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Speaker 1: fad Man? Good Chris. I'd like to say on TV

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Speaker 1: That's six. There's no way they keep six guys on

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00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 1: the edge. I mean maybe some special teams weigh or something.

431
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you'd think five would be the max.

432
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,640
Speaker 1: And the idea of cutting any one of those players,

433
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,439
Speaker 1: I mean, the only guy that really makes any logical

434
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,439
Speaker 1: sense is Mario Addison. And this is the guy that

435
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:26,880
Speaker 1: you just asked to take a pay cut to stay

436
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 1: on the roster and who Brandon Bean has talked about

437
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 1: having a role, having an educational role at worst, and

438
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,359
Speaker 1: being in a situation where they want to specifically get

439
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 1: a more pass rush reps so they don't wear out

440
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 1: his body like they think they did last year. So

441
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 1: the bottom line, they think there's a plan for him,

442
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,719
Speaker 1: and you know, he might be six of six in

443
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Speaker 1: terms of the likely guys who are released when we

444
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 1: get to cut down days last week of August. So

445
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,239
Speaker 1: it is a fascinating discussion. And we even gotten into

446
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, and I think you want to step back

447
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 1: big picture, this is where this team is developed too,

448
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 1: to where when we get to final cuts, we get

449
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 1: to the final fifty three, there's gonna be six or

450
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 1: seven or eight guys who are put on the market

451
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 1: who are legit solid NFL players, I mean linebackers. Another

452
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 1: spot where that might happen offensive line again. You know,

453
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 1: Brandon me to set himself up to where if he

454
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Speaker 1: wants to make that late August trade for a bonus

455
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: fifth sixth round pick, like he's done so well the

456
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: first three years he was in Buffalo, there's an opportunity

457
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 1: to make that happen again. There's a lot of talent,

458
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,919
Speaker 1: a lot of depth on this team, and you know,

459
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: takeaways from the ota that I saw on Wednesday, that's

460
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 1: what a lot of us were talking about in the

461
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 1: stands about the number of guys who are good on

462
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 1: this team who are not going to make this team

463
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: simply because they're enough roster spots. Yeah, And what I'm

464
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: wondering is if you, because we always hear this from

465
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 1: from the coaches over the years, we want to keep

466
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Speaker 1: the best fifty three players. Well, if you're so loaded

467
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 1: at defensive end, and you've got enough of those guys

468
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 1: that offer the position flexibility that they've talked about, you know,

469
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: kicking like Fao Body, you can kick him down inside

470
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: on a passing down, he can help you out there.

471
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Speaker 1: And there's other guys too, including the two draft choices,

472
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: who have played inside at least at the college level,

473
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: and there are plans to do that with Rousseau, according

474
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Speaker 1: to Brandon Bean. I wonder if they say to themselves,

475
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 1: we've got six defensive ends, and our six defensive end

476
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 1: is better than our fourth or fifth defensive tackle. So

477
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 1: we're keeping him, and we're only going to keep three

478
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 1: dts on the active roster, and maybe we'll carry two

479
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 1: on the practice squad. I wonder if we see some

480
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 1: unusual position numbers because of how loaded this roster is

481
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Speaker 1: and I know I'm projecting all the way into the

482
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: end of August now with the fifty three man roster,

483
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Speaker 1: But are these are the things I think about in

484
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 1: early June when there's no football going on? Well, of course,

485
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: what else there to talk about. Let's let's talk about

486
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: the roster's gonna look like in September when the games happen.

487
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: Who cares what ot is gonna look like next week.

488
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 1: But even at d tackle, you know, let's say Starlo Tula,

489
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Speaker 1: assuming he's back, and I know he hasn't been at

490
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: an Ota yet, but there's no reason at this point

491
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: to think he's not going to be there. He got him.

492
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 1: He got at Oliver and Vernon Butler and j Zimmer,

493
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: who are all you know, legit contributors at the inside

494
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 1: position last year. If you keep six ends, you're probably

495
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Speaker 1: not keep all four of those guys like you said

496
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: it'd be. It'd be a six and three situations. So

497
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: still you're putting a legit, solid talent out on the market.

498
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: But the one thing I'll say to you, know your

499
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 1: idea of keeping sixty ends be these're the best guys.

500
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: The Bills have a window. We all know about and

501
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: it's not over this year, but when Josh Allen signs

502
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 1: that new extension, which probably pushes more cap money on

503
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: the next year's cap, the ability to have extra players

504
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: on the roster will probably go down. So you feel

505
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 1: like this is this is maybe the last you know,

506
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: free and free wheeling year with a rookie quarterback contract.

507
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: If you ask these young guys, and remember Fin says

508
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 1: this is his first legit offseason, so even though he's

509
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: in year two, he's still kind of playing from behind

510
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: in terms of being a young guy in the team.

511
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: All these guys who came up as edges, and even

512
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: though Russo played some inside and asking them to play

513
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: more primarily inside, what are you getting out of that?

514
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Speaker 1: How are you taking advantage of this this guy whose

515
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: head is our he's spinning now you want him to

516
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: play out of position? You know, I think there's a

517
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: question about what that's the best way to use these

518
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: high level resources you just spent him these players. Yeah,

519
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 1: that's why people will say it's a good dilemma to have,

520
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: But it's a dilemma nonetheless, So it's gonna be this

521
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: will be I think the toughest decision making process for

522
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: this coaching staff to get down to fifty three. For sure.

523
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: Position battles are always interesting, and I know it's not

524
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: real football yet, but the early returns without pads On

525
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: have been very good for Dane Jackson through these first

526
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Speaker 1: two weeks. Looks like he's gonna be one of the

527
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: most ardent challengers to Levi Wallace's spot. Leslie Fraser mentioned

528
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Speaker 1: him when I asked him the question the other day,

529
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Speaker 1: you know, I asked him what the competitions like, and

530
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Speaker 1: Dane Jackson was the only other name he mentioned besides Levi.

531
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Speaker 1: Can you see anybody else factoring into that mix for

532
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: that CB two spot, not someone who's currently on the roster. No,

533
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Speaker 1: it would be if they want to go outside for

534
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,239
Speaker 1: a Steve Nelson or Richard Sherman or somebody like that.

535
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Speaker 1: I think it's Levi and Dane, and I've you know,

536
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 1: I think I've made it pretty clear, and I hope

537
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: I haven't. I'll do it again right now. I'm a

538
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: huge Dane Jackson fan. To be honest, Like you talk

539
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: about Dane challenging Levi, I think it's the other way around.

540
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: I think this is Dane's job to lose the coaches

541
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Speaker 1: may not say so. And I know Levi's the veteran

542
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 1: and has proven the ability. You know, he's not terrible,

543
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: that's for sure. He can play the position. But I

544
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: think what Dane offers in terms of upside. We're showing

545
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: the Cardinals game. I mean the one play he made

546
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: on DeAndre Hopkins on a third and goal at the

547
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: five yard lane in the end zone. That's a high level,

548
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: elite receiver and Dane Jackson just took him away. And

549
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: it wasn't the only time that happened. Last year. He

550
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: had the interception against the Jets. It's not just the

551
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: highlight players either. You watch him on film in those

552
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: two games, and that's all we really have to look

553
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: at with him. He would I think the Dolphins game too,

554
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: he was in the right position, you know, staying with receivers.

555
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: I was incredibly impressed. And I think Dane Jackson, I mean,

556
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a five to eight year starter. He's

557
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: gonna start this year and I'll be surprised. I think

558
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: this is one of the reasons why the Bills have

559
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: bothered to go out and grab anybody, because they know

560
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: they've got a guy in this seventh round pick from

561
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: last year who can handle the position sixteen weeks out

562
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: of the year. Is he gonna be Trey White? Probably not,

563
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: but he could he be a very respectable CB two.

564
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: I absolutely expect that to happen this year. Yeah, Steve

565
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: is always on me because he tells me I have

566
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: a bromance with Dan Jackson. So yeah, way that I

567
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: had that first brownie, that's mine. You can't have that.

568
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 1: That's what you can happen that I don't need. I

569
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: don't need a bromance with Dan Jackson. I'll just be

570
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: a fan of his. With that in mind. You saw

571
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: the reported cap space that the Bills created with Stefon Diggs,

572
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: and speculation has run rampant for anywhere from they're trying

573
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: to clear money for a Josh Allen extension too, They're

574
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: gonna add somebody on offense, They're gonna add somebody on defense.

575
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm inclined to think if they're going to add a player,

576
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: it's probably on the defensive side of the ball. At

577
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: this point. I know people are going gaga about Zach

578
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: Hurtz and this and that, but where what was your

579
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: first reaction when you saw the report of the cap

580
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: space being created in terms of what you think it meant. Well,

581
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: the first reaction was Urts simply because you know the

582
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: size of the the cap reduction would fit his contract

583
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: pretty easily. But the more you dig into it, the

584
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: amount of cap room the bill has already had, you know,

585
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: plus that really does not equal Arts. And remember now

586
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: Greg Rousseau is now a part of that cap you know,

587
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: somebody we have the factor in. So it's two point

588
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: seven eight million, whatever it is. Ertz and Rousseau, we're

589
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: not going to fit into that cap space plus what

590
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: the Bills already had. So if they're trading for ERTs,

591
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: there needs to be another move at some point. They

592
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: can't just do it with what they did with Digs.

593
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: So what I've settled on is that the Bills feel

594
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: like there is going to be another move for them

595
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: sometime in the near future. Could it be ERTs if

596
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: he's released from the Eagles, then maybe they go after

597
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: they follow that road. Could it be a corner. As

598
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: much as I like Dane Jackson, you know, if I'm

599
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: running a team, I could certainly see the argument for

600
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: let's bring a veteran in just in case we're wrong,

601
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: or you know, if we get a josh On deal

602
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: that we you know, Josh Allen's camp brings us some

603
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: contract that we feel like is good for us and

604
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: we want to you know, pull a trigger on, then

605
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: we have space for it. Bottom line, the Bills didn't

606
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: make this move with Diggs for no reason. You know,

607
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: some people talk about let's just create rollover space for

608
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,239
Speaker 1: next year. No, no no, no, you're hurting yourself doing that.

609
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: You can restructure Diggs next year and create more space

610
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: than making this move now. So I think the Bills

611
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: do have something up their sleeves, whether it's ready to

612
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: go on a specific move. I think if that was

613
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: the case, it's probably done by now. I think they're

614
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: looking at options and thinking, we have a B and C.

615
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: We want to walk down one of these roads. Let's

616
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,239
Speaker 1: make sure we have the space to do it, and

617
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: then depending on which one is most financially appealing or

618
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: ready first. At least we don't have to worry about

619
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: making the space. It's already there for Yeah, I'm kind

620
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: of inclined to think that they're still evaluating what they

621
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: have at some specific area on the team. They believe

622
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: it's enough, but they're not convinced yet, And I think

623
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: this kind of is a preemptive move to say, all right,

624
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: if we find out we miss the mark on somebody's

625
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: trajectory and they're not ascending as quickly as we thought,

626
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: whether it's Dane Jackson or maybe somebody else somewhere else

627
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: on the roster, fine will address it because here's A

628
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: B and C at this position, and here's option A,

629
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 1: B and C at that position, and now we have

630
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: the financial flexibility to address it and make an ad

631
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: to the roster. So yeah, but I agree, you're not

632
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: clear in that much cap space unless you have a

633
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: clear plan with a couple of options in mind. And

634
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: you know, Steve and I have talked about it on

635
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: the show. I mean there's some decent veteran cornerbacks floating

636
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: around out there. I mean, Bashaud Breland is still out there,

637
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: Stephen Nelson, as you mentioned, and you know, you still

638
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: got Richard Sherman, although he's probably gonna come in a

639
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: little bit higher price tag than I think the bills

640
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: might be willing to stomach. So let me ask you

641
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: that the thought there with you know, looking at a guy,

642
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: you know, my initial reaction to that is, are you

643
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Speaker 1: really getting anything? Out of an OTA session that I mean,

644
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Speaker 1: you're getting something, so it's not nothing, But are you

645
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: gonna learn something in ten weeks or thirteen days of

646
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: nonpadded practices that you didn't already think, you know when

647
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: we got to the end of the real football last December,

648
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: that will change your mind? I mean, because the risk

649
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: is let's say the Bills want to go after Stephen Nelson,

650
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: but let's just see how than Jackson looks. Yeah, well,

651
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: what if you know, what if the Jets who are

652
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: desperate for corners don't wait that long and you assign them.

653
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: Now you have cleared that cap room for nothing, you know,

654
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: because you're waiting to get what out of an Ota

655
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Speaker 1: so not Look, I see what you're saying with it,

656
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: and it makes some sense for sure, But that was

657
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: my reaction to it. And I wonder, you know how

658
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: logical approach that was. Yeah, And you know, maybe it's

659
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: just a check in kind of thing, like, hey, is

660
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: this you know, has have our evaluations that we made

661
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: at the end of last season after watching all the

662
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: tape from twenty twenty, do they still hold up? And

663
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: I know it's not padded football, it's not real football,

664
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: but do they still hold up. Is this guy still

665
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: on the same trajectory? Are we going to be good there? No? Well, okay,

666
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: maybe we do this or do we want to wait

667
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: till mandatory minicamp where it's a little closer to real

668
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: football even though the pads are still not on. I

669
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: might be cutting it too fine. I think. Also, we

670
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: have to take into account what we don't know, and

671
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: what we don't know is the conversations that presumably have

672
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: already been had with the likes of Steven Nelson. Steven

673
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: Nelson may have communicated to the Bills exactly what he's

674
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: looking for if they want to get a deal done

675
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: with him, and he's probably said the same thing to

676
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: the four or five other teams that are reportedly interested,

677
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: and nobody wants to pay it for whatever the demand

678
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: might be, so they say to themselves, all right, well,

679
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: if we clear this much more cap space, maybe we

680
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: can do that and something else. I don't know. I mean,

681
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: we don't know those conversations, so it's all just speculation,

682
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: and that's why we talk about this stuff in June.

683
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: We do have to step aside and take a break here.

684
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: But when Than and I come back, we're gonna jump

685
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,239
Speaker 1: into the obl Fan Friday mail Bag to answer some

686
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: of your questions that you submit to us each and

687
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: every Friday here on One Bills Live. We're back in

688
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: a second. Stay tuned. We'co back to one Bills Live.

689
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: Chris Brown along with Fed Browns from w r OCTV

690
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: in Rochester joining us here for the first hour of

691
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: the program on a Friday with Steve off for the

692
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: day and time to dip into the obl Fan Friday

693
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: mail bag. If you have a question for us, anything

694
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: under the sun, the Bills roster, the NFL post June

695
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: first cuts, salary cap, whatever it is, send it to us.

696
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: We'll do our best to answer it and sound intelligent

697
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: doing so. First one up comes from Nick and he says,

698
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: since Ed Oliver was a first round pick in twenty nineteen,

699
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: does that mean we'll have to pick up his fifty

700
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: year option after this coming season? And if so, do

701
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: you think he's not enough to earn it or does

702
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: he have to show more in order to stick around

703
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: after his rookie contract? Why don't you take a swing

704
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: at that one? Sad Well, First thing, this is year

705
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: number three, so the Bills have under contract for one

706
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: more year, So that question won't happen until not the

707
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two offseason, but the one after that. So

708
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: the Bills have two more years of looking before they

709
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: have to make that call right this second, you know,

710
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: I do want to see more. I mean, I think

711
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: Oliver took a little bit of a step back last year.

712
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: There were still some impact plays, but it wasn't as

713
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: consistent as it was as rookie year. And to me,

714
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: I think from a Bills fans point of view, and

715
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: this certainly could be the case. He's kind of on

716
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: the Deon Dawkins trajectory, which was really good standout rookie year,

717
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: kind of a sophomore slump, if you want to use

718
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: the alliteration. And then Dion you know, certainly took a

719
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: big step forward year three and has maintained that level

720
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: of play since. If Oliver follows the same same mode,

721
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a pretty good defensive tackle this year.

722
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna tell you it's not going to happen. Certainly,

723
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: all the all the tools are there, and we saw

724
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: enough flash last year, and it wasn't just flashes, it

725
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: was you know, multiple plays. But I do want to

726
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: see more before I say, you know, this is definitely

727
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: just a little bit more to say this is a

728
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: guy who I absolutely think is going to be a

729
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: legit long term, you know, good player for this team. Yeah.

730
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: I think it's it's the consistency. The week to week

731
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: consistency is what we haven't seen from him yet. He'll flash,

732
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: you know, in games here and there, and then the

733
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: next week you're like, where is where are those impact

734
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: plays we need from a top ten draft choice, and

735
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: they're just not there often enough. And you know, is

736
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: his size part of the issue there? I think to

737
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: a certain degree, yes, you have to have a formidable

738
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: one technique next to him to gobble up lineman so

739
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: he can be at his most effective. Because Ed in

740
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: a one on one situation is flat out dangerous. I

741
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: don't think anybody's going to debate that, but they're focusing

742
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: their attention on him because there isn't a one technique

743
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 1: to worry about. And if Starr is on the field,

744
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people are putting their

745
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 1: eggs in this basket, I'll do it too. I think

746
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: Starr will make a difference in how Ed plays because

747
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: he should in that scenario get more one on one matchups,

748
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: and if the young outside players and edge players come along,

749
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: well that'll only help him down the road in the

750
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: future too. But yeah, we've got to see we've got

751
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: to see the best of Ed Oliver on a more

752
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: consistent basis, and then I think you can start formulating

753
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: plans to consider a fifty year option or even an

754
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: extension beyond that. And speaking of that that, Steve and

755
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: I were having this conversation earlier this week, so I'm

756
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: curious to get your take on this. We thought about

757
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: some of the twenty nineteen draft class members you know

758
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: now going into their third year. I'm not saying any

759
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: of them are going to take the leap that Josh

760
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: took in his third year last season. But if Cody Ford,

761
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: and it might be hard for him coming off offseason surgery,

762
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: he's probably got a longer road than some of these

763
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: other guys. But if Devin Singletary can kind of come

764
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: into his own and break out, if Ed Oliver can

765
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: break out, if Dawson Knocks can have a really productive year,

766
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: I mean, those are three guys that play pretty prominent

767
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: roles on what is a stacked roster. If those guys

768
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: come through this year. With really good seasons, this team's

769
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: gonna be held to beat. Man, You're right, any of

770
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: those four guys. If you take any of those four

771
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: guys and just say one of them is a one

772
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: level below elite player this year, this team is in

773
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: a really really good position because any one of them

774
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: will take a dimension that we thought was maybe not

775
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: a strength or even a weakness last year, you know,

776
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: a pass rushing, run game, tight end, offensive line at

777
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: least interior consistency, and turn it into a big time strength.

