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We haven't decided 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: on one yet, but how about this, Okay, who would 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: you rather have to build your team around? Sam Darnold 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: or Daniel Jones? The New York quarterback question? Oh god, 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: the guys in the back were arguing about this vehemently 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: for forty five minutes. I know we're in the area, 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: but there was a Darnold camp and a Jones camp, 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: believe it or not. Now I'm wondering about this with 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: the Jets. The Jets are bad. They have, you know, 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: tension between the coaches. You're trying to keep Sam Darnold healthy. 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco's your backup quarterback here. You don't have skill 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: position players. If Sam Darnold wants to keep the Jets 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: from drafting Trevor Lawrence, all he has to do is win, 23 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: because if they win, they're not going to be in 24 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: the position to draft Trevor Lawrence. Now they might trade 25 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: up to get Trevor Lawrence, but if you want to 26 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: keep your job. But then I started to wonder does 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: Trevor Does Sam Darnold want to keep his job with 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: the Jets, and I would have some doubts. Can you 29 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: get a fresh start? I still believe the ideal place 30 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: for Sam Darnold is Pittsburgh because then you'd have a 31 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: true air apparent to Ben Roethlisberg. Now Ben gets sensitive 32 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: when you draft quarterbacks. He's playing well this year. The Steelers, 33 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: I think are a legitimate Super Bowl contender. But if 34 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: you brought in Sam Darnold, and Sam Darnold was going 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: to be waiting for a year or two and you 36 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: could put him in, bring him in because the Steelers 37 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: aren't going to be in a position to draft a 38 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: quarterback at least up high. Sam Darnold's only twenty three 39 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: years of age. And if if I'm Pittsburgh and I 40 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: might get the opportunity to have somebody with that skill level, 41 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: and we actually have some good players on this team, 42 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: and I could get him on the cheap. I'm not 43 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: going to be paying him that big contract, and maybe 44 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: we get him for a second round pick. Yeah point, 45 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: I totally agree with that. What about the Chicago Bears 46 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: as a trade partner for the Sam Darnald. You're not 47 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: using Trabisky. You passed on his fifth year option, so 48 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: he's cut in about two months. Falls is a short 49 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: term option. Good but short term option sam Darnald's twenty 50 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: three and would cost you. Let's say the Bears gave 51 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: up their first round draft pick this year, which unexpectedly 52 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: will be in the twenty two. I'd rather have Sam 53 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: dartald twenty second pick in the draft. Yeah, I would too. 54 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: I think if you could get him and get him 55 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: on the cheap and then let him play into that 56 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: next big contract, then I would do that. But if 57 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: if Sam wants to stay with the Jets, he just 58 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: has to play better and if they win, then they 59 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: take themselves out of the race for Trevor Lawrence. Yeah. McLevin, 60 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: I don't. This is actually a question like what have 61 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: you seen as Sam Darnold in the NFL. That makes 62 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: you think he's a starting quarterback. Well, you're right about that. 63 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: We did see that run earlier in the season, that 64 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: fifty yard touchdown run that was as good as any 65 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: quarterback aside from Lamar Jackson is going to make this year. 66 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: I think he has the throws. I go back to 67 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: his last year at USC where he threw he had 68 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: turnover issues and I think there were you know, issues 69 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: with his release or whatever, you know, how he was 70 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: seeing the field, whatever it was. But I do think 71 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: that there is He's an athlete, and he's a good athlete, 72 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: and there's talent there. I just don't know if we're 73 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: going to see it with the Jets because it's just 74 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: not a good team. And if he went to a 75 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: team that has some talent, can he be, you know, 76 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: an above average quarterback? And I believe he can be. 77 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: But you get mired in mediocrity and you know, you 78 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: get sacked like Joe Burrow is going to get sacked 79 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: fifty times this year, if not more, and after a while, 80 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: just the accumulation of that that can that can leave 81 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: mental scars when you start to play that position. And 82 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: we've seen quarterbacks who go to bad teams. And the 83 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: reason why the bad teams get these great quarterbacks is 84 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: because they're bad, but they don't get better anytime soon. 85 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: And Joe Burrow is going to be wearing it this year. 86 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: He'll get sacked at least fifty times. Yeah, do we 87 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: sometimes like over eight guys or expect more of them 88 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: because they went high and then realize, like like Mariot 89 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: and Winston both are not starting anymore. We kind of 90 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: thought forever that they would be guys. Yeah, it's based 91 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: off what you do in college, and I think we 92 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: all Mariota. Mariota never put the pressure on the defense 93 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: the way he did when he was at Oregon, in 94 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: my opinion, And maybe it was play calling. Maybe you're 95 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: a little more tentative, maybe you try to be more 96 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: of a passing quarterback instead of a running quarterback. But 97 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: he was a really talented quarterback in college. And Jameis Winston, 98 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: it felt like he had one of the best arms 99 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: we had seen in a long time. I just think 100 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: that he was in his mental acuity, wasn't on board 101 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: every game because he was always trying to do too 102 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: much instead of playing a little more conservatively and had 103 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: he done that and not throwing thirty picks, if he 104 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: had thrown ten interceptions and thirty touchdowns, he'd probably still 105 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: be Tampa's quarterback. But he tried to do too much, 106 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: and he had talent there in a good defense and 107 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: never understood it. And I don't know how. I don't 108 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: know him. I think we've interviewed him once or twice, 109 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: but just his approach bothered me, concerned me. But I 110 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: do think he can be a star quarterback. Let's put 111 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: it this way. If he can't go from New Orleans 112 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: with Drew Brees and Sean Payton, then he's never going 113 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: to be a starting quarterback again. If you can't learn 114 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: from those two, then you're not going to learn it 115 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: from anybody else. Yeah, Polly, going back to Sam Darda 116 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: last year at age twenty two, remember he had the 117 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: motto thirteen starts, twenty touchdowns, six passer, three thousand yards. 