1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: Jetty and he Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 2: Coming up Seattle because Seattle is Seattle is going to 5 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: have a gay pride themed soccer match as part of 6 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: the Big FIFA Championship in North America. Because of the 7 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: blind draw of teams. Guess which teams will be playing 8 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: the gay Pride match. It's as funny as it could 9 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: possibly know. 10 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: Wow, okay, look forward to that. Also, my favorite story 11 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: of the day. 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: A scientist has ranked dozens and dozens of mammals on monogamy. 13 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: Where do human beings rank in the list of mammals? 14 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: Wow? 15 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, slutty slutty chimps. Stay tuned. 16 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: Donald Trump's going to sign an executive order at the 17 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 3: end of the week this week, So in the next 18 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 3: couple of days about AI. 19 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: I want to tell you. 20 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: About First, I was scrolling Instagram last night in bed 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: when I should have been trying to get to sleep, 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: but I couldn't get to sleep because this dang cough 23 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: I keep coughing myself a week. I wondered why you 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: texted me at the hour you did No, No, I 25 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: got medicine. 26 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: I keep caught AnyWho. And I'm also I should be reading, 27 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: but I'm at the most difficult chapter in Ulysses. As 28 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: I continue to try to read this book. It's where 29 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 3: most people stop if they ever make it that far. 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 3: It is so freaking hard. And it's an hour and 31 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: a half read according to my kindle. So that's a 32 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: long chapter. 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: Oh chapter, Oh can you describe why it's so hard? Yes? 34 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: I can? 35 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: Okay, So the scene I only know this because I 36 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: went to like a crib notes tutor. 37 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have figured this out from the content. They're 38 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: at a hospital where a woman is in labor and 39 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: gonna have a baby. So the chapter both mimics the 40 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: nine months of a pregnancy, including the birth, while demonstrating 41 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 3: the evolution of the English language starting at the very 42 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: beginning of the written word till now, what the hell 43 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 3: with the language of the chapter is progressing in a 44 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: way analogous to a pregnancy progressing right, good lord, And 45 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: it's impossible to have any idea what's going on? 46 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: Anyway? Whatever happened to boy meets girl? 47 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: So anyway, so I didn't feel like reading that last night, 48 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: and I was scrolling through and I came across this 49 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: comedian and I wanted to get all the credit because 50 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: this is so funny. 51 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: Should just play the clip. Elena Hershey is her name. 52 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: She's the point. 53 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: And I never anybody say this before about how she 54 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 3: has no respect for pro bowlers because she, like most people, 55 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: goes bowling like once a year and even then, being 56 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: no good at it. Going once a year, not paying attention, 57 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: she usually rolls a strike at some point, which is 58 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: the best thing you can do in bowling, right. 59 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: There's no other sport where like. 60 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: Once a year you can go out and accidentally, half drunk, 61 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: not paying attention, do the best thing you can do 62 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: in that sport. You don't once a year go to 63 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: an ice skating rink, ause, she said, and land a 64 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: triple LUTs. 65 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: Right, just randomly. 66 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: Have a beer, step into the batting cage and just 67 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: rip one hundred mile per hour fastball in the left center. 68 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's not happening. 69 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: No other sports like that, you know. Uh, you know, 70 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty funny. Back to reality. 71 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: So, uh, this is from the Wall Street Journal today. 72 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: Somehow I missed this truth social from early in the 73 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: week Donald Trump, just a couple of weeks ago, the 74 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: guy that runs in video that always wears the cool 75 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: tom Ford leather jacket, the most vialuable company in the world. 76 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: I think. 77 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: He told Donald Trump. 78 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 3: That this patchwork of AI laws across the country, every 79 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: fifty states, with a gazillion different kind of laws, is 80 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: really going to slow down our ability to maximize AI 81 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: and stay ahead of China. And that got Trump's attention, apparently, 82 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 3: And it's a decent argument. I mean, it's beyond a 83 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: decent argument. It makes perfectly good sense that the US 84 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: needs to avoid a collection of disparate state rules for AI, 85 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: setting off a month long frenzy that is expected to 86 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: culminate this week in the signing of an executive order. 87 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: That will fix that somehow. Trump truth out. 88 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 2: You can't expect a company to get fifty approvals every 89 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: time they want to do anything, Trump posted Monday. 