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Speaker 1: now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeoman's it's a Monday edition of Talking Cowboys
Speaker 1: here from the s WBC Mortgage Studios and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: coming off what was a bit of a heartbreaker last
Speaker 1: night against the Pittsburgh Steelers, leading by ten heading into
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, but they couldn't hold off the charge
Speaker 1: from now the eight and O Pittsburgh Steelers fifteen unanswered
Speaker 1: fourth quarter points down the Cowboys and disproved I guess
Speaker 1: disimproved their record to two and seven on the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty campaign. Two and seven's no fun, no matter what,
Speaker 1: it's really not fun at all. But we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about some of the positives, and absolutely we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about some of the negatives for the Cowboys yesterday and
Speaker 1: the loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers. But first let me
Speaker 1: introduce everybody. Isaiah stand Back, Rob Phillips, heck Harrison, I'm
Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's and guys, there's a lot to unpack in
Speaker 1: this one. You've got really probably the best effort of
Speaker 1: the year out of all three phases. Probably your best
Speaker 1: offensive game since Dak Prescott was hurt. You had the
Speaker 1: best defensive outing that I think you've had all season long.
Speaker 1: Same thing with special teams who actually almost won you
Speaker 1: the game on a couple different occasions. But ultimately there's
Speaker 1: a lot to get into. Rob. You were the one
Speaker 1: that was actually in the building. What were your thoughts
Speaker 1: yesterday and what stuck out to you? Well, I want
Speaker 1: to throw something out to the panel to my guys,
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm being too optimistic about Sunday. Okay,
Speaker 1: where you guys like this? Where do you guys stand
Speaker 1: on moral victories in professional football? Oh? That's um man.
Speaker 1: I think moral victories are softer than baby poop. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, if you're just looking forward at this,
Speaker 1: I think I think my answer. You're paying guys to
Speaker 1: do a job, and I understand that. You know, the
Speaker 1: narrative on the football scene is the sixteen games, and
Speaker 1: it's long, but you know there are sometimes where you
Speaker 1: could say I guess in my in my in my marriage,
Speaker 1: I have moral victories, but I don't see any moral
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. That's the only way I
Speaker 1: could look at that. I just I never have thought
Speaker 1: that there was a place for moral victories in football. Okay,
Speaker 1: softer than baby Poop wrote that down. That's pretty soft, uh,
Speaker 1: and more moral victories? No, Um, Can you take things
Speaker 1: from this game and be inspired by them going into
Speaker 1: your bye week and preparing for the second half of
Speaker 1: your season. Yes, on paper, you're not supposed to be
Speaker 1: in the ball game with those guys. You just you
Speaker 1: just not, Um, the way those guys have been playing,
Speaker 1: the way we've been playing, you're not, regardless of your
Speaker 1: professionals or not, that's a better team right now, just period,
Speaker 1: point blank. Um. You could say, you know, they got professions,
Speaker 1: We got professions all day long, but they're just better. Um.
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of positives that came from
Speaker 1: this game, as you mentioned, a ton of positives, and
Speaker 1: you and you take those positives along with the negatives,
Speaker 1: right and you you you you analyze them, you self
Speaker 1: critique them. Um, you face them face to face, and
Speaker 1: then you say, guess what this is where we did
Speaker 1: good and we need to continue to do this well
Speaker 1: and this is where we have to get better going forward.
Speaker 1: But morally nah, because because as a competitor, you want
Speaker 1: to win that game. But in terms of when you
Speaker 1: break it down and you know, analytics and all the
Speaker 1: other aspects of the game, yeah, you should feel good
Speaker 1: about the direction that you're going in. Yeah, Zeke said
Speaker 1: after the game. There's no moral victories, and so I'll
Speaker 1: go with you guys on that. But I do feel
Speaker 1: like based on the bar that has been set through
Speaker 1: the first two months, given all the injuries and just
Speaker 1: given the lack of production, it's not a victory. And look,
Speaker 1: the first the first season I ever covered the Cowboys
Speaker 1: was Bill Parcels's first year n O three, and he's
Speaker 1: famous for saying you are what your record says you are.
Speaker 1: They're two and seven. It's a bad season, there's no
Speaker 1: way around it. It's another loss. But I do think
Speaker 1: in a way it was a victory for Mike McCarthy's program.
Speaker 1: Kind of to your point, Isaiah, that going into the
Speaker 1: bye week, they can say, look, we are getting better,
Speaker 1: there's signs of progress. We're staying the course, We're trying
Speaker 1: to introduce these new things. We just went toe to
Speaker 1: toe with the best team in the league by record,
Speaker 1: with our fourth quarterback of the season. That is at
Speaker 1: least day sign of progress, even though they lost the game,
Speaker 1: and it's it's obviously another you know, bad feeling going
Speaker 1: into a Monday Now. I like that. I really do
Speaker 1: rob it. And you know, moral victories aside. I just
Speaker 1: think you saw a spark from this total team. We
Speaker 1: talked about if there was gonna be any victory for
Speaker 1: this team, it was going to be in all three phases,
Speaker 1: and you saw more from all three phases. I mean
Speaker 1: special teams Rico down or where you've been my whole life, bro,
Speaker 1: I mean just everything that we saw. It's just we
Speaker 1: were not able to convert. And man, there was a
Speaker 1: couple of times where terrible towels made it down to
Speaker 1: the field and we're mistaken for flags that cost us.
Speaker 1: But I'm sure we'll talk about that also. But it
Speaker 1: was a lot of a lot of things to be
Speaker 1: I guess to be happy about as a Cowboy fan.
Speaker 1: Man Neville Gallimore, the third round pick, come on with it.
Speaker 1: I like that. I mean Neville Gallimore, he made a
Speaker 1: bleep on the radar and Randy Gregory Man. Randy Gregory Man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put him on my prayer list because this
Speaker 1: guy is playing lights out. He's doing a great job
Speaker 1: as far as getting to the quarterback, applying that pressure
Speaker 1: not only on the past but also in the run.
