WEBVTT - Apple Vision Pro Goes on Sale & Protecting Your Online Privacy 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:05.600 Applevision Pro is now on sale. Another streaming service cracks 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:10.479 down on password sharing. The hot new video game lots 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:14.800 of people are suddenly playing. Plus your tech questions answered. 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:19.640 What's going on? I'm richdmiro and this is Rich on 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:24.759 Tech broadcasting live from Los Angeles, coast to coast. This 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:26.600 is the show where I talk about the tech stuff 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:28.880 I think you should know about. It's also the place 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:32.800 where I answer your questions about technology. I believe that 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:38.000 tech should be interesting, useful, and fun. With that said, 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:40.720 let's open up the phone lines triple A rich one 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:44.840 O one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:49.360 four one zero one eight eight eight rich one on 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:50.720 one give me a call. If you have a question 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.720 about technology. Email is also open. Just go to rich 0:00:54.880 --> 0:01:00.000 on tech dot tv and hit contact guests. This week, 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:03.960 Scott Stein of cnet will join me to talk about 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:10.320 his experience with Apple Vision Pro. Then we've got Lisa Plagamaier, 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:15.320 executive director at the National Cybersecurity Alliance. She's going to 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.000 join to talk about the simple ways you can protect 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:23.200 your privacy and data online. Later, Robin Gelbert, president of 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.800 fair Health, will join to explain their new online tool 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.680 that helps you figure out the cost of a medical 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.840 procedure just by pointing to it on a map of 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:37.560 the body. And special guest Matt Swider of The Shortcut 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.840 is going to join. He took a flight with the 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:44.399 Apple Vision Pro already, so he's going to explain what 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:49.200 it's like to wear this headset on the plane, so 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:52.120 as you might imagine. The big story of the week, 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:56.440 Apple launched its thirty five hundred dollars Vision Pro virtual 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:00.560 reality headset in the US, and uh, it's off to 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:04.400 a running start. Lots of you know, the marketing machine 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:07.120 of Apple is in full swing here and it's for 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:10.880 good reason. Apple CEO Tim Cook was at the New 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:14.120 York City Flagship store, which is so wild. I was 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:16.720 at that store back in two thousand and seven for 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.760 the launch of the iPhone. It's so wild to think 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.600 that in twenty twenty four that store is still there. 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.359 Apple's still going strong. This is a company that has 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:29.000 had so many breakthrough products, so many transformative products. 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:30.799 His thing. 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:35.760 When he was asked about it on ABC Good Morning America, 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.560 the host asked why it's so expensive thirty five hundred 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:41.360 dollars Can a lot of people afford that? He said, 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:46.760 it is tomorrow's technology today, and yes it is tomorrow's 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:50.000 technology today. This thing is not fully figured out. We 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:53.080 do not know how this will work in our world, 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.720 in our lives, but I do believe that this is 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:00.799 now going to be a thing. At launch, over six 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:06.480 hundred apps available. And remember when the iPhone came out, 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.600 there were only the apps that were built in, and 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:12.480 they were very basic, but it did a lot of 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:14.840 cool things and it did it all in one device. 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.760 And this vision pro is just the beginning. It is 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.760 very expensive. In fact, I will tell you that I 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:27.440 did not purchase one. Do I want one, absolutely? Do 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.600 I want to spend time in this thing, absolutely, But 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.280 the way I see it is that you are spending 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.800 thirty five hundred dollars, which really, when you add in 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.760 tax and accessories, you're talking northwards of four thousand bucks here. 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.200 And this is a product that I say will last 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:48.800 a year, because yes, it'll work past a year, but 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.240 you're gonna want the new one in a year because 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.840 it's going to be so much better. Now. I've struggled 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.120 with this because, of course I want to get this 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:58.920 as a tech person. Of course I want to have 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.480 this in my home, But do I want something that 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:06.480 is a solo experience. You can get a TV for 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.920 a quarter of the price and everyone in your house 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.680 can enjoy it. This is something that is very personal, 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.760 very solo. It is not a shared experience, which is fine, 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.800 and I have no problems if you purchase this thing. 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:21.320 You just have to understand that this is money that 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.360 you have to burn. And yes, if you look on 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.560 social media, there are so many people that have said 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.800 they have purchased this thing, which is great. A lot 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.240 of them are going to make money off of purchasing it, 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.560 whether they're developing an app, whether they're making videos, whether 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:37.120 they're going to figure out a new business use case scenario. 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.560 That is all fine. Those are all great reasons. Or 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:41.560 if you just want to have it to have it, 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.240 that's all fine. I have no problem with this. I'm 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:45.840 not going to say that this thing is going to fail. 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:48.280 I'm not going to say that this thing is stupid. 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:50.159 I'm not going to say that this thing is not 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.240 worth it. It is worth it if you can afford it. 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:56.479 I have been inside this headset. It is absolutely incredible. 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:02.320 Now I cover technology for a general audience and I 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.159 will tell you can I recommend that if you're going 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.320 to finance this thing over a year to get this 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.560 Absolutely not. Can I recommend that you take out a 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:14.520 loan to get this thing? Absolutely not. It's just it's 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.200 not worth that to the average person. 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:18.159 Now. 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:22.040 I asked my followers on Instagram and Facebook and here's 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.280 some of the responses I got. Number One, they were 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:28.359 most concerned about the high price point. Many people feel 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:32.800 it's too expensive, not affordable or justifiable to them personally. 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:38.279 They say it's overpriced, too expensive, etc. I would agree 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.640 with all of that for the average person. Number Two, 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:45.000 many people are unsure of the purpose or usefulness of 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.840 this headset. They question what it's going to be used for. 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.320 Is it a toy or do you actually work inside 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.400 of it? And I'm not even sure Apple knows. At 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.039 this point, they have been calling this a spatial computer. 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:57.760 I will tell you I am not ready to give 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:01.720 up my laptop to do work in virtual reality. I'm 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.919 just too comfortable with doing my work on a computer 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.840 without having a giant head piece on to do work 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:13.320 inside there. And when it comes to entertainment, it is 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:18.240 incredible watching a movie on this thing. Incredible Again, are 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:19.719 you going to watch a movie on a Friday night 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.919 by yourself in a headset for two plus hours. Last 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.680 movie I watched was three hours and thirty minutes. I 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:27.919 can't imagine sitting in this thing for three hours and 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:33.560 thirty minutes. Maybe an hour, maybe twenty minutes, maybe thirty minutes. Again, 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:37.120 with the comments, many people indicated they've tried VR headsets, 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.839 but they lose interest over time, and that's true. I've 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.480 had the metaquest in my house for a couple of 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:44.919 years now, and what do I do. I charge it 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:46.799 up every once in a while when I hear something 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:48.839 new about it, I put it on. It is amazing, 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.400 it's incredible. I take it off, and I forget about it. 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:56.000 There hasn't been that one single experience just yet that 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:57.960 has convinced me that this is something I need in 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.040 my life every single day. I'm not saying that's not 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.080 going to happen. It will, or perhaps it will for 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.040 many people, but a lot of people are very uncertain 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:08.800 about spending all this money and whether they're going to 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.880 use it on a regular basis. Number Three, people are 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:17.400 concerned about the design and comfort. So yes, it looks 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.080 like a pair of ski goggles, and it's big, and 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:23.000 it's bulky, and it's going to get smaller over time. 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:27.880 People are worried about motion sickness, vertigo, eyestrain, that those 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:31.560 are all very valid things to be concerned about. I'm 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.000 concerned about having a screen that close to my eyeballs. 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.400 Remember what mom said growing up, don't sit too close 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.240 to the TV screen. Now we're just putting the TV 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:43.280 screen on our eyes. Like, how much closer can it get? 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.640 Some are waiting for a more refined, lighter, and less 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:50.480 intrusive design. That is a very good thing. Now, this 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.000 is a product that has to happen. This is a 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:56.920 product that you can't jump to the final product of this, 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:58.920 which is going to happen in you know, two or 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:03.120 three years, where this thing is refined and perfect. This 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.200 has to happen. You have to get this out there 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.760 because people have to start figuring out what the use 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.200 case is and how they're gonna make apps for this, 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:13.320 and what people are gonna enjoy doing inside of this thing. 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:18.880 Number four In the comments lack of mass market appeal, 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.800 Many express that only appeals to certain users. Many say 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.679 they are simply not interested in this type of device. 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:29.800 Now I would say the not interested, Yes, I understand 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.000 people are like, look, I've got my phone, I've got 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:35.280 my computer, I've got my TV, I've got my tablet. 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.680 How many more screens am I gonna look at on 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:41.839 a daily basis? I understand that. I totally understand that, 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:47.160 But I also think that you should, as a service 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.680 to yourself, go to an Apple store and try this 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.080 thing out. You can do it, You can book an appointment, 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.600 maybe you can just walk in and check it out, 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:58.440 but I highly recommend you do that because the experience 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.280 that they have created inside of this thing is incredible. 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.800 It is the it is tomorrow's technology today. I will 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:08.400 agree with Tim Cook there, He's right, It's just are 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:11.760 we ready for this right now? Is the mainstream person? 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.960 Is the average person ready for this right now? Many 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.160 people do see the positive in the future iterations, and 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.840 one hundred percent I would agree with that. At launch, 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:25.080 like I said, six hundred new apps that are designed 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:29.200 for the three D interface. Some of the main apps NBA, 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:34.760 Major League Baseball, IMAX, HBO, Microsoft apps like Outlook. You 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:39.400 can check your email on this Zoom. NBA apps like games, 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:43.640 super Fruit, Ninja, Ja Crue has a shopping app, Low's 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.680 has a home design app, Zillow has an app that 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.000 lets you look at homes. I think there are going 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.560 to be so many amazing uses of this that we 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:57.040 just can't imagine. Right now. People that already got this thing, 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.720 they're experiencing it, they're figuring it out there saying, wow, 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.520 this is incredible. But imagine when you want to look 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.720 for a house or an apartment, you will do ninety 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.520 percent of your research from home on your couch. You 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:13.000 will walk through the apartment or the home, and you 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.240 will say, nine out of ten times, all right, I 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.360 don't need to go there in real life. Imagine shortcutting 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.320 that process. Imagine you want to go travel to Italy. 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:23.880 You put on the headset, you walk down the streets 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.880 of Rome. Okay, yeah, I want to go there. Or 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.240 a place that you can never really visit in your 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:33.600 lifetime due to money or other restrictions that may be 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:37.559 in your life. Imagine looking at a resort that you're 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.960 trying to decide should you stay at this resort or 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:43.000 that resort. You walk into the resort from the main 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.480 lobby and you walk out and you just see what 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.480 the grounds look like. You walk upstairs to a room 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:49.120 you're trying to decide do I want this room or 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.160 that room. These are all things that are going to 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.120 happen inside this headset. It is going to be a 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:58.240 wild ride. I'm glad Apple launched this. I'm glad it 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.120 is out there in the world, and I'm excited to 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:04.480 see what the future of this display will be. We're 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:06.200 gonna have some guests to talk about it a little 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:07.960 bit later on in the show, but first it is 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.120 your turn. Give me a call Triple eight rich one 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:14.079 O one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:17.360 four one zero one. My name is rich d'amiro, and 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:21.400 you are listening to rich on tech. Welcome back to 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.480 rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:28.840 talking technology at Triple eight rich one on one. That's 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:33.320 eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:38.839 Website for the show is rich on tech dot TV. 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.719 If I mentioned something, you can get the link immediately. 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.200 There's a big red banner at the top of the website. 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:47.680 It says heard it mentioned on the radio links here. 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.160 You click that and that is updated in real time 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.880 as we do the show. And uh I got an email? 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.040 Email is also open. You can go to rich on 0:11:56.080 --> 0:12:00.200 tech dot tv. UH hit the contact link. That's what Fred. 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.320 He said, Rich, you did a segment on smart TVs 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.400 a while ago. I'm in need of a sixty five 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:06.120 inch smart TV and I was wondering if you can 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:10.480 direct me to the radio podcast. Thanks. Yes, I will 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:14.040 put that link on the website. And that's exactly what 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:17.000 I'm doing. I actually it says expert reveals best TVs 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:19.319 for the Big Game on the website. So if you're 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:22.240 looking to upgrade your TV, and I was not, this 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.480 is funny, this is I call this the halo effect. 