1 00:00:11,697 --> 00:00:14,977 Speaker 1: You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,977 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:18,017 --> 00:00:19,737 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 4 00:00:20,137 --> 00:00:23,817 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. Very special 5 00:00:23,857 --> 00:00:26,697 Speaker 2: guest on this episode. Many of you will know him 6 00:00:26,737 --> 00:00:33,977 Speaker 2: from his omnipresent Internet presence, the formidable Dave Rubin of 7 00:00:34,057 --> 00:00:36,817 Speaker 2: the Ruben Report Show, which you can all watch on 8 00:00:36,937 --> 00:00:40,817 Speaker 2: Rumble and listen to the podcast. And mister Rubin is 9 00:00:40,817 --> 00:00:42,177 Speaker 2: an honor. Good to have you here, sir. 10 00:00:43,097 --> 00:00:46,297 Speaker 1: Fuck I'm feeling very overdressed. I'm wearing like a very 11 00:00:46,377 --> 00:00:50,217 Speaker 1: well fitting jacket, nice shirt today, and you're in a 12 00:00:50,297 --> 00:00:54,617 Speaker 1: black T shirt. There's an asymmetry here that I don't 13 00:00:54,657 --> 00:00:55,897 Speaker 1: know that we're gonna be able to get past. 14 00:00:56,257 --> 00:00:57,897 Speaker 2: I think we're just gonna have to roll with it. 15 00:00:58,417 --> 00:01:00,457 Speaker 2: We go casual for the podcast. 16 00:01:00,497 --> 00:01:00,577 Speaker 1: Here. 17 00:01:00,617 --> 00:01:02,137 Speaker 2: You gotta remember, I'm a radio I feel like i'm 18 00:01:02,177 --> 00:01:06,097 Speaker 2: your agent right now. You're like or these days. I 19 00:01:06,097 --> 00:01:08,417 Speaker 2: feel like lawyer might be the way people are thinking 20 00:01:08,537 --> 00:01:11,257 Speaker 2: that might be better. But yeah, no, I think that 21 00:01:11,737 --> 00:01:14,297 Speaker 2: you're used to being a video TV personality. I remember 22 00:01:14,377 --> 00:01:17,737 Speaker 2: the old days, not that long ago, when as a 23 00:01:17,857 --> 00:01:21,377 Speaker 2: radio host you could just sit there and wear like 24 00:01:21,497 --> 00:01:24,177 Speaker 2: the biggest slumpiest sweatshirt you have, and nobody even knew. 25 00:01:24,257 --> 00:01:26,777 Speaker 2: Now everything is streaming, Dave, We've entered this new world 26 00:01:26,777 --> 00:01:29,857 Speaker 2: where everyone's streaming all the time, you. 27 00:01:29,817 --> 00:01:31,137 Speaker 1: Know, Buck. I don't know if you know this, but 28 00:01:31,217 --> 00:01:34,937 Speaker 1: I actually started in a broadcast sense. My first show 29 00:01:34,977 --> 00:01:38,657 Speaker 1: ever was on Sirius XM. This is maybe fifteen years ago, 30 00:01:38,737 --> 00:01:41,777 Speaker 1: quite some time ago, but yeah, I remember wandering around 31 00:01:41,777 --> 00:01:43,817 Speaker 1: the halls over at Sirius XM, and you know they 32 00:01:43,817 --> 00:01:45,577 Speaker 1: were at the time. I don't know who's left on 33 00:01:46,177 --> 00:01:48,897 Speaker 1: Sirious now, but back then a lot of big celebrities 34 00:01:48,897 --> 00:01:52,017 Speaker 1: and obviously Howard Stern and everybody else. And you'd walk 35 00:01:52,097 --> 00:01:54,617 Speaker 1: past these guys thinking that they were like these ultra 36 00:01:54,697 --> 00:01:57,817 Speaker 1: elite people, and everybody basically looked like crap and was 37 00:01:57,817 --> 00:02:00,777 Speaker 1: wearing sweatpants and holes in their shirts and everything else. 38 00:02:01,057 --> 00:02:03,857 Speaker 1: You've never seen Martha Stewart without in makeup. It ain't pretty, 39 00:02:03,977 --> 00:02:06,137 Speaker 1: tell you that much, Baron. 40 00:02:05,977 --> 00:02:07,377 Speaker 2: Oh, what'd you think of her on the cover of 41 00:02:07,417 --> 00:02:08,337 Speaker 2: a swimsuit issue? 42 00:02:08,337 --> 00:02:14,657 Speaker 1: Though I've ever been gayer, it made me a little gayer. Frankly, 43 00:02:16,537 --> 00:02:18,217 Speaker 1: I thought you looked I mean, you know, it's like 44 00:02:18,297 --> 00:02:20,137 Speaker 1: I saw it. It's like with air brushing, they can 45 00:02:20,217 --> 00:02:22,137 Speaker 1: do anything they you know what I mean, Like they 46 00:02:22,137 --> 00:02:25,897 Speaker 1: could they could literally do anything between air brushing and AI. 47 00:02:26,537 --> 00:02:28,177 Speaker 2: So this isn't I know, we could talk about like 48 00:02:28,217 --> 00:02:29,697 Speaker 2: the future of the country and all that stuff. In 49 00:02:29,737 --> 00:02:32,857 Speaker 2: a second, I think though, that we're entering an era 50 00:02:33,017 --> 00:02:43,137 Speaker 2: where between what's this between ozembic TRT anabolic steroids, filters 51 00:02:43,817 --> 00:02:48,177 Speaker 2: and uh, you know, photoshop. It's like, no, no, no 52 00:02:48,217 --> 00:02:50,297 Speaker 2: one really knows what anyone looks like based on their 53 00:02:50,297 --> 00:02:52,737 Speaker 2: public persona anymore, right, Like it's all there are a 54 00:02:52,817 --> 00:02:55,977 Speaker 2: million ways to put your hand on the scale one 55 00:02:55,977 --> 00:02:56,617 Speaker 2: way or another. 56 00:02:57,217 --> 00:02:59,777 Speaker 1: Dude. Not only that that's all the visual stuff, but 57 00:02:59,857 --> 00:03:01,817 Speaker 1: you know with AI now and everything else they can 58 00:03:01,857 --> 00:03:04,777 Speaker 1: do with your voice and deep fakes. It's like we 59 00:03:04,897 --> 00:03:07,377 Speaker 1: are really I mean joking aside, We are like sort 60 00:03:07,417 --> 00:03:10,177 Speaker 1: of at the uncanny valley right now where we do 61 00:03:10,257 --> 00:03:13,617 Speaker 1: not know in three years it would be very possible 62 00:03:13,657 --> 00:03:15,417 Speaker 1: for them to put up The President of the United 63 00:03:15,457 --> 00:03:18,897 Speaker 1: States has announced that we have just knew China and 64 00:03:18,977 --> 00:03:20,977 Speaker 1: how many people will fall for it for and will 65 00:03:20,977 --> 00:03:22,977 Speaker 1: have every reason to fall for it because it will 66 00:03:22,977 --> 00:03:25,657 Speaker 1: look exactly right it'll look like it's at the Rose Garden, 67 00:03:25,697 --> 00:03:29,417 Speaker 1: it'll sound like the president and everything else. So it's 68 00:03:29,457 --> 00:03:30,337 Speaker 1: going to be a big mess. 69 00:03:30,857 --> 00:03:33,737 Speaker 2: So here's what I see coming, Dave in the I 70 00:03:33,737 --> 00:03:35,737 Speaker 2: think in the twenty twenty four election cycle, this is 71 00:03:35,737 --> 00:03:40,697 Speaker 2: even likely to happen, and it's it doesn't even have 72 00:03:40,817 --> 00:03:46,177 Speaker 2: to be something that really confuses people at the top 73 00:03:46,297 --> 00:03:48,657 Speaker 2: level down right. So it's not like CNN and the 74 00:03:48,657 --> 00:03:50,257 Speaker 2: New York Times have to say, oh, well, do we 75 00:03:50,297 --> 00:03:53,537 Speaker 2: think this video is real. They can even put out there, 76 00:03:53,897 --> 00:03:58,057 Speaker 2: oh this is unverified or whatever, but there'll still be 77 00:03:58,137 --> 00:04:01,217 Speaker 2: a lot of people with these AI deep fakes who 78 00:04:01,297 --> 00:04:03,577 Speaker 2: believe it and vote on it. I mean, I think 79 00:04:03,577 --> 00:04:07,657 Speaker 2: it was thirty percent of Democrats as of the Biden 80 00:04:07,657 --> 00:04:10,657 Speaker 2: administration still believe Russia collusion happened, and at one point 81 00:04:10,697 --> 00:04:13,777 Speaker 2: it was like seventy percent, right, So if you see 82 00:04:13,777 --> 00:04:15,897 Speaker 2: a video of something, even if it could be fake, 83 00:04:16,177 --> 00:04:17,897 Speaker 2: you'll believe whatever you want to believe at this point, 84 00:04:17,897 --> 00:04:18,537 Speaker 2: at least for a lot. 85 00:04:18,497 --> 00:04:20,537 Speaker 1: Of You know, that's a great point if you think 86 00:04:20,537 --> 00:04:22,697 Speaker 1: about all of the lies over the last couple of years, 87 00:04:22,777 --> 00:04:25,977 Speaker 1: so you know, Russiagate, all of the COVID lies, Jesse Smilette, 88 00:04:25,977 --> 00:04:29,257 Speaker 1: Brett Kavanaugh as a serial rapist, Kyle Rittenhouse is a 89 00:04:29,257 --> 00:04:32,577 Speaker 1: white supremacist. The Covington kids are all racists. Like if 90 00:04:32,617 --> 00:04:34,857 Speaker 1: you just go through all the lives, that's all without 91 00:04:34,897 --> 00:04:37,897 Speaker 1: deep fakes and AI. So you're right once we now 92 00:04:37,937 --> 00:04:39,817 Speaker 1: add this into the mix, if you think of how 93 00:04:39,817 --> 00:04:43,577 Speaker 1: many people you know are basically NPC's non playable characters 94 00:04:43,577 --> 00:04:46,217 Speaker 1: who just believe whatever it is that the machine spits 95 00:04:46,257 --> 00:04:48,937 Speaker 1: at them at any given day. Oh man, I was. 96 00:04:48,937 --> 00:04:51,057 Speaker 1: I was having a very hopeful day till we started this, 97 00:04:51,137 --> 00:04:53,097 Speaker 1: and now I've realized we're in a lot of trouble. 