4: They would either force a help on the pick and roll, 498 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 4: whether it's a double, or they would beat him off 499 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 4: the dribble, get into the lane, draw help, zip, zap zop. 500 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 4: It's either an easy layup or an easy three pointer. 501 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 4: Celtics played math game. They have thirty two assists on 502 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 4: forty two makes outside of Marcus Morris cooking for the 503 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 4: first half. 504 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 3: Well, it was pretty sweet. The Celtics. 505 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Morris Senior. There were twenty five points. I couldn't 506 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: miss them for a stretch of this game. 507 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I took a screen grab of the stat for 508 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: Al Horford at the end of this game. It was 509 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: oldest in playoff history with fifteen plus points, five plus 510 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: three pointers made, and ten plus rebounds at thirty seven 511 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: years and three hundred and forty seven days. That's why 512 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: I knew it was eighteen days now, seventeen days away 513 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: from the old Man's thirty eighth birthday. Congrats to Al 514 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: and Tito in front row. Yeah, he had the credential, 515 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: had the credential on to pass on to get him 516 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: into the. 517 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 3: Even the good seats. 518 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, usually courts. No, yeah, yeah, yeah, get him there. 519 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 2: They knew he was gonna They knew Al was gonna 520 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,479 Speaker 2: ball out tonight. Yeah, close out the series. 521 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: It's awesome for Boston because Kristaps can take as much 522 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: time as he wants and he is back on the floor. 523 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: He is training, and Al Horford in there to be 524 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: the best version of himself this year. Obviously. 525 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. There's no promise Porzingis is ready to 526 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: start the Eastern Conference Finals, right, We don't know that 527 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 2: and I guess people that did see him warm up, 528 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: maybe it was before Game four Porzingis I'm talking about, 529 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: they said he looked slow. It wasn't like he was 530 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: moving at one hundred percent. So we'll see. But they 531 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 2: obviously took care of business. That's the other part. They 532 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 2: also nobody else got injured. I mean, that was a 533 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: good game plan, just get through these series without any 534 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: other injuries of note to your star players. And yeah, 535 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: kudos to the Calves. Again, they put up a fight here, 536 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: you know, And maybe that's the Celtics not taking in 537 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: all that serious for thirty six minutes or so. But 538 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 2: this was eighty eight eighty five early in the fourth quarter, 539 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: and I'm going, I'm sure a lot of people are going, 540 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: oh my god, Boston, are you kidding me? You're gonna 541 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: make this go six? Or going back to Cleveland? What 542 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: are you doing? You're playing with your food. But then 543 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: they went on that thirteen to two run to control 544 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 2: of the game, and yeah, they move on to another 545 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 2: Eastern Conference Finals. This will be Jellen Brown's sixth Eastern 546 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 2: Conference Finals appearance, Tatum's fifth. Pretty incredible really when you 547 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 2: think about a league now that there is quite a 548 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: bit of parody for them to just be this good, 549 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: this consistently. They just got to win the big one, 550 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: which is what Draymond Green was talking about with Tatum 551 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 2: after the game. Hey, nobody cares some truth to it. 552 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 2: There's some truth to episode. But we'll see here who 553 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 2: now they play either than Knicks or Pacers. 554 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: It's great to see Evan Mobley have his best game 555 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: of the playoffs and have a best second time through 556 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Then last year wasn't all that good, and 557 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: Evan Mobley was. He was just good in this game 558 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: where he was on every sort of dive to the hoop. 559 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: He was getting the pass off the ball, pick and 560 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: dive to the hoop. Blocked Tatum on the first possession, 561 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: and Tatum went at him later on and got him 562 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: on his heels a little bit, but he went and 563 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: scored on Tatum as well. He had a beautiful spin 564 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: hit a lefty hook over Luke Cornett. It was Mobley 565 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: versus Cornet at times in this game, and Mobili won. 566 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: But it's you know, we can get into we will 567 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: the Cleveland offseason story. But there's a lot of questions 568 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: just in terms of how much duplication they have in 569 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: their positions with Mobley and Allen, and then you mentioned 570 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: Garland and Mitchell because on the defensive end, that's a 571 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: little scary for the Cavs going forward. 572 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mobley sort of appeared to thrive as the center 573 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 2: in this series. You know, he played better. This was 574 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: the one positive. He had thirty three career high playoff 575 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 2: career high. 576 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 4: That was a game plan though for the Celtics. They 577 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 4: were trapping Darius Garland. They were doing anything to not 578 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 4: give up a three. So Mobley was running down right, 579 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 4: jad Am I right, Moger is cutting down the lane. 580 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 3: With nobody around him. They were like, we're going to 581 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 3: give up that too. 582 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 4: Every single time he took twenty four shots, it's Tima 583 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 4: fey mosgoff in the finals. You know, that was the 584 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 4: game plan for the Celtics. But at least he performed. 585 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 3: I'm with you. 586 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 4: He looked great in this playoffs and I think that 587 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 4: that's encouraging going forward for the Cavs because they. 588 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 3: Only need one of those big absolutely, So. 589 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. Obviously, the article is already out 590 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 2: there on the Athletic Shan's and friends writing about you 591 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: know what happens this offseason with Donovan Mitchell, with JB. 592 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 2: Bickerstaff and this Cleveland Cavaliers team. Do you you know 593 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: Mitchell is eligible to sign a contract extension, but he 594 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: has not given any indication that he's eager to stay 595 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,479 Speaker 2: or leave if we're being honest, if he doesn't extend 596 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 2: this offseason, though, Cleveland practically would have no choice but 597 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 2: to trade him. I think if he doesn't sign the 598 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 2: extension and then you get into the whole Allen and 599 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: Mobile duplication thing there, what do you think, TK? I mean, 600 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: you're on record thinking Mitchell is probably going to be moved. 