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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Ryan Warmley, joined as I am every Thursday morning by

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Speaker 1: Pat fitz Morris and by Jake Seeley from The Athletic Guys.

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Speaker 1: This is our Thursday show. We talked some starts, we

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Speaker 1: talked some sits, We talked some waiver ads this week

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Speaker 1: that we didn't have last week. I will also do

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Speaker 1: our touchdown calls at the end of the show. Quick

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Speaker 1: reminder for everybody that all of our twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: consensus rankings and tears can be found at fantasypros dot com.

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Speaker 1: Slash rankings fits well as we are here. You know,

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Speaker 1: a week into the season. What were some of your

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Speaker 1: early takeaways from Week one? How do you feel about

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Speaker 1: all the teams you drafted? Where's your head at one weekend?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was kind of a mixed bag

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Speaker 2: of course in week one, luckily not too many injuries,

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Speaker 2: although we uh, you know, are dealing with the news

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Speaker 2: that Brock Perdy is gonna miss maybe a month or so. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was it was an interesting week, Like

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Speaker 2: Week one, the unpredictability.

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Speaker 3: Who would have thought that.

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Speaker 2: In the early window the only game to go over

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Speaker 2: the Vegas total would be Steelers Jets and it would

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Speaker 2: go flying over the total and almost get there by halftime.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's the kind of unpredictable season we're in four this.

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Speaker 1: Year, Jake, what's your headspace like? One weekend?

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Speaker 4: It's one week relaxed, basically, to use that old cliche,

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Speaker 4: I was actually just looking at our good friend the

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Speaker 4: Welsh and I actually sent him a text and say

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Speaker 4: congratulations and going viral and I'm looking right now and

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Speaker 4: now he has almost.

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Speaker 5: Nearly a million views for that.

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Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey sucking the life force out of George kittle

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Speaker 4: Brock Berdy, Brandon Ayuk and Juwan Jennings just to stay

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Speaker 4: healthy this year. Kudos to him for that, Like definitely

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Speaker 4: was the tweet of the week. But it's sad for them.

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Speaker 4: But again, for everybody out there, don't overreact.

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Speaker 5: It's week one. I actually know what I will. We'll

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Speaker 5: pause here for a second.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to take the floor from you worm, if

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Speaker 4: that's okay. For everybody that tuned in at the beginning

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Speaker 4: of August and the end of July and never since

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Speaker 4: on these shows we were doing together and said that

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Speaker 4: I'm pulling back, pulling back, pulling back, pulling back, pulling back.

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Speaker 4: On Kenneth Walker being the bell cow. You guys know

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Speaker 4: I said that. How many times did I say it

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Speaker 4: to you guys? When I was like, you have to

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Speaker 4: be on the field to be a bell cow. Please

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Speaker 4: tune into the entire story. I moved them all the

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Speaker 4: way down to RB eighteen. Please come for me. If

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Speaker 4: you drafted early August, I suffered the same pain. I

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Speaker 4: feel the pain of having them as my anchor running

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Speaker 4: back where I went three wide receivers to start. So

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Speaker 4: I understand that. But at the same time, there was

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Speaker 4: additional information. So stay tuned. You can come for me,

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Speaker 4: but also come for me within the right time.

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Speaker 2: As all I'm saying, don't capitulate on this, Jake, Like

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Speaker 2: we don't. We'll talk more about this during the show,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure, But like I don't think. I don't think

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Speaker 2: you need to capitulate on Kenneth Walker just yet.

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Speaker 1: He will be coming up later in the episode. The

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Speaker 1: way this episode is going to work for those who

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Speaker 1: are just tuning in for the first time this week,

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Speaker 1: We've got a couple different segments for you. We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about some of the popular waiver ads this weekend.

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Speaker 1: If these are guys that we are going to be

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Speaker 1: considering starting right off the bat, or if they're more

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Speaker 1: stashes for the long term, We're gonna plan our flag

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Speaker 1: on some players, guys that we just really are convicted

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Speaker 1: in for this week. And then of course we've got

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Speaker 1: some start sit player debates. We've got some larger ones

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Speaker 1: at running back and receiver than some more rapid fire

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Speaker 1: our quick start sit decisions at every position including flex

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Speaker 1: later on in the show, and we'll of course wrap

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Speaker 1: things up as I mentioned before, with our touchdown Calls contest,

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Speaker 1: where we predict a touchdown for each week.

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Speaker 5: This week one.

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Speaker 1: I well, Harrison hit. He was the only one. I

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Speaker 1: gonor right, No Connor O Connor. We had Connor, So

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Speaker 1: I don't know the ye last week. I know mine

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Speaker 1: didn't hit, which is what I'm really thinking about. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I was just talking about, Yeah, well you guys could

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Speaker 1: do is Well, let's let's see how you guys do

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Speaker 1: when you have to pick the tight ends. Okay, that's all.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 5: You gave yourself a really bad draw out of the gate.

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Speaker 3: On that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was a tough start. But I'm

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Speaker 1: with are we starting or sitting some of these popular

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Speaker 1: waiver ads from this week? And the reason we included

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Speaker 1: this segment we started doing it last year is because

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Speaker 1: it's it's very interesting. Like a lot of the times,

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Speaker 1: everybody gets all excited about Okay, let's go, you know,

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Speaker 1: spend all our fab and our waiver priority and get

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Speaker 1: whoever the hot names are of the week, but then

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Speaker 1: you are forced with a question of him I starting

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Speaker 1: And this is through our Saints League data on Fantasy

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Speaker 1: pros is where I'm drawing who these names are that

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Speaker 1: are the most popular ads of the week. I'll start

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Speaker 1: with Quentin Johnston, who was number one on that list, Jake,

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Speaker 1: are you starting him or sitting him? Here? In week two?

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Speaker 4: I'm starting him if I need to shoot for ceiling.

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Speaker 4: The encouraging part was that he was out there more

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Speaker 4: than Keenan Allen, and that Keenan Allen was primarily the

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Speaker 4: still right neck and neck with him and targets, with

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Speaker 4: the fact that he had a higher target share while

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Speaker 4: on the field than Quentin Johnston overall, because Justin Herbert still.

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Speaker 4: The good news the end zone and red zone targets.

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Speaker 4: We're going to Quinton Johnston. We know the big playability.

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Speaker 4: I'm definitely buying in that it might hit. This was

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Speaker 4: I don't know where Fitz falls on this one, but

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Speaker 4: I thought it was weird that Quinton Johnston when he

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Speaker 5: He's a raw prospect. And after year one we got

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Speaker 5: what we expected and people are like, well, he sucks.

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Speaker 4: And now I understand year two, the drops became more

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Speaker 4: shock for somebody to take three years. We used to

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Speaker 4: wide receiver, and I present all to say it is

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Speaker 4: like I am starting him but still no more as

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Speaker 4: definitively that far ahead of Key than Allen, despite the

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Speaker 4: Keenan Allen would be the floor. Quinton Johnson would be

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Speaker 4: the upside. I just don't think you have to slam

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Speaker 1: Fits What do you think I've.

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Speaker 2: Got him ranked wide receiver forty four. I think Quentin

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, so in a league where you have

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Speaker 2: Quentin Johnston, he always had that size speed combination and

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Speaker 2: This is like happy Gilmour learning how to pot.