118 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: He was not horrible, and he won seven games. He 119 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: was seven and six with a terrible Jets team last year. 120 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: He could be a value. The other big news and 121 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: it's not news Antonio Brown. Looks like the Seahawks are 122 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: going to bring him in and sign him now, it's 123 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: not for sure yet, hasn't been reported. Feels like that 124 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: it's basically the Seattle Seahawks decision. Do they want to 125 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: bring him in? Pete Carroll said he wanted to Russell Wilson. 126 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: I don't understand this from Seattle's Well, let me give 127 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: you my thoughts on Antonio Brown going to Seattle. First 128 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: of all, they need help on defense. Their offense is 129 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: really good, unless they are saying, because our defense isn't 130 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: very good, we have to have a better offense. That's 131 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: the only thing I can think in this situation, because 132 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is not somebody I want on my two 133 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: not this stage of his career. If I have a 134 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: good clubhouse, you know, I want to keep it that way. 135 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about touches. You got DK Metcalf, 136 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: you got Tyler Lockett, russ is playing at a high level. 137 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: Would I would want to bring in some defense if 138 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: I could not Antonio Brown. But if I can't find 139 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: any defensive players, I guess you're bringing him in because 140 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: you want to see can we make this offense as 141 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: dynamic as possible. Maybe that's the logic here, But I 142 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: don't want Antonio Brown on my two and you got 143 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: Josh Gordon. He's still with Seattle, really, I think, so, 144 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what his status is. I don't is 145 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: he definitely selling the team. I know he's applied for reinstatement, 146 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: but he's kind of lingering there with Seattle, I believe. 147 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: I also brought this up yesterday and I failed to 148 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: deliver on it. Not because I was trying to build 149 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: this up, it was just I forgot about it. I 150 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: had teased that if the Falcons do decide to get 151 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: rid of Matt Ryan, and two weeks prior, I brought 152 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: this up because I'd gotten a tip that, hey, they 153 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: may tank, they may decide let's get rid of Matt 154 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: Ryan and Julio Jones and maybe we could get Trevor 155 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: Lawrence or Justin Fields and then we start over. So 156 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: I said to the Dannets, you guys can guess where 157 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: I think Matt Ryan the best place for Matt Ryan 158 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: to play, And to me, it's not even a question. 159 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: And then Julio Jones as well, Yes, point, it's funny Dan, 160 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: because it's been years since we played the old game. 161 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: Can you guess where Dan thinks Matt Ryan should be 162 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: traded game. Yeah, but we still have the music ready. Okay, 163 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: and actually we made some custom production for whose Dan? 164 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: Who's Dan? Think it's a perfect place for Matt Ryan 165 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: Land tell me Tommy, who's gonna trade for Matt Ryan? Who? Yes? 166 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: Mc love, I have a guess, okay, but I'm not 167 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: going to you first. Fritzie won the coin toss. He 168 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: goes first. I had them giving up on Kirk d 169 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: Cousins and bringing Matt Ryan to Minnesota. Matt Ryan in Minnesota. 170 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: That was my guess. I can't guess it now. You 171 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: gotta wait till I call on you. Poly like this, 172 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: there's guest here, Okay, McLevin, I'm gonna have you go last. 173 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: I go last because I think I know okay, and 174 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: I have a reason why I see An O'Connor, j 175 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: thir Eesota Minnesota and Paly Ester is on the Minnesota train. Mcleven. 176 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: I think you and I are seeing on on. Oh. 177 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: I know why you're going this way because I read 178 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: the tea leaves of your quarterback. I don't even know 179 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: where the tea leaves are. I think you do not 180 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: like the starting not that you don't like him, you 181 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: like it personally, But you don't think this starting quarterback. 182 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: I don't know that starting quarterback, right, But I think 183 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: you think he's the one thing holding this team back 184 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: from actually winning a super Bowl. Yes, yes, because you 185 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: always talk about Jimmy the Niners back. Yes, Matt Ryan 186 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: to the Niners, Kyle Shanahan, here we go, let's go 187 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: back in. Let's win a super Bowl this time. I'll 188 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: run the football now and not throw some passes in 189 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: the final couple of minutes. Matt Ryan forty nine ers, 190 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: I think would be ideal. Ideal. You got a great quarterback, 191 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: hall of fame quarterback, borderline hall of fame quarterback coming 192 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: in and they're not quite sure what they have. Maybe 193 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: they know what they have with Jimmy Garoppolo. Maybe, but 194 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: they did take a run at Tom Brady in the offseason. 195 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: And if you could get Matt Ryan, I don't know 196 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: how the numbers work. I'm just talking about if I 197 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: could find a perfect spot for Matt Ryan for that team, 198 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: and then I don't know what the Falcons would get 199 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: in return, and Julio Jones. If I'm the Green Bay Packers, 200 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: whatever it takes, I want Julio Jones here. Whatever it takes. 