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Speaker 1: into this week's episode, let's do a little housekeeping. Okay,

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Speaker 1: This that Saturday, I had the incredible opportunity to be

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Speaker 1: a part of Charlotte Mayne's Mental Wealth Expo, and it

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Speaker 1: was truly an unforgettable experience. I had the privilege of

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Speaker 1: discussing my coloring books and conducting a whole workshop on

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Speaker 1: the importance of honoring your inner child, and y'all, it

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Speaker 1: was truly rewarding. Like I had the pleasure of meeting

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Speaker 1: many new individuals, both professional homegirls and some really amazing

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Speaker 1: stand up men, and my heart is just overflowing with gratitude.

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Speaker 1: I want to express my sincere thanks to all of

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Speaker 1: you for your love and support, and I am so

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Speaker 1: excited for us to link up really soon. Also, for

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Speaker 1: those of you that hit me up asking me if

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Speaker 1: I was okay, because y'all can tell that I was

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Speaker 1: sick in the previous episodes, I am much better now.

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Speaker 1: I did have COVID, but I am good now. So

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for checking on the kid Now

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Speaker 1: and this week's episode, we welcome back a special guest

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Speaker 1: for the third time.

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Speaker 2: I am a paranormal.

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Speaker 1: Investigator, and together we dive deep into the rim of

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Speaker 1: all things paranormal. Our conversation covers the latest trends in

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Speaker 1: paranormal activities, the importance of safety and investigations, the intriguing

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Speaker 1: topic of spiritual warfare, and so much more. This episode

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Speaker 1: is a part of My Spooky Series, So get ready

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Speaker 1: to immerse yourself and the eerie and mysterious as we

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Speaker 1: kick off this week's episode starting now. So to my guests,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for being a part.

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Speaker 2: Of the show again.

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Speaker 3: Yes you're welcome.

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Speaker 1: So to the baddest ghost bust out there. How you feeling?

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Speaker 1: How you doing that?

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Speaker 4: I am doing wonderful. I am so happy to be

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Speaker 4: back on here.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, y'all we have.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be her third conversation with me

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Speaker 1: on because I'm like, how can I do the Spooky

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Speaker 3: Oh goodness, you can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't I do it without means right, So before

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Speaker 1: you begin, let's catch up. So it's been a little

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Speaker 1: over year since the last time we spoke, and I'm

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Speaker 1: feeling to get my hands on your second book. So,

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Speaker 1: how has that been coming along?

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Speaker 3: You know what it's been.

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Speaker 4: It's been coming along pretty good. There's a couple of

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Speaker 4: parts of the book that I had to shift around,

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Speaker 4: and I was looking forward to releasing it before Halloween

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Speaker 4: so it could be like by New By Halloween seasonal release.

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Speaker 4: So I was a little disappointed that it didn't get

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Speaker 4: that opportunity to release because I had some traumatic things

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Speaker 4: happen this year. But it's still it's still some emotion

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Speaker 1: So last time you were very tight lip about some

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Speaker 1: of the details in the second book. But since we

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Speaker 1: are family and we key key, what can you tell us?

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Speaker 4: Just a little well, okay, So if you had an

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Speaker 4: opportunity to read the first book, Ten Feet Under, trying

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Speaker 4: to know a little bit about the journey, and that

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Speaker 4: ghost encounters. So this is the adult version of what

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Speaker 4: I do. It encompasses my investigations, it also encompasses other

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Speaker 4: journeys and research that I've done currently with my investigations

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Speaker 3: So you know, one interesting.

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Speaker 4: Thing that I will share about the book that kind

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Speaker 3: People were wanting to know what was under the house.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, because you said it was buried ten feet

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, So underneath this house there was a it's

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Speaker 4: And there was an owner by the name of Charles

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Speaker 4: Jeffries that purchased thirty three hundred acres of land in

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Speaker 4: Lot that my house was, on, the neighbor's house, the

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Speaker 3: State that was last to abolish slavery. I don't know

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Speaker 2: Know that history class. Come on, now, if y'all.

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Speaker 2: So well, you know, anything with us is unspoken town.

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Speaker 3: So anything that these slave owners.

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Speaker 4: And they did that because they knew that there was

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Speaker 4: unmarked raves beneath there. So they went any lower than

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Speaker 4: So through this day there are bones buried underneath these houses,

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Speaker 2: Can you lean the spirits for being mad?

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Speaker 3: They're being disturbed. First, they were disturbed period as humans.

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Speaker 4: Then their bodies were desecrated and put in these unmarked raves,

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Speaker 4: why are we surprised that they're disturbing me? Everything else

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Speaker 1: Right, it's shocking, you know what I just thought about.

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Speaker 1: So the conversation that came out before this one, she

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Speaker 1: And I'm just thinking to myself, like, do the spirits

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Speaker 1: like just choose who they want to be a part

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Speaker 1: I'm just starting to see a correlation between living in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, there's so many questions that I've had

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Speaker 4: A person's a person's individual journey. So that particular house

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Speaker 3: Her husband committed suicide, Like there was a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she is black. She is a mother, she had

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Speaker 3: No, she was a married woman, had a husband, had children.

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Speaker 4: a decent neighborhood. Yeah, we classified it as you know,

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Speaker 4: the jeffessis moving on up. So when they moved in

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Speaker 3: She went through was very similar to what we experienced.

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Speaker 1: And I'm assuming her husband committed suicide because of all

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Speaker 4: Yes, because and it's kind of like to circle back

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Speaker 4: around your initial question, because some people are more sensitive

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Speaker 2: Yeah delo line.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so it impacted him much more deeper than

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Speaker 3: it did hurt. But you know, even and then there

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Speaker 3: a lot more than the dark.

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Speaker 4: So it was just he would wake up and have

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Speaker 4: like it was. It was a traumatic journey for her family.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's why I can't wait for the second book

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Speaker 1: and we can have home for the next the next

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it'll be ready way before then.

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Speaker 4: So it's gonna be a lot of stuff that's getting

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Speaker 4: released next year. Like a lot of stuff that I've

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Speaker 4: been working on it, it'll be getting released next year.

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Speaker 1: So how has your perspective on the paranormal involved since

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Speaker 1: you first started investigating and have there been any significant

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Speaker 4: Yes, my perspective when it comes to the paranormal, you know,

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Speaker 4: it has expanded. You know, I go into anything again

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Speaker 2: You're not doing this by yourself, are you?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Because I don't want to expires you. They're gonna be like, oh,

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Speaker 3: We've got to get her back in here and miss

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Speaker 3: k right, iron Cake, don't try to do something freak

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Speaker 2: Know what's so funny? I asked the ghost hunter this question.

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Speaker 3: You know what? Yes?

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Speaker 2: She said no, but you.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you I think that they do.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a different kind of sexual connection that

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Speaker 4: They had an orgasm. And I was like, wow, like

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Speaker 3: And you know, I did detect energies in her house,

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Speaker 4: Yes, they were taking over her body. People kept telling

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Speaker 3: You got an energy for which energy for in my

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Speaker 2: Did she enjoy the one that.

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Speaker 2: Did she enjoy?

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Speaker 3: You know what? I guess she did, because you keep

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Speaker 3: it might be the same kind of stimulation. Give it

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Speaker 2: If you have a work out, you know, most of

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Speaker 5: So stimulation, I'm telling you, and I could. I could

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Speaker 4: I can see them manipulating a person buddy taking over them.

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Speaker 3: Know, energy into energy. It creates a different type of

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Speaker 1: And the reason why I asked because I feel like

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Speaker 3: Yes, and you know, I've seen this. I want to say.

