1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: This is the Action Network Podcast. 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 2: Yes it is. It's good without further ado. 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 3: That's what the game's all about. 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: All of a sudden you feel like you can't miss. 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna leave it up here. 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 3: You make if you try that again. Absolutely. 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast NBA Edition. I'm your host, 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: Matt Moore, Senior NBA writer for the Action Network, Joined 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: as always by Raheem Palmer who's already yawning. Thanks for 10 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: getting it started on a hot streak, Raheem, and Brandon Anderson, 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: who hates the Chicago Bulls more than he hates anyone 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: in the entire world. Today's episode, All the Odds are 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: brought to you by bet MGM, the official odds provider 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: for the Action Network Podcast. You can find it all 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: of our Action Network analysis content. I have a big 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: piece up on MVP questions you need to ask yourself 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: before you decide on MVP. And it's not just do 18 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: you know who Nicole Yokich's but you should know who 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: Nicole Yokich is? And not just are you aware that 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 2: Steph Currery makes a lot of threes? I don't know 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: if you guys know this. Steph Curry makes a lot 22 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 2: of threes, all of that on our Action Network ad. 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: We can track your bets, do all that stuff. Great stuff. 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: On today's show, I have twenty questions I'm going to 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: go through with those guys. We're gonna go rapid fire 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: style getting through a bunch of questions about where the 27 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: NBA season sits, about the odds, about the playoffs, about 28 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: all manner of things. So lets you know where we 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: are at. We are roughly a month away. We're less 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: than a month away from the start of the twenty 31 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: twenty one NBA Playoffs. I'm very excited. I'm very excited 32 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 2: to hit this home stretch. The games have been great 33 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: the last couple of days. I feel like we're through 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: the dog days. There's in the NBA season. There's always 35 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: kind of like after the All Star break, there's a 36 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: lull where everything gets really trash, and then there's a 37 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: good push the month before up until two weeks before 38 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: the playoffs start. These next two weeks are like a 39 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: golden time in the NBA in terms of game quality. 40 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: Everybody's trying except for the tanking squads. It's like a 41 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: really good time. And then the last two weeks everybody's 42 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: resting and just getting ready for the playoffs. So really 43 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 2: excited to do that. We're gonna do twenty questions. Let's 44 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: kick that off in our marquee, the Marquis. Look you 45 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: hear the shutter for the crowd, all right, Question number 46 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: one for you guys, twenty questions about the NBA season 47 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: so far? Better title chances the Brooklyn Nets or the 48 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: Philadelphia seventy Sixers. The Nets announced yesterday James Harden Will 49 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: has somebody set back with his hamstring and we'll continuing 50 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: to miss time. The big talking point out of that 51 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: is the Nets are not going to have any time 52 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: to play together with the Big Three. They're basically going 53 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: to go into the playoffs having only played a handful 54 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: of games with Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving and James Harden 55 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: at the same time, as if those guys actually care 56 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: about that, but it's a big talking point. Meanwhile, the 57 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: philadel Via seventy six Ers, for all the dominance and 58 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 2: how good they are, they lose to the Golden State 59 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: Warriors that game they really should have won. That team 60 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 2: is obviously flawed. The Nets obviously have questions, but they're 61 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: Big three. Raheem let's start with you. Who do you 62 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: think outside of the oddscause obviously the Nets are big favorites. 63 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: Who do you think has a better chance of getting 64 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: through all of the battles of the playoffs? The Nets 65 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: without continuity or the Sixers with their various weaknesses. 66 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Philadelphia seventy six Ers. And 67 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 3: it's not because I'm from Philly. 68 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 5: I think the talking point that everybody is missing is 69 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 5: the fact that the Sixers are likely to get the 70 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 5: number one seed without Kevin Durant and James hard and missing. 71 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 5: And I'm big on the accumulation factor of different series. 72 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 5: So if the Nets get the number two seed, that 73 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 5: means they're gonna have to go through Milwaukee and Philadelphia. 74 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 5: And I think that tier of teams, Milwaukee, Philadelphia and 75 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 5: Brooklyn they're a step above everybody else. So if you 76 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 5: have to go through Milwaukee and in Philadelphia and you 77 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 5: have problems with room protection, you really can't stop anybody inside. 78 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: How do you make it? 79 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 5: How do you make it through those that gauntlet of 80 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 5: teams a lot and it still have to play the 81 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 5: team in the Western Conference. So I'm going with the Sixers. 82 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 5: I think it's a pretty easy choice. 83 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: I like it. 84 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: I like you the that you are not going with 85 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: the easy answer here, brandonlitear from you before I wig in. 86 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I also think it's an easy choice. But 87 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 4: I don't think that the Sixers are the easy choice, 88 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 4: so that's interesting. I don't really care that James Harden 89 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 4: has re injured his hamstring as far as titlelogs go, 90 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: Like the first round matchup is going to just be 91 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 4: a walkover in all likelihood, and by the time that 92 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: we get to games that matter, it's gonna be like 93 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 4: June and James Harden will be fine, and Kevin Durant 94 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 4: will be fine, and Kyrie Irving will be fine, and 95 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 4: those three guys will be a lot better than fine. 96 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 4: They'll be playing together and they'll be really good. And 97 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 4: I'm not that afraid of having to play Milwaukee instead 98 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 4: of you know, Boston or Miami or someone in the 99 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 4: second round. Like I'd prefer the other team, of course, 100 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 4: but that's not enough for me to swing things if 101 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 4: i'm the Nets, and I think that they think that 102 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 4: way as well. I just think we've said all season, like, 103 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 4: when you've got those three guys, you just have so 104 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 4: many answers in a playoff series. There's just so many. 105 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 4: There's three guys that can just go win a game 106 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 4: right now by myself tonight, just because and Philadelphia has one. 107 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 4: Probably we're not even positive because we haven't seen it 108 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 4: yet in the playoffs from Joelle Embiid. But it's not 109 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: gonna be Ben Simmons, not gonna be Tobias Harris. Those 110 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 4: guys aren't just gonna go win you the game tonight, 111 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 4: or win you the series or takeover. I don't think 112 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 4: that they have that same gear that the other three, 113 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 4: the Three Stars and the Nets, and to me, Philadelphia, 114 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 4: I just don't see. I don't know that they have 115 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 4: enough possible answers to the questions that can come to 116 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 4: win a title, whatever questions are gonna come up in 117 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 4: four different series and four different styles, in whatever whatever 118 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 4: things that might come. I think the Nets have so 119 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: many possible answers. If the Nets stay healthy, I don't 120 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 4: think this is even close to me. The nets question 121 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 4: marks are the injuries. But if I think that they're 122 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 4: going to mostly stay healthy, and I have to think 123 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: that for now, none of these injuries right now worrying 124 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,119 Speaker 4: me super long term, And I just I don't trust 125 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 4: Philadelphia to have answers for a series in a row 126 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: yet until I I mean, I guess until I see it. 127 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 4: They're just gonna have to show me that they have 128 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 4: the answers. Even if they get out of the East, 129 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna like them against most any of the 130 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 4: choices in the West. 131 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: What's interesting here is right now I at MGM, the 132 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: Sixers have longer odds than the Bucks. That's really interesting 133 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: the Bucks. The Sixers are zeroing in on the number 134 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: one seed, and like Brahim said, their path is a 135 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: lot east easier, and yet they're plus one thousand and 136 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: the Bucks are plus eight hundred. I think that's really 137 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: that's fascinating to me. I have some concerns with the Sixers. 