201 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: We got an opportunity here. We went thirteen and three 202 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: last year. We may go thirteen and three this year, 203 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: maybe twelve and four. I want to get Julio Jones 204 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: in here, whatever it takes. Yes, Ton, it's all forgiven 205 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: on the Jordan Love pick if they can work that 206 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: out in Jones, Yes, we didn't draft you a wide receiver, 207 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: but we're gonna trade for a Hall of Fame wide receiver. 208 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: You okay with that? Aaron, I'm okay. R E l 209 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: a X or as McLevin would say, r E a 210 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: l X. Yes, they're more likely to trade for Matt 211 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: Ryan than Julio Jones. They do not want to give 212 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers wide receivers. They're committed to this non wide 213 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: receiver strategy. I don't know why, but they had millions 214 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: of opportunities to bolster their receiver and they'd never do it. 215 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if I'm Green Bay, whatever it takes 216 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: to get Julio Jones, and if I'm San Francisco, you 217 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: may not. It may not happen this year at the 218 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: trade deadline, but the off season, boy, that's where I'd 219 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: keep an eye on this. Depending how far San Francisco goes. 220 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: Now Garoppolo did, he could have won a super Bowl. 221 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: I would still have questions about him if they won 222 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. But if he completes a couple of passes, 223 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: they win the super Bowl. Matt Ryan, if they don't run, 224 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: he wins the super Bowl. Doesn't it feel like that's 225 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: so long ago that the Falcons were that close. It's 226 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: like Jacksonville. It wasn't that long ago when Jacksonville's playing 227 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: the Patriots. They were going to the super Bowl. There 228 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: were a couple of plays away. It happens that quickly. 229 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: Man crazy. But that's the Matt Ryan game. I hope 230 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: it was worth it. I built it up accidentally. That's 231 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: a shocker. I didn't see that one because Garoppolo's twenty 232 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: nine and playing well. But I get Matt Ryan. Matt 233 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 1: Ryan is a significant upgrade. What if the oh, what 234 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: does the Falcons that, let's do it, let's wop it. 235 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: You're gonna give them, Jimmy g No, the Falcons. They 236 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: want to get Trevor Lawrence. You want to get that 237 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: rookie contract in there? Yes, McLeman. If you're talking trades, 238 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: there's always one go to who are the Patriots going 239 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: to get a wide receiver this year? It's the November 240 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: third dead idol that they did some new last year 241 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: who they got to bring in someone? Right? It feels 242 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: like that. It feels like whenever there's a wide receiver 243 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: available scene with the Patriots there, I don't know if 244 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: Julio Jones is going to be available. I don't think 245 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: that's who they need. They need someone fast. Actually, I 246 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: think they'd take Julio Jazz just a guess. I'm guessing 247 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: with that wide receiving crew. I don't think you go 248 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: you know what, you know what we're missing speed. I 249 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: think they're missing talent and Julio Jones. He's a Hall 250 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: of Fame wide receiver. That's why I don't understand why 251 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: these teams didn't. No, I know you had to pay 252 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, but you didn't have to give up anything 253 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: to get DeAndre Hopkins. That's why I didn't know about 254 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: some of these other teams and why they didn't go 255 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: all in, like Green Bay or Seattle. And that's what 256 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: I thought. Instead of Jamal Adams in Seattle, if you're 257 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: going to add more offense, I'd add DeAndre Hopkins now 258 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: maybe Antonio Brown can come in and be great. But 259 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: you know that would have been the direction I would 260 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: go in. All right, Baseball, last night the Rays even 261 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: the series, and they're off today because of the Thursday 262 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: night game the Giants and the Eagles. A couple of 263 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: phone calls here and then coming up, I railed on 264 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: Baseball's analytics with a bullpen game in Game two with 265 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: let's have seven pitchers pitch for the Dodgers here because 266 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: we don't have a quality starter who can start and 267 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: go five innings. But now we have new analytics going 268 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: for two in the NFL. Mike Florio goes off on 269 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: a rant earlier this morning. I'll play that for you. 270 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: Coming up, Gary and Iowa join us high Gary, what's 271 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: on your mind? Good morning, Dan Danetts. First off, I 272 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: think I've got a new addiction. I listen to you 273 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: guys in the morning when I'm driving. I'm in and 274 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: out of my track. I get off for tonight, I 275 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: go home. I found you on Peacock. First time I've 276 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: been able to watch the show. So there's my addiction 277 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: checking off. Now that I can see you on TV, 278 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: I know it sucked at back row means my previous call. 279 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: I let you know, I love Fritzie and my words, 280 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: I said, suck at back row. I take it all 281 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: back unless we have more mona headlines like we had yesterday. 282 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: Thank you, well, thank you, thank you Gary. Safe travels 283 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: on the row. So I'm not sure if he's all 284 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: in on the back row, sock at back row. I 285 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: take it back nice at first, And then he got 286 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: a shot in at the end there and kind of 287 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: a passive aggressive backhanded compliment there sort of. Yeah, the 288 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: club soccer back row has always been confusing. Some people 289 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: think it's an omage to the back row. A lot 290 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: of people don't. It's kind of gone all over the 291 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: place and homage to them. Yeah, people are they like, yeah, 292 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: suck it back row, go back row. It happens on 293 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: the road. People will just yelled at my glove it 294 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: suck it back row. Yeah, but I don't. Yeah, it's 295 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: it's it has a life of a tone. I never 296 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: I never saw it or heard it that way. I 297 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: think that guy thinks he was saying