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Speaker 1: Josh Josh.

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Speaker 2: All I'm saying is that the question posed was I'm.

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Speaker 3: Not I would not be I would not have picked

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Speaker 3: Asia just because of that.

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Speaker 1: Who was scored for eighty points? First? Asia or Josh

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Speaker 1: Hart shan't begetting my bag?

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Speaker 4: And all of this came out by Love going to

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Speaker 4: Crazy in the Stadium.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Roommate Show, presented by Bett and Jim. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: we got Maddie here, we got JB and myself. We

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Speaker 3: got Andre Grdala joining the show just a little bit later.

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Speaker 5: But right now, all right, let's get into some fan

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Speaker 5: connection sponsored by AT and T.

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Speaker 1: We got a couple of voice notes.

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Speaker 6: Hey, roommates, pod, I'm curious if you had to pick

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Speaker 6: only two people to be on your speed dial lists,

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Speaker 6: who would it be? Talk to you bye?

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Speaker 1: Besides our wives? Besides the wise, Yeah, my wife. Besides

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Speaker 1: I was like, just take off family, uh too? People?

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Speaker 3: Probably it's weird because if I take off, if I

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Speaker 3: take off family, I take out your clubfield. I consider

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Speaker 3: your family.

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Speaker 1: There's no family, all right? Cool?

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Speaker 3: All right, so I do I'll probably say you and Bass, damn,

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Speaker 3: I'm doing family.

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Speaker 1: I'm not not family. You were about to put him.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't putting on there because because he's family, right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd say if not for Josh, my boy Matt

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Speaker 7: and Connor, my boys, Matt and Connor, not me, by

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Speaker 7: the way, for anyone that's not Differently, at this point,

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Speaker 7: I might.

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Speaker 5: Put Toasha get in on there. Yeah, because we've been

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Speaker 5: We're going on like five times a day.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, phone calls talking about Josh. Honestly got fired.

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Speaker 3: She's about to be off podcast duty since she wants

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Speaker 3: to start taking taking stuff.

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Speaker 1: Out the pod. What does she take out the pod?

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Speaker 1: One of her other clients almost died on National TV.

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Speaker 2: Oh and you talked about it and she said, no,

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Speaker 2: you can't do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Who it's a conflict inters Honestly, I feel like, honestly,

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Speaker 3: I feel like at this point, it's a conflict of interest.

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Speaker 1: Her work for both of us the mark of a

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Speaker 1: good aide. Wouldn't you want her to do it for you?

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Speaker 3: She has to pick now at this point it's a

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Speaker 3: conflict of interests. When other people's other people's you know

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Speaker 3: name and all that starts interfering with you know, my

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Speaker 3: business endeavors.

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Speaker 1: She has to pick.

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Speaker 5: So Josh Hart doesn't like being censored. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 5: what I'm what I'm taking out from this conversation. But anyway,

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Speaker 5: let's get to the next one.

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Speaker 6: This one is for Josh. This is from a lifelong

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Speaker 6: Laker fan. Just let you know we miss you on

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Speaker 6: the team, pig Dog. My question for you is, did

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Speaker 6: you know that Lakers twitter you said affectionately call you

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Speaker 6: Josh Barkley for killing it on the boards?

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Speaker 1: Is that who I think it is? Okay, who is

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Speaker 1: the Paul? Who the hell is Paul? I'll tell you off.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I remember that. You know, my good old

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Speaker 3: Laker days. Mah, So shout out to to Mylaker people

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Speaker 3: out there.

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Speaker 5: You know, that's when you were putting up like Andre

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Speaker 5: Drummonds stat lines like seven and twelve.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have like four, I have like three shots,

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Speaker 3: I have like four points, fifteen rebounds and then just

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Speaker 3: keep it moving.

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Speaker 5: This next segment is brought to you by Body Armor

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Speaker 5: Sports Drink. The NCAA Tournament is right around the corner.

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Speaker 5: We've got some marsh madness trip a few guys. First up,

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Speaker 5: who led to twenty sixteen twenty seventeen NOVA team and

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Speaker 5: scoring points per game?

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Speaker 1: And bonus, how many did they average twenty one.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how to be me and Ryan outside

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Speaker 3: me at seventeen you said twenty one? Maybe, no, definitely

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Speaker 3: not twenty one. I'll say me at seventeen. Okay, Buckets

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Speaker 3: was the first Villanova player to win Nate Smith College

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Speaker 3: Player of the Year. First Villanova player. Okay, you kidd,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Is it you or is it Harry Kittles small Wood.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Paul it was me. Oh wow, Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: they had the nasal word back then.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that's I'm like, I don't know

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Speaker 3: how how far back that goes. How many NBA players

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Speaker 3: played in a twenty sixteen championship game between Villanova and UNC.

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Speaker 5: Is it people still currently? Only bear who touched NBA

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Speaker 5: would at any time?

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Speaker 1: Okay, what what touched the NBA would? Yeah, like the court?

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Speaker 1: That sounds outrageous.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean, are you keeping it to ourselves?

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Speaker 2: Or how many many players played in the twenty sixteen

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Speaker 2: game between Okay, hold on, so we.

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Speaker 8: Got I'm gonna let's just work on this together.

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Speaker 2: Played played played any at any time? Doctor didn't play,

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Speaker 2: So we're counted. Dante Let's counting didn't play in the Champions.

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Speaker 1: Of the Game. That's not don't count Dante.

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Speaker 2: Then okay, okay, so we got me Josh arch Daniel,

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Speaker 2: Phil Kale, Eric didn't play either. Sorry, sorry, sorry sorry Eric, Eric,

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Speaker 2: Eric didn't Eric didn't play.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so me you Arch.

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Speaker 2: Daniel, Kale, Brice Johnson, Brice Johnson, Justin Jackson, right, Justin Jackson.

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Speaker 2: More Marcus Page, Theo Pinson. Well, I missing someone on

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Speaker 2: their team. I'm going to say ten, maybe for sure?

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Speaker 1: Nine? What's the answer, Oh, Joe.

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Speaker 5: That's a poll. That's a poll and a half. God damn,

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Speaker 5: I forgot about Joel Berry. The craziest part about that

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Speaker 5: game was that if Kristen, like Marcus Page a shot,

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Speaker 5: what art would have been the best shot of the tournament.

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Speaker 2: And then you had one right after that topic, all.

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Speaker 5: Right, this next segment is brought to you by Tommy

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Speaker 5: John Comfort is the new power move. So obviously, the

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Speaker 5: biggest news in the NBA this past week is Bam

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Speaker 5: Autobio scoring eighty three points.

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Speaker 1: Funny enough, we did a.

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Speaker 5: Pod that night and it happened like an hour after

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Speaker 5: we finished recordings. We didn't have a chance to talk

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Speaker 5: about it. But yeah, I don't know, what are you

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Speaker 5: guys thoughts. I think there's a lot a lot to

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Speaker 5: around it, right, a lot of people had a lot

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Speaker 2: I'm curious what you guys think. I'll say this two

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Speaker 2: things give me true. I think forty something for a

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Speaker 2: single person is ridiculous, but eighty three is eighty three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 3: You got like, no matter what, like if you want

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Speaker 3: the free throws and that so you know, but also

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Speaker 3: you know, it also shows like if you're on that heater,

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Speaker 2: It was funny though he said, right, you're at seventy

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Speaker 2: with with nine minutes left.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I guarantee you he probably won't make won't score.

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Speaker 1: Thirty one in a quarter in the first quarter of

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Speaker 1: his career ever.

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Speaker 3: Again, I think that's so if you're on that kind

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Speaker 3: of heater and you know, suppose like rock out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're winning. You're winning. Yeah, you're not your

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Speaker 1: team to lose.

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Speaker 5: Hey, that most of the things that people had to

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Speaker 5: say were really about the last few minutes, right, But

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Speaker 5: obviously the first quarter ridiculous, first three quarters ridiculous, right,

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Speaker 5: seventy points, So regardless.

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Speaker 1: You can't really take anything away from him.

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Speaker 2: It's funny though, bro, like when they challenged that charge.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like the last four to like six

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Speaker 3: minutes just it just wasn't basketball, Like just watching it,

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Speaker 3: like teams were just doing like needless challenges, Like the.

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Speaker 1: Fouling was just so stupid.

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, so that part was probably not very ethical or.

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Speaker 1: But eighty three.

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting there like at the end of the day, like, bro,

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Speaker 3: you're I got the second highest like scoring game ever.

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Speaker 1: Were you guys surprised that?

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Speaker 5: A lot of people kind of around the league came

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Speaker 5: out and were very like openly talking about it.

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Speaker 1: Watch.

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Speaker 3: I thought I wasn't surprised because I watched it and

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Speaker 3: watched how it transpired. But I'll tell you this, in

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Speaker 3: five years, like most of the people not even remember

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Speaker 3: that He's gonna see eighty three. Yeah, so I'm not

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Speaker 3: surprised because you know, you watched. I watched the end

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Speaker 3: of the game. But like I said, eighty three to

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Speaker 2: Is he not the best bastle player in the household?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 3: I mean I guess technically that's not a household. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yes he is.

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Speaker 5: I mean I don't think it is he is baking her, No.

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Speaker 1: In their sports bro in their sport.

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Speaker 3: Yes, duh, Actually are I mean, don't say actually he's baking.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, if they played one on one, he's baking exactly.

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Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, that's auto matters.

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Speaker 3: He's the best one. We didn't say is he the

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Speaker 3: best in his respect to sport. We didn't say that

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Speaker 3: is he the best one? Yes, he's frying.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, and she had a better career. You can't

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Speaker 1: I don't even think you can't think about that.

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Speaker 5: I like, yeah, but like, okay, so someone was like

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Speaker 5: I've never seen someone was a closet game press conference.

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Speaker 2: Imagine them talking about the careers, right like, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: know I did this and this, this, and Bambers goes

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Speaker 2: you have to check up.

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Speaker 1: Check rout, check rout. You're know she's gonna see this hilarious.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna to call about this. Uh huh, well check up,

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Speaker 1: check out.