Speaker 1: There's so much to be proud of from a defensive
Speaker 1: standpoint them uh not allowing three hundred, two hundred yard
Speaker 1: rusher this game. Historically the defense has been so bad
Speaker 1: that you just needed to see something passing game. I know,
Speaker 1: we're look, there's a lot to talk about as far
Speaker 1: as the passing game is concerned, but you know, look,
Speaker 1: I just I just want to see a sign of life,
Speaker 1: and I think I saw it this Sunday is sah yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, Hector's hit it. I mean, like I
Speaker 1: alluded to already. Man, there's there's a lot of positives
Speaker 1: to take away from this game, especially in the situation
Speaker 1: that you're in as an organization. Um, they'll be they'll
Speaker 1: be okay, they'll be okay. Things are not okay right now,
Speaker 1: but this game, you know again, you know you got
Speaker 1: a team, you thought a team was Danny, you heard
Speaker 1: a little back a little bit. You know, there is
Speaker 1: some life. Um, there's some life. So I think I
Speaker 1: think there'll be okay going to second half of the season. No,
Speaker 1: what did what did Isaiah do? Last night? Y'all not
Speaker 1: telling Hey, what did you do? Heckma, heckma. We're gonna
Speaker 1: wait until the second segment for this. We're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna continue the second segment for this. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: chill for a second. And I want to kind of
Speaker 1: go off of what Robins said, and rob brought it
Speaker 1: up saying that that you did. You went toe to
Speaker 1: toe with the best team in the league right now,
Speaker 1: at least record wise, with your fourth string quarterback. So yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: moral victories aren't necessarily a thing, but the bar is
Speaker 1: starting to rise, and you're starting to see a turn
Speaker 1: of the corner, because what were we talking about four
Speaker 1: weeks ago, three weeks ago even, was the fact that
Speaker 1: this coaching staff was losing track, It was losing the
Speaker 1: locker room, it was unraveling a little bit whenever you
Speaker 1: came to the blowout loss against the Cardinals, and then
Speaker 1: you got blown out again twenty five to three against
Speaker 1: the Washington football team a week later, you were saying,
Speaker 1: what is happening in Dallas because Mike McCarthy apparently doesn't
Speaker 1: have a hold on this ball club. We now see
Speaker 1: he does have a hold, and they're starting to bring energy.
Speaker 1: They're starting to look like a real football team again.
Speaker 1: They're starting to feel like the Cowboys that we anticipated
Speaker 1: to see, except we just have a ton of injuries
Speaker 1: mixed in there as well, and they're just not the
Speaker 1: personnel that we thought they were going to be. But
Speaker 1: the energy and the improvement has been there, Isaiah, and
Speaker 1: that's something that I think you can look forward to
Speaker 1: going into the byeweek. Absolutely, I want to tip my
Speaker 1: hat off to all three coordinators, offensive, defensive, and special team.
Speaker 1: They all they all brought their eight game and so
Speaker 1: many times they get overlooked on the positive end of things,
Speaker 1: a lot of times they get a lot of the scrutiny.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've had their fair share from all of
Speaker 1: us this year. But this game they came to play.
Speaker 1: You know, we challenged Kellen Moore in terms of his
Speaker 1: last game. Is said that he had a failing grade.
Speaker 1: At least I said it. He had a feeling grade
Speaker 1: last game when he when he brought in d Nucci
Speaker 1: and he did. He failed as that was the first
Speaker 1: challenge he's ever really faced, in my opinion, UM with
Speaker 1: you know, with a lack luster roster UM, you know,
Speaker 1: lack luster UM. You know, a set of assets that
Speaker 1: he's had. You know, this time he had a chance
Speaker 1: to come back in UM and revived himself and he
Speaker 1: did so. Right, he had opportunity to do so, he
Speaker 1: came to play. He called a great game. I think
Speaker 1: offensively they did well. They averaged four and a half
Speaker 1: yards per carry. UM, they threw the ball well, you know,
Speaker 1: they kept him in good situations. There was probably only
Speaker 1: one series that I wish Kella Moore would have done
Speaker 1: things differently, and that's when when we had the interception, UM,
Speaker 1: you know, when we had a lot of momentum on
Speaker 1: the ground. I wish you would have ran that. Uh
Speaker 1: defensive wise, you mentioned it. These guys are they came
Speaker 1: to play right. These guys are, I think, are finally
Speaker 1: start starting to to really take on and incumbass the
Speaker 1: you know Mike Nolan's um, you know, regime and right
Speaker 1: and what he's trying to propose instead of trying to
Speaker 1: be so defensive towards it right. A lot of times
Speaker 1: when you're trying to say this is the way I
Speaker 1: do things. And that's why they got rid of those veterans,
Speaker 1: because those guys had enough experience where they can say,
Speaker 1: and what is I don't want to do it like that?
Speaker 1: Well got rid of those guys. Now you have a
Speaker 1: bunch of young guys to say, I'm willing to do
Speaker 1: it like that, and now you're starting to see the
Speaker 1: positive positive end of that. I mean, then the special
Speaker 1: team's coordinator, he is what we thought he was. Uh.
Speaker 1: He's aggressive, he's relentless, um, he doesn't care. He has
Speaker 1: a short memory. And hats off to coach McCarthy for
Speaker 1: giving these guys the confidence and do what they want.
Speaker 1: A lot of times head coaches don't allow you. They'll say, na, no, no, now,
Speaker 1: we're not doing that. He is letting Fossil go. He
Speaker 1: has a freedom to do whatever the heck he wants
Speaker 1: to Fossils coming up to him and say, hey, coach,
Speaker 1: how about a throw back on a kick off for turn?
Speaker 1: Most coaches would be like, the heck is wrong with you?
