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Speaker 1: College Football Apostles is here. We got a lot to

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Speaker 1: talk about. The NCAA is getting ready to do something ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about vacating wins. This has to be one

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Speaker 1: of the all time stupidest things that they ever do.

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Speaker 1: talk about that. Kenny Dillingham, he asked for twenty million

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Speaker 1: that was saying, oh, you got on TV begging hey,

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Speaker 1: So good on him. And why Dion Sanders needs to

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Speaker 1: a college basketball story. Jerome Tang he got fired at

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Speaker 1: Kansas State. How will this impact their college football program?

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, Oh, he had some things to say. Well, actually,

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith talked about what it was like with him

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Speaker 1: And you'll be like, yeah, that's part four the course.

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Speaker 1: And also another Georgia player arrested. I mean in other

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Speaker 1: newswater is wet and I have finally been vindicated. Today

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Speaker 1: And I will tell you about what up.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Make sure that you guys like share, subscribe, get notifications,

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Speaker 1: in one of the fastest growing college football channels, and uh,

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Speaker 1: make sure that they know that we should be in

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Speaker 1: the top twenty next year. All right, so we're gonna

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Speaker 1: start at something. Well, there are two things early in

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Speaker 1: the show that have me so hot, and Ralph, I'll

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Speaker 1: let you explain. The first thing where the ncuble A

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's always it feels like on this show, a

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Speaker 2: bad day for the NT double A. I don't know

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Speaker 2: again made us all happy and proud. But there's an

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Speaker 2: article up on On three by Ross Dellinger. It's titled

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Speaker 2: how a nineteen seventy five legal battle could lead to

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Speaker 2: NC double A punishment for Memphis, San Diego State, and

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Speaker 2: Lonnie Shelton, who was an Oregon State basketball player back

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Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy five. He sued the NC double A

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Speaker 2: after they deemed him ineligible because he signed a pro

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Speaker 2: He won in court. Judge granted him the injunction all

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Speaker 2: in the NCAA tournaments. Those are really good, So.

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Speaker 1: The teams have been so players have been legally battling.

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Speaker 1: The NC double A says nineteen seventy five, and we

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Speaker 1: That sounds dumb. Okay, go on, that's an ip chucked.

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Speaker 2: NC double A battles with their own players are if

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Speaker 2: then upon appeal it got reversed. The Ninth Circuit of

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Speaker 2: then they passed that rule in like nineteen seventy four,

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Speaker 2: And this was ross Ellinger said, this was unearthed by

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Speaker 1: No, we do not care. We do not care. This

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Speaker 1: Look at the University of Memphis where they said that

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Speaker 1: are we doing? Ralph? I cannot understand why the NCAA,

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Speaker 1: take back some wins. How about you punish North Carolina

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Speaker 1: we don't have power to do that, but you can,

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Speaker 1: you know, punish Terrail Prior and other kids at Ohio

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Speaker 2: Dude.

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Speaker 1: Shut up, Charlie Baker, Go find some go pound some sand,

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Speaker 1: the march madness. Dude, this is no different than politics, Ralph.

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Speaker 2: That I didn't. I didn't want to uh interrupt us

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Speaker 2: There is another side to this. Do we want the

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Speaker 1: They they've shown that they either they won't or they can't.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But they're the temporary injunctions that were granted in

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Speaker 2: the fact that can the NC DOUBLEA actually have jurisdiction

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Speaker 2: NC DOUBLEA as far as the junior college associations that

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Speaker 2: They need the nc DOUAA to take these course these

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Speaker 2: the whole time, why is it not within their purview?

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Speaker 1: That's the problem is that Ralph, it's not correct. They

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Speaker 1: I think that there need to be rules, but thinking

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Speaker 1: The NBA can't just set rules without the players. The

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Speaker 1: NFL can't set rules without the players. MLB can't set

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Speaker 1: I've heard people say, well, well, the players don't want

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Speaker 2: It's the players who don't want it.

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Speaker 1: That's a lie, because it is the The people who

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Speaker 1: are the ninety nine percent. They are the middle class

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Speaker 1: that needs protections that if you get hurt and then

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Speaker 1: So the protections are not just for the players. Therefore,

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Speaker 1: Who should pay for it? If you break your neck

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Speaker 1: Is what it is, brother, is what it is until

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Speaker 1: People because you can't bite people when they're when when

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Speaker 2: He call his early part of his journey, his mission?

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Speaker 1: What is what is I like that? I like that?

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Speaker 2: Surprise topic because we're talking about legal battles, and one

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Speaker 1: Play on this is what you thought there was? The

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Speaker 2: No, I know exactly what I'm waiting for yours, but no,

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Speaker 1: And remember, oh, Miami was in on the same type

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he ends up he ends up at Florida

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Speaker 1: So so here is what happened. So contract gets signed.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so nineteen already. Kids signs it himself and then

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Speaker 2: You didn't do anything wrong.

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Speaker 1: up getting thrown overboard. And there there would be no

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Speaker 1: you know, uh, what's the kid at LSU now who

433
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: replaced him over at Arizona State?

434
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: Sam Levitt?

435
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there would be no Sam Levitt without Jayden

436
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: getting his money at LSU, without Jaden Rashot. He took

437
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: the bullet so you didn't have to.

438
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know Lewis and Clark's name because they made

439
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 2: it all the way to Oregon.

440
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: Exactly.

441
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: We don't know anybody else's name who got eaten by

442
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: a Bear the first time they hit the Rockies. So

443
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 2: you know, it is what it is. But yeah, I

444
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 2: just wanted to bring that up. Because that court case

445
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: is settled, We're never going to know anything about it.

446
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Speaker 1: So I appreciate that you provided some I'm gonna get

447
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: some moil. I'm gonna get some more details. We're gonna

448
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: do interview, interview, interview. We've been waiting on this to

449
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: get settled.

450
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Speaker 2: Well. Speaking of backing out of agreements, the University of

451
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: Texas has said we do not want a college football

452
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: playoff rematch with the Arizona State Sundittles. They have backed

453
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: out of that home and home it was five years off.

454
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: Texas fans want you to believe that this is no

455
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: big deal. You, I'm assuming want us to believe this

456
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: is part of a greater trend and we can't let

457
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Speaker 2: one of these things slide.

458
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Speaker 1: There you go, Ralph, there you go. Okay. So I

459
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: want to back this up because there's a lot of

460
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: people that look at college football and they're looking at

461
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: it and they let Texas fans propaganda them into believing

462
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: the fact that they missed the college football playoff because

463
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: they played Ohio State. Ralph, is that the reason why

464
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: they missed the college football playoff, or is the reason

465
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: why they missed the college football playoff because they looked

466
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Speaker 1: like ass for the first six weeks of the season

467
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Speaker 1: and then they lost to Florida. So them saying, oh,

468
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: they are upset that they didn't field a you know,

469
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: a college football playoff team roster and results last year,

470
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: and it is it's honestly sad that we have come

471
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: to the point that people are trying to convince you

472
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: that in a season that only has twelve games, that

473
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: playing less good games is better for the fans. This

474
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: is the entertainment business. This is a put on a

475
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: show for your fans. But instead we are trying to

476
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: manufacture records. And that's why we need scheduled uniformity. And

477
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: I'll go back to this Texas played in case you

478
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Speaker 1: don't believe it, let's go here. I'm gonna put the

479
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Texas to schedule and their results up

480
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Speaker 1: on the screen. Because it's like people forget because they

481
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: went on to go beat Because people forget because they

482
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: went on to go beat Texas A and M at

483
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: the end of the season. They forgot what the beginning

484
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: of the season looked like and you know who didn't

485
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: forget me? I did not forget what happened. How they

486
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: didn't look good against Ohio State, but still it's Ohio State.

487
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: It was a fourteen to fourteen to seven game. Okay, cool.

488
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: And then you have the San Jose State game. Yes

489
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Speaker 1: they won thirty eight to seven, but if you watch

490
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: that game, that game wasn't really that pretty. Can we

491
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: agree with that? And then the UTEP game twenty seven

492
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: to ten, and then Sam Houston State, and then you

493
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: lose to Florida, the Kentucky game stayed the Mississippi State

494
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: game like they weren't even there was a point in

495
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: the season, Ralph, they weren't even ranked, and we're making

496
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Speaker 1: it seem like they got the short end of the stick.

497
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, Ralph, their fans are

498
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: then crying and complaining, Oh, you're not talking about anybody else.

499
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: Nobody talks about anybody else getting getting uh putting these

500
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: bad schedules out. You know who has you know who

501
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: has two thumbs and has every single time it comes up.

502
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: This guy, I've been banging brouh. I've been banging on

503
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: the drum for sec schedules eight conference games, three freebie wins,

504
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: and then a sim and sometimes a semi competitive or

505
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: a competitive non conference game. But but now that's fixed

506
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: in the none because they have nine conference games. But

507
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: now you got Alabama threatening into cancel Ohio State. I

508
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: criticized Indiana last year for taking Virginia off the schedule.

509
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: I criticized Ohio State's scheduled the year before that. Michigan

510
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: is the year before that. It is soft SF capital

511
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: T and I swear to God, if it weren't not

512
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: cool to share text messages, I have texted Dan Lanning myself.

513
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: I was like, God, please, don't you ever do this,

514
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: because I will have to talk shit about you on TV.

515
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: I promise you I will if Dan Lanning takes a

516
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: a you know, a good non conference game off, I

517
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: will call him soft too. I will because I'm a

518
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: college football fan before I am anything else about this

519
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: sport and the idea that we would give you less

520
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: good inventory and the fact that you've been brainwashed to

521
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: believe that that is a worthwhile way of thinking. And

522
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: then you got and remember this, Ralph, I know you're

523
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: gonna remember when Nick Saban was talking about why are

524
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: the students leaving the student section during the Citadel game

525
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: because it's fifty five to nothing. Bro, nobody wants to

526
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 1: waste their Saturday that they can spend on the lake drinking,

527
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: hanging out with their friends. You know, honey, dude, list

528
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: something watching a piece of you know what game and

529
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: when you could have been playing Hell South Florida would

530
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: have would would would have been accepted, even though it

531
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: wasn't a you know it's not you know you're not

532
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: playing Georgia schedule, Arizona State schedule, Washington State schedule, anybody.

533
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: All I want is good games. If my team can't

534
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: turn around and beat Oklahoma State and we missed the playoffs,

535
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: so what so what then we didn't deserve it. But

536
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: everybody wants charity, everybody wants participation, trophies. Oh we made

537
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: it to the playoff, but you can't win. Texas, you

538
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: were not a top twelve team last year. No matter

539
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: what you try to convince yourself, you were not one

540
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: of the twelve best because you beat Quiz Texas.

541
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Speaker 2: Quiz yes, pop quiz yes or no? Do you think

542
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 2: that Texas had a top five offense in the SEC

543
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: last year? No, that is correct. Yes or no. Do

544
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: you believe that Texas had a top five defense in

545
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: the SEC last year? No, you are correct, Yes or no?

546
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: Do you believe that Texas had a top ten strength

547
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 2: of schedule in the SEC last year?

548
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: Top ten?

549
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: Top ten?

550
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean pull up, pull up the schedule again. So

551
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: they had Mississippi State, Kentucky, Florida.

552
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: No, you are incorrect. They were number ten.