90 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 1: That will never work. 91 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 3: And he's expected to sign some executive order and I 92 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: don't know how they're gonna word it. 93 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: In such a way that that can't happen anymore. 94 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 2: But it's really gonna unshackle these AI companies and let 95 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: him scream forward with whatever it is they're trying to do. 96 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: For better or worse. 97 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm extremely skeptical about how successful an executive order 98 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 2: would be in preempting state laws. 99 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: Some general, Hey, don't mess with AI. It sounds sill. 100 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: That's funny. 101 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: Florida Governor Ron DeSantis said an executive order doesn't can't 102 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: preempt state legislative action. 103 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: Me and Ron high five, Ron. 104 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 105 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 3: Others in the Republican Party seem open to supporting Trump's approach, 106 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: despite their opposition to a moratorium on state AI laws. 107 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 3: A spokesman for Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who's pretty 108 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: darn trumpy, who like DeSantis, has criticized state preemption, said 109 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: she backs Trump's AI strategy and looks forward to working 110 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: with him to win the AI rice while protecting Americans, 111 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: which is a nice phrase that doesn't get anywhere near 112 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 3: a solution for the problem. 113 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 114 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: I can see her chief staff saying, Governor Trump's made 115 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: an announcement, do you want to go with the standard 116 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: I'm with him gung ho statement because it doesn't matter, 117 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: And she said, yeah, that's perfect. 118 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,559 Speaker 1: Well, so what do you think it's going to happen. 119 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it is true. 120 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: How in the world are we going to not get 121 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: surpassed by China if you have to deal with fifty 122 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: different states rules for everything you try to do? Right, Yeah, 123 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: I should have made my sentiments more clear. They are 124 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: as follows. He's right, He's absolutely right. 125 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: It's true. 126 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: But the executive order won't accomplish much other than saying, hey, 127 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: let's look at it this way. 128 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: It's like one of his truths. Could Congress pass. 129 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: A law, then, yeah, they could pass a federal law, 130 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 2: but I think the chances of that happening are about zero. 131 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: There are too many smart people in Congress who would 132 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: realize any law we passed today would be outdated tomorrow. 133 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: We're wasting our time. 134 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: Republicans have been promoting the preempting of state AI rules 135 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: for years. The idea gained momentum in the last year 136 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: and a half when Democratic states such as Colorado, here 137 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: in California, and New York signed laws imposing guardrails. 138 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: On tech companies. 139 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: And of course, these guardrails are being put in place 140 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: by people who have no idea what they're talking about, 141 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: because nobody really does, or they're just. 142 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: Responding to people's concerns about AI in a way that 143 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: won't do any good, but they can portray themselves as hey, 144 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: we're trying, We're protecting you and your families. 145 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 146 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: An executive order is a clear signal of the administration's 147 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 3: robust commitment to a federal AI governance framework. 148 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: The question now is what that framework will be. 149 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: Well, I would say we better do it flipping fast, 150 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: like by next week. 151 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 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But crashes in intersections compared to human drivers 193 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: over an equal number of miles driven, crashes in intersections 194 00:09:55,640 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: ninety six percent lower, crashes with pedestrians ninety two percent lower. 195 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 2: Crashes with cyclists or motorcyclists eighty three percent lower. Anybody 196 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: who rides a bike a motorcycle can tell you, because 197 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: we you all know if people are looking for cars, 198 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: they don't see motorcycles. Nobody can exactly explain it, but 199 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: people will turn left right in front of a motorcycle 200 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: that's got a blazing headlight and it's coming at them anyway. 201 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: Lateral crashes, it's merely a seventy three percent decrease. And 202 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: as one writer commented after these statistics, challenge you to 203 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: go for a walk around in any American city. See 204 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: what the drivers are doing while they drive texting. They're 205 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 2: all texting. It's no longer texting while driving. People are 206 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 2: driving while texting. 207 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: Anyway. The gay themed. 208 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: Seattle soccer match, everybody's so excited about coming up and 209 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 2: hilarious matchup for that, plus ranking mammals by their monogamy. 210 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: Don't check into that hourly hotel until you hear the 211 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: next segment. 