Speaker 1: But I guess what. He keeps trusting him, and he
Speaker 1: has a freedom to keep being creative and I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna pay off. Yeah, I know, like Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get criticized and challenge for, you know, electing
Speaker 1: to go with that field goal. I think it was
Speaker 1: a third quarter the third quarter to go up nineteen
Speaker 1: to nine, go up ten, and you know, at the
Speaker 1: time time, the logic makes sense in terms of this
Speaker 1: is your defense is playing, by far, it's best game
Speaker 1: of the season, and take take the points and try
Speaker 1: to try to stand up a couple more times and
Speaker 1: stop them. But to Isaiah's point, while you could criticize
Speaker 1: that for being conservative, man, some of these decisions on
Speaker 1: special teams, I mean they they went into the game thinking,
Speaker 1: we've got to do something kind of crazy, get kind
Speaker 1: of weird here and try to make some big plays
Speaker 1: to catch them off guard, you know, kind of like
Speaker 1: they did last week against the Eagles with some of
Speaker 1: the offensive formations. But yeah, you know, John Fossil Bones
Speaker 1: Fossil dialing some things up, man, and they almost they
Speaker 1: almost pulled it off on top of a pretty efficient
Speaker 1: performance by the offense given what they're missing. You know,
Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert did a nice job overall. I know he
Speaker 1: had to turn over. But but you know, he there
Speaker 1: was a clear difference between a seventh round rookie making
Speaker 1: his first start and a guy that hasn't played much
Speaker 1: but has been around the league in kind of managing
Speaker 1: that offense and driving the bus. He gave him a
Speaker 1: chance to win the game. Let's talk about Garrett Gilbert
Speaker 1: a little bit, and heckmo, whenever it comes to Gilbert
Speaker 1: and what he brought last night. He passed the eye test,
Speaker 1: he absolutely did. And there's gonna be a lot of controversy,
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a lot of conversation going into
Speaker 1: the bye week and then after the bye week on
Speaker 1: whether or not Andy Dalton should come back and be
Speaker 1: the quarterback, because even with Andy Dalton playing that whole
Speaker 1: game against Arizona and even the first half against Washington,
Speaker 1: he didn't look as competent back there as Garrett Gilbert did. Now,
Speaker 1: there was a leak year offensive line at the time.
Speaker 1: You didn't have Zach Martin for a little bit of
Speaker 1: that as well. But overall, against a very very good
Speaker 1: team in an incredible front seven, he stood up and
Speaker 1: he passed the eye test. Yesterday. What did you think
Speaker 1: of Gilbert? Man? The big ge Wagon double g got
Speaker 1: you got a nickname here Wagon, Hey Man. You know
Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert, Man, he had command of the offense. I loved,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of what he had going into
Speaker 1: the day. I didn't know what to expect from him
Speaker 1: at all, so I found it quite refreshing that he
Speaker 1: stood in the pocket. He delivered some really good throws
Speaker 1: that touchdown pass awesome, He did some I mean, look,
Speaker 1: he did some really good things that and it begs
Speaker 1: the question, going, who do you go with going forward?
Speaker 1: I know that's that's the controversy. And then also, had
Speaker 1: he played last week, we have been able to pull
Speaker 1: that out. I mean, all those are ifs and maybees.
Speaker 1: But still you could just tell from the way that
Speaker 1: Garret Gilbert stepped up and he made those throws. He
Speaker 1: wasn't afraid of the moment. And that's what I really
Speaker 1: loved the most about Garret Gilbert's performance last night. Man,
Speaker 1: he was a stunt. He did really good except for
Speaker 1: in the red zone. That one throw. I'm sure that's
Speaker 1: one that he wished he had. Yeah, I'm sure that's
Speaker 1: the one that he wished that he had back. But again,
Speaker 1: all in all, being the fourth quarterback. I was pleased
Speaker 1: with his performance. Yeah, I think on that one, you
Speaker 1: got to have the clock in your head. I guess
Speaker 1: down down there things happen faster. And he got hit.
Speaker 1: I mean he got hit as he was throwing, but
Speaker 1: you got to get rid of the ball. But you know,
Speaker 1: other than that, yeah, definitely, I mean I he kind
Speaker 1: of let the receivers get open and make play, let
Speaker 1: them go make plays, you know. And he also threw
Speaker 1: some dimes out there. So pretty effective performance. Um. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a is it is it going
Speaker 1: to be a controversy. I think it is. I think
Speaker 1: it definitely is really really oh yeah, okay, So are
Speaker 1: you saying it's a Garrett I don't. I don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know where I sit on I think the
Speaker 1: way Garrett Gilbert played is exactly what you want from
Speaker 1: your backup quarterback. Yes, your number two quarterback, much less
Speaker 1: than the number four guy coming in for the season.
Speaker 1: But that being said, I just I do feel like
Speaker 1: once Andy's back, and hopefully that's soon, um, I would
Speaker 1: expect him to get get the get the job back.
Speaker 1: But I guess we'll see. Isaiah Gilbert did it Gilbert
Speaker 1: did what he was supposed to do, and you know
Speaker 1: he kept the game competitive. He didn't he didn't mess
Speaker 1: the game up. He kept the game. He managed the
Speaker 1: game right, He managed the offense very well. Um, he
Speaker 1: wasn't asked to do anything outside of himself. Again, you
Speaker 1: already mentioned it, you know, Rob terms with that that
Speaker 1: red zone play, it shouldn't never the passionate never been called.
Speaker 1: I'll put it that way. Um, once the pass is called,
Speaker 1: his job is a not turn it over, and unfortunately
Speaker 1: he did. So you know that's I think that's on
Speaker 1: both of them, um for making making a bad call
Speaker 1: and making a bad decision with the ball. But other
Speaker 1: than that, he did a good job managing the game.
Speaker 1: In terms of the controversy, everybody knows I like any Dolden,
Speaker 1: I respect any Dalton what he's done in this league
Speaker 1: to date. Um the one the time, the two times
Speaker 1: we've seen him. Um, you know, we we saw a
Speaker 1: version of any Dalton that everybody expected, right, Kevi in
Speaker 1: the game after Za got hurt, after that got hurt
Speaker 1: and took care of business. Yeah, boom, there we go.