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.760 So I was thinking of purchasing the Vision Pro, but 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.319 I'm like, Okay, four thousand dollars is an insane amount 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:33.040 of money for something that I know I'll use casually. 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:35.920 I've been wanting a new TV for a long time. 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:39.040 Should I put a fraction of that price towards a 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:42.560 new big screen? And so this morning in my house, 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:46.080 we were taping off the wall and we were seeing 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.760 what a sixty five inch versus a seventy seven inch 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.679 TV would look like on the wall. And every single 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.160 person I've talked to says, go bigger or go home. 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.040 And so I guess we'll be the proud owners of 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:01.720 a seventy seven inch Samsung Old ad TV. Very soon. 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:06.240 Let's go to UH Spencer in North Carolina. Spencer, you're 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:07.640 on with Rich. Welcome. 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:13.400 Hey, Rich, do you think people need to start planning 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:17.880 for the upcoming total solar eclipse because it's going to 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:21.480 be eclipsed all over the United States as a partial 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:28.800 and somewhere between Texas and Maine you will have one 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.640 hundred and fifteen mile wide path where it will become total. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:38.400 And it's very, very critical that you have the correct 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:44.319 solar viewing apparatus so that you can see the partials. 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:48.800 Yeah, I'm excited, this is this is I remember my 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.480 in laws actually went to the They actually flew to 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.319 Montana to see this the last time it happened a 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.000 couple of years ago, and they they said it was 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:57.920 just incredible. 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:01.800 A little more than six days away, So people need 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:07.640 to be planning for this. And the observing solar filters 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:12.800 will always have the ISO number ISO one two three 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:17.000 one two DASH two and those will be safe for 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:21.360 viewing this partial eclipse. And like I said, it will 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:25.640 be partial everywhere, including in the path of totality. It 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.880 will be partial up until the three or four minutes 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:34.120 when the moon completely covers the Sun. And when that happens, 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.520 if you know that the moon completely covers the Sun, 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:41.520 you can take them off and observe the alle that 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.320 is part of a total solar eclipse. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:48.160 And you're talking this is on Monday, March April eighth. 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:49.320 Is that the one you're talking about? 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:54.600 April eighth? Now, depending upon where you are in that path, 0:14:55.800 --> 0:15:01.640 it will be like twelve ish two three ish somewhere 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:02.000 in there. 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.600 Yeah, I'm looking at the NASA has a great website. 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.000 I'll link it up on the h on the show 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:10.360 notes that you can check it out. But you sound 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:14.720 like a quasi expert in this stuff. Huh. I've seen five, 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:15.960 You've seen five. 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:20.000 Total solar eclipses, and I've seen two annular eclipses and 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:21.640 angular is a little bit different. 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:25.239 So my question for you is the solar eclipse glasses 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.360 and the filters that you can get for your phone, 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.080 the photo filter. Are those safe that you see on Amazon. 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.840 As long as they have the ISO one two three 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:42.120 one two DASH two designation on them. Uh, they are 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:47.680 probably good. But the best thing to do is to 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:52.000 look at suppliers that are in this business, and some 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.600 of those suppliers are American Paper. 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:58.760 Optics, Yep, Star Filter, Yeah, I meant. 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.640 Rainbow Symphony, Thousand Oaks Opticle, and Seymore Solar. 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:08.120 Okay, say those one more time. Thousand Oaks Opticle. 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:18.480 Rainbow Symphony, okay, day Star, American Paper Optics Okay, Flipping Shades, 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.600 and Seymore Solar. 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:22.120 Okay. 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.640 Now there's the website. You can go to the hash 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:28.760 all this stuff on it. It's called Eclipse dot aas 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:34.760 dot org and that is the American Association. Well, my 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:40.200 tongue is all tangled up American Astronomical Society, and they 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:44.160 run sky and Telescope, they run all of these other things, 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.920 and they are well versed in what you can and 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.680 cannot do for solar eclipses. 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.720 I love it. This is a great website, Spencer, thanks 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.200 so much for the call. This stuff is exciting. You've 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.440 got some time to plan. It's February March April, so 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.160 you've got two months. But I will link all of 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.200 this stuff that we just talked about on the website 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:05.639 rich on tech dot TV. 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:06.439 Uh. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.840 Some great information and I'm sure people will be taking 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.840 some cool pictures. Just be safe, that's the main thing. 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.959 This is, Uh, this is real all right, Scott Scott 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:21.240 Stott Scott Stein of CNET Coming up next. Welcome back 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.119 to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:28.360 talking technology at triple eight Rich one oh one eight 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:32.320 eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:37.040 Website rich on Tech dot tv links to everything I 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:40.520 mentioned is at the top of that page. Joining me 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:44.280 now is Scott Stein of c NEET. He is one 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.840 of the early reviewers of Apple Vision Pro. He's been 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.200 all over the place with this thing. Scott, Welcome to 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:51.919 the show. 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:54.360 To talk to you, Rich. 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.280 So you've had this thing for a little bit now, 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.160 and you are the king of VR. You've been covering 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.639 VR and headsets for as long as I can remember 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.640 now at CNET, so you're pretty well versed. Like, give 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:08.280 give me a little background on your VR experience. 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.080 Yeah, So, I mean I saw Oculus back from the 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:15.440 first demo, you know, and I reviewed Google Glass for CNET, 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.960 and I went to Microsoft for Hollins to Magic Leap 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:23.199 headquarters when that started metas Reality Labs research. I've been 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.720 all over and so it was really interesting to compare 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.720 this against pretty much most of the things that I've seen. 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:33.000 And so what is sort of your thesis is I mean, 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.800 because as someone who's been using VR for a long 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:39.240 time and ar this is like, this is a new 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.520 take on it, but it's not necessarily new to you. 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.320 So kind of give us, like your thoughts on this. 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:47.439 Yeah, when I came out of the first demo, a 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.240 lot of those feelings still hold true. I was just 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:50.720 talking to a friend who came out of his demo 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.639 at the Apple Store. But it was a bit like 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:57.400 Jurassic Park in the sense of not like the dinosaurs 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.919 are alive, but you did it, you know, like you 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:04.199 did it, you crazy guys, you did it. And what 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.879 I mean is that I've seen all these pieces individually 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.960 coming from a lot of directions, so I wasn't surprised 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:12.920 by the blending of reality or even the fidelity, which 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:16.080 I've seen on one other headset and these things. But 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:20.000 it's that they synthesized it and then it runs iOS, 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:23.440 which is a familiar os. So it's all the futurism 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.440 of a VRAR headset. But then when you're inside, it's 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.640 trying to be like, oh, this is an iPad, you know. 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:33.000 This, Yeah, so explain what it is like to be 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:36.120 inside this thing, because many people have not tried VR yet, 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:38.560 so and this is probably the best or one of 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:42.120 the best like implementations of it. So explain what sort 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:45.399 of AR is and VR and what this headset is. 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.160 Absolutely so VR, it's been around for a while. 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.280 You're you're in a virtual world in three D and 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.080 it's immersive and you're not seeing the real world AR. 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:55.800 You're seeing the real world and virtual things are being 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:59.239 put into it and mixed reality the way Apple's doing 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:02.120 it some other com beanies. It's not technically see through. 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:05.320 It's using cameras to bring in the real world into 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.600 the headset in a way that it looks like you're 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.840 blending the virtual and real. And so what you see 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:13.359 is a really good camera feed in three D of 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:15.639 the world around you, and it's not the same as 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.680 your everyday vision, but it's good enough to watch TV 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:22.880 if you needed to, or look at your phone. 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:23.120 You know, almost like your RoboCop. 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:27.000 And then you see these floating displays which are incredibly 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:29.880 high resolution that is like the retina moment that they 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:33.440 look as good as any monitor I've seen, and videos 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:35.960 look better than my home TV, which I don't I 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.200 don't have a seventy inch o lead, but you know, 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:40.680 it beats the four K TV that's in my home, 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.359 and they can move all over. You're floating and dragging 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.439 these windows all over and you can occasionally open up 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:51.200 one that feels like VR, but you're multitasking and Siri 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:54.000 is there, and then there's a control center and so 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.959 things you're like, it's like my iPad exploded, you know, 0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:58.400 all over the place. 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:01.600 And you can with the screens anywhere, and you can 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:04.960 have multiple screens. You can watch movies inside of this thing. 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:08.360 What are some of the apps and experiences that you're 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:10.800 sort of coming away with thinking, okay, these are really 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:12.560 good inside this headset. 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:14.439 Well, you can see a little taste of it. Cinema, 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:17.760 which Apple is touting on this thing is amazing. The 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:20.840 I mean, thirty five hundred dollars for that is a 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:24.879 lot for anyone to consider. But if you do happen 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:27.520 to get an experience doing it, it feels like sitting 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:29.960 in a movie theater. It feels like looking sitting in 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:33.879 an amazing movie theater with the audio visual experience, which 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:35.560 I don't have a good home theater setup at home, 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:37.800 so it's like a little magical dream to play with 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:41.840 that the spatial video stuff Jopple's talking about that plays 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:46.600 at a scale and a sort of immediacy that like 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:49.400 cognitively makes you feel like you're there. And it's amazing 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:51.880 to see reactions from colleagues like Bridge of Carriot seen 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:54.200 it and others where I think, am I just kind 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:57.320 of you know, am I fooling myself here? But they 0:21:57.359 --> 0:21:59.119 get stunned by it. And if you see a video 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:01.560 of it, it doesn't sure the feeling of being in it. 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:04.000 It's like a window into that world almost, and then 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:06.560 you get a little taste elsewhere. You know, I played 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:09.439 with Jagspace like dropping, which is an app that drops 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:12.399 realistic three D models and they look like an F 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:15.600 one race car looks really enough. 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:16.680 To feel like it could be there. 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:20.959 And you know, Apple's Keynote app allows you to rehearse 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:25.040 in Steve Jobs Theater and look around the audience or 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:28.080 look around the the not the empty stage. There's a 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:31.720 lot of ways that can transport you. Even the environments 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:35.160 look incredibly real. But you know, I want to see 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:36.960 what else can happen. I want to I want to 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:39.240 see who makes dreams up new ideas. 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:39.600 For this headset? 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:43.199 Yeah, I think that is what is super interesting to 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:45.800 me is that this is now unleashed into the world 0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:48.960 and there are many bright thinkers out there that will 0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:51.159 come up with things that maybe even Apple didn't think of. 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:53.639 It's kind of like the iPhone and the iPad. It's like, 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:56.040 you know, Apple puts these tools out there, they kind 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.239 of give you a little push, and then people just 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:01.040 go to town and come up with all kinds of things. 0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:03.720 So that is going to be really interesting to me. 0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:08.200 What about the whole idea of the weight of this thing, 0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:11.399 the sort of idea of having a you know, strap 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:14.439 to your head, the battery, all of the kind of 0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:17.160 the negativity that people have been placing around this thing. 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:19.400 I mean that will be refined over time obviously. 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:20.520 Yeah. 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:22.679 This feels like a lot of people have compared this 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:25.240 to like, you know, you're building the best thing you 0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:28.240 can to show you the vision of what's going to happen, 0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:31.879 and I think that's exactly it. This feels like, you know, 0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:34.760 maybe the very first Mac or even the Lisa. You know, 0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:36.800 this is like something where you go, I can see 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:39.880 the future through all of these pieces, But the battery 0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.520 is big and you have to dangle it with a 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:46.080 battery cord. The headset is like the same size as 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:49.120 any VR headset that's out there, but the weight of it, 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:51.960 depending on the strap, can be frustrating. They didn't do 0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:54.400 any better, you know, like they didn't They didn't make 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:58.720 it feel any more like a pair of glasses. It's 0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:01.280 still much more size wise VR headset, and I think 0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:03.879 that that will limit people. Plus it doesn't work with 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:07.720 my glasses, so you have to get prescription inserts. There's 0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:09.840 a lot of things that are going to make that 0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:11.879 feel clunky, but then when you're in it for a while, 0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:13.560 you go, oh, wow, this is really cool. 0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:17.400 So in your review at cnet dot com you mentioned 0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:23.200 the person detection, you know how that's interesting and kind 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.280 of tell me about that aspect, like when someone walks 0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:27.040 up to you or you kind of you know they 0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:29.200 you know you're in this headset. And I never really 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:31.600 thought about this idea that you're like in this thing, 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.160 you don't know if someone's like creeping up on you, 0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:35.640 but I guess you do with this one. 0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:37.919 Yeah, there were a million things of this where I 0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:39.800 thought there's so many new parts that it was like 0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:42.480 a really tough thing to review because even covering this landscape, 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:44.760 there was a lot to attend to. And then it's 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:46.040 true they do a lot of things. 