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Speaker 5: What I will say though, is if if someone were

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Speaker 5: to tell you, who do you think is going to

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Speaker 5: score eighty three in their respective league?

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Speaker 1: First? Who? I probably wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: I probably would have said man, because they were like like,

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Speaker 3: let's be real or w NBA team scoring eighty three

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Speaker 3: as a team?

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Speaker 1: Josh? What like what what? What's like the scoring w

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Speaker 1: A game? No way, you would have predicted that.

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Speaker 2: Before this, Before this game, if someone came you said

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Speaker 2: who would score eighty first, Bam or Asia?

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Speaker 1: He would then thousandths to Asia. I saw it.

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Speaker 2: I don't just you're just you're just saying this because

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Speaker 3: But I don't think it's just gonna be like oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: ag no, because like.

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Speaker 5: Sweet that I can't say. I saw something on Twitter.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if this is true or not, but

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Speaker 5: they looked at the stats. They said Bam scoring eighty

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Speaker 5: three would have been the equivalent of Patrick Mahomes throwing

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Speaker 5: for nine hundred and fifteen yards.

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Speaker 1: They can't.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, like, bro, the league average is eighty one. That's

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Speaker 10: what I'm saying, Like so like for her, that's like

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Speaker 10: equivalent of the league average of ours, probably like one ten.

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Speaker 10: All right, So that's basically me saying, Bams want to score.

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Speaker 1: What's high, like fifty fifty three? What was BAM?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, probably forty something. Yeah, that's cool. But

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Speaker 3: what I am saying is I am not picking Aga

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Speaker 2: Josh, Josh. All I'm saying is that the question posed.

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Speaker 1: Was not I would not be I would not have.

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Speaker 3: Picked Asia just because of that.

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Speaker 1: Who was scored eight for eighty points? First? Asia or

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Speaker 3: He's not scoring more than the league average, You're not,

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Speaker 3: so neither of us will, so it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Okay, literally not getting a point.

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Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, but I'm still not picking her.

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Speaker 1: I'm picking Asia over you. That's fine.

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Speaker 3: And I'm also not going to score one hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifteen points in the game. That's the equivalent of what

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying I get what you're saying, but everyone

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Speaker 3: That's fine. We're all just saying who's gonna score the

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Speaker 1: Do we know what? The three the most points ever

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Speaker 1: scored is fifty three? Is fifty three? Yes, so ass

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Speaker 3: The league average of eighty one points. She scores fifty three.

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Speaker 3: Fair enough, he might have a point.

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Speaker 2: No, he's we're taking a hypothetical question, but yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: He's making it factual. The NBA scoring lea. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: Oh man, an't time she loses? She that far ahead.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you. That's good. That was a good one. Oh.

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Speaker 1: They usually my intros, you know, use the little shape

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Speaker 2: You said, you have some stories about each of them.

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Speaker 2: right back to him, and you looked away for a

440
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 2: second and then boom, pregame hit him in the head

441
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: and pitched you in the head.

442
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: Oh ship, you were hot.

443
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: But no, no, no, no, no, no, you were hot, Like you

444
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 2: didn't look back at me.

445
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: He was hot. I was. I was scared shitless, but

446
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: that I react to you.

447
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 2: No, you didn't react to me. But like I mean,

448
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 2: there was no I passed you the ball. You knew

449
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: I passed you the ball. I had to be like

450
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: nine or ten. Wow, his name was hot.

451
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: Wow, you know you never snapped at the ball boys

452
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: because like he never snapped at the ball boys.

453
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 3: But yeah, happened, and you gotta you just gotta be

454
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 3: mad by yourself.

455
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 5: That's a quick way to get roasted on Twitter too.

456
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 5: It happened in tennis not too long ago. A person

457
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 5: was like going in on the ball boys, just like

458
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 5: come on.

459
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm talking. He looked away for quicker seconds.

460
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: Oh no, boom, he was hot. Bro I mad, Yes, mad.

461
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 2: I hit in the face of the ball. It's probably

462
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 2: mad because I was in Philadelphia. Sorry, Gampy. This man

463
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 2: was no, no, no, I don't know what he was mad

464
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 2: at man have been mad at me, but he was

465
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 2: mad because I definitely contributed to it.

466
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

467
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 9: I love Philly, by the way, but I was. I

468
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 9: was mad that night because I was in Philly.

469
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 5: Why don't we start off with a little toast tape

470
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 5: teen hundred uh, the most awarded, most award Tequila, Andre,

471
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 5: Thank you for coming on the pod.

472
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: Appreciate it.

473
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 5: So you've had You've had a lot of awards and

474
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 5: accolades and moments throughout your career. Obviously, which out of

475
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 5: your four NBA championships did you enjoy the most?

476
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 9: Oh h the first one only because you you you're

477
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 9: very like that's the happiest you'll be because you don't

478
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 9: know you know what I'm saying, Like it's like the

479
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 9: buzzer goes off, you like, oh, we just won. And

480
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 9: then those last like three minutes are the longest three

481
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 9: minutes of your life.

482
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: Jr.

483
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 9: I kept making threes and like the like the refs

484
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 9: would less stuff go. I'm looking at Zach Zarburn his

485
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 9: face like, hey man, we we deserve this, fam don't

486
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 9: don't get in away. Like I looked at him like

487
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 9: I said, hey, man, come on, man, like we work

488
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 9: hard for this, like please, it's like stock it was

489
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 9: Zach and I won't forget it, and I like Zach,

490
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 9: and so he looked at me and it was like

491
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 9: he just kept running. But once you win, it's like

492
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 9: you don't know what to do next, and so it's

493
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 9: just pure joy and excitement. It's like going to six

494
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 9: Flags for the first time or going to like the

495
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 9: water World, like for the first time. You're like, man,

496
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 9: I didn't dreamed about this and I got here. So

497
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 9: from that point of view, that was like the biggest joy.

498
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 9: And then after that it was almost like proving yourself.

499
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 9: So it was more like just like like we the

500
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 9: best and we just putting our stamp on it. But

501
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 9: then you learn the business side of it. And the

502
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 9: more you learn about the business, you learn about how

503
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 9: the schedules set up, you learn about how the TV

504
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,959
Speaker 9: games are set up. You're learning about like why are

505
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 9: we traveling two thousand more miles than another team? Like

506
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 9: you're learning about you know, you know, the circus, Like

507
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 9: we're in the circus, like the ESPN, the Turner. Back then,

508
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 9: all those schedules were based around the Warriors. And then

509
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 9: you start overthinking things, and now your love for the

510
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 9: business changes, and then excuse your vision or now excuse

511
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 9: your like how you approach the game. And that's that's

512
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 9: a scary feeling because it can take away some joy.

513
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 9: And so when you win it, you're like, all right,

514
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 9: we did what we're supposed to do. The last championship,

515
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 9: we didn't even celebrate eighteen, like we won a championship

516
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 9: and it was like we're going to Vegas now that

517
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 9: we're not going like I'll see y'all in a couple

518
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 9: of months for real, Like it was like, all right,

519
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 9: we're gonna pop the champagne, We're gonna take some pictures,

520
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 9: do all this. All right, I'm either go take a nap.

521
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,959
Speaker 9: I'm either go enjoy myself like it was. It's just

522
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 9: strange how that works, is it?

523
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 5: Because you guys were so good and you were desensitized

524
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 5: to it, like it was just a it was another one.

525
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 9: No, it wasn't because we were good. But you know

526
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 9: there's a you always see y'all have that type of

527
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 9: success where you know, I had a conversation with Steve

528
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 9: Kerr one time, and you know, we were talking about

529
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 9: different players. You know, how's this guy you know I

530
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 9: always joke about and I don't want to go name

531
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 9: names on this one, but like Sean Levis and I,

532
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 9: we would go in the game and be like we

533
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 9: always had to know how many points certain guys had.

534
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 9: All right, he ain't only got like six shots, So

535
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 9: the next four minutes, all right, he in our group,

536
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 9: Let's make sure he get his shots.

537
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: Let's make sure he get the ball on the scenes.

538
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: What plays can we call?

539
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 9: All Right, this guy, you know, like he don't have

540
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 9: his assists, so let's interchange with him to make sure

541
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 9: that you know he's good. And then like, because if

542
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 9: one guy don't get his numbers like his next.

543
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,959
Speaker 1: Two weeks to be off. Like y'all see it across

544
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: the league, you know.

545
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 9: What I'm saying, like them too don't get along, and

546
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 9: so like those type of things play a part in it.

547
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 9: And I had to tell Steve one time. He was like, well,

548
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 9: why is this guy so erratic? He was different this game.

549
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 9: I'm like, Coach, he had a suit, his shoe dropped

550
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 9: a half time of the game. It wasn't Katie because

551
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 9: Katie had a shoe dropp during the game too. So

552
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 9: like like Clay had a shoe, Steph had a shoe,

553
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 9: Kad had a shoe.

554
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 8: Draymond has a strong brand.

555
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 9: And so I had to tell Steve like, you know,

556
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 9: such and such got a a shirt or a line

557
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 9: clothing line coming out, or this guy got a shoe

558
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 9: dropping this week, so he got to have a big week.

559
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 9: And he's like, what does that have to do with

560
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 9: the game. I'm like Steve, like this is like all

561
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 9: this stuff matters, like your brand. You got to make

562
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 9: the most of the moment. And then you're looking at

563
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 9: the NBA schedule, like while wet on a five game

564
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 9: road trip, go back home for one game, and then

565
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 9: go back on a quick three game road trip, and you.

566
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: Only go West coast twice.

567
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 9: Right, we were going east coast like three or four

568
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 9: times a year, and it's like, Yo, this ain't how

569
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 9: to schedule work.

570
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: And so now you're looking at things different.

571
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 9: It can be small things like you know, it can

572
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 9: trigger like why this guy go off this game?

573
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: Like why was he mad? And it could be anybody.

574
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 9: It's because it could be something small ass, Yo, why

575
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 9: I gotta spend three thousand dollars on tickets?

576
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 8: And it's only because we're playing normally.

