1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. What up? Welcome in Dan Patrick Show, Fox 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Sports Radio with Jason McIntyre. I'm Doug Gottlieb, And uh, 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: let's just kind of get to dive back in. We've 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: been talking a lot of NBA hoop, we haven't gotten 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: to the NFL, and uh, this story about the possibility 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: of Bill Belichick platooning his quarterbacks might probably platooning Ken 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: What are you laughing? Come on, Bill Belichick's gonna go 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: with the platoon. I would say, let's like, listen, Do 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: I think some of this is putting themselves in a 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: position to be successful against his former assistant Brian Flores 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: where you don't know what's coming. Yeah? But do I 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: think that there's a distinct possibility that one of the 14 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 1: quarterbacks not named Cam Newton is a starter because Cam 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: Newton is going to be slow to pick up a 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: completely new style, completely new offense without any sort of 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: preseason games, and they could put a package of plays 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: in for him. Yeah. I think that's actually a possibility. 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: Whether you want to call it platooning or how long 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: it lasts, that's up to you. But I don't think 21 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: this is a year unlike any other to go with 22 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: no preseason games, no preseason games, and you know, you 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: pick up a former MVP for roughly a million dollars 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: a year, Like there's a lot of he's had what 25 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: six guys opt out this year, but there's a lot 26 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: of different things going on in New England. So a 27 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: guy who's they've they've tried every they've done everything like that, 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: that's what's interesting. I talked to Sean McVay last year. 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: This time. We used to my radio show, Doug got 30 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: Leaves show. We go to usually go to training camps, Rams, Raiders, Rams, 31 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys and Oxnard usually and then the Chargers Rams and 32 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: the Chargers as people know now and hard Knocks, well 33 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: usually they're like five miles apart. Now they're obviously a 34 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: city apart. But I talked to Sean McVay and he's like, 35 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: you know, the reason we lost in the Super Bowl, 36 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: and this is again in a year and a year ago, 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: was they had an awesome game plan and then when 38 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: we had an injury or they had an injury, they 39 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: changed their game plan. By the time we adjusted to 40 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: what they were doing, they were doing something else, like 41 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: they could be in a four to three and then 42 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're in the three to four. 43 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: So I unders people scoff at the idea of having 44 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: a platoon system at quarterback. But I would say, one, 45 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: it's a Patriots too, It's twenty twenty anything as possible, 46 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: So I would totally agree with what you know you 47 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: and mcvaghe were saying, like Patriots are one of the 48 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: best teams reinventing themselves with Belichick over the last two decades, 49 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: They've gone from being a defense first team. Remember then 50 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: they went to the two tight ends with Gronk and 51 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: that guy who we will talk about. Uh, they were 52 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Rnandez Okay, all right, then we got they they 53 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: had the running game member. They was it Corey Dylan. 54 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: They had they had they had a really strong did 55 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: not Corey dial when they first they had been Jarvis Grant. Yeah, 56 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: they would just they would pivot around. Brady was a 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: game manager for crying out loud, and then you get 58 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: Randy Moss and Belichick is great at pivoting. But the 59 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: one constant that didn't change was Tom Brady. And I 60 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: don't know, I just feel like Cam Newton walks in 61 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 1: that room he is a big six five commanding presence 62 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: who has won an MVP Award. He's very popular among 63 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: the players, and you know, not to knock Jarrett Sidham. 64 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: He's just a guy who hasn't really done anything in 65 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: the NFL, and he's just not the kind of guy 66 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: you you love the analogy of like five guys are 67 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: going out to hang out and the alpha always has 68 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: the key. He's like, Oh, I'm driving, I'm running the show. 69 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: And that's Cam Newton in that locker room. Hey, what's up, guys, 70 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: how are you doing? You know, he's just an okay, 71 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: but a cool guy who I think gets it. Now. 72 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: Does he understand the Belichick system, That's another story, but 73 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: I have a hard time. Do you remember Belichick? You 74 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: remember when Carson Palmer played first played for the Raiders. 75 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: Do you remember the Carson Palmer high I think those 76 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: were my post college year. I was in a no, no, 77 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: no, no no, no no. When did you finished in college? 78 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: I got out in like two thousand and two thousand. 79 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer was with the Raiders. That wasn't no, no, no 80 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: no much much. Yeah, well I was still in a 81 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: college fog five years after school. So Carson Palmer. For 82 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: people forgot Carson Palmer was with the Bengals. He signed 83 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: the biggest contract in the history of the sport. They 84 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: were getting ready to play the Pittsburgh Steelers in the 85 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: playoffs at home, and Keemo Van Olhoffen rolled up on 86 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: him right and towards acl right, so that he missed 87 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: a year. He comes back and then at the two 88 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: thousand and ten at the end of the two thousand 89 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: and ten season, he had been promised a bunch of 90 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: different things. They hadn't been delivered, and he was like, 91 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm done, I retire, I will not play for Cincinnati anymore. 92 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: So they call his bluff and he sure enough sits. 93 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: The Raiders have a desperate need for a quarterback. They 94 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: trade for him midyear and without training camp, without really 95 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: knowing the system. He comes in his first week and 96 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: then his second week as a starter. It's a disaster. 