1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: And you're here. 2 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 2: Thanks for choosing the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost, d A 3 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: and Paranormal Podcast Network. Your quest for podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: and the unexplained ends here. 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: They invite you. 6 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: To enjoy all our shows we have on this network, 7 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: and right now, let's start with Chase of the Afterlife 8 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: with Sandra Champlain. 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 10 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 3: to Coast, am employees of premier networks, or their sponsors 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi, 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: that our loved ones have survived physical death and so 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 3: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife Today, I'm 20 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: excited to share with you Sean Leonard, who speaks of 21 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: how he found his own purpose as a spirit talker, 22 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 3: joining the two worlds through psychic mediumship, including a vision 23 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: with his own father from the afterlife, and how we 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: have our loved ones and spirit Totem animals helping us 25 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 3: along our earthly journey. Sean is the host of a 26 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: great television series called Spirit Talker. Has over twenty five 27 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: years of experience connecting with loved ones and ancestors. He 28 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: comes to us from Nova Scotia and is the author 29 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: of the books Spirit Talker and Walking with Your Totem Animals. 30 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 3: You can find out more about him at Sean dash 31 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: Leonard dot com. Sean is spelled shaw N. Now let's 32 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: meet Sean. 33 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: My name is Sean Leonard and my Indigenous name is 34 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: White Eagle Spirit Talker. I'm currently living in Nova Scotia, Canada, 35 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: which is the eastern part of Canada, and I've been 36 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: doing this work my whole life. In my culture, we're 37 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: called spirit talkers. It's like a psychic medum, a person 38 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: who connects on bridges the worlds, and I've been doing 39 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: this work for over twenty five years. We're all here. 40 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: We may believe that we're human, which we are in 41 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: this form, but we're all spirit that transcends the human form, 42 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: and we have a teaching in Indigenous culture we say msittnogama, 43 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: which means all of my relations, And when we say 44 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: things like that from all of our ceremonies, it's a 45 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: remembering ever connection to all things to you know, Grandmother Moon, 46 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: grandfather's son, Mother Earth, the trees, the forests, to animals. 47 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: I mean, these are all our ancestors. When we think 48 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: of our ancestors, commonly think of loved ones that are past, 49 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: and we would not be here if it We're not 50 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: for Mother Earth or grandfather's son and all the divine 51 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: energy that brought us all together into this form to 52 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: be here in this physical presence. And I know concept 53 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: of your podcast is life after life in a sense, 54 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: but there's no life after death. It's just life after 55 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: life after life after life. It just keeps going. I mean, 56 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: we've existed forever, and I do feel like there's an 57 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: evolutionary part to our development through life, and that's why 58 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: we're in this form and who we are today is 59 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: we've grown spiritually through many lifetimes to be on this 60 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: one right now, and this one is equally is important 61 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: to any other one that you have lived or that 62 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: you will ever live for me like I've had many 63 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: times growing up, as I'm sure many people your listeners 64 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: have had experiences throughout the lifetime, and those are gifts, 65 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: absolutely gifts, and when you really like reconnect to those memories, 66 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: it's really empowering and strengthens that connection, that wisdom, that knowledge, 67 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: that faith that we are all connected, and said and Olgamant. 68 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: When I was a young boy, I have memories of 69 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: my great grandparents visiting me when I was just a 70 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 1: little boy, probably like four or five years old, after 71 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: they passed. I remember being in my room and having 72 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: them show up as kind of shadows in my room, 73 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: and I knew they would talk to each other, and 74 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: I knew that there were my great grandparents. Now, being 75 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: a young boy, it was startling, but my mom made 76 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: me feel very comfortable with the fact that it was 77 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: very common that our loved ones would spend time with us. 78 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: I mean, how odd is that to think that we 79 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: are going to drop in in our people that we 80 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: love from time to time when we move into spirit, 81 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: all of us. If you have children, friends, family, you're 82 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: going to be dropping in on them too. You're not 83 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: going to be like haunting them. Go oh my god, 84 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: I'm going to be with you all the time. But 85 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: they know that when we're thinking of them, and they 86 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: know when we're speaking of them, because we're all connected. 87 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: There is no disconnection between us, so there's always, like 88 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: call them, the strings of connection to our loved ones. 89 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: So it's impossible to ever have that kind of understanding 90 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: or belief that they don't know that we're speaking about 91 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: them and such like they're always there. As I grew 92 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: one of the most profound things that really kind of 93 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: happened to me is I was like just a normal 94 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: kid like everyone else. I had many flying dreams when 95 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: I was young. I got to experience the astra world 96 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: quite profoundly, and it was amazing. And I'm sure maybe 97 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: some of your listeners will know this too, that when 98 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: you were maybe younger in life, you would have dreams 99 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: where you would fly like the birds or go out 100 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: around your neighborhood and play in the night. And I 101 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: used to do that on will And as I grew 102 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: and became more let's say, connected to Mother Earth, that 103 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: I started to lose that ability in a sense. And 104 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: I remember the day that I was losing my ability 105 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: to fly because I lived in a small town called Elmsdale, Nova, Scotia, 106 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: and we lived on a big hill. When I left 107 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: my home, I would go out and I would try 108 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: to fly like I used to, and it became harder, 109 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: And I even remember running down the hill flapping my 110 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: arms like the birds, hoping somehow I was going to 111 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: like get some airtime and I would float up and 112 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: then I would gently kind of float back down to 113 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: Mother Earth. Is because as we become more enriched with 114 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: our connection to Mother Earth, we sometimes forget to remember 115 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: our connection to spirit and who we truly are. So 116 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: as I progress through life, I had many connections to 117 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: my spirit guides when I was young, especially one guy 118 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: named Sam, and I remember him being with me at 119 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: a young age and always coming to tell me different things, 120 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: and I argue with my mom about a lot about religion. 