98 00:04:53,097 --> 00:04:54,897 Speaker 1: I thought we were turning the corner and freedom was 99 00:04:54,937 --> 00:04:55,497 Speaker 1: about to win. 100 00:04:56,577 --> 00:04:59,177 Speaker 2: I always think that until I wake up in the 101 00:04:59,217 --> 00:05:01,417 Speaker 2: morning and I look at what's going on all over 102 00:05:01,457 --> 00:05:04,377 Speaker 2: the interwebs. Dave, Yeah, waking up is terrible, And then 103 00:05:04,417 --> 00:05:06,737 Speaker 2: it feels pretty sad to me. Yeah, No, I understand. 104 00:05:06,777 --> 00:05:08,977 Speaker 2: It's the old. The older I get, the more I appreciate, 105 00:05:09,777 --> 00:05:12,417 Speaker 2: you know, alternate reality dreams that we can all have. 106 00:05:12,537 --> 00:05:13,737 Speaker 2: And now I guess in. 107 00:05:13,857 --> 00:05:16,137 Speaker 1: Florida, Man, you live in Florida, It's gonna be just 108 00:05:16,257 --> 00:05:19,137 Speaker 1: fine here. All hell is gonna be breaking loose everywhere 109 00:05:19,137 --> 00:05:20,937 Speaker 1: else and we'll be it'll be the end. I mean, 110 00:05:21,017 --> 00:05:23,737 Speaker 1: I accept that Florida will be the last place standing, 111 00:05:23,937 --> 00:05:25,537 Speaker 1: and it could be a little messy at the end. 112 00:05:25,817 --> 00:05:28,377 Speaker 1: But you've been to my place, like we could hang out. 113 00:05:28,377 --> 00:05:30,097 Speaker 1: I got a basketball court, whatever you need. 114 00:05:30,377 --> 00:05:32,137 Speaker 2: It is nice. I do you're familiar with. 115 00:05:33,817 --> 00:05:36,577 Speaker 1: By the way, what was that. I have a decent 116 00:05:36,617 --> 00:05:39,337 Speaker 1: sized fence. I think it's about six foot around the perimeter, 117 00:05:39,457 --> 00:05:40,097 Speaker 1: so very nice. 118 00:05:40,297 --> 00:05:41,817 Speaker 2: So I have a lot of weapons. So if the 119 00:05:41,897 --> 00:05:45,337 Speaker 2: zombie apocalypse happens, I'll show up. You know what I mean, 120 00:05:45,457 --> 00:05:48,457 Speaker 2: you you and and and the husband. You guys can 121 00:05:48,617 --> 00:05:51,177 Speaker 2: can give me a safe refuge and I'll keep the 122 00:05:51,257 --> 00:05:52,417 Speaker 2: zombies off your property. 123 00:05:52,817 --> 00:05:55,097 Speaker 1: Yow. We'll get you up top with the sniper rifle. 124 00:05:55,137 --> 00:05:57,137 Speaker 1: I've got a full house generator. We got a lot 125 00:05:57,137 --> 00:05:59,057 Speaker 1: of baby food here. You're good, You're good. 126 00:05:59,217 --> 00:06:01,897 Speaker 2: I'll tell you why The Walking Dead was such an 127 00:06:02,377 --> 00:06:07,137 Speaker 2: incredibly popular show because every Second Amendment enthusiast out there 128 00:06:07,697 --> 00:06:11,697 Speaker 2: they're fond of sol is that in the zombie apocalypse 129 00:06:11,937 --> 00:06:14,297 Speaker 2: they get to be like the one guy in the 130 00:06:14,617 --> 00:06:19,457 Speaker 2: in the band of survivors who's got that that ar fifteen, 131 00:06:19,617 --> 00:06:22,177 Speaker 2: Like ready to go with their EO tech sited in 132 00:06:22,257 --> 00:06:24,977 Speaker 2: and they're just they're just popping zombies left and right, 133 00:06:25,017 --> 00:06:26,937 Speaker 2: like there's nothing more exciting than that. 134 00:06:27,857 --> 00:06:29,937 Speaker 1: Unless you're the chick with the two big knives with 135 00:06:29,977 --> 00:06:34,217 Speaker 1: the dreadlocks, and she kept them on a leash. 136 00:06:33,017 --> 00:06:36,457 Speaker 2: Remember she had a katana sword, I believe, Yeah, she was. 137 00:06:36,417 --> 00:06:38,337 Speaker 1: Something else that one. Whatever happened to her. 138 00:06:38,337 --> 00:06:39,577 Speaker 2: So you watch that seriously? 139 00:06:39,657 --> 00:06:42,457 Speaker 1: I would not. I watched. I watched the first four 140 00:06:42,537 --> 00:06:44,377 Speaker 1: or five season then and then actually I know the 141 00:06:44,417 --> 00:06:46,577 Speaker 1: exact episode that I stopped watching. I think it was 142 00:06:46,617 --> 00:06:49,337 Speaker 1: the I think it was season five episode one. Remember 143 00:06:49,537 --> 00:06:52,937 Speaker 1: when they had that very graphic thing of all of 144 00:06:52,977 --> 00:06:54,537 Speaker 1: them kind of sitting in a circle and the guy 145 00:06:54,577 --> 00:06:56,577 Speaker 1: starts clubbing them with the baseball bat break. 146 00:06:56,377 --> 00:06:58,057 Speaker 2: And I couldn't. I stopped after that. 147 00:06:58,217 --> 00:07:01,097 Speaker 1: Yeah, I literally stopped halfway through that episode. I said, 148 00:07:01,137 --> 00:07:03,337 Speaker 1: you know what, I love zombie movies. I love sci fi, 149 00:07:03,377 --> 00:07:05,897 Speaker 1: I love dystopia, I love murder and Mayhem. And I 150 00:07:05,977 --> 00:07:08,377 Speaker 1: was just like, we're just putting this one down now. 151 00:07:08,097 --> 00:07:11,857 Speaker 2: And I thought she a level of nihilism. I got 152 00:07:11,857 --> 00:07:14,377 Speaker 2: pretty close. I'll be honest, there are sometimes I thought 153 00:07:14,457 --> 00:07:16,897 Speaker 2: the first two seasons of Game of Thrones were like 154 00:07:17,017 --> 00:07:19,017 Speaker 2: some of the best TV I had seen at that 155 00:07:19,137 --> 00:07:22,257 Speaker 2: time ever, But there were different points in that series 156 00:07:22,297 --> 00:07:25,217 Speaker 2: too where it felt to me like is this just 157 00:07:25,337 --> 00:07:28,937 Speaker 2: nihilistic sadism for its own sake? Like what really is 158 00:07:28,977 --> 00:07:31,537 Speaker 2: the point here? And then the final season or two 159 00:07:31,737 --> 00:07:33,937 Speaker 2: or final season, I guess I think everyone kind of 160 00:07:34,257 --> 00:07:36,257 Speaker 2: agreed with David, we have to save the country. So 161 00:07:36,337 --> 00:07:37,497 Speaker 2: as much as I want to talk to you about 162 00:07:37,497 --> 00:07:39,057 Speaker 2: all the fun things out there, we can talk about war. 163 00:07:39,257 --> 00:07:42,657 Speaker 1: All right, Let's do Game of Thrones reality version. Trump DeSantis? 164 00:07:42,697 --> 00:07:43,457 Speaker 1: What's gonna happen. 165 00:07:44,337 --> 00:07:47,177 Speaker 2: Let's use that as a teaser because I've got a 166 00:07:47,217 --> 00:07:49,257 Speaker 2: wonderful sponsor that I have to talk about for one 167 00:07:49,257 --> 00:07:51,057 Speaker 2: second here, David, So just give me one second. Well cut, 168 00:07:51,057 --> 00:07:51,697 Speaker 2: Trump DeSantis. 169 00:07:51,777 --> 00:07:52,777 Speaker 1: I'll have a sip of coffee. 170 00:07:53,257 --> 00:07:55,537 Speaker 2: I'm gonna let make sure everyone knows your Twitter handle 171 00:07:55,617 --> 00:07:57,297 Speaker 2: so they can yell at you for what you're going 172 00:07:57,337 --> 00:08:00,217 Speaker 2: to say about Trump DeSantis. But we had our friend 173 00:08:00,257 --> 00:08:02,457 Speaker 2: Pete hegseth on her in the week and he, I 174 00:08:02,457 --> 00:08:04,577 Speaker 2: mean he might be Trumps secretary of Defense, you know 175 00:08:04,577 --> 00:08:08,177 Speaker 2: what I mean? So like it's we're getting it coming 176 00:08:08,257 --> 00:08:11,017 Speaker 2: from all different sides here the equation. All right, we'll 177 00:08:11,017 --> 00:08:13,937 Speaker 2: come back to this in a second. 