97 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: He was terrible. And Carson Palmer is a borderline Hall 98 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: of Fame caliber quarterback if you look at the success 99 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: when he was healthy, in the longevity of that success 100 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: and what he didn't you really want an MVP with 101 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinal right, So he's but my borderline there'd 102 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: be a discussion there. He probably doesn't get it's a 103 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: quick discussion, Okay, um, But my point was, like Cam 104 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 1: Newton's not an idiot, right, and he I'm sure knows. 105 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: You know, what the worst thing in the world could 106 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: be is if I'm coming off of shoulder where people 107 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: think I can't throw a football, which is what people 108 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: think that the throwing motion has changed. It doesn't hold up. 109 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 1: I have multiple leg injuries, I'm in a new system, 110 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: and I go out there before I'm ready, Like, you 111 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: don't want what is the point, Like it is a marathon, 112 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: not a sprint. I need to be I need to 113 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: be the best version of myself. And I know, yeah, 114 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: by the way they're they're kind of patching some of 115 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: the offensive line issues as well on that team. You know, 116 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: if if you're not ready, you don't want to play 117 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: until you are ready, no matter how much better you 118 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: are than now, that may be giving Geared Stidham an 119 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: opportunity that you don't want to give them. That may 120 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: be giving Brian hoy Or an opportunity you don't want 121 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: to give them. But I think that's actually a better quote. 122 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: Unless you have absolute grasp of everything you're doing. Shouldn't 123 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: go out there, shouldn't go ahead. I here, here's the 124 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: here's the TV analogy. And a couple of my dear 125 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: friends are women that worked at ESPN and when they 126 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: would get hired ESPO and do this thing to where 127 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 1: they put them on Sports Center for a week before 128 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: they would put them on ESPN News ermin. ESPN News 129 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: used to be, you know, have twenty four hour shows 130 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: and do Sports Center whatever. They would put them on, 131 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: like the big, the big show, like six o'clock Sports Center, 132 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: eleven o'clock sports Center, though maybe not the one am. 133 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: Those always la right, And they would all say the 134 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: same thing. They would all say, like, you know, it 135 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 1: was really enticing when I signed, and I just wasn't 136 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: ready for that. And then you establish kind of a 137 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: reputation of who you are, and now all of a 138 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: sudden you got to fix any of these issues. Now 139 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: they're just throwing you in the deep end and seeing 140 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: if you can swim to the size sink or swim baby. 141 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: And I don't think that's a bet for Cam Newton, 142 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: who's trying to rehab his image among NFL teams. I 143 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: don't think that's the smart courses. Actually I do. I'm 144 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: a big sink or swim guy. Just throw them in 145 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: there even if they're not ready. Especially it applies to me, 146 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: Doug so Um, I get. I listen, I'm with you. 147 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: The fake it to you, make it thing like I've 148 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: made a life out of that. I get. I just 149 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: think in the National Football League, when you've proven yourself 150 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: as an MVP quarterback and been to a super Bowl, 151 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: but then since then, you know your your coach leaves 152 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: takes your back up with him, doesn't take you. Yeah, okay, 153 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: you're the guys in Buffalo weren't interested in you. The 154 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: LA Chargers needed a quarterback, they weren't interested in you. 155 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: Go like through teams and there just wasn't a lot 156 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: of interest. You take an NFL veterans minimum deal and 157 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: you're supermo. You've got You've got to prove the league wrong. 158 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: But the way to do so is not to do 159 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: it until you're absolutely ready. Yeah, but how do you 160 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: know when you're ready? How you know when you've got 161 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: a full grasp of the playbook? Like, I mean, you 162 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: could be waiting all season and then oh yeah, guess what. 163 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: The Patriots don't do well and they're gonna draft the 164 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: guy and thank you for your service, Cam Newton go 165 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: on about your business, and then I don't know if 166 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: he gets another starting job. No, but that's but again, 167 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying, though, is I'm not saying 168 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: you sit there and go like I don't want to play. 169 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: But if you say, like, look, maybe I'm not ready 170 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: to play the whole game, but give me a couple 171 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: of series here. It's my own kind of personal preseason. 172 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: And eventually as I get a better grasp for the 173 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: playbook and you have a better grasp for me playing 174 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: for you. That's the other part is Nelly has he 175 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: not played for them? You know now he is? Yeah, 176 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: they not, but they haven't coached him. They don't really 177 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: know what he does, how he reacts in game situations, 178 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: what the best thing is. And you only get that 179 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: through time and experience and seeing some tape and then 180 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: sitting down and going all right, what can we what 181 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: can we add this week? Have you looked at the 182 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: skill position players he's going to be working with? So 183 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: Sony Michelle's out? They just signed um some some old 184 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: running back. Why Sony Michelle out? He's hurt again? Sony 185 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: Michelle can't stay healthy. And the receiver's Edelman. I think 186 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: he's like thirty four nikkil Harry who could not get 187 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: on the same page with Brady last year, Mohammed Sanu, 188 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: who's um. The tight end is someone named Devin Asasi. 189 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: Like this, This skill position group is bottom eight in 190 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: the NFL right now, I mean, and maybe even bottom five. 191 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: And you got Cam going in there, Like, I don't 192 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: think it's he's set up for success to succeed in 193 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: this offense. I mean, I don't think Sidham is either. 