WEBVTT - Episode 19: Not Backing Down with Sen. Ron Johnson 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.600 Up next The Truth with Lisa Both part of the 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:06.800 game which the White House recently admitted that the Biden 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:11.200 administration is identifying quote unquote problematic posts for Facebook to 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:15.440 censor because they contain misinformation that doesn't make you concerned, 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:18.400 then you're not paying attention. This is The Truth with 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:28.440 Lisa Booth. Yeah, welcome back to the Truth with Lisa Booth. 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:30.520 I'm Lisa Booth, and I've got a great show for 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:33.279 you guys this week because my guest is Senator Ron 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:37.280 Johnson from the great state of Wisconsin. He was first 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.080 elected in the Tea Party wave of and since then 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:42.080 has been one of the most outspoken members of the 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:46.280 Senate and as a result, one of the left favorite targets. Today, 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:49.920 I asked Senator Johnson about COVID vaccines, big tech censorship 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:53.159 January six, and some of the latest hot button issues 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.240 in Congress, as well as some questions about his political career. 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:59.440 And with that, I want to welcome Senator Ron Johnson 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.960 to the show. Centator, thanks so much for joining me 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:05.440 on The Truth with Lisa Booth. Well, I appreciate that 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:07.919 I'm I'm just telling the truth. I have to admit 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:11.880 I it does amaze me that anybody would consider me 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.680 to be a polarizing figure. You know, I'm not of 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.679 this world. I'm I'm a citizen legislator, you know, raised 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.880 a family, uh ran a business for thirty years, was 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:23.880 involved my community, serving on boards with the most liberal 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:27.920 college professors, the most conservative business people like myself. It 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.560 would never come up. We were just concerned about how 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:32.960 can we improve education for our children, for example. So 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:38.160 I'm not bombastic. I don't engage in personal attacks, but 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:41.000 but I do recognize the fact that the U. S. 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:43.000 Senate seat that I hold right now is something that 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:48.279 the Democrats covet and their communications are the mainstream media 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.040 would like me gone as well. So I mean, I 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.240 understand the source of the attacks. It's still it's it's 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:56.760 It doesn't bother me because I know who I am, 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:02.200 but it's it is. It's depressing in its reflection on 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.680 our society and their state of politics. What I find 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:10.200 interesting is, look, you're you're a very wealthy member of Congress. Congratulations, 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:12.400 I'm trying to get there and not in Congress, but 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:16.080 you know, wealthy, So you didn't need to run for Congress. 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:19.040 You didn't need to run for Senate. But you did, 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.720 you know, why did you run for Senate in You've 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:23.880 got all this money, You've got all these things you 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:27.520 can do. Why the Senate? It really was with the 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:32.120 passage of Obamacare on Christmas Eve, my our first child 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:34.880 or daughter, Carey, was born with a serious congenital heart defect. 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.400 So the first day of life, she had a procedure 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:42.799 called a blue septastomy to get her down stream where 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.160 she can open our surgery whether we re baffle the 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:49.320 upper chamber heart. So at that point in time, I 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.799 recognized a couple of things. Uh, there's a reason they 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:57.480 call it medical practice because it's exactly that. It's practice. 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:02.280 Um note to human being are the same. Uh. You 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:07.520 advanced medicine through literally trying different techniques, different theories of 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:11.840 the case. But I knew that every every time the 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:15.839 government intrudes in any marketplace, they screw it up. They've 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.960 already intruded way too much into our health care field. 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.560 And I just didn't want to see, you know what, 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:26.000 what technological advancements were occurring in medicine to be snuffed 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.840 out by government control over over our health care system. 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:31.200 And then secondly, at that point in time, we were 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:34.800 on fourteen trillion dollars in debt, you know, up significantly 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:38.320 over just the last few years combinated to two thousand 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:41.880 and ten, and we're mortgaga our kids future. I you know, 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.880 I feel really bad that I've been here now about 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:49.000 eleven years and we've doubled the debt. So the bombcare 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:52.200 is still in place, and we've doubled the debt. I 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:55.080 don't feel like my time here has been particularly successful. 