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So after 57 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: the Lakers got smashed by the Clippers, I did an 58 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: episode where I talked about the Lakers looking like they're 59 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: starting to lose belief a little bit, some bad body language, 60 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: some comments, and the postgame presser from JJ Reddick and 61 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: Lebron James. It just kind of seemed like they didn't, 62 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: they were losing confidence in their ability to achieve their 63 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: ultimate goal this year. After last night's dominant win against 64 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics, JJ Reddick said, hopefully there's some belief 65 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: reinforced here about what we can and be, And so 66 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to take a second, just really quickly before 67 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: we dive into the deeper details of this game, to 68 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: talk about why belief is so important to a basketball team. 69 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: In my opinion, there are two mental hurdles that every 70 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: team has to get through in order to play championship basketball. 71 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: And these are separate from anything with talent on the 72 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: roster because we all can agree that, like, in order 73 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: to accomplish something as a basketball team, you have to 74 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: have talented players, and then you have to play a 75 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: certain type of way. Right, it's a combination of two factors, right. 76 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: The first mental hurdle is you got to compete. You 77 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: have to get your competitive motor running, meaning you have 78 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: to be bought into the concept of winning, not just 79 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: playing basketball. I've referred to this concept on the show 80 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: as the fear of losing, because I think that's actually 81 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: more how it manifests for competitors, Like I think it 82 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: has more to do with just like a trying to 83 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: survive that game without losing that mentality that brings that 84 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: competitive nature out of people. If you're not going to compete, 85 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: you're not going to win. If you're just okay with 86 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: losing and you're more in it for love of the game, 87 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: you're never gonna get to where you want to go 88 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: in terms of championship goals. I thought that D'Angelo Russell 89 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: quote was an interesting example of that when he talked 90 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: about never taking for granted playing free basketball again. Free 91 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: basketball is fun. I know the feeling. I vividly remember 92 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: when I finished my last practice, last game, last sequence 93 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: playing in college, and I came home and I went 94 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: to go play pick up at the University of Arizona 95 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: Rec Center, and I vividly remember this feeling where I 96 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: was like, this is fun, Like it's not work anymore. 97 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: Like it's like, if I happen to not get back 98 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: on defense on this possession, I'm not going to have 99 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: a coach chewing me out or anything like that. And 100 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: especially coming off of that particular season, which was the 101 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: most structured team that I ever played with, and so 102 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: like I sympathize with the feeling of like what it 103 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: feels like to play stakes free basketball, but at the 104 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: end of the day, like it has some fun to it. 105 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: But playing winning basketball is a fundamentally different thing. It's 106 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: also fun, but in a different way. It's more like work. 107 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: The attention to detail consumes your every thought. That last 108 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: year that I played in college, I played at the 109 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: NAIA level up in Phoenix at a school called Arizona 110 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: Christian University. At the NAIA level, the coaching is insane. 111 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: Shout out to coach Jeff Rudder up there by far 112 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: the most structured team that I played in in college 113 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: and the closest thing to the pros in terms of 114 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: like advanced schematic stuff on both ends of the floor, 115 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: and so like there what I had a coaching staff 116 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: that was relentlessly holding me accountable to my job on 117 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: both ends of the floor when I was there. That 118 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: it's like work, but the rewards come in different ways. 119 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: Like you build camaraderie with your teammates as you survive 120 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: the grind together. You have these team accomplishments like winning 121 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: games or winning trophies, and yes, you do still have 122 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: some fun. Do you think the Lakers were having fun 123 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: when they were kicking the shit out of the Celtics 124 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: last night. Like it's fun when it all comes together, 125 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: but it definitely feels overall more like work. So you 126 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: got to get your competitive motor running so that you're 127 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: willing to do the work. But if basketball is gonna 128 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: feel like work, if it's going to feel like a chore, 129 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: then you better be getting rewarded for it. This is 130 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: where belief comes into the equation. Playing winning basketball is 131 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: a pain in the ass. It's constant mental engagement. It's 132 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: a shit ton of running, it's taking a bunch of 133 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: physical contact. It's holding onto the rope. No matter how 134 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: good or how bad things get, it's really hard to do. 135 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: The team needs to believe that they're hard work the 136 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: shit that sucks will actually lead to them getting the 137 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: thing that they want, in this case, silario'brian Trophy. Before 138 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: this game against the Celtics, the Lakers had been consistently 139 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: dropping games against good teams. The Clippers controlled them, These 140 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: Spurs destroyed them in the second half. The Mavericks destroyed 141 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: them in the second half. The Rockets basically led them 142 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: wire to wire. The Lakers got it close a couple times, 143 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: but Houston always pulled away the Cavs. The Lakers hung 144 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: tight for about two and a half quarters and then 145 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: lost control. 