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Speaker 1: How about Harold Fannin Junior? Fits you and I talked

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Speaker 1: about him a lot on the Dynasty Show throughout the

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Speaker 1: last several months. Now Here in his first NFL's you

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Speaker 1: know game has seven catches in week one. We know

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Speaker 1: that Joe Flacco does like tight ends for his honies

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Speaker 1: are you starting Fannin?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think he's probably a start for a lot

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Speaker 2: as excited as I am about Fannin, some of his

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Speaker 2: Week one success may have been opponent related. The Bengals

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Speaker 2: you know, then Fannin and David Nijok, who combined for

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Speaker 2: So for this week, I mean, I think I'd actually

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Speaker 1: Haryld Fannin junior is tight end seventeen. Jake where do

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Speaker 4: I completely agree with fits And you know, I kind

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Speaker 4: of pushed back in my ranks cal him at the

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Speaker 4: Athletic and I said, you know, he had sixty four

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Speaker 4: half decent for a tight end. But Isaiah Likely is

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Speaker 4: the comparison I drew. We did this with Isaiah Likely

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Speaker 4: last year, and Isaiah Likely top that mark six times

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Speaker 4: Is there the more Athletic arguably the higher ceiling on

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Speaker 4: run two tight ends, it's very hard to get value

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Speaker 4: Now, if they keep phasing away from Djoku because he's

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Speaker 4: cool I'm just with Fits on this one. Like Strange,

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Speaker 4: he's in that conversation. I do have fand and over

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Speaker 4: got it because he's banged up. I have him over

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Speaker 4: Evan Ingram, who, by the way, split with a third

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Speaker 4: tight end and Lucas Kroll to give you that headache. Good,

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Speaker 4: thank you for that, Broncos. But it's just the fact

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Speaker 4: of the volume of being on the field. So it's

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Speaker 4: tight end if you want to shoot for the upside.

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Speaker 4: But I'm with Fits. I'm not benching Kraft for him.

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Speaker 4: I would play Juwan Johnson over him. I think there's

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Speaker 4: just a few that feel a little bit safer, but

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Speaker 4: the ceilings there because he's a tight end.

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Speaker 2: Just to extend the fan and likely comparison two guys

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Speaker 1: Each of the last two years for sure. Kaishaon Booty

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Speaker 1: dead in terms of his fantasy value here with Drake

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Speaker 1: May Jake, what do you think about Kayshon Booty as

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Speaker 1: a potential start in a deeper league obviously for this week.

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Speaker 1: Like fits In ECR, Booty is wide receiver forty or

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Speaker 2: I think I'm sitting him this week. Nice depth piece

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Speaker 5: I have him right at thirty one.

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Speaker 4: that's okay because he kind of lives in that world.

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Speaker 4: But that's why he's thirty one and not twenty one

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Speaker 1: Let's go to sorry Fits, I forgot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Fits chime in there.

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Speaker 2: He was ready to go, oh, well, it's my fault

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Speaker 2: fits what you got on for half well, Jake covered

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Speaker 3: I totally agree with Jake.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess the only reason why you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: So I think you are starting, Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: All right, Now, let's now go to our plant your

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Speaker 1: Flag segment. If it's I'll start with you to make

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Speaker 1: it up to you. Which player are you again? This

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Speaker 3: Jamison Williams.

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Speaker 2: Do not be discouraged by his four catches for twenty

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Speaker 2: best cornerback, Jalen Johnson and you know, our colleague Andrew

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Speaker 2: Erickson refers to Ford Field as.

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Speaker 3: The cores field of the NFL.

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Speaker 2: It's a place where we offenseee offensive pyrotechnics. We certainly

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Speaker 2: But this is a get right spot for Detroit against Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Jamison Williams Fits is actually two spots behind Marquise Brown

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Speaker 1: what do you think about Williams? Real quick?

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Speaker 5: I agree.

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Speaker 4: I actually think this is a great bounce back spot.

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Speaker 4: You look at the fact that I think we talked

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Speaker 5: Somewhere I talked about it.

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Speaker 4: I said that Jared Goff's outdoorness or whatever you want

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Speaker 4: little bit overinflated on what really happens. He's not that

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Speaker 5: And also, let's not look past that.

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Speaker 4: I go back to Eli Manning when they changed offensive

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Speaker 4: with him. I have him clearly ahead of Markus Brown.

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Speaker 1: Jake, I'll stick with you. Who's your plant, your flag player.

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Speaker 5: I'm going Jordan Mason if you need a running back.

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Speaker 4: So the big thing that I noticed, and we hopefully

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Speaker 4: put them in your Week two lineup for those that

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Speaker 1: Out Fitz, Jordan Mason is RB thirty one in ECR. That,

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Speaker 1: by way, this is half PPR scoring whenever I'm referencing

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Speaker 1: ECR typically unless I specifically say otherwise, Jordan Mason RB

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Speaker 1: you think those should be switched or do you agree

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Speaker 1: that Jones should be a few spots higher.

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Speaker 2: I've got Mason RB thirty one and Jones RB Yeah,

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Speaker 2: RB twenty nine. So I'm pretty much right in line

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Speaker 1: Guys, let's get into some of our start sit player debates.

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Speaker 1: Will start off at running back two guys who depending

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Speaker 1: on how you were approaching your drafts like maybe felt

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Speaker 1: There was definitely some fading of these players by some

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Speaker 1: big week ones, Travis Etn and Brece Hall. Jake, I'll

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Speaker 1: start with you, would you rather start Etn or Haul

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Speaker 5: I want to start both of them.

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Speaker 4: They're both inside my top twenty, but I will go

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Speaker 4: still Haul with the slight edge over Etn. I know

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Speaker 4: Week one was everything we could have asked for from

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Speaker 5: Including the trading way of Tank makes me cool.

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Speaker 3: Clear that up.

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Speaker 4: The one interesting part about it is that Lequin Allen

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Speaker 4: about when I brought it up to you that they

437
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Speaker 4: used the bigger running back next to Justin Fields. And

438
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Speaker 4: I mean that as in any team that's used Justin Fields,

439
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Speaker 4: they usually put the bigger body next to them once

440
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Speaker 4: they're inside the ten yard line.

441
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Speaker 5: To offset his skill set.

442
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Speaker 4: That being said, we know that Justin Fields can and

443
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Speaker 4: does throw the running backs, and he did with Breace Hall.

444
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Speaker 4: It was that explosiveness. It's that the fact that who

445
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Speaker 4: is still their number two right now, Josh Reynolds. So

446
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Speaker 4: I think the real number two is Briace Hall.

447
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Speaker 5: So I'm okay with it.

448
00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,240
Speaker 4: I think they're going to have similar workloads, and again,

449
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,480
Speaker 4: the passing game I think is a little bit better.

450
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Speaker 4: As crazy as that might sound to people, I think

451
00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,840
Speaker 4: the passing game upside is better for Breuce Holden it

452
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Speaker 4: is for etn.

453
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Speaker 1: Fits. I think it's probably fair that a lot of

454
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Speaker 1: people would agree with Jake in terms of, like, ideally

455
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Speaker 1: you'd like to be starting both of these guys, but

456
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Speaker 1: I think there's probably a lot of bills out there

457
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,880
Speaker 1: where you know they their song or receivers, so there's

458
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Speaker 1: not room in the flex and you know they took

459
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Speaker 1: another running back early, and you really have to pick

460
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Speaker 1: between these two given how late ETN was going. So

461
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Speaker 1: if you were forced to not start both but pick one,

462
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Speaker 1: they're RB fifteen and RB sixteen respectively in ECR, who

463
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Speaker 1: would you pick?

464
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Speaker 2: And that's how I have them RB fifteen and RB sixteen.

