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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and a podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hello my Little Peanuts, sits me your host, Lance Bass.

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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips and this is my husband, Michael Churchin. Oh,

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Speaker 1: thank you for the introduction. Lance Bass. Excited for today

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Speaker 1: because we have a very special episode. We have broken

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Speaker 1: the mold. Guys, we have all right, they do have

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Speaker 1: FoST Frosted Tips, so it fits the show. But it's

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Speaker 1: our first female, our first non boy bander was But

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Speaker 1: it makes sense, it really does because she has had

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Speaker 1: the front row seat to the whole boy band extravaganza.

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Speaker 1: She has toured with us on our stadium tour. A

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Speaker 1: huge fan of hers from the very beginning she was

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Speaker 1: sixteen years old, Miss Debbie Gibson. That's right, the one

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Speaker 1: and only. And she's got stories, folks, story stories. I

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Speaker 1: can guarantee you I could do four episodes with this lady.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm sure you could. Yeah. I mean she's good storyteller.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. She has a story for everything and

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Speaker 1: what she's done in her career. Holy most still has

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Speaker 1: crazy records that have not been broken since she was

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Speaker 1: seventeen years old. I know, Holy moly. But before she

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Speaker 1: gets here, what's going on. A little coffee. Let's get

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Speaker 1: a little coffee talk. I am drinking a little coffee, right,

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Speaker 1: nice ice, flat white. Oh yeah, well, okay, kid update

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Speaker 1: because you know, I know you love listening to our

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Speaker 1: kids talk. Rights they do so, and I'm sure parents

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Speaker 1: out there will know this for sure, but guys, stop

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Speaker 1: buying toys for your kids just because it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: The only thing you need is a cardboard box. Cardboard box.

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Speaker 1: Last night and our kid, we got a delivery and

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Speaker 1: it was just kind of a medium sized box. Right,

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Speaker 1: two of them consider in it barely. They played with

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Speaker 1: this thing for hours the last time. I mean they

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Speaker 1: were just peeking out of that box and to the

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Speaker 1: point where the box is finally collected on them, and

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Speaker 1: then they would try to rebuilding it like it was

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Speaker 1: something else. Now, they might have had a few paper cuts, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because they definitely have a lot of paper. It's it's

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Speaker 1: it's yeah, not the safest thing, but you know, you

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Speaker 1: need to give them a little you know, maybe tape

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Speaker 1: up the sides that are a little sharp. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but there's got to be a company out there just

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Speaker 1: making like toy paper boxes for kids, kids playing if

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Speaker 1: they're not someone do it because it's a billion dollar business.

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Speaker 1: That's right, we copyrighted, but you can't do it now. No,

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Speaker 1: I take it. We're not gonna do anything. Yeah. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is my frosted tip free pars right now, just

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Speaker 1: get a cardboard box. I was the same way as

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Speaker 1: a kid. I remember I was like seven years old

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Speaker 1: and we would I think, well, you could get like

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Speaker 1: a dishwasher, right or afrigerator and you'd have the big

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Speaker 1: oldfrigerator boxes. My sister and I would play in that

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Speaker 1: thing for hours. So fun. Yeah, loved it. But we

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Speaker 1: also didn't have toys. Just kidding. Oh my god. That

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Speaker 1: was our toy. That was our toy. Times were tough

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Speaker 1: in the eighties. Um, all right, this another thing before

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Speaker 1: we get Debbie in here. Um, so both both Turkey

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Speaker 1: and I have a problem. We well, no, but you

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Speaker 1: have one too. I have a bigger problem. But you

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Speaker 1: also have the problem of seeing an ad on Facebook

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Speaker 1: and saying, you know what I need that impulse bies.

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Speaker 1: We're impulse, yes, but you just buy immediately from seeing

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Speaker 1: it without doing any due diligence. Absolutely absolutely. I mean

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Speaker 1: you're researching turkeys, so you really dive in. Oh. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I'll go and see some reviews. But the

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Speaker 1: problem is, I don't know if I trust reviews. So

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Speaker 1: Turkey gets a package yesterday and I swear to god,

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Speaker 1: it's snail ninety two is what it's called. It's musin

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Speaker 1: mucus from a snake. He bought a whole bottle mucus

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Speaker 1: put on her face. Yeah, all right, And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: and I look at the bottle and it looks like

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Speaker 1: a fake labels put on. It's all in Chinese, and

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Speaker 1: I've bought things from overseas and it is not what

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Speaker 1: He's on this and I don't know what you're putting

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Speaker 1: and it makes and it's really from snail. They really

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Speaker 1: take you know, it's called snail. But maybe they can

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Speaker 1: able to make it fakely synthetically. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: hurt all those snails. I don't know. Well, maybe they

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Speaker 1: don't have to kill snails. Maybe they just kind of

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Speaker 1: thing and then they just take that. But anyway, it's

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Speaker 1: I saw it, you know what, I bought it on Amazon. Well,

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Speaker 1: if it's on Amazon, it must be real. Listen, it

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Speaker 1: was on Ulta dot com. It was on Macy's dot com. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that that company exists. But I guarantee you

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Speaker 1: the bottle that you got it from Amazon. I'm from

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Speaker 1: the company fake burkin Wow, fake Burkina. Right now. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you're gonna buy a broken from

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Speaker 1: some unknown site, well who it was not an unknown site.

