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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We're all about

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Speaker 1: that high school drama. Girl drama, girl, all about them

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Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in

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Speaker 1: our comic girl Cheering for the drama queens want go

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Speaker 1: up girl fashion, but you'll tough. Girls. You can sit

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Speaker 1: with us. Girl Drama Queens, Drama, Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama, Drama,

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Speaker 1: Queen's Drama Queens. Hey, welcome back episode seven. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us. This is Drama Queens. We are talking about

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Speaker 1: episode seven of One Tree Hill, Life in a Glass House.

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Speaker 1: Air date November four, two thousand and three. The synopsis

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Speaker 1: of this episode is, this is the night that Dan

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Speaker 1: and Deb's annual basketball appreciation party, which what spurs old

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Speaker 1: memories and new feeling feelings. Can we start by saying,

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Speaker 1: though that Joy wanted to retitle this episode lamps. I

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Speaker 1: was fan out there to watch this episode and count

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Speaker 1: how many freaking lamps. I don't understand. Why is it?

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Speaker 1: Is it always in every episode and I'm just seeing

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Speaker 1: it now. I don't know. This felt real lamp heavy.

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Speaker 1: Karen's Cafe was like lamp like, I don't need what's

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Speaker 1: the word like? Lamp perfect? Don't go there to hang out,

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Speaker 1: except it's supposed to be a business. Lamps everywhere, every

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Speaker 1: ambient lighting in this episode, which is good because we

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Speaker 1: had some big feelings. You don't want to have big

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Speaker 1: the episode, brook right, because this was Brooks episode fully,

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Speaker 1: and validation somewhere. You're trying to figure out where you

427
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: can have a safe friendship. And I'm like, if I

428
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: could just get a boy to love me, then maybe

429
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: I would be okay. If I can just get a

430
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: boy to love me. The other comfort thing in this,

431
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: you know, for people who are adrift, like the girls are. Karen,

432
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: who has seemingly been a drift in her own hometown

433
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: for the last sixteen seventeen years. Running into Whitey at

434
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: the party and him reminding her of the girl she

435
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: was and like being looking proud of you was such.

436
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: It was a really lovely moment. I loved that they

437
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 1: had the sense to put in his dialogue a reference

438
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: to how happy it's been making him to see her

439
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: at the gym again, you know, watching Yuka's play because

440
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: it it makes you realize that even though as an

441
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: audience we haven't seen them have a moment at a

442
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: basketball game, it gives you the emotional payoff of learning

443
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: that Whitey has been tracking Karen being there and it's

444
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: so it's just lovely. And the compliment that he gives

445
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: her about raising a good young man. Yeah, I mean

446
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: that's as a mom, like when you're somebody comes up

447
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: and tells you, like, hey, you did a really good

448
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: job your kids amazing. It's like, there's no there's no

449
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: greater compliment you could possibly give me. Do you guys

450
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: stay in touch with your teachers? Do you talk to

451
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 1: your teachers? No? Do you? Oh? My god, my favorite teachers.

452
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: That's awesome. It's I just did assume. Okay, let me

453
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: tell you a little trick. All the teachers are parts

454
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: of book clubs, right or they have like they don't

455
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: call them drinking clubs, but they're drinking. I know what

456
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: you guys are up to. And it's like they all

457
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: have their once a month meeting where they meet at

458
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: a winery and they like discuss a topic. And so

459
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: because everyone's been doing it over Zoom, I did a

460
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: meeting with like my teachers from fourth grade through graduation,

461
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: and just like wept the whole time because these people,

462
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: they don't they don't. Maybe they do understand that they're

463
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: like your parents for a little while, you know, like

464
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: they shape you in a way that's forever um and

465
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 1: you know you want to just like then pick their

466
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: brain about everything. Ever. And so I love that Whitey

467
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: is that person in our show. I wish we had

468
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,239
Speaker 1: more teachers like that in our show because like my

469
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: English teacher, my US History teachers, my government teacher, like

470
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: all those teachers were so vital, and we've got Whitey,

471
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: but like we could have done more. We could have

472
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: had a chick teacher. That would have been cool. It

473
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: would have been nice. Hayley became that later, yeah for sure,

474
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: but it would have been nice to see that influence.

475
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: It would have been nice to see that influence in

476
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: her life. Yeah, especially to know who made her so

477
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: passionate about tutoring and everything would have been yeah, yeah,

478
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: what's the backstory? Did you make one up? Did you?