146 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: Of that one. 147 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: Now I would argue that poor execution played a role 148 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: in those losses, but the point is they were losing 149 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: consistently to the good teams in the league. And so 150 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: if you're gonna get a forty year old Lebron James 151 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: and an aging Anthony Davis to really commit to the work, 152 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: they need to believe that this team can actually win. 153 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: And there are two things that can actually convince them 154 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: that they're capable of winning an NBA championship. One a 155 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: trade for more talent, which we'll get into later. But 156 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: if you bring in more talent, obviously Lebron and Ad 157 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: will believe more. But a second thing that can accomplish 158 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: that is a signature win, a win that demonstrates to 159 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: you what your ceiling looks like. So you can at 160 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: least strive to be at that ceiling as much as 161 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: possible moving forward. And I thought last night was that 162 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: for the Lakers internally, Lebron James in his postgame presser 163 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: was really trying to dump a bunch of water on 164 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: that win and talk about it's just another night in 165 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: the NBA. 166 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: I don't disagree with him. 167 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: There's a lot of factors there, Like disclaimer for Celtics fans, 168 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: I know that that was a really tough game for 169 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,599 Speaker 1: you guys, schedule wise, it was your fifth game and 170 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: seven nights is on the road for the last three 171 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: games in that stretch, tail end of a back to back, 172 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: It's an overtime game the previous night against the Clippers, 173 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: and in general, the Celtics is aren't playing their best 174 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: basketball right now. All that is true, we can agree 175 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: that there were some other factors that play here. I 176 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: thought that last night had a lot more to do 177 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: with like good Lakers than any sort of like big 178 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: picture problem that the Celtics have. Like the Lakers played 179 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: a great game. The Celtics weren't playing their best and 180 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: they were worn down. That's how you end up getting 181 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: a blowout, right But I do think where I disagree 182 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: with Lebron is I do think it's an example of 183 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: what they can be. I saw a lot of potential 184 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: outcomes in my mind for last night's game, including some 185 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: that involved the Lakers winning. I thought they could win 186 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: that game, but I never in a million years thought 187 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: the Lakers would control that game from wire to wire, 188 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: blow them out, and do it with their defense. That 189 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: was Boston's first twenty point loss of this entire season. 190 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: It was only the second twenty point loss in the 191 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: Drew Holiday, and chrisops porzingis era here with the Celtics. 192 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: So again, everyone including Lakers fans, knows that the Boston 193 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: Celtics are not at their best right now and that 194 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: when they see them again in March, it will probably 195 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: be a much greater challenge. But the Lakers also played 196 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: their best game of the season last night. It's okay 197 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: to acknowledge that too. To JJ's point, hopefully there's some 198 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: belief reinforced about what this team can be. 199 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 2: I was really high on the Lakers before the season. 200 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: I thought they would win fifty games if they stayed 201 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: relatively healthy. I thought that they were a good trade 202 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: deadline away from serious contention. Now my faith in them 203 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: has been seriously shaken as I've actually watched the season layout. 204 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: I think they've been mostly bad this year if you 205 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: really dig into it. They've dominated the bad teams in 206 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: the league and have been pretty consistently mediocre to bad 207 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: against the good teams in the league. They've been a 208 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: bad road team. They have shaken my faith in them, 209 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: in large part beyond it because the roster issues I 210 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: knew about going into the season. In large part what 211 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: shook my faith in them is the lack of commitment. 