1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: The Fields Auto Group proudly presents Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks, 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: JP Shadrick, John Oser and NFL Network analyst and former 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest on your Jacksonville Jackwars. 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: We're not done. We're going to continue to work to 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: build this team to make. 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: His as potent as we can going into the regular season. 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks starts right now. 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 3: Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast. It is Wednesday, May seventeenth. 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 3: JP Shadwick with NFL Network analyst Bucky Brooks and Jaguars 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 3: dot Com senior writer John Oser. Give us a listen 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: on the podcast page at Jaguars dot com or on 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: the official Jaguars podcast network. That's on iHeartRadio, iTunes, Spotify, 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 3: or wherever you get your podcasts. And here we go. 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 3: It's the final week of phase number two of the 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: offseason program, the Rookie Mini Campus. In the rearview, the 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: schedule is out. 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: It's mid May. 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: John, the calendar keeps on turning, and the NFL calendar 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: certainly is nearly year round. 20 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 4: Now we have four weeks. Ota is coming up and 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 4: I can't wait. It's it's gonna be awesome. And as 22 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 4: much as that kid about ot as, the next four 23 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 4: weeks are the meat of the offseason program. I don't 24 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 4: know if Doug will have veterans in on the on 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 4: the May, on the June mini camp at the end. 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 4: My sense is if if all goes well, he won't 27 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 4: and it'll be more of a rookie reset. 28 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 5: But we'll see. 29 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 4: And we got four weeks and I think what those 30 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 4: three are open and three OTAs are open, So we 31 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 4: got there six times and we'll glean what we can 32 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 4: Bucky yah know. 33 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 6: And the one thing about like the mini camps and 34 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 6: we kid, but the mini camps are an orientation for players, 35 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 6: for the rookies, for the new players to the team, 36 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 6: to kind of get up to speed in terms of 37 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 6: like how Doug Peterson and the Jaguars get down when 38 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 6: it comes to practice, what the expectations are, the flow 39 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 6: to and from in and out of practice, what the 40 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 6: expectations are with drills, while also learning the schemes and 41 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 6: tactics on both sides of the ball. When you bring 42 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 6: the veterans back, it ups to Andy a little bit. 43 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 6: It raises the level of intensity. 44 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 7: It should raise the level of execution because you have 45 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 7: guys that are very comfortable in the system and so 46 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 7: what you're looking for from the outside end, it's practice, 47 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 7: but this should be a certain feel to it. 48 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 6: Offensively, the balls shouldn't hit the ground when you're throwing 49 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 6: the ball all over the yard. It should be rare 50 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 6: that Trevor has incompletions better yet even interceptions. Because the 51 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 6: execution should be at an even higher level than we 52 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 6: saw last year. You would like to see the team 53 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 6: kind of pick up where it left off at the 54 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 6: end of the year, following like a couple of playoff games. 55 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, make no mistake, I don't discount their importance to 56 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 4: the players involved. I discount their importance to me and JP. 57 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 4: I'm all about me. 58 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 3: It's all about John. If you didn't know, you're gonna 59 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 3: find out well. 60 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 4: And I absolutely agree with Bucky in OTA's this this month. Offensively, 61 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 4: particularly on days where Christian Kirk, Zay Jones, Ridley, where 62 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 4: they're all there, you do expect to see a lot 63 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 4: of days where they look like a fine tune machine, 64 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: and that is what you look for on any specific day, 65 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: or you worried if there's a pick, if they're trying 66 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 4: something New My think with OTA's is always that's the 67 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 4: time where teams should be going through their rough drafts 68 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 4: a little bit and trying to figure out what's working 69 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: and not. So to get all upset if Trevor throws 70 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: two picks. 71 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 5: Hold the phone a little bit. 72 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 4: I had one question this week in the ozone. Hey, 73 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: I hear Kevin Austin looked I'm not knocking Kevin Austin. 74 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 4: I'm just out of a name. I hear Kevin Austin 75 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 4: and the two receivers looked great this weekend. Do you 76 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 4: think they'll make the team and one of them pushes 77 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 4: a Jones? No, I don't think anyonere gonna push the 78 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 4: A Jones, certainly not based on a rookie minicamp. 79 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: So that's my. 80 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: Push to be involved in the practice squad and maybe 81 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: contribute somehow. 82 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: But right, but they're not pushing the Yeah. 83 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 4: Let's just remember what this is and they're not going 84 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 4: to push his A Jones If if they caught a 85 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 4: touchdown pass from Nathan Rohard. 