479
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: I might have? I don't know. I just figured like

480
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: she's really smart and she likes helping people, and especially

481
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: as a sibling in a in a big family. You

482
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: get used to learning how to help and lend, lend

483
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: a hand and all the time. So it probably was

484
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: super second nature to her, and she could make some money.

485
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: Kids from big families. It's like, sorry, kids, I don't

486
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: have my I can't give you guys all an allowance,

487
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 1: like go get a job. So tracks I like that

488
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: she's an entrepreneur, Like, yeah, can we talk about deb

489
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: and Karen more of this? I love this relationship. This

490
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: dynamic is so great. I wonder if they planned that

491
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: all along or if they just saw like how Moira

492
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: and Barbara were playing it, and they were like, Okay,

493
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: we'll do this. You know so much that season one

494
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: was fly by the seat of our pants because all

495
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: the stuff that they had planned kind of got thrown

496
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: out the window because now we were in competition with

497
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: all these other team dramas like the O C. And

498
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: it was like, what was some of the stuff they

499
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,239
Speaker 1: had planned? Do you know the things? Baby? All I

500
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: know is that everything was supposed to be narrated by

501
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: why are you talking to Camilla? It was supposed to

502
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: be eight mile is what I was told, and so

503
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: kind of these more like juicy dramatic narratives were you know,

504
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: I think the element of having like two sexy moms

505
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: became a thing because Desperate Housewives was a very big

506
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: show and moms on the c were super sexy, and

507
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: so they're like, well, let's bring in these like hot

508
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: moms that then become friends and then later can be

509
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: friend of mees, you know, that building that arc. But

510
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: watching these two women work together, it's like, why would

511
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: we ever split this up? These two are well, they

512
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: have such great chemistry, you know, and and to see

513
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: that and to see the the gentle nature that they

514
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: both apply to what could be a very fraud interaction,

515
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: it's just so good. I want more of it all

516
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: the time. And to watch Dan Scott, it makes them

517
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: and he can't it's so genuine what he's seeing that

518
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: he's frozen and he can't like interject with some shitty quip.

519
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: You know, why do you think he didn't rush over

520
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: there to break it a stop it? Why why did

521
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: he walk away? He actually made the choice to we

522
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: have to ask Paul this when we have on this show,

523
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: because it's such a that's kind of a really big

524
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: moment to just leave them alone instead of trying interject

525
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: got out gamed, deb out gamed him. I'm telling you, man,

526
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: she wears the pants and yeah, for sure it's it's

527
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: this is her punishment for his behavior at that party

528
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: last week. You know, it's like, you know what, you

529
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: embarrassed me, you misbehaved. I am going to make an

530
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: example out of you this party and now all your

531
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: friends are going to watch me not only invite them,

532
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: but give them preferential treatment while they're here. You know.

533
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: It's it's also leading by example. I mean, it's a

534
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: power player, but like you were saying when we were watching,

535
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: there's an element of leading by example that she does

536
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: that is really nice to see. Instead of typical television

537
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 1: everybody loves Raymond housewives where they're just barking orders and

538
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: always telling him what's wrong and what's doing. Why can't

539
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: you just be nice? You know? You know, so what

540
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: is it like Archie Bunker and the Honeymooners and stuff.

541
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: It's nice to see a wife that is she's just

542
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: being herself, she's got boundaries and she's leading by example.

543
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: It's a really beautiful to me. Um alright, and Beth

544
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: Crook on, Beth Crook, we all have this on our list.

545
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: You guys, we keep running lists while we're watching the episode,

546
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: and I love that we've all arrived at the Beth

547
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 1: Crookham point of our list. So, Joy, do you want

548
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: to tell everybody at home who Beth is in real life?

549
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: With Beth in real life? Well, she was one of

550
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: our producers on the show. Um though uncredited as a

551
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: producer for many, many years. Ever did she ever finally

552
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: get a producer credit? Said she was like an assistant

553
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: for you know, like a producer's assistant. She her ass off.