121 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes he would tell me stuff and she would always 122 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: like argue with me about what was said from Sam, 123 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: which is fine because that was still my mom's faith 124 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: and belief, and I'm glad that she has such a 125 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: strong faith and belief. But eventually Sam, probably around six, 126 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: I'll say, maybe five to six, I remember him talking 127 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: to me downstairs on the basement. He always wore a 128 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: long white robe, it kind of short, curly hair, kind 129 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: of piercing blue eyes. He was like a Caucasian fellow, 130 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: even though I'm Indigenous, I come from Indigenous ancestry. In 131 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: this physical life that I'm living today, we've probably been 132 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: all religions, all sexists, all people, It's true, at our 133 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: many lifetimes. But he appeared to me this way, and 134 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: he said, Sean, I just want you to know I 135 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: won't be able to be with you the way that 136 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: you see me anymore. And I didn't understand because I 137 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: was there playing with my little toy cars on my 138 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: basement floor, and it felt very profound what he was 139 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: saying to me. But I still was confused about this, 140 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: like where could you possibly go? And he says, just 141 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: remember I'm always going to be with you, but you 142 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: will not be able to hear or see me the 143 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: way like you do now, and I'm like okay. And 144 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: then this huge, beautiful white light showed up and he 145 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: walks into this light and it's just like a doorway 146 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: just collapsed on itself and he was gone, and I 147 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: felt alone. I felt like I lost my best friend. 148 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: And because we're young, you could call it that I 149 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: went through like a grief of sorts for probably like 150 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: a week. When you're young, your mind is developing still 151 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: and you're still engaged in life, and you healing men 152 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: much quicker than if you're much older in life if 153 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: you lose somebody. But I didn't really lose him. I 154 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: just lost the sense of him, like speaking like what 155 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: we do with our and physical family. So I progressed 156 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: in my life and being the young boy that it was, 157 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: driving my bike and doing all kinds of silly things. 158 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: I must have people watching out for me because I 159 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: shouldn't be alive of all the things that I used 160 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: to go through when I was a kid. My mom 161 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: pretty much just like go outside and have fun, come 162 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: back at supper, come back at dark. I was lost, 163 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how many times in my life, but 164 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: I always found my way out of it. But the 165 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: creator spirit or angels of guys or ancestors are always 166 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: like kind of helping us and protecting us in different ways. 167 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: But it wasn't until I was like fifteen that really 168 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: something massively tragic happened, and it was the loss of 169 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: my father. My dad was forty two years old. He 170 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: was in the Navy, he smoked, he drank a little 171 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: bit from time to time. He didn't eat very well. 172 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he had a high stressful job as a 173 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: chief petty officer of an engine room on a destroyer 174 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: for the Canadian Navy. He was very sedentary, like he 175 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: kind of like had to sit in the ship and 176 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: just pretty much eat and do his watches. And he 177 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: was gone to see a lot. And I remember, probably 178 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: the first week of October, we started building a garage. 179 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: It was getting a bit cold out and he complained 180 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: to me about being short of breath, having a cramp 181 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: in his arm. He was sweating a little bit profusely, 182 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: and asked me if he should be worried. And I'm like, well, 183 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: you should really go to the doctor if you're really worried, right, 184 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: you shouldn't just ignore something. I'm being sarcastic as a 185 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: young man. I'm fifteen. And he says, yes, I think 186 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: I'll do that. Within a day or two later, my 187 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: mom had woken me up at let's say five o'clock 188 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: in the morning and said, Sean, there's something wrong with 189 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: your Daddy's out on the driveway. You have to go 190 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: help them. So I jump up immediately aut a bed 191 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: run outside, and he just got this like second hend 192 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: for a truck that he was really proud of. And 193 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: the door was open, the truck was running, it was 194 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: still dark, it was cold again. Could see her breath, 195 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: and I'm running around the truck looking for my dad 196 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: and I couldn't find him. And I thought my mom 197 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: must be losing her marbles, really, because maybe they had 198 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: an r argument and maybe Dad walked off and my 199 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: mom was kind of reacting in a strange way. And 200 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: so I came back in. I told my mom and 201 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: she says, no, you'll have to go out. He's laying 202 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: right beside the truck door, beside the hedge. I went out, 203 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: walked around the whole truck. Nothing didn't seem And then 204 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: I walk in and it's like, Mom, you sure Dad 205 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: didn't get up and go somewhere. He maybe just fell 206 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: down and hit his head or something and got up 207 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: and walked it off. My mom then grabs me and 208 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: takes me outside and then points to me at my father, 209 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: and he was exactly where she said he was. And 210 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: to me, it's very mind boggling because in those two 211 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: times that I walked around the truck, I must have 212 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: walked right over them. There's no way that I could 213 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: have not seen him. He was like he was invisible 214 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: to me. I have this kind of understanding now that 215 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't meant to find him right away, and maybe 216 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: he was a visible to me, and maybe spirit made 217 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: it as such because he was making his transition and 218 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: I was not meant to impede even though I tried. 219 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: I then rolled my dad over. I'd started performing CPR. 220 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: I learned a little bit from boy Scouts, and even 221 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: though I my dad, I could feel like his body. 222 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: And I know anybody that's lost, anyone that they love, 223 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: it's like this shell of a person. You can feel 224 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: that their spirit is absent. The essence of who we are, 225 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: a spirit, our aura, our light was no longer in 226 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: this form, and I could feel him there though I 227 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: could really feel his presence even though I'm performing CPR. 228 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: I started speaking to my dad, who I knew was 229 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: watching me, and I said, Dad, you got to get 230 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: back in your body. I know that you're here, I 231 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: can feel that you're here. Please listen to me, Please 232 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: get back in your body. But I knew somewhere subconsciously 233 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: in my heart that he was not coming back and 234 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: I continue to perform CPR, and some neighbors had come down. 235 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: The ambulance arrived, but I knew when I left that 236 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: was going to be the last day, the last moment 237 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: I would spend with my dad in the physical form. 238 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: They passed away October sixteen, nineteen eighty seven. I was fifteen, 239 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: and it was a year later. Like I was grieving 240 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: in my own way, because we all go through our 241 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: journey of grief. And I was hanging out with some 242 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: friends and playing music. And when I was younger, I 243 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: smoked a bit of weed sometimes too, So I'd go 244 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: and hang out and smoke a joint with my friends 245 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: because that was the way it was grieving. I didn't 246 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: know who else to grief. There's no like anybody to say, Okay, 247 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: this is how you go through this in a healthy way, 248 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: And even if they did, I probably wouldn't listen to them. 249 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: So I went out and hung out with my friends, 250 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: although I wasn't smoking any weed. That night, I came 251 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: back and I snuck in through the basement window. And 252 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: the reason why I did that was because I knew 253 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: if I could get out and in that my mom 254 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't know I was missing, and I was doing this 255 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: pretty successfully. I was like again grieving my own way. 256 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: So I was getting out and I failed in my 257 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: school that year. It was just I was a struggle. 