577
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 9: Them three thousand dollars worth of tickets would be like

578
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 9: five hundred dollars our games.

579
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: Everything's heightening. So he can be like small stuff like that.

580
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 9: And so when you look at the business of it,

581
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 9: and while this works, while that works, even within the franchise,

582
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 9: the owner might say something and you're like, wait, who

583
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 9: do you think you are? The GM might say something,

584
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 9: who do you think you are? The coach might say something, man,

585
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 9: y'all got to business.

586
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: Us doing the work.

587
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 9: And then I'm responding because I am who I am.

588
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 9: Dremond can respond because he is who he is. You know,

589
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 9: Clay can respond. And now Joe Lacup and I you know,

590
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 9: we had some interesting comments that were, you know, different

591
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 9: ends of the spectrum. You know, and now I have

592
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 9: a different level of respect from him being on the

593
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 9: different another side. But all of those stuff things are

594
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 9: coming into play, and I had some really good conversations

595
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 9: with Adam Silver and you know, as well as coming

596
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 9: to the PA, like y'all should always embrace the PA

597
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 9: and ask questions, but y'all should always go to the

598
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 9: league office like they would love for y'all to come

599
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 9: come to the office.

600
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: Like schedule meeting Adam. I've scheduled him before, Yeah, I've Yeah,

601
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: you should do it like a schedule.

602
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 9: You know, David Kelly would be the next executive director

603
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 9: of the PA, Like schedule meeting with DK. Go to

604
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 9: the office and see how things work, work on both sides,

605
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 9: because it'll help you see why certain things are done

606
00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 9: the way they're done. Like we all have an issue

607
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 9: with the rest, like all of us, like they drove

608
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 9: me insane.

609
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: Same thing.

610
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 9: But when you go behind the scenes, you look at

611
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 9: you know, the working groups between the NBA and MVPA

612
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 9: where we're trying to accomplish, the Competition Committee. It's how

613
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 9: decisions are made. It'll gives you a fresh perspective. But

614
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 9: when you're playing a game, you're doing what you love,

615
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 9: y'all working so hard, and then it's like, how is

616
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 9: it something in my way? And I'm the best at

617
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 9: what I do. You know, y'all supposed to be the spotlight.

618
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 9: It's just like when you're in those moments and the

619
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 9: trauma responses from it all, you know, it plays a

620
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 9: part in you know, how you feel about even winning

621
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 9: the championship.

622
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: I guess to some of.

623
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: The the finals MVP, to the other fifteen, one of

624
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 3: the most prestigious awards, what did winning that mean for you?

625
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 9: Honestly nothing, I am I mean because.

626
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 10: I'm like, yeah, the precede is worked.

627
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 8: That's not that it doesn't I know.

628
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 9: I understand what it means. You know what I'm saying,

629
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 9: But I just knew my value may not be understood

630
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 9: to the outsiders. And Mike Brown and I talk a

631
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 9: lot about you. You probably you don't know that, but

632
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 9: like Mike Brown and I always talk about you because

633
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 9: sometimes every team has to have that one guy who

634
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 9: and I don't even know how to say it, but

635
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 9: you have to sacrifice for the greater good of the team.

636
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 9: But everybody else is getting to get their shit off

637
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 9: and get paid. You know how crazy that is like

638
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 9: I got to go negotiate with someone who's looking at

639
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 9: my numbers and they may not understand my value to

640
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 9: the team, and the coach knows that. I'm like, yo, coach,

641
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 9: you're telling me to sacrifice for the greater good. But

642
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 9: then when I go to negotiations, they're gonna be like, man,

643
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 9: you ever seven points. I can replace that easy because

644
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 9: they may not understand a dynamic because they didn't play.

645
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 9: And so more than anything, that was probably what meant

646
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 9: the most. You know that I sacrificed for the greater good.

647
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't.

648
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 9: I never thought on a winning Finals MVP because I'm

649
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 9: coming off the bench and I'm doing a sacrifice and

650
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 9: so my numbers are never going to show, and so

651
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 9: for that to happen, it was like wow, Like I

652
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 9: thought about asking for a trade like two or three

653
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 9: times that year, Like nobody knows that part. Like Steve

654
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 9: basically was like, hey, we're a better team with you

655
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 9: coming off the bench. Like I had an incredible preseason.

656
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 9: That's what I remember, Like my body finally got healthy again.

657
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 9: I was hurt for like off and on for two years,

658
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 9: you know, year ten, year eleven, So you your body's different,

659
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 9: you react different.

660
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: And I had a.

661
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 9: Great preseason like I was. I thought I was the

662
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 9: second best player in the team. That's how good my

663
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 9: preseason was. And he was like come off the bench.

664
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 9: I'm like wait what? And then the whole season I

665
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 9: can't find a rhythm because I've never come off the bench.

666
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: It's a different rhythm.

667
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 9: And he'll be like, go in the game and find

668
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 9: a float meaning past the ball and get the ball movement,

669
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 9: meaning I'm gonna have zero all the damn time.

670
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 8: Like I'm struggling, Like let me get a let me

671
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 8: get a look at the rim. But that wasn't my role.

672
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 9: And I was struggling the whole year, and I never

673
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 9: felt comfortable until like the third round of the playoffs

674
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 9: from the whole sea.

675
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: And then stuff.

676
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 9: It just happened the way it's supposed to happen, and

677
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 9: whatever people believe in, like now it's like, oh damn,

678
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 9: Like God got certain things waiting on you.

679
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: You just got to have faith that it'll worked out.

680
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 9: Just believe in what you're supposed to believe will happen

681
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 9: the way it's supposed to happen.

682
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: So from that standpoint, it was like strengthen.

683
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 9: Your face because I talked about the the Chaplains, they

684
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 9: always showed me love, like, man, we really appreciate.

685
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: You saying that.

686
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 9: But it was just like, and that's what I mean

687
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 9: about having that giddy excitement after you win, because you're thinking, everybody,

688
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 9: I'll hug Kicky Vanderway, who he was the version of

689
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 9: He sent down the fines from the league so everybody

690
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 9: hated him. I saw him and hugged him. And that's

691
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 9: how that's how happy you are. But you know what

692
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 9: I'm saying. But from that perspective, just I was just

693
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 9: so happy and then, uh, Steph and I are going crazy,

694
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 9: and you know, everybody says we're going to Disney World.

695
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 9: We were saying we're going to Augusta because we found

696
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 9: out Coach Kerr had a someone he knew that was

697
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 9: a member. And we were joking around because we were

698
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 9: big was big in the golf and stuff was good,

699
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 9: and we were joking around coach, if we win the championship,

700
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 9: can we go to Augusta.

701
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, we don't know. We joking like, we don't think

702
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: we have a chance.

703
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 9: Like this middle of the season, none of us have

704
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 9: ever been past the second round. We up and coming,

705
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 9: so it's like, well, if we win it. Joking around,

706
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 9: he was like, oh, I'll take you anytime you want

707
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 9: if you win it. As soon as we want.

708
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: We started out. Yeah, yeah, so that was cool.

709
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 3: I would say I think for a lot of guys

710
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 3: and like in my situation, I feel like that was

711
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 3: that's really like one of the I don't want to

712
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: say one of the first, but it's probably like the

713
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: most vivid moment for like.

714
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: You know, like for all guys.

715
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: He was a real guy and obviously, like you said,

716
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: like there's guys like you have to go in you

717
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 3: have to sacrifice.

718
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: But I feel like that was.

719
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: Like one of the first times we used see on

720
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: like on the biggest platform. Was like okay, you saw

721
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: you know, you saw you get in finals MVP, and

722
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, you see that. There's I don't want

723
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 3: to say payment for a second, but I'll say payment

724
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 3: for lack of a better word, but like for all

725
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: your sacrifice.

726
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: So I feel like that's one.

727
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 3: Thing that a lot of guys, especially in my generation,

728
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: that look like role players, it's like okay, like you

729
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 3: could be that guy, and it's like all like everyone

730
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: like points to you it's like, Okay, you could be

731
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: that guy.

732
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: You might not be the one.

733
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 3: That scores the most, rebounds the most, but like you

734
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: can be the one that connects everything and you get

735
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 3: notoriety from that, especially now with you know, social media

736
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: and all that, Like, yes, you know you want to

737
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: see you score, but like you might not see it

738
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: in that, but you can still get it in that

739
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: kind of way. So I feel like that for a

740
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: lot of guys, especially in my position. You know, you

741
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: saw that, and it's like, especially now looking back at

742
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: it's like it that was dope.

743
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: I never thought about that. That's what's up.

744
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 8: And I think Draymond.

745
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 9: Has helped from that perspective as well because the career

746
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 9: he's had. You know, like you talk, all you want

747
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 9: to do is maximize your potential.

748
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: That's all you want to do.

749
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 9: Is somebody's like, all right, you get drafted, you're playing

750
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 9: in the league, Like.

751
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: What's your goals?

752
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 9: Everyone should say, I want a max minds my potential.

753
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 9: And you talk about a guy that's maximized his potential

754
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 9: because of his brain, Like he's that guy, and so

755
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 9: he's very valuable. He's made so much money because of

756
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 9: what he brings to winning. And if it's anything I'm

757
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 9: afraid about the game right now, is that winning isn't

758
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 9: the priority. Like you got a third of the league tanking,

759
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 9: like that's annoying, and or you got guys who they'll

760
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 9: never contribute to winning but have big numbers, but then

761
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 9: they'll get paid. And so how are other guys like

762
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 9: you know you got all ages do is say what

763
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 9: your numbers are, we gonna match them too. Whoever gets

764
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 9: paid high in that highest in that category. So it's like,

765
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 9: all right, go average twenty four. It's not as hard

766
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 9: as it used to be because it's more possessions faster

767
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 9: or pace. And then now everybody's like, well I play

768
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 9: the right way to win when you're gonna make more

769
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 9: money getting buckets. So like Draymond was, I'd say Draymond

770
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 9: played a big role in valuing winning and the other

771
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 9: guy seeing that they can get paid because now you

772
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 9: can get paid to being six men are getting paid

773
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 9: paid now they get paid as the.