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You know what it's like anytime, even 201 00:09:14,737 --> 00:09:17,537 Speaker 2: if you've only written one page, the thought of losing 202 00:09:17,537 --> 00:09:21,697 Speaker 2: that page just gives you absolute panic attacks, right, You're like. 203 00:09:22,057 --> 00:09:24,097 Speaker 1: Especially on page one, that's a key to the whole thing. 204 00:09:24,537 --> 00:09:27,897 Speaker 2: You're like, I'm my life is just disappearing because the computer, 205 00:09:28,577 --> 00:09:30,817 Speaker 2: you know, spit out my page the wrong way or something. 206 00:09:31,017 --> 00:09:35,617 Speaker 2: All right, So Trump, DeSantis, let it rid, my friend, 207 00:09:35,857 --> 00:09:38,817 Speaker 2: we tell everybody where you stand and why. 208 00:09:39,537 --> 00:09:42,457 Speaker 1: Okay, look, here we go. I did not vote for 209 00:09:42,497 --> 00:09:44,417 Speaker 1: Trump the first time. I did not know who I 210 00:09:44,497 --> 00:09:46,177 Speaker 1: was going to vote for as I went to the 211 00:09:46,217 --> 00:09:50,657 Speaker 1: ballot box on that November in twenty fifteen. I hated Hillary. 212 00:09:50,937 --> 00:09:53,297 Speaker 1: I was, I wasn't there yet on Trump. I ended 213 00:09:53,377 --> 00:09:55,737 Speaker 1: up voting for Gary Johnson because I had had him 214 00:09:55,737 --> 00:09:58,297 Speaker 1: on the show. He liked Weed. I was like, eh, all. 215 00:09:58,257 --> 00:10:00,057 Speaker 2: Right, now I know why you have a sense of 216 00:10:00,097 --> 00:10:03,617 Speaker 2: humor about yourself. You voted for Gary Johnson for God's sake. Anyway, 217 00:10:03,697 --> 00:10:04,217 Speaker 2: he was hard. 218 00:10:04,297 --> 00:10:06,417 Speaker 1: He was a hard you know, I'm mostly libertarian. I 219 00:10:06,417 --> 00:10:08,537 Speaker 1: know you have a lot of libertarian beliefs too, but 220 00:10:08,657 --> 00:10:11,057 Speaker 1: he was a horrible libertary candidate. I mean, the guy 221 00:10:11,177 --> 00:10:14,257 Speaker 1: just he was Aleppo was the highlight of the campaign. Well, 222 00:10:14,337 --> 00:10:16,657 Speaker 1: let's not get lost on Gary Johnson. Point is. I 223 00:10:16,697 --> 00:10:19,257 Speaker 1: did not vote for Trump, however, and you can find 224 00:10:19,297 --> 00:10:22,537 Speaker 1: this video on YouTube or wherever else. The day after 225 00:10:22,657 --> 00:10:25,417 Speaker 1: Trump was inaugurated, I put out a video. I didn't 226 00:10:25,417 --> 00:10:27,097 Speaker 1: even have a studio yet because I had just moved 227 00:10:27,097 --> 00:10:28,977 Speaker 1: into a new home, so I did a video off 228 00:10:29,017 --> 00:10:32,097 Speaker 1: my phone in my backyard construction in the background saying, look, 229 00:10:32,177 --> 00:10:34,537 Speaker 1: Trump's the president now, and I think we got to 230 00:10:34,537 --> 00:10:36,617 Speaker 1: give this guy a chance, because what if he doesn't 231 00:10:36,617 --> 00:10:39,537 Speaker 1: get us into wars? What if the economy's doing well? 232 00:10:39,977 --> 00:10:41,857 Speaker 1: And I laid out a series of other what ifs 233 00:10:41,897 --> 00:10:44,817 Speaker 1: that might be positive, and he basically nailed all of 234 00:10:44,817 --> 00:10:49,057 Speaker 1: those things until COVID. I obviously supported him big time 235 00:10:49,137 --> 00:10:51,577 Speaker 1: the second time around. I was at rallies in LA 236 00:10:51,777 --> 00:10:54,337 Speaker 1: all the time. The Trump rallies loved every second of it. 237 00:10:54,617 --> 00:10:57,137 Speaker 1: I've interviewed Trump, I've been to mar A Lago. I'm 238 00:10:57,137 --> 00:11:00,097 Speaker 1: friends with several of the kids. They're a good family, 239 00:11:00,177 --> 00:11:02,777 Speaker 1: He was a good president. Did he screw up some stuff. 240 00:11:02,817 --> 00:11:05,657 Speaker 1: The wall didn't get done, he bungled COVID, and you know, 241 00:11:05,737 --> 00:11:09,257 Speaker 1: hindsight's twenty twenty and all that. However, all of that 242 00:11:09,377 --> 00:11:12,337 Speaker 1: being said, that does not mean all the good parts 243 00:11:12,337 --> 00:11:15,057 Speaker 1: of him. He read pilled everybody, he woke us up 244 00:11:15,057 --> 00:11:17,497 Speaker 1: to CNN, his fake news in the failing New York Times, 245 00:11:17,537 --> 00:11:20,377 Speaker 1: all the stuff, right, But that does not mean he 246 00:11:20,377 --> 00:11:23,417 Speaker 1: should be king forever. And it is fairly obvious to 247 00:11:23,417 --> 00:11:25,497 Speaker 1: me as a New Floridian in the past year and 248 00:11:25,537 --> 00:11:27,977 Speaker 1: a half. And I think you're how long are you 249 00:11:28,177 --> 00:11:29,737 Speaker 1: even less than that? Right? Yeah? 250 00:11:29,897 --> 00:11:31,897 Speaker 2: Like gosh, I came hi to the math call it 251 00:11:31,937 --> 00:11:32,577 Speaker 2: eight months? 252 00:11:32,777 --> 00:11:35,457 Speaker 1: Yeah right, you're not even a year. But you've seen 253 00:11:35,577 --> 00:11:38,777 Speaker 1: how incredibly well run this state is, and it's in 254 00:11:38,897 --> 00:11:41,617 Speaker 1: large part because of Ron de Santis. Ron de Santis 255 00:11:41,617 --> 00:11:45,897 Speaker 1: created a bastion of freedom in the craziest time in 256 00:11:45,937 --> 00:11:49,297 Speaker 1: modern American history. Not only did the COVID stuff right, 257 00:11:49,937 --> 00:11:53,177 Speaker 1: but has done virtually everything right. And not only that, 258 00:11:53,257 --> 00:11:55,937 Speaker 1: he did everything right, every single thing. And I would 259 00:11:55,977 --> 00:11:58,857 Speaker 1: welcome you or anyone watching this to find the flaw 260 00:11:58,897 --> 00:12:01,377 Speaker 1: on this. What has he set out to do that 261 00:12:01,457 --> 00:12:04,017 Speaker 1: he has not accomplished since he has been governor. He 262 00:12:04,137 --> 00:12:06,977 Speaker 1: got everything done he has tried to get done. He 263 00:12:07,017 --> 00:12:10,017 Speaker 1: did the Disney thing. We've gotten wokeness out of school. 264 00:12:10,537 --> 00:12:13,857 Speaker 1: He's fighting everybody across the board. We have a surplus 265 00:12:13,857 --> 00:12:18,017 Speaker 1: in Florida. We get one point three million people have 266 00:12:18,097 --> 00:12:20,537 Speaker 1: moved here in less than three years, twelve hundred people 267 00:12:20,537 --> 00:12:23,897 Speaker 1: a day. Our infrastructure, which is stretched because of our success, 268 00:12:24,297 --> 00:12:27,577 Speaker 1: is building super fast. He's cutting regulation related to building. 269 00:12:27,777 --> 00:12:30,897 Speaker 1: I mean, everything is working here, and that is the 270 00:12:30,897 --> 00:12:33,497 Speaker 1: blueprint that I think has to be exported to America. 271 00:12:33,537 --> 00:12:37,257 Speaker 1: On top of the fact that Trump, whether you like 272 00:12:37,337 --> 00:12:39,577 Speaker 1: Trump or not, what was the main thing that all 273 00:12:39,737 --> 00:12:41,537 Speaker 1: the people on the fence, You know, there's not many 274 00:12:41,577 --> 00:12:44,177 Speaker 1: people in America that can move. You have your Republicans, 275 00:12:44,177 --> 00:12:46,737 Speaker 1: you have your Democrats. And then there's this question. I 276 00:12:46,777 --> 00:12:48,457 Speaker 1: don't know what it is. It's a twenty percent, is 277 00:12:48,497 --> 00:12:51,417 Speaker 1: a ten percent of this middle ground people that those 278 00:12:51,457 --> 00:12:53,457 Speaker 1: are the ones that can move? Right? Well, what did 279 00:12:53,497 --> 00:12:55,817 Speaker 1: most of those people say about Trump? They were like, well, 280 00:12:55,897 --> 00:12:57,937 Speaker 1: you know, I like the policy, I just don't like 281 00:12:58,057 --> 00:12:59,817 Speaker 1: the grab them by the pussy, and I don't like 282 00:12:59,857 --> 00:13:02,897 Speaker 1: the tweets blah, blah blah. Well, here you have with DeSantis, 283 00:13:03,217 --> 00:13:06,217 Speaker 1: a forty four year old he's younger than me, forty 284 00:13:06,257 --> 00:13:09,897 Speaker 1: four year old, father of three, with a great wife, 285 00:13:09,897 --> 00:13:13,457 Speaker 1: and Casey DeSantis good man. There's no reason to believe 286 00:13:13,457 --> 00:13:16,057 Speaker 1: they're going to find any crazy skeletons in his closet. 