212 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: I look forward to that. 213 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 3: And David Ignatius of the Washington Post believes there's hope 214 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 3: for this peace plan between Russia and Ukraine based on 215 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: the people he's talking to. 216 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: We can get into that a little bit later. It's 217 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: pretty interesting. Stay tuned. Is that Bing Crosby news? 218 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, probably from like the forties. Wow, we're listening to 219 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 3: a White Christmas the ore day. That was the version 220 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: of White Christmas by Bing Crosby. Usually here was recorded in. 221 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: Forty seven, nineteen forty seven. 222 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: If I could sing like Bengad, never shut up. So oh, 223 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: that's right. First, I got to pay this off. There's 224 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 2: some really interesting news coming out of Britain. They've got 225 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: a new kind of woke party and the Islamists and 226 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: the Wokists are starting to fight, not surprisingly because their 227 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: views are antithetical to each other. Good Lord, anyway, why 228 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 2: a lot of people predict the Conservatives are going to 229 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: have a huge breakthrough soon. I certainly hope so so 230 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: Seattle gonna Seattle? They got a World Cup match for 231 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: the coming FIFA World Championships that are going to be 232 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: all across North America. Well, they announced that the big 233 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 2: game's going to be gay Pride themed in Seattle. But 234 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 2: there's a blind draw for who's in what matches, And 235 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: they drew Egypt and Iran. 236 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: Wow with their gay ride match. 237 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: Wow? 238 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: How perfect is that? Wow? 239 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: So the fans of those countries, if they came to watch, 240 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: then matches are from countries where you murder homosexuals. 241 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: Both Egypt and Iran criminalize gay relationships, and indeed, in Iran, 242 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: capital punishment is still the maximum penalty under the law 243 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: for being gay or gaying with another person. 244 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's correct. So how fricking funny is that? Seattle? 245 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh you're so enlightened. We know you 246 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: can shut up now. Anyway, Moving along, how monogamous are 247 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: human beings compared to other mammals? And this study, the 248 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: scientist assessed monogamy by comparing the number of full and 249 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 2: half siblings in a population. In an exclusively monogamous group, 250 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: you'd only ever see full siblings, whereas in a more 251 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: promiscuous one, full siblings would be rare. 252 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: You'd seen a lot of half brothers. 253 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to this, and I feel like he 254 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,239 Speaker 3: can veer off into a pretty interesting discussion. 255 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: I certainly hope. 256 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 2: So here are a couple problems though, with measuring humans. 257 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: In most species, who you get it on with maps 258 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: pretty well with who you reproduce with. 259 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: But in humans, we can. 260 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: Have ten years of sexual relationships with various people that 261 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: produce no offspring, but then we're married for the rest 262 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 2: of our lives and have three kids. 263 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: Do animals have sex for pleasure only? Right? Oh? Well, 264 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: that's an interesting question. I don't think so anyway. 265 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: Humans in certainly many humans considered it perfectly normal to 266 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: It's not a lack of monogamy, it's a lack of 267 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: long term relationships. You try various mates until you come 268 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: up with the right one, in a way that the 269 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: animal kingdom doesn't really do. You can have ten girlfriends 270 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: before you get married and be faithful to all of them. 271 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: My son last night said, I need to find a 272 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: hot chick who really likes dinosaurs and fat guys. It's 273 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: with the Internet's made for son anyway. So it's actually 274 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: tricky with humans because of birth control as well. There 275 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: are very few mammals other than humans that use birth control, 276 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: but if you just look at the sibling outcomes, humans 277 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: are pretty steadfast. We rank the seventh seventh most monogamous 278 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: on the Scientist's lists, coming right below the Eurasian beaver 279 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: and above the lar Gibbon. Most faithful mammal they can 280 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: find is the California deer mouse. Surprising that in slutty, slutty, 281 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: sodomy soaked California you'd have the most monogamous animal, the 282 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: California deer mouse. Right, I mean you're you're you're using 283 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: terms like faithful or whatever is if. Uh, these are 284 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: determinations these beasts are making exactly they've thought it over 285 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: and decided. You know, all this slut around is just 286 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: making me miserable. I need to find somebody I care 287 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: about and settle down. 288 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: Or even if even for human beings, you could be 289 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: a human being that had I don't know, pick a 290 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: number a dozen sexual partners in their life and they 291 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 3: were faithful to all of them, as I said right now, 292 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: So in animals it doesn't I don't know how animals 293 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 3: look at it. 294 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't track that way exactly. 