86 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it's not going to be that part of it. 87 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 6: I would think that the veterans would get a lot 88 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 6: of reps early. They kind of Taylor it back unless 89 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 6: some of the young guys get up to speed. I 90 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 6: think we can confidently say those first four guys we're 91 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 6: talking about, Kirk Ingram, Ridley, Jones, those guys are going 92 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 6: to be there, So we already kind of know what 93 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 6: the A group is. Now, what you're doing trying to 94 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 6: do is you're trying to find how does Jamal Agnew 95 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 6: fit into the mix in terms of are there special 96 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 6: plays for him that you can utilize? The change the 97 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 6: rotation Dennis, what does the rookie tied end look like 98 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 6: if we put them on the same field with Evan Ingram, 99 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 6: Are we able to maybe look at some different packages 100 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 6: with two tight ends on the field, two wide receivers, 101 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 6: that stuff. And so there'll be some experimentation to see 102 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 6: how wild Doug Peterson can get with the personnel groupings based. 103 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: On what people display during camp. 104 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 6: But yeah, when Trevor Lawrence is there is ay, let's 105 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 6: get the A team right. Make sure the A team 106 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 6: is on point, everyone understands everything, And really a lot 107 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 6: of it would be for Calvin Ridley making sure that 108 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 6: he is on the same page with the veterans. Make 109 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 6: sure those guys are good, get them off the field 110 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 6: and get the young guys up the snuff when it 111 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 6: comes to learning to playbook. 112 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: All right, that's coming up next week. Three OTAs will 113 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: be open to the media. That's number one on Monday, 114 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: number four on Tuesday, May thirtieth, number seven on Monday, 115 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 3: June fifth, and then of course the mandatory mini camp 116 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 3: as well. Now back to rookie mini camp, it's in 117 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: the books from Friday and Saturday. Anton Harrison, the Jaguars 118 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: first round draft pick, the tackle on the difference in 119 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: intensity even in a rookie camp setting. 120 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 8: It's definitely different. I say, it's more intense. You've got 121 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 8: it's a better higher level skill with a defense and 122 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 8: offense to higher just IQ everybody out there. So it's 123 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 8: definitely a higher intensity. 124 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 6: But I say, it's great to be out here, finally 125 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 6: back on the field, learning from the coaches and the 126 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 6: older guys. 127 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 8: So it's definitely good to be out here. 128 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: So he was mentioning dealing with the offensive line coach 129 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: and Phil Rauscher and the coaching stead. Just a different 130 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: field first time out there. So you know it will take, 131 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: as you said, Bucky, a step up a little bit 132 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 3: when the veterans are out there, with him. That changes 133 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: the whole dynamic when you're you're rolling out there with 134 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: the ten twelve guys that are on the roster right 135 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: now on the offensive line. 136 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, For the young guys, a lot of it is 137 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 6: learning how to practice, meaning learning how to go fast 138 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 6: but play under control where you don't hit the ground 139 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 6: so you can avoid the injuries. And so a lot 140 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 6: of that is you hear the coach is always talking about, hey, 141 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 6: stay up, stay up, don't hit the ground. 142 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: Good. 143 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, good players don't find themselves all on the ground. 144 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 6: They have body control. They avoid those unnecessary collisions. Because 145 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 6: the number one objective of this off seasons make sure 146 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 6: you get everybody out of it healthy. And then as 147 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 6: you're teaching them the pace and the urgency, you want 148 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 6: them to do that while being under control where they 149 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 6: take care of one another. And so for young guys 150 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 6: sometimes it can be hard, particularly for some of the 151 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 6: late round draft picks and the undrafted guys that are 152 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 6: really trying to. 153 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: Make a favorable impression. 154 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 6: You want those guys to play hard and give everything, 155 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 6: but you certainly don't want them to crash into one 156 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 6: of your more notable or more prominent players, because we 157 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 6: need to have everybody available. 158 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 4: Point at those guys and tell the young guys to 159 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: stay away from that, don't roll on that. I enjoy 160 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 4: talking to Bucky this kind of stuff because he has 161 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,119 Speaker 4: if you know it're not JP, he was a scout. 162 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 5: He scouted in this league. Yes you did, and you know, Bucky, 163 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 5: you sure can tell. I think. 164 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 4: The school that Trent Balkey came out of, and he 165 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 4: was on the Zone podcasts as we Can, talked about 166 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 4: this a little bit about you know, don't and I'm 167 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 4: drawing a blank on the phrase, but don't draft exceptions, 168 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 4: you know, because then you got a team of exceptions. 