287 00:13:16,097 --> 00:13:19,377 Speaker 1: He believes in this country there aren't going to be scandals. 288 00:13:19,457 --> 00:13:22,497 Speaker 1: I think he's given us everything that we could want 289 00:13:22,537 --> 00:13:25,617 Speaker 1: out of a politician. I don't worship politicians at all 290 00:13:25,777 --> 00:13:28,417 Speaker 1: at all, and they will always let you down. But 291 00:13:28,577 --> 00:13:31,177 Speaker 1: every now and again, especially in a crazy time like 292 00:13:31,217 --> 00:13:33,137 Speaker 1: we've been in in these last four years or whatever 293 00:13:33,177 --> 00:13:36,577 Speaker 1: you want to say, somebody shows up. Somebody shows up 294 00:13:36,617 --> 00:13:39,217 Speaker 1: and is ready to do it. And I think when 295 00:13:39,217 --> 00:13:41,057 Speaker 1: that person shows up, you got to back them. And 296 00:13:41,057 --> 00:13:43,017 Speaker 1: it's just very clear. And just one other thing on this. 297 00:13:43,537 --> 00:13:45,337 Speaker 1: That's why I've been hitting Trump the way I have, 298 00:13:45,537 --> 00:13:47,417 Speaker 1: because there is a case to be made for Trump. 299 00:13:47,497 --> 00:13:50,217 Speaker 1: The case to be made for Trump is, Hey, before COVID, 300 00:13:50,417 --> 00:13:52,737 Speaker 1: I was rolling man, and we didn't get into wars, 301 00:13:52,777 --> 00:13:55,617 Speaker 1: and Russia wasn't in Ukraine and everything else, lowest all 302 00:13:55,617 --> 00:13:58,617 Speaker 1: time black unemployment, blah blah blah. But instead of making 303 00:13:58,657 --> 00:14:03,057 Speaker 1: that case. Trump every day basically for the last three months, 304 00:14:03,057 --> 00:14:06,577 Speaker 1: has woke up, got onto truth social and lied about 305 00:14:06,617 --> 00:14:10,577 Speaker 1: DeSantis and or Florida. The attacks make no sense. He's 306 00:14:10,577 --> 00:14:13,137 Speaker 1: not a rhino. If Ron DeSantis is a rhino, then 307 00:14:13,177 --> 00:14:16,417 Speaker 1: everyone's a rhino because he's done everything a conservative could 308 00:14:16,417 --> 00:14:18,977 Speaker 1: have ever wanted. Some things that are more conservative than 309 00:14:19,217 --> 00:14:23,017 Speaker 1: I would even want. The six week abortion thing, for example. 310 00:14:23,497 --> 00:14:25,697 Speaker 1: I know that's I'm not in line with most conservatives 311 00:14:25,737 --> 00:14:27,257 Speaker 1: on that. I'm just showing you that I have some 312 00:14:27,297 --> 00:14:30,457 Speaker 1: difference of opinion with the guy. But you know, Trump 313 00:14:30,537 --> 00:14:33,697 Speaker 1: lying about Florida, pretending New York was better on COVID, 314 00:14:34,657 --> 00:14:35,977 Speaker 1: I mean, there's some stuff that's not even that I 315 00:14:35,977 --> 00:14:37,497 Speaker 1: don't even want to repeat some of the things that 316 00:14:37,537 --> 00:14:40,537 Speaker 1: he's said about DeSantis. So that's been why I've had 317 00:14:40,577 --> 00:14:42,417 Speaker 1: to push back on him the way that I have. 318 00:14:42,977 --> 00:14:44,937 Speaker 2: But I will say this, yeah, go ahead, go ahead, 319 00:14:44,937 --> 00:14:46,577 Speaker 2: and then I got a question, just say well. 320 00:14:46,537 --> 00:14:49,817 Speaker 1: No, no, no, one last thing. Although I obviously want DeSantis 321 00:14:49,817 --> 00:14:51,497 Speaker 1: to be president, and I think he could be a 322 00:14:51,577 --> 00:14:55,777 Speaker 1: Reagan esque transformative president, getting us through woke, showing us 323 00:14:55,777 --> 00:14:58,177 Speaker 1: how to deal with the mainstream media, good family man 324 00:14:58,177 --> 00:14:59,897 Speaker 1: in the White House. I think it's all great. If 325 00:14:59,937 --> 00:15:03,097 Speaker 1: this thing ends in a year and a half and 326 00:15:03,137 --> 00:15:05,817 Speaker 1: it's now it's January twenty five and Donald Trump is 327 00:15:05,817 --> 00:15:08,617 Speaker 1: the president and Ron DeSantis is my governor, I will 328 00:15:08,617 --> 00:15:11,177 Speaker 1: be fine with that, would I do not is Joe 329 00:15:11,177 --> 00:15:14,057 Speaker 1: Biden or Kamala Harris or god forbid, Gavin Newsom. 330 00:15:14,377 --> 00:15:17,457 Speaker 2: So that's a that's a perfect transition point, Dave, because 331 00:15:17,457 --> 00:15:19,057 Speaker 2: when you come back, I just want to ask you. 332 00:15:19,337 --> 00:15:23,737 Speaker 2: Let's assume for a second that I was gonna say Biden, 333 00:15:23,777 --> 00:15:28,297 Speaker 2: pardon me, DeSantis wins the primary and is up against 334 00:15:28,297 --> 00:15:29,817 Speaker 2: Biden in the general election. 335 00:15:29,937 --> 00:15:33,097 Speaker 1: He will not be up against Biden. They will take there. 336 00:15:32,977 --> 00:15:36,257 Speaker 2: Is no okay, all right, let's come back to that, 337 00:15:36,297 --> 00:15:39,017 Speaker 2: because I was going to say people on the a 338 00:15:39,017 --> 00:15:40,897 Speaker 2: lot of the Trump voters that I speak to say, 339 00:15:41,417 --> 00:15:43,617 Speaker 2: just Sant just can't win, can't win against can't win 340 00:15:43,617 --> 00:15:46,217 Speaker 2: a national level election. He's a governor, he's not a president. Right, 341 00:15:46,257 --> 00:15:48,257 Speaker 2: That's what they say. We can get to that, but 342 00:15:48,337 --> 00:15:49,977 Speaker 2: first I want to get to your Biden thing. 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You get that thirty five percent off 362 00:16:40,177 --> 00:16:42,177 Speaker 2: when you use my name Buck that's b U c 363 00:16:42,377 --> 00:16:45,737 Speaker 2: K in the purchase process. A. We have two fantastic 364 00:16:45,737 --> 00:16:47,777 Speaker 2: things to get to right now. With mister Dave Ruben 365 00:16:47,857 --> 00:16:53,297 Speaker 2: of the Ruben Report. First off, Joe Biden's not gonna 366 00:16:53,297 --> 00:16:55,097 Speaker 2: be You're on the Bill O'Reilly side of this. I 367 00:16:55,097 --> 00:16:56,377 Speaker 2: want to tell you, Bill and I have had a 368 00:16:56,377 --> 00:16:58,177 Speaker 2: few We've had a few back and forths on the 369 00:16:58,217 --> 00:17:00,297 Speaker 2: radio over this one. I say it's gonna be Biden. 370 00:17:00,337 --> 00:17:03,297 Speaker 2: They don't care. They would roll Biden out with a 371 00:17:03,337 --> 00:17:07,217 Speaker 2: blanket across his knees, drooling and feeding a apple sauce, 372 00:17:07,257 --> 00:17:09,337 Speaker 2: and they'll s this is the Democrat nominee because they 373 00:17:09,377 --> 00:17:11,937 Speaker 2: just you know, nothing matter, they don't care. You say no, 374 00:17:12,177 --> 00:17:14,097 Speaker 2: tell me, why, tell me why in what happens? 