601 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 2: You still believe that? I assume after we saw them 602 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 2: go out. 603 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean, maybe it takes another season. Maybe 604 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 4: he does sign this four year, two hundred and eight 605 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 4: million dollar deal and then asks out. 606 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 3: We've seen that kind of thing happen. But I think 607 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 3: it's gonna end. 608 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 4: I think we've already seen Mitchell's last game as a 609 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 4: Cavalier because he said it's about winning for me, not 610 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 4: about winning one round. Literally, he said that after the 611 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 4: Cavs tanked to get a first round matchup favorable to them, 612 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 4: it went seven games they won. They've improved since he's 613 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 4: been there. They made it to the playoff last year, 614 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 4: looked bad, made it to the playoffs this year one, 615 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 4: but weren't close at all to a Celtics team that is, 616 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 4: you know, kind of the standard in the Eastern Conference 617 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 4: right now. 618 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 619 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 4: I think it's more likely that Mitchell leaves and Garland 620 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 4: sticks around, though in the Sham's article basically Darius Garland 621 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 4: and his reputation is saying it's him or me, So. 622 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. 623 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 3: I think it'll probably be Garland sticking in Cleveland. 624 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I never buy into these articles very much, 625 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: which were bang on each single time with Frank Vogel 626 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: being fired and Darvin Ham being fired. Yeah, they both 627 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: worked and in this JB. Brickerstaff situation definitely different than 628 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: those who had a far shorter ten years as coaches there, 629 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: with Darvin Ham had two years, Frank Bogel had one year. 630 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: Bickerstaff has had a five and a half year run here. 631 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: So that to me would be the step to trying 632 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: to get Garland and Mitchell work together for a full season, 633 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: because it obviously didn't even work in the regular It 634 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: wasn't ideal in the regular season. They thrived around Mitchell 635 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: and three shooters right there and Allen at center. And 636 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: the puzzle is, yeah, those two guys, the two guys 637 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: in the back court and Garland, Mitchell can get attacked defensively, 638 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: and Evian Mobley is just so damn good defensively. He's 639 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: one of the best defenders in the league at the five. 640 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: That's what he should be playing. And he is literally 641 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: a very similar player to Jared Allen because they both 642 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: don't shoot threes. I know he did get Mobley did 643 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: get better percentage wise this year in threes, but it's 644 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: just not part of his game. So that's the interesting part. 645 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: If you give up on Darius Garland, who's got a 646 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: very nice fifteen percent trade kicker, that's a lot of dough. 647 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 1: So I don't know, this is a tough one. I 648 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: do think the answer is, though, new coach, let's see 649 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: if we can get it to work with our current 650 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: roster and give him one more year to see if 651 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: it works. 652 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: They never even played together in the regular season. They 653 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: are four main guys. Mitchell, Allen, Garland, and Mobley played 654 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: twenty eight games together, four hundred minutes. They shared the court. 655 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: It wasn't like lights out when they were out there. 656 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, there was very little chance for us to 657 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: see this team with these four guys. League sources in 658 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: that article briefed on the Cavaliers mindset told The Athletic 659 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: that Bickerstaff's job is in serious jeopardy. It got the 660 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: serious in front of the jeopardy there, and then two 661 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: league sources said the team is likely to take some time, 662 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: multiple days to make a decision. You're right, JB. Bickerstaff 663 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 2: is going to be fire tasks. I'm sorry, that's just 664 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: the way it is. This is why we get these articles. 665 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: These people are talking to people in the front offices. 666 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: Happen with Phoenix and Vogel, happened with the Lakers in 667 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: darvin Ham. And it's gonna unfortunately or fortunately, maybe it 668 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: depends on what you think of him, it's gonna happen 669 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 2: here with bicker Staff in the cast because he's out. 670 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: He's even had a longer. That's gonna shocked me how 671 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: long you've been there. It was like, no, he's been 672 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: there that long. 673 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: Bee line had to take the B line out of there. Yeah, 674 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: and this one is it's got more legitimacy to me 675 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: than the first two because the hey, one year fired, 676 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: two years fired, I mean the Lakers situation specifically in 677 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: orbits around Lebron and in the Sun situation. That was 678 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: even weirder to me. How Vogel just got one year 679 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: and Matt Eshba said we need somebody and so they 680 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: found somebody else and Boondolzer. This one makes a little 681 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: bit more logical sense. And the great part about these 682 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: articles is the tidbits throughout the store, throughout the season. 683 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: The season's a little little juicy bits. 684 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: It's always about a game in December. 685 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, always, it's always about a specific moment a game. 686 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 4: Absolutely, we're a team or a player with the Sons. 687 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 4: It was Frank Vogel yelling at them and they're yell 688 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 4: at us, Yeah, yelling. I believe every one of these 689 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 4: and they're all true and JB. Bicker stuff is going 690 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 4: to be done. 691 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: With the Caves. 692 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 4: You guys are right, you know they have. It's weird 693 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 4: because I do feel like the Calves have been getting 694 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 4: better and better going farther and farther. Right, they were 695 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 4: in the play and then they were in the playoffs, 696 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 4: then they won a playoff series, but also every second 697 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 4: half of the season they're way worse. Also, when they 698 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 4: play therefore the best players together, it doesn't work all 699 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 4: that well. It's easier to change the coach. And then yeah, 700 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 4: you mentioned that he lost the locker room, and this 701 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 4: is in December. It's five months later, so I think 702 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 4: he's gone. And then I did not like reading about 703 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 4: Jared Allen in this one. I'll say, Yeah, they're basically 704 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 4: like this guy soft. That's what he's read to to me, 705 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,479 Speaker 4: he wouldn't take an injection so he would go out 706 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 4: and play in the playoffs. 