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Speaker 1: It was a Chinese It was Amazon, but the salary

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Speaker 1: was all the company is a Chinese company. Lance, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go to Alta. I'm gonna get a bottle there

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have four point six rating out of

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Speaker 1: by the way you can buy. Yeah, a lot of them,

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Speaker 1: says those farms Russia, troll farms. And on that note,

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Speaker 1: no one will secres talk right now. Let's let's get

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Speaker 1: Debbie Gibson in here for more than thirty five years.

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Speaker 1: Debbie Gibson has been a true pioneer enforce in the

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Speaker 1: entertainment industry. Singer, songwriter, producer, musician, actor, entrepreneur. She embodies

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Speaker 1: what it truly means to be an icon. A music prodigy,

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Speaker 1: Gibson burst onto the Billboard Pop charts at the age

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Speaker 1: of sixteen with a self penned Only in My Dreams.

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Speaker 1: The original pop Princess, quickly became the youngest artist ever

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Speaker 1: the Guinness Book of World Records. To date, she is

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Speaker 1: a year later, she did it again with her self

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Speaker 1: penned and produced hit Lost in Your Eyes, making her

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Speaker 1: released ten studio albums, five compilations. To have You, Gibson,

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Speaker 1: that is quite the life you have had? Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: now and again when I'm like, oh my god, I

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Speaker 1: of everything it does. I mean such a young age,

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Speaker 1: I mean sixteen years old and I love your origin

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Speaker 1: I mean, make sure you know your classroom, make sure

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Speaker 1: have to wait in this street. That was my first song.

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Speaker 1: and I wrote about it. I have a dream of nightmare,

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Speaker 1: recurring nightmare being in school and not knowing where my

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Speaker 1: tenant ladies. Can you guys give me my combo again?

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Speaker 1: Like yesterday I was walking down the street and I

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Speaker 1: literally started singing my thoughts out loud, like that's what

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Speaker 1: We brought this up in one of the last episodes

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Speaker 1: with I Think Trevor from Otown. Um, we're doing a

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Speaker 1: all like the children's songs in the show. So you

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Speaker 1: are this show, yes please? And by the way, like

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Speaker 1: be a doc sins? We can make her whatever. Well,

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Speaker 1: at twelve years old, you won a thousand dollars and

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Speaker 1: a songwriting contest or radio station. I come from America.

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Speaker 1: my mom unofficially managing me before she managed me, the

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Speaker 1: original Mamager, original manager. She brought that tape. I gave

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Speaker 1: a tour on the deadline day because that's how I

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Speaker 1: She was running. She was office manager for surgeons in

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Speaker 1: and their phones and everything to network for me, send

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Speaker 1: So she's looking at this thing and she's like, should

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Speaker 1: I just throw this in the garbage? My freaking daughter.

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Speaker 1: She gives me this on the deadline day and she's

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Speaker 1: not good and she leaves them me more than anyone,

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Speaker 1: but she's like this contest is a long shot, like

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Speaker 1: there's probably people of all ages and did it. But

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Speaker 1: then she was like, I can't not send it, so

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Speaker 1: she sent it V a messenger that I'm sure she didn't.

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Speaker 1: Sure the doctors paid for that. Yeah, they didn't give

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Speaker 1: him any of the thousand dollars, so they didn't mean it.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, Yeah, so the call comes and I won

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Speaker 1: I will say, like with mass Singer when I was

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00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: in the like I'm in the mask, you know, and

425
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 1: you're just like this like a couple of inches between

426
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: you and the front of the mask, so you're in

427
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,199
Speaker 1: this like meditative little world of your own. And I

428
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: was standing there like with the panelist giving their comments

429
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,719
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I thought, this is like every reason

430
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 1: the little Girl performer and me ever wanted to be

431
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: in showbiz. I'm in an elaborate costume and I'm like

432
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: nobody knews who I am. I'm playing make believe. And

433
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: I had to learn a song really quick and like,

434
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: by the way, if you think you know Fernando, just

435
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: attempt to sing the verse right now. So the timing

436
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: I was like two three and I had to write

437
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: myself a lead sheet. But then I was trying to