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Speaker 4: It's I think it's like a preview to a movie

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Speaker 3: Because they can possess you, I've been I've been overcome

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Speaker 1: You know, I want to talk to you about spiritual warfare,

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Speaker 1: Y'all right, So last time we spoke, you mentioned that

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Speaker 4: I will say that seventy percent of those investigations are residential,

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Speaker 4: So when I come to your house and I can

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So now I help other people, you know, make a

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Speaker 1: So have you noticed any trends or patterns and the

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm hearing a lot more people say they hear

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Speaker 3: A lot of people are starting to say.

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Speaker 4: Their animals are acting up a lot more, and their animals, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: You know in the episode My Mother and Our Sisters,

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and that was the noise that I heard

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Speaker 3: That can physically harm you.

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Speaker 4: So that's been a heightened and a lot of the

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Speaker 3: People are like, well, how do I how is it me?

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Speaker 4: Am I possessed? Because I'm hearing this? And then not

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Speaker 4: It just it just depends on how that energy is

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00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 4: able to manipulate you individually.

446
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 3: Right, But a lot of a lot of families are

447
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 3: important growlly and larger energies in their house.

448
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 1: So how do you stay up to date with the

449
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: latest developments and research in this field because besides you

450
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: being the baddest ghostbuster, you do have a life, you

451
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: have a family.

452
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, So there's a lot and as I've gone through

453
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 4: and network with a lot of different other organizations and

454
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 4: parapsychologists pair investigators, there's a lot of resources out there,

455
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 4: even to the open to the public, that you can

456
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 4: stay connected and updated with everything that's going on. Being

457
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 4: out in the field is the best way for me

458
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,479
Speaker 4: to stay connected and updated with everything that's going on,

459
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 4: because it every investigation teaches me something new with what

460
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 4: we're dealing with. So I take that.

461
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: And I document, and I know I have files all

462
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 3: of them. I got two computers, so I got two

463
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 3: computers with files and documents and archives of investigation. So

464
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 3: I try to I'll.

465
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 4: Notake the similarities and investigations and I'll put them in

466
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 4: a specific file together and I'll loate document the patterns

467
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 4: that I'm seeing with each each location. Each if it's

468
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 4: in a different state, you know, connection if it's in

469
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 4: the earth, if it's in the suburban area, if it's

470
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 4: in the hood, you know, if it's in.

471
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 3: A rural area, Like I'm documenting all of.

472
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 4: That, and I'm using these connections and this this mapping

473
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 4: and seeing if other investigators are are making the same connections.

474
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 4: You know, it can be a very time to assuming.

475
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 4: I will sit down here in my computer for hours. Yeah, researching, documenting.

476
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 4: The best part about my fine family dynamic is my

477
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 4: kids are older. Like I got daughters in their twenties,

478
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 4: and then my youngest daughters eighteen, and then my son

479
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 4: is sixteen.

480
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 3: So they give me my keys.

481
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: You know, she looked like she in her twenties herself, y'all.

482
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all, she looks like an Instagram daddy, you know.

483
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 3: And it's so funny when you see me and my

484
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 3: daughters together. My oldest started to hear tomorrow because we're

485
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 3: going to Bonce concert.

486
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I went. It was amazing.

487
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 1: I thought that, Yes, I cried. I think I cried

488
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: like multiple times.

489
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 4: My daughter she she's this will be her first concert

490
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 4: and she gets to see her her favorite person.

491
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: So we got to get all that.

492
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 4: They had to teach me about the whole mute thing,

493
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 4: like I didn't know about.

494
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 2: The don't get cursed out child please.

495
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 3: I know what me and my daughters have been rehearsing it.

496
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 4: They'll call me randomly and they'll be like, Mom, I'm

497
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 4: everybody go on mute, And I just be like.

498
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: Yes, not us going on mute.

499
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 3: Okay, I got it. I can shake my mouth for

500
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: a little bit and handle that. I can. Yeah, but

501
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 3: that that's the and and not everybody is fortunate enough

502
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 3: to have, you know, older children or older adults to

503
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 3: where it doesn't interfere as much. And I've taken my kid, well,

504
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 3: not my younger kids, but my older daughters.

505
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 4: I've taken them on journeys and investigations with me, you know,

506
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 4: because I didn't want to take them they were just teenagers, so.

507
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 3: I didn't want to meet them with my oldest, my

508
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 3: second oldest charter she was. She was like, I'm going

509
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 3: with you, mom. Yeah. So it's easy to do what

510
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: I do and to do the research because I have

511
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 3: such a strong, supportive, healthy family dynamic.

512
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,239
Speaker 1: And you know, it's so crazy because like when I

513
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: look at you and obviously like we follow each other,

514
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 1: we stay in contact, like I know you're a busy person,

515
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: and I'm just thinking to myself, like, yo, work life

516
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: balance gotta be difficult because I feel like and correct

517
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. A lot of the research, the hours,

518
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: the locations, everything just varies like it's never constant.

519
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's it's crazy in my world. And I

520
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 4: was actually working two jobs. And I'm a claim adjuster,

521
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 4: so I'm a sacrament adjuster, So I investigate houses for damages.

522
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 4: The irony of everything, but I investigate house damages, go

523
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: and do field inspections, climbing and addicts and basements and

524
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 4: all that. So it's so funny that I do that

525
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 4: as a career with investigations. So so I was working

526
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 4: two projects and that was exhausting. Yeah, and that having

527
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 4: to get off work, Like I was sitting here at

528
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 4: my computer right now, having to get off work, start

529
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 4: work at six blogging the one, start the other job

530
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 4: at eight blogging the both for those, get off at

531
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 4: four thirty on one, get off of seven on the other,

532
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 4: and then start everything else after that. Yeah, it's a

533
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: lot of work. And so I'll get off I'll start

534
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 4: an start research and investigation, and I try to plan

535
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 4: the research for whatever investigation I do at least three

536
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 4: or four days in advance because I have to research the area,

537
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 4: the history of the land, and I have to go

538
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 4: to some Sometimes I got to go out to like

539
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 4: historical facilities and get insight in archives right because it's

540
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 4: not always readily available to the public, so that could

541
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 4: be very time consuming. And then still trying to be

542
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: a mom because I know my kids are older, but

543
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 4: they still need.

544
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 3: Their mom right.

545
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 4: So I'm just trying to balance that. And then recently

546
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 4: I had took on a new project. You may have seen.

547
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 4: I did my very first production of a murder mystery dinner.

548
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that was It was fenomination, oh gosh.

549
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 4: So there are not very many murder missed. People don't

550
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 4: know what a murder mystery dinner is. It's kind of

551
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 4: like the game of Clue to stay around, like who

552
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 4: does who killed who?

553
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: So I was just sitting around one day and I

554
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 3: was talking to my girlfriend and I was like, you

555
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 3: know what, I want to go to a murder mystery

556
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: dinner that.

557
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 4: Has black people, that has black that has black actors,

558
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 4: because I've never seen it with all black actors.

559
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 3: So and I was looking for some in Kansas City.

560
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 4: I was looking some for some within like a two

561
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 4: hour radius from where I live at couldn't find any.

562
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: Was Kansas City.

563
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 4: No, not here, girl, not at all.

564
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 3: So I was like, I want to find one with

565
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: black actors. So I started searching.

566
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 4: I couldn't find one, and I was like, you know,

567
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 4: like write a play writing murder mystery girl.

568
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 3: And I had just.

569
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 4: Started writing, and I started writing the whole script.

570
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 3: The funny thing is I wrote one script didn't use it.

571
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: I didn't even use that. It was called Murdered Mama's Mansion.

572
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: I practice, I said, I come up with something that

573
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: don't really pull people in.