553
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: Oh, excuse me, excuse me.

554
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: They weren't top five in offense in the SEC. They

555
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 2: weren't top five in defense in the SEC. They had

556
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: the number ten ranked schedule, and they lost to Florida.

557
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: They had plenty of games where they didn't look good.

558
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: If they were so deserving of a college football playoff spot,

559
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: Pete Kwakowski wouldn't be the defensive line coach for the

560
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals right now. So like, you can't be like

561
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: we deserve to be in the playoff, Pete, You're fired.

562
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: You can't do that.

563
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: And then you got that Georgia game was bad, thirty

564
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: five ten. Had you even played Georgia competitive, Maybe maybe

565
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: we can talk about that. You gave up thirty seven

566
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: to Arkansas. And no, it is not just Texas, Miami

567
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: and South Carolina, they cancel future home and homes Florida

568
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: and Arizona State, calum BYU, Georgia, Louisville. The only thing

569
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Speaker 1: that this is why schedule uniformity has to be the

570
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: overarching point is because you can't have Kurt Signetti up

571
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: there at Indiana, you know, manufacturing three wins. The committee

572
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: has to punish people for this, has to You should

573
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: get rewarded for better scheduling. But then when you lose

574
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: to bad teams, and Texas will try to argue up

575
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: and down, Florida was not as bad as they're was.

576
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: They fired their head coach, bitch their quarterback. This one

577
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: a good football team, right, no matter how much talent

578
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 1: that they had on the football team.

579
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: Okay, each of these two criticisms I see that you're

580
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 2: getting from Texas fans in your replies. Number one Oregon

581
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: schedule Boise State Oklahoma State that you don't have the

582
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: right to talk. Is it Oregon's fault that Oklahoma State

583
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: immediately fell off a cliff when they were voted to

584
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: be the number one team in the Big Twelve going

585
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: into twenty twenty four, and then they went oh and

586
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: nine in conference after being voted number one.

587
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: Ralph. People don't want to let common sense get in

588
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: the way of their argument. They don't. They don't. Oregon

589
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: has a team that was in the playoffs two years

590
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: ago and Oklahoma State in their in their preseason, and

591
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, cool, not a big, big, big deal.

592
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: And then in twenty twenty seven they have Baylor and

593
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: Eastern Washington and they're still looking for a new opponent.

594
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty eight, they got Baylor in North Dakota State.

595
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: I have always been of the opinion, Ralph, always been

596
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: of the opinion that you should and my mind, you

597
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: I've talked extensively about eight conference games, three out of

598
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: conference games against the other Power four teams, and then

599
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: one game against whoever you want to schedule. That's the

600
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: way I think the schedule should be done, because it

601
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: would give us so many data points for strength to

602
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: schedule strength, the record, conference strength, all of those things

603
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: it would give us. It would give us more data

604
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: than we really even knew what to do with.

605
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: And you want to do like year out NFL scheduling,

606
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: you're like the number if you finished tenth in the ACC,

607
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: then you get the tenth place school.

608
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: Because it's going to create parody, it's gonna create new playoffs.

609
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: It's gonna because people need hope more than anything else.

610
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: I know that Texas fans think that they should make

611
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: the playoff every year, and people and from Oregon are

612
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: not gonna like this. But here's the truth. Oregon can't

613
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: maybe a playoff team every single year, like like over

614
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: the over a long period of time, Alabama wasn't, Georgia wasn't.

615
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: It's just not possible. So look at how good the

616
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs had been. They just missed the playoffs

617
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 1: this year. Might they be back in the playoffs next year. Sure,

618
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: but you don't get to stay at the top of

619
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: the mountain for forever. Because fans need hope. And I

620
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: know that they don't believe that fans at Rutgers need

621
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: the same hope as people at Texas, at same hope

622
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: as people at Vanderbilt, at at you know, at Baylor,

623
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: but they do. They need to believe that at Duke

624
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: that if they get the right coach, the right funding

625
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: to get the right recruits, and the right transfer portal guys,

626
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 1: that within three years they can compete for a college

627
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 1: football playoff spot, that they can be a legitimate team

628
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: and not not necessarily maybe not win it, but but

629
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 1: you need hope. And the argument has always been rout that, oh, well,

630
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: this is the way it's always been. Yeah, but we're

631
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: living in a different time, in a different age, and

632
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: people for their attention spans, they need hope more than anything, Like,

633
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: there's no more. This's is just who we are. Think

634
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: about how that plays in in society when we are,

635
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, a responsibility people, I mean like personal responsibility,

636
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: pull yourself up by your by your bootstraps. But you know,

637
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: it's the way it's always been. You actually don't need

638
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: you just you just stay living in the in the ghetto,

639
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: you just stay living in the favelas. You just stay

640
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: living in your double Why it's fine. It's always been

641
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: like that.

642
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 2: So the other criticism that you're getting is, and this

643
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 2: is interesting because this doesn't apply to Alabama. It kind

644
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: of does apply to usc They're not gonna be able

645
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 2: to pull it off on one year's for a few

646
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 2: months notice. But you're getting a lot of people saying,

647
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 2: why are you caping for Arizona State? We can do better?

648
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Speaker 2: Do you believe George that Texas in twenty thirty one

649
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Speaker 2: and twenty thirty two is seeking to schedule a tougher

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Speaker 2: opponent than the one that they played in the Peach

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Speaker 2: Bowl in twenty.

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Speaker 1: Four No, Arizona State was just in a college football playoff.

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Speaker 1: They were a good team this year despite having their

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Speaker 1: quarterback be injured. What did they finished Round ninety four

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Speaker 1: or eight and eight and five?

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Speaker 2: I think eight and five, but with two weeks left

657
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: in the season they were still in the running for

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Speaker 2: the Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, what are we doing? And also and then

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Speaker 1: there's part of me that doesn't care because it's twenty

661
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: thirty Why are we scheduling games that far out? Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I hate that idea. Anyway, I would cancel all games,

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Speaker 1: not twenty twenty eight or passed. They should all be canceled.

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Speaker 2: Canceled culture. Here we go our next topic. One thing

665
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: that you always like to say to me is that

666
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Speaker 2: you do you like to pray for favor and the

667
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: clothes mouths don't get fed. We were just on the

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Speaker 2: topic of Arizona State, and I hate to make it

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Speaker 2: about my alma mater, but a lot of criticism came

670
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: out when Kenny Dillingham got on TV after he got

671
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: his contract extension and was like, somebody out there has

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Speaker 2: This is Phoenix, It's a town of industry. Somebody out

673
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: there can stroke a check for twenty million, become a

674
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Speaker 2: hero overnight. And oh my gosh, people have been making

675
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Speaker 2: fun of for being out on the street begging with

676
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Speaker 2: his cup, like please help Arizona State football, sir. Well,

677
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: he went on the radio in Phoenix on Arizona Sports

678
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 2: this week and he said, somebody is maybe not twenty million,

679
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: but somebody who at this point has responded and will

680
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: find out who eventually with a naming rights deal of

681
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: up to eight figures for their indoor practice facility. That

682
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: he did the call and he got the response. So

683
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Speaker 2: what do you got to say about that, George, About

684
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 2: Kenny Dillingham out here begging and it worked.

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Speaker 1: Clothes mouths don't get fed if you don't ask. The

686
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: answer is always no. He asked for bread and he

687
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: got money. He asked for it and he got it.

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00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: He said what he needed. The Bible tells you this,

689
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 1: Everything tells you to speak it into existence as for it.

690
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: You know, even if you aren't a believer in the Bible,

691
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: forty eight laws of power, the you know the the

692
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: book from Cheryl Sandberg's book Negotiations, and like what everything

693
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: tells you you have? Fortune favors the aggressive. I say

694
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: this in football all the time. Fortune favors the aggressive.

695
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: If you sit back back there, do you ever watch

696
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: beast games, Ralph?

697
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 2: Sometimes you have With my kids.

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Speaker 1: They literally pray on the week they go and it

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Speaker 1: actually kind of may may be mad because they're in

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Speaker 1: the in the pods right right now, in the top ten,

701
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: and they go to one of the ladies and they're like, yo,

702
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: I need to get through right now, like like you

703
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: gotta help me, and she feels this overwhelming need to

704
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Speaker 1: help them get five million dollars over her. And I'm like,

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00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: you're just praying on somebody that you know will do

706
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: because they didn't go to ask one of the more

707
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Speaker 1: aggressive players. Hey, yo, I gotta go through this round, man,

708
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: like you gotta help me. It's like, bro, I'm trying

709
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: to get through this round, so I don't know what

710
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: to tell you. So it's no different. And Kenny Dillingham,

711
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: good on him. Man. He did his thing. He knows

712
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: what his program needs. He asked for it and he

713
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: got it. And Arizona State has needed an indoor practice facility,

714
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: like they have needed shade, shade and a mister. In

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00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: the Arizona summer, it is an inferno out there. It

716
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: is hell on earth. They can't even practice when the

717
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: sun is out and it's still too hot. So yes,

718
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: they needed an indoor practice facility. And somebody stepped up

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Speaker 1: and he's going to continue to do his thing. We've

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Speaker 1: heard Nick Saban. Hey, guys, Alabama, we gotta get on

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Speaker 1: the n Io train. We don't we we can't compete

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Speaker 1: with these other guys. Kirby Smart has done it, Mario

723
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Speaker 1: Christ all these coaches have done it, but we're villainizing

724
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Speaker 1: Kenny Dillingham for doing it. Stand on business, Kenny, I say,

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Speaker 1: I'm a tech Text them right right right right now.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on the donation. Keep talking your.

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Speaker 2: Ish all right. So, because this is my question, right,

728
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Speaker 2: everybody think and people might react to it is maybe

729
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Speaker 2: it's a little greasy, a little slime either's. You know,

730
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Speaker 2: people say, well, teachers and doctors need more money. What

731
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Speaker 2: are we giving money to football for. Kenny Dillingham went

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Speaker 2: out there, he advocated for his own.

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you grew up in a similar house to me.

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Speaker 2: I might have been watching some of these on my own,

736
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Speaker 2: but I'll be watching Joel Olstein ask for money while

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Speaker 2: he's wearing a suit and driving a rolls. They as

738
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Speaker 2: you ask for money because of works.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there's a there's a reason why when you have

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Speaker 1: you know, when your kids trying to do a drive

741
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Speaker 1: at school, why they ask people why they do walkathons, jogathons,

742
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: jump rope the thions and they ask people for money

743
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: because it works. There's a reason why they have fundraising banquets.

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00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: There's a reason why you get emails from Donald Trump,

745
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, whoever else donate to save the world, to

746
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Speaker 1: save the country. Like, there's a reason because it works.

747
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Speaker 2: When kreflow Dollar says, if God wants me to have

748
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Speaker 2: a plane, who's gonna stop God?

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Speaker 1: Exactly, exactly exactly, And I'm pretty sure that God wants

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Speaker 1: me to have a plane too. I know it, I

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Speaker 1: know it. I believe a.

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Speaker 2: Perfect segment because somebody needed a plane to keep their quarterback.