707 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: Yep, that's in that article. Go read it. 708 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 4: And that to me, you know, with the way last 709 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 4: year went when he literally said the lights were too bright, 710 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 4: and then now they're basically calling him out as being 711 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 4: a softy and not coming back to play through injury, 712 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 4: I think he's done as a CAV. Because Mowgli was 713 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 4: good as a center, even playing against a big team 714 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 4: like the Magic in the first round. He went sixteen points, 715 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 4: nine rebounds, two blocks, fifty five percent from the field, 716 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 4: did hit a couple of threes in the playoffs, but 717 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 4: a pretty solid performance. But the Calves owe their draft 718 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 4: picks from twenty twenty five to twenty twenty nine. 719 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 3: All of them go to the Jazz. 720 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 4: They've got swaps in twenty six and twenty eight, So 721 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 4: I think probably makes sense to trade Jared Allen get 722 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 4: some of that draft caspital back because you're probably going 723 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 4: to be building a little bit here. 724 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: I think in Cleveland, maybe the Pelicans as a valan 725 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: chounis sort of replacement. Sure, possibly, I know they's been 726 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 2: linking off. 727 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 3: I love Jared Allen Zion. 728 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: I know, yeah, there's complications there, but the five's got 729 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: to stretch the floor. Jared Allen doesn't do that, so 730 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: that that would be the complication. In New Orleans, every 731 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: team wants to do it, and that's why the Cavs 732 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: should be doing it. They need to. Evan Mobley is 733 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: a better perimeter defender than Jared Allen. As good as 734 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: he is a defender, you see what Evan Mobley does 735 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: to each and every perimeter defender and that's why he 736 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: was voted on an All Defensive team in just year 737 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: two last year. This is just year three. So Jared 738 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: Allen's an older dude, that's part of it. He's got 739 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: a very very nice twenty million dollars per year contract 740 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: for these next two years. That's nice in today's NBA. 741 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: That's her. 742 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 3: That's it. 743 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's your Vovich. 744 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 3: They need some shooting, am I Right there? 745 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 4: You go like I was the worst high volume three 746 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 4: point shooter in the league. 747 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 3: A deal getting done? 748 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: Here was the worst high volume three points? Yea, he was, 749 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: he would know. You don't need Yeah, what was the 750 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: worst year? And his whole on that almost his whole career. 751 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: That's pretty bad. But Evan Mobile is. 752 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 4: Back then, Yes, I will be using that quick update. 753 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: We need a quick update on our instigator draft prior 754 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. It's very very fun to give you 755 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: the scoring system. This is how it works. A technical 756 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: foul will earn you one point. A flagrant one will 757 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: also earn you one point. A flagrant to two points, 758 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: an ejection three points, a suspension five points. So we 759 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: did some drafting. We each got three players. 760 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: What a fine did? We decide on one point for 761 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 2: that because we did have. 762 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 3: Someone to get fined. 763 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: Who got fined depends on the guy, depends on the situation. 764 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 3: Rudy got fined Yeah for money? 765 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Gobert is on this. Yeah, sure you can 766 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: take its point. I think it's I give Trey a 767 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: point otherwise because he doesn't last. He doesn't have good scoring. 768 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 4: So I actually hated to see Luca keeping his cool yesterday. Yeah, right, 769 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 4: is gonna be complaining all season log, which he has been. 770 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: That's a last night. Yeah, we drafted three teams. Trey had, Doncic, 771 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: Gobert and Wagner. Don't call me Wagner, but I did 772 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: for the title of his team d g W Dog's 773 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: Gone Wild now has three points, two texts from Doncic 774 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: and one fine point from Gobert. That's it. Wagner zero 775 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 1: zero surprising. 776 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 3: Yeah he got who did he get that? 777 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 2: It was early? It was early in that it was 778 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 2: in game one. He actually was living up to the 779 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: name and theater draft. He just didn't get penalized and 780 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 2: any scoring from us. 781 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: So Trey is in third and the other two of 782 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 1: us are tied for first as a matter of fact, 783 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: So Skeets had Beverly, Niang and Nurkic. Unfortunately, Skeets, those 784 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 1: guys are all go. The team's done, which is which 785 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: is odd because the name of your team was BNN, 786 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: Beverly Niang, Nurkic all Business Business News Network. That's the 787 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 1: name of It Business News Network. He had seven points 788 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: because he had a Nang Tech, Beverly tech and a 789 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: Beverly suspension for next season. 790 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 2: Yeah that was huge, which ever played his part man. 791 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: Which is weird because he may not even be suspended 792 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: because he may not be back in the league, but 793 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: you never know, you never know he could be. So 794 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: you have seven, while my Tatum Portis and Edwards my 795 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: teapot exchange. We gotta spill some tea also has seven. 796 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: We got tied last night because Tatum had a tech 797 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: against the cast. He had another tech against the cast. 798 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: He had a flagrant against Karros la Verte as well, 799 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: so he said was a great pick man three pick 800 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: three points to go along with Portois's four. Bobby was 801 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: ejected once and Bobby had a tech with getting into 802 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: it with James Johnson. 803 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: We all did a pretty decent job dropping guys. 804 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 3: Get with these. 805 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 2: So you are in the driver's seat because you got Tatum, 806 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 2: you got. 807 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: At least and Curly and Edwards Curling. 808 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 2: Edwards will see if they can yeah, obviously continue their season, 809 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 2: but uh look, let's not count out Luca. Okay, Luca. 810 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: He would have to get really pushed to the edge 811 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 2: look at it to basically throw a punch at somebody 812 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: for you to like maybe to come back and win 813 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 2: this thing. Yeah, maybe you can't get well, you're you're 814 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: sitting pretty Tatum there obviously going to play four to 815 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 2: you know, four to fourteen games still left in them. 816 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 2: You know he's going to get at least one more 817 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 2: tech good stuff. Thank you for the update. You gotta 818 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 2: give me all that information. I'll make a I'll make 819 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 2: a graphic. 