something nice about 298 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: the back row. Well he said he takes it all 299 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: back about saying suck it back row, so taking it back. 300 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: But then he said I would say it, you know, 301 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: Fritzie's mock headlines are as bad as they were yesterday, 302 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: then I would say suck it back row again, Yes, 303 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: because it feels a lot different when someone calls in 304 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: and says suck it front row, or like suck it 305 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: right side or something that's that's very deliberately telling you, 306 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: like screw you guys. Yes, but it's like, hey, suck 307 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: a back row, all right, Yeah, that's fun, right, No, 308 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: suck it front row, you guys, suck it Okay. You 309 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: think the tone is a little different, Oh yeah, yeah, 310 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: it does. It almost feels like they they're with you 311 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: in the back row, that they understand your shortcomings and 312 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: you know that your deficiencies and they're ranked there whether 313 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: you sucker background kind of banner or slogan, hang in there, guys. 314 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: Like Katy Perry, she said, very deliberately, it's like a 315 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: front row. Did she say suck at front row? K Oh, yeah, 316 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: most unbelievable tweets we've ever got ninety seven million people. 317 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: We were in New York that day and it was 318 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: in the afternoon, and then I got like, all these 319 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: people said, Katy Perry gave you guys a shout out. 320 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm going, who the hell is Katy Perry other than 321 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: the singer who's got one hundred million followers, There another 322 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: Katy Perry. And next thing I know, Katy Perry tweets 323 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: out suck at front Row at thirteen year old girl 324 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: slashing my tires in my house. I thought I was 325 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: a bad guy because Katy Perry said so. It's kind 326 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: one hundred and eight million followers you usually saw when 327 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: she tweeted sucking front Row, it was like it was 328 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: code because ninety nine percent of her audience has no 329 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: idea who we are, and they're like, who is this 330 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: front Row? You're talking? What does this mean? And what 331 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: can we do to help you out? Katie? What did? 332 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: What did? What did front Row do to you? Who's 333 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: front Row? We're gonna find him. That a boy band 334 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: from Canada, We're gonna track them down. The other big 335 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: news was Ryan Fitzpatrick. Not that he got demoted, it 336 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: was his reaction to being demoted. Blindsided. Yes, he was. 337 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: His heart was broken. Did that watch the draft? Yeah? Mclemen. 338 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: He went to Harvard. He should be smarter than this. 339 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: He should have seen this coming. Okay, I got a 340 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: quote now I'm gonna take a break because I have 341 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: a quote that backs that up mclovin with Ryan Fitzpatrick. 342 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: And also, should we be going for two points? Should 343 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: NFL teams be doing that? Is that the new analytics? 344 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: Mike Florio rants and raves and says no and get 345 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 1: off my lawn. 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Driving in today listening Mike Florio, Chris 356 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: Simms Pro Football Talk Live. Next thing. I know they're 357 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: on this two point conversion rant, and I know that 358 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: we've had more two point conversion attempts in the first 359 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: six weeks than we've had in any other year in 360 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: NFL history. I think the two point conversion came in 361 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: back in nineteen ninety four, if that sounds right, McLevin, 362 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: and I think that they have been successful on fifty 363 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: percent of their two point conversion attempts so far. And 364 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, you move the extra point back a little bit, 365 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: so they made a little bit more challenging here, and 366 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: teams are going for We saw this with Romeo Cornell 367 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: that he wanted to go up by nine on the Titans. 368 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: Instead of going up by eight, he went for two 369 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 1: and thought, if we'd go up by nine, we're going 370 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: to win this game, which they would have, but they missed. 371 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: Then we know they win it over time, and the 372 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: Titans ended up winning that game. Here's Mike Florio from 373 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk Live on a rant about the two 374 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: point conversion and analytics in the NFL. As these organizations 375 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: higher analytics departments, smart, brilliant mathematical minds who have great 376 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: influence over the football operation. The coach now has cover, 377 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: and it's not just the coach has cover. I think 378 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: some coaches feel like I better do what the analytics 379 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: person is saying because I'm not the one eating lunch 380 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: with the owner, right, I'm not the one going to 381 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: Paisanos and getting the cal zones and sitting in the 382 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: owner's office all day long, and you know, I'm out 383 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: on the practice field and the owners smitten with this 384 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: twenty five year old kid from Harvard Business School, and uh, 385 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: you know, and they're running these numbers and saying this 386 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: is what we need to do, and if I don't 387 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: listen to them, they're going to start saying to the owner, 388 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: the coach isn't listening. So I think it's it's almost 389 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: become self preservation. I think for some of these coaches 390 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: who feel intimidated by the analytics department that their owner 391 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: has set up. If the analytics show, you know, I 392 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: have a hard time when you know coaches when they 393 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: go for two points and you're gonna so they start 394 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: to do the math and you're going, what are you 395 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: thinking there? I would love to have a coach just 396 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: go for two points all the time, just from the outset. 