753
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Speaker 2: And that's your former defensive coordinator, mister Tosh Lupoy, who

754
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Speaker 2: is the new head coach of the cal Golden Bears. George,

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Speaker 2: did you see this interview with Ari and Andy with

756
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: Toash Lupoy talking about going out to Hawaii to keep JKS.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes I did. And I have to applaud Tosh

758
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: Lupoy for this, because when you drop your pride and

759
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: you know what you need and you go get it,

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00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 1: you should be applauded. Would you would? How is Dan

761
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: Lanning looked at for showing up for driving from Kansas

762
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: to pitt to sit out there and essentially beg for

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Speaker 1: a job. What does that look like? That looks like

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00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: a man who's motivated for his family, right, Yeah, that

765
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: is looked at as honorable. Tash Lupoi introductory press conference

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Speaker 1: at CAL immediately flies to Hawaii because his quarterback is

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Speaker 1: in Hawaii and he knows Miami LSU. All sorts of

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00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: schools are calling around sniffing around him because they won

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Speaker 1: a He was a true freshman quarterback, so you should

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Speaker 1: have him at least for two years, and he's shown

771
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: that he can spin it. He flies straight to Hawaii,

772
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: goes to go see Jared Kiwi soccerport Telly and then

773
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: and I don't know how to. Couldn't get the man

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00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: a hotel room or something at least for a couple

775
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: of hours or he wants to save the budget, but

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00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: I know the weather is nice out in white Man.

777
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: Slept on a bench, got a nap on a bench,

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Speaker 1: and then flew back. So that's ten hours flying to

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Speaker 1: make sure that your team is intact. That is the

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Speaker 1: type of dogged recruiting why he was able to pull

781
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: players from Oregon in the transfer portal and why will

782
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: Stein got zero. And it's not a not knock on

783
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: will Stein because he's a good coach, but he's not

784
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Speaker 1: the same type of recruiter that that Tash Lupoy is.

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00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: Tash Lupoi is in the talent acquisition business. He's the

786
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Speaker 1: guy if you get in the room, he'll close it.

787
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Speaker 1: If you get in the room, listen, bodies will be

788
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: buried and nobody will ever know what I happened. That's

789
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: who Tash is. Tash is the guy that you want

790
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 1: to take with you. If you gotta go do something

791
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: fun and good and it's hard work. If you gotta

792
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: go dig it, dig a ditch, you want Tash witch you.

793
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: If you gotta go dig a ditch and in throw

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00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: somebody in it, you want Tash witching.

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Speaker 2: I never really thought about that, Like Cooper Perry going

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00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: into the portal for Oregon a kid you like a

797
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 2: lot of kid, I like a lot And he chooses

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00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 2: to go with his defensive coordinator instead of head out

799
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: and play in the SEC for his offensive coordinator. But

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00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: it just goes to show you. I mean, there is

801
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: a lot of thought out there, George, that the age

802
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: of the dogged recruiter is over. That on personality and

803
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: payment you can be good. And this has been one

804
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: of your biggest beefs with Dean Sanders at Colorado, that

805
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: you can never be too big for the job. Just

806
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: because tash Lupoy got his throne doesn't mean that people

807
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: are going to approach him. He still has to go

808
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: out and get people. And I do think that there

809
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: is still room for that personal touch. I've asked you

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00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: this before, George. If you could save five percent every

811
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 2: time you go to the grocery store. But in going

812
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: to the grocery store, you completely eliminate any opportunity to

813
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: interact with any other human being. That no matter how

814
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: much stuff you have in your cart, you have to

815
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Speaker 2: go through self checkout. You can't ask anybody where anything is,

816
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 2: you can't use any human help. Is that five percent

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00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: worth it to you.

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00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: No, no, God no, I don't even like self checkout.

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Speaker 1: I prefer for for humans to help me. This is

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Speaker 1: the job, this is what I've grown accustomed to. I

821
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Speaker 1: don't want to like, I'm not a what is jen whatever?

822
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: That want to have no interaction with other humans. I'm

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Speaker 1: not him, I'm not him.

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Speaker 2: There.

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00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, how are you, how's your family? Blah blah blah,

826
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: like yes, some some human interaction. And the idea that

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Speaker 1: that recruiting is the lifeblood of the program, and the

828
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: idea that you can just throw money at people. That

829
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: doesn't work because everybody's offering money, like it did, like

830
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: and kids turned down more money to go to places

831
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: all the time. Like there's a lot of kids at

832
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: Oregon signed that weren't that were not their top offer.

833
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: They want to go play for Dan Lanning, and they

834
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: want to go to the NFL. They want to the

835
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: things that that the school offers. They want those things.

836
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: Same thing with Texas, Georgia, Miami. So all those kids

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Speaker 1: that throwose schools get they didn't get them solely because

838
00:53:54,600 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: of money, because everybody was offering them money everybody. So

839
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: you gotta get out and hustle. Look at the look

840
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: at the college football Playoff. Is Ryan Day and his

841
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: staff like big time recruiters and will beat the streets. Yes, yeah,

842
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: Dan Landing at Oregon. Yes, Georgia. Yes, Kirby Smart and

843
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: the coaches are doing this too, Mario Cristobaul animal, who

844
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: else is in the playoff? Indiana with with with with

845
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Speaker 1: with Kurt Signetti with their evaluation and they are relationship

846
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Speaker 1: people and all of that stuff, same same thing. Notre

847
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Speaker 1: Dame with Marcus Freeman. This is why they don't have kids,

848
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: Dick Dad, zero de commitments. Those are relationships. Texas is

849
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: offering money. Texas A and M is offering money. The

850
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: USC is offering money that unless you get like there's

851
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: few times where they go where the highest paid, Like

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Speaker 1: the kid Bowman there, there was talk that he didn't

853
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: even want to go to USC, that maybe he wanted

854
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: to go to Georgia more, but the bag was so

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00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 1: incredible that he couldn't turn it down. That's not That's

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00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: not what happens the vast majority of the time, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if it comes down to if it comes down

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Speaker 2: to one hundred k here, one hundred K there, you're

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00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 2: going to go to the place that makes you feel

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Speaker 2: the most wanted, yep, the most needed, the most necessary,

861
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 2: and so yeah, shout out to Tash Loupoy. It is

862
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: almost March, George, which means that it's a good time

863
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 2: to bring up college basketball. I know you, I know

864
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: you're a big basketball fan. I'm a big basketball fan.

865
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: It's funny. It's funny because when you and I are

866
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: on the phone, we are we talk basketball. When we

867
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: were on the show, we talked football. But it's nice.

868
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: You don't always want to make your favorite things your job.

869
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 2: You really don't like you want to hold some stuff

870
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 2: back for yourself. So a big basketball fan, you're a

871
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 2: big basketball fan. Jerome Tang, the head coach of Kansas State,

872
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: got fired for cons with about nineteen million dollars left

873
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 2: on his contract. And the way I want to turn

874
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 2: around and make that about college football is, do you

875
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 2: think that if Kansas State, if in the little apple

876
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 2: in Manhattan, if they get away with not having to

877
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 2: pay Jerome Tang a cent of what they owed him

878
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 2: for the rest of his contract just because he ran

879
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 2: his mouth and bad mouthed his players, do you think

880
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 2: that's going to change the way some of these college

881
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 2: football coaches act out here? In these streets, especially a

882
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 2: guy like Lane Kiffen. If you can lose your job

883
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 2: and all of the money on your contract for just

884
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 2: speaking your mind, are we going to see some of

885
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 2: these college football coaches shut up for once?

886
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: You damn right, dude, You damn right. They will. But

887
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen ain't gole be one of them, because he

888
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: he will find a way to light his life on

889
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: fire historically, so so he'll keep running into the burning

890
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: building with no with with with no fire suit and

891
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: no oxygen mask on until until until somebody has to

892
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: come in there and rescue him. And he was just

893
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: on the top twenty like most impressions in college football.

894
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, yeah, I'm doing it.

895
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: They talking about me? Yes, yes, yes, So I.

896
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: Don't I do think that people are more careful by

897
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: what the things that they say, like college football coaches

898
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: are very buttoned up now. But at the same point

899
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: in point in time, Tang took it a little further,

900
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: like Tang took it to like Mike Leech territory because

901
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: I used to get mad at Mike Bleach too.

902
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: I used to get mad at Mike Leach too. That's

903
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 2: the one thing you bring up Mike Cleach. I actually,

904
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 2: I think there's definitely some revisionist history as far as

905
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 2: Mike Leach being as beloved as he is. And you

906
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: know how hard I ride for guys from Arizona who's

907
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 2: on for Arizona or Wyoming because I was born in Wyoming.

908
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 2: Mike Leach is one of mine. He's from the state

909
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: of Wyoming. He never played college football. He was a lawyer.

910
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: He went into college football. He had a lot of success.

911
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 2: He's very innovative. He ruffled a lot of feathers, and

912
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: people don't seem to be willing to admit that he

913
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 2: would ruffle their feathers. He used to piss me off

914
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 2: all the time. We talked about it on this show plenty,

915
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 2: the stuff he's said about kids from California, and you

916
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: having kids in California, Like I just you know, they

917
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: got to worry about cleaning up their streets or whatever.

918
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: Ect I But do you think he would have been

919
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: better behaved if he knew that a university could turn

920
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 2: around to take food off his table? Or do you

921
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: think he's like Lane Kiffin where there is no price.

922
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: Listen, Lane Kiffin can sit up there and act all

923
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: he wants like that. There is I don't know how

924
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: much money I make, and there's not a price. Nah,

925
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: there was a price. There was a price to go

926
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: to LSU. There's a price for his loyalty, waxually or

927
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: his presence. There's a price for his presence. I don't

928
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: know if there's a price for his loyalty, but there

929
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: is a price for his presence. And so I think

930
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: the Tang will land on his feet somewhere because he

931
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: has been to the tournament. He's put out some good teams.

932
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: But it's hard now. I mean, look at Mit Cronin

933
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: over there at UCLA. He just said some things that

934
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: people didn't like, and you know when he was talking

935
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: about Michigan State Students Section. And it's hard, especially when

936
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: you're not winning. And the Big Ten schedule is clearly

937
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: impacting Oregon, Washington, USC Listen, I don't know if these

938
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: teams ever win a Big Ten title game.

939
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 2: So that's my my ultimate question for you is Jerome

940
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 2: Tang might have lost nineteen million dollars speak in his mind.

941
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: We'll see how this plays out, and doubt it.

942
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: I doubt this because if he gets paid this money

943
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: and they can't fire him for cause, oh Lord, have mercy.

944
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is my question for you. What amount

945
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: of money would it take for you to never talk

946
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: about college football and public ever? Again? You'd still talk

947
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 2: about it with your friends, but you can't put anything online.

948
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 2: You can't reply to anybody. You can't tell anybody their

949
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: ideas sucked.

950
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: I can't tell I can't talk about Oregon.

951
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: Either, not publicly. No, no, like to your friends tech

952
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: like I you've got a group chat, but you can't

953
01:00:58,680 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 2: reply to.

954
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: Anybody asking me how much would it cost to shut up?

955
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: To not to essentially get off of Twitter? And because

956
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: I would have to delete my Twitter or you said

957
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: no temptation or I would have to wait way hold up,

958
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: And that means I can't even work in sports anymore.

959
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: Right, Oh there, you cannot. You cannot bring up college

960
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: football in public.

961
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: I'll just go all I would go all NBA or

962
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: or or all NFL and just never talk about it.

963
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: And somebody bringing bringing very like, listen, that is Baltimore.

964
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: We don't we don't say that name. We don't even

965
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: talk about that that.