194 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: I've long been disagreeing with this theory that, oh Bill 195 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: Belt tanking for Trevor Lawrence. I think that's nonsense. And 196 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: then you look at the skille posisition players, You're like, 197 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,119 Speaker 1: what the hell have they been doing? I mean, Belichick's 198 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: ego is so big. When Rob Gronkowski left, they decided, 199 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: we're not going to replace him. Top tight end in 200 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: the league, fine, top three, whatever you want. How are 201 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: you We're not even replaced. They didn't even make a 202 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: move on anybody. Wait, but how are you going to 203 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: replace him? Find a really good tight end to bring in? 204 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: They did nothing? But again, I would I mean personally, 205 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: I would have gone after Greg Olsen, you know, but yeah, 206 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: i'llso you have to It does work two ways. Like 207 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: greg Olson has to be interested in you, huh. He 208 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: would have had to have wanted to go there. But right, 209 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: I just think there's something to Belichick's ego and thinking, 210 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: you know what, any quarterback we throw into my system 211 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: is going to succeed. How he ever said that, Well, 212 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: remember Tom Brady would be in the room, in the 213 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: quarterback room, and Belichick would undress him. Hey, I'll go 214 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: get Johnny High School down at the local high school, 215 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: and he'll he can throw this Outpatt held coaching. That's 216 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: that's how that's how they kept it. So everybody gets 217 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: treated saying and so Belichick thinks that he can trot 218 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: out this skill group and win football games. And I 219 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know that anything. I don't think 220 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: that's I could be wrong, but one that's actually been 221 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: proven to be accurate. Right, Like Tom Brady was Tom 222 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: Brady was, but Tom Brady was not great last year? Correct? Um, yeah, 223 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: he was not great. Okay, so he wasn't great. He 224 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: might not even been all that good. Just he's Tom Brady. 225 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: And well, the defense carried them a lot, right, number 226 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: one defensive league right now, they went four, they were like, 227 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: what twelve or thirteen wins? Yeah, yeah, twelve. The problem 228 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: is with that defense, they were easy. Yeah. Now you 229 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: don't have Dante high Tower. Now you don't have I 230 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: think three or four starters on the defense. Yeah. No, 231 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: they're screwed. They're gonna be bad screwed. But but my 232 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: your point is you're like, Okay, you would be confident, 233 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: boarderline arrogant too, if you could in fact continually reinvent 234 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: your team and continue to win your division get to 235 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Right, I'd probably be as confident as Jason 236 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: Tatum is right now with his offensive Jason McIntyre, Doug 237 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: gott leaving for Dan and the Dan Netts. All right, 238 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: let's let's let's get to this. Speaking of the NBA, 239 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: UM Clippers have lost one now, Lakers have lost their 240 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: only playoff game. Bucks are one and one in the playoffs. 241 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: All right, so or no, who are you most concerned for? UM? 242 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: I think the easy answer is Lakers, But to be honest, 243 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: they've only played one game. They had a historically bad 244 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: shooting night. I'm gonna go with the but they've been 245 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: a bad shooting team the entire bubble and frankly most 246 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: of the season. They also have either the greatest or 247 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: second greatest player in NBA history, And I know he's 248 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: not what he was and he doesn't have to lift, 249 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: and he's thirty five. He also nearly won the MVP 250 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: Award this year, will probably be runner up. To be honest, 251 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: I trust Lebron over Paul George and definitely over Kawhi Leonard. 252 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not one to give out gambling advice 253 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: on a show that's not mine, but holy cow, Doug, 254 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: I love the Lakers tonight. What's the number six and 255 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: a half kind of listen. We are going to see 256 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: a max effort defensively from the Lakers. We are going 257 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: to see Lebron again, try to get the guys involved early, 258 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: Danny Green KCP, there's gonna be a quick hook for them. 259 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: If they don't deliver, We'll probably see Dion Waiters, Alex 260 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: carus show. You know, Doug, I gotta say, one of 261 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: the best points you've made in weeks, and you make 262 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: good points often, was when you noted that Caruso pulled 263 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: himself out of Game one at a pivotal moment in 264 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, tugging on his jersey to say, get 265 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: me out. I'm sorry, Caruso. If Lebron sees that video, Bro, 266 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: you play twenty minutes, twenty five minutes, you skipped your 267 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: sister's wedding to stay in the bubble, and you're pulling 268 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: yourself out of Game one with five minutes left because 269 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: you're tired of guarding Damian Lillard. And then Damian came 270 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: down the next possession, dropped a three in his eye. Okay, 271 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: and then Damian just took fire from there. And I 272 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: know Lillard's a superstar right now. And Alex Caruso is 273 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: a former Texas A and M guy who may have 274 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: been drafted or second round whatever, But you can't do that. 275 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: His dad played for my dad, Chris's dad. I mean, listen, Chris, 276 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: his dad's the color and the color analyst for the 277 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: A and M basketball. Look. Look, I'll Lakers tonight. I 278 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: it up. Look. I did note that he took himself out. 279 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: I will point out that in basketball, generally you take 280 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: yourself I can put yourself back in. Took him a 281 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: while to get back in. I don't know if he 282 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: I don't know the NBA clock schedule in terms of 283 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: taking yourself out before. But his big mistake wasn't taking 284 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: yourself out. It was twofold is one you can be tired, 285 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: but can't play tired. Right What that means is when 286 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: you take yourself out. If Lillard gets the ball the 287 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: next time off the court, he kind of was a 288 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: little bit lazy and died on the screen and Lillard 289 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: hit a three. By the way, Anthony Davis and Dwight 290 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: Howard need to realize that Damian Lillard is shooting like 291 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: beyond thirty feet right now. I mean, I have friends 292 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: who I guess hadn't watched as closely as to what 293 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: Damian Lillard's done. They're like taking these shots. I'm like, 294 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: have you guys been watching? Krissa did a great job 295 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: on him up until you did a great job, Jim. 296 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: We call him to so and it was just like 297 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: they make a shot. No, I mean, that's that's the 298 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: NBA is. Sometimes great defense doesn't matter. Jason McIntyre Doug 299 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: Galiban for Dan the Nannettes. Here's here's how I would 300 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: break it down. Um, I'm concerned that the Clippers, they 301 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: seem to be trying to do the light switch thing. 