397 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: Every time we score touchdown, we're going for it. Yeah. 398 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen and nineteen ninety four, point one percent 399 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: of extra points were made that meant the expected points 400 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: for that play is point nine four one point nine 401 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: for one. In the same span those two seasons, the 402 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: two point conversion rate was forty nine point four, which 403 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: means the points on that play over the course of 404 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: a season. There's two seasons was point nine eight. So 405 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: literally you're doing better points wise by doing two point 406 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: conversion every time. But it's the two point conversion similar 407 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: to the three point shot in the NBA that the 408 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: math is on your side if you're going to do 409 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: it the entire season. Like I'm wondering when one year, 410 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: if a team just decides they're not going to punt anymore, 411 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: they're just gonna go for it all the time. Like, 412 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: I don't know where we're headed with football analytics. We 413 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: know where we are with basketball analytics and baseball analytics. 414 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: We've seen last night, you know, a bullpen session really 415 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: for the Dodgers in Game two of the World Series. Yeah, McLevin. 416 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: The real impact of analyts two points is kind of 417 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: a minor thing. But really, like all the analyts, guys 418 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: say pass pass, pass, like just passing is a more 419 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: effective play. Don't run the ball, which is kind of 420 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: like the three point shot. But you do have a 421 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: Titans team that runs the football. And this is what 422 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm wondering with the NBA, will you have a team 423 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: that will have a counter attack, and now you have 424 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: to deal with their big men. I know it's about 425 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: three point shooting, but are you going to have a 426 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: team that will be built differently. It's just like I said, 427 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: in baseball, could you see where teams like the Kansas 428 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: City Royals and the Saint Louis Cardinals in the mid 429 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: eighties were built on speed and defense. They played in 430 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: a pitcher's park, and they were able to use their legs. 431 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: They tracked down everything in the outfield, they took extra basses, 432 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: they stole basses, they got on base, Like to me, 433 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: that was so disruptive. The most disruptive player I've ever 434 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: seen is Ricky Henderson. When he got on base, it 435 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: felt like the pitcher just worried about Ricky from the 436 00:23:53,440 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: first at bat, first inning, and you just create chaos. 437 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: You make them think about you. That doesn't happen anymore. 438 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: It's really just you get on the mountain, you throw 439 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: as hard as you can for as long as you can, 440 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: and then you swing as hard as you can until 441 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,959 Speaker 1: you either hit a home run or strike out. But 442 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: I wonder if you'll have that in baseball where somebody 443 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: will be counterintuitive to what everybody else is doing because 444 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: you still have to go to their ballpark eighty one games. 445 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: And I if I could build a pitcher's ballpark, or 446 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: I had a big ballpark, then I would have my 447 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: team that's build on speed in defense and take my 448 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: chances that you know, we were going to be decent 449 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: on the road, but we were going to be unbeatable 450 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: at home. Build it with great, you know, great pitchers, 451 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: and have speed in defense. Get on base. Yeah, McLean. 452 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: I've the argument that kids like home runs. You know, 453 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: I don't think the owners think that sells. Speed in defense. 454 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: You know what's not selling right now today's baseball, Well, 455 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: speed in defense is not going to help it. There's 456 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: a movement, there's there's movement. If you guys in league 457 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: twelve year olds are gonna care, Oh maybe not, but 458 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: they don't care. Now with home runs baseball ratings, these 459 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: are the lowest World Series ratings that will will ever 460 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: have said. Don't they don't care. They're not going, Hey, 461 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tune in and uh see Randy and Rosarina 462 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: hit a home run. Ain't happening. Hey, I'm gonna watch 463 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: Dustin May throw a hundred. So what it visually it's 464 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: not stimulating. Really, that's what it comes down to. There's 465 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: not much action, but that's the analytics of how to 466 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: win games. Even when you win, you're not interesting and 467 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: that's bad for your your product. Yeah, but didn't, so 468 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: said McGuire, saved the game by hitting home runs. These 469 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: ratings were falling and then the home runs came and 470 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: saved it. It wasn't that a thing? Well, so sa McGuire. 471 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: All right, sorry, yeah, yeah, I feel like there was 472 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: a time where home runs came in and we were 473 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: really into it. Maybe home runs of ordered down a 474 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: bit by pds. Yeah, we got to the point it 475 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: was too much, and that's really what it came down to. 476 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: There were too many home runs and it felt like 477 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: everybody was hitting home run and second baseman hitting opposite 478 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: field home runs, and then we realized why they're hitting 479 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: opposite field home runs. Yeah boy, But if I'm a 480 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: baseball fan of a certain team, I don't care my 481 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: team's style. If I'm a California Angels fan, you told me, well, 482 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna become a hit and run team and they're 483 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: actually gonna make the playoffs every other year and compete 484 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: for a title and play in October where I could 485 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: actually watch games that matter. Sign me up. I don't 486 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: know how many runs home runs the Cubs hit in 487 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. I don't know if they're a power team 488 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: or an average team. I sure enjoyed that season. I'm 489 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: telling you, I don't remember anything about home runs. Well, 490 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: regionally it works, you know, baseball and local markets works. 491 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: But we're talking about nationally growing the game. There's not 492 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: a team. There's not a team nationally that takes the 493 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: local fan. I'm only watching the Dodgers because they happen 494 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: to be in the World Series right now. I didn't 495 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: watch any Doctors games during the regular season, you know, 496 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: so there's no way you're gonna get a team. I 497 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: don't like to watch them in a regular season. There's 498 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: no Barry Bonds anymore. There's no compelling player. Well you might, yeah, 499 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: you're looking for that. Wow, I haven't seen this before. 