778
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: And again, those are probably the maybe the four guys. Man,

779
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: if you start thinking about keys in this season, I mean,

780
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: these might be the guys. You know that one of

781
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: these guys, maybe more than one, has to break out

782
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 1: to take this team from AFC contender to maybe Super

783
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: Bowl favor And it's certainly possible. I mean, they all

784
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: have the ability, a little more down on Cody Ford,

785
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: I think than most, but I can certainly see the

786
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: possibility there, and you know Singletary. The problem I think

787
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: with all of them, you know, or at least with

788
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: Singletary and Knox, is that there's another guy or other

789
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: options at what they do who are either recently proven

790
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: to be a little bit better Zach Moss or just

791
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: with Knox. There's so many good receivers it's hard to

792
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 1: it's hard to really imagine a tight end ever breaking

793
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: out on a seasonal situation. You talk about a game

794
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: here or there. I think it makes a lot of sense.

795
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: But to have a big season, I mean, where are

796
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: the targets going to be for a tight end to

797
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: do that? Regardless one of those guys has a big year,

798
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: this team is gonna be really really good. Yeah, and

799
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: I'm I'm hopeful for Cody Ford, but I think the

800
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: writing is on the wall. This team is not waiting

801
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 1: for you. This is a this is a freight train

802
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: going downhill. And get your game together and come ready

803
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: to contribute. We're gonna plug somebody else in. And we

804
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: saw it at the very position that Cody Ford is

805
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: expected to play this year with Quentin Spain. Last year,

806
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he went from three year extension to starter

807
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: to bench to off the roster in five weeks. I

808
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: know he's gonna get a little bit of rope because

809
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: he's coming off of an offseason surgery, so he's gonna

810
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: be he's gonna have a slower return than most. My

811
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: hope for him is that they just leave him at guard,

812
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: because each of the last two years there's been this

813
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: guard tackle stuff and he's gone back and forth. I

814
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: think the best thing you can do for Cody Ford

815
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: right now is just give him a permanent home at guard,

816
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: whether it's starter, back up, whatever it is, based on

817
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: coming off of his surgery. Just leave him there and

818
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: see what you get out of him in terms of progress,

819
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: development and quality consistent play. But if it's not showing

820
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: signs of being right for the starting five, you got

821
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: a guy like far As Lamp who started sixteen game

822
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 1: played one hundred percent of the snaps for the Chargers

823
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 1: last year. I mean they're not gonna wait. No, I agree,

824
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: and I think I'll go even a step further and

825
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: say I don't wanted to see him at guard or tackle.

826
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: I want to see him at left guard or right guard,

827
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: so that he's playing next to the same two guys

828
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: ostensibly the entire time too, to where we have consistent

829
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: every week. It's the same situation, same communication, the same

830
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: look left or right, and to see what Cody Ford has.

831
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: But I don't know if the runnings on the wall

832
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: remember Brandon Bean last year talking about Cody Ford being

833
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: one of the five most talented offensive lineman on the team.

834
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: I thought that was a heck of a pronouncement for

835
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: a guy that A hasn't really played well or b

836
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: hasn't really played much. I've been on the field much

837
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: at all to say that he's one of the top

838
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: five when you know, I thought Mike Bucker had a

839
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: pretty solid finish to last year, and obviously the Bill

840
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: has just resigned John Fliciano gave him new money. You

841
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: just pointed out why not to look at that too seriously.

842
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: But regardless, you know, I think Ford you talk about

843
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: a leash, I think he's got a really long one

844
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: from what the GM said last year. And I'm not

845
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: a huge Forest Lamp fan either. I know he played

846
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: every snap. That Chargers line was awful. I remember when

847
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: they played the Bills, and I was watching that game back,

848
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, there are players all over this defense. Derwin

849
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: James isn't even on the field. You've got you know,

850
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 1: Boast as a pass rusher. You've got lots of skilled guys.

851
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: You've got a quarterback who you know might be a

852
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: phenomena as a rookie Austin Ekeler is the perfect running

853
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: back for twenty first century of football. But their line

854
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: is terrible. They can't block anybody well PF you know,

855
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: for what it's worth supported that. So to believe in

856
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Speaker 1: a Charger's offensive lineman almost anybody from last year, that's

857
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: not the guy I'm looking at. But regardless it was

858
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: not Ford or a Lamp, I'll run. I'll run with

859
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: Bucker and Fliciano and take my chances because those are

860
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: the two guys that did get me to the Ancy

861
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: Championship last year. Yeah, and I thought the problem with

862
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: the Chargers offensive line was a domino effect from the middle.

863
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: Phoenie just it. He was flat out not good enough.

864
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: And I felt like the Guards had to cover up

865
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: for a lot of those deficiencies and not just worry

866
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: about their own assignment, but try to cover up for

867
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: Poenie and how deficient he was at the center spot.

868
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: And you saw the Chargers address that in a giant way.

869
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: I mean they handed out gigantic money to Corey Linsley.

870
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: I think there was just a terrible domino effect from

871
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: the inside out there with that center position, and I

872
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: think it negatively impacted guys like Lamp and the other

873
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: guard on the other side whose names escaping me Right now,

874
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: let's go to OBL fan mail bag question too from Adriana.

875
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: I know we got a bunch of edge rushers this

876
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: offseason to improve the pass rush, but our run defense

877
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: has also struggled at times over the years, even when

878
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: Starr was playing. How is that supposed to improve this

879
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: season when we most mostly brought in only edge rushers.

880
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: Good question, Yeah, I think the fantastic question. I think

881
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: the answer is I like what most of the young

882
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: guys that Bills brought in can do against the run.

883
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: I thought a Japanessa was projected. I thought he was

884
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: gonna be a solid run defender. Didn't see a ton

885
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: of it last year, but I still think he can

886
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: do it. I think Boogie Basham can be a very

887
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: good run defender as well. Rousseau is a lot more

888
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: of a project in every single way someone at that size.

889
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: There are certainly ways he can defend the run, and

890
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: I thought he was at least discipline from what I

891
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: saw at Miami in twenty nineteen. But I think that

892
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: the guys the Bills grab even though they are edged players,

893
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: And you think of edge and rusher. Well. Edge run

894
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: defending is a part of the game too, and Jerry

895
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: Hughes has had an amazing growth in that area. Most

896
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: of the growth happened like five years ago, but when

897
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: he first came to Buffalo, this was a guy that

898
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: didn't play the run very well, and he quickly was

899
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: able to figure it out. And for my money, he

900
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: is one of the premier edge run defenders in the NFL.

901
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: So just because the Bills drafted an edge rusher doesn't

902
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: mean that those guys can't play against the run. And

903
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: I think at least Fins and Basham are for rookies,

904
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: are pluses in that area. And I know some of

905
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: our fellow reporters have already written about this, just that

906
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips looks to have a bigger spring in his step,

907
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: more similar to when he was playing prior to his

908
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: ACL knee injury. I think last year was just an

909
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: exercise and trying to get back up to where he was.

910
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: I don't know that anybody felt that he ever really

911
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: got there, and including himself. But now and I think

912
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: he's going to fall into that category. He's being one

913
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: of those guys that needed the full year to get

914
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: back to where he wanted to be. We'll know when

915
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: the pads go back on whether he can be a

916
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: factor on the interior, you know, behind Star and presumably

917
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: behind Ed. But that's just a wait and see. But

918
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: a very good question from Adriana because there are no

919
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: guarantees here that this run defense, despite all the influx

920
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: of talent, is going to be demonstrably better, at least

921
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: from a yard's allowed per game standpoint. We have to

922
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: take a break. But when that and I come back,

923
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: another question or two on the OBIL Fan Friday mail back,

924
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: Stay tuned here on One Bill's Live presented Body Colloid

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00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: to help its Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One

926
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: Bill's Live. As we're almost done here with the Brown

927
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: and Brown how Chris Brown Thad Brown with you stepping

928
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: in and helping us out in the absence of one

929
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Speaker 1: Stephen a tasker. As we've got the ob L Friday

930
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Speaker 1: fan mail bag open, and the next question comes from John.

931
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: He says, with how explosive the offense was last year

932
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: with the new additions and continuity, do you think it

933
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: will be better or roughly the same? And I still

934
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: chuckle at Sam and armgo bills, explosive, yes, new additions

935
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: and continuity. How do you think the blend goes that?

936
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: I want to see what happens up front. We talked

937
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: about Cody Ford coming back, and the line certainly wasn't

938
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: consistent last year. I don't. I don't know if there's

939
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: any one group that's more talented than another. But maybe

940
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: playing the same group over and over will help. I think,

941
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: really the answer that though is roughly the same, you know,

942
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if the look roughly the

943
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: same is still really awesome. Yeah, Like there are twenty

944
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: eight teams in the NFL that would sign up for

945
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: roughly the same in a a heartbeat. So it's not a

946
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: bad thing. But I don't think this offense is going

947
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: to I don't expect it to get a whole lot

948
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: better unless Josh Allen takes another big lead. And you know,

949
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: one thing to remember with Josh Allen, each of his

950
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: last two seasons, going from a year to a year,

951
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: he took a big lead. Now, I don't if there's

952
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: room for a big, big lead, law, but if he

953
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: you know, he talks about improving on and breaking rounds

954
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: a couple of things. If he can clean up a

955
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: few of those other items and takes another jump, another

956
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: move forward. You know, that's to me the easiest way

957
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: for this offense to become more explosive. By the way,

958
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: before you answered mail back question from miss person, is

959
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: it really Steven a't t Asker? Is that a of

960
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: the middle of No, we just mess around with him,

961
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: like Steven A Okay, so yeah, we're just messing. I

962
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: think his middle name is I think his middle name

963
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: is Mark. I think his middle name is Mark, so

964
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: he'd be Stephen M. Tasker, which doesn't sound nearly as good.

965
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: So we just do what we want on the show.

966
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I think that. Um, I think it's going

967
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: to be incrementally better, not demonstrably better. I like Sanders

968
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: in terms of how I think he can diversify the

969
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: passing game, and I think, I want to say, the

970
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: offensive line with the sports science department they have here,

971
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: stands a good chance of being healthier this year than

972
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: they were last year. I know it's all up to chance,

973
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: and you know, sports science probably goes out the window

974
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: to a certain degree because it's a collision sport. But

975
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: my god, I mean they couldn't get the starting five

976
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: that they wanted on the field for more than what

977
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: four or five snaps I think last year, because just

978
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: when Feliciano comes back to the lineup, Morse gets hurt

979
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 1: and then Morse is out, he comes back and forwards

980
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: out of the lineup for the rest of the year,

981
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: and so that middle three was never what they wanted

982
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: it to be at any point in time last year.

983
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: So if they can just get back to that, which

984
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: I think is a big reason why fad we saw

985
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: them get Williams back in the fold, get Feliciano resigned,

986
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: because they want to see just how good that five

987
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 1: can because they never really got to see it last year.

988
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: So you know, to your point with the line, if

989
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: they can just get that five back on the field

990
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 1: and healthy and starting week after week after week after week,

991
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 1: I think it can at the very least be incrementally better.

992
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: We got to remember, we're talking about a thirteen win

993
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: football team from last year, So if they go fourteen

994
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: and three this year, I guess that's incrementally better. So yeah,

995
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I about roughly the same, a little bit better.

996
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: I think it's somewhere in that range. Mike says or

997
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: asks how many wins do you think the Patriots will

998
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: have this coming season. I have a feeling it will

999
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: be six or fewer. Also, which is better Josh Allen

1000
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: last year or Cam Newton in his MVP season. Thanks

1001
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: and go Bills. That is a low wind total fad.

1002
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: I got to believe that if he thinks they're six

1003
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: or fewer wins, he's expecting Cam Newton to start at

1004
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: least half the games, and I don't know if that's

1005
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: happening at all. Well, to be the patrons of the

1006
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: team that are the biggest enigma, at least in the AFC,

1007
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: of not in the entire league. If you told me

1008
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: they would have a twelve and their record, I wouldn't

1009
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: know if be under the ws or the els like

1010
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: I see it either way, but I think six sixes

1011
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: is I mean, look, you're not giving Bill Belichick enough

1012
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: a credit for what he does. You're not taking into

1013
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: count the idea they're bringing back a lot of guys

1014
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: who opted out last year. I mean, I'm not as

1015
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: anywhere in year as excited or I think many people

1016
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: are kind of maybe looking down their nose a little

1017
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: bit at the amount of money the Pagris spending free

1018
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: agency this year, I would be in that boat that said.

1019
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: The guys they brought in are talented. Bill Belichick is

1020
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: still a Hall of Fame coach. He's going to figure

1021
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: out a way to make that work at least to

1022
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: a respectable level. But you know, the quarterback plays a

1023
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 1: big deal. I mean, Cam Newton was I mean outright

1024
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: terrible last year. I was stunned at how bad he was.

1025
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't just not being able to make throws. It

1026
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 1: was unwilling or unable to recognize, you know, good throws.

1027
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: There were two plays in the Bills game where I'm

1028
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: watching on film, I'm like, Cam, there's a guy wide

1029
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: opening the ensland. Why are you checking down? He did

1030
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: stuff like that all year long, last years. So if

1031
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't get better, or if mac Jones can't step

1032
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: in and be you know, a Justin Herbert or something

1033
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: close to that level rookie, then the Patre's gonna have

1034
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: a tough time win in the twelve games. But you know,

1035
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: I have a hard time thinking Bill Belichick would the

1036
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: amount of talent they have, maybe you know, disjoined as

1037
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: it might appear, is going to be a terrible team. Yeah,

1038
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: I see them as an eight and nine, nine and

1039
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: eight kind of football team somewhere right around five hundred,

1040
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: which you can't be anymore in a seventeen game season.

1041
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: But Cam, to me, is no longer starting caliber quarterback

1042
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: in this league. All you need to do is look

1043
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: at all the bounce passes he threw on simple like

1044
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: ten twelve yard out routes. He couldn't even throw that anymore.

1045
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: It was shocking. I was just as shocked as you were.

1046
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: I think Mac Jones his elite traits are between the years,

1047
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: nowhere else in his game, so that could help him

1048
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: in a Josh McDaniel's type offense. But I just don't

1049
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: see him putting it all together, even if he's on

1050
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: the field by early October, which I think is a

1051
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: very real possibility. We are very quickly at a time here, Thad,

1052
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: but I do appreciate you coming on and joining us

1053
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: here for the first hour the show. Good to talk

1054
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: to you and get your insight on the upcoming season

1055
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: and the roster as it currently stands. So thanks for

1056
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: doing it. We'll catch up with you down the line,

1057
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: my man, My pleasure, Chris, good scene. You could talk

1058
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 1: with you guys, as always been good. Questions from from mail. Yeah,

1059
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: there were some really good questions, some really good questions

1060
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: for sure. But thanks again, Ed, We appreciate it. We

1061
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: have to take a break here, but when we come

1062
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: back from ESPN dot com, their fantasy football and NFL

1063
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: writer might play. Got a lot of stuff on the

1064
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: table to talk to him about, including bills related items.

1065
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Speaker 1: He's next, you know, on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Collot of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker who has been all over the field. He was

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Speaker 1: kind of a dual role player for you. Stout Steve

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Speaker 1: a blimp. We're not even in the stradit here of normalcy.

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Speaker 1: Now we're number two here on a Friday, Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: here with you. Steve Tasker off for the day'll be

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Speaker 1: back next week and joining us on the line right now,

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Speaker 1: ESPN NFL analyst and fantasy football writer. You'll see him

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Speaker 1: on ESPN Sports Center, NFL Live, Fantasy Football Now, the

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Focus Football podcast. Suffice to say, he's covering a

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Speaker 1: lot of bases up there in Bristol. It is Mike

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Speaker 1: Clay joining us on the line right now. Mike, how

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Speaker 1: you're doing. Thanks for taking the time to spend some

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Speaker 1: time with us. Yeah, sure, happy to be here. I'm

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Speaker 1: doing pretty good, as you guys know, being in the Northeast.

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Speaker 1: We're getting some warmth now, right, so I'm like people

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Speaker 1: work outside a little bit on the patio. So after

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Speaker 1: another long cold winter, it's nice to get some warm

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Speaker 1: Good for you and doing it out on your patio.

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Speaker 1: You're doing in the virtual thing the best way possible.

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Speaker 1: Good on you, man. I saw your recent write up,

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Speaker 1: you know, ranking the NFL offseason position upgrades team by team.

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Speaker 1: You kind of comb through the league, and there's an

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Speaker 1: awful lot of AFC East teams on the list, with

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Speaker 1: the exception of the Bills, who, in their own right

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Speaker 1: thirteen win team already upgrades are going to be incremental

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Speaker 1: at best, so we get why they're not on there.