258 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: So I came back and slept on the couch. Made 259 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: it look like I've been there all night. And it 260 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: was about three o'clock in the morning that I awoke. 261 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: We'll take a quick break and then we'll be back 262 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: with the dream visitation from his dad. You're listening to 263 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 264 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 3: Coast A m Hairinormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades 265 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 3: of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. We're here with medium 266 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: Sean Leonard explaining when he was just a fifteen year 267 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: old boy finding his deceased father, grieving deeply, spending the 268 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 3: night on the couch. And here's what happened next. 269 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: And it was about three o'clock in the morning that 270 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: I awoke from this deep sleep that I was in 271 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: after coming home a road in midnight or something like that. 272 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: And I woke about three o'clock, maybe three point thirty. 273 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: And what woke me was because there was this ball 274 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: of light in the room. I'm downstairs of my mom's 275 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: couch in the rock room, and in the back wall 276 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: there's an orb of light. And this orb of light 277 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: is about the size of a basketball. And as I 278 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: observed this orbit light, it just grew and grew, and 279 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: then it got longer and turned into about the size 280 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: of a person, a space that a person could walk 281 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: out of this light and then out walks my dad. 282 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: And this is pretty profound because like when I used 283 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: to see my spirit guy when I was young, Sam, 284 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: he used to wear a long way robe, which I 285 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: thought was ridiculous, right, like, why are you wearing the 286 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: house coat all the time? Right, And that's what my 287 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: dad was wearing. 288 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 4: Now. 289 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell you wear in death? 290 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: My dad would never be caught dead wearing anything like this, literally, 291 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: And he was walking out of this light wearing this 292 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: long way robe. And first I was very elated to 293 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: see him. Who wouldn't be when you see a loved one, right, 294 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: And then it got angry, But I didn't express my anger. 295 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: I just felt it because I was angry at and 296 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: for leaving me, my mom and my brother. And he said, Sean, 297 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: you need to calm down. I've come to you with 298 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: a few messages. First of all, I'm okay. And even 299 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: though he started to talk and I could hear him speaking, 300 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: it was amazing to see my dad healthy, well, vibrant, 301 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: despite what he was wearing, because again, he would never 302 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: be caught dead wearing this. Honestly. I became fixated on 303 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: the light behind him, and he would speak and he says, hey, 304 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: you need to tell your mom I'm okay. You need 305 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: to tell your brother I'm okay. And you got to 306 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: promise me you remember to do this, and I'm like, 307 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: I will, I will. And I kept peeking around him 308 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: to see the light, and when I saw it, I 309 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: felt like it was home. I said, Oh my god, 310 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: this is where we come from. This is reality. The 311 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: part I'm playing in the person that I would call 312 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: Sean in this moment is just part of an orchestrated 313 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: experience of many lifetimes. Although I didn't experience any of 314 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: those other lifetimes, I knew that I exist to be 315 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: on this life, and all I could think about was 316 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: walking into that light and going home. And he got 317 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: my way. He says, no, you're not coming in here 318 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: because you've got stuff to do. You've got a purpose 319 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: to be here. For and I'm like, really, like, no, no, really, 320 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: I can leave. I'm pretty sure I could leave. And 321 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: then I tried to convince them and say, well, I 322 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: just want to go check it out for a few seconds, 323 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: because I knew if I could get in there and 324 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: just check it out for a few seconds, you would 325 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: take an army to get me out of it, because 326 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: there was no way I was coming back out of 327 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: that light if I could get in there. And he says, well, 328 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: I got to show you a couple of things. I'm like, okay, 329 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: because I'm going to show you what it looks like 330 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: for your mom if you were to come home with me, 331 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: and he gave me an image of everything that my 332 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: mom would struggle through, and my mom would grieve really hard, 333 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: like she was going to grieve about three years with 334 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: the loss of my father, but it would be like 335 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: way longer, seven years if I left. Her prolonged pain 336 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: of suffering through her grief would be very hard. And 337 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: I felt it all in a moment, and then I 338 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: felt what it'd be like for my brother if I left. 339 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't as profound, but still painful. And again, when 340 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: you're young, you keep from grief in a much different 341 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: way than if you're my childer I told my dad. 342 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: I said, well, no matter what, I understand that my 343 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: mom will struggle, and Jamie my brother, but they are 344 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: real and seven years to me in an eternity seem 345 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: like a short time. And he said, no matter what 346 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: they go through in life, Dad, they're just going to 347 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: come home with us anyway. They're going to be okay. 348 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: But no matter what pain and struggles they go through, 349 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: one day they will step outside of them come where 350 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,719 Speaker 1: we are. And he says, no, he says, I have 351 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: to tell you something else. He says, we all have 352 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: a divine purpose to come into life, and I fulfilled mine. 353 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: And long before you or I were born, we made 354 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: this plan. We made this plan because I was always 355 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: the one who is going to help you remember the 356 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: light again and who you are and where you come from, 357 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: where we all come from. And he says, one day 358 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: you're going to be helping people understand this concept and 359 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: you're going to be bridging the connection between here and there. 360 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay. Because I was a big Star 361 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: Wars fan, I'm thinking this sounds like Gibberish and Yoda speaking, 362 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: and this is like ridiculous, right, And I'm just dismissing it, like, 363 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: get whatever, let's go into the light, dad, And he's 364 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: like no, he says, you've got to remember this, and 365 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: he said you promise men, he will. I said, I will, Dad, 366 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: And then he touched me in the forehead and I 367 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: woke up on the couch and it was profound. I 368 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: never forgot it. And I got up and I told 369 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: my mom and I was like, oh my god, I 370 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: saw a dad last night. And I thought my mom 371 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: would be like happy, you know. I thought she'd be 372 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: joyful that Dad is okay, right, And maybe she was 373 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: for a moment, but she really got angry because she 374 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: had a lot of repressed emotions in relation to the 375 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: loss of him, and she was mad because, well, why 376 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: did he come to you? Why did he come to me? 377 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: Doesn't he know how much I'm struggling and how hard 378 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: I have it, which is where she was with her pain, right, 379 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: And I understand that again, we all a grieve in 380 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: different ways and it takes different times and there's no 381 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: right or wrong way, and she had a process that 382 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: she needed to go through, and he was right. It 383 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: was about three and a half years later my mom 384 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: had met some other person it was Larry, and she 385 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: eventually