375 00:17:14,617 --> 00:17:17,057 Speaker 1: Well, first off, I probably could make both your arguments, 376 00:17:17,097 --> 00:17:19,017 Speaker 1: because on one hand, I can make your argument that, 377 00:17:19,137 --> 00:17:21,377 Speaker 1: no matter how bad it is with Biden, whether he 378 00:17:21,457 --> 00:17:25,577 Speaker 1: has completely zombified and he's drooling and all the stuff, 379 00:17:25,937 --> 00:17:30,017 Speaker 1: that so many people are so bamboozled by mainstream media 380 00:17:30,017 --> 00:17:31,537 Speaker 1: and everything else, that they could roll him out there 381 00:17:31,577 --> 00:17:33,817 Speaker 1: as a vegetable and people would still say that he 382 00:17:33,857 --> 00:17:37,097 Speaker 1: won the debate. So I can make that argument. The 383 00:17:37,177 --> 00:17:39,777 Speaker 1: other argument, I haven't heard Bill make it, but my 384 00:17:39,977 --> 00:17:43,177 Speaker 1: argument would be that the juxtaposition good word. That's a 385 00:17:43,177 --> 00:17:48,177 Speaker 1: good word for you, Buck. The juxtaposition of having Ron DeSantis, 386 00:17:48,177 --> 00:17:51,497 Speaker 1: forty four years old, in complete command of all of 387 00:17:51,537 --> 00:17:54,857 Speaker 1: the issues. You know, DeSantis, We've been to events together. 388 00:17:54,977 --> 00:17:59,257 Speaker 1: This guy freaking remembers everything. He remembers where he was 389 00:17:59,417 --> 00:18:02,457 Speaker 1: for every vote, he remembers the numbers of the votes, 390 00:18:02,497 --> 00:18:05,177 Speaker 1: what people were wearing, blah blah blah. He has complete 391 00:18:05,217 --> 00:18:08,457 Speaker 1: command of the ideas and America's history and everything else. 392 00:18:08,857 --> 00:18:12,777 Speaker 1: The juxtaposition of versus a bumbling, old, buffoonish Biden. And 393 00:18:12,777 --> 00:18:14,337 Speaker 1: also you got to keep in mind again this is 394 00:18:14,417 --> 00:18:16,257 Speaker 1: the debates will be about a year from now, a 395 00:18:16,257 --> 00:18:19,097 Speaker 1: little more than a year from now. The level that 396 00:18:19,137 --> 00:18:21,577 Speaker 1: he could still fall from where he's at now, which 397 00:18:21,617 --> 00:18:25,177 Speaker 1: ain't good, is could be quite significant. I just don't 398 00:18:25,217 --> 00:18:27,377 Speaker 1: think they can risk putting that on stage. And the 399 00:18:27,377 --> 00:18:29,537 Speaker 1: fact that we're seeing so much out of Gavin Newsom 400 00:18:29,617 --> 00:18:32,337 Speaker 1: right now. And remember Gavin Newsom. Remember a couple of 401 00:18:32,337 --> 00:18:35,057 Speaker 1: months ago, Biden took an international trip and then Gavin 402 00:18:35,097 --> 00:18:38,057 Speaker 1: Newsom magically appeared at the White House. That felt like 403 00:18:38,097 --> 00:18:40,177 Speaker 1: a low grade coup to me, there is just no 404 00:18:40,417 --> 00:18:43,617 Speaker 1: doubt you have. The Democrats are so freaking corrupt. Look, 405 00:18:43,657 --> 00:18:46,697 Speaker 1: the Republicans suck. They screw us up all the time. 406 00:18:46,737 --> 00:18:48,617 Speaker 1: They never do anything right once you give them a 407 00:18:48,697 --> 00:18:51,177 Speaker 1: chance to do it. But I don't think they're downright evil. 408 00:18:51,217 --> 00:18:53,977 Speaker 1: The Democrats are so evil. Just ask Bernie Sanders what 409 00:18:53,977 --> 00:18:56,497 Speaker 1: they did to him last time. Just asked Tulsey Gabbard 410 00:18:56,537 --> 00:18:58,417 Speaker 1: when she was the last one going against Biden, and 411 00:18:58,497 --> 00:19:00,857 Speaker 1: Hillary said that she was a Russian asset, a woman 412 00:19:00,897 --> 00:19:03,657 Speaker 1: who's in our military right now, literally right this moment, 413 00:19:04,017 --> 00:19:07,777 Speaker 1: leading a brigade doing training. These people are so corrupt 414 00:19:07,777 --> 00:19:10,537 Speaker 1: that there is no doubt in my mind that if 415 00:19:10,577 --> 00:19:13,857 Speaker 1: they have to figure out a way to get rid 416 00:19:13,897 --> 00:19:15,777 Speaker 1: of Biden. I mean, that's just step one. If you 417 00:19:15,777 --> 00:19:17,657 Speaker 1: get rid of Biden, now you have Kamala. They know 418 00:19:17,737 --> 00:19:20,017 Speaker 1: they can't run Kamala. So now you got to figure 419 00:19:20,017 --> 00:19:21,857 Speaker 1: out a way to get a man who I think 420 00:19:21,897 --> 00:19:25,377 Speaker 1: is genuinely a lizard person from another planet, Gavin Newsom, 421 00:19:25,977 --> 00:19:28,817 Speaker 1: soulless liver, lizard person. You gotta get him in. So 422 00:19:28,897 --> 00:19:31,857 Speaker 1: the machinations and trickery, I just don't put anything by them. 423 00:19:32,097 --> 00:19:32,617 Speaker 1: How about that. 424 00:19:34,337 --> 00:19:38,537 Speaker 2: I think that's a fair place to be. I think 425 00:19:38,537 --> 00:19:42,057 Speaker 2: it's interesting. Do you agree with my co host Clay 426 00:19:42,617 --> 00:19:45,817 Speaker 2: that even though you know he's destroying the state of California. 427 00:19:46,737 --> 00:19:50,177 Speaker 2: You find Gavin Newsom personally likable. This was a big 428 00:19:50,417 --> 00:19:51,897 Speaker 2: This is a big back and forth that Clay and 429 00:19:51,977 --> 00:19:52,297 Speaker 2: I had. 430 00:19:52,777 --> 00:19:53,737 Speaker 1: Thinks he's likable. 431 00:19:54,057 --> 00:19:55,737 Speaker 2: Yeah, very he is. 432 00:19:55,937 --> 00:19:59,657 Speaker 1: He's I'm shocked. I'm shocked. Uh for I'll have to 433 00:20:00,177 --> 00:20:00,577 Speaker 1: discuss this. 434 00:20:00,617 --> 00:20:02,257 Speaker 2: Yeah, you and Clay should fight this one out, because 435 00:20:02,297 --> 00:20:04,977 Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's slick. I wouldn't. 436 00:20:04,977 --> 00:20:05,497 Speaker 1: I would never. 437 00:20:05,697 --> 00:20:08,377 Speaker 2: I would never say. I did call him evil Keanu 438 00:20:08,417 --> 00:20:10,697 Speaker 2: Reeves once, because that's kind of what becomes across, like 439 00:20:10,777 --> 00:20:12,897 Speaker 2: see that that one works. Clay likes that one too, 440 00:20:13,857 --> 00:20:17,657 Speaker 2: But I think that people see there's just something so 441 00:20:18,217 --> 00:20:23,457 Speaker 2: like unctuous, so just is like it's so sleazy with gay. 442 00:20:23,657 --> 00:20:25,857 Speaker 1: He's the he's the he's the bad guy in a 443 00:20:25,857 --> 00:20:27,977 Speaker 1: Disney movie, or he's the bad guy in an eighties 444 00:20:28,017 --> 00:20:30,297 Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger movie that's supposed to be the good guy the 445 00:20:30,297 --> 00:20:32,017 Speaker 1: whole time and turns out to be the bad guy. 446 00:20:32,697 --> 00:20:33,937 Speaker 1: He's so fabricous. 447 00:20:33,937 --> 00:20:37,017 Speaker 2: Bill Pax Aliens remember that one, Bill packs and Bill 448 00:20:37,057 --> 00:20:39,257 Speaker 2: Pax is a good guy. No, No, Paul Reiser, he's 449 00:20:39,257 --> 00:20:41,777 Speaker 2: Paul Reiser and Aliens. There we go, Paul Riser and Aliens. 450 00:20:41,817 --> 00:20:44,137 Speaker 1: He works for the company, right, and then you find 451 00:20:44,137 --> 00:20:47,857 Speaker 1: out some stuff. Yes, he is. He's deeply, deeply evil 452 00:20:48,097 --> 00:20:50,177 Speaker 1: and I really mean that and what I mean by evil. 453 00:20:50,377 --> 00:20:52,177 Speaker 1: I said this on Fox the other day and I 454 00:20:51,897 --> 00:20:53,817 Speaker 1: was I said, they said, what do you think of him? 455 00:20:53,937 --> 00:20:56,337 Speaker 1: I think I said something like he's an evil psychopath, 456 00:20:56,377 --> 00:20:58,657 Speaker 1: And it was on Fox Business. The host was like, well, 457 00:20:58,657 --> 00:21:00,617 Speaker 1: that's a bit much, and I was like, no, actually, 458 00:21:00,977 --> 00:21:04,017 Speaker 1: it's not. Everything this man touches in the public sphere 459 00:21:04,057 --> 00:21:08,137 Speaker 1: goes to U crack, whether it's San Francisco or California 460 00:21:08,137 --> 00:21:11,297 Speaker 1: at large. Somehow, though, is plump Jack Winery his forty 461 00:21:11,297 --> 00:21:13,977 Speaker 1: two acres in Sonomo over there they managed to stay 462 00:21:13,977 --> 00:21:16,537 Speaker 1: open during COVID. Somehow the guy got to French laundry 463 00:21:16,577 --> 00:21:19,137 Speaker 1: during COVID. Blah blah blah. But on the likability factor, 464 00:21:19,217 --> 00:21:22,377 Speaker 1: I really don't understand client's position on that because he 465 00:21:22,457 --> 00:21:26,097 Speaker 1: strikes me as the most inauthentic shell of a human being. 