465
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Speaker 2: I've ETN ranked one spot higher. But I don't have

466
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Speaker 2: a real strong feeling about this. It just it certainly

467
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Speaker 2: seems like Liam Cohen wants ETN to be the main

468
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Speaker 2: man in the Jaguars backfield, after what we saw in

469
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Speaker 2: their win over the Panthers, and after you know, James

470
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 2: Gladstone traded away Tank Big Speed of the Eagles. ETN

471
00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,200
Speaker 2: played sixty point six per of the Jaguars offensive snaps

472
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Speaker 2: last week. Bigsby was second in snaps in the Jaguars backfield,

473
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Speaker 2: but now he's gone, so maybe that snap share ticks

474
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Speaker 2: up even a little more for ETM this week. And

475
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Speaker 2: as for Hall, like after an entire offseason of Aaron

476
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Speaker 2: Glenn saying he wanted to use all three of his

477
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Speaker 2: running backs, I mean, the Jets did play Braylan Allen

478
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Speaker 2: and Isaiah Davis some and Braylen Allen had an eight

479
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Speaker 2: yard touchdown run, but Hall played fifty seven point eight

480
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Speaker 2: percent of the Jets snaps. Pretty healthy snap share there, I,

481
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Speaker 2: you know, feel slightly more confident in the size of

482
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Speaker 2: Etn's roll, I guess, but still very encouraging usage for

483
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Speaker 2: Hall in week one.

484
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Speaker 1: I won't ask the same question on every player debate,

485
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Speaker 1: but for these two in particular, do you guys feel like,

486
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Speaker 1: in terms of your rest of season rankings you are

487
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Speaker 1: aggressively moving them up after just one week? Because these

488
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Speaker 1: were two guys that, like I said at the beginning,

489
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Speaker 1: there were some people who liked them and thought they

490
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Speaker 1: were good values where they were and worthy risks, but

491
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Speaker 1: these were not players that were being aggressively fought after

492
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Speaker 1: on draft day for the most part. So do you

493
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Speaker 1: guys feel like one week I've seen enough both these

494
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Speaker 1: guys like kind of full steam ahead going forward? If

495
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Speaker 1: you have this basis, start um, borderline, set it and

496
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Speaker 1: forget it, Jake, or do you still have any like

497
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Speaker 1: kind of trepidation based on let's not overreact to just

498
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Speaker 1: one week.

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Speaker 4: So I had whole twenty two preseason, I'd probably move

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Speaker 4: him up two spots, bump out the check oh and

501
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Speaker 4: obviously Kenneth Walker to go back to that at RB eighteen,

502
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Speaker 4: so that would pretty much be like right around twenty,

503
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Speaker 4: maybe a spot or two more if we want to

504
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Speaker 4: do a complete toss up, so he's not moving that much.

505
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Speaker 5: Etn was always my.

506
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Speaker 4: Highest rank Jaguar, but that being said, I still had

507
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Speaker 4: him as an RB three and part of it was

508
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Speaker 4: tank Basically he was still around not knowing if Leon

509
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Speaker 4: Cohen was really going to turn to ETN or try

510
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 4: to make BIGSB a thing a ETN a timeshare piece.

511
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Speaker 4: So the fact that it's already been cleared up, I

512
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 4: think you can argue ETN should jump into it at

513
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Speaker 4: least back in RB two value, if not even a

514
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Speaker 4: little bit higher.

515
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Speaker 2: Fitz Hall was running back sixteen in my preseason rankings.

516
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 2: Now he's up to fourteen in the rest of season rankings,

517
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 2: so slight move up. Etn was running back thirty four

518
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 2: for me, like I just I had no idea which

519
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 2: way that backfield was gonna go, and thought, you know,

520
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 2: last year of his contract, maybe he could be a

521
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 2: stout at some point. And now I've got him at

522
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Speaker 2: RB fourteen, like huge, huge.

523
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Speaker 3: Change in the way.

524
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Speaker 2: I probably no one else in the league. I've viewed

525
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: through more of a different lens after one week than Travis.

526
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Speaker 4: Can I do a follow up question for fits there is?

527
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Speaker 4: Is it etn over every rookie running back not named gent.

528
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Speaker 2: Now ooh, let's see, I think I might have Hampton.

529
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Speaker 2: I've Hampton one spot, three spots ahead of them. I've

530
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Speaker 2: got Hampton RB thirteen.

531
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Speaker 1: Oh, Hampton is two spots behind in ECR for this week,

532
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Speaker 1: for the record, just to give context there. And you

533
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: know guys like Jay Van Henderson are you know, seven

534
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: spots behind and beyond gent Y's up at RBLI for

535
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: week two, just to give those those numbers. Jake, you

536
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: keep talking about Kenneth Walker. Let's get to him for

537
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: our second running back debate here. This is for week two,

538
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: not for the rest of the season. Kenneth Walker or

539
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: Javonte Williams coming off of his two touchdown game in

540
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: the opener, I.

541
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Speaker 4: Have them on completely separate tiers. Javonte Williams, like I

542
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 4: will admit, Javonte Williams didn't look one hundred percent pre injury.

543
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 4: Gravanta Williams. I'd say he was about ninety percent, But

544
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 4: that was the opportunity we're looking for, is hey, can

545
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 4: he look something like we used to know? But the

546
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 4: biggest thing here is something like we used to know?

547
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Speaker 4: They almost put that Gautier song in my head and

548
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 4: now I just did just is Javonte Williams kind of

549
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 4: falls into what I think is Joe Mixon if healthy,

550
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 4: Nick Chubb right now, and it's the volume, Like I

551
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 4: do think there'll be touches given away. Miles Sanders did

552
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 4: get some and then of course that funnel didn't help things.

553
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 4: Jayden Blue still isn't ready according to Jerry Jones and

554
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 4: everybody with his staff, and then probably inactive again this week.

555
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 4: So as long as he's healthy, it's a volume play,

556
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Speaker 4: and especially against the Giants, which the one part about

557
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 4: going back to the Giants that had brought up in

558
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 4: week one is that to get away from that defensive

559
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 4: line is you want to get some space and get

560
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 4: some runs out to the side, but also some receptions

561
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Speaker 4: and going against the Giants, Travanti Williams over Miles Sanders

562
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 4: in that area.

563
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Speaker 5: So that's why.

564
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Speaker 4: And to speak one more time to the Kenneth Walker,

565
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 4: like I said, I wasn't saying don't come for me,

566
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 4: please do? I like if you drafted in August, I

567
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 4: am sorry. The clear thing here is I'm hoping it

568
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 4: maybe fits. Is kind of his opinion. I don't want

569
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 4: to speak for Hi. I'm kind of curious how you

570
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 4: feel though, is maybe he's still not one hundred percent.

571
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Speaker 4: Maybe he's still being worked back in. The appeal for

572
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Speaker 4: Walker is to fit in the Kubiak system. But week one,

573
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Speaker 4: the fact that Sharbonney got the goal line touches and

574
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 4: they kind of used Walker as the pass down running back.

575
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Speaker 4: I'm just concerned that that doesn't continue throughout the entire season.

576
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Speaker 4: And maybe the door was so open for Sharbonay that

577
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Speaker 4: Kubiak already made his decision and that's how they're going

578
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Speaker 4: to play it unless an injury happens.

579
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Speaker 1: Fitz, what do you think?

580
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Speaker 6: I think.

581
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Speaker 1: I think Walker is probably one of the most discussed

582
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: players this week coming off of Week one the terms

583
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: of like what that's probably a better way to put it.