438
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: like nap in between, like my for me, my voice

439
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: did not sound the best like the verse. I was

440
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: like watching it bad, cringing because I just hate when

441
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 1: I don't sound my like butt for where I was

442
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 1: the day before and how a little sleep I gotten

443
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 1: like I was like crying and eating pizza the day before,

444
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 1: not knowing I was going to be singing, Oh I'm

445
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: traveling fifteen hours. But so I was like, well for that, okay, sure,

446
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: But it was more about the energy of it, the performance,

447
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: the spontaneity. It wasn't like I was like, probably not

448
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: going to produce a Grammy Award winning vocal on this,

449
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: on this, but but then like by winner takes at All,

450
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: I felt strong and open And what was the craziest

451
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: guess they gave for you this season? Who did they

452
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: say they thought you were? That You're like what Dolly Parton?

453
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: And I know why because my voice was like trilly

454
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: and fluttery at the beginning because I was so tired

455
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: so and I have a very fast vibrato. Sometimes it's

456
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: just like like it does that true? And I think

457
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 1: I did like a no no no no no no

458
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: no no. I like this, I did like a storyteller.

459
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: But I'm like, okay, the body type. Clearly that was

460
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: not Dolly, but that was a good one. Um, I

461
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: love that, Ken, said Sarah Jessica Parker. I was like, listen,

462
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: I feel that, and just like that should have me

463
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: come on as Sarah's Carrie Bradshaw's long lost sister. I think,

464
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: don't you see it? So I was kind of happy.

465
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: I was like, thank you for that, Ken, But yeah,

466
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: that was probably the funniest guest. Yeah, how fun. I've

467
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: had several friends that are on that show and they

468
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: just had such a blast. It really really is. I

469
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: mean this is now two seasons a year. It's so

470
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: popular righting seasons now. Now, now I wouldn't mind going

471
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: to doing it in like another country where I do

472
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: prepare because now I know a little bit, because it

473
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 1: really isn't every country. And again, shouldn't be saying any

474
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: of this because it would give away if like, you know,

475
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: people then think them, you know, did you get to

476
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: tour the world Japan back in the eighties, like when

477
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: you you know, first released your music, did you do

478
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: outside America much? Or did they keep you here in

479
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: the States. So I did, like the one big go around,

480
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: I did more promo in like Europe, but I did

481
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: concerts in the UK, a lot of Asia. Like even

482
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: up to like five years ago, I've done a lot

483
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 1: of Asia, some South America. Australia I have not and

484
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 1: back to Australian over thirty years, which I can't believe.

485
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 1: But I feel like I'm in the beginning of this

486
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: new chapter that started a few years ago with the

487
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: mixtape tour, and it's been so incredible for me and I.

488
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: You know, we're just like slowly rebuilding my touring story.

489
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: I say we, my manager, Heather and I were like

490
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 1: Thelma and Louise out in the world, just keeping getting

491
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: it going again, keeping it going. And it's been amazing

492
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: because like the shows I did last year, I was

493
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: on stage for like two two and a half hours

494
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: a night, just me singing, dancing, but then doing like

495
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: acoustic taking requests. It's just been a really great communing

496
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 1: time with my audience. Like there's it's just a connectedness

497
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,719
Speaker 1: that I feel that I love. Yeah, your fans are

498
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: great and you're just a true musician and it just

499
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: shows thank you everything that you do. The mixtape tour

500
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: so great. How did that come about? When did you

501
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: first you know, start thinking about that that came up.

502
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: So I was on the set of a Hallmark movie,

503
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: did a couple of Hallmark movies and I on set

504
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: and my manager was there and she was like, we

505
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: got a really fun call today. And then Donnie called

506
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: and talked through the creative with me, and then he

507
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: was like, and Joe has a question. Because at that

508
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: point I was like, of course, sign me up and

509
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: that he was like, Joe has a question, but he

510
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: really wants to call you and ask you. Can I

511
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: give you give him your number and I'm like yeah.

512
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: So he called and he's like, um, how would you

513
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: like to share your biggest number one hit with me?

514
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: And I was like, I've never thought of doing that

515
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: song as a duet. But hello, you're Joey McIntyre the audience.

516
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: As a teenager, you must have been a fan of

517
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: New Kids on the Block. Oh yeah, yeah, I was.

518
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: How weird is that to be? Like, Oh, now I'm

519
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: like working with someone that I really yeah, I mean

520
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: like I was a fan. And also we had cross

521
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: paths enough that we were all like peers. But like

522
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: Joey and I always talk about when we met in

523
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: the dressing room at Westbury music Fair and he's only

524
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: two years younger than me, but when you are a

525
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: high school senior, he felt so much younger. And he was,

526
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: oh my god, you were like this cool senior girl.