212 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: I thought after what happened with Darvin ham last night, 213 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: I thought that or last season. I thought that JJ 214 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: Reddick coming in and trying to establish more structure with 215 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: the group from are to finish and on a possession 216 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: of possession basis, would galvanize these guys to actually attack 217 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: a regular season and that's not what happened. I think 218 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: that there's a mandatory minimum level of regular season engagement 219 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: for a team to win a title, and I think 220 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: the Lakers have fallen woefully short of that in the 221 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: large sample this season. But there have been moments where 222 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: we've seen what it looks like last night is at 223 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: least the kind of win that JJ can use to 224 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: try to put up on a pedestal as an example 225 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: and put it in the team's face and be like, 226 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: this is what you're capable of doing. This is where 227 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: I want to start getting into some specifics from the game. 228 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: JJ Reddick talked about them keeping the ball in front. 229 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: It was a big part of how the Lakers kept 230 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: the Celtics out of wide open catch and shoot jump 231 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: shots last night. The Celtics generate sixteen unguarded catch and 232 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: shoot jump shots per game according to Synergy, that's the 233 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: third most in the NBA. They generated only eleven last night. 234 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: A big part of that was the Lakers containing the 235 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: basketball staying out of rotation. Are the Lakers an elite 236 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: perimeter defense full of guys that can put the clamps 237 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: on people? No, of course not. But they do have 238 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: plenty of guys who can guard. And there is a 239 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: huge difference in this team between when they're really competing 240 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: to stay in front of the ball and when they aren't. 241 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: The other thing that JJ talked a lot about was 242 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: game plan discipline. He said it was their best game 243 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: plan discipline game of the season. The big thing there 244 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: was not overreacting to Boston hunting mismatches. The Celtics are 245 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: a killer whale offense, right They pick on your worst defender, 246 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: try to attack him, usually in the post or with 247 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: an ISO. When Porzingis would catch a smaller player in 248 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: the post, whether it was Max or was Austin. They 249 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: weren't doubling. They were doing what you're supposed to do 250 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: in a switching defense. They were crowding, digging, stunting, but 251 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: all within the context of being able to quickly close 252 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: out to a shooter to not give up the easy 253 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: swing pass, swing pass, wide open catch and shoot. Three 254 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: types of things that can happen when you recklessly double 255 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: or you're not set up for that sort of thing. 256 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis was really the only guy last night that 257 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: would occasionally completely leave his man to try to like 258 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: go for a late shot block on a player in 259 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: the post, or like really dig down. But again, Anthony 260 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: Davis his if you think of it like this, like 261 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: if you the camera are the shooter and I am 262 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: the offensive player that has the ball, there's a space 263 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: between us, right and if you're the help defender, your 264 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: ability to cover ground is going to dictate how much 265 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: you can come over to help. If you're a freaky athlete, 266 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: you might be able to straight up double team and 267 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: then recover. Like there are guys like Gary Payton with 268 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: the Warriors, Draymond Green with the Warriors I've talked about 269 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: where it's like they can straight up double team but 270 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: then still get out. Yehannest for years did this with 271 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: the Bucks and still does from time to time, where 272 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: it's like he can help at the rim or double 273 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: team but still close out to a shooter. That's that's 274 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: unique player to player. Anthony Davis was the guy last 275 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: night that was a little bit more aggressive in terms 276 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: of his helper's doubles or stunts or is attempting to 277 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: go in and get a block at the end of 278 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: an ISO. But for the most part, everyone else was 279 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: kind of splitting that difference and not overreacting to those attacks. 280 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: So as a result, Yeah, Chris. 281 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: Tops Porzingis and Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum, they hit 282 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: some buckets in the post, but they avoided that onslaught 283 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: of threes that Boston usually destroys teams with. Again, that 284 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: eleven unguarded catch and shoot threes stat that I told 285 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: you guys about earlier is a great stat to demonstrate that, 286 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: And that's what like, as I kind of look back 287 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: at the Lakers defensively after last night, I genuinely feel 288 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: bad for JJ Reddick about. 289 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: The stuff with the switching. 290 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: The Lakers switched one through five with the starters last 291 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: night against Boston's shooting bigs. They did some more drop 292 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: type stuff when it was like Cornette on the floor, 293 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: but like for the most part when it was Horford 294 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: or porzingis because they didn't want to give up easy 295 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: picking pop threes. They switched, which is the same scheme 296 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: that has been killing the Lakers all season. 