169 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: And that's if he believes in one thing in the draft. 170 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 4: That's sort of his deal. And when you look at Harrison, 171 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 4: when you look at the tight end, strange, when you 172 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 4: look at Bigsby, they are prototypical guys for their position. 173 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 5: They were the three that stood. 174 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 4: Out to me JP just when you look at them 175 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: on the field, they look the NFL part and strange 176 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 4: to me. Bucky really impressive guy physically. 177 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 178 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 6: So going back to what Trent Balky is talking about, 179 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 6: we kind of come from the same school because we 180 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 6: had our passed kind of intertwined when it comes to mentors. See, 181 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 6: he learned a lot from Bill Parson. Bill Parsales work 182 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 6: very closely with Ron Wolf when they were all together 183 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 6: with the Jets. 184 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: Ron Wolf goes to the Green Bay Packers. 185 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 6: I play for those guys, and I work for some 186 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 6: of his disciples in John Snyder and Scott mcclun and 187 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 6: those guys. And so when he talks about don't draft exceptions, 188 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 6: because ron Wolf used to always say, if you draft 189 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 6: an exception, or you make an exception to the prototype, 190 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 6: you'll end up having a team full of exceptions, because 191 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 6: you can talk yourself into you have really liked this player, 192 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 6: so we'll just make this special exception for him. And 193 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 6: so you just want to be careful when you're setting 194 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 6: your standards that, hey, these are the prototypes, these are 195 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 6: the guys that we look for. We want to have 196 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 6: a bigger, faster, stronger team, because there's a reason why 197 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 6: middleweights don't fight heavyweights. 198 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: We want to be heavyweight champs. 199 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 6: We want to have the biggest, fastest team because over 200 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 6: time we'll wear down little teams. 201 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: And so Balkey comes from that school of thought. 202 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 6: The other thing, when it comes to the guys that 203 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 6: you point to Harrison and Strange and those things like, 204 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 6: you want those guys to have the prototypical dimensions because 205 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 6: a lot of what you do as a scout is 206 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 6: you're trying to mitigate risks, and so you can never 207 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 6: guarantee one hundred percent that everybody that you bring into 208 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 6: the organization is going to fit. But if you can 209 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 6: look at a history or a study and say that, hey, 210 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 6: guys at this size with this weight, with this arm link, 211 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 6: more times than not they play in the league, where 212 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 6: you're now giving yourself a better pool to pull from 213 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 6: when it comes to guys that have realistic chances of 214 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 6: making the squad. And the final part of it is 215 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 6: another thing that you will see typically with the Jaguars 216 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 6: and with Baulkey, you won't see a lot. 217 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: Of small school guys. 218 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 6: Now, this is something that's kind of re emerging as 219 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 6: a trend in the National Football League. I think they 220 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 6: were only what is it twelve? Is either FBS is 221 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 6: a Football subdivision? JP knows that FCS whatever. 222 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: That yes, is the Football Championship Subdivision. That's the what 223 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: was the one double A before? 224 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 2: Yes? Oh so FCS, okay, so small. 225 00:10:54,400 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: Division one A FBS yes, yeah, so small school guys, well, 226 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 3: small school guys that were drafted in this year's draft. 227 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 6: And so if you look at it, the guys that 228 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 6: play in the National Football League, more times than not 229 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 6: they come from big school, Group of five, power five, 230 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,599 Speaker 6: whatever you say. The biggest and best schools are producing 231 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 6: the best talent that plays in the league. And so 232 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 6: normally you'll see teams not necessarily dismiss those guys, but 233 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 6: it would have to be someone who is exceptional to 234 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 6: be able to get on board. 235 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: And I think you'll. 236 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 6: See a lot of big school guys continue to make 237 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 6: this roster because those are some of the philosophies that 238 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 6: Bill Parcells, Brown Wolf and those guys believed in, and 239 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 6: Trim Balky is of this school of thought. 240 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 4: Now, Bucky, could that be a little and I don't 241 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 4: know this, I'm asking is the transfer portal? Are small 242 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 4: school guys transferring to big schools for better opportunity? Is 243 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 4: that weeding itself out before the draft? 244 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, that's now becoming the thing. 245 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 6: Unfortunately for some of the small schools, they're being treated 246 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 6: like Triple A farm systems, like Triple A minor league teams, 247 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 6: where hey, that's great, you played at a school, so 248 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 6: now you. 249 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: Get to graduate, come play with the big boys. 250 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 6: And so we have seen that kind of become increasingly 251 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 6: popular when you look at the draft classes. But yeah, 252 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 6: everything now is about big schools, and like it or not, 253 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 6: I would say that Ron Wolf talked about big schools. 