466 00:21:26,137 --> 00:21:28,617 Speaker 1: That's why I call him a lizard person. There's no 467 00:21:28,857 --> 00:21:32,137 Speaker 1: real person there. There's someone that is on an endless 468 00:21:32,257 --> 00:21:35,577 Speaker 1: quest for power. That's all there is with him. I 469 00:21:35,657 --> 00:21:38,977 Speaker 1: don't see how that's likable in any way whatsoever. I 470 00:21:38,977 --> 00:21:41,897 Speaker 1: don't See, he doesn't strike me as pleasant or decent 471 00:21:42,057 --> 00:21:44,617 Speaker 1: or fun even if I disagreed with the policies. You know, 472 00:21:44,657 --> 00:21:49,217 Speaker 1: there are people you could go, Okay, they're pleasant or likable. 473 00:21:49,257 --> 00:21:51,417 Speaker 1: I suppose I just disagree with them. But no, I 474 00:21:51,497 --> 00:21:55,937 Speaker 1: get pure stench of death evil off that guy. 475 00:21:56,777 --> 00:22:00,937 Speaker 2: Oh that's a strong opinion on Gavinussom. I want to 476 00:22:01,097 --> 00:22:03,297 Speaker 2: let's talk about the free speech battle here in a second, 477 00:22:03,377 --> 00:22:07,457 Speaker 2: but more specifically, how do you think Elon's doing with Twitter? 478 00:22:07,697 --> 00:22:09,937 Speaker 2: So I know you spent some time out there, and 479 00:22:10,057 --> 00:22:12,537 Speaker 2: and how this is going to factor into not just 480 00:22:12,537 --> 00:22:15,897 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four election but politics going forward. You know, 481 00:22:15,897 --> 00:22:18,337 Speaker 2: what are we going to do about Google? How's rumble dooing? 482 00:22:18,377 --> 00:22:19,457 Speaker 2: All that kind of can we do with some of 483 00:22:19,497 --> 00:22:21,297 Speaker 2: that stuff? We'll come back, Dave, talk about this. Yeah, 484 00:22:21,337 --> 00:22:23,417 Speaker 2: because you're very involved, come back and do that stuff 485 00:22:23,457 --> 00:22:25,297 Speaker 2: I have. 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Is Elon 510 00:23:32,017 --> 00:23:36,137 Speaker 2: totally committed to actual freedom of speech and is the 511 00:23:36,137 --> 00:23:38,417 Speaker 2: force of a truth justice in the American We're going 512 00:23:38,457 --> 00:23:38,897 Speaker 2: to prevail. 513 00:23:39,417 --> 00:23:43,897 Speaker 1: Tell me, look, I've been up to Twitter a couple 514 00:23:43,937 --> 00:23:47,337 Speaker 1: of times. I've spent a few hours with Elon I 515 00:23:47,377 --> 00:23:50,257 Speaker 1: think he is a really good human being. He really is. 516 00:23:50,297 --> 00:23:53,737 Speaker 1: There is a softness and a decency and a thoughtfulness 517 00:23:53,817 --> 00:23:57,337 Speaker 1: to him. I actually genuinely believe he bought Twitter for 518 00:23:57,377 --> 00:23:59,697 Speaker 1: the right reasons. It's why he doesn't even want to 519 00:23:59,697 --> 00:24:02,137 Speaker 1: bring it public now, you know, the thing is purging money. 520 00:24:02,337 --> 00:24:04,337 Speaker 1: If he wanted to bring it public, meaning just get 521 00:24:04,377 --> 00:24:07,457 Speaker 1: other investors involved and get shareholders back in to stop 522 00:24:07,497 --> 00:24:09,497 Speaker 1: some of the bleeding, he could do that, but he 523 00:24:09,537 --> 00:24:12,137 Speaker 1: doesn't want to do it because he wants to control 524 00:24:12,177 --> 00:24:14,577 Speaker 1: it so that they can fix it. He has massive 525 00:24:14,697 --> 00:24:18,497 Speaker 1: freaking problems there. They no doubt have bad guys that 526 00:24:18,537 --> 00:24:20,297 Speaker 1: are still there. You know, he fired They had about 527 00:24:20,297 --> 00:24:23,137 Speaker 1: seven thousand, five hundred employees. He fired half of them, 528 00:24:23,137 --> 00:24:25,457 Speaker 1: so they've got a little over three thousand. He still 529 00:24:25,457 --> 00:24:27,537 Speaker 1: has people he has to fire. He's not sure who 530 00:24:27,577 --> 00:24:30,737 Speaker 1: all the bad guys are, meaning literally programmers that might 531 00:24:30,777 --> 00:24:34,057 Speaker 1: be doing things that you know, might be shadow banning 532 00:24:34,137 --> 00:24:35,897 Speaker 1: you or me, And he just doesn't know about it, 533 00:24:36,097 --> 00:24:39,177 Speaker 1: So he has huge problems. The code is written incredibly horribly, 534 00:24:39,217 --> 00:24:42,217 Speaker 1: as he described to me in a long Twitter thread 535 00:24:42,217 --> 00:24:44,017 Speaker 1: that I put out after the first time I was there. 536 00:24:44,697 --> 00:24:46,817 Speaker 1: So they have huge, huge issues. You know, he's trying 537 00:24:46,817 --> 00:24:49,097 Speaker 1: to go more into the video space, make it more 538 00:24:49,137 --> 00:24:52,777 Speaker 1: of a YouTube rumble type competitor. There's a lot of 539 00:24:52,817 --> 00:24:54,977 Speaker 1: work that has to be done by that. He also 540 00:24:55,057 --> 00:24:59,257 Speaker 1: is still using Amazon Aws, which is a big problem 541 00:24:59,297 --> 00:25:02,977 Speaker 1: because if Amazon itself wanted to parlor him, they could. 542 00:25:03,017 --> 00:25:05,857 Speaker 1: Meaning you know, right after January sixth, they didn't like Parlor, 543 00:25:05,897 --> 00:25:07,697 Speaker 1: and it was it had nothing to do with January sixth, 544 00:25:07,777 --> 00:25:10,497 Speaker 1: that was the excuse, but Parlor was the new guy. 545 00:25:10,537 --> 00:25:13,897 Speaker 1: They were getting twenty three monthly million unique users and 546 00:25:13,937 --> 00:25:16,257 Speaker 1: they just flip a switch. Amazon blows them up. So 547 00:25:16,337 --> 00:25:18,057 Speaker 1: he has a problem there. I mean, he definitely has 548 00:25:18,097 --> 00:25:20,617 Speaker 1: some weak points. All that being said, I think he 549 00:25:20,657 --> 00:25:23,097 Speaker 1: will continue to fight the good fight. And you know, 550 00:25:23,137 --> 00:25:25,777 Speaker 1: in terms of what he's done, say with Twitter spaces, 551 00:25:25,777 --> 00:25:29,457 Speaker 1: the DeSantis announcement, he's had RFK on, he's offered it 552 00:25:29,497 --> 00:25:33,817 Speaker 1: to every presidential candidate. I think that's all good. But Buck, 553 00:25:33,857 --> 00:25:36,457 Speaker 1: as you and I have talked about before, over drinks. 554 00:25:36,977 --> 00:25:40,937 Speaker 1: Twitter seems off still, the engagement seems very bizarre. It's 555 00:25:40,937 --> 00:25:43,017 Speaker 1: hard to make sense of any of it. Things that 556 00:25:43,057 --> 00:25:45,297 Speaker 1: I used to write that would literally get ten thousand 557 00:25:45,377 --> 00:25:48,257 Speaker 1: retweets within three minutes, you know, now get one hundred 558 00:25:48,417 --> 00:25:50,777 Speaker 1: likes or something, and people's behaviors change. By the way. 559 00:25:50,857 --> 00:25:54,097 Speaker 1: I don't think everything's up to conspiracy, but something kind 560 00:25:54,097 --> 00:25:56,657 Speaker 1: of doesn't feel right. You know. He also had that 561 00:25:56,737 --> 00:26:00,337 Speaker 1: comment where he said, what was it. We'll have freedom 562 00:26:00,377 --> 00:26:03,537 Speaker 1: of speech, but not freedom of reach. And that's a 563 00:26:03,657 --> 00:26:06,897 Speaker 1: very slippery slope because Okay, we're not going to ban 564 00:26:07,057 --> 00:26:09,857 Speaker 1: you outright for your speech, but we can depress the 565 00:26:09,897 --> 00:26:13,497 Speaker 1: view use that's actually more subversive in a weird way, 566 00:26:13,577 --> 00:26:15,737 Speaker 1: especially if you don't know the rules around that. So 567 00:26:15,817 --> 00:26:17,857 Speaker 1: I think he's got a lot of crap to deal with. 568 00:26:18,337 --> 00:26:20,177 Speaker 1: I can tell you this, and you know, I'm part 569 00:26:20,217 --> 00:26:22,777 Speaker 1: owner of Rumble because I started locals dot com, which 570 00:26:22,817 --> 00:26:26,817 Speaker 1: eventually merged. We are a free speech platform