774
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,440
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775
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 12: and so over you on the room, it's chilled. We've

776
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 12: been to rock with eighteen hundred all year long.

777
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 13: Eighteen hundred introduced the world's first aye ho tequila in

778
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,160
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779
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 13: they know that good taste does not come overnight, and

780
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,880
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781
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: Just ask Josh.

782
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 13: Cheers, and the best cocktails are the ones perfectly crafted

783
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 13: that include eighteen hundred tequila. You know what we're rocking

784
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,840
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785
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 12: Gotta know not to taste better than a touch of

786
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 12: Smogan is of Repisado and my express.

787
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: At my teens.

788
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 12: Unfortunately we don't have our expression martinis with us, but

789
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 12: we got some moripple.

790
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 13: Let's take a toast with the Repo to the next season.

791
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 13: Thus far, been a great first half and ready for

792
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 13: the second half stretch.

793
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 12: Cheers sir, even those nice We'll hit the smogan very smooth,

794
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,279
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795
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,200
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796
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797
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 5: I'm curious you mentioned you know the focus on winning,

798
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 5: and obviously someone spent so much time within the PA,

799
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 5: I'm curious your view on the current sort of situation

800
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 5: with the second you know, the aprons and what that's

801
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 5: done to you know, there's been a lot of talk

802
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 5: about what it does for sort of the middle of

803
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 5: the league and and you know, obviously stuff like not

804
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 5: being able to resign Isaiah. I'm curious sort of your

805
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 5: perspective on how things currently are and what that's done,

806
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 5: you know for the league.

807
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, so we actually been doing a study on that,

808
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 9: and so we we got to keep updating numbers every

809
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 9: every free agency or really trade cycle, because it seems

810
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 9: like the new free agency is the trade deadline, you know,

811
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 9: like are you going to pay me for my value?

812
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 9: Or do I have to get traded into a slot

813
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 9: I can pay, you know what I'm saying. So that

814
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 9: feels like that's the new age. But there's two sides

815
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 9: of it. You know, if you go back, you can

816
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 9: put an imaginary second apron in every system of the

817
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 9: salary cap going back to the eighties, right like every

818
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 9: every there's been a salary cap every NBA season, you know,

819
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 9: since this similar system has been in place in terms

820
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 9: of a salary cap. And so you can draw an

821
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 9: imaginary line and say what the second apron is. It's

822
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 9: above whatever, forty percent whatever it is. Historically only two

823
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 9: teams three teams get there anyway, and so the second

824
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 9: apron was pretty much small market having issues with the

825
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 9: bigger market teams and wanting to have that competitive balance,

826
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 9: like Indiana has never been above any apron, you know,

827
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 9: like you can look at that, Charlotte.

828
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: Never going above the first apron.

829
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 9: New Orleans, New Orleans never going to New Orleans is

830
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 9: sharing the cafeteria like you know, like you can just

831
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 9: go look and see. And so it was really more

832
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 9: of small owners.

833
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: Upset at uh.

834
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 8: And it's highlighted on the.

835
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: Warriors run because the Warriors drafted really well.

836
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 9: You can historically the Warriors have never been that good,

837
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 9: you know, but they are a big market and so

838
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 9: that played a part in too, like how do you

839
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 9: get kd or they drafted well with Harrison. But with

840
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 9: the second apron, all of the tiered players average salaries

841
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 9: are actually up. So if you say that is it

842
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 9: a bad thing? Minimums are up, the middle class is

843
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 9: actually up. Then maximum contracts are up a little bit.

844
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 9: The only thing that's down is the tier between max

845
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 9: and mid level. So like guys who make like twenty

846
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 9: five thirty million, the percentage of contracts is down a

847
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 9: little bit. And then overall, the average salary of NBA

848
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 9: players are actually up well, revenues are up.

849
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, But there's both sides you can argue.

850
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 9: For the second apron, it's just players are taking sacrifices,

851
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 9: whether it's they don't have stability so they can trade

852
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 9: it more like Dennis Schroeder and the way he's getting

853
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 9: traded is insane, right, or Anthony Davis kind of the

854
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 9: way he's been traded has been kind of, you know, insane.

855
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 9: Or if a player can't get his value with another team,

856
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 9: he can get stuck, you know, like the John and

857
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 9: the communa thing, you know, and that's the Warriors.

858
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: But why couldn't he have his potential?

859
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 9: Was what it is like if he was another franchise,

860
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:20,959
Speaker 9: would he have been more embraced and given a higher

861
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 9: number to ultimately be who he thinks he is and

862
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 9: who another team thinks he is?

863
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

864
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 9: And so there's so many different things to speak on

865
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 9: the second apron, and I think it's important for us

866
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 9: to like get the facts.

867
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 10: Now.

868
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: The one thing I will say, because.

869
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 9: I know you have a strong platform and a lot

870
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 9: of players are hearing from it, is that when you

871
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 9: go into CBA negotiations, and there's.

872
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: A CBING negotiating going on with the W right now.

873
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: I don't know much.

874
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 9: I don't know anything about it, so only what we've

875
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 9: been reading. But the big thing when negotiations is understanding

876
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 9: you have to be involved. And everyone talks about the

877
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 9: millionaires versus billionaires. They can wait longer than we can.

878
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 9: And so you never want to work stoppage because it's

879
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 9: going to affect the game, which affects everybody, right, And

880
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 9: you know, being African American men and arguing over millions,

881
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 9: it looks a lot different than Caucasian men arguing over billions.

882
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 9: It's just society and systematic America. We'll leave it at that.

883
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 9: And I want to talk about CJ McCollum. He's been

884
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 9: a lot of flak for the Second apron And I

885
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 9: always ask guys, well, what would you want CJ to

886
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 9: do differently, because we know what lockouts are like. We

887
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 9: don't want guys to lose money. We reach out to

888
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 9: guys all the time. What guys say, I'm busy, I

889
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 9: don't want no extra work. You know, you know, I

890
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 9: know what you got going on, so I you know,

891
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 9: I understand, Like the best player on the team. He

892
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 9: ain't got time for certain things. You exempt, like, I

893
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 9: don't expect MJ to be at meetings, you know what

894
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 9: I'm saying. But when I talk to another guys like

895
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 9: I need you at these meetings. I want to play

896
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 9: Call of Duty. I want to go out Michelle, I'm

897
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 9: mckel kill and that's my young boy.

898
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: I love Mikill.

899
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 8: I'm like Michal, dog you if you want of the

900
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 8: smart players in.

901
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: The league him too. We need you all wait for

902
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: I don't blame I don't blame you you but you

903
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: feel me though.

904
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 9: Right, you know, I'm on Michale all the time. Like Michal,

905
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 9: there's only but so many of us that get it.

906
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 9: So it's just like that's the responsibility heavy.

907
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: Is to hit right, And speaking of that, like, sorry,

908
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 3: obviously you got guys like Max guys, right, guys are

909
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: making sixty seventy plus, you know dollars a year.

910
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: Do you think at a certain point there's going to

911
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: be a a tip point of it.

912
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 3: Okay, we're not going to be paying these guys eighty

913
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 3: five ninety million dollars a year because like, you know,

914
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 3: let's give a space faced A lot of egos. At

915
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 3: that point, a lot of egos are going to be

916
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 3: you know, at the table. It's like, am I really

917
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 3: gonna pay this due one hundred million dollars to play basketball?

918
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: Do you think there's going to be like a uh

919
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: not regularly? Yeah. Regulation, yes, regulation would be the word

920
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 1: kapa max. Yeah.

921
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 9: Well, here's a question for y'all because this is this

922
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 9: is this is sensitive because I know what I feel,

923
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 9: but sitting in this chair as executive director, there's certain

924
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 9: things you can't say about players, even if it's the truth.

925
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: That's why I stop podcasting. You know what I'm saying.

926
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 9: So, but the question is philosophically, I'm asking y'all define

927
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 9: max and how many true Maxes are there in the league.

928
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 1: There's like tentatra maxes in the league.

929
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: So based on your answer, how many do you think

930
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: I would say, like fifteen and sixteen? Okay, because I

931
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: would consider like, obviously you're on a playoff team, the

932
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: best one to play off team.

933
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, considering I'm just saying.

934
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 8: But every team has a max guy guy or two.

935
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: So do you think the criteria for max is going

936
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 1: to be different?

937
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 9: Well, I would think it's up to us and coming

938
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 9: from us as players is a lot stronger than the

939
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 9: league and the fiduciary responsibility to the governor's I would

940
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 9: rather us put under define that than them define it,

941
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 9: because that's where the fighting starts. Now, if we can

942
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 9: all get in the room, which is very hard, it's

943
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 9: it's easy to get thirty billionaires in a room on

944
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 9: the same page on how to make money, then five

945
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 9: hundred and twenty, you know, first generation millionaires to get

946
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 9: in the room and be on the same page because

947
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 9: eagles right, Like you.

948
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: Were in a bubble. No, no, you were in a bubble.

949
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: It was hurt. Oh damn you you saw it when

950
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: you were in that meeting. Nope, the meeting used to

951
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: meet the meeting.

952
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 9: The meeting was powerful because you got a sense of like,

953
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 9: this is how we this is how we work together,

954
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 9: Like come on.

955
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta level up.

956
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 9: And we applauded us because we did a good job

957
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 9: of coming back the next day and we did a

958
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 9: good job. But it was a moment where I was like,

959
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 9: all that, this is what they say about crabs in

960
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 9: a barrel. Now we overcame it.

961
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: We did what we got to do. So I will

962
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: say that, but it was one point I was like,

963
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: I was just disappointed in us.

964
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 9: But if we can define it and then we appropriately

965
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 9: provide the wealth for everybody, we're in a good place.

966
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 9: But I do know this, it's almost like wrestling where

967
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 9: how you have storytelling and narratives, but you really got

968
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 9: like five or six guys who drive all the narratives.

969
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 8: So you got five guys that make you want to

970
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 8: watch thirty teams. If we start thinking.

