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Speaker 1: Welcome in to All of Ball, the all Basketball podcast

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Speaker 1: here in the Herd Podcast Network. I'm Doug Gottlie. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you use describe. Obviously, there's the Lebron situation, which

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Speaker 1: we pushed back recording this as much as we could.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday morning in Los Angeles. Lebron James just made

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Speaker 1: it unofficially official in opting out of a deal that

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Speaker 1: everybody knew he would opt out of. It would make

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Speaker 1: no sense to opt in and to leave the control

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Speaker 1: the hands of the Cleveland Cavaliers. He opts out, he's

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Speaker 1: a free agent. Doesn't mean he can't return to the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Cavaliers, but it does limit the possible destinations. So

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Speaker 1: we pushed this back as much as we could because

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Speaker 1: we want to clarity. What happens with Kauai, what happens

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Speaker 1: with Paul George, what happens with Lebron? Do they all

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Speaker 1: get together in l all get to that in a second. Also,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk just a little bit of some recruiting

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Speaker 1: on the n c A circuit, only in that there

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Speaker 1: has been a proposed massive change, massive change or college

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Speaker 1: basketball and how the summer circuit works out. Um, and well,

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Speaker 1: I will have what I think is a short but

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Speaker 1: very interesting discussion to which hopefully make you think. Many

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Speaker 1: of you who are my friends who listen to this podcast,

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Speaker 1: you're like, dude, this is the best way I catch

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Speaker 1: up on NBA. I get a little college hoops, and

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Speaker 1: then I'm on my way. Hope this works out for you.

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Speaker 1: So if you're on your way to lake to the beach,

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Speaker 1: the mountains, or you're taking your kid to a camp

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Speaker 1: basketball camp, um, or you're you're going to a basketball

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Speaker 1: tournament wherever you're going, take this with you and throughout

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Speaker 1: the summer work can continue to update you on college

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Speaker 1: NBA stories. And one of my kind of goals is

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Speaker 1: I'm lining up guests to tell us their personal kind

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Speaker 1: of basketball journey and some of the things they did

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Speaker 1: along the way, people who taught them along the way,

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Speaker 1: words of wisdom for for parents of rising basketball stars,

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Speaker 1: or for the basketball players themselves. So you listen to

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Speaker 1: what your kids you're like, Man, listen to this thing.

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Speaker 1: It's really really interesting. Let's start with Lebron, who continues

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Speaker 1: to control without kind of controlling. Right. It's always been

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Speaker 1: my thing with Lebron, which is, hey, you you're the Godfather.

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Speaker 1: It's your favorite movie. Do you like to you like

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Speaker 1: to be the guy who people come in and kiss

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Speaker 1: the ring and ask favors for. Can you control without controlling?

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Speaker 1: The one issue I have with Lebron is there are

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Speaker 1: things that he could control if he wanted to that

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Speaker 1: when things go awry or a miss, he simply says, hey,

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't me, you know. Kyrie Irving gets traded. He

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Speaker 1: tells Rachel Nichols. I called management. I called, you know,

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Speaker 1: our general manager, and I told him not to do

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Speaker 1: this deal. Meanwhile, why don't you call Kyrie Irving? Kyrie

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Speaker 1: says he wants to stay. He will stay, or says Kyrie,

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Speaker 1: let's say one more year, dude, then you can do

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Speaker 1: whatever you want. Then they'll trade you. But Kyrie Irving

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Speaker 1: was tired of the circus, was tired of the blame

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Speaker 1: you get if you don't perform, and nobody pays attention

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Speaker 1: to Lebron. I think he's just tired of all that

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Speaker 1: can put blame on our uncle, we can put blame

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Speaker 1: on the medical staff. I think though, some of it

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Speaker 1: comes down to there's a point in every person's life

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Speaker 1: and oftentimes, UM, the place you leave behind is going

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Speaker 1: left other jobs and at least one of the places

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Speaker 1: they have. By many people's estimation, Gawain learn is the

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Speaker 1: um as much as I think what you hear when

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Speaker 1: reading different columns. These are stories that are planted. You

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Speaker 1: they're in there because that's what the Spurs wants you

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Speaker 1: tell me Boston is not trading Kyrie Irving and they're

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Speaker 1: not really trading Jayson Tatum. Why Because one, they have

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Speaker 1: Tatum under contract for three more years at a rookie salary. Too.