527
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: And I had seen you on the American Music Awards

528
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: with the white piano at all the right And but

529
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: then when we did Lost in Your Eyes together on

530
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,239
Speaker 1: the mixtape tour, it was so magical and a lot

531
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: of people didn't want spoiler alerts, so they didn't know

532
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: he was going to come walking out. Ah, get we

533
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: get a glass. I mean I joked that grown women

534
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: were weeping and I was one of them. I was

535
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: at the piano like, oh my god, because he was.

536
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: It was magical. It was like he was born to

537
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: give that song a second life, a new chapter. And

538
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: then we did Vegas shows together. They all got to

539
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: collaborate so much more in the future. Yeah, and I

540
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: want to do more. I love it. You're a great duo,

541
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 1: like great great performers mixtape tour, So is that are

542
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: they going to continue that good? They do it every

543
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: two years. Yeah. Salt Salton Pepper, Naughty My Nature are

544
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: pretty much always on and then they rotate the more

545
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: like mainstream pop acts like Rick Astley did it last year.

546
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: I love Rick. Yeah, but see, like for you, you're

547
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: used to the group dynamic. I've always been a solo

548
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: show unless I'm hired to do like a theater show.

549
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: So I've never had a partner in crime. For like,

550
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: it was interesting because there's as you know, there's creative negotiating,

551
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: there's but like, the thing I loved about sharing the

552
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: stage with Joe is that. So I can't tell you

553
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: how many people said to me, like, you're doing a

554
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: Vegas show. I want to write it. I go, what

555
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: do you mean? You don't? Nobody writes what I say

556
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: on a stage as me, like what and he's to

557
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: say we our banter was off the rails because both

558
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: of us just say whatever comes to her, and it was.

559
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: It was just it was really electric and really magical

560
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: for us. I love that. All right, Let's go back

561
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: to eighty seven. Only in my dreams that comes a

562
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: huge hit song. By the way, eighty seven is my

563
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: favorite year ever because I think the best music and

564
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: the best movies came out in eighty seven. I really

565
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: do like every time something come up. It was seven. Yeah,

566
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: and of course you were the was a good year

567
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: for both of us. That's fantastic year, like shoot me

568
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: Out Now. So it's a huge hit song, your debut album,

569
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: out of the Blue. During all of this, you're still

570
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: in high school. You're still going back to try to

571
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: finish high school and try to remember my locker cup.

572
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: But how why would you even try to do that?

573
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: Was that like your mom being like, nope, you have

574
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: to finish. No, it's such a really good question. So

575
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: I've always just like I always felt kind of freaky

576
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: and eccentric, because showbiz kids typically do. But I always

577
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: craved being quote unquote normal. Like I always was like, please,

578
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: don't think I'm weird and different, even though I was

579
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: totally weird and different, but I wanted to be normal.

580
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: And I never wanted to, you know, get to my

581
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: twenties and go, oh my god, I missed out on

582
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: my childhood. So instead I put myself through this tortuous

583
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: version of what I thought was on normal high school experience.

584
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: But it wasn't. But I could say I was there.

585
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: I could say I was there, I did it. I

586
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: could say I graduated with my class, and I could

587
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: say it was anything but normal. Did they did they

588
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: support you? Or were there kids that were mean to

589
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: you I mean or I mean, you're Debbie Gibson at

590
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: this point their fans now in the high school, right,

591
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: So I like, it's funny I'm flashing it being in

592
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: the owl mask because that perspective of I was like

593
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: sitting back within myself, peering out at everybody acting differently

594
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: around me. For the most part, except the there was

595
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,479
Speaker 1: like the group of ten probably the people who were

596
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: on your text read like the people who are still

597
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: in my life. They were like because they they knew

598
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: how hard I was working behind the scenes to make

599
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: things happen, and they knew. They just they just didn't

600
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: see me as different. They were excited for me and

601
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: the ones to keep it down to earth, they keep

602
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 1: yes and still do um. And so there were But

603
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: then there were people that I that were too cool

604
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: for me that suddenly were inviting me to their parties.

605
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: Then there were people I thought were my friend that

606
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: just couldn't handle what was going on with me and

607
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: turned on me. You've changed and yeah. I was like, yeah,

608
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: I know, you've changed. Um And And so I very

609
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: vividly remember this happening because that happened all the time.

610
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: Where I would be walking down and I was in

611
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: constant fight or flight, like anxiety mode. I could feel

612
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: the nerves in my body like oh, because I felt

613
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: on display. And so I was like going, I'm here

614
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: to be normal. I'm here to be normal. And so

615
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: I would be turning a corner and I'd hear someone

616
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: go only in my dreams, oh you think you're so

617
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: great whatever, And I would always take a deep breath

618
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: and turn back around the corner and say, Hi, if

619
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: you have something to say, please say it to my face.