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:00.560 How's your daughter doing. She's great, she's three seven years old, 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:04.640 she has she's given us two grandchildren. Um, she's actually 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.640 a nurse practitioner, herself involved in all kinds of things. 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:13.040 So hers is a ours is a incredibly uh happy 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:17.520 ending story here doesn't always end that happy. What's beautiful. 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.599 I'm glad to hear that about your daughter, you know, 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:21.320 and you talked about you know, you ran in the 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.400 midterm elections. There was this huge Tea party wave, this 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:28.360 very much you know, anti government sentiment. You know, we're 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.960 saying government in a way that maybe we have never 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:34.080 seen in our lifetimes or maybe not ever in the 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.120 history of this country in terms of the abuse of 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:40.800 power from government. Do you think we'll see something in 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:46.080 the mid term elections, akin to the term elections, I 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:49.120 hope and pray that we do. One of my messages 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.159 I travel around stay Wisconsin is I am pointing out 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:56.719 that a real blind spot from standpoint of conservatives is 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.839 the fact that, you know, we were so concerned the 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:03.359 New Deal than the great society, you know, as big 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:07.080 government just busted out of the constraints of the Constitution 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:11.600 and have gone way beyond the numerated powers. Conservatives pushed 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:13.599 back on that, and we so we really concentrate all 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:15.640 our efforts on what can we do to reign the 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:19.000 federal government, and we completely lost focus, and I would 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:22.960 say in many cases lost touch with the particularly local 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:27.919 government UM. And let's face it, it's local government school boards, 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:33.440 county boards, UM, city councils that you know still as 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.600 as well as the vision of our funding father's government. 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:37.760 Close to the government has a great deal to influence 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:39.599 our lives. And we're certainly seeing that with things like 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:45.440 critical race theory. I keep reminding Republicans conservatives in Wisconsin, listen, 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:47.960 if you don't want critical race theory taught to your 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:51.520 children here in Wisconsin, you can hand it, you know, 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.680 to go to school board meetings, demand that the school 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.200 board take critical race theory out of the curriculum. And 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.960 then even better yet, because an awful lot of radical 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:04.279 leftists around those school boards, replace them, run for office yourself. 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:08.320 And so uh, I mean, I'm hoping conservatives are waking 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:11.159 up to the fact that, you know, President Obama, we 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.600 used to ridicule him as being a community organizer, right well, 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:20.000 that community organizing, that relentlessness on the part of the left, 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.960 you know, Sallyinsky, the fact that the radical left tic 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:27.760 over our university systems during the Vietnam War protests. Uh, 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:31.800 they control colleges education, to control colleges of journalism, they 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:36.880 control our culture. I'm actually amazed that there devious plans 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:40.560 haven't come to fruition sooner than they have. But they're 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:42.600 coming together right now, and that's why this is such 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.680 a perilous moment for our nation. So yeah, I hope 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:51.160 two is a significant pushback, uh, now that more Americans 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.160 are kind of recognizing that Joe Biden is no moderate. 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:56.560 The Democrat Party, I don't think they have a moderate 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.360 left in it. Um that they are. They are radical. 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:02.240 And I'll leave on this note too, because I say 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:06.960 this a lot um do you even like much less 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:11.040 love of something you want to fundamentally transform. The analogy 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:12.880 I use. I wake up in the morning. You look 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.000 over my wife Jada, say Jane, I love you now, 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:19.120 I'm gonna change everything about you. That one go over 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:24.160 too well. OK, that but that is And again I 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:26.520 get accused of saying Democrats to all this country. That's 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.160 not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying they are 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:32.080 electing leaders, the leaders of their party, the leaders of 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:37.040 their movements. Don't like this country. It's obvious you don't 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.680 like something you want to fundamentally transformed. I mean, they 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:46.480 disdain so much that is America. Whereas conservatives, uh, we 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.600 we fervently love this