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Speaker 1: They know Jayson Tatum is completely locked in mentally to

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Speaker 1: gave it healing time. All signs point to the knee

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Speaker 1: atmosphere than that of the Cleveland Cavaliers. Right, there's there's

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Speaker 1: those underrated stars, totally business like, shows up every day,

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Speaker 1: They work out in the same gym, but it's not

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Speaker 1: ah from they're not moving on from Gordon Hayward. And

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Speaker 1: summer guys sitting down, high school coaches sitting down, coaches

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Speaker 1: sitting down, take some recruiting guys who've been around for

426
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Speaker 1: a while, and you know, and some serious time looking

427
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: into this because I think we all agree that some

428
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: changes need to be made. We all love the game,

429
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: we all see that there's problems, right, but it seems

430
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 1: to me that there's this rush to come up with

431
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 1: a solution, to to win a press conference or make

432
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: a cool headline or something like that, and that's being

433
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Speaker 1: rushed versus getting it right. And I don't know what

434
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 1: getting it right yet is, but I do think, you know,

435
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 1: maybe opening up some in June on and still having

436
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 1: some of the summer stuff, Like let's find a happy

437
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 1: medium between the two and start going from there. Yeah. Look,

438
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 1: the thing about the camps, which I think is is interesting.

439
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: I coached at the Pangos camp, but it's not really

440
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: a camp, it's it's just it's organized pickup ball. So

441
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 1: I do. And so I think one of the things

442
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: you get with that committee is even some of those

443
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Speaker 1: guys that are on that committee that that have, you know,

444
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 1: the Mike Montgomeryes of the world, Like when they say camp,

445
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, I want that old five school, five

446
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: star mentality. What you're doing ations in the morning, you know,

447
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 1: in stations drill work, and then you play at night,

448
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 1: which I actually would love. I think. I do think

449
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: that there are some there's some teaching, there's some skill

450
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 1: that's that's that's not being taught enough. I do think,

451
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: like I've been to Nikes Academy, what is that the

452
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: Skills Academy where I do think they teach some of

453
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: those stuff, and they do have some of those NBA workouts.

454
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: The question is can you do it on a larger

455
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 1: scale and get kids to buy in and get coaches

456
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: to evaluate on the drills and the ability to be taught,

457
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: the desire to be taught as much as how they play.

458
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: That That's a that's a huge question to which I

459
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: don't know. Like, look, if I was a head coach

460
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: in college, I'd actually like to see the drill sessions

461
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 1: because I want to see if guys pay attention, if

462
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: guys improve, what's their footwork like now met more than anything,

463
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 1: if you tell them, hey, we want to reverse pivot here,

464
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: ripped through, go to the baseline, jump stop and then

465
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Speaker 1: make a pass, you know, across the baseline, Uh to

466
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Speaker 1: the guy who's you know, who's you know getting a

467
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Speaker 1: hammer screen in the corner. Can they can they make those?

468
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Speaker 1: Can they can they do the mental gymnasts six to

469
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Speaker 1: do it, because that's you're gonna have to coach him

470
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: how much coach? But but but we don't do that.

471
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: We just roll it out and play. And I think

472
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: that's to the detriment of everybody involved. But it's the

473
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: easiest thing to do, and it's the easiest way to evaluate.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you another reason why I think we

475
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Speaker 1: don't do that, Doug, is I've been to the camp

476
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: in the past where they do that, the old Nankee

477
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: All American Camp in Indianapolis, the where they used to

478
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Speaker 1: have to set up abc D when they would have

479
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: a little bit of skill stuff under arm American Camp,

480
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: when when they would have skills as you know what happened,

481
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Speaker 1: the majority of the coaches show up for him because

482
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: they say they don't want to watch guys who do

483
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: drills right. And then also we're talking about these camp

484
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 1: systems with anywhere from five hundred to a thousand kids.

485
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: How many courts are there going to be, how many

486
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: places are going to be set up to handle this?

487
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: And then you know, let's see coach k built So,

488
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: Royal Williams, John Calipari watch these drills when they may

489
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Speaker 1: have one guy on a court with fifty guys and

490
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: they got to sit through the other forty nine guys

491
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: that they could care less about. Right, So that's that's

492
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: when we're getting into the interesting. But I agree, you know,

493
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Speaker 1: I think the key is finding balance and stopping pointing

494
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: fingers at everybody and and saying, you know, if you

495
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: want to get this threat, we all got to partner

496
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: this and we've all got to work together, rather than

497
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: it's almost kind of like they're creating these size and

498
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: you're on the high school side or you're on the

499
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Speaker 1: summer side, And I think it's such a wrong way

500
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Speaker 1: of going about it. You know, we should be trying

501
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: to come together and all this rather than separate everyone.