584
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: Just like you know he I mean again, the fit

585
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 1: in the offense is really appealing. He was one of

586
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: my most targeted players in that like round three and

587
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: four range if I was going receiver early, largely because

588
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: of what Jake said early in August. I'm just kidding.

589
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: I liked him already too, but I just like you

590
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: could see the upside case so clearly, and now we've seen,

591
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: just in one week the downside case. You know, not

592
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: true deb a full downside, but like the way in

593
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: which the ceiling doesn't get hit. So when you look

594
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Speaker 1: at Walker compared to a guy like Davonte, who still

595
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Speaker 1: does not look like the player he used to be,

596
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 1: but has this amazing I was shouting from the rooftops

597
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: that he was going RB thirty seven in real time

598
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: ADP by the end of draft season, and I was like,

599
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: that is insane. This is the starting running back who

600
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: is going to get I think, pretty much every touch

601
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: he can handle, just because there's no other competition there

602
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: for an offense that I expect to be like the

603
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: poor man's Bengals this year. I think he's going to

604
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: be the poor man's Chase Brown. Not as good a player,

605
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: but we'll have that kind of opportunity. So you compare

606
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: him like that who did take advantage of a Jalen

607
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: Carter list defense, to a guy like Kenneth Walker, where

608
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: the talent's really there. But you know, we have so

609
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: many questions about the opportunity. How do you square those

610
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,239
Speaker 1: two They are two spots apart in ECR Javonte's RB

611
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: twenty two Walker's RB twenty four.

612
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right about Walker being probably the most discussed

613
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: player this week, early this week and the you know,

614
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: post post Week one aftermath, And like I hosted a

615
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 2: Q and A on the Fantasy Pros discord last night,

616
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 2: I got more questions about Kenneth Walker than any other player.

617
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 2: But you know, at the top of the show, I

618
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 2: told Jake should not capitulate on Kenneth Walker, at least

619
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: not yet. Look, I'm not that worried about the Seahawks

620
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 2: running back usage in Week one. Like, yes, Charboney outsnapped

621
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker thirty to twenty one. But as Jake sort

622
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 2: of alluded to, Walker was dealing with the foot injury

623
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: last season, and he missed some practice time in August

624
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 2: with footsore us. I think the Seahawks are just being

625
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 2: a little cautious here, and Charbona is one of the

626
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: better backup running backs in the league, so they can

627
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: afford to lighten Walker's load if he's not one hundred percent.

628
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 2: But like, I don't think the foot issue is a

629
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 2: big concern, and maybe evidence of that is that Walker

630
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: got touches on a really high percentage of his snaps.

631
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 2: He played twenty one snaps, he either carried the ball

632
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 2: ran a route on nineteen of them. He had ten

633
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: carries and three catches, so touched the ball in more

634
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: than half of his twenty one snaps. So like, I'm

635
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 2: I'm still pretty bullish, and I am very high on

636
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 2: the Kubiak running game. So Javonte, you know, he had

637
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: the two touchdowns against the Eagles, there just wasn't a

638
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: lot of sizzle on his performance, though he averaged three

639
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: point six yards per carry against an Eagles defense that

640
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 2: was missing Jalen Carter. So I still feel much better

641
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: about Walker than I do about Javonte. And like, this

642
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: is from someone who to your point wherem I fell

643
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: backwards into Javonte Williams in a lot of drafts and

644
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 2: I really was not that into him, but I wound

645
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: up getting him on like three or fourteen just because

646
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: no one wanted to take him.

647
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: I on Javante on the performance against Philly. I just

648
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: wanted to quickly say like, and I didn't go back

649
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 1: and look at actually like what his you know, yards

650
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: per carry was before the delay and after. It did

651
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: feel like those were it was like a tale of

652
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: two different games, just for the offenses in general when

653
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: they had that hour plus lightning delay in the opener.

654
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: So I don't know if his yards per carry and

655
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: like efficiency, just the general offensive performance like dropped a

656
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: lot during that when looking at the course of the

657
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: whole game. If it felt like that kind of threw

658
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: everybody off and they came out a bit rusty. I'm

659
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: so scoring was way down after that, So I'm curious.

660
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: I went say, I'm curious to see how he does,

661
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, you know, moving forward against more normal team.

662
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: But he's facing Dexter Lawrence this week, so you know

663
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: that's maybe not the easiest matchup for him, and well

664
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes. Let's go to the wide

665
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: receiver debates here, Tyreek Hill versus Ricky Pearsall, Pierceaull obviously

666
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: interesting in them. He had a pretty good looking, you know,

667
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: first game in terms of the usage, and you know,

668
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: he's obviously talented player. But now we have this quarterback

669
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: issue in San Francisco, gonna be Mac Jones for a

670
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: month issue, kind of mentioned it at the top of

671
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: the show, fits that there's a little uncertainty about what

672
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: that exactly is going to look like. But I have

673
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: him here going head to head against you know, just

674
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: a player on the most seemingly dysfunctional and the worst

675
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: vibes team that I can ever recall seeing in Week

676
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: one in my life. And I watched the Ravens beat

677
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins fifty nine to ten in Week one

678
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: in Lamar's second season, his first year as a starter,

679
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: and I still feel like the Vibes were worse in

680
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: this Week one game than they were in twenty nineteen.

681
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: That's how just bad it looked on both sides of

682
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: the ball for Miami. So, Fitz, I'll start with you

683
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: on this one hill or Piersaal Who do you like

684
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: better this week?

685
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 3: I suspect this is going to be.

686
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: This opinion is going to put me in the minority here,

687
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: but I would play Tyreek.

688
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: I know there's a chance Piersaw.

689
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: Gets a lot of targets this week with George Kittle

690
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: out with a hamstring injury, Juan Jennings probably out with

691
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: a shoulder injury, and like, I don't think we should

692
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: be that alarmed that it's going to be mac Jones

693
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: at QB rather than brock Purty because of Perdy's toe injury.

694
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: But I also think there's a good chance Christian McCaffrey

695
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: touches the ball twenty five times and Brian Robinson touches

696
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: it a dozen times, and the forty nine ers just

697
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: try to beat a bad Saints team with a ball

698
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: control attack that mostly uses the running game and the

699
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: short passing game.

700
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 3: I'll like.

701
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: As for Tyreek, our guy deebro made some really interesting

702
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: points about him in the primer this week. So the

703
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: Dolphins pulled their starters in the fourth quarter because they

704
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: were getting steamrolled by the Colts. But in the first

705
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: three quarters, Tyreek had a twenty seven point eight percent

706
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: target share, a forty eight point two percent air yard chair,

707
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: a thirty point eight percent first read share, and he

708
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: averaged two point five yards per route run. All really

709
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: encouraging numbers. But unfortunately, you.

710
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,479
Speaker 3: Know, Tua was just awful.

711
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 2: So Tyreek Hill had like four catches for forty yards.

712
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: I don't think two is terrible, Like he led the

713
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: league in passing yardage a couple of years ago. He

714
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: just said a really, really bad game. Dolphins are back

715
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: at home. They're playing the Patriots, who've been playing without

716
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: star cornerback Christian Gonzales, and they got completely firebombed by

717
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: Gino Smith and the Raiders passing game last week.

718
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: I'm still starting Tyreek.

719
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: Hill, Jacob. I'm curious not just when you think about

720
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: these two players, you know, head to head, but what

721
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: you think about the Miami situation in general. If you

722
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: are buying into the idea that hey, this is just

723
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: like as bad as it gets in Week one, but

724
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: you know, you're so healthy, so let's give him a

725
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: chance for a bounce back, or if this is just

726
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: gonna be a lost season for them.