302 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: And I don't think they're that good. Like I think 303 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: they're really good and they're deep and they're solid, but 304 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: they're not good enough to be doing what they're doing, 305 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: which is kind of doing that. Yeah, we'll get to 306 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: it when we get to it right old. On the 307 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: statu last night, sixteen assists, fifteen turnovers. It's all isleball, 308 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: it's Paul George pounding the rock Kauhi. There's no key chemistry. 309 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: It just isn't there. No, I get it. I mean, um, 310 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: their offense is clunky. It just is. So that's my 311 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: concern with the Clippers. My concern with the Lakers is 312 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: Lebron does finally look a little bit his age. They 313 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: they really miss Avery Bradley shooting and his ability to guard. 314 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: Just you know, you're when you if you look at 315 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: when Lebron's Miami Heat team lost the first year of 316 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks, that's still dude, we need a documentary. Okay, 317 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: So what happened? I've asked several players on my Saturday 318 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: radio show. I've had them on, several players from the 319 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: Heat and the MAVs. What happened? People are still like 320 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, dude. Okay, Well, so there's a couple 321 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: of things. They had terrible point guard play. Mike Bibby 322 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: was over the hill. People forget Mike Bibby started the 323 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: first five games, didn't play in game six. That's how 324 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: bad he was. They just didn't play him. So had 325 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: poor point guard play. And then Joel Anthony was a 326 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: starting point guard, starting center for the Miami Heat. And 327 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: if you remember, Tyson Chandler was the center for the 328 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks. And Lebron struggled to get to the rim 329 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: and finished at the rim, so he started settling for 330 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: jump shots much the way I mean, which is he 331 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: struggled to finish over Hassan Whiteside going back the other night. 332 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: And what's the other struggle is their point guard play. 333 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: There's some similarities there. But remember Lebron in that series 334 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: was twenty six years old. He had arguably his worst 335 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: playoff series ever. Well, in the final he averaged seventeen 336 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: a game. That's it. That was, I mean, it's the 337 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: best still in its clickable, how bad, and it just 338 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: doesn't listen. If you've ever had you've ever had fear 339 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: of the moment, Lebron James. He carried an awful Clippers 340 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: team to the finals a few years prior to that. 341 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: I mean a Calves team. Calves team, I'm yes, but 342 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: there's no, there's not the pressure there. And he didn't 343 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: play well once they got to the finals either. And 344 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: like twenty two, you also have to remember, like let's 345 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: take into context. Okay, that was a year in which 346 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: suddenly he wore the black hat. That was the year, 347 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: which you know because they said no one, not two, 348 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: not three, not four, right, So he was viewed differently. 349 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: It was the first time in his life he'd ever 350 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: been viewed or talked about in any sort of negative light. Um. 351 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: They also, if you remember, they won kind of game. 352 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: Remember they won Game one. Then they made fun of 353 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: Dirt Navitski for they thought pretending to be sick. Um. 354 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: Remember there's remember there's the video of them fake coughing 355 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: like he was sick. Yeah, they tried to clown Dirk. 356 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff going on. I think there 357 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: was a game to collapse right at the end. They 358 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: gave up like twelve straight points and lost the game. 359 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: Something obscene. Maybe it wasn't Game two, but it was 360 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: Game two. Okay, and you're right, they were in control. 361 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: That's it just fell apart rapidly. Yes, yes, that that 362 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened anyway. Um, but I'm concerned. I'm 363 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: concerned with the Bucks in terms of like, really, yeah, 364 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: I just I don't see it with Jannis. I don't 365 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: think he's where people think he is, because I think 366 00:18:55,359 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: people just look at stat lines and he's he's What 367 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: Colin said yesterday was brilliant in that he said, you know, 368 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: it's like Lamar Jackson. You can't get behind his style. 369 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: You can't get behind in the playoffs. And that's because 370 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: he's missing the primary skill that you need to be 371 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: great and to win, which is the same thing Lamar 372 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: Jackson is missing, which is the mar doesn't have the 373 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: ability at East yet in the NFL to snap the 374 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: ball five wide receivers and march down eighty yards with 375 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: the pass and throw outside the numbers. He's not there yet. 376 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: He has freakish talent, and he's in a system which 377 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: is solely designed around that talent and skill, and so 378 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: he dominated the NFL last year in the regular season. 379 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: The postseason a different animal. The same thing with Jannis. 380 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: Jannis has freakish skill. The whole system is built around 381 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: what he likes to do, right, But he can't shoot. 382 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: And the worst thing in the world's when he hits 383 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: one early then he thinks he can shoot. But he 384 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: three of seventy game one, but the four of nine 385 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: free throws. He's just not a shooter yet. And and 386 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: that is the number one skill requires. One of the 387 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: things that held Lebron back is for a long time 388 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: his confidence goes on and off with with his midrange 389 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: jump shot. It just does. This is probably too incendiary 390 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: Dug for the Dan Patrick Show. But if I'm asking 391 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: you who would you rather build a franchise around right now, 392 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: Yannis or Luca don Jag, what is your answer? Um? 393 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: Should we should we let that go? Let that go? 394 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: During the commercial branding? Yeah, I got I got, Dug, 395 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: really shoot. This is not an easy one. No, it 396 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: actually is. I would take Luca. Okay, I'm with you, 397 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: and it's not a hot take. I don't actually bubble. 