254 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: I want to get. 255 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 6: The guys that have played in front of one hundred 256 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 6: thousand people with the band playing on national TV, because 257 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 6: that's as close as you can get to the NFL 258 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 6: at the collegiate level. And you may strike oil on 259 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 6: a guy who hasn't played in that environment, but the 260 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 6: odds say that, look, the best players are gonna come 261 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 6: from the best school, so you better. It's probably more effective, 262 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 6: cost efficient to spend your time mining those big schools 263 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 6: as opposed to looking for the hidden gym that may 264 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 6: be found elsewhere. 265 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 4: GM's like odds because over the course of ten years, 266 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 4: they like to increase their percentage of hitting, and over 267 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 4: time that keeps them employed. 268 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: Odd side note by the way, I met Bill Parcells 269 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: and Ron Wolf together in a booth at a Miami 270 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 3: Marlins spring training game in Jupiter, Florida about nine or 271 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: ten years ago, right after I started working here and 272 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: They were sitting at the booth next to me, and 273 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: the first question they asked was, how's Mike Perkins. 274 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, everybody knows. 275 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: Mike from Ray Perkins. 276 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 3: Yes, so it works. So huddle up podcast. Hey, let's 277 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: go to one of those big schools, Penn State. Brenton 278 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: Strange tight end and Bucky You talked about the idea 279 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 3: of two tight end sets and what this could do 280 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: for the Jaguars offense. They had a lot of three 281 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 3: tight end sets in Happy Valley. 282 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, when you have athletic tight ends such as like me, 283 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 9: Evan Luke and the rest of the guys in the 284 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 9: in the room, you can you can create a lot 285 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 9: of stress on the defense. It creates mismatches all over 286 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 9: across the field. And that's not only in the past game, 287 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 9: but also being able to go out there and run 288 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 9: an eleven play and use this and use it as 289 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 9: twelve personnel, but then the next play maybe do hurry 290 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 9: up or something and go out there and just and. 291 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 8: Run the ball. 292 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 9: So that's that's the luxury of having and great tight. 293 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 8: Ends in your room. 294 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 9: And like I was saying to him earlier, I just 295 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 9: I can't wait to get in here with the older 296 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 9: guys on Monday and learn from them and just pick 297 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 9: up all the little details and everything. 298 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 3: So Bucky, they run deep at the tight end position. 299 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 3: At Penn State, they had three guys that are going 300 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: to play in the NFL, Inculding Strange at some point, 301 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: and they utilize them all over the place. We talked 302 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 3: about that right after the draft. But his ability to 303 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 3: do that gives him a chance. His versatility will be key. 304 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: And in this offense, let's go back to that two 305 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: tight end set. If it sounds like he gets it too, 306 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 3: what this could mean. 307 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 6: Well, one thing very impressed with is overall intelligence and 308 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 6: football awareness and savvy in terms of being able to 309 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 6: take something that could be complex. When he talked about 310 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 6: two and three tight ends and make it very easy 311 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 6: for the listener to understand. To me, I think it 312 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 6: speaks volumes as to why the Jaguars might have liked him, 313 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 6: because when you have smart players, it does allow you 314 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 6: to do more stuff. 315 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,119 Speaker 2: And as he talks about the tight ends. 316 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 6: Being able to take Evan and Strang and put those 317 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 6: guys on the field and operate where you have spread formations, 318 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 6: but you have big personnel, how does the defense match 319 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 6: up to that, do you play your nickel package or 320 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 6: do you now play more of a base package, And 321 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 6: can you create a mismatch by having a lumbering linebacker 322 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 6: on the field with Evan Ingram, who's really a jumbo 323 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 6: wide receiver and the running game. 324 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: The mismatch is that he talks about. 325 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 6: When you put multiple tight ends on the field and 326 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 6: you put them attached to the attackle, you now create 327 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 6: an extra gap for the defense to defend. And depending 328 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 6: upon maybe you put both tight ends beside each other 329 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 6: on one side or opposite sides, it now forces the 330 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 6: defense out of its comfort zone because it may be 331 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 6: an unbalanced formation in terms of the symmetry isn't ideally 332 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 6: the same on both sides. And so you just want 333 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 6: to make sure that when you have those personnel maybe advantages, 334 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 6: that you take advantage of them. And so it's about 335 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 6: creating opportunities for Doug Peterson to be creative to continue 336 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 6: to put stress on the defense, not only with the 337 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 6: play calls, but with the personnel group is that you 338 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 6: put on the field. 