727
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 5: I think it could be the latter.

728
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 4: I mean, let me ask you, guys, want question, what

729
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 4: the hell did Mike McDaniel do since last January?

730
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 5: Like, what the hell did he do?

731
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 4: Because the NFL adjusted to Mike McDaniel on offense and

732
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 4: he had an entire offseason to do the same, and

733
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 4: through Week one at least, it looked like jack bleep,

734
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 4: you know what, Like there's no sugar coating it to

735
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 4: the fact of there's no excuse, like there's a reason

736
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 4: he's on the hot seat. There's a reason that Greer's

737
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 4: on the hot seat. The offense line is still a

738
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 4: question mark, and the biggest concern I have was just

739
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 4: gonna maybe even sound crazy, but it has nothing to

740
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 4: do with the players, just that I had it shove

741
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 4: Tyrek Kill under the bus, but he kind of like

742
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 4: nudged them off the corner there and saying like, you know,

743
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Not Tyrek Hill Tua about the quarterback play.

744
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 4: He kind of like walked past him, kind of like

745
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 4: bumped into him as the bus was coming by. Like

746
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 4: when you take shots at your quarterback, you're in panic mode,

747
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 4: Like your job is on the line and you're in

748
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 4: panic mode. So I am going Ricky Pearson. I don't

749
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 4: fault fits for still sticking with Tyrek Hill. Actually would

750
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 4: trade low if I could, or buy low on him.

751
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 4: I have people asking me if they should drop Jayleen Widdle.

752
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 4: There's no way on Earth I'm dropping Jalen Wattle after

753
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 4: one bad game. But I lean to what Fish said though,

754
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 4: is mac Jones supported Brian Thomas enough that Brian Thomas

755
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 4: was a top ten wide receiver. I think he can

756
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: do the same for Ricky pearsll to in this start,

757
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 4: whether or not Jennings is out there to offset the volume.

758
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 4: The one concern I think would be the floor and

759
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 4: the fifth didn't say this, but I wonder if you

760
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 4: would agree the floor would be what if mac Jones

761
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 4: locks in on healthy Juwan Jennings, Like if Joan Jennings

762
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 4: is out there and mac Jones locks in on him

763
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 4: instead of Piercal, I think that's the one risk and

764
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 4: I could see that happening if Jennings is out there.

765
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fort Niners offense in general, Like I wonder

766
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: if this is maybe like foolish of me, but I

767
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: just like I don't really care who the quarterback is,

768
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: Like I just have too much faith in Kyle Shanahan

769
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: and like we've seen him do it with with really

770
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: surprising and bad quarterbacks in the past, to the point

771
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: where like mac Jones is good enough that I'm like,

772
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: you know what, like with with Kyle Shanahan calling plays

773
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: and designing stuff, Like I think he can be enough.

774
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: And I think that's a great point on the Brian

775
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: Thomas Junior thing, how like we have seen him kind

776
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: of support you know, this really elite level receiver play

777
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: from a guy before fits. What do you make of

778
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: Jake's point about like maybe he just locks in on Jennings.

779
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be. You just that's the thing. You

780
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: just don't know how it's gonna work with Mac Jones

781
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: at the controls. That's like a little bit of my

782
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: hesitation with Pearsaw. But I think Piersall is an obvious

783
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: start this week though.

784
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to another wide receiver debate here. And

785
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: this is a player that I included in the start

786
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: sit from the waiver ad section. But I thought it

787
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: was interesting they were near each other in ECR Marky

788
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: Sprout or Roma Dunzay who you know, it wasn't the

789
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: biggest game for the Chicago passing offense in week one,

790
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: but he did catch a touchdown obviously year two, Jake,

791
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: I know Dunzay is somebody that you were really interested in.

792
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: So him here in week two of year two going

793
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: up against Hollywood Brown, Who do you prefer? Oh?

794
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 5: I got Roman doing?

795
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 4: Is I still similar to the Jamison Williams conversation. I

796
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 4: understand Hollywood Brown if you want the floor, but I

797
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 4: feel like that's all it is against the floor, And

798
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 4: I don't like the fact that he's going against the

799
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 4: Eagles again, and it has nothing to do with the

800
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 4: Super Bowl.

801
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 5: It just has to do with the fact that.

802
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 4: I'm worried about the Eagles secondary. I'm worried about the

803
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 4: fact that it's going to take ten targets to get

804
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 4: that value that we were talking about earlier, just to

805
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 4: maybe peck into wide receiver too. The guy had sixteen

806
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 4: targets and needed a big play at the end of

807
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 4: the game to get ninety nine yards, not even one

808
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 4: hundred yards. And I'm not saying things won't change this week. Obviously,

809
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 4: the game plan shifted as soon as Xavier Worthy game

810
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 4: got hurt, and maybe they use Brown downfield a little

811
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 4: bit more. Is still not the best matchup for me,

812
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 4: and I know the Detroit secondary is possibly on par

813
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 4: with the Eagles.

814
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 5: I would still give it to the Eagles.

815
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 4: I bring that up to say that the Lions are

816
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 4: concerning enough, but it gets the Packers. I don't think

817
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 4: they've showed anything where I want to say, you know what,

818
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go out there and play a Dunzay again.

819
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 4: I will admit here's the one caveat if.

820
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 5: You don't like the floor. The lower floor is clearly with.

821
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: The Dunesay yeah, fits, are you looking at this through

822
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: that same prison of like what the floor could be

823
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: in the end the ceiling, or do you have like

824
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: an easier call just in terms of you really like

825
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 1: one player versus the other.

826
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I definitely think the floor is safer

827
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: with Hollywood, Like he's going to get a huge number

828
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 2: of targets again out of.

829
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: Necessity, and but I.

830
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how long he's gonna hold up if

831
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes keeps peppering him with these short throws and

832
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: making him face tacklers who weigh one hundred pounds more

833
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: than he does. Like it seems like Hollywood is a

834
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 2: good bet for at least six or seven catches this week,

835
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: maybe more if he doesn't.

836
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 3: Get knocked out of the game.

837
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: But like Caleb Williams started off well against the Vikings

838
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: on Monday Night, but things just went off the rails

839
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: for him in the second half. And now the Bears

840
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: have to go on the road to face the Lions,

841
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: who are going to be in a really foul mood

842
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: after getting smoked by the Packers in Week one. Like,

843
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: I don't think this game is going to go well

844
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: at all for the Bears. So even though I think

845
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: the Lions are probably gonna be without Terry and Arnold

846
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: one of their cornerbacks. Like, I don't really want to

847
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: start any of the Bears this week.

848
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the rapid fire start sit

849
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: decisions here. We've got players at every position, included in

850
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: this one at running back, Isaiah Pichecko or Zach Sharboney,

851
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: who we kind of talked about from the other side

852
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: of it. In that backfield with Kenneth Walker already fits,

853
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: I'll start with you on this one, Checko or Sharbonay

854
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: this week.

855
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: Pachecko.

856
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: We just talked about the Walker Sharbonay dynamic, and I

857
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: think the balance of power in the backfield probably shifts

858
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: back towards Walker.

859
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 3: In the coming weeks.

860
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: I know pachecko investors are really freaked out that he

861
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: got five carries in Week one, but the Chiefs trail

862
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 2: by like seven to ten points for most of that game,

863
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: and Pachecko pretty much dominated the early down snaps. Yeah,

864
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt and Brishard Smith played on passing downs and

865
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: it was mostly Hunt in short yardage situations, which is annoying.