Speaker 1: That's the anti Dalton we expect to see. Annie Dalton
Speaker 1: that came back the next week. That wasn't just him right,
Speaker 1: it was we were, you know, damaged all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, damage and goods upfront. But unfortunately that's what
Speaker 1: was put on tape. So if I have to make
Speaker 1: a decision going forward, I'm going to ride this momentum
Speaker 1: that the office had and I'm going with Gilbert over
Speaker 1: Dalton this next game really quick. Yeah, they may do that,
Speaker 1: They may do that, you know. Uh, kind of going
Speaker 1: back to that that interception in the red zone, not
Speaker 1: only did Isaiah at the time, not only did we
Speaker 1: not like the play calling from Kellen Moore at that point,
Speaker 1: just run the football at that point and try and
Speaker 1: I mean you were running the ball extremely well on
Speaker 1: that drive initially, so why not stick with it and
Speaker 1: try and score there. The other thing was is even
Speaker 1: on that pass after it was called, there was a
Speaker 1: controversial no call whenever it came to pass interference on
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper. I wasn't necessarily as adamant about the past
Speaker 1: interference call at that point. We're gonna talk about some
Speaker 1: penalties and some calls that were definitely blatant coming up
Speaker 1: on the next segment. But I hear that you didn't
Speaker 1: like the call. What are your thoughts on it? Because
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of a back and forth there. No, man,
Speaker 1: it was they didn't call it. I mean, it's right
Speaker 1: in the face of rep standing there. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: pass interference. They would have got it. I mean other
Speaker 1: teams are getting PI. Why can't we get PI? What's
Speaker 1: up with that? I mean, I don't know. It's it's obvious.
Speaker 1: It's not even up a question. And to me to
Speaker 1: in a situation like that, where you know, we're in
Speaker 1: the red zone, we're fighting tooth and nail and it's
Speaker 1: a PI right there, you don't call it. That's that's lame.
Speaker 1: I didn't like it. Didn't like it, Rob, What do
Speaker 1: you think about it? Same deal, same deal. I you
Speaker 1: know there there were there were some weird calls on
Speaker 1: both sides, so I think in the end it all
Speaker 1: kind of evens out. But yeah, I had the same
Speaker 1: feelings acted Isaiah. Yeah, I mean I think it definitely
Speaker 1: have been called. I mean, you know, rests. Unfortunately, rests
Speaker 1: are human, right, so they're gonna be something in your favorite,
Speaker 1: something that aren't in your favor. It didn't get caught.
Speaker 1: So here here we are. You know, talking, you know,
Speaker 1: really talking about it doesn't It doesn't do anybody any good,
Speaker 1: you know, just try to find a way to work
Speaker 1: around it. Unfortunately, we've all been there, and I don't
Speaker 1: I know, Cowboys fans probably don't want to hear this,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say it. Anyways, you had that one
Speaker 1: takeaway a touchdown from you later in the game, but
Speaker 1: you also had one that was taken away from the
Speaker 1: Steelers early in the game on what was a no
Speaker 1: call on pass interference on that play down the sideline
Speaker 1: to Chase Claypool. I think it was the first drive
Speaker 1: of the game, and there was one where there was
Speaker 1: a lot of early contact and they ended up not
Speaker 1: calling it and it could have easily been past interference
Speaker 1: and that would have said, I believe the Steelers up
Speaker 1: inside the fifteen, and instead it forced a punt. And
Speaker 1: so I think you're gonna have players that go your way,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be players that don't go your way. I
Speaker 1: think that was one that just didn't go your way
Speaker 1: on kind of a fifty fifty ball that I think
Speaker 1: it would have been past interference. I would have thrown
Speaker 1: a flag on it. I'm also paid referee, so nobody
Speaker 1: cares what I think. But overall, I think it was
Speaker 1: a game that it was a play that could have
Speaker 1: gone either way, and they just didn't go in favor
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys. Now, there were some penalties that we
Speaker 1: did agree with from a referee perspective and that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys didn't agree with from their own personnel perspective. We
Speaker 1: hear about Jalen Smith and some of the key mistakes
Speaker 1: that were made late. We're going to discuss whether or
Speaker 1: not he took accountability for it and what happened later
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Speaker 1: Monday after a twenty four nineteen loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers,
Speaker 1: Cowboys now at two and seven, the Steelers, the only
Speaker 1: undefeated team in the NFL, now at eight n O,
Speaker 1: securing what is their seventeenth straight non losing season for
Speaker 1: the Steelers, fourteen of those with Mike Tomlin, who is
Speaker 1: still now undefeated against Mike McCarthy in the regular season.
Speaker 1: But McCarthy got him in the Super Bowl, so I
Speaker 1: guess that's good for coach. But lots to talk about.
Speaker 1: In this game from yesterday and including the latter parts
Speaker 1: of the game, we saw some key mistakes and some
Speaker 1: key penalties that cost the defense, who had their best
Speaker 1: game of the year. We have already talked about that
Speaker 1: cost the defense a couple chances to get off the
Speaker 1: field and rob Whenever you look at some of these penalties,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys personnel wives and I mean we heard it
Speaker 1: from Jalen Smith yesterday, didn't like it. It thought that
Speaker 1: they were kind of bogus penalties. What did you think
Speaker 1: about the calls, especially whenever it comes to the hands
Speaker 1: to the face, the pass interference and then even the
Speaker 1: latent vander esh quote unquote punch, but it really wasn't
Speaker 1: a punch. It was more of a slap. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's what the ref saw. He saw him slap
Speaker 1: him on the helmet. I don't know if he really saw,
Speaker 1: uh the Steelers player kind of grabbing his you know,
Speaker 1: pushing his face. So, you know, I think it's what
Speaker 1: the ref saw at that time. As far as the
Speaker 1: Jalen plays thought, the first one, the holding call, uh
Speaker 1: was was pretty questionable in my opinion. But by the rule,
Speaker 1: if you if you if you grab the player, then
Speaker 1: they're they're probably gonna call it. Same thing with the PI.