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:46.800 You know. 0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:47.800 The usually the way a. 0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:49.520 VR headset works is you have to set it up 0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:52.760 for room detection, to set up your boundaries so that 0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:55.080 you can tell it where the safety zone is. 0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:56.639 This headset doesn't do any of that. 0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:59.720 It just starts and if you get too close to 0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:02.240 Fern will tell you you still. 0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:03.119 Could bump into something. 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:08.320 But when people come close, any face it recognizes and 0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:11.679 then it passes through that face into your environment like 0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:14.800 a ghost, and you can turn that off, but it's 0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:17.720 it's kind of like a the way Apple's cameras already 0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:18.640 kind of recognize people. 0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:20.280 They must have applied that here. 0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:24.560 There's also a way that they can see you because 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:27.199 the outside of the headset has these this kind of 0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:31.000 three D like display that shows an animated version of 0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:34.399 a virtual version of your eyes, and it's dim, but 0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:37.200 it shows up like almost like it's under the glass, 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:39.680 and then they can see if you're blinking or looking 0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:42.200 at them, so it's you can make contact. 0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:47.120 Wow. So what's your sort of advice to people that 0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:51.080 may want this? But you know the price is very expensive, 0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:53.440 and I and I talked earlier in the show. I said, 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:55.760 you know, this thing is effectively good for a year, 0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.840 because Apple notoriously comes out with a better version of 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:02.439 their products, like on a really cycle pretty much. But 0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:04.160 what's your advice, what's your guidance. 0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:06.560 I kind of feel like this one may even you 0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:07.280 never know, you're right. 0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.240 It could be next year, or maybe it's even two years. 0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:11.720 It'll be interesting to see. My guidance is this is 0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:16.159 a totally different model of product reveal for them. It 0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:19.760 seems very aspirational. I think they're leaning very much on 0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:23.160 the demos, and it reminds me of like a concept car, 0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:25.840 you know. I think you go like Epcot, and you 0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:29.240 go and get a demo of it and check it out. 0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:32.000 And I think that's also Apple's intent, is to kind 0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:35.560 of start easing people into understanding the idea over time 0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:39.040 that the early adopters may get this now people who 0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:42.320 have the money at this time somehow to spend on 0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:45.199 this luxury device, but that you understand it so the 0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:48.399 next time they roll around, you'll have unders understood all 0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:50.960 these various parts. So I wouldn't recommend anyone I know 0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:55.800 get it unless they felt compelled. But definitely try it, 0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:59.359 because at least they're making that easy. They're they're giving 0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:02.040 a lot of time for people to demo this, which 0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:04.159 is also very unusual for them. 0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:06.680 Now you said you wouldn't recommend anyone get it, See, 0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:08.800 I feel like I would one hundred percent say, like, 0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:12.680 absolutely get this if if you have four thousand dollars 0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:14.800 to burn, like, if this is not a big deal 0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:17.120 to you, one hundred percent jump on the future today. 0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:20.000 That's right, that's a good point. 0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.480 And actually I've had some friends like that, and I said, 0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:25.480 you know, I still say to them, listening, no money 0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.239 means something to everybody, And I'll go, you know, you 0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:31.119 can wait on this. But because I prefer to be 0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.920 a little take the under on amazing them, because usually 0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:35.440 people will try this thing and then be even. 0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:36.679 More amazed than how I described it. 0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:39.360 And I'll say, if I mean, if you just get 0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:41.240 it for the cinema part and you have the money, 0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:46.000 it's incredible for that, and then all the other things 0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:51.960 become increasingly good benefits. The computer part is unbelievably fascinating, 0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:53.960 but I think there are still parts that need to 0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:56.200 be kind of finessed with it, and apps that need 0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:59.880 to be folded in. But when that is finessed, possibly 0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:03.399 this year, that becomes a whole other dimension of this, 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:06.800 using it as your floating monitor interface and doing all 0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:07.560 sorts of stuff with that. 0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:11.040 All right, Scott Stein of cnet, We're gonna leave it there, 0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.640 thanks so much for joining me. Check out Scott's review. 0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:17.439 It is Apple Vision Pro, a mind blowing look at 0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:21.560 an unfinished future at cnet dot com. Eighty to eight 0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.240 rich one O one eight eight eight seven four to 0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:27.840 two four one zero one. This is rich on Tech. 0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:33.160 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging 0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.360 out with you, talking technology at Triple eight rich one 0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:40.200 O one eight eight eight seven four to two four 0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:46.120 one zero one. Is the website. You've got the email 0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:48.000 on the website as well if you want to contact 0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:51.080 this show that way and uh oh, Kevin rode In 0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:53.520 or Ken rode In on the website rich on Tech 0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:56.160 dot tv contact. He said, I would caution all perspective 0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.520 Samsung TV buyers that Samsung does not support Dolby Vision. 0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.960 That's a deal breaker for me. That is a great point. 0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:08.120 They do support HDR, but not Dolby Vision as far 0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:10.720 as I know, so that is something to look out 0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:14.560 for you know, I guess it depends on your setup, right, So, 0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.120 but that is a great point, Ken, thanks for bringing 0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:21.320 that up. Let's go to Sean in Palmdale, California. Sean, 0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:21.960 you're on with Rich. 0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:24.440 Hi, Rich, thank you for taking my call. 0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:25.840 Absolutely, what's up? 0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:29.000 So I made a little bit of a mistake. I 0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:31.200 was super excited to put smart lights in my house. 0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:33.520 So I did the whole house in the smart lights, 0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:38.240 and I bought myself a new Wi Fi mesh router also, 0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:41.320 and I saw that they're both compatible for WPA two. 0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:44.480 But then I learned there's one that is ae S 0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:49.840 and send out. They're not compatent. I'm I'm not sure 0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:51.120 what to do at this point. I'm thinking maybe I 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.040 could do a switch with a second router. 0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:58.280 Okay, so what's the Okay, so what's the problem. The 0:29:58.360 --> 0:29:59.600 lights don't connect to the router. 0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:04.240 That's correct. So the lights are the new whiz app 0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:08.880 lights on the side of the boxes. It does WP 0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.920 A two and I couldn't give the connect. I tried 0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:16.400 and tried, and then I found out that the router. 0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:20.440 I have a Arrow Pro six E and it says 0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:24.760 it does WP A PSK A s E. Okay, I 0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:28.200 think the a SE, the Advanced Encrypted Standard, is what's 0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:32.400 killing me because it can't the lights can't do the encryption. 0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:36.080 Yeah, I was gonna say, because the lights are I mean, 0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:40.160 that's like an older protocol, isn't it, the wp A two. 0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:42.960 You're correct. And the funny thing is these are brand new. 0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.640 They just came out, well here, the latest. 0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:47.840 And greatest, and so they won't they won't connect to 0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:51.080 the router at all. No, And is this a known 0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:53.440 issue or is this just something that it just seems 0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:56.480 to be happening, Like if you go online, does it 0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:59.680 say like these lights don't work with Euros specifically? 0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:04.480 I have not found anyone who said that. Okay, and 0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:07.520 everything I can read on it, all the helps and everything. 0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.840 I even went on the arrow and they said I 0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:11.960 know how to manually take it down to two p Yeah. 0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:12.520 I was gonna hurt. 0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.040 Yeah, I was gonna recommend that. Yeah. 0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.360 And then they also have something called legacy, so if 0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:20.720 you have older devices, yeah, switch over legacy. I did 0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:22.760 that and they still connect. And then that's when I 0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:24.680 found out. I never knew there was such thing as 0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:28.160 AES and those are two completely different things. And I 0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:28.640 didn't know that. 0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:33.800 Well, it's interesting. I'm looking at the euro website and okay, 0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:38.280 says euros well, it says Euro supports WPA two PSK 0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:42.320 and AES. Oh it does say that. 0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:45.480 Yeah, yeah, and as or only AES. 0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:49.880 Well, it says Euro only supports wp A two PSK, 0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:55.840 AES network security. It does not support w EP, WPA 0:31:56.080 --> 0:32:00.160 or wps as. These are known to be insecure. So 0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:04.800 I think that these will work with your Euro because 0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:07.920 I and here's the thing I will tell you, I've 0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:09.720 an Euro as well. I've had it since day one. 0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:12.320 I've had a bunch of different models of it. There's 0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:14.920 only been one device that I could not connect to it. 0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:18.640 It was a an outdoor plug. And I'm not kidding. 0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.240 I went nuts trying to get this thing connected. And 0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:23.840 I did the whole like two point four gigahertz. I 0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:25.840 mean I was sitting out there. At some point I 0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:27.880 just like looked at myself as like, rich, this is 0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:30.920 not this is a twenty dollars plug like this, we're 0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:32.640 not doing this, you know what I mean? But this 0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.000 the fact that you did all these lights in your house, 0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:37.400 I mean, that's a little. 0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:40.600 Bit of how many sixty five oh. 0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.720 My gosh, sixty five. Okay, So I guess at the 0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:44.520 end of the day, I think that you need to 0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:46.960 do a little bit more research on whether this will 0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.400 actually work. I would try, have you contacted Eero to 0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:51.880 like talk to them. 0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.720 Yeah, I didn't get very far. They kept giving me 0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.400 their automated stuff. I couldn't get to a real person. 0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:59.320 Okay, So I would try to figure out how to 0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:02.760 get someone there. I would also I just I feel 0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:04.720 like these lights are going to work with this given 0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:08.280 what I'm seeing on the frequently asked questions here. So 0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:11.640 I would try to continue to get a set of 0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:15.720 these to work with your Eero if you find out 0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:19.880 that they don't. I mean, yes, the secondary network is 0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:22.600 an option, and you could even try. By the way, 0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:24.680 with Eero, they have a guest network. You can try 0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:26.320 to set that up and see if you can set 0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:30.440 it up with a different SSID or you know, Wi 0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:32.640 Fi network and see if you can connect them to that. 0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.080 Maybe because it's a guest network, you can tweak some 0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:37.360 of the settings to bring it down a little bit. 0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:39.680 That might be an option. But the other thing you 0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:41.560 could do at the end of the day is maybe 0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:45.440 just get another router that you plug in and these 0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:47.680 lights just connect to this router. I mean that's you know, 0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.040 you can get a router for you know, fifty sixty 0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.560 bucks and just use that one. But I have a 0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.480 feeling that these do work. I would explore a little 0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:59.320 bit more on the euro website and also the lighting 0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:02.200 website and see, like talk to someone from the companies, 0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.560 maybe from Halo themselves, and see what happens there, because 0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:07.800 I have a feeling this is going to work. Sean, 0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:10.399 keep me posted, okay, Rich on tech dot TV, hit 0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:12.359 that contact button and let me know so we can 0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:14.520 do a follow up. Thanks for the call today. Eight 0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:16.359 a to eight Rich one oh one eight eight eight 0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:20.160 seven four to two four one zero one. News this 0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:23.680 week that Amazon and I Robot terminated their one point 0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:27.600 seven billion dollar acquisition deal. They agreed to do this 0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.600 because they couldn't get approval from the EU. And at 0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:33.920 this point, we have seen so many big deals fall 0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:37.719 through and almost all of it is driven by the 0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:42.480 European Union and their standards and what they allow and 0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:45.160 what they don't allow is quite different from the US. 0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:49.760 They are much stricter than we are here in the US, 0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:53.560 and they really do seem to have kind of like consumers' 0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.560 best interest in mind. Now, I don't know if that's 0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:58.960 the best thing for this I robot, because these robotic 0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:03.200 vacuums have become almost a commodity over the years. Amazon 0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.360 says this deal is going to be a loss for consumers, 0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:09.000 competition and innovation in robotics. They also have to pay 0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:11.560 I robot a breakup fee of ninety four million dollars, 0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.239 and already I Robo on the heels of this said 0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:16.799 that they're gonna have to lay off workers and it's 0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:18.359 just not going to be as good. And of course 0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:20.719 they probably say that just to say it, because you know, 0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:23.200 they want everyone to feel bad for them. But at 0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:25.800 the same time, you know, have we really seen a 0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:29.160 lot of innovation and I think Amazon is probably the 0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:32.960 biggest customer for or the biggest seller of I robot devices. 