297 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: But it worked last night. 298 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: Why because the Lakers did all the stuff that you're 299 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: supposed to do to make switching work, actually competing on 300 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: the ball to keep the ball in front, crowding but 301 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: not overhelping, gang rebounding, all of that stuff. But again, 302 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: it's been terrible for the Lakers all season because they've 303 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: sucked at all three of those things. They haven't competed 304 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: as well on the ball. They've given up too many 305 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: straight line drives, they've been dominated in the post. They've 306 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: been standing around off ball and glued up to shooters 307 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: and just leaving a guy on an island one on 308 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: one instead of crowding and making it more of a 309 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: tight space type of ISO to make life easier for 310 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: your on ball defender. And then the gang rebounding piece. 311 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: They give up a switch, and then they'd all just 312 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: standing around while the ball came off the rim, and 313 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: a big player that's matched up with a little player 314 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: would go get the rebound over the little player. It's 315 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: pretty clear after what you saw last night and what 316 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: we've seen at times this year, they are capable of 317 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: executing that scheme properly. And that's the vision that JJ 318 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: sees when he's in practice, when he's looking at the roster, 319 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: when he's you know, at home, obsessing over this kind 320 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: of thing. He thinks, like, these fucking guys can switch. 321 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: I know they can do it. This is a scheme 322 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: that will work for us. They just gotta fucking do it. 323 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: That's what he's thinking. That's what's going on in JJ's head, 324 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: and that's why like he stuck with it as long 325 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: as he did. 326 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: Now, I actually like. 327 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: That JJ's been using it more as a matchup specific 328 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: kind of thing, like using it depending on the team, 329 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: depending on the opponent. Right now, here's the thing. They 330 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: did it match up specific against Boston. It worked. They 331 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: did it match up specific against the Spurs. It didn't 332 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: because there was a they didn't X right, Like, It's 333 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: all it comes hand in hand with whether or not 334 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: you execute it. But I do actually think this is 335 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: a scheme the Lakers will need to use when they 336 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,239 Speaker 1: get into the postseason. So I like the idea of 337 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: continuing to try to build it out. I just think 338 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 1: they might have to stick with more traditional schemes for 339 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: the most part during the regular season because this team 340 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: just doesn't want to do the job in order for 341 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: that switching scheme to work. I've always talked about how 342 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: to guard Boston. In my opinion, the best way to 343 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: guard Boston is to switch and contain, because if you 344 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: switch and contain, then you force them to take off 345 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: the dribble jump shots. As soon as you get compromised 346 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: in containment, meaning they start driving past you or posting 347 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: through you, that's when you're gonna start either giving up 348 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: layups which will beat you, or having a hard help 349 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: which will beat you with them getting wide open threes. 350 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: But switching and containing is the way to guard Boston. 351 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: It is the appropriate game plan. The Lakers did it, 352 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: they did it right, and it worked. Like JJ said, 353 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: it was their best game plan discipline game of the season. 354 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: Their rebounding was super sharp. The Lakers have been a 355 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: bad rebounding team all season. Specifically, they allow an offensive 356 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: rebound on about thirty percent of their opponent's misses on 357 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: the season, that ranks twenty third in the NBA. Last night, 358 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: the group effort was excellent. There were some weak spots, 359 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: like I thought Ruey had a RUI. I think he 360 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: had six or seven rebounds, but he lost several. He 361 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: allowed several offensive rebounds by missing box outs and not 362 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: crashing properly. But as a team, I thought they did great. 363 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: They allowed an offensive rebound on just twenty three percent 364 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: of Boston's missus last night, which is an excellent number. 365 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: That's a seventy seven percent defensive rebound percenters. 366 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: That's excellent. 