574
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: So I went to sleep one day, woke up and

575
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 4: I said, you know, this has got to be a

576
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 4: really smooth murder mystery dinner.

577
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 3: I needed to be smooth and go. That's when the

578
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: name came, A smooth criminal murder Mystery Dinner d M

579
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: on the energy of microgens.

580
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: Right.

581
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: So I started.

582
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 4: I didn't even I just said I wanted to do it.

583
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 4: And then I said I wanted you to have all

584
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: black actors. And then I started reaching out to people.

585
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 4: Certain people were certain, you know, that fit certain characters.

586
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 4: I didn't even have the characters you have.

587
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: But that's the way I told people, you just have

588
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: to start start something.

589
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 3: We do it. Yeah, you just do it. You don't

590
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: think about it. Don't think about about it too hard.

591
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: You need to do it, Just do it, yeah.

592
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 4: And then you just you'll be sitting back like I

593
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 4: just literally wrote a whole script, hired eight actors, yeah,

594
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 4: purchased the venue and.

595
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: We hadn't a made. It was four hundred close to

596
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: four hundred people.

597
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: And that is another business for you.

598
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 4: This was completely different from my investigation, different from this

599
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 4: was completely different. It was it's under Ghostlink Productions and

600
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 4: there's Ghostlin TV. That's the hub of my investigation and research.

601
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 4: For now it's THO Slink Productions. So almost four hundred

602
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 4: people came.

603
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: No, that's amazing.

604
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 3: Past Sunday. This past Sunday, it was absolutely amazing.

605
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 4: It was inspired by Michael Jackson's Smooth Criminal. We had

606
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 4: three different synchronized choreographed dances.

607
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: That we did.

608
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 3: One of the people that I hired, she was a choreographer.

609
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: So it was so dope.

610
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: I go to the next copy.

611
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: If I can come to the next one next year,

612
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm going to try to come because that

613
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: was I used to love Clue.

614
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, it was so it was so dope.

615
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 4: Everybody's like, we need to do another one in two months.

616
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: I said, well, calm down.

617
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me.

618
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 4: You know, you know how sometimes you just want to

619
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 4: give people a taste of something and let's let them

620
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 4: want it, you know. So I said, let me, let

621
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 4: me give myself some time because I got so much

622
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 4: other stuff for him.

623
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: All right, no I don't know and have this.

624
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: And that was dope, but that was an interesting thing.

625
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 4: So that took a little bit of time away from

626
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 4: investigations and things like that.

627
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: So I also designed a whole set in my actually

628
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: two sets.

629
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 4: I designed an interview set so people could come and

630
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 4: tell me their stories on camera, and I started recording.

631
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 4: So I've had so far five interviews before and they

632
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 4: have been amazing, just the story.

633
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: I feel like people would feel even more comfortable with

634
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: you because I also feel like there's not a space

635
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: where people of color can come and like talk how

636
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: we talk, but also be expressing themselves. And then people know,

637
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: like this is what I experienced.

638
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 3: Yes, it's a safe haven.

639
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 4: It's a safe space for them to come and and

640
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 4: I set that platform up and I set up everything

641
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 4: that I have because I want people to be comfortable

642
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 4: having these conversations about what their experiences are and not

643
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 4: feel judged ridiculed. You know or looked down on. So

644
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 4: I've had I've had and.

645
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: It's been very diverse the people that have been coming.

646
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 4: There's been a guy who was born and uh, he

647
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 4: was born out in Hawaii. I forgot the actual territory.

648
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 4: And then there's there was a white guy that came.

649
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 4: There's a couple of black guys that came. There's a

650
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 4: black girl that came. There was a family that came

651
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 4: that then they were black and they were here in

652
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: Kansas City and Levelworth. So they came in their share

653
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 4: they shared their ghost stories.

654
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 3: And it's just so amazing and they're just like, oh,

655
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: pretty good. I'm so happy you came up with this.

656
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 3: Now you can share it.

657
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: So then, what are your thoughts on the recent findings

658
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: of et Cousin et cousin.

659
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: You're talking about the extraterrestrial stuff.

660
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I have.

661
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 4: Been spilmfeeding people about this for over a year now.

662
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you have, I remember we talked about it.

663
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been spilmfeeding people this.

664
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 4: This was built into a Simulus package to release these

665
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 4: archives and it's been out there and I'm starting to

666
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 4: find a lot of the similarities and connections with the

667
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 4: paranormal question tathology. There's there's some similarities because even with

668
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 4: even with extraterrestrials or they call them UAPs unidentified aerial

669
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 4: phenomena or UFOs, even with those, they're still comprised of energy, right,

670
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 4: So so with a lot of people starting to see

671
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 4: these taller energies and these taller figures, the description of

672
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 4: them is very similar to an extraterrestrial and so that

673
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: that's why I'm like, I got to map out these

674
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 4: relationships and connections to see how these energies are flowing

675
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 4: together because there's no coincidence and a lot of the

676
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 4: things that are starting to unfold with all of these

677
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 4: science there have been a numerous amount of sidings that

678
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 4: have started to unveil ever since the release of that

679
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 4: new stimulus package because they were like, you know what,

680
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 4: something's about to happen, and that's what I'm thinking to

681
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 4: something is disrupting and the government is in a position

682
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 4: to where it's like we can't hold it. They're gonna know,

683
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 4: they're gonna be They're gonna.

684
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 3: Have these sidings.

685
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 4: So there's been an nflux of sidings and I actually

686
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 4: developed the set downstairs in my basement, so I can

687
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 4: start talking about all of these uap UFO sidings, right

688
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 4: and work connections in the location.

689
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: What do you think is about to happen?

690
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 3: You said, what do I think is about the happening?

691
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, give us a hazle.

692
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is my, my, my, my hypothesis on what's

693
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: going on. So you ever seen the movie Men in Black?

694
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 4: Right, all these aliens, these terrestrials that are trying to

695
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 4: reform and reprogram themselves and reidentify themselves as humans and

696
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 4: walk amongst us. So they have the ability to be

697
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 4: that strong of an energy to where they can manipulate

698
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 4: their physical appearance.

699
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: So fucking crazy.

700
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 4: They're They're starting to become more active and visible in

701
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 4: in in the world, all over the world. So they're okay.

702
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 4: I had went on an interview and we were on

703
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 4: a discussion panel and there was an there was a

704
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 4: lady who kept her identity a secret, but she worked

705
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 4: for the Pentagon for years, and one of the conversations

706
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 4: that she had on the panel was saying, we need

707
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 4: to be ready. Because I actually had a telepathic conversation

708
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 4: because they used to have this portal that they would

709
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 4: go to to connect to the extra trestrills like this

710
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 4: is a real thing. They would go to this portal.

711
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 3: Yes, they would go through this secure portal that that

712
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: had everything that you see in the movies, that that

713
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: that's real. That shit is real.

714
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 4: So they had this telepathic communication with extraterrestrials and what

715
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 4: they told her was that it's about to be a

716
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 4: disruption because the humans have not been abided by the

717
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 4: etiquette of the Earth, and they've tried to come and

718
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 4: intersept like, they'll come and they'll do abductions because they

719
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 4: have to understand our dynamic, so they'll.

720
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 3: Come and abduct us.

721
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 4: Some people get sent back, some people don't get sent back,

722
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 4: or they get sent somewhere else and they lose the

723
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: kinetics of who they were. So they're like, there's going

724
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 4: to be a disruption soon because you guys are not

725
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 4: taking care of things the way you should. We've tried

726
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 4: to help the humanity, but the humanity is dissolving. So

727
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 4: when she was told that telepathically by one of the Grays,

728
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 4: which which some people might know who the Grays are,

729
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 4: then she took that back, and you know, do to confidentiality,

730
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 4: she couldn't naturally tell anybody what she says, She's been

731
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 4: holding it in for over a decade.