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Speaker 1: But a host of listings for all of Buffalo's three

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Speaker 1: division rivals, New England ranking the highest with their tight

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Speaker 1: end editions of John U. Smith and Hunter Henry. Question

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Speaker 1: for you, though, Mike, with that choice, how much do

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Speaker 1: you factor in what is still a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a jumbled quarterback situation going into the season. I think

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Speaker 1: we all have our suppositions as to who's going to

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Speaker 1: be the starter week one. But how much did you

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Speaker 1: factor that in when you made this choice with New

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Speaker 1: England's tight ends? Well, for this that it had nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with the quarterback, right, I mean this is

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Speaker 1: just about that roster spot for the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 1: There's no question. You look at a team last year,

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Speaker 1: their tight ends combined had eighteen catches. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: the one of the lowest productive tight end seasons we've

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Speaker 1: seen in the past decade in the NFL. So it

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Speaker 1: was just strictly that position. They spent a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: They bring in Johnny Smith, they bring in Hunter Henry.

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Speaker 1: That position is now one of the best in the

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Speaker 1: NFL if they're being one of the worst last season.

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Speaker 1: So it's that. But you know, if we're combining everything

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Speaker 1: and considering outlook for these teams and specifically the Patriots, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean quarterback is a huge factor here, you know,

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Speaker 1: not only you know, we have to we have to

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Speaker 1: ask ourselves how good is Cam Newton at this point

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Speaker 1: in his Curry's another year older obviously was you know,

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Speaker 1: started well, kind of fell off last season, and we

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Speaker 1: have to ask ourselves if he's going to play the

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Speaker 1: whole season, because if the Patriots are struggling, or Cam struggling,

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Speaker 1: or it gets injured, we may see a late first

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Speaker 1: round pick or mid first round pick in mac Jones

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Speaker 1: under center. And as is often the case, rookie quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: take a while to get going, and that could be

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Speaker 1: bad for the Patriots short term outlook. So let's just say,

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Speaker 1: even though the Patriots are number five on this list,

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Speaker 1: I still I'm picking the Bills to win the division.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots still have some work to do, especially as

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Speaker 1: you mentioned at the quarterback position. I saw that you

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Speaker 1: also had New England at sixteen with Van Noy, Henry Anderson,

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Speaker 1: Matthew jude On Davin. Gotcha. I can get behind this

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Speaker 1: one easily. Not that they were necessarily a train wreck

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Speaker 1: upfront defensively, but when you look at the names they're replacing,

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Speaker 1: I mean, at least you've got some recognizable ones now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I mean look that Bill Belichick was asked about

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Speaker 1: their struggles last season, and he said, they just say

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Speaker 1: that they had salary cap issues. You know, you know,

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Speaker 1: the year Tom Brady left, they also had some other

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Speaker 1: cap issues they couldn't spend. And this season, this offseason,

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Speaker 1: it was the opposite, and they were aggressive. They had

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Speaker 1: a lot of weak spots, and you could tell Belichick

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Speaker 1: in that front office was frustrated with losing. They went

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Speaker 1: out and they got aggressive and brought in a lot

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Speaker 1: of players. But I mean, think about how good the

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Speaker 1: Patriots defense was to just two years ago, that last

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Speaker 1: year with Brady, and then how much they really fell

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Speaker 1: off last season. I write about this in the article,

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Speaker 1: but they plummeted in force, humbles, in sacks and yard

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Speaker 1: is allowed in pass rush, win ray and tackles for

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Speaker 1: lots across the board. They fell from some of the

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Speaker 1: best in the NFL in those categories near the basement

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Speaker 1: in most of those categories. So it was an overhaul

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Speaker 1: that they needed, and certainly they're gonna be much better

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Speaker 1: upfront this season. You got Miami on the list twelfth

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Speaker 1: and fifteenth at the wide receiver position, in the linebacker position.

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Speaker 1: The wide receiver one. I totally get why that's an

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Speaker 1: upgrade for you. I mean, he is a legit, proven

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Speaker 1: deep threat and his will Fuller's vastly superior depressed and Williams.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting though, that both of those players have injury histories.

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Speaker 1: Fuller chiefly with the hamstring stuff, and when you're running

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Speaker 1: deep routes, you're always susceptible to that. But Fuller, it

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Speaker 1: seems to me, and I know you don't. You don't

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Speaker 1: do these evaluations based on what I'm bringing to the

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Speaker 1: table when I ask you this. But I think there's

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Speaker 1: always the question of how effective can Fuller be if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have a proven one opposite him like he

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Speaker 1: had for much of his early career with DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: You can make the argument that Devanta Parker is that,

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Speaker 1: but he's a very mercurial receiver in the number one role,

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Speaker 1: And so I really wonder if they're gonna get maximum

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Speaker 1: value out of Fuller because of what you get sometimes

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Speaker 1: and don't get at other times with DeVante Parker. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a fair question, for sure. I think

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Speaker 1: the durability is really the largest issue. Fuller will also

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Speaker 1: be suspended for Week one. Keep in mind he missed

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Speaker 1: the last five games last year as well. But you know,

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Speaker 1: he didn't have Hopkins last year, and he was having

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Speaker 1: a career year. He was healthy until that suspension, and

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Speaker 1: not only that, he was leading the NFL and yards

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Speaker 1: for target, so he was doing a pretty darn good

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Speaker 1: job in that offense. I think he's one of the

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Speaker 1: more skilled. Obviously, we know he's fast wide receivers in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, and I think he could lead this group

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Speaker 1: once he's back from the suspension. So I'm not too

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Speaker 1: worried about that. And I do think they have enough

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Speaker 1: weapons to take pressure off of him, right. It's not

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Speaker 1: a one man show, you know, Like for example, the

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Speaker 1: team he's coming from Houston, they have Brandon Cooks, a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver, and then a whole host of question marks

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Speaker 1: across the depth chart for that offense. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's the case for Miami. Not only do you have

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Speaker 1: DeVante Parker when he's out there, Mike Gisicky is essentially

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver and his pretty good weapon. Myles Gascomb

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Speaker 1: is pretty good at the backfield last season, and of

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Speaker 1: course they have the top ten pick at wide receiver

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Speaker 1: with Jalen Waddle who's going to be a big factor

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Speaker 1: as well. So you know that's part of it. The

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Speaker 1: other part is think about what they had last season,

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Speaker 1: and I just posted this on Twitter the other day.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the target distribution for Tuah last

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Speaker 1: year in his rookie season, we're talking about DeVante Parker

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Speaker 1: at the top and get sicky. Then it's Lynn Boden,

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Speaker 1: Jachem Grant, Durham, Smith, mac Hollands, Gaskin, Adam Schekeeen, Isaiah Ford.

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Speaker 1: These are all guys that were handling a bulk of

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Speaker 1: the targets. Now it's Fuller, Wattle, Parker, Gisicky, Gaskin. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that's your core. That's going to be a pretty

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Speaker 1: huge chunk of the targets. It is a much better

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Speaker 1: group of pass catchers, will say for Tua, no question

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Speaker 1: about it. Last one Jets at twenty one, the Carl

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Speaker 1: Lawson signing, I think that's I mean, that sticks out

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Speaker 1: like a sore thumb. This is something the Jets haven't

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Speaker 1: had in quite some time. So what do we think

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Speaker 1: the ceiling could be for Carl Lawson knowing he's lining

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Speaker 1: up next to a pretty dann good inkside guy in

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Speaker 1: Quinnon Williams. Yeah, so, um, you're always a little bit

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Speaker 1: suspective a guy that really breaks out in his contract year,

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Speaker 1: right he was he was okay, you know, he had

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Speaker 1: a he had a really good first year and then

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Speaker 1: he kind of he was injured and then he was

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Speaker 1: okay for a little while and then he kind of

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Speaker 1: he kind of broke out last season headed into the

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Speaker 1: big contract year, but he was effective and that's really

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Speaker 1: all we could, uh, you know, rely on. At this point.

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Speaker 1: He had a ton of hurries used top five in

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Speaker 1: that category among edge rushers, a lot of pass rush wins.

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Speaker 1: So we like that. And the key here really is,

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Speaker 1: you know, we've been banging the table for years like

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Speaker 1: what are the Jets doing at edge rusher? Why are

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Speaker 1: they not upgrading that position? They just refused off season

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Speaker 1: after off season after off season, and sure enough, five

1232
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Speaker 1: straight seasons now they've been sixteenth or worse in secks.

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Speaker 1: They just haven't really gotten to the quarterback. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously a head coaching change, a new defensive mind with

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Speaker 1: Robert Sala coming from San Francisco, and they go out

1236
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Speaker 1: and they bring him one of the top top edge

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Speaker 1: rushers on the free agent market. So Lawson's gonna play

1238
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Speaker 1: a lot they need him. If he's healthy, he's going

1239
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Speaker 1: to rack up a ton of in the box in

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Speaker 1: the box score this season. Moving along to some of

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Speaker 1: the fantasy outlooks that you did for the offense is

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Speaker 1: heading into twenty twenty one at least as far as

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Speaker 1: it pertains to the Bills. I mean, here where we

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Speaker 1: have Bills myopia, we know this was a team that

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Speaker 1: you know was either eleven or ten personnel like ninety

1246
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Speaker 1: five percent of the time last season, and we don't

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Speaker 1: expect that to change. I mean, there's a team's gonna

1248
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Speaker 1: be thrown at forty forty five times a game. But

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Speaker 1: the big change is with Emmanuel Sanders in John Brown

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Speaker 1: out at least as far as the top three options go.

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Speaker 1: I know, based on what you were writing, you're you're

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Speaker 1: high on Gabe Davis, and so am I because that

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Speaker 1: guy had three touchdowns that were either a dropped or

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Speaker 1: be called back on penalty. You could have had ten

1255
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Speaker 1: touchdowns last year as the third option or fourth option

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Speaker 1: in this passing game. So maybe just kind of weave

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Speaker 1: your way through what you pulled out of your analysis

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Speaker 1: of the Bills passing game heading into twenty twenty one

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Speaker 1: with the addition of Sanders, and then what's what's your

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Speaker 1: four see for Davis? Yeah, and you kind of hit

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Speaker 1: the nail on the head. I mean, this is an

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Speaker 1: offense that just built for wide receiver success, right, I

1263
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Speaker 1: mean last year, Davis, to your point was the fourth

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Speaker 1: receiver on the depth start and there were some injuries

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Speaker 1: obviously with Brown, but the guy was. The guy was

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Speaker 1: thirty fourth in the entire NFL and wide receiver snaps.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's huge for a number of four receiver.

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Speaker 1: Think about that. There's there's there's thirty two number ones.

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Speaker 1: He was thirty fourth in that category, fifth among rookies. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: he was effective in that role last season. So uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're, like you said, they're always gonna have three,

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Speaker 1: occasionally four wide receivers on the field. Even if Sanders

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Speaker 1: is rotated in as the three, you're still going to

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Speaker 1: see Davis playing a ton of snaps. And honestly, if

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Speaker 1: he is a good camp and go to a couple

1276
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: preseason games, maybe he plays ahead of Sanders. In fact,

1277
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: that one not surprised me at all. If he was

1278
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Speaker 1: added Sanders, who's now what entering is I think it's

1279
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: aged thirty four seasons. So Sanders at this point to

1280
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: scare kind of built for a situational role. You still

1281
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: hope easily it should be the every down slock eye.

1282
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: And again they're always in three wide receiver sets, so

1283
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: he'll be out there every play. And obviously Stefine Dig,

1284
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: so I expect another step forward for Davis. Maybe his

1285
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: ceilings capped a little bit by having Digs there and

1286
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: all the targets he stakes up easily as well a

1287
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Speaker 1: little bit Sanders, But at the end of the day,

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01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: it looks like a hit as a mid round pick

1289
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: for Buffalo. We know the guy's going to play a lot.

1290
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Speaker 1: And then probably the number one thing I wanted to

1291
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: talk to you about was you know, your breakdown of

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01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: the strength of schedule league wide. And I couldn't help

1293
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: but notice this as it pertains to the AFC East clubs.

1294
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: Now it was expected they were going to rank high

1295
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,959
Speaker 1: in strength of schedule. I know you dig a little

1296
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Speaker 1: bit deeper than just going on last year's records obviously,

1297
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: which is the league usually sends out in a press

1298
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: release every year in terms of strength of schedule, but

1299
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: knowing they're playing the AFC South and the NFC South,

1300
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: and both of those divisions have had some teams fall

1301
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: off here in this last year. In New Orleans with

1302
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: the retirement and Drew Brees. I think Tennessee, with the

1303
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: overhaul of their roster, may slide back a little bit

1304
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: this year and Jacksonville's in full rebuild mode. Atlanta, you

1305
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna get with new head coach

1306
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith. So it looks favorable for all the teams.

1307
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: But the Bills they're opening month is very favorable in terms.

1308
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: I mean Pittsburgh, I still don't think their offensive line

1309
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: is going to be able to help Ben out the

1310
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: way it had in recent years. There it's a patchwork

1311
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: group at best. Miami's got a lot of new pieces

1312
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: on offense and defense. I can't see them humming along

1313
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: in Week two and then Washington and Houston. I mean

1314
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,919
Speaker 1: that is Taylor made for a four and oh start

1315
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: for the Bills. It would see him. I don't know

1316
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: if you feel differently, I agree with you. I'm down

1317
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: a little bit on the Steelers or defense still pretty good,

1318
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: but we saw the offense kind of fall back to

1319
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: earth late last season. I'm nervous for them, for sure.

1320
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm lower than most on the Dolphins. You know, they

1321
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: just have a lot of young players that really need

1322
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: to make a leap in order for them to get

1323
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: to the next level. I know they won ten games

1324
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: last season, but a lot of that was based on

1325
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: the fact that they led the NFL and forced turnovers

1326
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: on defense, and we haven't had a repeat team in

1327
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: that department in a long time. Most of them fall

1328
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: off near league average, so that's hard. That's gonna be

1329
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: hard to sustain. They really need a lot of them

1330
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: youngsters to get better for this team to make a leap,

1331
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: and obviously a huge question mark quarterback. So I'm with you.

1332
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm lower on the lawer on the Dolphins here. I

1333
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: do like Washington. I think they're an underrated team actually,

1334
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: so that could that could be a tricky game. But

1335
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: that game is in Buffalo, which helps their cause. Obviously

1336
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: Houston should be a layup with the state of their roster.

1337
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: It does. You know, they have a couple tough games

1338
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: after that, but even you know Jacksonville and obviously they

1339
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: have the Jets twice, who we don't expect to be

1340
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: too good yet, especially with the rookie quarterback. The Coults

1341
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: are on the schedule. That's a team that I'm not

1342
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: not as high on a most as well. I was

1343
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: kind of disappointed with what they did the offseason at

1344
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: the Saints. Right normally that would be a really tough game,

1345
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: probably a projected loss by the sports book or you know,

1346
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: if you're if you're gambling, you'd probably give some points

1347
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: to the Saints. With Drew Brees, he's gone. That team

1348
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: lost some other talent on that roster as well, and

1349
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: certainly New England will see you know, I think, you know,

1350
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: they played them twice. Obviously, I think that the Patriots

1351
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: will be better, but I still think on paper, the

1352
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: Bills are still a better team. Atlanta's on there as well,

1353
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: So Caroline, you know, they're a lot of winnable games

1354
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: for the Bills, and that's why they check in as

1355
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: one of the easiest schedules in the NFL this season,

1356
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: and then flipping it over to Miami schedule themselves. I mean, Mike,

1357
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: those first five weeks are brutal for them. I mean

1358
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: at New England, then the Bills at Las Vegas, which

1359
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: it could be a winnable game, but you know that

1360
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: team's gonna be ticked off from getting knocked out of

1361
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: the playoff contention last year with the Fitzpatrick rescue of

1362
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: the game late in the season last year. Then Indie

1363
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: and at Tampa Bay, I mean, man alive. That is ugly. Yeah,

1364
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: that's a very tough start to the season, But overall

1365
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: I do have them with a fairly easy schedule. Part

1366
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: of that is playing the Jets twice and the fact

1367
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: that the state of the division aside of Buffalo is

1368
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: not great in my opinion. But yeah, you're right, going

1369
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: to Miami, going even traveling all the way across the

1370
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 1: country to Las Vegas. That's always tough. We know that's

1371
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: hard on teams. Not maybe he's not as hard as

1372
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: it was a decade plus ago, but certainly still tough. So,

1373
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. There's an opportunity here for the

1374
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: Bills to come out strong and get an early lead,

1375
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: early lead, excuse me, in that division. Yeah, and then

1376
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: you mentioned Indie and you said you weren't as high

1377
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: on them, you didn't like what they did in the

1378
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: off season. Is this mostly Carson Wentz related or are

1379
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: there other aspects to what you saw that team do?

1380
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: Because I think we can agree that. You know, Ballard

1381
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: and Reich have done a good job of constructing that

1382
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: roster for the most part. But what was it that

1383
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: turns you turned you off a little bit from this offseason? Yeah?

1384
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: I mean, look, they went into the offseason, I believe

1385
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: it was second in cap space, right, So they had

1386
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,439
Speaker 1: a ton of room to spend there, and they didn't

1387
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: really do it right. I thought maybe they would get

1388
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: aggressive and go after one of the top wide receivers

1389
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: like a Dolla Day or you know, they couldn't get

1390
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: their hands on Alan Robinson obviously, but something along those lines.

1391
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: And what they did instead was kind of just bring

1392
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: back what they had. But Buffalo did that. But I

1393
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: think Buffalo was already a very good team on paper,

1394
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: a better team on paper, whereas the Colts I think

1395
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: have some holes, you know, including some uncertainty at the

1396
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver position. They're gonna rely on some injury plagued

1397
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: young players there. Defensive side of the ball, they spent

1398
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: a first round pick on an edge rush or fine,

1399
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: but that's about all they have there. They need a

1400
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: lot of work. Safety is a question mark for them

1401
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: as well. And of course the big, you know, elephant

1402
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: in the room as quarterback. To your point, I mean,

1403
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: we just don't know which Carson Wentz we're going to get.