367 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: Lebron was the main factor there, Like one of the 368 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: biggest issues for the Lakers this year defensively is Lebron 369 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: is a lowman and is inconsistent effort. The lowman is 370 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: an incredibly important position in the NBA because in terms 371 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: of defensive responsibility, the reason why, like what usually happens 372 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: there is you're putting the You're always going to put 373 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: the lowman is typically on the opponent's worst offensive player, 374 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: a guy that they're typically gonna jam in the corner 375 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: in the dunker spot, right because they want to have 376 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: them provide a very basic role to try to provide 377 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: some spacing, but they're not going to do much in 378 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: the way ball handling, right, And so then what ends 379 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: up happening is your elite ball handlers, they're all like 380 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: great jump shooters, and so as they're coming up off 381 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: these screens, you got to have your big up at 382 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: the level. You got to get your big up there, right, 383 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: So Anthony Davis is coming up to the level of screens, 384 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: he's getting out on the perimeter, especially in these switches, 385 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: right like when the Lakers are switching, Anthony Davis is 386 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: ending up on the perimeter. And so what ends up 387 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: happening is like in those ball screens, the low man 388 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden becomes responsible for two people. Because 389 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: if Anthony Davis is up at the level and there's 390 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: a role man behind, Lebron now has to account for 391 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: the role man who got behind Anthony Davis and Lebron's 392 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: man in the corner. Or if Anthony Davis switches out 393 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: onto the perimeter in a switch and now there's a 394 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: post player looking to attack a smaller Laker, Lebron once 395 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: again is the primary helper and rebounder in that situation. 396 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: If he's gonna help the guy in the post. He's 397 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: the guy who's closest, He's the guy who's got to 398 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: get the rebound when the shot goes up. There's a 399 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: lot of physical responsibility on that position, a lot of 400 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: meeting guys at the rim, like rim confrontations, a lot 401 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: of big contested rebounds, a lot of difficult rotations out 402 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: to a shooter in the corner. It's a difficult position, 403 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: and you got a forty year old playing it, a 404 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: forty year old that on nights like last night looks 405 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: like a dominant lowman, and then on many nights this 406 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: season is a downright destructive lowman because he's not jumping 407 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: for every contested rebound, not jumping in every ring confrontation, 408 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: and not making those rotations on. 409 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 2: The back line. 410 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: And so that's kind of like one of the conundrums 411 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: with this Laker team is like when Lebron and Ad. 412 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: When Ad is at a level like he was defensively 413 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: last night, and when Lebron is engaged as a lowman, 414 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: they can be really good defensively, especially when now they've 415 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: got like pretty solid perimeter defenders. In a way that 416 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: they did it because gave Vincent is healthy and playing 417 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: good basketball, because Dorian Finney Smith is playing, because Max 418 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: Christy is playing. You know, now, Austin Reeves is not 419 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: your best perimmeter defender in the starting lineup, right, Like, 420 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: they have good talent around them in terms of at 421 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: least adequate defensive talent. When Lebron and ad are engaged 422 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: like that, they can actually be a really successful defensive group. 423 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: But this is one of the things, like, and again, 424 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: I've been on the fence about the trading for a 425 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: center thing because I think it's got to be the 426 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 1: right kind of center. If it's a really good center, 427 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: I think it's the kind of thing that could add 428 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: a physical element to this team that makes them difficult 429 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: to deal with. I just think a really good center 430 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: is expensive and maybe not available, and I'm not sure 431 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: that the Lakers can pull it off. And I think 432 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: bringing in a mediocre center or a bad center, you know, 433 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: relative to starting centers in the league, doesn't really accomplish anything. 434 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: But if you want to know why that like too 435 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: big look that Anthony Davis talks about a lot is 436 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: something that's appealing to him, it's specifically because Anthony Davis 437 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: would love to have a lowman who does that kind 438 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: of stuff consistently night tonight, unlike Lebron James does, or 439 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: maybe he'd like to be the low man. Right, this 440 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: is where we talk about the Jannis and brook Lopez concept. Right, 441 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: like it's a bracket if you're defending action three on 442 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: two in ball screens, meaning like you're ball screen defenders 443 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: coming up to the level and back like a high 444 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: drop and back, and your lowman is going help at 445 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: the rim corner. Help at the rim corner. There's these 446 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: two large amounts of space that you have to cover 447 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: both vertically and side to side, and so having two 448 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: seven foot dudes that can get back and forth in 449 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: those situations is really difficult to deal with for any offense. 