971
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 9: About it like that, then it's easier to define what

972
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 9: MAX is or what guys who are the best player

973
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 9: in our teams but they're not playoff teams, or a

974
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 9: guy who has big numbers but it's not as valuable

975
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 9: to winning.

976
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 8: That's how you start figuring those things out. So it's

977
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 8: all systems.

978
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: And my devil's advocate to that is that there are

979
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: guys who are on playoff teams right, who are a

980
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 2: MAX guy right, and then like say they have a

981
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: bad year, then they're not a playoff team. Like It's

982
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: it's a very slippery slope when it comes to that.

983
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: So like if you can't there's not going to be

984
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: a definition of a MAX player.

985
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: It's going to be.

986
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: I mean, it is what it is like, if someone

987
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: feels like you're worth, is that worth they're going to

988
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: pay you that?

989
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 8: Now that a great point.

990
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 9: That's probably the like my business partner always says, this,

991
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 9: your value is what someone is willing to pay. Yeah,

992
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 9: that's always just that's a capitalistic mindset that we're supposed

993
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 9: to have anyway. But in terms of like the system

994
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 9: and how it all works for the greater good of

995
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 9: the game. Now, I'm asking that question as a rebuttal

996
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 9: or the greater good.

997
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: Of the game? Does that work?

998
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 2: You know?

999
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: Is our game growing right now?

1000
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 9: Uh?

1001
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: I think so?

1002
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: So, I would say I think so. I would say

1003
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 2: our game is growing globally. But when it grows global globally,

1004
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 2: it's like, then there's more viewership, then there's more money.

1005
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: If the revenue share gets more and more, and then

1006
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: there's more money in the player's pockets, there's more money

1007
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: in the oner's pockets.

1008
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 8: But I'm afraid. I'm afraid that we're trying to.

1009
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: Grow it.

1010
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 8: At our detriment, Meaning y'all are traveling out of this world.

1011
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 9: I sit in front of my TV, and it's Andre

1012
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 9: Miller's fault because whenever someone travels on the court he

1013
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 9: would travel, and I had this habit.

1014
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: I'll just be sitting watching a game and I'll be

1015
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: like travel and I'll just yell it.

1016
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 8: I'll be at games, I'd be like traveling, and I'm like,

1017
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 8: oh my bad, I can't. How are we traveling?

1018
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: Like this? Y'are traveling?

1019
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 9: You pick up your pivot foot. Then there's crab dribbled thing.

1020
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 9: I can crab dribble and get like six.

1021
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: Steps in.

1022
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 8: Right and so, but it's for us to grow the

1023
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 8: game right for more three.

1024
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: Or else, that's what you call it. That's not that's

1025
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: not going to game, but it is to them.

1026
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 9: It's not to them, it is, though to who whoever's

1027
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 9: allowing it, which I'm just gonna blame. I'm the space

1028
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 9: of Spade. I'm blaming the league. It's not because the

1029
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 9: way the league. I'm like, what, what, why do we

1030
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 9: come on?

1031
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 2: If you're gonna say that's growing the game, but like

1032
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: no one else is. The other league is referring the

1033
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: way like calling that stuff the way.

1034
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: We're calling it.

1035
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 9: But the NFL has their version of it, which is

1036
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 9: you better not touch the quarterback. Now, you know saying

1037
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 9: what I'm saying, because it's it's like that's the strongest

1038
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 9: asset to NFL. It's hard to find, uh, a top

1039
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 9: tier quarterback, Like that's the most important position. If you

1040
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 9: don't have a quarterback, you cannot win.

1041
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: So then when some people do a certain move and

1042
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 2: they don't call travel, right, but majority of league doesn't

1043
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: move and it's.

1044
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: Called travel, why is it called that way? I have

1045
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: no idea.

1046
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 5: I mean it's similar people talk about the fouls as well.

1047
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 5: I mean, you saw it with Jaylen Brown fly off

1048
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 5: the handle against OKC, So that's not basketball, you know.

1049
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 5: But like I think that's just another example like whether

1050
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 5: for whatever, for better or for worse, they are calling

1051
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 5: the rules are the rules. And to your point, if

1052
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 5: they're set that way and playing that way, it's going

1053
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 5: to be your advantage.

1054
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 9: And but I think one of what point I want

1055
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 9: to make is y'all have a louder say than y'all

1056
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 9: than y'all know, Like competition Committee is is like super dope.

1057
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 9: Like we sit there and have conversations on how do

1058
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 9: we make the game better, how do we protect the game,

1059
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 9: and the more player input. This is what I respect

1060
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 9: about Adam, and I got to be careful giving Adam love,

1061
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 9: because then they'll say I'm working for the league, and

1062
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 9: the same way they tell him he's two player centric

1063
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 9: and that he's not like David Stern. But Adam will

1064
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 9: listen to a player and be like, okay, and if

1065
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 9: you guys say that y'all want this for the league

1066
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 9: and it's better for the league, y'all to experts, y'all

1067
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 9: playing all right, cool, we'll do it like that's a

1068
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 9: real thing. That's why I say, just go up to

1069
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 9: the league and just tell him you feel or you

1070
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 9: tell us, and then we're like no, no, no, Josh touches.

1071
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: Such such as.

1072
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 9: They all want this, let's get it done. And I

1073
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 9: don't be like, all right, makes sense, cool done. It

1074
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 9: don't take years like the NC DOUBLEA. Like it'll get done.

1075
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 9: Everyone says the whistle change in the middle of season

1076
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 9: last year. Everybody remember that, right, Yes, now, no one

1077
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 9: will admit it. Yes, but we be having conversations like hey, man,

1078
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 9: tighten this up, man, like let's get the competition.

1079
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: It was like out of nowhere. It wasn't a gradual change.

1080
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 8: Now I can't say it was not a gradual change.

1081
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: It was just change.

1082
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 8: But Joe Dumars was a strong advocate.

1083
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 9: I'm not I don't know if he had anything to

1084
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 9: do with this, I'm not saying that, but he was

1085
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 9: a strong advocate. He was excellent in his role with

1086
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 9: the league. He was a strong advocate in the best

1087
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 9: games to view from a fan, or the games that

1088
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 9: are very competitive and if you TICKI tak and there's

1089
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 9: a whistle every five seconds, like, the game can get competitive.

1090
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 9: You're trying to figure out what to do and what

1091
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 9: not to do, get back to hooping, and y'all was hoping.

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Speaker 1: If it felt better too, didn't Yeah, sometimes.

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Speaker 8: Right, yeah, but it's like, but it's like playoff basketball.

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Speaker 1: I agree, all season. I agree.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the playoff basketball all season is very very difficult.

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Speaker 1: But MJ played it. But m J, they also walked

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Speaker 1: above the court every time walked the ball the court.

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Speaker 1: You got walking off the court in the playoffs. Damned it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, winning, he said, He said, yeah, damn, damn, damn, damn.

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Speaker 2: Some of the best calls happened off the court, like

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Speaker 2: a halftime checking with your dad to break down.

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Speaker 2: you say players now understand the rule book a little

1128
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 2: bit differently than you guys did. Yes, yes, okay, don't

1129
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 2: don't yes right, yes, So you said, players who this

1130
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: is your words, players who are smart figure out how

1131
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 2: to stay around longer. So isn't it just smart to

1132
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 2: understand the rules and how to play with them, to

1133
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: play through them, versus like, oh, we're manipulating the game now,

1134
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: so we have to change it to make it more strict,

1135
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 2: or like, is the game growing from just a players

1136
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 2: are actually thinking the game downstead of just going out

1137
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Speaker 2: there and just well.

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Speaker 9: I think it's two sides because I wouldn't call a

1139
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 9: foul baier a smarter player.

1140
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: It's just a manipulator.

1141
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 9: Okay, But the guys that can win, I'm calling them

1142
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 9: the smart guys because you got foul baters. It's like, man,

1143
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,959
Speaker 9: you're gonna shoot fifteen freezoes a night and you're gonna

1144
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 9: get your twenty five thirty and we're gonna beat You'll

1145
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 9: has it played in one though I'm not saying, I

1146
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 9: can't say I didn't say that both sides.

1147
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: I agree, it's both sides. I'm just asking your opinion.

1148
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 9: Now, the smart guys know how to just when the

1149
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 9: call is not going to be made and they can

1150
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 9: still get thirty, so they call Shaye a foulbator. Shase,

1151
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 9: I got my two favorite players in the league, I'll

1152
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 9: be honest, are Shay and and I'm just looking at

1153
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 9: who am I I want to watch next? Always like, Okay,

1154
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 9: who am I going to watch when that crew is going?

1155
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 9: When that crew is gone? So Shay and all my guys.

1156
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: I put with me there now.

1157
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 9: But I've been, I've been, They've been on my list

1158
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 9: for three years. It's like now they're coming into their primes.

1159
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 9: And people call Shay a flabator. But one thing I

1160
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 9: know about Shay is if he don't get the call,

1161
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 9: can he still get a bucket? And he's proving that

1162
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 9: to me, So I don't put him in that bucket.

1163
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 9: That's what I'm saying.

1164
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 5: With you.

1165
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 2: I just feel like these guys are getting called fabators, right,

1166
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: I get called a flaubator. That doesn't I don't really

1167
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 2: give a ship, But I'm just I'm just saying, these

1168
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: are the same players like you guys the top of

1169
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: the sky of important. You guys are watching from them

1170
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 2: before you play them. You're supposed to know who you're

1171
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 2: playing and you're still getting called for these fouls that

1172
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 2: you know that they're gonna do. So at what point

1173
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: is like, all right, you're just dumb for not knowing

1174
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: what you're supposed to be doing on defense.

1175
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: But as a defender, I think it is vice versus defender.

1176
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: Can I do my job?

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00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 5: No?

1178
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: No, you can't. You can.

1179
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 3: For example, who who do we just the Laker game?

1180
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 3: The Laker game where uh, I forgot what happened. It

1181
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 3: was it was the first half and Luca got the

1182
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 3: kind of like the fast break and it was him

1183
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 3: and Mo. Yeah, but as a defender, you're you're running back,

1184
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 3: you're trying to and if someone just runs into you

1185
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 3: and throws the ball, like, you can't do your job,

1186
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 3: you know how?