398 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: I don't actually think it's that close. Now, Jannis does 399 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: really help you on defense, whereas Luca Luca does not 400 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: does not and so Um. But but no matter how 401 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: much Yannis works at shooting, He'll never be a natural shooter, 402 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 1: whereas Luca is a better passer, a better shooter, and 403 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: has a big body so he can make up for 404 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: his lack of athleticism. Yeah, I would that's that would 405 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: that would be I would take I would take Luca. 406 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: I would take Luca. All right? Coming up next, there's 407 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: a new thought as to why some are not performing 408 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: at the level that we're normally accustomed to in the NBA. 409 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: Is the bubble the reason Lebron is in prime Lebron 410 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: Lebron thinks. So we'll discuss next The Dan Patrick Show. 411 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 412 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern, six am Pacific 413 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeart Radio wapp Dan 414 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: Patrick Show Fox Sports Radio. Would Jason mcintown, I'm Doug 415 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: Gottlieb getting ready for NBA games tonight, including the Lakers 416 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: taking on the Trailblazers two, which is at nine eastern, 417 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: six o'clock Pacific. And there's a new kind of discussion 418 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: as to what's wrong with Lebron James. What's wrong with 419 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: Lebron James? If you ask Lebron fan, nothing's wrong with 420 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: Lebron James. He just had a career high for assists 421 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: right in the playoffs, and he led the league and 422 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: assist and it's it's everybody else's fault. What did he 423 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: have twenty three, seventeen and fifteen. That's an obscene stat line. 424 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: It is, Anne, Come on, did he actually play that well? Listen? 425 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: If no, no, no, no no, I asked you question 426 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: Lebron play that well? Yes, Lebron. I would give Lebron's 427 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: grade in that game a solid BEE. Okay, But I 428 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: think his stats, his stats would tell you that he 429 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: played great. The game would tell you like he did 430 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: some very very good things. If if three open jumpers 431 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: that he set his guys up for fall, I mean 432 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: we're talking about all Lebron is phenomenal greed. Also miss 433 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: he missed his own free throws with her those two 434 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: free throws and ad MISSI you know he he you 435 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: know he missed a wide open three. He also didn't 436 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: fin couldn't finish overs on whiteside, made some bad decisions 437 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: in driving in there in the lane, not knowing what 438 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: he wants to do. I would if you want to say, like, hey, 439 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: solid b maybe even B plus. Sure that therein lies 440 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: the problem though, that people look at the stats like 441 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: he played great as somebody else's fall like nah, he 442 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: played good. You know, look you can get I mean, 443 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: no one knows more about assists than me. There's not 444 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: a human being on earth than knows more about it 445 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: than I do. You can get assists, you get assists 446 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: a ton of them and not actually play well and 447 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: not actually play well, and you can play four assists 448 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: like my college coach, the late Ay Sidon. You're the 449 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: most selfish, unselfish player I've ever seen. All you want 450 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: to do is get assist Like yeah, because he won't 451 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: let me shoot, so I gotta do something. But you 452 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: can play for assists. Um. Well, anyway, what's interesting is 453 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: I think all of us are sitting They're going like 454 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: all right, Like he's he's playing pretty well. There's been 455 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: some really good game. But something is not the same. 456 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: Is at the age? Is it that he's been in 457 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: a hotel for two months? Here's Lebron James, Like I 458 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: continue to say, this is different. This is different. Um 459 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: in an aspect of this, I mean, we're in a 460 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: bubble with no fans. But as far as me being 461 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: locked in on the game plan. That didn't change, not 462 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: one bit, going on, making plays, m playing, I'm at 463 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: a high level, try to help our team win. That 464 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: was the same and nothing changes from it. You know, 465 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: So that's the same. Mean all right, So he's saying, hey, 466 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: nothing nothing changes, it's different, it's the bubble. Joe Vardin, 467 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: who of course covered him in Cleveland, said he's really 468 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: surprised at how how affected by not having fans Lebron is. 469 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: Is it a legitimate explanation. I won't even go excuse 470 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: explanation that one thing missing for Lebron is the energy 471 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: and he feeds. I think it's a great point. Brian 472 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: Winhorst was on my podcast straight Fire and mentioned that 473 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: Lebron won a road playoff game in twenty five straight 474 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: series NBA record, won two game sevens on the road, 475 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: Like this is a money player who thrives off the 476 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: energy of the opposing crowd. I mean, how many games 477 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: can you remember? You remember that game of the Boston 478 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: Garden where he gave I'm pretty sure it was the 479 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: Paul Pierce KG Celtics forty five. Remember that game? Like, 480 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: Lebron is an incredible performer on the road. I mean, 481 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: we've seen him. Remember some of these Portland games where 482 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: he dunked all over nurk Its one of the best dunks. 483 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: I believe it was last season, and we know what 484 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: he can do at home. Yeah, it's gotta be a 485 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: little different, Doug. You mentioned during the commercial break though, 486 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: Luca Dontet had a big shot last night and went 487 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: to the crowd and was thumping his chest like there 488 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: was a crowd there to get riled up, or even 489 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: an opposing arena to silence. Yeah. I think there's definitely 490 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: something there. I just want to be clear. Okay, this 491 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: is not an excuse from Lebron. This is a fact, 492 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: and we're in an era right now. Doug. Sadly, I 493 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: don't want to go off on too much of a 494 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: tangent where people just refuse to understand science and facts. 