450 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: And so one of the reasons why Anthony Davis has 451 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: talked a lot about wanting to have a center is 452 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: he envisions a world where you send a center. Let's 453 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: call it Walker Kestler. And I think Walker Kestler is 454 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: a very very long shot. I think it's very unlikely 455 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: that Utah trades him, but he's kind of like a 456 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: dream target for me, just because I think he's the 457 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: kind of guy that could really add a physical dynamic 458 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: to the Lakers. You send Walker Kessler up to the level. 459 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis is your low man. You saw how good 460 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: Lebron was at it last night. Imagine Anthony Davis doing 461 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: that in large chunks throughout the season. 462 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: Or switch the roles. 463 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis is defending out on the perimeter and you 464 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: have Walker Kessler, a guy like that, cleaning things up 465 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: on the back line. Again, that's the basketball concept behind 466 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: that desire for Anthony Davis, behind that desire for the team. 467 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: I just think it has to be a really high 468 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: level center for it to make a lot of sense. Like, 469 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: there are a lot of guys out there that people 470 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: have talked about as potential trade targets at the center 471 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: position that are a little closer to Jackson Hayes than 472 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: people are willing to admit. And so from that standpoint, like, 473 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: it's got to be the right kind of guy. But 474 00:23:52,600 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: it is an interesting concept. One of the things that 475 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: we saw last night is Lebron James himself can scale 476 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: up and be a great low man in the postseason. 477 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: This is why the Lakers are very difficult to discuss 478 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: as a regular season team. They are definitely more dangerous 479 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: as a playoff team than they are as a regular 480 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: season team. Their regular season performances are not necessarily the 481 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: best representation of what they would look like in the postseason. 482 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: When I watch the Calves, I'm watching a Calves team 483 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: that's gonna play more or less the same way in 484 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: the postseason. They're young, they're athletic, They're playing great basketball 485 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: every single night. Their pathway is, we're gonna perfect basketball 486 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: and see if it carries us when we get into 487 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: the postseason. This is a forty year old Lebron James. 488 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: It's completely unrealistic to expect him to be as locked 489 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: in in the regular season every single night as some 490 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: of these other teams are. That said, even within that context, 491 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: I think there is a certain threshold, a mandatory minimum 492 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: of regular season engagement. Like I talked about, that is 493 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: mandatory that Lebron and the Lakers have fallen short of 494 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: this season. 495 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: But they're halfway through. They're halfway through. 496 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: They're capable of restoring that at some point in the 497 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: next forty one games. But again, like that concept of 498 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: Lebron and his kind of wavering effort as a low 499 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: man is a big part of why I think the 500 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: Lakers are a complicated team to discuss as a playoff 501 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: threat relative to their regular season success. A couple other 502 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: Lakers I wanted to shout out on the glass, Dalton, 503 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: Max and Austin getting down and scrapping for loose balls. 504 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: Those guys got eleven defensive rebounds. 505 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: Again, this is part of the shit that is hard 506 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: about basketball. 507 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: It's not easy to constantly get involved in every scrum, 508 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: jump ball, everything like that to try to get a 509 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: loose ball. 510 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 2: It sucks. 511 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: You get scratched, you jam fingers, you get an elbow 512 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: to the ribcage, you get all sorts of shit that hurts, 513 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: and it's exhausting. And again, it's a chore. It's a job. 514 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 1: This is part of the shit that's hard about basketball. 515 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: But it's a non negotiable to get to where you 516 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: want to go. A couple of the guys I want 517 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: to shout out in the big picture, I just thought 518 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves was incredible. I've talked a ton over the 519 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: last couple of years about how I just trust Austin 520 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: Reeves in really important games. He just I don't know 521 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: if it's it's the expression, it's like he's a gamer. 