820 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I was thinking, man, yeah, gotta make a spreadsheet. 821 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: And I'm like maybe later. I don't know what we're 822 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,720 Speaker 1: playing for or if the loser has to do something, 823 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: we get a winner gets something, you know, right, because 824 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 1: usually we do the pick a payoffs the loser. 825 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 2: The winner gets to watch the other two guys fight. 826 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 4: Cools them on Get Thettle say that. 827 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, well we're speaking of all this. 828 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 2: Did you see another I guess quick correction? And this 829 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 2: was was my doing. We all seem to agree with 830 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 2: it. It wasn't Alec books Hand that was pushing back. Who 831 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 2: was it again on the other team on the Pacers, 832 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 2: Miles Turner was it? 833 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: No, it was Isaiah Jackson. 834 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 2: Isaiah Jackson thank you. 835 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 3: It was Isaiah Harderstein's hair. 836 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: But it looks I. 837 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 2: Watched it ten times, going hold on, is it it 838 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 2: is Hartenstein putting a little there? 839 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like. 840 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 2: So anyway, just keep. 841 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,919 Speaker 1: A note, keeping keeping notes. 842 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,919 Speaker 2: All right, those are last night's games. We'll talk about 843 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 2: the Cavs. We'll see what they do. We'll get into 844 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 2: a whole lot more about the Mitchell situation, maybe potential trades, 845 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 2: and we'll wait to see if bigger staff gets canned. 846 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 2: We got shows all throughout the postseason, all throughout the summer, 847 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 2: so don't you worry about that. But I thought this 848 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 2: would be fun, coming off of Jokic's Monster Game five 849 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 2: performance there in that pivotal Game five the other night, 850 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 2: to run through the top five Nikoli Jokic playoff games. 851 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 2: Top top five, Top five, the top five Jokic playoff games. Guys, 852 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 2: there are a lot of games to pick from. This 853 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 2: guy's put up some monster monster numbers in something like 854 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 2: seventy seventy eight playoff starts. Guy's got fifty eight double 855 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 2: doubles in eighteen triple doubles in his postseason career. But 856 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 2: I got a top five for you and Interestingly, some 857 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 2: of them come in losses, and I think I figured 858 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 2: out a way to beat Yolkic, to beat at least 859 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 2: his team let him get monster lines. At number five 860 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 2: on the list. Twenty nineteen first round versus the Spurs. 861 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 2: This is a game six. This is Jokic's first playoff series. 862 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 2: Forty three points nineteen for thirty from the floor, twelve boards, 863 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 2: nine as sists, two steals. But this was a big 864 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 2: Spurs winning Game six, mainly because Denver got outscored thirty 865 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 2: to eighteen in the fourth quarter. But it wasn't because 866 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 2: of Jokichi did his part in the second half. He 867 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 2: scored twenty seven points on thirteen for sixteen shooting. Jamal 868 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: Murray scored five and nobody else scored more than three. 869 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 2: He got no help in this game six, but the 870 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,919 Speaker 2: forty three, twelve and nine not bad, and he did 871 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 2: come through in Game seven in this series, he went 872 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 2: for twenty one fifteen to ten despite shooting thirty five 873 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 2: percent from the floor in a bit of a dog 874 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 2: fight Game seven to win his first playoff series versus 875 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 2: the Spurs when he got in there in twenty nineteen, 876 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 2: so that gets us started on the list. But it's 877 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 2: a loss. 878 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 1: They beat Damar. They beat Damar, those DeMar de Rosen 879 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: Spurs series that they got. 880 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 4: Him weirdo, right, it's right, it's a Rosen LaMarcus Aldridge, 881 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 4: Yaka Perl, and Derek White all starting wow for the Spurs. 882 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 2: All right, number four on the list. Same year. Next series, 883 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen Conference semifinals versus Portland. I'm picking game three 884 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 2: from this series because this was the quadruple overtime game 885 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 2: he went for thirty three, eighteen and fourteen. But the 886 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 2: fun part is Yokic played sixty five minutes. 887 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 3: Again. 888 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 2: It was a loss for Denver and Jokic. Portland won 889 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 2: won forty to one thirty seven. But man, Yokich playing 890 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 2: sixty five minutes. I mean, you remember this wild ass 891 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 2: game where everybody was, of course playing heavy minutes because 892 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 2: it went to quadruple overtime. But I just wanted to 893 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 2: illustrate this one because you know, it's a fun thing 894 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 2: to be like, this guy's not in shape, this guy 895 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 2: can't run up and down the floor. Well, he played 896 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 2: the most minutes in the game again in his first playoff, 897 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 2: sort of run here and had a really good game. 898 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 2: Thirty three eighteen and fourteen. 899 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 4: But is that the most playoffs minutes ever in a game. 900 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 4: I mean, there can't be a lotta be going close 901 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 4: to sixty five minutes. 902 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. 903 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 3: It's impossible. 904 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 2: It was sixty four minutes and fifty eight seconds. I think, 905 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 2: so I'm rounding up by two seconds. But yeah, I 906 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 2: mean you can check it. 907 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 3: It's got to be close to it. 908 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 1: Gotta be. How many games you've be gone. 909 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 2: To quadruple overtime, let alone a guy play that many 910 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. 911 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot to clay the playoffs. 912 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 2: I will say. I will say in that series, in 913 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 2: Game one, which was a victory for the Nuggets, he 914 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 2: went for thirty seven points, nine boards, six assists, three steals, 915 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 2: two blocks. He was perfect at the line, and he 916 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 2: went eleven for eighteen. So he had a really good 917 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 2: game won there in that conference semifinals. 918 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 4: All right, fourth most minutes ever in a playoff in 919 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 4: a playoff game, most since the nineteen fifties. I don't 920 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 4: know what happened. There was a game on March twenty first, 921 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 4: nineteen fifty three, between the Boston Celtics and the Syracuse 922 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 4: Users and Bob Kuzy Paul Seymour and Red Roche all 923 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 4: played sixty six to sixty seven. Wow, an absolute barn burner. 