1404
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 1: He was terrific back in twenty seventeen. You know, it's

1405
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: well documented. He had a perfect storm around him, right,

1406
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: good play calling. The offensive line was the best in

1407
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: the NFL and healthy the team around him. There's a

1408
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: couple injuries here there, but for the most part, the

1409
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 1: import players were there on the field for him and

1410
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: it was just a stacked team even going under the

1411
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: end of the season. I had them as a top

1412
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 1: five team on paper that year. It was not a

1413
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 1: popular opinion, but you could see the roster talent around

1414
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: him that season and everything went well until his injury,

1415
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:18,919
Speaker 1: and it's just been a progressive decline and since that point.

1416
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: Last season was his low. He really struggled to the

1417
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: question becomes which Carson Wentz do we get this season?

1418
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: Is it the one from a couple of years ago

1419
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: that's an above average player, maybe an MVP candidate, or

1420
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: is it a player that was one of the worst

1421
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL last season. I'm hedging right, I

1422
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: have maybe a slight below average starting quarterback situation and

1423
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: that's obviously going to knock the Colts outlook a little bit. Yeah,

1424
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: and if Frank Wright can't fix him, I don't know

1425
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: if anybody can, because that's the last guy that was

1426
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: with him when he was playing at an MVP level

1427
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: in Philly. So if that guy can't get him right,

1428
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 1: it might be. It might be lights out for him.

1429
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: His career might be a whole lot shorter as a

1430
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: starter than we anticipate. Talking with ESPN, NFL analyst and

1431
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 1: fantasy football writer Mike Clay and Mike your other piece

1432
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: where you were projecting top NFL rookie leaders in various

1433
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 1: offensive categories, the rushing yards, one kind of caught my eye. Obviously,

1434
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: there were a host of running backs, you know, over

1435
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: the first two days that were taking off the board.

1436
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,799
Speaker 1: There Najie Harris, you know, looks like a classic type

1437
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh back. My concern for him, and I know I

1438
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: alluded to this earlier. I don't know how he has

1439
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: a classic Pittsburgh offensive line working in front of him.

1440
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: I know they're gonna need a competent running game to

1441
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: help Bend this year be at his most effective, But

1442
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just really don't have a lot

1443
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: of faith in what they've got up front. And granted,

1444
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: I understand they didn't have the money to spend, you know,

1445
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: in free agency, so I get it, but I don't

1446
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: know how Mike Tomlin's gonna make this work. Look, you're

1447
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: correct to be worried about the offensive line in fact,

1448
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 1: I did something about that a few weeks ago about that.

1449
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: You know, you can make the case if you're sitting

1450
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: there and you're looking at thirty two projected starting offensive lines,

1451
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: you can make the case that the Steelers have the

1452
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 1: shakiest one right now. I mean, it's a it's not

1453
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 1: a bold take by any means to say something like that.

1454
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: This is not the same group that they hadn't placed

1455
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: last year or the year before. You know, they have

1456
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: some problems there and need some young players to really

1457
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: take a step forward this season. So I'm with you.

1458
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: That is a gigantic concern for me. However, volume is

1459
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: king when it comes to racking up stats, and he

1460
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 1: may average three point six or seven yards per carry,

1461
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: but you know, if he has two hundred and eighty carries,

1462
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: it's not gonna matter, right, So Harris is going to

1463
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: be on the field. You know, his top competition is

1464
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: Benny Snell and Anthony McFarlane, Jilen Samuels, who's kind of

1465
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: an each back type. So it's gonna be the Harris show.

1466
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: The guy is humongous. He was terrific after contacting college.

1467
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: He checks to the boxes you need for a guy

1468
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 1: to rack up a ton of stats, and honestly, I

1469
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,759
Speaker 1: have him a little south of one thousand yards anyway.

1470
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: You know, if he gets to a und and eighty carries,

1471
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: he probably gets over that number. So I think it's

1472
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: just as simple as yes, the situation may not be great,

1473
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 1: but the volume will be there. And speaking of volume,

1474
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 1: you have justin Fields on their fifth for rushing yards

1475
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: at four hundred and sixty three. Should that be a

1476
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: number that has people concerned that he's going to be

1477
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: pulling it down and running maybe too much? Or is

1478
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 1: that a number that you find is pretty typical for

1479
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: first year quarterbacks that have the mobility that he does.

1480
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 1: What are your what does your research tell you? I

1481
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 1: don't think the Ravens are concerned with Jackson running it right,

1482
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,759
Speaker 1: you know. I don't think the Bills are really worked.

1483
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 1: I don't think the Bills are worried about Alan running it,

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01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, and obviously he's done big things with his

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01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: arm too, but that's kind of the thing with Fields, right.

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01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: What we saw at Ohio State was a guy that

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01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 1: was super efficient, super effective, put up huge numbers through

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01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: the air, and also added ridiculous numbers with his legs.

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01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: So I think he could do it all. I mean,

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01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 1: this could be a guy that comes out there and

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01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: can produce, you know, at a very much like Josh Allen.

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01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 1: That's probably his ceiling, maybe more so with the rush,

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01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: maybe a little less passing, a little bit more rushing.

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01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be concerned about that at all. In fact,

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01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 1: you know, I Field stepping in about I believe it's

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01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: week three or four, which aligns with what we've seen

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01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 1: over the past decade with first round quarterbacks. You know,

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01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 1: we can the coaches could sit there all day and

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01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 1: say it's gonna be you know, we're gonna sit him

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01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: this season. He's gonna learn maybe mid seat. They're gonna

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01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: play early in the first month. It's almost always the

1502
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: first month for these first round quarterbacks, so I think

1503
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: Fields will be in there early. I haven't throwing from

1504
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 1: about thirty two hundred yards, and obviously you just mentioned

1505
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 1: the rushing yardage. So I think Bill's Bears fans excuse me,

1506
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: would be very pleased if these are his numbers in

1507
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: his rookie season. Yeah, so would Matt Naggie, who's trying

1508
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: to hold on to his job. Yeah, no question about it. Listen, Mike,

1509
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate you breaking down all these numbers and adding

1510
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 1: some insight to some of your recent pieces on ESPN

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01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: dot com. We appreciate it. You got it anytime, all right.

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Speaker 1: That's Mike Clay, ESPN's NFL writer and fantasy football analyst.

1513
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: He's a number crunch you're through and through, does a

1514
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: good job, so check out his work whether you play

1515
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: fantasy football or you're interested in getting an idea on

1516
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 1: what you can hope for either some of your favorite

1517
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: players in the league, some of your players on your

1518
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: dynasty team, or just some bills and what you know,

1519
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 1: the numbers and the research say they are in line

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01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 1: to put up here in twenty one. Want to get

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01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: back to the fan Friday mail bag questions, which we'll

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01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: do in a little bit, because when we come back,

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01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: we are going to bring you some comments and some

1524
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: interesting ones at that from the Bill's tight end Dawson Knox.

1525
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: You address the media yesterday. We didn't get a chance

1526
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: to get some of those comments on the air on

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01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: Thursday show. We're gonna do that here next when we

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01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: return on One Bill's Live presented by a Collada Health,

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01:12:48,000 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to one Bill's Live.

1530
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: Chris Brown here with you, Steve task off today. He'll

1531
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: be back next week and motoring through a Friday with you.

1532
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: We'll get to the Obel Fan Friday mailbag questions in

1533
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: just a little bit, but we wanted to bring to

1534
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 1: you some interesting comments from Bill's tight end Dawson Knox.

1535
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: He addressed the media yesterday afternoon after practice, and we

1536
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to turn that sound around and

1537
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 1: get it on the show. We were jam packed with

1538
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,640
Speaker 1: guests and stuff. So wanted to bring you some of

1539
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: his more interesting comments today because he talked about a

1540
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: whole host of issues, including areas of his game that

1541
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: he's working on, some different methods by which he's trying

1542
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 1: to accomplish that. Time spent out West with Josh Allen

1543
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 1: during phase one of the offseason program, which was all

1544
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 1: done virtually via zoom on computer screens, just like last year,

1545
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: but the difference this year for him was he was

1546
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,759
Speaker 1: in California, and we'll get into that in just a second.

1547
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 1: So here is Dawson first talking about how he was

1548
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: not content with his game last season and what he

1549
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 1: did to improve it through the course of this offseason.

1550
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: I want to get to the point where I am

1551
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: that weapon for our team, and Travis is the best

1552
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 1: in the league right now what he does. So I

1553
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: talked with him something after the game and we're playing

1554
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: on getting together the tight end you thing, which I'm

1555
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 1: excited for. I've got his number on my phone. But

1556
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 1: it's just it just comes from watching film and getting

1557
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 1: on the field and starting to, you know, feel out

1558
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,799
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that he can see pretty quickly.

1559
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's really not just running the route and

1560
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 1: being in the right spot. It's kind of how well

1561
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: can you adjust on the fly, how well can you

1562
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 1: read coverages when the ball snap, because defenses are so

1563
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 1: good at disguising coverages, Safeties are moving around, linebackers are

1564
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, showing blitz and then they'll drop out. So

1565
01:14:58,160 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: it's just starting to be able to kind of catch

1566
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: on some of those things which I felt like I

1567
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 1: was able to do more and more as the year

1568
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: went on last year that I'm kind of excited to

1569
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 1: keep building on and I definitely feel confident that I'll

1570
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:13,600
Speaker 1: be able to do that this year. And I know

1571
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 1: that I want to just keep stacking those good days

1572
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: on good days. So it's good to hear that he

1573
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: knows consistency is what he has to add to his

1574
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: game now, where he's not just flashing for maybe five

1575
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 1: catches and a touchdown one week and then the next

1576
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 1: week he's not really much of a factor. And I

1577
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: understand that he is not very often option one or

1578
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 1: two and sometimes even three in the scope of this

1579
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 1: passing game and the way the progressions work, and understandably

1580
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: so with guys like Digs and Beasley on the roster,

1581
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 1: I am encouraged to hear that he's taking it upon

1582
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: himself to tap into some of the best tight ends

1583
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 1: in the league. The Travis he's referencing is Travis Kelsey.

1584
01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 1: He talked to him after the AFC Championship game and

1585
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: presumably after the regular season game as well, to kind

1586
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 1: of pick his brain on some of the nuances of

1587
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 1: the game, because those are nuances that you really don't

1588
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: master at tight end or any other position for that matter,

1589
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: until you've spent a great deal of time on the

1590
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 1: field in a regular season setting and playoffs for that matter,

1591
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: where you really get to feel out defensive coverages what

1592
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 1: they're disguising. You can identify it that much quicker. How

1593
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 1: you adjust how you adjust your route to a degree

1594
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,520
Speaker 1: where it's safe enough, where you're not throwing your quarterback

1595
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: off and leading to a pick because he's expecting you

1596
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: to break this way instead of that, and you improvised

1597
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: and screwed him up. So it's all those little intricacies

1598
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: that Dawson Knox is trying to hone in on and

1599
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 1: master as he goes into his third NFL season here

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01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: with the Bills Now. Dawson also talked about improving his

1601
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: catch rate. We know that drops were a problem for

1602
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 1: him his rookie season. They seem to be less of

1603
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: an issue last season, although I think his drop rate

1604
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: wasn't that different from year two to that of year one,

1605
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 1: which may come as a surprise. So he talked about

1606
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: yesterday working in the off season with a hand eye

1607
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: trainer in California. Here are some of the details on that.

1608
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: My number one focus. You know, I don't want to

1609
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: be dropping touchdowns and I know no one wants to

1610
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 1: see that, but yeah, so I actually did a bunch

1611
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 1: of stuff in California with this I don't want to

1612
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 1: even know exactly what you would call him, but he's

1613
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 1: like a hand eye trainer. He works with tons of

1614
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: guys across the NFL, NHL, MLB, and it's just it's

1615
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 1: crazy the different types of tools he has, whether it's

1616
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: catching stuff from machine shooting pingbong balls at you, or

1617
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: looking at a screen and touching stuff and doing ie

1618
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 1: movement assessments. It's it was really cool to learn some

1619
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 1: of the stuff that he had. And I was with

1620
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 1: him every day for about six weeks or so, and

1621
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 1: he actually shipped me a bunch of stuff. I've got

1622
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 1: this it's called robo pong machine where it shoots out

1623
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: pinballs with different curves at you and you just work

1624
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 1: on catching him. So that's definitely been a big emphasis

1625
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 1: for me. So I feel like he was able to

1626
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: really help with that. So if you're hoping for a

1627
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 1: big season from Dawson Knox here in twenty twenty one,

1628
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,799
Speaker 1: you have to feel pretty good about the extra effort

1629
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 1: he is making to master the finer points of his

1630
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 1: game and some of the most basic parts of his game,

1631
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 1: which is catching the ball on a consistent basis. I've

1632
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 1: seen Coach Boris, the tight ends coach for the Bills,

1633
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,600
Speaker 1: work with the tight ends extensively. With hand eye coordination.

1634
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 1: He often uses tennis balls out at practice where he'll

1635
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 1: have two or three going at once and he'll throw

1636
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: him and they've got to toss him back to him,

1637
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 1: and he's going rapid fire. It's almost it almost looks

1638
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 1: like two guys juggling a bunch of balls with how

1639
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 1: fast he chucks him at him. Sometimes he'll stand behind

1640
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: the player and have the player face a wall, and

1641
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: so he'll stand behind that guy and he'll whip tennis

1642
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: balls at the wall. Obviously, with the player's back turn

1643
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 1: to coach bors, he doesn't see when they're being thrown

1644
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: or where they're being thrown off the wall. So you're

1645
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: picking the ball up late, and then it's coming off

1646
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: the wall and you got to get it and they're

1647
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 1: only like six to eight feet from the wall, So

1648
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 1: picking it up that late and getting it off the

1649
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 1: wall really gets you in tune with reacting quickly to

1650
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,759
Speaker 1: where that ball is. It sounds like this hand eye

1651
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: trainer does things that are an extension off of that.

1652
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 1: But man, if he's got a machine, I can shoot

1653
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 1: ping pong balls at a curve that's pretty crazy. So

1654
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 1: it's nice to hear that he spent that much time

1655
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:01,560
Speaker 1: trying to master the finer points of hand eye coordination,

1656
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 1: and the other interesting thing that he mentioned in the interview.

1657
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: He said that what he also learned from this hand

1658
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 1: eye trainer is how much your eyes are muscles in

1659
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 1: and of themselves, and how just like you can do

1660
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: weight training to build your muscle mass or increase your

1661
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 1: lean muscle, you can also train your eyes, which are muscles,

1662
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 1: in much the same way with some of these exercises

1663
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 1: that this guy was showing him out in California, and

1664
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: then to know that he sent him much of the

1665
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: same equipment to his home so he can do him

1666
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 1: at home in Tennessee is encouraging to know that that

1667
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 1: training is only going to continue. And will we know

1668
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 1: how well it works. We won't until we see him

1669
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: on the field either a training camp, in the preseason

1670
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 1: and in the regular season. But it certainly sounds like

1671
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 1: he's ultra committed to making himself better in that area.

1672
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: Dawson also talked about the impact of losing Lee Smith,

1673
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: and for those of you that you know maybe he

1674
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 1: saw Lee Smith only as a blocking tight end an

1675
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: occasional red zone threat, you miss the main reason why

1676
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: Lee Smith was here. He was here to be a

1677
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 1: leader in the tight end room. And when you hear

1678
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:21,640
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox address the loss of Lee Smith, who's now

1679
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 1: in Atlanta after the trade, you get a better sense

1680
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: of the leadership value that he brought not only to

1681
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: the tight end room, but to the roster as a whole.

1682
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,679
Speaker 1: Here's Dawson Knox on losing veteran tight end Lee Smith

1683
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 1: this offseason. I mean, he was like a big brother,

1684
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: you know, from the second I got in there, he

1685
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 1: took me under his leg kind of showed me how

1686
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 1: to handle myself in the locker room, how to you know,

1687
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: talk to coaches the right way, how to be in

1688
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: my playbook, how to handle practice and injuries the right way.

1689
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 1: I mean, he was crucial for me in my development,

1690
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 1: I think. And obviously Atlanta is getting a great leader

1691
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 1: and a great player, arguably the great blocking tight end

1692
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 1: never play. But he's definitely missed, especially from the leadership

1693
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 1: in the locker room standpoint. I mean, he was, you know,

1694
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,679
Speaker 1: kind of that intermediary between the players and the coaches.

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01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: He always had our backs and he was able to

1696
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 1: talk to the coaches on how, you know, we want

1697
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 1: to structure things and how the coaches want to structure things,

1698
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: and he was able to, you know, always kind of

1699
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 1: get us to where we were, you know, agreeing and

1700
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 1: on good terms. But he'll always be like a big brother.