732
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: She's been holding it in. It was eating her up.

733
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 4: She had went on what's called Reddit and they avalue

734
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 4: I think it's called Reddit, and they allow you to

735
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 4: have private discussions and you know, you can be anonymous.

736
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 4: She went on there and started telling her story and

737
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 4: that's how we found her. So when she came on

738
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 4: the panel and shared that, it was like, it makes sense,

739
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 4: and this is why they're releasing all of this stuff now,

740
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 4: because they know these beings are gonna come and start

741
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 4: inserting themselves and normalizing their their presence.

742
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 3: Their presence is gonna be normal.

743
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 4: So there's a there was a situation that happened where

744
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 4: there is a police officer and they caught the creature

745
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 4: on their dash cam and they caught the event. Yeah,

746
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: this really happened. I'm gonna do an interview about this

747
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 4: in my basement. But they actually the dash cam of

748
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 4: the police car fought an extrapress reel in the backyard

749
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 4: of somebody's house.

750
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 3: I think it was in Phoenix. Oh I think I

751
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: read that. Yeah. Yeah, And it's just they're starting to become,

752
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: you know, more active and visible.

753
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: So we're gonna say something's so shady, but I'm not

754
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: gonna say. I'm like aus woy, I can catch alien,

755
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: but I can't catch these police brutality.

756
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: Wow, like y'all can't catch Okay, but jack.

757
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: Oh all right, yeah, but as you were saying, and that.

758
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: Right, but wow.

759
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 4: So there's been people seeing extraterrestrials or beings in their windows,

760
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: like they'll just be staring in the windows. And that's

761
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 4: another link that I said, Okay, because you know, people

762
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 4: have been saying their animals is acting up. Their animals

763
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 4: are acting up, and they're starting to see things in

764
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 4: the windows. So they'll be blocking at the windows, and

765
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 4: they'll be blocking at the doors like like something's coming

766
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 4: in or going out.

767
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: That's like, Gary, Yeah, but should we be afraid because

768
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: it seems like the aliens wants to help us.

769
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 3: You know, and we fear what we don't understand. So

770
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 3: we're gonna be We're gonna be so afraid of it.

771
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 4: So that's why I think the government started depositing break

772
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 4: frombs of information. I think if they released everything that

773
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 4: they had a lot of cos of panic. So so

774
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 4: they're starting to try to get us make it more

775
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 4: comfortable for usunderstand. Okay, Yes, there's extra fressional. There's documentation

776
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 4: and politicians that have confirmed it. So they're starting to

777
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 4: try to build us into that idea and normalize it

778
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 4: and help us try to get through this normalization of

779
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 4: these beings existing.

780
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: You know. But it's Harry said, and I said that

781
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 3: to myself. Should we be worried? And I said, you know,

782
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: let me go ahead and start getting all of my

783
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 3: you start talking up because I.

784
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: Know Grety gonna get you on the g what're you

785
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: talking about?

786
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 3: Ground? Yeah?

787
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: That the walls.

788
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: Where are we going? Right? How do we protect ourselves?

789
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 3: You know?

790
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 4: I said, maybe I should start loading up getting bottle waters.

791
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 3: And let me get some ammunition. But where am I

792
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 3: doing that? Yeah?

793
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: You should wanted them to see what happened. But you

794
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: know what's so funny.

795
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: You make a good point because there is a movie

796
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: on Hulu and the movie is talking about pretty much

797
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: how this woman is pretty much coexisting with Elias and

798
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: not for nothing. I thought the movie was kind of like, yeah, However,

799
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: now it makes sense because I do feel like they've

800
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: given us like little breadcrumbs here and there to prepare us.

801
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: Because you can deny what people are seeing.

802
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 3: It's undeniable. You know, at first we would just look

803
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: at it. Okay, maybe that's a drone.

804
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 2: Nah, drones don't look like that.

805
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 4: Now there's like two hundred drones and one in one

806
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 4: motion flying over Vegas.

807
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 3: Like a lot of sidings have been in Nevada, A

808
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 3: lot of sidings have been on the California coastline. A

809
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: lot of them.

810
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 4: Because a lot and another thing is a lot of

811
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 4: them have, at least I believe in the research I've done,

812
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 4: a lot of them have hubs and portals in the water.

813
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 3: There's ships that things are in the water in the ocean.

814
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: But people are saying that you should leave the ocean

815
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: alone because you don't want to know what's really in there.

816
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 3: True.

817
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 4: True, Because there's a lot they've they've been able. They

818
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 4: started detecting. They sent that submarine down there, and they

819
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 4: start the detecting a lot of different vessels, yeah, and

820
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 4: tips and things that you know, they're just starting to

821
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 4: tell us about a little bit more. Wow, But a

822
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 4: lot of a lot of you see a lot of

823
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: times those those those extra trestal UAPs, they're hovering over water.

824
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 4: So that's where they get their their telepathic communication, because

825
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 4: I guess it's probably an easier way to hide. And

826
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 4: then I think, you know a lot of the research facilities,

827
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 4: pentagons and all of that, they're always closer to the coastline,

828
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 4: clearly because there's some hidden truths.

829
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: So why they have to be in those areas because

830
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: of those hubs.

831
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: Honestly, I feel like remember one on sixth in Park, Yes,

832
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: you know that was a wig on aj head?

833
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 3: Right?

834
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: So it was that was that was a lace frint,

835
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: you know back then. Every I really don't believe nothing,

836
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I gotta see shit for myself

837
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: because it's just like we have been lied to for

838
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: so many years.

839
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 4: Because yes, that's why, girl, I tell people keep some faith,

840
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,959
Speaker 4: you know, everybody needs to have some, But don't let

841
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 4: what you've been taught be the only thing that you learn.

842
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 4: There's so so much other truth out there. I usually

843
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 4: use it as an example, how many different species of.

844
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 3: Just cattle and insects.

845
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 4: Right, no, amphibians, How many different species of those are

846
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 4: out there?

847
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 3: An accountless amount, accountless amount. So if there's so many

848
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: different species and spiders and insects and animals, what makes

849
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 3: you think and there's some animals that I don't even

850
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: know existent too.

851
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 4: You think that there is not a possibility of other

852
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 4: things out there? Right, We're talking about birds that can

853
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 4: fly to all kinds of depths the water, that have

854
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 4: the ability to sustain life underwater because they have things,

855
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 4: Animals that can climb so high in different different depths. Like,

856
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 4: what makes you guys think that we are just restricted

857
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 4: to just this human normality. So there's other planets in

858
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 4: the Solar System, there's other galaxy that have been discovered.

859
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 2: So if you think about what so much out there?

860
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: Exactly?

861
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 4: There's so much out there, So how can you limit

862
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 4: your mind to believe and think that there is nothing

863
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 4: that exists beyond that we exist? We exist in this paradigm.

864
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 4: There's got to be other things. And then I tell people,

865
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 4: do you believe in dinosaurs? Some people say yeah, some

866
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 4: people say no. I said, I don't even know if

867
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 4: they were in the Bible or not.

868
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: Think about it. If you believe in dinosaurs and they

869
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 3: were able to research, you know the history of dinosaurs,

870
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: the age and the era. We're talking about millions of

871
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: years before humanity. What makes you think that there weren't

872
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 3: other species? If dinosaurs walk the land. Yeah, the pyramids.

873
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 3: You know, well, how did all that stuff? You hear?

874
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: You think, like, where's that going from? They gotta do

875
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: something more yeah.