924 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 3: One eleven, one oh five and four over to wow. 925 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:48,760 Speaker 1: Wow. 926 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 2: Har even seven is like for quadruple crazy. This is 927 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 2: what five years ago at this point. But that's number 928 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 2: four on the list for Jokic's best playoff performances. 929 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 4: It's funny you mentioned the fitness of Jokic because it 930 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 4: was a big time criticism of him early in his career. 931 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 4: And I think about this all the time. When he 932 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 4: came back to the bubble, he looked so much skinnier 933 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 4: after hanging out with Novak Djokovic, and Lee said, I 934 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 4: don't know if he's going to be effective now that 935 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 4: he lost weight. The guy has gone up like the 936 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 4: best five year stretch. 937 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 3: We've seen in a decade. 938 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 4: After that, getting in shape works for basketball, it turns out. 939 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it used to be a chubby man is 940 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: obviously six straight playoff runs here. It is. It's odd 941 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: when you look at all the playoff games that he's 942 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: played in and the fact that him and Jamal Murray 943 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: when they play in a series together, haven't lost around one. 944 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: They always go to a round two or around three. Yeah, 945 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: it's some bad seasons. I mentioned Jamal Murray in there, 946 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 1: because yeah, he got bounced in the first round. Without 947 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: Jamal Murray. Once he keeps going, and he keeps going, 948 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: I guess because he's fit, it's got to be a car. 949 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 2: Well, you get ready to see because I already saw it. 950 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 2: If we get Jokic versus Luca, there's a photoshop going 951 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 2: around like the NBA YouTube thumbnail where it says like 952 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 2: game highlights and then it shows the two stars. The 953 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 2: photoshop is them super chunky, super fat looking. It looks hilarious, 954 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 2: Luca gigantic face and all that Yokic same thing. I 955 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,919 Speaker 2: know that's making the rounds, and I'm sure it will 956 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 2: only catch fire even more if they actually meet in 957 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 2: the Western Conference finals. 958 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: Coming back from going into the bubble, a lot of 959 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: people were either gaining weight or losing weight. It's true, yeah, 960 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: to lose weight. 961 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been pretty good since. All right, Number three 962 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 2: on the list for Yokic performances in the playoffs twenty 963 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 2: twenty three Conference Semifinals versus Phoenix Game four. That's right, 964 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 2: three I've got on the list so far, all in losses. 965 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,240 Speaker 2: This is the game, he went for fifty three points, 966 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 2: twenty to thirty, shooting eleven thirteen at the line, four 967 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 2: rebounds they kept him off the glass, and eleven assists. 968 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 2: Four of Jokic's highest scoring playoff games all came in losses. 969 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 2: Fifty three versus Phoenix last season, forty three in a 970 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 2: first round series, versus the Spurs in twenty eighteen, forty 971 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 2: three in a first round series versus the Wolves in 972 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three last year, and forty one in the 973 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 2: finals versus the Heat in twenty twenty three, which was 974 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,280 Speaker 2: the only game they lost in that series. 975 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 3: This is the. 976 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 2: Secret to stop the Nuggets, Yeah, it really is. 977 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 4: I think this last game five was the first time 978 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 4: that the Nuggets have won a game where Yogis scores 979 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 4: forty or more in a playoff game. 980 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really really wild when you think about it. 981 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,280 Speaker 1: That Phoenix line there earlier in the series, he scored 982 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 1: thirty nine and they won. He didn't get to the 983 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: wires just short when he shot. Also a thirty shots, 984 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: because I've been looking at how many yes did he take? 985 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: The other shoot a lot. Thirty one is the most 986 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: he's ever taken in a playoff game, as it looked 987 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: like he was going to do that against the Timberwolve 988 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: this postseason. He was gonna get up to thirty, but 989 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: foul trouble hurt him. But it's a good point here. 990 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,240 Speaker 1: They're all losses. 991 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild. So I had to go with his 992 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 2: fifty three point game though on this list. Another option though, 993 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 2: Game three versus Phoenix in that series, which was another loss, 994 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 2: he went for thirty, seventeen and seventeen. In fact, four 995 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 2: of Jokic's top thirteen playoff games. Ever, if you're ranking 996 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 2: them by basketball references game score came in this series 997 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 2: versus Phoenix last year, so some of his best work 998 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 2: in the six games. He averaged thirty four and a 999 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 2: half points per game, thirteen boards, ten assists, with a 1000 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 2: block and a steel, shooting almost sixty percent in that series, 1001 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 2: which is just mind blowing. But that's number three on 1002 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 2: the list. Let's get to a win. Number two. Last 1003 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 2: year's Conference Finals Game one versus the Lakers. Thirty four points, 1004 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 2: twelve of seventeen, shooting three to three from deep, twenty 1005 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 2: one rebounds, and fourteen assists. He pulled down a dozen 1006 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,080 Speaker 2: rebounds and had five assists and eight points in the 1007 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 2: first quarter of that Game one versus the Lakers. He 1008 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 2: had eight, twelve and five in the first quarter. That 1009 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 2: set the tone. This was a monster win. This was 1010 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 2: a monster game for a lot of guys. Denver one 1011 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 2: won thirty two, one twenty six. You had Jamal Murray 1012 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 2: scoring thirty one. He was battling an ear infection. I 1013 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 2: had to be reminded of eighty. He went for forty 1014 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 2: and ten. Lebron had twenty six, twelve and nine. Even 1015 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 2: KCP and Austin Reeves both scored over twenty points. So 1016 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 2: everybody was on firing Game one. But the Nuggets hadn't 1017 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 2: beaten the Lakers in a Game one since like seventy nine, 1018 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 2: so this was huge for them. And he was awesome. 1019 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 2: I mean thirty four to twenty one and fourteen. I 1020 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 2: remember us talking about this one. 1021 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: So whoever they play in this year's conference finals, if 1022 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: they do game one, you gotta be scared. Game one, Yes, 1023 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: I was surprised we didn't get a shot over Anthony Davis. 