966
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 2: You couldn't even say like that was Spencer Rattler from

967
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 2: South Carolina through that touchdown?

968
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: No I'd be like, yeah that was a former be like, yo,

969
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: that was uh Pinnacle High Schools.

970
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 2: We don't even know where this man, this man just

971
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 2: popped up. Okay, So number amount of money.

972
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, based upon future earning potential and everything else,

973
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: probably thirty million, thirty million. And then I would go

974
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: all into another sport so they can ban me from

975
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: that too, and then I'll take I'll just keep taking

976
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: taking Jimbo Fisher buyouts buddy until I until I until

977
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: I end up full politics.

978
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 2: Hey, that's the path. That's why the Clay Travis was

979
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 2: one of the number one number one you can type

980
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 2: Joe Biden has dementia and be a college football influencer.

981
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 2: How about that text?

982
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: How about that text Shannit Terry. But I was like

983
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: Clay Travis, question mark, he's a political grifter. Now he's no,

984
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: and mind I did a college football show, College Football

985
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: College Football Countdown on Fox Sports one with Clay Travis.

986
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: So so this is not a like, oh, you just

987
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: hate No. I actually liked Clay in the time, actually,

988
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: and I really do believe that Clay's a smart person.

989
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: He's a lawyer, Like he's an actual smart person and

990
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: smart people make the most dangerous people. Yeah.

991
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 2: And the other thing is like, I don't with no

992
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 2: disrespect to anybody's politics. If you're conservative, cools, so is

993
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 2: where everybody where I'm from everybody, it's not you know,

994
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 2: it is what it is human beings. We all have

995
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 2: different perspectives. But if if ninety nine percent of my

996
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 2: poster are about one thing and the other one is

997
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: about college football and most of my impressions come from

998
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 2: the ninety nine other things, come on.

999
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: Man, Yes he doesn't show with buck about not college football. Yes,

1000
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 1: he just so clearly, Yelle, Tennessee.

1001
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 2: Technically, Leah Thomas was a college swimmer, so maybe he

1002
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 2: is a college sports influencer since that's the only thing

1003
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 2: he talks about. But all right, so, but so, I

1004
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 2: will say this, if somebody offered me ten thousand dollars

1005
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 2: to shut up about college football, I would sign the

1006
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 2: contract and then I'd immediately tweet about college football and

1007
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 2: I'd give the money back. Just get sued it just like, yeah,

1008
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 2: I'm not so good with the rules. I'm not saying.

1009
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: You would dare you miss an whole situation and figure

1010
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: it out in court.

1011
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 2: They'd be like, it's been three months. Why hasn't he

1012
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 2: cashed this check in case? Yep, if I die, If

1013
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 2: I die, my wife cashed a check, because then there's

1014
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 2: no way. Yeah, exactly. Oh my gosh, all right, what's

1015
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 2: next week? I guess we got to talk about Georgia

1016
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 2: getting players arrested. I don't want to focus on the

1017
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 2: fact that Georgia got two more players arrested for traffic violations.

1018
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 2: I don't want that to be the focus. Chris Cole,

1019
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 2: Derek at Kinnigbond. Sorry, guys, it just at this point

1020
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: people aren't going to remember your name anyway because you're

1021
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 2: not pioneers exactly like you got arrested in Athens. I

1022
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 2: actually want to talk about this. So both players arrested,

1023
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: they're both linebackers. They were speeding and reckless driving, which

1024
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 2: is not funny in Athens at this point, it's just

1025
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 2: not it's you can't right. Cole was booked at ten

1026
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 2: at night, Kinnigbond was booked at ten thirty at night.

1027
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 2: And I mean, these are driving offenses that triggered being custody.

1028
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 2: George the bail what do you think the amount of

1029
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 2: bail money that it took to get these two Georgia

1030
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 2: line backers out of jail? What would be sensible for

1031
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 2: getting arrested? Okay?

1032
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: Okay, So so initially right I was thinking, oh, probably

1033
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: like five thousand dollars. But then I thought about it

1034
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: that like if you get a dui, you essentially can

1035
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: get or you get you know, drunken in public and

1036
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: there was no you know, physical stuff that went on.

1037
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: You could just get o ard. We release on your

1038
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: own recognizance. So after I thought about it, I was like,

1039
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: maybe like a thousand bucks, five hundred bucks, thousand bucks.

1040
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 2: The two combined, and I don't I do not have

1041
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 2: any information as to why they are separate amounts. The

1042
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: minimum bail for Chris Cole was twenty six dollars and

1043
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 2: the minimum bail for tearing a kidding bund was thirty

1044
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 2: nine dollars, a total of sixty seven.

1045
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: Okay, So for sixty seven dollars, will they allow you

1046
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: to build yourself out? Because you can't bail yourself out

1047
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: of jail, so like somebody else has to be a

1048
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: part of that process. So I wonder if for sixty

1049
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: seven dollars they will allow you to do it.

1050
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 2: If I went to Athens lock up and I was

1051
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 2: there to bail Chris Cole out of jail, okay, and

1052
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I laid down a twenty and a ten.

1053
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 2: Am I am I being paid asking for for four

1054
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 2: ones back? No?

1055
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: I need my change?

1056
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 2: Can I get four dollars?

1057
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: You don't tell the law to keep their change.

1058
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 2: Get out of here. Do you imagine you imagine going

1059
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 2: to bail them out? And they turn around the digital

1060
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 2: reader and it's like, it's gonna ask you a question.

1061
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 2: That's everybody, everybody in the service industry. It's just gonna

1062
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 2: ask you a question.

1063
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna it's not it's not it's not me. They're

1064
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: gonna ask you a question. Yeah, the machine wants to

1065
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: ask you something.

1066
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 2: Just a twenty percent on bail, oh my. But you

1067
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 2: might also get like a frequent they might've got like

1068
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 2: a frequent bailout discount, like at a punch card for

1069
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 2: the for Athens PD God dang man. Okay. At this point,

1070
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 2: and they've only had this is gonna sound stupid, but

1071
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 2: they've only had five arrests in the last like thirteen months.

1072
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 2: So it's this is.

1073
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:27,919
Speaker 1: A progress, progress, not perfection.

1074
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's, for lack of a better term, slowing down

1075
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 2: it happens.

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01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: Wow, I see what you do? Right there?

1077
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 2: Is it even humanly possible for Kirby Smart to lose

1078
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 2: his job over this?

1079
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: Not as long as he's winning football games. It ain't.

1080
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: As long as he's making the college football playoffs. Not

1081
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 1: and as long as it's going down. No, no, no,

1082
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: he would And I mean this with no like insensitivity.

1083
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 1: He can't have another incident where where where somebody dies. No,

1084
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: that's gonna that's gonna become a problem. And then and really, truthfully,

1085
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: the main issue is is that it hasn't happened to

1086
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: the right people, right and and that's an unfortunate part

1087
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: about life, is that people only care about gun safety

1088
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: and something something when it or you know, roller coaster safety,

1089
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: like in uh, it was in the Midwest a few

1090
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: years ago, where it was there's this water ride that

1091
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: that was deemed unsafe, but they didn't fix it, and

1092
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: then somebody in the city council or somebody's uh, somebody

1093
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: in their family died. Ride gets shut down. All of

1094
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: these other things have to happen, and it's unfortunate that

1095
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 1: it has to be the right person who had happened

1096
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: to for things to actually change. But that's what it

1097
01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: is in Athens. Like like, let let the governor daughter

1098
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 1: get hit by or the lieutenant governor's daughter get or

1099
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 1: son get hit by a Georgia player who was speeding.

1100
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 1: What do you think is gonna happen to Kirby Smart?

1101
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: He's gonna come under a lot of heat.

1102
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 2: Right. It just sucks that it wasn't enough to And

1103
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 2: I'm also not one of those people. I'm gonna blame

1104
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 2: the coach for what players want to do. Like they're young,

1105
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 2: they got money, they run real fast, They're gonna want to.

1106
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 2: I mean, I've listened to some of your stories, George,

1107
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,839
Speaker 2: A little bit of an off road vehicle in Mexico

1108
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 2: type stuff in the in the NFL, maybe risking your paycheck.

1109
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: Yes, a little bit. So Okay, So when I re

1110
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: signed in Jacksonville, I bought a CLS five point fifty

1111
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: Mercedes Benz. Then I got it rentacked. I had like

1112
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 1: seven hundred horsepower. One of the first things I did

1113
01:10:56,360 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 1: is I went on nine a in floor and proceeded

1114
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: to drive one hundred and twenty miles an hour. So

1115
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: but I did not get pulled over, thank god. But

1116
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: it was very unsafe, and I could have died. I've

1117
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: never been that fast again, I've been one hundred miles

1118
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 1: an hour on a motorcycle, but then I crashed on

1119
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 1: a motorcycle later. So like, it's and I don't do

1120
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: these things. So I understand that I walked through the

1121
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: rain drop. So I understand where these kids like, because

1122
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 1: at that point in time, I still felt invisible.

1123
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 2: Ralph.

1124
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: I did not believe I could die. I knew eventually

1125
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: I would die, but I didn't think I could die

1126
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 1: any like. I didn't think that I bro listen, how

1127
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: stupid that this is. I was like, because when when

1128
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 1: I was in high school, I was like, Ooh, I

1129
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 1: won't wear my seat belt all the time because I'm

1130
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: cool because if I see an accident coming, I'll grab

1131
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: my seat belt and then I'll just buckle it in.

1132
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sound logic.

1133
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: I can't beat the only person who thought that idiocy.

1134
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 2: But I'm one hundred percent sure after yesterday, that's how

1135
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 2: LaMelo Ball thinks. Buddy, I live out here. He'd been

1136
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 2: terrorizing these streets.

1137
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 1: For years, bro Bro, he drives like a maniac.

1138
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yesterday it and maybe maybe that's what it takes.

1139
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 2: And unfortunately for Georgia, it seems like losing a member

1140
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 2: of your staff, losing a member of your team is

1141
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 2: not enough. But but is it Kirby Smart's fault? Do

1142
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 2: you think Kirby Smart Smart's not telling them? Like do

1143
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 2: you think it's not mentioned more at this school than

1144
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:53,560
Speaker 2: any other school? But at some point, like the responsibility

1145
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 2: goes somewhere, and you're right if it ends up? If

1146
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 2: did they end up hitting a bisy some Well, didn't

1147
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 2: somebody two years ago run into a house.

1148
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: Like the front of the house so many I believe

1149
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,919
Speaker 1: that that may have happened, but I don't remember exactly.

1150
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 2: I just I'm saying I've been to Athens a few times.

1151
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 2: I don't even know how you could some twisty roads

1152
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 2: and forests and woods and it just seems like maybe

1153
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 2: not a good idea, but you got young, you got money.

1154
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 2: These are the same kids that jumped off the swing

1155
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 2: set to see if they could set a record, Like

1156
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 2: that's just the that's what it's like being a guy.

1157
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 1: We used to do cherry drops and death drops off

1158
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: the off the bar like just crazy. Yeah, oh I

1159
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: can't play the Urban Meyer clip right right, right, right now,

1160
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 1: because they're not going to be able to hear it.

1161
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 2: Okay, So I just want to ask you one question.