620
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: And it gave me a bit and I was petrified

621
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: on the end. I was shaking, but I had to

622
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: stand up for myself. And it's like what happens on

623
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 1: social media now where people are they're around that corner

624
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: mocking you, right, And it's like it trained me for

625
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: the world now because and it makes me really feel

626
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: for young artists, especially young I say young everybody really

627
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: nobody wants that much unsolicited feedback, right, like people get

628
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: on social media, but especially young people. And I'm going

629
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: to say especially young girls. Yeah, you know, you could

630
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: already have so many cruel people out there, but something

631
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: about teenagers can be really cruel. Oh, it's so bad. Oh,

632
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: it's so bad, and people don't know. And by the way,

633
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: I've gone to my reunions. I went to my last

634
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: reunion whenever it was what year is this what year?

635
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: Four years ago? And everyone grew up and everyone was

636
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: lovely to me, and everyone was like, I've been rooting

637
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 1: for you. I always follow you and root for you,

638
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: and like, so people have matured and they have their lives,

639
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: and the thing is now they're happy. So like my

640
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: sister and Michelle like used to like, you know, I

641
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: think she said it to me even recently, like I

642
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't want your life, but like at some point in

643
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: childhood maybe she did. Or people think they want your life,

644
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: and then when they see the level of commitment and

645
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: the level of insanity, they're like, oh, yeah, I'm good

646
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: being a stay at home mom, You're a good being.

647
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: In showbiz, I'm good being you know, whatever they're doing.

648
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: And you know, there were all their career, so yeah,

649
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: people grow out of that. All. Let's like a little

650
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: break right here, and we come back. We got to

651
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: talk about feuds because you went through something that I

652
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: also went through too. We'll get to that, right and

653
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: we're back all right. So feud time, the whole Backstreet

654
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: in sync thing, right, It's you know, kind of fun.

655
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: It keeps you, you know, motivated to be better. But

656
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: you know it was kind of manufacted. It's manufactured, right.

657
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: It did keep us apart. We never really saw the guys,

658
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: and yeah, we would be very competitive, which made us better.

659
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: Like I said, but you kind of had this thing

660
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: also with Tiffany, just because two young girls come out

661
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: and you know at the same time, they kind of

662
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: put this feud between you guys. Did you ever feed

663
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: into that or like, did that ever affect you at

664
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: such a young age? I really I just was like,

665
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: similarly to those high school experiences. I was just like,

666
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: why are people trying to be mean? And why are

667
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: people trying to make me be mean to another girl?

668
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: And do you think it was like record label that

669
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: was trying to do this too. I think it's a

670
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: publicity machine. Yeah, right. You know. It was like everyone

671
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: loves a good competition, So like team magazines loved the

672
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: do you like better yes or no? They like poles

673
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: and it really does build these fandoms out there. Those

674
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: like Brittany people were like I was always Team Debbie

675
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you're not making me feel good by

676
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: saying you were anti my friends. And by the way,

677
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: this was the other confusing thing. I'm like, you can

678
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: own multiple records and like multiple socks. Why are we

679
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: picking You could love one hundred artists, you could love

680
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: a million artists, and one gets to be number one

681
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: every single week of the year. Yeah, like there's room

682
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: for all of us. That's how I always felt, and

683
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: I always felt like she and I were so different,

684
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: like we had different roots, different musical roots. And we

685
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: did play it out though. In our hit Sci Fi

686
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: I remember that Mega Python versus Gatoroid where we did

687
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: a like Dynasty ask food fight. I remember you get

688
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: in a fight. Yeah, we do a big food fight

689
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: scene and we were under a table having like just

690
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: thrown pies at each other's in hot dresses, giggling. We

691
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: were just like, oh my god, this is so because

692
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: people were always like, we want you to collaborate. No,

693
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: we didn't collaborate on a song we did. We were

694
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: like food. Yeah, we were like, let's just do the

695
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 1: most insane kid cheaping we could. Possibly the first time

696
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: they would actually you know, hung out. I mean that

697
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: was like probably the most time we'd spent together, and

698
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: then we did I think it was after that we

699
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: did a tour together. And we're kind of like the

700
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: sisters who know how different they are. So we'll get

701
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: together and we'll be like, you know, and we can

702
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: bond and connect and then we'll be like, Okay, you're

703
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: going about your life now and I'm going about my life,

704
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: and we're super different, but we are very different, like

705
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: I mean your personalities, everything about yours. Like, but I

706
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: could see this sisterhood. We have a sisterhood. We do.

707
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: We support one another. And yeah, I just always remember too,

708
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: like my mom being protective over her because my mom

709
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I hate that there's this

710
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: young girl on the road without a female with her. Yea.