1024 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 2: That was this game. 1025 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 1: That was this game. 1026 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 2: Well, he had a big one. At the end of 1027 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 2: you're thinking of. 1028 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: That, I'm thinking the gem, the back three point shot 1029 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 1: right a while that was the game four to seal it. 1030 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, but he did hit a big one in 1031 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 2: this game one. I was looking at the high it 1032 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 2: was at the end of a quarter. I think Nady 1033 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 2: was right there contesting, and he just hit his classic 1034 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,800 Speaker 2: like dad driveway shot. We're like, oh, come on, man, 1035 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 2: you know he was a monster, but his number one game. 1036 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 2: It is what just happened this week when you look 1037 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 2: at it, and especially when you take into consideration the 1038 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 2: zero turnovers and a two to two series, the pivotal 1039 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 2: game five I'm talking about twenty twenty four here Conference 1040 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 2: semifinals versus Minnesota had the forty burger fifteen to twenty two. 1041 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 2: He had seven boards, thirteen assists, and again zero turnovers. 1042 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 2: Just a masterpiece is what people were calling it. And 1043 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 2: that's why I was like, hold on, has he done better? 1044 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 2: And really not when you're thinking of just like the 1045 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,399 Speaker 2: percentages the game, the importance of that game number, and 1046 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 2: just the flawlessness of the thirteen assists and zero turnovers. 1047 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 2: Chef's kiss here is very good from the Joker, and 1048 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 2: if we get a game seven, I just thought this 1049 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 2: is a final note to throw in here. He's played 1050 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 2: in four game sevens over a two year span in 1051 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen and twenty twenty. Remember they kept going to 1052 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 2: seven games. They won three of them and lost one. 1053 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 2: So if Minnesota can give us a game seven for 1054 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 2: the weekend. Uh, he's had a pretty good record. 1055 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 3: Came back from down three to one twice. 1056 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 2: That's right, the same playoffs. Yeah, that's a that's bubble 1057 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:11,320 Speaker 2: all the time. 1058 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, Duck, maybe Ducker. 1059 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, sorry, Duck. 1060 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 3: So there it is, I got, I got. There's a 1061 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 3: million other games. Game three of the Finals didn't make 1062 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 3: the cut. Sure it could have thirty two to twenty 1063 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:22,919 Speaker 3: and ten. 1064 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 4: It's the only thirty point twenty rebound triple double in 1065 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 4: NBA history. 1066 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 2: How did he shoot in that game? Did he shoot? 1067 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 4: Like? 1068 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 2: It may have got docked a little bit. 1069 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,320 Speaker 3: It was only twelve for twenty one, it's only fifty seven. 1070 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 2: Jesus bad for him. 1071 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a monster. 1072 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 2: And that's so that's following up his the monster one 1073 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 2: that he yeah, yeah, yeah, Jesus Christ. 1074 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, forty one in the loss against Miami. 1075 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's crazy that he's Uh, when it's al 1076 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 2: said done here, he's going to be getting he'll be 1077 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 2: knocking on the door of one hundred. Playoffs starts somewhat soon, 1078 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:52,320 Speaker 2: maybe in a couple. 1079 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 3: Of years, a year or two next season. 1080 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's at seventy eight already there it is 1081 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 2: top five like a trade. Just did I'm missing some 1082 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 2: so let me know in the comments before we go. 1083 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:02,359 Speaker 2: Tweet of the. 1084 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:10,280 Speaker 1: Night Tweet of the night, Wow tweeted the Knight. 1085 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 2: From Sam Quinn, CBS o' at CBS Sports. He was 1086 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,280 Speaker 2: upset about nicknames. That's what Sam wrote. Okay, NBA nicknames 1087 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 2: have gotten so lazy. Jo kichs joker, how original dude 1088 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 2: barely smiles. Anthony Edwards becomes aunt, question mark there, Shake Gilders, 1089 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 2: Alexander is SGA. I could go on what happened to 1090 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 2: Chocolate Thunder, the round mound of rebound. We used to 1091 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 2: be a country. So Sam not happy with some of 1092 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 2: the lazy if you want to call it nicknames. But 1093 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 2: I say, Sam, we're trying to play our part when 1094 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 2: it comes to stupid nicknames, weird nicknames and original nicknames. 1095 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 2: Obviously PJ. Washington, the Chevy tracks. I don't think it's 1096 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 2: on Basketball Reference. It should be other ones we've pushed, 1097 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 2: or you've and come up with Kevin durant as the 1098 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 2: Durantla or Durantla. We were pushing that one for a 1099 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 2: long time. Never really caught on. Chris Quinn, the Medicine Man, 1100 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 2: Joe Johnson, the Armadello Cowboy, the Weirdest One, Good Gord, 1101 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 2: Gordon Hayward, Chris Middleton, the Ferris Wheel, Uh Graves, Vasquez, 1102 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:20,720 Speaker 2: Gray Biscuits. 1103 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 3: Dad's quest why that. 1104 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 2: Would never caught out? 1105 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. 1106 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 2: Hey, we're trying, We're trying to be original. 1107 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,320 Speaker 3: Come on, Sam, Come on, Sam. 1108 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 2: Sam Quinn the Medicine Man. 1109 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,879 Speaker 3: Is the assistant man. I mean. 1110 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 4: Charles Barklay's got a thousand thousand nick names on his 1111 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 4: page on his basketball reference page, Sir Charles, the round 1112 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 4: Mound of Rebound, the Chuckster, the chuck Wagon, the Prince 1113 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 4: of Pizza, the Incredible Bulk, the Leaning Tower of Pizza, 1114 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 4: Bread Truck Boy, Gorge, love Boat, Food World, the Crisco Kid, 1115 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,280 Speaker 4: Wide Load from Leeds, Ton of Fun, and the Good 1116 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 4: Time Blimo are all names names. 1117 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: About him, being Fat Boy, Gorge, Wide Load. 1118 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 3: Crisco Kids. 1119 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 2: I have a small working theory of maybe why we've 1120 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 2: gotten a little lazier with nicknames, or at least they're 1121 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 2: not as original as they used to be. Here's my 1122 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 2: working theory. People have cooler names now, Like a lot 1123 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,879 Speaker 2: of these guys were talking about here that he's saying, Oh, 1124 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 2: these are boring names. Okay, maybe not Anthony Edwards will 1125 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 2: give you that one, but like Shay, that's a really 1126 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:34,399 Speaker 2: cool name. 1127 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,839 Speaker 1: Luca, of course, is Nicola Jokic a cool name? 1128 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, obviously dumb ass I think is pretty bad. 1129 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, but I'm just saying, you know, a guy 1130 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 2: named Charles, you gotta get a little more creative. 