1162
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 2: So Alex Smith went on a podcast and he said

1163
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 2: that Urban Meyer, when he was had coaching Utah used

1164
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 2: to make the quarterbacks wrestle the linebackers in Matt drills.

1165
01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 2: And so I need two things from you, George. Can

1166
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 2: you explain people what a matt drill is? Uh? And

1167
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 2: what would you have done when you were at Oregon

1168
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 2: if they put you in matt drills against the special teamers.

1169
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: Against what? Well, I beat up one of our one

1170
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: of our punters my freshman year, so I would have

1171
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 1: so you know how that would have gone. But it

1172
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 1: was not my fault. He started this and he wouldn't quit.

1173
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 1: He was actually the backup punter and and he just

1174
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't let let up, and so you know happened. Things happen.

1175
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: But anyways, so a Matt drill, it's essentially like a

1176
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 1: wrestling match until somebody quits.

1177
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 2: It's like to get off the mat, and like one

1178
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 2: person's job is to get off and one person's job

1179
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 2: is to keep them on. You watched the University of

1180
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 2: Florida documentary. You saw how hard those guys worked. Yep,

1181
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 2: you heard this story from Alex Smith. He's talking about

1182
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 2: being an eighteen year old quarterback wrestling return missionaries. We're

1183
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 2: twenty four.

1184
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: He because, and I get it, Urban Meyer. He wanted

1185
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 1: to know who your dogs were. He was like, who

1186
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: is going to bite when like when they get backed

1187
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 1: in the corner, who is gonna bite? And who's just

1188
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: gonna just give up? And I would question to be.

1189
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 2: Honest, be honest, George, could you have played for Urban

1190
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 2: Meyer at Utah or Florida based on everything you've seen in.

1191
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 1: One hundred I wouldn't have liked it like some of

1192
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: the other players did. But I was just so hyper competitive.

1193
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: And this is actually like where I believe a man's

1194
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 1: strengths flow from the same well as weaknesses. One of

1195
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: the things that is the best things about me is

1196
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 1: that I refuse to quit. And one of the best

1197
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 1: and one of the worst things about me is that

1198
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 1: I don't know when to quit. I don't know when

1199
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: to stop and just start all the throw it in

1200
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 1: the trash and start all over. I'm getting better at it.

1201
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: And this goes for relationships and other things where like

1202
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,799
Speaker 1: things I've stated things way too long when I was younger,

1203
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 1: because I just didn't want to quit. I'm just a fighter,

1204
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: and so I would rather I would rather die than quit,

1205
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: like I don't know how to quit. They're the difference

1206
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: in your body failing you and you saying I can't

1207
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: take this anymore. Like I watched a show called Alone.

1208
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: I love it. It's one of one of my favorite

1209
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 1: shows where you they put them out in a remote location.

1210
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: They're literally alone, and they have to survive for as

1211
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: many days as they can. The winter wins. The person

1212
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 1: who survives the longest wins half million dollars. And there

1213
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 1: are sometimes where people are in cushy situations like they're

1214
01:16:56,280 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: they're they're catching fish, they homeboys. Timber killed a moose,

1215
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 1: everything else, and he wanted the last two people left.

1216
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: He had more resources he had, but he just decided.

1217
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 1: He was like, I don't know how long the other

1218
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: dude is gonna be be out here, So I'm done

1219
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 1: eighty three days, Ralph, and the other dude was about

1220
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 1: to crack two, and he made it eighty four because

1221
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 1: they went to go get him. Ralph. I would have

1222
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 1: been out there until they pulled me out. There is

1223
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: no tap I mean out there. There are some times

1224
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 1: where like people have had physical things where like they

1225
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: had a bowel obstruction or something like. That's that's different.

1226
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: Like you don't have a choice if your body fails you.

1227
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 1: But if you're just out there, like I don't want

1228
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 1: to do this no more. I mean I get that too,

1229
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 1: but but like you're almost there, just just fight the

1230
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: fight until it's over.

1231
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's the until it's overpart that I wonder

1232
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 2: if if many of us understand I got. I got

1233
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 2: a very wise friend who says who says to me,

1234
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 2: directed it to me once. He's like, you know, the

1235
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 2: point of fighting is to win, right, Yeah, He's like,

1236
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 2: it's not to keep fight. You don't fight to fight.

1237
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,520
Speaker 2: He's like, if you want to fight ten years ago,

1238
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 2: why are you still swinging exactly? Like it's very very smart.

1239
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:32,600
Speaker 1: Dan Dan Lanning says something to Oregon, and I know

1240
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 1: the other coaches say similar, similar things, but I love it,

1241
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 1: says He tells him, Yo, we're going out there a

1242
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,759
Speaker 1: battle for four quarters or for however long it takes.

1243
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: So four quarters or however long it takes. If it's

1244
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: six overtimes, if it's eight overtimes, that's however long it

1245
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: however long it takes.

1246
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 2: So do you.

1247
01:18:58,840 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: Do you.

1248
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 2: Think would you tell the modern era player, like if

1249
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 2: you knew that there was somebody out there that was

1250
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 2: close to what urban Meyer was at Utah at Florida.

1251
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 2: First of all, can that type of coaching happen now?

1252
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 2: And if it was happening, if he knew it was happening,

1253
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 2: do you think kids should gravitate toward that over something

1254
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 2: else just to find out about themselves.

1255
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 1: I do believe that everybody should have to do hard

1256
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 1: things right, that hard things build character. Hard things are

1257
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: paramount for you to be able to be successful in life.

1258
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 1: I also believe that that what urban Meyer was doing

1259
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: at that time would never fly today. Kids just wouldn't

1260
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 1: sign up for it at at at a high rate.

1261
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:00,879
Speaker 1: Some of it was abusive. He overlooked stuff that that

1262
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,799
Speaker 1: that God should have been suspended for. He put winning

1263
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: over everything else, and you can't do that nowadays, Like

1264
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 1: there's too much responsibility that a coach has to have.

1265
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:15,600
Speaker 1: That's why I didn't work in Jacksonville. Hmmm, because he

1266
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: tried to kick the punter and kick the kicker and

1267
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: all this. It ain't gonna work val it ain't gonna

1268
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 1: work because if you kick my son, I'm showing up

1269
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: at your office. Homie.

1270
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 2: Ye that's fair, that's fair, all right, So get it

1271
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 2: over with. Let's end the show. Get over you just

1272
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 2: bring your dumb thing to the forefront.

1273
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: Hold on, I want to see if you know what

1274
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: I know, I know what it is. So what is it?

1275
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 2: Ralph?

1276
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:46,600
Speaker 1: What?

1277
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:46,680
Speaker 2: What?

1278
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 1: How is George being vindicated today?

1279
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:57,600
Speaker 2: Ralph? Well, two things you this this has nothing. I

1280
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 2: know what it is that you want to talk about.

1281
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 2: Number One, one, you're not vindicated because this person's opinion

1282
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 2: is that something was good and now isn't and your

1283
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 2: opinion is that it was never good. So number one,

1284
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 2: you're not vindicated. Number two on the show notes, when

1285
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 2: you sent over your surprise topic, you misspelled vindicated, so

1286
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Speaker 2: maybe you are vindicated.

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01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: You're a dirty dog dude.

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01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 2: You know.

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01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: I'm not a good speller, and we were just talking

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01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: and I just phonetically spelled. I spelled it. I spelled

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01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: like my six year old spells like you never know,

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01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 1: like they're trying to spell something, so they just put

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01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: it up like it makes sense. But you're like, that's

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01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: not actually how you spell it. For worse, that I

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01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 1: don't that I know how to use. I don't know words,

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01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,759
Speaker 1: I don't know how to use properly, But that doesn't

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01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: mean that I know how to spell them.

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01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad that I'm glad that I upset you.

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01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 2: Now go ahead and claim your victory. Go for it.

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01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: Let's go Okay. So by that description, I do believe

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01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: that Ralph no what I'm talking about. So I have

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01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 1: been of the opinion that Reese's pieces suck. Reese's peanut

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01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: butter cups, steak, chocolate, and peanut butter have no business together,

1304
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: not even in a protein bar, not even in a

1305
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: in a in a shake, none of that. And yes,

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01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 1: I have a little bit of a chocolate snob.

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01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 2: No, you're just doctor Umar of sugar products.

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01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:38,600
Speaker 1: So and there is vindication for me because Brad Reese,

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01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:45,480
Speaker 1: the inventor of Reese's Peanut butter cup's grandson, is criticizing

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01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 1: the Hershey Company, which now owns it, saying that they

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01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 1: have quietly been replacing the candy's flagship chocolate and peanut

1312
01:22:55,360 --> 01:23:02,599
Speaker 1: butter ingredients with with manufactured chemical nonsense. That it's not

1313
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 1: real peanut butter, it is some bs chocolate and you

1314
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 1: know what that might be. Why I don't like it

1315
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: and why I think it's hot garbage is because they

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01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: are using inferior products. You if you make me a

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01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 1: homemade version of these, I might like it, but they

1318
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 1: have scarred everything. Dude, If you give me a and

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01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: the same thing with butterfingers too, if you, Ralph, if

1320
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 1: you when when kids go out for Chris, I'm sorry

1321
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 1: for Halloween and they get candy in all of this stuff.

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01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: When why I didn't trigger treat as a kid, But

1323
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:51,839
Speaker 1: if I had, and you gave me twenty reciss pieces

1324
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 1: in the bags and all this stuff. If I were starving, Ralph,

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01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 1: I would have to be near death to eat this.

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01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: I would trade you every I would trade you fifty

1327
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: recent peanut butter cups for one Almond Joy. Almond Joy

1328
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 1: is a superior candy. Two resist it is this is

1329
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 1: I and people come back with, hey, yo, this is

1330
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 1: the most It's one of the top selling candids of

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01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 1: all time. That doesn't make it good because people like

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01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 1: bad things every single day. So yes, vindication for your boy.

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01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 1: They're using garbage products and tarnish the legacy of a

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01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 1: great product that clearly people were enjoying since to what

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01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 1: the twenties and now it has been dumbed down to

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01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:59,600
Speaker 1: some there. This is the pink slime version. You know

1337
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,719
Speaker 1: how to burgers were using pink slime. They have essentially

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01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 1: pink slimed Reese's peanut buttercups. And clearly that's why I don't.

1339
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 1: I can't fool with them. So, yes, vindication for you boys.

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01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 1: It feels good.

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01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, what do you want from me here?

1342
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: Man?

1343
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 2: To just take it right? So two things. Thing. Number one,

1344
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 2: you're on the same Internet that I'm on. Right, So

1345
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 2: your girl Marjorie Taylor Green, she's out here and people

1346
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 2: are like, oh, she switched side. She's one of us.

1347
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,720
Speaker 2: Now she did switch sides. She's not one of you.

1348
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 2: She disagrees with you about one thing. Man, Reese says

1349
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 2: that Reese's peanut buttercups suck. Now you're not on your side.

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01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 1: Yes he is.

1351
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 2: He's probably so proud of his grandfather's invention. The thing

1352
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,759
Speaker 2: you've been slandering your entire life.

1353
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 1: Slandering it because of what he's saying.

1354
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 2: And number two, I'm still gonna eat that garbage, man.

1355
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 2: You know garbage. You probably eat the Cereal too. Don't

1356
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 2: you give me the wind Dex flavored Recey's peanut butter cups.