711
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: She was always very like bothered by that. And so

712
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: if she would remember being in the UK and Tiffany

713
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: wasn't feeling well, I remember my mom really I'm literally

714
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: going to cry, but I remember my mom literally putting

715
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: her arm around her, saying like if you need anything,

716
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm here's everyone's mom. She felt that way, she really did. Yeah,

717
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: and she's a mother of four girls, so to see

718
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: a girl by herself a year younger than me in

719
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 1: a foreign country without a female figure with her, was

720
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: like hard for her to watch. Yeah, And speaking of

721
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: your mom, and she was very instrumental and fighting for

722
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: you to produce your own music right from the beginning

723
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: and writing that. How important was that for you as

724
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: a new artist And were you even thinking about that

725
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: at such a young age. I mean, it was important

726
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: for me. And I'll tell you why. I'm going to

727
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: go back to that song you mentioned, I Come from

728
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: America from the radio contest because Celine Dion was big

729
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: in Canada. There were these these record company people in

730
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: Canada that flew me and my mom out and wanted

731
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: to record I Come from America. But in a different style.

732
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: It went from like a samba tune to man eater.

733
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: It was like dun dud, I come from America. Come.

734
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, I walk into the studio and

735
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is this song? Because my songwriter heart

736
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: was like, I Come from America is not a hit

737
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: radio song. It's a samba salsa song that won a

738
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: radio contest. And I always said, as a producer served

739
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: the song, you don't try to make it something it's not.

740
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: It's weird to me, and so I always had a

741
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: vision for what I wanted something to sound like, and

742
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: so she was protecting that vision, which was so amazing

743
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: to me. I mean, to have that musicality at such

744
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: it took me years in the studio to really understand

745
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: how to produce a song, and just by living it,

746
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: I mean, being just so new right out of the gate,

747
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: and you just already knew exactly how a song should

748
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: be presented. I could hear, I still do. I hear arrangements,

749
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: I hear string lines, I hear so it's a matter

750
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: of like just getting them out and communicating them to

751
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: whether you're working with a string arranger or the horn

752
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: section or the programmer. So I was very empowered by realizing,

753
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: like all is that it's communicating to people what you're

754
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: hearing in your head. And by the way, you don't

755
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: even need to be a musician. If you can kind

756
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: of hum the vague melody, then the arranger can take

757
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: that and go oh this, and you can go no,

758
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: make that no, go up. More So, like I like

759
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: to take the mystery out of it for people to

760
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: empower them to say, like, if you're an artist and

761
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: you hear something in your head try to find people

762
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: who are going to support that and not go Well,

763
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: you can't do because you didn't go to Berkeley, you

764
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, there's plenty of people in

765
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: their garages right now proving that theory wrong. Well, and

766
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: records are meant to be beaten, right, and you still

767
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: hold the record two times over the youngest person to write,

768
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: produce everything a number one song on the Billboard charts.

769
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: Are you surprised that that record hasn't been broken because

770
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: of all this young talent that people are being trained

771
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: now at three years old, I know, I know. Yeah,

772
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: I'm the youngest female still, Soldier Boy became the youngest male.

773
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: But I feel like our birthdays were like a couple

774
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: of months apart. You know, Kissy through the phone, which

775
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: was great, and I think he really did that record

776
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: in his garage by himself and all that, and it

777
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: was a great record. And yeah, so like being the

778
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: youngest female, and of course we have our Taylor Swifts

779
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: who started super young, and and our Billy Eilish is

780
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: rigo Billy Eilish, but yeah, they're doing it by itself.

781
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,479
Speaker 1: Like here's the thing. So I remember in a meeting

782
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: with a publishing company because I was like, I want

783
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: to write for other people, and they're like, here's the truth.

784
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: People don't like. It's so weirdly hard for people to

785
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: accept that people can write a song by themselves anymore,

786
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: Like it happens in country, Like sure Richard Marks is

787
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: still doing it, but like very few people do it,

788
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: and they've kind of almost brainwashed people. The system has

789
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: told people like you need to have twelve people in

790
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: your room to write songs. It's weird. It's kind of

791
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: unfair because if you know these three people, you're just

792
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: on the beaverse. You're doing this course over here, and

793
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: then they bring like the best of the best of

794
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: just those little elements of a song. I'm like, well

795
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: that's cheating now. Listen. I wrote like I wrote a

796
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: scene in my Hallmark movie about this, because I play

797
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: this like the pop star fallen on hard times, teaching

798
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: music to kids, and I'm telling the kids, oh yeah,

799
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: the girl walking by delivering coffee goes hey, and they're like,

800
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: you're a writer on the song. We're using it right,

801
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: and so but the top to bottom melody chre sitting

802
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: at a piano in the room by yourself thing is

803
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: like more rare than I ever thought. And listen, my

804
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: ego loves holding this record. I get to hear the

805
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: voice of God before my concerts. Oh, youngest female and

806
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: music history. And I'm like, somebody please break my record.