0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:38.480 So that happened this week. A breakup fee, Yeah, when 0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:40.560 you do these big deals, if they don't go through, 0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:42.759 you got to pay because there's a cost of that 0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:50.319 not happening. Yeah, Bobo wants some eighty eight rich one 0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:52.680 on one eight eight eight seven four to two four 0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:57.040 one zero one. This is rich On Tech Welcome to 0:35:57.440 --> 0:35:59.840 rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you 0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:02.799 t talking technology at Triple eight rich one on one 0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:07.160 eighty eight seven four to two four one zero one. 0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:08.960 This is the show where I talk about the tech 0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:11.000 stuff I think you should know about. It's also the 0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:16.240 place where I answer your questions website richon tech dot TV. 0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:18.239 Joining me in just a minute here will be Matt 0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:21.360 Swider of the Shortcut. He was probably one of the 0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:24.520 first people to use the applevision pro on an airplane, 0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:27.279 so we're gonna get his thoughts on that. But first, 0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:29.520 I just want to tell you about this social media 0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:35.800 executives back on Capitol Hill being grilled by senators. Meta TikTok, 0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:41.080 snapchat x, and discord uh heads were there to talk 0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:45.799 about child safety on their platforms. Lawmakers press them on 0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:50.000 sexual exploitation, predators, and harms to mental health, and also 0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:54.799 the self image children face online. Even Mark Zuckerberg was 0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:58.360 kind of not forced, but it was an interesting moment 0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:01.960 where he turned around in a apologize to some parents 0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:05.720 who lost a child to suicide that was possibly linked 0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:09.720 to social media use. That was a really interesting moment 0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:14.000 senators from both parties, and that's what's interesting about this. 0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.360 A lot of people on both sides agree that stronger 0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:20.880 protections for kids are needed, but so far, we don't 0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.520 know what those protections should look like. We don't know 0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:26.880 how they would be implemented. And these tech companies, of course, 0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:28.799 they want to do it on their own accord. They 0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:33.200 don't want to be legislated to do this. Except for Snap, 0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:36.080 they actually said they would back a bill to create 0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:39.920 a legal liability if they recommended harmful content to minors. 0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:42.759 But most of these companies say, look, we're spending a 0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.799 lot of money on safety tools, so we're doing all 0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:49.880 we can. But are they I don't know. Having two kids, 0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:54.520 I can tell you as a parent that knows technology, 0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:59.279 it is extremely tough to filter or to limit or 0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:02.960 to monitor what your kids do online. And that's with 0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:06.880 kids with a parent that knows about technology. So imagine 0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:09.080 the ninety nine percent of people out there who are 0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:13.200 just giving their kids, you know, a pack of cigarettes basically, 0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:16.160 which is a smartphone and letting them go to town. 0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:20.120 And nobody really knows how bad this is. But we 0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:23.880 are seeing the repercussions, which is, you know, you go 0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:27.040 to any sort of school and all this stuff really 0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:32.040 rules the social media, the texting, the cyber bullying, the 0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:35.360 images they're seeing, the talk of suicide. It is bad. 0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:37.799 It's really bad, and I don't know what to do 0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:41.800 because we can't stop this stuff from happening. It happens 0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:45.880 in real life too. This is just amplified. But are 0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.160 you recommending this stuff to kids? If they look at 0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:50.080 one thing, do you show them more? Do you make 0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:52.760 them obsessed? These are the issues we have to figure 0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:56.080 out with these apps that these kids love to use. 0:38:57.440 --> 0:39:00.880 All right, let's bring on Matt Swider of the shortcut 0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:04.399 dot Com. Matt writes about tech tips and all kinds 0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.160 of stuff. Matt, Welcome to the show. 0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:11.480 Good to be here, Rich and greetings from Montreal. 0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.520 Oh Montreal. Is that where you took your flight with 0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:14.479 the Vision Pro? 0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:18.960 I did? I wanted to take an international flight and 0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:21.600 that was the shortest way to get across the border 0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:24.560 and test out the Apple Vision Pro on a flight 0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:25.920 and in another country. 0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:29.280 Why did you want to why the international aspect? 0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:32.920 Well, I'm kind of curious to see if you know 0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:36.320 you could log in as easily and download some stuff 0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:40.480 from the app store that you couldn't normally do if 0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:42.680 you were, say logged into a foreign account. 0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:44.720 Ah, got it. Okay. The first time I went to Japan, 0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:47.440 it was such a nightmare. Now things have gotten a 0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:49.439 lot better, But like the first time I went there 0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:52.359 the app store, my entire phone changed. It was like 0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:54.840 it was such a night where like I couldn't download music, 0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:58.120 I couldn't like update apps. It was like my whole 0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:00.279 phone just kind of like stopped. Now that was like 0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:02.959 ten years ago, but it was just so like wait, 0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:05.160 I was like wait what Okay, So you got the 0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:07.759 Vision Pro. You waited outside at the Apple Store in 0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:10.600 New York City and you put this thing on, You 0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:13.839 got on a flight. What was it like to wear 0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:15.400 it on the flight? Were people looking at you? 0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:16.600 Yeah? 0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:19.600 So I actually wore it in the Delta lounge and 0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:22.719 it was kind of an interesting thing because there was 0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:25.719 another one other person there who happened to have one, 0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:28.440 and we were both wearing it, and we got so 0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:32.040 many looks and a lot of video being recorded. So 0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:34.000 we had a little bit of a fan club of 0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:36.200 people wanting to experience it. And I gave it to 0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:38.040 the bartender and he tried it on. 0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:39.640 So that was before the flight. 0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:42.880 You gave someone your your headset just like some random 0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:44.240 person put on your headset. 0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.840 The bartender made a good drink, so I was busy 0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:51.799 sipping on a cocktail and he was, you know, experiencing 0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:55.360 the AR technology for the first time, and that was 0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:57.360 it was a delight for me to see. 0:40:57.680 --> 0:40:59.480 Yeah, I imagine what was his reaction. 0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:03.400 He loved it, you know it it was very intuitive. 0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:06.000 So that was really nice because I didn't have to 0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:08.920 explain much. And you know, it's just like dealing with 0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:11.439 your phone, but with windows floating up in the air. 0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:13.399 So what was it like to wear it on the plane? 0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:16.000 Did you get sick? Is it great? Is it amazing? 0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:16.920 What was that like? 0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:21.879 I didn't get sick, which was good news, and I 0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:24.360 loved wearing it on the plane because I didn't have 0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:29.239 to take out my laptop. And surprise, a Delta flight 0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:32.880 in going to an international country did not have a 0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:35.520 TV in the seatback, so I thought I was stuck, 0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:37.759 you know, being bored. But I'm like, oh, I have 0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:41.120 this headset, so I got to watch episodes of Ted 0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:44.920 Lasso in you know, when everybody else was bored around me, 0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:46.680 I was like, all right, I can take care of 0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:51.120 that situation. And that was really nice. I also, you know, 0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:55.719 fixed or remedied the situation of battery life. So if 0:41:55.760 --> 0:42:00.160 I had to give people some tips on traveling it 0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:03.040 in an Apple travel case. They have a travel case 0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:06.400 that they sell or some other case that protects protect 0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:07.120 your investment. 0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:09.880 So that's really Wait does it not come with a case? 0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:13.560 So it it does not come with the case then, 0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:18.120 and that is you know it comes with a you 0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:19.160 have to buy that separately. 0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:21.880 Oh wow, okay, so you gotta you need a travel 0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:23.560 case for the vision pro Yeah. I mean if you're 0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.319 gonna take this thing on a plane, you do not. 0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:27.279 Because I've already seen pictures I don't know if they're 0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:29.800 fake or not of the front glass cracked. 0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:33.200 Yes, yes, I think those were dropped tests. 0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:35.440 Okay, so they were real. Wow, because this is the 0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:38.640 front is glass. So the travel case two hundred dollars. 0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:41.239 This is an expensive investment. 0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:41.440 Now. 0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:43.719 I know for you, obviously you cover this stuff and 0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:45.719 you're gonna be making a lot of content from it, 0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:48.120 so it's well worth it. But do you think that 0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:50.080 if you travel a lot and you're doing a lot 0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:52.520 of international trips, is this just game changing? 0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:54.279 It is? 0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:56.600 And like it's like you were talking about with Scott 0:42:56.640 --> 0:43:00.399 before it's gonna you're gonna have to have version two, 0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:03.040 three four, get a lot cheaper, and that's when it 0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:07.799 becomes game changing. But this reminds me of the iPhone one. 0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:11.000 You know, it was too expensive. That iPhone one costs 0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.040 six hundred dollars when it first came out, and there 0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:15.680 was no app store, there was no front facing camera. 0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:21.839 This is the iPhone one of augmented reality. The other 0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:24.960 thing I did fix was when I was at the 0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:29.280 Apple store, I got a Mophy charger, the power Station Pro, 0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:34.680 and I got a Gan charger from that, the Mope brand, 0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:39.000 and I was able to put the you know, last 0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:41.120 more than two hours. That's like one of the biggest 0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:43.839 problems with something like this is like the battery life 0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.320 goes so quickly, so if you're on a flight across 0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:49.000 the country, you're not going to be able to use 0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:52.680 it for even half of the flight. So, uh, definitely 0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:55.800 I recommend to people getting an external battery, get a 0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:59.520 good one. Mine was twenty thousand millions, so definitely something 0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:01.000 you need for t Now. 0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:04.640 You can also plug this in though, to do continuous power, right. 0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:08.640 Yeah, So that's why I kind of upgraded the charge 0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:11.760 of the charge that it comes with the Apple Vision 0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:15.200 Pro is thirty lots. And while that's all well and 0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:18.440 good to you know, power that up, I feel like 0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:20.759 I don't want to carry a thirty charge around, so 0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:23.279 I wanted to consolidate and have one that will charge 0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:25.640 my MacBook, my iPad, whatever I throw at it. 0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:30.080 Okay, And so again, do you think that this is 0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:33.680 a nice addition to watching a movie on the plane 0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:36.040 or is it kind of like just too much effort? 0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:38.040 Or is it I mean I tried one time to 0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:40.200 bring a VR headset on a plane and I was 0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:42.919 like so embarrassed to wear it. Do you think that 0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:44.839 that happens here or not? Do you think people are 0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:47.200 familiar enough with this that that's not going to happen. 0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:51.560 I think you're definitely going to be embarrassed by wearing 0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:54.279 it if you're self conscious about it, because it will 0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:57.560 draw looks, especially in this first year. But like anything, 0:44:57.640 --> 0:44:59.920 as soon as it's adopted and everybody else can afford 0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:02.359 and get one, as those that drops in price, it'll 0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:06.080 become a commonplace. I do think that the movie watching 0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:09.680 experience is really nice because, say you lean back in 0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:12.000 your seat, you don't have to crank your neck to 0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:15.600 watch the TV if you do have one in your seatback, 0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:19.480 because it'll be you can move the floating window around 0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:21.920 and it kind of goes with you, you know, no 0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:25.319 matter where you are, So that is kind of one 0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:28.640 of the killer apps for me is having multiple windows 0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:31.360 to work or watch a movie. 0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:34.000 I've got about thirty seconds. What about the flight attendant 0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:35.399 when they came up to you to you know, ask 0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:38.160 for a drink or whatever. Did did the pass through 0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:40.680 sort of work or what it does work? 0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:45.520 And people, you know don't really they still communicate with you. 0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:47.000 So that's kind of nice because you can kind of 0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:48.120 see your eyes through it. 0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:50.000 So they talk to you. Wait, hold on your eyes 0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:52.359 like your eyes were on the outside screen. The flight 0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:54.120 attendant came up to you and you literally talked to 0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:56.360 them through this headset, right. 0:45:56.280 --> 0:45:58.239 And that is and no one batter than I it was. 0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:01.560 I was expecting people to, you know, question it more, 0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:03.640 but no one just like it was normal. 0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:07.160 What a world we live in. Oh my gosh, I 0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:09.960 this is so wild. I'm sure flight attendants around the 0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:11.920 world are going to be telling stories about this stuff, 0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:14.200 like in the next couple of weeks of just how wild. 0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:17.520 This is going to be Matt Swider of the shortcut 0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:20.359 dot com. He's got a great write up about his 0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:24.400 Apple Vision pro airplane flight and all the accessories you 0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:26.320 just mentioned. I will link that up on my website. 