876
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, way more sophisticated.

877
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: One of the things that we were talking about earlier,

878
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm like, I value you. In the

879
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: last conversation I have with the other ghost hunter is

880
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: you know, I was telling you how it's so difficult

881
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: finding black women in this industry. And one of the

882
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: things that I love about you and her is that

883
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: y'all know, y'all shit like I ain't feel like I mean,

884
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in class when ie with y'all. So,

885
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: can you discuss the importance of collaboration and networking with

886
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: other black women or just people of color within this industry?

887
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 4: You know, when I when I heard that there was

888
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 4: another ghost hunter that I've been trying to.

889
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 2: Find, I know, y'all, she message me so quick.

890
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 4: I said, Oh my god, I gotta connect with her

891
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 4: because I've been trying to find another female in a

892
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 4: black female, because we are so rare, and to find

893
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 4: another person in the same in the same paradigm and

894
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 4: the same career path and the same journey of research

895
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 4: with being black.

896
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's because it's it's so taboo of a conversation.

897
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 4: The more people that we find that are in this

898
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 4: industry and the more people we can motivate to become

899
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 4: a part of this research, the better we are understood,

900
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 4: and the better we are able to connect ourselves and

901
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 4: to extend ourselves towards each other, so we can get

902
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 4: rid of these taboo conversations and actually put ourselves on

903
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 4: the platform a lot more so that where we're not

904
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 4: always the ones that are you know, in the background

905
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 4: and the extras and the people that are okay, the

906
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 4: stand in is we're the ones that see in the

907
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 4: movies because we are the ones telling our stories. I

908
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 4: get so excited when I connect with another person, a

909
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 4: black person in this industry because it's just so important

910
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 4: for us to be to build together and that you know,

911
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 4: a lot of the conversations around the black community is

912
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 4: we we don't want to connect, we don't want a network,

913
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 4: we don't want to we don't want to have these

914
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: we don't want to build bridges to each other.

915
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 3: We're always in competition and in the bucket in this industry,

916
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 3: there is no competition. Yeah, there's us against things that

917
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: are unseen.

918
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 4: There's us against things that are you know that that

919
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 4: scientific explanations can be a part of. So we have

920
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 4: to bond together so that way we can figure out

921
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 4: as a unit as a culture, how to understand these

922
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 4: things that and and just give it a different version

923
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 4: of normal.

924
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 3: And I know I'm not alone.

925
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm just curious. I don't think I ever

926
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: asked this question before. But do you work with other

927
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: like psychics and mediums or scientists when you're doing your investigations,

928
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: Because I know you have a team, but what does

929
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: your team?

930
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: Who do your team consist of?

931
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I have one field, well, you field investigators.

932
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 4: And then depending on the type of investigation, I might

933
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 4: call in like a medium, so and it might be

934
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 4: a medium that's local to that reason for convenience, I

935
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 4: might call that person in and it just and it

936
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 4: varies with every investigation.

937
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 3: But a medium and intuitive.

938
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 4: A person who's more analytical and has a research background.

939
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 3: I usually encompass those whenever I do an investigation.

940
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 4: Sometimes it might be me and another person if I

941
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 4: don't feel like the investigation requires an extensive amount of people,

942
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 4: so it might be me and one other person, but

943
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 4: it just it just varies. But I typically connect with

944
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 4: mediums or anybody that has a sensitivity and can actually

945
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 4: give some guidance in that particular investigation.

946
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: Right now, have you had a personal experience of encounters

947
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: with recent paranormal activities that have left the lasting impact

948
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: on your beliefs or made you approach things differently as

949
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 1: a recently.

950
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 3: Goodness sense of recently let me see yes, And this

951
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:15,959
Speaker 3: is when we were in the tunnel.

952
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, And this was actually the first time

953
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 4: I had been in a tunnel, and in this particular tunnel,

954
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 4: I used that radiation detector because it allows the frequencies

955
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 4: it picks up things. It's more sensitive. And I also

956
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 4: used a device that some people call it the spear box.

957
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 4: Some people call it the voice box. But it also

958
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 4: allows the energy to communicate with you. So when this

959
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 4: energy was communicating, it was naming all things that were

960
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 4: pertinent to that particular area. Because warsaw Is it is

961
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 4: a territory that they call it the purple Heart territory.

962
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 4: So when the voice box was responding, it was given

963
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 4: me names. So I was documenting the names. It comes

964
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 4: without THEE one color in particular that it kept reading

965
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 4: off was purple, and then it said.

966
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 3: Purple, purple hearts, water, purple purple.

967
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 4: So when me and the investigator that I was with

968
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 4: were driving through the neighborhood just to kind of look

969
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 4: at things, on every big giant pole, there was purple hearts,

970
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 4: purple hearts, purple.

971
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: Hoh wow.

972
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: So we were like, are you reading this purple hearts?

973
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 3: This is giving us If that voice box gave us

974
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: clues to what possibly happened to these people that are

975
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 3: in this tunnel. A lot of people don't know.

976
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 4: Sometimes spirits they travel, so their spirit might not be

977
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 4: tied to that specific location, but they're honed in house

978
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 4: there because it might be they're safe haven, right, but

979
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 4: they died somewhere else. So after doing the research on

980
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 4: the area, because where the purple hearts were on the

981
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 4: on the big gigantic light poles, there was a body

982
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 4: of water. So I was like, okay, this is even

983
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 4: more interesting. So the more research I did, the little

984
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 4: girl's name was Heaven. So I started doing the research

985
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 4: and where the purple hearts in the water was, there

986
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 4: was a little girl and her father that.

987
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 3: Drowned in the lake.

988
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I said, Oh, my goodness, this is the

989
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 4: name that was bread off in this location Purple heart

990
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 4: water drowning heavy and that was her name. So that

991
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 4: investigation was it was so meaningful and it left such

992
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 4: a lasting impression because I said, I wonder if anybody

993
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 4: knows that they drowned there?

994
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: Right?

995
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 3: Was any you know, if they if they did drown there,

996
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 3: like were they murdered or you.

997
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 4: Know, does this does anybody in that area know that?

998
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 4: You know, I had to go through a lot of

999
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 4: extensive research when I started looking up the names of

1000
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 4: individuals that you know, went missing and stuff like that,

1001
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 4: like I want to say, no, that they're possibly in

1002
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 4: this lake? Wow, and this is their resting place was

1003
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 4: and they were communicating with that through me. So it

1004
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 4: was it was it was a shock to me and

1005
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 4: my investigator because we had never been taken on a

1006
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 4: journey like that. It spotted clues and given directions outside

1007
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 4: of the actual facility like that, the full actual investigation

1008
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 4: area that we were in, and to be pointed in

1009
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 4: a direction that can give us more insights.

1010
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 3: So I felt like they were telling was helping y'all, yes,

1011
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 3: this is what happened to us or y'all heard or

1012
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 3: you know, did you drown together? Did you commit suicide?

1013
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 3: So it was it was so it was so interesting.

1014
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: That was so interesting. That was one of my most

1015
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 3: memorable investigations.

1016
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 2: You know what, speaking of lakes, would you ever do

1017
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: research on Lake Lanier?

1018
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: Yes, I would, And that's what that location. And there's

1019
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 3: another location.

1020
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,959
Speaker 2: Like lan There is different Man, have you ever been there?

1021
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 2: I'm not. I would never go. They say you don't

1022
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: come back.

1023
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They say that you you know, you

1024
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 4: go there, you disappear. And there's another like, there's another

1025
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 4: place that I really want to go. It's a forest

1026
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 4: in Japan, I believe, go there and they have.

1027
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 3: This cap of suicide forest.