495 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: Like Lebron is playing in an antiseptic arena where there 496 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: is piped in music and like thirty people cheering. That 497 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: is a fact. Okay, whether you want to you Joe 498 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: Public sitting on a sofa yelling at Lebron, you know, 499 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: you guys have never played in front of a arena 500 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: where there's twenty five thousand people screaming and then going 501 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: from that to nobody screaming, why Doug do we hear 502 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: about so many athletes who have an awesome life as 503 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: an athlete. Everywhere you go, adulation, give me an autograph, 504 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: girls throwing themselves at you, at bars, everywhere, and then 505 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: you leave the league and it's just it's just silence. 506 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: It's like all that's gone, it's done. And we see 507 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: a lot of athletes struggle with that off the court 508 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: with their family, right, can you imagine what these players 509 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: are going, especially a guy like Lebron. Well, look, okay, 510 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: so so he's the biggest road draw in the league 511 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: outside of the Curry Warriors when they were the greatest show. 512 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: You're saying he gets energy off the opposing fanily, I agree. 513 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: That's part of what makes what makes basketball great is 514 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: the tangibility to the to the players, to the fans 515 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: and vice versa. Um, there's there's a there's a lot 516 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: to bite off there. Bardon's piece where he and this 517 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: is really good, he says, But emotionally and spiritually Lebron, 518 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: who was who was on this generic NBA court in 519 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: an empty Disney arena, was not the same emotionally or 520 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: spiritually as Lebron, who steered the one injured Cavs team 521 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: to six game finals with the Warriors in twenty fifteen, 522 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: or got a strip down Cleveland Cavalier's team to the 523 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: finals in twenty eighteen, Lebron's last playoff experience. Right, Like, 524 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: the point is the Lakers have holes. He's played with 525 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: teams before and there's just something missing in terms of 526 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: energy and is it the fans. I look, here's what 527 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: I said before the bubble took place. I thought it 528 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: was going to be a mistake because the rest of 529 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: the world would be open by now. I was wrong. Okay, 530 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: that Adam Silver has nailed in terms of protecting his 531 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: sport and they'll get through the finals and they'll be fine. 532 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: But I did believe and I do think this to 533 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: be like, Look, it's just not You're not going to 534 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: get the best out of people when they're staying in 535 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: a hotel for two or three months. You're just not. 536 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: And that part is foreign. And I do think not 537 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: playing in front of fans is a little bit for it. 538 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: But this is where like when you've played basketball in 539 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: the minor leagues or you've played basketball overseas, it doesn't 540 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: bother you as much. You go into a locker room 541 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: and there's just a hook for your stuff. You're like, whatever, 542 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: it smells like death in the shower, whatever, right you you? Uh, 543 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: there's there's no you're warming up and there's no fans. 544 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: You're playing a game and you drop a dime and 545 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: there's like two people stand up and cheer there. You know, 546 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: playing an empty gyms is hard, and Lebron hadn't played 547 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: an empty gym probably since his freshman year in high school. Well, 548 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: there are some of those UCLA runs where they don't 549 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: let in the offseason, where they don't let fans in. Right, Um, 550 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: I think he played here last summer with Kawa. Yeah. Look, 551 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: he's played pickup he's played pickup ball before, but it's different. Yeah. 552 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: The problem with the argument is, hey, dude, everybody else 553 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: is going through the same thing. Okay, Like that's when 554 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: it becomes not an explanation and excuse. Do I think 555 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: it's harder to stay in a hotel for a month 556 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: and a half and be at your optimum level? I do? Do. 557 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: I think it's hard when you've done all these things 558 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: and you're you get the most adulation of anybody in 559 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: the end, and now there's nobody outside of your teammate's 560 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: cheering for you. I do. But by the way, this 561 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: is basketball in its purest form, like who's better me? You? 562 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: There's no crowd, right, So if there's no crowd, you'd 563 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: think maybe the officials aren't as affected as much by 564 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: the crowd. Officials are terrible, by the way, the officials 565 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: are terrible. Officials are terrible. And you know what the 566 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: crazy thing is, these actually are the best refs in 567 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: the world. If you've seen reps other way places, you'd like, 568 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: you know it, they're actually better than the NBA. Anyway, 569 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: I think it's do. I think it's accurate that he's 570 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: not himself at least partially because of the setup. Sure, 571 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: but that works for everybody, everybody, and and so that's 572 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: when it becomes an excuse. But Doug, has everybody been 573 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: to eight straight finals the way Lebron has. Lebron has 574 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: more tread on his tires than anybody, I don't, I 575 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: think ever, I think he's got more playoff minutes, more 576 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: playoff games than anyone in NBA history. Maybe Jabbar has 577 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: him in one of those categories. But like Luka Donchez, 578 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: this is first and second playoff games. Ever, he don't 579 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: he don't know what it feels like in the playoffs. 