339 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: Becky, I'm curious your thoughts on this. You had mentioned, 340 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 4: i think on a couple of these podcasts before that 341 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 4: you know because of the Jaguars wide receivers and probably 342 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 4: better than they had in Philly. You don't anticipate necessarily 343 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 4: that they'll play as many two tight end sets as 344 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: they did there. At the same time, how much of 345 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 4: them not using two tight end sets a lot last 346 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 4: year was because they feel like they didn't have the personnelity. 347 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: I guess what I'm getting at is, if they've got 348 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 4: these guys and if they like the packages with Ingram 349 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 4: and Strange, could you see a higher percentage of that scheme. 350 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 4: I guess it's a great problem to have, right, too 351 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 4: many options? 352 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think you do a bunch of creative things. 353 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 6: So for instance, you can talk about a sometimes you 354 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 6: want to have ace personnel, which would be two tight ends, 355 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 6: two our receivers, one back in that back could be 356 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 6: Travis it's the end. 357 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: You also could think. 358 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 6: About who could be the movable piece at wide receiver 359 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 6: that could go into backfield if you take Travis out. 360 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 6: So let's just say, for instance, you're trying to create 361 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 6: a mismatch or Kevin Ridley, So maybe you take Travis out, 362 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 6: you have the two tight ends, two wide receivers, and 363 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 6: then Calvin Ridley's in the backfield and then you motion 364 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 6: them out to dictate and create Oh. 365 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 2: Do you have Kevin Ridley on a linebacker? How do 366 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 2: you play that? 367 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 6: There are a lot of creative things that you can 368 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 6: do when you have great personnel, but personnel that are 369 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 6: really high football IQ guys, And so I think you'll 370 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 6: see some of that stuff maybe when we're not privy 371 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 6: to it. Doug Peterson and press tailoring those guys that 372 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 6: get in the lab and they'll do some funky formation 373 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 6: and funky groupings to see what sticks, and you'll see 374 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 6: them maybe periodically throw those things out throughout the course 375 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 6: of the regular season to create mismatches. 376 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 5: What a difference two years makes, JP. 377 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean, and. 378 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 4: I know we've said it on Huddle Up before the 379 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 4: personnel overturn and the fact that we're sitting here talking 380 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 4: about too many weapons, I'll just leave it at that. 381 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the ability to go use them, to be 382 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 3: able to scheme it up right and have that ability 383 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 3: it didn't exist right, how. 384 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 4: Go two tight ends until they go three wise, which 385 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 4: is bad. I mean, it's an incredible dialer that don't 386 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 4: overplay it, But as Bucky was talking, it just struck. 387 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 5: Me a boy, you know the moves and the approach. 388 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 3: We're talking about scoring thirty points a game now, I 389 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 3: mean come on, well. 390 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 6: Now, I mean that's a very realistic thing. And I 391 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 6: will say this before we get into the year. Jamal 392 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 6: Agnew could be the X factor when it comes to 393 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 6: the personnel stuff. Doug Peterson appeared to take a liking 394 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 6: to what he can add to the offense. We saw 395 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 6: him play more snaps on offense last year. Well, now, 396 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 6: just because Calvin Ridley comes doesn't mean that he's out 397 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 6: of the equation. It just becomes how how many different 398 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 6: packages can you put him in and remove people and 399 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 6: just create the dynamic. He becomes really a nice weapon. 400 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 6: So now you're right you talk about I don't want 401 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 6: to say like a plethora of weapons, but you certainly 402 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 6: have more weapons, more people that can do things with 403 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 6: the ball. That makes the game a lot easier for 404 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 6: the quarterback because he can just throw to the open 405 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 6: guy and know that that open man and make it 406 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 6: happen when he gets into space. 407 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a smidge of talk in the media 408 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 4: midway through US season. Late last season because of Jamal's 409 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 4: cap number, they might not be back and I floated 410 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 4: head to somebody late in the season and it looked 411 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 4: at him and like my head, you know, well because 412 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 4: the speedio no way, I mean a the punt returning, 413 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 4: the kick returning, but just the weapon that he had become. 414 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 4: And again I don't think that was ever really coming 415 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 4: from within the team anyway, but it was sort of 416 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 4: out there because people speculated on the cap. 417 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 5: But he's key GP. 418 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 3: He's got a skill set that not many have, certainly 419 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 3: in that return game as well. 