138 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: I think you're over. I will say this, I think 139 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: Tobias Harris can have a game, right like, if it's 140 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: if it's three to one, or if it's three two. 141 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: Let's say, and you're going in a game six, I 142 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: think Tobias can step up and win you game six 143 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: in order to get you to a game seven. I 144 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: don't think Ben Simmons can have a game. Unfortunately, it's 145 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: I love everything that Simmons does. I just don't think 146 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: you need a guy that could rise up and hit 147 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: mid drank shoppers, So you just do you just need 148 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: a pull up shooter and they a'll have it like 149 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: they have a spot up shooter in SETH. But I 150 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: don't trust. I've compared this this Sixers team a little 151 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: bit to the Celtics of two thousand and eight, right 152 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: where it's like if Simmons is Ray Allen because he's 153 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: a specialist Ray Ray was a shooter, right, but not 154 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: like super Din at the rim, but Simon's a super 155 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: dynamic at the rim but can't shoot and Embat is 156 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: like KG. Then like can Dibias Harris be your Paul Pierce? 157 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: And like that seems like that seemed the answer like 158 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: on service seems like no, of course not. What are 159 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: you talking about Paul Pierce as a Hall of Famer? 160 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: But I mean it is an interesting question. I also 161 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: look at it and say, you know, Brandon, you did 162 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: say that You're like, I'm not worried about the first round, Okay, 163 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: So I just I'm not willing to complete I do. 164 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: I'm not in on them. I'm just not willing to 165 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: completely disregard the heat right now, because right now the 166 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: seventh I know you are the seven eight would be 167 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: Heat versus Hornets. I trust the Heat to get that done. 168 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: If you are the Nets and you go into a 169 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: second round series and you are not, and you're like, oh, 170 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: we're just going to figure it out on the fly, 171 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: the Heat or not the team to do that against. 172 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 2: Like I would not advise screwing around versus the Miami Heat. 173 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: They have too much talent, They're too well coached, they 174 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: have too much versatility. Like I'm not saying they'll get 175 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: they'll get knocked off. I'm still very high on the Nets, 176 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: but I'm very curious about that. I can't figure out 177 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: the Bucks Nets matchup in my head. I can't figure 178 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 2: it out. I really can't. Staying home on Joe Harris, 179 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: which is what they will do in drop coverage, seems 180 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: really good. But you can't play drop versus Kyrie like 181 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: you literally will go off for sixty points a game. 182 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: I don't know who, Like. 183 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: You have guys that can probably like hang with Kate, 184 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: with with Katie, I don't know who guards hard Like 185 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: it's a it's a really confusing matchup for me. I 186 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 2: just I don't know what to make of Nets Bucks. 187 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: But you know what you said earlier this year, and 188 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: I think you actually got me on board. 189 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 5: The Nets don't have anybody to build that wall with 190 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 5: to stop Giannis, like Yiannis can legitimately average forty in 191 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 5: that series. 192 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: And I think. 193 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 5: These these these two teams played in February and it 194 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 5: was pretty much a one point win for the Nets. 195 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 5: And I think that's a series where it where the 196 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 5: Bucks are really live. And the fact that you have 197 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 5: to go through Mbo and Joel mb and back to 198 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 5: back series potentially for a team that really can't stop 199 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 5: anybody at the rim, like they struggled with Willie Hern 200 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 5: and Golden. 201 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: Is at points in that game on Monday Night. 202 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 5: So I just I just think I think it's it's 203 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 5: it's just too tough to overcome that accumulation factor and 204 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 5: then have to play the team in the West. If 205 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 5: you just so happened to beat Giannis and mb you're 206 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 5: gonna have to deal with Anthony Davis or Kawhile Leonard. 207 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 4: It's just too much, all right, him, you were in 208 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 4: on the Nets like a month ago, like we were. 209 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: We had a podcast about a month ago. 210 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 5: I'm still I'm still on the Nets, but I mean 211 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 5: they asked me who if we're talking about who she 212 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 5: had better finals sides? Like right now, the finals odds 213 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 5: are Nets minus one ten and they have all these 214 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 5: injuries and they. 215 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: Have to go through the two of the best teams 216 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: in the East. 217 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 5: So it's just like, I gotta choose the Sixers, and 218 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 5: even though I think the Nets are better, So. 219 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 4: You're taking this because of the odds, or would you 220 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 4: make the Sixers the favorite? 221 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 5: I still think the Nets are a slight favorite, but 222 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 5: it's not as big as it was before because the 223 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 5: accumulation factor. 224 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: Sounds aout right number. Question number two, what number would 225 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: you have to get Steph Curry at to take him 226 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: to win MVP? Right now? Brand new and'll start with you. Yeah, 227 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: he's plus two thousand right now at MGM twenty one. 228 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 4: This is awesome. I love what we're seeing. I woke 229 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 4: up excited today just because Steph Curry is playing tonight. 230 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 4: Like remember that, remember when Curry was playing and you 231 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 4: just watched That's it, that's it didn't matter nothing else, 232 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 4: whoever the opponent was, You just had to watch Steph 233 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 4: Curry play. 234 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: I need to pause, and I need to note something 235 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: because I forgot to notice this. Last week we did 236 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 2: an hour episode. We did it over an hour and 237 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: twenty minutes. Among the many things we talked about last week, 238 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 2: the original pop was it was an hour and twenty minutes. 239 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: I had stuff to get it down. One of the 240 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: things that we cut was Brandon talking at length about 241 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 2: taking Steph Curry at that time to be the NBA 242 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: scoring leader and his MVP odds. And then immediately after that, 243 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: Steph had like another three games of awesomeness and all 244 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: of that cut down. So I am giving Brandon right 245 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: now his victory lap. He was completely right, this would 246 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 2: be a great time to cash out on those you 247 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: have basically cut. Like if they allowed to cash out 248 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 2: on the book you use, they would have allowed like it. 249 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 2: It would have basically been what like a fifty percent 250 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: increase or more in value based off of how much 251 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 2: the odds moved. So Brandon was ahead of this. Brandon 252 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: made this point, and I had to cut stuff because 253 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: these two talked too much and I had to get 254 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: it down or Matt Mitchell was gonna kill me. So 255 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: there you go, Randon. 