502
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Speaker 1: Eric Bossy joining us um uh So, Okay. It's the

503
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Speaker 1: one thing that I do think people get caught up

504
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: on is it's a proposal. Okay, it's not a new rule.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the proposal ends up being enacted, you know,

506
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Speaker 1: I don't. I guess I don't think so. And the

507
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Speaker 1: is And I say that is because all the guys

508
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: I've talked to it seems so confused about what it

509
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: exactly means and don't seem happy about it. Don't seem

510
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: happy about it being a proposal. But I've seen stranger

511
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: things happen, stranger things happening. I can't imagine that every

512
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: school is going to be on board with us, but

513
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how many schools have to pass to

514
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: go through? Is you know it's a simple you know,

515
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: one more vote gets it through? Or does it have

516
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: to be our percentage? These are the things we didn't know.

517
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: But I guess the status is the NABC has proposal,

518
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: They're gonna put it to their board, their boards gonna

519
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: vote on it in what August I think, and then

520
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: if they like it, then they take it to the

521
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 1: Condolas of Rights Commission and he recommends changes get made

522
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 1: and things happen. You know, if you speak to people

523
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: with the n C, hey, it's it's it's even split there.

524
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: There's some people dancy or a gung hope on doing this,

525
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: and there's some in compliance or sitting back saying, hey,

526
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: hold on, wait a second, how on earth are we

527
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: gonna staff? How are people are gonna pay for it?

528
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: Like one of the most hilarious thing is that thought

529
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: that schools are gonna bid on this process, you know,

530
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: running a camp for as many kids as they're talking

531
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: about it's gonna be incredible. Well, there's there's a bunch

532
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: of a bunch of other things. They want NBA assistance

533
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: and G league coaches to coach this thing, Like, Okay,

534
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: when are you gonna do that? You can't do it

535
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: in July because in July they have summer league. Right,

536
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: you can't do it in June because they're still playing

537
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: or they're evaluating players. You do it in August, that's

538
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: their only month off. When you there's a lot there's

539
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: a lot of flaws. That's why I'm I'm one of

540
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: these people like, look, I think it's a there's a

541
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: little bit of knee jerk to it. It's a dramatic

542
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 1: up people. It's not crazy to think that they'll do

543
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: something crazy just to say they did something crazy. My

544
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: guests would be that it gets when they start to

545
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: dive into it, they're like, wow, this is a lot

546
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: harder than we thought. Let's just say this was our

547
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,239
Speaker 1: proposal and the coaches shot it down, so that if

548
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: something goes wrong again, we can blame the coaches. That's

549
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: the easiest thing to do. Yeah. Yeah, And that's that's

550
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: exactly basically what I wrote last week in a column.

551
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, are some of these things they're

552
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: talking about worrying me a little bit because I think

553
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: there's not enough discussion being made. Yes, but I think

554
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: there's been a collective freak out. Well, we don't even

555
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: know what's happening yet, and so we're kind of putting

556
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: the we're kind of getting ahead of ourselves on all

557
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: of this, all right, kind of quickly here, Um, you're

558
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: in McDonald's American Voter and at rivals dot Com you

559
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: do your rankings. Trayvon Duval was where going and coming

560
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: out of a senior year. Oh, I think number six

561
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: in the country, but he was our number one ranks

562
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: point card and he goes undrafted undraft night. What was

563
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: your reaction, Um, I was surprised. I even throughout the

564
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: draft process when teams would call to ask about him,

565
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: you know, I was able to get the sense that

566
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: there were worries about him and that his stock could

567
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: be in trouble. And I remember having some some talks

568
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: with some people who were in one level or another

569
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: kind of connected to Traylon and saying, hey, look, you know,

570
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: giving me some feedback here. There's some to turns about

571
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: him and how well he'll adapt to all the all

572
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: the things that go in the NBA, actual places that

573
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: run a lot of plays and stuff like that. And

574
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: there's worries about either his attitude on the attitudes of

575
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: people around them, and if that's gonna be worth dealing with.

576
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: And it's always a fine thing because I have such

577
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: a different relationship with these kids, right Like for me,

578
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: tray Home was never anything but nice. It's very easy

579
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: to deal with. But there's another side of the story

580
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: out there that says differently, and it's going to be

581
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: interesting to see what happens here with him. And you know,

582
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: it's just been kind of a interesting draft cycle for

583
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: Duke Gayway between Trayvon going on drafted and then you've

584
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: got with Carter, Carter's window, Carter's mom. Yeah, the window

585
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: Carter's mom thing. Wasn't she the one trying to get

586
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: him to stay at Duke and and anyone in their

587
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: right mind would have wanted Marvin Bagley to leave high school.

588
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: You're early to make them a better team. A matter

589
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: of fact, I believe that the incoming freshman class collectively

590
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: talked him into leaving high school a year early. What

591
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: what is it? What on earth is she talking about? Why?

592
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: Why are they burning a bridge when they don't have to?