would have an amazing relationship with Larry and get 386 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: remarried and continue her life. Unfortunately, Larry's made his journey 387 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: home too, and that's a whole nother discussion. But we're 388 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: all on a journey here, and we all have a 389 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: divine purpose for being here. It's not an accident that 390 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: we have shown up here. And we may think that 391 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: all of our circumstances that we feel are very limiting 392 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: or painful or hurtful, are somehow some catastrophic accident that 393 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: somehow I've gotten into that I shouldn't be in. But 394 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: everything is set up for us to learn what we 395 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: need to learn for the time that we're here. Because 396 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: when we make plans such as these to come into 397 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: life and be the people that we are to the 398 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: fullest and great disabilities that we can be, we may 399 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: not get it all in one lifetime. It may take 400 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: many lifetimes to accomplish or understand the concept of a 401 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: certain knowledge wisdom lesson teaching that we're meant to kind 402 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: of go through and we have forever, So why rush. 403 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that you're not going to struggle with 404 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: grief for loss I still do. I just lost a 405 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: friend the other day. I lost my cat when I 406 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: was in Rhymebeck doing a class at the Mega Institute, unfortunately, 407 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: but I had a great little gift. And this is 408 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: something I haven't really spoken about publicly yet, but I 409 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: think I left on Thursday to go there. But the 410 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: Tuesday evening before going to Rhymebeck, I woke up and 411 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: I saw a lady standing at the end of my bed, 412 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: and she was five 't two, and I believe she 413 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: was one of my spiritual guides. But she was dressed 414 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: very oddly, and I thought, this is odd. She was 415 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: all dressed in black, like a nun's habit. But I 416 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: knew I wasn't scared because I knew she had a 417 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: lot of compassion. I could feel her spirit. And she 418 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: had this veil on. It was like a wedding veil, 419 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: but it was like down past her face. What I 420 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: thought when I saw it was that it was some 421 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: type of garment of mourning. And she was staring at me, 422 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: and then she stared at our bed, and like, why 423 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 1: is she staring at her bed? And then she just 424 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: quickly floated into the other room, like fast I saw 425 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: her turn and go, and she was gone. And I'm 426 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: scared to tell my wife because having experiences like this 427 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: all of my life, in different forms, in different ways, 428 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: I know something's coming, and I don't know what exactly 429 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: is coming, but I know something is coming, and I 430 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: don't want to scare her because I'm going away. So 431 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: I said, well, I saw her. I think it's Victoria, 432 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: one of my guides, who is five foot two, dark hair. 433 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: But she was staring at her bed oddly, and I 434 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: don't know why. I think she was doing some type 435 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: of ceremony, I said, but she looked like she was 436 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: preying on a space on our bed. So that gave 437 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: my wife a bit of ease. And then I went 438 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: down the Rhinebeck and I did my class at the Omega. 439 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: On Saturday, Michelle called and I could tell there was 440 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: something wrong, and she says, I don't know how to 441 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: tell you this, but our cat died. And she says 442 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: she died right on the bed where the lady was 443 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: staring that you said she didn't wake up. She died 444 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: in her sleep. She was laying as she normally sleeps, 445 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 1: with her pout on her head, on her paw and 446 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: never woke up, so it was really hard. So I said, well, 447 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: please put her in something until I can get home 448 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: and do a ceremony for her and honor her in 449 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: a good way. So that's what she did. No matter 450 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: how spiritually elevated experiences or how psychic you are in life, 451 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you're not going to go through things 452 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: a loss. But I see it differently. I still warm, 453 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to mourn like I don't think 454 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm ever going to see these people again, because they've 455 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: appeared in so many amazing and great ways throughout my life. 456 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: I've not had a visitation with my cat yet, although 457 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: I can hear walking around the room sometimes, so I 458 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: know she still visits. But all of our loved ones, 459 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: even our animals, and everybody that has an animal connection, 460 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: and in our culture and Migball culture, we have what 461 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: you call totem animals too. We even have like sacred 462 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: animal let's say, guardians or guides that are walking with us. 463 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: Hence my second book, Walking with Your spiritonin animals. And 464 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: I have an amazing, profound connection with the polar bear. 465 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: I have seven different parts of polar bears now that 466 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: have come to me, and that all stems from a dream. 467 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: And maybe I'm getting ahead here. I should let you 468 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: talk a little bit because I could keep talking a 469 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: doc talk. 470 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 4: Well, just sending lots of love because I know how 471 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 4: difficult grief is, but I also know it's made us 472 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 4: who we are today. And I love that you were 473 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 4: raised with that belief that your ancestors can come and 474 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 4: go and visit, so we were open to it. I 475 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 4: remember you speaking about an experience when you were a 476 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 4: maleman and then also reading Ryan is that the correct name? 477 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 4: Something like that that gave you a little shift. 478 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm not sure about the Ryan thing, but I remember 479 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: a few experiences with being a male mag Yeah, I 480 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: think you're talking about Orehon. Yes, that's where my gun 481 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: in Rejet. They put a thought in my head because 482 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: I know when spirit's speaking to me is because I 483 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: don't know. And then sometimes they'll just go it's ore hand. 484 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, thank you, And we may just 485 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: think that's our own mind doing some thinking in the background, 486 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: but it's really not. Because I'm not searching for the 487 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: answer all of a sudden, the answer just comes to me. 488 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: And that's a really good way to distinguish when your 489 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: people with you is you might not have thought of 490 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: mom or your son, or your uncle or your uncle 491 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: Tim or John or whoever in a long time, but 492 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're just driving and you have 493 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: this memory that comes in your mind about you know, 494 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: something funny that you once did. And that's their way 495 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: of like Kate and say hey, I'm hanging out with 496 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: you in the moment that gives you an opportunity then 497 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: to just say, oh, thanks for dropping and I know 498 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: that you're with me, and I really appreciate you think 499 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: you can me and spending some time with me today, 500 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: And even if it's just for a few moments, it's 501 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: a little visit that we can like embrace, right. So 502 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: that's how I've learned to kind of embrace life. And 503 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: sometimes we'll send like signs like the song like come 504 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: on the radio that makes remind you of someone particular, 505 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: or the card the hummingbird shows up and just hovers 506 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: in your face and stairs out you. Lately, it's been 507 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: the woodpecker for me because my dad was very connected 508 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: and I found a dime yesterday. I opened my car 509 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: door and there's a dime sitting there. Because he used 510 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: to send me dimes a lot, and I haven't got 511 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: one in a while. And then when I woke up 512 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: this morning, when outside there was a woodpecker somewhere in 513 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: the trees and then making the woodpecker noise that he makes. 