256 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 4: Thank you. I accept accept this rose and this was 257 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 4: my back to the future for the week, So I'm 258 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: just gonna throw it in right now. When we were 259 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 4: going to talk about this last week. When we did 260 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 4: talk about it, at the time, Curry was four to 261 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 4: one to be the scoring champ and was coming up 262 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 4: quickly on Bailly since has passed him. They're playing each 263 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 4: other tonight, so that's interesting. Although this is off the 264 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 4: books now at at MGM, I think they kind of 265 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 4: see where this is heading. He was twelve to one 266 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 4: the week before, which was actually my lamenting last week 267 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 4: that we couldn't get it at twelve to one anymore, 268 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 4: but that we could still at four to one MVP. 269 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 4: He has gone from fifty to one to twenty to 270 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 4: one this week. My elament last week was that he 271 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 4: was at one hundred to one and was a little 272 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 4: longer even the week before that. My fear for this 273 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 4: answer is that I think that it's too late. We're 274 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 4: too late. The value has gone twenty to one. I 275 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 4: don't see a ton of value there. I would sprinkle 276 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 4: a little bit, perhaps just because it's gonna be fun. 277 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 4: It's gonna be a fun ride, just to keep keep 278 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 4: riding this. Each night that Steph shows up and drops 279 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 4: forty five and ten three pointers again, like that's just 280 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:10,479 Speaker 4: a line that we can just do in human accomplishments. 281 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 4: Like Rahim doesn't believe in human accomplishment, but Rahiim, you 282 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 4: gotta watch Steph Curry because I guess he's just not human. 283 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 4: He's just doing stuff that we're not supposed to do. 284 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 4: And yeah, I don't know what the line is twenty 285 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 4: to one. I'm not gonna take it too much further 286 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 4: than that because I already have one hundred to one. 287 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 4: But I don't think it's gonna happen. I think he 288 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 4: can make a push for a second, but at the 289 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 4: end of the day, he's not gonna pass Jokic in 290 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: the standings. He's not gonna get out of the play 291 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 4: in game. We're not gonna pick an MVP from a 292 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 4: seven or eight seed. This is super fun. I would 293 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 4: love to see it. I'd love to believe, but I 294 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 4: don't think he has a month of this still in 295 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,239 Speaker 4: him and shooting is going to even out about. 296 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 5: It, I'm gonna go within. I think the numbers should 297 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 5: be around on the one. I mean, my projection model 298 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 5: has them getting like nine percent of the MVP shares. 299 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 5: I mean, they're a nice seed right now. 300 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: You know, when I look at. 301 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 5: This Warrior scene, Steph Curry's averaging forty points a game 302 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 5: over the last eleven games, and you're just seven and four, 303 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 5: Like you got to win some game. I mean his 304 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 5: I mean it's not his fault that his team meets stake, 305 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 5: but it's just like historically MVPs just don't come from 306 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 5: a seven for eighth seed. So it's just like, I 307 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 5: don't see any value of betting this other than you know, 308 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 5: betting get last week, like Brandon said, and getting the 309 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 5: cash oft value. 310 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 4: What I'm curious, Matt, you've brought up before wishing that 311 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 4: we could bat on like MVP finish. So if there 312 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 4: was a way, I guess Matt, as you're answering, what 313 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 4: would be your odds on Steph Curry finishing top three 314 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 4: in the MVP race. 315 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: That's a really good question. I don't have the odds 316 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: memory like Raheem does, so I have to pull up 317 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: our odds calculator on actionnetwork dot Com. I would take 318 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: Steph at anything better, anything better than minus one point 319 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: fifty if you get him better than that. I think 320 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 2: right now, as much as MBT has been good, this 321 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: entire year and as many advocates. So here's a big problem. 322 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: A lot of the same people that you have heard 323 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: advocating for Joel over Nicole Jokic are the same people 324 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,359 Speaker 2: that love Steph Curry and they have been also advocating 325 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: for him. So, like where we're at right now is 326 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: everyone's like it has to be Jokic. I don't necessarily 327 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: want it, Like this is not me. I think it 328 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: should be Yokic, and I think he deserves it and 329 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: should be voted for. But like the voters in large 330 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: part are like, I don't necessarily want to vote for Jokic, 331 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: but how do I deny the numbers, the impact everything else. 332 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: Plus we have like a lot of evidence that group 333 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: think it's like there's a natural attraction as the season 334 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: goes on to one candidate and that they want to 335 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: take in the majority, which is what we saw in 336 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: a straw pole from ESPN at ninety to five. So 337 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 2: you got him there. I think I think EMBIID lost 338 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: a lot in that, Like one games should not matter, 339 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 2: but they do matter. Curry basically just dismantling EMBIID sixers 340 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 2: on Monday on National TV matters, especially this late in 341 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 2: the season, Steph is more fun than Embiid. Steph is 342 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: as beloved as Embiid is, probably and more so. The 343 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: narrative story is great of you know, the two time 344 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 2: MVP is back to show you who the best shooter 345 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: in the whole world is. Three point shots. I don't 346 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: understand it, but three point shots do something in the 347 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: human brain like I really want to do, like a 348 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: neurochemical study, because people's reactions when somebody makes a three pointer, 349 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: a wild three pointer especially, are insane. If you put 350 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: a dude in the blender in the post, people are like, oh, 351 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 2: good move. If you just like raise up and throw up, 352 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: vombit up a shot from forty five feet, people lose 353 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 2: their minds. So I think Steph should be honestly be 354 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 2: like I would I would want. I think Steph will 355 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: finish number two based off of the projection of how 356 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: he's going. I don't have any real reason to think 357 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: him slowing it like he will slow down at some point. 358 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 2: Steph doesn't do this for like entire seasons. He has 359 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: dips and valleys since twenty sixteen. He will hit a 360 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 2: stretch where he you know, doesn't shoot as well, or 361 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: he'll get nicked or or you know, he'll get he'll 362 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: bruise an arm or something. But I also don't know 363 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 2: how much longer, Like Embiid's gonna have to push it, 364 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: because the nets are basically not going to chase like 365 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: they're just they're not going to chase for that one. 366 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 2: And so I think the Sixers will put distance between 367 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 2: them and then Embid sits and if Curry is still 368 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 2: rattling these off through the end of the season, I 369 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 2: think that he's able able to get there. I would 370 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: take like I would take Curry at twenty to one 371 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: right now, like I will take Curry. I'm gonna I 372 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 2: haven't done it yet, but I'm gonna take Curry at 373 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 2: twenty to one. I still think there's value there. I 374 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: just can't really stress enough. Like they don't want to 375 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: vote for for Yo Kisch, Like I don't have a 376 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: reason for you. I say, I don't have the explanation. 377 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: But I'm not the only one that's noticed this. The 378 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: problem with this is that because I covered Denver, there's 379 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: an idea that I'm creating, like a nobody believes in 380 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 2: us category. I moved to Denver like ten years ago. 381 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: I'm like I'm a Grizzlies fan, okay, Like this is 382 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: not a thing for me, Like I cover the team 383 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: and I do try and provide them with more of 384 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: a national perspective, because I don't think they get a 385 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: lot of it. But at the same time, like I 386 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: just would, I would be advocating for Yokic no matter 387 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: where I lived. 388 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: If I still lived in Kansas City, which. 