Speaker 1: If you hit the quarterback in this day and age
Speaker 1: in the head, no matter whether it's intentional or not,
Speaker 1: they're gonna call it. And I correct me if I'm wrong. Guys,
Speaker 1: I don't feel like this is the first time that's
Speaker 1: happened to Jalen where he's rushing and he and he's
Speaker 1: gotten called for a similar type play and so that's
Speaker 1: been on tape, and so it happened, and that's kind
Speaker 1: of by the letter of the law kind of thing,
Speaker 1: and and that's why they made the call. So especially
Speaker 1: with the Hall of Fame quarterback, they're probably gonna call
Speaker 1: that play. They're gonna call it. Yeah, there's a there's
Speaker 1: a percentage of guys in the NFL that you can't touch.
Speaker 1: I mean, you got to sack them just the right way.
Speaker 1: And it makes me sick the way that the rules
Speaker 1: have changed the game, uh these I mean and also
Speaker 1: being sold to hell out of the call also. But
Speaker 1: you can't do it. You can't touch it, you can't know,
Speaker 1: you can't have hands to the face, you can't be
Speaker 1: blocked to a guy's legs. Or any of that that
Speaker 1: they're gonna call rough. In the past, the passing ofference
Speaker 1: one as questionable, you know, it was, and they've called
Speaker 1: some worse ones and they had no calls on other ones.
Speaker 1: I just didn't feel like it was as malicious a call.
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought Claypool felt that's just the way
Speaker 1: that it looked. I've rewinded, I've looked at it, but
Speaker 1: he sold it really well. But that's the thing about Jalen.
Speaker 1: He has just been on the end of some horrible calls,
Speaker 1: and you know, and we've been at the Cowboys that
Speaker 1: have been at the end of some horrible calls period,
Speaker 1: you know. But you know, if it goes back to
Speaker 1: the face masks and Cleveland that continues to drive the
Speaker 1: Layton Vanderesh one that you know, look, man, you got
Speaker 1: teams that are just straight up just trying to They're
Speaker 1: just trying to have up that way with us. And
Speaker 1: this guy has his hand up on the Vaderesh's neck
Speaker 1: and he's trying to swipe this guy's hand away and
Speaker 1: they called fifteen yards. That takes that three and out
Speaker 1: all the momentum that we were gaining as a defense.
Speaker 1: Those penalties just wiped us out and allowed for the
Speaker 1: offense could two continue drives, And so people are gonna
Speaker 1: feel and jump on Jalen and say, look, man, he's
Speaker 1: and deservedly so you know, he's been a part of
Speaker 1: some back halls, some mistackles, back coverage, all of that,
Speaker 1: but man, a lot of that. To me, I looked
Speaker 1: at it, it's just man, Rothlisberger sold it. And obviously
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't hit a quarterback in the head.
Speaker 1: That's just those are the rules, Isaiah. Before you get
Speaker 1: started here, this is kind of surprising to me because
Speaker 1: at least with you and I yesterday during post game,
Speaker 1: and we were in there with Nate Newton and Barry
Speaker 1: Church as well, but it was a very different feel
Speaker 1: on what the penalties meant and what they kind of
Speaker 1: showed with this team. I mean, Robin and Heckman both
Speaker 1: agree that there's a lot of controversy with the calls,
Speaker 1: and I think there was controversy period, But at some
Speaker 1: point there's got to be some accountability, right absolutely, And um,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll double back on what I what I
Speaker 1: said yesterday. First of all, I have to if anybody
Speaker 1: doesn't know what I said yesterday, you got to go
Speaker 1: back and watch the OT. I think we got to
Speaker 1: broke it down on the website. But UM, I pretty much.
Speaker 1: I I commented on Jaylen Smith following following his comments
Speaker 1: UM in a postgame interview, and I have to I
Speaker 1: have to clear up some things. My mom got on
Speaker 1: my head this morning because she saw it. But I
Speaker 1: opened up my response by saying, you know respond, you know,
Speaker 1: act like a man. And when I said that, I
Speaker 1: meant how he presented himself in the post game. Everybody
Speaker 1: has their own opinions on how you present yourself after
Speaker 1: a game. You know, my procession how I've always been taught.
Speaker 1: You know, this stem from coach Willingham, is when you
Speaker 1: step up to the podium and you're not only representing yourself,
Speaker 1: but you're representing your teammates and you're representing the entire organization.
Speaker 1: So I was I was displeased to how he present
Speaker 1: into himself. So that's when I made that comment. So
Speaker 1: let me clear that up. UM. As we started talking
Speaker 1: about some of these things, some of these penalties and
Speaker 1: an accountability to too much yesterday, UM not only just
Speaker 1: Jalen UM, I think I think UM we also heard
Speaker 1: it from UM why can I think right now? Um
Speaker 1: defensive end um yeah, yeah from from law yeah, from
Speaker 1: the law dog. He complained about the referees a lot
Speaker 1: as well. Listen up. The penalties are penalties, right, And
Speaker 1: I recognize that people are fans and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of emotions, and you know how I am. Heck, I
Speaker 1: take the emotion out of it. I don't care right, Um,
Speaker 1: it was it was a penalty, bro Um. It was
Speaker 1: a penalty. And you know with Claypool's two hundred and
Speaker 1: forty pounds, you hit them, You hit them after five yards,
Speaker 1: you hit them. It is what it is. You don't
Speaker 1: like it, you don't have to like it, but the
Speaker 1: rules say and I don't. I as a player, I
Speaker 1: didn't always like the rules. As a former player, I
Speaker 1: don't always like the rules, especially with the way the
Speaker 1: game's gone. The game is a lot more softer than
Speaker 1: out than it ever was. Right. But you hit him right,
Speaker 1: and then you go into the hands of the face. Right,
Speaker 1: you hit Ben Roethlisberger in the face, his helmet turned.