period as 571 00:26:26,817 --> 00:26:28,257 Speaker 1: long as you do not break the laws of the 572 00:26:28,337 --> 00:26:30,857 Speaker 1: United States. You can put on whatever you want, you 573 00:26:30,897 --> 00:26:33,497 Speaker 1: can title your videos whatever you want, you can gender 574 00:26:33,537 --> 00:26:37,017 Speaker 1: anyone the way you want. And we are fighting very, 575 00:26:37,137 --> 00:26:39,097 Speaker 1: very hard for free speech. As a matter of fact, 576 00:26:39,337 --> 00:26:42,657 Speaker 1: we are not on in France right now, Rumble because 577 00:26:42,697 --> 00:26:45,737 Speaker 1: the government of Rumble, they were upset that we had 578 00:26:45,857 --> 00:26:48,817 Speaker 1: RT Russia today uses Rumble. They said you got to 579 00:26:48,817 --> 00:26:50,497 Speaker 1: get our t off or we're going to take you 580 00:26:50,537 --> 00:26:51,937 Speaker 1: off in France, and we said we're not going to 581 00:26:52,017 --> 00:26:54,457 Speaker 1: do it. And we are no longer on in France 582 00:26:54,497 --> 00:26:57,577 Speaker 1: because Chris Pavlovski, who's the CEO, the guy's standing up 583 00:26:57,617 --> 00:27:00,057 Speaker 1: for our principles. There's a cost, of course by not 584 00:27:00,137 --> 00:27:01,897 Speaker 1: being on in France, and you know, people always have 585 00:27:01,937 --> 00:27:04,177 Speaker 1: ways with VPNs or whatever to get around it. But 586 00:27:05,337 --> 00:27:07,817 Speaker 1: the point is we have an incredible team of people 587 00:27:07,857 --> 00:27:10,497 Speaker 1: that are fighting for the right things, and that's why 588 00:27:10,497 --> 00:27:12,297 Speaker 1: we merged in the first place. That's why I did it. 589 00:27:13,097 --> 00:27:18,897 Speaker 2: Zutlo not on in France. Blue, I was, we're gonna 590 00:27:18,897 --> 00:27:21,977 Speaker 2: go Soccra. So here's the thing, soccer Blue. All my 591 00:27:22,337 --> 00:27:25,417 Speaker 2: French friends, all like three of them my whole life. 592 00:27:25,537 --> 00:27:28,577 Speaker 2: They're like, that's not a French thing, that's a French 593 00:27:28,617 --> 00:27:31,737 Speaker 2: Canadian thing. And I'm like, oh, we're supposed to. We're 594 00:27:31,777 --> 00:27:35,217 Speaker 2: supposed to, you know, differentiate between like the Mounties and 595 00:27:35,457 --> 00:27:38,177 Speaker 2: the baguette eaters over in France, like it's all the 596 00:27:38,217 --> 00:27:38,697 Speaker 2: same thing. 597 00:27:39,017 --> 00:27:41,817 Speaker 1: No, we're Americans. It's a miracle. We know the difference 598 00:27:41,817 --> 00:27:45,217 Speaker 1: between Mexico and Canada. It's for point, Mexico's the one 599 00:27:45,257 --> 00:27:45,617 Speaker 1: up north. 600 00:27:45,657 --> 00:27:50,657 Speaker 2: Right, fair enough, So are we doing much better than 601 00:27:50,817 --> 00:27:55,377 Speaker 2: we uh going into this election? I think people forget 602 00:27:55,417 --> 00:27:59,777 Speaker 2: that in twenty twenty we were at an absolute low 603 00:27:59,857 --> 00:28:04,897 Speaker 2: point of free speech online for conservative voices, right, COVID stuff, 604 00:28:05,377 --> 00:28:07,217 Speaker 2: BLM stuff, a lot of there was a lot of 605 00:28:07,257 --> 00:28:10,497 Speaker 2: just different suppression, you know, oh this is anti science 606 00:28:11,017 --> 00:28:13,377 Speaker 2: and all that stuff. Do you think that we're in 607 00:28:13,417 --> 00:28:15,457 Speaker 2: a better place now and what has to happen for 608 00:28:15,617 --> 00:28:19,537 Speaker 2: us to be able to line up the artillery pieces 609 00:28:19,657 --> 00:28:22,177 Speaker 2: of free speech on our side so that we can 610 00:28:22,217 --> 00:28:27,657 Speaker 2: start to match the censorious and totalitarian impulses of the 611 00:28:27,697 --> 00:28:30,977 Speaker 2: Democrat side. Well, I would say, broadly speaking, we're in 612 00:28:30,977 --> 00:28:31,817 Speaker 2: a better situation. 613 00:28:31,937 --> 00:28:34,737 Speaker 1: Right. YouTube is rolling back some of their election stuff 614 00:28:34,777 --> 00:28:37,177 Speaker 1: so that you can question that they're changing some things 615 00:28:37,217 --> 00:28:41,897 Speaker 1: related to gender pronouns and all that. And obviously Twitter 616 00:28:42,497 --> 00:28:46,137 Speaker 1: exists with elon now, and there are alternative platforms like Rumble, 617 00:28:46,257 --> 00:28:49,137 Speaker 1: So broadly speaking, we're in a better situation. I think 618 00:28:49,137 --> 00:28:51,977 Speaker 1: The thing that I'm worried about more so is that 619 00:28:52,497 --> 00:28:54,537 Speaker 1: as we all kind of go off in our own 620 00:28:54,537 --> 00:28:56,897 Speaker 1: little corners, and you know, the people that listen to 621 00:28:56,937 --> 00:28:58,977 Speaker 1: my show have a certain sense of the world, and 622 00:28:59,017 --> 00:29:01,737 Speaker 1: it's pretty somewhat similar obviously to the people that listen 623 00:29:01,817 --> 00:29:05,177 Speaker 1: to you and Clay, But that's very, very different than 624 00:29:05,177 --> 00:29:08,097 Speaker 1: the person that watches MSNBC. It's very different than the person. 625 00:29:08,417 --> 00:29:10,537 Speaker 1: I don't even know what the YouTube equivalent either one 626 00:29:10,537 --> 00:29:12,737 Speaker 1: of us is. I can't even believe that anyone watches 627 00:29:12,897 --> 00:29:15,697 Speaker 1: these miserable left these top politics. But okay, I guess 628 00:29:15,737 --> 00:29:19,417 Speaker 1: they exist somewhere, but we are increasingly all just living 629 00:29:19,497 --> 00:29:22,217 Speaker 1: in our separate world. So for example, you know, when 630 00:29:22,897 --> 00:29:24,657 Speaker 1: did you see this? The other day on Sunday night 631 00:29:24,737 --> 00:29:27,017 Speaker 1: was the Tony Awards, and one of the actresses from 632 00:29:27,057 --> 00:29:30,457 Speaker 1: Hamilton gets up there and she says that Ron DeSantis 633 00:29:30,497 --> 00:29:33,297 Speaker 1: is the Grand Wizard of the KKK, and it's like, 634 00:29:33,697 --> 00:29:36,297 Speaker 1: I get it, She's just being provocative and stupid. But 635 00:29:36,337 --> 00:29:38,617 Speaker 1: they all applaud like seals and they throw them little 636 00:29:38,617 --> 00:29:41,777 Speaker 1: fish and or or It's great, okay, fine, but the 637 00:29:41,857 --> 00:29:44,417 Speaker 1: fact that that is a joke that anyone laughs at 638 00:29:44,537 --> 00:29:47,137 Speaker 1: or even things is remotely true, or that there's anything 639 00:29:47,137 --> 00:29:50,337 Speaker 1: close to racism being tolerated in Florida, or that you 640 00:29:50,377 --> 00:29:52,217 Speaker 1: can't be gay in Florida, or whatever it might be. 641 00:29:52,777 --> 00:29:54,857 Speaker 1: It shows that we are so out of whack with 642 00:29:54,937 --> 00:29:57,537 Speaker 1: each other that I don't know how you bridge that divide. 643 00:29:57,537 --> 00:29:59,617 Speaker 1: So that's not a direct answer to your question on 644 00:29:59,697 --> 00:30:02,977 Speaker 1: free speech, as sort of like the banner version of it. 645 00:30:03,217 --> 00:30:05,577 Speaker 1: But I am worried about the disconnect that we all 646 00:30:05,617 --> 00:30:07,937 Speaker 1: have from each other. And you know, look, we all 647 00:30:07,937 --> 00:30:10,297 Speaker 1: have this thing, we all have apps, and the question 648 00:30:10,457 --> 00:30:13,497 Speaker 1: is how do we have anything that will bring us 649 00:30:13,537 --> 00:30:17,177 Speaker 1: to some sort of national cohesion beyond just tragedy, Right, 650 00:30:17,217 --> 00:30:19,337 Speaker 1: Like I don't want another nine to eleven so that 651 00:30:19,377 --> 00:30:21,097 Speaker 1: we can suddenly all be like, oh, I guess we 652 00:30:21,137 --> 00:30:23,297 Speaker 1: could have let go of some of that petty nonsense. 