0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:28.840 Rich on tech dot tv. Matt, thanks so much for 0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:32.200 joining me today. Thanks Rich all right, thanks for being on. 0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:35.000 Before we go to break, let me just tell you 0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:41.680 about Disney UH and ESPN and Hulu. Okay, so Disney Plus, 0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:46.560 remember they were talking about getting this password sharing crackdown 0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:51.600 started while Hulu is doing this. So Hulu announced, they 0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:55.160 emailed subscribers and they said the game, the free ride 0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:57.359 is over. If you want to share your password, we're 0:46:57.400 --> 0:47:01.120 not gonna allow it anymore. So this starts on March four, fourteenth, 0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:03.360 and basically they said they're going to use technology to 0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:06.520 figure out if your account is sharing your password with 0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:10.120 people outside of your household. Now what does that mean? Yeah, 0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:13.400 it's a little bit blurry, But at the same time, 0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:15.319 I think a lot of it has to do with 0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:18.040 the IP address of the systems, if it's a TV, 0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:20.600 if it's a laptop, if you travel and have a 0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:22.880 Hulu account, yes, you'll be able to watch this wherever. 0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:25.400 You travel to. But if you have a Hulu account 0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.160 and you live in California and your you know, family 0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:32.600 member or friend logs in from Georgia, probably not going 0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:36.080 to be allowed. So again, this starts on March fourteenth, 0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:39.520 and this is you know Netflix did this first, because 0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:42.920 here's the deal. These these streaming services. For a long time, 0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:47.000 the growth was just unlimited. People just kept signing up, 0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:49.759 they just kept paying and it didn't really matter if 0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:52.360 people were sharing their accounts. Now they're to a point 0:47:52.640 --> 0:47:54.920 where these streaming services are spending a lot of money 0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:57.799 on original content. Not as many people are signing up. 0:47:57.920 --> 0:48:00.839 Some people are canceling, and so there's saying no, we're 0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:02.880 not gonna let you share these things anymore. And we 0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:05.600 know if you're sharing, they have the systems in place 0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:08.120 to figure it out, they just weren't enforcing it. So 0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:09.960 if you have Hulu, if you have Disney Plus, you 0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:13.640 got ESPN again, free ride is over. You gotta stop 0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:17.040 sharing your account eighty eight rich one on one eight 0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:20.040 eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:23.239 Give me a call if you have a question about technology. Wow, 0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:27.040 I feel like I'm at the uh middle school dance 0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:32.200 That slow dance. You know, you're like nervous to ask 0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:34.959 someone to dance with you. Remember how nervous you were 0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:38.000 back in the day, those little dances. It's all part 0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:42.800 of growing up. You'd stand, you know, hands apart, didn't 0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:48.040 really want to touch. Oh, bobos got in close. Okay. 0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:51.359 Welcome back to Rich on tech eighty to eight Rich 0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:53.799 one O one eight eight eight seven four to two 0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:55.120 four one zero one. 0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:56.440 Uh. 0:48:56.719 --> 0:49:00.920 Let's go to John in Fallbrook, California. John, you're on 0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:01.359 with Rich. 0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:04.879 Thanks Rich, Thanks for taking my call. 0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:09.080 I get two questions, but the most important. 0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:09.359 One is. 0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:15.360 My phone calls, my mis calls, and. 0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:19.520 My phone messages show up on my wife's phone. 0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:24.000 She's got Ice thirteen and I have an S. 0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:30.920 Are you sharing? Are you sharing the same Apple ID? Yeah, 0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:33.040 that's what's happening. That's it. 0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:38.840 Can I use the same iCloud with the do IDs? 0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:40.480 No? 0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:45.080 So well, So Apple has something called family sharing, and 0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:47.320 that's what you got to do. So you can share, 0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:49.960 like if you have iCloud storage, whatever, you have apps 0:49:50.000 --> 0:49:52.919 that you download, anything that you do, you can share 0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:57.560 across those devices. But if you have the same Apple 0:49:57.600 --> 0:50:01.560 ID on both devices, it will share the calls and 0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:05.480 the voicemail. It's interesting. This is a change that is 0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:08.040 not really wasn't really announced in iOS seventeen, but I've 0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:11.240 got enough calls about it where I guess it happened 0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:14.440 and they made this change and it's not like a 0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:18.280 documented thing. But the reality is I see this all 0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:21.600 the time. So many the parents I know their kids 0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:24.239 are logged in with their Apple ID, and so their 0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:26.840 kidds on their iPad and they're seeing all their text 0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:29.759 messages the whole time, and it's like, you got to 0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:32.200 get this kid their own Apple ID. So everyone in 0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:35.080 the family should have their own Apple ID, you and 0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:38.080 your wife, not just for privacy reasons, but also even 0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:39.600 if you have nothing to hide, it's not a big deal. 0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:42.080 It's just it's just better for the security of that 0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:45.000 device and the security of the account, and also the 0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:47.920 way that Apple has set things up, it's best not 0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:50.920 to share an Apple ID with two different users, because, 0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:54.200 like you just noticed, you're going to run into issues 0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:58.240 like this. So set up a secondary Apple ID. It's free, 0:50:58.480 --> 0:51:00.720 and then you link them up under what called Apple 0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:04.480 Family Sharing. And once you have that set up, you 0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:06.880 can then your wife can download any of the apps 0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:11.000 that you've paid for. You can share the iCloud account. 0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:13.399 If you have Apple Music family, you can share that. 0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:15.480 But you get up to I think it's six people 0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:17.880 to share on the account. But set up that John 0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:21.480 and that should take care of it. The voicemail situation, 0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:24.440 I think that's that's interesting that that would show up to. 0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:27.120 But I think maybe that's the way Apple changed the 0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:30.319 voicemail to kind of they're now intercepting the voicemails. It's 0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:31.799 a little complicated. I don't want to get into it, 0:51:31.840 --> 0:51:35.000 but that's probably what's going on there. But yes, separate 0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:37.920 those Apple IDs you should be just fine. Let's go 0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:40.560 to Paul in Columbus, Ohio. Paul, you're on with Rich. 0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:45.160 Thank you and your congratulations on your year plus. 0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:47.799 Thank you, Paul, appreciate that. What can I help you with? 0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:52.600 Okay, I was looking at a TV that was a 0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:55.920 high sense and they've had some pretty good sales and 0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:58.760 I know for a lower end cost either pretty good. 0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:03.640 So I was looking at the fifty five inch U 0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:08.680 seven K Okay, that's the primary numbers in the model yep. 0:52:09.000 --> 0:52:12.280 And then there was one the same one at Costco 0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:15.799 except it was a seven to five K and I 0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:19.960 remember hearing about this before that some large companies purchases 0:52:20.080 --> 0:52:23.440 big Knox stores or whatever will get ones that aren't 0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:26.879 exactly the same number, and I'm just curious what would 0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:30.040 be different about those too when I would get without 0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:32.200 the seventy five the seven. 0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:36.040 So yeah, the High Sense, by the way, Great TV 0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:39.000 so highly recommended the U seven series. The U eight 0:52:39.080 --> 0:52:41.680 series was recommended by the expert we had on a 0:52:41.680 --> 0:52:44.680 couple of weeks ago. So the reason why Costco has 0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:46.920 different model numbers I was just talking about this with 0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:51.040 another person the other day, is that basically it's it's 0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:53.400 mostly for price comparison, like they don't want to make 0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:56.600 it easy to do that, but also Costco sometimes adds 0:52:56.600 --> 0:53:00.080 a little something extra to what they do versus the 0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:02.680 spies of the world or the targets, so they want 0:53:02.680 --> 0:53:05.680 to have their own unique model number to make things 0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:09.400 a little bit trickier for you. I think at the 0:53:09.480 --> 0:53:11.040 end of the day, though, I think that if you 0:53:11.080 --> 0:53:14.120 are getting the TV from Costco, check the specs. There 0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:16.640 might be something that's slightly different, But in many cases 0:53:16.680 --> 0:53:19.319 I think it's probably better than what you'd get out 0:53:19.320 --> 0:53:22.360 there on the open market. Since Costco operates under our membership, 0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:24.440 But that's really what it is. I know it's frustrating 0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:26.880 when you're typing it into Costco to try our Google 0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:29.319 to try to do that search, but I think you'll 0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:31.280 be just fine with what they're offering there at Costco. 0:53:31.360 --> 0:53:34.040 Thanks for the call, Paul. Coming up, we'll talk online 0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:38.640 data privacy. You're listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back 0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:42.000 to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here talking technology with 0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:45.600 you at triple eight rich one oh one eight eight 0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:49.600 eight seven four to two four one zero one. The 0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:53.879 website is rich on Tech dot tv. If you want 0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:55.759 to link to something that I mentioned here on the show, 0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:59.120 just go right to the top it says mentioned on 0:53:59.160 --> 0:54:01.840 the radio. Just click there and you can get links 0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:07.799 in real time. Cybersecurity is such a huge deal in 0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:12.000 our lives privacy. If you're online, you know, chances are 0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:16.080 your information is out there and it is yours to protect. 0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:20.520 So let's bring on Lisa Plagomaire, executive director at the 0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:24.240 National Cybersecurity Alliance, to talk about some of the ways 0:54:24.280 --> 0:54:27.000 we can protect our privacy. Lisa, thanks for joining. 0:54:26.840 --> 0:54:28.680 Me, happy to be here. 0:54:28.719 --> 0:54:32.359 Thanks you so explain to me what the National Cybersecurity 0:54:32.400 --> 0:54:34.319 Alliance is So. 0:54:34.280 --> 0:54:37.879 We're a nonprofit organization. We're actually the founders of Cybersecurity 0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:41.280 Awareness Month every October, and our mission is around empowering 0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:44.040 a more secure, interconnected world. So what that means is 0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:47.680 empowering consumers and everyday people with the information they need 0:54:48.200 --> 0:54:50.799 to stay secured, to keep your information private when they 0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:54.239 choose to, and so it's StaySafe online dot org. We 0:54:54.320 --> 0:54:58.680 have a lot of very plainspoken advice. You won't find 0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:01.440 a lot of techt speaker legalleese on our website. We 0:55:01.480 --> 0:55:05.080 have all kinds of advice for the average average citizen 0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:06.240 easy to understand. 0:55:06.640 --> 0:55:09.440 So let's first talk about kind of like where we're 0:55:09.480 --> 0:55:13.040 at with cybersecurity, like how much are we at risk 0:55:13.080 --> 0:55:15.880 on a daily basis, Like we always hear about hacking 0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:18.080 and you know these data breaches and all that stuff, 0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:20.360 Like how much is the average consumer kind of what 0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:21.200 are they up against? 0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:27.560 They're up against highly highly sophisticated organized crime in nation 0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:30.880 states like the Big Four, so Russia, China, Iran in 0:55:30.920 --> 0:55:36.239 North Korea, and you might have seen Director Ray testifying 0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:42.239 this week about the Chinese infiltrating our critical national infrastructure 0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:45.520 things like the power grids and water treatment plants things 0:55:45.600 --> 0:55:51.600 like that. They used everyday citizens, normal Americans hardware to 0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:54.680 do that. So they used routers in people's homes and 0:55:54.719 --> 0:55:59.960 in small businesses to create essentially a bot that they 0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:03.399 could use to infiltrate our own infrastructure, So using our 0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:04.719 own hardware against. 0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:05.160 Us, if you will. 0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:10.319 So this has gone way beyond, unfortunately, way beyond sort 0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:12.480 of data breaches and things like that. We still have 0:56:12.560 --> 0:56:15.759 to be concerned about those, but it's also escalated to 0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:18.400 the level of being a national security issue. 0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:20.799 So it used to be back in the day if 0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:23.040 you didn't change the password on your router, that was 0:56:23.120 --> 0:56:25.239 kind of like a you know, well, big deal, What's 0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:27.400 what's someone going to do get into my house? 0:56:27.480 --> 0:56:27.719 You know? 0:56:28.880 --> 0:56:32.280 But nowadays, obviously a lot of these companies have taken 0:56:32.320 --> 0:56:34.480 steps to do that and make sure that you're not 0:56:34.600 --> 0:56:38.160 using like a basic, you know, factory password. But what 0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:40.520 about the average consumer, Like, what what are kind of 0:56:40.560 --> 0:56:42.880 like the first steps we can take to protect our 0:56:42.880 --> 0:56:43.880 privacy online? 0:56:44.440 --> 0:56:46.040 So there are a couple of things that are really 0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:46.560 really basic. 0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:50.040 There's there's four main things that everybody can do, and 0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:52.200 if we all did them, they would make a massive 0:56:52.280 --> 0:56:53.320 debt in the problem. 0:56:53.760 --> 0:56:55.360 So The first one is passwords. 0:56:55.360 --> 0:56:58.239 We have some really bad habits about using the same 0:56:58.239 --> 0:57:02.359 password on multiple websites or a similar one. Those are 0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:04.759 really easy to hack. They're using software to hack them, 0:57:05.000 --> 0:57:08.720 password cracking tools. So don't use the same password on everything. 0:57:08.760 --> 0:57:11.200 You probably need a password manager to help you to 0:57:11.680 --> 0:57:15.200 keep it all straight. Then multi factor authentication. That's that 0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:16.920 thing where you know, when you go to sign onto 0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:18.720 your bank account, you have to have a text or 0:57:18.760 --> 0:57:21.840 a push notification from authenticator app before you can get 0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:24.439 into your bank account. So turn that on on every 0:57:24.440 --> 0:57:28.560 single account that offers it. Keeping things up to date, 0:57:28.840 --> 0:57:31.480 so when you get that remind. 0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:32.920 Me later option, do not take that. 0:57:33.400 --> 0:57:36.760 Make sure you run whatever update is trying to run, 0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:39.400 whether it's hardware, software. 0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:41.880 The firmware and your router operating. 0:57:41.440 --> 0:57:44.640 System on your phone or any device. Keep everything up 0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:48.200 to date, especially your anti virus. And then watching out 0:57:48.200 --> 0:57:51.720 for phishing and social engineering, so not every you know, 0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:53.480 instant message you get is going to be from a 0:57:53.560 --> 0:57:54.560 legitimate person. 0:57:54.320 --> 0:57:55.320 That you really know. 0:57:56.120 --> 0:57:59.360 We've all gotten, you know, phishing emails that are really obvious. 0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:02.560 They're not so obvious anymore. With the help of AI. 0:58:02.800 --> 0:58:05.800 The bad guys are getting a lot better at creating 0:58:05.920 --> 0:58:09.640 phishing emails, texts, phone calls that make it harder and 0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:12.520 harder for us to tell that somebody's trying to trick us. 0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:16.560 And I'll add one more, and that's checking your privacy 0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:19.320 and security settings on your devices and all. 0:58:19.240 --> 0:58:20.400 The apps that you use. 0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:24.760 Those are not usually set to, you know, to have 0:58:24.800 --> 0:58:29.320 a default to be maybe the most private option. So 0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:31.400 you might not be comfortable when you start being amp 0:58:31.480 --> 0:58:33.960 to those settings. You might be sharing stuff that you 0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:37.240 don't feel comfortable sharing, and so maybe dial those things 0:58:37.640 --> 0:58:41.600 to a level that you feel more comfortable with, for example, 0:58:42.000 --> 0:58:44.400 making your friends less private on Facebook. 0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:48.320 Now, when you say that these aren't made private, you 0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:50.520 know they're not in the best interest of the consumer 0:58:50.680 --> 0:58:54.640 generally when they're at their de faults. That's probably because 0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:57.120 these companies want to collect as much information on us 0:58:57.160 --> 0:58:59.240 as they can, right, so that they can monetize it. 0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:02.520 Yeah, because at their core, most social media companies are 0:59:02.600 --> 0:59:06.720 essentially advertising vehicles, and so the more information they have 0:59:06.920 --> 0:59:09.640 on us, the more targeted those ads can be, the 0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:11.400 more they can charge for that advertising. 