554
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean she worked harder, arguably harder than several of

555
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: our producers. But Beth was I mean, she's like the

556
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: mayor of Wilming did Like, she knows everybody. She's involved

557
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: in everything. She can get you reservations, she knows everybody

558
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: that runs every restaurant. She knows that all the locations, words, councils,

559
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: whatever you want. Actress Extraordinary shows up to tell deb

560
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: that the pies went to. We were so excited. It

561
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: really was like shooting in a small town because had

562
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: we been in l A, have you been in New York,

563
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: you know, we wouldn't have known the day players on

564
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: the show who would come round for like five six lines.

565
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: But watching it back, we're like, oh my god, they're

566
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: so and so Hey, they're so so it's such a

567
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: nice reunion everyone. We have news. Hi, we're doing a

568
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: virtual event in September in honor of Entry. Everyone in

569
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: the O t H Fam knows it's our favorite day,

570
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: and this event is also going to benefit one of

571
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: our favorite groups. US Ladies are raising money for Kind

572
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: Campaign because they do incredible work in schools to end

573
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: bullying and honestly, our Tree Hill High School needed that, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am.

574
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: So there is a lot of information forthcoming, but check

575
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: out looped live dot com. They have everything right there

576
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: and more info will be added soon. So we can't

577
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: wait to see you guys. You want th H day.

578
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: Beth is um a force and she would have to

579
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: do all the stuff that no one else wanted to

580
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: do with us, including a d R yes, which is

581
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: additional dialogue record and basically set therapist, like you know,

582
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: the woman that we would all talk to about all

583
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: the craziness that was going on, and she was like

584
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: just dealing with everything. And she's an artist and she

585
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: collects art and she's like an interior designer and she

586
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: runs this charity that in Rwanda all the time. I mean,

587
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: what an amazing woman. We should um find a link

588
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: actually to some of the charity work that she does

589
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: so people can go check it out and support her.

590
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: But that was just so fun to see our friend.

591
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah that episode and then then you know, we get

592
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: to see again Karen uh kind of saving the day

593
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: for Deb or or did deb it was vice versa man,

594
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: it was partnership after you know, after the party is

595
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: like the mean moms were leaving, They're like, where were

596
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: these desserts? From? Who? I love? She had the same

597
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: haircut as Deb. Like. I love how they styled all

598
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: the cheerleaders to dress like Brooke and then they groomed

599
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: all the moms to look like that. Really smart. Also,

600
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: Deb's one liner speaking of her planning the perfect party

601
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: in working with Karen, when she catches Dan flirting with

602
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: that bartender and says, she's young enough to be your

603
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: daughter and in this town she might just be so good,

604
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: so good. That bartender was played by Melissa Egan. By

605
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: the way, who if you're a fan of Hallmark or

606
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: um we can find out some of the other stuff

607
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: that she's done she's a she's a she's a good

608
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: working actress, Missy Egan Melissa Egan. Now, um yeah, we

609
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: had a lot of a lot of people come on

610
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: our show that continued. That's really successful careers. Who's your

611
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: Who is the one that always makes you got your

612
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: head because I know who mine is. I'm like, how

613
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: did that person come on our show? Who? Evan Peters

614
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: on our show? Even at the time, he was like,

615
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing on this show. I'm

616
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 1: gonna go do like much cooler than this, you guys.

617
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: But it is fun seeing people kind of um like

618
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: learn the business and come up through the ranks, like

619
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: on a show from twenty years ago, because I did

620
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: that on Dawson's Creek, you know, like my that was

621
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: my first like what am I doing? It's fun to

622
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: see those little guest spots because you forget that everybody

623
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: has that one first job yours, Felicity was was one

624
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: of those. For me. I mean my first job ever

625
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: was like a dog commercial or something when I was twelve.

626
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, in terms of shows that Charmed was another

627
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: big one. Another kind of guest spot. I feel like

628
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: a dressed as a princess and oh yeah, it was

629
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: a busty princess. I was like, it was me and

630
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: Rose McGowan having some sorcery, you know, battle. That's my belly.

631
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: Loved her by the way. She was so fun. She

632
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: had a wand I think I did not have a

633
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: wand I did not I had. They really made a

634
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: big deal out of my boobs in that episode, though,

635
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: Well that's exciting. Yeah, so they are they are. So

636
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: what was yours? Oh? Man? Um, my very first job,

637
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: I did a Kikat commercial That's how I got my

638
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: sag card. That was delicious. And then then I worked.

639
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: I did a scene in Van Wilder with Ryan Reynolds,

640
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: who literally when they were like get on your mark,

641
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: I just looked around and he was like, it's the

642
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: thing with the tape, this is how you stand about it.