1028
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: Why you want to go there?

1029
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 3: I just want to go there to document that. I'm

1030
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: an investigator. Why do I go in any place that

1031
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 3: I shouldn't be in? No, just I just want to

1032
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 3: document it. But they say people go into this this

1033
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 3: area to hang themselves. Just I just want to go

1034
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 3: see this because they literally like they documented people hanging.

1035
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: There's this one guy that did done documentary and there

1036
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 3: was a human taking in the background. I thought that

1037
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 3: was a bit.

1038
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: Much like come on, respect.

1039
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 3: Their resting place. You know, that was a bit much,

1040
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 3: but to document.

1041
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 4: Just the area and just to feel the energies. I

1042
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 4: ain't known to spend the night like a lot of

1043
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 4: those people did, Like they can't out in the woods.

1044
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no no. You asked for

1045
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: what's coming if you camp out?

1046
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you asked them for a lot more

1047
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 3: than ghost to get you because I'm not camping now

1048
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 3: like that, right, right, right, No, i'mund like that.

1049
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 4: But you know, to visit the area, you know, because

1050
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 4: I can feel the one thing about me that I

1051
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 4: call the best piece of equipment when I go on

1052
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 4: investigation is me because I have a sensitivity. So when

1053
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 4: I start feeling certain energies that are too strong and

1054
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 4: that that caused me to have like this anxiety, I'll

1055
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 4: get a strong anxiety. I'll get nauseous, I'll probably start

1056
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 4: throwing up. And when I start feeling that I gotta go.

1057
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 3: I walked out on many investigations because the energies are

1058
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 3: too strong. You know.

1059
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: That's my next question.

1060
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: Have you ever been in a situation where you have

1061
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: just had to just terminate an investigation? Yes, because of

1062
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: your safety or unforeseen issues.

1063
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 3: Yes.

1064
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, the biggest one that I terminated in investigation. It

1065
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 4: was in North Carolina and it was at a house

1066
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 4: that was owned.

1067
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: By a He was a sergeant kernel of the Confederate

1068
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 3: Soldier back in the early days, and he lived in

1069
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 3: this This is Colonel William mccorkyl is his name.

1070
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 2: So he had this these niggas.

1071
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 4: No, that's right, yeah, William mccorkl He owned this house

1072
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 4: out there and his house was like a stopping station,

1073
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 4: so they would have the buggies and the horses and

1074
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 4: they would back up and this is where their meeting

1075
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 4: point was. But it was also a housing station for

1076
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 4: a lot of It's kind of like set up like

1077
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 4: a hotel in the way. So, but it was his

1078
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 4: primary house. So when I went to do I was

1079
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 4: actually there to.

1080
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 3: Do an inspection, like a regular job for my day job.

1081
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 3: And then I started seeing these energies in the windows.

1082
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 4: And then the lady tells me about the house and

1083
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 4: she's like, I said, who's that up there in the window.

1084
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 4: There's a lady in the window. And she's like, I said,

1085
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 4: is that your sister? And she said, no, there's nobody

1086
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 4: here but me and my husband.

1087
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: But I know who you're talking.

1088
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 4: She said, I know who you're talking about. So she

1089
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 4: turns around, she looks at the window. I said, so

1090
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 4: this is not your sister.

1091
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I remember the story she was a slave

1092
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: or something. Yes, yes, yeah, but totally.

1093
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 2: The listeners go ahead.

1094
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 4: So this house, I had actually gone just to do

1095
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 4: an inspection for my job, my day job. It turned

1096
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 4: into a full blown investigation. So got in there to

1097
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 4: actually do with the investigation.

1098
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 3: A pit of blue fire came up through the fourier

1099
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 3: floor and went through the damn ceiling. So I said,

1100
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 3: excuse me. She said, oh, that happens all the time.

1101
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 3: I said, wow, She's like it happens all at the time,

1102
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 3: and I was like, okay. So I'm walking around the house.

1103
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 4: I started seeing. I seen a little boy walk by,

1104
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 4: there was a tall soldier. There was the woman, the

1105
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 4: slave woman that was standing on the stairs, and I

1106
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 4: heard the baby crying. I said, there's a lot of

1107
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 4: energy here. Wow, there's a lot of it. Was it

1108
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 4: was making me sick. And then for the blue fire

1109
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 4: to come through the ground, I said, there's way this

1110
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 4: energy is too strong. These energies come to find out

1111
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 4: they had killed a lot. There was a soldier that

1112
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 4: committed suicide. He was raping a lot of the slave women.

1113
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 4: One the slave women got pregnant by William mccorky. He

1114
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 4: murdered her and the baby and buried them in the backyard.

1115
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 3: Wow.

1116
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 4: So there was a tremendous amount of energy in that house.

1117
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 4: And I told her, I appreciate you giving me the

1118
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 4: opportunity to to to do the investigation, but I can't.

1119
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 2: I can't.

1120
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: I know you from the hood because once shit don't

1121
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: start starting on feeling right, you gotta be out.

1122
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 3: You got to streuss that feeling. Okay, yeah, feeling.

1123
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: We got that feeling right, Like that's just calmon sense.

1124
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 1: Like when shit started feeling a little too real n

1125
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: because fire, I don't play with.

1126
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 3: That.

1127
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 4: That's Poulter guy stuff. So then that, and then and

1128
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 4: at some point I was like, was I.

1129
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 3: Even really talking to the owners?

1130
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 2: Because it made me start questioning yourself. Yeah, yeah, like are.

1131
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 3: They even real? You know? I did not even Actually

1132
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 3: the funny part was, I went and I did their

1133
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 3: inspection before I did the investigations, I inspected their house,

1134
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 3: took pictures. When I got really ready to make my pictures,

1135
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 3: I can get paid for my work. Everything gone, whole file,

1136
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 3: everything gone out of my camera, no photos, no record

1137
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 3: of the file, everything's gone. So I called the company

1138
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 3: I worked for. I'm like, did you have a mister

1139
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 3: and missus Ketchup because that's what their last name was.

1140
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 4: And then I said, what there did you guys see

1141
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 4: me out on an investment and especially with the mister

1142
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 4: Ketchup And they were like yes.

1143
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 3: I say, okay, can you grandfather address? Because at this

1144
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 3: point I'm questionately did I actually are these ghosts that

1145
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 3: I met with or these real people? So they were

1146
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 3: real people, but all of the all the photos.

1147
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 4: In my camera, and I had a very very detailed camera,

1148
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 4: the stuff thing could just disappear. You literally have to

1149
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 4: get an approval to delete stuff out of your phone.

1150
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 4: I know, I documented everything, all of it disappeared. It

1151
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 4: was like the house that the energy that was in

1152
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 4: that house did not want any of the truth to

1153
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 4: be to be let out.

1154
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: And they still in the house, like girl, no, you know.

1155
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 3: It's so funny. They called me a year and a

1156
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 3: half later and then I was like who is this

1157
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 3: and then she was like, yes, it's missus Ketchup. I said,

1158
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 3: missus Ketchup from North Carolina.

1159
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 4: She said yeah. I said, how are you? She said,

1160
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 4: I'm doing great. We moved out of the house. I said,

1161
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 4: did you She said, yeah. We're just trying to see

1162
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 4: if you be interested in buying it.

1163
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: Hell, I know, I said, I said what I said?

1164
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 4: What was you think that I'd be interested in buying

1165
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 4: the house? She said, because you were so connected to the.

1166
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 3: House, I said. I said, I felt the energies and

1167
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 3: I felt the connection. I said, but I wouldn't want

1168
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 3: to buy that house.

1169
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 4: She said, I'd rather for a black person to buy

1170
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 4: it than a white person.