514 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: And then I went to somewhere else and another woodpecker 515 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: was there. And my dad had a woody woodpecker tattoo. 516 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: So that makes me think of my dad, right, So 517 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: when things like that happen, we'll be right back. 518 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 3: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio 519 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 3: and Coast to Coast, a Hairinormal Podcast Network. Welcome back 520 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 3: to Shades the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. I had made 521 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 3: a little note to ask Sean about Oryan, and when 522 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 3: I mentioned that, he didn't know who I was talking about, 523 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 3: and then he got a little drop in in his 524 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 3: mind or a hand, and he proceeds to tell us 525 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 3: how those in spirit can just do a little drop 526 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 3: in in our lives, whether it is a name we 527 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: had forgotten, a sign, whether it's a song, whether it's 528 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 3: finding coins he finds coins from his dad, dimes in fact, 529 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 3: or he'll see a bird. So he continues and gets 530 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 3: into his first mediumistic experience. 531 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: And so things align the dime Woodpecker's being a different spot. 532 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: So I see that as like he's been hanging out 533 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: with me a little bit lately, and I appreciate that. 534 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: I really appreciate that he does from time to time. 535 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I have children too, have two beautiful daughters, mckenzi, Inciana. 536 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: And then one day when I make my journey home, 537 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: hopefully it's before them, that I will be doing the 538 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: same for them. I'll show up and like ringing the 539 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: doorbell or something like that, say to let them know 540 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: them there, deliver the mail in a weird way because 541 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: I was a mailman so way back when. What really 542 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: shifted my perception of this whole connection thing because even 543 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: though I was developing and learning and connected, I was 544 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: still kind of uncertain about them really speaking to me. 545 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: And I was starting to embrace the fact that I 546 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: might be psychic, I might be a psychic medium. I 547 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: was never quite sure because identity is a big part 548 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: of this because when you start to identify and maybe 549 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: I should go back because in indigenous culture, because my 550 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: name is White Eagle Spirit Talker, when you're given a 551 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: name by an elder. There is an expectation by the 552 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: indigenous community that you will live up to the name, 553 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: that you will live the name, because if you say 554 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: I am psychic, I am connected, I am open to 555 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: a universal divine connection from higher source, and then they 556 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: will connect to you. Is because it's something you identify with, 557 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: it's something you align with. Because we're creators, we create 558 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: our life. We can co create it from a space 559 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: fund conditional love, which is our source, which is where 560 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: I saw in the light and felt is an unconditional 561 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: loving feeling, that vibe, that is the emanation behind all things. 562 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: And anyway, when I was developing and started doing sessions, 563 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: I was a little bit skeptical because I wasn't sure 564 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: if this is my mind or where this is coming from. 565 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: And I even told a guy I work with or 566 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: hand because at that time I was not a mailman. 567 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: I was like then, building office furniture. And I worked 568 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: in that company for like fourteen fifteen years. I worked 569 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: my way up through the whole company from hands on 570 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: building furniture to actually do an AutoCAD and builds and 571 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: material and stuff like that. And I was doing okay, 572 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: and one day I'm just sitting there typing in my 573 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: computer kind of in a zone, because I feel like 574 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: mediumshippers getting messages from spirit, you have to colmost get 575 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: into these kind of spaces or a zone. It's really mindfulness, right, 576 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: It's just mindless because if our minds are so busy 577 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: all the time, it's thinking about so many things that 578 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: we're never creating space in our mind to actually allow 579 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: something to come in, like the guidance, the message, the direction, 580 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: the voice that says it's orient right, just like what 581 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: just happened here as we speak. And it doesn't require 582 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: like big moments of meditating a mountains for like thirty 583 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: to forty minutes. It's just small moments of maybe five 584 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: to ten seconds or even three seconds sometimes where you 585 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: can just be still and be contemplative within your mind 586 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: and just see what might come in. And I've learned 587 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: to create spaces like that to receive information from the 588 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: spirit world. So I was sitting at work typing and 589 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: it kind of just kind of zoned out, and then 590 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: I heard a voice in my head that goes, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie. 591 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, who the hell is Charlie? And I'm 592 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: sounding the voice out in my head like Charlie. Somebody's 593 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: got to be Charlie. And so I look at Orient 594 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: and think, okay, well you must know a guy named Charlie, right, 595 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: And they're doing something on the weekend, and I'm just 596 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: somehow getting his vibe and they're planning something like outing. 597 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: I was so intrigued. I had to ask where An. 598 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: I said, Oran, you know who I am and what's 599 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: been going on with me and all this and how 600 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: I've been developing and growing, But do you know a 601 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: guy named Charlie? And he goes, I used to know 602 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: a guy named Charlie. As soon as he said that, 603 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: he was just like a memory popped into my head 604 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: of a bar sign. And the bar sign was the 605 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: Town and Country Bar in Calgary and the Foodtheoll's Industrial Park, 606 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: and it was just like a big tnc. It just 607 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: went quick. And I've seen the sign before, so I 608 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: know what the sign is because I've driven by it. 609 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: I've gone to the bar like once or twice when 610 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: I was young. But why would it be popping into 611 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: my head now? Right? So that was so strange. When 612 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: you said you knew a guy named Charlie. I saw 613 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: the town and country bar sign he goes, that's the 614 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: last place Charlie was seen alive. I'm like, what I mean, 615 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: So you have to know something happened to Charlie, right, 616 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what how up in to Charlie yet, 617 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: and Orion gets a little weirded o it immediately because like, 618 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: how the hell do you know this? And then soon 619 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: as I saw that, I saw a house and I 620 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: saw this little thatched roof and there stairs going into 621 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: a basement apartment, and I saw him walking down into 622 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: the basement. I saw three shadows of people behind him 623 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: and they follow him. And then I felt like I 624 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: got hit in the back of my head and I 625 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: didn't know what happened. So that's all I know. And 626 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: I didn't really know who it was, but I knew 627 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: something had happened because of it, but it wasn't at 628 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: the bar. All he says he knew about Charlie was 629 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: that he was at the bar and that was the 630 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: last place he was seen alive. But that's all he knows. 