643
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, you're nice. Um. And then TV,

644
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: right before we did our show, I did a couple

645
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: of episodes of Niptuck. Oh that's you know. They had

646
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: you pegged. Is this kind of like VAMPI character? And

647
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: I feel like when that came out it kind of

648
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: lit the fire on our show, like, oh she can

649
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: do that, Like that's what she does and I was like,

650
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, no, no, I have very much more

651
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: comfortable and tomboy rolls. Please leave me alone All girls school. Yeah,

652
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: So like Brooke was really a push for me. Sophia,

653
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: you got a role that I wanted, UM, A pilot

654
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 1: a few years prior to that. It was a UM

655
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: it was like a pop star. You were some super

656
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: pop star. It was a movie, that's right. And I

657
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: remember going in for the audition and uh, Britney Spears's

658
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: name was on the call sheet like it was a

659
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 1: It was a big It was a big, big movie,

660
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: really big movie. And I found out later, I think

661
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: when we were auditioning for our show, and maybe maybe

662
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: because I met you in the lobby or something, I

663
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: probably looked you up. And I don't even know how

664
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: it came up something somebody, somehow I realized that you

665
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: had gotten that part. It was like, no way, but

666
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: what happened to that? By the way, it was a

667
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: huge deal. It was actually pretty crazy the studio. UM,

668
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: I wanted to stand up. God, you guys. This was

669
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: in the era prime time Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, mandyre

670
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: and they wanted to do a movie about a young

671
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: pop star, and the idea was so weirdly foreshadowing that

672
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: this girl kind of has like a nervous breakdown on

673
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 1: tour and decides to in disguise all all the movies

674
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: where cooking glasses, go home and go to school, like

675
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: in her hometown, but just disguised as not herself. And

676
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 1: it was a really rigorous process. The auditions were crazy,

677
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: and it was at MGM, and they wanted to do

678
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: a movie with two options, meaning two sequels contracted, and

679
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: they wanted a six album record deal, and they were

680
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: going to try to stand up an in house record

681
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: label with this movie. So imagine in two thousand one

682
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: or two, I don't know, I feel it was going

683
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: to be the next Brittany. It was like, you don't

684
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: even understand it. I was like working with high hat.

685
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: I was working with the best choreographers in the music business,

686
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: like recording music and dancing my face off, and but

687
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: it was gonna be to stand up the label and

688
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: do the movie and then launch a tour and like

689
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: do a full thing. It was a sixty five million

690
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: dollar project. It was a star making machine. It was

691
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: a huge, huge deal, and and they they like something

692
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: something changed hands. I remember at the studio and then

693
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: there was a whole conversation where like they couldn't get

694
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: that much money. I mean, she's just so much money. Yeah,

695
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: and they it all sort of felt superheroes, but it

696
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: all basically came apart in the technicalities of them trying

697
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: to launch a record label and movie and it's a

698
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: lot of spinning play. It's like, I get a lot

699
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: of spinning plates. But god, I got such a good

700
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: time like working on it for that. But hold on

701
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: a second, Like, when are you going to put out

702
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: an album? Because those skills don't disappear? Guys, are we

703
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: going to start a girl group? Let's just do it.

704
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: Let's just do everything, Like what else are we doing?

705
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: You know, let's just start a girl group. Yeah, we

706
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 1: don't have enough things to do. We should absolutely write

707
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: a record. We're so bored. We have so much time.

708
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: Good can you imagine, guys, we gotta we gotta get

709
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: in a van, put a camera in there and hit

710
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: the road. Yeah, well that's our next gig. Don't we

711
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: kids coming to an arena near you? It's going to

712
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: be fan draft talking about musicians? Can we talk about

713
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: our sweet sweet bran Greenberg singing Elliott Smith and the

714
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: reveal of baby Jenny. Yeah, he's so good in this

715
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: episode because he's so natural. Yeah he was. He was

716
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: a fully formed adult, you know, like I felt like

717
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: I was still like, you know, molding myself, and Greenberg

718
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: just showed up and he's like, I went to n

719
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: y U. I'm good at this watch. It was like, oh, yeah,

720
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: you want me to be quiet and be having an

721
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: internal dialogue with myself and then you need me to sing, Yeah,

722
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: I can do that. He was like the Lucas. Yes,