866
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,959
Speaker 2: But the bottom line is that Pachecko, I think looks

867
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: like his twenty twenty three self, not the ghost of

868
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: Isaiah Pichecko we saw last year when he came back

869
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: from the broken leg, and presumably without Rashid Rice and

870
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy this week, like the Chiefs at least have

871
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: to accomplish some sort of balance run pass on offense

872
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 2: to avoid putting too much pressure on a pretty mid

873
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 2: group of pass catchers and to avoid over exposing Mahomes

874
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: to one of the better pass rushes in the league.

875
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: So I'm going with Pachecko.

876
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: Chick, what do you think?

877
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 4: So for all the reasons until that last part, I

878
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 4: was agreeing with Fitzus and why I would go both

879
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 4: Seahawks running backs over Pachecko, I just I have legit concerns,

880
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 4: Like if you told me this game was competitive from

881
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 4: the jump out the entire way, I would agree. I

882
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 4: just don't know that the Eagles just don't gob smack them.

883
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 5: Again.

884
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 4: I just think the Eagles match up too well with

885
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 4: the Chiefs. Nothing to do with the Super Bowl. I

886
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 4: just look at every position out. I mean, honestly, I

887
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 4: was gonna say, outside of Court, you could argue Court

888
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 4: Holmes is a better quarterback. Hall of Famer Hurts will

889
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 4: be a Hall of Famer in time too. But at

890
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 4: my point, being is like position by a position. I'm

891
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 4: just gonna take the Eagles, and I'm worried that if

892
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 4: they are playing even seven points down from the first quarter,

893
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 4: that the snapcounts just going to be exactly what we

894
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 4: saw last week.

895
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 5: And that's my fear.

896
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: I am not ready to have a Jalen Hurts Hall

897
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 1: of Fame debate just given all the conversation that's gonna happen.

898
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: How much credit.

899
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 4: Anybody who doesn't have them inside the top ten, even

900
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 4: potentially top five, it's just looking for clickbait, like stop.

901
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, top ten. I totally agree, but like, no, we

902
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: don't have to get into the hall.

903
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 5: I still take your boy Lamar over them every single time.

904
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 5: Don't don't get to her.

905
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: I should, I should, I should hope, So that that's

906
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: an off season conversation we can have Hall of Fame

907
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: case for Jalen Hurts. Let's go to a receiver one here,

908
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: Sedric Cedric Tillman or Chris Alave. Jake. I'll start with

909
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: you on this one. Who do you like better? For

910
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: week two? Tilman or a Lave For.

911
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 5: Everybody that wants to come for me for Keth Walker.

912
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: Hopefully you also came with me for Cedric Tillman. Are

913
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: enjoying this ride because Cedric Tillman is here, and Cedric

914
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 4: Tillman is going to rank over Chris Olave for me

915
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 4: this week. I do think Chris Olave is a nice value.

916
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 4: I think he's very much though in the Marquis Brown

917
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 4: realm where he's going to need a ton of targets.

918
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 4: He's just going to need the volume which is there.

919
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 4: But of the two offenses, I trust more and Joe Flacco.

920
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 4: Of course, it could go Billy up in Baltimore against

921
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 4: your boys. But at the same time, I will say

922
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 4: this sounds crazy to say. I didn't check the weather

923
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 4: as of yet because I don't until Saturday. But like

924
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 4: he is Rain, I would make the switch like this

925
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 4: is a bad game for passing potential. But I do

926
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: believe that Joe Flacco is going to pass plenty against

927
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 4: the Ravens. I do think the Ravens are vulnerable as

928
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 4: we just saw in week one, And no, I'm not

929
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 4: putting Joe Flacco on the same level of those passing games.

930
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 5: But Cedric Tillman.

931
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 4: I brought this up about the Harold Fanning thing. The

932
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 4: Harold Fannin concern is not just in Joe, it's Jerry Judy.

933
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: That's similar to the Tyler Warren Josh Down situation. Is

934
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 4: they're going to involve similar areas of the field, similar usage,

935
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 4: And I just think Tilman's the answer is the one

936
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 4: for the Browns.

937
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tillman. Tilman scares me, honestly, like just as a

938
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: Ravens fan, Like it would not shock me truthfully if

939
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 1: he ends up having a like a pretty decent game,

940
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: even if you think about the Ravens as this like

941
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: tougher matchup. I mean, the best game of his you know,

942
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: career so far when he had that huge, you know

943
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: kind of run last season. The best of those games

944
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: came against the Ravens. He had seven kiss ninety nine

945
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: yards and two tous. I was in the building for

946
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: that one, so I remember you. I was in Cleveland

947
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: and he I said this a bunch last year on

948
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: the show, like the eye tests from being in the

949
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: being in that stadium. I was just like, this dude

950
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: looks like like a beast of an NFL receiver. Like

951
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's going to be really good. Obviously. Concussion

952
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: stuff and everything like that. But he torched the Ravens

953
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: last October. It would not shock me if it happened

954
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: again this week. Fits, how are you wracking this one? Tilman?

955
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: Are a lot Olave?

956
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: He hit thirteen targets last week. He's just He's going

957
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: to be such a big part of the Saints passing game.

958
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 2: And yes, it's one of the worst passing games in

959
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: the league, but Olave is probably the best thing about it.

960
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: I like Tilman, he's a player on the rise. But

961
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: like I talked about this in the offseason, how Olave's

962
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 2: yards per route run for his career is right up

963
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: there with like Jamar Chase and CD Lamb. Like, Olave

964
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: is just in a different class than Cedric Tillman.

965
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: I've got a handful of flex questions here, David Montgomery

966
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 1: or in Mecca ag Buka coming off his great first

967
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: game in his NFL debut. Fit's starting with you on

968
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: this one, Montgomery or Agbuca this week?

969
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I've got ag Buka fever two, but

970
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: I'm going with Monty here. I just think the Lions

971
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: are going to crush the Bears, and the Detroit running

972
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: game is gonna have a.

973
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: Big day, Jake.

974
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 4: This is a pure do you want the floor versus

975
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 4: the upside? So Montgomery vacuum Montgomery, but if you need

976
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 4: the higher ceiling, I still think that love is with Buka,

977
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 4: even in a tougher matchup.

978
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, coming off that first week,

979
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Chris Godwin is like starting practice again. He's

980
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: not gonna be back for a few weeks still, but

981
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: you know he will be back eventually in some level

982
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: of you know, health, like Buka. For you guys, coming

983
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: off that week one, where is the rest of season

984
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: amongst receiver rankings.

985
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 4: I thought you were going to ask if sell high

986
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: and I was gonna say yes immediately. It's not the

987
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 4: fact that I don't believe in Abuka. It's just I

988
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 4: believe Mike Evans is a great by low. I believe

989
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 4: that Chris Godwin is going to be a factor. But

990
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 4: kind of more of like it's gonna be a thorn

991
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 4: for everybody, is that when we have a good comparison,

992
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 4: will be like Tyler Boyd in the years with the Bengals, somebody,

993
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 4: even as valuable as Tyler Boyd's best season was still

994
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 4: only wide receiver forty. Somebody is going to have to

995
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 4: take a back ish seat. Could it be Godwin? Absolutely,

996
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 4: but could it also be a Buka?

997
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 5: Sure.