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01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 2: I don't know his chemicals. Whatever I got, I'm not

1358
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 2: trying to stick around till I'm ninety.

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01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 1: Speaking of this, I saw a video the other day

1360
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 1: of Nick fuint test and I was like, and it

1361
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 1: made me remember and because it made me remember the

1362
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 1: like because you brought up the Marjorie Taylor Green thing, right,

1363
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 1: and it made me think about something that I say

1364
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 1: all the time, don't discount a message because you don't

1365
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: like the messenger. And so I watched the video and

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01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 1: I was like, hmm, he kind of made a little

1367
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 1: bit of sense, and then I felt like icky inside.

1368
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 2: I just the idea that you're over there with your

1369
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 2: arm around Brad Reeves being like, yeah, me and Brad,

1370
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 2: we we both hate Reese's being buttercups. We do be like.

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01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,759
Speaker 1: Because he does hate it now clearly he clearly hates

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01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: what they're putting out, and I hate what they're putting out.

1373
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 1: So we're simpatico. We're like, I'm on the top though.

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01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 2: You're the You are the he's the Reese and you're

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01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 2: the piece.

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01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh, so I was like, and and I'm and

1377
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 1: and I'm on top. But then this made me think

1378
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 1: about because we've been watching the Winter Olympics, the dual,

1379
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 1: the dual sledding, whose idea was it to be like, yo, yo,

1380
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 1: we should both slid on top of each other and

1381
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna go butt butt tont.

1382
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 2: Probably allm enjoy fans.

1383
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 1: Okay, this podcast is now over. You guys, make sure

1384
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 1: that you like to share, subscribe, get notifications, tell a

1385
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 1: friend about the show, peace out and share. All right,

1386
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,919
Speaker 1: next thing, we gotta talk about the college football Playoff,

1387
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: this potential expansion again, right, and this time to twenty

1388
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 1: four teams.

1389
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 2: Now.

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01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,720
Speaker 1: I have been an expansion man from the beginning. From

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01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 1: the beginning when it was at two teams, I was like,

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01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 1: that is clearly not enough and not representative, because you

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01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,719
Speaker 1: have teams that finish undefeated and teams that are clearly

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01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: very good at that point in time that should be

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01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 1: able to compete for a national championship. Then you go

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01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 1: to four teams, then you go to eight excuse me,

1397
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 1: then you go to twelve teams. Now they're talking about

1398
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 1: a twenty four team expansion, and to me, this is

1399
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 1: a bridge way too far, way too far. There are

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01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 1: only sixty eight Power four teams, including Notre Dame, and

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01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 1: we want to put thirty four percent of them in

1402
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 1: How was that exclusive territory? So that's first thing. But

1403
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 1: I understand why people want to do this because they're like, yo,

1404
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 1: there's so many teams that can win. Now there's parody.

1405
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 1: All it is the eight seed one last year when

1406
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 1: well the year before, when Ohio State won. Now, Ohio

1407
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 1: State's president came out and he made some very good

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01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 1: points about this. He said that number one, that a

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01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 1: team that a team like Ohio State or Oregon think

1410
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 1: about Oregon a year ago. Oregon's the number one team

1411
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:51,639
Speaker 1: in the country. You have four teams in the playoff.

1412
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 1: Ohio State is ranked eighth, and that's probably the only

1413
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 1: team that could have beaten Oregon. So Oregon ends up

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01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 1: with a national championship if you only have a fourteen playoff.

1415
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 1: But I was never four and okay with just a

1416
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 1: fourteen playoff, And I didn't love the twelve because I

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01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:11,680
Speaker 1: believe the buys are absolutely awful. You've only out of

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01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 1: eight games with teams with buys, only one of them

1419
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:18,600
Speaker 1: is one. That's an alarming stat and granted it is

1420
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 1: still a small sample size, but that ain't it. Well,

1421
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:26,599
Speaker 1: now you got this twenty fourteen playoff that is being

1422
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 1: proposed by the Big Tens commissioner, mister Tony Patiti, and

1423
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 1: he's talking about having this in place by the twenty

1424
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 1: twenty nine season. And this is the newest idea from

1425
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: the Big ten think tanks that would feature twenty three

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01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 1: bids that would be a signed via at large selection

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01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 1: with one automatic bid for the group of five. Now,

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01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: how do we think that this is going to work? People?

1429
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 1: How do we believe that this is going to work?

1430
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:58,680
Speaker 1: Because if they are all at large bids, let's just

1431
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 1: blow this out for a second. The SEC. There are

1432
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 1: people who believe that the SEC is under ranked according

1433
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 1: to mister Greg Sanki, their commissioner, but of course he's

1434
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 1: gonna say that. And then there are people who live

1435
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 1: in reality, in the real world who know that the

1436
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 1: SEC at this point in time, we're not talking about

1437
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 1: the old days, because the old days are the old

1438
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 1: days that at this point in time, they are getting

1439
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 1: way more credit than what they deserve. And you would

1440
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:32,599
Speaker 1: have ten, at nine or ten of the SEC teams

1441
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 1: be in this twenty four team playoffs. So there is

1442
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 1: no advantage for the Big ten or even any of

1443
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:45,559
Speaker 1: the other conferences to sign up for this, because do

1444
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: we really believe the ACC or the Big twelve are

1445
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 1: gonna get a fair shake? No, right, and the idea,

1446
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:55,719
Speaker 1: and then there's the autobid idea that one conference, because

1447
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 1: of their history, they should get so much because of

1448
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 1: the amount of national championships they've won. How does that

1449
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: make any sense? It doesn't. It should be based upon rankings.

1450
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, there's only a

1451
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 1: small percentage of teams that realistically have a chance to

1452
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 1: win a national championship. And the issue is is that

1453
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:21,679
Speaker 1: money continues to get in the way of good decision making.

1454
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 1: Money continues to get in the way of good decision

1455
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 1: making because they're looking at these games. Oh my gosh,

1456
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 1: so much more inventory to the college football playoff that

1457
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 1: means more money. Well, the biggest issues sitting in front

1458
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 1: of college football right now are the calendar, the transfer portal, nil,

1459
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 1: and coaches leaving during the season. Those are the four

1460
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 1: biggest problems that you have. And instead of fixing those

1461
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 1: four problems now you're trying to stack another significant problem

1462
01:32:56,040 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 1: on and then the solution is, oh, well, it's not

1463
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 1: going to extend the season any longer, it'll fit within it. Well,

1464
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 1: the issue is is that the season is already too long.

1465
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 1: It needs to be done January first. So then the

1466
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 1: idea that this twenty four team playoff is going to

1467
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 1: solve problems, it's not. It is going to just reinforce

1468
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 1: the bias that lives out in the world. So there

1469
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 1: needs to be some sort of tangible way to do this.

1470
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 1: And guess what, I have a solution. Got a solution

1471
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 1: for you. But first let me run down for how

1472
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 1: this whole college football playoff would have worked. Here's the

1473
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 1: twenty four team field from last year. You would have

1474
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 1: had Indiana playing the winner of USC and Arizona. Arizona

1475
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 1: had no chance to win a national championship and neither

1476
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: did USC. Why do we have them in there? Then

1477
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 1: you got Alabama playing JMU. Okay, we know how that

1478
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:01,760
Speaker 1: win ends, but I'm not mad at that because they

1479
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 1: would have earned their way in Okay, fine BYU in Houston,

1480
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 1: Texas and Tulane Vanderbilt. And now we're just playing games

1481
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 1: for the sake of playing games instead of having a

1482
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 1: real competitive matchups, and people did tell you, well, they

1483
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 1: do it in the FCS. Yes they do, Yes they do.

1484
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:30,720
Speaker 1: But the money is different, the situations are different, and

1485
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 1: that's just how it will work. So here is what

1486
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 1: the twenty four team playoff the way that it would

1487
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,720
Speaker 1: impact the rest of the regular season. There would be

1488
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:46,599
Speaker 1: no more conference championship games. Okay, fine, I'm not mad

1489
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 1: at that. There would be no auto bids outside of one,

1490
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 1: so it'd be a full meritocracy, which is, if we're

1491
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 1: being honest, sort of a cocky move by the Big

1492
01:34:56,840 --> 01:35:00,799
Speaker 1: ten because they feeling themselves after three Natties over three years.

1493
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:03,600
Speaker 1: But you're still not gonna get the majority of the

1494
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 1: teams because of the bias that is related to the

1495
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 1: SEC schedules, even though they can't be that difficult because

1496
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:16,640
Speaker 1: they're overvalue in teams like Mississippi State, a win at Kentucky,

1497
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 1: all of this way overrated wins. Now, the one thing

1498
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 1: that it does solve is that bowl games are already

1499
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:28,759
Speaker 1: dying off. The Detroit Bowl is already gone, the Bahamas Bowl,

1500
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 1: LA Bowl, those are already gone. But this would actually

1501
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 1: kill half of the existing bowls in year one. So

1502
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 1: everybody that's worried about players opting out. Bowl games are

1503
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 1: even gonna become even less relevant, and you're gonna have

1504
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 1: people opt out of this. You're gonna have people opt

1505
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 1: out of the College Football Playoff. If you've got a

1506
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 1: first round pick that's playing at Georgia Tech and he's like, bro,

1507
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,600
Speaker 1: we have no chance to win a national championship. We

1508
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:01,840
Speaker 1: are the twenty two seed. Now I'm gonna get ready

1509
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 1: for the draft. Same thing at Houston or at Arizona.

1510
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 1: You think them dudes are gonna be playing in this

1511
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 1: game with an additional chance to get hurt when they

1512
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 1: know that they don't have a chance to win. Answer

1513
01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 1: to that is a resounding no. And trying to put

1514
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 1: thirty four percent of power forward teams in that don't

1515
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 1: make sense, not even a little bit. And truthfully, we

1516
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 1: already know how non Big ten and SEC teams usually

1517
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 1: faire in the College Football Playoff because outside of Miami's

1518
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 1: run this year and then Notre Dames last year because

1519
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 1: they're an independent, and then you look at the Clemson

1520
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 1: pre transfer portal run, non Big ten and SEC teams

1521
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 1: are three and twenty one in the College Football Playoff.

1522
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 1: What good is it gonna do to open up the

1523
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 1: college football playoff to a ten and three Houston team.

1524
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:01,840
Speaker 1: Are they really gonna have a chance, No, maybe to

1525
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 1: win one game, But now we're putting too much a

1526
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:13,720
Speaker 1: load on the players, adding additional games when they are

1527
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:18,080
Speaker 1: not even employees. We don't even want to cask, you know,

1528
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 1: classify them as employees. But now we want them to

1529
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 1: play more games because it's professional football for everybody else around.

1530
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 1: Think about that. It's professional football for the athletic directors,

1531
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:34,599
Speaker 1: for the coaches, for the sponsors, for the athletic director,

1532
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 1: for the school, for everybody, for the networks, it is

1533
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 1: pro football. Because now then you keep adding games, those

1534
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 1: are healthcare issues, more lawsuits coming. You have to collectively

1535
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:54,720
Speaker 1: bargain all of these things. But you know, what kind

1536
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 1: of sense does that make to take pages out of

1537
01:37:57,439 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 1: the professional books in the way that they've been doing.