389 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: Is where I was before I moved out here, I 390 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: would still be advocating for Yokic. He is clearly the 391 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 2: best candidate. But I am telling you, Like Zachlo had 392 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: a monologue the other day on his podcast, and in 393 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: it he noted, he's like there's just a lot of 394 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: really skewed arguments being made to try and find somebody else. 395 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: I cannot feel confident that Yokic is gonna win when 396 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: so many people seem just genuinely livid that they have 397 00:19:54,359 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 2: to vote for the six'. Ten not JACKED servi, impasser 398 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: like they're just mad about. It and so until that, 399 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: happens LIKE i think there's there's still gonna be, value 400 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 2: especially on somebody Like, curry who everybody just. LOVES i 401 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: don't Think curry is gonna be able to win enough. 402 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 2: Games there's too far, back like they, REALLY i, mean 403 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: the only the numbers like they're this is what's. Crazy everyone's, like, 404 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: well what? About? What? What what about the fact that 405 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 2: when you know it's it's When curry doesn't, play you, know, 406 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: there they can't win anything When curry doesn't. Play there 407 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 2: are only six games ahead of five. Hundred When curry does, 408 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 2: play The nuggets are seventeen games above five. Hundred what 409 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: are we doing? Here, yeah what's their. 410 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 4: Record when doesn't? Play oh, wait oh, wait happens he does? Always, 411 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 4: yeah to, ME i agree with all of. THAT i 412 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 4: also think that That Sixers warriors game the other, night 413 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 4: like we've we've done this conversation now for like a 414 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 4: week or. Two The yokic is THE. Mvp what are 415 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 4: we talking? 416 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: About? 417 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 4: Conversation and it feels like we have nearly run out of, 418 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 4: Time AND i could see a world, where like about 419 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 4: a week from, Now jokic just had another big, game 420 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 4: and you, know like he does every. Night LIKE i 421 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: could see about a week from now where the media 422 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 4: kind of, decides all, right you know, what if we're 423 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 4: gonna have to give it To, Yokic, fine let's switch 424 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 4: the conversation and talk about who's going to be a 425 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 4: second on our? Ballot now is It? Embiid is It? 426 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 4: Steph who is? It who is? It and and just 427 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 4: kind of like move on From jokic by admitting he's THE, 428 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 4: mvp but being more excited, About, okay what's the next, 429 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 4: Conversation who's who's, second and like getting excited About steph 430 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 4: for that. Race AND i could see that. Developing it's 431 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 4: really hard for me to envision what the scenario is 432 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 4: for someone to Catch jokic at this, point even given 433 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 4: all the things that we just. SAID i just think 434 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 4: it's too close to the, end And embiid is the 435 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 4: candidate to do. It Like steph is coming from so far, 436 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 4: behind and even if he's taking three steps for every 437 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 4: two steps the other guys are taking right, now it's 438 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 4: just so much ground to make. UP i Think embiid 439 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 4: was the guy to do, it AND i think this 440 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 4: last week just made too much. 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Nevada thanks for. 470 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 6: Listening now back to the. 471 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 2: Show let's stay with the awards and let's go to 472 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 2: would you cash out Your Anthony Edwards rookie the year? 473 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: Futures now if you're allowed the odds of flip to. 474 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: Gentlemen Lamela ball is supposed to return this regular. Season 475 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: The hornets said yesterday that they are hopeful that he 476 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: will return for the regular. Season there's indications that he's 477 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: back on the court playing when he given his injury 478 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 2: and the early indications that they expected him to play 479 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 2: when his odds dropped to plus two. Hundred every BOOK i, 480 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: HAVE i put money on plus two. HUNDRED i put 481 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: money On LaMelo at plus, two which is great BECAUSE 482 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 2: i have to pay off the money THAT i owe 483 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: justin fan for Betting Obie toppin Versus LaMelo ball versus the. 484 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: Field don't Think Obie toppin is gonna get. IT i 485 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: just doesn't seem. Likely history will tell my friends who 486 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: the better player. Is but at this, point the odds 487 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 2: have now, flipped And LaMelo ball AT mgm is minus 488 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: two point fifty like it has. Flipped So. Raheem palmer's 489 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: time to cash out As Anthony edwards futures if you 490 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: got him in at a good price before the move 491 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 2: or after when everybody thought That LaMelo was gonna miss 492 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: the end of the. 493 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 5: Season you, know speaking of, BETS i Think i'm close 494 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 5: to clenching That sixers Over. 495 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 3: Celtics bet with, you SO i think you're can owe 496 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 3: me some money as. 497 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, yeah a banner year for. 498 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 3: Me i'm catching. OUT i, MEAN i think it's the easy. 499 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 3: Decision it's kind of it's kind of similar to. 500 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 5: Reverse everybody's gonna vote For, LaMelo and there's a reason 501 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 5: why the books went to minus two. Eighty so cash 502 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 5: out those. Futures LaMelo's gonna, win especially when he gets 503 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 5: back on the. Court The hornets are a good team 504 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 5: during the race for a playoff, chances so they sty 505 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 5: should Be LaMelo's gonna win. 506 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 4: This, Brandon, Yeah LaMelo's gonna win. It i'm not catching 507 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 4: out only BECAUSE i think the value is. Gone LIKE 508 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 4: i think you've made your. Bed your window to cash 509 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 4: out was like four minutes after The LaMelo news, broke 510 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 4: and then five minutes after it was too late because 511 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 4: the odds moved and they closed. It and LIKE i 512 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 4: looked at the odds this morning and was, Like, okay, 513 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 4: WELL i like being. Contrarian Is ant the contrarian pick? 514 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 4: Now AND i don't think that it's over only in, that, 515 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 4: Like LaMelo is a rookie who's barely played and he's 516 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 4: gonna come, back and we don't know what he's gonna look, 517 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 4: Like like it's very plausible that he comes back plays 518 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 4: three or four. Games isn't very good because he's not 519 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 4: totally healthy and ready to go, yet and then they 520 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 4: shut him. Down it's just too much and we'll try. 521 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 4: Again next to, You, like that's that would be, Normal 522 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 4: that would be a normal outcome to. Happen and Maybe 523 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 4: ant has a good end of the. SEASON i think 524 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 4: if the odds keep dropping and Suddenly aunt is like 525 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 4: four to one or. SOMETHING i think it could be 526 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 4: an interesting play right Before LaMelo actually plays. Again but 527 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 4: right now we're just stuck in the, middle and you 528 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 4: just got to ride it and hope that something swings 529 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 4: in your favor if you still have your aunt Features. 530 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: Question number four is this the Year Paul george shakes 531 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: his Playoff foible's reputation is this year playoff pe becomes 532 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 2: playoff P NOW i hate this narrative BECAUSE i, remember 533 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: LIKE i have Enough Member barris to remember that, playoff 534 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: That Paul george was a beast in the twenty thirteen 535 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 2: and twenty fourteen playoffs and was. AWESOME i also don't 536 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: think that it was his fault that The thunder lost 537 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: to The blazers Because Billy donovan decided to never put 538 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 2: two on ball Versus Damian lillard for some goddamn. Reason 539 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: and that playoff That Paul george had two broken shoulders 540 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: that he both had surgery. On but there's this perception of. 541 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: Him george has been playing absolutely amazing over the last. 542 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: MONTH i got the what about? Him why isn't he 543 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: in THE mvp conversation tweets last? Night because everybody belongs 544 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: in THE mvp conversation just absolutely EVERYBODY i apparently deserve 545 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: to be. In SO i will ask You Raheem, palmer 546 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 2: the first. Believer is this the year That Paul george 547 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 2: changes the playoff narrative about? 