1701
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 1: He lives in Knoxville, which is just a few hours

1702
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 1: from Nashville. I'm playing on seeing them whenever we're done

1703
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: with OTAs, so I know, I know they're coming up

1704
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 1: to Buffalo to play. So I'm gonna try to fight

1705
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 1: John for that jersey swap, but I don't know how

1706
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 1: that'll go, but it'll be fun to see him and

1707
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 1: his family. So Dawson mentioned a few things there. First,

1708
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 1: he intends to go meet up with Lee somewhere after

1709
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 1: OTAs you're done, to just kind of catch up. Both

1710
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 1: of those guys are Tennessee natives, and they don't live

1711
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 1: too far from me each other, so they're gonna probably

1712
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,719
Speaker 1: set up a meeting time. The other thing he mentioned

1713
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 1: that you heard there was how valuable Lee was as

1714
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 1: an intermediary between the players and the coaches. Lee Smith

1715
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 1: was part of Coach McDermott's leadership council. You appoints a

1716
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 1: handful of players on the ronster to serve as a

1717
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 1: leadership council, and he'll check in with them. I know

1718
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: during the season it's usually about once a week to

1719
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:26,679
Speaker 1: get the vibe in the locker room. How are players feeling, like,

1720
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 1: what are their bodies like in week eleven? Like, are

1721
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:34,759
Speaker 1: they hanging? Are they like really spent? All right, maybe

1722
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 1: we'll back off on the reps in practice this week,

1723
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 1: or we'll take the pads off completely. We won't even

1724
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: hit on Thursdays because the guys need to heal up

1725
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: to be more effective on Sunday. Lee Smith was one

1726
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: of those guys that was communicating those kinds of messages

1727
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 1: from the players to the coaches, and the coaches very

1728
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:58,919
Speaker 1: often would listen. They would take that as valuable feedback

1729
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 1: and adjust either their practice schedule or their regiment accordingly.

1730
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: And it made a difference because it's one of the

1731
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 1: reasons I believe the sports science department probably the biggest reason,

1732
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,440
Speaker 1: along with the athletic training staff. But the other component

1733
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: as to why this Bill's team has been able to

1734
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 1: stay as healthy as they have each of the last

1735
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 1: two seasons with one of the lowest injury rates in

1736
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 1: the league is because of that communication between players and

1737
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 1: coaches where they can come to them and say, look,

1738
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 1: We're ready to lay it on the line if you

1739
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 1: need us to in practice this week. But guys are

1740
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:35,799
Speaker 1: hanging like we need a blow, we need a break.

1741
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: So if there's a way to chop out a segment

1742
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:43,799
Speaker 1: of practice, even just ten reps, it'll make a difference

1743
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 1: and we'll be that much fresher on Sunday. And the

1744
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: coaching staff adjusts to what the players feel they can

1745
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 1: and cannot handle on a given week, especially if you

1746
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 1: have a game that goes to overtime or maybe it's

1747
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 1: a particularly physical game, they'll make adjustments. And Lee Smith

1748
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 1: was p part of that. That's not to say they

1749
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: don't have guys who can fill in those gaps and

1750
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 1: do it for this team, but they're certainly they have

1751
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 1: a good leadership counsel, but Lee Smith was an important

1752
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 1: part of it. Now you also heard Dawson reference how

1753
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,719
Speaker 1: he's going to be fighting for the Lee Smith jersey

1754
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 1: swap with John Feliciano, who is really tight with Lee

1755
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: Smith because they played together with the Raiders and became

1756
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 1: thickest thieves out there before they both landed here in Buffalo.

1757
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 1: And it started a little bit of a Twitter conversation,

1758
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 1: shall we say so Mongo, as his teammates call him.

1759
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 1: Got wind of Dawson trying to get DIBs on a

1760
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 1: Lee Smith jersey swap when they played the Falcons this year,

1761
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 1: and John tweets out to Dawson and says, Dawson, you

1762
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 1: have a promising career ahead of you. Don't make me

1763
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:51,680
Speaker 1: do something we'll both regret, which means like wrestle him

1764
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 1: into submission, and so Dawson wisely responds, yes, sir, I'm

1765
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 1: sorry father. So they're having fun with that. So we'll

1766
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 1: have to see late in the season which guy ultimately

1767
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 1: gets Lee Smith's jersey. My money is on Feliciano at

1768
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 1: this point. One final comment here from Dawson Knox on

1769
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 1: attending tight End University. You heard him reference it. It's

1770
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 1: basically a gathering of the tight ends across the league.

1771
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, George Kittle, Evan Ingram is former teammate from

1772
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:24,679
Speaker 1: Ole Miss. They all get together and they're actually doing

1773
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 1: it in Nashville, which is where Dawson Knox is from.

1774
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 1: So it's a huge opportunity for him. He's excited to

1775
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 1: take part, super excited. I know George pretty well. I've

1776
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 1: met Travis a couple of times and Greg too, but

1777
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:41,919
Speaker 1: super excited to get with those guys. It's actually in Nashville.

1778
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: It's literally, I think the hotel we're saying that's probably

1779
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 1: a five minute drive from where I stay. So it'll

1780
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: be fine to kind of be in my own stopping

1781
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 1: stomping grounds with all the guys around the league. You know,

1782
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 1: got a bunch of friends coming. Evan Ingram I used

1783
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 1: to play at Ole miss with It's going to be there.

1784
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 1: So I think that'll be a pretty good weekend. It's

1785
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: gonna be great. We're gonna bring down a lot of film.

1786
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 1: We're going to do some I think a couple of

1787
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,600
Speaker 1: hours every day of on field work and kind of

1788
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 1: just some drills at each of the guys. Like, I

1789
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,600
Speaker 1: think it's going to be kind of a forum to

1790
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 1: where like every guy can kind of show a couple

1791
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 1: things that they like and a couple of things that

1792
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,679
Speaker 1: they see on film. It's kind of everyone brings own

1793
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 1: perspective on stuff, so we can kind of learn from

1794
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 1: everyone in their different styles of plays. So I think

1795
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 1: it's going to be pretty cool. It's like a tight

1796
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 1: end summit, so it should be very interesting. And again

1797
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: here is Dawson Knox trying to pull from very successful

1798
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: veteran players in this league any little scrap of knowledge

1799
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 1: or insight that they can give him so he can

1800
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 1: better his game. So Dawson Knox clearly hard at work

1801
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 1: and even working with Josh Allen. They would take stuff

1802
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 1: from their Zoom meetings in phase one of the offseason program,

1803
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: and then if there was something new that Brian Dable installed,

1804
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 1: they'd go right out on the field and wrap it physically,

1805
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 1: which has enormous value. So Dawson Knox doing all the

1806
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 1: right things to have a break out third season. We're

1807
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 1: all hoping that does come to fruition. We'll take a

1808
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 1: break here, but when we come back, some interesting stuff.

1809
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 1: We know that betting is becoming more and more popular

1810
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 1: as it's being legalized in more and more states here

1811
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 1: in the country. Betting on table tennis, Yeah, it's a thing.

1812
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: We'll get to that when we return here on One

1813
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1814
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,799
Speaker 1: Welcome back to one Bills Live. We're about ten minutes

1815
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 1: away from catching up with Eric Wood for the final

1816
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 1: hour of the show here on Friday, and I wanted

1817
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: to bring this to your attention. Sometimes, Steve and I

1818
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: will bring to your attention something a little wild and

1819
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 1: a little wacky, and I think this one qualifies. So

1820
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 1: not every state that has legalized betting puts out reports

1821
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: on how much betting is done on certain sports, but

1822
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 1: there are states that do. And apparently in the state

1823
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 1: of Colorado, betters are completely infatuated with betting on ping pong.

1824
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 1: It is insane how much betting is being done on

1825
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 1: ping pong. You say, well, where the heck are they

1826
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: even playing ping pong that you can bet on? It's

1827
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 1: half a world away. In Russia. They have these ping

1828
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 1: pong tournaments in Russia and you can bet on them online,

1829
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: which I have to admit doesn't exactly sound like it's

1830
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 1: on the up and up. I mean, there is widespread

1831
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 1: corruption in Russia in a whole number of areas. Would

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01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if it was in ping pong

1833
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 1: as well. But to give you an idea, so apparently,

1834
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 1: when COVID hit and all the sports stopped, no NBA,

1835
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 1: no NHL, no Major League Baseball, people are wondering whether

1836
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 1: there was going to be football. There was nothing left

1837
01:29:56,640 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 1: for the habitual betters to bet on. So what do

1838
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 1: they do. They go searching online for something to bet on.

1839
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 1: There wasn't even MMA for a while, if you remember.

1840
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:12,759
Speaker 1: They find table tennis and they're all over it. So

1841
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:16,799
Speaker 1: this is crazy. So the people at the sports books

1842
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 1: at the major sports works like, okay, this is just

1843
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 1: something that's filling the void. They're betting on table tennis

1844
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 1: because there's literally nothing else to bet on. When the

1845
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 1: other sports come back, ping pong will drop off. Oh no,

1846
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 1: that has not happened at all. As a matter of fact,

1847
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 1: it's holding serve no pun intended. In terms of the

1848
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 1: money that is being bet on ping pong in Colorado alone,

1849
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 1: eight point eight million dollars was wagered on table tennis

1850
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 1: in the month of March alone, in just the state

1851
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 1: of Colorado. It's more than double the amount that was

1852
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 1: bet on MMA in the month of March. In the

1853
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 1: state of Colorado. Back in January, the figure was eleven

1854
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 1: point eight million, more than was bet on college football

1855
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 1: bowl games. That is insane. So basically what they've discovered

1856
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:21,679
Speaker 1: is the allure of betting on ping pong for betters

1857
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 1: is it is equivalent to pulling a slot arm on

1858
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 1: a slot machine in Vegas. Why because they literally know

1859
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:35,839
Speaker 1: nothing about these ping pong matches. They don't know Tom

1860
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 1: from Harry from who's playing. There's no rankings. All they

1861
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 1: give you is a favorite and an underdog. Apparently, you

1862
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 1: can bet as the match unfolds. The lines change almost instantaneously.

1863
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 1: There's some betters quoted in this story on Yahoo Sports

1864
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 1: by Frank Schwab, who put together a great piece on this.

1865
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 1: There are betters quoted in this story basically saying sometimes

1866
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: I can't even get the bet in on time before

1867
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:05,599
Speaker 1: the line changes again. So the frenetic nature of the

1868
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 1: lines changing isn't a lure apparently for these guys. So

1869
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 1: basically the numbers have not dropped off in terms of

1870
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:18,719
Speaker 1: the betting on table tennis, and there are other states

1871
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 1: where this is being heavily bet upon as well. The

1872
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 1: other thing is matches being due to the fact that

1873
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:29,640
Speaker 1: they being played in Russia and the Ukraine and a

1874
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 1: couple other places. They're on in the morning, So when

1875
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 1: there are no other games going on in the States

1876
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 1: because it's in the morning here, that's something for them

1877
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 1: to wake up and literally bet on as soon as

1878
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 1: they roll out of bed. And so there is a

1879
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 1: ton of money being wagered on these table tennis matches

1880
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: in Russia and the Ukraine, and the fact that they

1881
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 1: don't know anything about him makes it purely a game

1882
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:57,759
Speaker 1: of chance, like they're literally rolling the dice and betting

1883
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 1: on ping pong. But it's a big deal in Colorado

1884
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:04,800
Speaker 1: and a few other states. And the other thing that's

1885
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 1: kind of a phenomenon about this is there is no

1886
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 1: social media presence about betting on table tennis. Nobody's on

1887
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 1: Twitter or Instagram saying, hey, just cleaned up, you know,

1888
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 1: on the Vassiliev Prokhorov match in Russia this morning. Bet

1889
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 1: the underdog and Vassiliev helped me make a ton of money.

1890
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 1: Nobody's doing that. There's no like social media chatter. It's

1891
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 1: like this underground betting, like fight club. Nobody talks about

1892
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 1: fight club. Nobody talks about betting on table tennis. So

1893
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 1: it's crazy. The only thing that I found funny. There

1894
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:47,759
Speaker 1: are now concerns about table tennis irregularities. So last July,

1895
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 1: New Jersey halted gambling on Ukrainian table tennis due to

1896
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 1: concerns that matches involving six players were being fixed. You think.

1897
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about out Russian and Ukrainian table

1898
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 1: tennis where corruption is spelled with a capital C over there,

1899
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 1: so it's still a game of chance. Anyway. It doesn't

1900
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 1: sound like these betters even care that they're fixed. They

1901
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 1: just like betting on them. And apparently the underdogs provide

1902
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 1: big returns more than in any other sporting event that

1903
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 1: you can bet on, So big returns on underdogs could

1904
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 1: mean big paydays. So these people that habitually bet they

1905
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 1: are all over it. So crazy. But hey, if you're

1906
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,639
Speaker 1: a betting person, you want to check it out. Take

1907
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 1: a whirl on Ukrainian or Russian table tennis. Apparently a

1908
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 1: lot of people in Colorado are having an awful lot

1909
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 1: of fun. We have to take a break, but when

1910
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 1: we come back, it's Eric Wood joining us as we'll

1911
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 1: talk to him about OTAs some third year players he

1912
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 1: thinks could have a big season for the Bills, among

1913
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 1: other things including the Bills schedule. Eric Wood coming up

1914
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 1: next here on One Bill's Live presented about a lot

1915
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:18,480
Speaker 1: of health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker

1916
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 1: who has been all over the fields. Kind of unique.

1917
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for you state,

1918
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp, We're not even in the stratgyre of normalcy.

1919
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,519
Speaker 1: It's tide. For our number three of a Friday edition

1920
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 1: of One Bills Live, Chris Brown, Here's Steve tasker Off.

1921
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 1: He'll be back next Monday, and here to help me

1922
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 1: through the final hour of the program is Bill's radio

1923
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:47,000
Speaker 1: and television analyst, former Bills center and former first round

1924
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 1: pick in two thousand and nine, The Pride of Louisville,

1925
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 1: Kentucky and uh well, for that matter, Cincinnati, Ohio. It

1926
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:56,679
Speaker 1: is one of Eric Wood joining us and Eric first

1927
01:35:56,720 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 1: and foremost. And before we get into football, I do

1928
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 1: have to get into the horses a little bit, because

1929
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 1: I know you're in that game, and we've got the

1930
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 1: Belmont this weekend, which is literally twenty minutes from where

1931
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:12,639
Speaker 1: I grew up and is a really really long track.

1932
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 1: But the Baffort stuff, how much did that surprise you?

1933
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 1: I know there's a history there because he's got horses

1934
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 1: that have run into some problems over the years. So

1935
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 1: for people in that horse racing community, I'm just curious,

1936
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 1: because I consider you one of them. Was it shocking

1937
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 1: or was it like, oh, he might have finally stepped

1938
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:38,560
Speaker 1: in at this time. Yeah, Well, since we're on the

1939
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 1: topic of non football related stuff, is Steve on the

1940
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 1: golf course today? Is that why I'm helping bring the shot?

1941
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:46,559
Speaker 1: He is playing one hundred holes. It is for charity,

1942
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 1: but he is playing one hundred holes. Yes, okay, so

1943
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 1: my assumption was correct. It's for a much better cause

1944
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 1: than I would have given him credit for. I would

1945
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 1: assume he was out there gambling with his buddies, out

1946
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 1: there playing. Well, there might some of that too, we

1947
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:06,559
Speaker 1: don't know, yeah exactly, but no. So when the news

1948
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 1: came out about Baffort, I mean, you suspect you know,

1949
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 1: everybody in that industry is trying to push the limit.

1950
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 1: There's been so many things over the years that they'll

1951
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:20,720
Speaker 1: find something, they'll ban it. They'll find something they'll ban it,

1952
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 1: and oftentimes it's not like you would think. It's not

1953
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:28,680
Speaker 1: a steroid, it's not a performance enhancing drug, per se.

1954
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 1: A lot of it's painkillers that they're that they ban

1955
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 1: over the years because if they can get these horses

1956
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 1: to feel a little bit better, not necessarily be bigger, faster, stronger,

1957
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 1: If they can even just get them to be a

1958
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 1: little less painful than they'll get them out there while

1959
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 1: it's still putting the animals in danger. They want to

1960
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:50,879
Speaker 1: protect the industry, protect the sport. So to my knowledge,

1961
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 1: what see, and here's my thing on this. I'm getting

1962
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 1: a little bit on a tangent here. But they found

1963
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:59,680
Speaker 1: one trillionth of an ounce worth of this substance in

1964
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 1: a horse's blood. I assume that a horse has more

1965
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 1: blood than a human. It seems like a tiny bit. Now.

1966
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's more significant than I'm giving

1967
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 1: it credit for, but it seems like a very minor infraction.

1968
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:15,760
Speaker 1: But when you've been busted before, like Bob Bafford has,

1969
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:18,719
Speaker 1: you have to play by the exact rules. I understand

1970
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 1: that a guy like Bob Bafford has a large team

1971
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 1: beneath him. It's not Bob Befford. They said it came

1972
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 1: from a topical cream that was used at some point

1973
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 1: prior one of the trainers put it on. One of

1974
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 1: the assistant trainers put it on. He should have known better.

1975
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 1: But you know, ultimately, similar to the stuff that happened

1976
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 1: with Louisville basketball down here in our community here, even

1977
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:41,800
Speaker 1: though it wasn't Rick Pettino you should know everything that's

1978
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:44,600
Speaker 1: going on within your program. Bob Bafford needs to know

1979
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 1: everything that's going on in the stable, especially with a

1980
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 1: Derby winner in Medina spirit. So you know, it's a

1981
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 1: dark it's a black eye for horse racing. I had

1982
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 1: Brad Cox, a Louisville based trainer who had the Derby

1983
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 1: favorite and also the Belmont favorite. I believe in essential quality,

1984
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:04,640
Speaker 1: but he had he had the favorite. So I had

1985
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 1: Bob Bafford on my podcast the week of the Derby

1986
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 1: and he was just so excited about the possibility of

1987
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:13,920
Speaker 1: in the one hundred and forty seventh Kentucky Derby he

1988
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 1: could be the first Louisville based trainer to ever win. Well,

1989
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,640
Speaker 1: now he is, but he didn't get to celebrate in

1990
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 1: the winner circle with the garland of roses. Bob Bafford did,

1991
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 1: But now his horse is kicked out. Technically Mandaloon is

1992
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 1: the new winner. Thank god they don't reverse the betting

1993
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 1: because I hit the Derby really hard, So thank god

1994
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 1: they can't go back and take away those tickets. Yeah,

1995
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:42,799
Speaker 1: because I was reading up on this and Bafford's horses

1996
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 1: thirty medical violations. This is his fifth horse in a

1997
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 1: year with a failed drug test. And look, I'm not

1998
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 1: going to pretend to know the measurements either. I saw

1999
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 1: a measurement in the rite up that I've never even heard.