723
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: oh my god, yes he was real Lucas Greenberg totally

724
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 1: is real life Lucas. Yeah. God, his reveal is great

725
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: the way he doesn't treat Brooke badly, but he also

726
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: knows how to move past like he's a nice boy,

727
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: which is why it was so like, wait, what that

728
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 1: he had a kid, Because on television at that point

729
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: like fast kids, bad kids, We're the ones that had

730
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: children in high school. And so to see like the lovable,

731
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: you know, philosophical jock as the person with the baby

732
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: was like, what, that's crazy talk. I've never seen anything

733
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: like that. I hadn't either. I thought it was such

734
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: a great opportunity to just as that storyline goes on

735
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: to just see you know, consequences of different you know,

736
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: consequences of your actions when you're in high school. And

737
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: but it wasn't like shamed or harped on where he

738
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: was like embarrassed or it was just like about here's

739
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: the situation where and how do we treat each other right?

740
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: And that is something I could so get behind. It's

741
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: just such a beautiful message. And I loved that he

742
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: carried that storyline so beautifully and there was something so special.

743
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: And you guys pointed this out when we were watching it,

744
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: in the moment where you know, he's singing and it's

745
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: revealed that it's him, and then you realize he has

746
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: this baby and he's putting his little girl to bed,

747
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: and then Nay and walks in and finds Brooke like

748
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: passed out, and you guys like almost made me cry

749
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: just observing like they're just two little girls who need

750
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: a parent to put them to bed. But Brooke doesn't

751
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: have parents, there was no one to put her to bed.

752
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: It just that crushed me. Crush. Yeah, that was really

753
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: hard to watch, and it was you know, we had

754
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: sharp editors on the show. That is, I believe in

755
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 1: the power of the edit and and I do because

756
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: we didn't shoot those things at the same time. I

757
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: don't know that they were in that sequential order in

758
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: the script, but to put them back to back that

759
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: way with those camera moves, it was done intentionally without

760
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: making the audience feel like they're being beat over the

761
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: head with it. Yeah, you were just somebody's little girl.

762
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: We have to talk about the kiss. Oh God, to

763
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: talk about kiss. Was that it was a little I

764
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: felt robbed. I have to say. I mean, all this

765
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: build up, but it felt like it was too soon.

766
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: But maybe that's because we're binging and not watching it

767
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: week to week to week. I mean, binging isn't like

768
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: every few days we're doing this, so so maybe for

769
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: the audience it didn't feel that soon, but it felt

770
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: very sudden to me. Um. Also, maybe just because I'm

771
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: an adult and I'm like just like moving way too fast. Um. Sorry, No,

772
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: I just want to say, like I felt a little

773
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: robbed that with all the build up, the kiss was

774
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: like so it was forced, it was hard, it was

775
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: made it happen. Yeah, it was. I didn't get that

776
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: soft romantic moment because it's not a soft romantic moment,

777
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: you know. That is um That's something that I have

778
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 1: struggled with watching a lot of teenage movies, teenage TV

779
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: and stuff like at is that you see teenagers going

780
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: into romantic moments like adults would like I'm going to

781
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: move in real slow and I'm gonna kiss you real

782
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: gentle and hold your face. And that's bulls, you guys,

783
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: it's just total bullshit, Like you're gonna like knock teeth,

784
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: You're gonna like, you know, Peyton is kissed, You're right,

785
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: because she's mad that her friend is being a real

786
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: asshole in front of everyone and forcing her hand and

787
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: her ex boyfriend has been a nightmare and it's just like,

788
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: you know what, fine, everybody here, like that's what she's saying.

789
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: And it's not until later where Lucas comes and finds

790
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: her that I think she feels guilty about like the

791
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: show of it all, you know, which is why the

792
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: invitation to like sit on the swing and then go

793
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: kissing Nathan's parents room. You know, it's a little bit

794
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: of an olive branch, but it's still you it's still

795
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: a vindictive move because she's purposely taking Lucas into Dan

796
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 1: Scott's bedroom two turner nose up at the power structure

797
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: in this little town. And so I was for that,

798
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: Like that made perfect sense. That felt like something that

799
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: a sixteen year old girl would do, you know, like

800
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: the hell with the patriarchy, you know, I'll do what

801
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: I want. Um, But with this guy that she really liked.