500 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: Or somebody is having an unbelievable postseason run. You know, 501 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: I get that, But you know I understand. You know, 502 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about as a pure baseball fan looking 503 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: at this, saying is this Are you going to grow 504 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: the product? I go back to the new Jersey Devils. 505 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: They won the Stanley Cup. They had Marty Brodor's their goalie. 506 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: You know what they would do. They'd get up one 507 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: nothing and then they would go into this defensive shell. 508 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: Horrible boring, but they won. But it was bad for 509 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: the sport because you're tuning in to go. I don't 510 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: know who's any good here, but the Devil's won, and 511 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: that's all you guys are talking about. Hey, you got 512 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: to grow the sport. The NFL has grown the sport. 513 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: How did they do it? They open things up more offense, 514 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: the NBA more offense, Baseball's more offenses, more home runs. Yes, 515 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: but you just said make the parks bigger and more 516 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 1: defense for certain teams. That's the opposite. No, if I 517 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: had a ballpark that was a pitching ballpark, I would 518 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: play to my strengths there. But that's the more boring. 519 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: Remember the Mets brought in the fences because they had 520 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: they couldn't hit any home runs. They had a great 521 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: pitching staff, and then they go, our guys aren't good 522 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: enough to hit home runs. Can we bring the fences 523 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: in like ten feet here? Yes? Go back to twenty sixteen, 524 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: the Cubs were fourteenth in the league as a team, 525 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: and home runs hit right in the middle, they were 526 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: first in the league, and on base percentage they won 527 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: the World Series. That here. I know there's other factors 528 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: to it, but I'm gonna remember I don't remember anything 529 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: about their power or anything. I do remember the playoffs. Yes, dude, 530 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: None of these things, though, are addressing the true issue 531 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: with baseball. Just throw the damn ball and hit it. Stop. 532 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: Every single time a pitcher gets the ball, he steps 533 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: off the back of the mound, rubs the ball a bunch, big, 534 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: big thing. Then he gets back up, gets onto the mound, 535 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: settles himself doing a little wiggle or whatever other little 536 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: ticks he has, and then throws the ball. And then 537 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: the batter's got to step out because he's taken too long. 538 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: Readjust everything they go through the product. Just throw the 539 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: damn ball and either hit it or don't. But stop 540 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: with all of this time, get in the batter's box. 541 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: God on might get on the mound. Yes, it's inconsistent. 542 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: Why aren't there warnings about that? They were talking about 543 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: the clock and you have to throw a pitch within 544 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: a certain number of seconds. How come when a pitching 545 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: coach comes out the home played umpire panics us to 546 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: run out to make sure that that's spending too much 547 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: time talking and having a chat. But every pitch you 548 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: can take that much time between. Do you think when 549 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: if I talk to the commissioner privately, he would say, 550 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: I love where the game is, I love how it's 551 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: being played. Do you honestly think that McLevin, that the 552 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: commissioner would say, I love how is this is the 553 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: sport we're putting on for the national audience to consume. No, 554 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: but I don't think he thinks it's a disaster either. 555 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: I think he's in somewhere in between. Because the local 556 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: money is so good that they're making a lot of money. Yeah, 557 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: but Baseball makes their big money off these TV deals 558 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: and if nobody's watching on TV nationally during the playoffs 559 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: of the World Series, that's what the owners like, the 560 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: owners want to know. You know, we got to get 561 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: a product that's good, that's entertaining, and we haven't. Our 562 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: average demo is in the sixties. I think the average 563 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,719 Speaker 1: fan is probably sixty years of age. Based off what 564 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: baseball used to be. You still watch because you love 565 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: the game, but it's nowhere near what it once was 566 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: in how it showcased. We used to have a national 567 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: Game of the week. That was that it was you 568 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: would tune in to see the national game of the week. 569 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: When's the last time you watched Fox on Saturday afternoon 570 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: the national game of the week. But it's just counterintuitive 571 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: to say home runs is a problem because you know, 572 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: chicks take the long ball. These stereotype has always been 573 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: people love home It's it's the cotton candy of baseball. 574 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: It's the easy thing to consume. But if you said 575 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: that there were going to be home runs, but there 576 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: would be movement, like we don't even have people. There's 577 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: there's wide open down third base. I gotta do is 578 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: bunt it? Nobody? Nobody will bunt it, Nobody will get 579 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: on base, like Mookie Betts stole two basses in an 580 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: inning and I've flipped out that. Guys will hit the 581 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: relay man, great outfielders, great throws, like just there was 582 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: always movement in baseball. Remember a five tool player. Yeah, 583 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: we don't talk about that anymore, do we. It's like, 584 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: you're two tool player. I feel like you want to 585 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: make the game more old school, to be new school 586 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: in a way, and it's just I want to. I 587 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: want to. I want to bring back old school and 588 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 1: I want to incorporate that into New school, because I 589 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: do think you could have a combo platter there that 590 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: would make the game more enjoyable. And I don't talk 591 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: about boy, this game goes on forever. There are games 592 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: that go on. When the Astros and the Mets played 593 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: in what eighty six and Jesse Roscoe is on the mound, 594 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, in the fifteenth inning, I didn't. At no 595 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: point did I go, man, this game is taken forever. 