807
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: I keep saying I want to do a show called

808
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: come on, Let's produce a call break my record. Yeah,

809
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: I would love to mentor the next little girl. That's

810
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: a great idea gonna break that record because you know

811
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good handing off, I'm good passing and

812
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: talking about that after the break, you have my number?

813
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: All right? Sorry, I mean I could talk to you

814
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: for like fifty hours, so to me too. We'll do

815
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: a part two. Yeah, we do need to um, but

816
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: I do have some questions from fans out there that

817
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: I need to ask you. All right, So, uh, this

818
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: is from Darling Nikki. Do you have a favorite song

819
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: you wrote but another artist recorded? Oh? So I remember

820
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: writing a song. You're saying, like, has another art has

821
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: recorded one of my songs? So there's been a few

822
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: that um. Uh. Like there's an artist named Anna who

823
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: was on Columbia years ago, Latin artist uh, and I

824
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: wrote a few for her that I really loved. There

825
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: was a song called friendly I don't want to be

826
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: a love of do wanna be just friends? Rules well

827
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 1: meant break, rules meant a bit. I'm like, I haven't

828
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: thought of this song in thirty years, but since and

829
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: you can't, let's just let's not take it so let's

830
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: be friendly, friendly well friendly. Um that was a fun one. Um,

831
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I wrote a song for the group

832
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: the Party on the Group Party called ton of britsh

833
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: which is and Tiffany Damon sang lead on my song.

834
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: I loved working with them. Um. So yeah, there's there's

835
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: a there's several that I've written. There's an artist name

836
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: Joe Beth Taylor in Australia that I wrote for UH

837
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: some of her songs that I really loved. So yeah,

838
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: you still remember the choreography for Electric Youth video. This

839
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: is from Amy Tribes. I love that Amy Tribes I do,

840
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 1: and I do a lot of the original choreography on tour.

841
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: Still like I do a mash up with the song

842
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: feel it's still an Electric Youth, so it's like dump

843
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: dump dune on it. You know. That's like the uh kids,

844
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: how do we do a mashup? But then we go

845
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: into like the full blown chorus of Electric Youth and

846
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: we do the og. But it took me like a

847
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: week to learn that choreography from Barry Later, the choreographer,

848
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Speaker 1: like the dancers, aren't it in a day. But I'm

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Speaker 1: a slow choreography learner. That's a fun fact. I'm not

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Speaker 1: as type as he thinks. All right, so give us

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Speaker 1: some frostages. By the way, you're our first non boy

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Speaker 1: bander on the show. Yes, first extra frosting. Okay, do

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Speaker 1: you know what I love about this so much? I'm

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00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: feeling a universe message coming to me because I've always

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Speaker 1: wanted to make Rosemary Clooney's biography Girl Singer into a

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Speaker 1: movie because Rosemary Clooney was the only girl invited to

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Speaker 1: hang out with the rat Pack. Yes she was, and

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Speaker 1: I'm that girl. I feel like I'm that You're the

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Speaker 1: new Rosemary Clooney. I'm at like, you know, similar career

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Speaker 1: with the acting and the music. And they started at sixteen.

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Speaker 1: She was on the road with her sister. I mean

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Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, she did have a big dramatic meltdown

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Speaker 1: like later in her life, which, by the way, I

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Speaker 1: also understand, Well, you're just coming I'm sure maybe I'll

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Speaker 1: just play that out in the Rosemary Clooney movie. And

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Speaker 1: I tend to like so when I feel that breakdown

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Speaker 1: moment coming on, I tend to retreat. I go, oh god,

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Speaker 1: I'm about to fall apart me get me away from

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Speaker 1: my phone and things. Before we let you go, we

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Speaker 1: need to know what you're binging, watching, listening to right now.

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Speaker 1: Give us some tips out there of what we should

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Speaker 1: be binging on TV right now. Oh my god, well

873
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Speaker 1: the mass singer. Obviously, I'm trying to think. Okay, this

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Speaker 1: is a fun one. And this is not recent, but

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Speaker 1: I watched all thirteen episodes of the Spanish telenovella Cable Girls. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I've heard about that the English dubbing like voice artists

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Speaker 1: are amazing, Like they did an amazing job. So I'm

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Speaker 1: going to just suggest if you really want to go

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Speaker 1: deep and it's a it's a it's an investment. And

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Speaker 1: then I recently watched the movie The Wife Um and

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Price Yeah, and I was like, this is one

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Speaker 1: of the most phenomenally written and active and close movies

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. And musically Blessing Offer. Yes,

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Speaker 1: his real first name is Blessing. It's O F O R.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember how or where I heard him, but

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Speaker 1: I actually had a phone conversation with him the other

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Speaker 1: day because I DMed him, and I'm like, I'm obsessed

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Speaker 1: with you. Go to Nashville and work with him. He's

889
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Speaker 1: like in the Christian lane, but he's much, He's beyond.