Speaker 1: His helmet turn wasn't intentional every time? By no means
Speaker 1: was it intentional. But guess what it doesn't say if
Speaker 1: you do this intently that that that you get a penalty.
Speaker 1: It says if you hit him in the face, you
Speaker 1: get a penalty, so that or if that's the fact
Speaker 1: so and then the LVEE, I know you just talked
Speaker 1: about it. Heck in terms of dude, push him first.
Speaker 1: Listen up. These are all men playing the game. But
Speaker 1: these are all grown men playing the game, right, and
Speaker 1: these guys all have pride. Lv E made a heck
Speaker 1: of a play. He came up, got a great hit, boom,
Speaker 1: stuck him on the ground, drove him into the ground.
Speaker 1: There is a very distinct and a very fine line
Speaker 1: of making a good play and letting that turn into hey,
Speaker 1: I tackled you and I'm about to get up versus
Speaker 1: I tackled you. I tackled you and I'm about to
Speaker 1: punk you. And'll let you know that I that I
Speaker 1: did this to you. Right, Yeah, you're gonna take this.
Speaker 1: I'm putting you in the ground, and LVEE cross stay
Speaker 1: in line. It was a split second. It's a split
Speaker 1: second and when that happened, you saw the tackle, and
Speaker 1: it'll be kind of give him a little extra like, yeah, boy,
Speaker 1: as a man, as a man, get off me, right,
Speaker 1: get off me right, and that's what you saw. What
Speaker 1: LVE can't do is respond that is a lack of
Speaker 1: emotional intelligence. When you react like that in that situation.
Speaker 1: There there's a no win situation. There's no point in
Speaker 1: any game where you're gonna be a defender and you're
Speaker 1: gonna be able to hit somebody, hit down on somebody
Speaker 1: while you're over them, right, while you're straddling them, and
Speaker 1: you think that you're not gonna get called for that.
Speaker 1: It's just not a reality. It doesn't matter if you
Speaker 1: like it. It doesn't matter if you think the call
Speaker 1: was bs'. It's not gonna work to your advantage. And
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody that can come out here
Speaker 1: and argue that if you straddle a man and you
Speaker 1: push down on him or whether you're hitting his hand,
Speaker 1: hitting his fingernail, I don't care what you're hitting if
Speaker 1: you swing down on him, regardless of it was intent
Speaker 1: to hit him or not, which it was. It it
Speaker 1: was open hand slap, but it came across like you
Speaker 1: got he was punching them. You're not gonna win that.
Speaker 1: So when you go into the post game and these
Speaker 1: guys try to blame everything out of referees. It's soft
Speaker 1: to me, it's soft, just like heck it said it was.
Speaker 1: It was baby baby poop. This is softest tissue paper, right,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. This is a man, This is like
Speaker 1: this is this is like the public bathroom toilet paper. Right,
Speaker 1: and you can see you can see through it, right,
Speaker 1: you can see through it. You take it, You take
Speaker 1: accountability for what you did. And I hate and I
Speaker 1: I don't want to say hey, because that's a strong word.
Speaker 1: I very much have a distaste for people who don't
Speaker 1: take accountability. As a player. They are plays to this
Speaker 1: day that haunt me as a as a former quarterback
Speaker 1: in college. Right, it's plays in this to this day
Speaker 1: in my players that I've had in the NFL that
Speaker 1: haunt me to this day because not only did they
Speaker 1: hurt me in my resume, man, because I put it
Speaker 1: on film, but they hurt my team, right, they hurt
Speaker 1: my team. Those penalties hurt them. So the first thing
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do is say it's on me. It's on me,
Speaker 1: and guess what, I'm gonna get it wrecked it even
Speaker 1: if I don't agree with it, Guess what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take a look at it, and I'm gonna make sure
Speaker 1: that this doesn't happen again so that I'm ensued that
Speaker 1: I don't hurt myself or my teammates and my organization
Speaker 1: going forward. Don't place to blame on somebody else. That's
Speaker 1: a cop out, man, And that was my response. That
Speaker 1: was my sentiments yesterday and today. What LV did wasn't
Speaker 1: like dunking on a guy and putting your shorts on
Speaker 1: his head. Oh yeah, man, Patrick, man Like, it wasn't
Speaker 1: like it wasn't like that he made his tackle. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like he pushed the guy back into the ground.
Speaker 1: Come off the gas. I said, come on, let me
Speaker 1: frame it like this. Heck, if little Heck got tackled
Speaker 1: like that, and another and another, another little boy stayed
Speaker 1: on him and was like like, gave a little extra
Speaker 1: you're gonna be like, Heck, you break get up now.
Speaker 1: See my son is roguish. So my son, we'd have
Speaker 1: got thrown out of the game and all that. So
Speaker 1: exactly like the way you got things going on over here,
Speaker 1: we've been different. That would have been a teachable moment.
Speaker 1: But if Heck was getting paid hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 1: dollars a game, look and and look cut all that out. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm saying is that wasn't egregious. And for that guy
Speaker 1: to put his hand under Layton Vanderess got like that,
Speaker 1: he got his arms underneath and he was like, get
Speaker 1: off me. All I'm saying is they called it they
Speaker 1: killed with That was for us. I think that was
Speaker 1: the three and that we had done everything defensively that
Speaker 1: we needed to do. That was something to celebrate in
Speaker 1: a fifteen yard penalty continues to drive. If you're talking
Speaker 1: about emotional intelligence just situational awareness, I get you. I
Speaker 1: feel you, okay, But at the same time, we have
Speaker 1: teams coming into at and T Stadium or when we're
Speaker 1: on the road that think they could just have their
Speaker 1: way with us dog. And if Layton Vanderess is like
Speaker 1: na Stadio little lass down here, then I'm support that, right,
Speaker 1: but at the same support you and then I have
Speaker 1: it and if that's the case. And if that's the case,
Speaker 1: then I understand your point. But I didn't feel as
Speaker 1: though it was like that. I think that his swiping
Speaker 1: his hand away was like, come on, bro, you can't
Speaker 1: just have your hand under my face mask. I guess
Speaker 1: and guess and guess what I don't and I don't
Speaker 1: disagree with you in that right. That's anybody's response. However,
Speaker 1: the emotional intelligence and understanding the situation that you're not
Speaker 1: going to win, that you're not going to win, that
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter you're not. This isn't an about my
Speaker 1: manhood at that moment. I did my job right in
Speaker 1: terms of me protecting my manhood and my pride. I
Speaker 1: did what I was supposed to do. Now, guess what
Speaker 1: you swinging at me. I expect that. But what I
Speaker 1: can't do is react to that right because now I'm
Speaker 1: upon it, you're controlling me. He didn't have his shorts
Speaker 1: on his head, man, that's all. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: think what Isaiah's saying. You know, there are so many
Speaker 1: plays that are things that are called through the course
Speaker 1: of the game. Things have a way of evening out.