548 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 5: Him you, KNOW i was about to say the same 549 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 5: thing as. YOU i, Mean Paul george has had some great. 550 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 5: PLAYOFFS i just don't know where this narrative that he 551 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 5: stinks in the playoffs come. FROM i, mean, obviously you 552 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 5: know he didn't perform well in The, Bubble BUT i 553 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 5: MEAN i take the bubble with a grain of. Salt 554 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 5: you had guys playing above their. Head you had guys 555 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 5: being depressed and just didn't want to be. There But 556 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 5: Paul george is you, Know he's had some monsters playoff. 557 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 5: Seats like even in the series against The, blazers he 558 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 5: scored thirty six in that last he scored thirty six 559 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 5: In game six. 560 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 3: On fourteen to twenty. Shooting he has some monster. 561 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 5: Games next, series even Against Joe, eagles he's put UP 562 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 5: i think game one he was thirty six on thirteen 563 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 5: to twenty. 564 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 3: Shooting Paul george is gonna be, fine you. 565 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 5: Know and most of the playoff Series i've seen him 566 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 5: in he's, been you, know one of the best players 567 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 5: in the, Series like even in That raptor series in 568 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 5: twenty and, sixteen he almost single handedly won. That but 569 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 5: at some, point you, know the bitch's got to do their. 570 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 5: Job he held his own twenty seventeen against The. 571 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 3: Cavs he'll be. Fine The clippers are gonna be. 572 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 5: FINE i, think you, know other than The, Lakers They're 573 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 5: they're gonna be a favorite to. 574 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: Anybody AND i think he's gonna show improve this. 575 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 4: Year Ran SO i, say, NO i agree THAT i 576 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 4: don't know Why Paul george has their reputation he. Does 577 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 4: he was awesome for a bunch Of pacers runs and 578 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 4: he is not like he's been terrible since. Then, however 579 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 4: reputations are what they, are and for whatever, reason we 580 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 4: have all agreed That Kawhi leonard is a basketball god 581 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 4: who does nothing wrong and is A hall Of famer 582 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 4: and should have won like ten MVPs by. Now And 583 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 4: Paul george. Sucks he always comes up. Short it's his. 584 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 4: Fault he's the. Guy AND i feel Like Paul george 585 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 4: is Like Kevin love Or Chris. Bosh now where the 586 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 4: question you're asking me, is are The clippers going to 587 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 4: win the, title because if they don't win the, title 588 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 4: we have to blame, someone and we can't Blame kawhi 589 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 4: because he's, impeachable so we have to Blame Paul. George 590 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 4: AND i don't think The clippers are going to win the, 591 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 4: title SO i don't think he's going to shake his. 592 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: Reputation question number, five how are you going about The 593 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 2: lakers When ad is, back Before lebron rahem them size 594 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: from your model about what that's going to look. 595 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 5: LIKE i Think i'm going to be better in the 596 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 5: same WAY i bet. Them, Now i'm just gonna be 597 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 5: picking my spots on different teams because you, know Obviously 598 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 5: Anthony davis is, great BUT i mean this team doesn't 599 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 5: have a lot of ball handlers outside Of shrewder And, 600 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 5: Lebron SO i just they're not a team THAT i 601 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 5: want to be just you, know playing every. 602 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: Night, NO i MEAN i know that you're always it's 603 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: always about the. NUMBER i get. That i'm just, saying, 604 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: like is it it sounds like from, you you don't 605 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: think that they're going to be underrated by the market 606 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: when he comes. Back you think it's probably the. 607 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 3: Opposite, yeah without a Doubt. 608 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 4: Brandon Should Anthony davis be in THE mvp Pickture. 609 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: Brandon anderson is a, Hater. 610 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 4: Guys not everybody has to be in THE vp. Conversation, 611 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 4: look we've Seen Anthony davis play with a bunch of 612 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 4: average players like that's that Was Anthony davis all those 613 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 4: before The. Lakers it wasn't very. Good So i'm not 614 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 4: that excited to bet on. Them i'll probably be looking 615 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 4: to fade it just because they're gonna boost the. Line 616 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 4: it's The, lakers it's already, boosted and Now davis is, 617 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 4: Back But i'm not the excited about that. Team they Need. 618 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: Lebron Lebron, james oldest starting player in THE, nba number. 619 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: Six who's in the most Trouble, Dallas portland Or Memphis? Brandon, yes, okay. 620 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 4: OKAY i think IF i had to pick one of the, 621 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 4: THREE i Think. PORTLAND i wrote about the game that 622 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 4: they're playing The nuggets, tonight AND i Think matt you 623 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 4: said On twitter last night like this kind of feels 624 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 4: like The blazers last, stand like they're they're they're maybe 625 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 4: RUSHING i hope, not but they might be rushing game 626 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 4: back to play in this One nurkic is. Back they 627 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 4: really needed to beat The clippers. Yesterday they blew it 628 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 4: and lost by a point at the, end and they're. 629 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 4: Slipping the whispers are staying to come about The Terry stotts, 630 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,239 Speaker 4: thing and you, know this team has kind of been 631 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 4: what it is for a while and it's moving in 632 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 4: the wrong. Direction AND i feel like once those whispers, 633 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 4: start and once those things, start it's it's really hard 634 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 4: to slow. Down their defense is. Abysmal they can't defend. 635 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 4: Anybody and you, Know dallas has has been quite good 636 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 4: Since february. First they've been closer to the top tier 637 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 4: Of west teams than the rest of the. Group memphis 638 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 4: is about to Get Jaron jackson back and has stayed 639 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 4: where they're at despite a lot of things all. YEAR 640 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 4: i JUST i don't have a lot of belief In 641 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 4: portland left. 642 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Terry stadds. 643 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: Experience rahian go With. 644 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 5: DALLAS i can't get a handle on This dallas. TEAM i, 645 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 5: mean this team is their offensive minded team that stinks on. 646 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: Offense Raheem palmer is falling out of. 647 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 5: LOVE i mean over the last COUPLE i, mean let's be, real, 648 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 5: like over the last couple of. Weeks you, know you're 649 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 5: just seventy for offensive, rating scored one hundred and thirteen 650 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 5: points for one hundred. Possessions i'm not really high on The, 651 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 5: blazers but at least The blazers have a top five. 652 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 5: Offense This dallas, team they're not really good on. Defense 653 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 5: they're not really good. Offense it's just It's luca and 654 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 5: a bunch of. GUYS i, mean they should have lost 655 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 5: to The. Places they should have lost to The. Grizzlies last, 656 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 5: week they struggled against The. KNICKS i mean they lost 657 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 5: against The. Kings i'm just not impressed with this team at. 658 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 5: All they did dropped four out of the last five, 659 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 5: games SO i don't know if they've been one of 660 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 5: the top teams in The western. Conferences i'm just disappointed with. 661 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 5: THEM kp is not the guy that we thought he would. 662 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 5: Be luca's, great but they gott to revamped this. ROSTER 663 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 5: i don't know What Harali bob is. 664 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: Doing one of the BEST nba betters of all, time 665 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: but they gotta do. 666 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 2: SOMETHING i will say That portland is the choice. Here. 667 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: MEMPHIS i actually think like they just had bad. Luck 668 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 2: they just they just have had bad, luck they could 669 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 2: have won the. Game Versus, denver joh tried to but 670 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: an off the backboard jam to win the game in, 671 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: overtime which was bold but probably not the best. Decision 672 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 2: Jared Jackson junior probably gets back this. Week we'll talk 673 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: about him in a. Second The portland game is really. 