2000
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 1: I don't know what a Picho Graham is, but I've

2001
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:00,800
Speaker 1: read it for the first time. Now I still don't

2002
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 1: know what the measurement is, but it sounds small. But

2003
01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 1: man like you said, if you've been flagged for thirty

2004
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 1: medical violations, including five horses in the past year, like,

2005
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 1: I know you're trying to get an edge, but man

2006
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 1: like you can't do it. But you're gonna be under

2007
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 1: a microscope with that record, Yeah, for sure. And I'll

2008
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 1: say this. We formed a horse partnership. Will Wolford's in it,

2009
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:29,599
Speaker 1: so I have a four man horse partnership and we've

2010
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 1: claimed and sold some horses over the past year or

2011
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 1: so and finding a trainer that had never been popped

2012
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 1: because we didn't want any of our reputations to ever

2013
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 1: be tarnished. We're not putting enough money in it to

2014
01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 1: ever probably have a Derby winner by any sense, So

2015
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 1: we also don't want to ruin our reputation by aligning

2016
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:50,680
Speaker 1: ourselves with someone who has cheated the game before. It

2017
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:54,400
Speaker 1: was tougher than you'd probably think the find one. So

2018
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 1: these guys have so many horses there's very minor infractions,

2019
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 1: but this wasn't quite as minor. This was something that

2020
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 1: if proven, you know, this would enough to get it

2021
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 1: banned from the derby. There's stuff that could pop up

2022
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 1: that would be a lot less. I don't want to

2023
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 1: make a human comparison because I feel like I'd be

2024
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:20,559
Speaker 1: off base, but similar to where someone could be taking

2025
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 1: an old school, late eighties style steroid and get popped

2026
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:27,559
Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, oh that's a bad one, compared

2027
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 1: to you know, someone that maybe showed up on a

2028
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:34,400
Speaker 1: drug test and it wasn't something nearly as severe or

2029
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 1: as performance enhancing. So do you know enough about the

2030
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:40,280
Speaker 1: Bellmont Field Eric to kind of handicap it a little

2031
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 1: bit for us, Like, who do you think has a

2032
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 1: good shot at it? Because it's a longer track, as

2033
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 1: you know than the other ones. Right, So heading into

2034
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 1: the derby. One of the reason hot Rod Charlie was

2035
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 1: a big name that week on along the backside of

2036
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 1: the track where we'd go down and hang out and

2037
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 1: try and get some good tips. Hot Rod Charlie was

2038
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 1: so fast can can he do it over a mile

2039
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,639
Speaker 1: and a half? Probably not? Probably, probably can't get it done.

2040
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:08,479
Speaker 1: I think I think he was sitting at seven to two.

2041
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:09,720
Speaker 1: I should have pulled it up. You told me you're

2042
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 1: gonna ask you about this. I should have pulled our field. Um,

2043
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pulling for a central quality. I'd love to

2044
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:17,720
Speaker 1: see Brad Cox to be able to celebrate one leg

2045
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 1: of the triple crown since Mandaloon's technically the winner of

2046
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 1: the Derby. You know, I'd love to see him celebrate

2047
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 1: this weekend with a central quality. But at a mile

2048
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 1: and a six and sixteenth you have to throw, you know,

2049
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 1: some long shots in there. It's a small field this year,

2050
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:37,679
Speaker 1: nine horses, I think eight or nine horses, I believe,

2051
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 1: so smaller field. There's there's not gonna be maybe those

2052
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 1: huge bombs like you see on the Derby, but I

2053
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 1: think you'll be able to catch some odds out there.

2054
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 1: You know, I'll probably be playing essential quality over um,

2055
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 1: you know a number of horses and exact as tries

2056
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 1: and supers and try and hit one similar to how

2057
01:42:56,000 --> 01:43:00,200
Speaker 1: I hit the Derby, and really on the derby, I

2058
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:05,759
Speaker 1: put in Bob Baffort Brad Cox and a few horses

2059
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 1: that I had kind of caught window throughout the week,

2060
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 1: believe you know, Midnight Bourbon High Roight Charlie, a few

2061
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 1: of those, and it hit and everyone said, how the

2062
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 1: heck did you hit? The Souper and the Oaks Derby

2063
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:20,519
Speaker 1: double and everything. When Bob Bafford said he didn't even

2064
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 1: like his horse, and I was like, I get that,

2065
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 1: But when you're Bob Bafford and you have a horse

2066
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 1: that you're willing to put in the derby, you're not

2067
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 1: going to go out there and embarrass yourself. He at

2068
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 1: least thinks he's got a shot. Yeah, let's move on

2069
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:36,360
Speaker 1: to the Bills, because we've heard some good things about

2070
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:40,280
Speaker 1: AJP and says he's made a complete body composition transformation

2071
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:44,479
Speaker 1: after struggling with a last year. And you know, Leslie

2072
01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 1: Fraser said, he is in a great spot right now.

2073
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna be able to hit the ground running when

2074
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:50,679
Speaker 1: the pads go on, and that's really the only thing

2075
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:53,679
Speaker 1: left for him because he's got his body right now.

2076
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:58,880
Speaker 1: So can you maybe just recall the benefits of rookie

2077
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:02,719
Speaker 1: year to second year and that first full off season

2078
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 1: having the benefit of an NFL Strength and conditioning program

2079
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 1: with Siano and the guys, and how much more prepared

2080
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 1: you felt physically going into year two. You know, for me,

2081
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 1: it was a different situation because I was coming off

2082
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 1: of that bed I did than in November. I did

2083
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 1: the Joe Thismen leg break in November of O nine.

2084
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:25,320
Speaker 1: Was able to make it back from the start of

2085
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 1: the next season, But you know, I limped in to that,

2086
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:31,559
Speaker 1: started out training camp, then took two weeks off, then

2087
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 1: practice one week prior to the season, and it was

2088
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 1: kind of an up and down year because I really

2089
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 1: hadn't practiced that much. But heading into the next offseason,

2090
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 1: I had a better understanding of what I needed to

2091
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:46,560
Speaker 1: get done. I had another minor ankle clean up to

2092
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 1: start the off season, so I had to rehab again. Well,

2093
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 1: we had the lock out that year, so it wasn't

2094
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 1: until probably heading into that next year, heading into my

2095
01:44:56,320 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 1: third year, that I actually got to experience a full

2096
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:03,599
Speaker 1: off season in our OTAs. This one of my least

2097
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 1: favorite things on Earth is guys that used to play

2098
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:08,639
Speaker 1: let's say, well back up my day, are practices were

2099
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 1: so much more physical. From my understanding, the OTAs are very,

2100
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 1: very they're being watched very closely right now. The amount

2101
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:20,559
Speaker 1: of contact they're having, they really want to take away

2102
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 1: as much contact as they possibly can. Well, that is

2103
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 1: only going to maybe hinder some of these young guys

2104
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 1: that that could get really good at using their hands

2105
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:34,080
Speaker 1: and feet this time of year. So one of the

2106
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:36,759
Speaker 1: one of my observations when I looked at who wasn't

2107
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 1: showing up for these OTAs was those two book in

2108
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:44,360
Speaker 1: defensive ends and Mario Addison Jerry Hughes, who everyone is

2109
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 1: just pegging as the two starters heading into the season. Well,

2110
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 1: this is a great time for a Javanessa, Greg Rousseau

2111
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 1: potentially a Boogie Basham to get some reps with that

2112
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:59,400
Speaker 1: first unit, where you know Mario and Jerry are going

2113
01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:01,840
Speaker 1: to get those ups during OTAs if they're there, well,

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01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 1: they know the defense, they know what's going on, and

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01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 1: they don't need those more than a walk through less

2116
01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 1: than a training camp practice reps. Gotcha, I know you

2117
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 1: had Greg Russell on your podcast recently. He just put

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01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 1: pen to paper today after agreeing to terms yesterday on

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01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 1: his rookie contract. Getting that much time with him to

2120
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:28,880
Speaker 1: sit down and chat. What were your main takeaways from him. Yeah,

2121
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:31,479
Speaker 1: I'd like where his mindsets at. And he's a guy

2122
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:34,759
Speaker 1: that I actually spoke to two years ago on the phone,

2123
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:37,400
Speaker 1: just one on one, prior to one of his Miami

2124
01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:38,680
Speaker 1: games that I was calling. We were going to do

2125
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 1: a feature on him during the season. It was early

2126
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 1: in the year, but he was already starting to break

2127
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:46,639
Speaker 1: out during that season. And you know, a guy like him,

2128
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:49,680
Speaker 1: he's got so much potential. He's a great kid, he's

2129
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 1: a hard worker. It was interesting to me that, you know,

2130
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:54,560
Speaker 1: last year he was saying, you know, part of the

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01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 1: reason he opted out wasn't from a lack of competitive standpoint,

2132
01:46:57,479 --> 01:46:59,599
Speaker 1: and not even a real maybe fear of the virus.

2133
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:03,599
Speaker 1: You know, they didn't see, they didn't predict, you know,

2134
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:06,360
Speaker 1: him and the people he was associating with didn't predict

2135
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 1: that there would even be a season. So he wanted

2136
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:10,479
Speaker 1: to start training for the combine to get a jumpstart

2137
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:12,400
Speaker 1: on that. They end up having a season and he

2138
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:14,800
Speaker 1: misses it. But I like where his head's at. He's

2139
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 1: got a humble nature about him, but also a competitiveness

2140
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 1: to where when we were talking, I said, you know,

2141
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:24,920
Speaker 1: everybody's just assuming that this year you are the backup

2142
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 1: you'll learn under you know, Mario and Jerry, and then

2143
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:31,440
Speaker 1: you'll take off run. And I said, as a competitor,

2144
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:33,840
Speaker 1: is that where you see yourself? He's like, no, I'm

2145
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:36,599
Speaker 1: going in to compete for the starting job. And I said,

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01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 1: you know, you can do that in a way that

2147
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 1: doesn't alienate you from your teammates. You can talk about

2148
01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:45,959
Speaker 1: wanting to compete for a starting spot. You have respect

2149
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 1: for the veterans. But you know, I was trying to

2150
01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:51,360
Speaker 1: encourage him. His mindset needs to be you need to

2151
01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:54,000
Speaker 1: go in and try and earn that starting spot, which

2152
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:57,080
Speaker 1: may end up being a rotational role. It may be

2153
01:47:57,200 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 1: some pass rush situations, but his goal needs to be

2154
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 1: to go in and earn that starting spot. And we

2155
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:06,800
Speaker 1: had a fun conversation and we had touch base over

2156
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:09,680
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, so I had some familiarity

2157
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 1: with him. I gave him some wing recommendations which I

2158
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:14,880
Speaker 1: saw in his instagram. He went and hit up the

2159
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 1: spots I recommended, and I don't think they're sponsors of

2160
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. I won't give him a free shout out,

2161
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 1: but I saw on his Instagram that he went to

2162
01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:24,880
Speaker 1: those spots. So we texted about that it seems like

2163
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:28,599
Speaker 1: a great kid. He seems like just another one of

2164
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 1: the Brandon Bean Sean McDermott draft picks. He's a great kid.

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01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of potential. He's young, he looks

2166
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 1: the part. I mean, he's like the Tremaine Edmund's mold.

2167
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:43,479
Speaker 1: Tremaine is like that prototype six five, two forty something

2168
01:48:43,479 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 1: middle linebacker, super young can develop. You know, Greg Ruzzo

2169
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 1: is kind of in that mold. Maybe he'll get time

2170
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:52,800
Speaker 1: to learn on the fly this year, but I'd love

2171
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:54,879
Speaker 1: to see him come in and make an impact, honestly,

2172
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 1: And you know, part of that's going to be how

2173
01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:59,360
Speaker 1: quick can you get up to speed after a year off,

2174
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:01,679
Speaker 1: but being able to get extra reps, like I said

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01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:05,040
Speaker 1: before during OTA, he should help with that process. We

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01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:10,759
Speaker 1: also heard from Bill's tight end Dawson Knox yesterday. Found

2177
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 1: out that he spent some time out west with Josh

2178
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 1: Allen where they were taking some of the new installs

2179
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:19,800
Speaker 1: from Daybole in phase one of the offseason program, which

2180
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:22,640
Speaker 1: was all on Zoom and Virtual, and they would go

2181
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 1: right out on the field after the Zoom meetings were

2182
01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:27,680
Speaker 1: done and execute him and get the physical reps in

2183
01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 1: as well. Then he told us he's working with his

2184
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 1: hand eye trainer out in California, who's like shooting ping

2185
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:37,920
Speaker 1: pong balls out of these machines at him and doing

2186
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 1: these like tap the screen eye tests and stuff. And

2187
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:47,680
Speaker 1: then you hear about how Devin Singletary's all rocked up

2188
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 1: doing training. He's working with a speed coach and his

2189
01:49:52,160 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 1: ad leaned muscle maaster through his chest and shoulders. And

2190
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:57,800
Speaker 1: it's also year three for Ed Oliver and Cody Ford.

2191
01:49:57,800 --> 01:50:00,559
Speaker 1: And I know Cody's coming off offseason surgery, so situation

2192
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 1: might be a little different. But which of those four

2193
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:09,840
Speaker 1: third year players from the twenty nineteen class do you

2194
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 1: like most to have a breakout third season for this team. Yeah,

2195
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:17,559
Speaker 1: I'll kind of touch on all of them and then

2196
01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:23,599
Speaker 1: i'll reveal my pick afterwards. When you look at Dawson Knox,

2197
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, there's been obvious signs of disappointment, you know,

2198
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 1: some of the mistakes he made on the field, some

2199
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 1: of the drops, But then you see the great potential

2200
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:35,680
Speaker 1: that he has. The athleticism, you know, some of the

2201
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:40,439
Speaker 1: great catches, blocks, he runs well in space, So you

2202
01:50:40,479 --> 01:50:43,040
Speaker 1: see the potential. You just gotta cut down on the

2203
01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:45,599
Speaker 1: mistakes and when you have a quarterback like Josh Allen,

2204
01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 1: you know, you just envision of what he could do

2205
01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:52,519
Speaker 1: even further if he had a big time tight end.

2206
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 1: And that's part of the reason why so many people

2207
01:50:55,280 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 1: were rumoring the Kyle Rudolf's, the zach ertz Is and

2208
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 1: everybody else, some of those big time tie ends to

2209
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:05,679
Speaker 1: the Bills, because you just think, man, that's another added

2210
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:08,720
Speaker 1: piece of the puzzle. I love that he's taking this

2211
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:12,479
Speaker 1: off season so serious and understanding the opportunity he has

2212
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 1: in front of him this year. And shoot, I don't

2213
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:18,599
Speaker 1: know if a hand eye coordination, a coach or whatever

2214
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:21,680
Speaker 1: they're doing these ping pall balls helps him be more

2215
01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:24,000
Speaker 1: reliable on catching. And what it does show me though,

2216
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:26,720
Speaker 1: is that he's taking this off season very serious and

2217
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:28,599
Speaker 1: that he's willing to do whatever it takes to get better.

2218
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:31,040
Speaker 1: That's similar to like guys that go to the combine

2219
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:33,160
Speaker 1: and it doesn't really matter how many times you can

2220
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 1: do two twenty five. It doesn't really matter, especially as

2221
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 1: an offensive line on what you run the forty end.

2222
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:40,559
Speaker 1: But if you don't show up and actually show that

2223
01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:42,920
Speaker 1: you put the work in, then you're probably not going

2224
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 1: to put the work in. When you get to the

2225
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:46,760
Speaker 1: NFL to get better. This is a guy that's willing

2226
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 1: to put in the work. Devin Singletary kind of the

2227
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:52,080
Speaker 1: same deal. Does Devin Singletary need to get bigger, stronger?

2228
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:54,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. He's an elusive back. You know. The

2229
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 1: one knock on him is the top end speed. Does

2230
01:51:57,360 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 1: adding some muscle help him be more horrible during the season,

2231
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:04,240
Speaker 1: be able to deliver more bows, more yards after the catch?

2232
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:07,240
Speaker 1: I sure hope so, because he's a promising young kid.

2233
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 1: You know, he had that bad drop in the playoff

2234
01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:12,800
Speaker 1: game and I heard him talking about it, which you know,

2235
01:52:12,920 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 1: that's that's something he could have said. You know, people

2236
01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 1: make mistakes, but it hurt him and that caused some

2237
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:21,599
Speaker 1: momentum against the Bills. He seems to be a guy

2238
01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 1: who cares a lot about being on this team and

2239
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:28,520
Speaker 1: making an impact. And they bring in Matt Breda, they

2240
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 1: draft Moss last year, so there's some pressure on him

2241
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 1: to perform. Ed Oliver I think has the most pressure

2242
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:37,639
Speaker 1: on him to perform, just being the fact that he

2243
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:40,599
Speaker 1: hasn't filled up the stat sheet as a number one

2244
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:42,479
Speaker 1: draft for the Bills, and the Bills have been so

2245
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:46,400
Speaker 1: good with their draft, you just assumed that Ed Oliver

2246
01:52:46,479 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 1: would come in and be an immediate impact player. He

2247
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:53,040
Speaker 1: has to fill the shoes of Kyle Williams immediately, which

2248
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:57,200
Speaker 1: is extremely tough. And Brandon Bean has done a great

2249
01:52:57,280 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 1: job of, you know, kind of curbing the expectation on him,

2250
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:03,160
Speaker 1: saying that a lot of what he's doing on the

2251
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:08,439
Speaker 1: field isn't noticed quite like maybe Kyle was noticed. Maybe

2252
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 1: the statue quite isn't filling up, but he really is

2253
01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 1: impacting games. So you know, I'm hoping for him that

2254
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:18,759
Speaker 1: he has just a tremendous season. And then Cody Ford

2255
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:21,720
Speaker 1: actually ran into him down to Miami when me and

2256
01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:23,639
Speaker 1: my wife were down there visit and got to see

2257
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:25,759
Speaker 1: him out to e We talked for a little while.