Speaker 1: There was a potential PI on the Cowboys defense that
Speaker 1: wasn't called early in the game. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't put it all on the refs. I would say,
Speaker 1: as much as this defense has struggled this year and
Speaker 1: you're this close to knocking off an unbeaten team, I
Speaker 1: understand the frustration. Immediately after the game. But Isaiah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I agree with you in terms of it's not the
Speaker 1: refs that beat you. And the thing about it is,
Speaker 1: when you look back at this game, there's so much
Speaker 1: to build off of, there's so much to be positive
Speaker 1: about the spite of loss. But ultimately they kind of
Speaker 1: lost in the same ways they've lost games when you
Speaker 1: really think about it. They had penalties that cost them,
Speaker 1: and they lost the turnover battle once again. They gave
Speaker 1: up six points off of two turnovers and lost by
Speaker 1: five points. And that's that's frustrating too. There's one thing
Speaker 1: that my dad always told me, and we've already talked
Speaker 1: about Isaiah's mom. We've talked about heck of A's son.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to bring my family into it first
Speaker 1: foot second. But my dad always told me, too much
Speaker 1: of a good thing can turn into a bad thing
Speaker 1: very quickly. And I think we've been waiting to see
Speaker 1: the energy. We've been waiting to see the fight, and
Speaker 1: I use that word intentionally from this defense and from
Speaker 1: this sideline for the Cowboys, Well we got it. We
Speaker 1: got the energy, We've got the fight. We've seen that
Speaker 1: against Philadelphia, We've now seen it against Pittsburgh. But you
Speaker 1: got to use it in the right spot. And I
Speaker 1: think that's what Isaiah's saying. I think he was on
Speaker 1: that same boat as well. You gotta know the situation,
Speaker 1: and you gotta know where your team is and who
Speaker 1: you're playing against. At the same time. That wasn't the Eagles,
Speaker 1: that wasn't the Washington football team or the New York
Speaker 1: Giants that you've seen earlier in the year. Wasn't even
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. That was the Pittsburgh freakin Steelers who
Speaker 1: were seven and ozero and in your house. You gotta
Speaker 1: know the situational levitation or a situation at whatever the
Speaker 1: word may be. You gotta have the rights mindset in
Speaker 1: that very moment or else that energy is gonna get
Speaker 1: to you. And I think it did a little bit.
Speaker 1: It was still a tiki tack call. I completely agree
Speaker 1: with all three of you guys, But overall, you gotta
Speaker 1: know whether or not you can retaliate like that. And
Speaker 1: Layton Vanderesh costs his team fifteen yards in a crucial
Speaker 1: moment of the football game. Now when we come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about even less than the yard. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about that fourth down an inches call that
Speaker 1: Rob alluded to a little bit earlier. Was that something
Speaker 1: the Cowboys should have kicked a field goal to go
Speaker 1: up by ten, or at least continue driving when they're
Speaker 1: running the ball so effectively. We talk about that when
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Speaker 1: Continuing on this twenty twenty NFL season, Lots to talk
Speaker 1: about and not enough time again in this show. Forty
Speaker 1: five minutes is all we get. But we will get
Speaker 1: to talk about it again tomorrow. But it's a new
Speaker 1: crew tomorrow for Talking Cowboys and all of the Dallas
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Speaker 1: on this show tomorrow as Nate Newton and Nick Eatman
Speaker 1: will join me. Isaiah will move his way later in
Speaker 1: the day to the break. He'll be Oh, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm just shifting you around. It's it's not why do
Speaker 1: you get to stay? That's not get stay. I guess
Speaker 1: because I'm the most That's That's the only reason I
Speaker 1: guess they kept. Oh so Isaiah is with Barry in
Speaker 1: Curved Friday Derek on the break and it's not Friday.
Speaker 1: Does that mean we have to do saying with the
Speaker 1: Chest today? Rob with hanging with the boys. We've got
Speaker 1: uh and then we've got heckma oh. This is gonna
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Speaker 1: lot of fun. So tune in throughout the Can you
Speaker 1: guys make Mickey just throw his headset and walk off.
Speaker 1: That's what I want to see. I'm gonna do my
Speaker 1: best do it. Just make it happen for me. Oh, heck,
Speaker 1: were you on the show with with Mickey at one
Speaker 1: point we're talking right at the beginning of this. I
Speaker 1: can't remember. That was a trial by fire? Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: And man, I mean Mickey, Mickey would come into the studio,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't even speak to me. He just lay his
Speaker 1: folder down and just that's nothing personal. That's just the Spagnola.