1538
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I mean and think about this. What

1539
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 1: incentive would the G five have to enter their best

1540
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:11,599
Speaker 1: team in to an even more crowded field, Because assuming

1541
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 1: that it's not just Notre Dame every year, wouldn't it

1542
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 1: make more sense for the G five G six teams

1543
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 1: to create their own playoff? At that point, in time,

1544
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:23,680
Speaker 1: they'd be like, listen, We're not just going to continue

1545
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 1: to sign up for this for your little charity, for

1546
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 1: your little one seed handout. No, no, So here is

1547
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 1: my solution for this, because I believe that the College

1548
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 1: Football Playoff to determine the college Football Playoff, that the

1549
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 1: end season schedules need to change because there does need

1550
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 1: to be either. Well, first, there needs to be some

1551
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:56,800
Speaker 1: schedule uniformity. That's the first thing, and not this nebulous

1552
01:38:56,840 --> 01:39:00,760
Speaker 1: We create our own schedule because of what we think

1553
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 1: it's best for us. We got USC thinking what's best

1554
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 1: for them, not trying to play Notre Dame outside of

1555
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 1: Week zero. You have Indiana doing what's best for them

1556
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 1: not playing a Power four opponent in their non conference.

1557
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:19,759
Speaker 1: You had the SEC doing what's best for them. Pretty

1558
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 1: much everybody only playing nine Power four games. Now you

1559
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 1: got Alabama talking about canceling Ohio State. So here is

1560
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 1: the solution. We get down to eight conference games, and

1561
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:41,800
Speaker 1: then we would play three Power four games against the

1562
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 1: other conferences. So if you are Rutgers and you're in

1563
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, you're gonna play one non conference game

1564
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:56,679
Speaker 1: against the SEC, against the against the ACC, and against

1565
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 1: the SEC as well the Big twelve ACC at SEC

1566
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 1: and if you are Alabama, you're gonna play a game

1567
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 1: against the Big Ten, Big twelve and the ACC. So

1568
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 1: now we're gonna get an enormous amount of data points

1569
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 1: to be able to judge strength of schedule and strength

1570
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:21,840
Speaker 1: of record and any other uh, you know, analytic data

1571
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:24,559
Speaker 1: that you want to put together. You're gonna be able

1572
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 1: to do it without just having a small sample size

1573
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 1: to try to do it or trying to rely on

1574
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 1: historical data for something that is right now and then

1575
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 1: for your last game, because that's eight plus three, then

1576
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 1: you can schedule an FCS team, you can schedule a

1577
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:46,639
Speaker 1: G six team, or you can schedule another power forward

1578
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:50,639
Speaker 1: team for some extra bonus points. Those are the options

1579
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:57,639
Speaker 1: because we gotta stop with this idea that oh listen, listen, listen.

1580
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 1: We know the SEC schedules are tough. Know the Big

1581
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 1: Tens is the best conference. The ACC stinks except for

1582
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 1: when they beat the SEC more times than the last

1583
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 1: two years up. Yeah, yeah, but that does count, and

1584
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 1: the Big twelve way overrated. Well, we will have the

1585
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 1: opportunity to actually see for ourselves. That's what we'll be

1586
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:25,759
Speaker 1: able to do. There won't be no guessing, there won't

1587
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 1: be no asking. It will be clearest day who the

1588
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 1: best conference is and who had the toughest strength of schedules.

1589
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 1: Easy work. And then the other option is go to

1590
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 1: a super conference schedule. That's it, where you don't even

1591
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,160
Speaker 1: worry about the G six teams. They create their own

1592
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 1: playoffs and then you let the big boys do it.

1593
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 1: And that, my friends, is exactly why what happened with

1594
01:41:56,840 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 1: SMU going to the ACC where you've had Sack State

1595
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:10,280
Speaker 1: going to the MAC, and is exactly why teams are

1596
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:14,680
Speaker 1: doing this right now, why teams are jumping ship so

1597
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 1: and this is exactly why Sack State going to the

1598
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 1: MAC conference shouldn't matter to you, because the MAC is

1599
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 1: adding an FCS program as a football only member starting

1600
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 1: July first. Now, the reason why this matters is because

1601
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 1: you are going to watch conferences continue to position themselves

1602
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 1: and schools position themselves for the future. Because this right now,

1603
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:47,640
Speaker 1: this time that we are living in, right now, this

1604
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 1: small window from twenty twenty four, so I'm gonna give

1605
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:55,719
Speaker 1: it to about twenty twenty seven. That is your last chance.

1606
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:58,840
Speaker 1: It is your last chance to put yourself in a

1607
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 1: position to level up. And that's exactly what sax State

1608
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:07,599
Speaker 1: is doing. They have apparently raised a bunch of money

1609
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 1: and they are going to spend that money. And and

1610
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 1: they're because they wanted in the big they wanted out

1611
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:18,559
Speaker 1: of the FCS. They wanted to do something exactly like

1612
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:22,720
Speaker 1: you had North Dakota State just leave the FCS the

1613
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 1: Big Sky and go into the Mountain West I'm sorry,

1614
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 1: going to the back twelve and then you got yeah,

1615
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:36,679
Speaker 1: and then you have sax State doing this. You had

1616
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 1: SMU go to the ACC and SMU going to the

1617
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 1: ACC is a direct correlation. How desperately that they wanted

1618
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 1: in is the same way that sax State was. Because

1619
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 1: the cost of entrance for sax State into the MAC

1620
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars to Pete down and the all in

1621
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 1: and the total cost is gonna be about twenty three

1622
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 1: million dollars because Sacramento State would also need to so

1623
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:12,759
Speaker 1: out of that eighteen million dollars, they're gonna pay six

1624
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 1: million up front this year, and then Sacramento State is

1625
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:20,800
Speaker 1: also gonna need to pay five million dollars to the

1626
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 1: NCAA to move up from the FCS to the FBS.

1627
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:30,799
Speaker 1: Think about that, So you got North Dakota State moving

1628
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:33,879
Speaker 1: to the Mountain West cost twelve and a half million dollars.

1629
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:38,040
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois paid two million dollars to join the Mountain

1630
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 1: West because they want in the big boy crew. So

1631
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 1: you got Sack State, who is not gonna be happy

1632
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:52,360
Speaker 1: staying in the MAC. And think about this. The MAC

1633
01:44:54,520 --> 01:45:00,160
Speaker 1: is requiring sax State because all the other schools one

1634
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:03,240
Speaker 1: of the other schools are within fifteen hundred miles probably

1635
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:07,639
Speaker 1: of Sack State. So sax State has to pay all

1636
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 1: of the travel costs for the rest of maction to

1637
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 1: go out to California. Every time a team goes out

1638
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 1: to California, Sacramento State is on the hook for their

1639
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:23,240
Speaker 1: travel costs. That's how badly that they want it in.

1640
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 1: And they are not even taking a share of the

1641
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 1: conference revenue, which is the exact same thing that SMU

1642
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 1: did to join the ACC. It's it and you see

1643
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:37,679
Speaker 1: how well that that's worked out for SMU. They've already

1644
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 1: made the College Football Playoff, they are recruiting better, and

1645
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 1: now their donors believe that they can turn them into

1646
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 1: a champion. They could turn them to a champion. Legally,

1647
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 1: this ain't even got it. Got to be the Pony

1648
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:56,479
Speaker 1: Express where everything's getting paid under the table. They can

1649
01:45:56,520 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 1: do it legitimately the right way. Now, one caveat is

1650
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:06,080
Speaker 1: is that the Hornets will not be eligible for bowls

1651
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 1: for the next two seasons. And remember James Madison ran

1652
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 1: into this and they tried to get an exemption when

1653
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 1: they could have made to College Football Playoff a couple

1654
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 1: of years ago. NCAA's like nahnpout rules of rules. Rules

1655
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 1: of rules. Now, I will say there is one caveat

1656
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 1: to it as well, is that the bold restriction could

1657
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 1: be waived if there are not enough Bowl eligible teams.

1658
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 1: So that's it, and they won't be able to compete

1659
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 1: for the MAC Championship in the first two seasons either.

1660
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:39,559
Speaker 1: Now here's what's interesting as well is what the president

1661
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:43,559
Speaker 1: of Sacramento State, Luke would said, said, this is an

1662
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:46,639
Speaker 1: historic moment for SAX State Bowl leaping to the future,

1663
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:51,639
Speaker 1: that this changing classification. It's a declaration of who we

1664
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 1: are and where we're going. We're elevating our university, our

1665
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 1: student athletes, and the greater Sacramento region. So this is

1666
01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 1: a big deal to them. They are trying to find

1667
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 1: a way to take from where they are to go

1668
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:09,720
Speaker 1: somewhere else, and in life, you can't be mad at that.

1669
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 1: You have to be you know, happy with people trying

1670
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 1: to use their upward mobility and use their resources to

1671
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 1: do something different and do something special for them in

1672
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:31,439
Speaker 1: their life. All Right. It's funny because I always believe

1673
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:34,479
Speaker 1: that you either adapt or die, right, that you either

1674
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 1: adapt in situations or you get left all the way

1675
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:41,679
Speaker 1: behind and you will get run the hell over. Well,

1676
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 1: that's exactly what has happened in the situation with me

1677
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 1: and jersey patches. And when I'm talking about jersey patches,

1678
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 1: when you look at your favorite NBA team, Nike logo

1679
01:47:57,520 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 1: team logo patch, that's just more money for the end

1680
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 1: for the business, more money for that individual team. Okay,

1681
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:12,800
Speaker 1: So I was one hundred percent against it. I was

1682
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:15,879
Speaker 1: against it in the in the the NFL has resisted

1683
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:21,479
Speaker 1: it so far, the NBA has it the you know,

1684
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 1: MLB sold their entire walls for the most part, so

1685
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 1: now there their walls look like minor league fields. They've

1686
01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 1: resisted it on the jersey so far, so is the NFL.

1687
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 1: But now we're getting it in college football. And mind you,

1688
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 1: I was completely against it. But the thing that just

1689
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 1: stands out to me more than anything with these jersey

1690
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 1: patches is I don't understand them. I do not understand

1691
01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:52,360
Speaker 1: these jersey patches and why we have brands that we

1692
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 1: don't even use in the United States on these jersey patches.

1693
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 1: So you have LSU here, who is now sponsored by

1694
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 1: Woodside Energy, You're like, okay, cool. It would be different

1695
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:12,080
Speaker 1: if if you in your local neighborhood had energy choices.

1696
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:14,760
Speaker 1: Now I do know in Texas that you have a

1697
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:18,639
Speaker 1: couple choices, but in California and in most other states,

1698
01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:23,400
Speaker 1: your energy choice is very limited by your area, and

1699
01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:27,120
Speaker 1: it's typically a monopoly in your area where you live.

1700
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,760
Speaker 1: So let's look at Woodside Energy. Because I was like,

1701
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 1: who the hell is Woodside Energy? So I got to

1702
01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 1: google it. It is an Australian energy company with natural

1703
01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 1: gas interests in Louisiana. So how does that factor into

1704
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:45,720
Speaker 1: normal people's life? And it becomes the first company to

1705
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 1: become a Jersey patch sponsor of a major's college major

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01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 1: college football program. So the tweets have have had me,

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01:49:57,200 --> 01:50:03,919
Speaker 1: they've made me laugh, right because being the first massive

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01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:08,599
Speaker 1: publicity for Woodside Energy that this whole LSU thing is.