631 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay. He gets mad and he goes, how 632 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: did you know this? Who puts you up to this? 633 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 4: Like? 634 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: How did you find out about Charlie? I'm like, how 635 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: do you even know Charlie? He goes, well, I used 636 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: to work with him at the airport, like eight years ago, 637 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: and his name's not even Charlie, it's Charlie. We just 638 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: nicknamed him Charlie. I'm like, okay, so let's think about this, Orent, 639 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: I didn't even know you worked it there forty eight 640 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: years ago. Let alone, I worked with a guy named 641 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: a Charie who was nicknamed Charlie. Like, how am I 642 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: supposed to put all this together? Like? Did you tell 643 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: somebody like really close to us around us at work 644 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: that this is this story and somehow you think they 645 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: knock into me somehow? And he's no, I've never told 646 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: anybody about this. I'm like, well, how do you think 647 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: I know? I don't know it just he came to me, 648 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: and I don't really know what it all means. But 649 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: I said, you don't know anything about this house or 650 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: the downstairs apartment thing, and he's like no, And you 651 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: got mad, still thinking that somehow this was some type 652 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: of like fix. He's getting punked here somehow, right. So 653 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: we let it go, and months had gone by and 654 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: I came into work because I'm Canadian most of us 655 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: are all hockey fans, and I would get the paper 656 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: to look up the hockey scores. Right, it was the 657 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: Calgary Sun paper, So I picked up the calgarysan and 658 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: I'd go into work a little bit early and I 659 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: would flip through the articles to see what the scores were. 660 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: And I'm looking through the hockey score of last night's 661 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: game and then there's a full page story about a 662 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: guy named a Charry and an unsolved murder in Calgary 663 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: and they're looking for information or if anybody has information. 664 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: They were offering a reward or something like this. And 665 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: so I'm reading the story and they have a picture 666 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: of this house where he was found murdered. They showed 667 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: the picture of the town of country Bar that he 668 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: was last seen here, but where was found murdered was 669 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: at this house. And the picture of the house was 670 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: the back of the house and had a little thatch 671 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: roof stairs going into this downstairs basement apartment. I'm like, 672 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is like exactly what I saw. 673 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: Orin comes in, he sits down and I say, or An, 674 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: can you please read this? Because yeah, what do you 675 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: want to me to say? I'm like, I really need 676 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: to know because This is when I was really confused 677 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: at that point about how is this coming to me? 678 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: Is this coming from someone else's mind or is it 679 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: coming to my mind from spirit? And I really needed 680 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: to know the difference. Did you know anything about this house? 681 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: So the thatch roof and he goes, what are you 682 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: trying to say? I didn't do anything. I'm not saying 683 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: that I was in Bosnia at the time when that 684 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: all went down, And I'm like, I'm not accusing you 685 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: of anything. I just need to know. Did you know 686 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: about this house? Because I saw it? Remember I told you? 687 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: But it goes, yeah, I remember you saying something about it. 688 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: Because he was really having a hard time admitting to 689 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: all this because he knew that I was developing and 690 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: starting to learn about my connections and abilities and such, 691 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: and you start believing that this is real. No, I 692 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: did not know. You're going to leave me alone? And 693 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: why is this so important to you? And I said, Aaron, 694 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: because if you don't know this part and this is 695 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 1: coming to me, I'm going to tell you. This feels 696 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: like people are telling me stories about their life and 697 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: who they were, what they went through, their experience. And 698 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: this is not random. It's not random. This is like 699 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: really somebody talking to me. It feels like a person. 700 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: And that was a moment that was life changing for 701 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: me because it just like hit me like a ton 702 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: of bricks. It all became very real, very clear, very fast, 703 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, I understand there is a 704 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: language here. I understand how spirit can and does communicate 705 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: to people like myself, or can communicate to all of 706 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: us because we all come from the same source. We're 707 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: all that light, that being of light that exists within 708 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: our form, all children of the same light, no matter 709 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: what culture, faith or belief or whatever we audiologically put 710 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: on that. I mean, that's just the human way that 711 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: what we do things. But we'll all come from the 712 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: same source, and there is a form of communication. And 713 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: I learned it almost all at once. It was like 714 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: you see things, it's like a memory, but many times 715 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: these memories aren't mine. And we all can daydream, right 716 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: And if you were to daydream right now, if you 717 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: all just picked one space in your life where you're 718 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: at your absolute happiest of life, could you pick one 719 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: moment and see it just briefly in your mind? You 720 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: can now, what if somebody showed you theirs. What if 721 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: somebody from spirit world showed you that they're in the 722 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: hospital in a wheelchair and struggled with mobility, but you 723 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: were there to take them outside and help them at 724 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: the end stages of their life, and they really are 725 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: grateful for it. So that might be an image that 726 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: somebody might share with me because they knew that you 727 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: love them so much and you're struggling with their loss, 728 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: but you knew that they didn't want to be in 729 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 1: the hospital and they were a bit stubborn the two. 730 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 1: Because you can feel people, you can feel their spirit, 731 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: you can feel their personality, you can feel how they 732 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: felt about where they were, you can feel how they 733 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: felt about life. Even there are synonism about different things, 734 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 1: and you can feel things about these images. It's not 735 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: just a visual image. You can feel depth. There's much 736 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: more than just seeing. It's like you see it, but 737 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: you feel it, and sometimes you know it. You don't 738 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: know how you know what you know. And many times 739 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: we'll meet people in life and know we can feel it. 740 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: You may meet a person at the store and that 741 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: they might be putting on a happy front, but you 742 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: know that they're struggling and they're hiding how they really 743 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: feel because they're going through some stuff in life, but 744 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: they're putting on a happy face. But you can feel 745 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: the difference. You can see it in their or you 746 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: can see it in their light, you can see it 747 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: in their spirit, that there's a heaviness that they're carrying. 748 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: It's just life. Unfortunately that we sometimes repress things right 749 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: because we're not able to deal with it in a 750 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: good way. But that's an energy. It's nonverbal. Doesn't means 751 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: spirit cannot be verbal. Yeah, absolutely, Spirit can be verbal. 