1187
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: I agree with this.

1188
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 2: Also, I was taught like, obviously you're gonna be a

1189
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 2: joke about this, but when you're playing defense, right, it's

1190
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: well it's it's who's calling it, right, So don't appear

1191
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 2: to foul.

1192
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 3: It's but you cannot appear to you know. You know

1193
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 3: how many, for example, they try to make the point

1194
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 3: of emphasis. What did you say the point of emphasis?

1195
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I know I have a list three years I want

1197
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 3: to say three years ago, but my first year in

1198
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 3: Portland was like the like, you can still be on

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Speaker 3: your path as long as you're not you're still on

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00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 3: your path and not you know, going into their path.

1201
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 3: It shouldn't be a foul. You know how many times

1202
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 3: now the offense will go into my path And you're

1203
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 3: saying that this was a point of emphasis that I can,

1204
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 3: I can stay along my path at the defender, but

1205
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 3: if you but now guys are just going into my

1206
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 3: path getting.

1207
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: Bumped and throwing the ball up, and that's a foul.

1208
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 3: So for me as a defender, I noticed everything is

1209
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 3: about scoring points and all that to a certain point.

1210
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: You can barely play.

1211
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 3: You can barely play your game to a certain extent,

1212
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 3: don't give like I get like you're going to be

1213
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 3: able to manipulate defenses and manipulate.

1214
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: Calls and all that. But I think it should be do.

1215
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 3: I think it should be a consistent thing to a

1216
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 3: point where it's like you're rewarding manipulation instead of actual

1217
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 3: basketball plays.

1218
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: I don't think you should something like that.

1219
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 2: So you would say like that player that right is

1220
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 2: with with mo defense, that's manipulation. Someone like obviously you

1221
00:57:58,560 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 2: know when I picked the ball up going to the

1222
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 2: basket and you.

1223
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 3: Ripped through, I would say, yes, but but you can

1224
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 3: do it. But that's more of a basketball play because

1225
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 3: you can do a pick up and still still finish.

1226
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 3: I just run into you and throw the ball. If

1227
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 3: I just run into you and throw the ball up,

1228
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 3: I started doing that, there's no.

1229
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: That's a coold move. Now.

1230
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 9: I used to hate that, but now I see kids

1231
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 9: doing it as a move. If you can hit an arm,

1232
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 9: that's a foul.

1233
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: That's a good because I would say, like, for example,

1234
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: and honestly, and when I do that and you don't

1235
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: found me right you put your hands back, I'm feel like,

1236
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 2: all right, I have a I can step in this.

1237
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 3: Like I was just gonna say, for example, like you

1238
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 3: do that and you you get the foul call, but

1239
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 3: you're and you're stay able to do it.

1240
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: A lot of shad he's able to do it. A

1241
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: lot of guys O G O G started.

1242
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 3: Doing He started doing that pick up like a year ago,

1243
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 3: and he gonna do that pick up regardless, and he

1244
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 3: doesn't really get the foul, but he's still able to

1245
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 3: That's why it's a bad. That's why I feel like

1246
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 3: that's basketball play.

1247
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: It was this trip that we just got back from.

1248
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: But he did it and he clearly got fouled and

1249
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 2: they didn't call it because OGA.

1250
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 3: But it's like, so I feel like if it's something

1251
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 3: like that, I feel like that's still that's being smart

1252
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 3: and being skilled because you're like you're able to still

1253
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 3: play your game.

1254
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: Get the foul because how many times do y'all do

1255
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: that and get a ones? You know what I mean?

1256
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 3: Like it's you do that fairly fairly off there to

1257
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 3: get an a one, but like you don't you never

1258
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 3: see someone just run into somebody and just throw the

1259
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 3: ball up and they get a and one.

1260
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: It's three steps though, it's it's the rule book. It's

1261
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: called gather. It depends when they get the when they

1262
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: gather the ball, You gather the ball. It's not you're

1263
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: looking at us like we made the rules. No, but no,

1264
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: I was. I would say the it's creative, I was.

1265
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: I just feel like.

1266
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 3: There's so many trap But I also feel like the

1267
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 3: game isn't as fundamental now. That's why people get away

1268
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 3: with it more now, Like if if the if the

1269
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 3: NBA and the referees and all that, like we're going

1270
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 3: to make this more like fundamental basketball, I guarantee the

1271
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 3: game would be totally different, but like it won't be

1272
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 3: as creative. Yeah, Like there with a video I saw

1273
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,919
Speaker 3: the other day of like I think it was Shay.

1274
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 3: It's funny we were talking about and he he it

1275
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 3: was like he had a step back, you know, and

1276
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 3: pivoted and then like step through but like switch pivot

1277
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 3: foots and all that, Like is that fundamental? No, But

1278
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 3: it's like that's shade, so you're able to get away

1279
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 3: with it. But if you're like, we're going to make

1280
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 3: the game fundamental, like as pure as how it was,

1281
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,919
Speaker 3: and you get rid of that, then the game would

1282
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 3: be totally different. But it's also I can't get mad

1283
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 3: at people for being either manipulators or foulbators, right if

1284
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 3: it's being rewarded, if it's not being rewarded, And I'm like,

1285
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 3: so like, okay, cool, we're not a rewarding this, so

1286
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 3: let's let's play. Now you're now I'm able to do

1287
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 3: my job as a defender to the best of my ability.

1288
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: Right right, right, right, right right.

1289
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 2: I have another situation, but when a player shot fake

1290
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: step throughs gets fouling Is that manipulation or is that foulbating?

1291
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 9: It depends on the defender, because I don't think just

1292
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 9: because you jump and contest doesn't mean you're entering someone's

1293
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 9: space and you're filing them.

1294
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: That's where I struggle with a lot.

1295
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 9: I'm like, I can jump and contests, I just can't

1296
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 9: enter their space. So just because you pump fake and

1297
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 9: I leave my feet, you can't enter my.

1298
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: Space and I fil you. I'm all right. So it's

1299
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: different situations, right, say it.

1300
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 2: One's in the paint right now, I'm stopping shot faking

1301
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to step into the basket and you

1302
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,479
Speaker 2: hit me while you're in their as I'm in the paint.

1303
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: Right. If you're vertical, yeah, yeah, it's big. If he's vertical,

1304
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: it's not a foul.

1305
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,959
Speaker 2: If you're leaning towards like you say, like you're jumping

1306
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 2: towards me, right, say, I'm like spinning back pivoting and

1307
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 2: that shot faking you're jumping towards me. You would say

1308
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: that's a foul, right easy? Is that manipulation or is

1309
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 2: that just smart? Smart? So now the difference is the

1310
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 2: three point one same thing with people. If you're jumping forward, right,

1311
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: Would you still say it's smart.

1312
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 9: If your guy leaves his feet and there's had an

1313
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 9: angle and not straight up and it's towards you, you

1314
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 9: smart to get the contact. Now, if a guy flies

1315
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 9: by you and you go sideways, I don't think that's

1316
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 9: a file. But the pump fake is one of the

1317
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 9: most fundamentally sound moves in basketball. My son he can

1318
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 9: only do one thing majority of his life. He can shoot,

1319
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 9: and I knew, hey, man, just pump fake, because you

1320
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 9: can shoot.

1321
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: Just pump fake.

1322
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 9: We practice pump fake and that, and like he just

1323
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 9: not learning how to dribble, right, But pump fake, pump fake,

1324
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 9: pump fake, pump fake is powerful.

1325
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: That's all Kobe used, right, and we big Kobe fans.

1326
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 9: Once you pump fake, if you leave your feet at

1327
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 9: my mercy, so that's smart, right, that's smart.

1328
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 8: So anything revolving a pump fake is smart to me.

1329
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 9: But once you get out of an unnatural shooting motion,

1330
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 9: that's when I think it's not a file.

1331
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 2: I have so many questions about this because there's a

1332
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: lot of great players find the way to get to

1333
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 2: the freeth tow line, and so like now with everyone,

1334
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 2: I guess trying to get to the freeth line. There's

1335
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: like a narrative about it, and say, hey, like you

1336
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 2: can only play well with free throws. So where's where's

1337
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 2: your take on that conversation.

1338
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 9: I'm looking at your body of work, right, So you

1339
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 9: had a segment on how you get to a one count,

1340
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 9: and that's what we were taught Arizona. Arizona, we couldn't

1341
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 9: come to a one to two to end uh dribble.

1342
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: It had to be one.

1343
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 8: We had to catch it.

1344
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 9: We caught the ball in the air, so when somebody

1345
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 9: passed me, the ball can be regular chest pass.

1346
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 1: I caught it with a quick pop.

1347
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 9: I got both options with my pivot feed right, and

1348
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 9: then when I dribble, I always had to come to

1349
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 9: a two foot stop. Now I got options. So I

1350
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 9: was how I was taught how to play basketball in college.

1351
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 9: That's how I was taught my fundamentals. So that's how

1352
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 9: I see the game. So I know you got certain

1353
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 9: things in your arsenal. I know it's more than just

1354
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 9: being able to get to the foul line, because I know,

1355
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 9: and I'm like, okay, and I just I'm not that

1356
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 9: are removed from y'all playing so I can still see like, Okay,

1357
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 9: he got it.

1358
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: Nope, he ain't got it. You know that.

1359
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 9: That's that's how I look at it. And so a

1360
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 9: lot of people have a lot of commentary around it.

1361
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 9: And if you can't do it, stop, don't comment on it.

1362
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 9: That's where I come from in terms of if you've

1363
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 9: never been able to play ball, or if you don't, like,

1364
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 9: if you can't put a ball in hand and dribble

1365
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 9: it like I ain't.

1366
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to hear what you're saying. Does that

1367
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: does that make sense?

1368
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 9: I just wanted to hear what because I know I know,

1369
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 9: like I know Shad's foot work, I know your full work.

1370
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 9: Like guys who can play in the post. It ain't

1371
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 9: really that, ain't you. It's hard to file bait with

1372
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 9: your back to the basket. How do you fiule bait?