295 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: So your number one is the California deer mouse, followed 296 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: by the African wild dog. How about that, Well, dogs 297 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: in America don't look very faithful to me when I 298 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: see him in a park coupling. 299 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: There's a mole rat. It was a bitch. 300 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: A mustached tamarin. You see the tamarin with the porn 301 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: star stash. You're thinking that's a play. You'd be wrong. 302 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: They're monogamous, the mustache tamarin. 303 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: That's right. 304 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: Then you got your Ethiopian wolf, you're Eurasian beaver humans, 305 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: then a gibbon, a meerkat, and a gray wolf. And 306 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 2: then then you get down to the slutty end of things. 307 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: Bottlenosed dolphins, orcas Ma, caqus and black bears took many 308 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: of the bottom spots with four percent or lower rates. 309 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: This kind of sheep, the so a sheep native to Scotland, 310 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: known for their hardiness and small size, and also for 311 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: their cheating hearts. Their monogamy rank is zero point six 312 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: percent pure siblings or full siblings. 313 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: And I gotta believe that's got something. 314 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 3: To do with their needs for procreating and keeping the 315 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: species going right, right, because that's what it's all about. 316 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: Right, And they make the point that, Oh. 317 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 2: Where is the mustachioed muskrat or whatever you were talking 318 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 2: about is not saying you know, it says in the 319 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: Bible that we should not couple with them bubble bad 320 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: and they're not into that, right. And they mentioned that overall, 321 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: less than ten percent of mammals are monogamous. Typically, males 322 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: fight each other for access to females, copulating with as 323 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 2: many as possible giggity to maximize the potential spread of 324 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 2: their genes. Here's the question that fascinates me, and I'm 325 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 2: sure there's science that I'm just not familiar with on 326 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: this question, like the classy mustachioed tamarin. Are we genetically 327 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 2: predisposed to monogamy? Or did we decide as human beings 328 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: us killing each other constantly to see who mates with 329 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: whom is a bad long term strategy. Can we all 330 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: calm the hell down, maybe pick a mate and stick 331 00:17:58,440 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: with her. 332 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: Oh, I think it's probably of both, evolutionary, I think, yeah, 333 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: I think there's all kinds of advantages to monogamy. 334 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, putting religion insights certainly in moral teachings, yeah, I wonder. 335 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is interesting. 336 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: Some of those slutty slutty animals discussed by the whole thing. 337 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: That's sheep, h Armstrong and Getty. 338 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 4: We didn't have tariffs, you would have no steel. We 339 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 4: wouldn't have one steal mill anywhere in the United States, 340 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 4: and that would be really bad for scott national security. 341 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: We need the one thing you need. 342 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 4: You need steal. You know you can give up certain products. 343 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 4: You can give up pencils, guys, under the China policy. 344 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 4: You know, every child can get thirty seven pencils. 345 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: They only need one or two. You know they don't 346 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: need that many. 347 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 4: But you always need, You always need steal. You don't 348 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 4: need thirty seven dollars for your daughter. Two or three 349 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 4: is nice, but you don't need thirty seven dollars. 350 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: Pretty interesting. 351 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 3: So Trump, uh, last night kicking off a tour he's 352 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 3: gonna make where he's going to go around talking up 353 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 3: the economy and the wins and that sort of stuff. 354 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 3: But man, continuing on that angle of your kids are 355 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 3: getting too many toys, I just I can't believe that 356 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 3: it's a Jack Armstrongian position that you know, cheap Chinese 357 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: crap is no good anyway. 358 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: We were better off when we have bought fewer things 359 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 2: of higher quality. But lecturing America and telling them they 360 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: ought to have different consumer habits. 361 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: It's an iffy proposition. Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. Anyway, maybe 362 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: we'll play a little more from his rally last night. 363 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: That's what I intended to talk about. I want to 364 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: talk about. 365 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 3: Where we are on this peace deal that Trump has 366 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 3: been pushing and lots of people have been pushing between 367 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: Ukraine and Russia. 