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Well, Bucky, it's our first chance 438 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 3: to chat with you since the full schedule came out. 439 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: What do you think? I mean? 440 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 6: I thought, I mean, I like it and I like 441 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 6: the way it goes. Everyone normally likes their schedule just 442 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 6: because that's the way we optimistically always feel about our team. 443 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 6: But for the Jaguars, there's tremendous opportunity for this team 444 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 6: to do some of the things that Doug Peterson will 445 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 6: start talking to the team about the importance of not 446 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 6: only winning the division, but putting yourself in a position 447 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 6: and maybe you can talk about being the number one 448 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 6: overall seed, because if you're the number one seed two 449 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 6: games and then you're in the super Bowl, and so 450 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 6: that could be a. 451 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: Bit of the push. 452 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 6: The back to back London games could be advantageous for 453 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 6: the Jaguars depending on how they handle the travel stuff 454 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 6: because the franchise is going over there. Logistically, the Jaguars 455 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 6: know how to get the team over there getting prepared 456 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 6: to play play well. 457 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: Well. 458 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 6: Now you have back to back weeks, we have two 459 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 6: teams that are having to deal with maybe an uncomfortable environment, 460 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 6: something that's new to them, where the Jaguars could be 461 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 6: settled those two games. If the Jaguars are able to 462 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 6: really win both of those games, those two games can 463 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 6: be the difference between being maybe the top seed and 464 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 6: being the third or fourth seed in the tournament. 465 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: If you win a division, good early start could build 466 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: some momentum. 467 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: Well. 468 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 3: Doug Peterson at the start of rookie Minnie Camp was 469 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 3: asked about the expectations that are building around the twenty 470 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: twenty three Jaguars and how to manage them. 471 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 10: The expectation is to win, you know, and that was 472 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 10: our expectation last year. And even though parts of the 473 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 10: year weren't as good as other parts of the year, 474 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 10: you know, that's still that still has to be you know, priority, 475 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,959 Speaker 10: got to win football games in this league, and so 476 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 10: but listen, it's as you guys know, You've heard it 477 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 10: from me a million times. I mean, it's a one game, 478 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 10: it's one day, it's one player at a time. You know, 479 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 10: it's about the team, and we keep the team in 480 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 10: front and focused and and you know it's the main thing. 481 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 10: And you got to keep the main thing the main thing. 482 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 10: And but yet expectations are, you know, to. 483 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: Win games, to win. 484 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: The expectation is to win. But there is that process 485 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 3: to get there, and it takes day by day building 486 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 3: of players and scheme and you know you can't cheat it. 487 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 3: You got to go through all that process to get there. 488 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know why I don't. I don't worry 489 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 4: about this team, uh with a sophomore slump or whatever 490 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 4: you call it, that's not the right word for it. 491 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 4: But I get a lot of questions to people about 492 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 4: you know, now that teams know that they're coming, they'll 493 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 4: be prepared for them. 494 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 5: And I don't. 495 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 4: It didn't feel to me like their late season run 496 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 4: was built on teams not thinking the Jaguars were good. 497 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 5: I mean, did the Chargers not think the Jaguars were good? 498 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 4: They had already beat them by twenty two out there, 499 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 4: So I understand that being a theme in people talking about. 500 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 5: I don't think that'll be a factor for this team. 501 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 4: And I don't think this scene to me doesn't feel 502 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 4: like a team that thinks, oh well, we accomplished this 503 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: last year. Now we're set. I think the young players 504 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 4: in this team, in the core see last year as 505 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 4: a start, and I've got to believe that internally in 506 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 4: their gut, the goal this year is to join the 507 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 4: four or meaning make it Cincinnati, Buffalo, Kansas City, Jacksonville. 508 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 4: And there's more than that, obviously, but you know, I'm 509 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 4: getting that be one of those teams that's going to 510 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 4: be there. And so to me, those are the three 511 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 4: games this year, you know, in the regular season, when 512 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 4: you're looking at those are the ones people are going 513 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 4: to circle that in San Francisco, how do you do 514 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 4: against the Powers? 515 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, all this stuff matters. 