653 00:30:23,697 --> 00:30:25,417 Speaker 1: But in a weird way, it feels like that's the 654 00:30:25,417 --> 00:30:28,897 Speaker 1: only thing that can bring us together now because goodness 655 00:30:29,057 --> 00:30:33,017 Speaker 1: is portrayed as evil by these guys. The goodness that 656 00:30:33,057 --> 00:30:35,777 Speaker 1: you and I know of Florida, where it's working and 657 00:30:35,817 --> 00:30:39,097 Speaker 1: it's American and it's great and it's flourishing and all 658 00:30:39,137 --> 00:30:42,897 Speaker 1: those things that is portrayed every single day as evil 659 00:30:43,057 --> 00:30:46,457 Speaker 1: on the View and on MSNBC and CNN, and whether 660 00:30:46,497 --> 00:30:48,737 Speaker 1: we like it or not, people watch those things less 661 00:30:48,737 --> 00:30:51,297 Speaker 1: and less people, but people do. And I don't know 662 00:30:51,337 --> 00:30:53,017 Speaker 1: how you do? You do you have any idea, like 663 00:30:53,017 --> 00:30:55,377 Speaker 1: how do we get over that chasm? 664 00:30:55,897 --> 00:30:59,777 Speaker 2: I worry that we're increasingly not only in a political 665 00:30:59,817 --> 00:31:05,537 Speaker 2: world of dueling propaganda machines, but that people are now 666 00:31:05,537 --> 00:31:12,657 Speaker 2: being forced to increasingly adopt not just wrong but anti 667 00:31:12,697 --> 00:31:16,617 Speaker 2: truth positions like the polar opposite of truth to be 668 00:31:16,697 --> 00:31:19,257 Speaker 2: part of a political tribe like that's and I think 669 00:31:19,297 --> 00:31:22,537 Speaker 2: that this is on the left all over the place now, 670 00:31:22,857 --> 00:31:25,817 Speaker 2: and that's why the atomization of the media that's occurring 671 00:31:26,417 --> 00:31:28,937 Speaker 2: is well for people like us, an opportunity. It's interesting. 672 00:31:29,457 --> 00:31:33,057 Speaker 2: It also shows you that we were not arguing over 673 00:31:33,097 --> 00:31:34,217 Speaker 2: the same facts anymore. 674 00:31:34,417 --> 00:31:37,977 Speaker 1: Right, Well, that's why when Trump went crazy on Florida, 675 00:31:38,017 --> 00:31:41,097 Speaker 1: remember that Friday where he put out that truth social post. 676 00:31:40,817 --> 00:31:43,537 Speaker 2: And just I was like, this is crazy, guys. I 677 00:31:44,137 --> 00:31:46,697 Speaker 2: love Trump in so many ways, but Florida is awesome 678 00:31:46,697 --> 00:31:48,417 Speaker 2: and he knows it and everyone knows it, and this 679 00:31:48,457 --> 00:31:50,017 Speaker 2: is garbage. And I got a lot of heat for it, 680 00:31:50,017 --> 00:31:53,737 Speaker 2: but I don't care because I'm not living in the reality. Well, Buck, you. 681 00:31:54,057 --> 00:31:56,017 Speaker 1: And I have discussed this over drinks many times, Like, 682 00:31:56,057 --> 00:31:58,017 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if for us to 683 00:31:58,097 --> 00:32:00,737 Speaker 1: do what we do for a living, all I can 684 00:32:00,777 --> 00:32:02,937 Speaker 1: do is tell people what I think, and sometimes they're 685 00:32:02,937 --> 00:32:05,017 Speaker 1: going to like it, and sometimes they aren't. Right. But 686 00:32:05,057 --> 00:32:07,537 Speaker 1: if I was to wake up every morning and be like, oh, 687 00:32:07,577 --> 00:32:10,377 Speaker 1: what does my audience want or I'm a little scared 688 00:32:10,417 --> 00:32:12,257 Speaker 1: of this section of my audience or whatever, I'd be 689 00:32:12,297 --> 00:32:15,497 Speaker 1: freaking miserable, and honestly I would do something else right, 690 00:32:15,537 --> 00:32:17,817 Speaker 1: Like I really mean that, I really mean that. So 691 00:32:18,097 --> 00:32:20,137 Speaker 1: I think you're similar in that regard. You tell people 692 00:32:20,137 --> 00:32:22,377 Speaker 1: what you think and sometimes you're going to take callers 693 00:32:22,417 --> 00:32:24,537 Speaker 1: that are pissed at you, and sometimes people agree with you. 694 00:32:24,817 --> 00:32:28,257 Speaker 1: But I think ultimately most people, and it may not 695 00:32:28,337 --> 00:32:31,537 Speaker 1: be the commenters on YouTube, but most people actually respect 696 00:32:31,537 --> 00:32:34,417 Speaker 1: people that they feel are being authentic about things because 697 00:32:34,417 --> 00:32:37,057 Speaker 1: that comes across. So you know, Gavin Newsom, for example, 698 00:32:37,137 --> 00:32:39,577 Speaker 1: is deeply inauthentic. That's what I would say. So that's 699 00:32:39,577 --> 00:32:40,937 Speaker 1: why I want to ask Clay about it, because I 700 00:32:40,977 --> 00:32:44,137 Speaker 1: don't know how someone could be so inauthentic and also likable. 701 00:32:44,177 --> 00:32:46,897 Speaker 1: I don't see how those two things can coexist at 702 00:32:46,937 --> 00:32:50,057 Speaker 1: the same time. But that's why when Trump went on 703 00:32:50,097 --> 00:32:53,737 Speaker 1: that crazy anti Florida tirade, and I really was going 704 00:32:53,777 --> 00:32:56,057 Speaker 1: after him that day because it felt like, you're attacking 705 00:32:56,097 --> 00:32:59,457 Speaker 1: my home, you're attacking my family, you're attacking the place 706 00:32:59,497 --> 00:33:03,617 Speaker 1: that was the refuge for literally hundreds of thousands and 707 00:33:03,697 --> 00:33:07,617 Speaker 1: ultimately over a million Americans when COVID was going crazy. 708 00:33:07,857 --> 00:33:10,297 Speaker 1: I just did a bunch of stops in Europe and 709 00:33:10,457 --> 00:33:13,497 Speaker 1: everywhere there. You're from Florida, you moved to Florida, Dave 710 00:33:13,897 --> 00:33:17,617 Speaker 1: How's life in Florida. Florida's America. But people love Florida, 711 00:33:17,657 --> 00:33:20,257 Speaker 1: they love DeSantis. So when he did that, and by 712 00:33:20,257 --> 00:33:23,177 Speaker 1: the way, you know when he did that, the night before, 713 00:33:23,817 --> 00:33:27,897 Speaker 1: he had twelve Florida Congress people at Marlago who all 714 00:33:28,417 --> 00:33:31,737 Speaker 1: announced that they were supporting him. Then at nine am 715 00:33:31,857 --> 00:33:34,057 Speaker 1: the next morning on truth Social he puts up a 716 00:33:34,097 --> 00:33:36,977 Speaker 1: post saying how horrible Florida is. So he gets these 717 00:33:36,977 --> 00:33:40,057 Speaker 1: Congress people in there for a fancy dinner at Marlago, 718 00:33:40,097 --> 00:33:42,497 Speaker 1: and it's very nice. We've both been there. But then 719 00:33:42,777 --> 00:33:45,377 Speaker 1: the next morning he throws them all under the bus, 720 00:33:45,817 --> 00:33:48,257 Speaker 1: and it's like, how many times has he done this? 721 00:33:48,737 --> 00:33:50,697 Speaker 1: How many times has he done this? But I get it. 722 00:33:50,777 --> 00:33:53,137 Speaker 1: I get the point. A certain set of people are 723 00:33:53,137 --> 00:33:55,457 Speaker 1: going to excuse it no matter what, and you just 724 00:33:55,497 --> 00:33:58,217 Speaker 1: have to you just have to slog through. 725 00:33:58,217 --> 00:34:02,857 Speaker 2: I suppose, Dave Rubin, everybody check out the Ruben Report 726 00:34:03,337 --> 00:34:05,897 Speaker 2: on Rumble right. That's the home of the Ruben Report. 727 00:34:06,057 --> 00:34:08,057 Speaker 2: I would assume that is the. 728 00:34:08,017 --> 00:34:10,977 Speaker 1: Home of the Ruben Report. It's also on the YouTube 729 00:34:10,977 --> 00:34:12,857 Speaker 1: for as long as they'll let us be there. And 730 00:34:13,257 --> 00:34:16,017 Speaker 1: you know, we're on the other podcast platforms. And sometimes 731 00:34:16,057 --> 00:34:18,217 Speaker 1: I'm just wandering around the streets in Florida and people 732 00:34:18,297 --> 00:34:20,577 Speaker 1: can find me and that's nice too, Dave. 733 00:34:20,857 --> 00:34:23,377 Speaker 2: I will see you, see you at the home with 734 00:34:23,577 --> 00:34:26,137 Speaker 2: the fancy sushi at the party soon, my friend. Thank 735 00:34:26,177 --> 00:34:27,177 Speaker 2: you so much. Good to see you. 736 00:34:28,137 --> 00:34:30,137 Speaker 1: Thank you for not doxing me. But yes, there will 737 00:34:30,137 --> 00:34:30,657 Speaker 1: be sushi.