596 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: It was when Carlton Fisk hit the home run to 597 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: beat the Reds Game six of the seventy five World Series. 598 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: I'd never I don't know how long a game went, 599 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: and I never said this game is taken forever. You 600 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: can have long games. Nobody says, boy, the SEC football 601 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: games take forever. They do. But I don't hear any 602 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: nobody's yelling about it. If you're if you have a 603 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: good product, I don't care how long it takes. Well, 604 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,239 Speaker 1: I do care, but you know you know what I'm 605 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: getting at. Yes, Todd, but that's back then. It was 606 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: intense because you had starters battling for seven eight and 607 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: nine sometimes to continue into extra innings. Well, you had 608 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: a manufacture run, you'd have an exciting even if it 609 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: took a long time at two one game or a 610 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: one nothing game, where that bunt or that squeeze play 611 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: at that double steal could be the difference on the 612 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: outcome of the game. That's when it was fun and 613 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: there was more things going on. Yeah, well this is 614 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: what we have. This is uh, this is and I'm 615 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: I can evolve. You know, I understand the three point 616 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: shot in the NBA. I just don't know. I can't 617 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: understand when you missed twenty four, twenty seven consecutive threes, Like, 618 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: to me, that's stupid, and it doesn't It seems like 619 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: it's counter counterproductive, like how about a jumper or layup? 620 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: But no, we're getting to keep shooting threes. That doesn't 621 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: sound like really smart analytics. And I didn't go to Harvard. 622 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: I've been to Harvard, but I didn't go there. Yeah. Point, 623 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: But we don't know what kids these days think of 624 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: the product. We know we think of the product because 625 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: we glorify what we grew up on in the eighties. 626 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: We think eighties baseball was super fun and super great. 627 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: It was also a lot of guys hitting you know, 628 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: two sixty five and you know, getting on basic moving along. 629 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: And you add guys who actually had high batting averages 630 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: back then, because batting averages mattered. But I wonder if 631 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: these guys all hit to thirty and we go, man, 632 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: you're killing it. You got forty one home runs. I 633 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: don't know if kids these days would enjoy the NBA 634 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: more now or then, Like the late eighties, early nineties 635 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: NBA when it was a slugfest, probably wouldn't be that 636 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: consumable right now. And the three point thing. There's a 637 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: lot of action in the game, there's a lot of scoring. 638 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,439 Speaker 1: There's no games in the seven. Yeah, but you only 639 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: have one way of scoring in baseball. Home runs. Likes it, 640 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: Like Andrew said the NBA, I got mid range jumpers 641 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: from Kevin Durant to Steph Curry, Trey Young hitting bombs 642 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 1: to you know, uh, Luca taken it to the basket, 643 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: Like I have multiple ways to score. Baseball has one 644 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: way to score. And that's all you see. It's not 645 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: like there's any novel approach here. Base hit you know, 646 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 1: runner leaving from second trying to score like these things 647 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: just don't happen anymore. And I don't. I don't. I 648 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: just don't want baseball to die. And I mean that's 649 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: really my biggest concern here. I don't want it to die. Yes. 650 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: Can I lighten the mood off of that death? I 651 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: guess your statement, Yes you can. It is a special 652 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:10,959 Speaker 1: pleasure for me to introduce our two home run Kings 653 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: for working families in America, Mike McGuire and Sammy Suser 654 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: of the White House of the White House, White House. 655 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: What does that mean? What is wrong with Ted Kennedy? 656 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: We're talking about home run Kings. Yeah. Hey, their household 657 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: names except in the White House. Mike McGuire and Sammy Suser. 658 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: Oh so good. Mike McGuire and Sammy Suser of the 659 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: White House of the White House. Oh, let me take 660 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: a break here, Let me take a break. Um, should 661 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick be heartbroken that he lost his job? I 662 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: have a quote that he had back in August he 663 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: knew this was gonna happen. I just think he forgot 664 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: that he had said that he knew this was going 665 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: to happen. I have that for you coming up next here. 666 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 667 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 668 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 669 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 670 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Tough 671 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: day for Ryan Fitzpatrick yesterday, as he found out that 672 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 1: he had been demoted. He said, he got fired, got fired, 673 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: I guess as the starter, but he still has a job. 674 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: Got demoted in two a tongue of Iloa is now 675 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: going to be the starting quarterback. This is what Ryan 676 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick had to say. This is back in August. He said, 677 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't know how much time it will be before 678 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: two of will be in the lineup. Fitzpatrick told the 679 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: Palm Beach Post that I am the placeholder. We've already 680 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: had that conversation. I told him, I'm going to do 681 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: the best I can to lead this team and win 682 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: football games. And when I'm out there, when I'm out there, 683 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,919 Speaker 1: whenever it is that two gets his chance, whether it's earlier, late, 684 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: or whenever, I'm going to be as big as cheerleader. 685 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: Here is Ryan Fitzpatrick and his reaction to the decision. 