368 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: And I was assuming it was dead. 369 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: But David Ignatius, who is one of the great writers 370 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 3: on foreign policy in America, and as some of the 371 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: best sources say, he says people he's talking too close 372 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 3: to the deal. Americans, Ukrainians, and Europeans think this might 373 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: actually happen. And here's a simple description, David Ignatius writes 374 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: of what a peace deal should look like in Ukraine 375 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 3: a sovereign nation. Obviously, it's borders protected by international security guarantees, 376 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 3: part of the European Union, and rebuilding its economy with 377 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 3: big investments from the United States and Europe. 378 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: I was surprised to hear that that's going to happen, 379 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: or is likely to happen. 380 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: The negotiating package involves three documents. The Ukrainian officials said. 381 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: The peace plan, security guarantees, and an economic recovery plan. 382 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: The talks are far from over, with Ukraine and European 383 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 3: supporters planning to rease lease a joint set of amendments today. 384 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: Here are some of the ideas. 385 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 2: Ukraine would join the European Union as early as twenty 386 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: twenty seven, so a year in change from now. 387 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: This rapid accession to the. 388 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 3: EU worries some EU powers, but the Trump administration thinks 389 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 3: it can overcome opposition from Hungary, which has been the 390 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: biggest opponent, and membership in the U obviously would foster 391 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 3: trade and investment because you'd be part of that whole thing. 392 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 3: The United States would provide Now, this is where I 393 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 3: think it's really interesting for the Magga. 394 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 2: Crowd, the America first crowd. This is none of our 395 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 2: business crowd. The United States would. 396 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 3: Provide what are described as Article five like security guarantees 397 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 3: to protect Ukraine if Russian Russia violates the pact. Ukraine 398 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 3: wants the US to sign such an agreement and have 399 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 3: Congress ratify it. European nations would sign separate security guarantees. 400 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: And the Russians are going to agree to that. 401 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: It's de facto NATO membership, isn't it or something? 402 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: That's a good point. 403 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 3: I mean, what's the difference between NATO and this does 404 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 3: make any difference if it's called NATO, and would Congress 405 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 3: ratify that? Would the America first crowd be on board 406 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: with that guaranteed? If Russian invades again, tries to take Kiev, 407 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 3: we're at war with Russia. I'm not sure what I 408 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 3: think of that. 409 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm making my bad smell face. David Ignatius is 410 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 2: a good writer and an insightful one. If he thinks 411 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 2: it's in a shape that could turn into something acceptable, 412 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 2: I believe him. 413 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 3: He said, this is what the sources from the United States, 414 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: Ukraine and other Ukraine countries are telling him. 415 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: Are the deal right? I'd like to note their level 416 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: of certainty or optimism. 417 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 3: Part of the reasoning is that Zelenski can't sell anything 418 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 3: to his country short of this sort of guarantee. 419 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: Really, man, that would be something, though we have. 420 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 3: An attack on one as an attack on all agreement 421 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 3: with Ukraine with Russia right there, however, many miles from 422 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 3: Kiev and a lot of people, assuming that Vlad would 423 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: just bide his time restock his coffers with bullets, et cetera, 424 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 3: and then go back to trying to take over the 425 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 3: entire country. 426 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 2: And that sounds like it would be very very west 427 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 2: leaning the nature of Ukraine in a way that the 428 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: Russians can't accept. I'm very very skeptical, partly because Putin 429 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: always has as his option, you know what, I'm going 430 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 2: to pound him for three more months, then we can 431 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: talk again. 432 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: Right, Well, we're not even done here yet. 433 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 3: Some of these are so A demilitarized zone that's not 434 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 3: really that surprising to me would be established along the 435 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 3: entire ceasefire line all the way from the Dunetes province 436 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 3: in the northeast to the cities further south. Behind this 437 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 3: DMZ would be a deeper zone in which heavy weapons 438 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 3: would be excluded. This line would be closely monitored. 439 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: It'd be like the DMZ. 440 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 3: That divides North and South Korea. So it wouldn't be 441 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 3: that easy for Russia. 442 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: To just roll right through it. 443 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you'd see them coming right closely monitored by 444 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 2: whom and with what enforcement mechanisms. 445 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: It reminds me of. 446 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 2: The bizarre situation where we at various times have come 447 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: up with these agreements with Iran about inspecting their nuclear facilities. 448 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: Then sometimes they just say, nah, you can't come into 449 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: this plant, and the people stamp their feet and write 450 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: strong letters and file aggrievance and then we go on 451 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: with our lives. Well. 452 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: And also in terms of the United States, yeah, sure 453 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: we got your back if they invade you, just like 454 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 3: we said in the early nineties when you gave up 455 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: your nuclear weapons and we signed what. 456 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: Is it the Buddhapest Paper or whatever it's called. 