752 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: It's usually small, simple little voices that they place, like 753 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 1: in your mind, like Ethan or Emily. But it's just 754 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: like it just pops in and you're like, okay, why 755 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: didn't that come to me? Just different words that come 756 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: into your mind. And you may meet somebody and you 757 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: just like sitting with them for whatever reason, you just 758 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: want to say Ernie. I don't know why I want 759 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: to say Ernie, but Ernie's in my head. And I 760 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: think we rob ourself of the opportunity to see how 761 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 1: spirit is communicating to us because we bypass these saucible 762 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: This is just a thought and it's not relevant so 763 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: much more. 764 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 3: When we get back you're listening to Shades of the 765 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 3: Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 766 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 3: Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm 767 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,720 Speaker 3: Sandra Champlain. In this segment, our friend will talk about 768 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 3: spirit totem animals, how we can connect. But before we 769 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 3: get there, he was just speaking about how signs and 770 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 3: messages and words and names and memories can just pop 771 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 3: into our mind from out of nowhere. Does that happen 772 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 3: to you? Those are little drop ins from our loved ones. 773 00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 3: Let's continue. 774 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: It's usually small, simple little voices that they place, like 775 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: in your mind, like Ethan or Emily. But it's just 776 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: like it just pops in and you're like, okay, why 777 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: did that come to me? Just different words that come 778 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: into your mind. And you may meet somebody and you're 779 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: just like sitting with them. For whatever reason, you just 780 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: want to say Ernie. I don't know why I want 781 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: to say Ernie, but Ernie is in my head. And 782 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: I think we rob ourself of the opportunity to see 783 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: how spirit is communicating to us because we bypass these 784 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: saucible This is just a thought and it's not relevant. 785 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: How do you know it's not relevant if you don't 786 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: say who's Charlie. So this is my one book called 787 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: Spirit Talker, and it was a bestseller in Canada, which 788 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: is amazing. I'm on a small network called eight P 789 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,760 Speaker 1: ten which I also have a TV show called Spirit Talker. 790 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 1: And there's a little trick to this because eight ten 791 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: has like a free week or something you can sign 792 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: up for. Sign up for a week, you might be 793 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: able to, like binge, watch all the Spirit Talker you want, 794 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: because there's five seasons of Spirit Talker. And I'm also 795 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,720 Speaker 1: an author of this book, walking with Your Spirit Animals 796 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: and again profound story abook to Polar Bear in this 797 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: and how our ancestors are also spirit guides from the 798 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: animal nation that walk with us. And I carry a 799 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: claw from a polar bear and it came to me 800 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: because of a dream, and I asked spirit to send 801 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: me something to validate. And now there's no polar Bears 802 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: in Nova Scotia, even though people tell in the US 803 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: went thick, Canada is all gold everywhere eight eight in 804 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: Nova Scotia, it's pretty much like New York almost. But 805 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: after the dream, I asked for a sign, and I 806 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: asked for the bar nation to send me something to 807 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: signify that they were deeply connected to me. And that's 808 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,720 Speaker 1: what came in the mail from somebody that metok elder, 809 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: and the elder said this, you need to give this 810 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: to someone, and it came to me that way. But 811 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm also a hel so author. I have an oracle 812 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 1: card deck which is also very inspired by my indigenous culture. 813 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 1: It's called Wisdom of the Elders Oracle. All the artwork 814 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: is done by a local Indigenous artist named Tracy Metallic, 815 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: So all the artwork is Indigenous connected, and the teachings 816 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: and things that are share in is also And just 817 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: to kind of sum it all up, I teach people 818 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: about development and understanding their connection. And I have a 819 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: new book coming out through HAOS next year and it's 820 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 1: about Grandfather's Son and manifesting your purpose. 821 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 4: I'm very inspired. We still have a few minutes left. 822 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 4: I know you were on a role when you were 823 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 4: talking earlier about polar Bear. Okay, you want me to 824 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 4: share that story, I do, and then just any tidbits 825 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 4: leaving our listener with something empowering. 826 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,439 Speaker 1: I think many of us have had dreams of animals, right, 827 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: and it may be just a pet or maybe for 828 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: whatever reason, the deer keeps showing up in your dream 829 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: and you don't know why the deer keeps showing up, 830 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: or a skunk or a porcupine or something. But there's 831 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,720 Speaker 1: lots of different animals, and I feel like what happens 832 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: is that they are our ancestors. As indigenous people. We 833 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: know that they are our relations because we're are related. 834 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: If you actually take the human DNA and break it down, 835 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: we probably share about thirty percent of the same DNA 836 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: with the freaking jellyfish. So we are related, whether you 837 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: like it or not. We're made from the same source, 838 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: so there's a genetic connection to us all. So to 839 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 1: think that we only have like humanistic guides or angels 840 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: with wings, I mean even angels themselves, are you know 841 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: what humanoid with wings like? Connected between the animal nation 842 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 1: and the human nation. That's the depiction that everybody's kind 843 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: of familiar with. I was in a field in the stream, 844 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 1: and there was these seven shadows of people that were 845 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: chasing me, and I didn't know why, and I was 846 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: trying to get away from them, and I saw the 847 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: edge of the field and I knew if I could 848 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 1: get to the tree line, that I would be okay. 849 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: So I'm running through this field and I see these 850 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: shadows who I don't know who they are and why 851 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 1: they're chasing me, but I knew I had to kind 852 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: of get away. And then out of the trees walk 853 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,720 Speaker 1: seven polar bears. And these seven polar bears started running 854 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: towards us all, and I'm like, oh great, Not only 855 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: do I have to outrun seven shadows after outrun seven 856 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: polar bears, for God's sakes. So I run for my 857 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: dearal Lie, and I get to the middle of the 858 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,760 Speaker 1: field and I realized I cannot outrun them, so I surrender. 859 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: I get in my knees and I wait for the 860 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: polar bears to pretty much devour me. But all seven 861 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: polar bears ran past me, and the shadows that were 862 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 1: still running, each polar Bear wul kind of pounced upon 863 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: and they would just kind of dissolve, And then all 864 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: the bears turned around and walked together into one great bear. 865 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: And the bear stared at me like in a very 866 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 1: kind of mystical way, and like, oh my god, the 867 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 1: bear is not here to hurt me. He's always been 868 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: here protecting me. So I asked a treator to send 869 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: me a claw. I made an offering a parade, and 870 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: that's something I would say, is if you dream of 871 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 1: an animal, and this is one way you can validate it. 872 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: It's like, maybe there's a unique way you can send 873 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: me a piece of yourself so that I can carry 874 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 1: your medicine in life and know that I walk with 875 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,760 Speaker 1: you and your teachings, and I will share my teachings 876 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 1: with you with others. So I said, can you please 877 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 1: send me a claw? And that was it. I put 878 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: it out, didn't tell anybody. And then months ago, I'm buying. 