593
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's a good question that brings up a

594
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: lot of things. The number one assumption in this is

595
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: that the Carter family was somehow completely in the blue

596
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: about all this, which I find hard to believe. You

597
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: know how much these families talk in the in the

598
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: document in the dark yet Yeah, yeah, I haven't in

599
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: the dark story these families, they talked to each other

600
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: non stop. They know what's going on. Like since the

601
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: day Marvin Bagley left Arizona for Sarah Canyon, everyone's been

602
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: talking about, Oh, he's gonna move up class, He's gonna

603
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: move up with class now. His father denied and denied

604
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: and denied. It, said, no, it's not gonna happen, not

605
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's right until that month or so before

606
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: it happened. But you know, they had to know when

607
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: they were recruiting Marvin that hey, there's a chance that

608
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: he could do this now. I guess the only rub

609
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: is that if they want to coach k and the

610
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: staff and said, hey, we know you're recruiting Marvin. That's cool.

611
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: He's a great player. Won't allows no problem playing with him.

612
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: And but we want to know could he be coming

613
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: in a year early? If they told them no, then

614
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: that's where a problem would would go, because they should,

615
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: you know, they at least do enough to know, Hey,

616
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: hold on here, there's there's talk they're saying they can't

617
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: do it yet. But yeah, if he wants to come

618
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: into early year early, we're gonna take him to year

619
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: early because no one's gonna say no to Eric Bossy

620
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: really quickly. I got a minute left for you, Okay,

621
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: Is Barrett the number one prospect for next year's draft?

622
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: Far and away? I don't know if it's far and away,

623
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: but I think he has to be right now because

624
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: he's he's very complete, he works, and if we want

625
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: to talk about accomplishments of kids up to this point,

626
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: he's got one of them. And arguably maybe especially in

627
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: the in the in the dot com era of basketball recruiting.

628
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: He's got arguably the most accomplished high school career of

629
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: anyone to go, and he seems to check all the

630
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: boxes everything. You're looking for the new things. But you know,

631
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: the biggest key is going to be if he gets

632
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: that jump shot right, it's probably gonna be no question.

633
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: There's the jump shot still a question mark, and there'll

634
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: be some question by the end of the year. All right,

635
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: later in the summer, I want to have a discussion

636
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 1: about Zion Williamson, who, of course everybody loves because he dunks.

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Speaker 1: But how good a basketball player will he be? Can

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Speaker 1: he become a face up guy? Can he guard anybody?

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Speaker 1: Can he lose some of that weight? But in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: keep doing what you do. You do a great job.

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Speaker 1: Eric Bossey. Follow his work rivals dot com, follow on face, Facebook,

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Speaker 1: or on Twitter at boss Hoops. All right, so what

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Speaker 1: do we know? I don't know. I mean, really, you

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Speaker 1: want me to tell you? I know unequivocally. All right.

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Speaker 1: What I know on equivocally is Celtics aren't trading Carrier.

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Speaker 1: It's not happy. I don't think they're trading trading Jayson

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Speaker 1: Tatum either. I think they really like him, do it?

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Speaker 1: Do they think he'll be a super star. They were

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Speaker 1: even surprised by how good he was once they had

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Speaker 1: all those injuries. He everaged fortunate game and they thought

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Speaker 1: there would be a drop off, just fatigue. There was

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Speaker 1: no mental fatigue, no physical fatigues. They'll work to be done.

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Speaker 1: I think they think they have a championship team. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean they wouldn't go after Kawhi Leonard, but they're

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Speaker 1: not trading one of their stars to get quite letter.

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Speaker 1: They'll trade other stuff together. So I think he's going

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Speaker 1: to the Lakers, but I don't think he's going to

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Speaker 1: If he's going to the Celtics, it would not be

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Speaker 1: it would It would be out of spite And that's

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Speaker 1: just a bad, dumb way to trade him. And I

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Speaker 1: think the Lakers can pay a little bit more than

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Speaker 1: then when anybody else is willing to pay for a

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Speaker 1: rental player. Uh. I still operate under the premise that

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Speaker 1: Lebron James is going to l a beat, one because

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have Kauai and two he can talk Paul

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Speaker 1: George into it. If he was gonna stay in Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: he should have operated all season long or even the

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Speaker 1: playoffs longer after the playoffs, in a way in which

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Speaker 1: he would find the pieces to put together in order

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Speaker 1: to stay in Cleveland. If he says he's staying, it

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Speaker 1: would generate a ton of interest in Cleveland trade beading

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Speaker 1: away their pick, or Cleveland making a trade now in

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Speaker 1: order to get another player or two to go with him.

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Speaker 1: As it stands, Cleveland's acting as if he's leaving, because

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Speaker 1: he probably is. Make sure you download what you've done,

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