457 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 3: We signed an agreement saying we'll protect you from foreign invaders, just. 458 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: Give up your nuclear weapons. 459 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 3: And we didn't, right right, And then this part they 460 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: got that big giant nuclear power, the largest nuclear plant 461 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 3: in all of Europe is in Ukraine. 462 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: We've talked about that before. 463 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 3: The Zaparisia Nuclear power Plant would no longer be under 464 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 3: Russian occupation. Negotiations are discussing the possibility that the United 465 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 3: States achover running the facility. 466 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: M All right, there's a lot here. 467 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: Now. 468 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: David Ignatius throws in his opinion here by saying, the 469 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: biggest mistake Trump can make is to insist that it's 470 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: now or never. Diplomacy doesn't work that way, and as 471 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 3: Trump has said many times, including in his book, the 472 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 3: worst thing you can possibly do in a deal is 473 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 3: seem desperate to make it. That makes the other guy 474 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: smell blood, and then you're dead. Trump's definitely not looking 475 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 3: like he's desperate to make a deal. Putin certainly isn't right. 476 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: Trump should make a reasonable deal that will last. 477 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: Otherwise he might end up with nothing in this miserable 478 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: conflict could enter an even more destructive phase. Yeah, I 479 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: just I think Trump, speaking of being too hot to 480 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 2: trot for various things, it's too hot to trot for 481 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: hanging another hide on his wall. Look, he brought peace 482 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 2: between Ukraine and Russia, and Russia sitting there thinking I'm 483 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: not observing this, and Ukraine's thinking this ain't gonna work well. 484 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: But Trump still gets to point to the But if 485 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 2: it's like that, But if it's this deal that's not 486 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: given away the farm, I mean, if they've got ratified 487 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: by Congress written guarantees that the United States jumps in 488 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: if Russia invades again, holy crap. Yeah, yeah, I'm extremely 489 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 2: skeptical that something like this will become the agreement. 490 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: I don't know about either end of it. 491 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 3: I don't know that Putin would say sure, I'm fine 492 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 3: with that deal or that our Congress would ratify it, 493 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: and I'm not sure I'm in favor of it. 494 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: I'd have to think about it more. 495 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: But right, well, let's talk about arming them some more, 496 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 2: giving them a long range of repens or can we 497 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: kick Germany again and tell them to give Ukraine more 498 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 2: arms before we say yeah, we'll commit American boys if Russian? 499 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 2: If Russia across as the trip wire, there's a lot 500 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: here that stinks. 501 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 3: How would we leap all the way from we're not 502 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 3: sure we should give you that weapon or not too? 503 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 3: We're at war with Russia if they go any further. 504 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: That seems like a hell of a jump unless it's 505 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 2: a hollow promise. It's really easy to make hollow promises. Well, 506 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: that'd be pretty awful, correct, You do that a couple 507 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: of times and nobody believes anything you say? 508 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: That would be awful? Again? 509 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 3: Yes, right, oof, okay, but that's where it stands currently 510 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 3: and again ignacious. His sources say that that is feasible, possible, 511 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: could actually happen. 512 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: That's what they're working on. 513 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: Well, pray for peace, prepare for war, and prepare for 514 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 2: hackers and akers, robbers and his bastards who try to 515 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 2: steal your identity online. And at Christmas time, a lot 516 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: of people are given tablets and smartphones and that sort 517 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: of thing, but a lot of folks don't aren't really 518 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 2: super savvy about protecting themselves. 519 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: And that's why webroot. 520 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: Total protection for the whole family is such a good idea. 521 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: Grant, he's not going to fall for that. 522 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: Your package is delayed link because Web for instance, blocks 523 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 2: risky sites before she could even click, among many other tools. 524 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: Oh, you're blaming it on granny and dumb people. I 525 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 3: think I almost did today. 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Like I get 548 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 3: a PayPal thing every single day, your PayPal account is overdue, 549 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 3: and I know it's not. It's a fake one, and 550 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 3: I don't click on it, and I'm trying to figure 551 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 3: out hot a block out and I can't. But then 552 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 3: sometimes I get a your buick is got to recall, 553 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: And I never owned a buick, so I'm pretty sure 554 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: that one doesn't fit. 555 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: But it's an easy one. 556 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: Well, given the cost of zapping out those messages, which 557 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: is nil. If you get a one in fifty thousand 558 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: response rate, it's a huge win. Yeah, no kidding, Yeah, unbelievable. 