879 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: A little package came in the mail and it came 880 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: from a lady from Newfland who just went up to Labrador, 881 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,760 Speaker 1: another part of New Fland where there is polar bears, 882 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,439 Speaker 1: and she met with the elder who gifted her two 883 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: claws and said, listen, Barbara, this one's for you, but 884 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,479 Speaker 1: this other one's meant to be gifted this someone else, 885 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 1: and you will know who it's meant to go to. 886 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,919 Speaker 1: So she goes home thinks for like five minutes. She said, 887 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: because the only person I could really think it was you, Shan, 888 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: So I'm going to send it to you, and I 889 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 1: opened the package and it was that claw. It was 890 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: that claw that came to me. Now it gets stranger 891 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: because right after that, somebody had called me and said, 892 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 1: could I get a session with you? And I know 893 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: that you don't do them anymore, Me and my mom 894 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 1: really could use one. And it's funny because I think, 895 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, I feel like I have to offer 896 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: you this old polar Bear rug that I have. And 897 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: then someone else came to my house and gif to 898 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: me another little piece of polar Bear for my smudge bowl. 899 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: To sum up the whole story very quickly, I've just 900 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 1: received my seventh piece. One of the most of me 901 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: is sitting right here. I can see him from here. 902 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: While I was writing this book, I get a call 903 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 1: from a lady named Kelly Finnegan and her husband Steve, 904 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,399 Speaker 1: and he said, can we meet you at Tim's. It's 905 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: like Starbucks in Canada, right, So we go to Tim's 906 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 1: and they go. Steve's dad passed away recently and we're 907 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: dealing with his estate and we were going through his 908 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 1: stuff and we discovered something that he's been holding on 909 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: to for like forty or fifty years. He has this 910 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: whole Polar Bear rug with the head, the claws, and 911 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: like everything intact, and we don't know what to do 912 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: with it, and we're thinking we'd like to offer it 913 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 1: to you. Can you take this and care for it. 914 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I absolutely will. I'll honor it, I'll respect it. 915 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: I'll keep my medicines on it, my sacred medicines and 916 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: sacred objects and such. So I have it, and it's 917 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 1: not a trophy, it's a sacred I have my medicine 918 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: on him now and I sit with them, and you 919 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 1: know what, the funny things is the dream that I have, 920 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 1: the polar bear is merging into one bear. When I 921 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: look at him and I sit there, it is the 922 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: bear in my dream. I feel like all seven of 923 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: those polar bears knew who I was, and they're gifting 924 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 1: me pieces of themselves so that I can carry the 925 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: story of who they are and the medicine that they carry. 926 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 1: And just recently I was doing another event and somebody 927 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 1: gifted me this, so I keep it on my desk. 928 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: It's a polar bear skull. It's a sacred object. And 929 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: in indigenous culture why we use ego feathers in different 930 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: things is because again, they hold medicine in power. We 931 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 1: carry these things into our ceremonies, into our prayers, and 932 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,800 Speaker 1: their medicine. Their spirit is still connected to these aspects 933 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: that are still remaining, so they walk with you. Hence 934 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 1: why it's the book is called Walking with Your Spirit 935 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,280 Speaker 1: Tonem animals. And what I would say is, if you're dreaming, 936 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,399 Speaker 1: or if even if you feel like an inkling, then 937 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,760 Speaker 1: you feel drawn to one animal over a particular another, 938 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 1: you've probably connected to that animal. And we have many 939 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 1: totem animals. I say we have at least for at 940 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: least for if not more, And I do believe that 941 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 1: they come to a different stages of life depending on 942 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: what you're going through in the stage of life, and 943 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,360 Speaker 1: you maybe need to have that medicine at this stage 944 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: of life. My tone of minimals are actually on the 945 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 1: front of the book, my four, but I feel like 946 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: I can work with different animal medicines too, because you 947 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: might be going through something and the otder shows up. 948 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: Many people take work of cards and pull a deck 949 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: looking for a message. But what if spirit is sending 950 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: you a message. What medicine does that animal bring to 951 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 1: you your life right now? And it just showed up 952 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 1: three times? Or the turtle crossing the road that you 953 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: had to break forward to let cross the road. What's 954 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 1: the story does the turtle bring to you at this stage? 955 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 1: And when you start to recognize this, you'll see that 956 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: everything is Creator. There's no space that Creator is not. 957 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: And the signs, the symbols, the synchronouses, the things that align, 958 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: especially with the animal nation, are part of that. Your gods, 959 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: your angels, and your tone of animals are trying to 960 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: help you walk through your life in the most amazing way, 961 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: is the best way you can, in the greatest way 962 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: you can for the rest of your life. And they 963 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 1: want to help you walk it. And we can call 964 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: upon them and ask them for help or to buying 965 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 1: guidance or to carry their medicine today in this court 966 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 1: ruling or this divorce that you may be facing, or 967 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 1: this situation, the strength the courage to overcome something that 968 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: is hard, and you can embody that and their spirit 969 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 1: with you and help you face the hard things that 970 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 1: we do face. 971 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 4: Sometimes, Sean, I feel like there's a little shout out 972 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 4: from our dads. My dad passed into spirit sixteen years 973 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 4: ago and the only time I've been to Nova Scotia 974 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 4: was on a trip with him, and we stopped at 975 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 4: every times we saw the love, the coffee and the donuts. 976 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 4: And then I have bird feeders and this morning I 977 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 4: saw hummingbirds, woodpeckers and cardinals. 978 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 1: Oh that's amazing little things. 979 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 4: Sean, thank you so much for being our guest today. 980 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for having me on, Sandra on. 981 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,479 Speaker 3: Is such a delight, isn't he. You can find out 982 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:08,280 Speaker 3: more about his TV show, which is called Spirit Talker 983 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 3: on this network, the Aboriginal People's Television Network. It's a 984 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 3: streaming service and you can find it simply by going 985 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 3: to ap t N plus dot ca and there is 986 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,240 Speaker 3: a two week trial subscription and it's only four ninety 987 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 3: nine if you want to binge watch all five seasons. 988 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:41,240 Speaker 3: His website is Sean dash Leonard dot com spelled Shawn 989 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 3: with the hyphen and the word Leonard like the animal. 990 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,800 Speaker 3: If this episode's made a difference for you, or any episodes, 991 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 3: do feel free to share. Most people believe in the afterlife, 992 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 3: they just don't talk about it. So if you get 993 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 3: into a conversation, hey, have you heard of Shades of 994 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,240 Speaker 3: the Afterlife? You can find it on any podcast network, 995 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 3: including iHeartRadio. Of course, don't forget to come visit me 996 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 3: atweedotdie dot com for past episodes, free copy of my book, 997 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 3: and so much more. Remember we are never alone. Our 998 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 3: loved ones are our biggest cheerleaders, and we will most 999 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 3: definitely see them again. I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you so 1000 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 3: much for listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the 1001 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. 1002 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost 1003 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 2: Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out 1004 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 2: all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going 1005 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 2: to iHeartRadio dot com