998
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 4: I don't think the issue here is I don't think

999
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 4: it's gonna be Mike Evans. I think Mike Evans is

1000
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 4: locked in no matter what. So that's why I say

1001
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 4: sell high, because everybody's going nuts for him right now

1002
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 4: and deservedly so. But if you can get wide receiver

1003
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 4: one value, I wouldn't put him in the wide receiver

1004
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 4: one conversation. I would put him in a group with

1005
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 4: like Davante Adams and your boys A Flowers. So like

1006
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 4: still back end wide receiver two for me?

1007
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: Fits what do you think rest of the season?

1008
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: Wide receiver twenty seven?

1009
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: There you go, god I'm not really worried about Godwin

1010
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 2: displacing him, honestly.

1011
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to another flex here. DK Metcalf versus

1012
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: Travon Henderson, two guys that we actually we talked about

1013
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: both of them last week on the show, but not

1014
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: going up against each other. So now after seeing them

1015
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: in these you know one is a rookie won in

1016
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: a new offense for this year one week in who

1017
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: do we like better? For week two? I fits I'll

1018
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: start with you on this one, Henderson or Metcalf.

1019
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 2: Metcalf like his ECR this week is wide Receiver eighteen,

1020
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: which seems a little too high for me, but I

1021
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: could still flex him over Henderson. I'm pro Henderson, but

1022
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: we have to acknowledge the reality that Henderson was out

1023
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 2: snapped by Ramondre Stevenson forty six to twenty five in

1024
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: Week one, and Henderson doesn't necessarily need a big snapshare

1025
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: to make his fantasy quota in any given week, but

1026
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: a thirty five percent snapchare Like, I'm not playing a

1027
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: guy with a thirty five percent snapchair over in alpha receiver.

1028
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: The I'm curious if you agree with what I'm about

1029
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: to say, Jake, But the reason that I would like

1030
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: consider leaning Henderson here even despite that snapshare, is just that, like,

1031
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: I think there's a real chance that Miami is just

1032
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: the defense to target this season, and like, I don't

1033
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: just start any player who's even remotely worth considering starting.

1034
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: Maybe that's an overreaction to Week one, but I just

1035
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: thought it was like the type of game that really

1036
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: sets the tone for the season, and I will be

1037
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: very happy to start oposing players against him. What do

1038
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: you think Henderson or Metcalf.

1039
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 4: So I'm chuckling for two reasons, as one is I

1040
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 4: Henderson barely in front of Metcalf, and then two, I'm

1041
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 4: wondering if the Fits and I are ever going to

1042
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 4: agree the rest of the way. We're kind of the

1043
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 4: opposite sides here. I'm a little bit more with you,

1044
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 4: not just because of the Dolphins offense and look like

1045
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 4: this is going to come for a slight for Patriots fans.

1046
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 4: But maybe I'm giving Vrabel and mcdaine was too much

1047
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 4: credit here, But they had to see the same thing

1048
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 4: we saw in week one, right, there was no question

1049
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 4: who the best running back and one of the best

1050
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 4: talents for their offense on the field was If I'll

1051
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 4: put it this way, if you are correct, Fits, and

1052
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 4: it's the fact that the snapshare does stay at thirty

1053
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 4: five forty percent for Henderson, there is something wrong in

1054
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 4: the heads of Rabel and McDaniels. There is no reason

1055
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 4: this should repeat in week two, just like there's one

1056
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 4: coming up with another running back that should not repeat

1057
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 4: in week two.

1058
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: The next starts a decision here is Dylan Sampson or

1059
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle. Starting with you on this one.

1060
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 5: Jake Sampson, My boy, I have way too many browns

1061
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 5: this year.

1062
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 4: I can't believe I'm like riding with so many browns

1063
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 4: in my fantasy leagues.

1064
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 5: It comes down to like it wasn't just.

1065
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 4: The eight for eight and one of the leading receiving

1066
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 4: options is Oh, by the way, they're going against the Ravens,

1067
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 4: which you expect to have to pass Judkins. As of today,

1068
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 4: we still don't even know. And even if he's out there,

1069
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 4: how much is going to be involved. And even if

1070
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 4: he is involved, even if he's the clear leader in

1071
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 4: Jerome Ford doesn't get a touch, who is still Austin

1072
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 4: Ackler on this offense?

1073
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 5: Dylan Samson.

1074
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 4: I am going to ride Dylan Samson until the wheels

1075
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 4: fall off.

1076
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: Fits I'm going waddle And look, we're still having I know,

1077
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,959
Speaker 2: Jake and I disagreeing the entire way. Like, I don't

1078
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: think the Miami offense will be as bad as it

1079
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: was last week, and maybe the team in general, like

1080
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: Matt Perrault of Betting Pros our Betting Pros host, Like

1081
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: he pointed out, Miami has been really good at home

1082
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: early in the season, and maybe part of it is

1083
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 2: that like it gets it gets cooking down in Miami

1084
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Speaker 2: in early September, and I think the Dolphins somehow have

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00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: it configured that the visiting team has to be in

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00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: the bench on the Sun side of the fields like

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Speaker 2: the entire game. So like Miami's record is really good,

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00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: I think they have a better game this week. The

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00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: last time Waddle faced New England was Week twelve last season.

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Speaker 2: Easily Waddle's best game of the year. Eight catches, one

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00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: hundred and forty four yards in touchdown. I don't want

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00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 2: to start a Browns running back against.

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Speaker 5: The Ravens mostly as of today, mostly cloudy and rainy

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Speaker 5: for Sunday fast. Has that change your opinion?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I know, I don't think the Ravens have that

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00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: stronger run defense this year. They lost Michael Pierce, Like

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Speaker 1: I thought it was the part of the defense that

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00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: was most likely to struggle. Obviously, Week one, Josh Allen

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00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: torched the secondary. He's Josh Allen, so like, you know,

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Speaker 1: who knows what that's gonna look like going forward. But

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Speaker 1: I need to see more from the Ravens defense to

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Speaker 1: be like wanting to avoid them with running backs and

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Speaker 1: particularly pass catching running backs. Like I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton's very good against screens. I don't know if

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00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: this defense as a whole is very good against screens.

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00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: At least it hasn't been in recent years. So like

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00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: any kind of pass catching back, like Dylan Sampson coming

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00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: off a game where he caught eight passes, it would

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00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: not surprise me if he actually has a pretty good

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Speaker 1: day in any type of half PPR or PPR format.

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Speaker 1: And I also just I mean fit. You know, I

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Speaker 1: loved Sampson in the draft process, and I loved the fit,

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00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: especially with Judkins not being around. So I kind of

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00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: just want to ride Sampson until he gives me a

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00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: reason not to.

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00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: Honestly, you voluntarily brought up the Ravens bills, Cam. I

1117
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: guess the healing has begun.

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Speaker 1: Just yesterday, I started listening to some of the recap

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00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 1: shows that I've been putting off for a few days

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00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: because I needed to emotionally recover from it. You know,

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00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: it's a lot of season, all right. You know, a

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00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: lost in Week one doesn't kill him. So that was

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00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: a tough few days for me. Let's go to another

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00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: flex and get off that game as quickly as possible.

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00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman or r J. Harvey this week fits.

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00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: I'll start with you, all right, let's see if Jake

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00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 2: and I can finally find a love connection here. We

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00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: should not be on the newly would newly wedded yeah together,

1129
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: because we would not win.

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00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go r J. Harvey.

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00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 2: I hate that he only had a twenty nine percent

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00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: snapshare against the Titans last week, but we saw the

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00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: big play potentially in a fifty yard run where it

1134
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: looked like he was shot out of a freaking cannon.