country. We know what made it 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:53.000 great individual liberty, uh. And that freedom so that we 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.320 can dream and aspire and build and create this this 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.200 marvel we call America. We get that, we understand that 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.040 we don't want not perfect, but we know that in 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.840 the spanning human history, this really is this country we 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:09.000 call America something incredibly rare, incredibly precious, and something that 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.080 we want. We want to do everything in our power 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.960 to preserve it, to save it, to make sure that 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.520 it now we survives but thrives for future generations. I 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.040 mean that's so, you know, you asked me why we 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:24.000 ran two ten. That's why when I agree with you, 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:27.360 But I would also say we need Republicans in Congress 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:29.280 to step up. I mean, there aren't a lot of 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.720 voices screaming about what's happening to some of the the 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:36.440 individuals involved in January six, or raising the alarm the 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:39.320 fact that you know there's now recommendation for two year 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.240 olds to wear masks, you know, in schools. I mean, 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:45.200 just some of the ridiculousness we're saying, the distortion of 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.160 their truth. Yet there are a lot of Republicans in Congress, 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.560 not you. You've been standing up, but why haven't we 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.760 heard more from your colleagues, Like why won't they step 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:57.440 up to the plate. We need them, you know, to 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.400 a certain standout. Let me paint with a nice brush, 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:04.640 I can. It's about priorities. Um. You know, when you're 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.840 United States Center, you're on at least three, if not four, 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.800 main committees, and then you've got subcommittees. And if you're 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.400 gonna do a decent job, and you concentrate your time 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:20.079 on those issues that are within the jurisdics of those committees, 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.959 and so you can maybe lose sight some of the 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:29.000 larger national trans the larger national stories that you know 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.920 that the electorate is focusing on. I mean, they're not 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.959 focusing on committee work that they're focusing on critical race theory. 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.600 They're focusing on the culture wars. So you can get 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:43.880 kind of wrapped up in this dysfunctional institution and trying 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:48.240 to do a good job in your committee assignments. Um, 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:53.440 you know, I suppose a less generous evaluation that would 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.880 be the fact that and I think this is not 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.280 any breaking news here, but I always ask crowds, so 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:02.080 what do you think the a motivation of most members 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:05.960 of Congresses? You know it in Unison people said, well, 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:11.480 to get reelected. So when my colleagues see the road 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.959 kill that it probably looks like I am after the 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:19.640 media just rakes me over the coals relentlessly. I can 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:21.920 certainly understand why somebody would not want to touch some 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.480 of these issues or say some things I say, tell 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.480 us on the truths that I that I tell why 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.840 everyone want to touch out the ten foot pole. So 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:32.520 I gotta ask you, are you running again? Having made 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:35.679 that decision? What's going through your mind about it? All 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.840 kinds of things. Um, I want to make sure that 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:44.000 this U S sentence seat is retained in Republican hands. Um. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:45.720 I mean you see what the media is doing to me. 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:50.360 I may not be the best candidate. Um. So I mean, 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:52.400 i'm I'm I wouldn't run if I don't think I 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.560 could win, if I don't think I was the best 0:10:54.600 --> 0:11:00.800 person to be able to win. Um. Uh. This probably 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:04.000 is an obscure reference to you. But Bud Grant was 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.560 the coach of the Minnesota Vikings and retired I think 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:08.160 the age of fifty five. You know, the kind of 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:12.079 the height of his success, even though he'd lost four 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:15.760 Super Bowls. Um. But he but he held because he 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.880 wanted to live a life. Um. This this is this 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:23.080 is an incredibly frustrating place here. Um. Having come from 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.520 the private sector, you know, run and run a business 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.760 and successful business, being able to accomplish things when you 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.200 just see the dysfunction as Washington see, I mean, it's 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.600 it can be, it can be, it can be pretty frustrating. 