1373
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 9: What you're back to the basket? Most guys who foul

1374
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 9: bait are just trying to get in all this pump

1375
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 9: fake jump into the guys. But if you can, if

1376
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 9: you got game in the block, on the block and

1377
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 9: you five eleven.

1378
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: But hold up, hold up, hold on me, are you laughing?

1379
01:04:58,200 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 5: It would be like if someone said to me, oh,

1380
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 5: you're a fire seven like I'm laughing because he you

1381
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 5: know it was a couple of inches shorter.

1382
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: He's making fun of exactly eleven. He just don't dunk anymore.

1383
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 1: Don't are you still dunk right now? I can dunk.

1384
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 8: I've seen you dunk in high school, dunk college.

1385
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: Dun you in the league one time? He never dunk?

1386
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 2: All Right, The season is given, real playoffs is gonna

1387
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 2: be here before we know it, and DoorDash is basically

1388
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 2: the third member of this friendship. Sorry, Matt, hit that door,

1389
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 2: Dash app and stay in your back early because Josh

1390
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 2: definitely won't share his food.

1391
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 3: That's crazy, real crazy. But also I gotta say it's true.

1392
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 3: Players got their bags, but fans got theirs too, And

1393
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 3: DoorDash keeps in mind Elite, snacks out in shout out

1394
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 3: to Mike and Nikes, drinks ready, gear fresh enough that

1395
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 3: I look like I'm wearing in a tunnel fit. Even

1396
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 3: when I'm walking into Jalen's house, bro.

1397
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: Shows up like it's a runway and he's just here

1398
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: to watch film.

1399
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 2: Just kidding. Josh doesn't even watch film. Meanwhile, if my

1400
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 2: team drops a close one, DoorDash already knows I need

1401
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 2: dessert immediately, my group check goes silent, Josh included, but

1402
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 2: DoorDash always pulls through.

1403
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 3: That's because I'm busy rewatching the highlights are like twelve thirty.

1404
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: You don't watch highlights well.

1405
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 3: You know it goes, you're up late, you need chips

1406
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 3: or like something random. Door Dash was literally do it

1407
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 3: for those exact I'm starving but also exhausted moments.

1408
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 2: Door Dash has me walking like the man, snacks, cups,

1409
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: even spare charger for Josh because he somehow lives his

1410
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 2: whole life on one percent serious today.

1411
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 3: But hey, from tip off to ot, stay in your

1412
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:23,479
Speaker 3: bag and order on DoorDash, snacks, drinks, gear.

1413
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: Everything you need is about the season. Door Dash in

1414
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: your back all season one.

1415
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 3: I don't want this one more question along along those lines,

1416
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 3: do you think watching the basketball a basketball game? Which

1417
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 3: game would you think would be a more entertaining game?

1418
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 3: Like the game where it's like because like now it's

1419
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 3: everything's like trying to like score, like I feel like

1420
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 3: for us, like the more entertaining competitive game when it's

1421
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 3: like those those playoffs when it's.

1422
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: Like those teams damn, yeah we barely gave to a hundred.

1423
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 3: But I feel like because one like obviously like the

1424
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 3: baskets mean more, but it's everything is heightened. I feel like,

1425
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 3: and you know, some of the flout bigging stuff is

1426
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 3: just like once you get, once you slap a label

1427
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,919
Speaker 3: on something, that's what that's all people see. They don't

1428
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 3: see like with Shay, some people don't appreciate the skill

1429
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 3: set or you don't appreciate the skillshit things to be like,

1430
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 3: oh they're flopping, but it's like no, you got to

1431
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 3: actually appreciate their game. But do you think the the

1432
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 3: offensive firepower is more entertaining for a basketball and like

1433
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 3: personal Watch or those dams, because at one point it

1434
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 3: was just like everything the rules was favorite in the

1435
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 3: offense was just points score towards score.

1436
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: But it's a really good question. I want to hear

1437
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: you answer.

1438
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 9: It's a really good question because it's like it's almost

1439
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 9: like philosophy.

1440
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 2: You know.

1441
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 9: It's because I always think we live in an era

1442
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 9: of like ninety seconds, right, Like these kids are out

1443
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 9: of their minds these days. Like when I walk into

1444
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,479
Speaker 9: the garden and I see all these twelve year olds

1445
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 9: at the game by themselves, I'm like, once I got school,

1446
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 9: Tomorrow's Tuesday when your.

1447
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: Parents I got season tickets.

1448
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 9: Like we live in a different world, and every kid

1449
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,759
Speaker 9: thinks that they're trust from baby, even like poor kids,

1450
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 9: like they're out of their minds and so they only

1451
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 9: can pay attention in spurts. So all they got is

1452
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 9: ten seconds to pay attention. If there's too many passes

1453
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 9: on the possession, they like are just boring. But that

1454
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 9: to me, that ain't really basketball. It's the intensity. You know,

1455
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 9: even when you play, are you watching your intensity? You

1456
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 9: be on people ass lock in switching, like when people

1457
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 9: can communicate switches when you x out certain ways, you know,

1458
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 9: like you don't want to give up corner threes, but

1459
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 9: when you go in the corner you want to be

1460
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 9: you want to be loaded up on the wing, and

1461
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 9: so it's like you're almost in the lane, but you're

1462
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 9: not giving up the corner three. But if a guy

1463
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 9: gets blown down down the slot, the corner.

1464
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: Guy can take it and the men guard them.

1465
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 8: I do that, I'm like, Oh, I like this, that's

1466
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 8: the basketball.

1467
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 5: I like.

1468
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 9: So it's not really I think we shoot too many threes,

1469
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 9: but I'm not really tripping. I just want great possessions.

1470
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: So don't just.

1471
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 9: Shoot a three because you're trying to shoot twenty five

1472
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 9: threes today. That's the part I'm like, So you shot

1473
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 9: it just because you're trying to hit a certain number, Like, nah,

1474
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 9: that shouldn't be aim. What's putting the most pressure on

1475
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 9: the defense because now you've got offensive rebounds.

1476
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: The easiest layup is a.

1477
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 9: Rebound from a long shot because it's gonna be a

1478
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 9: long rebound and you can't get back in transition on

1479
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 9: them long missus.

1480
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: And so.

1481
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 9: When people talk about the Warriors, and I want you

1482
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 9: to answer this question, but when people talk about the

1483
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 9: Warriors and how to change the game from so many threes, No,

1484
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 9: we played to our strengths. And our strengths was we

1485
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 9: have two of the greatest human beings and something that

1486
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 9: basketball's ever seen that it ain't supposed to be replicated.

1487
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 9: We ain't gonna never see, never see Shack again. But

1488
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 9: you had to have a cinner or you can't even

1489
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 9: get on the court with the Lakers. So you saw

1490
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 9: people going out looking for seven feet dudes like, hey man,

1491
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 9: remember when it was like, though this dude only who

1492
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 9: because he's seven feet Yeah, somebody gotta go Shack, feel me.

1493
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,560
Speaker 9: And so now we just we always over index, you know.

1494
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 9: And that's what shack and that's what Charles Barkley is

1495
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 9: speaking to. It was like, yo, when you get they

1496
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 9: don't cat a little bit. They was like, yo, when

1497
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 9: you got a little dude on you, Like we always

1498
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,560
Speaker 9: talk about percentages, like yeah, like I'm gonna have a

1499
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 9: very The defense has has to adjust if a small

1500
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 9: switches onto a big and a big goes to a

1501
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 9: block and a hook shot is a seventy percent too

1502
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 9: opposed to a thirty percent three.

1503
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 1: That's how I think about basketball.

1504
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:53,879
Speaker 2: But hey, I agree with you, like you play your strengths.

1505
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 2: But it's a copycat league and it feels like you

1506
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 2: can copy what you said, like what you say, like,

1507
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 2: I mean you can. You can look at us, for example,

1508
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 2: we got two wings who can defend the defend permitive

1509
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 2: players because of Boston.

1510
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: And Boston's putting on fifty three, everyone putting up. It's funny.

1511
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 2: It's just a copycat and people think they're like, all right,

1512
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 2: they do that, we can do it. We can do it,

1513
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:29,679
Speaker 2: and sometimes that some people can replicate it. There's there's

1514
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 2: certain teams that can play to that, but that can

1515
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 2: be their strength and can't.

1516
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 9: And that's the that's the sign of a great organization

1517
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 9: or coach or GM when you can adjust, if you think,

1518
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 9: if you like a longevity. The one thing about Greg

1519
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 9: Poklovich was in him what style he adjusted every era.

1520
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 9: They had every type of style. They had a style

1521
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,839
Speaker 9: for David Robinson. They had a style for Avery Johnson

1522
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:57,839
Speaker 9: as a point guard. They had a style for Kawhi,

1523
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 9: they had a style for Menu, They had a style for.

1524
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 2: Tim Like I feel like they also had like the

1525
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 2: same kind of core for a very long time.

1526
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 8: Tim Duncan could be the fourth option and be accepted.

1527
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 2: I know, I'm just saying like it was. They had

1528
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 2: the same type of core. Yeah right, Yeah, and while yeah,

1529
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 2: while the coach adjusted to each anisota the players.

1530
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 9: So that's admitted. They won in like three different decades. Yeah,

1531
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 9: they never went back to back. Yeah, and then they

1532
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:26,600
Speaker 9: about to make a run out of it again. Well

1533
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 9: they tanked a little bit, they said, they said. But

1534
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 9: but that's another point I was trying to make.

1535
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 6: Two.

1536
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 9: Where is our owner is going to be cool with

1537
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 9: playing paying players a one hundred million Yes, because the

1538
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 9: third of the league is tanking to find the next one. B.

1539
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 9: So if I find that guy, that's gonna change my uh,

1540
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 9: it's change evaluation in the trajectory to franchise for the

1541
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 9: next twenty thirty years because you're your errors last longer

1542
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 9: than like Steph Era is going to last longer than

1543
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:54,759
Speaker 9: his playing career.

1544
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:57,799
Speaker 8: The Bulls are cool with being.

1545
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 1: Tense for decades.