522 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: That's literally what it is for Austin, Like, if it's 523 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: a really big, really important game, I just count on 524 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves to be the best version of himself. I 525 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: thought his dribble penetration was key last night. He was 526 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: just constantly attacking getting downhill a lot of like pace, 527 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: meaning like instead of dribbling the ball off the floor 528 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: slowly and then statically standing at it, staring at a 529 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: defender and then trying to drive past him, which is 530 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: going to be the hardest time to drive past a 531 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: good defender, especially a good defender like a Derek whit 532 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: or Drew Holiday, Right, that's the hardest time to do it. 533 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: But if you're going up pace, meaning like let's say 534 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: you get a defensive rebound, you throw it up to Austin, 535 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: Austin dribbles up the floor and then with like he's 536 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: all right, but he got ahead of steam. He's coming 537 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: at you at full speed and then it's in and 538 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: out crossover, Like while he's coming at you full speed, 539 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: that's so much harder to contain. That's so much harder 540 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: to keep in front, right, And like he was just 541 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: all night like made basket miss basket. It didn't matter 542 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: Austin was coming at the Celtics with a head of 543 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: steam and getting into the paint. I actually thought he 544 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: generated some catch and shoot looks that didn't go down either. 545 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: Like I thought, Austin played a great game, didn't turn 546 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: the ball over, competed defensively, just a really really solid game. 547 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: Gave Vincent defended well all night. There was an early 548 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: fourth quarter stretch where Peyton Pritchard kept trying to bully him, 549 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: and he just stood him up and got stops. He 550 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: had four threes gave Vincent, by the way, in his 551 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: last sixteen games of shooting forty one percent from three 552 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: on four attempts per game. But I want to just 553 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: just before we're done with the Lakers, I just want 554 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: to shout out Lebron James and Anthony Davis. I've been 555 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: really critical of them this year for inconsistent engagement, and 556 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: I've blamed them in a lot of ways for this 557 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: lopsided season that they've had, and I do believe that 558 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: their their lack of engagement has been a problem for 559 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: this Lakers team in terms of their kind of uneven 560 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: performance throughout this season. But I just thought they were 561 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic on both ends of the floor last night. 562 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: I thought they were the two best players last night. 563 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: And again, I know Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum were gassed, 564 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: and again I set them aside for a minute. We're 565 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: talking about the Lakers. I'm just saying in that particular game, 566 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: Lebron James and Anthony Davis were better. They were truly 567 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: physically dominant on both ends of the floor in a 568 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: way that they have often looked when they get to 569 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: the postseason. That's why it's so hard to quit these guys. 570 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: You have a six nine, two hundred and sixty pound 571 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: monster power forward and a six ' eleven, two hundred 572 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: and sixty pound monster center with a seven to six 573 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: wingspan that can play power forward. They both can run 574 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: and jump with the best in the league and their 575 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: elite defensive players when they want to be, and they 576 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: both thrive offensively as the physicality and the intensity go up, 577 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: Which brings me to my final point. 578 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: We talked about ways. 579 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: To restore belief, to grow belief in your big picture goals, 580 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: a signature win, or an influx of talent. If you're 581 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: Rob Pulink and Genie Buss, it's time to shit or 582 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: get off the pot Yovan Boja on our show last week, 583 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: reported that he thinks it's more likely that the Lakers 584 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: do a smaller deal. I literally do not see the 585 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: point in that Lebron's forty years old and this team 586 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: does have championship upside, but only with a legit talent upgrade. 587 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: And you're not getting a legit talent upgrade by making 588 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: a smaller deal on the margins. You need to include 589 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: first round draft compensation. And if you don't think Lebron 590 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: James and Anthony Davis can do it, which I think 591 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: would be fucking insane after what we saw last night, 592 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: then pull the dam of team up, Like, if you 593 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: don't think they can do it, trade the guys. But 594 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: a smaller move accomplishes nothing. Either be about it or 595 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: don't be about it. No more sitting around and watching 596 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: the greatest basketball player of all time and another top 597 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: ten player in this league. Try to fight through what 598 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: you guys know, damn well, is not a championship roster. Frankly, 599 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: if you Rob Polinka and Jeanie Buss are not going 600 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: to compete alongside Lebron James and Anthony Davis, then you 601 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: need to send them to a team that will compete 602 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: with them. And so at that point, I mean, Lebron 603 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: and Ad said a clear message last night. We can 604 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: still go. We can still go with the best guys, 605 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: but they need horses, and you've got two first round picks. 606 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: How are we gonna look back at the Lebron era 607 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: with the Lakers? How are we gonna look back when 608 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: it's five years from now in the Lake are mid rebuild, 609 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: but they have two extra first round picks instead of 610 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: the you know seven or whatever they would or they 611 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: could get by taking on bad salary and trading role 612 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: players for draft compensation. They could easily recoup all this 613 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: stuff down the line. You know what happens when you 614 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: trade for good players. They're good players. So when you 615 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: trade for good players, then suddenly you don't need the 616 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: good players anymore. You get to trade the good players. 