516 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 6: And you know, Doug Peterson will probably use the Lombard 517 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 6: quote who took from doctor Jonas Salk. He says, the 518 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 6: greatest work reward for doing is the opportunity to do more. 519 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 6: And so once you start winning, the opportunity to do 520 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 6: more is what the expectation is. And so for Doug Peterson, 521 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 6: look man, being the playoffs should be kind of like 522 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 6: the prerequisite, that should be the starting point. It's about 523 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 6: winning the divisions each and every years, putting yourself in 524 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 6: a position to earn a high seat so you're always 525 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 6: in the conversation to win the title. You may not 526 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 6: win the title every year, but you want to be 527 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 6: in that conversation. And so to do that, though, he 528 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 6: has to constantly remind the team what it took to 529 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 6: learn how to win games. He talks about one player 530 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 6: at a time, one day at a time, All of 531 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 6: those things focus more on the process than the result. 532 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 2: We know that the process, when done. 533 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 6: Correctly and properly execute it leads to the result that 534 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 6: everybody wants. And so as much as the outside expectation 535 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 6: is to win, he'll focus on a make sure we 536 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 6: understand our process and what we need to do to 537 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 6: make sure we take care of our business so that 538 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 6: we can win. If we do that, those things take 539 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 6: care of themselves. 540 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 3: In the end, we saw how thin these victories and 541 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: losses were last year. It comes down We've known this forever. 542 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: It comes down to like five plays in a game 543 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 3: that can change the outcome. And they went the right 544 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 3: way down the stretch for the Jags too. 545 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 4: Well, that's what you assume will be reiterated it. I 546 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 4: know Doug from what he has said, doesn't spend a 547 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 4: whole lot of time with negative or you know, hey, 548 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 4: don't forget this. But the reality was they won five 549 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 4: games late in the season last year where they came 550 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 4: from double digits down, and any one of those goes differently, 551 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 4: and the seasons dramatically differently, and they needed miracles in 552 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 4: the last two games. So there is a reality of 553 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 4: I believe most Jaguars observers believe that they are going 554 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 4: to sort of surge their way into that power force 555 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 4: them as as I'm thinking, and that could be wrong, 556 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 4: but everybody knows case sincey Buffalo have been sort of 557 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 4: the teams you want to get in that group and 558 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 4: then start beating them. 559 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 5: But they've got to be better than they. 560 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 4: Were last year to be a part of that group. 561 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 4: They didn't beat Kansas City either time. 562 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 5: Last year. 563 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 4: They didn't really beat a power team except for Dallas, 564 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 4: So there's a step. I think that step is going 565 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 4: to be consistency a quarterback and not not sort of 566 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 4: floundering a little bit like they did for the first 567 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 4: ten or eleven games. But there's every reason to think 568 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 4: that they will be the second half team, meaning the 569 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 4: second half of last season, and that they'll push toward that, 570 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 4: but that step still us to be taken. They're not 571 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 4: there yet. 572 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 2: No, they're not there yet. 573 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 6: And I would say it is learning from my beloved 574 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 6: Carolina tar Heels and the basketball team. They went to 575 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 6: the title game the year before and thought that they 576 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 6: would be able to roll out the balls and be 577 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 6: the number one team in the country, and they skip 578 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 6: steps and they didn't play particularly well. I think the 579 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 6: difference is Doug Paterson is keenly where Hey, just because 580 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 6: we got to the postseason, that doesn't mean we overlooked 581 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 6: the warts. 582 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: That popped up on the team. Last year. 583 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 6: You guys talked about the number of double digit deficits 584 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 6: that we had to overcome to win those games. Well, 585 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 6: now you want to talk about we got to start 586 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 6: fast and faster. We got to make sure we jump 587 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 6: on people right away. We don't want to have to 588 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 6: wait till the last five minutes of a game to 589 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 6: have a miraculous comeback. And so there's a maturity that 590 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 6: now has to come with the team. In terms of 591 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 6: you talked about consistency. The team has to consistently play 592 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 6: at a high level so it can avoid some of those. 593 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 4: Things, Bucky, Is that you know, I think you hit 594 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 4: on something that's going to be interesting. You always look 595 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 4: for things early in the season to sort of tell 596 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 4: you where a team is. To me, what you just 597 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 4: said is the biggest thing I'm looking for in September 598 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 4: early October? 599 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 5: Is this now a team that. 600 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 4: I know this isn't exactly right, but it seemed like 601 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 4: every time I watch Kansas City they're up seven to nothing. 