2258
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 1: It seems like his head's in a great spot, and

2259
01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 1: he's a guy that I think has been effective anytime

2260
01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:33,040
Speaker 1: he's been on the football field for the Bill so far,

2261
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 1: He's been a great draft pick. He's a tone setter

2262
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:40,320
Speaker 1: up front, kind of like John Feliciano is Cody Ford's

2263
01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:42,760
Speaker 1: kind of cut from that same mold. He fits the

2264
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 1: attitude of the line up front, and I think he's

2265
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 1: a guy that coming back off this acl we'll have

2266
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:51,200
Speaker 1: a great season. So for me, the guy that I'd

2267
01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 1: like to see show up the most this year would

2268
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 1: be at Oliver. You know, for me, you're gonna have

2269
01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:58,679
Speaker 1: to make a decision on him before too long. And

2270
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:01,400
Speaker 1: the Bills have just done so well under Brandon Being

2271
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 1: and John McDermott with their draft picks that maybe they

2272
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:06,600
Speaker 1: were due to not hit an absolute home run. Is

2273
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 1: he an NFL starter? Yeah? He is. Is he a

2274
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:14,280
Speaker 1: top ten pick that you would expect from being a

2275
01:54:14,439 --> 01:54:19,800
Speaker 1: McDermott Not yet, but could this be his year? Yeah?

2276
01:54:19,840 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thoughts on this, Eric, because

2277
01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 1: succeed in Football dot Com had a recent interview with

2278
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:28,600
Speaker 1: Bill's former GM Doug Whalley. He had a couple of

2279
01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 1: interesting comments, first on Buddy Nicks's drafting of EJ. Manuel

2280
01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 1: and the lesson he learned from it as an assistant GM,

2281
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:40,040
Speaker 1: and then something about the center position, which I obviously

2282
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:42,720
Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on for obvious reasons. So

2283
01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:49,600
Speaker 1: he basically laid out that going into that twenty thirteen draft,

2284
01:54:50,360 --> 01:54:55,879
Speaker 1: Buddy pretty much told Doug flat out that he wanted

2285
01:54:56,120 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 1: to get the quarterback before he rode off into retirement.

2286
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:06,840
Speaker 1: For the franchise, and he said that unbeknownst to him,

2287
01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:09,480
Speaker 1: he didn't know he was going to retire after the draft.

2288
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:12,920
Speaker 1: He didn't know what's happening, and then the draft happens,

2289
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 1: and he said that Buddy had painted himself into a

2290
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 1: corner so much about getting the quarterback that he overdrafted.

2291
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 1: When you know EJ. For whatever you want to believe,

2292
01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:28,400
Speaker 1: he thought probably should have been drafted later than he was.

2293
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:31,400
Speaker 1: And there's a part of me that still feels for

2294
01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:34,320
Speaker 1: EJ and all the circumstances that he was thrust into

2295
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo, whether it was the original plan of

2296
01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:40,880
Speaker 1: not to have him start right away, and then Kevin

2297
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:44,760
Speaker 1: Cobb has that concussion, his career's over EJ's thrust on

2298
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 1: the field. You know the history. I don't need to

2299
01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 1: tell you, but it just seems like such a foreign

2300
01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:55,280
Speaker 1: concept looking at the drafting of Brandon Bean now and

2301
01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:58,280
Speaker 1: even the drafting of Bill Pollion years ago, to see

2302
01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:01,960
Speaker 1: that kind of approach, especially with a quarterback at the

2303
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 1: quarterback position. I realize it's important, but I think it

2304
01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:08,080
Speaker 1: sheds a light eric on why there are so many

2305
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 1: misses on the quarterback position, particularly in Round one. For sure, Yeah,

2306
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:16,760
Speaker 1: when you paint yourself in a hole, when you build

2307
01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:20,760
Speaker 1: up to a situation. Let's think about Chicago and Traubisky

2308
01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:24,600
Speaker 1: and forcing him into that starting role in his rookie year,

2309
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:26,960
Speaker 1: and he actually played pretty well as rookie year. But

2310
01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:32,000
Speaker 1: you get your roster set, you then s well, you

2311
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 1: stink bad enough, you bring in the free agents. Now

2312
01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:36,480
Speaker 1: it's time to draft the rookie because you got to

2313
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:39,040
Speaker 1: get a rookie quarterback that you're only going to pay

2314
01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:41,840
Speaker 1: that rookie salary to to for a few years. And

2315
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 1: you get to that spot and then you have to

2316
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:46,160
Speaker 1: draft someone and what if that's not the year that

2317
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:50,640
Speaker 1: the Trevor Lawrence, the Josh Allen Baker Mayfield. What if

2318
01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:52,840
Speaker 1: it's not that class. What if guys don't come out,

2319
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:54,680
Speaker 1: what if they don't play as well their junior or

2320
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:57,600
Speaker 1: senior year. And that's that's what you've seen in those

2321
01:56:57,640 --> 01:57:01,600
Speaker 1: two draft classes stick out in particulier with the guys

2322
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Speaker 1: who went first in that draft. And you know, EJ

2323
01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:09,800
Speaker 1: was very vulnerable on my podcast talking about how if

2324
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 1: he had a veteran there, if there was not a

2325
01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 1: first year offensive coordinator, if there was there were so

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01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:18,520
Speaker 1: many circumstances that led, you know, if he even got

2327
01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:20,440
Speaker 1: to play the full preseason. EJ heard his knee in

2328
01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:23,400
Speaker 1: the preseason, and so when you look at it, there

2329
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 1: was a lot of things that you know, set EJ

2330
01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:28,240
Speaker 1: up for not early success. And one of the best

2331
01:57:28,240 --> 01:57:31,320
Speaker 1: things you could do as a quarterback is not be

2332
01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:33,880
Speaker 1: on the field earlier in your career, and then you

2333
01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:37,760
Speaker 1: kind of maybe there's that potential out there, the Matt

2334
01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 1: Barkley where you can play for a long time as

2335
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:42,760
Speaker 1: a backuple. People saw enough of EJ and then he

2336
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 1: didn't really stick on as a backup either. But I

2337
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:50,680
Speaker 1: love EJ to death, you know, and I'll always be

2338
01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:53,000
Speaker 1: in his corner. I love playing with him, loved loved

2339
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:55,360
Speaker 1: his work ethic. Could we have got him later in

2340
01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:59,160
Speaker 1: the draft, likely, But if they go too far back

2341
01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:01,400
Speaker 1: and you don't get him him and he was your

2342
01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:05,360
Speaker 1: top guy, well then you're really yeah. And they did

2343
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 1: move back because the Bills had the eighth pick in

2344
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:09,360
Speaker 1: the draft that year and they did a trade with

2345
01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:13,320
Speaker 1: the Rams slid back to sixteen, and at least from

2346
01:58:13,320 --> 01:58:16,840
Speaker 1: what I've heard, Doug was pushing him, Hey, let's let's

2347
01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:19,040
Speaker 1: move back again, and he's like no, I'm taking him here,

2348
01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:21,760
Speaker 1: and he took him at sixteen and as we would

2349
01:58:21,800 --> 01:58:23,640
Speaker 1: find out later, there's no way to predict the future.

2350
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:26,080
Speaker 1: But no other quarterback went round one, and Gino Smith

2351
01:58:26,120 --> 01:58:28,080
Speaker 1: was the next quarterback off the board who went Round

2352
01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:31,800
Speaker 1: two and his career has been largely as a backup

2353
01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:35,200
Speaker 1: as well. The other thing that came out of that

2354
01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:38,440
Speaker 1: interview with Doug was he said, in the minds of

2355
01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:43,760
Speaker 1: some scouts and executives, the center position has he clipsed

2356
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:48,960
Speaker 1: left tackle as the most important position on the offensive line.

2357
01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:53,080
Speaker 1: He says it's due to today's complex defenses and the

2358
01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:56,800
Speaker 1: center's need to make the right line calls. Here's the

2359
01:58:56,840 --> 01:58:59,760
Speaker 1: quote from Doug. It was always offensive tackle, but the

2360
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:03,000
Speaker 1: has two coaching searches, a lot of them switched to center,

2361
01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:05,080
Speaker 1: and it was because of the mental part of the

2362
01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:08,120
Speaker 1: game and identifying the middle linebacker being able to make

2363
01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:11,200
Speaker 1: the line calls. And that's so important now because of

2364
01:59:11,240 --> 01:59:14,600
Speaker 1: the intricacies of the defense. And we saw some of

2365
01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:18,520
Speaker 1: that this offseason. Eric. The La Chargers signed Corey Linsley

2366
01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:22,560
Speaker 1: to help out Justin Herbert. Miami signs Matt Skura to

2367
01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:26,240
Speaker 1: help out Tua. So what can you say to that,

2368
01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:28,680
Speaker 1: and do you feel that this is a trend that's

2369
01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:32,840
Speaker 1: only going to gain more and more traction going forward. Here, Well,

2370
01:59:32,920 --> 01:59:34,840
Speaker 1: let me first off start by saying, I'm glad the

2371
01:59:34,840 --> 01:59:37,560
Speaker 1: Bills brought him Brandon being and what he's doing, But man,

2372
01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:39,520
Speaker 1: I wish Doug was there for my last deal because

2373
01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:42,280
Speaker 1: I might have had a lot more money, but in

2374
01:59:42,440 --> 01:59:45,200
Speaker 1: centers in general might But you know, to your point,

2375
01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 1: I think the center position is extremely important, especially with

2376
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:51,600
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks, because a smart center can take a lot

2377
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:55,040
Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks responsibilities off their plate. I am not

2378
01:59:55,120 --> 01:59:58,400
Speaker 1: tooting my own horn by saying this, and I'm even

2379
01:59:58,440 --> 02:00:00,960
Speaker 1: kind of reluctant to say it. I just want to

2380
02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:04,600
Speaker 1: boost Doug Whaley's words here. When Tyrod Taylor made the

2381
02:00:04,640 --> 02:00:07,640
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl in twenty sixteen, the twenty sixteen Pro Bowl

2382
02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:10,160
Speaker 1: after the twenty fifteen season, David Lee came up to

2383
02:00:10,160 --> 02:00:13,000
Speaker 1: me that offseason and he was said, I thank you

2384
02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:15,960
Speaker 1: so much. I have a Pro Bowl quarterback because you

2385
02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:19,160
Speaker 1: handled every line call, check and everything that needed to

2386
02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:22,360
Speaker 1: be done, and Tyrod could really focus on where he

2387
02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:24,640
Speaker 1: wanted to go with the football in each play as

2388
02:00:24,680 --> 02:00:27,280
Speaker 1: opposed to everything else that was going on at the

2389
02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:30,320
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. There's other quarterbacks. I would argue that

2390
02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:33,839
Speaker 1: now a Tom Brady doesn't like people around him, especially

2391
02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:35,880
Speaker 1: in the middle of the pocket. So yes, his center

2392
02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:38,800
Speaker 1: is important, but his mental responsibility is not gonna be

2393
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:41,919
Speaker 1: the same. Same with Ryan Fitzpatrick. He wants to handle everything.

2394
02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:45,080
Speaker 1: I've heard about Peyton Manning never played with him, obviously,

2395
02:00:45,400 --> 02:00:48,040
Speaker 1: But when you have quarterbacks that like to run the

2396
02:00:48,040 --> 02:00:50,200
Speaker 1: whole show at the line of scrimmage themselves, it's not

2397
02:00:50,280 --> 02:00:53,320
Speaker 1: as important for the center, And then that probably puts

2398
02:00:53,400 --> 02:00:57,360
Speaker 1: more emphasis on pure talent across the line, maybe your

2399
02:00:57,560 --> 02:01:00,000
Speaker 1: left tackle so that quarterback knows that he can see

2400
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:04,320
Speaker 1: in the pocket with his blindside protected. But for young quarterbacks,

2401
02:01:04,480 --> 02:01:08,280
Speaker 1: and when Brandon Being gave me my contract extension, hope

2402
02:01:09,040 --> 02:01:11,320
Speaker 1: Brandon's comfortable with me saying this, And I think he

2403
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:14,840
Speaker 1: said this when my care enda was He resigned me

2404
02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:17,960
Speaker 1: knowing that they were going to move to a young

2405
02:01:18,040 --> 02:01:20,760
Speaker 1: quarterback sometime in the near future and he wanted a

2406
02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:23,160
Speaker 1: veteran center there to be able to help him out.

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02:01:23,160 --> 02:01:26,680
Speaker 1: That was a huge compliment. I appreciated that, but I

2408
02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:29,240
Speaker 1: agree with that, and just like you said, you're seeing

2409
02:01:29,280 --> 02:01:32,880
Speaker 1: that around the league. Where you know guys that truly

2410
02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:37,240
Speaker 1: understand an offense. They can really help out a young quarterback. Yeah,

2411
02:01:37,360 --> 02:01:40,960
Speaker 1: and unfortunately, after your career ended prematurely, he turned around

2412
02:01:41,040 --> 02:01:43,440
Speaker 1: and went and got Mitch Morse and and paid him

2413
02:01:43,440 --> 02:01:46,400
Speaker 1: a boatload of money too. So you missed your window,

2414
02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:50,840
Speaker 1: man missed your window. Well, I'm making so much money

2415
02:01:50,840 --> 02:01:55,640
Speaker 1: on one live appearances now, I mean it's it's such

2416
02:01:55,680 --> 02:01:58,160
Speaker 1: a better gig than making all the money those guys

2417
02:01:58,160 --> 02:02:00,680
Speaker 1: are making now. Timing is everything, isn't it. We have

2418
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:02,360
Speaker 1: to take a break here, but when Eric and I

2419
02:02:02,440 --> 02:02:05,800
Speaker 1: come back, we're gonna dip back into the Friday fan

2420
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:10,440
Speaker 1: mail bag. Your questions answered by Eric and myself when

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02:02:10,440 --> 02:02:12,360
Speaker 1: we come back Here on One Bill's Live presented by

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02:02:12,400 --> 02:02:25,600
Speaker 1: Hell Out of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

2423
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:27,920
Speaker 1: to One Bill's Live, final half hour of the show,

2424
02:02:28,040 --> 02:02:31,480
Speaker 1: Chris Brown with Eric Wood joining us helping us here

2425
02:02:31,520 --> 02:02:33,440
Speaker 1: on a day where Steve is out on the links,

2426
02:02:33,440 --> 02:02:37,400
Speaker 1: playing a hundred holes of golf and probably enjoying the

2427
02:02:37,440 --> 02:02:39,480
Speaker 1: heck out of his day. But it is for a

2428
02:02:39,480 --> 02:02:41,560
Speaker 1: good cause, as he's doing it for charity, so good

2429
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:45,440
Speaker 1: on him. We want to get to the obil fan

2430
02:02:45,720 --> 02:02:48,840
Speaker 1: Friday mail bag because we have a few questions left

2431
02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:50,360
Speaker 1: over that we want to get to here before the

2432
02:02:50,360 --> 02:02:55,320
Speaker 1: show is out. J t asks Eric with more cap space, Now,

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02:02:55,960 --> 02:02:59,320
Speaker 1: who do Bean and McDermott have their eyes on trade

2434
02:02:59,360 --> 02:03:02,280
Speaker 1: for Earth's or a free agent that's still out there.

2435
02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:04,800
Speaker 1: What position in free agency do you think we target?

2436
02:03:05,160 --> 02:03:08,120
Speaker 1: And if Starr doesn't return, do we trade to get

2437
02:03:08,160 --> 02:03:11,200
Speaker 1: a guy to stuff the middle? Also, Happy twenty ninth

2438
02:03:11,200 --> 02:03:14,320
Speaker 1: birthday to me to go Bills. All right, let's take

2439
02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:17,000
Speaker 1: these one by one. Eric. First of all, I don't

2440
02:03:17,120 --> 02:03:19,840
Speaker 1: understand this. Steve and I have been experiencing this with

2441
02:03:19,920 --> 02:03:23,200
Speaker 1: fan calls. There seems to be this concern that Star

2442
02:03:23,960 --> 02:03:26,640
Speaker 1: is not returning after opting out last year, and all

2443
02:03:26,680 --> 02:03:31,960
Speaker 1: indications are that he is. And not only that, if

2444
02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:34,720
Speaker 1: he is not on the roster, it costs the Bills

2445
02:03:34,760 --> 02:03:36,640
Speaker 1: more money with the dead cap hit than it is

2446
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:39,040
Speaker 1: to have him on the roster. So I think there

2447
02:03:39,040 --> 02:03:42,000
Speaker 1: are a number of reasons why he would be back. Plus,

2448
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:44,080
Speaker 1: he just put an Instagram video out last week of

2449
02:03:44,160 --> 02:03:46,960
Speaker 1: him working out with a trainer, so I am not

2450
02:03:47,080 --> 02:03:49,120
Speaker 1: worried about that at all. So let's just get that

2451
02:03:49,160 --> 02:03:52,240
Speaker 1: out of the way first. So take this second one

2452
02:03:52,920 --> 02:03:55,840
Speaker 1: trade for Earth's or a free agent that's still out there.