617 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: And when you get to trade the good players, you 618 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: get picks back. Put the picks on the table, Do 619 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: everything in your power to give these guys what they 620 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: need to fight or be done with this, be done 621 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: with it. Trade them. But like Lebron and Ad want 622 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: it as frustrating as their commitment has been this year. 623 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: So either meet them at that level or don't. On 624 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: the Celtics front, I don't think there's much to get 625 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: in here. Ironically, as I talked about, this is their 626 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: first twenty point loss of the season and only their 627 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: second indie drew holiday Christops porzingis era. Guess what their 628 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: last twenty point loss was January last year, a thirty 629 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: plus point blowout loss in Milwaukee. Also a fifth game 630 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: and seven nights, also the tail end of a back 631 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: to back, also an overtime game the night before. Most 632 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: of this was just fatigue, guys, not too much to 633 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: get into there. I talked about settling the other day. 634 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: Settling is about conserving energy, and settling, to me is 635 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: just like I have a mismatch, but instead of attacking 636 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: it with physicality, I'm gonna take a jump shot. There 637 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: was a lot of settling last night, but a good 638 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: amount of that is almost to be expected under the circumstances, 639 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: and again something we've seen. 640 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 2: Before, as recently as last year. 641 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: But I do think Boston has been in a little 642 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: bit of a funk with their offensive process. This isn't 643 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,479 Speaker 1: just a last night thing. This is something I've been 644 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: talking about for a while when they've been loo of late, 645 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: it's been their offense that's been the problem almost every time. 646 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: Still a lot of bad process. The entire opening sequence 647 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: of this game was Jalen Brown trying to iso Anthony 648 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: Davis straight up, that's just stupid. He hit a couple 649 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: of threes, so it ended up being like reasonably efficient. 650 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: That's not good process. Still a ton of settling. That 651 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: really is the main issue that I'm seeing if you 652 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: ask me to like pinpoint one specific issue with the 653 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: Celtics right now. They're trying to beat mismatches too often 654 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: with jump shots instead of physical aggression. When you're physically 655 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: aggressive against the mismatch, you get easy twos. When you 656 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: get easy twos, it becomes untenable for the defense. When 657 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: it becomes untenable for the defense, they start to send 658 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: extra bodies. When they start to send extra bodies, that's 659 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: when you get your wide open catch and shoot threes. 660 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: It happens in that order. If you attack mismatches by settling, 661 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,479 Speaker 1: you get tougher twos. If you get tougher twos, you 662 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: don't hit enough of them. If you don't hit enough 663 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: of them, the defense doesn't view it as untenable. If 664 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: the defense doesn't view it as an untenable. They're gonna 665 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: let you keep attacking like that. They let you keep 666 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: attacking like that, you'll continue to hit inefficient twos and 667 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: you won't keep your team in rhythm with catch and 668 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: shoot jump shots in the ball popping ground. It's just 669 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: a it's an order of operations for Boston. And again 670 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm not judging last night because I think it's about fatigue. 671 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: But like I talked about that sixteen catch and shoot 672 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: wide open, sixteen unguarded catch shoo jump shots at the 673 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: Celtics attempt every game that ranks third in the NBA. 674 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: Last night was the fifth consecutive game where they did 675 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: not reach sixteen unguarded catching shoots six games in a 676 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: row or five games five games in a row like that. 677 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: That's a troubling trend in terms of just their overall 678 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: offensive approach. That's the thing that they got a picks 679 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: to get this thing back on track. All right, guys, 680 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: that's all I have for today, or all I have 681 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: for this morning. I should say I'll be back later. 682 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: Today was some more game reactions in a mailbag. 683 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: I will see you guys. 684 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: Then the volume. 685 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: What's up guys? 686 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: As always, I appreciate you for listening to and supporting 687 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: hoops tonight. It would actually be really helpful for us 688 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: if you guys would take a second and leave a 689 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: rating and a review. As always, I appreciate you guys 690 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: supporting us, but if you could take a minute to 691 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: do that, I'd really appreciate it.