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:38.000 But then at the same time, as I was saying earlier, 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:41.640 you understand how rare and precious this country is and 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.480 you realize that there are certain truths that had to 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:49.480 have to be spoken. Uh, things they had to be 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:53.360 said that if nobody else will say them. Um, maybe 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.040 that's the role somebody asked to play. So there's there's 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.000 you know, we said, there's so many things running through 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:01.360 my mind quite honestly, um. And the good news, I 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.439 have plenty of time to decide. If you remember two 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.400 thousand ten, Uh, I don't expect you even know this, 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.719 but I did not even think about running for the 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.320 United States Senate until after they passed Obamacare on on 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:16.840 Christmas even two thousand nine. Uh. Finally made my decision 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:18.880 to run after having talked to a few people over 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:23.000 the months, at the very end of April, announced mid May, 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.480 and ran about it, you know, five six month campaign 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:27.760 that seemed to work out. Okay. So you know, I 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:31.800 think these campaigns are way too long. They spend way 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.599 too much money. They put way too much money in 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:38.880 the pockets of consultants. And it's primarily consultants that are 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.440 pushing people like me to make decision right away so 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:43.360 you can get out there and start raising all kinds 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:46.560 of you know, oodles and rules of money for their benefit, 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.719 not not for the benefit of the citizens. I mean 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:53.120 people are not in the general public, the electorate is 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:57.040 not in campaign mode. I understand there's a ton of consideration, 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.120 but I will say that we do need people like 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.480 you in conquer sir. So I'll just leave it at 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.440 that before moving on. But you you talked a lot 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.840 about some of the mistruths that are out there, the 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:09.480 source of the truth. Uh. We also talked about the 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.760 heavy hand of government. The White House recently said that 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.839 the administration is identifying problematic posts for Facebook, working in 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:21.559 conjunction with Facebook to essentially identify who's pushing out misinformation 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.800 in their eyes and who needs to be censored. Where 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:30.400 does this lead? Well, it's an Orwellian present. I mean this, 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:34.920 you would they are big brother than now. Uh. Combination 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.360 of the marriage of big tech with big government and 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:41.320 we've we've got big brother. It should frighten every American. 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:45.360 You know what always what does always amaze me? And 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.199 this even conservatives fall in the trap. So I was 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.439 saying earlier, so many people focused on the federal government. 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:56.000 Have you noticed the federal government is awful solving problems. 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:02.240 They're they're great at mortgaging your children and grandchildren's future. 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:05.920 But they're terrible solving problems. Now, if they would focus 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.400 on national defense, crying our board and the federal government 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.400 could could be pre effective at what it does, but 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:17.439 it's not very effective at doing almost anything. And if 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:22.240 you just kind of stack up the list of things 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.720 that have been said about COVID and able to shutdowns 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.200 and just that, you know, Fauci's talking a out of 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.440 both sides of their mouths and covering up their gain 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:35.800 function research. Why would anybody trust people like that? I mean, 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.240 it's just you know, I just I don't quite get it. 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:42.320 And so you know, from my standpoint, we are a 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:47.280 very perilous time in terms of censorship, the combination of 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:54.320 media and social media, uh, completely cooperating with one party 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:57.920 and opposed to the other. Uh. I mean that's that's 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:02.720 yep on one party totalitarian state. Quick commercial break and 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:12.080 back with Senator Ron Johnson identifying quote unquote misinformation, I mean, 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:13.760 what does that even mean? You know, you made the 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.600 point of the fact that we've seen flip flops from 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:21.280 health officials like Dr Fauci, We've seen uh, we've seen censorship, 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:23.640 but the lab leak theory that is now being presumed 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:27.480 as credible just recently with the CDC director say that 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:29.960 vaccinated people do not carry the virus or get sick. 