0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:15.120 Now, the big, the big kind of flip side to 0:59:15.160 --> 0:59:17.440 all of this I get from many, many people When 0:59:17.440 --> 0:59:19.240 I say you got to use good passwords, you got 0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:21.600 to use multi factor, you got to update your software, 0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:23.680 you got to do all this stuff, they say, look rich, 0:59:23.680 --> 0:59:25.640 I got nothing to hide, They got nothing to worry about. 0:59:25.680 --> 0:59:27.760 It's not a big deal, Like who wants to come 0:59:27.800 --> 0:59:31.600 into my you know? Uh so I was. I got 0:59:31.600 --> 0:59:33.240 one of my accounts I used to make like a 0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:37.720 Christmas card one year, and that like that account was hacked, right, 0:59:37.760 --> 0:59:39.960 And so the password that I used there, and my 0:59:40.040 --> 0:59:42.880 address and my phone number and my everything is just 0:59:42.960 --> 0:59:45.720 out there on the web because they were hacked. And 0:59:45.760 --> 0:59:47.520 so that's kind of like the thing that I don't 0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:50.680 think people realize is that when you share this information 0:59:50.760 --> 0:59:53.200 with one company, it can be out there in a 0:59:53.320 --> 0:59:56.520 multitude of ways if that company is hacked. 0:59:57.560 --> 0:59:58.320 Right, And a. 0:59:58.240 --> 1:00:01.680 Lot of these criminal organizations recreated massive databases that where 1:00:01.680 --> 1:00:05.040 they're they're trading in your data, just like you know 1:00:05.280 --> 1:00:08.960 the data companies and the legitimate ones in the business world. 1:00:09.560 --> 1:00:12.920 They're building these massive data warehouses with a lot of information. 1:00:13.040 --> 1:00:16.760 So if your password has already been compromised, you might think, well, 1:00:16.800 --> 1:00:19.240 I don't have anything in that specific account that have 1:00:19.320 --> 1:00:19.640 the breach. 1:00:19.720 --> 1:00:21.560 I don't have anything in their value. Like you said, 1:00:21.560 --> 1:00:22.160 who cares. 1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:24.600 The problem is they're going to take that password and 1:00:24.720 --> 1:00:27.120 versions of it, you know, little click it a little bit. 1:00:27.840 --> 1:00:30.200 Using software. They can do this at scale really quickly, 1:00:30.280 --> 1:00:32.520 and they're going to try that on every other account 1:00:32.600 --> 1:00:35.920 out there, and they can do it in minutes using 1:00:36.080 --> 1:00:38.720 technology to do it. Because these are these are businesses 1:00:38.880 --> 1:00:41.320 and time is money for them, so they're going to 1:00:41.440 --> 1:00:43.840 use technology to their advantage. And that's why it's so 1:00:43.880 --> 1:00:47.360 important not to use the same password or similar password 1:00:47.840 --> 1:00:51.240 on multiple accounts and to use MFA the other thing. 1:00:51.120 --> 1:00:51.640 That can happen. 1:00:51.680 --> 1:00:53.440 You might think, oh, this, this doesn't matter to me, 1:00:53.520 --> 1:00:56.520 I don't have anything of value there. When when they 1:00:56.560 --> 1:00:59.000 take over one of your accounts, if they have access 1:00:59.000 --> 1:01:01.040 to one of your accounts, we can use that account 1:01:01.120 --> 1:01:02.040 to try and to harm. 1:01:01.880 --> 1:01:02.640 To somebody else. 1:01:03.200 --> 1:01:06.120 Right, So we've all seen the Facebook instant message that 1:01:06.840 --> 1:01:09.240 looks like it's from ariunt Betty, but it's not harriunt 1:01:09.240 --> 1:01:11.760 Betty or aunt Betty had her Facebook account. It's taken 1:01:11.760 --> 1:01:14.480 over because she's probably using a weak password and no MFBT. 1:01:15.280 --> 1:01:17.680 So you don't want to be the launch pad for 1:01:17.800 --> 1:01:21.800 somebody to go try and defraud other people. You also 1:01:21.920 --> 1:01:24.600 don't want the Chinese coming into your house using your 1:01:24.720 --> 1:01:27.640 router to lob an attack on your local power company. 1:01:27.720 --> 1:01:29.840 I mean, I think that. 1:01:29.600 --> 1:01:32.600 That's really rhythmic, couragious, and most of us can agree 1:01:32.920 --> 1:01:37.160 we wouldn't want our homes exploited in that way by 1:01:37.440 --> 1:01:38.320 a foreign country. 1:01:39.280 --> 1:01:42.120 And can you explain the concept of the dark web? 1:01:44.080 --> 1:01:47.520 So basically, the current Internet was not designed to be 1:01:47.800 --> 1:01:50.080 secure or private. It was designed for the free and 1:01:50.160 --> 1:01:52.440 open flow of information. And if they could build it 1:01:52.480 --> 1:01:54.840 all again today, they would not build its own the 1:01:54.880 --> 1:01:59.240 way it's developed, you need a special browser to get there. 1:01:59.640 --> 1:02:05.000 What's on the dark web is essentially marketplaces. Mainly the 1:02:05.120 --> 1:02:09.560 deal in data, credit card information, social security numbers that 1:02:09.600 --> 1:02:12.360 are for sale, bank account credentials to somebody, and including 1:02:12.360 --> 1:02:15.040 your bank balance so that somebody knows whether or not 1:02:15.120 --> 1:02:19.120 you're worth trying is deal from. And also things like drugs, 1:02:19.240 --> 1:02:24.880 guns and humans, human trafficking, Every bad, possible criminal thing 1:02:24.880 --> 1:02:27.360 that you could think of to buy and sell is 1:02:27.400 --> 1:02:29.040 available on the dark web. 1:02:29.120 --> 1:02:33.160 Unfortunately, Wow, it sounds like we're up against a lot 1:02:33.200 --> 1:02:36.480 of stuff here, Lisa, But I like the couple of 1:02:36.760 --> 1:02:40.080 tenants that you mentioned about you know, keeping our stuff private. 1:02:41.480 --> 1:02:43.840 At the end of the day, I mean, this is 1:02:43.840 --> 1:02:47.000 stuff that we need to stay up on, right, and 1:02:47.040 --> 1:02:50.480 we need to stay aware of this stuff because I know, 1:02:50.560 --> 1:02:52.400 I just I keep hearing in my mind over and 1:02:52.400 --> 1:02:54.120 over people say, come on, they're not what do they 1:02:54.160 --> 1:02:56.280 need to do with me? But when you build this 1:02:57.680 --> 1:03:01.360 profile of someone, there's a lot you can do with that, 1:03:01.520 --> 1:03:04.680 and the time and energy it takes to dig out 1:03:04.680 --> 1:03:07.520 of that if something happens to you is really just 1:03:07.880 --> 1:03:08.520 not worth it. 1:03:09.240 --> 1:03:10.919 We need to think about our loved ones too. 1:03:11.040 --> 1:03:15.360 So older folks, aging Americans, they don't get defrauded as often, 1:03:15.400 --> 1:03:17.760 but when they do, the dollar amounts are high. 1:03:18.320 --> 1:03:19.640 The bad guys are going to go where. 1:03:19.440 --> 1:03:21.040 The money is, Right, why do I steal the bank 1:03:21.040 --> 1:03:23.440 because that's around the bank is, that's where the money is. 1:03:23.880 --> 1:03:26.440 And our aging loved. 1:03:26.120 --> 1:03:29.120 Ones have accumulated their life savings and so when they 1:03:29.120 --> 1:03:31.600 get defrauded, and it happens way too often, it's. 1:03:31.440 --> 1:03:32.600 For large dollar amounts. 1:03:32.600 --> 1:03:34.400 So I spend a lot of time with trying to 1:03:34.440 --> 1:03:36.160 keep my mom safe online for example. 1:03:36.600 --> 1:03:38.040 And then younger people. 1:03:38.280 --> 1:03:42.240 Gen X, gen Y, they click a lot, they move 1:03:42.480 --> 1:03:45.640 really fast through the technology and so they're actually more 1:03:45.800 --> 1:03:49.360 likely to click on something malicious, but when they suffer 1:03:49.360 --> 1:03:51.840 a loss of their data or money. 1:03:51.680 --> 1:03:53.480 Those losses are much smaller. 1:03:53.760 --> 1:03:56.640 But they're moving pretty fast and sometimes not quite paying 1:03:57.200 --> 1:03:57.800 enough attention. 1:03:58.880 --> 1:04:03.640 Lisa Plagamaire, executive director at the National Cybersecurity Alliance, the 1:04:03.640 --> 1:04:09.520 website staysafeonline dot org. Uh, really really good information. Thank 1:04:09.520 --> 1:04:10.840 you so much for joining me today. 1:04:11.600 --> 1:04:12.160 My pleasure. 1:04:13.000 --> 1:04:16.560 All right, that just this stuff. And I'm telling you 1:04:16.600 --> 1:04:19.720 since since I'm here and I get all the emails, 1:04:19.880 --> 1:04:22.520 I know for a fact that this stuff happens on 1:04:22.560 --> 1:04:25.960 a daily basis. People are getting hacked, they're getting scammed, 1:04:26.040 --> 1:04:31.040 they're falling for tricks. Please tell your loved ones, please 1:04:31.080 --> 1:04:34.240 get educated on this stuff. It really will make a difference. 1:04:34.640 --> 1:04:37.320 Eighty eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven 1:04:37.440 --> 1:04:43.320 four to two four one zero one. Welcome back to 1:04:43.520 --> 1:04:47.560 rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking technology at triple 1:04:47.600 --> 1:04:50.720 eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven four 1:04:50.800 --> 1:04:56.200 to two four one zero one. On the website rich 1:04:56.280 --> 1:04:59.320 on Tech dot tv links to everything I mentioned there, 1:05:00.040 --> 1:05:01.920 and you can follow me on social media. I am 1:05:02.000 --> 1:05:07.800 at rich on Tech on Instagram, on x on Facebook. 1:05:07.920 --> 1:05:10.120 You see the trend here it's pretty much rich on 1:05:10.160 --> 1:05:18.000 Tech everywhere. Trending this weekend on Instagram is the free 1:05:18.040 --> 1:05:21.200 TV I told you about a couple of weeks ago. Telly. 1:05:21.720 --> 1:05:25.920 They're giving away free TVs with advertising. So if you 1:05:25.960 --> 1:05:28.080 want to check out that, go to my Instagram at 1:05:28.200 --> 1:05:31.240 rich on Tech. They're in thousands of homes right now. 1:05:31.240 --> 1:05:33.280 They hope to be in millions of homes. I know 1:05:33.400 --> 1:05:36.760 a lot of you are on the list, but they 1:05:36.800 --> 1:05:39.439 are working through it. It is not a guaranteed thing. 1:05:39.480 --> 1:05:42.640 You have to be accepted. You basically apply for the 1:05:42.680 --> 1:05:45.920 free TV. They accept you at some point and then 1:05:45.960 --> 1:05:49.440 they'll send you the TV. But you know, check the terms, conditions, 1:05:49.480 --> 1:05:54.120 all that good stuff. Let's see Robert writes in let's 1:05:54.160 --> 1:05:56.360 see help. I used to have access to a router 1:05:56.520 --> 1:05:59.600 slash modem to plug hardwired devices into, but now our 1:05:59.600 --> 1:06:04.320 household has switched to wireless internet. I cannot plug my voipe, 1:06:04.360 --> 1:06:08.360 magic jack device plus other Ethernet devices in order to 1:06:08.400 --> 1:06:10.720 access internet. Is there a hub I can plug these 1:06:11.200 --> 1:06:14.680 into and then wirelessly connect to t mobiles wireless Internet. 1:06:15.080 --> 1:06:19.280 Thanks for your show and your help, Robert, So Robert, Yes, 1:06:19.480 --> 1:06:23.320 very easy. You need what's called a network switch. So 1:06:24.280 --> 1:06:27.600 if you look on the back of that T Mobile device, 1:06:27.880 --> 1:06:30.640 they call it a gateway. So the way this wireless 1:06:30.640 --> 1:06:32.880 home Internet works, it's the same thing that you have 1:06:33.440 --> 1:06:36.560 from your cable company or the phone company, except the 1:06:36.800 --> 1:06:40.600 signal is delivered via a cellular signal. So you get 1:06:40.600 --> 1:06:43.040 this little device it's called a gateway. You put it 1:06:43.040 --> 1:06:47.440 by your window that pulls in a strong cellular signal 1:06:47.480 --> 1:06:50.960 from outside. It takes that cellular signal and it converts 1:06:50.960 --> 1:06:54.280 it into a Wi Fi signal that then beams throughout 1:06:54.280 --> 1:06:56.880 your house. So instead of that coax cable or a 1:06:56.960 --> 1:07:00.800 DSL cable or any other sort of five cable coming 1:07:00.800 --> 1:07:04.200 into your home like a physical cable, the Internet is 1:07:04.200 --> 1:07:07.680 delivered through a cellular signal. And because we have five 1:07:07.800 --> 1:07:11.800 G ultra wideband and these really robust five G networks, 1:07:12.240 --> 1:07:15.000 these cellular companies like AT and T, T Mobile and 1:07:15.120 --> 1:07:19.560 Verizon are really pushing this idea of your Internet coming 1:07:19.600 --> 1:07:23.360 in through cellular and so yes, you have that little 1:07:23.360 --> 1:07:25.760 gateway box. It's kind of a router that used to 1:07:25.760 --> 1:07:28.760 have from your cable company. But on the back there 1:07:28.800 --> 1:07:31.280 should be a couple of ports that you can plug 1:07:31.480 --> 1:07:34.560 a switch into, so you can get something like a 1:07:34.600 --> 1:07:37.160 net gear switch. I'm looking at best Buy's website thirty 1:07:37.200 --> 1:07:40.200 five bucks for a five port switch. You plug that 1:07:40.240 --> 1:07:43.640 into the back of the gateway and then this will 1:07:43.640 --> 1:07:48.040 give you five Ethernet jacks to plug your stuff into, 1:07:48.360 --> 1:07:50.800 so you can plug your magic jack into there. You 1:07:50.840 --> 1:07:52.880 can plug whatever else you need to plug in that's 1:07:52.920 --> 1:07:56.000 wired your other Ethernet devices. So yes, you can do it. 1:07:56.000 --> 1:07:58.440 And I'm looking at the T mobile website. It says 1:07:58.720 --> 1:08:02.640 third party equipment patibility network switches that connect to the 1:08:02.640 --> 1:08:07.480 gateways Ethernet port are compatible with T Mobile gateways. So 1:08:07.520 --> 1:08:09.680 grab a network switch, Robert, and you will be all 1:08:09.720 --> 1:08:13.640 set up. Sarah in Ventura, California, Sarah, you're on with 1:08:13.760 --> 1:08:15.600 rich Bye. 1:08:16.880 --> 1:08:22.200 I was trying to log into a zoom meeting for 1:08:22.240 --> 1:08:28.800 the first time. I downloaded the app and then I 1:08:28.840 --> 1:08:35.800 tried typing the the event what linked letter thing into it, 1:08:35.960 --> 1:08:42.360 and then it only accepted the letters like hdtts, and 1:08:42.400 --> 1:08:45.680 then it went't accept the coal and blash slash, just 1:08:45.760 --> 1:08:49.000 the letters, So then I tried to copy and paste 1:08:49.000 --> 1:08:53.120 it into it, and then only the punctuation showed up. 1:08:54.680 --> 1:08:57.720 I just gave up. Do you have any ideas what 1:08:58.080 --> 1:08:58.439 caused that. 1:08:59.160 --> 1:09:02.880 So when you're joining a Zoom meeting, there's basically a 1:09:02.920 --> 1:09:07.439 meeting ID. So if you get that meeting ID from someone, 1:09:08.240 --> 1:09:11.439 So everyone that uses Zoom has a personal meeting ID. 1:09:11.960 --> 1:09:14.400 That's a number that does not change. So if you 1:09:14.479 --> 1:09:17.760 want to connect with that person over and over, you 1:09:17.760 --> 1:09:21.360 can just ask them for their personal meeting ID. It 1:09:21.479 --> 1:09:23.760 is one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine 1:09:23.960 --> 1:09:27.559 ten letters, almost like a phone number. So if you 1:09:27.720 --> 1:09:29.840 get that from someone, like if they send you an 1:09:29.880 --> 1:09:34.000 invitation to a Zoom meeting, that ID is in there. 1:09:34.560 --> 1:09:38.320 So if you look at the link that you're getting, uh, 1:09:38.640 --> 1:09:41.840 the it says you know zoom dot us slash j 1:09:42.640 --> 1:09:44.960 and then there's a there's a number after that that 1:09:45.160 --> 1:09:48.519 is the meeting ID. And usually it depends how they 1:09:48.520 --> 1:09:50.800 copy and paste that link to you. But no matter what, 1:09:50.880 --> 1:09:53.519 if you look at a link that someone sends you 1:09:53.560 --> 1:09:56.760 for a Zoom meeting, if you see ten characters in there, 1:09:56.920 --> 1:09:59.640 that is the meeting ID. You can open up the 1:09:59.720 --> 1:10:03.960 Zoom app, you can type tap the join icon, and 1:10:04.000 --> 1:10:07.639 you can type that meeting ID into there. Now, some 1:10:07.720 --> 1:10:12.479 meetings are most meetings have some sort of password on them, 1:10:12.840 --> 1:10:14.600 and so there will also be a password that you 1:10:14.640 --> 1:10:17.120 will probably have to type in as well, and that 1:10:17.200 --> 1:10:22.240 passcode is also inside the meeting ID. If you're using 1:10:22.360 --> 1:10:26.479 a link, typically the link does not have the password in. 1:10:26.600 --> 1:10:29.760 The password is a code, so it will not be 1:10:29.840 --> 1:10:32.360 the same passcode that you can type in. So if 1:10:32.360 --> 1:10:35.000 someone's giving you a link to a Zoom meeting, you 1:10:35.040 --> 1:10:37.479 should just be able to paste that link into a 1:10:37.520 --> 1:10:40.000 browser and it will open up in the Zoom app. 1:10:40.439 --> 1:10:42.160 If you don't want to open up the Zoom app, 1:10:42.200 --> 1:10:45.559 there's usually an option that says, just open up in 1:10:45.640 --> 1:10:47.880 my browser, But they kind of trick you because they 1:10:48.160 --> 1:10:49.559 don't want you to do that. They want you to 1:10:49.600 --> 1:10:51.519 open up in the app, so they kind of make 1:10:51.560 --> 1:10:53.880 you wait a little bit. But if you type in 1:10:53.920 --> 1:10:57.200 that link, and you know on Chrome it might say 1:10:57.240 --> 1:11:00.200 open Zoom, you can say cancel and then and it 1:11:00.240 --> 1:11:05.599 says launch meeting in the browser and you can launch 1:11:05.640 --> 1:11:07.879 that inside your browser if you don't want to download 1:11:07.880 --> 1:11:11.679 any other software. But again, every single Zoom meeting has 1:11:11.800 --> 1:11:15.840 a unique ID or some sort of ID and password 1:11:15.880 --> 1:11:18.479 to join that. Your browser should be able to just 1:11:18.560 --> 1:11:21.360 pass that information into the app and make that happen 1:11:21.360 --> 1:11:25.800 pretty easily. So if you don't have that information. Talk 1:11:25.840 --> 1:11:27.760 to the person that's sending the link. They should be 1:11:27.800 --> 1:11:30.800 able to do that for you. Thanks for the call. 1:11:31.040 --> 1:11:36.600 In Ventura. Amazon launching a new AI shopping assistant called rufus. 1:11:37.240 --> 1:11:40.639 This is on the mobile app. This is generative AI 1:11:40.920 --> 1:11:44.559 trained on Amazon's product catalog and other data. You can 1:11:44.880 --> 1:11:47.800 ask it customer service questions. It can make recommendations, it 1:11:47.880 --> 1:11:51.200 can help refine your search. You can type or speak questions. 1:11:51.200 --> 1:11:55.639 It's basically a chat GPT, but just for Amazon. It's 1:11:55.640 --> 1:11:57.559 called rufus. You're going to see it in the next 1:11:57.600 --> 1:12:00.559 couple of weeks and it's going to give you all 1:12:00.640 --> 1:12:05.160 kinds of recommendations. More ways to spend your money my advice, 1:12:05.600 --> 1:12:09.360 use third party review websites. I mean, Amazon's great, but 1:12:09.479 --> 1:12:12.400 get your buying advice from outside of Amazon. Go to 1:12:12.479 --> 1:12:15.200 Amazon to actually buy the stuff. Triple eight Rich one 1:12:15.200 --> 1:12:17.280 O one eighty to eight seven four to two, four 1:12:17.280 --> 1:12:20.040 to one zero one. Welcome to another hour of Rich 1:12:20.120 --> 1:12:22.920 on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you talking 1:12:23.000 --> 1:12:27.080 technology at Triple eight Rich one oh one eight eight 1:12:27.200 --> 1:12:31.639 eight seven four to two four one zero one. Website 1:12:31.720 --> 1:12:36.320 for the show Richontech dot TV. If you want links 1:12:36.320 --> 1:12:39.479 to anything I mentioned. Big red banner at the top 1:12:39.520 --> 1:12:43.360 of the website. It says mentioned or heard it mentioned 1:12:43.400 --> 1:12:46.879 on the radio links here. There's also a big YouTube 1:12:46.960 --> 1:12:49.800 video you can watch my latest stories that I file 1:12:49.920 --> 1:12:52.639 for KTLA TV in Los Angeles. So if you want 1:12:52.640 --> 1:12:54.599 to see the TV segments that I do, they are 1:12:54.640 --> 1:12:58.400 all there as well. Let's see what else and emails 1:12:58.439 --> 1:13:00.640 also an option just hit contact at the top of 1:13:00.680 --> 1:13:02.960 the page if you want to send your email. That 1:13:03.120 --> 1:13:08.519 is exactly what Michelle did. This is a random, non 1:13:08.600 --> 1:13:13.559 tech question. It's about Bobo, great nickname. A big thank 1:13:13.600 --> 1:13:15.400 you to him for whatever he does for your show. 1:13:15.520 --> 1:13:18.040 Speaking of that, what does he do for your show? Well, 1:13:18.120 --> 1:13:22.960 Bobo is the board operator here and he basically gets 1:13:23.000 --> 1:13:25.200 the show on the air. He runs the music, he 1:13:25.280 --> 1:13:28.439 runs the calls. She does it all. If you're hearing 1:13:28.479 --> 1:13:32.120 my voice, it's because of him. You say his name often, 1:13:32.160 --> 1:13:33.559 but we don't know what he does for your rock 1:13:33.560 --> 1:13:36.600 and radio show. Well, now you know, so can he 1:13:36.640 --> 1:13:37.439 say hi to us? 1:13:38.080 --> 1:13:38.559 I don't know. 1:13:39.240 --> 1:13:41.799 Does your mic work? We have a mic for Bobo, 1:13:41.920 --> 1:13:46.400 but he's very shy. He doesn't necessarily like to No, 1:13:46.479 --> 1:13:49.160 I'm just kidding, Bobo actually does his own radio stuff too, 1:13:49.240 --> 1:13:52.920 So anyway, he'll set up the mic and say Hi, 1:13:53.000 --> 1:13:55.120 But great question. You hear me talk about him often. 1:13:55.160 --> 1:14:00.200 But yes, Bobo is the glue for this show. Phoneer 1:14:00.200 --> 1:14:02.960 triple eight Rich one on one eight eight eight seven 1:14:03.040 --> 1:14:06.439 four to two four one zero one. Let's go to 1:14:06.680 --> 1:14:10.479 uh Walt in Oxnard, California. Walt, you're on with Rich. 1:14:11.920 --> 1:14:15.600 Hey, Hi, Rich, I have a question. I have a 1:14:15.680 --> 1:14:17.360 question about Peacock TV. 1:14:17.920 --> 1:14:19.160 Okay, what's your question? 1:14:20.479 --> 1:14:22.280 How do you talk to an actual person? 1:14:22.840 --> 1:14:25.320 Oh, that's a great question. You know the answer to that? 1:14:25.479 --> 1:14:32.000 You can't that way. I don't think so. I don't 1:14:32.000 --> 1:14:34.240 think there's a person that you can talk to at Peacock. 1:14:34.320 --> 1:14:38.440 I don't think so. What are you trying to do? 1:14:38.560 --> 1:14:41.479 Just get re signed back up? Because I had to 1:14:41.560 --> 1:14:46.320 change my credit card account and I had an automatic payment, 1:14:47.040 --> 1:14:50.320 and of course I have to give them my new 1:14:50.360 --> 1:14:55.360 credit card number, and I can't get through to anybody. 1:14:54.920 --> 1:14:55.439 To do that. 1:14:55.920 --> 1:14:59.080 Well, I'm looking at their website. Peacock TV. This is 1:14:59.120 --> 1:15:04.240 the streaming serve that's owned by Comcast, NBC Universal, whatever 1:15:04.280 --> 1:15:09.360 that all is. But let's see contact us for customer service. 1:15:10.120 --> 1:15:13.360 We are here to help. You can use our help 1:15:13.400 --> 1:15:16.960 center to search through many articles to answer your questions. Additionally, 1:15:17.400 --> 1:15:20.960 our Peacock Helper bop can be accessed through the icon 1:15:21.040 --> 1:15:23.720 in the bottom right, so that's something you can do. 1:15:24.280 --> 1:15:26.559 You can also sign in and use our get in 1:15:26.680 --> 1:15:29.280 Touch page to send us an email message or chat 1:15:29.280 --> 1:15:34.160 with a live agent from nine am until one am Eastern. 1:15:34.960 --> 1:15:38.040 So my recommendation is that if you can sign into 1:15:38.080 --> 1:15:41.040 your account sign in, you should be able to change 1:15:41.120 --> 1:15:45.000 the email or the credit card through there directly. If not, 1:15:45.240 --> 1:15:47.479 you can chat with someone. But here's the big warning 1:15:47.520 --> 1:15:50.840 I have walt because this happens a lot people like 1:15:50.920 --> 1:15:54.000 yourself and many others. They will Google for a phone number, 1:15:54.000 --> 1:15:57.280 so they'll say like Peacock phone number and on Google. 