2453
02:03:55,880 --> 02:04:01,080
Speaker 1: With the new cap space reportedly created with the Dig's restructure. Yeah,

2454
02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:03,919
Speaker 1: I would say they either have their mind on upgrading

2455
02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:06,560
Speaker 1: the roster at some point this summer. A lot of

2456
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:09,800
Speaker 1: people thought they would target corner early in the draft.

2457
02:04:10,120 --> 02:04:13,040
Speaker 1: Maybe you go after a veteran cornerback that you could

2458
02:04:13,080 --> 02:04:17,520
Speaker 1: put opposite Tredavious White. It's potentially, you know, just a

2459
02:04:17,680 --> 02:04:20,320
Speaker 1: move to free up some cap space with that looming

2460
02:04:20,400 --> 02:04:24,800
Speaker 1: Josh Allen contract coming, that looming Tremaine Edmunds contract. Maybe

2461
02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:27,520
Speaker 1: you try and get one of them resigned. Maybe trying

2462
02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:30,720
Speaker 1: Tremaine signed Tremaine before he makes another Pro Bowl and

2463
02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:32,960
Speaker 1: he costs you a ton. I saw the articles that

2464
02:04:33,000 --> 02:04:36,200
Speaker 1: were written this week about Leslie Fraser talking about how

2465
02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:39,320
Speaker 1: well Tremaine's played throughout his career as best days of football,

2466
02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:41,280
Speaker 1: or a head that a number of the guys that

2467
02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:44,280
Speaker 1: the Bills drafted this year are older than Tremaine is.

2468
02:04:44,640 --> 02:04:50,320
Speaker 1: In Tremaine's heading into year four. So all that being said, yeah,

2469
02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:53,920
Speaker 1: these moves are made for a reason, and I love

2470
02:04:53,960 --> 02:04:56,040
Speaker 1: the fact that the Bills are freeing up cap space.

2471
02:04:56,080 --> 02:05:01,360
Speaker 1: I actually did it prior to a season during my career,

2472
02:05:01,400 --> 02:05:07,280
Speaker 1: converted part of my salary to roster bonus to bonus,

2473
02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:10,040
Speaker 1: which essentially just guarantees that you're going to be on

2474
02:05:10,040 --> 02:05:12,040
Speaker 1: the team. Stefon Diggs is going to be on the

2475
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:14,120
Speaker 1: team this year. The fact that the Bills are willing

2476
02:05:14,120 --> 02:05:17,360
Speaker 1: to spend more money to create more cap space shows

2477
02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:19,720
Speaker 1: how invested that the Poulas are on this team to

2478
02:05:19,760 --> 02:05:22,920
Speaker 1: allow that to happen. And so with that extra cap space,

2479
02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:27,440
Speaker 1: keep upgrading this roster. You have this really special chance

2480
02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:31,480
Speaker 1: while Josh Allen still making not crazy amounts of money

2481
02:05:31,480 --> 02:05:33,560
Speaker 1: on his rookie deal to put a lot of talent

2482
02:05:33,600 --> 02:05:36,160
Speaker 1: on the field around him. Go use this money and

2483
02:05:36,280 --> 02:05:38,640
Speaker 1: go make a run at making a super Bowl this year.

2484
02:05:38,920 --> 02:05:43,160
Speaker 1: In topping Kansas City in the conference, I would tend

2485
02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:45,800
Speaker 1: to think if they're going to add somebody, it's presumably

2486
02:05:45,840 --> 02:05:47,960
Speaker 1: going to be on the defensive side of the ball.

2487
02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:50,120
Speaker 1: Whether it's a corner as you mentioned, and there are

2488
02:05:50,120 --> 02:05:53,280
Speaker 1: some interesting veterans still floating around out there, whether it's

2489
02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:56,480
Speaker 1: Steven Nelson, Richard Sherman, Bashaud Breeland is still out there,

2490
02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:00,520
Speaker 1: or maybe it's a defensive tack. Well more of a

2491
02:06:00,560 --> 02:06:04,640
Speaker 1: true one technique to kind of even serve as a

2492
02:06:04,680 --> 02:06:09,440
Speaker 1: backup to star. And you know, people always look at

2493
02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:12,000
Speaker 1: the Carolina pipeline. I know, Quan Shorts coming off an

2494
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:14,880
Speaker 1: injury and has only played five games in each of

2495
02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:16,480
Speaker 1: the last two years, but I think that makes him

2496
02:06:16,520 --> 02:06:20,240
Speaker 1: affordable and they know him and having been with him

2497
02:06:20,240 --> 02:06:23,120
Speaker 1: in Carolina. So that's another name that kind of came

2498
02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:24,920
Speaker 1: to mind when I was trying to think, like, who

2499
02:06:25,000 --> 02:06:27,640
Speaker 1: could they be looking at that's still out there that

2500
02:06:27,880 --> 02:06:30,240
Speaker 1: they would have a high opinion of. So just a

2501
02:06:30,240 --> 02:06:33,240
Speaker 1: few names to throw out there. I think the zach

2502
02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:36,480
Speaker 1: Ertz thing would be a tough thing to traverse in

2503
02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:40,080
Speaker 1: terms of the money. I mean, could they could they

2504
02:06:40,160 --> 02:06:42,760
Speaker 1: get him after he's released, Well then yeah, it's a

2505
02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:45,840
Speaker 1: different story then. But under his current contract with one

2506
02:06:45,920 --> 02:06:49,240
Speaker 1: year left at eight and a quarter, even with the

2507
02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:53,920
Speaker 1: cap space they created, that just doesn't fit. I suppose

2508
02:06:54,520 --> 02:06:58,280
Speaker 1: they could do the trade and then rework his contract,

2509
02:06:58,400 --> 02:07:01,320
Speaker 1: tack on an extra year, spread the money out. Maybe

2510
02:07:01,320 --> 02:07:03,360
Speaker 1: they do that if Urge is amenable to that, But

2511
02:07:03,400 --> 02:07:06,760
Speaker 1: you don't know that, so I think there's too many

2512
02:07:06,760 --> 02:07:10,720
Speaker 1: hoops to jump through there for that to be something

2513
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:12,840
Speaker 1: on the table. I mean, never say never, but I

2514
02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:16,360
Speaker 1: think it's unlikely. I don't know if you feel differently. No,

2515
02:07:16,560 --> 02:07:19,040
Speaker 1: I think you're exactly correct, and you're not going to

2516
02:07:19,160 --> 02:07:21,360
Speaker 1: give up a whole lot for a guy that's on

2517
02:07:21,400 --> 02:07:26,120
Speaker 1: a one year deal, especially when he's when he's owed

2518
02:07:26,120 --> 02:07:27,880
Speaker 1: so much money that his cap HiT's going to be

2519
02:07:27,960 --> 02:07:30,200
Speaker 1: what it is this year. I think you're spot on there, Chris.

2520
02:07:30,600 --> 02:07:33,480
Speaker 1: All right, So another one here from Patrick. I'm still

2521
02:07:33,520 --> 02:07:36,720
Speaker 1: intrigued with the addition of Matt Brita. Do you think

2522
02:07:36,720 --> 02:07:38,640
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills will be able to get him on

2523
02:07:38,680 --> 02:07:42,280
Speaker 1: the field and carry three running backs on game day

2524
02:07:42,640 --> 02:07:46,000
Speaker 1: and use his unique skill set and speed. It was

2525
02:07:46,040 --> 02:07:49,200
Speaker 1: the one weakness this team had for the running game

2526
02:07:49,320 --> 02:07:52,800
Speaker 1: last year. I'm hoping for better. We heard all the

2527
02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:55,720
Speaker 1: pre draft talk Eric about a home run threat, and

2528
02:07:55,760 --> 02:07:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, he's already on the roster. His

2529
02:07:58,200 --> 02:08:02,600
Speaker 1: name's Matt Brita, and I think he was just on

2530
02:08:02,640 --> 02:08:05,520
Speaker 1: the outside looking in last year in Miami, and I

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Speaker 1: think it dropped his free agent value, which made him

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02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:10,120
Speaker 1: affordable for the Bills. But you go back to what

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02:08:10,160 --> 02:08:11,960
Speaker 1: he did in San Francisco as part of a three

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02:08:12,040 --> 02:08:15,480
Speaker 1: headed backfield guy averaged over five yards to carry, and

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Speaker 1: I know that's a proven run scheme out there in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco that makes just about everybody productive. But I

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02:08:22,640 --> 02:08:25,560
Speaker 1: think there's some value here. But three running backs up

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Speaker 1: on game day, I'm not convinced that's going to happen

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02:08:28,480 --> 02:08:33,280
Speaker 1: because Taiwan Jones is a special teams demon and he's

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02:08:33,360 --> 02:08:36,360
Speaker 1: essentially your third running back every week. So I don't

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02:08:36,400 --> 02:08:40,480
Speaker 1: see them having Moss, Singletary and Brita up every single week.

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Speaker 1: It might be a matchup thing, right, Yeah, it could be,

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02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:47,960
Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see in the preseason. You know,

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02:08:48,000 --> 02:08:50,960
Speaker 1: you don't get super excited about preseason games, but that

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02:08:51,000 --> 02:08:54,200
Speaker 1: could be a time where they really evaluate the run game.

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02:08:54,240 --> 02:08:56,880
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be super physical during training camp, so

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02:08:56,920 --> 02:08:59,320
Speaker 1: it might be a time. Hey, we're gonna get Josh

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02:08:59,360 --> 02:09:01,600
Speaker 1: Allen out early in games, but we want to see

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Speaker 1: what this run game can do. Let's see who the

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Speaker 1: most effective is of these three running backs, because I

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02:09:07,160 --> 02:09:10,320
Speaker 1: mean being McDermott, both were so critical of the run

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02:09:10,360 --> 02:09:14,680
Speaker 1: game in their postseason comments with the media, and so

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02:09:15,240 --> 02:09:19,000
Speaker 1: that shows me that they want an upgrade, and you know,

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02:09:19,760 --> 02:09:23,000
Speaker 1: they weren't willing to make a move on Travis Etn

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02:09:23,120 --> 02:09:25,640
Speaker 1: or somebody like that in the draft, and I respect

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02:09:25,720 --> 02:09:27,720
Speaker 1: that because you have a guy like you mentioned. This

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02:09:27,720 --> 02:09:31,240
Speaker 1: guy was extremely productive in San Francisco. He's a home

2558
02:09:31,320 --> 02:09:34,480
Speaker 1: run hitter and that's what they need. But but you're right,

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02:09:34,600 --> 02:09:39,000
Speaker 1: unless Brita is going to be a special team's ace

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02:09:39,080 --> 02:09:41,960
Speaker 1: as well, you can't get four up. You're gonna have

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02:09:42,040 --> 02:09:45,520
Speaker 1: Taiwan Jones up. And so you know it could be

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02:09:45,560 --> 02:09:47,960
Speaker 1: a deal though, where you have the luxury of having

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02:09:48,040 --> 02:09:51,680
Speaker 1: three guys two up end game day, you get one dinged.

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02:09:52,040 --> 02:09:55,120
Speaker 1: Now you have confidence in two guys even if one

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02:09:55,160 --> 02:09:57,160
Speaker 1: of those guys misses a game with injury. Yeah, and

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02:09:57,280 --> 02:09:58,880
Speaker 1: I know you could probably speak to this better than

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02:09:58,920 --> 02:10:00,760
Speaker 1: I can, so I'll tee up on this. But I

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02:10:00,800 --> 02:10:04,200
Speaker 1: think about some of the outside run plays and Moss

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02:10:04,360 --> 02:10:09,840
Speaker 1: and Singletary. While you know they're capable backs, they're not

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02:10:10,000 --> 02:10:12,400
Speaker 1: quick to the edge just because of foot speed. And

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02:10:12,480 --> 02:10:14,600
Speaker 1: maybe that'll change with all the work Singletary did with

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02:10:14,640 --> 02:10:19,240
Speaker 1: a speed trainer. Maybe not. But Brita at four three eight,

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02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:23,520
Speaker 1: you run a run play to the edge with the

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02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:26,880
Speaker 1: threat that Josh is as a deep passer. Knowing those

2575
02:10:26,880 --> 02:10:30,120
Speaker 1: safeties have to respect that they're not in the box

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02:10:30,640 --> 02:10:32,760
Speaker 1: and they can't come down fast enough on a four

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02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:35,600
Speaker 1: three eight guy at the edge. I gotta believe there's

2578
02:10:35,640 --> 02:10:38,680
Speaker 1: some scheming there that Brian Dable can draw up that

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02:10:38,720 --> 02:10:43,880
Speaker 1: fits Brita's game perfectly. For sure. Absolutely, And when you

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02:10:43,920 --> 02:10:47,560
Speaker 1: look at it, it gives Brian dayball more options, more

2581
02:10:47,600 --> 02:10:50,360
Speaker 1: flexibility in the game plan to get the ball outside.

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02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:54,040
Speaker 1: Breeda's gonna be effective inside the tackles as well. When

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02:10:54,040 --> 02:10:57,160
Speaker 1: you play in that Shanahan style of offense, you know

2584
02:10:57,240 --> 02:10:59,680
Speaker 1: that wide zone offense, A lot of times it's not

2585
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:03,360
Speaker 1: getting outside the tight end that's the initial aiming point,

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02:11:03,680 --> 02:11:05,960
Speaker 1: and then a lot of times it cuts back. And

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02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:09,440
Speaker 1: so can he be effective running in between the tackles. Absolutely,

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02:11:09,440 --> 02:11:14,040
Speaker 1: He's a year five. He understands concepts NFL run game concepts.

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02:11:14,120 --> 02:11:16,520
Speaker 1: So you know they have three talented backs. But this

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02:11:16,600 --> 02:11:19,760
Speaker 1: is what Being's done throughout his time here. He's stockpiled

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02:11:19,920 --> 02:11:23,880
Speaker 1: talent throughout this roster, creates great competition, and that's why

2592
02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:25,160
Speaker 1: you see a lot of the guys that the Bills

2593
02:11:25,240 --> 02:11:27,880
Speaker 1: end up cutting get picked up either teams after the

2594
02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:32,280
Speaker 1: preseason because they stockpile talent to great competition. All right,

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02:11:32,280 --> 02:11:33,800
Speaker 1: we have to take a break, but Eric and I

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02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:37,040
Speaker 1: will close it up next with a fellow Louisville alum.

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Speaker 1: There's a little bit of news on Lamar Jackson and

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02:11:39,320 --> 02:11:43,640
Speaker 1: what their scheme might look like that's different in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one. We'll get to that when we return here

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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. We learned this, Eric, about your

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Speaker 1: fellow Louisville alum, Lamar Jackson. Greg Roman, the OC down there,

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02:12:14,320 --> 02:12:18,360
Speaker 1: said he wants more downfield passing in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: So how much do you really believe, having worked with

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Speaker 1: Greg Roman yourself, that he will diversify I mean, he

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02:12:24,800 --> 02:12:27,520
Speaker 1: has been versatile in his coaching career. How much do

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Speaker 1: you think he diversifies that offense? You know, I think

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02:12:31,240 --> 02:12:33,680
Speaker 1: this is a natural progression for a quarterback that you've

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Speaker 1: taken the first round, that you don't want to put

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02:12:36,280 --> 02:12:39,920
Speaker 1: a square peg into a round into a circle spot.

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Speaker 1: You did a great job of putting him into situations

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Speaker 1: in the first three years of his NFL career where

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Speaker 1: he can win an MVP Award. Well, you're not stretching

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02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:52,560
Speaker 1: the field enough to keep defenses honest, and you've seen

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02:12:52,600 --> 02:12:55,160
Speaker 1: in the playoffs the last two years them get eliminated

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Speaker 1: early after tremendous regular season. So I think they're going

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02:12:58,400 --> 02:13:00,640
Speaker 1: to try to open it up. They bring in Sam Waalkins,

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02:13:01,600 --> 02:13:03,800
Speaker 1: they draft Bateman in the first round this year, so

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02:13:03,840 --> 02:13:06,000
Speaker 1: they want to take the top off the defense. I

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02:13:06,000 --> 02:13:08,360
Speaker 1: think with Greg Roman it's always going to be set

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02:13:08,440 --> 02:13:10,880
Speaker 1: up by the run first though, But yes, they are

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02:13:10,920 --> 02:13:13,280
Speaker 1: going to work some downfield shots. They said they're gonna

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02:13:13,280 --> 02:13:16,520
Speaker 1: be under center more, which provides some of those hard

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02:13:16,560 --> 02:13:19,440
Speaker 1: play action deep shots. Yeah. Now it's just a matter

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Speaker 1: of Lamar connecting on those. The stats aren't friendly because

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty he was the twenty eighth most accurate

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02:13:27,080 --> 02:13:30,600
Speaker 1: downfield passer, and that's without a lot of attempts on

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Speaker 1: his part. So he's gonna have to step up his

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02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:36,839
Speaker 1: game in that area and maybe with better downfield targets

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02:13:36,840 --> 02:13:40,000
Speaker 1: like Watkins and Bateman, he will have more success and

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02:13:40,160 --> 02:13:43,640
Speaker 1: make them a more dynamic offense. Eric thanks a ton

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Speaker 1: for helping us out here today. We appreciate it. Have

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Speaker 1: a great weekend. Enjoy the Belmont man. I hope you

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Speaker 1: hit it. Yeah. My pleasure coming on anytime, always a

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02:13:51,560 --> 02:13:55,320
Speaker 1: pleasure doing away me Chris, have a great weekend. Shoot

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Speaker 1: me a text if you want some winners. Yeah right,

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02:13:57,880 --> 02:14:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm not a betting man. That is not my that's

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Speaker 1: not my act. Steve and I back on Monday. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you then. H