Speaker 1: I didn't take it personally. No good. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Just shifting things around for the
Speaker 1: bye week. It's something that we've done previously. Also for
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Speaker 1: of early this year and get things started in December
Speaker 1: at least that's what Derek announced last week on Twitter,
Speaker 1: and man, there are some really really cool things in
Speaker 1: the works for that as well, So keep up on
Speaker 1: that one and be ready for some news to come
Speaker 1: down here in the next couple of weeks. But let's
Speaker 1: go into the final couple minutes here of talking Cowboys
Speaker 1: and whenever you talked about Rob the fourth down controversy
Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy's gonna be questioned about this. I thought
Speaker 1: it was the right call. We had some disagreement and
Speaker 1: studio back and forth on whether or not on fourth
Speaker 1: and inches deep in your opponent's territory, whether or not
Speaker 1: to go for it as you're up by seven, or
Speaker 1: kick the field goal and make it two possessions. I'm
Speaker 1: interested to see what you guys thought, especially Rob. You
Speaker 1: brought it up earlier as a controversy. Did you think
Speaker 1: that that call should have gone a different way? I
Speaker 1: understood the logic at the time. As I said, I
Speaker 1: was surprised that he did it, and I expected him
Speaker 1: to go for it because I think that's something we've
Speaker 1: seen McCarthy do. He's been aggressive in situations like that.
Speaker 1: He trusted his defense in that regard. They did play
Speaker 1: well last night, but you are playing against a Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, future Hall of Fame quarterback who that last
Speaker 1: touchdown drive when they got to the four minutes. That's
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger has done that a hundred times in his career,
Speaker 1: and he was able to be productive and found a
Speaker 1: way to win that game. When Trayvon Dix goes out,
Speaker 1: Savon Smith comes in at cornerback. It was almost like
Speaker 1: Ben said, oh, you're new in the game, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go at you two or three times, and
Speaker 1: a future Hall of Fame quarterback found a way to
Speaker 1: win the game. So I was surprised that, who, given
Speaker 1: who you're up against, you play conservative in that situation. Late, Yes,
Speaker 1: I was. I just wanted to mention Rob that he
Speaker 1: was on one leg. He wasn't he was? He was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did. It was flashbacks to the Packer playoff game, wasn't.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty I'm pretty sure he sprained his mcl on
Speaker 1: that play. Just saying yeah, I wasn't surprised. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh still a defense. These guys have been balling out.
Speaker 1: Take the points, you know, I mean, your your inches,
Speaker 1: no matter what I mean, guys did y'all see the
Speaker 1: way Cameron Hayward was man handling the left side of
Speaker 1: our offensive lineman. Who's on the left side. Look, look,
Speaker 1: let's let's just say this. You have you hey, I know,
Speaker 1: you know isaid when you're hey, somebody's on your bike
Speaker 1: and you you're you're living a ride on your handlebars.
Speaker 1: He was flitting Connor on his handlebars and just riding
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. It's embarrassing, you know, the job that
Speaker 1: they did defensively on our left side. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think they took the points, and a lot of
Speaker 1: people would have preferred them. What do you have to lose?
Speaker 1: Is the going mantra here that on that decision. But
Speaker 1: I didn't have a problem with it. No, I agree.
Speaker 1: I think I told Kyll that in studio. Take the points, man.
Speaker 1: You don't want to You don't want to give those
Speaker 1: guys that momentum, and your old line is not better
Speaker 1: than their defensive line, and you're running back hasn't been
Speaker 1: running as efficient as effectively as you like them to be.
Speaker 1: So you take those points, no brainer. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: the one that I really didn't understand that people were
Speaker 1: mad about was early in the game. Where they were
Speaker 1: like inside their own thirty Hell no, I mean why
Speaker 1: would you put I mean, all we've talked about all
Speaker 1: season long was you're putting your defense in bad spots
Speaker 1: with turnovers. Why would you risk that that early in
Speaker 1: the game. I think I think the one we just
Speaker 1: talked about you could question more than that one. And
Speaker 1: even with the way that things turned out, I mean,
Speaker 1: you gave up fifteen unanswered points in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: If you went and went down and scored, you would
Speaker 1: have only been up by fourteen. So either way, I mean,
Speaker 1: I know you would have only needed a field goal
Speaker 1: there at the end, and I guess that does count
Speaker 1: for something. But regardless, things didn't necessarily work out for
Speaker 1: you down the stretch like you thought it would whenever
Speaker 1: you kick that field goal. Initially I thought, you take
Speaker 1: the points. You don't know how many chances you're gonna
Speaker 1: get to be back that deep in the territory. And
Speaker 1: not to mention it is an extra possession. It went
Speaker 1: from one possession to two possessions, and I think that's
Speaker 1: something that's that you can hang your hat on from
Speaker 1: a coaching staff perspective, saying, hey, let's distance ourselves a
Speaker 1: little bit going into the fourth quarter and hopefully our
Speaker 1: defense continues to do what they've been doing, and that's
Speaker 1: exactly what they made the decision on, but it just
Speaker 1: didn't work out for the Cowboys twenty four nineteen the
Speaker 1: loss yesterday. So that's gonna do it here for Talking
Speaker 1: Cowboys on this Monday once again. Not the same crew
Speaker 1: tomorrow on Talking same time though, nine thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be so sad. We won't be back until
Speaker 1: next Monday and we can start talking about really the
Speaker 1: first half of the season. I'm gonna bring some fire
Speaker 1: questions next Monday, since we won't have a game to
Speaker 1: break down, We're gonna get into some some future stuff
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. We're also going to talk about maybe
Speaker 1: some personnel changes coming up as well, which will be
Speaker 1: fun with some of these young guys making their names.
Speaker 1: Uh be heard, Hey Kyle, Hey Kyle, what's that? Kyle?
Speaker 1: And Rob and Rob pick pick Washington too. By the way,
Speaker 1: uh Friday doing albums. You guys over You guys overruled me.
Speaker 1: You guys overruled men. The g men stand up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. He did get that one. Okay, how about that?
Speaker 1: Oh man? That's interesting about those giants. Man, the giants
Speaker 1: saving Rob a game, So that's kind of fun. But everybody,
Speaker 1: have a great week if you're joining us now. I
Speaker 1: don't even know what I'm about to say. I got
Speaker 1: thrown off by Heckman talking at the end, but appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys for joining us. For heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: I stand back in for Chris Beam in the back
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