559 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: Speaking of technology, I thought this was cool. It's good news, 560 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: good news. Do you know about gabro jack gabro gabb 561 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: r o. It's an unremarkable rock, so cheap and abundant. 562 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 2: It's used for gravel and building roads. But it might 563 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 2: be part of how we break our dependence on China's 564 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 2: critical minerals. 565 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: So it's the opposite of a critical mineral. There's plenty 566 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: of it. 567 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: No, no, you gett minerals from common rocks. 568 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 4: Oh. 569 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: It takes technology, chemistry, all sorts of stuff to isolate 570 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: the useful stuff from less useful stuff. I didn't even 571 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: take a chemistry class, much less excel in it. But 572 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: Silicon Valley Hears, Oakland, California, a startup called Brimstone is 573 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: processing this gabbre with proprietary chemistry and off the shelf 574 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 2: equipment to produce aluminum, magnesium and other minerals frequently imported 575 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: from China. 576 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: There's a huge boom in all. 577 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 2: Right, let's get loose of dependence on China on these 578 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: critical minerals and rare earths and the rest of it, 579 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: which is great. I'm tempted to go off on my 580 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: Isaac Newton alchemy tangent, which I've been holding on to 581 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: for quite some time. 582 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: But maybe some other day. 583 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: Wow, wait a minute, that sounds intriguing. Science y. He 584 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: was more an alchemist than he was a mathematician, and 585 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: we didn't know this until fairly recently. 586 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: Wow. 587 00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: Really being a bit of a hah place all for 588 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: religious reasons. 589 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 3: He's a very religious guy, but he had to hide 590 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 3: that at the time because it was so uncool. 591 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: Alchemy or mathematics alchemy. 592 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, Yeah, I'm not super up on 593 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: the history of They were trying to turn lead into gold. 594 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: I read that in school. That's not what alchemy mostly is. 595 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: For some reason, we were misled about that our whole schools. 596 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: Damn schools. 597 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 2: Wow, it's mostly a religious thing. What Yeah, Now you 598 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 2: gotta tell us, Well, I don't know if I do. Anyway, 599 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: we got more on the way. 600 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: Stay here and listen to this. 601 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: Trump just threatened to raise tariffs on Mexico by five 602 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: percent if they don't send more. 603 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: Water to the US. Smart. 604 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: If there's one thing I feel totally confident in, it's 605 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: water for Mexico. 606 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 3: Remember when we learned several years ago that that whole 607 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 3: uh don't drink the water thing is pretty much true 608 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 3: anywhere you go in the world, just because your body 609 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 3: has become accustomed to water or wherever you live, and 610 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 3: when you travel to someplace else, their water is different 611 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 3: and often. 612 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: Upsets your stomach. And it's not just Mexico. It can 613 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: be any first world country where that happens. I'd say, 614 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: I didn't I miss that or didn't know it or something. 615 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: I mean, because in Mexico you'll be very, very sick. 616 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 3: But it can happen anywhere just because you're not used 617 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 3: to Like the people whom Mexico don't get sick from 618 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 3: drinking the water because their bodies have accustomed to it. 619 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: Is the theory. I don't know. I didn't do the science. 620 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: I didn't do the scrink water and a lot of 621 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: places around the world and done fine. 622 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: But true, although I have drink water Mexico and done fine. 623 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 2: So uh So I was talking about Isaac Newton in 624 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 2: alchemy like we always do on Wednesdays. So I was 625 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: on this Isaac Newton cake about a year ago or whatever, 626 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 2: and read a couple of books about it. 627 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 3: And he's understudied absolutely fascinating dude, and I get pulled 628 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 3: into it actually by this secret stuff we learned about 629 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 3: him not that many years ago. Isaac Newton, father of 630 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 3: mathematics and then in ventor of all these physical principles, 631 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 3: you know, laws of motion and all these different things. 