580 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: I mean, Jannis has been in the playoffs. What two 581 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: three seasons? What does that have to do with Lebron 582 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: is used to? Okay, it's April May JUNI here we go, 583 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: gott to rev the engine up? Uh? What is it? 584 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: Zero dark thirty? When you get I'm a routine guy, Doug, 585 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if you are. I love a good routine. Okay. 586 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: During the quarantine, I really struggled. I've talked about this 587 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: on my Saturday show. I really struggled that first month, 588 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: like just getting I mean I am now, but the 589 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: first month, man was tough. I was sleeping in. There 590 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: was no sense of accomplishment. I'm a I'm a guy 591 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: who would like go to the gym and work out, 592 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: play pick up all like three or four days a week. 593 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: And I had no routine and I need I had 594 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: like no purpose. I mean I wasn't going on team, 595 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: but I wasn't doing anything and I need to get 596 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: in a routine out. I'm in a much better place now. 597 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm running. I'm waking up at like six am to 598 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: run um I'm just getting in a routine, and Lebron is, 599 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: I think struggling after being in the playoffs, what fourteen 600 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 1: of seventeen years he's used to at a certain time, 601 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: turning it on zero dark thirty. I'm in playoff Lebron 602 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: mode where nobody can stop me, and I think he's 603 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: just kind of coming to grips with that. I'm not 604 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: it's not an excuse. I'm just giving him a little 605 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: more wiggle room. Maybe I'm just that friendly, nice of 606 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: a guy that I want to give Lebron a chance. 607 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm one of these guys that you know, you read 608 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: the book The Tipping Point, Mac and Gladlow, and you 609 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: realize there's not just one cause for things, right, There's 610 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: a bunch. And I think, can you say playing in 611 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: the empty arena affects him? Sure, you know, and that 612 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: he feeds off the even the negative energy of a 613 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: place like the Boston Garden or a place they play 614 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: on the road. But I think it becomes a bit 615 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: of an excuse. Now there are other factors. I think 616 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: him being older, Yeah, he's not moving the same. I 617 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: think the league has evolved somewhere. You point out the 618 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: Clippers and then playing SO ball. That's really what the 619 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: Lakers play. They're not. They don't move the ball nearly 620 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: as well, the lack of shooting around him. When other 621 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: guys aren't making shots, he goes. He can go into 622 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of pout mode. I mean, Dave's hitting 623 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: shots from the logo and Danny Green and KCP are 624 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: just whiffing. Who hit the side of a backboard on 625 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: a three pointer? It actually happened twice. I saw that 626 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: twice to the Blazers and it happened. And Gary Trent Junior. 627 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: But no, you you made a good point about the 628 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: empty gyms. Jason Tatum is on fire for Boston. Okay, 629 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: he was playing an empty gyms like four years ago 630 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: and playing AU maybe five years ago, playing AU basketball. 631 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: Like you said, Lebron, it's been a real game. I 632 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: don't think I played an empty gym in a long time. 633 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: You don't think he's played AU ball those Adida's tournaments 634 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: and in the AX gym, he doesn't. He was got 635 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: any But you know, okay, fine, were there some college 636 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: coaches lined up in chairs Jim Beeheim and company. Oh listen, 637 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: there's probably a nine am game at Chaparral high school 638 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: in Vegas where there wasn't a lot of people there. 639 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: I get it. I'm just I'm and I do. I 640 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: think it's hard on people. I do. I'm I'm willing 641 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: to admit that this is not normal. It's very, very different. 642 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: But I also think, like, look, dude, your legacy is 643 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: at stake. You well, I think you cermented. That's what 644 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: all time great? See he's he's top five on everybody's 645 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: list all time, whether it's not Paul Pierce. Paul Pierce 646 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: is a clown. Stop it cloud because like two years 647 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: ago he said Lebron was one of the best ever, 648 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: and now he's like, oh, he's not in my top 649 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: he'll be one of the best ever. Not being top five. No, 650 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: but he changed his mind with like no new information. 651 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: Paul Pierce just looking for people to talk about him 652 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: on the internet. I'm just it's working because he not 653 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: not top five. I would be an interesting Yeah. In 654 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: terms of what everything analysts, is he a Hall of Famer? 655 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: Everybody gets in the NBA Hall of Fame is yeah, Okay, 656 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: you go. He's lucky player. He's lucky Danny Ainge made 657 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: the Big Three, or he wouldn't have a ring. We 658 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. Fox Sports 659 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 660 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot 661 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: com and within the iHeart Radio app. Search f s 662 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: R to listen live. Doug got Lictation, Mcatalian for Dan 663 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: and the Danets Dan Patrick Show Fox Sports Radio. Well 664 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 1: you try, you were trying to get it on Paul Piers. 665 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: Don't get it on Paul Piers. Fine, what's the what's 666 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: the win there? I know the audience doesn't care. So 667 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: what do you mean the audience doesn't care. Nobody cares 668 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 1: about Paul Piers. He's a guy who just says inflammatory 669 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: garbage on television. Uninformed. Let me add uninformed, inflammatory garbage. Listen. 670 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: I love you, okay, I really do. We're legit. We're 671 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: legit friends here. I wouldn't you know, I wouldn't. I 672 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't say saying the bronze on a top five players 673 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: uninformed guarda. By the way, I know a couple of 674 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 1: guys who played in the poker game out here in 675 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: LA with him, and they said, he is you know, 676 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: what's your what's your line about it? You know, if 677 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: you go to a poker table and you realize there 678 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: you know them. But bottom line is he's not a 679 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: good poker player, or so my friends say, who are 680 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: good at poker. Okay, that doesn't mean he's not taking 681 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: random shots at Paul Pierce two early in the morning 682 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: for that Or Luca, you're gonna start a franchise where 683 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: you go, I'm gonna go, Luca, you know, I know 684 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: that's that's gonna see him incendi are he Given the 685 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: fact that Jannis is about to win his second MVP, 686 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be the first player since Elijahwan and 687 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: Jordan to win MVP and Defensive Player of the Year 688 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: in the same season. But like you said earlier, the 689 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: NBA is evolving, and it's at the point now where 690 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's three and D it's pick and 691 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: roll and take open threes, and Luca does that and 692 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: Yannis does not. I mean, we're seeing this Houston OKC series. 