686 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 1: My heart is hurt all day it was heartbreaking for me. 687 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,439 Speaker 1: Or Flow kind of said what he said and said 688 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: what he said to you guys as well, and that's 689 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: the decision and the direction that the organization is going in. 690 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: And obviously, you know we've talked in the past, you 691 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: know how I'm the placeholder, and this eventually was going 692 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: to happen no matter. It was just a matter of 693 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: kind of when, not if. And it broke my heart yesterday. 694 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: And you know, it's a tough tough thing for me 695 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: to hear and to now have to deal with. But 696 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to do my best with it. 697 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: We weren't ready for something this, honest I think we 698 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 1: were surprised. I was because I thought, you know, Ryan Fitzpatrick, 699 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: he's been around, this has happened before, whatever is best 700 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: for the team. He's really looked up to, admired in 701 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: that locker room. I think he thought that the way 702 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: he was playing, he bought himself a couple extra weeks. 703 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 1: And I certainly understand it. I just think the Miami 704 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: Dolphins want to know what they have and they want 705 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: to know right now if they happen to make the playoffs, Okay, 706 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 1: but their goal is bigger than this of just making 707 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: the playoffs and right now three and three and in 708 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: that division, you know they get a chance wildcard. But 709 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: I think they want to see what they have. Chargers 710 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: found out what they have, and justin Herbert, the Bengals 711 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: know what they have in Joe Burrow. The Dolphins with 712 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: the fifth pick overall want to know what they have. 713 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: And two a tongue of ioloa. And the earlier you 714 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: find out the you know, the better your game plan 715 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: is of now what do we do now? Who do 716 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: we add now, what do we draft? Now? Who do 717 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: we trade for? And I think the Dolphins just kind 718 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: of sped up the clock, and I think two of 719 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: help that process. I think Ryan Fitzpatrick played well enough 720 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: to keep his job for a few more weeks. But 721 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: I think that this was a situation where the Dolphins thought, 722 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: if he wins a couple more games, it's even harder 723 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: to get Ryan Fitzpatrick out of there. Yeah, I thought 724 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: it was very refreshing. He didn't badmouth too. He never 725 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: said that he's gonna, you know, going forward, not to 726 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,479 Speaker 1: stand behind him. You know, we always you know, rip 727 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: coaches or players when they have that generic locker room 728 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: speaker they're just saying what we think they need to 729 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: say to come across like a good guy. He let 730 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: us see his true feelings and he felt like he 731 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: shouldn't be a benched yet. And I don't see anything 732 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: wrong with that. I would love that he handled it 733 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, set, I mean, I appreciate the honesty, 734 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: but I was more surprised by his surprise. But and 735 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 1: and and frankly, like just the outpouring of support for him, Like, oh, 736 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: just the most brutal video you'll watch today. My heart 737 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: is breaking right now for Ryan. Everybody was just tripping 738 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,720 Speaker 1: over themselves to just the unbelievable amount of sympathy and support. 739 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: I was like, dude, like, he's done this fifteen times. 740 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: What do you mean he of course he knew this 741 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: was happening. You're starting to sound like PAULI. Yeah, geez, 742 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: light up. Yeah. Everybody was just like, oh, this is 743 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: just soul crushing watching him go through such pain, Like, 744 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 1: what what are you talking about? We like the Ryan 745 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick's story, we do. He's the underdog, the ultimate underdog, 746 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 1: played well, got the young buck behind you, Here he comes, 747 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: when's he coming? And not yet? I'm playing well? And 748 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: then you the reason why I felt bad about this. 749 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: We're not bad, but I understand. I'm sympathetic. His kids 750 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,919 Speaker 1: found out when we found out, like his family found 751 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: out when we found out, and that's wrong. If you 752 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: want to tell him he's going to be demoted, then 753 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: at least give him a heads up. Then that's where 754 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: the Dolphins failed him. And maybe they told him, but 755 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, he didn't even get a chance to tell 756 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,919 Speaker 1: his family. Hey, his kids are at school. They found 757 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 1: out through social media. Yes, and he's not twenty five 758 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: or anything, you know, a career mortality. It settles in like, 759 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: is this gonna be I'm never going to start a 760 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: game again? This other factors at stake that you know, 761 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: maybe where where were his emotion on his sleeve, Whether 762 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: we were prepared for it or not. He may never 763 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: get an opportunity to start a game again unless there's 764 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: some injury, and I think that may be part of 765 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: the reason why he reacted that way. Thank you, Todd. 766 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: You guys have my word. Is that too obvious what 767 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: you say? No, I don't think you're listening. I wasn't listening. 768 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: You have my word that if I do demote you, 769 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: that I will let you tell your family before anybody 770 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: is before you announce it in the press, Yes, before 771 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: I announced it on this show. If any of you 772 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: gets demoted, not fired, I mean you could get fired, 773 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: but I don't know what you would have to do 774 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: to get fired. But if you got demoted and like 775 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: I put you in the back and you answered phone 776 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: calls and Marvin came out and sat in your place, 777 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 1: or Mario plan together. Not yet, but if it happens, 778 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: you have my word that you'll be able to tell 779 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: your family, maybe not your friends, but your family that 780 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: you got demoted. Final hour coming up. The name Tim 781 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: Donaghie has resurfaced, and it's not good.