802
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, but I she had a hard time accessing

803
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: that vulnerability. I thought it was enough that they could

804
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: just like stand there and like kiss right or stand

805
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: there and like open mouth kiss if you're gonna like

806
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I was in high school. The first

807
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: time you kissed a boy like that? Was it like

808
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: you you'd make out for like twenty minutes. Cool, Okay,

809
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: I'll see you on Monday. It's cool. The way it

810
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: was written was very graphic, um, which made me nervous

811
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 1: because it was like you couldn't question it because it's like, well,

812
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: this is what's written out. So we have to get

813
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: the shot of you on buttoning his shirt, and we

814
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: have to get the shot of you kissing down his chest.

815
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: And so Chad was cool to like leave a like

816
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 1: a like a white tank top on underneath his button

817
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: up shirt. So I wasn't just like kissing his bare body,

818
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: because that's weird. We'd all known each other for like

819
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: a couple of months, maybe a couple week, and it's

820
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: high school. It's not hard about the example we were

821
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: setting for other young girls. I was so whacked out

822
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: about it, you guys, like so whacked out about it

823
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: because they wanted me like kissing all the way down

824
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: his body down to like his belt and undoing his

825
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: Like I don't know that you see it, but I

826
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: had to undo his belt, and so Robbie McNeil, our director,

827
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: knew that. I was very concerned, and I was like,

828
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: I'll give you like two takes, three takes, Max, but

829
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this all night, Like this is inappropriate

830
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 1: if you can't catch it. Like and I like, looking back,

831
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: if I heard a little twenty one year old on

832
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: set being like you get two takes, I'd be like,

833
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: this little monster is bossy. But I just really didn't

834
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: want to do it, and I was so nervous, and

835
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: so I went back to the hair and makeup trailer.

836
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: My manager, Meg was in town for this who I'm

837
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: still with, and she I mean, I was like crying

838
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: in my trailer. I'm like, I don't want to do this.

839
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm just so it feels dirty. It feels like they're

840
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: trying to sex everything up because Brooks being so weird

841
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: in this episode, Like everything just feels so heightened, and

842
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: they really like turned it up to a tent out

843
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: of nowhere. It just you know, they got to know

844
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,479
Speaker 1: from the network, Yeah, that's it. So I went into

845
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: the hair and makeup trailer and they're like cleaning me

846
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: up because I've gotten upset, you know, and Joe Joe

847
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: our hairdressers like yo, girl, hold on one second, and

848
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: I was like okay, And we had a bottle of

849
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: grapefruit vodka on ice and we all and so all

850
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: the women in the trailer got together and they're like

851
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: you may feel like you're in on this like all

852
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: by yourself, but we are here. We're standing right behind

853
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: the monitor like cheers to you being a bad as kiddo,

854
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: and like we all did this shot together. Meg was like,

855
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: I've never done that on a set before, you know.

856
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: And it was such a moment of sisterhood that really

857
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: solidified my friendships behind the camera because I knew we

858
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: were going to have to continue to do stuff that

859
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: felt weird. I feel like a prostitute right, Like it

860
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: was the first moment that I was really like, I'm

861
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: kissing someone for money. I'm getting paid to do this

862
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: like performative like I don't want to do. Yeah, it

863
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: was just it. There's a morality thing where you're like,

864
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: oh my god, am I a sex worker in two

865
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: thousand three? Um? And and so knowing that there was

866
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: this kind of army of women that were like, you

867
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: can come here, like we'll take care of you. Um,

868
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: made it a much safer space. Meanwhile, Chad's like, were

869
00:50:50,800 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: you drinking like a professional? I I think about how

870
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: some of those like rituals and support systems are so

871
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: meaningful in those arenas, And I mean I even remember,

872
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: I just remember feeling so grateful, like in between takes

873
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: doing that party stuff that we were like like in

874
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: the corner because it felt it feels horrible to have

875
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: to behave in a way you don't want to behave,

876
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: and whether that's like having to be physically intimate with

877
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: someone because your characters are intimate or like I struggled

878
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: so much with this idea of Brooke, regardless of what

879
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: the motivations were, and thank god we found out about

880
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: them eventually, but her being a mean girl, like it

881
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 1: was so awful, and and being able to have space

882
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: all of us together to like really separate out that

883
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: energy from like you're saying, what we were doing behind

884
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: the scenes, I mean our hair and makeup trailer was