674 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 2: INTERESTING i could see them winning this, game which you'll 675 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: probably have already happened by how you hear this podcast Versus, 676 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: denver and that kind of like kicks starting a. Run 677 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 2: but the big thing that's kind of becoming a parent 678 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: if you pay attention to The beat, writers who have 679 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 2: always been very defensive Of stots for like good, reasons 680 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 2: because they know he's a very good. Coach like that 681 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 2: started to shift a little. Bit and one of the 682 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 2: things that's become a persistent kind of question is how 683 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 2: is it That portland has Added Robert, Covington they Added 684 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 2: Rodney hood before they traded, Him they Added Norman, Powell 685 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: they added all these, guys they have use Of nurkic 686 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 2: and the defense still. Sucks how is that the? Deal 687 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 2: this team feels very much like a team that needs 688 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 2: to get it together and have an emotional, Push and 689 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 2: because the season is so, hard they can't find that, 690 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 2: energy and THAT i think is why they're in like 691 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 2: a really tough spot. Here they're o and seven versus 692 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 2: teams that are top ten offense and. Defense their record 693 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 2: versus teams that are above five or five hundred or 694 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 2: better is the worst amongst all of The Western conference playoff, 695 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: teams including the ones in the plan in they can't 696 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 2: beat good, teams and that's a real like you're gonna 697 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 2: have to beat good teams at some. Point they're IN 698 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 2: i think real Danger. DALLAS i don't, know Like dallas 699 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 2: might just like My dallas might benefit just by. Default 700 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 2: like that might be Is memphis is too young to 701 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 2: get it together And portland melts. 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Division The Charlotte 719 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 2: hornets are plus twenty two hundred at THAT, mgm the 720 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 2: official odds provider of The Action network, podcast and this 721 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 2: to me is a little. Confusing so The hawks are 722 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 2: thirty two and twenty, six The hornets are twenty eight 723 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 2: and twenty. NINE i understand that they've The hawks have 724 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 2: fewer games. PLAYED i understand that The hawks are six 725 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 2: games over five hundred and The hornets are one game. 726 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 2: UNDER i understand all of, That, however like this is 727 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 2: only a three game differential in the lost. Column atlanta 728 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 2: has been inconsistent all, year and yet we're getting twenty 729 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 2: two to. ONE i don't really understand, This Brandon. ANDERSON 730 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 2: i don't understand why The Charlotte hornets are such long, 731 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 2: odds especially if they Get That's LaMelo ball back And 732 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 2: Gordon hayward at some. 733 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 4: Point, YEAH i. Agree we were looking at division odds 734 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 4: AND i was looking through AND i kind of feel 735 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 4: like the divisions, are the division races are. OVER i 736 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 4: feel like the leaders are what they. Are the one 737 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 4: division odd that's not a favorite that caught my attention 738 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 4: was This hornets twenty two to. One and it's not 739 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 4: even necessarily a bet on The hornets as much as 740 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 4: it's just being very very happy to bet against The 741 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 4: hawks and The. Heat Like i've not been in on 742 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 4: The heat all. SEASON i still don't get excited about The. 743 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 4: HEAT i think The hawks are. SOLID i think The 744 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 4: hawks are maybe better than we're giving them credit, for 745 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 4: but they're still not that. Great AND i still don't 746 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 4: be at all surprised to see them like lose four 747 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 4: to six, suddenly and you, know The hornets win a few, 748 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 4: games AND i don't, know twenty two to one is 749 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 4: what is that like four percent? CHANCE i just don't 750 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 4: think it should be a four percent. CHANCE i GOT 751 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 4: i think The hornets have better than any four percent. 752 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 4: CHANCE i think it's a decent long odds to. Take 753 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 4: i'm not that excited about who The hornets, are but 754 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 4: they're just kind of a middle team that wins some. 755 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 4: Games we know this by. Now we know that they 756 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 4: show up and clutch somehow every. Time And i'm willing 757 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 4: to bet against The heat and The. 758 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 2: Hawks i'm not allowed to bet on us BECAUSE i 759 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 2: can't bet on The Charlotte hornets ever, again because they 760 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,439 Speaker 2: live to drain the money from my wallet and send 761 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 2: it into the. Void, So, raim what do you think 762 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 2: about those? 763 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 5: ODDS i don't like them at. ALL i, MEAN i 764 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 5: think The hornets have fourteen games. Left they might be 765 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 5: a favorite in like three of. THEM i mean they 766 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 5: HAVE i think they had their favorite Against, cleveland in 767 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 5: a favorite against Probably. Detroit they Played detroit, twice and 768 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 5: then Maybe orlando or Or. CHTACKLE i, Mean i'm giving them 769 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 5: four games in which they're a favorite. Against SO i 770 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 5: just and they have to make up ground at the same. 771 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 5: Time and then obviously The hawks are going to get 772 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 5: some of their guys. BET i Think John collins returns to. 773 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 5: NIGHT i think this is then. Money let's go to number. 774 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 5: Eight so this is in regards to in a playoff. 775 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 2: Series i'm not even necessarily talking about betting them to 776 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 2: win the. SERIES i am talking about finding spots where 777 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 2: you think that they are going to be undervalued by the. 778 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 2: Market the question, is what are The east Teams you're 779 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 2: hoping to get a good matchup for them to bet 780 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 2: as an. Underdog so what do you think is a 781 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 2: team that can take advantage of their matchups in the? 782 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 2: Playoffs like none of us like The east. TEAMS i get, 783 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 2: it they're all. Flawed but what's the team in The 784 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 2: Eastern conference that you're looking for to, Say, LIKE i 785 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 2: think the market is going to undervalue, them, right and 786 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 2: you Say New York. 787 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 4: City start spreading the NEW. 788 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 3: I gotta go with. THEM i, MEAN i know. 789 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 5: What sounds crazy because you, know OBVIOUSLY i got The 790 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 5: New york fan, base BUT i think With thives, coaching 791 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 5: they can steal a couple of. Games they're one of 792 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 5: those teams that it's just gonna sneak up when Somebody 793 00:39:59,239 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 5: So i'm going with. 794 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 3: Them, yeah, OKAY. 795 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 2: I am one hundred percent against. You they're the Team 796 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 2: i'm gonna be probably looking to faith the most here's 797 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 2: Why tibbs teams don't have another. Gear they play so 798 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 2: hard in the regular season they can't go any like 799 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 2: they struggle when everyone tries. Hard like that is the 800 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 2: definition of Like tibbs. Teams, plus you know That New 801 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 2: york is gonna absolutely get like they're gonna be such 802 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 2: a public Team, Rahiem like The knicks are such a 803 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 2: public team in the. 804 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 5: Playoffs that's, true BUT i MEAN i could see them, PLAYING. 805 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 3: I mean here in a fifth seed. 806 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 2: Now mostly just the sign of how little you respect 807 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 2: all the Other east. Teams That's that's mostly What. 808 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 5: I'm just, Saying like what If boston moves up to the, 809 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 5: fourth fourth seed or something like. 810 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,760 Speaker 3: That, yeah it's just it's, Tough. 