1171
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 3: MMMM said, because it's in a neighborhood with a lot

1172
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 3: of white people. And she said it would startle the

1173
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 3: hell out of the neighborhood if a black person bought

1174
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 3: this house. And after everything that happened in that house,

1175
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 3: she said, a black person deserves to be in control

1176
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 3: of it. And I said, wow, Well, these niggas don't

1177
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:01,959
Speaker 3: care if you're black.

1178
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,959
Speaker 2: Listen these spirits. They don't give no funks.

1179
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:13,959
Speaker 3: Don't give a white They're gonna disturb you no matter

1180
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 3: what color.

1181
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: And you know what, you know what happened to that

1182
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: man who bought that We spoke about this last time

1183
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: but a guy. He was an investigator and he bought

1184
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: that family's home with the black mom and her.

1185
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 3: Kid ya Bacon's Yeah, his eyes.

1186
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 2: Got like he kind of I think he's like blind.

1187
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 4: Now that he has that that stigmatism in his eye,

1188
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 4: and like he's half blind.

1189
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1190
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 4: The spirits, yeah, you know, and then they end up

1191
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 4: hearing and that was in.

1192
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: I always forget the location.

1193
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 3: They tore down. They did tell Louis Nope, it was

1194
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 3: then gosh, it was then, Oh man, it'll come back

1195
00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 3: to me.

1196
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: But I think he tore I think he gotta. He

1197
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: did his thing in Tori down because he was like,

1198
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: this was too much going on in that house.

1199
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 3: It was so it was so much fun. They used

1200
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 3: to have seances in that house. Oh there was that.

1201
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,439
Speaker 4: There was a lot of demonic energy in that home

1202
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 4: and it affected not just that black family, everybody that

1203
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 4: came in counter with it. You know, that was an

1204
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 4: investigation that I would have pulled out.

1205
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 3: Of because yeah, he spent the night there too. Zach

1206
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 3: ended up spending the night there. Oh no, no, yeah.

1207
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 4: Because you know, you can't there's only so far you

1208
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 4: can take them energies. You can't just put yourself in

1209
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 4: those positions of that strong of the energy and not.

1210
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 3: Expect anything to happen. Yeah, they can manipulate a lot

1211
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 3: of things about a human because our vessels are so

1212
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 3: much more weaker than their. Yeah, so you gotta be

1213
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 3: you gotta be very careful, right, they will do something

1214
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 3: to you. Yeah.

1215
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: So now you you mentioned that you've been doing a

1216
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: lot of uh, well, a lot of your research has

1217
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: have a lot of religion involvement in it, and I

1218
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: know in the past you have done research on demons.

1219
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 2: So do you believe in spiritual warfare?

1220
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Absolutely, there is Oh, you know, it's learning so

1221
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 3: much about the cultural dynamic has has taught me that

1222
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 3: spiritual warfare is so real. It's real with just other cultures,

1223
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 3: it's real with ourselves, it's real within us, and the

1224
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 3: battle of us against the unforeseen and unseen is so real. Yeah.

1225
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 3: And they're starting to label it, you know, spiritual warfare.

1226
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 4: They're starting to label the psycho psychological dysfunctions, and they're

1227
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 4: starting to try to give you give it an identification.

1228
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 4: And in reality, it's just the warfare of ourselves and

1229
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 4: these other components of existence.

1230
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 3: That we have to we have to be. We have

1231
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 3: to learn to understand that we are not alone. And

1232
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 3: the moment you start understanding that you're not alone and

1233
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 3: you're not alone in your own energy presence, the better

1234
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 3: you're start accepting everything else around you and it won't

1235
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 3: psychologically complicate things, right, But yeah, that I definitely believe

1236
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 3: in that.

1237
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: So how do you view the relationship between spiritual warfare

1238
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: and everyday life or personal struggles, especially when it comes

1239
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: to generational curses. I feel like when we have more

1240
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: conversations and obviously, you know, I speak a lot about

1241
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: or my guest speak a lot about, you know, just

1242
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: sexual abuse, and a lot of people have been saying, like,

1243
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: you know, this is we are you know, real spiritual warfare,

1244
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: Like these are demons that are possessed in us and

1245
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: making people do certain things that.

1246
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 2: Are not right.

1247
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's sometimes people, at least with the industry that

1248
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 4: I've been in and just the people that I've connected with,

1249
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 4: sometimes people want to utilize certain aspects of spiritual warfare

1250
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 4: as an escapegoat to continue to do malicious things.

1251
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 2: That part.

1252
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 4: So you've got to be at to discern between a

1253
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 4: person who is just trying to use it as a

1254
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 4: scapegoard or a person who's actually really dealing with something.

1255
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 4: And that's why I feel like it's so important to

1256
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 4: have these conversations normalized, because I don't think we would

1257
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 4: look down on these people as much if we understood

1258
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 4: the kinetics of how they are and what they're actually

1259
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 4: exposed to and what they're dealing with, because a lot

1260
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 4: of people would have looked at me younger, especially in

1261
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 4: the black community, as Okay, she's got some psychological issues,

1262
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 4: you know, she's who's just One thing they told my

1263
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 4: mother was if you were right with God, your daughter.

1264
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 3: Wouldn't be born through Yeah, so and then my mother

1265
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 3: took offense to that. My mother's like, you don't know

1266
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 3: what the hell we've been through. You have no idea.

1267
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 4: So, but you're trying to label me, and you're trying to,

1268
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 4: you know, associate me with this this this this religious

1269
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 4: dynamic or religious association because I'm not in this particular segment.

1270
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 4: But but yeah, there's a lot of things that are

1271
01:03:58,600 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 4: that are.

1272
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 3: Just just that are surfacing. There's the spiritual warfare.

1273
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 4: The spiritual components are starting to heighten even more, and

1274
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 4: a lot of people are straying away from the whole

1275
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 4: religious explanation.

1276
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 3: You know, they're.

1277
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 4: Using faith as a common ground, but they're also keeping

1278
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 4: their mind on the fact that there could be other

1279
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 4: things that's causing this to be a description in my life.

1280
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 4: And then you know, there's a lot of pressure on

1281
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 4: people now, socially, financially, emotionally, psychologically. The pressures of life

1282
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 4: have heightened so much to where people are starting to

1283
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 4: convince themselves that other things are going on with them.

1284
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 4: In reality, you just got a lot of normal pressure.

1285
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 4: They're just building onto the components of your life, and

1286
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 4: it's frustrating you. It's weakening you, and it's making more

1287
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 4: susceptible to these demonic forces or to these energies, to

1288
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 4: what they can manipulate advantage of you.

1289
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 3: Because your vessel's not strong. You can only hold so much.

1290
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 3: You know, they say, oh, you know, Gouys, I ain't

1291
01:04:58,200 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 3: gonna give you as much as you can. Hope.

1292
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 4: Society has has has structured us to we got to

1293
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 4: respond to emails immediately. We gotta take phone falls, We

1294
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 4: got bills, We got to raise children, We have to

1295
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 4: we have to respond in a certain dynamic. You know,

1296
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 4: back in the day, women, you know, we stayed.

1297
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 3: At home we're the children.

1298
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 4: Now we are in a position of independence to where

1299
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 4: we have to assume certain responsibilities. Still rearing children, still

1300
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 4: taking care of the house, so still trying to be

1301
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 4: this particular component in society so that way we're not

1302
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 4: judging ridicule. Then, you know, and then this society is

1303
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 4: weakend so much because what do they call it? The

1304
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 4: what do they call it nowadays? With a lot of

1305
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 4: this generation.

1306
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 3: But.