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01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:13,639
Speaker 1: But if you go to their social media, you would

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01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:17,439
Speaker 1: think that for Woodside Energy that this was no big

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01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:23,360
Speaker 1: deal for them none, because every athletic LSU athletic program

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01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 1: they have tagged Woodside Energy in promo tweets, and whoever

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01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:31,400
Speaker 1: is running Woodside Energy's x account as of noon the

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01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 1: day after the announcement hadn't even posted or reposted a

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01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:42,240
Speaker 1: single solitary thing about LSU. So why does this make sense?

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01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:47,160
Speaker 1: So either somebody at Woodside Energy wants to pump money

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01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:52,840
Speaker 1: into LSU because it makes no good business sense. It's

1718
01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 1: not like you can go out and make a Woodside

1719
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:59,040
Speaker 1: Energy purchase if you are an everyday LSU Tiger supporter.

1720
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 1: So this definitely is either about positive pr and maybe

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01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:10,040
Speaker 1: a little political goodwill in the state over any mutual

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01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:14,680
Speaker 1: benefit for the actual sponsor. So this goes to go

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01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 1: show that whether Woodside Energy, I bet you that they're

1724
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:21,959
Speaker 1: up for some contracts, that they are up for something

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01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:25,479
Speaker 1: that the governor or somebody at the state level has

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01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 1: to approve of, and that's why they're paying for this

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01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:31,639
Speaker 1: Jersey Patch Because aside from that, how does that make

1728
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:35,280
Speaker 1: any sense? And I know this as college football's truthteller.

1729
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:38,320
Speaker 1: I gotta bring it out to the forefront. It would

1730
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 1: be different if you put pepsi on there, right, makes sense,

1731
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 1: sell more pepsis. If you are a you know, if

1732
01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:49,519
Speaker 1: you're Nike, it makes sense your brand is out there,

1733
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 1: sell more Nikes. Hell, even if you are Amazon, you're advertising,

1734
01:51:56,320 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 1: make people sell go to Amazon more. Team. Whatever a

1735
01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 1: product is that you could use, even if it was

1736
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 1: Tony Satchery's what a seasoning. Whatever, it is something that

1737
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:10,960
Speaker 1: you can actually that the company can see a return

1738
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:15,960
Speaker 1: on investment. But that's why they're getting something back for it.

1739
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:20,519
Speaker 1: We just don't know what it is. So I'm wondering

1740
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:25,960
Speaker 1: what the next brand of what school is gonna be

1741
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:30,240
Speaker 1: next with their jersey patches and what it's gonna be.

1742
01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:33,599
Speaker 1: Because if it's PayPal, if it's Venmo, all of those

1743
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:38,400
Speaker 1: makes sense. Bank of America, all of these things, they

1744
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 1: make sense. This makes no sense people, none at all.

1745
01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 1: And you know, facts or facts, all right. The next

1746
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:50,920
Speaker 1: thing we got to talk about this is a sweet story.

1747
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:53,120
Speaker 1: I want you guys to see how big the show

1748
01:52:53,160 --> 01:53:00,639
Speaker 1: Traders is. This is a sweet story. The next thing

1749
01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:03,719
Speaker 1: is with me and my family because we've been watching

1750
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:07,920
Speaker 1: the Winter Olympics on Peacock. We've been watching them on

1751
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 1: TV everything, And I, for one, love watching a couple

1752
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:16,839
Speaker 1: of sports. I love watching Bob's lad I love watching

1753
01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:22,640
Speaker 1: you know, snowboard tricks, love watching curling. Curling is my

1754
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:25,600
Speaker 1: absolute favorite, and I swear to God I believe in

1755
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:29,719
Speaker 1: with every ounce of my bean because I've curled twice.

1756
01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:35,800
Speaker 1: If I dedicated full time to curling, I can make

1757
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:39,800
Speaker 1: the Olympic team. I believe it. Curl that curl that

1758
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:46,920
Speaker 1: stone down there, and bruh, you put a finely tuned

1759
01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 1: athletic machine like me with these great jeans on the

1760
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:55,439
Speaker 1: curling team. Bruther what go go medal? I believe that

1761
01:53:55,520 --> 01:54:01,960
Speaker 1: in my heart. But anyways, I digress. The cool part

1762
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:04,840
Speaker 1: about this Winter Olympics for me has been is not

1763
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 1: just the stories, because those are the best parts. The

1764
01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 1: best part has been watching it with my kids. And

1765
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you guys a video that I put

1766
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:20,080
Speaker 1: on social media this week, and it was amazing to

1767
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:23,880
Speaker 1: me because we watched the show Traders as well, and

1768
01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 1: Traders and the Winter Olympics collided with me and my

1769
01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:32,000
Speaker 1: family and it was the coolest thing because our six

1770
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:35,320
Speaker 1: year old, who loves to watch Traders with me and

1771
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 1: the wife. He loves getting involved, like he loves the

1772
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:42,680
Speaker 1: drama to getting involved. He has favorites and all this.

1773
01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 1: And we were watching the Winter Olympics and this is

1774
01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 1: what happened when it came to that, and I was like, dang,

1775
01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:55,240
Speaker 1: this is dope. I want you guys to see how

1776
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 1: big the show Traders is because me, Romanese kids, we

1777
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:04,560
Speaker 1: watch Traders and we're watching the Winter Olympics and this

1778
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 1: comes on the screen and look what Roman said, Roman,

1779
01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:12,600
Speaker 1: who is that? How does he know who Terror Lipinsky is?

1780
01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:16,640
Speaker 1: And then this came up, who is that? How does

1781
01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 1: he know who Johnny Weir is? Only from Traders? He

1782
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 1: doesn't even recognize the team. These are two of the

1783
01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 1: greatest Olympian figure skaters that we've seen, and well known

1784
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:29,800
Speaker 1: broadcasters as well. I just think it's dope to get

1785
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:32,320
Speaker 1: a chance to enjoy something with the kids and they

1786
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:34,480
Speaker 1: get a chance to have a different relationship with people

1787
01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:37,800
Speaker 1: that we saw in a totally different light. And now,

1788
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:40,280
Speaker 1: yes it's a celebrity to him, but he has no

1789
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 1: idea what they're known for before. He just heard it,

1790
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:47,560
Speaker 1: right now, Hey, Roman, who do you want to win?

1791
01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:50,880
Speaker 1: And then he already has his pick for who he

1792
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:53,440
Speaker 1: wants to win Traders. He wants Rob to win Traders.

1793
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:57,440
Speaker 1: But and no, that's not an ad for Peacock or

1794
01:55:57,600 --> 01:55:59,720
Speaker 1: Traders or anything else. I just thought it was cool,

1795
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:03,200
Speaker 1: and I know that you guys have similar things where

1796
01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 1: it's like aha moments with you and your family. But

1797
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:09,160
Speaker 1: this has been great, like watching it with the wife,

1798
01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 1: watching it with the kids, watching with everybody. And this

1799
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:14,400
Speaker 1: is what the Olympics are supposed to do. They're supposed

1800
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 1: to bring us together, they're supposed to get us. You know,

1801
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:21,120
Speaker 1: this is the time you can have some nationalistic spirit

1802
01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:23,919
Speaker 1: and want your team to win and then also invest

1803
01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 1: in the stories of other people. So definitely appreciate that. Now,

1804
01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:35,480
Speaker 1: before we get out of here, oh Man, tough stuff.

1805
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:42,200
Speaker 1: There's a kid who played at Northern Iowa. His name

1806
01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:49,200
Speaker 1: oh Man, actually Parker Sutherland. And this was hard for

1807
01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:54,280
Speaker 1: me because I've had a bunch of teammates pass away.

1808
01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:59,760
Speaker 1: I've had a teammate get shot. And I'll take you

1809
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:03,920
Speaker 1: back to when I was playing in college. That was

1810
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:09,000
Speaker 1: when guys started falling out and guy started dying. When

1811
01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:14,680
Speaker 1: Corey Stringer died, you had Devar Darling up at Washington,

1812
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 1: oh actually he was at Florida State because his brother

1813
01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:20,360
Speaker 1: was at Washington State. They were twins or or vice versa.

1814
01:57:21,680 --> 01:57:26,160
Speaker 1: And he died. And it is very difficult when you

1815
01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:29,680
Speaker 1: have a player on your team die when something somebody

1816
01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:33,240
Speaker 1: that you play with dies, and Washington State has dealt

1817
01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 1: with it. Utah's dealt with it twice. There's been a lot.

1818
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:39,120
Speaker 1: But there was a kid over at Northern Iowa's name

1819
01:57:39,160 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 1: is Parker Southern Sutherland. He passed away two days after

1820
01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:48,480
Speaker 1: collapsing during an offseason workout, and then school officials announced

1821
01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:51,200
Speaker 1: last weekend that the eighteen year old tight end from

1822
01:57:51,240 --> 01:57:56,200
Speaker 1: Iowa City had died Saturday morning. Now Iowa coach Todd

1823
01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:59,839
Speaker 1: Stepsis he said Monday that the six foot six Sutherland

1824
01:57:59,880 --> 01:58:02,840
Speaker 1: had collapsed on Thursday. He said, we were working out

1825
01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:06,280
Speaker 1: in the morning, We get right through our warm up

1826
01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:09,320
Speaker 1: and in a warm up routine, you know, normal Thursday,

1827
01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:12,200
Speaker 1: and then he collapsed. And so other than the kid

1828
01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:15,240
Speaker 1: appeared in four games as a freshman last fall, earned

1829
01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:18,360
Speaker 1: second team all state honors his senior year at Iowa

1830
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:22,360
Speaker 1: City High School, where he also played basketball and as

1831
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:26,720
Speaker 1: a tight end. Former two sport athlete, myself, my heart

1832
01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:30,080
Speaker 1: breaks for this kid for his dad, his mom, his sister,

1833
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:35,560
Speaker 1: and you know it was It's just a very, very

1834
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:41,360
Speaker 1: tough situation and it just sucks. And this is why

1835
01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:43,560
Speaker 1: I would always tell you. Now, I don't I'm not

1836
01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:48,520
Speaker 1: even going to pretend to know what caused this, but

1837
01:58:48,640 --> 01:58:50,400
Speaker 1: I do know that if you have a kid, you

1838
01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 1: have a teenager, especially if they're black, and yes, there's

1839
01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:57,760
Speaker 1: a reason why, there's a medical reason why you should

1840
01:58:57,760 --> 01:59:00,640
Speaker 1: get heart ultrasounds if you can't any heart test that

1841
01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:04,240
Speaker 1: your insurance will allow. Because you even look at a

1842
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 1: kid like Brownie James, that's one of the richest athletes

1843
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:13,280
Speaker 1: of all time, he almost died at USC These things

1844
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:15,920
Speaker 1: can happen at any point in time. Our hearts are

1845
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:18,040
Speaker 1: the one thing that we can't see on the inside

1846
01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 1: of and insurance doesn't like to cover a lot of

1847
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:25,440
Speaker 1: these things. So sucks. But you guys, though, that is

1848
01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:29,960
Speaker 1: Unafraid show, George Reis's college football podcast. You guys, make

1849
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:35,240
Speaker 1: sure that you guys like, share, subscribe, get notifications, tell

1850
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 1: a friend about the show, and most importantly, share and

1851
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:40,400
Speaker 1: be one of us.