632 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: But his main thing that. 633 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 3: He had to hide there in England in the lateeen 634 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 3: sixteen hundreds because the religious climate was religion. He was 635 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 3: a very, very devout religious person, but his particular view 636 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 3: of the relationship between Jesus and the Church and all 637 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 3: these different things wasn't what was in favor at the time, 638 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 3: and he would have gotten thrown in jail if his 639 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 3: thinking in writings had been out loud. So he was 640 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 3: really into alchemy, which we were taught in school was 641 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 3: all about turning lead into gold, which it often was, 642 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 3: but that was not primarily the reason for alchemy, and 643 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 3: I kind of wonder why books didn't tell us this 644 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 3: at the time. 645 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: I think there's maybe a reason. It was mostly a 646 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: religious thing it was about. 647 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 3: It had to do with the way human beings can change, 648 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 3: and blood into water and all these different sorts of things, 649 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 3: fitting in with the Bible and their theological beliefs. It 650 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 3: wasn't just purely we could take lead, which is easy 651 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 3: to find, and turn into gold and become rich. It 652 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 3: was way more a god thing, and I think they 653 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 3: wanted to downplay that for some reason. Anyway, Isaac Newton, 654 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 3: one of the greatest scientists of all time, was. 655 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: Super into it. He wrote more about. 656 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 3: This than he did about anything about gravity or anything else. 657 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 2: He wrote more about this, but it was hidden and 658 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 2: nobody saw the papers until the nineteen thirties. Isaac Newton's 659 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 2: papers went up for auction in the nineteen thirties, and 660 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: because the famous economist Keynes of England, that Keynes is 661 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 2: in Kingsian economics, he John Maynard Keynes, he bid on them, 662 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: won the Isaac Newton papers and discovered all these writings 663 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 2: about all of his theological spiritual. 664 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: Stuff about alchemy. Nobody knew that Isaac Newton had. 665 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 3: This side to him until Keenes, the economist, bought these 666 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 3: papers and then wrote a couple of books about it 667 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 3: and revealed it to the world. He was more a 668 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 3: theologian than he was a into physics, but he had 669 00:34:58,960 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 3: to hide. 670 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 2: One from Wow wow, how interesting. Brilliant guy. Obviously one 671 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 2: of the more Balan bear times, maybe I'll go ahead 672 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 2: and invent modern mathematics. 673 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 1: One of the more brilliant people that have ever lived. 674 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 3: And the fact that he had to hide all that 675 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 3: from everybody, and it just fairly recently got discovered by a. 676 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: Famous economist, which, yeah. 677 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 2: All of history is grossly oversimplified, partly because you almost 678 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 2: have to. 679 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: Although I just ran into a great. 680 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 2: Unmasking of the idiot sixteen nineteen project in the notion 681 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: that American slavery was so much worse than we and 682 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 2: we really invented slavery in the United States, Oh my god, 683 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 2: is so much worse than other slavery in other parts 684 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 2: of the world. And this obsession with self hatred and 685 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: it's just not based on fact at all. But if 686 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 2: somebody with an authoritative sounding title tells a bunch of 687 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 2: youngsters that that's the truth, they believe it and he 688 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 2: can't believe, you can't blame them, really, And it's troubling 689 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 2: because we've got a couple of generations of people with 690 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 2: really perverse beliefs about this country and they're one hundred 691 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 2: percent certain that they're right. What are you gonna do 692 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 2: do a better job of policing? 693 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: What's going on in schools. 694 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,919 Speaker 2: For one thing, No freaking kidd, there's a decent chance 695 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 2: that book is being taught in your kid's school. Oh yeah, absolutely, 696 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: particularly in Blue states. Yes, it's absolutely obscene. And it's horses. 697 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 2: It comes out of the south side of a northbound horse. 698 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: Yes it does. I mean, for one thing, the incredibly tiny. 699 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: Percentage of the Atlantic slave trade that ended up in 700 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 2: the continental United States. I mean it's a tiny percentage. 701 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 2: The vast majority of the slaves were sent to Central 702 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: and South America, and there's well, what time is it now, 703 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 2: We don't have time for this, but uh, maybe we'll 704 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 2: get onto that another time. But the many, many, many, 705 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 2: many more slaves survived in the territory that became the US, 706 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 2: or in the US than in South America, which is 707 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 2: why they have a lot of descendants here, because if 708 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 2: you were sent to the to clear the jungles of Brazil, 709 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 2: you're gonna die. Anyway, more on that another time. Are 710 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 2: human beings designed to be monogamous? I've actually done more 711 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 2: reading on that question. It's interesting, Oh, very interesting. Huh okay, 712 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: I feel like we are. But you think that maybe 713 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 2: that's just a I don't know, we'll discuss that. 714 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: Don't pressure dirty words in my mouth. Have you missed the. 715 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 3: Segment of an hour get the podcast Armstrong and Getty 716 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 3: on demand much more. 717 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 2: You're strong and