1:15:57.400 --> 1:16:02.080 And what happens is scam artists will actually buy advertising 1:16:02.280 --> 1:16:04.719 or even set up a website with a phone number 1:16:04.720 --> 1:16:07.240 that you could purportedly call to get in touch with 1:16:07.320 --> 1:16:10.960 Peacock or whatever customer service you know you're looking for, 1:16:11.320 --> 1:16:13.200 and that will be a direct line to a scam 1:16:13.280 --> 1:16:14.920 artist that is that is going to take you for 1:16:14.960 --> 1:16:15.200 all you. 1:16:15.240 --> 1:16:18.000 Got, yeah, and they want you to pay a dollar 1:16:18.080 --> 1:16:18.360 for it. 1:16:18.520 --> 1:16:20.920 Yeah, So be careful with that That's the main thing 1:16:21.000 --> 1:16:23.840 that I've seen happen over and over with people. You know, 1:16:23.880 --> 1:16:26.400 they need help with their cable or their TV or 1:16:26.439 --> 1:16:29.840 one of these services that notoriously do not have live 1:16:29.880 --> 1:16:33.880 customer service agents over phone, and they will immediately ask 1:16:33.880 --> 1:16:36.000 for your credit card like you said, Oh, we just 1:16:36.040 --> 1:16:38.400 need a dollar to get this started. What they're really 1:16:38.400 --> 1:16:40.040 trying to do is get your numbers so that they 1:16:40.040 --> 1:16:42.600 can really scam you. But I would you do you 1:16:42.600 --> 1:16:45.040 know your log in for your website for this Peacock 1:16:45.080 --> 1:16:47.360 stuff or no, it's. 1:16:47.200 --> 1:16:49.680 Just the only way I've ever done it in the 1:16:49.720 --> 1:16:51.120 past is my email address. 1:16:51.160 --> 1:16:53.320 Okay, so yeah, so go in there sign in. If 1:16:53.360 --> 1:16:56.040 you forget your password, just do a forgot password. But 1:16:56.080 --> 1:16:59.040 you should be able to just go in and update 1:16:59.160 --> 1:17:05.160 your your information yourself. If you can't Google, well, make 1:17:05.160 --> 1:17:09.000 sure you're on the peacocktv dot com website, but look 1:17:09.040 --> 1:17:10.799 for help. There should be a link at the bottom 1:17:10.840 --> 1:17:13.360 of the website that says help. If you click that, 1:17:13.600 --> 1:17:17.559 you can find the customer service bot or I would 1:17:17.640 --> 1:17:20.960 sign into your account and chat with them. But you 1:17:21.000 --> 1:17:22.800 should be able to go in there and update your 1:17:22.840 --> 1:17:26.479 credit card number yourself. I signed up for Peacock when 1:17:26.520 --> 1:17:29.760 they did the the streaming game. I forget which one 1:17:29.840 --> 1:17:31.800 it was, but I paid like a couple bucks for 1:17:31.840 --> 1:17:33.880 the year. I think it was twenty dollars. No, no, sorry, 1:17:33.880 --> 1:17:36.160 it was not for the game. It was during Black 1:17:36.200 --> 1:17:38.800 Friday and I got the Cyber Monday deal. It was 1:17:38.840 --> 1:17:40.960 like twenty or something dollars for the whole year. It 1:17:41.000 --> 1:17:44.679 was incredible. Thanks for the call, Well appreciate it. Bobo 1:17:44.760 --> 1:17:46.960 has his headphones on, So is this the one and 1:17:47.000 --> 1:17:51.400 only Boboah see, we can't hear you. We got this 1:17:51.439 --> 1:17:54.360 is the problem with Bobo has a mic, but it 1:17:54.640 --> 1:17:57.960 like doesn't No, I can't. No a little bit, I can. 1:17:58.200 --> 1:18:01.920 It's just very faint. Yeah, it's very faint. But Bobo 1:18:02.240 --> 1:18:04.880 is uh, he's got a great voice. You just can't 1:18:04.880 --> 1:18:08.000 hear it right now. So uh, let's go to in 1:18:08.080 --> 1:18:11.040 the meantime, Frank in Denver, Colorado. Frank, you're on with Rich? 1:18:11.760 --> 1:18:13.599 Okay, Hi, Rich, do you hear me? Okay? 1:18:13.760 --> 1:18:14.800 I can hear you? Sure. 1:18:15.360 --> 1:18:15.599 Yeah. 1:18:15.640 --> 1:18:18.000 We just had six inches of snow this morning, and 1:18:18.040 --> 1:18:20.559 I think that kind of affects the internet, and. 1:18:20.600 --> 1:18:24.160 I think it can. I think we're we're in Los Angeles, 1:18:24.200 --> 1:18:26.280 We're getting about six inches of rain in the next 1:18:26.280 --> 1:18:29.240 couple of days. So no matter where you live, you 1:18:29.280 --> 1:18:30.840 know you're getting something. What's up? 1:18:31.040 --> 1:18:34.599 I should stay it up. Oh, my granddaughter called last night. 1:18:34.800 --> 1:18:38.400 Did that my wife's cell phones an iPhone? 1:18:38.560 --> 1:18:41.040 Can I think it is? She said, she thinks it's 1:18:41.080 --> 1:18:43.000 been had, And then well, how do you know whether 1:18:43.040 --> 1:18:50.360 they he dancers, you know her h whatever for for 1:18:50.520 --> 1:18:53.320 Facebook and other people. And then she set my wife's 1:18:53.360 --> 1:18:57.240 pictures changed because it's an over picture. So how do 1:18:57.320 --> 1:19:00.320 I circle in general? And they have to do in 1:19:00.400 --> 1:19:03.360 order to get around me? Is going to hack it? 1:19:04.600 --> 1:19:07.760 So the picture on your daughter's phone changed when your 1:19:07.760 --> 1:19:08.439 wife called? 1:19:10.040 --> 1:19:13.280 No what she called my wife? She said, the picture 1:19:13.400 --> 1:19:14.720 from Facebook change? 1:19:14.880 --> 1:19:20.280 Okay, well, I mean look there and these are two iPhones, right, yeah, 1:19:20.280 --> 1:19:23.439 Well I don't. I don't think that the iPhone is 1:19:23.479 --> 1:19:25.920 hacked because it is really tough to hack an iPhone 1:19:26.479 --> 1:19:29.559 unless you know. Yeah, I don't. I don't think that 1:19:29.640 --> 1:19:33.880 her iPhone is hacked. So iPhone has a feature that 1:19:34.080 --> 1:19:37.840 is new in iOS seventeen. Gosh, I can't remember what 1:19:37.920 --> 1:19:43.080 it's called, Oh, gosh, contact posters, and so this is 1:19:43.200 --> 1:19:47.360 a new feature that basically lets you set up what 1:19:47.439 --> 1:19:51.720 you look like to someone else's phone when you call them. Now, 1:19:51.760 --> 1:19:54.280 your your wife may or may not have set that up. 1:19:54.600 --> 1:19:56.920 But there are a variety of places that the iPhone 1:19:57.000 --> 1:20:00.040 will pull a contact picture from. That could be a 1:20:00.080 --> 1:20:03.240 Google account, it could be another online account that you're 1:20:03.280 --> 1:20:06.080 linked up with your contact. It could be your iCloud account, 1:20:06.360 --> 1:20:09.920 It could be your iPhone when you update your profile picture. 1:20:10.200 --> 1:20:14.519 But I think what's happening is is the contact poster 1:20:14.720 --> 1:20:18.280 in iOS seventeen was set up somehow, like your wife 1:20:18.280 --> 1:20:21.120 maybe said share photos. Sometimes when you text someone it 1:20:21.120 --> 1:20:25.240 says share share information, and so I think that's what happened. 1:20:25.760 --> 1:20:28.280 But I don't think that the phone is hacked. I 1:20:28.280 --> 1:20:32.080 don't think that your wife was hacked unless it is, 1:20:32.200 --> 1:20:35.120 you know, if it's Facebook. The way that that happens 1:20:35.160 --> 1:20:37.760 is once you're hacked on Facebook, they immediately reach out 1:20:37.800 --> 1:20:40.320 to all of your contacts on like Facebook Messenger and 1:20:40.360 --> 1:20:43.200 they try to like say something to them. So if 1:20:43.200 --> 1:20:45.280 that's happening, then yes, you might have been hacked. But 1:20:45.520 --> 1:20:49.360 the way to safeguard from all of this stuff is 1:20:49.640 --> 1:20:52.559 two ways. Number One, strong password. Make sure that that 1:20:52.640 --> 1:20:55.080 is strong and unique on every account that you have 1:20:55.600 --> 1:20:59.280 number two, make sure that you have two factor authentication 1:20:59.800 --> 1:21:03.719 ton on for all of your important accounts. So those 1:21:03.760 --> 1:21:06.920 two things in combination should really protect you from ninety 1:21:06.960 --> 1:21:09.120 nine percent of the hacks out there. There will always 1:21:09.160 --> 1:21:12.120 be something else, but that's it. And if you want 1:21:12.120 --> 1:21:14.599 to update your contact poster, you can go into your 1:21:14.640 --> 1:21:19.400 contacts and you can look at your own contact and 1:21:19.439 --> 1:21:21.800 that's up at the top it says my card. You 1:21:21.800 --> 1:21:24.200 can go in there and you can edit your contact 1:21:24.200 --> 1:21:26.960 photo and poster. And that's what you look like to 1:21:27.040 --> 1:21:29.439 other people when you call their iPhone. It only works 1:21:29.439 --> 1:21:31.960 from iPhone to iPhone like a lot of the Apple 1:21:32.000 --> 1:21:35.360 features do. Thanks so much for the call, Frank, stay 1:21:35.960 --> 1:21:40.720 stay snow free. I guess out there in Denver. I 1:21:40.720 --> 1:21:42.800 want to tell you about the new game everyone's playing. 1:21:42.800 --> 1:21:46.320 It's called Pale World. It's kind of a twisted version 1:21:46.439 --> 1:21:51.200 of Pokemon. Yes, many people playing this. It is Nineteen 1:21:51.360 --> 1:21:54.960 million copies were sold in the first two weeks. Xbox 1:21:55.000 --> 1:21:58.160 says it is the largest third party game ever on 1:21:58.200 --> 1:22:01.679 their Xbox Game Pass. It's also bailable on Steam, sold 1:22:01.760 --> 1:22:05.000 five million copies there. It kind of looks like Pokemon. 1:22:06.160 --> 1:22:08.639 Some are criticizing it because It's like a twisted version 1:22:08.680 --> 1:22:11.400 of Pokemon. It's a game where you catch these cute 1:22:11.439 --> 1:22:14.040 little creatures called pals, and you not only battle them, 1:22:14.360 --> 1:22:16.639 but you also force them to work and you monitor 1:22:16.680 --> 1:22:19.280 their well being, their mental well being. It is a 1:22:19.320 --> 1:22:21.880 weird game, and a lot of people are spending their 1:22:21.920 --> 1:22:25.760 time playing this game. Why because it's so weird and 1:22:25.840 --> 1:22:28.240 it's so different than Pokemon. You get away with stuff 1:22:28.240 --> 1:22:30.560 in this game that you'd never get away with in Pokemon. 1:22:31.640 --> 1:22:34.160 But people are saying, what's Pokemon going to do? Because 1:22:34.200 --> 1:22:37.960 it looks like it's a ripoff. There's been apparently a 1:22:37.960 --> 1:22:40.479 lot of talk about that if Pokemon's going to try 1:22:40.479 --> 1:22:42.439 to shut this down. I don't think it's going to happen. 1:22:42.800 --> 1:22:45.240 It's a video game. Yeah, there's a resemblance to the 1:22:45.240 --> 1:22:47.760 little creatures, but apparently it's pretty wild. I have not 1:22:47.760 --> 1:22:49.840 played it personally, but I know a lot of people 1:22:49.880 --> 1:22:53.799 that are, and it's one of those things that happens 1:22:53.800 --> 1:22:56.559 and people really like. Again, it's called Powe World, rated 1:22:56.560 --> 1:22:58.760 tea for teens, so if your kids are playing it, 1:22:58.840 --> 1:23:00.439 kind of get to know what they're doing in there. 1:23:01.520 --> 1:23:04.320 Eighty eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven 1:23:04.479 --> 1:23:08.280 four to two four to one zero one. Coming up 1:23:08.320 --> 1:23:11.280 this hour, we're going to talk to Robin Gilbert, president 1:23:11.360 --> 1:23:15.599 of fair Health. They've got a new tool that can 1:23:15.640 --> 1:23:18.439 tell you what a medical procedure would should cost by 1:23:18.520 --> 1:23:21.760 pointing to a map of the body part. You are 1:23:21.800 --> 1:23:33.240 listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech. 1:23:33.360 --> 1:23:36.519 Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology at 1:23:36.560 --> 1:23:39.200 Triple eight Rich one O one eight eight eight seven 1:23:39.320 --> 1:23:42.960 four to two four to one zero one. Give me 1:23:42.960 --> 1:23:44.840 a call if you have a question about technology. Coming 1:23:44.880 --> 1:23:48.519 up this hour, we've got Robin Gilbert, president of fair Health. 1:23:49.280 --> 1:23:51.920 She's going to join to explain their new online tool 1:23:51.960 --> 1:23:54.040 that can help you figure out how much a medical 1:23:54.080 --> 1:23:58.519 procedure should cost just by pointing to the body part. 1:23:59.400 --> 1:24:02.160 It's pretty interesting. So if you're looking to get some 1:24:02.200 --> 1:24:04.559 sort of medical procedure and you're wondering, like what should 1:24:04.560 --> 1:24:07.240 this cost or what what what's the range of the cost, 1:24:07.680 --> 1:24:09.880 you can literally just like point to the foot and 1:24:09.920 --> 1:24:12.360 like it'll tell you all the different things that you 1:24:12.360 --> 1:24:14.280 know you may do to that. So that's really interesting. 1:24:14.280 --> 1:24:16.479 We'll have her in just a little bit. I see 1:24:16.520 --> 1:24:18.719 Bobo with the headphones on. Does this mean you've gotten 1:24:19.120 --> 1:24:23.200 access to the ah there he is, So Bobo, explain 1:24:23.280 --> 1:24:23.760 what you do. 1:24:24.560 --> 1:24:26.800 I am your tech producer, so pretty much. 1:24:26.840 --> 1:24:29.519 I am in charge of making sure that your mic works, 1:24:29.560 --> 1:24:32.360 but apparently not my mic, and I play the music, 1:24:32.560 --> 1:24:34.559 make sure the commercials are in, and just make sure 1:24:34.600 --> 1:24:37.120 you sound crisp and the show's flowing properly. 1:24:37.320 --> 1:24:39.080 And how do you think the show is flowing today? 1:24:39.160 --> 1:24:40.000 It is amazing. 1:24:40.800 --> 1:24:43.800 I've never had a bad time coming here. I love 1:24:43.840 --> 1:24:45.320 coming to work on Saturday mornings. 1:24:45.360 --> 1:24:46.880 To be honest with you, this is why I love 1:24:46.920 --> 1:24:49.200 Bobo because he always has a smile on his face 1:24:49.520 --> 1:24:53.000 and he has a positive attitude and it's just and 1:24:53.400 --> 1:24:55.600 he always gets things right, like, you know, except for 1:24:55.640 --> 1:24:57.920 your own mic. For some reason, I know, it's like 1:24:57.960 --> 1:25:01.080 a cruel joke that your mic doesn't work when you're 1:25:01.120 --> 1:25:02.720 in charge of all this stuff, Like there's so much 1:25:02.720 --> 1:25:05.559 equipment that you're sitting in front of that I am 1:25:05.560 --> 1:25:07.960 the tech person and I can't even I would never 1:25:08.000 --> 1:25:09.320 be able to figure out how to get on the 1:25:09.320 --> 1:25:10.880 air here. I guess that's for good reason. 1:25:11.080 --> 1:25:13.599 I think it's just so the board ops us tech 1:25:13.640 --> 1:25:16.920 people won't talk too much like yeah, so like the 1:25:16.960 --> 1:25:17.960 show is Rich on Tech. 1:25:18.000 --> 1:25:21.160 It's not Rich and Bobo. Bobo is a nickname. My 1:25:21.280 --> 1:25:22.280 real name is Aaron. 1:25:22.400 --> 1:25:25.000 It was a family nickname that I've had since I 1:25:25.080 --> 1:25:27.840 was like one, and when I got in radio twenty 1:25:27.920 --> 1:25:28.479 years ago. 1:25:28.560 --> 1:25:30.519 It just kind of stuck. Yeah, I was gonna say 1:25:30.520 --> 1:25:32.840 the nickname. You have to explain it, so now you know. Okay, 1:25:32.920 --> 1:25:35.160 So if you're listening, you hear me talk about Bobo. 1:25:35.520 --> 1:25:38.360 He is the guy that gets everything on the air. 1:25:38.520 --> 1:25:42.920 Thanks for explaining that. We've got a call in a second. 1:25:42.920 --> 1:25:43.080 Here. 1:25:43.160 --> 1:25:44.840 Let me just tell you about this. If you bought 1:25:44.880 --> 1:25:49.240 one of these snap drones, it's called the Pixie, they 1:25:49.280 --> 1:25:52.080 are recalling it. I don't think you bought one, only 1:25:52.120 --> 1:25:54.800 seventy one thousand people did. But if you happen to 1:25:54.800 --> 1:25:56.840 have one of these things, you can get your money back. 1:25:57.439 --> 1:26:00.479 This was a flying camera drone. It was actually pretty cool. 1:26:00.479 --> 1:26:04.400 Its well reviewed, but the batteries on it can overheat 1:26:04.439 --> 1:26:07.760 and bulge, causing fires. They had one fire and one 1:26:07.840 --> 1:26:12.160 minor injury reported. These Pixie drones were sold by Snap 1:26:12.439 --> 1:26:15.200 It's that Snapchat and also Amazon dot Com. If you 1:26:15.280 --> 1:26:18.479 have one, stop using it immediately, take the battery out. 1:26:18.560 --> 1:26:21.640 Don't recharge it. If you want a refund, which you 1:26:21.640 --> 1:26:24.879 should probably get, you have to return the drone body 1:26:24.920 --> 1:26:28.080 to Snap, not the battery. They have instructions on the 1:26:28.080 --> 1:26:32.439 website support dot Pixie dot com, Pixy dot com. You're 1:26:32.439 --> 1:26:36.400 gonna get your full purchase price back. Whether you refused 1:26:36.439 --> 1:26:38.280 a card, they'll put it back on that card, or 1:26:38.320 --> 1:26:40.439 if you don't have that anymore, they'll send you a check. 1:26:41.160 --> 1:26:44.520 But this is a recall again of the Snap Pixie 1:26:44.920 --> 1:26:48.400 flying drone could catch on fire. If you bought one, 1:26:48.920 --> 1:26:51.960 seventy one thousand of you did get your money back. 1:26:52.080 --> 1:26:54.000 Maybe it's been sitting in a closet for the last 1:26:54.000 --> 1:26:57.200 couple of years. Go ahead, get that money back. Let's 1:26:57.240 --> 1:27:01.280 go to Mickey in Camarillo, the home of Try, the 1:27:01.320 --> 1:27:06.320 first place I ever tried. Try Tip Mickey your own rich. 1:27:05.680 --> 1:27:08.640 Yes, I just wanted to know about that duck go 1:27:09.000 --> 1:27:11.120 that they I've heard of now is that you cannot 1:27:11.439 --> 1:27:14.320 if you use it, that you can't be I guess 1:27:14.360 --> 1:27:17.240 it doesn't follow you or you know, I mean compared 1:27:17.280 --> 1:27:19.800 to Google. I mean, you've got our setting step, but 1:27:19.840 --> 1:27:22.920 I'm just wondering what that is that legit it is? 1:27:23.080 --> 1:27:28.200 Yes, Duck Duck Goo is both a search engine and 1:27:28.240 --> 1:27:31.320 it's also a web browser as well, so you can 1:27:31.360 --> 1:27:33.840 get well, there's actually three levels, so you've got the 1:27:33.880 --> 1:27:36.400 search engine if you just go to duck duckgo dot com. 1:27:36.720 --> 1:27:40.320 You can use that in place of Google. Or you 1:27:40.360 --> 1:27:44.080 can download an extension, which means you can use it 1:27:44.200 --> 1:27:47.479 inside of your web browser and it will try to 1:27:47.520 --> 1:27:52.360 make your web browsing more private. Or you can get 1:27:52.400 --> 1:27:56.080 the entire browser from Duck duck Go and that will 1:27:56.280 --> 1:27:59.799 really make things much more private. So they're kind of pledge. 1:28:00.200 --> 1:28:02.200 This was founded in two thousand and eight. Their whole 1:28:02.200 --> 1:28:05.679 mission is to protect your privacy. They run this search 1:28:05.720 --> 1:28:08.880 engine that doesn't track your search history, so as far 1:28:08.880 --> 1:28:12.759 as I know, you don't sign in to this. They've 1:28:12.760 --> 1:28:17.760 got downloads for all the different browsers and let's see 1:28:17.800 --> 1:28:21.439 what else do you need to know? Uh, it's just 1:28:21.479 --> 1:28:23.320 it's one of these things where you've seen the ads 1:28:23.360 --> 1:28:27.080 on the billboard, and I guess my thing is that, yes, 1:28:27.120 --> 1:28:29.439 this is if you want to if your only mission 1:28:29.520 --> 1:28:33.320 is to protect your your browsing privacy, like you want 1:28:33.360 --> 1:28:35.720 to get on the web and not be tracked and 1:28:35.760 --> 1:28:37.519 not you know, you don't want anyone to know what 1:28:37.560 --> 1:28:40.000 you're doing on there. Now, I say that with a 1:28:40.040 --> 1:28:44.519 caveat there's always like your internet service provider, your work, 1:28:44.960 --> 1:28:48.519 your school, they will probably know what you're doing on 1:28:48.560 --> 1:28:51.320 your computer at all times. So just be aware of that. 1:28:51.400 --> 1:28:54.360 Nothing is truly private when you're online. I mean, there's 1:28:54.400 --> 1:28:57.040 ways to make it that way, but it's very, very 1:28:57.080 --> 1:28:59.360 tricky for the average person. It's not something where you 1:28:59.400 --> 1:29:03.040 can just you know, you know, log on and make 1:29:03.080 --> 1:29:07.760 it easy. So, but this browser does have over a 1:29:07.840 --> 1:29:11.880 dozen different privacy protections built in. They have a whole 1:29:11.920 --> 1:29:17.479 website dedicated to how they protect you. Third party tracker 1:29:17.560 --> 1:29:22.040 loading protection, Global privacy control, link tracking protection, CE name 1:29:22.160 --> 1:29:27.040 cloaking protection, Google AMP protection. They basically try to make 1:29:27.080 --> 1:29:29.439 sure that when you are surfing the web, all the 1:29:29.439 --> 1:29:31.960 ways that these companies try to latch on to the 1:29:32.080 --> 1:29:35.040 data and the trackers and to see what you're doing, 1:29:35.439 --> 1:29:38.679 they try to stop that from happening. And so, yes, 1:29:38.880 --> 1:29:41.080 they do that, and they do a pretty good job 1:29:41.160 --> 1:29:45.360 of it. But the search results that you get may 1:29:45.400 --> 1:29:47.559 not be as good as Google. That's the main thing 1:29:49.080 --> 1:29:54.240 you are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to 1:29:54.640 --> 1:29:57.160 rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you 1:29:57.920 --> 1:30:01.280 talking technology at Triple A rich one on one eight 1:30:01.320 --> 1:30:06.000 eight eight seven four to two four one zero one, 1:30:06.640 --> 1:30:10.800 the website, rich on tech dot TV. If you want 1:30:10.840 --> 1:30:14.639 to contact me, just hit the contact link and we'll 1:30:14.640 --> 1:30:18.280 get to the feedback segment in just a bit. There's 1:30:18.320 --> 1:30:21.040 an app called Together. I've talked about this app for 1:30:21.080 --> 1:30:22.880 a little bit here on the show. We did an 1:30:22.880 --> 1:30:27.519 interview with the doctor that doctor Rene Dua, that invented it. 1:30:28.000 --> 1:30:31.680 She's also the doctor behind Heel, which was still is 1:30:32.680 --> 1:30:35.880 doctor on demand service kind of came up big during 1:30:35.880 --> 1:30:39.680 the pandemic. But she has an app called Together, and 1:30:39.720 --> 1:30:41.960 this is an app that uses AI to scan pill 1:30:42.000 --> 1:30:45.800 bottles and also help you keep all of your health 1:30:45.800 --> 1:30:48.439 information in one place. And it's really helpful if you 1:30:48.479 --> 1:30:52.280 are assisting someone like a family member or a loved 1:30:52.280 --> 1:30:55.360 one with their medications and their appointments and you're trying 1:30:55.360 --> 1:30:57.760 to keep track of all this. It's like a shared experience, 1:30:57.840 --> 1:31:02.280 so of course with their mission, but this app, you know, 1:31:02.400 --> 1:31:04.920 it not only keeps track of all the medications, but 1:31:05.000 --> 1:31:07.840 it provides all these health related insights. So you can 1:31:08.000 --> 1:31:10.559 take a selfie with this app, and this might ring 1:31:10.560 --> 1:31:13.679 a bell. It can help figure out your blood pressure, 1:31:13.720 --> 1:31:16.360 your heart rate, your oxygen levels. And now they've added 1:31:16.400 --> 1:31:19.479 a new feature where you can speak into the app 1:31:19.520 --> 1:31:23.120 and it will detect signs of anxiety and depression. So 1:31:23.240 --> 1:31:25.880 you speak for about thirty seconds, you say whatever you want, 1:31:25.960 --> 1:31:28.240 and it will tell you if there's any sign of 1:31:28.240 --> 1:31:31.040 anxiety or depression. I tried it out and I'm happy 1:31:31.040 --> 1:31:33.959 to report that I did not show any signs, thankfully, 1:31:35.479 --> 1:31:37.800 But it's serious if you do, and you know, and 1:31:37.840 --> 1:31:39.720 we need to be more honest about this stuff. And 1:31:39.760 --> 1:31:42.360 I think that we need to be more accepting of 1:31:42.400 --> 1:31:45.080 this stuff. And so by having an app like this 1:31:45.120 --> 1:31:47.439 where you can just speak into it and see this, 1:31:47.520 --> 1:31:51.080 it's it's pretty interesting. So it is available on iOS 1:31:51.160 --> 1:31:54.759 right now. It's called Together by Renee, and they told 1:31:54.760 --> 1:31:58.240 me that the Android version is launching on February fifth, 1:31:58.600 --> 1:32:01.040 So I know many people have been waiting for the 1:32:01.040 --> 1:32:04.479 Android version. It will be available on February fifth. It's 1:32:04.479 --> 1:32:06.599 been a little delay in that, but it is now 1:32:06.640 --> 1:32:10.320 going to be there, so iOS android Together by Renee. 