885
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: that was like Shangri law man. We were We had

886
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: a lot of fun in there and there. Yeah, like,

887
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: We're so lucky that we got to have that. It's

888
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: about finding your safe space. Yeah, And it makes me

889
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: now want to create that for the on the next

890
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: show that I'm on. I want to create that for

891
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: the younger women that come in. That is such a

892
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: Southern thing too, by the way, like the Southern hospitality

893
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: and women just surrounding each other with support. I wish

894
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: that I had been in a different space in my

895
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: life at the time where I could have accepted a

896
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: lot more of that and been open, because I feel

897
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: like I was. I received the least of that because

898
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: I I pushed it all away because I didn't trust

899
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people just because of my own issues

900
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: and the stuff I had going on in my life.

901
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: But you know, so I love hearing that that was

902
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: happening for you guys, and it makes me excited to

903
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 1: like find a way to create that in the next

904
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: space that I get to go into. You know. Well,

905
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: that's why I'm so grateful that we have this. Yeah,

906
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: like oh yeah, now like we've made it all the

907
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: broads have reached out and been like, yo, girl, would

908
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: you want somebody to come on and talk about some

909
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: real dirt will come on? Which I think having our

910
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: crew gals on, it's like y'all are excited for the

911
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: actors to come on. Jojo and Jane Beck getting on

912
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: this show space danger. Yeah, well, guys, should we should

913
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: we spin the wheel? Should think most likely to need

914
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:46,479
Speaker 1: a theme song for this? We need a jingle? Oh boy? Alright?

915
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: Most likely to get back with their back at their

916
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: ex not it friends. I mean I think prior to

917
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: this episode we would have said it would be Peyton,

918
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: right because her and Nathan so off and on through

919
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: high school. Yes, agreed, but no, I think Nathan Nathan

920
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 1: was most likely to get back with his eggs. Yeah,

921
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: because he was sort of like wherever this is Feasily

922
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: Norris's point, invert, invert the way we talk about it. Yeah,

923
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: these girls are just so amazing but everyone wants to

924
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 1: be with them forever. Listen, we can't help this. Okay,

925
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: so Nathan, but who like in real life it's part

926
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: of our cast. Let's see who was real just sentimental?

927
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: It's you know, everyone's like married now with kids, so

928
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: we can't say it like, um yeah, I don't know.

929
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 1: Most likely to get back together with their Did anyone

930
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: get back together with an X on the show? I'm

931
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: trying to think it's like everybody kissed everybody it was

932
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: finably have a habit of breaking up and getting back

933
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: together with the same people for I've only done that.

934
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: It's because you're sympathetic. Joy, It's because you like believe.

935
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, once you're dead to me, you're dead to

936
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: me forever. I'm never gonna look at you again, you monster.

937
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: Um yeah, alright, Look, don't know. I'm good with Nathan.

938
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: I think Nathan is a good I think that's a

939
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: solid choice. Okay, done and done questions or anything, you guys.

940
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: I love the fan questions. We're getting the nicest messages

941
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: on like in like our d M s and stuff.

942
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 1: Mandy wants to know, how did you each feel about

943
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: the lack of parental guidance each of your characters had,

944
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 1: which we kind of touched on. I never really paid

945
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: much attention to it as a teenager, but now it

946
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: really breaks my heart that none of your characters had

947
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: parents in the first few seasons and mostly went to

948
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: Karen when you needed a parent, Yeah, it's true, or

949
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: Karen having to do with all our crap, or Hayley.

950
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: They went to Hayley all the time. Yeah, I was

951
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: always trying to clean up. I feel like you should

952
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: have just been able to be a kid, damn it.

953
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: You know, I think that, um, so much of my

954
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: real life identity was formed by having all these boundaries,

955
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 1: Like I was the kid that had the earliest curfew,

956
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: and I wasn't allowed to go out of a ten

957
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 1: mile radius from my parents house, and you know, on

958
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: on New Year's even why two K I was supposed

959
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: to be in the basement with the family, like bunking down,

960
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: And my big rebellion was that I went to my

961
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: best friend's party. You know, those boundaries defined me, and

962
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: so it was very difficult for me to portray not

963
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: one not to but like multiple kids that didn't have

964
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: that at all. It just feel weird. Yeah, I think

965
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: that worked for the for the for the show though,

966
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: I mean the show about kids and what we're going through,