1131 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: I guess that's why Luka Doncic is one of his 1132 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,319 Speaker 1: many nicknames. Is too easy. It's just too easy to 1133 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,360 Speaker 1: come up with a nickname, or too hard. That doesn't 1134 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 1: make any sense anyways. I wanted to go through the 1135 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 1: list of Lucas. That's why I got him here. The Matador, 1136 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: El Matador, cool Hand, the Don wonder Boy, El Nuno Maravilla, Okay, 1137 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 1: Swaggyel Luca Legend, too easy, Luca Magic. 1138 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 2: The only ones that you see are here. Luca Magic 1139 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 2: gets thrown around the donk because Olielis and wonder Boy 1140 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 2: had a moment. You know. Now he's a man, so 1141 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:28,879 Speaker 2: it doesn't work. 1142 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 1: Lucas, it's just a good yeah. Yeah, that's why it 1143 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 1: just makes sense. This one was the dawn and not 1144 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 1: the dog. 1145 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,319 Speaker 2: Oh you said the don So the donk never made 1146 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 2: it there, couldn't cut it. 1147 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 3: But the Matador and El Matador jeez, jeez, temper boy 1148 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:45,839 Speaker 3: should be there. That's not bad. 1149 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 4: I'm excited for uh Matus Buzzellis to come to the 1150 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 4: NBA because I think he's got two great nicknames. I'm 1151 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 4: going to try to call him Mietus ball Zellous. Good 1152 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 4: luck with that tall, skinny guy nick Meatball is pretty funny. Okay, 1153 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 4: I could catch on, but I think more likely ball 1154 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 4: Dano as a nickname for not just Bozelli out he 1155 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 4: looks very much like Paul j plays. 1156 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 3: That's good. 1157 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, we have to we have to admit you 1158 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 2: pushing Meatball for Jalen Brunson. 1159 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 3: It ain't working. It just doesn't work. 1160 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,439 Speaker 4: Brunson is a good nickname or a good name as well. 1161 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 4: Yeah last name, it's. 1162 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 3: A great last name. 1163 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,360 Speaker 2: And it's a second tweet related to that, because this 1164 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 2: is uh yeah yah dubin on Twitter. Something important that 1165 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 2: needs to be clarified is that Brunson Burner is not 1166 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 2: a good nickname for Jalen Brunson. It is, however, a 1167 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 2: very good name for a specific move like the in 1168 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 2: and out into the one hand layup, or just a 1169 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 2: general concept of a of smoking a guy like he 1170 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 2: put Ni Smith in the Brunson Burner. I agree with that. 1171 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 2: That's that's perfect. It's not a good nickname for him. 1172 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 2: You're not going to say, oh, the Brunson Burner. But 1173 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 2: a movie pulls off like that one where he buls 1174 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 2: by a guy. 1175 00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I like that. 1176 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 2: But he can't be Meatball either. I mean, I love 1177 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 2: that somebody's going to be a meatball and I can't 1178 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:05,439 Speaker 2: wait till the day. But it's not him. 1179 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 1: Well, no, it's an interesting guy because he really has 1180 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 1: no action on basketball reference. He's got JB, he's got 1181 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 1: brunts and Burner and then he's got brunts him. Oh 1182 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 1: no it's not. No, I mean it might, No, it might. 1183 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 1: There isn't a good one out there, no, no. 1184 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:23,399 Speaker 2: But it's a good name. You're right. 1185 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:23,839 Speaker 3: This is the thing. 1186 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:24,479 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. 1187 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 3: People got great names names or their name Jalen that's 1188 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 3: one of the two. Yeah, that's true, that's true. 1189 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 4: I am surprised though, about the widespread knowledge of bunsen 1190 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 4: burners in general. 1191 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,839 Speaker 2: Really you don't think I don't know. I mean, you 1192 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 2: were a science man, precisely. 1193 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 3: I was a science man. 1194 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,360 Speaker 4: As a man of science, I saw buns and burners 1195 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 4: all the time in high school and college. 1196 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 3: That's why I'm saying. 1197 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't think everybody has a health science degree, right, 1198 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 4: so maybe not everybody's exposed to a bunsen burner. Ergo, 1199 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 4: I'm surprised that everybody's exposed to a bunsen burner. 1200 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good poll. You know what a buns 1201 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:00,799 Speaker 2: and burner? 1202 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 3: You know. 1203 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 4: Next, we're going to check in on your knowledge of 1204 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 4: earl a meer flasks. 1205 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 1: I know that that's where your degree comes from. Bunzer 1206 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 1: burner everybody gets in school high school. 1207 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 3: Right, and you're often using it with an earl and 1208 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 3: myer flask. 1209 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,239 Speaker 2: That's wheep Okay, yeah, okay, I was gonna be my guest. 1210 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:18,760 Speaker 2: By the way. 1211 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 1: That so it's narrow off top and then wide base. 1212 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 2: That's what it's your classic science Yeah, yeah, glass. 1213 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 4: Jar like yeah, slanty cylinders and burner. 1214 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,800 Speaker 1: That was the word flask for. That doesn't seem like 1215 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:35,399 Speaker 1: the right words. 1216 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 2: You ever see anybody have to use the eyewash station 1217 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 2: of course? Really? 1218 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I tried to tell my daughter about it. 1219 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,839 Speaker 1: They're gone too. They're like buns and burners. They're gone, 1220 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,400 Speaker 1: They're gone. Nobody uses them anymore. Oh, here comes j D. 1221 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 1: J D knows how old is your oldest daughter? Six six? 1222 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 1: They don't give six year olds, I know, buns and burners. 1223 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,319 Speaker 1: I was telling her about the station. Yeah, they don't 1224 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 1: get six year olds that either, because they're not allowed 1225 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 1: to use those. 1226 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 2: They probably need more than anybody. They're not honest. All 1227 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:08,839 Speaker 2: you guys say is their kids are sick every time, 1228 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 2: like at the end of the day. 1229 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm actually curious to see put that pull up 1230 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 1: because I had a cold open lined up about a 1231 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 1: bunsen burner. 