811 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 4: Brandon, YEAH i don't have a great answer for, this 812 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 4: for the same reason THAT i just have a hard 813 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 4: time talking myself into An east. Team SO i think 814 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,720 Speaker 4: that my answer actually is also In New York, Butklyn 815 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 4: AND i know that sounds crazy because Where's brooklyn the? 816 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 4: Underdog BUT i think they will. BE i think there's 817 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,720 Speaker 4: going to BE i will watch for the game where 818 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 4: The nets just look like they have no idea how 819 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 4: to play basketball and they're down fifteen in the second, 820 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 4: quarter but they're still playing Like New york Or, miami 821 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 4: you Or, boston AND i will bet The nets because 822 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 4: with those, guys as long as The nuts are, HEALTHY 823 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 4: i will bet them to just, Decide, oh we flipped the, 824 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 4: switch we remember how to play, basketball and we stole this. 825 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,280 Speaker 4: Game as as an underdog or as as a moneyline, 826 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 4: favorite they have one of those series where they go 827 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 4: down like two games to, one they blow home. Game 828 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 4: they everyone has the conversation, of, oh look this the 829 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 4: regular season is coming back to haunt. Them they have 830 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,240 Speaker 4: never played basketball, together they don't know how to. Shoot 831 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 4: and THEN i will bet the next at like even 832 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 4: odds or slight underdog, odds so it's not a conventional, 833 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 4: underdog BUT i will be looking to find a spot 834 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 4: to play The nets BECAUSE i think they're that much 835 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 4: better than Your east option as long as they're. 836 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 2: HEALTHY i like how you somehow found a way to 837 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 2: go galaxy braying on the nets as an, Underbelt like 838 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 2: you're so contrarian that that's where you went. 839 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 4: TO i couldn't find any other. 840 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 2: OPTIONS i love it, mine And i'm gonna stare right 841 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 2: at Racking. Palmer as they say this mine is The Boston. 842 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 2: Celtics so, look they've lost a ton of games to. 843 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 2: Injury they've been hit harder BY covid than almost any 844 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 2: other team outside Maybe. Washington, okay they have a switchable, 845 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,720 Speaker 2: defense they have tough shot makers And Jason tatum And Jalen. 846 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 2: Brown they have a clutch player In Kimball walker who 847 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 2: definitely has struggle but still has some games where you're, 848 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 2: like oh, Hey, Kimba like all. Right they still Have Marcus. 849 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 2: Smart they're still very well. Coached even THOUGH i Think 850 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 2: Brad stevens has been overrated in, general now he's getting 851 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 2: to be about accurately, rated if not. Underrated if they're 852 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 2: at a four or five versus The, HAWKS i don't 853 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 2: know what the oddsmaker is gonna put that, At like 854 00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 2: that's gonna be. 855 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 4: INTERESTING i don't think. So The celtics were the other 856 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 4: team THAT i thought about, answering BUT i feel like 857 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 4: they're an. ANSWER i. AGREE i agree with all the 858 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 4: things you just. Said The celtics are another team they 859 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 4: love to just like fall way behind and come way 860 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 4: back or go way ahead and then let the other 861 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 4: team come. Back SO i would be looking for These celtics. 862 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 4: Opportunities LIKE i said with The, NETS i just don't 863 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 4: think they're gonna be around long enough for it to 864 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,320 Speaker 4: matter that. Much like they could come from behind in the, 865 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 4: series down three to one in the first round if 866 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 4: they're playing Like miami Or atlanta or, someone and win the. 867 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 4: Series or they'd come from down fifteen in the game 868 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 4: and win the. Game they have that moxie in. Them 869 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 4: then after the first round and, whatever they're. Done, like 870 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 4: it's not gonna last that. LONG i don't think they 871 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 4: have any chance of being underdog against The. Hawks, THOUGH i. 872 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 2: Have one more for. You what did The heat grab 873 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 2: the six and It's Bucks heat. 874 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 4: Again, Yeah i've been looking at that one and wondering 875 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,280 Speaker 4: if The, heat, like would you put it Past Jimmy 876 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,359 Speaker 4: butler and The heat to tank into the sixth seed 877 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 4: at the end of the season just to Get? Milwaukee 878 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 4: AND i would not put it past them because these 879 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 4: aren't good AND i would IF i were, THEM i 880 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 4: would openly. TANK i would play the worst guys on 881 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 4: the roster and start them just so That milwaukee knows 882 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 4: we're coming for. YOU i want you to know we 883 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 4: are purposely. Losing we want you in the first round 884 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 4: because we know we're gonna beat. 885 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:28,760 Speaker 3: You if. 886 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 5: This is craziness that he can't score points this, Season, 887 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 5: LIKE i just THINK i think people are so reptive 888 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 5: on what they saw last. YEAR i know a lot 889 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 5: of people expect The celtics to beat The, heat WHICH i. 890 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 5: Didn't BUT i, Mean Tala harroll is not the same. 891 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,919 Speaker 5: Guy Victor oladipo was on his last. Legs who knows 892 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 5: if he's coming. Back all of their shooters. Regress this 893 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 5: team can't score. POINTS i mean they almost lost to 894 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 5: The nest the other day in a game in which 895 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 5: cop in WHICH kd got, hurt big. Game THEY i 896 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 5: should have lost that. GAME i Just i'm not impressed 897 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 5: with this team at. All they're a great defensive, team but, 898 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 5: OFFENSIVELY i think The bucks beat them in. 899 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 3: Five. 900 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 2: Wow, okay all, Right, Wow i'm gonna have to chew 901 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 2: through that all. Right west, team same. Question what's The 902 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,399 Speaker 2: west team that you're? LIKE i want TO i want 903 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 2: to see if they get into a good matchup and 904 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 2: bet them as a, dog whether it's game by game 905 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 2: or for the. 906 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 4: Series, Brandon, YEAH i think that it's probably The Dallas. 907 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 4: Mavericks BUT i don't feel great about. It it's of 908 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 4: all the teams that are expected to be, seeded all 909 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 4: the teams that should be an underdog in any, Series east Or, 910 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 4: west they're the team THAT i would feel best about 911 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,280 Speaker 4: because at any, moment in any game or any, series 912 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 4: they can have the best player on the court or 913 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 4: in the. Series AND i don't know IF i think 914 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 4: that about any of those other underdog. Teams And i'm 915 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 4: not Saying luca will, be but he could. Be he 916 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 4: could take that, step he could just take over in a. 917 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 4: Game they do look really good When porzingis is healthy 918 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 4: in to play as, well even if it doesn't happen that. 919 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 4: OFTEN i think there's something like twenty two and eleven 920 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 4: since the start Of, february like genuinely, good like not 921 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 4: quite in that bottom tier of. Teams AND i just, 922 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 4: think as long as you Have, luca you have a 923 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 4: shot and you're GONNA i would give them a, shot 924 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,760 Speaker 4: where most of my other underdog Options i'm not giving 925 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 4: much of a shot. Too so in the first ROUND 926 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 4: i will likely be looking to play The mavericks game 927 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,919 Speaker 4: by game and in the series even to come back 928 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 4: in the, series they're going to likely be playing against 929 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 4: probably The sons of The, clippers two TEAMS i don't 930 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 4: have a ton of confidence, in especially as closing out 931 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 4: sort of, teams you, know like they're teams that are, 932 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 4: unproven that need to show they can win and finish a. 933 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 4: Job and The mavericks feel like a team that would 934 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 4: play with nothing to, lose that could overcome that sort of. 935 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 4: Thing SO i could see. IT i don't know that will. 936 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 4: HAPPEN i watched The mavericks the other. Night it was just, like, 937 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,399 Speaker 4: man this team just, stinks like it's just it's it's 938 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 4: that ceiling THAT i want to be, there that the 939 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 4: numbers think are, there That luca thinks is. THERE i 940 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 4: don't know that it's, there BUT i haven't found it 941 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 4: for many of my other. Options So Dallas, Rain. 942 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 3: I'm Going i'm gonna skip to the second. Round go 943 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 3: with The Phoenix. 944 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 5: SUNS i, mean they're likely gonna be an underdog against 945 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 5: somebody in the second in the second, round. 