967
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: and I think we had somebody that represent it um

968
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: in some ways, like a piece of something that everybody

969
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,479
Speaker 1: could relate to in their part of life, having a parent,

970
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: not having a parent coming from a big family, having

971
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: a parent that was gone, having a parent that was absent,

972
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: having a parent that was very present, having parents that

973
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: were present but emotionally absent. The boys had parents, do

974
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 1: you feel at all like they knew how to right

975
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: for boys and parental figures, but they just didn't understand

976
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: how girls work in that capacity could be. I think

977
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: they probably didn't understand, and to be frank, I don't

978
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: think they cared. I think they planned on, you know,

979
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: a show about brothers where the girls were kind of accessories,

980
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: and the fans really loved the girls the show, identifying

981
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: with us thank you, and I think very quickly because

982
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: I remember a story about one of our boss is

983
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: going in and to really like wiping off stuff on

984
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: the board and putting girls names up on the board,

985
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: like more of this, and I think we kind of

986
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: took them by surprise. And I think and like, I

987
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: think that it was fat enough identity for them. Um.

988
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: And I think that then there's the practicality. You know,

989
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: we all now have directed and produced and we know

990
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: what the behind the scenes stuff is. I think there

991
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: was the practicality of oh, we've got like ten people

992
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: in a cast, we can't hire another eight parents. So

993
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: you know, I think they were like, we'll get there eventually,

994
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: but more actors are expensive. Well, we bring in parents later,

995
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: and you know, we find out more about that. It's

996
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: a slow burn. I want to do this next question

997
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: because I think something that like there's a bell going

998
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: off for me. We have a question from Audrey that

999
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: says you thought Peyton was the villain, right, which I did.

1000
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: I was told like, oh, she's super unliked. Um, But

1001
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: especially in episode seven, Brooke comes out as the villain.

1002
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: The way she treats Peyton and even Haley, who she

1003
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: didn't really know yet, is the complete opposite of what

1004
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: was introduced before. It feels like she's just being mean

1005
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: to be mean. And then she goes on to ask

1006
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: when you were filling these episodes, did you feel like

1007
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: this was something that made sense for her to do? Well, no,

1008
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: but like bells are going off, now in knowing that

1009
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: they were concerned about the audience not liking Peyton, did

1010
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: Brooke get thrown under the bus in order to like

1011
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: get the fans to like move. I think it made

1012
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: the most sense for Brooke to be the stir of

1013
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: the episode. I think like there was no other option.

1014
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: I think it's probably a little bit of both. I

1015
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: mean there's a business element to every decision they made

1016
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: about us. Yes, yeah, and it is a one eight

1017
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, we just established in the last episode, like

1018
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: throwing pom poms at each other, like oh my god,

1019
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: I love you so much, and it's like, yeah, I

1020
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: think it went more extreme than it might have perhaps

1021
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: um to help shift some of that. And I think

1022
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: I do think that Brook made sense to be the

1023
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: ship ster and and wear that red dress. They took

1024
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: it so far wolf literal devil in the red dress

1025
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: and the matching red earrings and red lists so much

1026
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: red just redde My hair weirdly got really red in

1027
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: this episode, Like walking through the quad, I was like, whoa,

1028
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: what is what's happening there? So yeah, I would imagine

1029
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of both. UM. But I think

1030
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: that interestingly, whether it was device or not taking her

1031
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: so far, kind of seeing how far she might go

1032
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: in the acting out gave us a an eventual space

1033
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: to talk about, like what happens to kids when they

1034
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: have absentee parents? You know, how do you try to

1035
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: establish an identity when you don't even have a fully

1036
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: developed prefrontal cortex? Like you don't know anything. That's our

1037
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: little scientist right there. She's going to figure out how

1038
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: the brain developed in Brooke Davis. God bless you, Sophia.

1039
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: We've got a great episode next week. I can't wait,

1040
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: you guys. This episode eight is the search for something more?

1041
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: Do you remember what happens in this one? No? What happens?

1042
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't don't know. All right, So

1043
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: you guys at home watch the episode along with us,

1044
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: um and then we'll all be back to chat about

1045
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: it next week. Let's do it and wait. Bye everybody. Hey,

1046
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review.

1047
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,120
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1048
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,640
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1049
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:12,120
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1050
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,360
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1051
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,560
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1052
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,760
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1053
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1054
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,920
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