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.200 Yet we have these House Democrats or these Democrats from 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.720 Texas who claimed to be vaccinated, who have all now 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:39.440 tested positive experiencing you know, mild symptoms or some level 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.760 of symptoms allegedly. So, I mean, the fact is, what 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:47.040 is quote unquote misinformation when we've seen this evolving story 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.840 about COVID, and that lies the problem because it seems 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:53.800 like it's more about just protecting the Biden administration from 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.880 anything that could be damaging or shutting down any descent 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:58.560 that they don't like that could be damaging to the 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.040 Biden administration. That's that's what it seems like it's about. 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.600 Well started out politicizing COVID to harm Trump so that 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.920 they could elect whoever they wanted to elect and end 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:14.120 up being Biden. Um. The you know, I'm I'm sixty 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:17.840 six years old. As far back as i can remember, 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.440 when you're talking about getting medical diagnosis, you've always been 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:25.360 told we'll get a second opinion again because it's medical practice. 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:29.720 I mean, you know, doctors aren't gods. Uh, they're they're fallible, 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:34.920 So you go and you seek different medical opinions during 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:40.320 a pandemic in two thousand twenty one, versus we had 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:45.760 something here there could have been a tool for phenomenal good. 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.680 The Internet an open source where these doctors that are 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.640 grappling with a new disease and just not understanding it, 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:56.040 putting people on ventilators and it's not helping, and and 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.240 so you know, I saw very early on doctors who 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:03.600 would you post five tene minute posts in terms of 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.320 what they're seeing and what they're trying, you know, things 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:09.639 like cortico steroids. I put Dr Pierre Corey as a 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.480 witness in in my Homeland Security Committee in May of 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.840 two thousand twenty because his group was starting to look 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:20.000 at cortical steroids the moment I heard and learned how 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:24.440 to produce pronounce hydroxy chloric wine. Though, Man, if there's 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:29.080 an existing drug that is in sufficient supply that we 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.520 could repurpose that could be effective, whether anti inflammatory or 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.520 anti viral, or you know, for whatever. If there are 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.320 drugs like that exist, man, that could be the silver 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:42.199 bullet you could. You could end this pandemic before it 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.880 even took off. You could stop it in his tracks, 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:52.720 and then you just saw the censorship, the pushback on 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.240 the part of people like Fauci's, even though hydrosta cork 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.600 wine was in his bag of tricks for coronaviruses. I 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:00.560 think back as far back as two US in five, 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:04.280 I mean, what what what was happening again? I could 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.400 literally sit here for hours and tell you stories of 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:11.880 my frustration of trying to push early treatment. Again. I'm 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.520 agnostic in terms of what drug was this hydrafts corkin 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.000 or ever, mecton, recycle, sporing or I mean, you know, 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.400 decks and episode. I mean, there's all kinds of things 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.080 that's a multi drug processes what we're determining right now. 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.679 But the fact that these health care agencies and the 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:30.560 thoughts of the world completely ignored that. They did worse 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:33.360 than ignore it. There were there were factions that were 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:37.720 sabotaging research trials, not not allowing research to have independent 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:41.760 review boards so they could get their results published. There 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:45.199 was some really bad stuff that was happening in or 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:48.160 that happened and that is still happening today. I can't 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.959 explain it all, um, But anyway, you had this Internet 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.639 that could have been an exchange just a flourishing and 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:59.200 exchange of different ideas, different theories of the case, different treatments, 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.480 free flow of information that we could have honed in on, 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.240 you know, what was working and what wasn't working, but 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:08.760 big government didn't allow it to happen, Big tech didn't 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:10.200 allow it to happen. That, you know, all of a 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:14.040 sudden you had to total line that there was only 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:18.000 one opinion that could there was legitimate that that could 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:21.560 be communicated. Anything else was a labeled misinformation. At least 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:25.679 I I have to sadly report that I personally believe tens, 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.159 if not hundreds of thousands of people lost their lives 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:32.000 that didn't have to lose their lives had the agencies 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:36.480 had had media and social media not denigrated these alternate 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:40.280 approaches but allowed the free flow of of of information 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:45.000 and allowed doctors and patients access to FT approved drugs. 