1307
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 4: When they called you out on stuff or they I

1308
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 4: forgot the titles, they cancel culture.

1309
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 3: You know, they have this cancel culture mentality.

1310
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 4: And then they also have this I want to be

1311
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 4: pacified mentality, and they're so much more weaker. And now

1312
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 4: they're saying, okay, well, you know what. You might not

1313
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 4: have had a conversation about this yesterday. Mom, I think

1314
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 4: that I might need to get medication because my cycles

1315
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 4: are changing and I'm starting to become more depressed, and

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Speaker 4: I think that I'm dealing with something psychologically. I said, baby, no,

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Speaker 4: you're not. You're dealing with some fault in life. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're life, and you're you're you're under stressed.

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Speaker 3: She did.

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Speaker 4: My daughter's in the navy, my second oldest darter. I said,

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Speaker 4: maybe it's called life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a girl.

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01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 3: You went through basic training, you know.

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Speaker 4: She unfortunately I would have been a grandmother this October,

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01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 4: but she had an ectopic pregnancy.

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Speaker 3: So I said, your body's changing.

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01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 4: But the way that this society is is just it's

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01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 4: just pandering and pampering and pacifying this generation to make

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01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 4: it think like, oh, I need to medicate myself so

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Speaker 4: that way I have to deal with the reality of

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01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 4: what I'm mind. What I'm dealing with my reality is

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01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 4: going to make the situation worse because it might get

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01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 4: rid of one problem to cause multiple other problems. And

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01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 4: then you're subjecting yourself to that psychological that weekend force

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01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 4: field where you might become succumbed to these demonic energies.

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01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 4: You might have that exposure because you're weakening your vessel. Yeah,

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01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 4: so you're strong enough to deal with all of these,

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01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 4: you know, these spiritual interferences.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Listen, if you would have became a grandma,

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01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: I know, the grandma's we know would be like, nah,

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01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: this bit is not no grandma.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you look's sister, Oh my god, wait, I

1344
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 4: have to see you some pictures of us.

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01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 3: Fiance Calcer yes.

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01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 2: Please please.

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01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 4: When we go out, we me and my my daughters,

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01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 4: we all matter of fact, I have a picture of us.

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01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna send it to you. They're like, who's the mom?

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01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 4: You know, who's the mom?

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01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: You know when I remember when I was when I

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01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: first found you, And I'm like, wait, is these her sisters?

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01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 2: Because I know this is not her daughters?

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01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: Like I was so confused, but I'm like, you know what,

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01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: we take care of yourself and you're doing.

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01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 3: Right listen, yes, it's I tell everybody I have been

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01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 3: through so much at such a young age, Like, how

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01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 3: do you look so young? I don't stress. I accept

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01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 3: life for what it is.

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01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 4: I accept it for what it is, and it comes

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01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 4: with a lot of different terms and moving parts. So

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01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 4: once you start accepting the fact that everything ain't gonna

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01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 4: always have an explanation to it, then that's when you

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01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 4: understand that you can sit back and chill and then

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01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 4: work around whatever.

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01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 3: Else comes your direction. Because it's stressing. People like to people,

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01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 3: some people survive and die in stress.

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01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 4: Yeah no they yeah, some people vive and down stress

1369
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 4: because this is this is what this is what they're

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01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 4: comfortable with. Okay, if I'm stressing then this is normal.

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01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 4: If I don't understand it, then this is normal. I'm

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01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 4: gett an explanation, then this is normal. And their brains

1373
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 4: are so focused on everything. It's making you age and

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01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 4: its age. It's making you lose touch with your inner core,

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01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 4: and it's just causing you to be just so disrupted.

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01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 4: Given other areas of your life to work, you just

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01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 4: weakening your vessel.

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01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm always happy. I'm always trying.

1379
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 2: That's what I told myself.

1380
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 3: I love me too much.

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01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, despite everything I've been through, what I feel,

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01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 4: what I've seen, I love my vessel too much to

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01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 4: let it be weakened by the forces of society and

1384
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 4: their speculations and hypothesis hypothesisations.

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01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 3: I'm happy and the simple. And then you know, some

1386
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 3: people like, how do you do it all? How do

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01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 3: you do this?

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01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 4: How do you work these two jobs and do a

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01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 4: production and do investigations and write scripts?

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01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 3: And I don't think about.

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01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just do it, do it. Yeah, I just

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01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 1: do it because you know you need to stop? Yeah

1393
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: or slow down?

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01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 2: Should I say?

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01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,560
Speaker 3: Yes? You just do it. Your body will tell you

1396
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 3: when it's ready to sit down.

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01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 2: It'll tell you, Oh, it will definitely tell you yeah.

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01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 4: Right, like your body is like sit down, but you've

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01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 4: been persevering through it all.

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01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 3: You look beautiful. Thank you COVID.

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01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 2: Yes, I have your COVID.

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01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: Oh my, and I've been pushing through so you have

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01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: probably heard in my voice, but yes. My friend was like,

1404
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 1: you don't look like you got COVID. I'm like, no,

1405
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 1: I had COVID.

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01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you still look amazing. And you know you

1407
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 3: may bet your goal to accomplish, and you've been doing

1408
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 3: such a wonderful job. And I'm proud of this woman.

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01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 4: You guys, I am so out of her on this

1410
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 4: journey and I support her one hundred and twenty percent.

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01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 3: She's doing an amazing thing. So yeah, as long as

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01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 3: you don't, don't think about it.

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01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 2: Just do it. No, I just do I agree.

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01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: And last, but not least, what are some of your

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01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: most important lessons you learned from your career as a

1416
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: paranormal investigator that you would like to pass on to

1417
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: others that's interested in this field.

1418
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 4: Keep an open mind about everything facts, Keep an open mind.

1419
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,879
Speaker 4: Never ever, your feelings are going to tell you a lot.

1420
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 4: To trust your feelings, but also trust what you see

1421
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 4: and you know and sometimes again, you I not always

1422
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 4: get an explanation, and that's okay. You're not always going

1423
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 4: to have a definitive explanation for what you're dealing with,

1424
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 4: right and which a lot of my investigations, I've learned

1425
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 4: something new every time I go out, because everyone's experiences

1426
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 4: might be very, very different. Yeah, so you know, what

1427
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 4: happens at one person's house is not going to always

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01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 4: happen at another person. So you can't be so close minded,

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01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 4: you know. Also, you know a lot of people take

1430
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 4: medication and things like that. Don't be so judgmental. Go

1431
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 4: into it with an open mind and an ability to

1432
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 4: want to learn something new about what you're dealing with

1433
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 4: and what these other people are experiencing.

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01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: Nah, I am so happy that I found you over No, seriously,

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01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,480
Speaker 1: I think that what you are doing is so amazing,

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01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 1: and however I can support you, you know, I am

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01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: down Hopefully we can link up really soon, but I

1438
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: am just so excited for what's to come for you,

1439
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: because I know you have been doing a lot of

1440
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: amazing things that you can speak on.

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01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:00,839
Speaker 2: Yet I cannot wait.

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01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: To get your book, So definitely send me some copies

1443
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 1: so I can support you. And definitely get the Professional

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01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: Homegirls to support.

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01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 2: You as well. So I really appreciate.

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01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 3: You absolutely, and you know I am always gonna be

1447
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 3: here to support this platform because it is doing amazing things.

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01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 4: So stay on top of it. PhD podcast like yeah.

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01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 2: Hey, doing the Lord's work okay.

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Speaker 1: And to your listeners, if you have any questions, comments

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Speaker 1: and concerns, please make sure to email me at Hello

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01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: at thepgpodcast dot com. And until next time, everyone later bye.

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