946 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 3: AND i think they're. 947 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 5: LIVE i, think you, know this is probably one of 948 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 5: the best teams in the league that's still not getting 949 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 5: respect from the. MARKET i, mean in the, playoffs when 950 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 5: the shots get, harder you have two guys And Chris 951 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 5: paul And Devin. Booker Devin booker is in the ninety 952 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 5: seven percent now in mid RACE uvue, Percentage Chris paul is. 953 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 3: In the ninety third. 954 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 5: Percentile this team is top tenant offense and top ten in. 955 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 5: Defense they're championship. Contender does not really be respect being? 956 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 5: Respected to, me they're better than The. Jazz so if 957 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 5: they played The jazz at some point in the, Playoffs 958 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,839 Speaker 5: i'm all over the all over the. SIGNS i think 959 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 5: they're live against The. Clippers as much AS i like The, 960 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 5: clippers they're live against The. Lakers they get to the second, 961 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 5: ROUND i, MIGHT i, MIGHT i might be on The. 962 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 3: Suns. 963 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 2: Yeah so if they get to let's say they grabbed 964 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 2: the one, seed let's say The jazz stumble and, trip 965 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 2: and The jazz grab the one, seed which is still very, 966 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 2: possible and they get The lakers second, ROUND i DON'T 967 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 2: i maybe be really curious to see how the books treat, 968 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 2: that you, know like like what does that line look? 969 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,399 Speaker 2: Like you, know because The lakers were such a big 970 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 2: favorite in so many games last, year but their competition 971 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 2: was also very, Weak so it's, like does that look 972 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 2: like maybe five and a half less like game, One 973 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 2: game One Suns. Lakers you think it's, less you think 974 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 2: it's the Like lakers at, home or like what two 975 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 2: and a. 976 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 5: Half i'm struggling to price that right now BECAUSE i 977 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 5: just DON'T i don't have many metrics on a like 978 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 5: on The lakers full season right, now AND i just 979 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 5: don't know How lebron ad are going to look come. 980 00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 2: In SO i feel, LIKE i, mean part of it, 981 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 2: though is like they have because The lakers are such 982 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 2: a public, team it's got to get it's got to. 983 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,720 Speaker 2: Get like that's maybe the choicest selection because The lakers 984 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 2: are such a public. Team you get you get an 985 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 2: Underrated suns team versus The lakers with a popularity, bump, 986 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 2: right because The clippers are not gonna get that same public. 987 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 2: Support they, won't you, know like if, anything The sharps 988 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 2: are going to go the other. Way, Yeah so like that's. 989 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,879 Speaker 2: GOOD i think that's gonna be really. Interting we're gonna 990 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,919 Speaker 2: do one. More we'll do the other ten next week 991 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 2: in part two of our of our twenty questions because, 992 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 2: particlably we've gone, long because these guys have lots of 993 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 2: saale all the. Time number ten is why did we 994 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 2: not jump On Julius randall to Win Most Improved player? 995 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 1: Earlier Julius, randall. 996 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 2: He's now the heavy. Favorite why DID i don't know 997 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 2: what we were. Thinking we just like we watched every 998 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 2: week as he was a dog To Jeremy, grant who 999 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,800 Speaker 2: clearly was not gonna make the playoffs and clearly was 1000 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 2: playing a little bit of a. Ceiling and we watched 1001 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 2: The knicks, like hang in, there and hang in, there 1002 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,760 Speaker 2: and hang in there in the, playoffs and we never, jumped, 1003 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 2: like we never seriously like grabbed. It why did we? 1004 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 2: Not like he's Very to, Me i'm, like he's obviously gonna, 1005 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 2: Win he's gotta he's he is in The why are 1006 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 2: we not talking about him FOR mvp group of fifty other, Players, Like, 1007 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 2: YEAH i can't believe we let the, Slide LIKE i 1008 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,240 Speaker 2: don't remember us doing this On back to The future 1009 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 2: If i'm. 1010 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 3: WRONG i ACTUALLY i mentioned it at one. 1011 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,360 Speaker 5: Point, Yeah BUT i think the thing, is this is 1012 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 5: probably the deepest field we've ever seen For Most Improved. Player, 1013 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 5: LIKE i think we expected The knicks to regress for various. 1014 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 3: Reasons but THEN i, mean you. 1015 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 5: Also have to look at the fact That Jalen brown 1016 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 5: is having a monster season like. HE i, Mean brandon 1017 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,880 Speaker 5: actually Mentioned Jalen. Brown he's the type of guy who 1018 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,280 Speaker 5: would normally Win Most Improved. 1019 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 3: Player Zach. Levine we mentioned HIM. 1020 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,320 Speaker 1: Nda All Star Zach. 1021 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 5: Levine he's also the type of guy who won The 1022 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 5: Most Improved. 1023 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 3: PLAYER i, mean both of these guys have had forty 1024 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 3: and fifty point games this. 1025 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 5: Year so it's just LIKE i can see where we 1026 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 5: never really made a definitive. Choice and obviously this season 1027 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 5: has been longer than any. Other it feels, like you, 1028 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 5: know we've had A stott Where Kristen wood was the. 1029 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 5: Favorite we had a stat Where Jeremy grant was the. 1030 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 5: Favorite there has been so many. 1031 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 2: Names, yeah so, like, yeah it's gonna Be it's gonna 1032 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 2: Be randal, though like it's very. OBVIOUS i feel, like 1033 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 2: until LIKE i saw that, NUMBER i was, like why 1034 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 2: why have we just not been? Betting why why did 1035 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 2: we not jump on that? 1036 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 3: Earlier? 1037 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 4: YEAH i, AGREE I I i'm. Mad i'm mad that 1038 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 4: we didn't see, it that none of us got. THERE 1039 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 4: i know we have mentioned. It it's it's come up 1040 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 4: and we've just none of us get credit for it 1041 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 4: because none of us grabbed it and pushed for. It for, 1042 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 4: me WHY i missed it is my blinders were on 1043 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 4: For Jalen. Brown he was my preseason. Pick we talked about. 1044 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 4: EARLY i think that HE i think you should be 1045 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 4: like on the. BALLOT i think it should be a top. 1046 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 4: THREE i think he's been really good and really. IMPROVED 1047 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 4: i also know that the most improved winner typically is 1048 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 4: a player that isn't Isn't Jeremy, grant who like is better? 1049 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 4: Now yay more points and stuff. Like the recent most 1050 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 4: improved player winners are guys that make a bigger step 1051 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,720 Speaker 4: into that upper echelon of, players into the ALL nba. 1052 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 4: Conversation for, ME i never Thought Julius randall could get. 1053 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,720 Speaker 4: There he's there, Now he's in that. Conversation The knicks 1054 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 4: are in that, CONVERSATION i. THINK i never Thought Jeremy 1055 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,280 Speaker 4: grant was a real, choice So i've always been looking 1056 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 4: for the other. CANDIDATE i just thought the other candidate 1057 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 4: Was Jalen, brown WHO i think should is in that, 1058 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 4: range the fringe ALL nba range sort of. Conversation BUT 1059 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 4: i kept waiting for The knicks to fall. OFF i 1060 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,240 Speaker 4: kept waiting For Julius randall's legs to fall, apart because 1061 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,879 Speaker 4: that's what happens When tibbs plays you like seventy five 1062 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 4: minutes a, night and it just didn't. Happen and it's 1063 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 4: so dumb that we didn't talk about it and go 1064 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 4: for it because it's The. Knicks we've been waiting for 1065 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 4: like decades for Any knicks, conversation and we found the 1066 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,720 Speaker 4: conversation Is Julius. Randall he's definitely going To that's. 1067 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,760 Speaker 2: Gonna wrap it up for The Action NETWORK nba. Podcast 1068 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 2: no back to the future this. Week no thanks for 1069 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 2: nothing other THAN i guess on AN nba. BETSTREAM i 1070 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 2: got caught with it with an. Over, finally we'll see 1071 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,799 Speaker 2: if that repeats this. Week ANOTHER NBA bet stream On 1072 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,360 Speaker 2: friday with me And raheem Alongside Jared quay And Preston. 1073 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 2: Johnson make sure check that. 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