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:48.920 The doctors have a full right of off label prescription 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:53.440 rights that they really weren't able to exercise because the CDC, 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:57.080 the FDA said nope, didn't encourage it at all, and 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:00.639 so hospital associations doctors they just wouldn't touch things like 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:05.320 hydrox chlorice ira, mectin. There are two obvious reasons. One is, 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:09.200 iver mectin hydrox chloric probably costs some summer on twenty 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:13.120 dollars per treatment. Remdesseaviere, on the other hand, is over 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.040 three thousand dollars. And if you look at the veyor's 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:20.639 report thirty one years of ivermectin and hydroxy chloricine, there 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:24.840 there's maybe a couple of hundred of theirs reported deaths. Again, 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:28.520 it doesn't prove causation, but over thirty one years, a 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:31.840 couple of hundred with remdesse heere in you know, some 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:34.680 around approximately twelve months, a little bit more than twelve months, 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:39.600 there's all over a thousand veyors reported deaths, you know, 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:44.840 you know, associated after somebody's been adminstered uh remdesseviere. So, 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:47.280 I mean, I don't get that, but so it could 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:51.159 be the profit motive. But also, uh, it may be 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.359 impossible or at least difficult to get an immersed use 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:59.520 authorization of vaccine if they are effective treatments. Is that 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.399 what was all about? I mean, obviously the facts of 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:08.480 the world were completely focused on nothing other than a vaccine. Well, 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:11.160 and you've recently you were criticized for holding a round 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:15.560 table with folks who had adverse reactions to vaccines. What 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:18.160 were some of the stories that you heard that you 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.240 highlighted during that round table, and then what was the 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:25.080 response to you holding that event. Well, I've been talking 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:29.040 about the safety signals that I think there's has been 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:32.040 screaming at us four months now, and of course I 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:35.480 get attacked and vilified for for using sees his own 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:38.439 early warning system on safety and just talking to the numbers. 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:43.399 Always you with the caveat that you know, these numbers 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.840 don't prove causation, but they certainly should be looked at. So, 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:50.520 I mean, you've got things like death, You've got low playlists, 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:54.800 you've got deep vein thrombosis, the clotting. Uh. But I 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:58.000 was contacted by an ex Green Bay Packer Hall of 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:02.439 Famer Ken Rutgers, and his wife suffered neurological symptoms, you know, 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:04.720 a complete complete numbness in her face, you know, like 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:07.680 you just got an ovcaine shot and just never never 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:10.480 comes out of it. Uh. They couldn't get help. I mean, 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.120 there were no doctors would would even consider the fact 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:15.119 that that might have been caused by the vaccine, although 0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:18.520 she was perfectly healthy. Gets a vaccine and then all 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:21.240 of a sudden, she's experiencing these symptoms. Well, they started 0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:23.879 searching for help on the internet, got connected to a 0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:27.720 couple of different Facebook groups totally about two thousand people 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:32.000 like them, and some of these women. And there it 0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:36.520 was interesting because very very high percentage were women. UM 0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:41.080 but paralysis completely, loss of legs, loss of bladder control, 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:46.560 um numbness, total numbers from the neck on down. Uh. Now, 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:50.760 some of them have recovered. But another common symptom neurological 0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:55.159 harm that they believe it's caused by the vaccine. Severe 0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:58.520 inner vibrations I means so severe that to the women 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:00.720 in their group have already committed suici. I. They simply 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.800 can't tolerate that. They don't want to live with that 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:07.720 condition anymore. Now they look perfectly normal. So yeah, we had. 0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:10.920 You know, little Maddie twelve years old when she participate 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.840 in the Fightser trial of twelve to fifteen year olds, 0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:18.000 so obviously perfectly healthy. Uh literally thin days she was 0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:20.359 suffering symptoms. She can't eat now, she has to have 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:24.840 a g I tube. She she is in a wheelchair. Um, 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:29.879 you know, these are serious, serious issues here, but she 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:33.000 literally her doctors were her parents were once seeing you're 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:35.399 away from committing her to a mental ward before they 0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:37.960