1:32:10.560 --> 1:32:12.600 It is a free app that can really help you 1:32:12.680 --> 1:32:17.920 take charge of your medical situation. Speaking of medical joining 1:32:17.920 --> 1:32:22.000 me now is Robin Gelbert, president of fair Health. They 1:32:22.040 --> 1:32:25.400 have a new tool that can help you figure out 1:32:26.560 --> 1:32:29.200 how much a medical procedure is going to cost by 1:32:29.280 --> 1:32:32.200 using a map of the body. Robin, thanks for joining 1:32:32.200 --> 1:32:32.599 me today. 1:32:33.400 --> 1:32:35.080 Well, thank you so much for having us. 1:32:35.520 --> 1:32:37.160 So tell me what fair Health is. 1:32:37.880 --> 1:32:39.640 First off, So fair Health. 1:32:39.520 --> 1:32:44.840 Is independent, not for profit organization and we really have 1:32:45.640 --> 1:32:49.439 elevating health insurance literacy around the country as well as 1:32:49.479 --> 1:32:52.360 pulling back the window and the curtains, if you will, 1:32:52.800 --> 1:32:56.280 on healthcare costs. That has been so mystifying to many 1:32:56.760 --> 1:32:59.759 and to help people plan and just become more informed 1:32:59.760 --> 1:33:04.479 than confident as they navigate this very complex healthcare system and. 1:33:04.439 --> 1:33:06.479 Where you're breaking up just a little bit, so if 1:33:06.520 --> 1:33:08.160 you have a place where you can move, that might 1:33:08.200 --> 1:33:10.280 get a better signal. Try to do that in the meantime. 1:33:10.280 --> 1:33:13.880 But I will tell you how in my experience medical 1:33:14.880 --> 1:33:18.439 medical billing works. You go to the doctor, they do whatever, 1:33:19.120 --> 1:33:21.719 You come home. Six weeks later, you get a bill 1:33:21.800 --> 1:33:23.960 and you have no idea how much that's going to be. 1:33:24.240 --> 1:33:26.200 Is that pretty much how most people deal with it. 1:33:27.120 --> 1:33:30.519 I would say that's exactly right. People get their bills 1:33:30.600 --> 1:33:33.000 or they get their explanation of benefits, and they have 1:33:33.120 --> 1:33:36.360 no idea how to evaluate it, whether to ask questions, 1:33:36.720 --> 1:33:40.479 whether to negotiate on behalf of themselves, and to really 1:33:40.680 --> 1:33:43.600 just be a better advocate as they really try to 1:33:43.640 --> 1:33:48.040 deal with these very costly procedures and understand what their 1:33:48.080 --> 1:33:51.479 journey has been. So, as you mentioned, we did try 1:33:51.520 --> 1:33:55.759 to add a body procedure locator that adds yet another 1:33:55.960 --> 1:34:00.200 avenue to get to the information you need, another way 1:34:00.720 --> 1:34:04.040 of really experiencing that journey, in addition to looking at 1:34:04.320 --> 1:34:06.400 other kinds of tools on our website. 1:34:06.880 --> 1:34:11.040 So explain to me this body procedure locator. So it's 1:34:11.040 --> 1:34:14.280 basically a map of the body and you kind of 1:34:14.320 --> 1:34:17.000 point to the well. First you go through a couple 1:34:17.000 --> 1:34:19.800 of questions are you in network? Are you out of network? 1:34:20.200 --> 1:34:24.639 And then it gets finally to the body part like tool, 1:34:25.400 --> 1:34:27.599 It asks your location, I'm gonna I'm just doing this 1:34:27.640 --> 1:34:30.400 in live time real quick to kind of see okay, 1:34:30.400 --> 1:34:32.120 and then it pops up and so you've got head, 1:34:32.400 --> 1:34:38.719 spine and spinal cords, skin, chest, abdomen extremities and joints. 1:34:38.720 --> 1:34:41.400 So you basically go through and you just look at 1:34:41.400 --> 1:34:44.280 the picture and if you're getting a procedure with your shoulder. 1:34:44.320 --> 1:34:48.280 You tap shoulder and it tells you casts imaging, injections, 1:34:48.400 --> 1:34:51.599 orthotic surgery, and then it will tell you how much 1:34:52.120 --> 1:34:54.920 these things may cost. And it also gives you what 1:34:54.920 --> 1:34:58.360 it was called a CPT code. So explain what the 1:34:58.400 --> 1:34:59.479 purpose of all this is. 1:35:01.040 --> 1:35:04.120 All of this is to basically virtually hold you by 1:35:04.160 --> 1:35:07.320 the hand and walk you through this healthcare journey. As 1:35:07.400 --> 1:35:11.679 you mentioned, we have high level categories like spine, skin, chests, 1:35:11.720 --> 1:35:15.200 and so forth, Extremities and joints for example, you click 1:35:15.280 --> 1:35:18.280 on that and then it takes you slightly deeper into 1:35:18.320 --> 1:35:22.360 those extremities and joints, just as an example, to arm, hip, ankle, 1:35:22.640 --> 1:35:25.960 shoulder for example. Then you click on that where you 1:35:26.040 --> 1:35:29.280 may be interested in learning more about your medical procedure 1:35:29.800 --> 1:35:32.559 than it takes you deeper into those procedures. As you mentioned, 1:35:33.040 --> 1:35:36.760 it's codes, which are the official codes that all doctors 1:35:36.840 --> 1:35:39.840 are required to build you at that level. And so 1:35:39.920 --> 1:35:43.720 we try to provide a consumer friendly description of those 1:35:43.760 --> 1:35:47.120 procedure codes and then take you to the cost information. 1:35:47.880 --> 1:35:51.200 And what's really unique about fear help consumer dot org 1:35:51.600 --> 1:35:55.599 it's not just the one way to learn costs because 1:35:55.640 --> 1:35:58.840 there are many different venues of care where you can go. 1:35:59.000 --> 1:36:02.959 You can tell health to examine or to explore your procedure. 1:36:03.080 --> 1:36:06.160 You could be going to a retail clinic and urgent 1:36:06.200 --> 1:36:10.400 care center or a doctor's office. Costs differ depending on 1:36:10.439 --> 1:36:13.479 where you present yourself. So really it's just a welcome 1:36:13.520 --> 1:36:16.080 that and as it as sort of a virtual handholding 1:36:16.120 --> 1:36:22.519 experience to really take very complex information and to really 1:36:22.560 --> 1:36:25.360 eliminate all of the anxiety people have when they help, 1:36:25.439 --> 1:36:28.080 you know, really when they enter the healthcare insurance and 1:36:28.160 --> 1:36:29.040 the healthcare world. 1:36:29.600 --> 1:36:33.360 The website is fairhealth consumer dot org. So once you 1:36:33.479 --> 1:36:36.679 get to the final page, it'll give you the cost 1:36:36.960 --> 1:36:39.360 out of network. In network, it'll give you all the 1:36:39.400 --> 1:36:43.160 different like related things like if you need anesthesia or 1:36:44.000 --> 1:36:46.439 radiology or anything like that, so you can see the 1:36:46.479 --> 1:36:49.040 price of all that stuff. It gives you some local 1:36:49.040 --> 1:36:51.160 price comparisons, so if you put in your zip code, 1:36:51.200 --> 1:36:53.559 it'll tell you kind of like if you have the 1:36:53.600 --> 1:36:56.160 procedure done like right where you live or maybe a 1:36:56.280 --> 1:36:58.639 different section of town, it might be a different price. 1:37:00.000 --> 1:37:01.719 I'll tell you about it, and then it says questions 1:37:01.720 --> 1:37:05.639 to ask as well, So it's a really comprehensive kind 1:37:05.640 --> 1:37:07.400 of like all the stuff that you may not even 1:37:07.520 --> 1:37:10.240 think of when you're getting a procedure done. Do you 1:37:10.320 --> 1:37:14.200 think that there is room in the healthcare industry for 1:37:14.360 --> 1:37:19.080 more kind of transparency? 1:37:19.120 --> 1:37:21.800 And it's really more than transparency what we try to 1:37:21.840 --> 1:37:24.600 strive for and hopefully others will as well as clarity. 1:37:25.520 --> 1:37:29.120 Just transparently making information available is not enough. You have 1:37:29.200 --> 1:37:33.680 to connect it to context to really people the opportunity 1:37:33.720 --> 1:37:36.720 to understand what they're digesting and looking at. And yes, 1:37:37.160 --> 1:37:39.800 we're finding more and more people are becoming much more 1:37:39.840 --> 1:37:46.320 animated in their conversations and health plans and really trying 1:37:46.360 --> 1:37:51.520 to assert themselves in their vote, better understand and negotiate 1:37:51.600 --> 1:37:55.320 for themselves. So absolutely transparency is critical, but as I said, 1:37:55.600 --> 1:37:57.719 it really has to rise to the level of clarity. 1:37:58.200 --> 1:37:59.760 Sorry, I'm still getting a little bit of breakup in 1:37:59.760 --> 1:38:02.160 your saying such interesting stuff that I don't want. I 1:38:02.160 --> 1:38:05.639 don't want to miss anything that you're saying, but I'm curious. 1:38:05.680 --> 1:38:08.320 So my my thing with my uh, you know, any 1:38:08.360 --> 1:38:12.360 sort of medical bill that I get, I always call 1:38:12.560 --> 1:38:15.000 before I pay it and just make sure that it's 1:38:15.040 --> 1:38:19.479 the right amount, make sure that there's no changes. Is 1:38:19.479 --> 1:38:21.400 that the right thing to do? Should we be doing 1:38:21.439 --> 1:38:24.400 that or is that just more work for the doctor's office. 1:38:24.840 --> 1:38:29.320 No, you should be doing that that extra homework and 1:38:29.400 --> 1:38:34.519 asking them the important questions there as I said, because 1:38:34.600 --> 1:38:38.240 more information is being disseminated. So yes, people should feel 1:38:38.560 --> 1:38:42.120 empowered to do that and ask questions of their provider or. 1:38:44.760 --> 1:38:49.680 All right, Robin Gilbert of fair Health, definitely check out 1:38:49.760 --> 1:38:52.360 the tool, check out the website a lot of information 1:38:52.439 --> 1:38:56.120 on their fairhealth consumer dot org. Thanks so much for 1:38:56.200 --> 1:38:56.840 joining me today. 1:38:57.720 --> 1:38:58.680 You're welcome. Thank you. 1:38:59.160 --> 1:39:02.240 This is a really like I said, and here's my 1:39:02.320 --> 1:39:07.040 biggest issue with the payment websites of every almost every 1:39:07.080 --> 1:39:09.759 doctor number one, there's not an easy way to pay. 1:39:10.040 --> 1:39:11.719 And I'll give you a little hint. There's an app 1:39:11.760 --> 1:39:18.120 called Papaya pap a Ya Papaya Payments, and this app 1:39:18.200 --> 1:39:21.920 is incredible because you basically scan any medical bill that 1:39:21.960 --> 1:39:24.320 you have with this app and it will help you 1:39:24.400 --> 1:39:27.920 pay that bill. It's really really good and it's I 1:39:28.040 --> 1:39:30.439 use it all the time. It is incredible. I've done 1:39:30.479 --> 1:39:33.240 a story with them and it's legit and it works. 1:39:33.280 --> 1:39:37.559 So Papaya, just like the fruit Papaya pay dot com 1:39:37.920 --> 1:39:41.639 I find is incredible. But here's my advice. Don't pay 1:39:41.800 --> 1:39:46.479 medical bills before you call, because sometimes there is a 1:39:46.640 --> 1:39:49.240 change in the time that they printed that bill and 1:39:49.280 --> 1:39:51.800 the time that you get it. Your insurance might have 1:39:51.880 --> 1:39:54.280 paid an additional amount, they might have written off some 1:39:54.360 --> 1:39:56.960 of the amount that you might have to pay. So 1:39:57.240 --> 1:40:00.200 always call your doctor and make sure that the amount 1:40:00.240 --> 1:40:03.160 is right. I know it's a pain because sometimes it's 1:40:03.200 --> 1:40:06.960 tough to get through or sometimes it's tough to find 1:40:06.960 --> 1:40:09.120 the time to do that, but it really does help. 1:40:09.479 --> 1:40:10.920 The other thing is that when you go to the 1:40:10.920 --> 1:40:14.840 website for like ninety nine percent of medical bills, they 1:40:14.840 --> 1:40:17.519 don't tell you how much you owe. They will let 1:40:17.560 --> 1:40:19.720 you go to the website and pay the bill, but 1:40:19.880 --> 1:40:21.840 it's on you to type in the amount that you 1:40:21.880 --> 1:40:24.080 want to pay. And I find that to be really 1:40:24.120 --> 1:40:26.880 odd because almost any other bill that you pay in America, 1:40:27.640 --> 1:40:29.720 they show you the total, like they show you how 1:40:29.800 --> 1:40:32.759 much you owe, But for some reason, with medical billing, 1:40:33.160 --> 1:40:35.160 they say, okay, now, type in the amount you want 1:40:35.160 --> 1:40:38.320 to pay now. Maybe that's because people do partial payments 1:40:38.360 --> 1:40:40.840 all the time. They do what they can afford, so 1:40:40.920 --> 1:40:42.880 maybe that's part of it. But it would be nice 1:40:42.920 --> 1:40:44.920 if there was some sort of standard where they had 1:40:44.960 --> 1:40:48.040 to show you what the current amount of that bill was. 1:40:48.240 --> 1:40:50.240 Doesn't seem to happen, but at the end of the day, 1:40:50.240 --> 1:40:51.840 when you are ready to pay, I do like this 1:40:51.880 --> 1:40:54.479 app Papaya Pay. It is very handy. I'll put the 1:40:54.520 --> 1:40:58.160 link on the website rich on Tech dot tv again, 1:40:58.240 --> 1:41:04.240 the website for the the Body Part Indicator, Fairhealthconsumer dot Org. Ah. 1:41:04.280 --> 1:41:06.120 This is why I love this show. I love just 1:41:06.160 --> 1:41:08.880 getting this great information out there to help you and 1:41:08.880 --> 1:41:11.679 then to empower you as a consumer when it comes 1:41:11.680 --> 1:41:14.479 to all of this tech stuff. Coming up next, we'll 1:41:14.520 --> 1:41:19.320 do some more news and the feedback segment coming up 1:41:19.360 --> 1:41:26.559 right here on rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich 1:41:26.640 --> 1:41:30.759 on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, giving 1:41:30.840 --> 1:41:34.040 you the tech news and information you need to know 1:41:34.160 --> 1:41:38.080 to feel smart and really empowered with all this stuff, 1:41:38.120 --> 1:41:41.559 because it is it is not easy to navigate this 1:41:41.640 --> 1:41:43.960 world we live in, and I'm telling you, with the 1:41:44.000 --> 1:41:47.559 scam artist around every corner, it's just getting trickier and trickier. 1:41:47.600 --> 1:41:50.639 So I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're learning. Let's 1:41:50.680 --> 1:41:52.840 get through a few news topics before I get to 1:41:52.880 --> 1:41:56.960 the feedback segment. Yelp has a new feature, AI powered 1:41:57.040 --> 1:42:00.960 Business Summaries. This is gonna show you the insights you 1:42:01.000 --> 1:42:03.280 need to know about a business. So it's gonna show 1:42:03.280 --> 1:42:06.360 you things like the atmosphere, the service, the amenities, the 1:42:06.439 --> 1:42:11.559 value or a popular dish. It's AI powered Business Summaries 1:42:11.600 --> 1:42:13.840 are available on iOS now. They're gonna roll out to 1:42:13.840 --> 1:42:17.160 Android and desktop later this year. That is brilliant because 1:42:17.200 --> 1:42:19.080 if you go look up a place on Yelp and 1:42:19.080 --> 1:42:21.439 it says, oh, this place is known for their you know, 1:42:22.080 --> 1:42:26.120 certain fish dish or whatever, their dessert, their cinmon role, 1:42:26.479 --> 1:42:29.639 It's like, oh, that's what I wanted to know. Brilliant 1:42:29.640 --> 1:42:34.360 feature there. We're seeing AI everywhere. TikTok is removing Universal 1:42:34.479 --> 1:42:38.240 Music after their licensing deal expired. TikTok has removed all 1:42:38.320 --> 1:42:42.040 music from Universal Music Group. The deal expired January thirty first. 1:42:42.120 --> 1:42:45.280 This affects artists like Taylor Swift, Bad Bunny, Billie Eilish, 1:42:45.320 --> 1:42:50.040 Ariana Grande, Justin Bieber. Universal says TikTok is not properly 1:42:50.080 --> 1:42:55.160 compensating artists. TikTok says Universal is greedy. Yeah, two big 1:42:55.160 --> 1:42:58.080 companies with a lot of money fighting. There's something new. 1:42:58.880 --> 1:43:01.240 So if you had one of these songs on your 1:43:01.240 --> 1:43:04.960 TikTok it's muted. At this point, Fossil is getting out 1:43:04.960 --> 1:43:08.040 of the smart watch business. The last watch they launched 1:43:08.120 --> 1:43:10.240 was in twenty twenty one. It was the Gen six. 1:43:10.720 --> 1:43:13.479 If you have a Fossil smart watch, they will continue 1:43:13.479 --> 1:43:17.400 to provide software updates for existing users for quote the 1:43:17.439 --> 1:43:23.000 next few years. Ford is giving away free Tesla chargers 1:43:24.200 --> 1:43:27.120 for their EV buyers. They're going to give free adapters 1:43:27.600 --> 1:43:30.439 to its EV buyers so they can use Tesla's charging network. 1:43:30.479 --> 1:43:34.960 This was announced by the Ford CEO model you're twenty 1:43:35.000 --> 1:43:37.760 twenty one to twenty twenty four Mustang Mock E and 1:43:37.960 --> 1:43:40.240 F one fifty lightning vehicles are going to get the 1:43:40.320 --> 1:43:44.040 free adapter. This is huge. If you own a Ford 1:43:44.600 --> 1:43:47.519 and you can now charge on Tesla's network, it is 1:43:48.080 --> 1:43:52.439 a game changer. This is so amazing. They didn't say 1:43:52.439 --> 1:43:54.840 when this is going to happen, but very soon. So 1:43:55.840 --> 1:43:57.600 we're going to start seeing a lot more people at 1:43:57.600 --> 1:44:00.800 the Tesla chargers, that's for sure. But pretty much every 1:44:00.840 --> 1:44:05.799 major automaker has pledged support for this Tesla charging standard, 1:44:05.840 --> 1:44:08.160 which they invented. They now call it the North American 1:44:08.240 --> 1:44:11.880 Charging Standard because it pretty much is so Tesla dominates. 1:44:11.880 --> 1:44:13.400 But the fact that if you bought a ford in 1:44:13.439 --> 1:44:16.920 the past three four years, Ford ev you're gonna get 1:44:16.920 --> 1:44:20.479 one of these adapters. That is incredible. Speaking of Tesla 1:44:21.120 --> 1:44:26.320 recalling two million vehicles, Oh my gosh, that sounds scary. 1:44:26.520 --> 1:44:28.400 That was the headline in the Wall Street Journal, among 1:44:28.439 --> 1:44:31.360 many others. But guess what the fix is a software 1:44:31.439 --> 1:44:35.080 update that probably already reached most Teslas. Yeah, this is 1:44:35.080 --> 1:44:39.080 getting out of control. Every time Tesla has a software update, Recall, 1:44:39.920 --> 1:44:43.519 it's a big headline on all the news places and 1:44:43.560 --> 1:44:45.799 then if you read it, it says, oh, it's a software update. 1:44:46.160 --> 1:44:50.280 So tech Crunch as well as myself, believes that we 1:44:50.360 --> 1:44:52.599 need to come up with a new word instead of safety. 1:44:52.640 --> 1:44:55.760 Recall that was when it was a car that had 1:44:55.760 --> 1:44:58.760 a gas engine. They need to replace something on that car, 1:44:58.960 --> 1:45:02.200 fix something, tweak something. When it's a software update, it 1:45:02.280 --> 1:45:05.439 sounds really scary and people get very concerned. But if 1:45:05.479 --> 1:45:08.160 you're talking a software update. For this one, it was 1:45:08.200 --> 1:45:11.479 a font size. They had to change the font on 1:45:11.520 --> 1:45:15.080 some of the visuals, the warning indicators. So we need 1:45:15.120 --> 1:45:17.519 a new word for this new new world we live 1:45:17.520 --> 1:45:22.360 in of software updates for evs because recall sounds very 1:45:22.400 --> 1:45:25.560 scary and it gets people necessarily up in arm unnecessarily 1:45:25.640 --> 1:45:30.920 up in arms. Bard can now generate AI images. If 1:45:30.960 --> 1:45:33.200 you go to Bard dot Google dot com, you can 1:45:33.200 --> 1:45:34.800 type in what you want it to make an image 1:45:34.840 --> 1:45:38.360 of and it will make two images. If you want more, 1:45:38.439 --> 1:45:41.479 it'll do that too. This is completely free, so use 1:45:41.479 --> 1:45:43.880 your imagination. You can use this to make all kinds 1:45:43.920 --> 1:45:48.040 of cool images and they're very realistic. So Bard dot 1:45:48.120 --> 1:45:50.960 Google dot com you can now ask it to make images. 1:45:51.040 --> 1:45:55.559 Google is really soup and up it's AI. And Filo 1:45:55.840 --> 1:45:59.559 now available on Visio smart TVs. Filo is a very 1:45:59.600 --> 1:46:04.120 inexpensive streaming service. They focus on sort of entertainment options. 1:46:04.160 --> 1:46:06.920 They sort of stay away from the sports because that's expensive. 1:46:07.439 --> 1:46:09.240 So I think their plans start at twenty five bucks 1:46:09.280 --> 1:46:12.640 a month for seventy channels plus a DVR. If you 1:46:12.680 --> 1:46:15.599 have a visiotv you can just find the Filo app 1:46:15.640 --> 1:46:19.040 on there. It is now available on the Visio smart TVs. 1:46:19.640 --> 1:46:24.040 And finally, did I already say finally, there's a new 1:46:24.080 --> 1:46:27.559 app for the iPhone called arc Search by the browser company. 1:46:27.600 --> 1:46:30.280 I told you about Perplexity AI. A couple of weeks ago. 1:46:30.680 --> 1:46:33.680 This is similar. Basically, they do a thing where they 1:46:33.680 --> 1:46:36.680 will use AI to search for you. So if you 1:46:36.720 --> 1:46:38.880 type in a topic, you say search for me, or 1:46:38.920 --> 1:46:40.800 come up with a whole page with a summary of 1:46:40.800 --> 1:46:45.439 that whole topic. It's called arc search arc search by 1:46:45.439 --> 1:46:48.639 the browser company. It's a really cool way of searching 1:46:48.640 --> 1:46:51.919 the Internet. That's different. They still do the standard Google searches, 1:46:51.920 --> 1:46:54.559 but this is a new way to search. I also 1:46:54.640 --> 1:46:58.200 love Perplexity. Perplexity AI is the app that I've been 1:46:58.280 --> 1:47:01.759 using a lot more so instead of going to Google 1:47:01.800 --> 1:47:04.840 for something, I would just go to Perplexity and type 1:47:04.880 --> 1:47:07.000 in a name or something or a place, and it 1:47:07.000 --> 1:47:09.360 will give me like a whole almost like a book 1:47:09.360 --> 1:47:11.960 report you would do back in the day, but it's 1:47:12.080 --> 1:47:15.800 coming up with everything on the fly. Feedback time. Gilbert says, 1:47:15.840 --> 1:47:18.000 love your podcast. Rich on Tech is a great follow 1:47:18.080 --> 1:47:20.080 up to Leo. I feel sorry for the guy in 1:47:20.160 --> 1:47:23.160 last week's show who fell asleep and accidentally bought courtside 1:47:23.240 --> 1:47:27.040 Laker seats. You should play Steve Goodman's vegimatic song for him. 1:47:27.160 --> 1:47:29.320 Keep up the good work. I'm not familiar with that song, 1:47:29.360 --> 1:47:35.840 but thank you, Gilbert. Let's see let's see what else here? Oh. 1:47:36.160 --> 1:47:38.920 Neil says, Hey Rich, I loved yesterday's show. Your guests 1:47:38.920 --> 1:47:41.599 have been very good at making the topics understandable yet 1:47:41.640 --> 1:47:44.639 covering what we need to know. Your brother's radio persona 1:47:44.720 --> 1:47:46.960 was excellent. I bet your parents are pretty cool. Thanks 1:47:47.040 --> 1:47:50.840 for your great service. Neil from Ohio. Neil, I know 1:47:51.120 --> 1:47:54.400 is a listener that I like. Hey Rich, Kevin says, 1:47:54.439 --> 1:47:56.320 I enjoy your show whenever I get a chance to listen, 1:47:56.400 --> 1:47:58.439 and mainly for the help you give to older ones. 1:47:58.960 --> 1:48:01.200 One thing people can do on Windows is to create 1:48:01.240 --> 1:48:03.680 a restore point before an update, just in case the 1:48:03.720 --> 1:48:06.880 update goes heywire. That way it can be easily reversed. 1:48:07.240 --> 1:48:10.920 Good job on the show. Thank you, Kevin. That's gonna 1:48:10.960 --> 1:48:12.479 do it for this episode. You can find links to 1:48:12.479 --> 1:48:15.120 everything I mentioned on the website. Just go to richontech 1:48:15.240 --> 1:48:17.760 dot tv. You can find me on social media. I 1:48:17.840 --> 1:48:20.800 am at rich on Tech. Next week I'm headed to 1:48:20.840 --> 1:48:23.559 the Chicago Auto Show, so I'll tell you all about 1:48:23.560 --> 1:48:25.760 the cool stuff I see there. Thank you so much 1:48:25.760 --> 1:48:27.760 for listening. There are so many ways you can spend 1:48:27.800 --> 1:48:30.439 your time. I do appreciate you spending it right here 1:48:30.479 --> 1:48:33.000 with me. My name is rich Demiro. I will talk 1:48:33.040 --> 1:48:34.000 to you real soon