693 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 1: I did a write up for Fox sports dot com 694 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: about how to gamble on the NBA first round of 695 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: the playoffs and essentially, okay, see Houston comes down to 696 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: a math equation. Houston takes a million threes. Okay, see 697 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: they don't take a million threes, And if Okaysee's mid 698 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: range is hit, it may not even matter because Houston's 699 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: gonna bomb. Forty fifty sixty three is a game. And 700 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: in this scenario, twenty twenty, NBA twenty one next year, 701 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 1: I'm going with Luca over Jannis. I mean, I don't 702 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: know Luca, Doug. There's not a lot of guys i'd 703 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: take over Luca at this point. He's twenty one. No, look, look, 704 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: I think he's I think that the question for Luca 705 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: is there's a little bit of the same question of 706 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: Zion terms like does he have a bad Does this 707 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: guy have a bad body? Right? Like Luca does have 708 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: he for a great basketball player, he does seem to 709 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: be a little thick in the middle at twenty one. Now, 710 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: maybe he continues to trim up or whatever and it 711 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: doesn't affect him now and he's not So it's not 712 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: like Zion where he's so explosive you feel like, you know, 713 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 1: he's too explosive for his body. He's not so part 714 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,439 Speaker 1: of the big body. I actually like because I think 715 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 1: it can take the physicality of and he can play, 716 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, at the elbow, he can play in the post, 717 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: he can use his body to create space. I'm just 718 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: I'm a little concerned about his his body overall. But 719 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: otherwise you're concerned for Luca's body. What is your level 720 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: of concern for Zion? Major concerns, major concern Like, Look, 721 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 1: the one of the reasons Lebron is Lebron is because 722 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: up until last year he never got hurt. You know, 723 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: he invests a ton of money, time and effort, maybe 724 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: a little bit too much so at times into his body, 725 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: and you'd be you'd be surprised at how some guys don't, 726 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, some guys don't really totally kind of buy 727 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: into it. So I would take Luca, and it's because 728 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: you're not going to teach um. You're not going to 729 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: teach a thirty year old man and to become Can 730 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: you teach him? Can you get to a place where 731 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: you make shots? Yes? Is he going to be a 732 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: shooter at that point? Now? Fil for the game and 733 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: his basketball? I you are like unmatched right now, Luca, Yeah, 734 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: he sees stuff there. I don't know if it's unmatched. 735 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: I just think who who's got who's got the vision? 736 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: He does? I mean, all the best Quames Harden has 737 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: a great vision. Lebron James James Harden does have great vision. 738 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: He's a little more I so heavy, I think then 739 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 1: Luca um quick quick note on you know, I guess 740 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: where where this is headed with Luca, Like what is 741 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: the sky the limit? Can this guy be an all 742 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: time great? Or are we going a little overboard based 743 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: on a couple games in the bubble. I think he'd 744 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: be a great player, I mean like all time great. 745 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: Like let's let's get to where you like win a 746 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 1: co playoffs series, like you continue to play this well 747 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: going forward? You you have to elevate players around you, 748 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 1: like I haven't because because what people all say, like, look, 749 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: he's Larry Bird and shooting, passing, scoring. Yeah, Larry was 750 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: a much better a great rebounder, but more than anything, 751 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: Like Larry Bird took like a twenty I'm gonna say, 752 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: like a twenty one win Celtic team. They won like 753 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 1: sixty games his rookie year, like he winning followed him now. 754 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: The Mavericks are much better now, obviously, and Luca is 755 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: a huge part of it. But is he that much 756 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: of a winning player in comparison to other guys? This 757 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: just hit me do oh boy, is the hype for 758 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 1: Luca Oh boy? Does it have to do with we 759 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: haven't seen a white guy, a European guy, you know, 760 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: do this kind of thing in the league in a while. 761 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: I'd like that. I'd like that. I like the thing. 762 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: It's not like we like white guys, don't get credit 763 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: for European white guys. It's just not no one's ever said, 764 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: like Dirk was a white guy. Dirk's German. Even Steve 765 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 1: Nash is Canadian. It doesn't even doesn't doesn't even count Nash. 766 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: I mean, like, the league hasn't had a great white 767 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: guy in a while, hasn't. You're right now, has I mean, 768 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: Dirk was the last great player of white skin. Nash, 769 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: Nash and Dirk right right right. But but Dirk won 770 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: the MVP after after Nash won the mp any one Championship. UM, 771 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it has anything to do with the 772 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: being white, to be totally honest with you, I just 773 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,439 Speaker 1: think it has to do with the fact that he's 774 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: young and he's awesome, and that's that's fair. I do 775 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: wonder and this is probably maybe for the next segment 776 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: if you want to, but is it rough for the 777 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: league that the two brightest stars right now are Jannis 778 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: and Luca don Chich, who are no non Americans A 779 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 1: little hockey, do it? I Mean, Lillard's pretty big star 780 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,720 Speaker 1: and he's from Oakland, right But well, Kevin Durant's not playing, 781 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 1: Steph Curry's not playing, so need those guys back? The 782 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: Clippers lost last night? Is it more about the mats 783 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 1: eclips by out next? Fox Sports Radio has the best 784 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: sports talk lineup in the nation. 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