1232 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,319 Speaker 3: Okay, Like I think it's good. 1233 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 2: It is quite high. 1234 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 1: I think it's high too. But I I sort of get. 1235 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 2: What Trey saying about you just maybe or maybe people 1236 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought a lot of people did 1237 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:30,440 Speaker 2: have that in high. 1238 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 4: School at least, Yeah, high school middle encountered in high 1239 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:34,879 Speaker 4: school and a lot of people in the stream team 1240 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 4: are saying I know it from breaking bad. 1241 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 3: Oh wow big. 1242 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 2: Cooking it up and yeah yeah Science man was yelling 1243 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 2: of a yes, science, yeah, all right, we'll get the 1244 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 2: pull up. Do we have results on the clam chowder 1245 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,359 Speaker 2: versus lobster roll pole that we had going the roll pole? 1246 00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1247 00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,759 Speaker 2: Let me I think it was. Last I checked, it 1248 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 2: was seventy to thirty people were taking. 1249 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 4: Lot all right. I'm looking only at our Twitter sixty 1250 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 4: three percent or going lobster roll over. 1251 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,120 Speaker 2: Shower than I thought it was going to be. 1252 00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,760 Speaker 1: Here on YouTube, it's sixty seven to thirty three, lobster 1253 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 1: roll leading the way. Oh yeah, I don't buy that. 1254 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,360 Speaker 2: I think people were trolling me, is what people said. 1255 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 2: Because I said it was going to be way high. 1256 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 2: There was votes for clam chowder just to piss me off. 1257 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 1: No, no, I expect no, I say, I don't buy 1258 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 1: it because I expect clamchowder to be higher. Oh, come on, 1259 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 1: it tastes good two out of three lobster two. 1260 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 2: Out of three people. As we've proven, we'll take a 1261 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 2: lobster roll over clamshowder. 1262 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 1: Now people have just heard about it more. That's what 1263 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 1: it is. They haven't eaten it. They just haven't hurt. 1264 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 2: Interesting how many people do people know more about clam 1265 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 2: chowder or brunts and burners. 1266 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 1: If you're from New England, if you're Matt Bonner in 1267 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 1: New Hampshire. It's a good question. But I'm telling you, lobster, 1268 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 1: you got it. Don't get in the butter to make 1269 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 1: it something. It's just bland. That's so bad. 1270 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 2: They're closing Red Lobsters left and right. 1271 00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a reason for that. 1272 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 2: Chuck Swirsky's pissed called it the lobster. Yeah what he 1273 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 2: called it the lobster? Yeah. Yeah, you know, you go 1274 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 2: to red lobster too much if you just call it 1275 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 2: the lobster, the lobster. 1276 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:14,600 Speaker 3: It wasn't short in the name at all. 1277 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 2: He said he like hasn't slept in days, is what 1278 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 2: he said or something in that tweet. Am I crazy? 1279 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 3: He said that he's not crazy. 1280 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 2: He said he's like he hasn't been able to sleep 1281 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 2: since they closed a bunch of. 1282 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,200 Speaker 3: So bummed out. Okay read it. 1283 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 4: I am so bummed out. Red lobster is disappearing from 1284 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 4: the planet. I didn't sleep at all last night. The 1285 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 4: Lobster was totally underrated, one of my favorite. 1286 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 3: Go to places. 1287 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 2: He wasn't sleeping. 1288 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 4: I think they literally like had bad financials because people 1289 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 4: went crazy. 1290 00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 3: For the endless shrimp. I spent too much money on shrip. 1291 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was our friend Brad. Our friend Brad put 1292 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 2: him out of business. 1293 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 3: He was one of those guys showing shrimp crazy. 1294 00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 1: Man, shrimp is cheap, I thought, you know, yeah, but if. 1295 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 3: You gotta get unlimited, it adds up eventually. 1296 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 1: You guys, I think they're just bad. They're even closing 1297 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 1: down here in Georgia. Closing down. That's like I think 1298 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: only old people eat it. They're just dying off slowly. 1299 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 2: Did you guys ever go to one of those Red 1300 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 2: Lobster birthday parties where they went nuts Brad and cough 1301 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 2: they like got kicked out. 1302 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 3: No, No, I wasn't there either. I didn't know. I 1303 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 3: thought you were there. 1304 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 1: No, I mean he ate a lot they. 1305 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 2: Got They got so drunk and they were so rowdy. 1306 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 2: They just they got kicked out of Red Lobster. 1307 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:32,920 Speaker 1: How do you get kicked over? 1308 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:34,360 Speaker 3: No, that's tough. 1309 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 4: You can never return to Cheddar Bay early results. Do 1310 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 4: you know what a Bunsen burner. 1311 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 3: That is what I wrote. Do you know what a 1312 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 3: bunch burner? 1313 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,440 Speaker 4: Okay, imagine that the people understood one hundred and fifty 1314 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 4: seven votes as of right now. What do you think 1315 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 4: the percentage of eight ninety saying yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, 1316 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 4: good ye. 1317 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 3: I'm glad to hear that. Good good good, all right, Larry, 1318 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 3: glad to hear it. 1319 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 2: Call it there, great stuff, another classic, at least we think. 1320 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 2: So you gotta tell us by liking the video, subscribing, 1321 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 2: sharing the show, and leaving your boys at five star 1322 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 2: rating and review on the podcast platform of your choice. 1323 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:15,400 Speaker 2: Just one game tonight, Nuggets Timberwolves eight point thirty on 1324 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 2: ESPN Denver can try and move on a conference finals. 1325 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 2: We'll see if the Wolves can give us a game seven. 1326 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 2: So that's only game on tonight. Can't wait to talk 1327 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 2: about it tomorrow on the Drop podcast. If you're a 1328 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 2: Survivor fan, we're talking about the penn ultimate episode of 1329 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 2: Survivor forty six later today one o'clock eastern over on 1330 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 2: No Buffs YouTube page. It's got its own podcast page 1331 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 2: as well, or down our feed, So subscribe to that 1332 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,160 Speaker 2: great episode of talk about it can't wait to get 1333 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 2: into this with GD and Trape. That's later on today 1334 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 2: at one o'clock. Otherwise we'll see tomorrow talks more hoops 1335 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,320 Speaker 2: till then, Clipper Bros. 1336 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up. 1337 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,640 Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome. 1338 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. And remember red Lobsters are shutting down, 1339 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 1: but Applebee's are thriving. 1340 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:02,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god, there are thriving. They can't stop talking 1341 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 2: about apple Peas. 1342 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 3: It's from that Bourbon Street mushroom burger. 1343 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 1: It's a good name. 1344 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:08,640 Speaker 2: Praise the Day people,