1546
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 9: Outside of the Rows all because MJ Chicago. The Chicago

1547
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 9: fans love their sports. They love basketball. They are selling

1548
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 9: out regardless of if they're competitive or if they're not.

1549
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,839
Speaker 9: Every crazy because kids.

1550
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 5: Right, there's a whole generation of kids that experience that

1551
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:20,560
Speaker 5: that them grow up in com parents and want it

1552
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 5: for their.

1553
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 9: Kids, right, And so Steph Curry, I get noticed everywhere

1554
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 9: I go now because Steph Curry, right, And it's the

1555
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 9: gift of the curse. But I'm saying everybody were red

1556
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 9: and black because of Michael Jordans. I see so much

1557
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 9: blue and gold, and I see so many kids pulling

1558
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 9: up math court. But the Warriors are they had the

1559
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 9: revenues from the top sports franchises came out today, right.

1560
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 9: I saw it on like Forbes or Boardroom or something today.

1561
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 9: And the Warriors are the highest revenue team in the

1562
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:54,759
Speaker 9: league that's going to continue after Steph and Joe. Joe's

1563
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 9: my man. Me and Joe in a good place. But

1564
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 9: the Warriors are smart. Joe's secret Sauce says, he knows

1565
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 9: how to find talent. He knows how to find smart

1566
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 9: people to run this organization.

1567
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 8: But you can't sell. You're selling gold, go to super

1568
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 8: valuable right now.

1569
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 9: Right Steph Curry is going to keep that revenue rolling

1570
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 9: for decades after he's playing. And I think when we

1571
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 9: can understand that as a collective, that's when we can

1572
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:23,759
Speaker 9: start moving different. And we have an understanding of styles,

1573
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 9: We have an understanding of how to build an organization,

1574
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 9: and we understand why teams are tanking because they're trying

1575
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 9: to find somebody to do that objectory to organization for

1576
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:33,679
Speaker 9: not just their playing career, but decades after.

1577
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 1: Damn. We can go on about this forever. Part one.

1578
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: To have you back for sure?

1579
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 5: Anyway to switch topics a little bit, andre you know,

1580
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 5: we know you're a big golfer.

1581
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 1: We're all golfers here.

1582
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 2: You have a favorite golf trip you've been on or

1583
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 2: a favorite course that you've played.

1584
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're not supposed to say you played Augusta.

1585
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: You're supposed to you're not supposed to say you play. Yeah,

1586
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to say you played. But we have

1587
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: some amazing trips. I guess you never played a Gusta.

1588
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 8: Any dudes, you should go to Bandon.

1589
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 1: I want to go to band so bad A Bandon's

1590
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: Bandons the Ultimate.

1591
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 8: You got kids now and you married? You married, you

1592
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 8: got kids?

1593
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: Bandon.

1594
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 8: Dudes a spot for us, Like, it's like Disney Journey.

1595
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 1: To get there, it was like Disney World. Yeah, organ

1596
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 1: drove Coast.

1597
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 8: I drove there once from friend. It's like a nine

1598
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 8: ten hour drive.

1599
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: Five course.

1600
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 3: You know they just finished the six six course, part

1601
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 3: threes three, part three top like almost every he drove

1602
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 3: nine hours.

1603
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: We had a party van. All the guys.

1604
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 3: I do that time through all the four or five

1605
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 3: of their courses are top one hundred in the country.

1606
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: A man, A couple like, it's is it link style? Yeah,

1607
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: one of them I.

1608
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 8: Wouldn't consider, but they are. Listen, man, take your dad

1609
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 8: and when you're you know you got a girl.

1610
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 9: If you ever have you got boys. I took my

1611
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 9: brother who wasn't in the golf man. He started crying

1612
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 9: on the course. He was like, man, the most beautiful

1613
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 9: thing I ever seen.

1614
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: It's on the Pacific Ocean. No, it's different, and you

1615
01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: have and you have to walk, you have to You

1616
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 1: got no cart carts? I like, right, like this this

1617
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: is crazy.

1618
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 8: And then but you got a book of eighteen months

1619
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:07,799
Speaker 8: in advantage.

1620
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's how it is. Though.

1621
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,839
Speaker 8: People travel all around the world like people life savings

1622
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 8: to go there.

1623
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 1: Wow, it's incredible. Let's to find that spun on Airbnb. Yeah.

1624
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,839
Speaker 9: I know the guy Mike Ker built it from Chicago.

1625
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 9: I know some folks like we could figure this out

1626
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 9: all right where we are summer.

1627
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 1: You can play. We're playing for you. That that's my

1628
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 1: favorite club. Yeah yeah, best club in the bag. Maybe

1629
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 1: he has a driving iron, so use it. Yeah yeah.

1630
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: Can you hit it off the ground? Yeah, oh you

1631
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: can play. Play.

1632
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 8: No, you can hit a driving iron off the ground.

1633
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: No, tea, you can play. Yeah, but like all the

1634
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: shooters can play. They got this is cheeko. All shooters

1635
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 1: can play. Left. I beat Josh two times, and he's

1636
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: a better golf the better golfer. I just said, you're

1637
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: the better offer. Chill out. Okay, I just said he's

1638
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 1: the better offer. But I beat him sent the row.

1639
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, I got a friend who he beat me twice.

1640
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 9: That's all you talk abo, And I'm like, bro, you

1641
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 9: I'm one hundred and two.

1642
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: Versus the last two times we played.

1643
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 2: Did you beat him in Vegas when we played No, no, sorry, tied,

1644
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 2: tied one place?

1645
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 1: And what you beat me at wing foot win foot?

1646
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: That's gonna do. I never played golf in New York

1647
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 1: because I'm always in the office.

1648
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 8: Bro, I'll be working. That'sh it hard w I know,

1649
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 8: I know courses, I just haven't.

1650
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 9: In August playing up when y'all come to sand like,

1651
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 9: we got to do a Sand friend trip and I

1652
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 9: get y'all all the So the courses that are like

1653
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 9: New York, they're the same courses are like that in

1654
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 9: Northern California, like top tier.

1655
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 1: So we got you don't be clubs on the road,

1656
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 1: do it? Just it depends what the how the road

1657
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:45,719
Speaker 1: trip is formed.

1658
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 2: I was, I put myself I wait till year ten

1659
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 2: to bring my clubs on the road.

1660
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 9: You're not of your ten yet, no, damn. Well, y'all

1661
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 9: just been so what. Your career has just been so great.

1662
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 9: It just feels like you've just been around you had

1663
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 9: allowed eight years. I've had allowed four. No, you were

1664
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 9: you were doing numbers in Dallas. I loved four and

1665
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 9: a half. What are you talking about.

1666
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: I would say five, like your first couple of years.

1667
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: But then like when y'all got you had no we

1668
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: knew you were.

1669
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 9: We were like, they're always try to figure out somebody's

1670
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 9: NBA player. So your first two years you were just

1671
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 9: trying to get settled, but we knew you were NBA players.

1672
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: Like, no, this do good, but we didn't know you.

1673
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 5: It is good, Sam, Yeah, I mean the reaction when

1674
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 5: you got paid what you got paid, A lot of

1675
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 5: people didn't didn't think it was worth it.

1676
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 1: He was not true. I was true with you. I

1677
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 1: know that I exact it was.

1678
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 8: With Dallas.

1679
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 9: It's a great contract for New York. I would do

1680
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 9: it for New York, but would Dallas want to do it?

1681
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 9: But because they had you coming off the bench, so

1682
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 9: they had you. I was starting then you sure at

1683
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 9: the end of the year, then through at the end

1684
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 9: of the year. He started once once Luca got hurt

1685
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 9: in December January, our starting since done.

1686
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 1: It was situational. No, I was starting because of the

1687
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,560
Speaker 1: situation of him and getting hurt. That's what he's But

1688
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 1: then once he came back, I was starting. It wasn't like, oh,

1689
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:17,560
Speaker 1: you're back on the bench. I started the rest of

1690
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 1: the year and then too the playoffs. Small sample size

1691
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. So this is what this is.

1692
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 1: I said, boom play. Look Exhibit A B C right here.

1693
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 8: I say, it's great for New York.

1694
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, bro, thank you. I've got the clips.

1695
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 8: I'm a great deal in New York.

1696
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 1: But I didn't know you were just good? Whoa you?

1697
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: The time you up?

1698
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 8: This is what you do all the time. So I've

1699
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 8: seen that before you got the deal.

1700
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: All right, where are we going the summer? What's the

1701
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: go off trup? What's the verdict? It's too late for banding?

1702
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, go to pebblebb Yeah it'll be hot though, right no, no, no,

1703
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 5: it's not at all all right, and I feel like

1704
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 5: we have to go on AIRBNBA find a spot, like

1705
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 5: if you're gonna go on a golf trip, but the boys,

1706
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 5: you gotta stay at the end of the house.

1707
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 1: Good house, Yeah, good house.

1708
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 3: I'm back to the ac after Yeah, hopefully something with

1709
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 3: like a little hutting green or like you know, chipping area, hold.

1710
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 2: A little what's it called tea bucks in the of

1711
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 2: the roof of the house thirty six today. I would

1712
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 2: I would love, wouldn't I've ever done it? By Wood,

1713
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 2: who's the best golfer has ever played in the NBA.

1714
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: It's it's deph, No, he's not.

1715
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 9: He's like he could play prof for he's up like

1716
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 9: a plus two plus three Reeves.

1717
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: Austin's up there, up there, But Austin's hill billy golf.

1718
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 8: He's got a unique swing, So how good could he

1719
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 8: get with his swing?

1720
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 9: So like he could get to like a plus two

1721
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 9: plus three, but like Steph can get to like a

1722
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 9: plus six plus seven.

1723
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, them dudes are different. But I like Austin. He

1724
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:50,560
Speaker 1: got a game before we let you go.

1725
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,559
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1726
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 5: where we make it legendary. So Andre, who is one

1727
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,560
Speaker 5: legendary woman athlete that you want to get flowers to?

1728
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 5: And why oh man.

1729
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Speaker 9: Oh, Jackie joining Cursey, I got a lot Jackie joining Cursey.

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