1135
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 2: And I don't want to play any quarterback or wide

1136
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 2: receiver against the Broncos unless it's a star level guy.

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00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 2: The Denver pass defense is just too nasty. Best in

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00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: the league, Jake, we barely agree this time.

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00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 4: Finally, Yeah, go flip it over. And this is who

1140
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 4: I was alluding to. A Trevion Henderson is you clearly

1141
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 4: need to get the ball to RJ. Harvey Moore, and

1142
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 4: I know Sean Payton is going to do Sean Payton

1143
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 4: things as he does use multiple running backs, hell rotate

1144
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 4: his wide receivers. On top of it, Miss Marvin Mimms

1145
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 4: was disappointing. Maybe we should be looking at Troy Franklin,

1146
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 4: or maybe he goes back again and switches it all

1147
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 4: up because he's Sean Payton. But the one thing I

1148
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 4: do know is that he knows enough to get the

1149
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 4: best out of his running backs, and I think he's

1150
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 4: going to give more touches to Harvey this week.

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00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: All right, I want to do a quarterback one and

1152
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: a tight end one to wrap things up. We'll start

1153
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: with the quarterback one. How about Patrick Mahomes versus Drake May.

1154
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: They are both ranked very highly this week as QB ones.

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00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: I had it up YSA. I want to see if

1156
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: it's moved at all. I believe they were QB ten

1157
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: and QB eleven when I last look thees QB nine,

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00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: and now Mahomes is at QB nine, May is at

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00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: QB ten. But I think it's very possible there are

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00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: teams out here who have Mahomes as their starter when

1161
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: they drafted, and then Drake May is their backup. So

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00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: with them being back to back here in the rankings,

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00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: I wanted to throw them in there. Fits. I'll start

1164
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: with you, Mahomes or May.

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00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: I've got Mahomes ranked one spot higher. I don't like

1166
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: that his passing, his pass catching, weaponry is so depleted.

1167
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: But Mahomes is still a great quarterback. We saw him

1168
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: run pretty aggressively last week against the Chargers. I can't

1169
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 2: wait to see how Drake May plays against the Dolphins

1170
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: because Miami blitzed at the highest rate in the league

1171
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 2: in Week one, and obviously it didn't work out very

1172
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 2: well against the Colts. So a big game is definitely

1173
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: in play for Drake May. But if he's not as

1174
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: far along as we hope and doesn't handle the blitz

1175
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: well like maybe as a terrible game. So I think

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00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: Mahomes is probably just a little safer.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Jacob?

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00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 4: We disagree again, Yeah, it just comes. It's the safer

1179
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 4: I don't disagree with. It's the rushing up side that

1180
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 4: it continues to vault May with the higher ceiling at quarterback.

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00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 4: And again I keep going back to this Eagles matchup,

1182
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 4: and you know, maybe Mahlmes flips it, maybe he's pulling

1183
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 4: it like what we've seen from the greats. He's figured

1184
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 4: out enough and he's seen enough of the Eagles that

1185
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 4: it's finally you can see what I do now this week.

1186
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 4: But I still feel like the ceilings with May, they're

1187
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 4: very close too.

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00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 5: I have him back to back as.

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00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: Well, tight end TJ. Hockinson or Kyle Pitts JQ do

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00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 1: you have here if TJ.

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00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 4: Hockinson couldn't do it with no Jordan Asen, Like, how

1192
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 4: worried are we going to be when he finally comes

1193
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 4: back in two more games? And I just bring that

1194
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 4: up to say, like, why not go after Kyle Pitts

1195
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 4: like it happened a week one And for everybody out

1196
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 4: there that maybe didn't watch the game, I.

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Speaker 5: Kyle Pitts hasn't changed.

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00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 4: He still can't separate. He's still not great in his routes.

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Speaker 4: But the one thing they did in week one that

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00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 4: I liked is, by the way, oh you have this

1201
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 4: athletic matchup problem. He basically played power forward. He was

1202
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 4: leaning into him and spinning off the coverage. It wasn't

1203
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 4: like he was a great separator. So he's still Kyle Pitts.

1204
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 4: It's just they're kind of figuring this out like, hey,

1205
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 4: maybe we don't ask him to run routes where he

1206
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 4: doesn't separate, So the potential that we don't have London

1207
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 4: or Mooney or both. I think that Kyle Pits is

1208
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 4: in play, and I go back to like I said

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00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 4: about TJ. Hoginson, who, by the way, wasn't even barely

1210
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 4: involved in that amazing fourth quarter by JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: Fits. Do you like Hockinson or Kyle Pitts.

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00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jake nailed it.

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00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: I mean Pitts seven catches for fifty nine yards on

1214
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: eight targets last week. Hockkinson three for fifteen on four targets.

1215
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: I'm not basing this solely on last week's results, but

1216
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts is probably more essential to his team's passing

1217
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 2: game right now than Hawk is to his, especially if

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00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: Darnel Mooney is out again for the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: guys will wrap things up with our touchdown calls contest.

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00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 1: I am on running back, Jake Is on receiver fits

1229
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: good luck with tight end. I'm going with Chase Brown.

1230
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 1: I kind of think he's just gonna score a touchdown

1231
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: like almost every week, just the way I expect this

1232
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: offense to operate whenever they get in close. I think

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00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: they're going to run with Chase Brown and give him

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00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: an opportunity at least a few times a game. So

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00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: not that I don't have the same level conviction that

1236
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: I did like a year ago with like Derek Henry

1237
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: is scoring a touch on every game, but I kind

1238
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: of think Chase Brown might get something close to that,

1239
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: like the way I expect him to get used this year.

1240
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with Chase Brown here for a

1241
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: running back, Jake, could you have it wide receiver?

1242
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1243
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 4: I could take the layup with you more Chase and

1244
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 4: bounce back. That would be super easy. But I'm not

1245
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 4: gonna do that. I'm gonna go a little bit deeper

1246
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 4: and actually outside top twenty twenty five wide receivers and

1247
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 4: George Pickens to do it against the Giants. I think

1248
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott is going to come on strong this game

1249
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 4: as Dak Prosscott was to do against the Giants, but.

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Speaker 5: Also looking at the secondary.

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00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 4: I know they added a debu, but that was because

1252
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 4: Banks has been so disappointing that got kicked a second

1253
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 4: or third depending on how they want to use it.

1254
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 4: And that's the big thing is Slam can do his

1255
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 4: thing anywhere, but if you're looking for the opportunity for

1256
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 4: those big plays and picks to take, you basically control

1257
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 4: that secondary covers that he's gonna face. I think this

1258
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 4: could be like the pickens that we hope to see

1259
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 4: when he was signing with the count or trade to

1260
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 4: the Cowboys and then signed. I think this is one

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00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 4: hundred and a touchdown potential.

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Speaker 1: So we know that based on last week, Jake and

1263
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: I are going to hit this because running back and

1264
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: receiver are easy fits. Can you be the first one

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00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,479
Speaker 1: to hit a tight end touchdown call this year?

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00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: Tall order and I'm gonna go with kind of an

1267
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 2: unconventional choice here, Brenton Strange. He had four catches for

1268
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: fifty nine yards for the Jaguars last week, and I

1269
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 2: think he has another good game Sunday against the Bengals

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00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 2: defense that really gives it up to tight ends.

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Speaker 1: All right, So we got Chase Brown, George Pickens, and

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Speaker 1: Brenton Strange as our picks in the Touchdown Calls contest.

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