602 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 5: Is that sort of what you're looking forward to? 603 00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: Say? 604 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 4: Okay, this is a team because it's going to be 605 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 4: an offensive team, There's no question about that. So if 606 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 4: you're going to be that sort of a team. Out 607 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 4: of seventeen eighteen games, you want to see a stat 608 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 4: at the end of the first quarter Jaguars have led 609 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 4: seven of eight time. You know you want to see 610 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 4: them be that team. Is that sort of what you're 611 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 4: looking for? 612 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: Yes, I think I've heard Doug talk about this. 613 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 6: Start fast, finished faster, you know, jump on them early, 614 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 6: and then finish the game and close it out with 615 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 6: a flurry. Part of the reason if you're going to 616 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 6: be an offensive team. Like we're speculating, your offense has 617 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 6: to bring it early, and what you want the offense 618 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 6: to do is to be your best defense. Meaning when 619 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 6: you're able to hang a quick fourteen on the opponent, 620 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 6: it now takes them out of the opportunity to be 621 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 6: a balanced team where they can attack you with the 622 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 6: run and the pass. 623 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 2: That helps the defense. 624 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 6: Because now you're in pass rushing mode. Keep the ball 625 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 6: in front, and do those things. So, yes, you may 626 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 6: hear more screaming and barking at the offense because the 627 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 6: execution needs to be high because the expectation will be 628 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 6: that this team needs to score every time they get 629 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 6: the ball. Whether that's realistic or not, we'll see, but 630 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 6: that would be the expectation. 631 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: We need to go. We need to execute at a 632 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: high level. 633 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 6: And if we execute at a high level offensively, we'll 634 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 6: run teams out of the stadium. 635 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: And it make life easy for the defense. 636 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 5: Let's go, let's go, Jason. 637 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 3: If they score every time, I bet they're scoring more 638 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 3: than thirty a game. 639 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, you all, I know. 640 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 8: I'm not good at math. 641 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that's a pretty good I want to 642 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 3: do it. 643 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,479 Speaker 4: But as as as strange as that sounds sitting here 644 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 4: in the offseason. I mean, Bucky's right, I think thirty 645 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 4: one a game is sort of what you're looking for 646 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 4: and the way it's built. If they're going to take 647 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 4: a step, it needs to come from there. That's going 648 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 4: to be if we're sitting here week eight, Boy, this 649 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 4: is a much better team than last year. I think realistically, 650 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 4: that's where you're going to be talking about it. The 651 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 4: best chance of them being better and being that team 652 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 4: we're talking about being among that power group is to 653 00:30:59,560 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 4: have that. 654 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 3: Because those teams are going to keep doing it too, 655 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 3: and you got to keep up with the Joneses, and 656 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 3: those are the Joneses. By the way, it all comes 657 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 3: down to OTA number one on Monday and John's tracking 658 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 3: of Trevor's statistics. Bucky, So, I'm sure you're gonna look 659 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 3: for that on Twitter on Monday. It's one of the 660 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 3: three OTAs that are open to the media. But all 661 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: this success, you know, comes down to Monday in my opinion, Bucky, 662 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 3: what do you think, Well, I. 663 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 6: Mean, look, we get a start, you get a start 664 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 6: off fast, and so I would expect John to be 665 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 6: out there pinning pad making great notes on the number 666 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 6: of completions that Trevor has. I should be able to 667 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 6: see a report a Trevor finished eighteen for twenty two, 668 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 6: going through seven oh seven and team drills. Everything looked great. 669 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 6: He should be able to kind of quickly tally in 670 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 6: his head Calvin Ridley had six of those catches for 671 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 6: well over one hundred yards based on my calculations and 672 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 6: those things, and then we can get excited about it. 673 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of pressure not only are the Jags, 674 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: but on Jo for making sure that he's there taking 675 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: copious note. 676 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd be honest. 677 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 4: The Lombardi quote you threw out about the greatest reward being. 678 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 6: The greatest thing is the greatest reward for doing is 679 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 6: the opportunity to do more. 680 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: He took it for. 681 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 5: Great reward for doing is a cold beer in a nap. 682 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 3: Tears to that. I'm in Buck. You will talk to 683 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 3: you next week. 684 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 6: Oh, it should be fun, looking forward, looking forward to 685 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 6: talking about all things ot as. 686 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: Looking forward to it. 687 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 3: We'll do that all of the thing. It's about ot 688 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,959 Speaker 3: as next week. That's Bucky Brooks, John Ozer for Joe Fortunato. 689 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 3: I'm JP Shadwick. 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