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Speaker 1: He's like a real storyteller, soul singer, um pianist, songwriter.

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Speaker 1: Do you get to Nashville a lot because it's like

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Speaker 1: the writing capital? I know I don't, but I'm really

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Speaker 1: do for a trip there, but Blessing is going to

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Speaker 1: be the one to bring me back there. I'm actually

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Speaker 1: going this weekend. Oh my god, I'm going to the

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Speaker 1: Randall opreed. It's gonna be so much fun. Well, my love,

897
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Speaker 1: it has been so great to catch up with amazing.

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Speaker 1: I know we love having you. Like I said, you

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Speaker 1: are our first honorary member of this not so secret

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Speaker 1: boy band Society. Exactly will be in the mail record

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Speaker 1: the first female might not make actually do have frosted

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Speaker 1: tips a breakage from recently getting it done too many times? Well,

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Speaker 1: congratulations on all your continued success. Like you said, I

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Speaker 1: do feel like a whole new chapter is starting for you,

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Speaker 1: and I cannot wait to see what you're doing in

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Speaker 1: the future. Congratulations as singer, and uh yeah, I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to see you do the Rosemary Clooney movie because

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00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: that needs to happen. That needs to happen. And I

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Speaker 1: need to do manager and play my mother. Yeah that

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Speaker 1: might be big. Like I want to win an oscar

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Speaker 1: on behalf of my mother because she was a powerhouse

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00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: and I was there so I can play her. You're

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Speaker 1: so creative, you can make it happen. It's it's like

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Speaker 1: a big It's like there's like a five year plan

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Speaker 1: happening for all the ideas churning, but too many ideas.

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Speaker 1: But you know who cares. I'm going I'm wrong. Love,

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Speaker 1: thank you? How can I love? Be in touch with

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Speaker 1: you out there? Um oh at Debbie Gibson everywhere on

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Speaker 1: social media and Debbie Gibson Official dot com. See if

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Speaker 1: my body remembers Encore Tours coming to a city near you,

921
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Speaker 1: and if not, just up a flight because it's a

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Speaker 1: great time. But it's worth it. It is worth it,

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Speaker 1: all right, Get you out there, Okay, Love you too, boy,

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Speaker 1: Miss Debbie Gibson. What a great woman. What a treat

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Speaker 1: she is. She was growing, she probably used snail buggers

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Speaker 1: on her face. Well, I mean she does look hazing.

927
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Speaker 1: I mean she looks like she's in her twenties. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: So she might she might have like the founder youth,

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Speaker 1: might be snail juice, Yeah, snail burgers. Shouldn't we miss

930
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Speaker 1: copper tunity to see if she knew all about that?

931
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Speaker 1: And then we forgot to ask her, and then she

932
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Speaker 1: gets real upset, like, how did you? How did you

933
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Speaker 1: know my secret? Now I'm sure sleep with snails on

934
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Speaker 1: my face. He's going to write the jingle for the product,

935
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Speaker 1: make it more writing. I've totally forget about how she's

936
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Speaker 1: such a great writer, especially as a kid. She's perfect

937
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Speaker 1: for poofoo. This whole show is going to be written

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Speaker 1: by all of our guests on this show. I kind

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Speaker 1: of really liked her America song. I know, I know.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, that's all the show I have for

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Speaker 1: you today. Thanks so much for listening to our very

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Speaker 1: special extra frosting episode. Um and yet, I don't know

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Speaker 1: who's on the next shop, but we'll see. It's gonna

944
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Speaker 1: be a surprise. It won't be such a surprise because

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Speaker 1: we're gonna announce it on our Instagram account, which you

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Speaker 1: can follow, Frosted Tips with Lance and then of course, uh,

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Speaker 1: what's your Michael Urchin art? Well, yeah, she right, yeah

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Speaker 1: it is. You had to think about it a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I've had a little bit too much coffee. I have

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Speaker 1: to say. Okay, yeah, oh gosh, enough, all right, be

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Speaker 1: good to each other, don't drink and drive out there,

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Speaker 1: and remember stay frosted. Yeah, hey, thanks for listening. Follow

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Speaker 1: us on Instagram at Frosted Tips with Lance and Michael

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Speaker 1: Tursen Art and at Lance Bass for all your pop

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Speaker 1: culture needs, and make sure to write us a review

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